1 00:00:04,805 --> 00:00:07,408 (police radio chatter) 2 00:00:28,229 --> 00:00:30,464 (sound muted) 3 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:36,270 (soft ambient pulse) 4 00:01:17,145 --> 00:01:19,113 (Sound returns.) 5 00:01:19,147 --> 00:01:21,149 (siren in the distance) 6 00:01:24,152 --> 00:01:26,120 (sound muted) 7 00:01:26,154 --> 00:01:28,156 (soft ambient pulse) 8 00:01:35,396 --> 00:01:37,365 (Sound returns.) 9 00:01:37,398 --> 00:01:39,800 (insects chirping) 10 00:01:45,939 --> 00:01:48,376 (house alarm) 11 00:01:52,546 --> 00:01:54,515 - I shoot Mr. Marlow twice, 12 00:01:54,548 --> 00:01:57,751 severing jugulars and carotids with near-surgical precision. 13 00:01:57,785 --> 00:02:01,289 He will die watching me take what is his away from him. 14 00:02:01,322 --> 00:02:03,191 This is my design. 15 00:02:03,224 --> 00:02:06,860 (house alarm) (woman whimpering frantically) 16 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:23,244 I shoot Mrs. Marlow expertly through the neck. 17 00:02:23,277 --> 00:02:26,347 This is not a fatal wound. The bullet misses every artery. 18 00:02:26,380 --> 00:02:29,883 She is paralyzed before it leaves her body. 19 00:02:29,917 --> 00:02:34,322 Which doesn't mean she can't feel pain. 20 00:02:34,355 --> 00:02:36,324 It just means 21 00:02:36,357 --> 00:02:39,660 she can't do anything about it. 22 00:02:41,929 --> 00:02:43,931 This is my design. 23 00:02:46,734 --> 00:02:49,270 (house alarm) 24 00:02:49,303 --> 00:02:51,272 (Alarm stops.) 25 00:02:51,305 --> 00:02:54,942 (phone ringing on other end) (keypad beeps) 26 00:02:54,975 --> 00:02:58,279 - [This is DDX Security. Who am I speaking with?] 27 00:03:01,014 --> 00:03:04,285 - I need the incident report for the home security company. 28 00:03:10,891 --> 00:03:13,361 This was recorded as a false alarm. 29 00:03:17,331 --> 00:03:20,768 There was a false alarm last... week. 30 00:03:23,537 --> 00:03:25,506 He tapped their phone. 31 00:03:25,539 --> 00:03:28,742 - Yeah. It's been tapped. 32 00:03:28,776 --> 00:03:31,745 - He recorded Mrs. Marlow's conversation with the security company. 33 00:03:31,779 --> 00:03:35,949 - This is DDX Security. Who am I speaking with? - Theresa Marlow. 34 00:03:35,983 --> 00:03:39,253 - Can you please confirm your password for security purposes? 35 00:03:39,287 --> 00:03:42,356 - Tea kettle. 36 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:45,626 - Thank you, Mrs. Marlow. We detected a front-door alarm. 37 00:03:45,659 --> 00:03:47,861 - Yeah, sorry about that. 38 00:03:47,895 --> 00:03:52,266 - Is there anyone in the house with you at this time, Mrs. Marlow? 39 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:55,636 - I'm just here with my husband. - Do you require 40 00:03:55,669 --> 00:03:59,239 any further assistance? - No. Thank you so much for calling. 41 00:04:02,009 --> 00:04:05,012 - And this is when it gets truly horrifying 42 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:06,647 for Mrs. Marlow. 43 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:15,289 Everyone has thought about killing someone, 44 00:04:15,323 --> 00:04:16,957 one way or another, 45 00:04:16,990 --> 00:04:21,929 be it your own hand or the hand of God. 46 00:04:21,962 --> 00:04:26,367 Now think about killing Mrs. Marlow. 47 00:04:28,569 --> 00:04:30,904 Why did she deserve this? 48 00:04:30,938 --> 00:04:32,906 Tell me your design. 49 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:35,843 Tell me who you are. 50 00:04:42,416 --> 00:04:44,352 - Mr. Graham. 51 00:04:44,385 --> 00:04:46,620 Special Agent 52 00:04:46,654 --> 00:04:49,022 Jack Crawford. I head the Behavioral Science Unit. 53 00:04:49,056 --> 00:04:51,024 - We've met. - Yes. 54 00:04:51,058 --> 00:04:53,894 We had a disagreement when we opened up the museum. 55 00:04:53,927 --> 00:04:56,697 - I disagreed with what you named it. 56 00:04:56,730 --> 00:04:58,699 - The, uh, Evil Minds Research Museum. 57 00:04:58,732 --> 00:05:00,601 - It's a little hammy, Jack. 58 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:03,671 - I see you've hitched 59 00:05:03,704 --> 00:05:05,473 your horse to a teaching post, 60 00:05:05,506 --> 00:05:08,576 and I also understand it's difficult for you to be social. 61 00:05:08,609 --> 00:05:10,578 - Well, I'm just talking at them. 62 00:05:10,611 --> 00:05:14,081 I'm not listening to them. It's not social. - I see. 63 00:05:14,114 --> 00:05:17,785 May I? 64 00:05:20,053 --> 00:05:21,589 Where do you fall 65 00:05:21,622 --> 00:05:23,757 on the spectrum? 66 00:05:23,791 --> 00:05:26,627 - My horse is hitched to a post 67 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:29,830 that is closer to Asperger's and autistics 68 00:05:29,863 --> 00:05:32,099 than narcissists and sociopaths. 69 00:05:32,132 --> 00:05:36,136 - But you can empathize with narcissists 70 00:05:36,169 --> 00:05:38,439 and sociopaths. - I can empathize with anybody. 71 00:05:38,472 --> 00:05:40,941 It's less to do with a personality disorder 72 00:05:40,974 --> 00:05:43,076 than an active imagination. - Um... 73 00:05:43,110 --> 00:05:46,380 can I... 74 00:05:46,414 --> 00:05:48,549 borrow your imagination? 75 00:05:48,582 --> 00:05:50,551 Eight girls 76 00:05:50,584 --> 00:05:52,853 abducted from eight different Minnesota campuses, 77 00:05:52,886 --> 00:05:55,122 all in the last eight months. - I thought there were seven. 78 00:05:55,155 --> 00:05:58,392 - There were. - When did you tag the eighth? 79 00:05:58,426 --> 00:06:02,430 - About three minutes before I walked into your lecture hall. 80 00:06:02,463 --> 00:06:05,633 - You're calling them abductions because you don't have any bodies? 81 00:06:05,666 --> 00:06:08,736 - No bodies, no parts of bodies, nothing that comes out of bodies. Nothing. 82 00:06:08,769 --> 00:06:11,739 - Then those girls weren't taken from where you think they were taken. 83 00:06:11,772 --> 00:06:13,741 - Then where were they taken from? 84 00:06:13,774 --> 00:06:15,743 - I don't know. Someplace else. 85 00:06:15,776 --> 00:06:18,011 - All of them abducted on a Friday 86 00:06:18,045 --> 00:06:20,414 so they wouldn't have to be reported missing until Monday. 87 00:06:20,448 --> 00:06:24,652 Now, however he's covering his tracks, he needs a weekend to do it. 88 00:06:27,555 --> 00:06:28,989 - Number eight? 89 00:06:29,022 --> 00:06:31,825 - Elise Nichols. St. Cloud State on the Mississippi. 90 00:06:31,859 --> 00:06:34,027 Disappeared on Friday. Was supposed to house sit 91 00:06:34,061 --> 00:06:36,797 for her parents over the weekend, feed the cat. 92 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:38,466 She never made it home. 93 00:06:38,499 --> 00:06:40,434 - Yeah, one through seven are dead, don't you think? 94 00:06:40,468 --> 00:06:42,870 He's not keeping them around. He got himself 95 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:45,939 a new one. - So we focus on Elise Nichols. 96 00:06:48,809 --> 00:06:51,779 - They're all very, um... Mall of America. 97 00:06:53,781 --> 00:06:55,949 That's a lot of wind-chafed skin. 98 00:06:55,983 --> 00:06:57,951 - Same hair colour, same eye colour. 99 00:06:57,985 --> 00:07:01,655 Roughly the same age. Same height, same weight. 100 00:07:01,689 --> 00:07:03,457 So what is it about all of these girls? 101 00:07:03,491 --> 00:07:07,661 - It's not about all of these girls. It's just about one of them. 102 00:07:07,695 --> 00:07:11,665 He's like Willy Wonka. Every girl he takes is a candy bar, 103 00:07:11,699 --> 00:07:16,970 and hidden in amongst all of those candy bars is the one true intended victim, 104 00:07:17,004 --> 00:07:19,072 which, if we follow through on our metaphor, 105 00:07:19,106 --> 00:07:22,610 is your golden ticket. - So, is he 106 00:07:22,643 --> 00:07:24,211 warming up for his golden ticket, 107 00:07:24,244 --> 00:07:26,680 or just reliving whatever it is he did to her? 108 00:07:26,714 --> 00:07:29,617 - The golden ticket wouldn't be the first taken, and she wouldn't be the last. 109 00:07:29,650 --> 00:07:34,522 He would, um, hide how special she was. I mean, I would. Wouldn't you? 110 00:07:34,555 --> 00:07:36,123 - I want you to get closer to this. 111 00:07:36,156 --> 00:07:39,192 - No. You have Heimlich at Harvard and Bloom at Georgetown. 112 00:07:39,226 --> 00:07:42,630 They do the same thing I do. - That's not exactly true, is it? 113 00:07:42,663 --> 00:07:44,732 You have a very specific way of thinking about things. 114 00:07:44,765 --> 00:07:48,969 - Has there been a lot of discussion about the, uh, specific way 115 00:07:49,002 --> 00:07:51,872 I think? - You make jumps you can't explain, Will. 116 00:07:51,905 --> 00:07:54,575 - No, no. The evidence explains. 117 00:07:54,608 --> 00:07:56,810 - Then help me find some evidence. 118 00:08:00,714 --> 00:08:03,483 - That may require me to be sociable. 119 00:08:15,062 --> 00:08:17,898 - (echoing voice): She could've gone off by herself. 120 00:08:17,931 --> 00:08:22,570 She... she was a very interior young woman. 121 00:08:24,572 --> 00:08:26,774 She didn't like living in her dorm. 122 00:08:26,807 --> 00:08:30,043 I could see how the pressure of school might have 123 00:08:30,077 --> 00:08:31,679 gotten to her. 124 00:08:31,712 --> 00:08:34,715 She likes trains. 125 00:08:34,748 --> 00:08:37,585 Maybe she just got on a train and... 126 00:08:37,618 --> 00:08:39,553 - She looks like the other girls. 127 00:08:39,587 --> 00:08:42,690 - Yes, she fits the profile. 128 00:08:44,725 --> 00:08:47,194 - Could Elise still be alive? 129 00:08:51,765 --> 00:08:53,901 - We simply have no way of knowing. 130 00:08:53,934 --> 00:08:57,838 - How's the cat? - (Mrs. Nichols): What? 131 00:09:00,173 --> 00:09:01,675 - How's your cat? 132 00:09:01,709 --> 00:09:03,744 E-Elise was supposed to feed it. 133 00:09:03,777 --> 00:09:06,046 Was the cat weird when you came home? 134 00:09:06,079 --> 00:09:08,949 It must've been hungry. It didn't eat all weekend. 135 00:09:08,982 --> 00:09:11,852 - I... I didn't notice. 136 00:09:16,924 --> 00:09:18,826 - Could you give us a moment, please? 137 00:09:28,101 --> 00:09:31,304 - (whispering): He took her from here. 138 00:09:33,674 --> 00:09:36,209 She got on a train, she came home, 139 00:09:36,243 --> 00:09:38,211 she fed the cat. 140 00:09:38,245 --> 00:09:40,247 He took her. 141 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:46,987 - The Nichols' house is a crime scene. 142 00:09:47,020 --> 00:09:48,789 I need ERT immediately. 143 00:09:48,822 --> 00:09:52,092 I want Zeller, Katz, and Jimmy Price. 144 00:09:52,125 --> 00:09:54,094 Yes, and a photographer. 145 00:09:54,127 --> 00:09:57,297 - Why is it now a crime scene? 146 00:09:57,330 --> 00:09:59,700 - Can I see your daughter's room? 147 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:14,648 - I'll get that. 148 00:10:14,682 --> 00:10:17,317 Mr. Nichols, please put your hands in your pockets 149 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:19,820 and avoid touching anything. 150 00:10:19,853 --> 00:10:21,822 - But we've been in and out of here 151 00:10:21,855 --> 00:10:23,824 all day. 152 00:10:23,857 --> 00:10:27,160 - You can hold the cat, if it's easier. 153 00:10:36,003 --> 00:10:39,106 - Elise. - I need you to leave 154 00:10:39,139 --> 00:10:40,874 the room. 155 00:10:53,453 --> 00:10:55,789 - You take your time. 156 00:10:55,823 --> 00:10:57,791 When you're ready to talk, you talk. 157 00:10:57,825 --> 00:11:01,194 If you don't feel like it, you don't talk. 158 00:11:01,228 --> 00:11:03,196 We'll be downstairs. 159 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:05,799 You let me know when you're ready for us to come in. 160 00:11:19,747 --> 00:11:22,883 (siren) 161 00:11:31,424 --> 00:11:39,399 (soft ambient pulse) 162 00:12:12,199 --> 00:12:15,468 - You're Will Graham. - You're not supposed to be in here. 163 00:12:15,502 --> 00:12:20,774 - You wrote the standard monograph on time of death by insect activity. 164 00:12:20,808 --> 00:12:23,376 I found antler velvet in two of the wounds. 165 00:12:23,410 --> 00:12:25,478 You, uh, not real FBI? 166 00:12:25,512 --> 00:12:28,281 - I'm a special investigator. 167 00:12:28,315 --> 00:12:31,018 - Never been an FBI agent? 168 00:12:31,051 --> 00:12:33,053 - Um... strict 169 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:36,156 screening procedures. - Detects instability... 170 00:12:36,189 --> 00:12:38,892 You unstable? 171 00:12:38,926 --> 00:12:41,294 - Now, you know you're not supposed to be in here. 172 00:12:41,328 --> 00:12:44,564 - I found antler velvet in two of the wounds, like she was gored. 173 00:12:44,597 --> 00:12:46,566 I was looking for velvet in the other wounds 174 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:49,336 but I was interrupted. - Hold on, excuse me. Look, 175 00:12:49,369 --> 00:12:52,272 deer and elk pin their prey, OK? They put all their weight into their antlers, 176 00:12:52,305 --> 00:12:55,075 try and suffocate a victim. That's how they would kill, like, a fox or a coyote. 177 00:12:55,108 --> 00:12:57,044 - All right, Elise Nichols was strangled, suffocated, 178 00:12:57,077 --> 00:12:59,813 her ribs are broken. - Antler velvet is rich 179 00:12:59,847 --> 00:13:03,150 in nutrients. It actually promotes healing. He may have put it in there on purpose. 180 00:13:03,183 --> 00:13:05,385 - You think he was trying to heal her? 181 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:09,322 - He wanted to undo as much as he could-- 182 00:13:09,356 --> 00:13:11,591 given that he'd already killed her. 183 00:13:11,624 --> 00:13:13,994 - He put her back where he found her. 184 00:13:14,027 --> 00:13:17,197 - Whatever he did to the others, he couldn't do it to her. 185 00:13:17,230 --> 00:13:20,167 - (Jack): Is this his golden ticket? 186 00:13:22,903 --> 00:13:25,338 - No. 187 00:13:25,372 --> 00:13:27,374 This is an apology. 188 00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:34,214 Does anyone have any aspirin? 189 00:13:48,361 --> 00:13:50,397 Hello. 190 00:13:52,532 --> 00:13:55,235 Hey. 191 00:13:55,268 --> 00:14:00,207 Hey. Hey. Hey. Come on. Come on. 192 00:14:14,321 --> 00:14:16,957 Hey. 193 00:14:16,990 --> 00:14:19,559 Hey, come here. 194 00:14:19,592 --> 00:14:21,194 Hey. 195 00:14:38,345 --> 00:14:42,082 Winston, this is everybody. 196 00:14:42,115 --> 00:14:44,317 Everybody, this is Winston. 197 00:14:44,351 --> 00:14:46,553 (barking) Tss! Tss! 198 00:14:49,056 --> 00:14:51,024 That's right. 199 00:15:04,304 --> 00:15:09,209 (heartbeat) 200 00:15:11,211 --> 00:15:15,215 (heartbeat) 201 00:15:23,056 --> 00:15:26,193 (heartbeat) 202 00:16:16,176 --> 00:16:19,146 - What are you doing in here? 203 00:16:19,179 --> 00:16:21,148 - I enjoy the smell of urinal cake. 204 00:16:21,181 --> 00:16:22,682 - Me too. We need to talk. 205 00:16:22,715 --> 00:16:25,452 USE THE LADIES' ROOM! 206 00:16:30,757 --> 00:16:33,126 You respect my judgment, Will? 207 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,395 - Mm-hmm. Yes. 208 00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:40,067 - Good, because we will stand a better chance of catching this guy with you 209 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:42,702 in the saddle. - Yeah, I'm in the saddle. 210 00:16:42,735 --> 00:16:47,107 I'm just, um, confused which direction I'm pointing. 211 00:16:47,140 --> 00:16:49,609 I don't know 212 00:16:49,642 --> 00:16:52,112 this kind of psychopath. I've never read about him. 213 00:16:52,145 --> 00:16:55,282 I don't even know if he's a psychopath. He's not insensitive. He's not shallow. 214 00:16:55,315 --> 00:17:00,420 - You know something about him; otherwise, you wouldn't have said, "This is an apology". 215 00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:03,590 What is he apologizing for? - He couldn't honour her. He feels bad. 216 00:17:03,623 --> 00:17:05,492 - Well, feeling bad defeats the purpose of being 217 00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:07,394 a psychopath, doesn't it? - Yes! It does. 218 00:17:07,427 --> 00:17:10,029 - Then what kind of crazy is he?! 219 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:15,735 - He couldn't show her he loved her, so he put her corpse back 220 00:17:15,768 --> 00:17:17,737 where he killed it. Whatever crazy that is. 221 00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:20,173 - You think he loves these girls? 222 00:17:20,207 --> 00:17:22,675 - He loves one of them. A-And, yes, I think 223 00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:25,745 by association he has some form of love for the others. 224 00:17:25,778 --> 00:17:29,616 - There was no semen, there was no saliva. Elise Nichols died a virgin. 225 00:17:29,649 --> 00:17:31,651 She stayed that way. - That's not how 226 00:17:31,684 --> 00:17:34,121 he's loving them. He wouldn't disrespect them that way! 227 00:17:34,154 --> 00:17:36,123 He doesn't want these girls to suffer. 228 00:17:36,156 --> 00:17:39,426 He kills them quickly and... 229 00:17:39,459 --> 00:17:43,496 to his thinking, with mercy. 230 00:17:46,233 --> 00:17:48,801 - Sensitive psychopath. 231 00:17:48,835 --> 00:17:51,571 Risked getting caught 232 00:17:51,604 --> 00:17:54,541 so he could tuck Elise Nichols back into bed. 233 00:17:54,574 --> 00:17:58,245 - He has to take the next girl soon... 234 00:17:58,278 --> 00:18:02,149 'cause he knows he's gonna get caught. 235 00:18:02,182 --> 00:18:04,751 One way or the other. 236 00:18:21,368 --> 00:18:22,769 - I got you. 237 00:18:44,824 --> 00:18:47,327 - (Jack): Graham likes you. 238 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:50,330 Doesn't think you'll run any mind games on him. 239 00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:54,201 - I don't. I'm as honest with him as I'd be with a patient. 240 00:18:54,234 --> 00:18:56,203 - You've been observing him while you've been 241 00:18:56,236 --> 00:18:58,471 guest-lecturing here at the academy, yes? 242 00:18:58,505 --> 00:19:00,840 - I've never been in a room alone with Will. 243 00:19:00,873 --> 00:19:04,444 - Why not? - Because I want to be his friend, and I am. 244 00:19:04,477 --> 00:19:08,281 - Ah, it seems a shame not to take advantage-- academically speaking. 245 00:19:08,315 --> 00:19:10,583 - You already asked me to do a study on him, 246 00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:13,186 Jack. I said no. And anything 247 00:19:13,220 --> 00:19:16,956 scholarly on Will Graham would have to be published posthumously. 248 00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:20,227 - So, you've never been alone with him because you have a professional 249 00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:23,430 curiosity. (Jack chuckles.) 250 00:19:23,463 --> 00:19:25,698 - Normally I wouldn't even broach this, 251 00:19:25,732 --> 00:19:30,437 but what do you think one of Will's strongest drives is? 252 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:32,639 - Fear. 253 00:19:32,672 --> 00:19:35,208 - Mm-hmm. - Will Graham deals 254 00:19:35,242 --> 00:19:38,578 with huge amounts of fear. It comes with his imagination. 255 00:19:38,611 --> 00:19:40,613 - It's the price of imagination. 256 00:19:40,647 --> 00:19:45,318 - Alana, I wouldn't put him out there if I didn't think I could cover him. 257 00:19:45,352 --> 00:19:47,587 All right, if I didn't think I could cover him 80%. 258 00:19:47,620 --> 00:19:48,788 - I wouldn't put him out there. 259 00:19:48,821 --> 00:19:51,458 - He's out there. I need him out there. 260 00:19:51,491 --> 00:19:54,827 Should he get too close, I need you to make sure he's not out there alone. 261 00:19:57,564 --> 00:19:59,766 Promise me something, Jack. 262 00:20:02,569 --> 00:20:04,537 Don't let him get too close. 263 00:20:04,571 --> 00:20:06,939 - He won't... get too close. 264 00:20:12,379 --> 00:20:14,847 - (sighing): OK. 265 00:20:14,881 --> 00:20:17,817 Tried her skin for prints-- of course nothing. 266 00:20:17,850 --> 00:20:20,953 We did get a hand spread off her neck. - Report say anything 267 00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:23,956 about nails? - Fingernails were smudged when we took the scrapings. 268 00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:26,659 The scrapings were from her own palms 269 00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:28,661 when she scratched them. She never scratched him. 270 00:20:28,695 --> 00:20:30,863 - Piece of metal is all we got. - We should be looking 271 00:20:30,897 --> 00:20:32,899 at plumbers, steamfitters, tool workers... 272 00:20:59,626 --> 00:21:02,795 - Other injuries were probably but not conclusively post-mortem. 273 00:21:02,829 --> 00:21:06,633 So... not gored. - She has lots of piercings that look like they were caused 274 00:21:06,666 --> 00:21:10,603 by deer antlers. I didn't say the deer was responsible for putting them there. 275 00:21:10,637 --> 00:21:12,339 - She was mounted on them. 276 00:21:12,372 --> 00:21:14,941 Like hooks. 277 00:21:14,974 --> 00:21:19,346 She may have been bled. - Her liver was removed. 278 00:21:19,379 --> 00:21:21,648 See that? He took it out, and then... 279 00:21:21,681 --> 00:21:24,050 yep, he put it back in. - Huh. 280 00:21:24,083 --> 00:21:26,786 Why would he cut it out if he's just gonna sew it 281 00:21:26,819 --> 00:21:28,388 back in again? 282 00:21:28,421 --> 00:21:30,757 - There was something wrong with the meat. 283 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:34,327 - She has liver cancer. 284 00:21:37,730 --> 00:21:40,333 - He's, um... he's eating them. 285 00:21:42,869 --> 00:21:47,874 ** (JS Bach: Goldberg Variations: "Aria") 286 00:22:24,577 --> 00:22:27,780 (crying) - Please. 287 00:22:34,086 --> 00:22:36,088 Thank you. 288 00:22:40,192 --> 00:22:43,496 I hate being this neurotic. - If you weren't neurotic, 289 00:22:43,530 --> 00:22:47,066 Franklyn, you would be something much worse. 290 00:22:54,206 --> 00:22:57,910 Our brain is designed to experience anxiety in short bursts, 291 00:22:57,944 --> 00:23:01,648 not the prolonged duress yours has seemed to enjoy. 292 00:23:01,681 --> 00:23:05,184 That's why you feel as though a lion were on the verge of devouring you. 293 00:23:05,217 --> 00:23:08,087 (crying) 294 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:10,457 Franklyn. - Yes. 295 00:23:10,490 --> 00:23:13,560 - You have to convince yourself the lion is not in the room. 296 00:23:13,593 --> 00:23:15,562 When it is, 297 00:23:15,595 --> 00:23:18,030 I assure you, 298 00:23:18,064 --> 00:23:19,866 you will know. 299 00:23:24,771 --> 00:23:27,574 - Dr. Lecter. I'm, uh, Special Ag-- 300 00:23:27,607 --> 00:23:30,577 - I hate to be discourteous, but this is a private exit for my patients. 301 00:23:30,610 --> 00:23:35,214 - Oh, Dr. Lecter. Sorry. Um, 302 00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:37,116 I'm, uh, Special Agent 303 00:23:37,149 --> 00:23:39,952 Jack Crawford, FBI. May I come in? 304 00:23:39,986 --> 00:23:41,954 - You may wait in the waiting room. 305 00:23:41,988 --> 00:23:43,956 Franklyn, I'll see you next week. 306 00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:46,158 - Yes. - Unless, of course, 307 00:23:46,192 --> 00:23:47,727 this is about him. 308 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,029 - No, this is all about you. 309 00:23:58,605 --> 00:24:00,840 - Please, come in. 310 00:24:04,243 --> 00:24:05,812 So, 311 00:24:05,845 --> 00:24:08,114 may I ask how this is all about me? 312 00:24:08,147 --> 00:24:10,783 - You can ask, but I may have to ask you 313 00:24:10,817 --> 00:24:13,553 a few questions first. 314 00:24:13,586 --> 00:24:15,655 You expecting another patient? 315 00:24:15,688 --> 00:24:17,189 - We're all alone. 316 00:24:17,223 --> 00:24:19,892 - Oh, good. 317 00:24:19,926 --> 00:24:22,261 No secretary? - Was predispositioned 318 00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:25,765 to romantic whims. Followed her heart to the United Kingdom. 319 00:24:25,798 --> 00:24:28,568 (Jack chuckles.) Sad to see her go. 320 00:24:31,904 --> 00:24:33,640 - Wow. 321 00:24:37,677 --> 00:24:40,146 Are these yours, Doctor? - Among the first. 322 00:24:40,179 --> 00:24:42,849 My boarding school in Paris when I was a boy. 323 00:24:42,882 --> 00:24:45,051 - The amount of detail is incredible. 324 00:24:45,084 --> 00:24:46,886 - I learned very early 325 00:24:46,919 --> 00:24:49,756 a scalpel cuts better points than a pencil sharpener. 326 00:24:49,789 --> 00:24:52,525 - Well, now I understand why your drawings earned you 327 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:54,627 an internship at Johns Hopkins. 328 00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:58,798 - I'm beginning to suspect you're investigating me, 329 00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:02,635 Agent Crawford. - (chuckling): No, no. 330 00:25:02,669 --> 00:25:05,738 No, you were referred to me by Alana Bloom 331 00:25:05,772 --> 00:25:09,075 in the psychology department-- Georgetown. 332 00:25:09,108 --> 00:25:12,078 - Most psychology departments are filled with personality 333 00:25:12,111 --> 00:25:15,548 deficients. Dr. Bloom would be the exception. 334 00:25:15,582 --> 00:25:17,784 - Yes, she would. Yes, she would. 335 00:25:17,817 --> 00:25:21,754 Well, she told me that you mentored her during her residency at Johns Hopkins. 336 00:25:21,788 --> 00:25:23,923 - I learned as much from her as she did from me. 337 00:25:23,956 --> 00:25:26,025 - Yes, but she also showed me, uh, your paper, 338 00:25:26,058 --> 00:25:27,960 "Evolutionary..." uh, 339 00:25:27,994 --> 00:25:30,229 "Evolutionary Origins of Social Exclusion"? 340 00:25:30,262 --> 00:25:31,831 - Yes. 341 00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:34,000 - Very interesting. Very interesting. 342 00:25:34,033 --> 00:25:35,635 Even for a layman. 343 00:25:35,668 --> 00:25:37,937 - A layman? - Yeah. 344 00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:41,107 - So many learned fellows going about in the halls of Behavioral Science 345 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:45,177 at the FBI, and you consider yourself a layman. - I do when I'm in your company, 346 00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:47,980 doctor. Um, 347 00:25:48,014 --> 00:25:51,718 I need you to help me with a psychological profile. 348 00:25:54,821 --> 00:25:57,189 - (Lecter): Tell me, then, how many confessions? 349 00:25:57,223 --> 00:25:59,759 - Twelve dozen, the last time I checked. None of them had 350 00:25:59,792 --> 00:26:02,128 any details-- until this morning. 351 00:26:02,161 --> 00:26:04,631 And then they all had details. 352 00:26:04,664 --> 00:26:07,967 Some genius in Duluth PD took a photograph of Elise Nichols' body 353 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,302 with his cell phone, shared it with his friends, 354 00:26:10,336 --> 00:26:11,804 and then Freddy Lounds 355 00:26:11,838 --> 00:26:14,173 posted it on Tattlecrime.com. 356 00:26:14,206 --> 00:26:15,742 - Tasteless. 357 00:26:15,775 --> 00:26:19,211 - (Lecter): Do you have trouble with taste? 358 00:26:19,245 --> 00:26:21,814 - My thoughts are often not tasty. 359 00:26:21,848 --> 00:26:24,350 - Nor mine. 360 00:26:24,383 --> 00:26:26,886 No effective barriers. - I build forts. 361 00:26:26,919 --> 00:26:30,156 - Associations come quickly. - So do forts. 362 00:26:34,293 --> 00:26:36,629 - Not fond of eye contact, are you? 363 00:26:36,663 --> 00:26:38,631 - Eyes are distracting-- 364 00:26:38,665 --> 00:26:41,100 you see too much, you don't see enough. 365 00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:44,671 And-And it's hard to focus when you're thinking, um, 366 00:26:44,704 --> 00:26:46,906 "Oh, those whites are really white", 367 00:26:46,939 --> 00:26:50,076 or, "He must have hepatitis", or, "Oh, is that a burst 368 00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:53,746 vein?" So, yeah, 369 00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:56,015 I try to avoid eyes whenever possible. 370 00:26:56,048 --> 00:26:58,350 Jack? - Yes? 371 00:26:58,384 --> 00:27:00,419 - I imagine what you see and learn touches 372 00:27:00,452 --> 00:27:02,421 everything else in your mind. 373 00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:04,423 Your values and decency are present 374 00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:06,859 yet shocked at your associations, 375 00:27:06,893 --> 00:27:10,029 appalled at your dreams. 376 00:27:10,062 --> 00:27:13,299 No forts in the bone arena of your skull for things you love. 377 00:27:13,332 --> 00:27:16,869 - Whose profile are you working on? 378 00:27:16,903 --> 00:27:19,238 Whose profile is he working on? 379 00:27:19,271 --> 00:27:22,341 - I'm sorry, Will. Observing is what we do. 380 00:27:22,374 --> 00:27:24,744 I can't shut mine off any more than you can shut yours off. 381 00:27:24,777 --> 00:27:27,714 - Please, don't psychoanalyze me. 382 00:27:27,747 --> 00:27:30,249 You won't like me when I'm psychoanalyzed. 383 00:27:30,282 --> 00:27:32,184 - Will. - Now, if you'll excuse me, 384 00:27:32,218 --> 00:27:35,755 I have to go give a lecture on psychoanalyzing. 385 00:27:38,758 --> 00:27:40,727 - Maybe we shouldn't poke him like that, 386 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,964 Doctor. Perhaps a less, uh, direct approach. 387 00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:48,434 - What he has is pure empathy. 388 00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:50,770 He can assume your point of view, 389 00:27:50,803 --> 00:27:52,905 or mine, and maybe some other points of view that scare him. 390 00:27:52,939 --> 00:27:57,443 It's an uncomfortable gift, Jack. 391 00:27:57,476 --> 00:28:01,180 Perception's a tool that's pointed on both ends. 392 00:28:01,213 --> 00:28:06,719 This cannibal you have him getting to know... 393 00:28:06,753 --> 00:28:09,355 I think I can help good Will see his face. 394 00:28:14,193 --> 00:28:16,763 (cawing) 395 00:28:30,777 --> 00:28:34,213 - (Jack): Stag head was reported stolen last night, about a mile from here. 396 00:28:34,246 --> 00:28:35,848 - Just the head? 397 00:28:35,882 --> 00:28:37,950 - Minneapolis Homicide's already made a statement. 398 00:28:37,984 --> 00:28:40,152 They're calling him the Minnesota Shrike. 399 00:28:40,186 --> 00:28:41,754 - Like the bird? 400 00:28:41,788 --> 00:28:45,892 - Shrike's a perching bird. Impales mice 401 00:28:45,925 --> 00:28:48,494 and lizards on thorny branches and barbed wire. 402 00:28:48,527 --> 00:28:51,230 Rips their organs right out of their bodies, 403 00:28:51,263 --> 00:28:54,233 puts them in a little birdie pantry, and eats them later. 404 00:28:54,266 --> 00:28:56,368 - I can't tell whether it's sloppy 405 00:28:56,402 --> 00:28:58,871 or shrewd. - He wanted her found 406 00:28:58,905 --> 00:29:00,940 this way. 407 00:29:00,973 --> 00:29:02,274 It's... 408 00:29:02,308 --> 00:29:05,311 it's petulant. 409 00:29:05,344 --> 00:29:08,214 I almost feel like he's mocking her. 410 00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:11,117 Or... he's mocking us. 411 00:29:13,385 --> 00:29:15,888 - Where did all his love go? 412 00:29:15,922 --> 00:29:20,492 - Whoever tucked Elise Nichols into bed didn't paint this picture. 413 00:29:20,526 --> 00:29:24,463 - He took her lungs. 414 00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:26,999 I'm pretty sure she was alive when he cut 'em out. 415 00:29:42,448 --> 00:29:45,351 - Our cannibal loves women. 416 00:29:45,384 --> 00:29:48,354 He doesn't want to destroy them; he wants to consume them, 417 00:29:48,387 --> 00:29:51,223 to keep some part of them inside. 418 00:29:51,257 --> 00:29:53,325 This girl's killer thought that she was a pig. 419 00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:56,963 - You think this was a copycat? - The cannibal 420 00:29:56,996 --> 00:29:58,965 who killed Elise Nichols had a place to do it 421 00:29:58,998 --> 00:30:02,601 and no interest in... in field kabuki. So, 422 00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:05,371 he has a house, or two, or a-a cabin-- 423 00:30:05,404 --> 00:30:07,940 something with an antler room. 424 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,850 He has a daughter. 425 00:30:17,884 --> 00:30:21,287 The same age as the other girls. Same-same hair colour, 426 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,322 same eye colour, same height, same weight. 427 00:30:26,192 --> 00:30:29,528 She's an only child. She's leaving home. 428 00:30:31,530 --> 00:30:34,533 He can't stand the thought of losing her. 429 00:30:36,535 --> 00:30:38,570 She's his golden ticket. 430 00:30:38,604 --> 00:30:41,573 - What about the copycat? 431 00:30:41,607 --> 00:30:43,642 - You know, an intelligent psychopath, 432 00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:46,512 particularly a sadist, is very hard to catch. 433 00:30:46,545 --> 00:30:48,514 There's no traceable motive, there'll be no patterns. 434 00:30:48,547 --> 00:30:50,549 He may never kill this way again. 435 00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:52,618 Have Dr. Lecter draw up a psychological profile. 436 00:30:52,651 --> 00:30:55,454 You seemed very impressed with his opinion. 437 00:31:37,629 --> 00:31:39,631 (knocking on door) 438 00:31:41,633 --> 00:31:43,602 (blankets shuffling) 439 00:31:43,635 --> 00:31:45,637 (footsteps) 440 00:31:48,607 --> 00:31:52,311 - Good morning, Will. May I come in? 441 00:31:52,344 --> 00:31:55,414 - Where's Crawford? - Deposed in court. 442 00:31:55,447 --> 00:31:59,151 The adventure will be yours and mine today. 443 00:31:59,185 --> 00:32:00,919 May I come in? 444 00:32:09,528 --> 00:32:12,464 I'm very careful about what I put into my body, 445 00:32:12,498 --> 00:32:15,634 which means I end up preparing most meals myself. 446 00:32:15,667 --> 00:32:19,538 A little protein scramble to start the day. 447 00:32:19,571 --> 00:32:22,574 Some eggs, some sausage. 448 00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:30,616 - Mm, it's delicious. 449 00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:33,252 Thank you. - My pleasure. 450 00:32:36,322 --> 00:32:39,225 I would apologize for my analytical ambush, 451 00:32:39,258 --> 00:32:41,760 but I know I will soon be apologizing again 452 00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:44,230 and you'll tire of that eventually, 453 00:32:44,263 --> 00:32:47,499 so I have to consider using apologies sparingly. - Just keep it professional. 454 00:32:47,533 --> 00:32:52,071 - Or we could socialize, like adults. 455 00:32:52,104 --> 00:32:54,073 God forbid we become friendly. 456 00:32:54,106 --> 00:32:56,442 - I don't find you that interesting. 457 00:32:56,475 --> 00:32:58,544 - You will. 458 00:33:05,451 --> 00:33:08,454 Agent Crawford tells me you have a knack for the monsters. 459 00:33:10,456 --> 00:33:13,259 - I don't think the Shrike killed that girl 460 00:33:13,292 --> 00:33:14,693 in the field. 461 00:33:17,596 --> 00:33:19,765 - The devil is in the details. 462 00:33:19,798 --> 00:33:23,135 What didn't your copycat do to the girl in the field? What gave it away? 463 00:33:23,169 --> 00:33:25,371 - Everything. 464 00:33:25,404 --> 00:33:32,044 It's like he had to show me a negative so that I could see the positive. It... 465 00:33:32,078 --> 00:33:34,446 That crime scene was practically gift-wrapped. 466 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,516 - The mathematics of human behaviour-- 467 00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:39,518 all those ugly variables. 468 00:33:39,551 --> 00:33:44,290 Some bad math with this Shrike fellow, huh? 469 00:33:44,323 --> 00:33:47,293 Are you reconstructing his fantasies? 470 00:33:47,326 --> 00:33:49,295 - Heh. - What kind of problems 471 00:33:49,328 --> 00:33:51,330 does he have? - Uh, he has a few. 472 00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:56,635 - You ever have any problems, Will? 473 00:33:56,668 --> 00:33:58,670 - No. 474 00:33:58,704 --> 00:34:00,439 - Of course you don't. 475 00:34:00,472 --> 00:34:02,708 You and I are just alike-- 476 00:34:02,741 --> 00:34:04,710 problem-free. Nothing about us 477 00:34:04,743 --> 00:34:07,779 to feel horrible about. 478 00:34:09,781 --> 00:34:12,751 You know, Will... 479 00:34:12,784 --> 00:34:16,255 I think Uncle Jack sees you as a fragile little teacup. 480 00:34:16,288 --> 00:34:20,392 The finest china, used for only special guests. 481 00:34:20,426 --> 00:34:24,330 (Will laughing) 482 00:34:26,798 --> 00:34:28,700 - How do you see me? 483 00:34:33,172 --> 00:34:37,176 - The mongoose I want under the house when the snakes slither by. 484 00:34:40,812 --> 00:34:42,814 Finish your breakfast. 485 00:34:49,488 --> 00:34:52,090 - (Will): What are you smiling at? 486 00:34:54,326 --> 00:34:56,828 - Peeking behind the curtain. 487 00:34:56,862 --> 00:35:01,767 I'm just curious how the FBI goes about its business when it's not kicking in doors. 488 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,237 - You're lucky we're not doing house-to-house interviews. 489 00:35:05,271 --> 00:35:07,639 We found a little piece of metal in Elise Nichols' clothes-- 490 00:35:07,673 --> 00:35:10,409 a shred from a pipe threader. 491 00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:15,247 - There must be hundreds of construction sites all over Minnesota. 492 00:35:15,281 --> 00:35:16,815 - A certain kind of metal, 493 00:35:16,848 --> 00:35:19,185 certain kind of pipe, certain kind of pipe coating, 494 00:35:19,218 --> 00:35:22,221 so we're checking all the construction sites that use that kind of pipe. 495 00:35:22,254 --> 00:35:24,223 - What are we looking for? 496 00:35:24,256 --> 00:35:26,625 - At this stage, anything really. But mostly, 497 00:35:26,658 --> 00:35:29,161 anything peculiar. 498 00:35:34,733 --> 00:35:37,203 - Two fellas from the FBI. 499 00:35:37,236 --> 00:35:39,805 They goin' through the drawers now. 500 00:35:39,838 --> 00:35:42,541 Mm-hmm. Puttin' papers in file boxes. 501 00:35:42,574 --> 00:35:45,777 Yes, they are takin' things. 502 00:35:45,811 --> 00:35:48,514 No. Well, they didn't say-- 503 00:35:48,547 --> 00:35:50,782 Yes, they can. 504 00:35:50,816 --> 00:35:53,219 What did you say your names were? 505 00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:56,755 - Garrett Jacob Hobbs? 506 00:35:56,788 --> 00:36:00,192 - He's one of our pipe threaders. Those are all the resignation letters. 507 00:36:00,226 --> 00:36:03,895 Plumbers' Union requires 'em whenever members finish a job. 508 00:36:03,929 --> 00:36:05,964 (whispering): I'll call you back. 509 00:36:05,997 --> 00:36:09,835 - Uh, does Mr. Hobbs have a daughter? - Might have. 510 00:36:09,868 --> 00:36:13,905 - Eighteen or 19, wind-chafed, uh, plain but pretty. 511 00:36:13,939 --> 00:36:17,643 She'd have auburn hair, about this tall. - Maybe. 512 00:36:17,676 --> 00:36:20,246 I don't know. I don't keep company with these people. 513 00:36:20,279 --> 00:36:22,981 - What is it about Garrett Jacob Hobbs 514 00:36:23,014 --> 00:36:24,616 you find so peculiar? 515 00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:27,386 - He left a phone number, no address. 516 00:36:27,419 --> 00:36:30,289 - And therefore he has something to hide? 517 00:36:30,322 --> 00:36:32,324 - The others all left addresses. 518 00:36:34,526 --> 00:36:36,928 Do you have an address for Mr. Hobbs? 519 00:36:45,504 --> 00:36:47,273 I got it. 520 00:37:03,955 --> 00:37:06,425 (phone ringing) 521 00:37:09,495 --> 00:37:11,597 - Hello? 522 00:37:11,630 --> 00:37:13,599 Just a second. Dad. 523 00:37:13,632 --> 00:37:15,634 It's for you. 524 00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:17,035 - Who is it? 525 00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:19,405 - Caller ID said it was... 526 00:37:21,407 --> 00:37:23,809 - Hello? 527 00:37:23,842 --> 00:37:26,612 - [Mr. Garrett Jacob Hobbs?] 528 00:37:26,645 --> 00:37:28,380 - Yeah. 529 00:37:28,414 --> 00:37:31,016 - You don't know me and I suspect we'll never meet. 530 00:37:31,049 --> 00:37:33,985 This is a courtesy call. Listen very carefully. 531 00:37:37,623 --> 00:37:39,658 Are you listening? 532 00:37:39,691 --> 00:37:41,860 - Yes. 533 00:37:43,695 --> 00:37:45,897 - They know. 534 00:38:01,613 --> 00:38:04,816 (sound muted) (soft ambient pulse) 535 00:38:16,895 --> 00:38:18,864 (Sound returns.) 536 00:38:18,897 --> 00:38:20,866 (birds singing) 537 00:38:20,899 --> 00:38:23,001 (rattling) 538 00:38:42,821 --> 00:38:46,425 - Ah... ah! 539 00:39:07,078 --> 00:39:09,981 - Garrett Jacob Hobbs! FBI! 540 00:39:13,919 --> 00:39:16,955 (girl whimpering) 541 00:39:22,628 --> 00:39:25,464 (gunshot) 542 00:39:38,577 --> 00:39:40,946 No, no, no. 543 00:39:44,082 --> 00:39:46,051 - See? 544 00:39:46,084 --> 00:39:48,086 See? 545 00:39:56,928 --> 00:39:58,630 (girl coughing and gasping) 546 00:39:58,664 --> 00:40:00,432 No, no, no. 547 00:40:50,949 --> 00:40:54,720 - (Alana): ...biting in lesser assaults and bar fights, child abuse... 548 00:40:54,753 --> 00:40:57,923 Emergency room personnel may be very helpful that way. 549 00:40:57,956 --> 00:41:01,960 If they have any memories of bad bites, no matter who was 550 00:41:01,993 --> 00:41:03,562 bitten or h-- 551 00:41:03,595 --> 00:41:07,232 ** 552 00:41:07,265 --> 00:41:08,800 - Where's Graham? 553 00:41:10,268 --> 00:41:12,871 - You said he wouldn't get too close. 554 00:41:17,709 --> 00:41:22,981 ** 555 00:42:36,755 --> 00:42:39,958 Closed Captioning by SETTE inc.