1 00:00:01,302 --> 00:00:02,636 Previously on Hannibal 2 00:00:02,670 --> 00:00:04,672 - You make jumps you can't explain, Will. 3 00:00:04,705 --> 00:00:08,076 - The evidence explains. - Then help me find some evidence. 4 00:00:08,109 --> 00:00:11,112 - I wouldn't put him out there! - Should he get too close, I need you to make sure 5 00:00:11,145 --> 00:00:14,682 he's not out there alone. - I don't think the Shrike killed that girl in the field. 6 00:00:14,715 --> 00:00:17,218 This girl's killer thought that she was a pig. 7 00:00:17,251 --> 00:00:21,255 - You think this was a copycat? - I think I can help good Will see his face. 8 00:00:21,289 --> 00:00:23,757 - Hello? - They know. 9 00:00:23,791 --> 00:00:25,793 (gunshots) 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,729 - You said he wouldn't get too close. 11 00:00:28,762 --> 00:00:31,465 - See? 12 00:00:38,372 --> 00:00:44,378 (gunshots) 13 00:01:07,135 --> 00:01:09,837 (Hobbs' daughter gasping) 14 00:01:09,870 --> 00:01:11,505 - (Hobbs): See? 15 00:01:11,539 --> 00:01:14,475 (Hobbs' daughter gasping) See? 16 00:01:21,315 --> 00:01:23,117 - We're here. 17 00:01:28,489 --> 00:01:31,492 (police radio chatter) 18 00:02:40,794 --> 00:02:42,463 - Could be 19 00:02:42,496 --> 00:02:46,234 a permanent installation in your Evil Minds Museum. 20 00:02:46,267 --> 00:02:48,902 - Well, what we learn about Garrett Jacob Hobbs will 21 00:02:48,936 --> 00:02:51,372 help us catch the next one like him. 22 00:02:51,405 --> 00:02:54,642 There's still seven bodies unaccounted for. 23 00:02:54,675 --> 00:02:57,511 - Yeah, well, he was eating them. 24 00:02:57,545 --> 00:02:59,780 - Had to be some parts he wasn't eating. 25 00:02:59,813 --> 00:03:03,284 - Not necessarily. 26 00:03:03,317 --> 00:03:06,954 - All right, what if Hobbs wasn't eating alone? It's a lot of work. 27 00:03:06,987 --> 00:03:09,790 Disappearing these girls, butchering them, and then 28 00:03:09,823 --> 00:03:12,393 not leaving a shred of anything other than what's in this room. 29 00:03:12,426 --> 00:03:15,296 - Someone he hunted with. - Someone who is in a coma, 30 00:03:15,329 --> 00:03:19,333 who also happened to be someone he hunted with. 31 00:03:30,344 --> 00:03:32,313 - Abigail Hobbs is a suspect? 32 00:03:32,346 --> 00:03:34,715 - We've been conducting house-to-house interviews 33 00:03:34,748 --> 00:03:38,352 at the Hobbs residence, and, uh, at this property also. 34 00:03:41,889 --> 00:03:45,359 Hobbs spent a lot of time here. Spent a lot of time 35 00:03:45,393 --> 00:03:46,760 with his daughter here. 36 00:03:46,794 --> 00:03:48,896 She would make the ideal bait, wouldn't she? 37 00:03:48,929 --> 00:03:51,499 - Hobbs killed alone. 38 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:11,552 Ah. Someone else was here. 39 00:05:13,947 --> 00:05:16,917 (applause) 40 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:18,919 - Thank you. 41 00:05:18,952 --> 00:05:20,954 Please stop that. 42 00:05:32,132 --> 00:05:35,569 This is how I caught Garrett Jacob Hobbs. 43 00:05:35,603 --> 00:05:38,972 It's his resignation letter. 44 00:05:39,006 --> 00:05:41,341 Does anybody see the clue? 45 00:05:44,778 --> 00:05:46,113 There isn't one. 46 00:05:46,146 --> 00:05:47,848 He wrote a letter, 47 00:05:47,881 --> 00:05:51,852 he left a phone number, no address. That's it. 48 00:05:51,885 --> 00:05:54,855 Bad bookkeeping and dumb luck. 49 00:06:04,998 --> 00:06:07,901 (gasping) 50 00:06:13,474 --> 00:06:16,544 Garrett Jacob Hobbs is dead. The question now is 51 00:06:16,577 --> 00:06:20,614 how to stop those his story is going to inspire. 52 00:06:20,648 --> 00:06:25,152 (projector click) He's already got one admirer. 53 00:06:25,185 --> 00:06:27,821 A copycat. 54 00:06:44,705 --> 00:06:46,073 Hi. 55 00:06:46,106 --> 00:06:48,141 - How are you, Will? 56 00:06:48,175 --> 00:06:52,045 - Uh, I have no idea. 57 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:54,047 - Um, I didn't want you to be ambushed. 58 00:06:54,081 --> 00:06:55,883 - This is an ambush? 59 00:06:55,916 --> 00:06:57,485 - Ambush is later. 60 00:06:57,518 --> 00:06:59,753 Immediately later-- soon to now. 61 00:06:59,787 --> 00:07:01,889 When Jack arrives, consider yourself ambushed. 62 00:07:01,922 --> 00:07:03,757 - Here's Jack. 63 00:07:03,791 --> 00:07:06,594 - How was class? - Um, they applauded. 64 00:07:06,627 --> 00:07:08,996 It was inappropriate. - Well, the review board would 65 00:07:09,029 --> 00:07:12,500 beg to differ. You're up for a commendation. And they've, uh, 66 00:07:12,533 --> 00:07:14,602 okayed active return to the field. 67 00:07:14,635 --> 00:07:16,136 - The question is, 68 00:07:16,169 --> 00:07:19,507 do you want to go back to the field? 69 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:21,975 - I want him back in the field. 70 00:07:22,009 --> 00:07:24,912 And I've told the board I'm recommending a psych eval. 71 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:27,915 - Are we starting now? 72 00:07:27,948 --> 00:07:30,183 - Oh, the session wouldn't be with me. 73 00:07:30,217 --> 00:07:33,921 - Hannibal Lecter's a better fit. Your relationship's not personal. 74 00:07:33,954 --> 00:07:36,924 But if you are more comfortable with Dr. Bloom... 75 00:07:36,957 --> 00:07:39,927 - I'm not comfortable with anybody inside my head. 76 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,196 - You've never killed anyone before, Will. 77 00:07:43,230 --> 00:07:45,799 It's a deadly force encounter. It's a lot to digest. 78 00:07:45,833 --> 00:07:47,568 - I used to work Homicide. 79 00:07:47,601 --> 00:07:49,903 - The reason you currently USED to work Homicide is because 80 00:07:49,937 --> 00:07:52,706 you didn't have the stomach for pulling the trigger. 81 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:55,943 You just pulled the trigger 10 times. 82 00:07:55,976 --> 00:07:59,046 - Wait, so a psych eval isn't a formality? 83 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:01,915 - No, it's so I can get some sleep at night. I asked you 84 00:08:01,949 --> 00:08:04,217 to get close to the Hobbs thing. I need to know you didn't get 85 00:08:04,251 --> 00:08:07,688 too close. How many nights did you spend in Abigail Hobbs' 86 00:08:07,721 --> 00:08:09,723 hospital room, Will? 87 00:08:12,593 --> 00:08:14,595 - Therapy doesn't work on me. 88 00:08:17,898 --> 00:08:22,235 - Therapy doesn't work on you because you won't let it. - And because I know 89 00:08:22,269 --> 00:08:25,539 all the tricks. - Well, perhaps you need to un-learn some tricks. 90 00:08:25,573 --> 00:08:27,708 - Why not have a conversation with Hannibal? 91 00:08:27,741 --> 00:08:30,744 He was there. He knows what you went through. 92 00:08:33,113 --> 00:08:35,215 - Come on, Will. 93 00:08:35,248 --> 00:08:37,985 I need my beauty sleep! 94 00:08:47,861 --> 00:08:49,697 - What's that? 95 00:08:49,730 --> 00:08:54,267 - Your psychological evaluation. You are totally functional and 96 00:08:54,301 --> 00:08:56,837 more or less sane. Well done. 97 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:59,707 - Did you just rubber stamp me? 98 00:08:59,740 --> 00:09:01,909 - Yes. Jack Crawford may lay his 99 00:09:01,942 --> 00:09:04,044 weary head to rest knowing he didn't break you 100 00:09:04,077 --> 00:09:06,780 and our conversation can proceed unobstructed by paperwork. 101 00:09:09,783 --> 00:09:13,153 - Jack thinks that I need therapy. 102 00:09:13,186 --> 00:09:17,725 - What you need is a way out of dark places when Jack sends you there. 103 00:09:17,758 --> 00:09:19,793 - Last time he sent me into a dark place, 104 00:09:19,827 --> 00:09:21,261 I brought something back. 105 00:09:21,294 --> 00:09:23,831 - A surrogate daughter? 106 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:29,937 You saved Abigail Hobbs' life. You also orphaned her. 107 00:09:29,970 --> 00:09:32,205 That comes with certain emotional obligations, 108 00:09:32,239 --> 00:09:34,942 regardless of empathy disorders. - You were there. 109 00:09:34,975 --> 00:09:37,210 You saved her life too. Do you feel obligated? 110 00:09:39,212 --> 00:09:41,281 - Yes. 111 00:09:41,314 --> 00:09:44,885 I feel a staggering amount of obligation. 112 00:09:44,918 --> 00:09:46,920 I feel responsibility. 113 00:09:48,922 --> 00:09:51,792 I've fantasized about scenarios where my actions may have 114 00:09:51,825 --> 00:09:53,961 allowed a different fate for Abigail Hobbs. 115 00:09:58,732 --> 00:10:01,969 - Jack thinks Abigail Hobbs helped her dad kill those girls. 116 00:10:04,838 --> 00:10:06,807 - How does that make you feel? 117 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,976 - How does it make you feel? 118 00:10:09,009 --> 00:10:12,079 - I find it vulgar. - Me too. 119 00:10:12,112 --> 00:10:13,981 - And entirely possible. 120 00:10:14,014 --> 00:10:16,817 - It's not what happened. - Jack will ask her 121 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:19,186 when she wakes up, or he'll have one of us ask her. 122 00:10:19,219 --> 00:10:21,989 - Is this therapy, or a support group? 123 00:10:22,022 --> 00:10:25,959 - It's whatever you need it to be. 124 00:10:27,961 --> 00:10:29,797 And, Will, 125 00:10:29,830 --> 00:10:32,933 the mirrors in your mind can reflect the best of yourself, 126 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:35,035 not the worst of someone else. 127 00:10:58,158 --> 00:11:00,761 What is that? 128 00:11:02,763 --> 00:11:04,331 - I bet it's marijuana. 129 00:11:04,364 --> 00:11:07,868 - Mushrooms. Look, they got tubes to water 'em or something. 130 00:11:07,901 --> 00:11:09,436 - No, it's a marijuana plant. 131 00:11:13,774 --> 00:11:15,909 - That's not marijuana. 132 00:11:39,366 --> 00:11:42,770 (gunshots) 133 00:11:51,511 --> 00:11:53,380 - I'm pretty sure 134 00:11:53,413 --> 00:11:56,383 firearm accuracy isn't a prerequisite for teaching. 135 00:11:56,416 --> 00:11:58,451 - Well, I've been in the field before. 136 00:11:58,485 --> 00:12:03,290 - Now you're back in the saddle. Ish. - Ish indeed. 137 00:12:03,323 --> 00:12:06,426 Took me 10 shots to drop Hobbs. 138 00:12:06,459 --> 00:12:09,963 - Zeller wanted to give you the bullets he pulled out of Hobbs in an acrylic case, but 139 00:12:09,997 --> 00:12:12,165 I told him you wouldn't think it was funny. 140 00:12:12,199 --> 00:12:15,135 - Probably not. - I suggested one of those 141 00:12:15,168 --> 00:12:17,404 clackin' swingin' ball things. 142 00:12:20,007 --> 00:12:22,009 - That would've been funny. 143 00:12:31,551 --> 00:12:35,088 - You're a Weaver. I took you for an isosceles guy. 144 00:12:35,122 --> 00:12:38,091 - I have a rotator cuff issue so I have to use the Weaver stance. 145 00:12:38,125 --> 00:12:40,360 - You are tight. 146 00:12:40,393 --> 00:12:42,329 - I got stabbed when I was a cop. 147 00:12:42,362 --> 00:12:44,431 - Yeah, I got stabbed in the third grade 148 00:12:44,464 --> 00:12:47,868 with a number two pencil. Thought I was gonna get lead poisoning. 149 00:12:47,901 --> 00:12:50,470 - Uh, no lead in pencils; it's graphite. 150 00:12:50,503 --> 00:12:53,540 - See if that helps with the recoil. 151 00:13:03,984 --> 00:13:05,552 - That was better. 152 00:13:05,585 --> 00:13:08,922 You come all the way down here to teach me how to shoot? 153 00:13:08,956 --> 00:13:13,260 - No. Jack sent me down here to find out what you know about gardening. 154 00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:18,165 (crow cawing) 155 00:13:35,515 --> 00:13:39,119 - So, Lecter gave you the all-clear. 156 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:41,488 Therapy might work on you after all. 157 00:13:41,521 --> 00:13:45,358 - Therapy is an acquired taste which I have yet to acquire. 158 00:13:45,392 --> 00:13:49,096 But, uh, it served your purpose. I'm back in the field. 159 00:13:49,129 --> 00:13:50,864 - Local police found 160 00:13:50,898 --> 00:13:53,500 tire tracks on a hidden service road 161 00:13:53,533 --> 00:13:56,136 and some small animal traps in the surrounding area. 162 00:13:56,169 --> 00:13:58,538 - He wanted to keep his crop undisturbed. 163 00:13:58,571 --> 00:14:00,908 - The only thing missing is the scarecrow. 164 00:14:04,311 --> 00:14:08,281 - OK, we've got nine bodies, various stages of decay, and as you can see, 165 00:14:08,315 --> 00:14:10,550 all very well fertilized. 166 00:14:10,583 --> 00:14:14,154 - He buried them in a high-nutrient compost. 167 00:14:14,187 --> 00:14:16,556 He was enthusiastically encouraging decomposition. 168 00:14:16,589 --> 00:14:18,892 - They were buried alive with the intention of keeping them 169 00:14:18,926 --> 00:14:21,294 that way--I mean, for a little while. 170 00:14:21,328 --> 00:14:25,132 - (Jimmy): Long enough for the fungus to eat away any distinguishing characteristics. 171 00:14:25,165 --> 00:14:27,134 - Line and rebar were used 172 00:14:27,167 --> 00:14:31,004 to administer intravenous fluids after they were buried. 173 00:14:31,038 --> 00:14:33,306 He was feeding them something. 174 00:14:33,340 --> 00:14:37,444 - No restraints? 175 00:14:37,477 --> 00:14:40,447 - Just dirt. - The other end of the air-supply system 176 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,149 comes up over there. 177 00:14:42,182 --> 00:14:44,351 It isn't a very considerate clean air solution, 178 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:48,055 which clearly wasn't a priority, 'cause he isn't lazy. 179 00:14:48,088 --> 00:14:51,224 - No, he's not. 180 00:14:56,997 --> 00:14:58,631 - You find any shitakes? 181 00:14:58,665 --> 00:15:01,201 - (Jimmy): No. 182 00:15:01,234 --> 00:15:03,236 - Welcome back. 183 00:15:11,478 --> 00:15:14,681 - Tell Sam to give me a call, will you? Thank you. 184 00:15:19,987 --> 00:15:22,355 - Excuse me. I'm one of the parents 185 00:15:22,389 --> 00:15:24,724 of the explorers who found the bodies. 186 00:15:24,757 --> 00:15:27,327 I wanted to thank you for being so good with all the boys. 187 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,597 - Those boys were very brave. - They are good boys. - Yeah. 188 00:15:30,630 --> 00:15:34,367 - You're a local police detective? - Yes ma'am. 189 00:15:34,401 --> 00:15:36,970 - Would it be an imposition to ask a few things? 190 00:15:37,004 --> 00:15:39,973 The boys are gonna have questions and I just want to be as honest with them as-- 191 00:15:40,007 --> 00:15:42,675 - Of course. - Can you, uh, 192 00:15:42,709 --> 00:15:45,512 tell me what that man is doing over there by himself? 193 00:15:45,545 --> 00:15:47,614 - He's some kind of special consultant. 194 00:15:47,647 --> 00:15:50,417 Works for the FBI. - Huh. 195 00:16:06,133 --> 00:16:08,135 (sound muted) 196 00:16:10,703 --> 00:16:14,441 (soft ambient pulse) 197 00:16:56,616 --> 00:16:59,086 (Sound returns.) 198 00:17:03,090 --> 00:17:06,159 - I do not bind his arms or legs 199 00:17:06,193 --> 00:17:09,562 as I bury him in a shallow grave. 200 00:17:09,596 --> 00:17:13,833 (ventilator pumping) 201 00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:16,203 He's alive. 202 00:17:16,236 --> 00:17:19,339 But he will never be conscious again. 203 00:17:27,514 --> 00:17:29,582 He won't know that he's dying. 204 00:17:31,584 --> 00:17:33,353 I don't need him to. 205 00:17:36,256 --> 00:17:38,258 This is my design. 206 00:17:48,535 --> 00:17:51,104 - I think your family's leaving. - We drove separately. 207 00:17:51,138 --> 00:17:54,374 (muffled gasp) (Will gasping) 208 00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:56,743 - (Will): I need an EMT! 209 00:17:56,776 --> 00:18:01,414 (person gasping) 210 00:18:01,448 --> 00:18:04,517 - (Katz): EMT! We need an EMT! - (Zeller): Don't touch him! 211 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:14,661 - This may have been premature. 212 00:18:16,663 --> 00:18:20,667 - What did you see? Out in the field. 213 00:18:22,835 --> 00:18:24,504 - Hobbs. 214 00:18:24,537 --> 00:18:25,905 - An association? 215 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,540 - A hallucination. 216 00:18:27,574 --> 00:18:30,443 I saw him lying there in someone else's grave. 217 00:18:30,477 --> 00:18:33,513 - Did you tell Jack what you saw? 218 00:18:33,546 --> 00:18:35,682 - No. 219 00:18:35,715 --> 00:18:38,285 - It's stress. 220 00:18:38,318 --> 00:18:39,852 Not worth reporting. 221 00:18:39,886 --> 00:18:43,256 You displaced the victim of another killer's crime 222 00:18:43,290 --> 00:18:46,393 with what could arguably be considered your victim. 223 00:18:46,426 --> 00:18:48,695 - I don't consider Hobbs my victim. 224 00:18:48,728 --> 00:18:52,432 - What do you consider him? 225 00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:54,467 - Dead. 226 00:18:57,704 --> 00:19:00,807 - Is it harder imagining the thrill somebody else feels killing, 227 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,443 now that you've done it yourself? 228 00:19:17,524 --> 00:19:18,891 The arms. 229 00:19:18,925 --> 00:19:23,296 Why did he leave them exposed? To hold their hands? 230 00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:25,565 To feel the life leaving their bodies? 231 00:19:25,598 --> 00:19:29,636 - No, that's too esoteric for someone who took the time to bury his victims 232 00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:32,305 in a straight line. He's more practical. 233 00:19:32,339 --> 00:19:34,641 - He was cultivating them. - He was keeping them alive. 234 00:19:34,674 --> 00:19:36,643 He was feeding them intravenously. 235 00:19:36,676 --> 00:19:39,679 - But your farmer let his crops die. Save for the one that didn't. 236 00:19:39,712 --> 00:19:42,315 - Well, and the one that didn't died on the way to the hospital, 237 00:19:42,349 --> 00:19:44,717 though they weren't crops; they were the fertilizer. The bodies were covered in fungus. 238 00:19:44,751 --> 00:19:48,588 - The structure of a fungus mirrors that of the human brain-- 239 00:19:48,621 --> 00:19:50,990 an intricate web of connections. 240 00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:55,528 - So maybe he admires their ability to connect 241 00:19:55,562 --> 00:19:57,530 the way human minds can't. 242 00:19:57,564 --> 00:20:00,367 - Yours can. (Will laughs.) 243 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,403 - Yep. Um... yeah, not physically. 244 00:20:05,405 --> 00:20:07,574 - Is that what your farmer is looking for? 245 00:20:07,607 --> 00:20:09,776 Some sort of connection? 246 00:20:12,044 --> 00:20:14,247 - (Will): Goodbye. 247 00:20:23,523 --> 00:20:25,492 - Miss Kimball? - Yes. 248 00:20:25,525 --> 00:20:27,260 - Good evening. Please come in. 249 00:20:40,407 --> 00:20:41,173 - I've, 250 00:20:41,207 --> 00:20:43,910 uh, never seen a psychiatrist before. 251 00:20:43,943 --> 00:20:47,580 And I am unfortunately thorough, 252 00:20:47,614 --> 00:20:51,818 so you're one of three doctors I'm interviewing. 253 00:20:51,851 --> 00:20:54,321 It's more or less a bake-off. 254 00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:56,456 - I'm very supportive of bake-offs. 255 00:20:56,489 --> 00:20:58,558 It's important you find someone you're comfortable with. 256 00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:01,728 - I can imagine you as my therapist, 257 00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:03,763 which is good. 258 00:21:03,796 --> 00:21:07,934 If I can't visualize opening up emotionally, I know it would be a problem. 259 00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:09,936 - May I ask why now? 260 00:21:09,969 --> 00:21:12,439 - Do you mind if I ask you 261 00:21:12,472 --> 00:21:15,608 a few questions first? - Of course not. 262 00:21:15,642 --> 00:21:18,878 - I love that you've written so much on social exclusion. 263 00:21:18,911 --> 00:21:21,581 Since that's why I'm here, I was wondering-- 264 00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:23,616 - Are you Freddie Lounds? 265 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:31,324 This is unethical, even for a tabloid journalist. 266 00:21:31,358 --> 00:21:33,326 - I am, uh, 267 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,495 I am so embarrassed. 268 00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:39,766 - I'm afraid I must ask for your bag. 269 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:41,868 - What? 270 00:21:41,901 --> 00:21:43,470 - Your bag. 271 00:21:43,503 --> 00:21:47,006 Please hand it over. 272 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:49,376 I'd rather not take it from you. 273 00:21:52,011 --> 00:21:54,614 Thank you. 274 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:59,719 - I was recording our conversation. 275 00:21:59,752 --> 00:22:02,121 - Our conversation? Yours and mine? 276 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:04,023 - Yes. 277 00:22:04,056 --> 00:22:06,058 - No other conversation? 278 00:22:06,092 --> 00:22:07,694 - No. 279 00:22:09,696 --> 00:22:11,898 - You were very persistent about your appointment time. 280 00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:14,634 How did you know when Will Graham would be here? 281 00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:17,003 - I may have also recorded your session with Will Graham. 282 00:22:17,036 --> 00:22:19,005 - You didn't answer the question. How did you know? 283 00:22:19,038 --> 00:22:22,409 - I can't answer that question. 284 00:22:24,777 --> 00:22:26,946 - Come. Sit by me. 285 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:36,723 Delete the conversations you recorded. 286 00:22:36,756 --> 00:22:39,892 Doctor-patient confidentiality works both ways. 287 00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:43,896 Delete it, please. 288 00:22:51,638 --> 00:22:55,141 You've been terribly rude, Miss Lounds. 289 00:22:58,177 --> 00:23:00,980 What's to be done about that? 290 00:23:03,483 --> 00:23:06,619 *** (J.S. Bach: Cello Suite No.4: Prelude) 291 00:23:06,653 --> 00:23:09,656 Loin, served with a Cumberland sauce of red fruits. 292 00:23:09,689 --> 00:23:11,991 - Um, loin. What kind? 293 00:23:12,024 --> 00:23:15,194 - Pork. - Wonderful. 294 00:23:15,227 --> 00:23:19,432 I don't get many opportunities to, uh, eat home-cooked meals. 295 00:23:19,466 --> 00:23:23,670 My wife and I both work, and, uh, as hard as I tried not to, 296 00:23:23,703 --> 00:23:26,473 I did wind up marrying my mother. 297 00:23:26,506 --> 00:23:29,576 - Your mother didn't cook? 298 00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:31,711 - She did, she did. 299 00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:33,145 I only wish she didn't. 300 00:23:33,179 --> 00:23:35,214 There was this meal 301 00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:37,717 she used to prepare. She liked to call it "oriental noodles". 302 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:42,021 Spaghetti, soy sauce, bouillon cubes, and spam. 303 00:23:42,054 --> 00:23:44,724 I was raised thin as a youngster. 304 00:23:44,757 --> 00:23:46,859 - Well, next time, bring your wife. 305 00:23:46,893 --> 00:23:49,829 I'd love to have you both for dinner. 306 00:23:49,862 --> 00:23:51,598 - Thank you. 307 00:23:51,631 --> 00:23:53,132 Mmm. 308 00:23:53,165 --> 00:23:56,769 Lovely. So, why do you think Will Graham 309 00:23:56,803 --> 00:23:58,738 came back to see you? - I'm sure 310 00:23:58,771 --> 00:24:01,641 he recognizes the necessity of his own support structure 311 00:24:01,674 --> 00:24:03,643 if he is to go on supporting you in the field. 312 00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:05,645 - Well, I believe that a guy like Will Graham knows 313 00:24:05,678 --> 00:24:07,647 exactly what's going on inside of his head, 314 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,916 which is why he doesn't want anyone else up there. 315 00:24:09,949 --> 00:24:12,785 - Are you not accustomed to broken ponies in your stable? 316 00:24:12,819 --> 00:24:15,522 - You think Will Graham's a broken pony? 317 00:24:15,555 --> 00:24:18,491 - I think you think Will is a broken pony. 318 00:24:18,525 --> 00:24:20,159 Have you ever lost a pony, Jack? 319 00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:22,762 - If you're asking me whether or not I've ever 320 00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:25,898 lost someone in the field, the answer is yes. Why? 321 00:24:25,932 --> 00:24:28,735 - I want to understand why you're so delicate with Will. 322 00:24:28,768 --> 00:24:32,171 Because you don't trust him, or because you're afraid of losing another pony? 323 00:24:32,204 --> 00:24:36,042 - I've already had my psych eval. 324 00:24:36,075 --> 00:24:38,878 - Not by me. 325 00:24:38,911 --> 00:24:42,114 You've already told me about your mother. Why stop there? 326 00:24:45,952 --> 00:24:49,589 - (laughing): Oh, great. All right. 327 00:24:53,793 --> 00:24:55,528 Mm. 328 00:25:04,270 --> 00:25:06,639 - What were they soaked in? - A highly concentrated mixture 329 00:25:06,673 --> 00:25:09,041 of hardwoods, shredded newspaper, and pig poop-- 330 00:25:09,075 --> 00:25:11,177 perfect for growing mushrooms and other fungi. 331 00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:13,179 - It was not the mushrooms, though. 332 00:25:13,212 --> 00:25:15,948 They all died of kidney failure. - Dextrose in all the catheters. 333 00:25:15,982 --> 00:25:18,551 He probably used some kind of dialysis or peristaltic 334 00:25:18,585 --> 00:25:20,920 to pump fluids after their circulatory systems broke down. 335 00:25:20,953 --> 00:25:22,922 - Force-feeding them sugar water? 336 00:25:22,955 --> 00:25:25,925 - (Jimmy): You know who loves sugar water? Mushrooms. They crave it. 337 00:25:25,958 --> 00:25:29,328 - Recovering alcoholics. They crave sugar. Uh, don't take that personally, buddy. 338 00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:31,998 - Oh, I'm not recovering. - Feed sugar to the fungus 339 00:25:32,031 --> 00:25:37,737 in your body, the fungus creates alcohol, so it's like friends helping friends, really. 340 00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:41,974 - It's not just alcoholics who have compromised endocrine systems. 341 00:25:42,008 --> 00:25:44,677 They all died of kidney failure? 342 00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:46,679 - Mm-hmm. 343 00:25:46,713 --> 00:25:48,715 - Death by diabetic ketoacidosis. 344 00:25:48,748 --> 00:25:51,951 - Did you know they were diabetics? - We don't know 345 00:25:51,984 --> 00:25:54,621 they were diabetics. - No, they're all diabetics. 346 00:25:54,654 --> 00:25:56,956 He induces a coma and puts them in the ground. 347 00:25:56,989 --> 00:25:59,592 - How is he inducing diabetic comas? 348 00:25:59,626 --> 00:26:01,594 - Changes their medication. So he's a doctor or a pharmacist 349 00:26:01,628 --> 00:26:04,096 or he works somewhere in medical services. 350 00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:06,098 - He buries them, feeds them sugar to keep them alive 351 00:26:06,132 --> 00:26:08,601 long enough for the circulatory systems to soak it up. 352 00:26:08,635 --> 00:26:12,038 - So he can feed the mushrooms! - We dug up his mushroom garden. 353 00:26:12,071 --> 00:26:14,073 - Yeah, he's gonna want to grow a new one. 354 00:26:24,651 --> 00:26:27,186 - I'm picking up a prescription for Gretchen Speck. 355 00:26:27,219 --> 00:26:29,188 - Gretchen Speck... (typing) 356 00:26:29,221 --> 00:26:31,157 Horowitz. - Oh, it's just Speck. 357 00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:34,761 We're divorced. I lost the hyphen, kept the ring. 358 00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:37,029 - Insulin. - Yes. 359 00:26:39,031 --> 00:26:42,902 - Oh. Oh, it's the wrong one. Just... 360 00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:45,337 - Uh-oh. - No, no, it's OK. 361 00:26:45,371 --> 00:26:47,206 Just gonna be one second. 362 00:26:52,078 --> 00:26:54,246 There. There you go. 363 00:26:55,414 --> 00:26:58,017 Oh can you sign here please? 364 00:27:02,689 --> 00:27:06,893 And that's your correct address? - Yeah. 365 00:27:06,926 --> 00:27:09,228 Thank you. - Thank you. 366 00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:18,905 Mrs. James. 367 00:27:18,938 --> 00:27:21,040 If you could sign here, please? 368 00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:28,781 Thank you. 369 00:27:33,252 --> 00:27:36,889 - She's the chain's 10th diabetic customer to disappear 370 00:27:36,923 --> 00:27:38,958 after filling a prescription for insulin, 371 00:27:38,991 --> 00:27:40,960 second to disappear from this exact location. 372 00:27:40,993 --> 00:27:43,830 - And the other eight? - All over the county. One pharmacist 373 00:27:43,863 --> 00:27:46,265 all over the county as well. - Floater, huh? 374 00:27:46,298 --> 00:27:49,268 - Floater's floating right here. Still logged in at his work station. 375 00:27:53,740 --> 00:27:57,243 Everyone please stop what you are doing; 376 00:27:57,276 --> 00:28:00,813 put your hands in the air! 377 00:28:00,847 --> 00:28:03,082 Special Agent Jack Crawford. Which one of you is 378 00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:04,483 Eldon Stammets? 379 00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:06,485 - Eldon was just here. 380 00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:09,388 Just now. - Is his car still 381 00:28:09,421 --> 00:28:12,258 in the parking lot? 382 00:28:12,291 --> 00:28:14,293 - His car! 383 00:28:16,362 --> 00:28:18,197 - Give me your baton. 384 00:28:27,874 --> 00:28:29,842 Ugh! 385 00:28:29,876 --> 00:28:32,879 (ventilator pumping) 386 00:28:37,183 --> 00:28:39,151 She's alive! 387 00:28:39,185 --> 00:28:41,888 (Jack coughing) 388 00:28:41,921 --> 00:28:43,422 - EMTs! Now! 389 00:28:50,462 --> 00:28:53,165 - All right. We know his name, 390 00:28:53,199 --> 00:28:56,135 we have his address, we have his car. 391 00:28:56,168 --> 00:28:58,237 - Jack. We just checked the browser history 392 00:28:58,270 --> 00:29:00,439 at Stammets' work station. - Am I gonna wanna hear this? 393 00:29:00,472 --> 00:29:04,443 - No. And yes, but mostly no. 394 00:29:08,214 --> 00:29:11,050 - Freddie Lounds. - (Jack): TattleCrime.com. 395 00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:14,453 - "The FBI isn't just hunting psychopaths, they're headhunting them 396 00:29:14,486 --> 00:29:17,223 "too, offering competitive pay and benefits in the hopes 397 00:29:17,256 --> 00:29:22,228 of using one demented mind--" - Keep going. 398 00:29:22,261 --> 00:29:25,031 - (Katz): It's about Will. - (Jack): Go on. 399 00:29:25,064 --> 00:29:27,299 - "One demented mind to catch--" 400 00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:30,102 She goes into a lot of detail. - Son of a bitch. 401 00:29:48,254 --> 00:29:50,857 - You are naughty, Miss Lounds. 402 00:29:54,426 --> 00:29:56,528 (knocking on door) 403 00:29:56,562 --> 00:29:59,498 - Who is it? 404 00:29:59,531 --> 00:30:01,600 (knocking on door) 405 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:04,871 Who is it? 406 00:30:07,506 --> 00:30:10,142 Ah! 407 00:30:17,884 --> 00:30:20,552 - (Zeller): All clear. 408 00:30:23,122 --> 00:30:25,892 - I appreciate the pageantry, Agent Crawford, 409 00:30:25,925 --> 00:30:28,227 but you can't arrest me for writing an article. 410 00:30:28,260 --> 00:30:30,362 - You entered a federal crime scene without permission. 411 00:30:30,396 --> 00:30:33,399 - Escorted by a detective. - Under false pretence! 412 00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:35,401 - It is as good as permission. 413 00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:37,970 - You lied to a police officer. 414 00:30:38,004 --> 00:30:41,173 - You can't arrest me for lying. 415 00:30:45,277 --> 00:30:48,047 - You got all that information from a local detective? 416 00:30:52,051 --> 00:30:54,153 - Lots of talk about your man Graham. 417 00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:57,189 Not to mention the rivalry of who gets the collar. 418 00:30:57,223 --> 00:31:00,326 A local police detective looking for a pissing contest 419 00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:02,328 with the FBI might have some insight. 420 00:31:02,361 --> 00:31:04,563 - And evidently did. - Sure did. 421 00:31:04,596 --> 00:31:07,566 - You know, the unfortunate timing of your article allowed 422 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:09,601 a murderer to escape. 423 00:31:13,305 --> 00:31:15,674 You were in Minnesota. 424 00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:19,045 You were in the Shrike's nest. You know how I know? 425 00:31:19,078 --> 00:31:21,347 'Cause you left one of these hairs behind. 426 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:23,349 You contaminated the crime scene. 427 00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:25,617 Just like everywhere you go, you contaminate crime scenes. 428 00:31:25,651 --> 00:31:28,487 That's obstructing justice. I can indict you 429 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,323 for obstructing justice. 430 00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:34,927 - I'd appreciate it if you didn't. 431 00:31:34,961 --> 00:31:37,063 - You don't write another word about Will Graham 432 00:31:37,096 --> 00:31:39,065 and I won't have to. 433 00:31:49,108 --> 00:31:51,410 - (Zeller): You used me. 434 00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:57,416 (monitor beeping) (ventilator pumping) 435 00:32:07,293 --> 00:32:11,530 (footsteps) 436 00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:03,415 - "He and the Grandmother discussed better times. The old lady said that 437 00:33:03,449 --> 00:33:06,285 "in her opinion, Europe was entirely 438 00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:08,420 to blame for the way things were now. She said--" 439 00:33:08,454 --> 00:33:10,056 - What are you reading? 440 00:33:15,327 --> 00:33:18,030 - Flannery O'Connor. 441 00:33:18,064 --> 00:33:20,366 When I was Abigail's age, 442 00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:22,434 I was obsessed. I even tried to raise peacocks 443 00:33:22,468 --> 00:33:25,271 because she raised peacocks. 444 00:33:25,304 --> 00:33:28,207 But... they were really stupid birds. 445 00:33:30,209 --> 00:33:32,244 - You could be reading to a killer. 446 00:33:32,278 --> 00:33:37,049 - Innocent until guilty and all that. 447 00:33:37,083 --> 00:33:39,218 I'm about to broach the subject 448 00:33:39,251 --> 00:33:44,156 of that "Takes One to Know One" article. 449 00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:46,692 - Oh, that. 450 00:33:46,725 --> 00:33:48,694 Did Jack send you? 451 00:33:48,727 --> 00:33:52,098 - No, I sent me. 452 00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:58,704 - I don't think we've ever been alone in a room together, have we? 453 00:33:58,737 --> 00:34:01,707 - I haven't noticed. Have we? 454 00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:05,611 Not that we're necessarily alone now. 455 00:34:05,644 --> 00:34:08,280 - Yeah, right. Back to... 456 00:34:08,314 --> 00:34:12,351 "Jack Crawford's crime gimp". - It certainly creates an image. 457 00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:14,586 I don't need to talk about it 458 00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:17,223 if you don't. - No, no, we can talk about 459 00:34:17,256 --> 00:34:20,659 or not talk about whatever you want. 460 00:34:24,263 --> 00:34:26,232 Actually, I was... 461 00:34:26,265 --> 00:34:29,235 I was just enjoying listening to you read. 462 00:34:32,271 --> 00:34:35,541 - Abigail Hobbs is a success for you. 463 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:43,882 - She doesn't look like a success. 464 00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:47,253 - Don't feel sorry for yourself 465 00:34:47,286 --> 00:34:50,522 because you saved this girl's life. - I don't. 466 00:34:50,556 --> 00:34:54,393 I don't feel sorry for myself at all. 467 00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:57,529 I feel, um... 468 00:34:57,563 --> 00:34:59,531 I-I... 469 00:34:59,565 --> 00:35:01,300 I feel, um... 470 00:35:04,836 --> 00:35:06,705 ...good. 471 00:35:46,712 --> 00:35:49,681 - Don't know where you got half that information. It wasn't from me. 472 00:35:49,715 --> 00:35:52,184 - I may have made some inferences. 473 00:35:52,218 --> 00:35:54,753 - They think I told you all of it. 474 00:35:54,786 --> 00:35:56,755 - They saw you talking to me. 475 00:35:56,788 --> 00:36:00,226 - They think it's my fault Stammets escaped. 476 00:36:00,259 --> 00:36:02,628 - I'm sorry I got you fired. - I wasn't fired. 477 00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:05,464 I was suspended. - They're gonna fire you. 478 00:36:05,497 --> 00:36:07,599 Jack Crawford will make sure of that. 479 00:36:07,633 --> 00:36:09,435 - You... 480 00:36:09,468 --> 00:36:12,738 you stir the hornet's nest, and I'm the one who gets stung? 481 00:36:12,771 --> 00:36:16,308 - I can help you get work outside the force, if you want me to. 482 00:36:16,342 --> 00:36:19,278 I know people in private security. 483 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,715 - Not the first cop you got fired. 484 00:36:23,749 --> 00:36:25,984 - Guarantee you it pays better. Right now, 485 00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:28,520 future you is thanking me. 486 00:36:30,889 --> 00:36:33,492 - I read your article. 487 00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:36,528 Tell me about Will Graham. 488 00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:49,508 - (Lounds): Hey, Jack. 489 00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:53,412 - Miss Lounds? 490 00:36:53,445 --> 00:36:57,983 Go ahead and stand down, officer. Miss Lounds, are you all right? 491 00:36:58,016 --> 00:36:59,285 - Where's Will Graham? 492 00:36:59,318 --> 00:37:01,520 - We have an eyewitness to the murder. We don't need Will Graham. 493 00:37:01,553 --> 00:37:04,256 - No, that's not why I'm asking. 494 00:37:04,356 --> 00:37:05,791 - Someone find me Will Graham! 495 00:37:07,426 --> 00:37:09,961 This is about Will? - He was talking about people 496 00:37:09,995 --> 00:37:12,798 having the same properties of a fungus. - Stammets? 497 00:37:12,831 --> 00:37:16,402 - Thoughts leaping from brain to brain. They mutate, they evolve. 498 00:37:16,435 --> 00:37:21,273 - Well, what does he want with Will Graham? - Someone who understands him. 499 00:37:21,307 --> 00:37:24,276 Graham was right. Stammets is looking for connections. 500 00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:25,844 - What did you tell him? 501 00:37:27,846 --> 00:37:29,548 I need to know 502 00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:32,918 what you told Eldon Stammets about Will Graham. 503 00:37:32,951 --> 00:37:34,920 - I told him about the Hobbs girl. 504 00:37:34,953 --> 00:37:37,289 - What did you tell him? 505 00:37:37,323 --> 00:37:39,691 - Everything. 506 00:37:39,725 --> 00:37:42,861 He wants to help Will Graham connect with Abigail Hobbs. 507 00:37:42,894 --> 00:37:45,397 He's gonna bury her. 508 00:37:45,431 --> 00:37:46,965 (ding!) 509 00:37:46,998 --> 00:37:49,000 - Sorry. 510 00:38:09,488 --> 00:38:11,457 (ding!) 511 00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:14,926 (phone ringing) 512 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,928 - Hello? - [It's Jack.] 513 00:38:16,962 --> 00:38:18,930 [Are you at the hospital?] - Yes, I am. 514 00:38:18,964 --> 00:38:21,967 - [Stammets knows about Abigail Hobbs.] 515 00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:44,556 - Where is she? Abigail Hobbs, the girl in 408. Where is she? 516 00:38:44,590 --> 00:38:46,658 - They took her for tests. - Who took her? 517 00:38:46,692 --> 00:38:49,361 Who took her?! 518 00:39:02,974 --> 00:39:05,043 Hey! 519 00:39:07,546 --> 00:39:09,948 (grunting in pain) 520 00:39:22,794 --> 00:39:25,397 What were you gonna do to her? 521 00:39:25,431 --> 00:39:27,933 - We all evolved from mycelium. 522 00:39:27,966 --> 00:39:29,935 I'm simply reintroducing her to the concept. 523 00:39:29,968 --> 00:39:31,937 - By burying her alive? 524 00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:34,440 - The journalist said you understood me. 525 00:39:34,473 --> 00:39:36,107 - I don't. 526 00:39:36,141 --> 00:39:38,877 - Well, you would have. 527 00:39:38,910 --> 00:39:41,480 You would have. 528 00:39:41,513 --> 00:39:43,615 If you walk through a field of mycelium, 529 00:39:43,649 --> 00:39:45,817 they know you are there. They know you are there. 530 00:39:45,851 --> 00:39:50,489 The spores reach for you as you walk by. 531 00:39:52,858 --> 00:39:55,794 I know who you're reaching for. I know. 532 00:39:55,827 --> 00:39:58,464 Abigail Hobbs. 533 00:39:58,497 --> 00:40:00,766 And you should have let me plant her. 534 00:40:00,799 --> 00:40:03,502 You would have found her in a field, 535 00:40:03,535 --> 00:40:06,171 where she was finally able to reach back! 536 00:40:10,476 --> 00:40:13,111 - (Lecter): When you shot Eldon Stammets, 537 00:40:13,144 --> 00:40:15,113 who was it that you saw? 538 00:40:15,146 --> 00:40:19,117 - I didn't see Hobbs. 539 00:40:19,150 --> 00:40:22,454 - Then it's not Hobbs' ghost that's haunting you, is it? 540 00:40:22,488 --> 00:40:25,123 It's the inevitability 541 00:40:25,156 --> 00:40:29,127 of there being a man so bad that killing him felt good. 542 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,463 - Killing Hobbs felt just. 543 00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:35,734 - Which is why you're here-- 544 00:40:35,767 --> 00:40:38,003 to prove that sprig of zest you feel is 545 00:40:38,036 --> 00:40:40,472 from saving Abigail, not from killing her dad. 546 00:40:40,506 --> 00:40:44,876 - I didn't feel a sprig of zest when I shot Eldon Stammets. 547 00:40:44,910 --> 00:40:47,178 - You didn't kill Eldon Stammets. 548 00:40:51,783 --> 00:40:54,886 - I thought about it. 549 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,889 I'm still not entirely sure that wasn't my intention 550 00:40:57,923 --> 00:41:00,025 pulling the trigger. 551 00:41:00,058 --> 00:41:02,160 - If your intention was to kill him, 552 00:41:02,193 --> 00:41:05,631 it's because you understand why he did the things he did. 553 00:41:05,664 --> 00:41:09,735 It's beautiful in its own way-- 554 00:41:09,768 --> 00:41:13,505 giving voice to the unmentionable. 555 00:41:13,539 --> 00:41:17,142 - I should've stuck to fixing boat motors in Louisiana. 556 00:41:17,175 --> 00:41:22,147 - A boat engine is a machine, a predictable problem, easy to solve. 557 00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:25,283 You fail, there's a paddle. Where was your paddle with Hobbs? 558 00:41:25,316 --> 00:41:29,655 - You're supposed to be my paddle. - I am. 559 00:41:29,688 --> 00:41:34,192 It wasn't the act of killing Hobbs that got you down, was it? 560 00:41:36,194 --> 00:41:40,699 Did you really feel so bad because killing him felt so good? 561 00:41:42,701 --> 00:41:44,803 - I liked killing Hobbs. 562 00:41:49,074 --> 00:41:51,910 - Killing must feel good to God too-- 563 00:41:51,943 --> 00:41:54,312 he does it all the time. 564 00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:56,982 And are we not created in his image? 565 00:41:57,015 --> 00:42:00,652 - That depends who you ask. 566 00:42:00,686 --> 00:42:03,054 - God's terrific. 567 00:42:03,088 --> 00:42:05,924 He dropped a church roof on 34 of his worshippers 568 00:42:05,957 --> 00:42:09,094 last Wednesday night in Texas, while they sang a hymn. 569 00:42:09,127 --> 00:42:11,963 - And did God feel good about that? 570 00:42:13,699 --> 00:42:15,266 - He felt powerful. 571 00:42:22,874 --> 00:42:25,877 Closed Captioning by SETTE inc.