1 00:00:01,070 --> 00:00:03,036 -Hey, we hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving. 2 00:00:03,072 --> 00:00:04,073 It's really great to be back. 3 00:00:04,107 --> 00:00:05,971 Tonight, we have a mega "Talking Dead," 4 00:00:06,006 --> 00:00:07,144 covering both "Fear the Walking Dead" 5 00:00:07,179 --> 00:00:08,422 and "Walking Dead: World Beyond." 6 00:00:08,455 --> 00:00:10,285 So in "Fear," we get a close-up look at life 7 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,288 inside Strand's tower, just in time for it 8 00:00:13,323 --> 00:00:16,326 to be attacked by flying radioactive walkers. 9 00:00:16,361 --> 00:00:19,777 Strand took in Grace but exiled Morgan for trying to poison him. 10 00:00:19,812 --> 00:00:21,573 But then we got reunited with Alicia, 11 00:00:21,606 --> 00:00:23,539 but then it looks like those exploding walkers 12 00:00:23,574 --> 00:00:25,128 might be putting her safety in jeopardy, as well. 13 00:00:25,163 --> 00:00:26,785 But then, over on "World Beyond," 14 00:00:26,818 --> 00:00:29,995 Felix helped Leo and the group flea the CRM research facility. 15 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:31,652 Poor Percy was gunned down in the escape, 16 00:00:31,686 --> 00:00:34,137 and then Huck not only turned on the CRM, 17 00:00:34,171 --> 00:00:35,655 but also her protege 18 00:00:35,689 --> 00:00:38,003 and "Walking Dead" fan favorite, Jadis. 19 00:00:38,037 --> 00:00:40,729 So will they be able to destroy the gas canisters 20 00:00:40,764 --> 00:00:42,558 in time to save the Portland community? 21 00:00:42,594 --> 00:00:44,905 And then what's going to happen between Strand and Morgan 22 00:00:44,941 --> 00:00:46,838 now that Alicia's back in the picture? 23 00:00:46,874 --> 00:00:49,979 And what's up with Strand wanting to be baby Mo's father? 24 00:00:50,015 --> 00:00:51,085 I have so many questions. 25 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:52,292 On tonight's show, 26 00:00:52,328 --> 00:00:53,777 we have interviews with the cast and producers, 27 00:00:53,811 --> 00:00:56,365 not one, but two "In Memoriams," plus exclusive sneak peeks 28 00:00:56,401 --> 00:00:58,472 for next week's midseason finale of "Fear the Walking Dead" 29 00:00:58,506 --> 00:01:01,646 and the seriesfinale of "World Beyond." 30 00:01:01,682 --> 00:01:02,959 My guests tonight are Nico Tortorella, 31 00:01:02,993 --> 00:01:04,581 who plays Felix on "World Beyond," 32 00:01:04,615 --> 00:01:06,721 "Fear's" own Karen David, AKA Grace 33 00:01:06,756 --> 00:01:09,965 and actress and "Walking Dead" universe fan Deborah Joy Winans. 34 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,932 I am Chris Hardwick. 35 00:01:10,966 --> 00:01:13,106 This is "Talking Dead" live! 36 00:01:13,141 --> 00:01:15,108 [Cheers and applause] 37 00:01:15,144 --> 00:01:21,081 ♪ 38 00:01:21,114 --> 00:01:27,189 ♪ 39 00:01:27,224 --> 00:01:29,123 Hello. 40 00:01:29,158 --> 00:01:31,539 Alright, our conversation's just beginning. 41 00:01:31,573 --> 00:01:32,884 We want to hear from you. Tweet us, 42 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,990 hit us up on Instagram @AMCTalkingDead, 43 00:01:35,025 --> 00:01:36,957 or you can go over to "Talking Dead's" Facebook page. 44 00:01:36,992 --> 00:01:39,960 You can also go to twdu.com/deadlive 45 00:01:39,996 --> 00:01:41,756 to vote in our polls and make your voice heard, 46 00:01:41,790 --> 00:01:43,655 but for now, please say hello to my guests, 47 00:01:43,688 --> 00:01:45,277 Nico Tortorella, Karen David, 48 00:01:45,311 --> 00:01:48,141 and Deborah Joy Winans are all here. 49 00:01:48,176 --> 00:01:49,764 [Cheers and applause] 50 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:54,631 Alright. Well, nice to see you in person, everybody. 51 00:01:54,665 --> 00:01:55,805 It's so nice to be back. -Good to see you all. 52 00:01:55,838 --> 00:01:58,256 -Feels good. -Karen, what does it say 53 00:01:58,289 --> 00:02:01,775 about Grace that she's willing to work for Strand 54 00:02:01,811 --> 00:02:03,743 in order to save Morgan? 55 00:02:03,778 --> 00:02:07,161 -Grace will do anything it takes to keep the people 56 00:02:07,195 --> 00:02:10,716 that she loves and cares for safe, 57 00:02:10,751 --> 00:02:15,411 and if that means having to keep the enemy close, 58 00:02:15,444 --> 00:02:17,067 then that's going to be a wise move 59 00:02:17,102 --> 00:02:18,966 so she can keep an eye on him. 60 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,415 And if anyone knows how to navigate 61 00:02:20,449 --> 00:02:22,486 through this whole nuclear fallout, it's Grace. 62 00:02:22,521 --> 00:02:23,832 -Yeah. -Been there, done that. 63 00:02:23,866 --> 00:02:26,318 -Boring. -Now she's, you know, 64 00:02:26,353 --> 00:02:28,112 upped the game slightly a bit, so -- 65 00:02:28,147 --> 00:02:30,218 -Yeah, to her, it's just like, "Eh, whatever. Yawn. 66 00:02:30,252 --> 00:02:32,254 Eh, nuclear fallout." -Next? 67 00:02:32,289 --> 00:02:34,637 -Yeah. I do like that that's how they kind of navigate. 68 00:02:34,670 --> 00:02:36,569 They're like, "Eh, the wind's blowing that way today. 69 00:02:36,603 --> 00:02:37,915 Don't worry about it." 70 00:02:37,949 --> 00:02:40,366 Like, I would not go outside at all. 71 00:02:40,401 --> 00:02:43,093 -No, everyone needs a Grace in a nuclear fallout. 72 00:02:43,127 --> 00:02:44,646 -They really do. -I think they do, yes. [Laughs] 73 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,889 -But also Strand's transformation 74 00:02:46,925 --> 00:02:48,408 this season has really been amazing. 75 00:02:48,444 --> 00:02:51,100 What was your reaction to his whole persona, Nico? 76 00:02:51,135 --> 00:02:53,966 -I mean, just having a Colman episode is fantastic, 77 00:02:54,001 --> 00:02:56,728 but Strand is bringing big royal energy 78 00:02:56,762 --> 00:02:58,143 to the "Walking Dead" universe right now. 79 00:02:58,177 --> 00:02:59,454 It's like -- it almost seems like 80 00:02:59,489 --> 00:03:02,734 it's a "Bridgerton"/ "Walking Dead" crossover episode 81 00:03:02,768 --> 00:03:05,563 happening, but I'm here for it. 82 00:03:05,598 --> 00:03:07,151 That portrait scene, right? 83 00:03:07,187 --> 00:03:08,567 Like, that's where we're at. -It was amazing. 84 00:03:08,602 --> 00:03:10,741 -That's where Strand is at. -"She doesn't see me." 85 00:03:10,776 --> 00:03:12,399 "Whoa, what?" Yeah, off -- -Off the roof. 86 00:03:12,432 --> 00:03:13,778 -"Alright, bring it back. Bring it back." 87 00:03:13,813 --> 00:03:15,919 [Laughter] 88 00:03:15,954 --> 00:03:17,645 Actually, that's who -- that's who I thought -- 89 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:18,921 the whole episode, I was like, 90 00:03:18,956 --> 00:03:20,269 "Oh, the artist poisoned him 91 00:03:20,302 --> 00:03:22,580 'cause he threw her painting over the side," 92 00:03:22,615 --> 00:03:24,134 but then that didn't turn out to be the case. 93 00:03:24,169 --> 00:03:26,240 Well, let's see what you thought on the Internets. 94 00:03:26,275 --> 00:03:29,277 @DiscussingTWD on Twitter says, "Strand and Morgan have 95 00:03:29,312 --> 00:03:32,281 Rick and Negan vibes," and then @PolkaDotPlanet on Twitter 96 00:03:32,314 --> 00:03:35,663 says, "Victor is such a dic........tator." 97 00:03:35,698 --> 00:03:38,252 Nicely done. 98 00:03:38,287 --> 00:03:41,704 There were like nine dots in between "dic" and "tator." 99 00:03:41,737 --> 00:03:43,533 [Laughter] 100 00:03:43,567 --> 00:03:46,639 Gloriel Flores on Twitter says "The way Victor has been acting, 101 00:03:46,674 --> 00:03:48,883 it's not a question of who would poison it, but who wouldn't?" 102 00:03:48,918 --> 00:03:50,781 And then @baybayrose86 on Twitter says, 103 00:03:50,816 --> 00:03:52,542 "Oh, man, Strand is so complex. 104 00:03:52,576 --> 00:03:54,992 My heart just breaks for him." -Yeah. 105 00:03:55,026 --> 00:03:56,581 -But now it's time to see what everyone thought at home. 106 00:03:56,615 --> 00:03:58,824 We asked you on twdu.com/deadlive, 107 00:03:58,859 --> 00:04:01,241 how do you feel about this new Strand? 108 00:04:01,275 --> 00:04:03,794 You love him? He's over the top, and it's amazing to watch. 109 00:04:03,829 --> 00:04:05,485 He's finally embracing who he is. 110 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,937 Or loathe him? He's out of control, 111 00:04:07,971 --> 00:04:09,903 he's unhinged, and needs to be stopped. 112 00:04:09,938 --> 00:04:11,836 And while we're calculating, Deborah Joy, 113 00:04:11,872 --> 00:04:12,942 what do you think? 114 00:04:12,975 --> 00:04:14,875 It's kind of interesting to have -- 115 00:04:14,908 --> 00:04:16,565 like, normally, everyone's on one side, 116 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,050 but here, this is very... 117 00:04:18,084 --> 00:04:19,742 -You've got a whole room. -...roundtable. 118 00:04:19,776 --> 00:04:23,124 Now I'm shifting this way. Deborah Joy, what do you think? 119 00:04:23,158 --> 00:04:24,954 -I think I -- both. 120 00:04:24,987 --> 00:04:27,750 I love him because he is so incredible to watch, 121 00:04:27,783 --> 00:04:30,372 and this foolishness of a role. 122 00:04:30,408 --> 00:04:35,481 It's like you see this crazy man continuing to unfold 123 00:04:35,516 --> 00:04:37,966 and for seasons, because this is not new. 124 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,968 This is who he's always been. -Right. 125 00:04:40,002 --> 00:04:41,764 -So I love it, but I loathe it, too. 126 00:04:41,798 --> 00:04:43,386 Like, somebody needs to kill him. 127 00:04:43,420 --> 00:04:45,802 I'm mad Morgan didn't finish the job. 128 00:04:45,836 --> 00:04:48,459 -Well, you're watching someone who has always wanted to be 129 00:04:48,495 --> 00:04:50,254 in the position that he's in. -Yes. 130 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:51,738 -He's gotten what he's always wanted, 131 00:04:51,774 --> 00:04:53,776 and this -- like, this weird "Twilight Zone" episode 132 00:04:53,810 --> 00:04:56,812 where it's like he can't handle it because it's -- 133 00:04:56,848 --> 00:04:59,264 -So fragile. -I mean, he did survive 134 00:04:59,298 --> 00:05:03,406 a nuclear -- you know, the detonation of the nuclear bombs. 135 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,064 You know, he survived that. So he's invincible. 136 00:05:06,098 --> 00:05:07,927 He really feels that he's Superman right now. 137 00:05:07,961 --> 00:05:09,723 -But it's also -- he's also isolating himself 138 00:05:09,757 --> 00:05:11,345 'cause he can't trust anyone. 139 00:05:11,379 --> 00:05:12,483 He's just having that -- 'cause it is. 140 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:14,278 It does feel like -- 141 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:16,143 -Well, he can't trust anyone because he's constantly 142 00:05:16,177 --> 00:05:18,007 throwing somebody under the bus. 143 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,457 Morgan, the walkers. I was like, "Really, y'all?" 144 00:05:20,492 --> 00:05:23,529 -Sometimes literally throwing people under a bus. 145 00:05:23,564 --> 00:05:26,774 82% said loathe him. 18% percent said love him. 146 00:05:26,809 --> 00:05:29,432 It does really feel like those old British documentaries 147 00:05:29,466 --> 00:05:30,709 where they talk about, 148 00:05:30,744 --> 00:05:32,641 like, monarchies through the centuries, 149 00:05:32,677 --> 00:05:34,230 and they're like "In the medieval times, 150 00:05:34,264 --> 00:05:35,713 you could be king for like a year, 151 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:36,819 and then your brother killed you." 152 00:05:36,853 --> 00:05:38,268 You know, so -- -Or beheaded you. 153 00:05:38,302 --> 00:05:40,132 -Or -- yeah. So no one could ever trust anything, 154 00:05:40,167 --> 00:05:41,995 and that feels like he's kind of feeling like 155 00:05:42,031 --> 00:05:43,307 he can't trust anyone but himself. 156 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:44,930 But, Nico, what was your reaction 157 00:05:44,965 --> 00:05:47,485 to seeing baby Mo dangled down the elevator shaft? 158 00:05:47,519 --> 00:05:48,795 -Ugh. -Ooh. 159 00:05:48,831 --> 00:05:50,314 -I mean, immediate anxiety. -Yeah. 160 00:05:50,350 --> 00:05:52,420 -I've been working with babies a lot 161 00:05:52,454 --> 00:05:54,560 over the last few years on camera, 162 00:05:54,595 --> 00:05:56,803 and, I mean, just like holding a baby that's not yours 163 00:05:56,838 --> 00:05:57,908 is like, "Okay." 164 00:05:57,942 --> 00:05:59,944 Like, walking down a flight of stairs 165 00:05:59,980 --> 00:06:01,809 with a baby that's not -- like, on set, 166 00:06:01,843 --> 00:06:03,259 it's a totally different energy, right? 167 00:06:03,293 --> 00:06:04,225 -Oh, you can't -- yeah. 168 00:06:04,259 --> 00:06:05,641 And just seeing this baby just -- 169 00:06:05,675 --> 00:06:06,951 "Oh, we're just going to put the baby 170 00:06:06,987 --> 00:06:08,781 down the elevator shaft, okay?" Like, "What?" 171 00:06:08,815 --> 00:06:10,922 -My wife's having a baby in two months, 172 00:06:10,956 --> 00:06:12,302 and I feel I'm going to be like, 173 00:06:12,336 --> 00:06:13,406 "Am I holding this right? 174 00:06:13,442 --> 00:06:14,752 I don't know what I'm doing," you know? 175 00:06:14,788 --> 00:06:15,995 -Is this your first? -First, yeah. 176 00:06:16,029 --> 00:06:17,446 -Wow, congrats. -Yeah, thank you very much. 177 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,069 Yeah. So I understand the, like, "Everyone, you know, 178 00:06:21,103 --> 00:06:23,589 you got to be real careful," 179 00:06:23,624 --> 00:06:25,487 but seeing that on the show -- 180 00:06:25,523 --> 00:06:26,971 obviously, they took safety precautions... 181 00:06:27,007 --> 00:06:28,422 -Totally, yeah. -...but it was -- it was -- 182 00:06:28,456 --> 00:06:29,906 it was probably the most stressful for me. 183 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:32,425 Like, "Guhhh." -Oh, yeah. 184 00:06:32,461 --> 00:06:34,117 -Good thing Grace wasn't there. -Yes. 185 00:06:34,151 --> 00:06:35,704 -She would've lost her mind. 186 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:36,810 -No, she would not have been cool with that. 187 00:06:36,843 --> 00:06:39,432 -Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no no, no, no, no. 188 00:06:39,468 --> 00:06:41,055 -I hope they don't tell her in the next episode. 189 00:06:41,090 --> 00:06:42,816 [Laughter] 190 00:06:42,850 --> 00:06:44,437 "Don't worry about it. It's fine." 191 00:06:44,473 --> 00:06:46,302 Deborah Joy, were you surprised that Morgan 192 00:06:46,336 --> 00:06:49,167 even at all handed the baby over to a sick Strand? 193 00:06:49,201 --> 00:06:52,307 -Oh, absolutely. I was -- I was very shocked, 194 00:06:52,341 --> 00:06:53,999 but, you know, I love Morgan 195 00:06:54,033 --> 00:06:57,346 because he understands -- he reads every situation. 196 00:06:57,382 --> 00:06:58,935 He knows how to read the room. You know how some people 197 00:06:58,970 --> 00:07:00,074 just don't know how to read the room? 198 00:07:00,108 --> 00:07:01,937 -Right. -Morgan can read the room. 199 00:07:01,973 --> 00:07:06,701 And so he knew he had to take a step and give Strand something 200 00:07:06,735 --> 00:07:08,773 in order to -- to get what he needed back. 201 00:07:08,807 --> 00:07:10,601 You know what I mean? -I still was a little surprised. 202 00:07:10,637 --> 00:07:11,983 -I was, I was. -I was surprised 203 00:07:12,016 --> 00:07:13,536 that Morgan was the poisoner. 204 00:07:13,571 --> 00:07:14,882 I don't think he had a choice. though. 205 00:07:14,916 --> 00:07:17,264 -Oh, I was. I was. Being the poisoner? 206 00:07:17,298 --> 00:07:19,922 Oh, my God. Absolutely. I was completely shocked. 207 00:07:19,956 --> 00:07:21,268 I did not think it was him. 208 00:07:21,302 --> 00:07:23,476 I thought it was -- I thought it was his homeboy 209 00:07:23,512 --> 00:07:27,274 that's like his right-hand man, and I said, "Aw, shoot." 210 00:07:27,307 --> 00:07:31,139 When I saw Morgan's thumb, I said, "Aw, dang. Aw, snap." 211 00:07:31,173 --> 00:07:34,245 -Caught blue-handed. -"Caught blue-handed." 212 00:07:34,281 --> 00:07:36,593 Oh, Nico, genius. -But I get it. 213 00:07:36,627 --> 00:07:38,872 Like, I just had a baby... -Congrats. 214 00:07:38,906 --> 00:07:40,976 -...and, like, you will do anything for that child. 215 00:07:41,012 --> 00:07:42,115 -Congratulations. -You will do anything. 216 00:07:42,151 --> 00:07:44,428 -So much baby energy. -I literally look at my son, 217 00:07:44,463 --> 00:07:45,810 and I'm like, "Oh, it's too cold out. 218 00:07:45,843 --> 00:07:47,707 You need -- what do I need to do? 219 00:07:47,742 --> 00:07:48,778 Oh, I'mma be late. You know what? 220 00:07:48,812 --> 00:07:49,951 Never mind. I'm not coming." -Right. 221 00:07:49,985 --> 00:07:52,125 -'Cause you want to do anything for them. 222 00:07:52,161 --> 00:07:55,750 And so you get why Morgan did this whole situation. 223 00:07:55,784 --> 00:07:57,406 -You get it. -I totally understand. 224 00:07:57,442 --> 00:07:58,925 Well, coming up, we have interviews with the cast, 225 00:07:58,961 --> 00:08:00,790 plus exclusive sneak peeks of the mid-- 226 00:08:00,824 --> 00:08:03,516 of this week's midseason finale of "Fear the Walking Dead" 227 00:08:03,552 --> 00:08:05,795 and the series finale of "World Beyond." 228 00:08:05,829 --> 00:08:07,625 But first, before you give thanks 229 00:08:07,658 --> 00:08:09,730 that walkers can't really fly, 230 00:08:09,764 --> 00:08:11,629 let's slow things down and say a final farewell 231 00:08:11,663 --> 00:08:14,872 to all those we've lost on "Fear the Walking Dead" tonight. 232 00:08:14,908 --> 00:08:16,047 [Laughter] 233 00:08:16,081 --> 00:08:23,709 ♪ 234 00:08:23,744 --> 00:08:31,338 ♪ 235 00:08:31,372 --> 00:08:33,097 [Walker growling] 236 00:08:33,133 --> 00:08:42,106 ♪ 237 00:08:42,142 --> 00:08:50,908 ♪ 238 00:08:50,943 --> 00:08:59,711 ♪ 239 00:08:59,745 --> 00:09:08,581 ♪ 240 00:09:08,616 --> 00:09:17,452 ♪ 241 00:09:19,662 --> 00:09:24,597 ♪ 242 00:09:24,633 --> 00:09:26,566 -I love the character of Jadis. 243 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,878 I loved writing the character of Jadis in "The Walking Dead," 244 00:09:28,913 --> 00:09:30,777 and we had been talking for a while 245 00:09:30,811 --> 00:09:32,778 about bringing Pollyanna back. 246 00:09:32,812 --> 00:09:35,884 The idea of bringing Jadis back was also very much about 247 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:39,440 re-exploring a new version of a character that we'd met before. 248 00:09:39,475 --> 00:09:42,754 Jadis is someone who is very much a chameleon. 249 00:09:42,788 --> 00:09:45,999 She is able to adapt and become who she needs to be 250 00:09:46,033 --> 00:09:48,621 to fit her circumstances so she can survive, 251 00:09:48,657 --> 00:09:50,624 and we saw that on "Walking Dead" 252 00:09:50,658 --> 00:09:53,903 when she was the leader of this community in the junkyard, 253 00:09:53,937 --> 00:09:56,734 and because our show picks up six years 254 00:09:56,768 --> 00:10:01,323 after the events of her leaving with Rick in the helicopter, 255 00:10:01,359 --> 00:10:04,120 it really gave us a chance to see where she's at now, 256 00:10:04,154 --> 00:10:06,328 see how she's adapted and changed, 257 00:10:06,364 --> 00:10:09,918 and explore a new iteration of Jadis. 258 00:10:09,953 --> 00:10:12,783 And it was equally exciting to be able to pepper in some -- 259 00:10:12,818 --> 00:10:15,096 some details of, you know, what she's been up to 260 00:10:15,130 --> 00:10:18,100 and how she changed in the six years. 261 00:10:18,134 --> 00:10:19,928 [Applause] 262 00:10:21,759 --> 00:10:23,657 -Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 263 00:10:23,692 --> 00:10:25,072 We're back with Nico Tortorella, Karen David, 264 00:10:25,106 --> 00:10:27,246 and Deborah Joy Winans. 265 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,629 Nico, can you talk about what it was like having Pollyanna 266 00:10:29,663 --> 00:10:31,769 join "World Beyond" as Jadis? 267 00:10:31,802 --> 00:10:33,804 -Yeah, Pollyanna, such a force. 268 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,774 First of all, every show needs a solid bowl cut, right, 269 00:10:37,808 --> 00:10:40,432 and Polly kind of brought it through. 270 00:10:40,466 --> 00:10:44,884 No, it made -- honestly, it made "World Beyond" feel 271 00:10:44,919 --> 00:10:47,231 more like "The Walking Dead." -Right. 272 00:10:47,267 --> 00:10:49,614 -Right? I mean, she's such a staple in the universe 273 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:53,721 and brings such a legacy with her. 274 00:10:53,755 --> 00:10:57,241 And, like, the first season was pretty much 275 00:10:57,277 --> 00:11:00,486 just the six of us, like, running amok, right? 276 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,730 And the second season now feels like 277 00:11:02,764 --> 00:11:05,077 it's part of a much larger picture, 278 00:11:05,111 --> 00:11:06,562 and Pollyanna brings that maturity to the show 279 00:11:06,596 --> 00:11:08,288 that I think we really needed. 280 00:11:08,322 --> 00:11:10,082 -Obviously, there was a lot of friction 281 00:11:10,116 --> 00:11:13,258 between Felix and Huck, for obvious reasons. 282 00:11:13,293 --> 00:11:14,259 -I don't know what you're talking about. 283 00:11:14,293 --> 00:11:16,605 -Well, they had some issues. -Mm-hmm. 284 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,988 -But does any of that change -- 285 00:11:19,023 --> 00:11:23,958 what are Felix's feelings when Huck turns on Jadis? 286 00:11:23,993 --> 00:11:26,099 Is that redemption, do you think? 287 00:11:26,133 --> 00:11:27,789 -I mean, honestly, 288 00:11:27,825 --> 00:11:30,240 there's so much going on at this point 289 00:11:30,274 --> 00:11:33,105 that I don't think that Felix really... 290 00:11:33,139 --> 00:11:34,313 Let's just say this. 291 00:11:34,347 --> 00:11:37,419 -Huck is not Felix's main priority right now, 292 00:11:37,455 --> 00:11:41,251 and, in this standoff, 293 00:11:41,286 --> 00:11:43,599 Felix sees an opening and takes advantage of it. 294 00:11:43,633 --> 00:11:46,774 It could've been anyone in Huck's position, right? 295 00:11:46,808 --> 00:11:49,743 And, like, I wish we got to see more 296 00:11:49,778 --> 00:11:51,745 of the two of them together, 297 00:11:51,779 --> 00:11:53,677 but this is just kind of where they're at now, 298 00:11:53,712 --> 00:11:56,163 and, like, "Huck's either with us or against us," 299 00:11:56,197 --> 00:11:59,753 and Felix is thinking about everything else, not Huck. 300 00:11:59,788 --> 00:12:03,100 -Deborah Joy, this is from @LaurieReese1970. 301 00:12:03,135 --> 00:12:04,653 What was your reaction when you first saw Jadis 302 00:12:04,688 --> 00:12:07,243 on "World Beyond"? -[Laughs] 303 00:12:07,278 --> 00:12:10,868 I was like, "This hair. Oh, my God." 304 00:12:10,902 --> 00:12:13,110 I said -- when I saw, I was like, "Jadis? 305 00:12:13,145 --> 00:12:15,216 Like, Jadis-Jadis?" -Yeah. 306 00:12:15,250 --> 00:12:17,390 -Like, "Oh, my goodness." I thought it was amazing. 307 00:12:17,426 --> 00:12:18,807 I thought it was such an incredible add. 308 00:12:18,841 --> 00:12:20,567 I mean, I can't stand her. [Laughter] 309 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,775 I never liked her. 310 00:12:22,811 --> 00:12:24,571 But it makes sense. 311 00:12:24,605 --> 00:12:27,470 Like, she is, quiet as it's kept, 312 00:12:27,504 --> 00:12:30,301 she's like a better version of Victor. 313 00:12:30,335 --> 00:12:31,336 -Right? -You know what I mean? 314 00:12:31,370 --> 00:12:32,993 Like, she -- she knows what she wants, 315 00:12:33,028 --> 00:12:35,063 and she's out to get things for herself. 316 00:12:35,099 --> 00:12:40,311 And so her showing up at CRM and being a boss -- 317 00:12:40,345 --> 00:12:42,139 like, she's not just a foot soldier, 318 00:12:42,174 --> 00:12:44,418 she's the boss -- made all the sense in the world. 319 00:12:44,452 --> 00:12:46,799 I thought it was a beautiful addition, 320 00:12:46,835 --> 00:12:48,732 but I was thrown off for two seconds. 321 00:12:48,768 --> 00:12:51,253 I was like, "Is that Jadis? That's not Jadis-Jadis." 322 00:12:51,287 --> 00:12:52,875 -And then, a couple episodes back, 323 00:12:52,909 --> 00:12:55,084 I think she talked about how she got into the CRM, 324 00:12:55,119 --> 00:12:56,429 and it's like, "Oh, is that the Rick thing?" 325 00:12:56,465 --> 00:12:58,086 You know? -Yeah. 326 00:12:58,121 --> 00:13:00,296 -Just seeing the shows kind of bleed together... 327 00:13:00,331 --> 00:13:02,298 -They way they come together. -...and weave together 328 00:13:02,332 --> 00:13:05,438 was really nice, but let's -- let's shift 329 00:13:05,474 --> 00:13:09,892 a little bit and talk about the CRM on "Fear." 330 00:13:09,927 --> 00:13:10,927 Rosa wants to know, Karen, 331 00:13:10,961 --> 00:13:12,860 "After Grace's experience with the CRM, 332 00:13:12,894 --> 00:13:16,105 Would she be in favor of taking them down?" 333 00:13:16,139 --> 00:13:20,937 -Oh. You know, when I was watching your episode -- 334 00:13:20,971 --> 00:13:21,903 -Mm-hmm. -By the way, you were great. 335 00:13:21,938 --> 00:13:23,111 -Aw, thank you. -Love your work. 336 00:13:23,147 --> 00:13:24,803 -[Chuckling] I appreciate it. 337 00:13:24,837 --> 00:13:25,976 -I was like, "Damn." 338 00:13:26,011 --> 00:13:29,567 I mean, you guys, face-to-face with the CRM, 339 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,639 and having our encounter, our recent encounter, 340 00:13:32,673 --> 00:13:36,400 Morgan and Grace, at gunpoint, 341 00:13:36,436 --> 00:13:39,852 I was like, "Geez, there's no messing with them." 342 00:13:39,888 --> 00:13:42,062 They're like robots, you know? 343 00:13:42,096 --> 00:13:43,615 They -- They are soldiers, 344 00:13:43,649 --> 00:13:47,067 and there's no room for negotiation or anything. 345 00:13:47,101 --> 00:13:49,863 Despite even Grace pleading and saying, 346 00:13:49,898 --> 00:13:51,760 "We have a daughter," that doesn't matter. 347 00:13:51,796 --> 00:13:53,902 None of that matters. They're on a mission, 348 00:13:53,936 --> 00:13:56,456 they're focused to the task at hand, 349 00:13:56,490 --> 00:13:59,423 and there's just no budging with them. 350 00:13:59,459 --> 00:14:00,804 I don't know -- 351 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,635 I think Grace now, being in the tower with Strand, 352 00:14:04,671 --> 00:14:06,984 Keep your enemies close, right? I think the CRM, 353 00:14:07,018 --> 00:14:09,883 if she had to, it would be the same thing, too. 354 00:14:09,918 --> 00:14:11,780 Anything that she could do to infiltrate 355 00:14:11,816 --> 00:14:14,336 and to grab information 356 00:14:14,370 --> 00:14:16,234 that she could leak out to the rest of the gang, 357 00:14:16,269 --> 00:14:17,822 I think that would be her priority, 358 00:14:17,856 --> 00:14:19,823 but you can't mess around with that. 359 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:21,412 -They're wiping out entire cities. 360 00:14:21,446 --> 00:14:22,585 -They're ruthless. -Cities. 361 00:14:22,620 --> 00:14:25,794 -Like, entire populations of people -- gone. 362 00:14:25,830 --> 00:14:27,831 -They're so disrespectful. -Yeah. [Laughs] 363 00:14:27,866 --> 00:14:29,764 -"So disrespectful." -I mean, how dare they? 364 00:14:29,798 --> 00:14:31,422 -Who has the time? -Unreal. 365 00:14:31,456 --> 00:14:35,149 -Disrespect-- it's just not nice. 366 00:14:35,183 --> 00:14:38,462 You know, you can't just take out 100 -- that's not nice. 367 00:14:38,498 --> 00:14:40,465 [Chuckling] "So disrespectful." -Well, come on. 368 00:14:40,500 --> 00:14:41,984 -I mean, it is. It is. 369 00:14:42,019 --> 00:14:45,125 And then hearing Jadis speak so sort of robotically, like, 370 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:46,919 "Well, they're draining our supply, 371 00:14:46,955 --> 00:14:47,783 and there's not going to be enough. 372 00:14:47,817 --> 00:14:49,232 This is for the survival." 373 00:14:49,267 --> 00:14:50,475 And then you always got to go, like, 374 00:14:50,509 --> 00:14:51,924 "Is it for the survival of humanity, 375 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,927 or is it just for you? I don't know." 376 00:14:53,961 --> 00:14:54,927 -"Feels like it's kind of for you." 377 00:14:54,962 --> 00:14:57,274 "Kind of feels like it's for you." 378 00:14:57,309 --> 00:14:58,759 I think -- oh, I have more questions, 379 00:14:58,793 --> 00:15:00,278 but, actually, we do have to take a quick break, 380 00:15:00,312 --> 00:15:02,384 so we're going to jump to commercial real fast. 381 00:15:02,418 --> 00:15:04,419 Coming up, more interviews with the cast, 382 00:15:04,455 --> 00:15:07,629 plus those exclusive sneak peeks of next week midseason f-- 383 00:15:07,664 --> 00:15:09,287 next week, it's the midseason of "Fear," 384 00:15:09,322 --> 00:15:12,255 but the seriesfinale of "World Beyond." 385 00:15:12,289 --> 00:15:14,292 But, first, before Elton and Silas 386 00:15:14,326 --> 00:15:18,469 go all "American Gladiator" in a death globe down the hill, 387 00:15:18,503 --> 00:15:19,988 let's slow things -- that was amazing. 388 00:15:20,022 --> 00:15:22,299 Let's slow -- it was just like a hamster wheel. 389 00:15:22,335 --> 00:15:23,404 It was just like those little balls 390 00:15:23,438 --> 00:15:24,543 you put a hamster in. 391 00:15:24,577 --> 00:15:26,096 -I felt it was like on "Jurassic Park." 392 00:15:26,131 --> 00:15:28,961 -Oh, it was amazing. Oh, yeah. -Yes, yes. "This is so great." 393 00:15:28,996 --> 00:15:30,583 -It was perfect. -Like a video game. 394 00:15:30,619 --> 00:15:32,482 -Let's slow things down and say a final farewell 395 00:15:32,517 --> 00:15:34,967 to all those we've lost tonight on "World Beyond." 396 00:15:36,313 --> 00:15:39,455 ♪ 397 00:15:39,490 --> 00:15:41,456 [Walkers growling] 398 00:15:41,491 --> 00:15:48,636 ♪ 399 00:15:48,671 --> 00:15:55,782 ♪ 400 00:15:55,816 --> 00:15:57,438 -You should be proud, Hope. 401 00:15:57,472 --> 00:16:05,412 ♪ 402 00:16:05,447 --> 00:16:13,282 ♪ 403 00:16:13,317 --> 00:16:21,462 ♪ 404 00:16:21,496 --> 00:16:22,947 -Could be nice 405 00:16:22,981 --> 00:16:26,157 if it was the two of us doing that. 406 00:16:26,192 --> 00:16:28,572 ♪ 407 00:16:28,607 --> 00:16:30,126 Once this is all over. 408 00:16:30,161 --> 00:16:35,235 ♪ 409 00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:37,236 [Gunshots] 410 00:16:37,272 --> 00:16:46,659 ♪ 411 00:16:46,695 --> 00:16:56,118 ♪ 412 00:16:56,153 --> 00:17:05,438 ♪ 413 00:17:07,681 --> 00:17:13,134 ♪ 414 00:17:13,170 --> 00:17:15,550 -So far in this season, we've seen that Strand's tower 415 00:17:15,586 --> 00:17:17,828 has really become this oasis 416 00:17:17,864 --> 00:17:19,900 in the middle of the nuclear fallout, 417 00:17:19,934 --> 00:17:22,144 the place that everyone wants to be, 418 00:17:22,179 --> 00:17:24,940 and we wanted the tower to come under threat, 419 00:17:24,973 --> 00:17:27,321 but we wanted it to come under threat in a unique way. 420 00:17:27,355 --> 00:17:30,945 So it seemed like the smart play that the Stalkers can make was 421 00:17:30,980 --> 00:17:34,018 if they could take that safety away from the tower. 422 00:17:34,052 --> 00:17:36,019 -The sequence with the walkers and the Trebuchet 423 00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:39,644 was really a group effort and just a home run on 424 00:17:39,679 --> 00:17:42,268 every level from various aspects of our production, 425 00:17:42,301 --> 00:17:45,236 from the actual walkers flying into the building, 426 00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:47,652 struggling with Strand, Frank Iudica, 427 00:17:47,686 --> 00:17:50,586 our special effects, who helped us with the trebuchet, 428 00:17:50,621 --> 00:17:54,106 along with Colin Thurston in props, and, of course, 429 00:17:54,142 --> 00:17:57,144 Bernardo Trujillo production-designing the tower 430 00:17:57,179 --> 00:18:00,113 and the various stages of destruction 431 00:18:00,147 --> 00:18:02,391 as it becomes more and more besieged. 432 00:18:02,425 --> 00:18:04,944 It definitely took a village to accomplish that, 433 00:18:04,980 --> 00:18:07,603 and they really made it come to life in ways 434 00:18:07,637 --> 00:18:11,228 that were so beyond even what we could've dreamed. 435 00:18:11,261 --> 00:18:13,298 [Applause] 436 00:18:15,955 --> 00:18:17,474 -Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 437 00:18:17,509 --> 00:18:19,132 That was great executives producers Andrew Chambliss 438 00:18:19,166 --> 00:18:20,823 and Ian Goldberg on the incredible 439 00:18:20,857 --> 00:18:23,826 flying walker attack featured in tonight's episode of "Fear." 440 00:18:23,861 --> 00:18:26,000 Karen, what does it say about Strand 441 00:18:26,035 --> 00:18:31,317 that he creates this oasis in a nuclear wasteland? 442 00:18:31,351 --> 00:18:32,558 -He's smart. -Yeah. 443 00:18:32,594 --> 00:18:35,906 -He knows the way to gain followers 444 00:18:35,942 --> 00:18:40,498 is to create this safety net, this safe, you know -- 445 00:18:40,532 --> 00:18:44,468 this building where it has all the amenities 446 00:18:44,501 --> 00:18:46,952 that you could ever hope or dream for, 447 00:18:46,987 --> 00:18:50,128 and from there, he can control from within. 448 00:18:50,163 --> 00:18:51,819 I mean, talk about a lap of luxury 449 00:18:51,854 --> 00:18:55,306 with his paintings and fine art and -- and whiskey and bourbon. 450 00:18:55,340 --> 00:18:57,963 And can I just say -- Strand, all of us, 451 00:18:57,998 --> 00:18:59,067 when we look at Colman, were like, 452 00:18:59,103 --> 00:19:00,380 What outfit is he going to wear next? 453 00:19:00,414 --> 00:19:01,898 He looks amazing. 454 00:19:01,932 --> 00:19:03,934 And then we all look at ourselves and, like, 455 00:19:03,970 --> 00:19:07,145 "Oh, okay." [Laughter] 456 00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:09,423 But he's crea-- -[Chuckling] There weren't -- 457 00:19:09,458 --> 00:19:12,253 there weren't a lot of designer fashions in the submarine, 458 00:19:12,288 --> 00:19:13,911 it turned out. 459 00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:16,809 -Yeah, just a little bit. You know, some -- some suits 460 00:19:16,845 --> 00:19:19,605 and, yeah, more suits and hazmat suits. 461 00:19:19,641 --> 00:19:23,092 It's the hazmat-rubber-suit kind of feel, you know, 462 00:19:23,126 --> 00:19:23,990 that we're going for. -Yeah. 463 00:19:24,023 --> 00:19:25,371 -Hazmat suits are back, though. 464 00:19:25,404 --> 00:19:27,304 -They're back, yeah. [Laughter] 465 00:19:27,337 --> 00:19:29,547 -Have you worn one in 110 degrees? 466 00:19:29,582 --> 00:19:31,998 -Oh, no. -Highly recommend. 467 00:19:32,031 --> 00:19:35,726 Highly recommend. -Leather head to toe, yeah. 468 00:19:35,759 --> 00:19:37,072 -Deborah Joy, what do you think 469 00:19:37,105 --> 00:19:40,971 the whole "Strand's portrait thing" symbolized? 470 00:19:41,007 --> 00:19:44,906 -I just think it symbolized him sort of trying to reconcile 471 00:19:44,942 --> 00:19:46,978 within himself who he is. 472 00:19:47,012 --> 00:19:49,394 Like, we wants to be this amazing leader 473 00:19:49,429 --> 00:19:51,396 that everybody loves and comes to 474 00:19:51,431 --> 00:19:55,124 and thinks that he can just keep them safe and healthy 475 00:19:55,159 --> 00:19:56,643 and whole and happy. 476 00:19:56,677 --> 00:19:58,955 But he's also, like, "If any of that 477 00:19:58,990 --> 00:20:00,819 gets in the way of me having what I need, 478 00:20:00,854 --> 00:20:02,304 you're going to die." 479 00:20:02,338 --> 00:20:05,928 So there's this whole just dichotomy of trying to be 480 00:20:05,962 --> 00:20:08,482 this good versus evil within himself. 481 00:20:08,517 --> 00:20:11,969 And I think the picture, the portrait, was so beautiful, 482 00:20:12,002 --> 00:20:14,108 but he didn't love it because it didn't -- 483 00:20:14,143 --> 00:20:18,837 that -- that -- that bad Victor is at the top, 484 00:20:18,872 --> 00:20:20,978 and that's what's not being seen. 485 00:20:21,011 --> 00:20:23,429 It wasn't -- it wasn't in the portrait. 486 00:20:23,462 --> 00:20:25,431 -So do you think that means he hates himself 487 00:20:25,464 --> 00:20:26,777 or he loves himself too much? 488 00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:29,055 -I think he loves himself too much. 489 00:20:29,088 --> 00:20:31,160 But I also think he hates himself a little bit, 490 00:20:31,194 --> 00:20:33,266 because, you know, Alicia, 491 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:37,477 like, that's the one person that can make him recognize. 492 00:20:37,511 --> 00:20:39,444 "I am not a good person." 493 00:20:39,479 --> 00:20:40,825 -Yeah. He doesn't want to see her. 494 00:20:40,859 --> 00:20:42,240 -Yeah, no. -She's the mirror. 495 00:20:42,275 --> 00:20:43,413 -But he wants to make sure she's alive -- 496 00:20:43,449 --> 00:20:45,588 -Wants to make sure she's okay. Yeah. 497 00:20:45,623 --> 00:20:47,625 'Cause that's a weakness to him. -Absolutely. 498 00:20:47,660 --> 00:20:49,765 -But he also -- it's like he took 499 00:20:49,799 --> 00:20:51,284 that thing to the extreme where he was like, 500 00:20:51,318 --> 00:20:53,009 "I should only listen to myself." 501 00:20:53,044 --> 00:20:55,183 -Mm-hmm. -But that's very isolating, 502 00:20:55,219 --> 00:20:56,565 and people are like, "Hey, we want to help you." 503 00:20:56,599 --> 00:20:58,947 "Shut up. No, you can't." -Yeah, and now you're at a place 504 00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:00,362 where you trust nobody. -Right? 505 00:21:00,396 --> 00:21:02,984 People are trying to kill you, and you trying to run the world. 506 00:21:03,019 --> 00:21:04,642 -Right. -That don't work too well. 507 00:21:04,676 --> 00:21:06,920 -It's not working too well. -Mnh-mnh. 508 00:21:06,954 --> 00:21:08,750 -Nico, we've talked about Strand's evolution. 509 00:21:08,784 --> 00:21:11,477 How would you describe Felix's evolution 510 00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:13,133 on "World Beyond"? -Mm. 511 00:21:13,167 --> 00:21:16,826 Yeah, I feel like Felix now is actually a lot calmer 512 00:21:16,861 --> 00:21:20,761 than he was at the beginning of the series. 513 00:21:20,796 --> 00:21:22,384 His world was a lot smaller 514 00:21:22,419 --> 00:21:24,075 at the top of "World Beyond," right? 515 00:21:24,109 --> 00:21:25,939 He was in a safe place, 516 00:21:25,973 --> 00:21:28,287 he was taking care of the ones that he cared about 517 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,116 in a much easier way, 518 00:21:31,151 --> 00:21:37,087 and when he left, you know, and was chasing down the kids, 519 00:21:37,123 --> 00:21:40,057 the puzzle seemed still relatively small. 520 00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:42,749 And now, at the top of the second season, 521 00:21:42,784 --> 00:21:46,822 right, the universe is vast, and the puzzle 522 00:21:46,856 --> 00:21:48,652 is a lot more complicated and disturbed 523 00:21:48,685 --> 00:21:50,377 than he ever thought possible. 524 00:21:50,412 --> 00:21:52,310 And now Will is in the picture again, right, 525 00:21:52,345 --> 00:21:53,795 his primary relationship. 526 00:21:53,828 --> 00:21:56,901 So he has a lot more to live for and a lot more to fight for, 527 00:21:56,935 --> 00:22:00,145 and the kids aren't kids anymore. 528 00:22:00,180 --> 00:22:02,147 As, like, quick as it's been, 529 00:22:02,182 --> 00:22:04,494 they've all grown up in one way or another. 530 00:22:04,529 --> 00:22:07,186 And Felix has let them go. And now he's, you know -- 531 00:22:07,221 --> 00:22:09,086 he's here to protect Hope and Leo 532 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,159 and try to get them back and save the world. 533 00:22:13,192 --> 00:22:16,713 But I think that it's a much calmer energy now, 534 00:22:16,749 --> 00:22:18,301 more focused. 535 00:22:18,336 --> 00:22:21,305 -Karen, we have maybe like 45 seconds or so 536 00:22:21,339 --> 00:22:23,652 before we have to go to break, but what would Grace have done 537 00:22:23,686 --> 00:22:26,621 if she knew that Strand all of a sudden 538 00:22:26,654 --> 00:22:28,932 just started calling himself the baby's new father? 539 00:22:28,968 --> 00:22:30,417 -Oh, hell no. 540 00:22:30,451 --> 00:22:34,559 No, not on my watch. Mama bear's going to come out. 541 00:22:34,594 --> 00:22:36,182 [Laughter] 542 00:22:36,215 --> 00:22:39,634 I mean, after -- after losing her baby in Season 6, 543 00:22:39,667 --> 00:22:41,048 having to go through that, 544 00:22:41,083 --> 00:22:44,638 and now the possibility that her now -- the daughter 545 00:22:44,673 --> 00:22:48,988 that unifies everyone together could be taken away, 546 00:22:49,021 --> 00:22:52,612 and under this autocrat, this dictator, 547 00:22:52,646 --> 00:22:55,407 I mean, it's -- it's her worst nightmare come true. 548 00:22:55,442 --> 00:22:58,134 So, no, she would -- 549 00:22:58,169 --> 00:23:00,240 she would definitely do everything in her power 550 00:23:00,275 --> 00:23:02,587 to -- to intervene and to stop that, 551 00:23:02,622 --> 00:23:04,555 even if it means putting her life at risk. 552 00:23:04,589 --> 00:23:06,419 -Before we go to break, I want to remind you 553 00:23:06,453 --> 00:23:08,352 to follow FearHQ on Twitch. 554 00:23:08,386 --> 00:23:10,733 They're live four days a week discussing all things horror 555 00:23:10,768 --> 00:23:12,736 and "The Walking Dead," so please check it out 556 00:23:12,769 --> 00:23:14,323 and make sure you tune in next Sunday. 557 00:23:14,357 --> 00:23:15,807 Our guests will be on this show 558 00:23:15,842 --> 00:23:17,603 Jadis herself, Pollyanna McIntosh, 559 00:23:17,636 --> 00:23:19,432 exec producer of "Fear" Ian Goldberg, 560 00:23:19,467 --> 00:23:20,915 executive producer of "World Beyond," Matt Negrete, 561 00:23:20,951 --> 00:23:24,092 plus a surprise guest from "The Walking Dead" universe. 562 00:23:24,125 --> 00:23:26,714 -Dun-dun-dun. -It's going to blow your minds. 563 00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:28,441 And also a very, very big announcement, 564 00:23:28,476 --> 00:23:30,166 so please make sure to tune in next week. 565 00:23:30,201 --> 00:23:31,961 We will be here. Honestly, it is -- 566 00:23:31,996 --> 00:23:34,791 it is a very big deal, and we'll be right back. 567 00:23:34,826 --> 00:23:38,346 [Cheers and applause] 568 00:23:38,382 --> 00:23:43,213 ♪ 569 00:23:45,492 --> 00:23:50,289 ♪ 570 00:23:50,325 --> 00:23:52,637 -When Morgan needs Strand, 571 00:23:52,672 --> 00:23:55,156 he tries to play on Strand's better angels, 572 00:23:55,192 --> 00:23:56,987 Strand just looks at as an opportunity. 573 00:23:57,020 --> 00:23:59,161 He's like, "Okay." He assesses the situation. 574 00:23:59,195 --> 00:24:01,957 "What do you need? Okay, fine. 575 00:24:01,991 --> 00:24:03,545 I'll give you a couple days, 576 00:24:03,579 --> 00:24:04,788 but you've got to help me, as well. 577 00:24:04,821 --> 00:24:06,271 You've been out there struggling. 578 00:24:06,306 --> 00:24:08,170 Come on in and see what I've built." 579 00:24:08,204 --> 00:24:11,310 I think, ultimately, a lot of times, Strand wants approval. 580 00:24:11,346 --> 00:24:13,624 He wants to be seen for his better self 581 00:24:13,659 --> 00:24:16,489 and what he's able to do to say that he wasn't wrong, 582 00:24:16,523 --> 00:24:18,490 that he's right by following his instincts, 583 00:24:18,526 --> 00:24:20,734 and I think that he really values that from Morgan. 584 00:24:20,769 --> 00:24:23,392 And then, as, you find that, you know, 585 00:24:23,426 --> 00:24:25,773 there are some horrible people out there throwing walkers 586 00:24:25,808 --> 00:24:28,294 that have nuclear waste and stuff inside them 587 00:24:28,327 --> 00:24:30,606 so they would explode and just contaminate everything, 588 00:24:30,641 --> 00:24:32,747 they have to try to work together 589 00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:34,921 to defeat common enemy. 590 00:24:34,955 --> 00:24:36,301 Strand believed that they were working together, 591 00:24:36,336 --> 00:24:40,339 but then he gets poisoned, so that complicates everything. 592 00:24:40,375 --> 00:24:42,584 It becomes a bit of a madness. 593 00:24:42,618 --> 00:24:46,656 Everyone has a reason to try to poison Strand and take him out. 594 00:24:46,692 --> 00:24:48,314 All of this that plays on him, 595 00:24:48,347 --> 00:24:51,835 because he is sort of on his own island that he's built. 596 00:24:51,868 --> 00:24:54,596 It's really a hard place for him to be. 597 00:24:54,631 --> 00:24:56,494 [Cheers and applause] 598 00:24:56,528 --> 00:24:57,910 -Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 599 00:24:57,943 --> 00:25:00,290 That was Colman Domingo on the betrayal Strand feels 600 00:25:00,326 --> 00:25:01,603 after being poisoned. 601 00:25:01,637 --> 00:25:04,916 Can I just say, today is Colman's birthday, 602 00:25:04,951 --> 00:25:06,538 and I want to wish him a happy birthday. 603 00:25:06,574 --> 00:25:08,713 He is one of my favorite people in the world... 604 00:25:08,748 --> 00:25:10,439 -Happy birthday, darling. -...legitimately 605 00:25:10,473 --> 00:25:13,304 one of the most talented human beings I know, 606 00:25:13,338 --> 00:25:15,824 literally can do anything, and he does it flawlessly. 607 00:25:15,858 --> 00:25:17,480 I love you, Colman Domingo, Happy Birthday, 608 00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:19,827 and your performance this episode was fantastic. 609 00:25:19,863 --> 00:25:21,173 And let's just talk -- 610 00:25:21,209 --> 00:25:23,970 let's -- people from the Internet reacting to it. 611 00:25:24,005 --> 00:25:27,008 This is from the Twitter account @glennrhee. 612 00:25:27,041 --> 00:25:28,941 "Colman's performance this episode is impeccable." 613 00:25:28,974 --> 00:25:30,459 @SPNWalkingDead -- 614 00:25:30,493 --> 00:25:32,323 "I hate they're making Victor the villain this season, 615 00:25:32,357 --> 00:25:34,084 but Colman Domingo is so good at playing this role." 616 00:25:34,117 --> 00:25:35,705 Dalton Ross -- there have been a lot of great 617 00:25:35,740 --> 00:25:37,259 Victor Strand installments on "Fear," 618 00:25:37,294 --> 00:25:39,468 but Colman is at the top of his game in tonight's episode. 619 00:25:39,502 --> 00:25:40,952 And then Colman tweeted, 620 00:25:40,987 --> 00:25:44,784 "I had the most incredible time with this episode." 621 00:25:44,818 --> 00:25:48,063 Karen, can you talk a little bit about seeing Colman 622 00:25:48,097 --> 00:25:51,757 bring these script pages to life for this episode? 623 00:25:51,790 --> 00:25:53,448 -Watching -- Watching Colman 624 00:25:53,481 --> 00:25:56,105 doing what he does so eloquently 625 00:25:56,140 --> 00:25:58,935 and makes it all look easy, 626 00:25:58,971 --> 00:26:01,836 it's so delicious because you can see 627 00:26:01,869 --> 00:26:05,493 that he is embracing every second of every moment on set, 628 00:26:05,528 --> 00:26:08,635 and he's having so much fun being the naughty one. 629 00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:11,223 -[Laughs] -He loves being naughty. 630 00:26:11,259 --> 00:26:14,779 You know, he's fully embracing this dark side of him, 631 00:26:14,814 --> 00:26:16,920 and he's fully, deeply committed 632 00:26:16,953 --> 00:26:21,441 and to -- to see that enthusiasm and that passion in Colman, 633 00:26:21,476 --> 00:26:24,893 you're never short of inspiration from Colman. 634 00:26:24,928 --> 00:26:27,586 Just watching him perform, his -- his dedication, 635 00:26:27,619 --> 00:26:31,243 his commitment, his hard work, is truly such an honor 636 00:26:31,278 --> 00:26:33,798 to be in any scene with Colman, 637 00:26:33,833 --> 00:26:35,939 no matter how horrible he could be to you 638 00:26:35,972 --> 00:26:37,491 when they say, "Action." 639 00:26:37,526 --> 00:26:40,564 But he's -- he's -- he's just such a joy to work with 640 00:26:40,598 --> 00:26:42,945 and just seeing him just shine 641 00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:46,294 so brightly throughout this season, 642 00:26:46,327 --> 00:26:48,606 I'm just so excited for everyone to see what's to come, 643 00:26:48,641 --> 00:26:50,711 because if you think this is great, well, just -- 644 00:26:50,747 --> 00:26:52,713 just you wait. Just you wait. 645 00:26:52,749 --> 00:26:54,059 -So we talked a little bit about being surprised 646 00:26:54,095 --> 00:26:57,097 that Morgan was the one that did the poisoning, 647 00:26:57,132 --> 00:26:59,479 but does Strand need to be taken out at this point? 648 00:26:59,513 --> 00:27:01,930 -Absolutely. Absolutely. 100%. -You do? You think so? 649 00:27:01,964 --> 00:27:03,932 -We were just talking about how amaz-- 650 00:27:03,967 --> 00:27:05,900 "The performance is amazing. He's got to go, though." 651 00:27:05,933 --> 00:27:08,316 -It's like, that's the thing. It's -- I love watching him. 652 00:27:08,349 --> 00:27:10,663 -I don't want him to go. -I don't. 653 00:27:10,698 --> 00:27:11,940 I don't want him to go 654 00:27:11,974 --> 00:27:14,460 because I love what I get to see every week. 655 00:27:14,493 --> 00:27:17,117 However, he got to die. 656 00:27:17,152 --> 00:27:18,740 Like, he's terrible. 657 00:27:18,775 --> 00:27:20,604 He's absolutely terrible. 658 00:27:20,638 --> 00:27:22,398 Nobody in the tower is safe. 659 00:27:22,432 --> 00:27:25,953 Like, he was mad at homeboy and threw him off the roof. 660 00:27:25,989 --> 00:27:28,887 Like, it's like he has no control... 661 00:27:28,923 --> 00:27:31,719 -Right. -...over his emotions. 662 00:27:31,752 --> 00:27:33,893 It's like, "I feel this, so I'm just going to do it." 663 00:27:33,927 --> 00:27:35,273 -What about just a demotion? 664 00:27:35,307 --> 00:27:37,413 So we still get Strand, but maybe he's not -- 665 00:27:37,448 --> 00:27:38,795 -You can't trust him. 666 00:27:38,828 --> 00:27:42,074 Did you see the way he threw Morgan to the walkers.. 667 00:27:42,107 --> 00:27:43,938 -I saw that. I did. -...to save hisself? 668 00:27:43,971 --> 00:27:47,113 He might throw baby Mo-Mo. -No, but here's the thing. 669 00:27:47,147 --> 00:27:48,459 No, he wouldn't do that. -"He wouldn't do that." 670 00:27:48,493 --> 00:27:49,564 No, no, no. He wouldn't do it. Not with -- 671 00:27:49,597 --> 00:27:50,771 -But you can't trust him. -No, that's true, 672 00:27:50,807 --> 00:27:53,878 but I almost feel that there is -- 673 00:27:53,913 --> 00:27:56,156 somewhere tucked deep down inside, 674 00:27:56,191 --> 00:27:59,332 there is some compassion and empathy within Strand... 675 00:27:59,366 --> 00:28:01,438 -Oh, absolutely. -...and he's turned it off, 676 00:28:01,471 --> 00:28:03,819 okay, big time, but -- -Yeah, it comes on and off. 677 00:28:03,854 --> 00:28:06,132 Like, he -- when -- when Morgan went 678 00:28:06,166 --> 00:28:09,998 and radioed you and came back, 679 00:28:10,032 --> 00:28:11,586 he thought they were going to work together 680 00:28:11,619 --> 00:28:13,968 to defeat everything, and when he saw that blue, 681 00:28:14,001 --> 00:28:15,934 it's like that moment of working together 682 00:28:15,970 --> 00:28:17,247 went way out the window so quick. 683 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,076 -I know. I was so -- I was so happy for a minute, 684 00:28:19,111 --> 00:28:20,871 and then I saw the blue, and I was like, "Ah, damn it." 685 00:28:20,905 --> 00:28:22,804 -And then he was like, "It was you," and I said, "Aw, no!" 686 00:28:22,838 --> 00:28:24,875 -'Cause you see this real human moment 687 00:28:24,910 --> 00:28:26,670 where he's saying to the baby, like, 688 00:28:26,704 --> 00:28:28,913 "I never got the approval from my father," and you start going, 689 00:28:28,948 --> 00:28:31,087 "Oh, my God, of course," you know, 690 00:28:31,123 --> 00:28:33,815 and then, of course, the shields immediately just go up, 691 00:28:33,849 --> 00:28:35,334 and you're like, "Ah, damn it." 692 00:28:35,367 --> 00:28:36,784 But now it's time to see what everyone thought at home. 693 00:28:36,817 --> 00:28:39,269 We asked you at twdu.com/deadlive, 694 00:28:39,302 --> 00:28:41,442 what do you think Alicia will do when she sees Strand? 695 00:28:41,478 --> 00:28:43,756 Forgive him? They survived the nuclear apocalypse. 696 00:28:43,790 --> 00:28:45,240 Maybe they move on from the past. 697 00:28:45,275 --> 00:28:48,311 Or fight him? She's not going to be happy 698 00:28:48,346 --> 00:28:50,729 after she finds out what he did to Will. 699 00:28:50,762 --> 00:28:52,247 While the votes are calculating, Nico, 700 00:28:52,281 --> 00:28:54,422 what do you -- what do you think? 701 00:28:54,455 --> 00:28:56,078 -About the two of them? -Yeah, yeah, do you think she's 702 00:28:56,113 --> 00:28:59,323 ever going to forgive him? Is it possible? 703 00:28:59,357 --> 00:29:02,913 -I mean, I like to believe that forgiveness is always possible. 704 00:29:02,948 --> 00:29:06,605 That's, like, the hopeful person that lives inside of me. 705 00:29:06,641 --> 00:29:09,161 But I don't know here. It's not likely. 706 00:29:09,194 --> 00:29:10,749 -Right. -Yeah. 707 00:29:10,782 --> 00:29:13,441 -I think -- it looks like -- I'm watching the tabulations, 708 00:29:13,474 --> 00:29:17,307 and it looks like "fight him" is really the clear winner. 709 00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:18,790 [Laughter] 710 00:29:18,826 --> 00:29:21,137 What is that? Is that 98% to 2%? 711 00:29:21,173 --> 00:29:24,486 It's like it's some -- oh, 88% to 12%. 712 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,799 12% are like, "Eh, give him another chance. 713 00:29:27,835 --> 00:29:29,422 Come on." It's probably the grandmas. 714 00:29:29,457 --> 00:29:30,803 "Give him a chance." 715 00:29:30,837 --> 00:29:32,942 Everyone else is like, "Fight him." 716 00:29:32,978 --> 00:29:35,497 I do want to talk quickly about saying goodbye 717 00:29:35,531 --> 00:29:37,809 to Ted Sutherland, who played Percy. 718 00:29:37,845 --> 00:29:39,155 -Yes. -I did not see that coming. 719 00:29:39,191 --> 00:29:41,951 -That was so heartbreaking. -It was very, very sad. 720 00:29:41,987 --> 00:29:45,127 -Yeah. You know, I mean, in a lot of ways, 721 00:29:45,162 --> 00:29:48,647 this last block, we shot the last two episodes together, 722 00:29:48,682 --> 00:29:50,305 and it was the end for all of us, right? 723 00:29:50,339 --> 00:29:52,513 Like, we all knew the series was coming to an end, 724 00:29:52,548 --> 00:29:54,136 and we didn't really know what was happening 725 00:29:54,171 --> 00:29:57,173 with each character, and Ted found out, right, 726 00:29:57,209 --> 00:29:59,211 and I'm going to go on record -- 727 00:29:59,244 --> 00:30:02,109 Ted, if you're watching right now, okay, this is for you. 728 00:30:02,144 --> 00:30:04,630 Ted is the strongest actor on the show, hands down. 729 00:30:04,663 --> 00:30:07,391 And I think Percy is one of 730 00:30:07,425 --> 00:30:10,946 the most likable characters on this show 731 00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:13,086 in relation to Iris and just the way that it all works. 732 00:30:13,121 --> 00:30:16,400 So we were all heartbroken to see Ted go. 733 00:30:16,434 --> 00:30:18,230 But, like, we all left at the same time, you know? 734 00:30:18,263 --> 00:30:19,886 Like, it wasn't like we went to work the next day 735 00:30:19,921 --> 00:30:21,404 and Ted wasn't there. -Right. 736 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,407 -Like, I ac-- I actually think that was closer to the end 737 00:30:24,442 --> 00:30:27,617 than some other actors, right? -Right. 738 00:30:27,653 --> 00:30:31,587 -So, ah, but that death, like... 739 00:30:31,622 --> 00:30:33,314 -It was heartbreaking. -It was heartbreaking. 740 00:30:33,347 --> 00:30:35,108 -And I get why it needed to happen. 741 00:30:35,143 --> 00:30:37,800 -He was, you know, a charming grifter who knows, 742 00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:40,251 like, magic and who's, like, really sweet. 743 00:30:40,286 --> 00:30:41,942 Yeah, it was a -- it was a -- 744 00:30:41,978 --> 00:30:43,393 it was really hard, and I feel the same. 745 00:30:43,426 --> 00:30:44,566 It's like, "Well, I know the show's ending, 746 00:30:44,601 --> 00:30:46,326 but it was still -- it was still real sad... 747 00:30:46,361 --> 00:30:47,776 -Totally. -...to watch that character go. 748 00:30:47,810 --> 00:30:50,400 Before we go to break, I want to show you guys this. 749 00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:53,436 This is a "World Beyond" sweatshirt 750 00:30:53,471 --> 00:30:56,509 with Season 2 artwork on it. -[Gasps] 751 00:30:56,544 --> 00:30:57,924 Is it -- am I not holding this up properly? 752 00:30:57,959 --> 00:31:00,997 I'm sorry. I don't -- I don't go out of the house much. 753 00:31:01,030 --> 00:31:04,723 TWDUShop.com is where this is. 754 00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:05,897 And, of course, everyone in the audience 755 00:31:05,932 --> 00:31:07,416 is going to get one. [Cheers and applause] 756 00:31:07,451 --> 00:31:10,247 Coming up, we have two sneak peeks that I've been promising. 757 00:31:10,281 --> 00:31:14,044 We'll be right back on "Talking Dead." 758 00:31:14,078 --> 00:31:16,115 Now I'm doing it properly. There it is. 759 00:31:16,150 --> 00:31:20,636 ♪ 760 00:31:22,708 --> 00:31:25,606 ♪ 761 00:31:25,642 --> 00:31:27,608 [Cheers and applause] 762 00:31:27,644 --> 00:31:29,990 Welcome back. This is "Talking Dead" live, 763 00:31:30,026 --> 00:31:30,991 and now it's time for a video question 764 00:31:31,027 --> 00:31:32,820 from one of our viewers. Before we roll it, 765 00:31:32,855 --> 00:31:34,098 I want to remind you that if you want the chance 766 00:31:34,133 --> 00:31:35,238 to be featured on "Talking Dead," 767 00:31:35,271 --> 00:31:37,308 send us a 30-second video of yourself 768 00:31:37,343 --> 00:31:39,655 explaining how "The Walking Dead" has impacted you 769 00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:42,141 at fansubmission@talkingdead.tv. 770 00:31:42,175 --> 00:31:44,833 And now it's time for tonight's featured question. 771 00:31:44,867 --> 00:31:47,112 Roll it. -Hi, my name is David, 772 00:31:47,145 --> 00:31:49,217 and I am currently in Colorado Springs, Colorado, 773 00:31:49,251 --> 00:31:50,942 and my question is for Nico. 774 00:31:50,978 --> 00:31:53,083 Can we expect any big fight scenes with Felix 775 00:31:53,117 --> 00:31:55,913 in the series finale? -Ooh. 776 00:31:55,948 --> 00:31:59,469 Can we expect any big fight sequences? 777 00:31:59,502 --> 00:32:02,092 Yes. Yes. [Laughter] 778 00:32:02,126 --> 00:32:05,819 Very, very big fight sequences. 779 00:32:05,854 --> 00:32:07,579 The highlight of this job 780 00:32:07,615 --> 00:32:13,276 was shooting the finale of this series, for sure. 781 00:32:13,309 --> 00:32:14,794 Unreal. 782 00:32:14,828 --> 00:32:16,588 It was also 110 degrees. 783 00:32:16,624 --> 00:32:19,316 Wasn't in a hazmat suit, but... -[Laughs] 784 00:32:19,351 --> 00:32:20,799 -...leather pretty much head to toe 785 00:32:20,835 --> 00:32:24,251 with a pending tornado. -Oh, wow. 786 00:32:24,287 --> 00:32:26,151 -...so we were fighting the clock in Richmond, Virginia. 787 00:32:26,184 --> 00:32:27,945 -Oh, wow. -But more on that 788 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:29,948 after y'all see the episode. 789 00:32:29,981 --> 00:32:32,087 [Laughter] Lots of fights. Lots of fights. 790 00:32:32,122 --> 00:32:33,743 -Lots of fights in the series finale? 791 00:32:33,778 --> 00:32:35,298 Yeah, it'd be weird. If the series finale was like, 792 00:32:35,332 --> 00:32:37,162 "Well, guys, we -- you know, everything -- 793 00:32:37,195 --> 00:32:38,611 I guess it worked out." -Happily ever after. 794 00:32:38,645 --> 00:32:42,580 -"Yay, let's -- road trip," or whatever. 795 00:32:42,615 --> 00:32:47,895 Deborah Joy, what are you hoping to see from Alicia on "Fear"? 796 00:32:47,931 --> 00:32:52,003 -I'm just hoping that she does not run away from, 797 00:32:52,038 --> 00:32:56,490 really, being the leader of this -- this world. 798 00:32:56,526 --> 00:32:58,045 -Right. -I think that that's 799 00:32:58,078 --> 00:33:02,152 what she's called to be, and as crazy as Teddy was -- 800 00:33:02,186 --> 00:33:04,913 you know, he wanted to blow everything up, so he was nuts, 801 00:33:04,948 --> 00:33:07,226 but it made so much sense that he saw her 802 00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:10,090 as who was going to rebuild it, and that's what I want. 803 00:33:10,125 --> 00:33:13,750 I want her to not shy away from being the leader 804 00:33:13,784 --> 00:33:16,752 that she needs to be, being hard when she has to be, 805 00:33:16,787 --> 00:33:19,238 being soft when she needs to be, but understanding 806 00:33:19,272 --> 00:33:21,032 that all of that is going to be necessary 807 00:33:21,067 --> 00:33:23,586 to bring this world together and stop the chaos. 808 00:33:23,622 --> 00:33:25,002 -Seems like she's on the right path 809 00:33:25,037 --> 00:33:26,762 'cause she is leading this group, and so it seems -- 810 00:33:26,797 --> 00:33:28,834 -And she's leading from underneath. 811 00:33:28,867 --> 00:33:32,319 Like, it feels like she came from up under 812 00:33:32,355 --> 00:33:34,805 to the surface and be like, "What up, Morgan? I need you." 813 00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:36,599 He's like, "Where did you even come from?" 814 00:33:36,634 --> 00:33:38,947 I love it. I love it. 815 00:33:38,981 --> 00:33:40,327 Karen, how would you convince Strand 816 00:33:40,363 --> 00:33:42,260 to let you into the tower? 817 00:33:42,296 --> 00:33:44,470 -Easy. It's like a business card. 818 00:33:44,505 --> 00:33:47,784 I would just say, "For all your nuclear fallout needs..." 819 00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:50,682 [Laughter] 820 00:33:50,718 --> 00:33:53,375 -That sounds like a commercial. 821 00:33:53,410 --> 00:33:54,929 -But that's all she would need to say to him. 822 00:33:54,962 --> 00:33:56,309 -"Hi, I'm Grace. 823 00:33:56,344 --> 00:33:59,451 Are you going through a nuclear apocalypse? Well..." 824 00:33:59,484 --> 00:34:01,315 -Exactly. But she knows that, 825 00:34:01,348 --> 00:34:02,798 you know, that's his Achilles' heel. 826 00:34:02,833 --> 00:34:06,458 He has no experience in dealing with the implications 827 00:34:06,491 --> 00:34:08,425 and the ramifications of a nuclear fallout. 828 00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:10,255 -Mm-hmm. -Grace does. 829 00:34:10,289 --> 00:34:13,085 And, you know, earlier on back in 702, 830 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,123 you do see him sending, through Howard, the message 831 00:34:16,157 --> 00:34:19,436 "Come to the tower. We could use your skills." 832 00:34:19,471 --> 00:34:22,025 So I think that would be an easy sell. 833 00:34:22,059 --> 00:34:23,853 -That would be an easy sell. -It would, it would, 834 00:34:23,889 --> 00:34:25,097 because there's so much that she -- 835 00:34:25,132 --> 00:34:27,271 she's got so much information and experience, 836 00:34:27,306 --> 00:34:31,068 and she knows how to handle the gravest of situations, 837 00:34:31,103 --> 00:34:35,590 especially from the nuclear plant back in Season 5. 838 00:34:35,625 --> 00:34:37,385 That's one thing about Grace. 839 00:34:37,420 --> 00:34:40,387 When it comes to the most dire of situations, 840 00:34:40,422 --> 00:34:44,806 she can rely on her methodical, scientific, factual nature. 841 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,739 It's -- It's -- It's kind of fun 842 00:34:46,773 --> 00:34:51,018 to see how that plays off against Morgan's more hopeful, 843 00:34:51,054 --> 00:34:54,298 you know, always hopeful in everything, 844 00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:56,646 trying to see the positive sides 845 00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:58,233 to every situation, 846 00:34:58,268 --> 00:35:00,545 but with Grace, it's just very matter-of-fact. 847 00:35:00,581 --> 00:35:01,996 "No, this is what it is. 848 00:35:02,030 --> 00:35:03,411 This is what we're dealing with." 849 00:35:03,445 --> 00:35:06,793 So I think being very straightforward 850 00:35:06,827 --> 00:35:10,590 with -- with Strand is something that he would appreciate. 851 00:35:10,625 --> 00:35:13,282 Nico, this is from @negansaviors54, on Twitter. 852 00:35:13,318 --> 00:35:15,940 "What will you miss most about playing Felix?" 853 00:35:15,974 --> 00:35:21,739 -Hmm. I mean, besides Felix as a character, I think we all... 854 00:35:21,773 --> 00:35:25,157 working on this project created Felix collectively, 855 00:35:25,192 --> 00:35:29,264 and he's this -- he -- he -- he goes against the stereotypes 856 00:35:29,298 --> 00:35:31,231 of the type of person that he is, 857 00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:35,373 and just bringing that character to life was such a joy. 858 00:35:35,409 --> 00:35:38,963 And, hopefully, it carves more room for actors 859 00:35:38,998 --> 00:35:41,277 and characters in the future. 860 00:35:41,311 --> 00:35:44,556 But this cast, I mean, we spent so much time together. 861 00:35:44,590 --> 00:35:45,902 You know, we shot the first season 862 00:35:45,936 --> 00:35:48,007 right before the pandemic hit, 863 00:35:48,041 --> 00:35:49,940 then the world changed, and then we went back 864 00:35:49,974 --> 00:35:52,322 and shot the second season mid-pandemic, 865 00:35:52,356 --> 00:35:54,012 and, like, we couldn't see anyone else but each other 866 00:35:54,047 --> 00:35:56,083 when we were shooting in Richmond. 867 00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:57,465 We weren't really allowed to even see each other, 868 00:35:57,500 --> 00:35:59,190 but that definitely did not happen. 869 00:35:59,226 --> 00:36:00,847 -[Laughs] 870 00:36:00,882 --> 00:36:02,815 -And we just spent so much time together. 871 00:36:02,849 --> 00:36:05,922 And trauma unites people, right, unites communities. 872 00:36:05,956 --> 00:36:12,273 And I-I really miss a lot of a lot of these kids on this job. 873 00:36:12,307 --> 00:36:15,000 I mean, some of my best friends that I've ever had at work 874 00:36:15,034 --> 00:36:17,382 and we do-- we don't have that anymore, 875 00:36:17,416 --> 00:36:19,177 and we know that we won't have it in the future. 876 00:36:19,210 --> 00:36:21,661 So we actually all were together last week. 877 00:36:21,695 --> 00:36:25,286 We went to Dave & Buster's -- me, Ted, Nic, and Hal. 878 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,253 It was like a little boys' reunion, 879 00:36:27,288 --> 00:36:29,739 which was hysterical 'cause Nic can't go to a bar 880 00:36:29,773 --> 00:36:31,568 'cause he's not old enough, so we went to Dave & Buster's. 881 00:36:31,603 --> 00:36:34,570 Shout-out to Dave & Buster's. [Laughter] 882 00:36:34,606 --> 00:36:36,608 And, yeah, we're going to still find each other. 883 00:36:36,641 --> 00:36:38,298 -Well, it was such a whirlwind, but it's just been 884 00:36:38,333 --> 00:36:41,059 such a pleasure to get to know all of you and to see you, 885 00:36:41,094 --> 00:36:42,923 and I'm sorry it was so fast, 886 00:36:42,958 --> 00:36:44,409 and then we get to see you in person, 887 00:36:44,443 --> 00:36:46,134 but I really -- but we're -- but I -- 888 00:36:46,168 --> 00:36:47,757 honestly, anyone who's a part of this universe 889 00:36:47,791 --> 00:36:49,378 is always a part of this universe. 890 00:36:49,414 --> 00:36:52,244 So I feel like we will always -- we'll -- we'll always have it -- 891 00:36:52,278 --> 00:36:54,902 we'll always have "World Beyond." 892 00:36:54,936 --> 00:36:56,903 -And we know they do spin-offs, so... 893 00:36:56,938 --> 00:36:59,112 -Yeah, so you know what? -Make a call, Chris. 894 00:36:59,146 --> 00:37:01,184 -Well, before we go to break, I want to remind you 895 00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:04,083 that amcplus.com has episodes of "Fear" and "World Beyond" 896 00:37:04,117 --> 00:37:06,016 a full week early, so go check that out. 897 00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:07,603 And coming up, we have a sneak peek 898 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,260 at next week's midseason finale of "Fear the Walking Dead." 899 00:37:09,295 --> 00:37:11,400 But, first, here's an exclusive look at next week's 900 00:37:11,436 --> 00:37:13,472 seriesfinale of "World Beyond." 901 00:37:13,507 --> 00:37:15,474 Check it out. 902 00:37:15,509 --> 00:37:22,963 ♪ 903 00:37:22,998 --> 00:37:30,902 ♪ 904 00:37:30,938 --> 00:37:33,561 -Sweep that warehouse. Secure the containers. 905 00:37:33,596 --> 00:37:41,293 ♪ 906 00:37:41,327 --> 00:37:49,300 ♪ 907 00:37:49,335 --> 00:37:51,061 [Both grunting] 908 00:37:51,096 --> 00:38:00,967 ♪ 909 00:38:01,001 --> 00:38:10,804 ♪ 910 00:38:13,498 --> 00:38:17,847 ♪ 911 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,262 -Welcome back to "Talking Dead." 912 00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:20,331 We just have a couple of minutes left, 913 00:38:20,367 --> 00:38:21,574 but here's our exclusive sneak peek 914 00:38:21,608 --> 00:38:22,989 of next week's midseason finale 915 00:38:23,023 --> 00:38:25,164 of "Fear the Walking Dead." Check it out. 916 00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:27,373 [Creaking] 917 00:38:27,407 --> 00:38:29,755 [Lights snapping on] 918 00:38:29,789 --> 00:38:30,998 [Electricity buzzing softly] 919 00:38:31,032 --> 00:38:37,831 ♪ 920 00:38:37,867 --> 00:38:44,425 ♪ 921 00:38:44,460 --> 00:38:51,293 ♪ 922 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:53,400 [Gun cocks] 923 00:38:53,434 --> 00:38:55,436 -Don't move. 924 00:38:55,471 --> 00:38:57,092 Turn around. 925 00:38:57,126 --> 00:39:00,440 ♪ 926 00:39:00,476 --> 00:39:02,340 -Do you know what Teddy's doing up there? 927 00:39:02,373 --> 00:39:03,581 Why does he have us down here? 928 00:39:03,617 --> 00:39:04,411 -I found another straggler. 929 00:39:04,445 --> 00:39:07,414 -[Panting] 930 00:39:07,447 --> 00:39:09,277 If you ask me what I see when I look at him, 931 00:39:09,311 --> 00:39:11,175 I will gouge your eyes out. 932 00:39:11,210 --> 00:39:13,454 -I don't care what you see. 933 00:39:13,489 --> 00:39:16,250 We need fresh compost for the garden. 934 00:39:16,284 --> 00:39:17,320 [Walker growling] 935 00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:19,943 -No. No! 936 00:39:19,978 --> 00:39:21,980 [Panting] 937 00:39:22,014 --> 00:39:23,947 No! No! No! 938 00:39:24,947 --> 00:39:28,710 [Cheers and applause] 939 00:39:28,744 --> 00:39:31,576 -Alright. -[Laughs] 940 00:39:31,610 --> 00:39:34,474 Deborah Joy. I know, I know, right? 941 00:39:34,510 --> 00:39:36,132 -Whew! 942 00:39:36,166 --> 00:39:38,099 -So we have about a minute and 15 seconds left. 943 00:39:38,134 --> 00:39:40,894 Karen, what can you tease about what's next for Grace? 944 00:39:40,929 --> 00:39:42,793 -Well, Grace continues to navigate 945 00:39:42,827 --> 00:39:45,072 through her grief each and every day 946 00:39:45,106 --> 00:39:48,108 and trying to be the mother that she can 947 00:39:48,143 --> 00:39:50,559 as best she can to baby Mo. 948 00:39:50,594 --> 00:39:52,423 I -- definitely unified with Morgan 949 00:39:52,458 --> 00:39:54,737 that we need to protect baby Mo at all costs, 950 00:39:54,771 --> 00:39:59,085 especially because she's in arm's reach of -- of Strand, 951 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:01,536 and who knows what he'll do next? 952 00:40:01,570 --> 00:40:04,918 But also, she knows that Morgan's out there. 953 00:40:04,954 --> 00:40:06,713 She also knows that she's taught Morgan 954 00:40:06,748 --> 00:40:09,786 everything and, you know, how to protect himself 955 00:40:09,820 --> 00:40:12,581 as safely as possible. 956 00:40:12,617 --> 00:40:15,101 I think she's going to try and find as much information 957 00:40:15,135 --> 00:40:18,726 as she can to help everyone outside the tower. 958 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,244 -Excellent. Well, I want to thank you all for being here. 959 00:40:20,278 --> 00:40:21,626 It is so wonderful to see you in person. 960 00:40:21,659 --> 00:40:22,972 Thank you for coming, audience. 961 00:40:23,005 --> 00:40:24,282 Thanks for watching "Talking Dead," you at home. 962 00:40:24,318 --> 00:40:25,630 My guests have been Nico Tortorella, Karen David, 963 00:40:25,664 --> 00:40:27,286 and Deborah Joy Winans. 964 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,943 Be sure to catch Deborah Joy on "A Sisterly Christmas" 965 00:40:28,978 --> 00:40:30,737 airing December 7th on OWN. 966 00:40:30,773 --> 00:40:32,291 Don't forget to go to amcplus.com 967 00:40:32,326 --> 00:40:33,983 to watch the midseason finale of "Fear the Walking Dead" 968 00:40:34,016 --> 00:40:36,123 and the series finale of "World Beyond" right now, if you want. 969 00:40:36,157 --> 00:40:37,918 Next week, we'll be on after "Fear the Walking Dead" 970 00:40:37,952 --> 00:40:40,644 and "World Beyond" to break down everything on both shows. 971 00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:42,094 And, like I said before, Jadis herself, 972 00:40:42,128 --> 00:40:43,648 Pollyanna McIntosh, will be here, 973 00:40:43,681 --> 00:40:46,271 Matt Negrete, exec producer, Ian Goldberg will also be here, 974 00:40:46,304 --> 00:40:47,478 and a surprise guest from "The Walking Dead" universe 975 00:40:47,514 --> 00:40:48,791 you won't want to miss. 976 00:40:48,824 --> 00:40:50,137 Stay safe. Take care of each other. 977 00:40:50,170 --> 00:40:51,896 I'm Chris Hardwick. Goodbye! See you next week! 978 00:40:51,931 --> 00:40:53,208 We did it!