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Previously on "Clarice"...

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Clarice: Angela Bird,
Tess Laughty, Sandra Bishop --

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they were not random victims
of a serial killer.

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Those women
were whistleblowers,

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and they died trying to tell
a story.

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A story that isn't over.

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Starling, get this accountant
on our payroll.

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Hudlin: Julia.

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You sure are here late.

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Yes.
Lots to go through.

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I just wanted to say

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you're doing great work,
Gordon.

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What --
What did you say?

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See you soon.

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Catherine: I found where
his mother lives.

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Clarice: Whose mother?Buffalo Bill's.

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I'm going to go see her.

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Do you remember the first thing
you said to me?

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I said...

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Clarice: FBI!
You're safe.

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That was a lie.

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I'll never be safe.

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Neither will you.

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Can you sleep?[ Gasps ]

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Or do moths wake you up?

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There's no one for you.

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Just me.

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[ Receiver slams ][ Gasps ]

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♪♪

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[ Balls thudding loudly ]

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♪♪

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♪♪

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♪ Tempted and tried,
we're oft made to wonder ♪

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B-14. B-14.

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♪ Why it should be thus,
all the day long ♪

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A reminder that the prize
for this game

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is a beautiful
German chocolate cake,

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courtesy of Laraine Narducci.

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Thank you, Laraine.

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You went out of your
comfort zone for this one.

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♪ While there are others,
living about us ♪

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[ Suspenseful music plays ]

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♪ Never molested,
though in the wrong ♪

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N-12.

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N-12.

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Catherine: Excuse me.

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♪♪

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Can we play on
more than one card?

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♪♪

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Yep.

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♪♪

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Sorry, I've never
played before.

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♪♪

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Do I know you?

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No.

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♪♪

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You sure look familiar.

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♪♪

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I've never been here.

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Oh, I know that.

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No one here's pretty.

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I-16.

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I-16.

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♪♪

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You can play as many
as you can keep track of.

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♪♪

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Thank you.

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♪♪

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G-47.

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G-47.

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♪♪

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You got one there.

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Julia:
He found me in the file room.

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He kind of cornered me.

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Scared the hell out of me.

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Clarice:
I'm so sorry, Julia.

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♪♪

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[ Electricity buzzes ]

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Oh, my God. This --

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Those are all
people I work with.

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Julia, is this the man
who threatened you?

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Yes. Joe Hudlin.

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He used my name --
my...name from before.

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He was telling me
he knew exactly who I was.

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How did he know that?

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I didn't tell anyone.
Why would I?

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Honestly, I find that people
feel pretty comfortable

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sharing my story
without so much as a thought,

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much less a reason.Well, I promise,

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I will never violate your trust
in that way.

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Someone must have tipped Hudlin
that we're talking to you,

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and he probably looked
into your background.

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I'm so sorry.

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I don't know why
I'm helping you.

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I could lose my job,
my -- my life, Erin's life.

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This is -- This is crazy.

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A-And this is what you do
for a living?

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You just go chasing
after terrible, evil men.

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Yeah.

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Why?

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♪♪

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Can't dance.

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[ Door opens ]Esquivel: Sorry.

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Uh, Julia, you've met
Special Agent Esquivel.

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This is
Special Agent Clarke.

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Julia brought us
all the R&D reports

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from the Stage Three
Reprisol Trial.

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Esquivel: Thank you.

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And the families of these women
would thank you, too.

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Oh, my God.

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♪♪

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Glad to help.

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♪♪

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Julia? Uh,
would you like a cruller?

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♪♪

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Uh, thank you, Julia,
and we will need your eye

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making sense of all this.Julia: Sure.

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Happy to answer
any questions you have.

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And, uh, you're good
with her seeing all the...

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Can we trust her?

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Ow!

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♪♪

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Um, can I ask why we're
doing this in a basement?

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This investigation
is highly sensitive.

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And not entirely
sanctioned.

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[ Scoffs ] Great.

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♪♪

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[ Pager beeps ]

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♪♪

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That's Krendler.

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Julia, it's my boss.

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I have to go.
I'm so sorry.

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I'll be right back.

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Um, hey...

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can you just make sure
Clarke doesn't spook her?

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Clarke
can only be himself.

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Ow!
I mean it.

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What's with the punching?

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[ Door opens ]

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[ Telephones ringing,
indistinct conversations ]

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[ Beeps ]

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Yes, sir?Krendler: I'm at
Ruth Martin's apartment.

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The AG is here with me.

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Catherine has...run off.[ Door closes ]

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Apparently, she saw
an ex-boyfriend yesterday,

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and it upset her, and now --Clarice, Catherine talks to you.

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Did she mention anything?

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Um...

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ma'am, have you been
through her room?

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For what?

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She's been gathering
information about...

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Buffalo Bill's mother.

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What the hell?What?!

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Clarice, what is going on?

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Catherine told me she had
located Jame Gumb's mother,

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and she might have gone to...
confront her.

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When did she
tell you this?

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When I came for dinner.

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And you didn't see fit
to tell me?

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She told me
in confidence, ma'am.

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You don't keep Catherine's
confidences from me!

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I didn't bring you here
to be her friend!

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Starling, Starling,
what is she thinking?

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I don't think
Catherine knows, really.

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She said she wanted
to make Lila Gumb...

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"see her."

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Lila Gumb? It's his mother's name.

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She's changed it since.
That's all I know.

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Okay, we'll run
the woman's social.

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Check it against
Motor Vehicles.

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I'll have have someone at IRS,
they'll have a look.

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Starling?
You've gone quiet.

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What else, Starling?
Speak up!

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If we're looking
for Lila Gumb,

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I'd look at the evidence
from Buffalo Bill's basement.

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Go to my office.
I'll have it there for you.

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[ Receiver clicks ]

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[ Sighs ]

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Hey.

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Are you free to come
to Justice with me?

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There's some evidence waiting
that could really use your eye.

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Can it wait?
I'm about to file my complaint.

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It can't.

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Then can you find
someone else?

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It's Bill.

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[ Car door closes ]

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Clarice: We're trying to find
Jame Gumb's mother.

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The only place
I can think to look

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is in the evidence
from the Buffalo Bill case.

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We don't have a lot of time.

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Catherine might be about to do
something very...foolish.

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Ladies.

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Let us know
if you need anything.

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[ Telephones ringing
in distance ]

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You okay?

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To be here?

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[ Distorted knock on door ]

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Hi.

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You were at bingo.

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Yeah. Uh...

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I-I need to talk to you.

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♪♪

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Okay, hon.

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What's wrong?
What do you need?

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♪♪

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About your son.

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♪♪

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You with "The Tattler"?

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No, I just wanted --You little bitch.

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Following me,
at my church?

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Get the hell off my property,
or I'm gonna call the police.

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No, no, no. No. Wait.

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Aah!

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Ah, the hell.
[ Groans ]

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Now, see?
That was your own fault.

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I didn't mean to hurt you.

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Let me look.Don't touch me!

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Oh![ Thud ]

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♪♪

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Bill: [ Distorted ] How does it
feel to be so beautiful?

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♪♪

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♪♪

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♪♪

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♪ There's power in the blood

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♪♪

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♪ In the precious blood
of the Lamb ♪

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♪♪

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Catherine: Please don't die.

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Please don't die.

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[ Squeaking ]

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♪♪

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He was wearing these
when you --

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♪♪

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He would starve them
so their skin would slacken.

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♪♪

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And then he'd play a game
with them.

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♪♪

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He'd turn out
all the lights...

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[ Curtain scraping echoes ]

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...and hunt them in the basement
before he killed them.

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[ Door creaks shut,
thud echoes ]

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[ Click echoes ]

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[ Telephone ringing, distorted ]

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[ Ringing stops ]

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♪♪

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This is the mother.

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♪♪

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From these film reels.

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♪♪

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He watched this
so many times,

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there's almost more Scotch tape
then celluloid here.

277
00:11:20,549 --> 00:11:22,464
Ardelia:
He was a big fan.

278
00:11:22,507 --> 00:11:24,727
He barely knew her,
actually.

279
00:11:24,771 --> 00:11:26,337
She lost him
when Jame was 2.

280
00:11:26,381 --> 00:11:28,470
He grew up in foster homes.

281
00:11:28,513 --> 00:11:29,732
Huh.

282
00:11:29,776 --> 00:11:30,864
♪♪

283
00:11:30,907 --> 00:11:32,953
Sort of like me, yeah.

284
00:11:32,996 --> 00:11:33,954
He's nothing like you.

285
00:11:33,997 --> 00:11:35,216
No.

286
00:11:35,259 --> 00:11:37,609
I was sent away --

287
00:11:37,653 --> 00:11:39,437
he was taken away,

288
00:11:39,481 --> 00:11:42,571
then returned to his
grandparents for a time.

289
00:11:42,614 --> 00:11:49,447
♪♪

290
00:11:49,491 --> 00:11:51,058
[ Video pauses ]

291
00:11:51,101 --> 00:11:52,712
He idolized her.

292
00:11:52,755 --> 00:11:53,713
♪♪

293
00:11:53,756 --> 00:11:55,845
Fetishized his mother.

294
00:11:55,889 --> 00:11:57,412
He loved her.

295
00:11:57,455 --> 00:11:59,109
He was trying
to get back to her.

296
00:11:59,153 --> 00:12:01,459
♪♪

297
00:12:01,503 --> 00:12:03,635
Well, we always end up
going home.

298
00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,640
♪♪

299
00:12:08,684 --> 00:12:09,772
Home.

300
00:12:09,816 --> 00:12:14,951
♪♪

301
00:12:14,995 --> 00:12:19,956
♪♪

302
00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,742
When Jame's grandparents --
Lila's parents -- died,

303
00:12:22,785 --> 00:12:25,222
the funeral was in...
Carney's Point,

304
00:12:25,266 --> 00:12:26,354
New Jersey.

305
00:12:26,397 --> 00:12:28,182
Look for "Lilas" and "Gumbs"
in --

306
00:12:28,225 --> 00:12:29,400
Let's call
the Newark Division.

307
00:12:29,444 --> 00:12:31,141
[ Thump echoes ]

308
00:12:31,185 --> 00:12:34,057
Catherine: Please don't die.
Please don't die.

309
00:12:34,101 --> 00:12:39,367
♪♪

310
00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:44,415
♪♪

311
00:12:44,459 --> 00:12:47,157
No. Go on ahead.
I'll meet you there.

312
00:12:47,201 --> 00:12:48,158
Okay.[ Receiver clicks ]

313
00:12:48,202 --> 00:12:49,464
What is it?

314
00:12:49,507 --> 00:12:51,379
The residence
of a Lila Kinney,

315
00:12:51,422 --> 00:12:53,773
formerly owned
by a Thomas Gumb.

316
00:12:53,816 --> 00:12:56,036
Maybe a grandfather.
It's a family home.

317
00:12:56,079 --> 00:12:57,733
She changed her name
and went there to hide.

318
00:12:57,777 --> 00:12:59,169
This is where
Catherine went.

319
00:12:59,213 --> 00:13:01,302
So, where are we sending this?
The Newark office?

320
00:13:01,345 --> 00:13:02,651
The last thing
Catherine needs

321
00:13:02,694 --> 00:13:05,219
is a SWAT team
crashing through the windows.

322
00:13:05,262 --> 00:13:08,178
It'll go bad.
It'll go so bad.

323
00:13:08,222 --> 00:13:09,223
♪♪

324
00:13:09,266 --> 00:13:10,398
I have to go.

325
00:13:10,441 --> 00:13:12,008
I can't go with you.

326
00:13:12,052 --> 00:13:14,315
We're turning in our complaint
for the Coalition Lawsuit

327
00:13:14,358 --> 00:13:16,491
to the EEOC tonight.

328
00:13:16,534 --> 00:13:19,711
And, honestly,
as your friend,

329
00:13:19,755 --> 00:13:22,149
I'll tell you this girl
isn't your problem.

330
00:13:22,192 --> 00:13:24,107
She has plenty of resources
available to her.

331
00:13:24,151 --> 00:13:26,718
Clarice: Ardelia, there is
one person alive in this world

332
00:13:26,762 --> 00:13:28,677
who shares that basement
with Catherine.

333
00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,201
You've been wearing this
too long.

334
00:13:31,245 --> 00:13:32,289
♪♪

335
00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:33,464
[ Sighs ]

336
00:13:33,508 --> 00:13:34,552
♪♪

337
00:13:34,596 --> 00:13:37,381
You don't have to anymore.

338
00:13:37,425 --> 00:13:42,822
♪♪

339
00:13:42,865 --> 00:13:44,475
Ardelia...
I know.

340
00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:46,216
You hope
we get it done today.

341
00:13:46,260 --> 00:13:47,478
♪♪

342
00:13:47,522 --> 00:13:49,480
I know you hope for that.

343
00:13:49,524 --> 00:13:50,568
♪♪

344
00:13:50,612 --> 00:13:51,569
We will.

345
00:13:51,613 --> 00:13:53,093
♪♪

346
00:13:53,136 --> 00:13:54,877
Be careful.

347
00:13:54,921 --> 00:13:56,444
You, too.

348
00:13:56,487 --> 00:13:59,447
♪♪

349
00:13:59,490 --> 00:14:01,188
[ Door opens ]

350
00:14:01,231 --> 00:14:03,233
♪♪

351
00:14:03,277 --> 00:14:04,408
[ Door closes ]

352
00:14:04,452 --> 00:14:05,975
[ Sighs ]

353
00:14:06,019 --> 00:14:09,718
♪♪

354
00:14:09,761 --> 00:14:11,415
Catherine: Please don't die.

355
00:14:11,459 --> 00:14:12,808
I wasn't trying to hurt you.

356
00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:15,028
I-I was just trying
to talk to you,

357
00:14:15,071 --> 00:14:18,031
a-and you came at me,
and I got scared, okay?

358
00:14:18,074 --> 00:14:20,076
Please. [ Sighs ]

359
00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:28,824
♪♪

360
00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,608
Ruth: Are you sure?

361
00:14:30,652 --> 00:14:32,349
I don't know anything
for sure, ma'am,

362
00:14:32,393 --> 00:14:33,611
but that's where I'd go.

363
00:14:33,655 --> 00:14:34,917
Give me the address.
I'll call it in.

364
00:14:34,961 --> 00:14:37,006
Actually, ma'am,
I think I should go.

365
00:14:37,833 --> 00:14:39,226
Say more.
[ Sighs ]

366
00:14:39,269 --> 00:14:42,490
Okay, respectfully, ma'am,
a SWAT team has one job,

367
00:14:42,533 --> 00:14:44,187
and we both know what that is.

368
00:14:44,231 --> 00:14:47,277
If I go, I can get Catherine
out of there safely.

369
00:14:47,321 --> 00:14:48,931
You can't afford
to have this blow up.

370
00:14:48,975 --> 00:14:51,194
Neither can she.
This is both of your lives.

371
00:14:51,238 --> 00:14:52,935
Starling, it's yours, too.

372
00:14:52,979 --> 00:14:55,938
Yes, sir.
But I'm a trained FBI agent.

373
00:14:55,982 --> 00:14:57,635
Now, ma'am,
I need you to call it.

374
00:14:57,679 --> 00:15:02,771
♪♪

375
00:15:02,814 --> 00:15:05,121
Clarice, bring her home.

376
00:15:05,165 --> 00:15:09,952
♪♪

377
00:15:09,996 --> 00:15:11,649
[ Telephone beeps ][ Sighs ]

378
00:15:11,693 --> 00:15:14,652
♪♪

379
00:15:14,696 --> 00:15:17,307
[ Wheezing, groaning ]

380
00:15:17,351 --> 00:15:25,968
♪♪

381
00:15:26,012 --> 00:15:34,324
♪♪

382
00:15:34,368 --> 00:15:42,767
♪♪

383
00:15:42,811 --> 00:15:44,987
Catherine: Wake up!

384
00:15:45,031 --> 00:15:47,163
Lila:
Get the hell out of my house.

385
00:15:47,207 --> 00:15:49,209
♪♪

386
00:15:55,998 --> 00:15:57,478
Go! Why can't you people
leave me alone?

387
00:15:57,521 --> 00:15:59,001
I'm not a reporter.

388
00:15:59,045 --> 00:16:00,220
He's dead.

389
00:16:00,263 --> 00:16:01,699
It's over.

390
00:16:01,743 --> 00:16:06,008
♪♪

391
00:16:06,052 --> 00:16:07,140
Wait.

392
00:16:07,183 --> 00:16:09,011
Those curls.

393
00:16:09,055 --> 00:16:10,578
Oh, Lord.

394
00:16:10,621 --> 00:16:11,753
You're the Senator's girl.

395
00:16:11,796 --> 00:16:13,233
♪♪

396
00:16:13,276 --> 00:16:14,495
You're Catherine.

397
00:16:14,538 --> 00:16:15,844
You know my name?

398
00:16:15,887 --> 00:16:17,802
I knew
I recognized you.

399
00:16:17,846 --> 00:16:19,413
You look different.

400
00:16:19,456 --> 00:16:21,197
♪♪

401
00:16:21,241 --> 00:16:22,372
You weren't skinny.

402
00:16:22,416 --> 00:16:24,244
♪♪

403
00:16:24,287 --> 00:16:25,419
What do you want?

404
00:16:25,462 --> 00:16:27,029
I need to...

405
00:16:27,073 --> 00:16:29,031
ask you --I don't know anything.

406
00:16:29,075 --> 00:16:30,076
You have to.

407
00:16:30,119 --> 00:16:31,686
Why?

408
00:16:31,729 --> 00:16:34,297
He went into foster care
when he was 2.

409
00:16:35,124 --> 00:16:36,952
I pushed him
out of my brain

410
00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:40,869
until I read about him
in the newspaper last year.

411
00:16:40,912 --> 00:16:42,349
That's how I know your name.

412
00:16:42,392 --> 00:16:45,221
Same way I know the name
"Buffalo Bill."

413
00:16:45,265 --> 00:16:47,223
Get out.
Please don't lie.

414
00:16:47,267 --> 00:16:50,574
He was like
a wreck that happened.

415
00:16:50,618 --> 00:16:51,923
A car crash.

416
00:16:51,967 --> 00:16:53,795
[ Sniffles ] Get out!

417
00:16:53,838 --> 00:16:55,623
Stop lying to me!
You know him!

418
00:16:55,666 --> 00:16:57,625
I don't! Go!

419
00:16:57,668 --> 00:16:58,800
Go where?

420
00:16:58,843 --> 00:17:00,454
He's everywhere.

421
00:17:00,497 --> 00:17:02,717
[ Voice breaking ]
He's everywhere except here,

422
00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,633
and that doesn't make
any sense.

423
00:17:05,676 --> 00:17:07,722
♪♪

424
00:17:07,765 --> 00:17:11,552
Everybody thinks it's cool
or funny.

425
00:17:11,595 --> 00:17:12,770
♪♪

426
00:17:12,814 --> 00:17:14,555
These monsters...

427
00:17:14,598 --> 00:17:15,686
♪♪

428
00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:19,125
...they leave
human beings behind,

429
00:17:19,168 --> 00:17:20,300
like...

430
00:17:20,343 --> 00:17:22,737
♪♪

431
00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:24,304
...like you.

432
00:17:24,347 --> 00:17:25,653
♪♪

433
00:17:25,696 --> 00:17:27,829
And me.

434
00:17:27,872 --> 00:17:31,702
If I could help you,
I would.

435
00:17:31,746 --> 00:17:35,750
♪♪

436
00:17:35,793 --> 00:17:39,188
Don't you think you were
entitled to a life?

437
00:17:39,232 --> 00:17:42,191
♪♪

438
00:17:42,235 --> 00:17:43,497
Yeah.

439
00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:44,846
♪♪

440
00:17:44,889 --> 00:17:48,502
But his father sure didn't
when he ran off,

441
00:17:48,545 --> 00:17:50,156
left me behind like...

442
00:17:50,199 --> 00:17:51,548
♪♪

443
00:17:51,592 --> 00:17:53,507
Oh, they all do it, honey.

444
00:17:53,550 --> 00:17:57,554
Some way or another, they toss
the girls to the wolves.

445
00:17:57,598 --> 00:17:59,339
[ Breathes sharply ]

446
00:17:59,382 --> 00:18:02,777
♪♪

447
00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:05,693
You're just a rich girl
who found that out late.

448
00:18:05,736 --> 00:18:07,695
♪♪

449
00:18:07,738 --> 00:18:10,176
Go home to your mother.

450
00:18:10,219 --> 00:18:11,307
♪♪

451
00:18:11,351 --> 00:18:13,614
Have her tell you
the facts of life.

452
00:18:13,657 --> 00:18:15,137
♪♪

453
00:18:15,181 --> 00:18:16,878
You don't know my mother.

454
00:18:16,921 --> 00:18:18,184
[ Sighs ]

455
00:18:18,227 --> 00:18:23,537
I know she wants you
to be alright.

456
00:18:23,580 --> 00:18:28,411
♪♪

457
00:18:28,455 --> 00:18:29,630
You won.

458
00:18:29,673 --> 00:18:31,110
♪♪

459
00:18:31,153 --> 00:18:32,154
What?

460
00:18:32,198 --> 00:18:33,416
♪♪

461
00:18:33,460 --> 00:18:34,722
The bingo game.

462
00:18:34,765 --> 00:18:35,853
Oh.

463
00:18:35,897 --> 00:18:38,160
Yeah, I did.

464
00:18:38,204 --> 00:18:41,120
♪♪

465
00:18:41,163 --> 00:18:43,426
Never won anything
in my life.

466
00:18:43,470 --> 00:18:45,950
♪♪

467
00:18:45,994 --> 00:18:48,431
I took it like
it could be a sign.

468
00:18:48,475 --> 00:18:53,262
♪♪

469
00:18:53,306 --> 00:18:55,525
Look, girl...

470
00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:57,092
I can't help you.

471
00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:58,398
I told you,
he's a stranger.

472
00:18:58,441 --> 00:19:01,314
His skin cream
is in your bathroom.

473
00:19:01,357 --> 00:19:02,663
What?

474
00:19:02,706 --> 00:19:04,752
The smell.

475
00:19:04,795 --> 00:19:07,189
[ Sniffles ]
I've never smelled it anywhere

476
00:19:07,233 --> 00:19:10,149
but the hole in the ground.

477
00:19:10,192 --> 00:19:11,976
I had to smell like that!

478
00:19:12,020 --> 00:19:14,196
[ Screaming ]

479
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,980
Tell me what you did
to make him --

480
00:19:16,024 --> 00:19:17,591
[ Banging on door ]

481
00:19:17,634 --> 00:19:18,592
Clarice:
[ Muffled ] Mrs. Kinney?

482
00:19:18,635 --> 00:19:20,594
[ Whimpers ]

483
00:19:20,637 --> 00:19:22,944
[ Whispering ] Shut up.

484
00:19:22,987 --> 00:19:24,772
♪♪

485
00:19:24,815 --> 00:19:26,469
Lila Kinney? FBI.

486
00:19:26,513 --> 00:19:28,210
[ Banging on door ]

487
00:19:28,254 --> 00:19:36,871
♪♪

488
00:19:36,914 --> 00:19:38,307
Catherine?

489
00:19:38,351 --> 00:19:47,229
♪♪

490
00:19:47,273 --> 00:19:55,933
♪♪

491
00:19:55,977 --> 00:20:04,812
♪♪

492
00:20:04,855 --> 00:20:07,380
[ Engine starts ]

493
00:20:07,423 --> 00:20:16,693
♪♪

494
00:20:16,737 --> 00:20:19,609
If you look, something's weird
about how we paid the CRO.

495
00:20:19,653 --> 00:20:22,177
Here are payouts to
Lockyer Laboratories, Inc.

496
00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:25,006
That's for the Phase Three
Reprisol trial.

497
00:20:25,049 --> 00:20:27,878
Here are more payouts
a year later.

498
00:20:27,922 --> 00:20:30,794
♪♪

499
00:20:30,838 --> 00:20:32,883
Lockyer Labs, LLC.

500
00:20:32,927 --> 00:20:34,320
They're two different
Federal Tax IDs.

501
00:20:34,363 --> 00:20:36,017
They're two
different companies.

502
00:20:36,060 --> 00:20:37,497
It's a shell company.

503
00:20:37,540 --> 00:20:40,848
Alastor set it up to scrub
the results before the sale.

504
00:20:40,891 --> 00:20:42,153
At least they
tried something

505
00:20:42,197 --> 00:20:44,155
before murdering
three whistleblowers.

506
00:20:44,199 --> 00:20:45,635
Julia:
And there's something else.

507
00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:48,986
Joe Hudlin is getting
an absurdly high percentage

508
00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:50,336
of the sale for a lawyer.

509
00:20:50,379 --> 00:20:52,860
Like, 0.08%.

510
00:20:52,903 --> 00:20:54,688
It's $10 million.

511
00:20:54,731 --> 00:20:56,690
♪♪

512
00:20:56,733 --> 00:21:01,129
So, Hudlin stood to gain
from faking the trial results?

513
00:21:01,172 --> 00:21:02,957
Definitely.

514
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:12,923
♪♪

515
00:21:14,708 --> 00:21:16,797
Is there something I can
help you with, Agent Clarke?

516
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,755
♪♪

517
00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:20,453
I-I don't think so.
Uh...

518
00:21:20,496 --> 00:21:24,108
Yeah. I can see the buffet
of questions in your eyes.

519
00:21:24,152 --> 00:21:27,068
"Uh, Julia, what bathroom
do you use?

520
00:21:27,111 --> 00:21:29,244
Uh, how could you ever
give up being a man?"

521
00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:31,899
Ooh. "If I think you're hot,
does that make me gay?

522
00:21:31,942 --> 00:21:33,117
When did --"Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop.

523
00:21:33,161 --> 00:21:36,164
I ge-- I get it,
but you don't know me,

524
00:21:36,207 --> 00:21:39,254
and I-I don't -- I don't need
to know all that.

525
00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:41,474
Then what doyou
need to know?

526
00:21:43,432 --> 00:21:46,914
Wh-- I was gonna ask
if, um...

527
00:21:46,957 --> 00:21:48,263
you dyed your hair.

528
00:21:50,961 --> 00:21:54,878
My sister --
on her 13th birthday,

529
00:21:54,922 --> 00:21:56,793
our mother
let her dye her hair.

530
00:21:56,837 --> 00:21:58,404
Same color as yours.

531
00:21:58,447 --> 00:22:01,668
She liked it so much, she bought
extra packets of the stuff.

532
00:22:01,711 --> 00:22:04,758
Not that she ever
got to use them.

533
00:22:04,801 --> 00:22:06,673
Um, did she pass away?

534
00:22:06,716 --> 00:22:09,806
♪♪

535
00:22:09,850 --> 00:22:11,330
She disappeared.

536
00:22:11,373 --> 00:22:13,984
Uh, someone took her,
trafficked her.

537
00:22:14,028 --> 00:22:15,377
Oh.
Yeah.

538
00:22:15,421 --> 00:22:17,466
Yeah, we're still looking.

539
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:18,685
I am.

540
00:22:18,728 --> 00:22:21,731
♪♪

541
00:22:21,775 --> 00:22:23,603
I'm sorry.

542
00:22:23,646 --> 00:22:25,039
Uh -- Uh, thank you.

543
00:22:25,082 --> 00:22:27,868
Anyway, a few years back,
they discontinued the shade.

544
00:22:27,911 --> 00:22:30,784
So, I-I was thinking
that maybe...

545
00:22:30,827 --> 00:22:32,655
they brought it back again.

546
00:22:32,699 --> 00:22:34,265
♪♪

547
00:22:34,309 --> 00:22:37,094
It's --
It's my natural color.

548
00:22:37,138 --> 00:22:38,922
Ah. Yes.

549
00:22:38,966 --> 00:22:40,663
Well.

550
00:22:40,707 --> 00:22:44,014
It looks nice, anyway.
[ Chuckles lightly ]

551
00:22:44,058 --> 00:22:47,322
Okay. Uh, let's
get back to work, huh?

552
00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:51,195
[ Clears throat ]
Anybody want a coffee or...

553
00:22:51,239 --> 00:22:52,762
[ Door opens ]

554
00:22:52,806 --> 00:22:56,984
♪♪

555
00:22:57,027 --> 00:23:03,033
♪♪

556
00:23:03,077 --> 00:23:04,165
You okay?

557
00:23:04,208 --> 00:23:05,645
♪♪

558
00:23:05,688 --> 00:23:07,864
Yeah, I just...
[ Clears throat ]

559
00:23:07,908 --> 00:23:11,302
I feel like you're asking me
to burn my house down

560
00:23:11,346 --> 00:23:13,653
while I'm still
standing in it.

561
00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:14,610
♪♪

562
00:23:14,654 --> 00:23:17,526
The house was
always on fire.

563
00:23:17,570 --> 00:23:19,833
It was burning
when you walked in.

564
00:23:19,876 --> 00:23:24,838
♪♪

565
00:23:24,881 --> 00:23:26,753
Krendler: Let me know
if Starling checks in.

566
00:23:26,796 --> 00:23:28,363
[ Clock ticking ]

567
00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:30,626
My guys didn't even know she
left, much less where she went.

568
00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:32,541
That was the point, Paul.She's my agent.

569
00:23:32,585 --> 00:23:36,284
Starling is myagent,
and I'll remind you, so are you.

570
00:23:36,327 --> 00:23:39,069
[ Sighs ] We are not gonna
do this again, Ruth.

571
00:23:39,113 --> 00:23:41,463
Really? We're gonna
talk about this now?

572
00:23:41,507 --> 00:23:43,596
When my daughter is --Yes.

573
00:23:44,858 --> 00:23:46,729
Because last time
Catherine went missing,

574
00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:47,817
you did the same thing.

575
00:23:47,861 --> 00:23:49,210
Have you forgotten?Paul.

576
00:23:49,253 --> 00:23:51,081
You made a backdoor deal
with a serial murderer

577
00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:52,605
to get information
about who took her.

578
00:23:52,648 --> 00:23:54,389
You undermined the FBI.[ Liquid pouring ]

579
00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:56,043
You put lives in danger.

580
00:23:56,086 --> 00:23:57,305
And you were right there
with me,

581
00:23:57,348 --> 00:23:58,741
so I don't know why
now, suddenly --

582
00:23:58,785 --> 00:24:01,440
And we sprung a maniac
from confinement,

583
00:24:01,483 --> 00:24:03,311
where he escaped
and eviscerated two cops

584
00:24:03,354 --> 00:24:05,400
and a paramedic
and God knows who else!

585
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,054
Wedid that!

586
00:24:07,097 --> 00:24:12,886
♪♪

587
00:24:12,929 --> 00:24:15,628
Have you ever thought
about those cops, Ruth?

588
00:24:15,671 --> 00:24:16,846
Have you?

589
00:24:16,890 --> 00:24:20,110
You are about one word
from losing your job.

590
00:24:20,154 --> 00:24:22,852
[ Clock ticking ]

591
00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:26,508
The only thing either of us
wanted to do...

592
00:24:26,552 --> 00:24:30,077
was make the choices
that kept people safe.

593
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:31,557
♪♪

594
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,906
And you're risking
her life.

595
00:24:32,949 --> 00:24:34,342
I am trusting her.

596
00:24:34,385 --> 00:24:35,735
Which is something
you've never done.

597
00:24:35,778 --> 00:24:38,607
I don't trust her
not to get herself killed.

598
00:24:38,651 --> 00:24:47,529
♪♪

599
00:24:47,573 --> 00:24:50,271
Did you always
use that lotion?

600
00:24:50,314 --> 00:24:52,142
Did he want me
to smell like you?

601
00:24:52,186 --> 00:24:55,711
I lost him when he was 2.

602
00:24:55,755 --> 00:24:57,321
He couldn't have
remembered --

603
00:24:57,365 --> 00:24:58,932
Lost him?

604
00:24:58,975 --> 00:25:00,716
What did you do?

605
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,935
I drank.

606
00:25:01,978 --> 00:25:03,458
♪♪

607
00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:05,286
I was a drinker.

608
00:25:05,329 --> 00:25:06,853
But the State wasn't gonna
let me have him,

609
00:25:06,896 --> 00:25:10,117
so I asked my Momma and Daddy
to take him in.

610
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,335
[ Gun cocks ]

611
00:25:11,379 --> 00:25:14,251
Tell me about the smell.

612
00:25:14,295 --> 00:25:16,210
I'm telling you!

613
00:25:16,253 --> 00:25:18,255
My mother's bathroom.

614
00:25:18,299 --> 00:25:20,344
♪♪

615
00:25:20,388 --> 00:25:21,955
She didn't even like it.

616
00:25:21,998 --> 00:25:23,434
♪♪

617
00:25:23,478 --> 00:25:25,132
My father did.

618
00:25:25,175 --> 00:25:26,394
♪♪

619
00:25:26,437 --> 00:25:28,962
She said the smell
gave her a headache,

620
00:25:29,005 --> 00:25:31,486
but she wore it for him.

621
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:33,227
That's where I found it.

622
00:25:33,270 --> 00:25:34,794
♪♪

623
00:25:34,837 --> 00:25:36,273
And Jame did, too.

624
00:25:36,317 --> 00:25:42,105
Your boy wanted my skin
soft and loose,

625
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:45,718
so it would peel off me.

626
00:25:45,761 --> 00:25:46,980
♪♪

627
00:25:47,023 --> 00:25:48,808
He was...

628
00:25:48,851 --> 00:25:50,853
♪♪

629
00:25:50,897 --> 00:25:52,855
He was disconnected.

630
00:25:52,899 --> 00:25:54,683
♪♪

631
00:25:54,727 --> 00:25:58,513
My mother
called him "hateful."

632
00:25:58,557 --> 00:25:59,775
What did they do to him?

633
00:25:59,819 --> 00:26:01,081
[ Sighs ]

634
00:26:01,124 --> 00:26:02,996
Tell me!

635
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:05,346
I can't.
Tell me!

636
00:26:05,389 --> 00:26:06,913
Clarice: Catherine?

637
00:26:06,956 --> 00:26:11,657
♪♪

638
00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:13,267
Clarice:
Hand me the gun, okay?

639
00:26:13,310 --> 00:26:14,616
♪♪

640
00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:16,662
Catherine:
Hello, Clarice.

641
00:26:16,705 --> 00:26:18,228
♪♪

642
00:26:18,272 --> 00:26:19,316
Lila.

643
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:20,535
♪♪

644
00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:22,798
This is the bitch
who killed your son.

645
00:26:22,842 --> 00:26:24,844
♪♪

646
00:26:35,637 --> 00:26:36,943
Catherine, put the gun down.
Let's go home.

647
00:26:36,986 --> 00:26:38,684
Did my mother
send you here?

648
00:26:38,727 --> 00:26:39,989
Mrs. Kinney, go.

649
00:26:40,033 --> 00:26:41,687
Go now.
Don't.

650
00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:43,776
I don't buy her being a parent
all of a sudden.

651
00:26:43,819 --> 00:26:46,430
Well, what if she did send her?
Your momma?

652
00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:48,476
Someone's gotta
take care of you.

653
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:50,783
You're thin
as a stray dog.

654
00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:53,655
This is on you, Catherine.
Not your mother.

655
00:26:53,699 --> 00:26:55,526
I know you two are caught up
in some hard stuff,

656
00:26:55,570 --> 00:26:58,660
but that doesn't mean
she isn't standing by you 100%.

657
00:26:58,704 --> 00:27:00,880
Love doesn't always look like
we want it to.

658
00:27:00,923 --> 00:27:02,011
It's time to move on.

659
00:27:02,055 --> 00:27:05,145
Move on?
What about you?

660
00:27:05,188 --> 00:27:07,626
I could draw his house
from memory,

661
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:11,325
and you can't remember
half your time in that basement.

662
00:27:11,368 --> 00:27:13,675
Your mother probably
has a scrapbook

663
00:27:13,719 --> 00:27:15,198
filled with your articles
in it!

664
00:27:15,242 --> 00:27:17,200
Get out! Get out!

665
00:27:17,244 --> 00:27:18,767
Catherine,
put the gun down!

666
00:27:18,811 --> 00:27:21,248
Stop! Everyone.
[ Breathing quickly ]

667
00:27:21,291 --> 00:27:24,077
Catherine, you're right.

668
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,340
I think about him
every day.

669
00:27:26,383 --> 00:27:27,733
Every single day.

670
00:27:27,776 --> 00:27:31,214
I'll tell you what I can,
alright?

671
00:27:31,258 --> 00:27:33,390
♪♪

672
00:27:33,434 --> 00:27:36,002
Ruth:
Of course I think about them.

673
00:27:36,045 --> 00:27:37,873
Those officers.

674
00:27:37,917 --> 00:27:39,875
I have dreams about them.

675
00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:41,703
Horrible dreams.

676
00:27:41,747 --> 00:27:43,183
[ Clock ticking ]

677
00:27:43,226 --> 00:27:45,576
They don't have faces.

678
00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:47,491
♪♪

679
00:27:47,535 --> 00:27:51,234
I had no idea that what I was
doing would lead to that.

680
00:27:51,278 --> 00:27:54,063
I just wanted my little girl
back, Paul.

681
00:27:54,107 --> 00:27:55,282
I know.

682
00:27:55,325 --> 00:27:58,067
But...she just needed

683
00:27:58,111 --> 00:28:00,679
s-something different
than me.

684
00:28:00,722 --> 00:28:03,725
I was never the right one
for her.

685
00:28:03,769 --> 00:28:08,251
I might've been a good mother
for someone else, but not her.

686
00:28:08,295 --> 00:28:11,864
Lila: I met Jame's father
at a beauty pageant.

687
00:28:11,907 --> 00:28:14,649
He took me to Los Angeles.

688
00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,172
He said
I could be an actress.

689
00:28:16,216 --> 00:28:17,652
♪♪

690
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:22,570
My first audition was
for a Van Johnson picture.

691
00:28:22,613 --> 00:28:26,748
Oh, I was barely showing,
just a little bump,

692
00:28:26,792 --> 00:28:30,534
but they took one look at me
and told me to go home.

693
00:28:31,448 --> 00:28:34,016
Jame's daddy
didn't like that.

694
00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:35,235
He left.

695
00:28:35,278 --> 00:28:36,453
[ Ticking continues ]

696
00:28:36,497 --> 00:28:39,326
But Catherine
came into the world

697
00:28:39,369 --> 00:28:42,198
yelling and vibrant
and fussy

698
00:28:42,242 --> 00:28:45,158
and so...

699
00:28:45,201 --> 00:28:48,465
loving, intensely loving.

700
00:28:48,509 --> 00:28:50,859
At 4,
she would hug you so tight,

701
00:28:50,903 --> 00:28:52,295
she'd leave a bruise.

702
00:28:52,339 --> 00:28:54,123
♪♪

703
00:28:54,167 --> 00:28:57,126
And she'd laugh
in her sleep.

704
00:28:57,170 --> 00:28:59,259
I don't know
where she came from,

705
00:28:59,302 --> 00:29:02,001
but I loved her so much.

706
00:29:02,044 --> 00:29:04,612
♪♪

707
00:29:04,655 --> 00:29:05,569
[ Sniffles ]

708
00:29:05,613 --> 00:29:07,920
I loved her so much
it hurt.

709
00:29:07,963 --> 00:29:09,660
♪♪

710
00:29:09,704 --> 00:29:11,967
Lila: I believed
what people said --

711
00:29:12,011 --> 00:29:14,317
I'd love him
when I held him.

712
00:29:14,361 --> 00:29:15,797
♪♪

713
00:29:15,841 --> 00:29:18,147
And I did.

714
00:29:18,191 --> 00:29:19,627
I tried.

715
00:29:19,670 --> 00:29:22,804
You hurt him?
Is that why the state took him?

716
00:29:22,848 --> 00:29:25,241
No. Never.

717
00:29:25,285 --> 00:29:28,027
I had a job interview.
Cleaning.

718
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:29,680
Jame had an earache.

719
00:29:29,724 --> 00:29:33,336
He screamed on the bus,
all the way downtown.

720
00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:34,511
[ Sighs ]

721
00:29:34,555 --> 00:29:36,818
The bus driver
kicked us off.

722
00:29:36,862 --> 00:29:40,909
I got some cough syrup,
and that quieted him.

723
00:29:40,953 --> 00:29:42,824
And then he fell asleep.

724
00:29:42,868 --> 00:29:44,826
And then I...

725
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:47,176
I drank the rest.

726
00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:49,048
To calm myself.

727
00:29:49,962 --> 00:29:53,008
By the time we got there,
they wouldn't even see me.

728
00:29:53,052 --> 00:29:54,705
[ Sighs ]

729
00:29:54,749 --> 00:29:58,100
And that's when I realized
Jame wasn't with me.

730
00:29:58,144 --> 00:29:59,536
♪♪

731
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:02,017
You'd left him.

732
00:30:02,061 --> 00:30:03,671
On the bus.

733
00:30:03,714 --> 00:30:04,933
♪♪

734
00:30:04,977 --> 00:30:07,718
Ruth: All I ever wanted to do
was help her.

735
00:30:07,762 --> 00:30:09,633
But every single thing
I said and did

736
00:30:09,677 --> 00:30:12,201
just made her hate me more.

737
00:30:12,245 --> 00:30:14,029
Intentions count.

738
00:30:14,073 --> 00:30:15,857
At least, I hope they do.

739
00:30:15,901 --> 00:30:18,033
For all the damage we do.

740
00:30:18,077 --> 00:30:21,123
Do you think if we'd known
this was coming...

741
00:30:21,167 --> 00:30:22,864
♪♪

742
00:30:22,908 --> 00:30:24,170
...nights like this...

743
00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:25,214
♪♪

744
00:30:25,258 --> 00:30:26,476
[ Sniffles ]

745
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,001
Would we have had children
at all?

746
00:30:29,044 --> 00:30:30,437
[ Clock ticking ]

747
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,005
Lila: They wouldn't even
let me say goodbye to him.

748
00:30:33,048 --> 00:30:37,879
I went to jail
f-for three months...

749
00:30:37,923 --> 00:30:40,577
for child neglect,

750
00:30:40,621 --> 00:30:42,579
and when I got back,
I was --

751
00:30:42,623 --> 00:30:45,278
[ Ticking continues ]

752
00:30:45,321 --> 00:30:47,410
I don't know
what happened to Jame.

753
00:30:47,454 --> 00:30:49,804
You said
your parents took him in.

754
00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:54,287
♪♪

755
00:30:54,330 --> 00:30:55,766
He killed them.

756
00:30:55,810 --> 00:30:57,420
♪♪

757
00:30:57,464 --> 00:30:59,205
At 12 years old.

758
00:30:59,248 --> 00:31:00,423
♪♪

759
00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:02,948
He killed them both.

760
00:31:02,991 --> 00:31:06,299
He slashed them to death
with a box cutter.

761
00:31:06,342 --> 00:31:09,693
♪♪

762
00:31:09,737 --> 00:31:12,174
Probably supposed
to be me.

763
00:31:12,218 --> 00:31:14,611
♪♪

764
00:31:14,655 --> 00:31:16,570
[ Voice breaking ]
I prayed

765
00:31:16,613 --> 00:31:18,746
that there was something

766
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:22,228
that would
explain why...

767
00:31:22,271 --> 00:31:24,752
he was so wrong.

768
00:31:24,795 --> 00:31:26,406
♪♪

769
00:31:26,449 --> 00:31:28,451
A birth defect.

770
00:31:28,495 --> 00:31:29,931
Something.

771
00:31:29,975 --> 00:31:31,367
♪♪

772
00:31:31,411 --> 00:31:33,674
But I just didn't
love him right.

773
00:31:33,717 --> 00:31:36,372
Get out! Get out![ Porcelain shatters ]

774
00:31:36,416 --> 00:31:37,591
[ Gasps lightly ]

775
00:31:37,634 --> 00:31:40,115
He was in
11 foster homes.

776
00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:42,291
Some of them were --If I'd kept him with me --

777
00:31:42,335 --> 00:31:43,553
There's no telling.

778
00:31:43,597 --> 00:31:45,468
I'm not here
to feel sorry for her!

779
00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:47,906
It's somebody's fault!
He didn't just happen!

780
00:31:47,949 --> 00:31:49,603
Yes, he did!

781
00:31:49,646 --> 00:31:52,171
He did!
He just happened!

782
00:31:52,214 --> 00:31:55,522
He stole my life!

783
00:31:55,565 --> 00:31:57,480
I can't eat!

784
00:31:57,524 --> 00:31:59,787
I can't move!
I can't love!

785
00:31:59,830 --> 00:32:01,354
I...

786
00:32:01,397 --> 00:32:03,965
can't be who anyone
needs me to be!

787
00:32:04,009 --> 00:32:05,445
♪♪

788
00:32:05,488 --> 00:32:07,012
Someone has to answer
for him!

789
00:32:07,055 --> 00:32:10,667
Catherine, don't let him
kill you twice!

790
00:32:10,711 --> 00:32:12,931
You came back
from that pit.

791
00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:15,803
You were smarter.
You stayed alive.

792
00:32:15,846 --> 00:32:18,980
But if you make me
shoot you now, he wins.

793
00:32:19,024 --> 00:32:20,025
♪♪

794
00:32:20,068 --> 00:32:21,417
It wasn't you.

795
00:32:21,461 --> 00:32:23,332
♪♪

796
00:32:23,376 --> 00:32:24,855
[ Voice breaking ]
It wasn't me.

797
00:32:24,899 --> 00:32:26,074
It was him.

798
00:32:26,118 --> 00:32:28,555
♪♪

799
00:32:28,598 --> 00:32:30,165
You don't have to
carry it anymore.

800
00:32:30,209 --> 00:32:32,515
You don't have
to carry himanymore.

801
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:34,865
You can learn
to put him down.

802
00:32:34,909 --> 00:32:37,172
♪♪

803
00:32:37,216 --> 00:32:38,347
I can, too.

804
00:32:38,391 --> 00:32:46,051
♪♪

805
00:32:46,094 --> 00:32:53,623
♪♪

806
00:32:53,667 --> 00:32:54,973
[ Clattering gun echoes ]

807
00:32:55,016 --> 00:32:56,365
♪♪

808
00:32:56,409 --> 00:32:58,019
[ Thump echoes ]

809
00:32:58,063 --> 00:32:59,586
♪♪

810
00:32:59,629 --> 00:33:02,197
[ Catherine sobbing ]

811
00:33:02,241 --> 00:33:10,075
♪♪

812
00:33:10,118 --> 00:33:12,120
♪♪

813
00:33:22,217 --> 00:33:28,832
♪♪

814
00:33:28,876 --> 00:33:35,056
♪♪

815
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:36,536
Clarice:
My mother sent me away.

816
00:33:36,579 --> 00:33:38,059
♪♪

817
00:33:38,103 --> 00:33:41,149
I grew up in an orphanage,
and I'm nothing like him.

818
00:33:41,193 --> 00:33:42,672
♪♪

819
00:33:42,716 --> 00:33:45,414
Is that supposed to
make me feel better?

820
00:33:45,458 --> 00:33:48,765
♪♪

821
00:33:48,809 --> 00:33:50,245
You take care, ma'am.

822
00:33:50,289 --> 00:33:56,251
♪♪

823
00:33:56,295 --> 00:34:02,257
♪♪

824
00:34:02,301 --> 00:34:03,606
[ Laughter ]

825
00:34:03,650 --> 00:34:05,739
He was literally
stealing money

826
00:34:05,782 --> 00:34:06,914
from my underwear drawer.

827
00:34:06,957 --> 00:34:08,698
-I knew it. I knew it.
-Ew, no.

828
00:34:08,742 --> 00:34:11,179
-Screw him.
-Actually, no.

829
00:34:11,223 --> 00:34:12,441
Never screw him again.

830
00:34:12,485 --> 00:34:14,574
Woman: Better plan.
Better plan.

831
00:34:14,617 --> 00:34:16,967
Why do I keep attracting
these losers?

832
00:34:17,011 --> 00:34:19,579
Am I stupid?No. No, you're not stupid.

833
00:34:19,622 --> 00:34:23,191
But...you do sometimes
attract unsavory men.

834
00:34:23,235 --> 00:34:25,411
But it's because you're
so vulnerable and --

835
00:34:25,454 --> 00:34:28,936
and open-hearted and --
and beautiful and kind and --

836
00:34:28,979 --> 00:34:31,069
And, ooh, a little stupid.

837
00:34:31,112 --> 00:34:32,722
A little stupid.A little stupid.
It's fine.

838
00:34:32,766 --> 00:34:35,029
-Cheers.
-Yeah. Cheers.

839
00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:36,465
[ Laughter ]

840
00:34:36,509 --> 00:34:38,598
[ Telephone ringing ]Oh.

841
00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:41,992
♪♪

842
00:34:42,036 --> 00:34:43,298
Hello?
Clarke: Julia.

843
00:34:43,342 --> 00:34:44,908
It's Special Agent Clarke.

844
00:34:44,952 --> 00:34:47,868
Oh, uh, now --
now's not a good time.

845
00:34:47,911 --> 00:34:50,349
Yeah, I-I know.
You have people over.

846
00:34:50,392 --> 00:34:51,524
You're --

847
00:34:51,567 --> 00:34:53,613
[ Laughter in distance ]

848
00:34:53,656 --> 00:34:55,919
You're watching me?

849
00:34:55,963 --> 00:34:57,965
♪♪

850
00:34:58,008 --> 00:34:59,706
Why?Esquivel: W-W-We came to talk

851
00:34:59,749 --> 00:35:01,708
to you, but we saw
you had company.

852
00:35:01,751 --> 00:35:03,579
We didn't want to
mess up your evening.

853
00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:06,147
Listen, the information
you got us,

854
00:35:06,191 --> 00:35:08,802
it almost gets us there,
legally.

855
00:35:08,845 --> 00:35:10,151
But we need to be able
to prove

856
00:35:10,195 --> 00:35:12,632
that Nils Hagen
knew exactly what he was doing

857
00:35:12,675 --> 00:35:14,024
when he put that drug
on the market.

858
00:35:14,068 --> 00:35:15,722
Would you be willing
to try again?

859
00:35:15,765 --> 00:35:17,506
Search through the records
one more time?

860
00:35:17,550 --> 00:35:19,204
I gave you what I could.

861
00:35:19,247 --> 00:35:20,901
Now you want me to do...

862
00:35:20,944 --> 00:35:23,730
what? Julia, hey, I know.

863
00:35:23,773 --> 00:35:24,992
You have a nice house.

864
00:35:25,035 --> 00:35:27,473
You -- You have friends,
you -- people.

865
00:35:27,516 --> 00:35:29,301
Uh, you have
a lot at stake here,

866
00:35:29,344 --> 00:35:31,868
and a young girl
was killed doing this.

867
00:35:31,912 --> 00:35:36,656
Uh. If you can't do any more,
I get it.

868
00:35:36,699 --> 00:35:38,048
Just, um...

869
00:35:38,092 --> 00:35:40,616
[ Dogs barking in distance ]

870
00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:41,922
...thank you.

871
00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:44,011
Just go back to your life.

872
00:35:44,054 --> 00:35:45,186
♪♪

873
00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:47,623
[ Laughter in distance ]

874
00:35:47,667 --> 00:35:49,190
Uh, I have to think.

875
00:35:49,234 --> 00:35:51,845
Um, I'll be in touch.

876
00:35:51,888 --> 00:35:53,238
Now, go away.

877
00:35:54,456 --> 00:35:56,241
[ Receiver clicks ]

878
00:35:56,284 --> 00:35:58,330
You think she'll do it?

879
00:35:58,373 --> 00:36:00,114
Hard to say.

880
00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:03,813
I mean,
she's a strong...woman,

881
00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:06,947
but hell of a choice.

882
00:36:06,990 --> 00:36:09,732
[ Keys jingle, engine starts ]

883
00:36:09,776 --> 00:36:12,213
She'll do it.

884
00:36:12,257 --> 00:36:13,345
She has to.

885
00:36:13,388 --> 00:36:15,564
We're running out of time.

886
00:36:15,608 --> 00:36:20,743
♪♪

887
00:36:20,787 --> 00:36:25,835
♪♪

888
00:36:25,879 --> 00:36:27,576
[ Brakes squeal ]

889
00:36:28,447 --> 00:36:30,405
[ Engine shuts off ][ Siren wailing in distance ]

890
00:36:30,449 --> 00:36:32,538
What are we doing?

891
00:36:32,581 --> 00:36:36,237
♪♪

892
00:36:36,281 --> 00:36:37,934
I'm calling your mom.

893
00:36:37,978 --> 00:36:40,241
[ Cellphone rings ]

894
00:36:41,808 --> 00:36:43,026
[ Beeps ]

895
00:36:43,070 --> 00:36:44,419
Starling?Clarice: [ Sighs]

896
00:36:44,463 --> 00:36:45,638
I have her. She's alright.

897
00:36:45,681 --> 00:36:47,161
Oh, thank God.

898
00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:49,772
Thank you.
Was it what you thought?

899
00:36:49,816 --> 00:36:51,165
♪♪

900
00:36:51,209 --> 00:36:53,646
She held Lila Kinney
at gunpoint.

901
00:36:53,689 --> 00:36:54,777
Is everyone safe?

902
00:36:54,821 --> 00:36:56,083
Yes, sir. We're in the car.

903
00:36:56,126 --> 00:36:58,651
[ Sighs ]
And, uh, the woman? Is she --

904
00:36:58,694 --> 00:37:00,740
She'll be fine,
and I don't expect

905
00:37:00,783 --> 00:37:02,263
we'll hear from her again.

906
00:37:02,307 --> 00:37:03,656
[ Sighs ]

907
00:37:03,699 --> 00:37:06,267
Ma'am...
I'm gonna turn her in

908
00:37:06,311 --> 00:37:08,269
to the Carney's Point
New Jersey Police.

909
00:37:08,313 --> 00:37:11,011
But I thought --There have to be
consequences, ma'am.

910
00:37:11,054 --> 00:37:13,448
A terrible thing
happened to Catherine.

911
00:37:13,492 --> 00:37:15,276
She can come through it
in a couple of ways,

912
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,800
but making this all just go away
is not one of them.

913
00:37:17,844 --> 00:37:20,281
Clarice, bring
my daughter home.

914
00:37:20,325 --> 00:37:22,588
[ Sighs ] The charge will be
assault and trespassing,

915
00:37:22,631 --> 00:37:25,112
and I'll push for a fast
arraignment and a psych eval.

916
00:37:25,155 --> 00:37:26,809
If she were anyone
else's daughter,

917
00:37:26,853 --> 00:37:28,811
this wouldn't even
be a question.

918
00:37:28,855 --> 00:37:30,944
She needs to know
what she's done.

919
00:37:30,987 --> 00:37:33,860
She needs to feel it.

920
00:37:33,903 --> 00:37:35,644
And I have to go now, ma'am.

921
00:37:35,688 --> 00:37:37,646
[ Clock ticking ]

922
00:37:37,690 --> 00:37:42,912
♪♪

923
00:37:42,956 --> 00:37:45,175
Did you think
I'd do it different?

924
00:37:45,219 --> 00:37:47,395
♪♪

925
00:37:47,439 --> 00:37:49,136
I don't know.

926
00:37:49,179 --> 00:37:57,318
♪♪

927
00:37:57,362 --> 00:37:58,450
[ Sniffles ]

928
00:37:58,493 --> 00:38:05,413
♪♪

929
00:38:05,457 --> 00:38:11,114
♪♪

930
00:38:11,158 --> 00:38:12,420
Dr. Li:
And no one got hurt?

931
00:38:12,464 --> 00:38:15,336
Clarice: Well...
everyone got hurt.

932
00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:16,729
No one got shot.

933
00:38:16,772 --> 00:38:18,470
[ Clock ticking ]

934
00:38:18,513 --> 00:38:26,521
♪♪

935
00:38:26,565 --> 00:38:30,569
Well, I might have grenaded
my career, actually.

936
00:38:30,612 --> 00:38:32,832
For Catherine, it felt
kind of inevitable,

937
00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:34,399
but Lila Gumb...

938
00:38:35,704 --> 00:38:37,924
I can't even imagine.

939
00:38:39,273 --> 00:38:42,320
But we all need
to keep moving through.

940
00:38:42,363 --> 00:38:43,930
I know that.

941
00:38:43,973 --> 00:38:45,410
And that's
what you're doing?

942
00:38:46,759 --> 00:38:48,326
You went in alone.

943
00:38:48,369 --> 00:38:49,588
Again.

944
00:38:50,415 --> 00:38:52,808
Yeah.You went in alone in Baltimore.

945
00:38:52,852 --> 00:38:56,246
You went in alone with Bill,
with Marilyn Felker.

946
00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:59,162
It's nearly killed you
every time.

947
00:39:00,207 --> 00:39:02,992
What is it
that you want so badly?

948
00:39:04,254 --> 00:39:06,822
I just want to be
a good agent.

949
00:39:06,866 --> 00:39:07,910
A good officer.

950
00:39:07,954 --> 00:39:09,303
A good officer works alone?

951
00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:11,566
My dad worked alone.

952
00:39:11,610 --> 00:39:13,525
You said that
pretty fast.

953
00:39:14,830 --> 00:39:17,006
Well, he did.

954
00:39:19,444 --> 00:39:20,575
And your mother?

955
00:39:20,619 --> 00:39:22,403
♪♪

956
00:39:22,447 --> 00:39:23,709
Did she work alone?

957
00:39:23,752 --> 00:39:25,275
♪♪

958
00:39:25,319 --> 00:39:27,234
She was a hotel maid
after your father died.

959
00:39:27,277 --> 00:39:28,714
She raised the kids
all by herself.

960
00:39:28,757 --> 00:39:30,324
Not this kid.

961
00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:31,325
♪♪

962
00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:33,980
I was sent away
when I was 9.

963
00:39:34,023 --> 00:39:37,810
She wanted me gone,
so...I was gone.

964
00:39:37,853 --> 00:39:39,115
♪♪

965
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:41,683
I guess she wanted
to just be alone.

966
00:39:41,727 --> 00:39:43,119
♪♪

967
00:39:43,163 --> 00:39:45,557
She wanted
my father gone, too.

968
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,428
She did?

969
00:39:47,472 --> 00:39:48,560
Why?

970
00:39:48,603 --> 00:39:52,085
♪♪

971
00:39:52,128 --> 00:39:54,696
Get out! Get out![ Porcelain shatters ]

972
00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:56,437
Get out now!

973
00:39:56,481 --> 00:40:01,442
She was so angry
when we did fun stuff together,

974
00:40:01,486 --> 00:40:03,966
just he and I.
[ Breathes sharply ]

975
00:40:04,010 --> 00:40:06,795
And this one night,
she just lost it.

976
00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:09,537
Oof.
She was raging at him.

977
00:40:09,581 --> 00:40:10,799
♪♪

978
00:40:10,843 --> 00:40:13,323
"Get out! Get out!"Get out! Get out!

979
00:40:13,367 --> 00:40:18,807
♪♪

980
00:40:18,851 --> 00:40:20,679
Come on, Reesey.
You're coming with me.

981
00:40:20,722 --> 00:40:24,160
And I just remember
my daddy swooped me up,

982
00:40:24,204 --> 00:40:27,250
took me out of there,
past bedtime.

983
00:40:27,294 --> 00:40:29,818
♪♪

984
00:40:29,862 --> 00:40:31,864
What were you doing
that night?

985
00:40:31,907 --> 00:40:34,475
♪♪

986
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:36,651
We got Coke floats.

987
00:40:36,695 --> 00:40:41,134
♪♪

988
00:40:41,177 --> 00:40:43,223
Did work stuff.

989
00:40:43,266 --> 00:40:45,834
And I just remember
I felt so...

990
00:40:45,878 --> 00:40:47,270
♪♪

991
00:40:47,314 --> 00:40:49,490
I felt safe.

992
00:40:49,534 --> 00:40:56,192
♪♪

993
00:40:56,236 --> 00:40:58,760
Best night of my life.

994
00:40:58,804 --> 00:41:05,854
♪♪

995
00:41:05,898 --> 00:41:07,029
What?

996
00:41:07,073 --> 00:41:12,687
♪♪

997
00:41:12,731 --> 00:41:14,646
[ Indistinct conversation ]

998
00:41:14,689 --> 00:41:18,258
♪♪

999
00:41:18,301 --> 00:41:21,609
I just -- I just --
I remember --

1000
00:41:21,653 --> 00:41:25,831
♪♪

1001
00:41:25,874 --> 00:41:28,529
I remember men.

1002
00:41:28,573 --> 00:41:34,492
♪♪

1003
00:41:34,535 --> 00:41:38,060
These men
under a streetlight.

1004
00:41:38,104 --> 00:41:40,498
I couldn't
see their faces.

1005
00:41:40,541 --> 00:41:41,455
♪♪

1006
00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:44,414
I couldn't see
who they were.

1007
00:41:44,458 --> 00:41:46,242
♪♪

1008
00:41:46,286 --> 00:41:49,376
So, more than just
Coke floats.

1009
00:41:49,419 --> 00:41:51,073
♪♪

1010
00:41:51,117 --> 00:41:53,162
Angry mother.

1011
00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:56,644
A father taking you away
from the house.

1012
00:41:56,688 --> 00:41:57,993
Clarice, are you sure

1013
00:41:58,037 --> 00:42:00,169
that this story you've been
telling yourself

1014
00:42:00,213 --> 00:42:02,868
is the whole story?

1015
00:42:02,911 --> 00:42:04,913
♪♪