Hey, surprise! We're back with another
"talking dead: Home edition" for "fear."
You know, that happens sometimes. So here we are.
And I'm very excited, 'cause this was an incredible episode
Of "fear." we could not pass up covering this one.
Tonight, we met the man who john dorie called dad,
Played by film and television legend keith carradine.
We also saw June give her husband
An incredibly emotional funeral, which he very much deserved.
Dwight and sherry finally worked out some issues from their past,
One being negan himself. But dwight and sherry,
Will they truly be able to start over
Knowing that negan is still out there?
And will June and john sr. Be able to hold on to the values
That john jr. Believed in?
And what exactly is teddy's plan,
And how will they stop this bearded man?
We have some inside info from tonight's episode
That you can't get anywhere else
And an exclusive sneak peek of next week's episode
Of "fear the walking dead."
My guests tonight -- jenna elfman, aka June,
Christine evangelista, who you know as sherry,
Keith carradine, who plays john dorie sr.,
And friend of the show
Who is now employed in "the walking dead" universe --
She directed tonight's episode --
Aisha tyler is here. I am chris hardwick,
And this is "talking dead: Home edition."
♪♪
The conversation's just beginning.
We want to hear from you. Tweet us or hit us up
On instagram @amctalkingdead or go to our facebook page.
But for now, please say hello to my guests,
Jenna elfman, christine evangelista,
Keith carradine, aisha tyler,
All here on the virtual couch,
Which now looks like squares in cyberspace.
Keith, it is such a pleasure and an honor to meet you.
I am -- I was so excited to see that you were cast in this role.
I've been a fan of yours for many years.
So many -- so many great "deadwood" episodes.
If I'm not mistaken,
Garret dillahunt kill-- his character
Kills your character in "deadwood."
Is that not correct?
Garret dillahunt is the reason
I only got to do four episodes of that show, you know?
And I still have a bone to pick with him about that,
Because I would have liked to have hung around.
It was a great show, and because of him, I had to leave
After episode 4 -- well, it was actually in episode 5.
I was a corpse.
But yeah, garret. Yeah, he -- he killed me.
He was jack mccall. Well, now you're here
On this show as john dorie sr.
And this perpetual,
Like -- I call it, "walking deadwood,"
'cause there's a lot of really great --
Kim dickens came on "the walking dead," garret, you.
Like, there's a really great sharing program that we have.
Did they tell you about john dorie sr.'s backstory
When they offered you the role?
They told me -- the first thing they told me was
That I was going to be playing garret dillahunt's father.
Right. And when I heard that,
I got really excited, because having worked
With garra-- garret a couple of times, on "deadwood"
The first time, and then the second time on "raising hope"
When he was playing my daughter martha's husband.
And he's just -- he's one of the best actors I know.
And I was very excited at the prospect
Of being able to work with garret again.
And then they told me, "well,
You're not going to actually get to work with garret.
You're playing his father, but he's gone."
And -- and then I learned more from there as time went on
And they developed the script, and they told me more
About the backstory of my relationship with him
As my son and who I've been, what I've been doing
For the last 40 years or so since -- since I last saw him.
Now, jenna, we did not get to do a "talking dead" for 609.
So this is just sort of -- this is a make-up question for that,
Just about how you felt about June
Being the one to kill virginia.
I loved that I got to be the one to do the "honors,"
Because -- and it's a funny thing. The first mome-- I mean,
Colby minifie did such an extraordinary job as virginia.
And I remember the very first moment
Her character came on-camera. We were at tank town filming,
And she hopped off her horse, and, oh, my god,
This character just sent, like, the worst feel--
Like, just made the hairs on the back of my neck,
As June, stand up.
Like, as June, I had a very visceral reaction to this woman,
Because everything about her felt like completely
The opposite of what we as a group were.
And I remember I told ian and andrew that,
And they said there was something about
That that happened to me that actually inspired them
To have June be the one that killed --
You know, it really just makes sense, because,
You know, dakota's a child, and it is virginia.
And when you look at her backstory and all of her crimes
And the fact that this beautiful character john
Had to die alone and had to die at the hand of a child
Who thinks it's totally okay just to kill people
'cause you're in a bad mood about them.
It felt like the right thing for June to kind of come around
And take care of that, because I feel like, you know,
When we saw in 609, many people wanted to be the one
To sort of have the satisfaction of taking down virginia.
But I think it had to really mean something.
And I think it -- you know, the loss of john,
You needed kind of, like, a comparable
Magnitude of energy, you know, to -- in revenge.
And that was good. Yeah, because especially also June,
It's like, "I saved your life once.
I'm not making that -- not doing that again,"
You know, kind of a thing. No.
Christine -- not -- not even close.
Christine, I want to ask a -- I want to -- I want to get into
Some dwight and sherry talk.
What does it mean to sherry that she and dwight
Have this chance after all this time to just start over?
I think it's this -- [sighs]
I mean, it's just this moment of release for sherry
That she doesn't have to go through this alone anymore.
She's been carrying so much of the trauma and the resentment
And the anger that she's experienced from negan
And having all of that displaced anger
And putting it out anywhere that she could
And on this journey by herself.
And what I love so much about this episode
Is that all of these characters are, in one way or another,
Putting something to rest.
And they're all kind of getting over
The things that they've been carrying
Or the the pain that they've had.
And I think with sherry reuniting with dwight,
It's all a part of that. And, you know, she can --
He can help her forgive herself
For everything that she's been put through,
I think, with negan.
I really want to, just 'cause we have a couple minutes left
In this first part of the show, and I just want to say to aisha,
Beautiful job directing this episode.
I mean, knowing what a hard-core fan you are
Of "the walking dead" universe,
Having had you as a guest many times on the show
And then seeing this incredible episode that you directed,
I could -- I was -- I was so -- I mean, not surprised
That it was amazing by any means,
But just so blown away and so excited for you.
Were there easter eggs? What was the experience like?
Just anything you can share before we go to break.
You know, it was transformative for me for a lot of reasons.
And I think, like, 13-year-old me,
Who's a -- who's a "walking dead" world fan
Obviously was plotzing. But to work with
This incredible kind of powerhouse group of actors
Who all just brought, like, just a-plus game every day,
And it was awesome for me as a director.
It was really an extraordinary artistic experience.
And for the fans, this episode is so --
This is an easter egg basket, y'all, like,
We put so many hidden messages in this episode for people.
There's references to the mothership,
To -- to the lone walker in 210.
There is a -- there are a lot of --
Every walker in this episode
Represents something in "the walking dead" world.
So I really encourage people to look for them,
Because we buried a lot of magic,
Not just magic acting, not just magic emotion,
But a lot of, like, cool "walking dead" world stuff
In this episode. And wasn't it the lone walker
At the end? Was that the -- which one was the sort of
End of old June? So, for you guys --
The -- the one as I approach morgan
Or the one at the end?
When you first walk in to see morgan,
And that walker impales themself,
That's -- that's -- that's that's June walker, right?
And she steps on of the nest of -- of broken eggs,
Which represent grace's loss of the baby.
And then there is a pioneer walker
That you hit with the rv
That -- that is a -- that's a dead pioneer.
That is the end of the pioneers, right?
Like, the symbolic end of the pioneers.
There is -- the lone walker in the field
Is -- is a matched walker to the walker
That we saw into 210 where shane and rick are driving,
And they see this walker in the field,
And that walker is walking the opposite way of the rv.
And that's really you guys kind of leaving
Your solitary life behind,
Because you and john dorie sr.,
You've been alone, you've been isolated in your grief,
And you're finally together, and you're, like, passing
This lone -- like, isolated walker going the other way.
So it's, like, representative of you,
Like, leaving your isolation behind.
And then there is the -- the last walker at the end
When you're leaving, when sherry and dwight
Are riding off on their horse, is a negan walker.
He has a leather coat, he has on jeans,
And he's wrapped in barbed wire. And that is sherry leaving --
Deciding to leave her -- her -- her vendetta for negan behind
And choosing life over -- over vengeance.
I mean, this is exactly the kind of --
This is exactly the kind of detail
That only a hard-core fan of the show could infuse.
Totally. Totally. And I'm so glad
That you used your powers for good, aisha. Your investment is like gold.
Gold. Burnished nerd.
That's -- my nerd fu was so strong in this episode.
Oh, my god. [laughter]
Yeah. You knew stuff about sherry
In "walking dead" -- like, you knew every--
I would talk about something. You're like,
"oh, yeah, yeah, well, that was her sister, tina.
That was this, this, this." like, you knew your [bleep]
Well, I have to say, you as the sort of -- the overall
Storyteller of this episode, you did such a beautiful job
And such a stunning visual job of weaving it all together
And making it seem flawless and seamless.
So I'm just -- I'm so excited and so happy for you.
Coming up next, we have to take a quick break. We're gonna
Have more with jenna, christine, keith, and aisha,
Plus, an exclusive sneak peek
Of next week's episode of "fear the walking dead."
But first, before the dorie family
Launches their own collection of candy wrapper engagement rings,
Let's slow things down and say a final farewell
To all those we've lost tonight.
♪♪
Andrew: We had the idea to bring john dorie's father
Onto the show all the way back early in the season
When we wrote a monologue
Where john dorie talked about his father being a cop
And how his father abandoned the family
After he made some decisions
That he had a hard time living with.
So we knew he was going to be a character
Who cared a bit more weight on his shoulders
Than john dorie had and a little bit more jaded
But at the same time, have a little bit of glimmer
Of that hope that we would feel he passed onto john.
And when we were looking at names of who was available,
We saw keith carradine's name.
And ian and I were very excited, because we're a fan of his work.
And it just felt like, yes, that guy,
I would believe, is john dorie's father.
And then we just started to get more and more excited
That we had found the right guy. And it's just been awesome
To see someone like that enter this world.
And to boot, he's also just a really sweet guy.
♪♪
Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition."
That was andrew chambliss on casting keith carradine
As john dorie's father
And continuing his legacy on the show.
We're back with jenna, christine, keith, and aisha.
Jenna, can you -- your performance in the funeral scene
Was beautiful and absolutely heartbreaking
And --
And it really -- like, I felt -- I was feeling it just like wa--
'cause the way that I watch the show
Is basically kind of like on a computer screen,
And there's, like, time codes,
And there's all sort of -- and I just -- I saw past all of that,
And I could -- it felt like I could just see into June's soul
For that moment where she's reading the letter.
Can you talk about that scene a little bit?
The one beautiful -- extra beautiful moment for me
Was when, you know,
As the actor, like, working on this,
I went, "oh, my god." I just loved it
That he was forgiving his father in that note.
And his father's here, and I get to be a messenger.
And so to me, I really loved that moment as June,
Because June thinks -- you know, she's the most sane
When she gets to help others
And when there's anything barring her from helping,
That's when she starts to go into her like, you know,
Crazy area.
And so it was very cool
To sort of, in that vulnerability,
Have that moment of being a messenger for john
To john dorie sr., for john dorie sr.
And that -- I loved that moment before it became again about
Me and john's relationship and the sensitivity on that.
Well, and john dorie sr., like, it's so --
It's such an amazing choice to have his father
And to understand john dorie jr. A bit more,
Because they're both so hard on themselves.
And, keith, john dorie sr.
Has been so hard on himself his whole life, basically,
Almost his whole life.
So what do you think it means to him that his son forgave him
In his last -- in the last thing
That he did in his life, that he forgives his dad?
What does that -- what do you think that means to him?
Well, that was -- that was probably
The most emotionally profound moment for john dorie sr.
In his life, since he hadn't seen his son
Since his son was 12 years old.
And he's carried the weight of an enormous guilt
At having absented himself from his family
And from his son's life,
And having carried the burden of that for 40 years.
And, you know, he has used most of his energy
To try and compensate for that
By doing some sort of good in the world,
Particularly in his quest to track down teddy
And do something about that,
So that when he gets this moment of forgiveness,
As he's hearing that, you know,
And jenna's reading of that was, I mean, as an actor,
All I had to do was be there. She did it all.
All I had to do was listen, and it just filled me.
And it was a moment of the beginning
Of the possibility of redemption for john dorie sr.
Christine, were there parts of john's letter
That you think
Resonated particularly with sherry the most?
I mean, the whole reading of the letter was emotional,
And I was crying both as christine
And as sherry virtually the whole time.
But I remember her saying,
"I will never stop trying to get back to you."
And that really landed with me, especially as sherry,
Because you have sherry running from dwight,
Running from a lot of things for a very long time,
And even at the top of the episode,
Dwight talking about taking his own life
Because he's just been tired of searching.
And there's just so much pain that everybody's been carrying.
And there is this real redemption
For all the characters
And to stop running, to -- to forgive yourself.
And I just think the letter was so therapeutic for everybody,
You know, especially, I think sherry,
Looking at what she's been doing to her relationship with dwight
And just wanting to connect with him again.
It was so beautifully done by jenna.
It really was.
I mean, every single take was just perfect. Perfect.
Aisha, can you talk a little
About the experience of being at this location, the cabin,
Which is such an anchor for -- for so much of the --
You know, the emotional center of their story?
To be at that cabin, the cabin that we all know as fans,
You know, the cabin that June and john fell in love at,
The cabin where john dorie sr. Left his family behind,
It -- it was incredibly resonant.
But I -- it was important to me that this be June's opportunity
To finally --
To finally say goodbye, to finally feel the feelings
That she had been keeping really submerged all of this time,
And for all of us to get to mourn along with her.
And, I mean, jenna elfman just was
A-a supernova in that scene.
And, you know, it was just incredible to get to watch her
Feel those feelings as that character
And get to kind of carry us all along
On that river with her.
And to me, I felt at the end of that scene
That we all were getting to say our last goodbyes to him.
And then at the end of the episode, that look back,
June's look back at the cabin,
Is our last look at john dorie's cabin.
We have to take a quick break, but coming up, a sneak peek
From next week's episode. We'll be right back.
♪♪
Lennie: At the beginning of the episode,
Morgan is angry at the world,
And morgan is angry at himself,
And morgan takes that out on June.
However, it was quite difficult,
Because June and morgan have a particular bond,
Both through john dorie jr.
And just between themselves.
I liked the fact that he wasn't already rationalizing his anger
And apologizing for it.
He was just angry, and June was in his sights,
And he was just allowed to say, "I'm not letting you in."
And morgan being morgan, he would always be looking
For some way of reconciling with john.
And ultimately, for me, the big difference
Is that she walks in there with john dorie sr.
And I think the fact that it has happened at all tells morgan
That the world is still on his side,
That the world might take something away,
But that it sometimes gives something in return.
And what it has given morgan is john dorie sr.
And what is given June is john dorie sr.,
'cause they need June. Morgan says,
"if we're not all together, it doesn't work."
And I think that's why it's important,
And I think that's why he allows her back in.
♪♪
Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition."
That was lennie james on the complicated dynamic
Between morgan and June in tonight's episode.
We're back with jenna, christine, keith, and aisha.
Aisha, what was most important to you
When directing that final scene
Where June introduces john sr. To morgan?
John dorie's got information about these people
That have been leaving these -- you know,
These graf-- these graffiti signs everywhere.
"the end is the beginning."
And June's mission has been to figure this out,
And she's got a key.
She's brought a key to morgan.
What she's hoping is not just going to help everybody,
But it's going to kind of unlock
What's been a little bit of a closed door for her
Because of what she did with -- with -- with ginny.
And so she brings him there,
I mean, not as a peace offering,
Because June's not a transactional person,
But she does want to be a force for good.
And originally, the scene was written that --
That she was going to leave morgan and john dorie sr.
To kind of hash out what the next steps were.
But it was really important to me that we honored
That June had succeeded in this mission.
She had gone -- she had brought back something meaningful.
And we weren't just going to leave the dudes
To talk about what was going to happen next.
You know? Yes.
To me, I wanted to see all our heroes put their heads together
At the end of this episode. I wanted to know, you know,
You want that superhero ending, like,
"alright! Now we're going to go bust some heads!"
'cause that's also what the kids come
To the "walking dead" world for. Yeah, but I also think
Just from a -- from a character development standpoint,
It also -- it's very much in line
Where it feels like June's character.
She's obviously been through a lot
In the last handful of episodes --
I mean, throughout the whole show,
But specifically in the last handful of episodes.
And it feels like, well,
That to me made sense of where her character was at,
To bring john there and not just leave him off.
I mean, jenna, how would you compare her mind-set
From right after to losing john
Where she is at the end of this episode?
You know, morgan kind of called her out,
And she also doesn't want to, like, apologize or ask,
You know, to be "forgiven" or approved
Or anything for having done her action to ginny.
But morgan does kind of lay it down.
And he's also hurting.
So he says things that, you know --
He's a hurting person, like dwight says.
But at the same time, it makes June think.
And so when June goes off and is, like,
Irritated because morgan's right,
And he's forcing her to look at something
She doesn't want to look at, but she's like, "screw it.
I'm going to, like, take responsibility."
And I think that that's the thing is she she goes
And, like, actually takes responsibility.
And, you know, if morgan hadn't said that to her,
If she hadn't created a power vacuum and killed ginny
And pissed off morgan and morgan rejecting her,
Would she have gone to tank town to, like, try and solve it?
And then would she have found john sr.?
So, I think that there's a magic and a beauty
And, again, that circular nature
Between john dorie, morgan, and June.
And so I think she comes back with some confidence
And some -- that she -- she -- she did something
That is worth something, that means something.
And I know that that would have value and meaning to morgan,
Not as, like, a transactional thing, like aisha said,
But it's like, "in exchange for having created an effect,
Let me bring a more beneficial effect in
And try and balance out that energy."
Keith, how would you describe john sr.
And June's relationship going forward?
Well,
For the first time in 40 years,
John is now presented with
Once again belonging somewhere.
And his sense of belonging comes from having discovered
That he has a daughter-in-law.
I mean, that's -- that's huge.
And I think that one of his first instinct
Was to -- was to be protective of June.
Little did he realize that this is not a woman
Who needs protecting from anybody.
But he kind of came at it from an old-school guy point of view,
Like, "I'm going to put you here,
And I'm going to make sure you're okay."
And what he's failing to realize is that this is probably
The most capable woman on the planet.
And if he could use anyone's help,
It would be -- it would be June's.
But I think that from now, you know --
From -- from this episode forward,
Their relationship I think will will continue to strengthen.
And there are subsequent episodes
Where they go through stuff
That -- that -- that continues to build on that --
On that father-daughter relationship.
I think it's going to be -- I think
It's going to be really fun to -- to watch and explore.
It's just something that I love about the show,
This idea of storytelling,
Where you find out a piece of john dorie,
The younger john dorie's backstory several episodes ago.
It's kind of just an aside
That you think its purpose is just to, like,
Well, it's just going to kind of explain,
Like, what his deal is a little bit,
Give you a little more backstory,
And then you forget about it.
And then all of a sudden, it is the catalyst
For this entire new thing that opens up
That's like, that wasn't an aside.
That was a launching-off point for this whole other thing
That's going to develop way later in the show.
And so it's really nice as a callback, like, "holy crap!
This all fits together! And this guy, teddy and the dad!
Oh, my --" you know? It's just so beautifully woven together.
It's incredibly smart how they did this.
Yeah. I mean, it just --
I also think everyone
Can go back and watch episode 604 again.
To see it, to connect everything.
Absolutely, I mean, the -- the -- the thing that's --
There's a lot of extraordinary things about this world
And then about "fear" specifically,
But it's everything is incredibly well-considered.
And when we were working on this episode,
I had all my, like, fan ideas,
And I'd be like, "can we do this?"
And they'd be like, "yeah,
But we're going to pull that thread four episodes from now,
So we can do that, but we can't do this."
And I was like, "great. What about this?"
And they were like, "yeah!"
So there was always this beautiful,
Like, mathematical planning that went into every single choice
That we made on the show.
Like, everything was just wildly well considered.
And I also think it shows
This extraordinary respect for the fans.
Like, we don't answer all your questions right up-front.
We want you to lean in.
We want you to connect with this world
And -- and figure things out on your own.
It's a complex world.
And -- and we honor that we have a complex viewership.
And you guys are smart, and we really want you to, like,
Put both hands in and get dirty, because this is not a show
Where we're going to tie everything up in a perfect bow.
But you will be able to look back
And see these bright lines,
These bright threads that run through everything.
Well, really quick,
Just shifting gears for a second, christine,
Can you talk about what it meant for you
That dwight and sherry have this really special moment
Where they're reminiscing about their lives pre-apocalypse?
Yeah. I mean, you live for those scenes, right,
Those scenes of just -- that are light,
That that reflect on a time before, where you're smiling,
And you're thinking about something else.
And, I mean, we see that now in the pandemic of 2020,
When we're talking to our friends
About anything other than the pandemic,
What a great conversation it is
And how rare of a conversation it is,
Especially now.
So in the world of "the walking dead,"
It's the same thing.
And for the two of them to reflect on life before
And that they do really love each other,
And they do have so much history,
And they do really trust each other,
Like, you really live for those moments.
And I know as a -- as an actress in a show like this
That's so intense all of the time,
It's -- it's, like, so refreshing to just have
Those, like, really beautiful human scenes.
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Coming up, an inside look at tonight's episode.
And later, we're going to have that exclusive sneak peek
Of next week's episode. We'll be right back.
♪♪
Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition."
We're here with jenna, christine, keith, and aisha.
Christine, when you're shooting scenes on horseback,
Are you always on a real horse? Is that a dumb question?
'cause it's like, "wow, they're moving really fast,
And there's two of them on that one horse.
That's -- that's -- that seems like a feat."
People don't understand how good I am,
Because I am riding this horse. [laughter]
I'm riding on the back of a horse behind austin,
Who's on a saddle.
I'm bare-backing this thing, okay?
We're going up hills. I'm stabilizing myself.
I mean, thankfully, austin's really good,
But I'm, like, holding onto him for dear life,
'cause we're going -- we're going fast.
Then there's the horse that I fall on
That's technically this stunt horse,
This beautiful, beautiful horse that is a stunt horse
Because it could lay down on command,
Which you see throughout the episode.
So that's an entirely other horse.
And then there's the horse that's on the back of this rig
With 15 camera operators,
And everybody's on the floor underneath me.
And I'm just, like, bucking it on this horse.
And it's kind of like those horses
That you would see outside of, like, a supermarket in the '50s
That are, like, on this spring set.
And you are just, like, riding for my life on this horse
That's on this rig that's driven by like 15 crew guys.
I mean, there were a lot of horses in this episode.
And, yeah.
Thankfully, I have a good group of people around me
To teach me how to do all of them and ride all of them.
Aisha, can you talk a little bit about shooting the scene
Where the horse is on the ground?
Because -- speaking 'cause christine brought it up,
Just the scene where the horse is on the ground.
Yeah. I mean, like -- like, narratively,
That scene was really about sherry being so one-pointed
That she's not really aware of what's going on around her.
And in a lot of ways, you know,
That scene really -- that's a culminating scene,
Right? Like, you know, she's rid--
She rides that horse so hard that -- that it breaks down,
And she has to put it down. And we had a big plan --
We had a big plan for this really cool
Kind of, like, crane shot
That was going to, like, see sherry
And then pull across the horse, and the horse is on the ground.
It's -- it's about to perish. And then she shoots it.
And then we get there, and this horse is --
Guys, horses are not dogs, okay?
Let's just get that out of the way.
They have a very specific agenda of their own.
And we get the horse to lie down,
And then immediately, it jumps back up.
It's like, "what's everybody doing?
We having lunch? What's up? Are there apples?"
We could not get this horse to stay still.
And we had been working on this scene all morning,
And I turned to the stunt coordinator,
And I go -- we both go. "animals and kids," right?
Because that's the old thing in hollywood.
Like, you shouldn't work with children or animals.
But the horse was a lovely horse and had a great trainer.
And we get the horse to lie down for like a minute
And we're just like, "okay,
That's the best we're going to do, guys."
We get it, and we're stoked, and it looked great.
But you just don't know. Like, it looks perfect on-screen,
But you don't know how we were all like,
"what if we can't get the horse to pretend to be dead?
Do we have a doll horse?
Can we put some men inside a suit like a horse?"
Like, we're evaluating all of our options.
No horses were harmed in the making of this feature.
I assumed that was the case, but thank you for clarifying.
All you have to do is just get the thing to lie down once,
And it jumped up. Just one time. Just one time.
Just get this one shot, please?
He was so excited. He was like, "guys, guys,
Are we gonna play, like -- are we gonna play cards?"
He did not want to lay down. "I'm on 'the walking dead'!"
This is him, like, clapping his hooves together.
"I'm on the walking dead'!
Guys, I can't believe I'm here!
Aisha, I've seen you on 'talking dead.'
It's amazing! You're directing me now!"
[speaking indistinctly] [laughter]
Forevermore. Forevermore, chris.
Chris: It's the horse clapping.
This is now how I will applaud anything.
Yay. Horse clap.
Yay.
Clap-clap-clap, clap-clap-clap, clap-clap-clap, clap-clap-clap.
[laughter]
Coming up, we have an exclusive sneak peek
Of next week's episode of "fear the walking dead."
But first, are you ready to go inside the "dead"?
Here's some inside info from tonight's episode
You can't get anywhere else. Please enjoy.
♪♪
Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition."
@mandeepdigpal on instagram says "keith,
Have any walker special effects been too much for you?"
[laughs]
You know, I've been doing this a long time.
And I've been in violent scenes. I've been in scenes
That, you know, where there were --
Was a certain amount of gore.
I have to say, nothing prepared me for when we had a walker
Wrapped around the drive shaft underneath the motor home.
That was as -- that was as grotesque a thing
As I have ever seen.
It was it was viscerally disturbing, because, in fact,
The walker's viscera was wrapped around the drive shaft
And being unwound and splattering everywhere.
I mean, that was -- that was really
Deeply, deeply disturbing. [laughs]
Jenna, what do you think it represents for June
That she's wearing john's hats,
She's using the -- the john dorie guns?
What does that represent for her?
[sighs] I think it's multi-layered and complex.
I think it's partially honoring him, of course.
I think partially, it's keeping him alive for her.
I think partially, it's a security blanket.
And I think that these objects become
Her compass, and they are like
Sort of spiritual training wheels and a flotation device
And a shrine all at the same time.
So it'll be interesting to see moving forward, you know --
I'm excited to watch how these things kind of continue or shed
Or her evolving into 2.0
Is going to -- what that's going to look like.
Christine, I want to talk about the moment
Where June gives the rings back to dwight.
It's just such a beautiful moment.
And it made -- and it's like, yes, that's exactly
What they both would have wanted to do,
Sort of passing them back to their rightful owners.
Can you talk about that moment for you?
I think the fans are going to love it so much,
Because everyone's really been rooting
For sherry and dwight to connect again.
And these rings, their -- their wedding rings,
They symbolize love and commitment and trust.
And -- and I think these characters,
Having them back again
Is the chance to have all of that once more.
And I think it must be a very therapeutic
And healing thing for June to be giving back over again
And, you know, part of her whole process
With everything that she's going through with john and -- and --
And I just think it's just this wonderful symbol
And this passing of the, you know, the torch, again, I guess,
And for the people that really love each other
To connect with each other again.
You know, I mean, she doesn't know that dwight has it,
But I think it'll be really great for the audience to see.
And it's just like -- it's just this glimmer of hope.
Yeah, and also a bit of a homecoming, too, right?
The dories have come home. They've all come back.
John is home. His dad is home.
June is home. It's their home where they met.
And now it's like, "now we're giving you --
This -- this was your home. This represents your home.
And y'all can, you know, start your home together now."
It's just such a beautiful, eloquent moment.
Coming up, we have an exclusive sneak peek
Of next week's episode of "fear the walking dead."
But first, if you want to find out
Even more about tonight's episode of "fear,"
Head over to twduniverse on twitch
Right after "talking dead," where jenna elfman
Will be answering your questions live.
She'll be live right after this program
Over on twitch twduniverse.
Check it out. We'll be right back.
Send the coffee. [laughs]
♪♪
Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition."
Now it is time for the exclusive sneak peek
Of next week's episode of "fear the walking dead."
Here it is.
No! No!
[whimpering]
Come on! Let's go!
[grunts]
Don't be afraid, george.
Don't be afraid.
Remember, the end is the beginning.
You're about to be given a new life.
You actually believe all the bullshit you spew, maddox?
Get it all out.
You'll be walking this walk soon enough.
[door opens]
[door closes]
♪♪
[chuckles]
♪♪
Oh.
[spoon clatters]
Ah.
[alarm blaring, doors clanging]
[indistinct shouting]
[growling]
[shouting continues]
[screaming in distance]
Man: Guards! Guards! Open the door!
Man #2: Hey! Stop!
Alright, well, that looks like that was a flashback of teddy
Around the time when the world started to fall apart.
So, keith, what are you most excited for fans to experience
As this season comes to an end?
You know, now that I have become initiated into
How deeply these fans are involved with this show
And what they have come to expect,
All I can say is that when they get to the finale
Of the last episode of season 6, their minds will be blown.
Alright. Alright. I don't -- very foreboding.
I don't know what that means,
But it sounds like there's something brewing.
I would imagine.
Aisha, first of all,
Congratulations on an amazing episode. Like, truly.
I'm gushing about it, because I'm so excited for you.
I'm -- I'm -- [laughs]
Yeah, jenna was giving the -- the clap that we --
But this was just -- this was an iconic episode
In an iconic show. Like, you've really given the fans
One of the iconic episodes of "the walking dead."
What is next for you? What else are you doing?
I know you always have a million things going on.
"whose line is it anyway?" airing on cw.
Season 12 of "archer," we're working on it right now.
It's coming out later in the year.
I have a cocktail company called courage + stone.
I'm one of the only women of color in the cocktail space.
So you can find out more by following me at aisha tyler
On all social platforms. And I'm directing lots of stuff,
So there's new things coming in the future.
You work on the best stuff, aisha tyler. You really do.
And I'm so, so happy and excited for you. And to everyone else,
Thank you for this amazing episode.
I'm so glad we got to do a "talking dead" for this one.
Thanks for watching "talking dead: Home edition."
My guests have been jenna elfman, christine evangelista,
Aisha tyler, and keith carradine,
To "the walking dead" universe.
As aisha said, you can find her on "whose line is it anyway?"
And on "archer." make sure to follow her
On all the social platforms at aisha tyler
To find out what other amazing stuff she has going on.
And I want to remind everyone that "fear the walking dead"
Will not have a new episode may 30th,
Because that's memorial day weekend,
But will return the following Sunday on June 6th.
"talking dead" will be back for the season 6 finale
Of "fear" June 13th.
We'll be joined by colman domingo,
Zoe colletti, and executive producers
Ian goldberg and andrew chambliss.
In the meantime, please stay safe
And take care of each other. It's wonderful to see you.
Take care. We'll see you soon. Bye-bye.
I'm chris hardwick. Bye-bye.