1 00:00:01,310 --> 00:00:03,655 -So, tonight, Aaron did his best to take Pamela Milton 2 00:00:03,758 --> 00:00:06,827 on the grand tour of Alexandria, Oceanside, and Hilltop, 3 00:00:06,931 --> 00:00:10,241 while Lance Hornsby continued to be super shady. 4 00:00:10,344 --> 00:00:11,482 Eugene's broken heart 5 00:00:11,586 --> 00:00:13,448 looks like it might be on the way to mending, 6 00:00:13,551 --> 00:00:15,000 largely due to him getting to know 7 00:00:15,103 --> 00:00:16,206 the real Stephanie, aka Max. 8 00:00:16,309 --> 00:00:18,172 And Carol succeeded in getting Ezekiel 9 00:00:18,275 --> 00:00:20,275 the medical help he so desperately needed. 10 00:00:20,379 --> 00:00:23,655 So, what will Ezekiel do with this new lease on life? 11 00:00:23,758 --> 00:00:26,344 And how will Maggie's decision to not join the Commonwealth 12 00:00:26,448 --> 00:00:27,862 affect the group moving forward? 13 00:00:27,965 --> 00:00:30,517 How will Aaron react if he learns Hornsby is lying to him? 14 00:00:30,620 --> 00:00:33,068 And what exactly is Hornsby up to now? 15 00:00:33,172 --> 00:00:34,655 That is always the question we're asking. 16 00:00:34,758 --> 00:00:36,551 On tonight's show, we have interviews with the cast, 17 00:00:36,655 --> 00:00:38,482 another throwback clip to one of our favorite moments 18 00:00:38,586 --> 00:00:40,655 in "Talking Dead" history that you're not gonna want to miss, 19 00:00:40,758 --> 00:00:42,034 plus an exclusive sneak peek 20 00:00:42,137 --> 00:00:44,344 of next week's all-new episode of "The Walking Dead." 21 00:00:44,448 --> 00:00:46,586 My guests are actress and super "Walking Dead" fan 22 00:00:46,689 --> 00:00:47,965 Deborah Joy Winans; 23 00:00:48,068 --> 00:00:49,862 King Ezekiel himself, Khary Payton; 24 00:00:49,965 --> 00:00:52,448 and Ross Marquand, aka Aaron. 25 00:00:52,551 --> 00:00:54,931 I am Chris Hardwick, and this is "Talking Dead." 26 00:00:55,034 --> 00:01:04,448 ♪ 27 00:01:04,551 --> 00:01:06,551 Welcome! Welcome to "Talking Dead." 28 00:01:06,655 --> 00:01:08,034 Our conversation's just beginning. 29 00:01:08,137 --> 00:01:09,586 Of course we want to hear from you. 30 00:01:09,689 --> 00:01:11,241 Hit us up on Instagram @AMCTalkingDead 31 00:01:11,344 --> 00:01:12,965 or go to "Talking Dead's" Facebook page. 32 00:01:13,068 --> 00:01:15,000 Please say hello to my guests, Deborah Joy Winans, 33 00:01:15,103 --> 00:01:19,137 and joining us via satellite, Khary Payton and Ross Marquand. 34 00:01:19,241 --> 00:01:22,586 Alright, welcome. It's so nice to see everyone. 35 00:01:22,689 --> 00:01:25,758 It's nice to see you both there in Atlanta. 36 00:01:25,862 --> 00:01:31,965 So, Khary, when Ezekiel first learned that he had cancer, 37 00:01:32,068 --> 00:01:34,758 did you know what his fate would be? 38 00:01:34,862 --> 00:01:37,482 -I did not. I didn't. 39 00:01:37,586 --> 00:01:41,655 I -- honestly, it was kind of up in the air 40 00:01:41,758 --> 00:01:44,033 at the end of season 10, 41 00:01:44,137 --> 00:01:47,793 and around the beginning of season 11, 42 00:01:47,896 --> 00:01:52,172 you know, I talked to Angela, and I said, "You know what? 43 00:01:52,275 --> 00:01:57,620 Just don't have him die like a punk, you know, for God's sake. 44 00:01:57,723 --> 00:02:02,206 Please just let him have some humanity." 45 00:02:02,310 --> 00:02:05,172 And she wouldn't say exactly what his fate was, 46 00:02:05,275 --> 00:02:07,551 but she said that he wasn't going to die of cancer, 47 00:02:07,655 --> 00:02:09,655 that he was going to get help at Commonwealth. 48 00:02:09,758 --> 00:02:11,586 So that was nice to know. 49 00:02:11,689 --> 00:02:15,862 But another one of those roller coasters that I've been on. 50 00:02:15,965 --> 00:02:19,310 Ever since Ezekiel didn't get his head cut off 51 00:02:19,413 --> 00:02:23,655 and stuck on a pike, I've just been kind of, you know, just, 52 00:02:23,758 --> 00:02:27,655 "So, how we doing, guys? You know, any word out there?" 53 00:02:27,758 --> 00:02:29,034 This is how I live my life. 54 00:02:29,137 --> 00:02:31,137 Just, you know, from one day to another, 55 00:02:31,241 --> 00:02:32,586 still not knowing, you know? 56 00:02:32,689 --> 00:02:34,724 -There is kind of a very stoic philosophy 57 00:02:34,827 --> 00:02:36,965 behind being an actor on "The Walking Dead," 58 00:02:37,067 --> 00:02:39,413 where every script it's like, "What -- this week? 59 00:02:39,517 --> 00:02:41,517 Okay, I think I'm okay. I think I'm okay. 60 00:02:41,620 --> 00:02:43,965 We got to see what happens next week. Who knows?" 61 00:02:44,067 --> 00:02:46,172 -Yeah, it's not like a regular show 62 00:02:46,275 --> 00:02:48,655 where if you're a regular on the show -- 63 00:02:48,758 --> 00:02:51,896 if the show's over, that's one thing, but it's still -- 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,896 you know, every episode you're just not quite sure. 65 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,655 They give you a little bit more to think about 66 00:02:57,758 --> 00:03:00,793 because it's the final season, but still you don't -- 67 00:03:00,896 --> 00:03:02,172 you really don't know. 68 00:03:02,275 --> 00:03:04,448 -Yeah, it's like, in the '90s, if you were on "Friends" 69 00:03:04,551 --> 00:03:06,413 it's not like Lisa Kudrow's showing up, going, 70 00:03:06,517 --> 00:03:08,034 "I wonder if Phoebe's gonna make it." 71 00:03:08,137 --> 00:03:09,310 Like, she's fine. -[Laughs] 72 00:03:09,413 --> 00:03:11,482 -Phoebe's gonna be fine. -Exactly. Exactly. 73 00:03:11,586 --> 00:03:14,344 Chandler's gonna be there at the finale. 74 00:03:14,448 --> 00:03:16,379 -Yeah, they're all gonna be there, 75 00:03:16,482 --> 00:03:18,793 always stuck in second gear. 76 00:03:18,896 --> 00:03:21,655 Ross, what does it say about Aaron 77 00:03:21,758 --> 00:03:26,000 that he is not at all afraid to put Hornsby in his place? 78 00:03:26,103 --> 00:03:30,034 -I think it's very funny that Hornsby has this line of saying, 79 00:03:30,137 --> 00:03:34,137 you know, "We're concerned about Alexandria," and this and this. 80 00:03:34,241 --> 00:03:37,896 At the end of the day, however he wants to pitch it, 81 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,517 the only person that really cares about Alexandria 82 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:41,896 in this scenario is Aaron, 83 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,551 and he's been the most consistent leader in Alexandria 84 00:03:45,655 --> 00:03:47,482 since season five. 85 00:03:47,586 --> 00:03:50,551 And I just think he finds it laughable 86 00:03:50,655 --> 00:03:56,000 that Hornsby is so disingenuous about his "deep concern" 87 00:03:56,103 --> 00:03:57,689 for Alexandria and its people, you know? 88 00:03:57,793 --> 00:03:58,827 It's kind of funny. 89 00:03:58,930 --> 00:04:00,827 -There was a scene that was cut 90 00:04:00,931 --> 00:04:02,793 where Aaron called him "Horny." 91 00:04:02,896 --> 00:04:05,103 He was like, "Shut up, Horny." 92 00:04:05,206 --> 00:04:06,586 And I wish they'd have kept it. 93 00:04:06,689 --> 00:04:08,689 It would have been a great flavor for the -- 94 00:04:08,793 --> 00:04:10,448 you know, but I'm not in charge. 95 00:04:10,551 --> 00:04:12,413 -I keep calling him Lance Hornsby and the Range. 96 00:04:12,517 --> 00:04:13,965 Like, I cannot stop calling him that 97 00:04:14,068 --> 00:04:15,827 because I'm a Gen X kid. -Just the way it is. 98 00:04:15,931 --> 00:04:18,103 Yeah, and that's just the way it is. 99 00:04:18,206 --> 00:04:20,067 Some things will never change. -[Laughs] 100 00:04:20,172 --> 00:04:23,172 Deborah Joy, what was the reaction for you 101 00:04:23,275 --> 00:04:27,482 for Aaron getting all spicy with Hornsby on the way to Hilltop? 102 00:04:27,586 --> 00:04:28,931 -Oh, God, I loved it. 103 00:04:29,034 --> 00:04:33,344 Aaron, he's become such a leader, such a strong leader, 104 00:04:33,448 --> 00:04:36,551 and he did not take lightly 105 00:04:36,655 --> 00:04:39,448 that Hornsby was acting like he actually cared, 106 00:04:39,551 --> 00:04:41,000 like he was really doing something 107 00:04:41,103 --> 00:04:42,551 out of the goodness of his heart. 108 00:04:42,655 --> 00:04:45,965 Aaron was like, "Bro, please. Let me check you real quick. 109 00:04:46,068 --> 00:04:49,310 Out of this scenario, I love Alexandria, not you. 110 00:04:49,413 --> 00:04:51,379 You're not getting over on me." 111 00:04:51,482 --> 00:04:53,103 And that's what Hornsby needs to know. 112 00:04:53,206 --> 00:04:55,172 Like, "You're not getting over on these people. 113 00:04:55,275 --> 00:04:57,620 And you probably need to get smacked while you're at it." 114 00:04:57,724 --> 00:04:59,000 But that's another conversation. 115 00:04:59,103 --> 00:05:03,000 But I liked you, Aaron. I liked your spiciness. 116 00:05:03,103 --> 00:05:04,689 It was fabulous. -Thank you. 117 00:05:04,793 --> 00:05:06,724 -Yes, because they've been through -- 118 00:05:06,827 --> 00:05:09,655 it was like years and years and years of people showing up 119 00:05:09,758 --> 00:05:11,827 like, "Hey, I'm here to help," and like, 120 00:05:11,931 --> 00:05:14,206 "Ah, well, now we got to fight these people." 121 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:16,172 -Absolutely. -They are out of trust. 122 00:05:16,275 --> 00:05:18,206 Literally there's just no more trust. 123 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:19,724 -There is no trust to be had. 124 00:05:19,827 --> 00:05:22,793 And I think we've learned literally every season 125 00:05:22,896 --> 00:05:25,103 the ruthlessness that has to happen 126 00:05:25,206 --> 00:05:28,379 to continue to keep living, keep moving forward. 127 00:05:28,482 --> 00:05:31,206 Like, you have to get more and more ruthless 128 00:05:31,310 --> 00:05:33,586 and really be loyal to your people. 129 00:05:33,689 --> 00:05:37,379 -Yeah, and also manage to somehow maintain 130 00:05:37,482 --> 00:05:39,103 the balance and the moderation 131 00:05:39,206 --> 00:05:42,931 so that you don't go down that steep slide into becoming -- 132 00:05:43,034 --> 00:05:44,034 -Like, don't be Shane. 133 00:05:44,137 --> 00:05:45,793 Don't, like, totally lose your mind. 134 00:05:45,896 --> 00:05:47,517 But you also have to let people know 135 00:05:47,620 --> 00:05:50,275 "You're not walking up in here and you're not about to fool us. 136 00:05:50,379 --> 00:05:51,896 Like, we got you." -That's right. 137 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,206 -They forget that Aaron's got that spike ball. 138 00:05:55,310 --> 00:05:57,379 You know, when he's wearing that regular hand, 139 00:05:57,482 --> 00:05:59,551 they're like, "Oh, it's just a regular hand." 140 00:05:59,655 --> 00:06:02,068 And he's like, "Excuse me, somebody get my spike ball, 141 00:06:02,172 --> 00:06:04,103 you know, remind you what I'm doing here." 142 00:06:04,206 --> 00:06:05,758 [Laughter] 143 00:06:05,862 --> 00:06:07,758 -Aaron can take you out. 144 00:06:07,862 --> 00:06:09,793 -Khary, what does it mean to Ezekiel 145 00:06:09,896 --> 00:06:12,758 that Carol had to work with Hornsby in order to help him? 146 00:06:12,862 --> 00:06:16,241 He seems to be upset about that initially. 147 00:06:16,344 --> 00:06:20,379 -You know, Ezekiel wants to help people. 148 00:06:20,482 --> 00:06:24,241 He doesn't want to feel like he's getting special treatment. 149 00:06:24,344 --> 00:06:29,586 Even as his role as king of the kingdom, you know, 150 00:06:29,689 --> 00:06:32,034 he always felt like he kind of wanted to be 151 00:06:32,137 --> 00:06:34,241 a man of the people, the way that I -- 152 00:06:34,344 --> 00:06:37,689 and especially coming into the Commonwealth, you know, 153 00:06:37,793 --> 00:06:41,827 I think he was excited that his people had a place 154 00:06:41,931 --> 00:06:45,000 that was safe and he could just sit back into 155 00:06:45,103 --> 00:06:47,655 that kind of zookeeper, "I'm gonna make the kids smile" 156 00:06:47,758 --> 00:06:48,689 kind of role. 157 00:06:48,793 --> 00:06:51,448 He just didn't want to have 158 00:06:51,551 --> 00:06:53,793 the responsibility or the privilege 159 00:06:53,896 --> 00:06:58,689 of that kind of, you know, lead role. 160 00:06:58,793 --> 00:07:02,620 And I think he really thinks about the idea that, 161 00:07:02,724 --> 00:07:05,068 if he's stepping up in the line, 162 00:07:05,172 --> 00:07:07,344 that means that somebody has to step back, 163 00:07:07,448 --> 00:07:09,310 and I think he feels a lot of guilt 164 00:07:09,413 --> 00:07:11,344 as far as that's concerned, you know? 165 00:07:11,448 --> 00:07:13,034 -Which is understandable, but I think Carol 166 00:07:13,137 --> 00:07:14,482 also makes a great point and says, 167 00:07:14,586 --> 00:07:17,793 you know, that he deserves, like -- 168 00:07:17,896 --> 00:07:20,241 basically she's saying, "You're a good person. 169 00:07:20,344 --> 00:07:21,517 The world needs you. 170 00:07:21,620 --> 00:07:23,655 Don't underestimate yourself as an asset," 171 00:07:23,758 --> 00:07:25,241 is kind of what the subtext is, 172 00:07:25,344 --> 00:07:27,586 "and the world is better off with you in it 173 00:07:27,689 --> 00:07:29,931 because you're gonna help people," you know? 174 00:07:30,034 --> 00:07:32,379 -I mean, Ezekiel's a good guy, you know, 175 00:07:32,482 --> 00:07:35,310 and he's always gonna think of other people first. 176 00:07:35,413 --> 00:07:36,827 But you're exactly right. 177 00:07:36,931 --> 00:07:39,896 I mean, you know, at the end of the day, 178 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,000 he's gonna take what's given to him and try to give back. 179 00:07:44,103 --> 00:07:46,206 Like, from the very beginning he was like, 180 00:07:46,310 --> 00:07:48,862 "You take from the well, but you replenish the well." 181 00:07:48,965 --> 00:07:50,827 And I think he doesn't just say that, 182 00:07:50,931 --> 00:07:52,931 I think he really takes it to heart. 183 00:07:53,034 --> 00:07:57,103 -Ross, what do you think Aaron is thinking when Lance says 184 00:07:57,206 --> 00:08:02,034 [Laughing] in that kind of diabolical, sociopathic tone, 185 00:08:02,137 --> 00:08:04,275 "We're going to remake the world!" 186 00:08:04,379 --> 00:08:07,172 What is Aaron like -- "Sorry, bro, you're having a moment. 187 00:08:07,275 --> 00:08:08,655 I'll be back." 188 00:08:08,758 --> 00:08:13,655 -I mean, the way Josh Hamilton delivered that line was so eerie 189 00:08:13,758 --> 00:08:17,344 and so beautiful because, I mean, Josh -- you know Josh. 190 00:08:17,448 --> 00:08:21,793 I mean, he's actually a sweetheart of a guy, so... 191 00:08:21,896 --> 00:08:24,275 He's an extremely kind individual. 192 00:08:24,379 --> 00:08:26,310 So, in between setups -- and it was the first time 193 00:08:26,413 --> 00:08:28,275 I really got a chance to work with him, you know? 194 00:08:28,379 --> 00:08:30,758 So to see him in between setups, you know, 195 00:08:30,862 --> 00:08:32,965 being very affable and very charming 196 00:08:33,068 --> 00:08:35,620 and then turning on this absolute full-bore 197 00:08:35,724 --> 00:08:37,448 psycho-eye look, 198 00:08:37,551 --> 00:08:40,758 it was like, "Oh. Okay. That was a little freaky." 199 00:08:40,861 --> 00:08:44,862 Yeah, it's highly unsettling 200 00:08:44,965 --> 00:08:47,724 to see him deliver this grandiose line. 201 00:08:47,827 --> 00:08:51,586 And I think, for Aaron, he's heard lines like that 202 00:08:51,689 --> 00:08:54,655 from other leaders like Negan, 203 00:08:54,758 --> 00:08:56,793 like the Governor and other people. 204 00:08:56,896 --> 00:08:59,793 He's dealt with people who have promised the moon and the stars 205 00:08:59,896 --> 00:09:02,620 and then offered subjugation instead. 206 00:09:02,724 --> 00:09:07,620 So he's immediately a little bit put off by those words, I think. 207 00:09:07,724 --> 00:09:09,655 -I'm put off by the tie, you know? 208 00:09:09,758 --> 00:09:11,482 [Laughter] Just Hornsby's tie. 209 00:09:11,586 --> 00:09:14,103 It just creeps me out, man. 210 00:09:14,206 --> 00:09:16,413 He's just too well dressed. -Used-car salesman. 211 00:09:16,517 --> 00:09:18,310 -I love the way they helmet his hair. 212 00:09:18,413 --> 00:09:19,655 -Right? -It's just, like, the part. 213 00:09:19,758 --> 00:09:21,793 It's so, like, you know? 214 00:09:21,896 --> 00:09:25,482 It's so, like, car salesman gone mad, 215 00:09:25,586 --> 00:09:27,551 kind of, and that's kind of his vibe. 216 00:09:27,655 --> 00:09:29,551 But coming up, we have interviews with the cast 217 00:09:29,655 --> 00:09:30,758 plus an exclusive sneak peek 218 00:09:30,862 --> 00:09:32,655 of next week's episode of "The Walking Dead." 219 00:09:32,758 --> 00:09:35,551 But first, before you swipe left on the Commonwealth, 220 00:09:35,655 --> 00:09:37,689 let's slow things down and say a final farewell 221 00:09:37,793 --> 00:09:40,413 to all those we've lost tonight. 222 00:09:40,517 --> 00:09:48,241 ♪ 223 00:09:48,344 --> 00:09:56,068 ♪ 224 00:09:56,172 --> 00:10:03,896 ♪ 225 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:11,724 ♪ 226 00:10:11,827 --> 00:10:13,448 [Gunshot] 227 00:10:13,551 --> 00:10:21,758 ♪ 228 00:10:21,862 --> 00:10:30,068 ♪ 229 00:10:30,172 --> 00:10:38,379 ♪ 230 00:10:38,482 --> 00:10:46,689 ♪ 231 00:10:46,793 --> 00:10:55,068 ♪ 232 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,758 ♪ 233 00:11:01,517 --> 00:11:04,275 -I think the first thing that Maggie thinks 234 00:11:04,379 --> 00:11:06,655 about Pamela and Lance Hornsby is, 235 00:11:06,758 --> 00:11:09,310 "How the hell are they so clean? 236 00:11:09,413 --> 00:11:13,206 And how can you trust anyone that's so clean?" 237 00:11:13,310 --> 00:11:16,517 I think Maggie is reticent to be excited 238 00:11:16,620 --> 00:11:19,379 by the plan that Hornsby presents, 239 00:11:19,482 --> 00:11:23,000 just because it's hard to hope in this world. 240 00:11:23,103 --> 00:11:25,137 I think he really does get to her heart 241 00:11:25,241 --> 00:11:28,000 and her sentimental side when he talks about the future 242 00:11:28,103 --> 00:11:29,551 that's possible for the kids, 243 00:11:29,655 --> 00:11:34,206 and Maggie never really affords herself the opportunity to dream 244 00:11:34,310 --> 00:11:36,931 and to fantasize in those ways that Hornsby presents. 245 00:11:37,034 --> 00:11:38,655 It's seeming too good to be true, 246 00:11:38,758 --> 00:11:40,724 and what does it cost you? 247 00:11:42,172 --> 00:11:43,448 -Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 248 00:11:43,551 --> 00:11:45,310 That was Lauren Cohan on Maggie's distrust 249 00:11:45,413 --> 00:11:47,551 of the Commonwealth and their vision for the future. 250 00:11:47,655 --> 00:11:49,413 We're back with Deborah Joy, Khary, and Ross. 251 00:11:49,517 --> 00:11:51,172 And she's right -- It's hard to trust them 252 00:11:51,275 --> 00:11:52,862 because they're so put together. 253 00:11:52,965 --> 00:11:55,448 Again, I just can't stop thinking about Hornsby's hair. 254 00:11:55,551 --> 00:11:59,620 And you really have to use like a round brush and a blow-dryer 255 00:11:59,724 --> 00:12:01,344 to achieve that effect. 256 00:12:01,448 --> 00:12:03,241 Just picturing him in the mirror going, 257 00:12:03,344 --> 00:12:04,551 "Yeah, the Commonwealth is yours. 258 00:12:04,655 --> 00:12:07,448 You're gonna own it all." You know that's happening. 259 00:12:07,551 --> 00:12:08,965 I think. I think. -Absolutely. 260 00:12:09,068 --> 00:12:13,827 -What is your reaction to Pamela just having that moment 261 00:12:13,931 --> 00:12:16,620 where she's dipping her perfectly pedicured toes 262 00:12:16,724 --> 00:12:17,931 in the ocean? 263 00:12:18,034 --> 00:12:20,827 -I was like, first of all, who's doing pedicures? 264 00:12:20,931 --> 00:12:22,379 -Right. -How are you getting this? 265 00:12:22,482 --> 00:12:24,068 Where are you getting the polish, 266 00:12:24,172 --> 00:12:26,034 and why is it so well done? 267 00:12:26,137 --> 00:12:28,379 Like, who are y'all? I didn't trust her at all. 268 00:12:28,482 --> 00:12:30,965 The moment I saw those toes, I said, "Nah, mnh-mnh." 269 00:12:31,068 --> 00:12:33,793 Something's not right because why do you have so much 270 00:12:33,896 --> 00:12:36,034 and a lot of your people have so little? 271 00:12:36,137 --> 00:12:38,344 There's something that's not right there. 272 00:12:38,448 --> 00:12:39,344 I don't trust her. 273 00:12:39,448 --> 00:12:40,655 -And Maggie calls her out on that. 274 00:12:40,758 --> 00:12:42,172 -Absolutely. 275 00:12:42,275 --> 00:12:47,551 -Ross, why did Aaron decide to wear his old recruiter khakis 276 00:12:47,655 --> 00:12:53,172 and even, like, tucked in his shirt to be all presentational 277 00:12:53,275 --> 00:12:55,137 for Pamela's visit? 278 00:12:55,241 --> 00:12:57,758 -So, Vera Chow, our costume designer, 279 00:12:57,862 --> 00:13:01,310 did a fantastic job of introducing that lineup to me. 280 00:13:01,413 --> 00:13:05,000 And I'm in that outfit for a while, and I was just like, 281 00:13:05,103 --> 00:13:08,310 "Man, this is like season-five Aaron all over again." 282 00:13:08,413 --> 00:13:09,862 'Cause, like, I'd always push 283 00:13:09,965 --> 00:13:12,034 for a little bit more of a badass Aaron, 284 00:13:12,137 --> 00:13:14,724 but I know that that's not who Aaron is initially, 285 00:13:14,827 --> 00:13:18,413 but as time has gone on I think he's definitely 286 00:13:18,517 --> 00:13:20,827 gotten more gruff, and I love that transformation. 287 00:13:20,931 --> 00:13:25,068 So to put that plaid shirt back on and tuck it into the khakis, 288 00:13:25,172 --> 00:13:27,655 I was like, "Oh, man, this feels wrong." 289 00:13:27,758 --> 00:13:29,965 -He's going full Bob Vila again, you know? 290 00:13:30,068 --> 00:13:32,413 -I did look like Bob Vila. -Absolutely, dude. 291 00:13:32,517 --> 00:13:35,103 Looked like you were just heading to the Home Depot 292 00:13:35,206 --> 00:13:36,241 to get some plywood. 293 00:13:36,344 --> 00:13:37,482 -Totally looked like Bob Vila. 294 00:13:37,586 --> 00:13:39,000 -[Laughs] -Yeah. 295 00:13:39,103 --> 00:13:41,068 -"'This Old House'. Let's do some demo today." 296 00:13:41,172 --> 00:13:42,896 Crash, crash. -Exactly. 297 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,137 -Guzh, guzh! -Yeah. 298 00:13:45,241 --> 00:13:48,965 Khary, now that Ezekiel's getting this surgery, 299 00:13:49,068 --> 00:13:51,068 do you think this is gonna affect his feelings 300 00:13:51,172 --> 00:13:53,517 about the Commonwealth and Pamela or even Hornsby? 301 00:13:53,620 --> 00:13:57,827 Like, how is this gonna affect his view of that society? 302 00:13:57,931 --> 00:14:01,827 -Well, I think this is definitely affecting him 303 00:14:01,931 --> 00:14:06,620 because, you know, he was just saying goodbye to everybody. 304 00:14:06,724 --> 00:14:10,000 He was giving away his precious possessions. 305 00:14:10,103 --> 00:14:17,275 You know, he gave the chain to -- to "Cooper's kid" -- 306 00:14:17,379 --> 00:14:19,551 to Jerry's son. 307 00:14:19,655 --> 00:14:22,241 And, you know, Henry's box, he was giving it to Carol. 308 00:14:22,344 --> 00:14:25,172 He really was kind of trying to divest himself 309 00:14:25,275 --> 00:14:28,896 of the things of this world and was saying goodbye. 310 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,931 I think that he has to rethink 311 00:14:32,034 --> 00:14:34,931 what in the world he's gonna do with himself. 312 00:14:35,034 --> 00:14:37,931 He was ready to let go, 313 00:14:38,034 --> 00:14:41,896 and, you know, he's really been thrown a curve ball 314 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,172 as far as, you know, what does this mean 315 00:14:45,275 --> 00:14:48,137 that he gets a life back, you know? 316 00:14:48,241 --> 00:14:51,793 And I think, when he was kind of staring off into oblivion, 317 00:14:51,896 --> 00:14:54,931 he really didn't know what was next, so, you know, 318 00:14:55,034 --> 00:14:57,586 so he's got a lot of hard thinking to do 319 00:14:57,689 --> 00:15:00,482 about what it means to be in the Commonwealth 320 00:15:00,586 --> 00:15:02,517 and to have a new lease on life. 321 00:15:02,620 --> 00:15:03,620 -This is from Facebook. 322 00:15:03,724 --> 00:15:05,379 Vanessa M. on Facebook wants to know, 323 00:15:05,482 --> 00:15:06,655 "Ross, how would you compare 324 00:15:06,758 --> 00:15:10,517 Pamela Milton and Deanna as leaders?" 325 00:15:10,620 --> 00:15:13,344 -I think they're both very polished, of course. 326 00:15:13,448 --> 00:15:15,275 I mean, obviously they knew each other 327 00:15:15,379 --> 00:15:17,827 from before the world fell. 328 00:15:17,931 --> 00:15:21,655 They have that sort of politician -- 329 00:15:21,758 --> 00:15:25,827 um, what's the best way to -- sheen, I guess, to them. 330 00:15:25,931 --> 00:15:29,586 They're very well put together, they're very eloquent, 331 00:15:29,689 --> 00:15:33,068 and they're very, at least at first, seemingly disingenuous 332 00:15:33,172 --> 00:15:35,413 because that's what politicians are. 333 00:15:35,517 --> 00:15:39,551 But I think Deanna differs a little bit from Pamela 334 00:15:39,655 --> 00:15:44,000 in the sense that I think Deanna really cares a lot about -- 335 00:15:44,103 --> 00:15:45,379 or cared a lot about 336 00:15:45,482 --> 00:15:47,551 her Commonwealth and her constituents, 337 00:15:47,655 --> 00:15:50,172 whereas Pamela, we're not quite so sure 338 00:15:50,275 --> 00:15:52,586 about what her real motivations are just yet. 339 00:15:52,689 --> 00:15:53,793 -Yeah. 340 00:15:53,896 --> 00:15:56,000 -Deborah Joy, how do you think Mercer felt 341 00:15:56,103 --> 00:15:59,000 when he found out that Daryl was a leader at Alexandria? 342 00:15:59,103 --> 00:16:01,034 There was a little moment there. 343 00:16:01,137 --> 00:16:04,827 -There was, and I think it was a moment of respect. 344 00:16:04,931 --> 00:16:07,965 You know, I think that he understood Daryl could fight, 345 00:16:08,068 --> 00:16:09,551 Daryl could hold his own, 346 00:16:09,655 --> 00:16:12,172 but when he saw the people respected him 347 00:16:12,275 --> 00:16:14,586 and that he was actually a leader, 348 00:16:14,689 --> 00:16:16,379 more so just like Mercer is, 349 00:16:16,482 --> 00:16:19,655 I think he just had a newfound respect for him. 350 00:16:19,758 --> 00:16:24,068 And I think that also Mercer realizes he's gonna have to -- 351 00:16:24,172 --> 00:16:25,655 he's gonna have to make some friends 352 00:16:25,758 --> 00:16:28,034 because I think he knows there's some -- 353 00:16:28,137 --> 00:16:30,620 it's some foolishness underneath, 354 00:16:30,724 --> 00:16:32,758 and he's got to make some friends 355 00:16:32,862 --> 00:16:35,275 to sort of have another way out. 356 00:16:35,379 --> 00:16:37,517 -Well, Mercer even says, like, "We're all playing a role." 357 00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:39,586 -Oh, yeah, absolutely. And everybody's always watching. 358 00:16:39,689 --> 00:16:40,758 -Right, right. 359 00:16:40,862 --> 00:16:43,965 So it seems like that was loaded with some, like, 360 00:16:44,068 --> 00:16:45,689 "Oh, my God, I got to read between the lines of that. 361 00:16:45,793 --> 00:16:47,000 What's he saying? Is he like..." 362 00:16:47,103 --> 00:16:48,344 -I read a lot between the lines. 363 00:16:48,448 --> 00:16:50,344 I was like, oh, everybody's got to get it together. 364 00:16:50,448 --> 00:16:52,655 Everybody's watching, nobody's good, 365 00:16:52,758 --> 00:16:56,068 and Mercer is going to have to find a way of escape 366 00:16:56,172 --> 00:16:57,517 for him and his sister. 367 00:16:57,620 --> 00:16:59,310 And he needs some friends on the outside. 368 00:16:59,413 --> 00:17:01,517 -Yeah, and that felt like the first line 369 00:17:01,620 --> 00:17:04,068 that he's kind of testing to say, like, 370 00:17:04,172 --> 00:17:07,068 "Hey, just so you know, you know, maybe later on..." 371 00:17:07,172 --> 00:17:08,758 -Yeah. I think they're gonna be homeys. 372 00:17:08,862 --> 00:17:10,103 I like it. -I think so. 373 00:17:10,205 --> 00:17:12,931 And I also like the way that Daryl kind of, I mean, 374 00:17:13,034 --> 00:17:14,758 I think a good leader is someone who, like, 375 00:17:14,862 --> 00:17:17,344 doesn't rush to being -- and Daryl's like, 376 00:17:17,448 --> 00:17:20,482 "Well, we all kind of -- we all, you know, 377 00:17:20,586 --> 00:17:23,310 like, we all have a part to play here." 378 00:17:23,413 --> 00:17:27,344 Khary, what was your reaction to Dianne the archer 379 00:17:27,448 --> 00:17:28,965 just saying, 380 00:17:29,068 --> 00:17:32,482 "Hey, Maggie, I love you, but I can't be here anymore"? 381 00:17:32,586 --> 00:17:34,344 -Oh, man, you know what? 382 00:17:34,448 --> 00:17:37,482 I've been lobbying to get my archer back, 383 00:17:37,586 --> 00:17:40,620 Dianne back, for years, you know? 384 00:17:40,724 --> 00:17:44,068 It's like literally the kingdom has been decimated. 385 00:17:44,172 --> 00:17:47,413 I can't lose anybody else, you know what I mean? 386 00:17:47,517 --> 00:17:50,068 And she went running off into the woods with Maggie, 387 00:17:50,172 --> 00:17:52,172 and I hadn't heard from her since. 388 00:17:52,275 --> 00:17:53,931 And it was just great 389 00:17:54,034 --> 00:17:57,206 to see them kind of spotlight Kerry Cahill, 390 00:17:57,310 --> 00:18:01,413 who has been with the show as long as I have. 391 00:18:01,517 --> 00:18:02,965 We were all -- there was just 392 00:18:03,068 --> 00:18:06,068 that kind of a handful of us that were hiding in Atlanta 393 00:18:06,172 --> 00:18:08,206 when we couldn't tell anybody that we were on the show 394 00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:09,517 or we were doing anything. 395 00:18:09,620 --> 00:18:11,724 And she's such an amazing actress. 396 00:18:11,827 --> 00:18:14,689 She got those piercing eyes, that incredible intensity, 397 00:18:14,793 --> 00:18:19,655 and she she does this amazing stuff all the time 398 00:18:19,758 --> 00:18:22,000 in these places you don't expect. 399 00:18:22,103 --> 00:18:26,482 If you get a chance, watch, like, the DVD of "Logan," 400 00:18:26,586 --> 00:18:28,655 you know, the Wolverine movie. 401 00:18:28,758 --> 00:18:31,034 She's got this deleted scene where she plays a cop 402 00:18:31,137 --> 00:18:34,068 pulling them over, and it is so awesome. 403 00:18:34,172 --> 00:18:36,896 And I'm just putting a little plug in there for my girl 404 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,275 because she does this where she just pops in 405 00:18:40,379 --> 00:18:43,310 and kicks ass and pops out. 406 00:18:43,413 --> 00:18:46,206 But we got so many amazing people on this show. 407 00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:47,862 Kerry's just one of them. 408 00:18:47,965 --> 00:18:50,413 -Well, and again, it's easy to understand 409 00:18:50,517 --> 00:18:51,931 why at this point she would be like, 410 00:18:52,034 --> 00:18:53,724 "Yeah, we need help." -Absolutely. 411 00:18:53,827 --> 00:18:55,551 "Maggie, you got to ask for help." 412 00:18:55,655 --> 00:18:59,310 And so -- but again, you know, like, you would understand 413 00:18:59,413 --> 00:19:00,758 why Maggie doesn't trust anyone, 414 00:19:00,862 --> 00:19:03,172 and she's like, "Everything costs something." 415 00:19:03,275 --> 00:19:04,793 Coming up, we have more interviews with the cast, 416 00:19:04,896 --> 00:19:06,241 and later we have an exclusive sneak peek 417 00:19:06,344 --> 00:19:07,655 of next week's episode of "The Walking Dead." 418 00:19:07,758 --> 00:19:09,758 But first, here's Josh McDermitt on the moment 419 00:19:09,862 --> 00:19:11,931 Eugene realizes that he can trust Max. 420 00:19:12,034 --> 00:19:13,896 Please enjoy. 421 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,689 -When Max and Eugene are talking about the novel 422 00:19:17,793 --> 00:19:19,965 and they're on the same page 423 00:19:20,068 --> 00:19:22,482 and they're talking about, "Well, did you do this?" 424 00:19:22,586 --> 00:19:24,275 And, "Of course I did, and it was the best," 425 00:19:24,379 --> 00:19:28,172 It's more confirmation for Eugene that he is in fact 426 00:19:28,275 --> 00:19:30,827 the person he was talking to on the radio. 427 00:19:30,931 --> 00:19:35,206 And it's nice because I think he was still taking a risk 428 00:19:35,310 --> 00:19:37,344 going back to her and admitting, 429 00:19:37,448 --> 00:19:40,172 "Hey, I'm sorry for running away that night 430 00:19:40,275 --> 00:19:42,068 and for basically ditching you, 431 00:19:42,172 --> 00:19:44,827 and you were in the middle of telling me what was going on, 432 00:19:44,931 --> 00:19:46,793 and I was basically ignoring you 433 00:19:46,896 --> 00:19:49,172 because I had my own crap going on." 434 00:19:49,275 --> 00:19:50,517 So to come together 435 00:19:50,620 --> 00:19:53,482 after what seemed like her rejecting him, 436 00:19:53,586 --> 00:19:56,379 and we start to see, you know, the spark 437 00:19:56,482 --> 00:19:59,482 of what made that relationship special on the radio for them 438 00:19:59,586 --> 00:20:01,896 in the first place. 439 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,758 ♪ 440 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,000 ♪ 441 00:20:14,103 --> 00:20:18,103 -Being a big secret of the show is such an honor 442 00:20:18,206 --> 00:20:21,172 because there's so many little Easter eggs and secrets 443 00:20:21,275 --> 00:20:22,931 to be had on this show. 444 00:20:23,034 --> 00:20:24,379 When I first joined the show, 445 00:20:24,482 --> 00:20:26,896 I was listed as Stephanie, my character was Stephanie, 446 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,379 so even the reveal was a reveal to me. 447 00:20:30,482 --> 00:20:32,758 And that was really fun to learn about Max 448 00:20:32,862 --> 00:20:34,689 and learn about her backstory. 449 00:20:34,793 --> 00:20:37,275 I've been nervous to talk about my character 450 00:20:37,379 --> 00:20:39,586 or anything associated since 451 00:20:39,689 --> 00:20:41,344 because I just didn't want to be the one 452 00:20:41,448 --> 00:20:44,310 that would screw everything up. 453 00:20:44,413 --> 00:20:47,448 Eugene's reaction when she finally came clean 454 00:20:47,551 --> 00:20:48,827 about who she was, 455 00:20:48,931 --> 00:20:54,068 it must be really painful to realize who somebody is 456 00:20:54,172 --> 00:20:56,206 when you've been lying to them for so long, 457 00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:58,034 especially when they really trusted you, 458 00:20:58,137 --> 00:20:59,724 and in a world and time 459 00:20:59,827 --> 00:21:02,172 that it's really hard to trust somebody. 460 00:21:02,275 --> 00:21:06,172 I can only imagine his journey that it took to get to her, 461 00:21:06,275 --> 00:21:09,517 and then she really wasn't honest the whole time. 462 00:21:09,620 --> 00:21:10,896 So it is heartbreaking, 463 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,241 but she was willing to put herself out there. 464 00:21:13,344 --> 00:21:15,620 She was willing to put it all on the line 465 00:21:15,724 --> 00:21:18,448 because she really does care about this man 466 00:21:18,551 --> 00:21:21,379 and maybe, possibly love him. 467 00:21:21,482 --> 00:21:23,724 ♪ 468 00:21:23,827 --> 00:21:25,172 Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 469 00:21:25,275 --> 00:21:27,448 That was Margot Bingham on the feelings Max has for Eugene. 470 00:21:27,551 --> 00:21:29,689 We're back with Deborah Joy, Khary, and Ross. 471 00:21:29,793 --> 00:21:33,275 So, Ross, if Aaron knew what happened to Eugene, 472 00:21:33,379 --> 00:21:36,724 would that affect him working with Hornsby? 473 00:21:36,827 --> 00:21:38,620 -Oh, if I knew about the mistreatment 474 00:21:38,724 --> 00:21:40,000 that Eugene had suffered? 475 00:21:40,103 --> 00:21:42,068 -Yes. -Oh, yeah. I think... 476 00:21:42,172 --> 00:21:46,413 I mean, the hoops that all four of those characters 477 00:21:46,517 --> 00:21:47,862 have had to go through. 478 00:21:47,965 --> 00:21:51,862 You know, Yumiko, Princess, King Ezekiel, and Eugene, 479 00:21:51,965 --> 00:21:54,000 it's just -- it's absurd, you know? 480 00:21:54,103 --> 00:21:57,655 And I understand a certain level of, you know, 481 00:21:57,758 --> 00:21:59,896 vetting that needs to happen for new people, 482 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,827 but they just seem to punish Eugene unnecessarily so 483 00:22:04,931 --> 00:22:07,344 and really kind of run him through an emotional wringer. 484 00:22:07,448 --> 00:22:10,724 And I think if he had known that, new community or no, 485 00:22:10,827 --> 00:22:14,586 I think Aaron never would have worked with Hornsby. 486 00:22:14,689 --> 00:22:15,862 -So Deborah Joy, last week on the show 487 00:22:15,965 --> 00:22:18,793 we were lamenting that he burned his manuscript, 488 00:22:18,896 --> 00:22:20,724 which just killed me. 489 00:22:20,827 --> 00:22:22,241 It was like, "Oh!" 490 00:22:22,344 --> 00:22:23,931 And I thought he was going to say he had another copy. 491 00:22:24,034 --> 00:22:25,344 I felt so much better when he was like, 492 00:22:25,448 --> 00:22:27,620 "But I remember all of it." Of course he does. 493 00:22:27,724 --> 00:22:28,827 Did you have a reaction to that scene 494 00:22:28,931 --> 00:22:30,965 where Max and Eugene are discussing the novel 495 00:22:31,068 --> 00:22:32,482 and connecting on all the points? 496 00:22:32,586 --> 00:22:34,034 -I mean, I thought it was beautiful. 497 00:22:34,137 --> 00:22:37,310 I thought that, look, Eugene was going down a bad path. 498 00:22:37,413 --> 00:22:39,758 He needed some source of hope. 499 00:22:39,862 --> 00:22:41,379 And so when he came to her, 500 00:22:41,482 --> 00:22:44,448 I just thought, "How wonderful it is to know 501 00:22:44,551 --> 00:22:47,586 that what you did feel was actually real. 502 00:22:47,689 --> 00:22:49,310 She was actually real. 503 00:22:49,413 --> 00:22:50,862 And you went through a lot of things, 504 00:22:50,965 --> 00:22:52,655 but, look, the connection is still there." 505 00:22:52,758 --> 00:22:55,379 And so they got all that little nerd talk going, 506 00:22:55,482 --> 00:22:57,862 I said, "Okay, this is really cute." 507 00:22:57,965 --> 00:22:59,206 They're kind of meant for each other. 508 00:22:59,310 --> 00:23:01,551 -They're meant for each other, yeah, they're supposed -- 509 00:23:01,655 --> 00:23:02,896 "Did you put this in?" "Of course I did." 510 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,862 You know, that whole thing. -I loved it. 511 00:23:04,965 --> 00:23:06,793 Khary, what did you think of Eugene's apology 512 00:23:06,896 --> 00:23:08,241 at the end to Max? 513 00:23:08,344 --> 00:23:11,241 It's so vulnerable and sweet? Did you have that reaction? 514 00:23:11,344 --> 00:23:14,000 -Yeah, you know, it's -- 515 00:23:14,103 --> 00:23:18,172 the cool thing about Eugene 516 00:23:18,275 --> 00:23:21,000 and the cool thing about Josh playing Eugene 517 00:23:21,103 --> 00:23:26,379 is that you took this guy who started it off 518 00:23:26,482 --> 00:23:28,482 as kind of comedy relief. 519 00:23:28,586 --> 00:23:33,241 He was -- He was something that was weird and peculiar 520 00:23:33,344 --> 00:23:36,068 that you could always find something to laugh about. 521 00:23:36,172 --> 00:23:40,827 And the layers of the onion that is Eugene 522 00:23:40,931 --> 00:23:45,103 and the layers that Josh is able to play 523 00:23:45,206 --> 00:23:48,034 are just incredible. 524 00:23:48,137 --> 00:23:52,310 To be able to see Eugene go from this guy 525 00:23:52,413 --> 00:23:57,000 who really can't have that deep of a relationship 526 00:23:57,103 --> 00:24:01,068 to learning to be able to see people 527 00:24:01,172 --> 00:24:03,413 as multilayered human beings 528 00:24:03,517 --> 00:24:08,034 and be able to find that kind of apology within himself, 529 00:24:08,137 --> 00:24:09,965 you know, over the course of this time, 530 00:24:10,068 --> 00:24:11,793 I think it's just been incredible. 531 00:24:11,896 --> 00:24:13,379 -Well, yeah, because when we first saw him, 532 00:24:13,482 --> 00:24:16,620 he was lying about who he was and what his experience was, 533 00:24:16,724 --> 00:24:19,965 you know, cut to he, like, you know, 534 00:24:20,068 --> 00:24:22,448 helped save everyone against the Saviors, 535 00:24:22,551 --> 00:24:23,896 and then now he's having... 536 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:29,103 -He was using everyone for his own good. 537 00:24:29,206 --> 00:24:30,896 You know, from the very beginning. 538 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,172 He was just like, "How can I survive?" 539 00:24:33,275 --> 00:24:39,586 And now to -- I think really the women in his life, 540 00:24:39,689 --> 00:24:42,620 Rosita and now Margot, 541 00:24:42,724 --> 00:24:46,068 have really been able to pull out of him a humanity 542 00:24:46,172 --> 00:24:49,655 that thinks of others before himself. 543 00:24:49,758 --> 00:24:52,068 -Ross, since we first met Aaron, 544 00:24:52,172 --> 00:24:55,103 you know, Aaron has also been through a lot. 545 00:24:55,206 --> 00:24:56,275 He's been through a lot of changes. 546 00:24:56,379 --> 00:24:58,517 He's -- so much has happened in his life, 547 00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:00,241 and he's grown so much as a character. 548 00:25:00,344 --> 00:25:04,241 How does that affect his mindset now? 549 00:25:04,344 --> 00:25:06,000 -How does all of the things 550 00:25:06,103 --> 00:25:07,655 that's happened to him affected him? 551 00:25:07,758 --> 00:25:11,827 Yeah, I think, you know, the first defining instance, 552 00:25:11,931 --> 00:25:16,241 of course, was losing Glenn and Abraham in the lineup, 553 00:25:16,344 --> 00:25:18,517 then losing Eric, of course, then losing Jesus. 554 00:25:18,620 --> 00:25:20,620 I think he's just keenly aware 555 00:25:20,724 --> 00:25:24,000 of how fragile all of these communities are 556 00:25:24,103 --> 00:25:27,413 and their strange, you know, ruthless fights 557 00:25:27,517 --> 00:25:28,620 with all these crazy, 558 00:25:28,724 --> 00:25:31,034 you know, threats throughout the years. 559 00:25:31,137 --> 00:25:34,586 And I think the diplomacy that he used to rely on first 560 00:25:34,689 --> 00:25:36,551 has now taken a back seat. 561 00:25:36,655 --> 00:25:39,379 And now he's more of a more proactive leader. 562 00:25:39,482 --> 00:25:41,689 He's more of a, like, 563 00:25:41,793 --> 00:25:43,931 "We'll give someone a chance, but only one chance. 564 00:25:44,034 --> 00:25:46,965 And if if they can't honor diplomacy, 565 00:25:47,068 --> 00:25:48,448 then we'll just take them out," 566 00:25:48,551 --> 00:25:52,413 not unlike what we saw from from Shane and Rick back in the day. 567 00:25:52,517 --> 00:25:54,551 You know, it's like they used to be, 568 00:25:54,655 --> 00:25:55,965 you know, like, "Well, let's just reason with people." 569 00:25:56,068 --> 00:25:57,724 Now it's like, "No, we don't have time for that." 570 00:25:57,827 --> 00:26:01,413 So I think it's kind of cool to see how, given enough time, 571 00:26:01,517 --> 00:26:04,689 even the nice diplomatic people will eventually be like, 572 00:26:04,793 --> 00:26:06,655 "No, we're just gonna fight you." Yeah. 573 00:26:06,758 --> 00:26:08,448 -Before we go to break, please make sure to sign up 574 00:26:08,551 --> 00:26:10,344 for AMC+ AMCPlus.com 575 00:26:10,448 --> 00:26:12,689 if you want early access to episodes of "The Walking Dead" 576 00:26:12,793 --> 00:26:15,000 and other amazing shows like "Killing Eve," 577 00:26:15,103 --> 00:26:16,896 which, by the way, you can watch new episodes of 578 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,793 the fourth and final season of the award-winning "Killing Eve," 579 00:26:19,896 --> 00:26:22,310 starring Sandra Oh and Jodie Comer 580 00:26:22,413 --> 00:26:26,896 Mondays at 9:00 p.m. on AMC, or a week early on AMC+. 581 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,862 "Killing Eve's" final season will give fans one last look at 582 00:26:29,965 --> 00:26:32,034 Eve and Villanelle's obsession with each other. 583 00:26:32,137 --> 00:26:34,172 So make sure to check that out. That's on AMC+. 584 00:26:34,275 --> 00:26:35,862 Coming up, our "Talking Dead" throwback clip 585 00:26:35,965 --> 00:26:37,620 and the sneak peek from next week's episode. 586 00:26:37,724 --> 00:26:39,206 We'll be right back. 587 00:26:39,310 --> 00:26:43,931 ♪ 588 00:26:45,655 --> 00:26:50,172 ♪ 589 00:26:50,275 --> 00:26:53,275 -Have you guys not seen Ross online on YouTube 590 00:26:53,379 --> 00:26:54,827 doing amazing impressions? 591 00:26:54,931 --> 00:26:56,000 He is a master! 592 00:26:56,103 --> 00:26:57,862 So a couple of people have made requests. 593 00:26:57,965 --> 00:26:59,310 AlexVanDyckEminem says, 594 00:26:59,413 --> 00:27:02,103 "Michael Caine fighting a horde of walkers." 595 00:27:02,206 --> 00:27:03,931 -[Imitating Michael Caine] Now, I don't -- I don't really know 596 00:27:04,034 --> 00:27:05,000 how he would handle it. 597 00:27:05,103 --> 00:27:06,172 I'll have to imagine. 598 00:27:06,275 --> 00:27:08,413 Master Wayne, he'd bring out the Batmobile. 599 00:27:08,517 --> 00:27:10,793 What was it, the Bat limo? What was it? 600 00:27:10,896 --> 00:27:12,586 -Lamborghini. -The Lamborghini. 601 00:27:12,689 --> 00:27:14,000 -Alright, perfect. 602 00:27:14,103 --> 00:27:15,551 Daniel R. from talkingdead.com. 603 00:27:15,655 --> 00:27:18,068 "Jason Statham arguing with walkers." 604 00:27:18,172 --> 00:27:21,275 -[Imitating Jason Statham] Alright, calm down, calm down. 605 00:27:21,379 --> 00:27:23,448 You all need to go the other way. 606 00:27:23,551 --> 00:27:25,793 'Cause, no, I'm not having it. 607 00:27:25,896 --> 00:27:28,965 This is from Delaware, Kip. "Pacino as Rick." 608 00:27:29,068 --> 00:27:32,000 -[Imitating Al Pacino] Okay, here's what we're gonna do. 609 00:27:32,103 --> 00:27:33,689 You guys. 610 00:27:33,793 --> 00:27:37,137 Over there, Alexandria is here. Hilltop over there. 611 00:27:37,241 --> 00:27:40,344 There's going to be separation. Yeah. Love it. Good. 612 00:27:40,448 --> 00:27:41,379 -Perfect. 613 00:27:41,482 --> 00:27:44,103 [ Cheers and applause ] 614 00:27:44,206 --> 00:27:45,482 Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 615 00:27:45,586 --> 00:27:47,689 That was one of our favorite "Talking Dead" throwbacks, 616 00:27:47,793 --> 00:27:51,827 from season six back in 2016. 617 00:27:51,931 --> 00:27:55,034 We're back with Deborah Joy and Khary and Ross. 618 00:27:55,137 --> 00:28:00,758 This is from Megan "Peesitin"... 619 00:28:00,862 --> 00:28:04,206 Megan "Peesitin" on Twitter. 620 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:07,310 I'm sorry if I didn't say that right. Darn it. 621 00:28:07,413 --> 00:28:10,275 "Ross, if you could go back to your first day on set 622 00:28:10,379 --> 00:28:13,206 and leave yourself a note, what would it say?" 623 00:28:13,310 --> 00:28:14,310 -Ooh. 624 00:28:14,413 --> 00:28:18,000 -Don't sweat so much, probably. -[Laughs] 625 00:28:18,103 --> 00:28:21,655 I remember the first day, on the plane ride over, 626 00:28:21,758 --> 00:28:23,000 I was sweating. 627 00:28:23,103 --> 00:28:24,724 I had to change my shirt three times 628 00:28:24,827 --> 00:28:26,482 because I was sweating so much. 629 00:28:26,586 --> 00:28:29,172 And luckily, I found -- 630 00:28:29,275 --> 00:28:30,620 the first person I met was Andrew Lincoln, 631 00:28:30,724 --> 00:28:32,655 and I found out that he was a big sweater too 632 00:28:32,758 --> 00:28:34,724 so I didn't feel quite so bad. 633 00:28:34,827 --> 00:28:36,827 I was like, "Oh, great, we both have hyperhidrosis. 634 00:28:36,931 --> 00:28:38,172 Lovely." 635 00:28:38,275 --> 00:28:41,379 But I think, A, don't sweat so much physically, 636 00:28:41,482 --> 00:28:43,551 but also, B, don't sweat so much mentally, 637 00:28:43,655 --> 00:28:46,620 because I was a big fan of the show before I got on it, 638 00:28:46,724 --> 00:28:49,793 and I was so worried about coming onto a show 639 00:28:49,896 --> 00:28:51,482 and, you know, being the one 640 00:28:51,586 --> 00:28:53,310 to mess it up or something, you know? 641 00:28:53,413 --> 00:28:55,413 And I think you just have to realize 642 00:28:55,517 --> 00:28:57,137 that most of the people on our show 643 00:28:57,241 --> 00:28:59,965 got their start on our show or somewhere, 644 00:29:00,068 --> 00:29:01,896 and everyone's just doing their best. 645 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,448 And you just have to realize that 646 00:29:04,551 --> 00:29:05,724 and not get so tripped out 647 00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:07,517 about being amongst all these people 648 00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:08,862 that were, you know, 649 00:29:08,965 --> 00:29:10,620 your favorite characters and everything. 650 00:29:10,724 --> 00:29:12,172 You just have to enjoy it, you know, so... 651 00:29:12,275 --> 00:29:13,724 -Beautiful answer. 652 00:29:13,827 --> 00:29:16,517 Deborah Joy, what did you think of Oceanside rejecting -- 653 00:29:16,620 --> 00:29:18,275 also rejecting the Commonwealth's deal? 654 00:29:18,379 --> 00:29:19,655 Contingent upon Hilltop, of course. 655 00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:21,034 -Absolutely. 656 00:29:21,137 --> 00:29:23,586 I think that it shows that they are still a family. 657 00:29:23,689 --> 00:29:25,206 It shows loyalty. 658 00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:27,068 And it shows that they trust Maggie. 659 00:29:27,172 --> 00:29:29,862 If there's anybody I am going to trust -- 660 00:29:29,965 --> 00:29:32,172 If Maggie says no, I'm going with Maggie. 661 00:29:32,275 --> 00:29:35,689 And so I think that -- I think they're going to be good, 662 00:29:35,793 --> 00:29:37,172 but I thought it was a solid answer. 663 00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:39,068 I thought that it was the right thing to do. 664 00:29:39,172 --> 00:29:40,551 -Yeah. 665 00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:42,896 This is from DanceAJ22 on Twitter. 666 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,482 "Khary, is Ezekiel happy 667 00:29:44,586 --> 00:29:46,413 working with animals again at the Commonwealth 668 00:29:46,517 --> 00:29:49,482 or is it kind of surreal? 669 00:29:49,586 --> 00:29:53,620 -Yeah, no, he's absolutely happy working with animals. 670 00:29:53,724 --> 00:29:55,655 I think -- I think -- 671 00:29:55,758 --> 00:29:59,689 in fact, him going with Eugene and Yumiko 672 00:29:59,793 --> 00:30:02,758 and Princess, eventually, to Commonwealth 673 00:30:02,862 --> 00:30:06,793 was he was looking for a new role, you know, 674 00:30:06,896 --> 00:30:09,172 to not necessarily be, you know, 675 00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:11,206 King Ezekiel anymore. 676 00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:15,206 And he was kind of doing Aaron's thing, you know, 677 00:30:15,310 --> 00:30:17,586 which is scouting and looking for, 678 00:30:17,689 --> 00:30:21,482 you know, some common ground someplace. 679 00:30:21,586 --> 00:30:24,689 And, you know, when he got the little letter that said, 680 00:30:24,793 --> 00:30:26,275 you know, he's going to be a zookeeper -- 681 00:30:26,379 --> 00:30:28,793 he's not even a zookeeper, he's just the petting zoo guy. 682 00:30:28,896 --> 00:30:32,448 You know, so, literally, he's there just to, like, 683 00:30:32,551 --> 00:30:35,551 hold fuzzy animals and make kids laugh, you know? 684 00:30:35,655 --> 00:30:39,793 And I think, you know, Ezekiel you could use a break 685 00:30:39,896 --> 00:30:42,655 from all of the craziness and just be like, 686 00:30:42,758 --> 00:30:46,413 "You know what? Can I make a kid laugh, you know? 687 00:30:46,517 --> 00:30:48,379 All I have to do is worry about, is, you know, 688 00:30:48,482 --> 00:30:50,793 a bunny peeing on me every once in a while." 689 00:30:50,896 --> 00:30:52,931 Which did happen. 690 00:30:53,034 --> 00:30:54,862 -Oh, that happened when you guys were filming? 691 00:30:54,965 --> 00:30:56,379 -[Laughing] Yes. -Fantastic. 692 00:30:56,482 --> 00:30:58,586 I think it's probably better than a full tiger peeing on you, 693 00:30:58,689 --> 00:31:01,310 would be my guess. 694 00:31:01,413 --> 00:31:02,655 -I have not. 695 00:31:02,758 --> 00:31:05,310 I have not had to deal with that, so thank you. 696 00:31:05,413 --> 00:31:07,793 -So that expands the question into like, you know, 697 00:31:07,896 --> 00:31:10,862 Shiva was such an amazing companion. 698 00:31:10,965 --> 00:31:13,793 Could there ever be another animal companion? 699 00:31:13,896 --> 00:31:16,310 And if so, what would Ezekiel choose? 700 00:31:16,413 --> 00:31:20,482 -I've always said I wanted an elephant 701 00:31:20,586 --> 00:31:22,172 in the apocalypse. -You went bigger. 702 00:31:22,275 --> 00:31:23,827 I thought it was gonna be -- you went way bigger. 703 00:31:23,931 --> 00:31:25,241 -Oh, no. Oh, no. 704 00:31:25,344 --> 00:31:27,758 I need something with a thick skin 705 00:31:27,862 --> 00:31:30,827 that I can climb on top of and stay away from -- 706 00:31:30,931 --> 00:31:34,896 plus, I mean, elephants are my favorite animals. 707 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,344 They're so -- they take care of each other. 708 00:31:37,448 --> 00:31:39,655 I saw a documentary years ago 709 00:31:39,758 --> 00:31:42,241 and I've always loved elephants -- 710 00:31:42,344 --> 00:31:45,793 but thick skin, I can hop on top, they can just -- 711 00:31:45,896 --> 00:31:47,034 you know, give me Dumbo. 712 00:31:47,137 --> 00:31:49,586 Give me Dumbo. -Well, Dumbo can fly. 713 00:31:49,689 --> 00:31:51,206 Of course, you would want a flying elephant 714 00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:52,655 in the apocalypse. 715 00:31:52,758 --> 00:31:55,068 Why wouldn't you want a flying elephant in the apocalypse? 716 00:31:55,172 --> 00:31:56,896 -Hey. -Yeah? 717 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,068 -No, no, I was just going to say, 718 00:31:58,172 --> 00:32:00,034 if I could find an elephant, 719 00:32:00,137 --> 00:32:02,689 then I'd have seen about everything 720 00:32:02,793 --> 00:32:04,827 if I could see an elephant in the apocalypse. 721 00:32:04,931 --> 00:32:06,137 -You know, it's a weird apocalypse. 722 00:32:06,241 --> 00:32:07,482 Anything could happen at this point. 723 00:32:07,586 --> 00:32:10,413 Maybe that's what we're going to see sometime 724 00:32:10,517 --> 00:32:13,655 before the end of the series is, surprise, 725 00:32:13,758 --> 00:32:15,655 here comes Ezekiel on a flying elephant 726 00:32:15,758 --> 00:32:17,551 to swoop down and save everyone, 727 00:32:17,655 --> 00:32:19,517 and you heard it here first on "Talking Dead." 728 00:32:19,620 --> 00:32:20,862 -I don't ask for much. 729 00:32:20,965 --> 00:32:22,862 -Angela Kang is gonna be like, 730 00:32:22,965 --> 00:32:24,206 "Why are people all of a sudden asking me 731 00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:26,000 if there's a flying elephant coming onto the show?" 732 00:32:26,103 --> 00:32:27,724 Well, because we talked about it on "Talking Dead." 733 00:32:27,827 --> 00:32:29,482 Who knows what the future could bring? 734 00:32:29,586 --> 00:32:30,758 Coming up, we have a fan 735 00:32:30,862 --> 00:32:31,896 who's going to join us to ask a question, 736 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,206 and we have that exclusive sneak peek 737 00:32:33,310 --> 00:32:34,241 of next week's episode. 738 00:32:34,344 --> 00:32:35,448 We'll be right back. 739 00:32:35,551 --> 00:32:40,241 ♪ 740 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,758 ♪ 741 00:32:44,862 --> 00:32:46,241 -Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 742 00:32:46,344 --> 00:32:48,448 I want to remind everyone that if you want to ask a question 743 00:32:48,551 --> 00:32:50,034 during "Talking Dead," please send a video 744 00:32:50,137 --> 00:32:52,551 to fansubmission@talkingdead.tv 745 00:32:52,655 --> 00:32:55,206 and share how "The Walking Dead" has impacted you or your life 746 00:32:55,310 --> 00:32:56,655 for a chance to join us. 747 00:32:56,758 --> 00:32:58,034 And now it is my pleasure to introduce 748 00:32:58,137 --> 00:32:59,344 this week's featured fan. 749 00:32:59,448 --> 00:33:01,965 Please welcome Georgie from Tampa, Florida. 750 00:33:02,068 --> 00:33:03,103 Welcome! 751 00:33:03,206 --> 00:33:06,241 Thank you so much for being here. Thank you. 752 00:33:06,344 --> 00:33:08,448 Who is your question for? 753 00:33:08,551 --> 00:33:11,103 -My question is for Ross and Khary. 754 00:33:11,206 --> 00:33:14,275 So Lance tells Maggie about his lucky coin. 755 00:33:14,379 --> 00:33:18,103 Is there anything that brings your characters good luck? 756 00:33:18,206 --> 00:33:20,172 -Good question. -You want to go first? 757 00:33:20,275 --> 00:33:22,413 -No. -Not yet? You know what? 758 00:33:22,517 --> 00:33:25,793 I have a railroad spike 759 00:33:25,896 --> 00:33:28,172 that's been fashioned into a little knife 760 00:33:28,275 --> 00:33:31,310 that Ezekiel used to wear right here on his chest. 761 00:33:31,413 --> 00:33:32,724 And I always thought of that 762 00:33:32,827 --> 00:33:34,793 as kind of his last line of defense. 763 00:33:34,896 --> 00:33:36,275 I called it Private Ryan. 764 00:33:36,379 --> 00:33:37,965 You know, I name all my weapons, 765 00:33:38,068 --> 00:33:40,275 You know, I got -- I got Sgt. Slaughter. 766 00:33:40,379 --> 00:33:42,379 I got, you know, Captain Jack Sparrow. 767 00:33:42,482 --> 00:33:44,551 And little Private Ryan right here. 768 00:33:44,655 --> 00:33:45,827 Shock to the eye. 769 00:33:45,931 --> 00:33:48,689 So that's his little -- his little, you know, 770 00:33:48,793 --> 00:33:50,310 "get out of jail free" card. 771 00:33:50,413 --> 00:33:52,137 -Ross, do you have one? 772 00:33:52,241 --> 00:33:55,241 -I think the mace is his lucky -- yeah. 773 00:33:55,344 --> 00:33:56,931 -That would be pretty lucky in an apocalypse 774 00:33:57,034 --> 00:33:59,620 just to have a mace on standby at all times. 775 00:33:59,724 --> 00:34:00,758 Georgie, thank you so much. 776 00:34:00,862 --> 00:34:04,000 And before you go, I want to show you this. 777 00:34:04,103 --> 00:34:07,241 This is -- This is a two-piece set. 778 00:34:07,344 --> 00:34:10,862 It is a sweatshirt and the pants 779 00:34:10,965 --> 00:34:14,000 with the Commonwealth emblem on them right there. 780 00:34:14,103 --> 00:34:18,447 You can pick these up for yourself at TWDUShop.com. 781 00:34:18,551 --> 00:34:19,862 Oh, here's the thing right there. 782 00:34:19,965 --> 00:34:21,620 And for asking such a great question, Georgie, 783 00:34:21,724 --> 00:34:23,000 you're gonna get these. 784 00:34:23,103 --> 00:34:24,206 We're gonna send these to you. 785 00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:25,827 So thank you so much for being here. 786 00:34:25,931 --> 00:34:27,379 Thank you so much for being here. 787 00:34:27,482 --> 00:34:28,688 But this one's here with me, 788 00:34:28,793 --> 00:34:30,482 so I'll probably take that one home. 789 00:34:30,585 --> 00:34:31,585 And we'll send you -- 790 00:34:31,688 --> 00:34:32,965 -I want to see you in that courtside 791 00:34:33,068 --> 00:34:34,931 at an NBA basketball game. 792 00:34:35,034 --> 00:34:37,000 That's what that looks like. I want to see it. 793 00:34:37,103 --> 00:34:40,206 -[Laughs] You know what? 794 00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:42,310 I will do it. I will put it on. 795 00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:46,137 And before the end of our show, at some point in the future, 796 00:34:46,241 --> 00:34:48,724 I'll wear the -- unless we don't like the Commonwealth. 797 00:34:48,827 --> 00:34:51,620 Then it'd be weird. -No, we don't. We don't. No. 798 00:34:51,724 --> 00:34:53,551 -So we've got to make the Alexandria sweat suit, 799 00:34:53,655 --> 00:34:55,757 is what we need. -Absolutely. 800 00:34:55,862 --> 00:34:59,206 -Do you think that seeing Daryl in formation with the troopers 801 00:34:59,310 --> 00:35:00,655 affects Maggie's decision at all? 802 00:35:00,758 --> 00:35:04,379 Because she kind of looks a little suspicious of it. 803 00:35:04,482 --> 00:35:07,310 -Maggie is brilliant. She is always watching. 804 00:35:07,413 --> 00:35:09,344 She's always suspicious. 805 00:35:09,448 --> 00:35:11,413 And she knows Daryl. 806 00:35:11,517 --> 00:35:13,862 So to see him fall in line is like, 807 00:35:13,965 --> 00:35:16,551 "Hold on, wait a minute. What's going on here?" 808 00:35:16,655 --> 00:35:18,482 She knows that they're not being completely up front. 809 00:35:18,586 --> 00:35:19,793 They're not telling the whole truth. 810 00:35:19,896 --> 00:35:22,310 There's a lot of deceit underneath. 811 00:35:22,413 --> 00:35:24,931 So to see that and then to see Pam 812 00:35:25,034 --> 00:35:29,344 and Hornsby talking, she's like, "Mnh-mnh. No." 813 00:35:29,448 --> 00:35:30,689 Because some things -- 814 00:35:30,793 --> 00:35:32,793 "It's already costing Daryl something." -Right. 815 00:35:32,896 --> 00:35:35,275 "So, what is it gonna cost my people? 816 00:35:35,379 --> 00:35:37,310 I have a whole place to run." 817 00:35:37,413 --> 00:35:39,448 -True, but he does say to her -- 818 00:35:39,551 --> 00:35:40,827 She's like, "You trust these people?" 819 00:35:40,931 --> 00:35:42,000 Basically, he says, like, 820 00:35:42,103 --> 00:35:43,482 "Well, you know me. I never trust anyone." 821 00:35:43,586 --> 00:35:44,896 I feel like that's what she can trust 822 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,068 is that he never never trusts anyone. 823 00:35:46,172 --> 00:35:47,310 -She can trust that, 824 00:35:47,413 --> 00:35:49,172 but then to see it is like, "What's going on?" 825 00:35:49,275 --> 00:35:50,172 -Something going on. 826 00:35:50,275 --> 00:35:52,586 JackChapman269 on Instagram says, 827 00:35:52,689 --> 00:35:57,620 "Ross, any noteworthy blooper moments from this episode?" 828 00:35:57,724 --> 00:35:59,965 -I remember when Lance and I were -- 829 00:36:00,068 --> 00:36:02,137 or Josh and I were going in the caravan 830 00:36:02,241 --> 00:36:04,172 to, I think, Oceanside. 831 00:36:04,275 --> 00:36:05,310 Or maybe it was Hilltop. 832 00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:07,413 And we had this very intense scene 833 00:36:07,517 --> 00:36:08,827 that we were about to do. 834 00:36:08,931 --> 00:36:12,241 And then these horses -- lovely horses -- 835 00:36:12,344 --> 00:36:17,896 but, you know, sometimes they got to go. 836 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,896 -Drop it like it's hot. -Yeah, drop it like it's hot. 837 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,931 It was just right before a big, super important, 838 00:36:24,034 --> 00:36:25,172 very serious take, 839 00:36:25,275 --> 00:36:28,137 and we just lost it, and we were like, 840 00:36:28,241 --> 00:36:31,448 "I can't remember my lines now. I have to get off this truck. 841 00:36:31,551 --> 00:36:33,724 I'm in so much pain right now." 842 00:36:33,827 --> 00:36:35,862 -Was it number one or number two? 843 00:36:35,965 --> 00:36:37,931 -I'm gonna let you decide. 844 00:36:38,034 --> 00:36:40,896 -I will say a number one is actually -- 845 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,827 when horses go number one, that's actually an angry pee, 846 00:36:44,931 --> 00:36:49,068 and it scares me much more than number two, personally. 847 00:36:49,172 --> 00:36:51,793 -Number two, like, horses, just so lazily drop it, 848 00:36:51,896 --> 00:36:53,344 like, "Oh, well." 849 00:36:53,448 --> 00:36:56,965 And you want an elephant, Khary. You want an elephant. 850 00:36:57,068 --> 00:36:58,689 Dropping it from that height. 851 00:36:58,793 --> 00:37:01,034 -And it is hot. It's hot. It's actually hot. 852 00:37:01,137 --> 00:37:02,724 -Stop them for like five hours at a time 853 00:37:02,827 --> 00:37:04,172 while they clean it up. 854 00:37:04,275 --> 00:37:05,586 Or that's also part of the deterrent. 855 00:37:05,689 --> 00:37:07,310 Like, "We're not gonna fight that guy 856 00:37:07,413 --> 00:37:10,068 'cause that's a big dumping machine there," and nobody -- 857 00:37:10,172 --> 00:37:11,310 Even the walkers are like, 858 00:37:11,413 --> 00:37:12,689 "We'll take -- we'll go this other way. 859 00:37:12,793 --> 00:37:14,068 We're gonna take this other road." 860 00:37:14,172 --> 00:37:15,034 Before we go to break. 861 00:37:15,137 --> 00:37:16,448 you can be part of the conversation 862 00:37:16,551 --> 00:37:18,275 by following FearHQ on Twitch. 863 00:37:18,379 --> 00:37:20,413 You will find the host discussing all things horror 864 00:37:20,517 --> 00:37:22,103 and "The Walking Dead," so please check it out. 865 00:37:22,206 --> 00:37:23,206 That's on Twitch. 866 00:37:23,310 --> 00:37:25,000 Coming up, we have the exclusive sneak peek 867 00:37:25,103 --> 00:37:26,862 of next week's episode of "The Walking Dead." 868 00:37:26,965 --> 00:37:28,448 We will be right back. 869 00:37:28,551 --> 00:37:33,241 ♪ 870 00:37:35,310 --> 00:37:38,310 ♪ 871 00:37:38,413 --> 00:37:39,551 Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 872 00:37:39,655 --> 00:37:41,310 It is now time for our exclusive sneak peek 873 00:37:41,413 --> 00:37:42,482 of next week's new episode. 874 00:37:42,586 --> 00:37:43,620 Check it out. 875 00:37:43,724 --> 00:37:45,862 [Herd growling] 876 00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:57,896 [Weapons slashing] 877 00:38:02,689 --> 00:38:04,896 -The knife slashed right through the neck guard. 878 00:38:09,896 --> 00:38:11,413 Shot between the armor gaps. 879 00:38:12,689 --> 00:38:14,000 -Hey! 880 00:38:18,206 --> 00:38:19,551 Hey! 881 00:38:25,827 --> 00:38:27,000 -It's Aaron. 882 00:38:28,862 --> 00:38:31,896 -Oh! -What is happening, Deborah Joy? 883 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,344 -Oh! I don't know. 884 00:38:34,448 --> 00:38:36,137 Aaron, why you in them streets like that? 885 00:38:36,241 --> 00:38:38,172 What is going on? 886 00:38:38,275 --> 00:38:40,586 -I mean, obviously, someone has taken them out. 887 00:38:40,689 --> 00:38:43,655 Someone's taken out the Commonwealth troopers. 888 00:38:43,758 --> 00:38:46,517 -Who? And why? -I don't know. 889 00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:47,896 I mean, I think it should happen, 890 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,379 but, like, I need to know. 891 00:38:49,482 --> 00:38:51,827 I need more. I need a little bit more. 892 00:38:51,931 --> 00:38:54,344 -Ross, is there anything you can tease about this, 893 00:38:54,448 --> 00:38:56,241 of course, without spoiling anything? 894 00:38:56,344 --> 00:38:57,827 Unless you just feel like spoiling it. 895 00:38:57,931 --> 00:38:59,379 You know, I don't mind. -No. 896 00:38:59,482 --> 00:39:01,586 Uh, aliens. 897 00:39:01,689 --> 00:39:03,344 I've said it before, but it's aliens. 898 00:39:03,448 --> 00:39:06,206 -When in doubt, aliens. There you go. 899 00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:07,206 Oh, my God. 900 00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:09,103 If that turns out to be, the answer. 901 00:39:09,206 --> 00:39:10,344 It's like, "Oh, my God!" 902 00:39:10,448 --> 00:39:13,379 So, so far we have flying elephant and aliens. 903 00:39:13,482 --> 00:39:16,241 A lot of big things coming up on "Walking Dead." 904 00:39:16,344 --> 00:39:19,000 Khary, I do have one quick question for you 905 00:39:19,103 --> 00:39:22,724 because I know this is a topic that does divide people -- 906 00:39:22,827 --> 00:39:25,068 Pineapple on pizza in real life? 907 00:39:25,172 --> 00:39:26,172 Thoughts. -Oh. 908 00:39:26,275 --> 00:39:29,241 Yeah, no, no pineapple for me. 909 00:39:29,344 --> 00:39:30,448 -Yeah. 910 00:39:30,551 --> 00:39:32,482 -Not so much that I don't like it, 911 00:39:32,586 --> 00:39:35,931 but my partner in life, Tracy, 912 00:39:36,034 --> 00:39:38,068 is deathly allergic to pineapple. 913 00:39:38,172 --> 00:39:40,034 -Oh, well, then that's a big no. That's the hard pass. 914 00:39:40,137 --> 00:39:43,931 -So, yeah, we don't even -- we don't go there. 915 00:39:44,034 --> 00:39:45,551 We don't go there on -- on set. 916 00:39:45,655 --> 00:39:50,103 She's the key makeup artist on "The Walking Dead." 917 00:39:50,206 --> 00:39:51,896 She's actually been there longer than I have, 918 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,275 but she -- yeah, yeah, we don't bring it on set it. 919 00:39:54,379 --> 00:39:57,275 It doesn't come anywhere. We don't do pineapple. 920 00:39:57,379 --> 00:39:58,344 -Fantastic. 921 00:39:58,448 --> 00:40:02,034 And then waffle cone, cake cone...? 922 00:40:02,137 --> 00:40:04,379 -Waffles, waffles, waffles, baby. 923 00:40:04,482 --> 00:40:06,586 Waffles, waffles, waffles all day. 924 00:40:06,689 --> 00:40:07,827 -Ross? 925 00:40:07,931 --> 00:40:10,068 -Give me the big waffle cone, man. 926 00:40:10,172 --> 00:40:12,241 In fact, I wouldn't have been sitting there like Eugene, 927 00:40:12,344 --> 00:40:13,413 not eating them. 928 00:40:13,517 --> 00:40:15,586 I would have just -- boom. 929 00:40:15,689 --> 00:40:16,896 Both of them would have been happening. 930 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,931 -Those ones that look like a turtleneck, 931 00:40:19,034 --> 00:40:21,206 you know, with the little scoop inside, you know, the best. 932 00:40:21,310 --> 00:40:22,517 Ross. 933 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:25,931 -It's like a New York actor with the turtleneck. 934 00:40:26,034 --> 00:40:27,793 -Yeah, it's a very dramatic cone. 935 00:40:27,896 --> 00:40:29,965 Oh, my God, this cone has so many feelings 936 00:40:30,068 --> 00:40:32,689 it wants to tell me about, oh, my gosh. 937 00:40:32,793 --> 00:40:34,241 Uh... 938 00:40:34,344 --> 00:40:36,172 I want to thank everyone for watching "Talking Dead." 939 00:40:36,275 --> 00:40:37,310 This has been so much fun. 940 00:40:37,413 --> 00:40:38,793 My guests have been Deborah Joy Winans, 941 00:40:38,896 --> 00:40:41,034 Khary Payton, and Ross Marquand. 942 00:40:41,137 --> 00:40:42,689 Next week, we're gonna be joined by Father Gabriel himself 943 00:40:42,793 --> 00:40:44,965 and some very special guests you won't want to miss. 944 00:40:45,068 --> 00:40:47,310 Please stay safe and take care of each other out there. 945 00:40:47,413 --> 00:40:48,896 I am Chris Hardwick. Good night. 946 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,172 See you next time. 947 00:40:50,275 --> 00:40:56,000 ♪ 948 00:40:56,103 --> 00:41:01,931 ♪