-So, tonight, Aaron did his best to take Pamela Milton
on the grand tour of Alexandria, Oceanside, and Hilltop,
while Lance Hornsby continued to be super shady.
Eugene's broken heart
looks like it might be on the way to mending,
largely due to him getting to know
the real Stephanie, aka Max.
And Carol succeeded in getting Ezekiel
the medical help he so desperately needed.
So, what will Ezekiel do with this new lease on life?
And how will Maggie's decision to not join the Commonwealth
affect the group moving forward?
How will Aaron react if he learns Hornsby is lying to him?
And what exactly is Hornsby up to now?
That is always the question we're asking.
On tonight's show, we have interviews with the cast,
another throwback clip to one of our favorite moments
in "Talking Dead" history that you're not gonna want to miss,
plus an exclusive sneak peek
of next week's all-new episode of "The Walking Dead."
My guests are actress and super "Walking Dead" fan
Deborah Joy Winans;
King Ezekiel himself, Khary Payton;
and Ross Marquand, aka Aaron.
I am Chris Hardwick, and this is "Talking Dead."
♪
Welcome! Welcome to "Talking Dead."
Our conversation's just beginning.
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Please say hello to my guests, Deborah Joy Winans,
and joining us via satellite, Khary Payton and Ross Marquand.
Alright, welcome. It's so nice to see everyone.
It's nice to see you both there in Atlanta.
So, Khary, when Ezekiel first learned that he had cancer,
did you know what his fate would be?
-I did not. I didn't.
I -- honestly, it was kind of up in the air
at the end of season 10,
and around the beginning of season 11,
you know, I talked to Angela, and I said, "You know what?
Just don't have him die like a punk, you know, for God's sake.
Please just let him have some humanity."
And she wouldn't say exactly what his fate was,
but she said that he wasn't going to die of cancer,
that he was going to get help at Commonwealth.
So that was nice to know.
But another one of those roller coasters that I've been on.
Ever since Ezekiel didn't get his head cut off
and stuck on a pike, I've just been kind of, you know, just,
"So, how we doing, guys? You know, any word out there?"
This is how I live my life.
Just, you know, from one day to another,
still not knowing, you know?
-There is kind of a very stoic philosophy
behind being an actor on "The Walking Dead,"
where every script it's like, "What -- this week?
Okay, I think I'm okay. I think I'm okay.
We got to see what happens next week. Who knows?"
-Yeah, it's not like a regular show
where if you're a regular on the show --
if the show's over, that's one thing, but it's still --
you know, every episode you're just not quite sure.
They give you a little bit more to think about
because it's the final season, but still you don't --
you really don't know.
-Yeah, it's like, in the '90s, if you were on "Friends"
it's not like Lisa Kudrow's showing up, going,
"I wonder if Phoebe's gonna make it."
Like, she's fine. -[Laughs]
-Phoebe's gonna be fine. -Exactly. Exactly.
Chandler's gonna be there at the finale.
-Yeah, they're all gonna be there,
always stuck in second gear.
Ross, what does it say about Aaron
that he is not at all afraid to put Hornsby in his place?
-I think it's very funny that Hornsby has this line of saying,
you know, "We're concerned about Alexandria," and this and this.
At the end of the day, however he wants to pitch it,
the only person that really cares about Alexandria
in this scenario is Aaron,
and he's been the most consistent leader in Alexandria
since season five.
And I just think he finds it laughable
that Hornsby is so disingenuous about his "deep concern"
for Alexandria and its people, you know?
It's kind of funny.
-There was a scene that was cut
where Aaron called him "Horny."
He was like, "Shut up, Horny."
And I wish they'd have kept it.
It would have been a great flavor for the --
you know, but I'm not in charge.
-I keep calling him Lance Hornsby and the Range.
Like, I cannot stop calling him that
because I'm a Gen X kid. -Just the way it is.
Yeah, and that's just the way it is.
Some things will never change. -[Laughs]
Deborah Joy, what was the reaction for you
for Aaron getting all spicy with Hornsby on the way to Hilltop?
-Oh, God, I loved it.
Aaron, he's become such a leader, such a strong leader,
and he did not take lightly
that Hornsby was acting like he actually cared,
like he was really doing something
out of the goodness of his heart.
Aaron was like, "Bro, please. Let me check you real quick.
Out of this scenario, I love Alexandria, not you.
You're not getting over on me."
And that's what Hornsby needs to know.
Like, "You're not getting over on these people.
And you probably need to get smacked while you're at it."
But that's another conversation.
But I liked you, Aaron. I liked your spiciness.
It was fabulous. -Thank you.
-Yes, because they've been through --
it was like years and years and years of people showing up
like, "Hey, I'm here to help," and like,
"Ah, well, now we got to fight these people."
-Absolutely. -They are out of trust.
Literally there's just no more trust.
-There is no trust to be had.
And I think we've learned literally every season
the ruthlessness that has to happen
to continue to keep living, keep moving forward.
Like, you have to get more and more ruthless
and really be loyal to your people.
-Yeah, and also manage to somehow maintain
the balance and the moderation
so that you don't go down that steep slide into becoming --
-Like, don't be Shane.
Don't, like, totally lose your mind.
But you also have to let people know
"You're not walking up in here and you're not about to fool us.
Like, we got you." -That's right.
-They forget that Aaron's got that spike ball.
You know, when he's wearing that regular hand,
they're like, "Oh, it's just a regular hand."
And he's like, "Excuse me, somebody get my spike ball,
you know, remind you what I'm doing here."
[Laughter]
-Aaron can take you out.
-Khary, what does it mean to Ezekiel
that Carol had to work with Hornsby in order to help him?
He seems to be upset about that initially.
-You know, Ezekiel wants to help people.
He doesn't want to feel like he's getting special treatment.
Even as his role as king of the kingdom, you know,
he always felt like he kind of wanted to be
a man of the people, the way that I --
and especially coming into the Commonwealth, you know,
I think he was excited that his people had a place
that was safe and he could just sit back into
that kind of zookeeper, "I'm gonna make the kids smile"
kind of role.
He just didn't want to have
the responsibility or the privilege
of that kind of, you know, lead role.
And I think he really thinks about the idea that,
if he's stepping up in the line,
that means that somebody has to step back,
and I think he feels a lot of guilt
as far as that's concerned, you know?
-Which is understandable, but I think Carol
also makes a great point and says,
you know, that he deserves, like --
basically she's saying, "You're a good person.
The world needs you.
Don't underestimate yourself as an asset,"
is kind of what the subtext is,
"and the world is better off with you in it
because you're gonna help people," you know?
-I mean, Ezekiel's a good guy, you know,
and he's always gonna think of other people first.
But you're exactly right.
I mean, you know, at the end of the day,
he's gonna take what's given to him and try to give back.
Like, from the very beginning he was like,
"You take from the well, but you replenish the well."
And I think he doesn't just say that,
I think he really takes it to heart.
-Ross, what do you think Aaron is thinking when Lance says
[Laughing] in that kind of diabolical, sociopathic tone,
"We're going to remake the world!"
What is Aaron like -- "Sorry, bro, you're having a moment.
I'll be back."
-I mean, the way Josh Hamilton delivered that line was so eerie
and so beautiful because, I mean, Josh -- you know Josh.
I mean, he's actually a sweetheart of a guy, so...
He's an extremely kind individual.
So, in between setups -- and it was the first time
I really got a chance to work with him, you know?
So to see him in between setups, you know,
being very affable and very charming
and then turning on this absolute full-bore
psycho-eye look,
it was like, "Oh. Okay. That was a little freaky."
Yeah, it's highly unsettling
to see him deliver this grandiose line.
And I think, for Aaron, he's heard lines like that
from other leaders like Negan,
like the Governor and other people.
He's dealt with people who have promised the moon and the stars
and then offered subjugation instead.
So he's immediately a little bit put off by those words, I think.
-I'm put off by the tie, you know?
[Laughter] Just Hornsby's tie.
It just creeps me out, man.
He's just too well dressed. -Used-car salesman.
-I love the way they helmet his hair.
-Right? -It's just, like, the part.
It's so, like, you know?
It's so, like, car salesman gone mad,
kind of, and that's kind of his vibe.
But coming up, we have interviews with the cast
plus an exclusive sneak peek
of next week's episode of "The Walking Dead."
But first, before you swipe left on the Commonwealth,
let's slow things down and say a final farewell
to all those we've lost tonight.
♪
[Gunshot]
♪
-I think the first thing that Maggie thinks
about Pamela and Lance Hornsby is,
"How the hell are they so clean?
And how can you trust anyone that's so clean?"
I think Maggie is reticent to be excited
by the plan that Hornsby presents,
just because it's hard to hope in this world.
I think he really does get to her heart
and her sentimental side when he talks about the future
that's possible for the kids,
and Maggie never really affords herself the opportunity to dream
and to fantasize in those ways that Hornsby presents.
It's seeming too good to be true,
and what does it cost you?
-Welcome back to "Talking Dead."
That was Lauren Cohan on Maggie's distrust
of the Commonwealth and their vision for the future.
We're back with Deborah Joy, Khary, and Ross.
And she's right -- It's hard to trust them
because they're so put together.
Again, I just can't stop thinking about Hornsby's hair.
And you really have to use like a round brush and a blow-dryer
to achieve that effect.
Just picturing him in the mirror going,
"Yeah, the Commonwealth is yours.
You're gonna own it all." You know that's happening.
I think. I think. -Absolutely.
-What is your reaction to Pamela just having that moment
where she's dipping her perfectly pedicured toes
in the ocean?
-I was like, first of all, who's doing pedicures?
-Right. -How are you getting this?
Where are you getting the polish,
and why is it so well done?
Like, who are y'all? I didn't trust her at all.
The moment I saw those toes, I said, "Nah, mnh-mnh."
Something's not right because why do you have so much
and a lot of your people have so little?
There's something that's not right there.
I don't trust her.
-And Maggie calls her out on that.
-Absolutely.
-Ross, why did Aaron decide to wear his old recruiter khakis
and even, like, tucked in his shirt to be all presentational
for Pamela's visit?
-So, Vera Chow, our costume designer,
did a fantastic job of introducing that lineup to me.
And I'm in that outfit for a while, and I was just like,
"Man, this is like season-five Aaron all over again."
'Cause, like, I'd always push
for a little bit more of a badass Aaron,
but I know that that's not who Aaron is initially,
but as time has gone on I think he's definitely
gotten more gruff, and I love that transformation.
So to put that plaid shirt back on and tuck it into the khakis,
I was like, "Oh, man, this feels wrong."
-He's going full Bob Vila again, you know?
-I did look like Bob Vila. -Absolutely, dude.
Looked like you were just heading to the Home Depot
to get some plywood.
-Totally looked like Bob Vila.
-[Laughs] -Yeah.
-"'This Old House'. Let's do some demo today."
Crash, crash. -Exactly.
-Guzh, guzh! -Yeah.
Khary, now that Ezekiel's getting this surgery,
do you think this is gonna affect his feelings
about the Commonwealth and Pamela or even Hornsby?
Like, how is this gonna affect his view of that society?
-Well, I think this is definitely affecting him
because, you know, he was just saying goodbye to everybody.
He was giving away his precious possessions.
You know, he gave the chain to -- to "Cooper's kid" --
to Jerry's son.
And, you know, Henry's box, he was giving it to Carol.
He really was kind of trying to divest himself
of the things of this world and was saying goodbye.
I think that he has to rethink
what in the world he's gonna do with himself.
He was ready to let go,
and, you know, he's really been thrown a curve ball
as far as, you know, what does this mean
that he gets a life back, you know?
And I think, when he was kind of staring off into oblivion,
he really didn't know what was next, so, you know,
so he's got a lot of hard thinking to do
about what it means to be in the Commonwealth
and to have a new lease on life.
-This is from Facebook.
Vanessa M. on Facebook wants to know,
"Ross, how would you compare
Pamela Milton and Deanna as leaders?"
-I think they're both very polished, of course.
I mean, obviously they knew each other
from before the world fell.
They have that sort of politician --
um, what's the best way to -- sheen, I guess, to them.
They're very well put together, they're very eloquent,
and they're very, at least at first, seemingly disingenuous
because that's what politicians are.
But I think Deanna differs a little bit from Pamela
in the sense that I think Deanna really cares a lot about --
or cared a lot about
her Commonwealth and her constituents,
whereas Pamela, we're not quite so sure
about what her real motivations are just yet.
-Yeah.
-Deborah Joy, how do you think Mercer felt
when he found out that Daryl was a leader at Alexandria?
There was a little moment there.
-There was, and I think it was a moment of respect.
You know, I think that he understood Daryl could fight,
Daryl could hold his own,
but when he saw the people respected him
and that he was actually a leader,
more so just like Mercer is,
I think he just had a newfound respect for him.
And I think that also Mercer realizes he's gonna have to --
he's gonna have to make some friends
because I think he knows there's some --
it's some foolishness underneath,
and he's got to make some friends
to sort of have another way out.
-Well, Mercer even says, like, "We're all playing a role."
-Oh, yeah, absolutely. And everybody's always watching.
-Right, right.
So it seems like that was loaded with some, like,
"Oh, my God, I got to read between the lines of that.
What's he saying? Is he like..."
-I read a lot between the lines.
I was like, oh, everybody's got to get it together.
Everybody's watching, nobody's good,
and Mercer is going to have to find a way of escape
for him and his sister.
And he needs some friends on the outside.
-Yeah, and that felt like the first line
that he's kind of testing to say, like,
"Hey, just so you know, you know, maybe later on..."
-Yeah. I think they're gonna be homeys.
I like it. -I think so.
And I also like the way that Daryl kind of, I mean,
I think a good leader is someone who, like,
doesn't rush to being -- and Daryl's like,
"Well, we all kind of -- we all, you know,
like, we all have a part to play here."
Khary, what was your reaction to Dianne the archer
just saying,
"Hey, Maggie, I love you, but I can't be here anymore"?
-Oh, man, you know what?
I've been lobbying to get my archer back,
Dianne back, for years, you know?
It's like literally the kingdom has been decimated.
I can't lose anybody else, you know what I mean?
And she went running off into the woods with Maggie,
and I hadn't heard from her since.
And it was just great
to see them kind of spotlight Kerry Cahill,
who has been with the show as long as I have.
We were all -- there was just
that kind of a handful of us that were hiding in Atlanta
when we couldn't tell anybody that we were on the show
or we were doing anything.
And she's such an amazing actress.
She got those piercing eyes, that incredible intensity,
and she she does this amazing stuff all the time
in these places you don't expect.
If you get a chance, watch, like, the DVD of "Logan,"
you know, the Wolverine movie.
She's got this deleted scene where she plays a cop
pulling them over, and it is so awesome.
And I'm just putting a little plug in there for my girl
because she does this where she just pops in
and kicks ass and pops out.
But we got so many amazing people on this show.
Kerry's just one of them.
-Well, and again, it's easy to understand
why at this point she would be like,
"Yeah, we need help." -Absolutely.
"Maggie, you got to ask for help."
And so -- but again, you know, like, you would understand
why Maggie doesn't trust anyone,
and she's like, "Everything costs something."
Coming up, we have more interviews with the cast,
and later we have an exclusive sneak peek
of next week's episode of "The Walking Dead."
But first, here's Josh McDermitt on the moment
Eugene realizes that he can trust Max.
Please enjoy.
-When Max and Eugene are talking about the novel
and they're on the same page
and they're talking about, "Well, did you do this?"
And, "Of course I did, and it was the best,"
It's more confirmation for Eugene that he is in fact
the person he was talking to on the radio.
And it's nice because I think he was still taking a risk
going back to her and admitting,
"Hey, I'm sorry for running away that night
and for basically ditching you,
and you were in the middle of telling me what was going on,
and I was basically ignoring you
because I had my own crap going on."
So to come together
after what seemed like her rejecting him,
and we start to see, you know, the spark
of what made that relationship special on the radio for them
in the first place.
♪
-Being a big secret of the show is such an honor
because there's so many little Easter eggs and secrets
to be had on this show.
When I first joined the show,
I was listed as Stephanie, my character was Stephanie,
so even the reveal was a reveal to me.
And that was really fun to learn about Max
and learn about her backstory.
I've been nervous to talk about my character
or anything associated since
because I just didn't want to be the one
that would screw everything up.
Eugene's reaction when she finally came clean
about who she was,
it must be really painful to realize who somebody is
when you've been lying to them for so long,
especially when they really trusted you,
and in a world and time
that it's really hard to trust somebody.
I can only imagine his journey that it took to get to her,
and then she really wasn't honest the whole time.
So it is heartbreaking,
but she was willing to put herself out there.
She was willing to put it all on the line
because she really does care about this man
and maybe, possibly love him.
♪
Welcome back to "Talking Dead."
That was Margot Bingham on the feelings Max has for Eugene.
We're back with Deborah Joy, Khary, and Ross.
So, Ross, if Aaron knew what happened to Eugene,
would that affect him working with Hornsby?
-Oh, if I knew about the mistreatment
that Eugene had suffered?
-Yes. -Oh, yeah. I think...
I mean, the hoops that all four of those characters
have had to go through.
You know, Yumiko, Princess, King Ezekiel, and Eugene,
it's just -- it's absurd, you know?
And I understand a certain level of, you know,
vetting that needs to happen for new people,
but they just seem to punish Eugene unnecessarily so
and really kind of run him through an emotional wringer.
And I think if he had known that, new community or no,
I think Aaron never would have worked with Hornsby.
-So Deborah Joy, last week on the show
we were lamenting that he burned his manuscript,
which just killed me.
It was like, "Oh!"
And I thought he was going to say he had another copy.
I felt so much better when he was like,
"But I remember all of it." Of course he does.
Did you have a reaction to that scene
where Max and Eugene are discussing the novel
and connecting on all the points?
-I mean, I thought it was beautiful.
I thought that, look, Eugene was going down a bad path.
He needed some source of hope.
And so when he came to her,
I just thought, "How wonderful it is to know
that what you did feel was actually real.
She was actually real.
And you went through a lot of things,
but, look, the connection is still there."
And so they got all that little nerd talk going,
I said, "Okay, this is really cute."
They're kind of meant for each other.
-They're meant for each other, yeah, they're supposed --
"Did you put this in?" "Of course I did."
You know, that whole thing. -I loved it.
Khary, what did you think of Eugene's apology
at the end to Max?
It's so vulnerable and sweet? Did you have that reaction?
-Yeah, you know, it's --
the cool thing about Eugene
and the cool thing about Josh playing Eugene
is that you took this guy who started it off
as kind of comedy relief.
He was -- He was something that was weird and peculiar
that you could always find something to laugh about.
And the layers of the onion that is Eugene
and the layers that Josh is able to play
are just incredible.
To be able to see Eugene go from this guy
who really can't have that deep of a relationship
to learning to be able to see people
as multilayered human beings
and be able to find that kind of apology within himself,
you know, over the course of this time,
I think it's just been incredible.
-Well, yeah, because when we first saw him,
he was lying about who he was and what his experience was,
you know, cut to he, like, you know,
helped save everyone against the Saviors,
and then now he's having...
-He was using everyone for his own good.
You know, from the very beginning.
He was just like, "How can I survive?"
And now to -- I think really the women in his life,
Rosita and now Margot,
have really been able to pull out of him a humanity
that thinks of others before himself.
-Ross, since we first met Aaron,
you know, Aaron has also been through a lot.
He's been through a lot of changes.
He's -- so much has happened in his life,
and he's grown so much as a character.
How does that affect his mindset now?
-How does all of the things
that's happened to him affected him?
Yeah, I think, you know, the first defining instance,
of course, was losing Glenn and Abraham in the lineup,
then losing Eric, of course, then losing Jesus.
I think he's just keenly aware
of how fragile all of these communities are
and their strange, you know, ruthless fights
with all these crazy,
you know, threats throughout the years.
And I think the diplomacy that he used to rely on first
has now taken a back seat.
And now he's more of a more proactive leader.
He's more of a, like,
"We'll give someone a chance, but only one chance.
And if if they can't honor diplomacy,
then we'll just take them out,"
not unlike what we saw from from Shane and Rick back in the day.
You know, it's like they used to be,
you know, like, "Well, let's just reason with people."
Now it's like, "No, we don't have time for that."
So I think it's kind of cool to see how, given enough time,
even the nice diplomatic people will eventually be like,
"No, we're just gonna fight you." Yeah.
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and the sneak peek from next week's episode.
We'll be right back.
♪
-Have you guys not seen Ross online on YouTube
doing amazing impressions?
He is a master!
So a couple of people have made requests.
AlexVanDyckEminem says,
"Michael Caine fighting a horde of walkers."
-[Imitating Michael Caine] Now, I don't -- I don't really know
how he would handle it.
I'll have to imagine.
Master Wayne, he'd bring out the Batmobile.
What was it, the Bat limo? What was it?
-Lamborghini. -The Lamborghini.
-Alright, perfect.
Daniel R. from talkingdead.com.
"Jason Statham arguing with walkers."
-[Imitating Jason Statham] Alright, calm down, calm down.
You all need to go the other way.
'Cause, no, I'm not having it.
This is from Delaware, Kip. "Pacino as Rick."
-[Imitating Al Pacino] Okay, here's what we're gonna do.
You guys.
Over there, Alexandria is here. Hilltop over there.
There's going to be separation. Yeah. Love it. Good.
-Perfect.
[ Cheers and applause ]
Welcome back to "Talking Dead."
That was one of our favorite "Talking Dead" throwbacks,
from season six back in 2016.
We're back with Deborah Joy and Khary and Ross.
This is from Megan "Peesitin"...
Megan "Peesitin" on Twitter.
I'm sorry if I didn't say that right. Darn it.
"Ross, if you could go back to your first day on set
and leave yourself a note, what would it say?"
-Ooh.
-Don't sweat so much, probably. -[Laughs]
I remember the first day, on the plane ride over,
I was sweating.
I had to change my shirt three times
because I was sweating so much.
And luckily, I found --
the first person I met was Andrew Lincoln,
and I found out that he was a big sweater too
so I didn't feel quite so bad.
I was like, "Oh, great, we both have hyperhidrosis.
Lovely."
But I think, A, don't sweat so much physically,
but also, B, don't sweat so much mentally,
because I was a big fan of the show before I got on it,
and I was so worried about coming onto a show
and, you know, being the one
to mess it up or something, you know?
And I think you just have to realize
that most of the people on our show
got their start on our show or somewhere,
and everyone's just doing their best.
And you just have to realize that
and not get so tripped out
about being amongst all these people
that were, you know,
your favorite characters and everything.
You just have to enjoy it, you know, so...
-Beautiful answer.
Deborah Joy, what did you think of Oceanside rejecting --
also rejecting the Commonwealth's deal?
Contingent upon Hilltop, of course.
-Absolutely.
I think that it shows that they are still a family.
It shows loyalty.
And it shows that they trust Maggie.
If there's anybody I am going to trust --
If Maggie says no, I'm going with Maggie.
And so I think that -- I think they're going to be good,
but I thought it was a solid answer.
I thought that it was the right thing to do.
-Yeah.
This is from DanceAJ22 on Twitter.
"Khary, is Ezekiel happy
working with animals again at the Commonwealth
or is it kind of surreal?
-Yeah, no, he's absolutely happy working with animals.
I think -- I think --
in fact, him going with Eugene and Yumiko
and Princess, eventually, to Commonwealth
was he was looking for a new role, you know,
to not necessarily be, you know,
King Ezekiel anymore.
And he was kind of doing Aaron's thing, you know,
which is scouting and looking for,
you know, some common ground someplace.
And, you know, when he got the little letter that said,
you know, he's going to be a zookeeper --
he's not even a zookeeper, he's just the petting zoo guy.
You know, so, literally, he's there just to, like,
hold fuzzy animals and make kids laugh, you know?
And I think, you know, Ezekiel you could use a break
from all of the craziness and just be like,
"You know what? Can I make a kid laugh, you know?
All I have to do is worry about, is, you know,
a bunny peeing on me every once in a while."
Which did happen.
-Oh, that happened when you guys were filming?
-[Laughing] Yes. -Fantastic.
I think it's probably better than a full tiger peeing on you,
would be my guess.
-I have not.
I have not had to deal with that, so thank you.
-So that expands the question into like, you know,
Shiva was such an amazing companion.
Could there ever be another animal companion?
And if so, what would Ezekiel choose?
-I've always said I wanted an elephant
in the apocalypse. -You went bigger.
I thought it was gonna be -- you went way bigger.
-Oh, no. Oh, no.
I need something with a thick skin
that I can climb on top of and stay away from --
plus, I mean, elephants are my favorite animals.
They're so -- they take care of each other.
I saw a documentary years ago
and I've always loved elephants --
but thick skin, I can hop on top, they can just --
you know, give me Dumbo.
Give me Dumbo. -Well, Dumbo can fly.
Of course, you would want a flying elephant
in the apocalypse.
Why wouldn't you want a flying elephant in the apocalypse?
-Hey. -Yeah?
-No, no, I was just going to say,
if I could find an elephant,
then I'd have seen about everything
if I could see an elephant in the apocalypse.
-You know, it's a weird apocalypse.
Anything could happen at this point.
Maybe that's what we're going to see sometime
before the end of the series is, surprise,
here comes Ezekiel on a flying elephant
to swoop down and save everyone,
and you heard it here first on "Talking Dead."
-I don't ask for much.
-Angela Kang is gonna be like,
"Why are people all of a sudden asking me
if there's a flying elephant coming onto the show?"
Well, because we talked about it on "Talking Dead."
Who knows what the future could bring?
Coming up, we have a fan
who's going to join us to ask a question,
and we have that exclusive sneak peek
of next week's episode.
We'll be right back.
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-Welcome back to "Talking Dead."
I want to remind everyone that if you want to ask a question
during "Talking Dead," please send a video
to fansubmission@talkingdead.tv
and share how "The Walking Dead" has impacted you or your life
for a chance to join us.
And now it is my pleasure to introduce
this week's featured fan.
Please welcome Georgie from Tampa, Florida.
Welcome!
Thank you so much for being here. Thank you.
Who is your question for?
-My question is for Ross and Khary.
So Lance tells Maggie about his lucky coin.
Is there anything that brings your characters good luck?
-Good question. -You want to go first?
-No. -Not yet? You know what?
I have a railroad spike
that's been fashioned into a little knife
that Ezekiel used to wear right here on his chest.
And I always thought of that
as kind of his last line of defense.
I called it Private Ryan.
You know, I name all my weapons,
You know, I got -- I got Sgt. Slaughter.
I got, you know, Captain Jack Sparrow.
And little Private Ryan right here.
Shock to the eye.
So that's his little -- his little, you know,
"get out of jail free" card.
-Ross, do you have one?
-I think the mace is his lucky -- yeah.
-That would be pretty lucky in an apocalypse
just to have a mace on standby at all times.
Georgie, thank you so much.
And before you go, I want to show you this.
This is -- This is a two-piece set.
It is a sweatshirt and the pants
with the Commonwealth emblem on them right there.
You can pick these up for yourself at TWDUShop.com.
Oh, here's the thing right there.
And for asking such a great question, Georgie,
you're gonna get these.
We're gonna send these to you.
So thank you so much for being here.
Thank you so much for being here.
But this one's here with me,
so I'll probably take that one home.
And we'll send you --
-I want to see you in that courtside
at an NBA basketball game.
That's what that looks like. I want to see it.
-[Laughs] You know what?
I will do it. I will put it on.
And before the end of our show, at some point in the future,
I'll wear the -- unless we don't like the Commonwealth.
Then it'd be weird. -No, we don't. We don't. No.
-So we've got to make the Alexandria sweat suit,
is what we need. -Absolutely.
-Do you think that seeing Daryl in formation with the troopers
affects Maggie's decision at all?
Because she kind of looks a little suspicious of it.
-Maggie is brilliant. She is always watching.
She's always suspicious.
And she knows Daryl.
So to see him fall in line is like,
"Hold on, wait a minute. What's going on here?"
She knows that they're not being completely up front.
They're not telling the whole truth.
There's a lot of deceit underneath.
So to see that and then to see Pam
and Hornsby talking, she's like, "Mnh-mnh. No."
Because some things --
"It's already costing Daryl something." -Right.
"So, what is it gonna cost my people?
I have a whole place to run."
-True, but he does say to her --
She's like, "You trust these people?"
Basically, he says, like,
"Well, you know me. I never trust anyone."
I feel like that's what she can trust
is that he never never trusts anyone.
-She can trust that,
but then to see it is like, "What's going on?"
-Something going on.
JackChapman269 on Instagram says,
"Ross, any noteworthy blooper moments from this episode?"
-I remember when Lance and I were --
or Josh and I were going in the caravan
to, I think, Oceanside.
Or maybe it was Hilltop.
And we had this very intense scene
that we were about to do.
And then these horses -- lovely horses --
but, you know, sometimes they got to go.
-Drop it like it's hot. -Yeah, drop it like it's hot.
It was just right before a big, super important,
very serious take,
and we just lost it, and we were like,
"I can't remember my lines now. I have to get off this truck.
I'm in so much pain right now."
-Was it number one or number two?
-I'm gonna let you decide.
-I will say a number one is actually --
when horses go number one, that's actually an angry pee,
and it scares me much more than number two, personally.
-Number two, like, horses, just so lazily drop it,
like, "Oh, well."
And you want an elephant, Khary. You want an elephant.
Dropping it from that height.
-And it is hot. It's hot. It's actually hot.
-Stop them for like five hours at a time
while they clean it up.
Or that's also part of the deterrent.
Like, "We're not gonna fight that guy
'cause that's a big dumping machine there," and nobody --
Even the walkers are like,
"We'll take -- we'll go this other way.
We're gonna take this other road."
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Welcome back to "Talking Dead."
It is now time for our exclusive sneak peek
of next week's new episode.
Check it out.
[Herd growling]
[Weapons slashing]
-The knife slashed right through the neck guard.
Shot between the armor gaps.
-Hey!
Hey!
-It's Aaron.
-Oh! -What is happening, Deborah Joy?
-Oh! I don't know.
Aaron, why you in them streets like that?
What is going on?
-I mean, obviously, someone has taken them out.
Someone's taken out the Commonwealth troopers.
-Who? And why? -I don't know.
I mean, I think it should happen,
but, like, I need to know.
I need more. I need a little bit more.
-Ross, is there anything you can tease about this,
of course, without spoiling anything?
Unless you just feel like spoiling it.
You know, I don't mind. -No.
Uh, aliens.
I've said it before, but it's aliens.
-When in doubt, aliens. There you go.
Oh, my God.
If that turns out to be, the answer.
It's like, "Oh, my God!"
So, so far we have flying elephant and aliens.
A lot of big things coming up on "Walking Dead."
Khary, I do have one quick question for you
because I know this is a topic that does divide people --
Pineapple on pizza in real life?
Thoughts. -Oh.
Yeah, no, no pineapple for me.
-Yeah.
-Not so much that I don't like it,
but my partner in life, Tracy,
is deathly allergic to pineapple.
-Oh, well, then that's a big no. That's the hard pass.
-So, yeah, we don't even -- we don't go there.
We don't go there on -- on set.
She's the key makeup artist on "The Walking Dead."
She's actually been there longer than I have,
but she -- yeah, yeah, we don't bring it on set it.
It doesn't come anywhere. We don't do pineapple.
-Fantastic.
And then waffle cone, cake cone...?
-Waffles, waffles, waffles, baby.
Waffles, waffles, waffles all day.
-Ross?
-Give me the big waffle cone, man.
In fact, I wouldn't have been sitting there like Eugene,
not eating them.
I would have just -- boom.
Both of them would have been happening.
-Those ones that look like a turtleneck,
you know, with the little scoop inside, you know, the best.
Ross.
-It's like a New York actor with the turtleneck.
-Yeah, it's a very dramatic cone.
Oh, my God, this cone has so many feelings
it wants to tell me about, oh, my gosh.
Uh...
I want to thank everyone for watching "Talking Dead."
This has been so much fun.
My guests have been Deborah Joy Winans,
Khary Payton, and Ross Marquand.
Next week, we're gonna be joined by Father Gabriel himself
and some very special guests you won't want to miss.
Please stay safe and take care of each other out there.
I am Chris Hardwick. Good night.
See you next time.
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