1 00:00:01,171 --> 00:00:03,758 -Tonight, we have an epic "Talking Dead," covering both 2 00:00:03,793 --> 00:00:05,309 the midseason finale of "Fear The Walking Dead" 3 00:00:05,344 --> 00:00:06,309 and the series finale of 4 00:00:06,344 --> 00:00:07,517 "The Walking Dead: World Beyond." 5 00:00:07,551 --> 00:00:08,654 Plus, later in the show, 6 00:00:08,689 --> 00:00:10,067 we're gonna have a surprise guest 7 00:00:10,102 --> 00:00:12,102 and a very big announcement you won't want to miss. 8 00:00:12,137 --> 00:00:13,551 So on "Fear," we found out that not only did Alicia 9 00:00:13,586 --> 00:00:14,964 get bitten by a walker, 10 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,274 she may actually still be sick from it, 11 00:00:17,309 --> 00:00:18,896 and her reunion with Strand very quickly 12 00:00:18,931 --> 00:00:20,931 turned into a declaration of war. 13 00:00:20,964 --> 00:00:22,931 And over on "World Beyond," Huck sacrificed herself 14 00:00:22,964 --> 00:00:25,481 to destroy the gas meant for the Portland community. 15 00:00:25,516 --> 00:00:26,896 Elton got bit protecting Hope, 16 00:00:26,931 --> 00:00:29,274 while Silas infiltrated the ranks of the CRM, 17 00:00:29,309 --> 00:00:31,103 and Jadis proved once again 18 00:00:31,137 --> 00:00:33,481 she might actually be the ultimate survivor 19 00:00:33,517 --> 00:00:35,344 of the entire "Walking Dead" universe. 20 00:00:35,378 --> 00:00:37,689 But will Iris be able to warn the Portland community 21 00:00:37,723 --> 00:00:39,689 and thwart the CRM's evil plans, 22 00:00:39,723 --> 00:00:42,378 and are we looking at a "Fear" civil war? 23 00:00:42,412 --> 00:00:43,965 I hope you watched the post-credits scenes 24 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,551 on "World Beyond," because did we just see a faster 25 00:00:46,585 --> 00:00:48,758 and stronger walker of some type? 26 00:00:48,792 --> 00:00:50,000 So on the show tonight, 27 00:00:50,033 --> 00:00:51,448 we've got not one but two In Memoriams, 28 00:00:51,481 --> 00:00:53,517 plus an exclusive sneak peek of "The Walking Dead," 29 00:00:53,551 --> 00:00:56,103 which returns to AMC Sunday, February 20th. 30 00:00:56,137 --> 00:00:58,240 My guests tonight are Lennie James, AKA Morgan, 31 00:00:58,274 --> 00:01:00,585 Pollyanna McIntosh, who of course you know is Jadis, 32 00:01:00,619 --> 00:01:02,724 executive producers Ian Goldberg and Matt Negrete, 33 00:01:02,758 --> 00:01:04,724 and later, we will be joined 34 00:01:04,757 --> 00:01:07,516 by an amazing surprise guest that you will not want to miss. 35 00:01:07,551 --> 00:01:10,551 I am Chris Hardwick, and this is "Talking Dead." 36 00:01:10,585 --> 00:01:13,379 [Cheers and applause] 37 00:01:13,412 --> 00:01:22,965 ♪ 38 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,724 Hello. 39 00:01:25,757 --> 00:01:27,551 "Talking Dead" water. 40 00:01:27,585 --> 00:01:29,930 [Cheers and applause continue] 41 00:01:29,965 --> 00:01:31,481 When host Chris Hardwick hydrates, 42 00:01:31,516 --> 00:01:34,930 he drinks "Talking Dead" water, not available in stores. 43 00:01:34,965 --> 00:01:36,103 The conversation is just beginning. 44 00:01:36,137 --> 00:01:38,137 We want to hear from you. 45 00:01:38,171 --> 00:01:40,516 Please tweet us, hit us up on Instagram, @AMCTalkingDead, 46 00:01:40,551 --> 00:01:41,723 or go to "Talking Dead"'s Facebook page. 47 00:01:41,758 --> 00:01:42,965 Please say hello to my guests, 48 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,688 Lennie James, Pollyanna McIntosh, 49 00:01:44,723 --> 00:01:47,171 Ian Goldberg, Matt Negrete, who -- 50 00:01:47,206 --> 00:01:49,137 There he is. Popped up on the screen there. 51 00:01:49,171 --> 00:01:51,481 [Cheers and applause] 52 00:01:51,516 --> 00:01:52,688 So... -Hello. 53 00:01:52,723 --> 00:01:54,067 -We -- We have a lot to cover in this show, 54 00:01:54,103 --> 00:01:55,206 so I just want to get right into it. 55 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,965 Lennie, "Fear" this season has been, like, one long, 56 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,930 mega-apocalyptic action movie. 57 00:02:00,965 --> 00:02:02,688 What has it been like for you? 58 00:02:02,724 --> 00:02:05,102 -It's been like being in one long action movie. 59 00:02:05,137 --> 00:02:06,343 [Laughter] 60 00:02:06,379 --> 00:02:07,724 But it really has. 61 00:02:07,757 --> 00:02:10,137 It's been -- It's -- Each time you open the script, 62 00:02:10,171 --> 00:02:11,723 you're like, "What are they gonna get me -- 63 00:02:11,758 --> 00:02:13,516 Have me doing now?" -Right. 64 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:18,586 -And, you know, ginning up a post-apocalyptic car, 65 00:02:18,620 --> 00:02:23,068 a Pinto, and jumping in and out of submarines 66 00:02:23,103 --> 00:02:25,965 and riding and running and jumping. 67 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,378 It's been crazy. 68 00:02:27,413 --> 00:02:29,723 -And so what does it mean to Morgan 69 00:02:29,758 --> 00:02:31,931 now that Alicia has been bitten 70 00:02:31,965 --> 00:02:33,516 and we see what she's been through? 71 00:02:33,550 --> 00:02:37,896 She might still have some lingering thing going on. 72 00:02:37,930 --> 00:02:40,930 -Morgan's frightened of very little, 73 00:02:40,965 --> 00:02:42,723 but I think the two things 74 00:02:42,758 --> 00:02:46,343 he's learned that he's very frightened of is 75 00:02:46,378 --> 00:02:50,137 losing Alicia and losing Grace and Mo. 76 00:02:50,171 --> 00:02:52,413 And those are the things he's been fighting for. 77 00:02:52,448 --> 00:02:55,000 I think, you know, Morgan's been fighting for a future 78 00:02:55,033 --> 00:02:57,000 for the people that he loves, 79 00:02:57,033 --> 00:02:58,965 even though he might not be a part of it. 80 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,343 -Right. 81 00:03:00,378 --> 00:03:03,000 -And -- And that -- The thing that he's been banking on 82 00:03:03,033 --> 00:03:04,516 is that Alicia was gonna be there 83 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:07,240 to lead them beyond him doing his Moses bit. 84 00:03:07,275 --> 00:03:08,655 -Right. 85 00:03:08,688 --> 00:03:11,103 -And -- And the fact that she's been bitten 86 00:03:11,137 --> 00:03:13,103 and the fact that -- that he might lose her, 87 00:03:13,137 --> 00:03:16,033 I think it genuinely scares him to his bones. 88 00:03:16,068 --> 00:03:18,481 -So, Ian, let's talk about the fact 89 00:03:18,516 --> 00:03:20,103 that Alicia has been bitten. 90 00:03:20,137 --> 00:03:21,378 It didn't kill her. 91 00:03:21,413 --> 00:03:24,137 Is there anything that you can say about the bite? 92 00:03:24,171 --> 00:03:26,137 Does she still have whatever this thing is? 93 00:03:26,171 --> 00:03:27,550 Or what -- what can you -- 94 00:03:27,586 --> 00:03:29,171 what can you -- what are you allowed to say? 95 00:03:29,205 --> 00:03:30,931 We are willing to say? 96 00:03:30,965 --> 00:03:33,481 -Very little, of course. 97 00:03:33,516 --> 00:03:34,793 [Laughter] 98 00:03:34,826 --> 00:03:37,688 No, I mean, I think what's -- what's exciting 99 00:03:37,723 --> 00:03:39,516 and -- and interesting about it all 100 00:03:39,550 --> 00:03:42,310 is that what Alicia is grappling with 101 00:03:42,343 --> 00:03:44,930 is something that's sort of unique in the universe 102 00:03:44,965 --> 00:03:47,310 in the sense that we've seen people get bit 103 00:03:47,343 --> 00:03:49,067 and sadly succumb to the bites. 104 00:03:49,103 --> 00:03:50,930 We've seen people get bitten, 105 00:03:50,965 --> 00:03:53,550 chop off a limb, and survive and be okay, 106 00:03:53,586 --> 00:03:57,550 but Alicia is in this strange limbo where she -- she survived. 107 00:03:57,586 --> 00:03:58,723 It's a while later now. 108 00:03:58,758 --> 00:04:00,137 She's still going, 109 00:04:00,171 --> 00:04:02,965 but she's sick, she's still getting fevers, 110 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,931 and she's not certain why or what's -- what's wrong with her. 111 00:04:05,965 --> 00:04:08,343 It's sort of like a chronic condition 112 00:04:08,378 --> 00:04:11,516 that she's dealing with now, and she's uncertain about 113 00:04:11,550 --> 00:04:13,068 what -- what it is that she's got. 114 00:04:13,103 --> 00:04:15,931 It could just be sepsis, as Will says to her 115 00:04:15,965 --> 00:04:17,343 in the episode, or some other infection, 116 00:04:17,379 --> 00:04:19,103 but I think what's most interesting 117 00:04:19,137 --> 00:04:21,723 is that she has this kind of sword of Damocles 118 00:04:21,757 --> 00:04:24,343 hanging over her now where, you know, her -- 119 00:04:24,379 --> 00:04:26,343 her fevers could get her at any moment 120 00:04:26,379 --> 00:04:28,343 or she might come out the other side of it. 121 00:04:28,379 --> 00:04:30,757 And it just makes her live with this ticking clock 122 00:04:30,793 --> 00:04:32,550 and really just pushes her 123 00:04:32,586 --> 00:04:34,689 in a way that she's perhaps never even been pushed. 124 00:04:34,723 --> 00:04:36,033 -So we still don't know. 125 00:04:36,067 --> 00:04:37,550 It could be like -- could be like Will said, 126 00:04:37,586 --> 00:04:39,103 could be sepsis, could be some infection, 127 00:04:39,137 --> 00:04:42,481 or it could just be some new iteration of what -- 128 00:04:42,516 --> 00:04:43,723 of this thing. 129 00:04:43,757 --> 00:04:44,896 And we just don't know yet. 130 00:04:44,930 --> 00:04:46,103 I mean, you know, but, of course, 131 00:04:46,137 --> 00:04:49,033 you're not gonna say here on the show, damn it! 132 00:04:49,067 --> 00:04:50,723 Let's talk about -- Let's jump over and talk about 133 00:04:50,757 --> 00:04:52,103 "World Beyond" really quickly. 134 00:04:52,137 --> 00:04:53,930 This is from SusansSymphony on Twitter. 135 00:04:53,965 --> 00:04:55,516 "I'm so sad the series has come to an end. 136 00:04:55,550 --> 00:04:56,896 I've fallen in love with these characters," 137 00:04:56,930 --> 00:04:58,965 and AnthonyRogueOne says, 138 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,172 "I want there to be a season three of 'World Beyond.' 139 00:05:01,206 --> 00:05:02,793 It was so damn good." 140 00:05:02,826 --> 00:05:06,172 Matt Negrete, congratulations on your two-season arc 141 00:05:06,206 --> 00:05:08,689 of "The Walking Dead: World Beyond." 142 00:05:08,723 --> 00:05:10,964 -Thank you. Thank you. 143 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,964 -It seems it really is kind of serving the function 144 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,103 of -- of setting up some things 145 00:05:16,137 --> 00:05:18,930 for the "Walking Dead" universe as a whole. 146 00:05:18,964 --> 00:05:21,516 It's planted some seeds for some things that 147 00:05:21,550 --> 00:05:23,516 I assume will -- will come out later, 148 00:05:23,550 --> 00:05:27,310 but none of these four leads became villains. 149 00:05:27,343 --> 00:05:29,516 And I really thought -- I thought there was gonna be 150 00:05:29,550 --> 00:05:31,550 some-someone kind of turning before the end. 151 00:05:31,586 --> 00:05:34,274 Was that always part of the plan? 152 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:36,137 -Yeah. You know, it's -- it's funny. 153 00:05:36,172 --> 00:05:39,137 When Scott and I first started talking about 154 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:41,757 what we wanted the show to be, it really was talking about 155 00:05:41,793 --> 00:05:43,550 the idea that some of these characters 156 00:05:43,586 --> 00:05:46,965 could become heroes and some could become villains, 157 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,757 and, you know, I'll say that there was definitely a villain 158 00:05:49,793 --> 00:05:51,757 who became a hero in Huck. 159 00:05:51,793 --> 00:05:54,067 But I wouldn't necessarily say 160 00:05:54,103 --> 00:05:57,965 that they're all on the path to being heroes. 161 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:58,965 You know, it's interesting. 162 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,033 With Silas, I think 163 00:06:00,067 --> 00:06:01,172 he's a little different than the others. 164 00:06:01,206 --> 00:06:04,103 He's alone, he's in his own place, 165 00:06:04,137 --> 00:06:05,826 and he definitely wants to be a hero. 166 00:06:05,862 --> 00:06:08,964 But he's essentially gone undercover in the CRM 167 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,757 to try to get word to the right people 168 00:06:10,793 --> 00:06:13,964 about what the military's done, but Jadis is on to him. 169 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,137 You know, she is very smart, as we've seen, 170 00:06:17,172 --> 00:06:19,964 and she's very cunning 171 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,550 and she can be very manipulative. 172 00:06:21,586 --> 00:06:24,930 And I think in a lot of ways, Jadis gets what she wants, 173 00:06:24,964 --> 00:06:26,550 and so when we see Silas at the end there, 174 00:06:26,586 --> 00:06:28,343 when he's got his full uniform on 175 00:06:28,379 --> 00:06:31,964 and he flips his helmet down, he's in full-on soldier mode. 176 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,137 But we don't know where his true a-alliance 177 00:06:35,172 --> 00:06:37,793 or his true allegiance really is, 178 00:06:37,826 --> 00:06:39,757 so that, I would say, is a little bit 179 00:06:39,793 --> 00:06:41,343 it remains to be seen. 180 00:06:41,379 --> 00:06:42,965 So is he gonna be a hero? 181 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Is he gonna be a villain? 182 00:06:44,033 --> 00:06:45,172 And that's, to me, at least, 183 00:06:45,206 --> 00:06:47,379 a question mark hanging over his fate. 184 00:06:47,413 --> 00:06:49,550 -Yeah, and a-all these different "Walking Dead" shows 185 00:06:49,586 --> 00:06:50,965 are essentially just different chapters 186 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,516 in this kind of overarching story 187 00:06:52,550 --> 00:06:54,206 of like what's happening in this world, 188 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,826 what's happening in this universe. 189 00:06:55,862 --> 00:06:57,896 And it seems like there's still a lot of stories left to tell, 190 00:06:57,930 --> 00:07:00,310 but in the -- in the little bit of time that we have left 191 00:07:00,343 --> 00:07:02,930 before we have to jump to commercial, Jadis reactions. 192 00:07:02,964 --> 00:07:04,550 It's so wonderful to see you in person. 193 00:07:04,586 --> 00:07:06,274 Congratulations on coming back to the show. 194 00:07:06,310 --> 00:07:08,137 -Thank you. -You were fantastic, Pollyanna. 195 00:07:08,172 --> 00:07:11,343 -Thank you. -SkymiiboTWD on Twitter says, 196 00:07:11,379 --> 00:07:12,964 "Jadis has now become one of my favorite 197 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,550 'Walking Dead' universe characters to ever exist. 198 00:07:14,586 --> 00:07:16,586 Pollyanna portrays her absolutely perfectly. 199 00:07:16,620 --> 00:07:18,033 No one could do it like she does." 200 00:07:18,067 --> 00:07:20,586 Mariannerox1 says, "Jadis is killing it. 201 00:07:20,620 --> 00:07:21,757 Love the crossover from 'The Walking Dead.' 202 00:07:21,793 --> 00:07:22,964 Pollyanna McIntosh rocks," 203 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,723 And from CosplayCraziness, "Pollyanna, 204 00:07:25,757 --> 00:07:27,550 what were your thoughts when you saw yourself 205 00:07:27,586 --> 00:07:29,103 in the new CRM outfit?" 206 00:07:29,137 --> 00:07:31,964 This new iteration of Jadis? 207 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,343 -Yeah. Dun dun dun. 208 00:07:33,379 --> 00:07:35,723 I mean, what incredible costuming 209 00:07:35,757 --> 00:07:37,137 they did -- they did with these characters 210 00:07:37,172 --> 00:07:39,550 and for this wor-- this world that we're in, 211 00:07:39,586 --> 00:07:42,723 and for me, it was like just bloody hot, 212 00:07:42,757 --> 00:07:44,206 really, really boiling. 213 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,723 And trying to go for a pee on set was a whole thing 214 00:07:47,757 --> 00:07:49,757 because there's so many layers, 215 00:07:49,793 --> 00:07:51,757 but that's because they made it so well. 216 00:07:51,793 --> 00:07:53,550 And, you know, it worked, so, it looks so good. 217 00:07:53,586 --> 00:07:55,379 But that's scuba -- it's scuba fabric, you know, 218 00:07:55,413 --> 00:07:57,172 and it's ridged scuba fabric. 219 00:07:57,206 --> 00:08:02,343 So it's like having five or six wet suits on at the same time. 220 00:08:02,379 --> 00:08:03,964 But it looked great, so who cares? 221 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,482 And it was really interesting, as well, 222 00:08:06,516 --> 00:08:08,964 like, getting into the suit, the layers coming on. 223 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,723 It started for me with the hair. 224 00:08:10,757 --> 00:08:13,172 I wanted to give you all another lovely haircut 225 00:08:13,206 --> 00:08:15,964 that you could all enjoy how awful I looked. 226 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,000 -It was amazing. Honestly amazing. 227 00:08:19,033 --> 00:08:21,274 -So I asked for a shave, you know, 228 00:08:21,310 --> 00:08:24,137 to go around the side for the military element, 229 00:08:24,172 --> 00:08:26,964 and then a sort of nod to Joan of Arc, as well, 230 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,310 because Jadis really thinks she's doing the right thing. 231 00:08:29,343 --> 00:08:34,379 And, you know, it worked out, and together in the CRM uniform, 232 00:08:34,413 --> 00:08:36,895 just thought, "Here we go. Crossing over." 233 00:08:36,931 --> 00:08:37,931 -It was perfect, 234 00:08:37,965 --> 00:08:39,517 and there's so much more to talk about 235 00:08:39,551 --> 00:08:42,067 and just talk about Jadis' evolution 236 00:08:42,102 --> 00:08:44,793 throughout "The Walking Dead" universe. 237 00:08:44,826 --> 00:08:46,344 But coming up, we're gonna have a sneak peek 238 00:08:46,379 --> 00:08:48,102 of "The Walking Dead" when it comes back in February, 239 00:08:48,136 --> 00:08:49,309 we're gonna talk about the post-credits scene 240 00:08:49,344 --> 00:08:50,551 in "World Beyond," 241 00:08:50,586 --> 00:08:52,136 and the surprise guest and the big announcement. 242 00:08:52,172 --> 00:08:54,344 But first, before you jump off a cliff 243 00:08:54,379 --> 00:08:56,136 rather than talk to an old friend, 244 00:08:56,172 --> 00:08:58,000 let's slow things down and say a final farewell 245 00:08:58,033 --> 00:09:00,826 to all those we've lost tonight on "Fear the Walking Dead." 246 00:09:00,861 --> 00:09:04,724 ♪ 247 00:09:04,758 --> 00:09:05,724 [Walkers growling] 248 00:09:05,758 --> 00:09:15,724 ♪ 249 00:09:15,758 --> 00:09:25,724 ♪ 250 00:09:25,758 --> 00:09:35,724 ♪ 251 00:09:35,758 --> 00:09:45,688 ♪ 252 00:09:45,724 --> 00:09:55,724 ♪ 253 00:09:55,758 --> 00:10:05,724 ♪ 254 00:10:05,758 --> 00:10:15,724 ♪ 255 00:10:15,758 --> 00:10:25,724 ♪ 256 00:10:25,758 --> 00:10:29,136 ♪ 257 00:10:31,033 --> 00:10:36,067 ♪ 258 00:10:36,102 --> 00:10:37,517 -This whole first half of the season, 259 00:10:37,551 --> 00:10:41,000 Strand has committed himself to keep Alicia away 260 00:10:41,033 --> 00:10:44,344 because he wanted to preserve the best parts of herself, 261 00:10:44,379 --> 00:10:45,965 and I think it starts to work on him 262 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,793 throughout the first half of the season. 263 00:10:47,826 --> 00:10:53,136 He finally admits it to himself, and so he seeks her out. 264 00:10:53,172 --> 00:10:56,136 And by then, it becomes a little too late. 265 00:10:56,172 --> 00:10:58,344 You know, he doesn't know what her journey has been, 266 00:10:58,379 --> 00:11:01,379 what she's had to do to survive, what has happened to her. 267 00:11:01,413 --> 00:11:03,379 He believes that, "Oh, there's a sign. 268 00:11:03,413 --> 00:11:05,000 It must have brought you here, 269 00:11:05,033 --> 00:11:06,724 and this is why we belong together. 270 00:11:06,758 --> 00:11:08,206 Can't you see?" 271 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,344 And now it looks like they're going to war, 272 00:11:11,379 --> 00:11:15,931 and that is not what either of them wanted to do 273 00:11:15,965 --> 00:11:18,965 but seems to be the only thing that they can do. 274 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,551 And neither one of them gonna back down. 275 00:11:21,586 --> 00:11:24,551 ♪ 276 00:11:24,586 --> 00:11:26,758 [Cheers and applause] 277 00:11:26,793 --> 00:11:28,136 -Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 278 00:11:28,172 --> 00:11:29,379 That was the amazing Colman Domingo 279 00:11:29,413 --> 00:11:31,517 on the pending war between Strand and Alicia. 280 00:11:31,551 --> 00:11:34,586 We're back with Lennie, Pollyanna, Ian, and Matt. 281 00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:37,000 Lennie, what was -- we talked about this a bit last week. 282 00:11:37,033 --> 00:11:39,136 Some of us were surprised that Morgan was the one 283 00:11:39,172 --> 00:11:41,172 who tried to poison Strand. 284 00:11:41,206 --> 00:11:43,551 We were pretty shocked. Were you? 285 00:11:43,586 --> 00:11:45,344 Did you feel like this was within the realm 286 00:11:45,379 --> 00:11:47,551 of what Morgan would do? 287 00:11:47,586 --> 00:11:49,551 -I did. I thought it was a really good example 288 00:11:49,586 --> 00:11:52,965 of where Morgan is now and -- and how he shifted. 289 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,172 I mean, Morgan who walked out of Virginia 290 00:11:56,206 --> 00:11:58,551 would never have seen himself doing this about, 291 00:11:58,586 --> 00:12:00,724 you know, surreptitiously getting into someplace 292 00:12:00,758 --> 00:12:02,793 and trying to kill -- kill some-- 293 00:12:02,826 --> 00:12:04,965 cold-bloodedly kill somebody. -Yeah. 294 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,586 -Where he is now, where this world is now, 295 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:10,344 the level at which they've got to survive, 296 00:12:10,379 --> 00:12:12,344 and what he is now protecting, 297 00:12:12,379 --> 00:12:15,000 yeah, he wants him dead and he wants him dead with blue liquid. 298 00:12:15,033 --> 00:12:16,481 [Laughter] 299 00:12:16,517 --> 00:12:19,102 -It's got to be blue liquid. -It's got to be blue liquid. 300 00:12:19,136 --> 00:12:20,413 -It's so medieval. 301 00:12:20,447 --> 00:12:22,517 Like, he basically has a kingdom and a castle. 302 00:12:22,551 --> 00:12:23,826 -Yeah. 303 00:12:23,861 --> 00:12:25,067 -And there is an attempted poisoning. 304 00:12:25,102 --> 00:12:26,965 Like, it definitely -- -It's -- It's what -- 305 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,240 I loved it, as well. 306 00:12:28,274 --> 00:12:32,172 I loved kind of playing it because...I wanted it -- 307 00:12:32,206 --> 00:12:33,758 I wanted to play in a way 308 00:12:33,793 --> 00:12:35,551 that if you go back and watch the episode, 309 00:12:35,586 --> 00:12:37,309 you can see him putting it all together 310 00:12:37,344 --> 00:12:39,965 and deciding what he's doing and when he's gonna do it 311 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,413 and when he clocks the blue and how -- and how it happens. 312 00:12:43,447 --> 00:12:44,793 [Stammers] 313 00:12:44,826 --> 00:12:47,136 When we -- When I was working on it with the director, 314 00:12:47,172 --> 00:12:49,379 I was like, "Tell me when he does it. 315 00:12:49,413 --> 00:12:52,067 Tell me when he realizes it. Tell me when he makes the -- 316 00:12:52,102 --> 00:12:54,136 Let's decide when he makes the decision, 317 00:12:54,172 --> 00:12:55,724 and then let's bury it." 318 00:12:55,758 --> 00:12:58,586 And then you go back and you see it, you can see it. 319 00:12:58,620 --> 00:13:00,206 -So it is in there. -It's in there. 320 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,172 It really is in there. -That's really cool. 321 00:13:02,206 --> 00:13:05,136 And talking about Strand and Alicia 322 00:13:05,172 --> 00:13:07,344 and expanding this out, is this just a war between them, 323 00:13:07,379 --> 00:13:10,758 or is this expanding to a bigger thing that's about to happen? 324 00:13:10,793 --> 00:13:12,172 -It's expansive. 325 00:13:12,206 --> 00:13:14,309 I mean, they're -- they're at the core of it, 326 00:13:14,344 --> 00:13:15,724 and Morgan, you know, 327 00:13:15,758 --> 00:13:18,172 obviously falls on the Alicia side of that equation. 328 00:13:18,206 --> 00:13:21,000 But I think what we're excited about 329 00:13:21,033 --> 00:13:23,758 and what we'll see in the second half of the season 330 00:13:23,793 --> 00:13:27,344 is where the battle lines get drawn in surprising ways, 331 00:13:27,379 --> 00:13:29,758 both the people that are inside Strand's tower 332 00:13:29,793 --> 00:13:33,758 and those on the outside, and war and the prospect of it 333 00:13:33,793 --> 00:13:36,206 and what people stand to gain and lose 334 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,586 creates some surprising decisions. 335 00:13:38,620 --> 00:13:41,344 And I won't say anything beyond that, 336 00:13:41,379 --> 00:13:44,965 but it -- it does go well beyond Alicia and Strand. 337 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,136 -And I think your allegiance and your loyalties 338 00:13:48,172 --> 00:13:50,965 is a bit like Morgan ending up being the one 339 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,586 who's tried to poison -- poison Strand. 340 00:13:53,620 --> 00:13:55,172 It's gonna be tested. 341 00:13:55,206 --> 00:13:57,965 -Well, this idea of allegiances is so fluid, right? 342 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:04,586 Because Huck turns on Jadis the way Jadis turned on Rick. 343 00:14:04,620 --> 00:14:08,379 You know, so are there -- Is t-- Is his loyalty a thing? 344 00:14:08,413 --> 00:14:10,136 How did you -- How did you feel about that? 345 00:14:10,172 --> 00:14:11,586 I mean, obviously in her case, it's like, 346 00:14:11,620 --> 00:14:12,758 "Hey, I don't want it to be this way, 347 00:14:12,793 --> 00:14:14,758 but I got to preserve this overall thing." 348 00:14:14,793 --> 00:14:16,758 -Yeah, I think -- I think loyalty 349 00:14:16,793 --> 00:14:18,551 is -- is a massive theme of this universe, 350 00:14:18,586 --> 00:14:20,586 and I think it's a fascinating one to explore. 351 00:14:20,620 --> 00:14:22,965 I think what's so cool about the moment you mentioned 352 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,344 with Huck when she turns on Jadis, 353 00:14:25,379 --> 00:14:27,551 and that it is a bit of a callback, 354 00:14:27,586 --> 00:14:29,551 I feel like, to Jadis turning on Rick 355 00:14:29,586 --> 00:14:31,136 in -- in Alexandria. 356 00:14:31,172 --> 00:14:32,965 Matt's nodding away. 357 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,136 I didn't think of it at the time, 358 00:14:35,172 --> 00:14:36,379 but I think that's one of the, again, 359 00:14:36,413 --> 00:14:38,172 the great things about this universe is just 360 00:14:38,206 --> 00:14:40,172 there's -- there's always so many layers to everything. 361 00:14:40,206 --> 00:14:42,000 There's always something for the fans to look out for. 362 00:14:42,033 --> 00:14:44,033 You know, there's always something to be interpreted 363 00:14:44,067 --> 00:14:45,758 the way the fans want to interpret it, as well. 364 00:14:45,793 --> 00:14:48,826 I mean, for me, you know, Jadis turned on Rick 365 00:14:48,861 --> 00:14:50,344 because she needed to do that. 366 00:14:50,379 --> 00:14:52,102 She needed to do that for -- for her reasons 367 00:14:52,136 --> 00:14:54,965 and for her right reasons, in my opinion, 368 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,965 and -- and Huck in the same way 369 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,793 had to do it for -- for her people. 370 00:14:59,826 --> 00:15:02,344 So it's just there's no black and white good guys, 371 00:15:02,379 --> 00:15:03,379 bad guys in this world. 372 00:15:03,413 --> 00:15:04,965 You know, there's -- It's so layered, 373 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,274 and it makes me proud to be part of it. 374 00:15:06,309 --> 00:15:07,758 -It is, but there was that really magical moment 375 00:15:07,793 --> 00:15:10,136 during the arrest at the end where she said -- 376 00:15:10,172 --> 00:15:12,654 where she basically says, "Oh, there it is." 377 00:15:12,688 --> 00:15:15,379 It's really kind of about your, you know. 378 00:15:15,413 --> 00:15:19,206 -Yeah, but the colonel is also a, um, narcissist, as well. 379 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,309 [Laughter] 380 00:15:20,344 --> 00:15:24,136 -So it's not really right or wrong. 381 00:15:24,172 --> 00:15:29,102 Um, Matt, when Huck's husband talks about his CRM buddy, 382 00:15:29,136 --> 00:15:33,793 is this -- is this a "Fear" callback, a cross-reference? 383 00:15:33,826 --> 00:15:36,136 -Yeah, it 100% is that. 384 00:15:36,172 --> 00:15:37,965 Like, you know, I know we all remember, 385 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,793 I think it was Season 5 of "Fear," 386 00:15:39,826 --> 00:15:43,000 we learned that Beckett was a helicopter pilot for the CRM, 387 00:15:43,033 --> 00:15:45,586 and -- and he talked about this cabin 388 00:15:45,620 --> 00:15:47,586 that his family had in the Smokies. 389 00:15:47,620 --> 00:15:50,620 And, you know, we later went on to see that Isabelle killed him 390 00:15:50,654 --> 00:15:52,344 and then went on a relationship -- 391 00:15:52,379 --> 00:15:55,965 have a relationship with Al, but, like, long story short, 392 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,309 we really felt like it was important to show 393 00:15:58,344 --> 00:16:00,551 that there is this connectivity between the shows. 394 00:16:00,586 --> 00:16:02,102 It's all part of this one universe, 395 00:16:02,136 --> 00:16:05,344 and the CRM has had its hands in all three of the shows 396 00:16:05,379 --> 00:16:06,344 in some respect. 397 00:16:06,379 --> 00:16:08,379 And if you think about, 398 00:16:08,413 --> 00:16:10,379 you know, a character like Dennis, 399 00:16:10,413 --> 00:16:12,586 he goes back to the beginning of this year and he was a soldier, 400 00:16:12,620 --> 00:16:15,413 he would have probably crossed paths with with Beckett, 401 00:16:15,447 --> 00:16:18,206 and so it was a nice way to kind of show that, 402 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,517 yeah, all of these shows, while very separate 403 00:16:20,551 --> 00:16:23,000 in lot of ways, are also very much connected. 404 00:16:23,033 --> 00:16:25,172 -Well, coming up, we're gonna discuss the post-credit scene 405 00:16:25,206 --> 00:16:28,136 after "World Beyond" tonight featuring Dr. Jenner 406 00:16:28,172 --> 00:16:30,965 from way back in "The Walking Dead" Season 1. 407 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,379 We're gonna be joined by our surprise guest 408 00:16:32,413 --> 00:16:33,688 with a big announcement, 409 00:16:33,724 --> 00:16:35,931 but first, before you get that military bowl cut, 410 00:16:35,965 --> 00:16:37,965 let's slow things down and say a final farewell 411 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,344 to all those we've lost tonight on "World Beyond." 412 00:16:40,379 --> 00:16:41,965 [Laughter] 413 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:52,000 ♪ 414 00:16:52,033 --> 00:16:54,000 ♪ 415 00:17:02,067 --> 00:17:11,550 ♪ 416 00:17:11,586 --> 00:17:21,586 ♪ 417 00:17:21,619 --> 00:17:23,931 -I'm proud of you. 418 00:17:23,964 --> 00:17:25,586 You're the future, kid. 419 00:17:25,619 --> 00:17:27,136 Never forget that. 420 00:17:27,172 --> 00:17:37,103 ♪ 421 00:17:37,136 --> 00:17:44,481 ♪ 422 00:17:44,517 --> 00:17:46,378 -Don't carry this. 423 00:17:46,413 --> 00:17:48,172 ♪ 424 00:17:48,205 --> 00:17:51,792 And remember, no matter what they tell you... 425 00:17:51,826 --> 00:17:53,586 you're not one of them. 426 00:17:53,619 --> 00:17:55,619 ♪ 427 00:18:03,689 --> 00:18:13,619 ♪ 428 00:18:13,654 --> 00:18:23,654 ♪ 429 00:18:23,689 --> 00:18:33,654 ♪ 430 00:18:33,689 --> 00:18:37,378 ♪ 431 00:18:39,205 --> 00:18:42,103 ♪ 432 00:18:42,136 --> 00:18:44,103 [Cheers and applause] 433 00:18:44,136 --> 00:18:46,136 -Welcome back to "Talking Dead," 434 00:18:46,172 --> 00:18:48,103 and now it is time to reveal the surprise guest 435 00:18:48,136 --> 00:18:49,309 we've been teasing. 436 00:18:49,344 --> 00:18:52,964 Surprise guest, please be revealed! 437 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,378 Kim Dickens, ladies and gentlemen! 438 00:18:55,413 --> 00:18:56,723 Kim Dickens! 439 00:18:56,758 --> 00:18:58,792 [Cheers and applause] 440 00:18:58,826 --> 00:19:01,654 Kim...I imagine... 441 00:19:01,689 --> 00:19:05,000 Kim, since you're here, 442 00:19:05,034 --> 00:19:07,172 you might as well announce the thing. 443 00:19:07,205 --> 00:19:09,034 What's going on? 444 00:19:09,067 --> 00:19:11,586 -Well, I just wanted to say, um, Madison is back. 445 00:19:11,619 --> 00:19:12,723 -Yes! 446 00:19:12,758 --> 00:19:16,586 [Cheers and applause] 447 00:19:16,619 --> 00:19:18,205 Welcome back. 448 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,413 So, Madison is coming back to "Fear the Walking Dead." 449 00:19:21,448 --> 00:19:22,758 We can confirm this. 450 00:19:22,792 --> 00:19:24,378 -We can confirm it. She's alive. 451 00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:25,792 -I'm very glad to hear this, 452 00:19:25,826 --> 00:19:28,586 despite the fact that I feel like when Madison 453 00:19:28,619 --> 00:19:32,000 "supposedly" died on the show a few seasons ago, I was like, 454 00:19:32,034 --> 00:19:34,000 "Wait, so Madison's dead?" "Yep, she's dead." 455 00:19:34,034 --> 00:19:36,378 But no, she's not. Here she is. 456 00:19:36,413 --> 00:19:39,136 How long have you had this secret that you been keeping? 457 00:19:39,172 --> 00:19:45,378 -I-I've had the secret, I think, probably since this whole year. 458 00:19:45,413 --> 00:19:49,550 Like, the end of last year, I got a text from Colman, 459 00:19:49,586 --> 00:19:54,136 who was on set, and it said, "Girl, you need to call me." 460 00:19:54,172 --> 00:19:56,378 So I called him, and he was on set. 461 00:19:56,413 --> 00:19:57,826 I said, "Why? What's going on?" 462 00:19:57,862 --> 00:20:00,172 And he goes, "Well, someone's asking about you on set," 463 00:20:00,205 --> 00:20:01,792 and I was like, "Why are they asking about me?" 464 00:20:01,826 --> 00:20:04,826 So turns out they were sort of, you know, trying to gauge 465 00:20:04,862 --> 00:20:10,034 my temperature and sort of, you know, availability 466 00:20:10,067 --> 00:20:12,586 for a conversation with them, and I said, "Absolutely." 467 00:20:12,619 --> 00:20:14,309 So we all talked. 468 00:20:14,344 --> 00:20:18,448 Ian, Andrew, and Scott and I Zoomed early January, 469 00:20:18,481 --> 00:20:22,344 and -- and they gave me their pitch. 470 00:20:22,378 --> 00:20:25,344 And I was more excited than I even imagined I would be, 471 00:20:25,378 --> 00:20:27,826 so we've known for -- for almost the whole year. 472 00:20:27,862 --> 00:20:29,172 -Well, I am so -- I'm so glad, 473 00:20:29,205 --> 00:20:31,000 and it's so good that you didn't shoot, 474 00:20:31,034 --> 00:20:33,034 like, a close-up death scene for Madison seasons ago... 475 00:20:33,067 --> 00:20:34,103 -Yeah, me, too. 476 00:20:34,136 --> 00:20:36,344 -...that it was sort of open-ended. 477 00:20:36,378 --> 00:20:39,413 A lot of people since that happened have saying, 478 00:20:39,448 --> 00:20:41,517 you know, the fans are like, "Please bring Madison back. 479 00:20:41,550 --> 00:20:43,034 Please bring Madison back," 480 00:20:43,067 --> 00:20:46,550 so what went into this decision and how did you manifest it? 481 00:20:46,586 --> 00:20:49,344 -Well -- -You know, from from Day 1 of -- 482 00:20:49,378 --> 00:20:51,654 Kim, you do you want to go first? 483 00:20:51,689 --> 00:20:52,758 -I'm sorry. -No. 484 00:20:52,792 --> 00:20:54,103 -No, no, no, please. -Okay. 485 00:20:54,136 --> 00:20:56,309 -I'm not used to being a mystery guest. 486 00:20:56,344 --> 00:20:57,517 [Laughter] 487 00:20:57,550 --> 00:20:58,931 -You're not a mystery guest anymore. 488 00:20:58,964 --> 00:21:00,378 Now you're -- Now you're just -- Now you're the guest. 489 00:21:00,413 --> 00:21:03,378 Now you're our celebrity guest. Ian? 490 00:21:03,413 --> 00:21:07,205 -You know, from -- from Day 1 of the series, 491 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,034 Madison Clark has been the beating heart, 492 00:21:11,067 --> 00:21:13,550 lifeblood, emotional epicenter of this show. 493 00:21:13,586 --> 00:21:16,136 She's a warrior, a hero, 494 00:21:16,172 --> 00:21:20,034 and the way that the story went in Season 4, 495 00:21:20,067 --> 00:21:24,000 we always saw as the end of one chapter, 496 00:21:24,034 --> 00:21:26,964 a very important chapter in the Madison Clark story 497 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,517 and one that had huge ripple effects on the characters 498 00:21:30,550 --> 00:21:31,792 that survived her. 499 00:21:31,826 --> 00:21:34,172 And her influence continued to be felt 500 00:21:34,205 --> 00:21:37,619 in a very big way, even in her absence, 501 00:21:37,654 --> 00:21:40,172 and we always knew that while it was the end of that chapter, 502 00:21:40,205 --> 00:21:42,654 there was more to be written in the book of Madison Clark. 503 00:21:42,689 --> 00:21:45,034 And there were many more chapters that we wanted to tell, 504 00:21:45,067 --> 00:21:47,758 and it was about aligning the stars 505 00:21:47,792 --> 00:21:50,000 and making sure it was the right story 506 00:21:50,034 --> 00:21:54,000 at the right time to -- to honor the character 507 00:21:54,034 --> 00:21:56,792 and to bring her back in a way that was surprising 508 00:21:56,826 --> 00:21:58,172 and new and exciting. 509 00:21:58,205 --> 00:22:00,309 And we found the moment 510 00:22:00,344 --> 00:22:05,034 and honestly could not be more excited to have Kim back. 511 00:22:05,067 --> 00:22:06,723 -It's not a flashback, right? She's back back. 512 00:22:06,758 --> 00:22:08,586 -Oh, she's back. -Okay, good, good, good. 513 00:22:08,619 --> 00:22:10,586 Make sure you're not trying to pull a fast one on me, Ian! 514 00:22:10,619 --> 00:22:12,103 -No, I will not be coy here. 515 00:22:12,136 --> 00:22:14,792 -Because I'm very excited that Kim Dickens is back on the show. 516 00:22:14,826 --> 00:22:16,517 Lennie, what does it mean for you to have -- 517 00:22:16,550 --> 00:22:18,034 to have her back, to have Madison back? 518 00:22:18,067 --> 00:22:19,034 -I said this to Kim. 519 00:22:19,067 --> 00:22:20,517 It's like a tick on my bucket list 520 00:22:20,550 --> 00:22:22,034 because I get to work with her, 521 00:22:22,067 --> 00:22:26,205 because we -- when I came over from -- from "Walking Dead," 522 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,034 we didn't -- didn't get a chance to work together, 523 00:22:29,067 --> 00:22:31,172 and part of the thing I was excited about 524 00:22:31,205 --> 00:22:32,792 when coming over was working with Kim. 525 00:22:32,826 --> 00:22:36,792 So I get to do that now, so, um, I'm a happy fella. 526 00:22:36,826 --> 00:22:39,378 -Kim, thoughts on what has happened on "Fear" 527 00:22:39,413 --> 00:22:42,172 since Madison's absence? 528 00:22:42,205 --> 00:22:45,378 -Well, I was able to tune in in Season 7, 529 00:22:45,413 --> 00:22:48,172 and I just think it's -- it's gone epic beyond epic. 530 00:22:48,205 --> 00:22:50,172 It's incredible to watch. 531 00:22:50,205 --> 00:22:53,034 It's -- It's, like, visually stunning, 532 00:22:53,067 --> 00:22:55,586 and the work that everyone's doing 533 00:22:55,619 --> 00:22:57,586 is so exciting and impressive. 534 00:22:57,619 --> 00:22:59,378 And I watched it, and I was like, 535 00:22:59,413 --> 00:23:01,344 "Well, that looks like a show I'd really like to be on," 536 00:23:01,378 --> 00:23:03,586 so it's gonna be fun to go back 537 00:23:03,619 --> 00:23:05,378 and -- and work with all the new characters 538 00:23:05,413 --> 00:23:08,000 and -- and find out what's happened. 539 00:23:08,034 --> 00:23:09,378 And I don't know. 540 00:23:09,413 --> 00:23:10,792 I'm a little nervous 541 00:23:10,826 --> 00:23:13,378 about that war between two of my favorites. 542 00:23:13,413 --> 00:23:15,413 -Well, I'm just -- I'm so excited to have you back. 543 00:23:15,448 --> 00:23:17,964 Do you have any words for the fans 544 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,378 who for these last few years 545 00:23:19,413 --> 00:23:23,550 have kept "bring back Madison Clark" trending? 546 00:23:23,586 --> 00:23:25,205 -Yeah, I mean, in the last few years, 547 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,034 I've been able to seize a lot of that support online, 548 00:23:28,067 --> 00:23:30,172 and I just want those fans to know 549 00:23:30,205 --> 00:23:32,172 that it -- it's really meant the world to me, 550 00:23:32,205 --> 00:23:36,792 and I think it probably had -- made a significant impact 551 00:23:36,826 --> 00:23:38,586 on my being able to come back. 552 00:23:38,619 --> 00:23:40,586 But it really just warmed my heart 553 00:23:40,619 --> 00:23:42,964 that -- that they had such passion 554 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,172 for the show and for the character, 555 00:23:45,205 --> 00:23:47,240 and it's -- it's -- I just want to say thank you. 556 00:23:47,275 --> 00:23:49,586 -Is there anything you can tease about what we can expect 557 00:23:49,619 --> 00:23:52,378 from Madison's return? 558 00:23:52,413 --> 00:23:53,413 -[Chuckles] Come on. 559 00:23:53,448 --> 00:23:54,931 -I'm just trying! 560 00:23:54,964 --> 00:23:57,000 I always ask because I hope that someone, like, slips up 561 00:23:57,034 --> 00:23:58,550 and, you know, something comes out, 562 00:23:58,586 --> 00:23:59,826 but is there anything just -- 563 00:23:59,862 --> 00:24:01,172 -You want me to slip up? 564 00:24:01,205 --> 00:24:03,550 It's so much pressure. 565 00:24:03,586 --> 00:24:06,586 I think it's just -- it's like Madison 2.0. 566 00:24:06,619 --> 00:24:11,034 I mean, a lot has obviously probably happened to her, right? 567 00:24:11,067 --> 00:24:12,862 -Alright. -There'll be a lot to unload. 568 00:24:12,895 --> 00:24:14,172 -Okay, that's a good answer. That's a good -- That's -- 569 00:24:14,205 --> 00:24:15,172 That's the best we can expect. 570 00:24:15,205 --> 00:24:16,378 Can't give anything away, I know. 571 00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:17,378 I know I always ask. 572 00:24:17,413 --> 00:24:18,758 I apologize, but, Kim, 573 00:24:18,792 --> 00:24:21,378 I want to thank you so much for joining us. 574 00:24:21,413 --> 00:24:25,344 I'm excited to have you back on "Fear the Walking Dead," 575 00:24:25,378 --> 00:24:28,619 and I look forward to seeing you here in person next year. 576 00:24:28,654 --> 00:24:30,378 Thank you so much for your return, 577 00:24:30,413 --> 00:24:32,654 and thank you so much for joining us today. 578 00:24:32,689 --> 00:24:34,792 -It's been a blast. Thank you. I'm so happy to be back. 579 00:24:34,826 --> 00:24:36,309 -Great to see you. 580 00:24:36,344 --> 00:24:37,792 Please, a huge round of applause for Kim Dickens! 581 00:24:37,826 --> 00:24:43,413 Not a flashback...confirmed by Ian Goldberg right here. 582 00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:45,413 When we come back, we have a message from Scott Gimple 583 00:24:45,448 --> 00:24:48,136 about the post-credit scene from "World Beyond"'s season finale. 584 00:24:48,172 --> 00:24:50,654 We'll be right back on "Talking Dead." 585 00:24:50,689 --> 00:24:59,000 [Cheers and applause] 586 00:25:00,964 --> 00:25:08,689 -[Speaking French] 587 00:25:16,481 --> 00:25:20,172 [Gunshot] 588 00:25:20,205 --> 00:25:23,172 -I want to know more about these "variant cohorts" 589 00:25:23,205 --> 00:25:25,619 you referred to in our last communication. 590 00:25:25,654 --> 00:25:28,172 We haven't seen anything like that seen here at all, 591 00:25:28,205 --> 00:25:30,034 nothing close. 592 00:25:32,205 --> 00:25:36,619 I hope this finds you as well as you can be. 593 00:25:36,654 --> 00:25:38,619 I hope you don't lose faith. 594 00:25:38,654 --> 00:25:42,136 The day will come when we are going to beat this thing. 595 00:25:42,172 --> 00:25:44,413 At least, that's what the "other Dr. Jenner" 596 00:25:44,448 --> 00:25:46,448 keeps telling me.[Growling] 597 00:25:46,481 --> 00:25:49,034 And as you know, she's smarter than me. 598 00:25:49,067 --> 00:25:52,067 Solidarité. A bientôt. 599 00:25:55,034 --> 00:25:57,000 ♪ 600 00:26:05,067 --> 00:26:15,034 ♪ 601 00:26:15,067 --> 00:26:19,619 ♪ 602 00:26:19,654 --> 00:26:21,826 -Welcome back to "Talking Dead. 603 00:26:21,862 --> 00:26:24,034 That was a portion of the post-credits scene 604 00:26:24,067 --> 00:26:26,034 at the end of the "World Beyond" series finale, 605 00:26:26,067 --> 00:26:30,378 showing a very fast-moving and strong walker. 606 00:26:30,413 --> 00:26:33,172 Um, it's time now to read a statement from Scott M. Gimple 607 00:26:33,205 --> 00:26:34,172 about that coda. 608 00:26:34,205 --> 00:26:35,550 This is from Scott. 609 00:26:35,586 --> 00:26:38,000 "The coda after 'World Beyond' had everything to do 610 00:26:38,034 --> 00:26:39,792 with the past and future of 'The Walking Dead' universe. 611 00:26:39,826 --> 00:26:41,172 There is another big story 612 00:26:41,205 --> 00:26:43,000 that will be told relating to that scene, 613 00:26:43,034 --> 00:26:45,172 and we can't wait to start showing it to the world. 614 00:26:45,205 --> 00:26:47,172 The universe is unfolding, and to that end, 615 00:26:47,205 --> 00:26:49,378 hopefully, this is not the last we've seen of the characters 616 00:26:49,413 --> 00:26:51,205 from 'World Beyond' or of Jadis. 617 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,826 This is a big story, 618 00:26:52,862 --> 00:26:55,067 and in some ways, it's hopefully just starting. 619 00:26:55,103 --> 00:26:57,240 Big thanks Noah Emmerich, who played Dr. Jenner, 620 00:26:57,275 --> 00:26:59,586 for coming back in this world, 621 00:26:59,619 --> 00:27:01,758 and thank you to everybody who is taking this journey with us. 622 00:27:01,792 --> 00:27:03,550 It's going to go to some places 623 00:27:03,586 --> 00:27:05,826 and with some people you'd never expect." 624 00:27:05,862 --> 00:27:08,792 So that is -- uh, that is from Scott M. Gimple. 625 00:27:08,826 --> 00:27:10,619 Matt, is there anything that you want to add 626 00:27:10,654 --> 00:27:13,172 about the post-credit sequence? 627 00:27:13,205 --> 00:27:15,172 -Oh, uh, that's a great question. 628 00:27:15,205 --> 00:27:18,378 I'm probably gonna take a cue from the book of Mr. Gimple 629 00:27:18,413 --> 00:27:22,000 and -- and not be too specific in my answer, you know, 630 00:27:22,034 --> 00:27:24,826 but -- but I'll say that there's a lot packed into those -- 631 00:27:24,862 --> 00:27:26,240 those last five minutes. 632 00:27:26,275 --> 00:27:29,034 There's a lot of clues in there, so I would say 633 00:27:29,067 --> 00:27:30,205 if you've just seen that coda once, 634 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,413 you probably haven't gotten 635 00:27:31,448 --> 00:27:33,792 the whole -- the whole thing from it. 636 00:27:33,826 --> 00:27:36,758 So I would suggest watching it a few times. 637 00:27:36,792 --> 00:27:41,792 Turn on your closed captioning, open up your Google translator, 638 00:27:41,826 --> 00:27:43,792 and -- and see what you learn 639 00:27:43,826 --> 00:27:45,792 because there's -- like I said, there's a lot packed in there. 640 00:27:45,826 --> 00:27:49,517 -Excellent. So, this is fast-walker reactions. 641 00:27:49,550 --> 00:27:51,586 SherlockNorms on Twitter, 642 00:27:51,619 --> 00:27:54,378 "The post-credits scene in 'World Beyond' 643 00:27:54,413 --> 00:27:57,448 just changed 'The Walking Dead' universe forever." 644 00:27:57,481 --> 00:28:00,689 Muted Jack on Twitter says, "'World Beyond' just pulled 645 00:28:00,723 --> 00:28:02,448 'World War Z' the movie out of the bag. 646 00:28:02,481 --> 00:28:03,826 Damn! 647 00:28:03,862 --> 00:28:06,275 Guess the Americas have had it easy so far." 648 00:28:06,309 --> 00:28:08,964 But we had -- We did see early on in the series 649 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,172 of the first "Walking Dead" show, 650 00:28:11,205 --> 00:28:15,964 there were some walkers that had some motor skills, 651 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,758 although this is -- this is pretty fast-moving 652 00:28:17,792 --> 00:28:18,964 that we've seen here. 653 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,034 Lennie, with all of Morgan's fighting skills, 654 00:28:21,067 --> 00:28:24,964 is he ready for a fast-moving walker? 655 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,654 -I can't wait. 656 00:28:26,689 --> 00:28:28,136 [Laughter] 657 00:28:28,172 --> 00:28:29,758 I'm like, "Bring it on." 658 00:28:29,792 --> 00:28:32,413 I've been waiting for walkers to catch up... 659 00:28:32,448 --> 00:28:33,895 for years. 660 00:28:33,931 --> 00:28:36,448 I'm like, I stand there waiting for them to come, 661 00:28:36,481 --> 00:28:37,654 stick a stick out, 662 00:28:37,689 --> 00:28:39,619 wait for another one to come, back it in. 663 00:28:39,654 --> 00:28:42,172 -They -- They are shockingly -- -I want them running at me 664 00:28:42,205 --> 00:28:44,792 so I can swing and take them all out at speed. 665 00:28:44,826 --> 00:28:46,240 -They are shockingly fast 666 00:28:46,275 --> 00:28:48,586 because it's like they turn -- and, like, they don't -- 667 00:28:48,619 --> 00:28:50,723 we don't see them move fast, but it always happens 668 00:28:50,758 --> 00:28:52,792 on this show like, "I wiped them all out. 669 00:28:52,826 --> 00:28:55,034 Anyway, I think we should go. Aah!" 670 00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:57,000 And then like right there. Like, where did they come from?! 671 00:28:57,034 --> 00:28:59,205 -They only -- They only move fast when you're not looking. 672 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,758 -Yeah, when you're not looking. 673 00:29:00,792 --> 00:29:02,205 -But I can see them coming. 674 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,034 -They're like the Weeping Angels in "Doctor Who." 675 00:29:04,067 --> 00:29:05,413 They just, like, they move real fast 676 00:29:05,448 --> 00:29:06,826 when you're not looking at them, maybe. 677 00:29:06,862 --> 00:29:07,826 -I'm really looking forward 678 00:29:07,862 --> 00:29:10,619 to killing some fast-moving walkers. 679 00:29:10,654 --> 00:29:12,000 -This is from LawrenceBoydsMom1720 680 00:29:12,034 --> 00:29:13,205 on Instagram. 681 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Pollyanna, did Jadis save Rick because she cared 682 00:29:16,034 --> 00:29:18,205 or because she needed a way into the CRM? 683 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,826 I feel like she alluded to this in the last episode, but what -- 684 00:29:21,862 --> 00:29:23,862 -Can it not be both, guys? Can it not be both? 685 00:29:23,895 --> 00:29:25,378 -Can it be both? 686 00:29:25,413 --> 00:29:27,103 -I mean, she -- she -- she spent a lot of time with Rick. 687 00:29:27,136 --> 00:29:28,517 She has a lot of respect for him. 688 00:29:28,550 --> 00:29:31,413 She had a lot of -- lot of -- a lot of care for him, 689 00:29:31,448 --> 00:29:32,964 and -- and I feel it was 690 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,034 a genuine response to his situation. 691 00:29:35,067 --> 00:29:37,413 And then, "How am I gonna save him? 692 00:29:37,448 --> 00:29:40,172 How am I gonna get him on there? I'm gonna say this. 693 00:29:40,205 --> 00:29:41,862 This is how it's gonna work," you know, 694 00:29:41,895 --> 00:29:43,586 and I don't think she was thinking as far ahead 695 00:29:43,619 --> 00:29:45,205 as getting into the CRM. 696 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,034 I think she was thinking about getting out of there, 697 00:29:47,067 --> 00:29:48,344 getting to a safer place, 698 00:29:48,378 --> 00:29:51,205 and getting him to a safer place. 699 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,413 And then, like Jadis does, from that point forward, 700 00:29:55,448 --> 00:29:59,378 she has to, uh, keep doing what's right in her world view. 701 00:29:59,413 --> 00:30:01,136 -Yeah, I mean, she can do anything, really. 702 00:30:01,172 --> 00:30:02,792 She can infiltrate anywhere. 703 00:30:02,826 --> 00:30:05,448 She literally turned a junkyard into a home. 704 00:30:05,481 --> 00:30:08,826 Like, she's -- she's managed all these different groups. 705 00:30:08,862 --> 00:30:11,413 Like, she really is a formidable force in this universe, 706 00:30:11,448 --> 00:30:15,000 and it's been so fun to see her come back 707 00:30:15,034 --> 00:30:16,826 and, you know, join this other show 708 00:30:16,862 --> 00:30:18,619 and hopefully moving forward. 709 00:30:18,654 --> 00:30:23,619 Ian, what can you say about Al's whereabouts in "Fear"? 710 00:30:23,654 --> 00:30:31,172 -Well, the episode that we saw her in with Isabelle, 706, 711 00:30:31,205 --> 00:30:34,172 is the last time we're gonna see Al on "Fear" 712 00:30:34,205 --> 00:30:36,240 for the foreseeable future. 713 00:30:36,275 --> 00:30:40,413 We really wanted to give her that rarest of things 714 00:30:40,448 --> 00:30:44,034 in the "Walking Dead" universe, which is a-a happy ending, 715 00:30:44,067 --> 00:30:47,792 you know, so we got very excited and thought that, you know, 716 00:30:47,826 --> 00:30:49,862 we're just thrilled with how the episode turned out 717 00:30:49,895 --> 00:30:52,413 and her reunion with Isabelle, 718 00:30:52,448 --> 00:30:56,378 and then just sort of deciding to throw caution to the wind 719 00:30:56,413 --> 00:30:58,172 and embrace their love for each other 720 00:30:58,205 --> 00:31:01,378 and hit the -- hit the -- the wild blue yonder 721 00:31:01,413 --> 00:31:03,413 of whatever comes next. 722 00:31:03,448 --> 00:31:05,378 But they're out there, 723 00:31:05,413 --> 00:31:07,000 and we hope that there's more story. 724 00:31:07,034 --> 00:31:08,619 There ismore story to tell with them, 725 00:31:08,654 --> 00:31:11,034 and we hope that, uh, we get to see more of them. 726 00:31:11,067 --> 00:31:13,586 But for now, that's -- that's Al's goodbye. 727 00:31:13,619 --> 00:31:16,034 -Well, then as -- then, what we should absolutely do 728 00:31:16,067 --> 00:31:17,826 is have a huge hand for Maggie Grace. 729 00:31:17,862 --> 00:31:19,413 -Yes. Yes. 730 00:31:19,448 --> 00:31:21,619 -Phenomenal. 731 00:31:21,654 --> 00:31:24,448 And I do hope we get to see her again at some point. 732 00:31:24,481 --> 00:31:26,619 Pollyanna, what was the significance 733 00:31:26,654 --> 00:31:31,000 of Jadis taking the last name Stokes on "World Beyond"? 734 00:31:31,034 --> 00:31:34,826 -Well, Gabriel Stokes was someone who she did -- 735 00:31:34,862 --> 00:31:37,172 yeah, remember him? -Interesting. 736 00:31:37,205 --> 00:31:38,654 Yes, interesting. 737 00:31:38,689 --> 00:31:40,034 -Was someone who she had 738 00:31:40,067 --> 00:31:41,619 a genuine relationship with, I feel, 739 00:31:41,654 --> 00:31:44,413 and if she could have been a Mrs. anything, 740 00:31:44,448 --> 00:31:47,205 it would have been a Mrs. Gabriel Stokes, I believe. 741 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,205 But with Jadis, there's always a bit of wit and irony, 742 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,792 and I kind of giggled a bit when I saw that, as well, 743 00:31:51,826 --> 00:31:54,172 because her being a wife 744 00:31:54,205 --> 00:31:56,619 and settled at this point in her life, 745 00:31:56,654 --> 00:32:01,172 it would just not -- not Jadis at all anymore, you know? 746 00:32:01,205 --> 00:32:03,758 So it's part paying homage to him. 747 00:32:03,792 --> 00:32:05,205 It's part survival again 748 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,172 because she doesn't want to give anything away 749 00:32:07,205 --> 00:32:10,034 and tell anyone what her real anything is. 750 00:32:10,067 --> 00:32:11,448 And then I think there's a little bit 751 00:32:11,481 --> 00:32:14,240 of a reminder of like, you don't -- of the wit part 752 00:32:14,275 --> 00:32:16,205 of you don't get to do that anymore. 753 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,792 You don't get to settle down and be Mrs. anybody. 754 00:32:18,826 --> 00:32:20,448 You don't get to -- you know? 755 00:32:20,481 --> 00:32:21,862 -The thing I love so much -- 756 00:32:21,895 --> 00:32:24,034 One of the things I love so much about Jadis 757 00:32:24,067 --> 00:32:28,586 is how consistently efficient she is at taking what she needs. 758 00:32:28,619 --> 00:32:30,205 Like, the idea that we first 759 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,205 saw her kind of running this junkyard colony 760 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,344 and taking bits and pieces of what they needed, 761 00:32:35,378 --> 00:32:36,586 being able to -- 762 00:32:36,619 --> 00:32:38,205 and kind of scavenging and forming something, 763 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,205 that's what she has continue to do, 764 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,034 even with taking the names, taking the uniforms, 765 00:32:42,067 --> 00:32:43,172 taking the haircuts. 766 00:32:43,205 --> 00:32:44,826 -Yeah. Yeah. -That's what she's masterful at. 767 00:32:44,862 --> 00:32:47,481 -Taking the haircuts. -Taking the haircuts. 768 00:32:47,517 --> 00:32:48,964 Taking the haircuts. 769 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,034 Before we go to break, I do want to show you all this. 770 00:32:52,067 --> 00:32:55,378 This is the "Walking Dead" sherpa blanket, 771 00:32:55,413 --> 00:32:57,792 featuring Morgan and Strand, which I think this is 772 00:32:57,826 --> 00:32:59,034 one of my favorite artworks 773 00:32:59,067 --> 00:33:01,344 from the entire "Walking Dead universe," 774 00:33:01,378 --> 00:33:04,448 and you can go to TWDUShop.com to pick one up for yourself. 775 00:33:04,481 --> 00:33:07,000 It's very cozy! Look at this on the other side. 776 00:33:07,034 --> 00:33:09,103 Now it's winter. Oh, it's time for this! 777 00:33:09,136 --> 00:33:11,378 And of course, everyone in the studio audience 778 00:33:11,413 --> 00:33:14,034 will get one to take home with you. 779 00:33:14,067 --> 00:33:16,619 Coming up, we have the exclusive sneak peek 780 00:33:16,654 --> 00:33:18,619 of "The Walking Dead," which returns February 20th, 781 00:33:18,654 --> 00:33:19,895 I've been promising. 782 00:33:19,931 --> 00:33:21,619 We'll be right back. We'll see you in a minute. 783 00:33:21,654 --> 00:33:29,000 [Cheers and applause] 784 00:33:30,895 --> 00:33:36,689 ♪ 785 00:33:37,895 --> 00:33:39,586 -Hi, I'm Nate from Kansas, 786 00:33:39,619 --> 00:33:42,240 and I love the "Walking Dead" universe. 787 00:33:42,275 --> 00:33:43,826 I was diagnosed with high-functioning autism 788 00:33:43,862 --> 00:33:45,205 when I was 8 years old, 789 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,172 and I just will always love the show for, 790 00:33:48,205 --> 00:33:50,378 you know, supporting the idea of just diversity 791 00:33:50,413 --> 00:33:53,136 and bringing characters like Elton and Eugene. 792 00:33:53,172 --> 00:33:56,034 And my favorite character is Morgan Jones 793 00:33:56,067 --> 00:33:59,205 because I think Morgan is the definition of change 794 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,448 in the "Walking Dead" universe. 795 00:34:00,481 --> 00:34:02,826 He has changed and evolved and developed 796 00:34:02,862 --> 00:34:05,205 so many times in this universe, 797 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,689 more than any other character I've ever seen. 798 00:34:07,723 --> 00:34:09,206 I just want to thank everyone 799 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:11,378 who helped bring "The Walking Dead" to life, 800 00:34:11,413 --> 00:34:13,655 and I can't wait to see what happens next for Morgan 801 00:34:13,688 --> 00:34:15,793 in the "Walking Dead" universe. 802 00:34:15,827 --> 00:34:20,034 [Cheers and applause] 803 00:34:20,068 --> 00:34:21,240 -Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 804 00:34:21,275 --> 00:34:23,034 That was this week's featured fan, 805 00:34:23,068 --> 00:34:25,172 Nate Hawthorne, on what "The Walking Dead" means to him, 806 00:34:25,206 --> 00:34:27,034 and if you would like a chance to be featured 807 00:34:27,068 --> 00:34:29,619 on "Talking Dead" like Nate, send us a 30-second video 808 00:34:29,655 --> 00:34:31,206 of yourself explaining how "The Walking Dead" 809 00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:34,206 has impacted you at fansubmission@talkingdead.TV. 810 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,000 And now Nate is gonna ask a question via video, 811 00:34:36,034 --> 00:34:37,793 so let's roll it. 812 00:34:37,827 --> 00:34:39,757 -My question is for Lennie. 813 00:34:39,793 --> 00:34:41,619 Do you have a favorite moment 814 00:34:41,655 --> 00:34:44,413 from the episode you directed this season? 815 00:34:44,447 --> 00:34:46,000 -That is a great question. -Oh, wow. 816 00:34:46,034 --> 00:34:47,481 -That is a really fantastic question. 817 00:34:47,516 --> 00:34:48,862 -What a fantastic question. 818 00:34:48,896 --> 00:34:50,757 I am -- I actually -- I'm not -- 819 00:34:50,793 --> 00:34:53,619 am I allowed to say I directed two episodes this season? 820 00:34:53,655 --> 00:34:56,413 -As long as you don't spoil the second. 821 00:34:56,447 --> 00:34:58,413 -I guess you just can't say what your favorite moment is 822 00:34:58,447 --> 00:34:59,655 from the one that hasn't aired. 823 00:34:59,688 --> 00:35:01,172 -From the one that hasn't been out. 824 00:35:01,206 --> 00:35:05,172 There is the scene -- There's one scene that I -- 825 00:35:05,206 --> 00:35:10,447 I said I loved, which is it's the scene with Sherry 826 00:35:10,481 --> 00:35:15,827 and -- and Dwight around the table with Alicia's character, 827 00:35:15,862 --> 00:35:19,034 and -- and it's where he recognizes her 828 00:35:19,068 --> 00:35:22,034 as being the big wrestler in my episode. 829 00:35:22,068 --> 00:35:26,619 And -- And he just laughs his ass off, 830 00:35:26,655 --> 00:35:28,034 if you don't mind me saying that, 831 00:35:28,068 --> 00:35:30,240 and he acts like a 12-year-old boy. 832 00:35:30,275 --> 00:35:33,034 And it's not what Dwight usually gets to do. 833 00:35:33,068 --> 00:35:36,206 It's not what we normally see him doing, 834 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,413 and he -- and Austin, when he was doing it, 835 00:35:39,447 --> 00:35:41,793 exploded while he was doing it. 836 00:35:41,827 --> 00:35:44,378 And he was so full of joy, 837 00:35:44,413 --> 00:35:47,413 and -- and I had said to him -- my note to him was like, 838 00:35:47,447 --> 00:35:50,000 "You are a 12-year-old boy who's just met your hero." 839 00:35:50,034 --> 00:35:53,034 And that's what he did, and he did it to the nth degree, 840 00:35:53,068 --> 00:35:54,655 and it was just beautiful to watch. 841 00:35:54,688 --> 00:35:58,378 And it was lovely being in the room and seeing that happen, 842 00:35:58,413 --> 00:36:03,655 but for Dwight as a character, for us to see the joy in him, 843 00:36:03,688 --> 00:36:06,413 I just thought it was -- thought it was beautiful. 844 00:36:06,447 --> 00:36:08,447 And it was one of the moments I absolutely loved. 845 00:36:08,481 --> 00:36:11,172 -First, you directed the episode with Aisha Tyler. 846 00:36:11,206 --> 00:36:12,965 -I did. Yeah. -That was a great episode, 847 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,965 and the -- and the -- the wrestling, 848 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,619 like, all the wrestling moves. 849 00:36:16,655 --> 00:36:19,447 -And they kept the tune that I picked in "Welcome to Jamrock." 850 00:36:19,481 --> 00:36:22,206 They kept that in for the -- for the kind of sequence, 851 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,172 and I had thought that that's the, you know, 852 00:36:24,206 --> 00:36:27,000 her and, you know, her and her husband 853 00:36:27,034 --> 00:36:29,896 when they walked into the ring, that's the tune 854 00:36:29,931 --> 00:36:32,619 that they would -- would have playing, so -- 855 00:36:32,655 --> 00:36:34,655 and it was just it was a fun episode. 856 00:36:34,688 --> 00:36:36,206 It was a heartbreaking episode, 857 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,413 but it was also an episode that I love 858 00:36:38,447 --> 00:36:40,619 because it was one that fed into one of the things 859 00:36:40,655 --> 00:36:42,378 I think "Fear" does really well, 860 00:36:42,413 --> 00:36:44,827 which is to tell its love stories. 861 00:36:44,862 --> 00:36:49,034 And I think that this was a really good love-story episode 862 00:36:49,068 --> 00:36:52,619 because you had this sadness of Aisha's character's love story, 863 00:36:52,655 --> 00:36:56,447 but you also had the growing of Sherry and Dwight's love story 864 00:36:56,481 --> 00:37:01,655 and there being a new chapter and the birth of the Dark -- 865 00:37:01,688 --> 00:37:02,862 The Dark Horses. 866 00:37:02,896 --> 00:37:04,827 And it was a lot of fun to do, 867 00:37:04,862 --> 00:37:08,827 and it was great working with Christine and Austin and Aisha. 868 00:37:08,862 --> 00:37:12,413 -Matt, what went into the decision to have Elton 869 00:37:12,447 --> 00:37:15,827 get bitten in one of those last moments? 870 00:37:15,862 --> 00:37:19,034 -Yeah, it was -- it was interesting watching 871 00:37:19,068 --> 00:37:21,413 this episode of "Fear" this week. 872 00:37:21,447 --> 00:37:23,447 It's almost like there was a theme night of farewell -- 873 00:37:23,481 --> 00:37:25,585 farewell to arms, almost. 874 00:37:25,619 --> 00:37:28,206 Like, it was just interesting that they both lost -- 875 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,206 both lost their -- their left arms, 876 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,896 but, you know, I'll say for -- for Elton, 877 00:37:33,931 --> 00:37:36,000 it was really about cementing his arc 878 00:37:36,034 --> 00:37:38,413 for the season and for the series. 879 00:37:38,447 --> 00:37:42,034 You know, he started off as this observer of the world, 880 00:37:42,068 --> 00:37:43,378 and he was really more of a participant 881 00:37:43,413 --> 00:37:46,206 than he was a part of the world. 882 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:48,827 And, you know, ultimately, you know, 883 00:37:48,862 --> 00:37:51,206 he went through a lot with Hope, and he learned a lot 884 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:52,655 and he learned a lot through Asha, as well. 885 00:37:52,688 --> 00:37:58,619 And so it was really about him coming to the realization 886 00:37:58,655 --> 00:38:00,413 that it's not so much about the facts 887 00:38:00,447 --> 00:38:02,034 and knowing everything about the world. 888 00:38:02,068 --> 00:38:03,413 It's really about those little moments, 889 00:38:03,447 --> 00:38:06,034 how they stack up to a life, and really the fact 890 00:38:06,068 --> 00:38:08,275 that there is no beginning and there is no end. 891 00:38:08,309 --> 00:38:10,413 It's really about making the most of every -- 892 00:38:10,447 --> 00:38:14,413 every moment you have, and -- and so that was part of it. 893 00:38:14,447 --> 00:38:17,034 And also, I just -- I loved the idea of ending the series 894 00:38:17,068 --> 00:38:19,344 seeing Elton looking badass with one arm, so... 895 00:38:19,378 --> 00:38:20,896 -Well, before we go to break, 896 00:38:20,931 --> 00:38:22,827 I want to remind you to go to AMCPlus.com 897 00:38:22,862 --> 00:38:24,655 for early access to the shows you love. 898 00:38:24,688 --> 00:38:27,034 When we come back, we'll have that "Walking Dead" sneak peek. 899 00:38:27,068 --> 00:38:28,827 We'll be right back on "Talking Dead." 900 00:38:28,862 --> 00:38:31,896 [Cheers and applause] 901 00:38:31,931 --> 00:38:36,240 ♪ 902 00:38:38,103 --> 00:38:42,619 ♪ 903 00:38:42,655 --> 00:38:44,137 -Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 904 00:38:44,172 --> 00:38:46,172 It is now time for our exclusive sneak peek 905 00:38:46,206 --> 00:38:48,000 of the next episode of "The Walking Dead." 906 00:38:48,034 --> 00:38:50,034 Check it out. 907 00:38:50,068 --> 00:38:52,688 [Whistle blowing] 908 00:38:54,309 --> 00:38:57,206 ♪ 909 00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:58,206 -We need to get to the window! 910 00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,516 [Walker growling] 911 00:39:02,103 --> 00:39:09,309 ♪ 912 00:39:09,344 --> 00:39:12,034 If we could reach this, but it's too high. 913 00:39:12,068 --> 00:39:13,240 -No! [Screams] 914 00:39:13,275 --> 00:39:19,344 ♪ 915 00:39:19,378 --> 00:39:21,965 [Indistinct shouting] 916 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:29,965 ♪ 917 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,827 ♪ 918 00:39:34,862 --> 00:39:37,619 -Oh, come on! 919 00:39:37,655 --> 00:39:41,447 You know, people say if anything happens to Daryl, we riot. 920 00:39:41,481 --> 00:39:44,034 I think if anything happens to Judith, we riot. 921 00:39:44,068 --> 00:39:45,862 So we got to -- We got to -- 922 00:39:45,896 --> 00:39:48,068 We got to wait 'til February, but really quickly, 923 00:39:48,103 --> 00:39:50,619 Ian, what can you tease about Season 7 of "Fear" 924 00:39:50,655 --> 00:39:52,034 for the second part? 925 00:39:52,068 --> 00:39:53,827 -Well, now I can say 926 00:39:53,862 --> 00:39:55,827 we will be seeing the return of Kim Dickens 927 00:39:55,862 --> 00:39:57,206 as Madison Clark. 928 00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,000 -That must be nice to be able to say that. 929 00:39:59,034 --> 00:40:02,034 -Yeah, yeah, that's -- that's pretty exciting, 930 00:40:02,068 --> 00:40:05,793 and, of course, we also have what was promised 931 00:40:05,827 --> 00:40:07,413 at the end of 708, 932 00:40:07,447 --> 00:40:10,034 which is this impending civil war 933 00:40:10,068 --> 00:40:13,619 between Alicia and Morgan and Strand 934 00:40:13,655 --> 00:40:17,619 for -- for control of the tower and how all the battle lines 935 00:40:17,655 --> 00:40:20,655 will be drawn accordingly on both sides. 936 00:40:20,688 --> 00:40:22,827 So lots of lots of exciting stuff. 937 00:40:22,862 --> 00:40:24,172 -Well, we have less than a minute. 938 00:40:24,206 --> 00:40:26,827 I just want to say congratulations, Matt Negrete, 939 00:40:26,862 --> 00:40:29,068 on two seasons of "World Beyond." 940 00:40:29,103 --> 00:40:30,378 Fantastic job, and again, 941 00:40:30,413 --> 00:40:32,619 not a traditional series ending in the sense 942 00:40:32,655 --> 00:40:34,481 that it's a chapter in this larger universe. 943 00:40:34,516 --> 00:40:35,896 So great job. 944 00:40:35,931 --> 00:40:37,137 It's been so wonderful to get to know you, 945 00:40:37,172 --> 00:40:38,585 and thank you for everything. 946 00:40:38,619 --> 00:40:40,413 -Thank you so much. Yeah, no. 947 00:40:40,447 --> 00:40:42,619 Thank you, and thanks to the fans who watched the show. 948 00:40:42,655 --> 00:40:47,240 And I also want to say thank you to the cast, the crew, 949 00:40:47,275 --> 00:40:49,068 just everybody who made the show possible. 950 00:40:49,103 --> 00:40:50,896 It's been the hardest thing I've ever done 951 00:40:50,931 --> 00:40:53,862 but also the most rewarding, and I couldn't have done -- 952 00:40:53,896 --> 00:40:56,034 done it without everybody who played some part in it. 953 00:40:56,068 --> 00:40:57,655 So thank you, and I look forward 954 00:40:57,688 --> 00:41:00,034 to hopefully seeing these characters again 955 00:41:00,068 --> 00:41:02,172 in some iteration at some point in the future. 956 00:41:02,206 --> 00:41:03,827 -Thank you so much, and thank you to all my guests. 957 00:41:03,862 --> 00:41:05,068 Thank you for watching. 958 00:41:05,103 --> 00:41:07,206 Happy holidays, and I'll see you in February! 959 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,034 So much! So excited! 960 00:41:09,068 --> 00:41:12,206 Have a great everything! Bye-bye! 961 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:16,240 [Cheers and applause]