Hello, everyone. Welcome to "talking dead: Home edition."
This episode is dedicated entirely to the two-episode
Season-one finale of "walking dead: World beyond."
And let's kind of talk a little bit about what happened.
First of all, silas gave himself up to protect his friends.
Felix and iris met a mysterious group
Led by felix's boyfriend, will.
Huck completed her mission,
But what do you think the crm is gonna do
When they find out that hope needs her sister
To unlock her true potential?
We're gonna talk about all that.
We're gonna have a behind-the-scenes look
At the season finale of "world beyond."
We're also gonna have an interview
From the set with annet mahendru, who plays huck,
And talk about her journey this season.
And, of course, an in memoriam for all those we lost tonight.
Joining us this episode, we got lots of folks
'cause there's lots to talk about.
We have alexa mansour, of course, who plays hope.
We have nicolas cantu, who's elton.
We have hal cumpston, who's silas.
We have nico tortorella, who's felix.
We have aliyah royale, who's iris.
And, of course, executive producer
And showrunner matt negrete.
Let's get into it. I am chris hardwick.
And this is "talking dead: Home edition."
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Later in the show, matt negrete and nico tortorella
Are gonna be joining us, but for now,
Here's alexa mansour, hal cumpston,
Nicolas cantu, and aliyah royale.
First of all, congratulations, everyone.
It's -- finally, there are no spoilers to worry about anymore.
Congratulations on an incredible first season.
Alexa, let's start with you.
What was your reaction
When you found out that hope was the asset?
Really shocked.
I mean, I thought hope would've been the last person
To be super-smart.
I think I had the same reaction as hope.
Like, "wait. What? I'm -- I'm the asset? That's me?"
But, I mean, it was pretty cool to think of her like that.
I think that it validated a lot of her feelings, you know,
Made her feel like she was a lot smarter and whatnot
Than she actually believed.
And then, for aliyah,
What do you think it meant to iris
When hope told her
That she was gonna save the world from the crm?
That was -- that has to be one of my favorite moments
Ever between the sisters.
Um, you know, the minute we found out
That hope was the asset,
Iris definitely felt like a large part of her identity
Was missing. She's worked very hard
To be the smartest, most helpful person in the room,
So to find out that that was like --
She's not the genius, you know, it's hope,
It was -- it was actually really hard.
And there's a couple moments in the show
Where you'll see reactions of iris being like,
"I'm sorry. What?"
But, you know, 'cause iris definitely
Just wants to be a part of the solution.
But I think the way hope is like,
"hey, I can't do this without you.
It's me and you. We fill in the blanks for each other."
It gave iris some of her identity back,
And it really helped.
Nicolas, elton seems to have gone on a bit of
A journey in this first season.
I mean, he's a -- he's very pragmatic.
He's very scientific.
He's -- he -- that has been a comfort for him
Just in terms of, you know,
The acceptance and assumption that like, well,
Human extinction is inevitable, but it --
But he doesn't necessarily feel that way anymore, right?
Yeah. I mean, you're definitely right about elton's journey.
And you definitely see it in these last two episodes.
It all kind of culminates up on that hill.
He has this conversation with his, like,
Manifestation of percy,
Which is almost a manifestation of a version of himself
That's pushing him to be better, and so he realizes up there
That even though, hey, the world might be a grim and dark place,
He still has reason to fight,
And I think he showed that on top of that hill.
When he expertly eliminated four walkers,
It was [smooches] beautiful handiwork, elton.
Round of applause. It was the best, man.
It's what I was looking forward to for so, so long
'cause the entire season,
I'd gone from, like, kicking empties,
But, no, I finally got a big whack on that man
With silas' wrench. It was so, so fun.
I like how you say four like --
"you know, I killed four, but who's counting really?"
I mean, you know, it's not a compet-- it's not a contest.
Right. Yeah, no. I killed four...
Every victory I get, I got to hold onto that.
I'm like, "man, yes!"
Hal, I'm so glad that silas did not kill tony.
I really never thought that he did.
What do you think is going through
Silas' mind when he realizes that he didn't do it?
Well, obviously, he's, like, happy,
But I feel like he can't exactly be like, "yes!
It wasn't me that killed tony!"
It's a little bit little bit unfair to percy.
-Right. -But, yeah, I mean,
Still it's like two completely different lives, I guess.
If he has to live with it thinking that he killed someone
When he was drunk, it obviously would have led
To a bit of a different life, so, luckily, I mean --
Yeah, by some crazy chance, he runs into elton,
Then elton gives him the good news.
I mean, it's good -- it's good for silas.
Although I sort of, like -- in the back of my head,
I was like, "well, if you did kill those people,
It would create a pretty interesting storyline."
Right. But hopefully we're just -- silas is coming
To a place where he can just go easier on himself, you know?
I mean, yeah, for sure. I mean, he already was.
And then literally when he was just starting to get good,
Then obviously that thing happens where he thinks
That he's killed two people, which isn't very good
For coming out of your shell most of the time.
No. Alexa, how do you think huck's betrayal affects hope?
Do you think she could ever forgive that?
I don't think so.
I think that hope looked at huck like this older, cooler sister.
And, I mean, hope doesn't really let anyone in, you know?
When she let huck in, she told her everything,
And to find out that this person betrayed her,
Like, the one person that she actually looked up to
And cared about, aside from iris, is beyond me.
It's like when you -- it's like
When your parents do something messed up, you know,
And you're like, "oh, man, if my parents could do that,
Then anyone else is gonna do that to me."
And I think huck was that parent figure for hope,
And now she's just kind of like,
"well, the world has gone to crap,
So if I can't trust her, then I can't trust anybody."
Well, also, because, you know, hope is so smart that I --
And -- and she -- she actually -- she understands --
She's, like, science-smart, and she's also,
Like, street-smart at the same time.
So I would imagine for her it's probably like --
Really screws with her sense of, like, "how did I mi--
How did I miss that?"
Yeah, a hundred percent. I think that hope realizes
She's smart closer to the end.
So, in the beginning -- yeah, but al--
Hope is really good at calling bs and whatnot.
So I guess she is kind of disappointed in herself
Regarding the fact that she didn't realize
That huck was a bad guy and that she let her
Into her life so much.
Yeah, but on the other side, aliyah,
Iris is very intuitive.
Her intuition always seems to be spot-on,
And she was right about percy and huck.
But what -- at what point did it start to turn for her?
At what point do you think she was starting
To become convinced that huck was up to no good?
It was definitely that moment in the hallway
When we had split up into teams to just cover the house
And make sure it was safe.
And then huck is just like,
"oh, you -- it only took you weeks to get
What it took hope months to learn, blah-blah-blah."
And it's like the way to get me on your side
Is not by dissing my sister.
Like, that's not gonna work.
That's, like, immediate like --
"wait a minute. You love hope.
What are you saying right now?
It was -- it was an immediate tell.
Huck was, you know --
When we weren't onto her, she was pretty sneaky,
And -- and she was pretty smooth about it,
But she totally lost her finesse in that scene.
Hal, what do you think it says about silas
That he offers himself up to the crm to help his friends?
Yeah, I don't know. I think he definitely had to offer --
He couldn't have been like, "hey, guys.
Here's the plan. I'm gonna sacrifice myself."
So he definitely had to do it, like, quickly so that elton --
Because elton wouldn't have let that fly.
Probably not percy either. But I don't know.
I think he's just starting to learn, like, that --
They're starting to get used to these
Life-or-death situations, and he's just run the numbers,
And he's been like, "all right. [bleep]. I'm gonna do it."
But, like, he actually believes his life has purpose enough.
He believes that he's, like, strong enough to elton
And that type of thing that he'd rather him get sacrificed
So that they can go and help the girls
And for the greater good.
Just silas does a full turn-around.
You think he's a murderer, and then it's like, "whoa.
This guy's really good."
[ laughter ]
You guys...
That's the perfect way to encompass his arc.
Yeah.
Coming up, we're gonna be joined by nico tortorella,
Who plays felix, and executive producer matt negrete,
But, first, before you barbecue a rabbit
And then casually set fire to a building,
Let's slow things down and say a final farewell
To all those we've lost tonight.
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[growls]
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[growling]
[blade plunges, squish]
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Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition."
I am here with hal and aliyah and alexa and nicolas.
And we are now joined by nico tortorella
And matt negrete.
Thank you so much for being here, everyone.
Congratulations on the -- on season one.
Season one down! You did it!
You've done -- you've done season one.
Nico, a couple weeks ago, we talked about,
"hey, are we gonna see felix
In more action scenes, fight scenes?"
And you were like, "yeah, yeah, yeah."
I mean, I don't think anyone necessarily expected
That would be with huck.
Can you talk about what it was like shooting that?
Ooh. I mean, just from a production standpoint,
It was arguably the most difficult thing
That I've ever been a part of.
I mean, it was --
I think it was like 2:00 in the morning
When we started shooting that epic battle.
We trained for at least a month in terms of choreography.
It was freezing cold. Below zero.
We were in an abandoned house that barely had any floors,
Let alone windows.
On top of that, the house was on fire.
Just casual.
Um, and it took all night long
To really stage that -- that battle.
And from a character point of view,
I mean, felix is just heartbroken,
You know, in so many ways, devastated.
Um, the amount of betrayal.
But at the same time
Doing everything that he possibly can
To, "a," kick huck's ass
And, "b," protect iris and hope,
You know, from this -- this monster
That has been living in the house, so to speak,
From day one.
It was difficult
But the most gratifying thing I've ever done for sure.
Matt, it seemed like huck didn't know
About the massacre at the campus colony.
Why did her mom not tell her about that?
It's a good question.
You know, it does seem that mother and daughter
Are on the same page in some respects
But not in other respects.
I mean, we saw elizabeth give the girls
The map of new york in the pilot,
So obviously she's been on board
With this -- this whole plan from the beginning,
But I think it really does say something
About maybe her as a mother, but probably more importantly,
To how the crm operates in that her own daughter
Doesn't seem to know the extent of this operation,
The fact that the entire campus colony
Was, you know, essentially wiped out.
So, you know, it could speak to, you know,
Did she think maybe that huck wouldn't be on board?
Was it maybe just a need-to-know basis
And things were so siloed in the crm
That she didn't feel it was necessary to tell huck?
Or is there some other angle? So that's a --
It's definitely something we're gonna answer
Very early in season two.
Oh, excellent. Alexa, as a fan,
Can you talk about your reaction to seeing
Felix and will reunite?
I cried. I actually did cry.
I was watching it with my dog,
And he started, like, kissing my face and stuff
'cause he knew that I was sad or just really happy.
I don't know.
But I texted jelani the second that I saw the scene
And I just told him -- I was like, "this is incredible.
You and nico have so much chemistry on screen.
That I felt like I was watching a love story
About, like, war or something,
Like, where the boyfriend comes back from war
And they haven't seen each other in ages."
And to an extent. It's kind of like that.
But it just -- it warmed my heart,
And I really hope that we get to see a lot more of felix
And will in the show.
Yes. Huge and incredible shout-out to jelani alladin,
Who plays will.
And alexa's right, nico.
Your chemistry together was incredible.
And so how -- can you talk about,
You know, forming that kind of bond,
That kind of history in a moment, you know,
When all of a sudden you're on set
And you essentially have to tell the story about, you know,
How much these characters mean to each other?
Can you talk about how you both
Were able to pull off such wonderful chemistry?
Yeah, I mean, he's a beautiful human being,
So creating that chemistry
Right from the start wasn't that difficult.
But, you know, jelani is a new york actor
With a heart so big,
And he really -- he showed up
About three-quarters of the way through
Us filming the first season,
And he was a queer person that was showing up
On this set playing a queer character.
And that's really special.
Unfortunately somewhat rare still today.
But to have these -- these two queer human beings
In this relationship on television
Is -- is really important and meaningful,
And I think we both recognized that from day one.
It was beautiful. You both did such a wonderful job.
Thank you.
Well, coming up, we have an interview from the set
With annet mahendru, and then we're gonna take
A behind-the-scenes look at tonight's season finale
Of "world beyond."
We'll be right back on "talking dead: Home edition."
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Hope is a brilliant mind, and so she finds out that
Huck was planted on the campus and that hope is the asset
And that everyone else is expendable.
So because she's got all this great training
On this journey, she gathers up all her courage
And just walks off with huck on her own
To keep felix and iris safe at this point.
And then once they're walking together,
Hope pulls the gun on huck and says,
"hey, I know who you are."
And huck's got about two minutes to explain to hope what happened
And why she did all these things
And that she'll put her own life to save hope.
That's a lot.
And hope sees that deep in there,
And it's really heartbreaking,
And this is a moment where hope has grown up.
There's no other option.
Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition."
That was a annet mahendru talking a little bit about
The moment hope confronts huck on being a crm spy.
We're back with alexa and hal and nicolas and matt
And nico and aliyah.
This is from... Instagram.
Nico, how would you define felix and huck's friendship
Before her betrayal?
And how do you think felix sees her now?
They were best friends in so many ways.
They -- they leaned on each other for everything.
And I truly believe these two really did create this bond,
And I think there is still so much love there.
And I think you get to see that in those final moments
Of that fight, right?
But moving forward,
Felix is out for revenge immediately.
I mean, I think that there is just a heart on fire.
And not only for himself, but for his sisters,
For iris and hope, you know?
Like, he -- he will do anything to make sure
That they are safe and protected.
And I'm excited to see what -- what matt's got cooked.
Oh, y'all don't know yet?
-No. -No.
Yeah, we're breaking into it soon, though.
Okay, so, I just kind of want to understand the process, matt.
Like, where are you in the development of season two
And when do you start --
When do you start telling all the actors what's coming up?
And how much do you tell them?
Do you give them, like, the season arc or you're like,
"here's the first episode"?
What's your -- what's your process there?
Everyone leans in. "hmm."
What is your process, matt?
Yeah. Well -- yeah. [ laughs ]
Yeah, so, right now, you know, we should have been through --
Most of the way through filming,
But obviously the pandemic happened,
And so we pushed filming off to early 2021.
So the writers and I have been working nonstop
As if we were shooting.
So we've got a bunch of scripts banked right now,
And we're wrapping up season two.
I think we're breaking episode 9 starting tomorrow,
And we're rounding the corner on the season,
So we're almost there, and so, you know, it's funny.
Like, looking back to season one,
I remember at one point I think I called most of you
Just into my office in richmond that I had,
And I remember asking you guys, did you want to know
Ahead of time how things play out
Or did you want to know on the fly.
And I remember some of you were just like, "no. I just want to wait."
And some people were just like, "tell me everything!"
So I think -- I think for the most part, like, last season,
Pretty much everybody knew about the whole huck thing
Pretty -- pretty early on.
And so -- so I'm pretty open. I mean, I do think --
Like, I'll leave it up to you guys, like,
How much you guys want to know,
And so that's obviously a conversation
We'll all be having very soon.
But things are in the works.
How about this, matt? You don't have to answer this,
But I would love to go around the virtual room
And then just have everyone kind of ask
Their most burning question about their characters.
And you don't have to answer it,
But at least you'll know kind of where everyone's coming from.
So, does anyone -- like, right off the bat --
Alexa, do you want to go first? Yeah. Alexa. Alexa.
I see a hand up. Alexa?
Is hope gonna live?
[ laughter ]
Um...
She worried about that money.
Hope will definitely be in season two.
Before you signed on, matt, nicolas said
He wanted more stunts,
More action scenes, more walker kills.
-Yeah. -Yeah, I'm --
I'll say elton will wield some different weapons this season.
How about that?
That's all I ever wanted, matt thank you!
Making dreams come true.
Nico, did I see a hand go up? Do you have a question?
Oh, yes. I'm gonna just skip huck
And go straight to the source,
Straight to the dictator herself.
Can felix get to elizabeth?
Negrete: Oh.
[ laughter ]
Hmm. Um...
There will be, um -- there will be, uh,
Potentially an attempt.
You know, we'll see. There's gonna be some --
There's gonna be some stuff.
I love this. This is like showrunner poker.
Dropping some bombs.
This is like showrunner poker trying to read your tells.
Like, okay, he scratched his chin that time. Does that mean --
Yeah, the chin stroke that says a thousand words.
I'm trying to mix it up. I'm trying to mix it up.
Hal, do you have any questions for matt?
Can I --
Is there "walking dead" movies going ahead?
[ laughter ]
And can I get me some?
Fair question.
We'll see. We'll see.
I will defer to mr. Gimple on the movies.
But, uh, you know, there's some stuff churning.
Aliyah?
So, I don't want to ask anything about elizabeth
Or the way iris gets her sister back,
But I will ask --
Okay. Just so I can be clear.
Is it iris and percy or is it iris and silas?
Ooh. Um, we're going to explore all of that.
Whoa!
[ indistinct speaking ]
I have to say, matt, you've done an --
You've done an excellent job
Of shrouding the truth in mystery
But still revealing -- but, like, giving some --
Some tantalizing reveals.
You've done a very nice job of allowing us
To put you on the spot like this.
I love it. I love it. Just a little tease.
-Thank you, matt! Whoo! -Thank you.
Thank you. Yeah, it's huge round of applause for matt negrete.
For not exploding under the pressure.
Burning questions of your cast.
Coming up, we're gonna have a behind-the-scenes look
At the season finale of "world beyond."
We'll be right back.
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We are in a town called goochland in virginia.
It is in powhatan county.
Finding a location like this requires a scout
With a lot of gas in their tank
To find these out-of-the-way locations
And then find out who owns the property.
On this property,
We affectionately call it state farm.
It's several penitentiaries.
It's also a working farm for the inmates.
That's why none of us can wear orange here.
Otherwise, they'll think we're an inmate
And they will take us away.
Part of episodes 9 and 10 were shot around this state farm,
And as they appear, they're gonna be pennsylvania,
They're gonna be new york.
We can give you so many different looks in this one area.
And working from just one central base camp,
It's very beneficial to us.
Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition."
That was a behind-the-scenes look at tonight's season finale.
Nico, was that true that no one was allowed to wear orange
'cause you were shooting on prison property?
This is a fact.
And for whatever reason, I think it was just 'cause
Living in the sticks in virginia for long enough --
I was wearing a lot of camo and a lot of bright orange.
It just -- I became virginia.
And I always would forget. I would show --
I would show up to set in, like, a neon-orange hoodie.
And it would be like, "take that off!"
And I would, like, immediately have to change.
It would be so funny because they would give out
That message, right? They would say, "don't wear orange."
And the only person who showed up in orange was nico.
The only guy, only person.
The real story that I feel like we all need to talk about
That house was the cow. Do we rem--
Oh, no. The c-- I forgot about the cow.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
-Cow? -The day be--
The cow. The day before we started shooting at that house,
There was a cow that died on the property.
-Ohh. -And they buried the cow
Right in front of the house in order to decompose.
Oh, my god.
The stink. The stink, y'all...
Ugh. It was vile.
But, also, like, it really felt like "the walking dead,"
And I feel like they did it on purpose.
Like, I'm a method actor, so it's like...
Yeah. Yeah. You smelled the death.
Nico asked for the cow to be buried.
Alexa and aliyah, what do you remember most
About the scenes where the house was burning down?
It was hot, but, like, because it was so cold outside,
It felt really, really good, amazingly good.
And I think there was one take, alexa, where you come down the stairs,
And there's flames right next to you,
But you can still see your breath, which was crazy.
It was that cold.
That was definitely like living in two different temperatures
'cause it was freezing, 'cause that house had no insulation at all.
But when you're close to those flames
When we're running down the stairs and --
And we could only do that scene so many times anyway
Because you can start to see, like, the burns on the wall.
It was -- that was one of, like, most fun things that we did.
Again, no stunt doubles. Just us running through the fire.
It felt like the stakes were so much higher, too,
'cause there was a fire and it was like a real fire.
So when we were doing it -- I don't know.
It just felt more, like, risky and dangerous
And all this kind of stuff, and it made it all that more exciting.
And sort of talking about -- sort of talking about the --
On the performer side of having this adventure
In the first season -- on the character side,
Aliyah, what do you think iris' dad
Would think of the person
That she has become throughout this adventure?
She's not a little girl anymore, you know?
I think there's a lot of awesome things about iris
In the way that she wanted to follow in her father's footsteps
By studying bio-immunology.
Again, she still wants to be a part of the solution
And make something good of this undead world,
But I think her dad would be proud of her independence.
I mean, I don't know what happens in season two,
But if I had to assume, that they did meet again,
You know, they finally had their reunion,
I think that he would just be so surprised
By the young woman that he sees before him.
Matt, we should be worried for leo, right?
I mean, his girlfriend secretly works for the crm.
Leo's telling her they seem shady.
So what -- what's happening?
Yeah, you know, that's not a good situation for leo, is it?
His girlfriend's hardcore crm.
He's about to spill the beans in terms of this plan
To unearth some dirt on them.
And -- and, yeah, he's gonna spoil everything.
And what is she gonna do with that information,
You know, once he tells her?
So it's really setting up a lot of stuff
That we're gonna be exploring in season two,
But, you know, it's interesting that, in a lot of ways,
It looks like leo's had it pretty cushy
For most of season one. He doesn't know his daughters
Are going through hell across country,
But he's just having a nice dinner
With his girlfriend.
And I think based on what we know and what he doesn't know,
It seems like things might come crashing down for him
Potentially.
Nicolas, what does it say about elton that he seems
More forgiving of hope than he does of his mom
The night the sky fell?
I think it shows I guess like --
I mean, first off, it wasn't how I thought that was gonna go.
When I heard that, you know, hope killed elton's mom,
I was like, "oh, elton's gonna flip out
And go full villain mode." right. That's what I thought.
But really what happened was he has this image
Of what he thought his mom was
Because he was raised by her up until 5 years old,
And so he's been living with almost like this manifestation
Of who he thought she was.
And once he realizes that she's a killer
And she's kind of a hypocrite to all of her teachings,
It kind of breaks elton, man. I mean, in episode 9,
He's throwing the manuscript that he held so dear
Away from him. He's casting it to the wind.
And so it really shows that elton, I guess --
He really had his world rocked there.
And even though I thought
He was gonna flip out, like, in a villain way.
He flipped out in more like an introspective way.
I mean, dude, he was going through a psychosis
On that hill. It really messed him up.
So I think elton's going forward
With a completely new perspective
On what "the wind always wins" means
So, it's interesting that you bring that up
And sort of the idea of having some sort of a tether
That keeps someone from going full villain.
There is a question for hal
From dane russell on instagram, who says
"hal, if not for elton's loyalty,
Do you think silas could have developed into a villain?"
Um, I don't know. Like, yes, possibly.
But I feel like -- I don't know if silas
Is really -- was smart enough
When he was walking away. Like, he would have had to go.
And I thought the only way silas becomes a villain
Is if he, like, infiltrates a group,
And he's obviously not very good at, like, making friends
Or convincing people to do anything.
So, I mean, I'd like to think so,
But I feel like it's more realistic
That he probably would have just gone
And been, like, a weird person by himself in the woods
And probably never seen anyone.
Not been very interesting for the storyline.
So thank god he runs into elton.
[ laughter ]
I'm the sav--
I saved you from becoming a crazy hermit in the woods.
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The season one finale of "walking dead: World beyond,"
And then matt is gonna tell us what to expect for season two,
Which starts shooting in not too long.
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Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition."
We're back with the "world beyond" cast
And matt negrete, the showrunner.
Alexa, do you think hope was bluffing when she held
The gun to her head to stop huck from killing felix?
Yes and no.
Just because her sister was there,
And I don't think hope would have shot herself
In front of her own sister.
I don't think she has the heart to put iris through
Seeing something like that.
But at the same time, hope is the kind of person
That'll 100% sacrifice herself for everybody else.
And I think if iris hadn't been there,
There's a big chance that hope would have just shot herself
To get huck off her back.
Because without hope -- I mean, without hope,
Huck thinks that, like, that's what she needs and whatnot.
So if hope is gone, then I guess everyone's kind of off the hook.
But, no, I don't really think she was bluffing too much
Aside from iris being there.
Okay. Aliyah, this is a question from...Twitter.
Okay, I don't --
A little bit confrontational of a question.
"do you think it was iris' speech that got
The campus colony wiped out in the first episode?
-Ooh. -Wow.
Oh, gosh. Are you mad? Oh. Oh. I'm so sorry.
There was -- I -- it was a fan question.
That is so crazy. [ laughs ]
Yes, I feel so bad about that, too.
Oh, no!
I feel like...
You know what? I feel like things were going smoothly.
Elizabeth was like, "they're not onto me or my plans.
I gave them a map. Everything's great."
And then iris -- you know, hope calls bs,
You know, in a very calm manner, I'd say, in private.
And then iris was like, "I'm gonna take that a step further
And embarrass the civic republic
In front of the entire campus colony.
That, you know, "I don't trust you" moment --
That is -- that was --
I think elizabeth had to head to plan b,
And I feel bad about that.
But it was her. It wasn't me.
[ laughter ]
I really expected you to be like,
"no! Of course not! What a horrible question!"
Like, "yeah, I got to be honest.
I've been carrying that around."
My whole karate class is gone because of you.
I can't believe that.
[ laughter ]
One speech, no more dances.
You know? It was like... That was that.
This is sort of a -- sort of a more general fun question.
And I guess I can open this up for everyone.
But we'll start with hal.
From zoltan...
Hal, if your character could have a pet...
Zoltan!
If your character could have a pet,
What would they have?
What would -- what would silas have?
I feel like a dog probably would do well with silas.
It's not a very fun pet to bring up.
Um, all right. Well, no dog.
Let's go for a snake. Snake.
Oh, you [bleep].
Wait. Did hal just take yours?
Were you gonna say snake?
Yeah. I feel like he has to have a dog.
I just thought of -- what's a try-hard answer?
And then I knew -- let's do something nico would say.
[ laughter ]
By the way, nico, you can have a different kind of snake
Or you can have a monitor lizard or a komodo dragon.
Like, there's a -- there's a lot of, you know --
I guess I'll take a dog.
-Aww. -Nick, what about you?
I don't really think pets are that useful in an apocalypse
If they don't grant you any immediate bonus
Like a wolf or a tiger.
I mean, shiva was the ultimate pet.
-Yeah. -May she rest in peace.
But I think elton would go with
Probably the least effective, like, helper.
A tortoise.
I think elton would really have a tortoise speak to him.
Slow and steady wins the race.
Just a tiny little guy in a shell that he carries --
Yeah. That's the perfect elton pet I think.
I mean, it could be a small tortoise
Or it could be one of those, like, 200-year-old,
Like, 300-pound...
Galápagos tortoise.
Yeah.
We can just give him all of our bags.
And we'll get everything two times slower, but...
Dude, you come riding in on that tortoise, and people
Are like, "there's something really f'd up about that guy.
He's riding a tortoise, and that's weird.
So he must be insane."
"he's not going anywhere, but he looks cool, man."
"he looks really cool." matt, I notice you're not typing
"galápagos tortoise with a saddle,"
And I'm just kind of curious as to why.
I'm doing it very subtly under the monitor.
Okay. Good.
Yeah. It's going in there. It's going in.
You don't want to give too much away.
Matt, we know that the crm is looking for a's and b's.
Do you -- do you know what that designation means?
You must, right?
Oh, yeah. No, I know --
I know what the a's are. I know what the b's are. Yeah.
Just from working on "walking dead"
The past few seasons, you know, as soon as that came up,
We had long conversations about what that was,
And so, yeah, I definitely know, and, you know,
People that watched rick's last episode --
You know, jadis,
You know, said that he was an "a"
But then, you know, she reclassified him as a "b"
At the last second, and then on our show,
You know, there was that dr. Abbott fellow from portland
Who seemed like a fine chap
Except for he was an empty with a bite on him.
And, you know, one of the doctors
Was experimenting on him, and so obviously
Maybe rick lucked out that he wasn't an "a."
So I do know, and, yeah, there will be more to come.
Well, are the majority of characters on "world beyond"
A's or b's?
Without giving away or revealing what that is.
I would say there's a good number of a's in there.
I think there's some b's.
Um, uh, I'll say --
I'll say elizabeth's an "a." she seems like an "a" to me.
Um...
Yeah. It's a good mix. Good mix.
Are we gonna find out soon what that is?
I have no idea what that means.
Yeah, I'm like, "you're just saying letters, man."
[ laughter ]
I'm sorry, chris. What was the question?
I was saying do you think maybe in season two
Will start to reveal what that means.
We'll see some hints, you know.
We're gonna know more about what was going on,
You know, with the doctor on the slab
That the girl's father's girlfriend was working on.
And we'll get more into that.
So little bit of backstory there.
And that may reveal some things to the audience.
All right. We have to take a quick break.
We're gonna have more "mega talking dead: Home edition"
When we come back. We'll see you in a few.
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Welcome back to "talking dead: Home edition."
We're back.
"world beyond" is the discussion now
After the season-one finale.
Quick question for alexa.
What do you think hope's smile represented
As she flew off in the helicopter
At the end of the episode?
I think that she has gotten everyone to believe
That she's being cooperative and that she's gonna go along
With everything that they're doing.
But I think the second that she gets to wherever it is
Elizabeth is taking her, hope has a plan,
And she is gonna -- she's gonna mess things up.
Matt, what can you tease --
We've kind of danced around next season.
You've done a very elegant job of revealing without revealing.
But what can you tease about next season,
And how much of the inner workings of the crm
Are we gonna actually see?
We're definitely gonna be seeing some new worlds.
Many of them are directly related or tied into the crm.
We're gonna learn more about their operation, how they work,
And why they do what they do.
And in general, we're really gonna see these characters
Grow up even more.
We're gonna throw everything but the kitchen sink at them,
And they're gonna find themselves
Essentially being the adults now.
It's like the stakes have been raised so high
That it literally is the weight of the world on their shoulders
But also the fate of the world are resting on their shoulders.
So there's gonna be a lot of action, a lot of stakes,
And I'm excited for people to check it out.
Thank you, all, so much for all of your time this season.
It's been a genuine pleasure to get to know you a bit
Doing these shows. Congratulations on season one.
I can't wait to see what happens in season two.
And good luck going back into that in a couple of months.
This has been "talking dead" for the season finale,
The season-one finale of "world beyond."
My guests have been aliyah royale, alexa mansour,
Nicolas cantu, hal cumpston, nico tortorella,
And, of course, matt negrete,
Executive producer and showrunner.
I am chris hardwick. In December, we're gonna do
The first-ever "walking dead" holiday special.
That's gonna be available on amc plus.
So go to all of our social accounts
To find out details about that.
And in the meantime, please stay safe and healthy
And take care of each other out there.
I'm chris hardwick. Take care. We'll see you soon.
Bye-bye. "talking dead: Home edition."
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