1 00:00:19,746 --> 00:00:24,946 Sync and corrections by explosiveskull BluRay resync by GoldenBeard www.addic7ed.com 2 00:00:25,575 --> 00:00:29,677 And with that movie 2001, you're projecting us into the 21st century. 3 00:00:29,678 --> 00:00:31,679 - I brought along my son Jonathan... - Hi. 4 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,417 Who in the year 2001 will be the same age as I am now. 5 00:00:35,418 --> 00:00:40,521 Maybe he will be better adjusted to this kind of world that you're trying to portray. 6 00:00:40,522 --> 00:00:42,490 The big difference, when he grows up... 7 00:00:42,491 --> 00:00:44,660 In fact, if we wanted to wait till the year 2001... 8 00:00:44,661 --> 00:00:47,762 He will have in his own house 9 00:00:47,763 --> 00:00:50,966 not a computer as big as this, but at least a console 10 00:00:50,967 --> 00:00:54,670 through which he can talk to his friendly local computer 11 00:00:54,671 --> 00:00:56,972 and get all the information he needs for his everyday life, 12 00:00:56,973 --> 00:01:00,508 like his bank statements, his theater reservations, 13 00:01:00,509 --> 00:01:05,948 all the information you need in the course of living in a complex modern society. 14 00:01:05,949 --> 00:01:10,052 This will be in a compact form in his own house. 15 00:01:10,053 --> 00:01:13,421 He'll have a television screen, like these here, and a keyboard. 16 00:01:13,422 --> 00:01:15,790 And he'll talk to the computer and get information from it. 17 00:01:15,791 --> 00:01:18,560 And he'll take it as much for granted as we take the telephone. 18 00:01:18,561 --> 00:01:21,829 I wonder, though, what sort of a life would it be like in social terms? 19 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:24,566 I mean, if our whole life is built around the computer, 20 00:01:24,567 --> 00:01:26,668 do we become a computer-dependent society? 21 00:01:26,669 --> 00:01:29,704 In some ways, but they will also enrich our society 22 00:01:29,705 --> 00:01:33,508 because it will make it possible for us to live, really, anywhere we like. 23 00:01:33,509 --> 00:01:38,346 Any businessman and executive could live almost anywhere on Earth 24 00:01:38,347 --> 00:01:40,948 and still do his business through a device like this. 25 00:01:40,949 --> 00:01:44,552 And this is a wonderful thing. It means we won't have to be stuck in cities. 26 00:01:44,553 --> 00:01:48,357 We'll be able to live out in the country or wherever we please. 27 00:01:52,928 --> 00:01:54,930 Screen says it's an unimplemented trap. 28 00:01:54,931 --> 00:01:57,533 But the error code is wrong. It's a system error. 29 00:01:57,534 --> 00:01:59,734 - So what's the upshot? - It's not gonna say hello. 30 00:01:59,735 --> 00:02:01,170 It absolutely is gonna say hello. 31 00:02:01,171 --> 00:02:03,638 - It's nobody's fault. It's a system error. - You built the voice demo. 32 00:02:03,639 --> 00:02:05,674 - The voice demo is flaky. - Keep your voices down. 33 00:02:05,675 --> 00:02:07,742 I've been telling you that for... This thing is overbuilt. 34 00:02:07,743 --> 00:02:10,011 It worked last night. It worked the night before that. 35 00:02:10,012 --> 00:02:11,347 It worked three hours ago. 36 00:02:11,348 --> 00:02:14,483 - It's not working now, so just skip over the voice demo. - Fuck you. 37 00:02:14,484 --> 00:02:15,818 - Everything else is working. - Shh. 38 00:02:15,819 --> 00:02:17,519 Skip over the voice demo. 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,021 We need it to say hello. 40 00:02:19,022 --> 00:02:22,623 - You're not hearing me. It's not going to say hello. - Just fix it. 41 00:02:22,624 --> 00:02:23,925 - Fix it? - Yeah. 42 00:02:26,629 --> 00:02:27,763 - In 40 minutes? - Fix it. 43 00:02:27,764 --> 00:02:29,630 - I can't. - Who's the person who can? 44 00:02:29,631 --> 00:02:32,335 I'm the person who can, and I can't. 45 00:02:34,069 --> 00:02:35,636 - How bad are you saying? - It's pretty bad. 46 00:02:35,637 --> 00:02:39,441 - I don't know what that means. - It means the demo is more than likely gonna crash. 47 00:02:39,442 --> 00:02:40,842 You have to keep your voices down. 48 00:02:40,843 --> 00:02:42,878 Joel Pforzheimer is sitting out in the house. 49 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:45,447 I don't care if... Who's Joel Pforzheimer? 50 00:02:45,448 --> 00:02:46,914 GQ. 51 00:02:46,915 --> 00:02:49,617 He's been shadowing you for a week. Did you notice? 52 00:02:49,618 --> 00:02:51,486 Just look like everything's fine. 53 00:02:51,487 --> 00:02:53,889 He's sitting out in the house. 54 00:02:53,890 --> 00:02:55,425 Hey. 55 00:02:56,725 --> 00:02:59,128 What are you guys saying? 56 00:02:59,129 --> 00:03:02,698 Some kind of race condition, but we haven't been able to track it down yet. 57 00:03:02,699 --> 00:03:04,165 Is the synthesizer sampling fast enough? 58 00:03:04,166 --> 00:03:06,901 No, so the rates are off and it keeps crashing. 59 00:03:06,902 --> 00:03:09,872 It's 20 seconds out of a two-hour launch. Why not just cut it? 60 00:03:09,873 --> 00:03:11,507 - We can't cut it. - Yeah, you just cut it. 61 00:03:11,508 --> 00:03:15,510 Two days ago, we ran a Super Bowl ad that could've won the Oscar for Best Short Film. 62 00:03:15,511 --> 00:03:18,880 There are more people who can tell you about the ad than can tell you who won the game. 63 00:03:18,881 --> 00:03:21,749 I understand, but the ad said the Mac was gonna save the world. 64 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:23,885 It didn't say it was gonna say hello. 65 00:03:23,886 --> 00:03:25,687 We open the house in five. 66 00:03:25,688 --> 00:03:28,157 Don't open the house. 67 00:03:28,158 --> 00:03:29,724 We're taking a quick break. 68 00:03:29,725 --> 00:03:31,259 - Part of the problem is... - What? 69 00:03:31,260 --> 00:03:35,431 We can recompile, but if it's a hardware problem, we can't get into the back. 70 00:03:35,432 --> 00:03:36,998 Why not? 71 00:03:36,999 --> 00:03:39,835 - Do you wanna tell her or should I? - Don't start with me, man. 72 00:03:39,836 --> 00:03:42,204 - Why can't he get into the machine? - You need special tools. 73 00:03:42,205 --> 00:03:44,806 What kind of special tools? Just take a screwdriver. 74 00:03:44,807 --> 00:03:46,842 He didn't want users to be able to open it. 75 00:03:46,843 --> 00:03:49,812 You need special tools. 76 00:03:49,813 --> 00:03:51,347 Is this for real? 77 00:03:51,348 --> 00:03:54,483 There are a hundred engineers walking around here. None of them have the tools? 78 00:03:54,484 --> 00:03:56,985 In fairness, not many of them were issued the tools. 79 00:03:56,986 --> 00:04:01,156 - What about you? - I left them at the office. It was 3:00 AM when I... 80 00:04:01,157 --> 00:04:02,758 Oh, Jesus Christ. 81 00:04:02,759 --> 00:04:04,826 - Cut "Hello." - No. 82 00:04:04,827 --> 00:04:07,028 - What's the first rule of a launch? - It's not gonna crash. 83 00:04:07,029 --> 00:04:08,597 It just did. 84 00:04:08,598 --> 00:04:09,664 Andy! 85 00:04:09,665 --> 00:04:11,532 Which one? 86 00:04:11,533 --> 00:04:13,701 The other Andy. You're right there. Why would I be calling out? 87 00:04:13,702 --> 00:04:15,069 - He needs to talk to you. - Yeah. 88 00:04:15,070 --> 00:04:18,240 The exit signs need to be off or we're not gonna get a full blackout. 89 00:04:18,241 --> 00:04:21,009 - We've spoken to the building manager and the fire marshal. - And? 90 00:04:21,010 --> 00:04:23,077 There's no way they're gonna let us turn the exit signs off. 91 00:04:23,078 --> 00:04:25,247 I'll pay whatever the fine is. 92 00:04:25,248 --> 00:04:27,615 The fine is they're gonna come in and tell everyone to leave. 93 00:04:27,616 --> 00:04:29,884 You explained to the fire marshal that we're in here changing the world? 94 00:04:29,885 --> 00:04:33,855 I did, but unless we can also change the properties of fire, he doesn't care. 95 00:04:33,856 --> 00:04:36,492 - Steve... - If a fire causes a stampede to the unmarked exits, 96 00:04:36,493 --> 00:04:38,894 it'll have been well worth it for those who survive. 97 00:04:38,895 --> 00:04:41,497 For those who don't, less so, but still pretty good. 98 00:04:41,498 --> 00:04:44,199 - Look, I... - I need it to go black. Real black. 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,134 Get rid of the exit signs and don't let me know how you did it. 100 00:04:47,135 --> 00:04:49,539 Fix the voice demo. 101 00:04:52,976 --> 00:04:55,511 You need special tools to open the Mac? 102 00:04:55,512 --> 00:04:57,278 You knew it was a closed system. 103 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,915 I didn't know literally. Jesus. 104 00:04:59,916 --> 00:05:02,117 And if you keep alienating people for no reason, 105 00:05:02,118 --> 00:05:04,752 there's gonna be no one left for it to say hello to. 106 00:05:04,753 --> 00:05:06,120 It's not for no reason. 107 00:05:06,121 --> 00:05:09,658 We blow this and IBM will own the next 50 years like a Batman villain. 108 00:05:09,659 --> 00:05:12,995 Remember the phone company? That's what Bell was called, "the phone company." 109 00:05:12,996 --> 00:05:15,062 IBM will be the computer company. 110 00:05:15,063 --> 00:05:17,766 Ten years later they'll be the information company, 111 00:05:17,767 --> 00:05:20,168 and that's very bad for the human race. 112 00:05:20,169 --> 00:05:22,971 So we don't have time to be polite or realistic, 113 00:05:22,972 --> 00:05:25,540 'cause if we are, this company's next product launch 114 00:05:25,541 --> 00:05:27,108 will be held in front of 26 people 115 00:05:27,109 --> 00:05:29,944 and a stringer from the Alameda County Shopper's Guide. 116 00:05:29,945 --> 00:05:32,047 We haven't advertised the voice software. 117 00:05:32,048 --> 00:05:35,951 We could pull it out of the demo and no one would be disappointed. 118 00:05:35,952 --> 00:05:38,052 Do you want to try being reasonable, 119 00:05:38,053 --> 00:05:42,291 just, you know, see what it feels like? 120 00:05:43,792 --> 00:05:48,096 Okay. Pull the voice demo. 121 00:05:48,097 --> 00:05:49,031 Thank you. 122 00:05:49,032 --> 00:05:51,165 And then cancel the launch. 123 00:05:51,166 --> 00:05:52,668 I see. You just tricked me a little. 124 00:05:52,669 --> 00:05:56,305 You can tell me how unimportant it is, but if the computer doesn't say hello, 125 00:05:56,306 --> 00:06:00,041 then neither will John Sculley, who I promise you agrees with me. 126 00:06:00,042 --> 00:06:03,711 Sculley's not gonna cancel the launch 'cause he's not insane. 127 00:06:03,712 --> 00:06:05,947 He's also not a hack, and when it comes to the Macintosh, 128 00:06:05,948 --> 00:06:07,649 he's gonna do what I ask him to do. 129 00:06:07,650 --> 00:06:10,185 - What's in this box? - Nothing you need to worry about. 130 00:06:10,186 --> 00:06:11,720 Don't even open it. 131 00:06:11,721 --> 00:06:13,754 What the fuck? 132 00:06:13,755 --> 00:06:16,692 Why is there a carton of... Who did this? 133 00:06:16,693 --> 00:06:18,427 - Somebody thought... - Who? 134 00:06:18,428 --> 00:06:22,697 Doesn't matter. Thought it would be a good idea to have copies of that Time cover 135 00:06:22,698 --> 00:06:24,233 available at everyone's seat. 136 00:06:24,234 --> 00:06:27,302 It was nipped in the bud and all the copies are being taken out of the building. 137 00:06:27,303 --> 00:06:28,937 So problem solved. 138 00:06:28,938 --> 00:06:31,872 - This isn't a Macintosh. - I understand. 139 00:06:31,873 --> 00:06:33,975 Somebody thought it would be a good idea to, like, 140 00:06:33,976 --> 00:06:38,747 enthusiastically hand over copies of Time with a not-a-Macintosh on the cover 141 00:06:38,748 --> 00:06:40,382 at the launch of the Macintosh? 142 00:06:40,383 --> 00:06:42,283 What are they handing out at Hewlett-Packard? 143 00:06:42,284 --> 00:06:44,286 A bushel of apples with my face on them? 144 00:06:44,287 --> 00:06:47,889 I'm sure the thinking was that since the computer is Man of the Year 145 00:06:47,890 --> 00:06:49,358 that that's good for our business, 146 00:06:49,359 --> 00:06:51,759 but like I said, I'm having them removed from the building. 147 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,129 What I'd like you to do with them is to take them, all 2,600 copies, 148 00:06:55,130 --> 00:06:56,932 and stack them on Kottke's desk 149 00:06:56,933 --> 00:06:59,033 and tell him Steve says, "Happy New Year to you." 150 00:06:59,034 --> 00:06:59,935 Okay. 151 00:06:59,936 --> 00:07:02,204 I gave Time magazine full access. 152 00:07:02,205 --> 00:07:04,906 The whole campus: Bandley, Apple II, Lisa. 153 00:07:04,907 --> 00:07:09,411 I gave him Sculley, Markkula. I gave him Woz. I gave him everybody. 154 00:07:09,412 --> 00:07:12,781 What should I call the person who thought it'd be a good idea to hand these out? 155 00:07:12,782 --> 00:07:15,016 I'm not telling you who it was. 156 00:07:15,017 --> 00:07:17,386 It was done without malice. It's been taken care of. 157 00:07:17,387 --> 00:07:20,254 You have a half hour and we have things to talk about. 158 00:07:20,255 --> 00:07:21,923 Like what? 159 00:07:21,924 --> 00:07:25,793 Like a million in the first 90 days. 160 00:07:25,794 --> 00:07:27,194 - Joanna... - 20,000 a month after that. 161 00:07:27,195 --> 00:07:28,562 - Look. Those are the forecasts. - I'm begging... 162 00:07:28,563 --> 00:07:34,403 This is my field. I'm begging you to manage expectations out there. 163 00:07:34,404 --> 00:07:38,939 - I'm fanning expectations. - We're not gonna sell a million in the first 90 days. 164 00:07:38,940 --> 00:07:42,744 Everyone, everyone, everyone, 165 00:07:42,745 --> 00:07:45,312 everyone is waiting for the Mac. 166 00:07:45,313 --> 00:07:47,115 Maybe. 167 00:07:47,116 --> 00:07:50,018 But what happens when they find out that for 2,495, 168 00:07:50,019 --> 00:07:53,120 there's nothing you can do with it? 169 00:07:53,121 --> 00:07:55,423 We were competitive at $1,500, 170 00:07:55,424 --> 00:07:59,360 but once you replaced the Motorola 6809 with the 68000... 171 00:07:59,361 --> 00:08:03,098 Which is what supports menus, windows, point and click, high-res graphics... 172 00:08:03,099 --> 00:08:06,334 Yeah, 'cause everyone needs rectangles with rounded corners. 173 00:08:06,335 --> 00:08:10,907 Coach lands on the runway at the exact same time as first class. 174 00:08:13,241 --> 00:08:16,778 I don't have the first fucking idea what that means, 175 00:08:16,779 --> 00:08:18,747 but this is how it got to $2,500, 176 00:08:18,748 --> 00:08:22,084 which is the price point on the PC, which can do a lot more! 177 00:08:22,085 --> 00:08:25,353 Who's gonna want a PC? What idiot is gonna want... 178 00:08:25,354 --> 00:08:28,889 If I wanna tell you there's a spot on your shirt, I point to the spot. 179 00:08:28,890 --> 00:08:32,827 I don't say there's a spot 14 centimeters down from the collar 180 00:08:32,828 --> 00:08:34,796 and three centimeters to the right of the second button 181 00:08:34,797 --> 00:08:37,932 while I try to remember what the command is for club soda. 182 00:08:37,933 --> 00:08:39,934 That's not how a person's mind works. 183 00:08:39,935 --> 00:08:44,740 If the goal was ease of use, maybe you should've given it some memory. 184 00:08:44,741 --> 00:08:47,374 You can complain about memory or you can complain about price, 185 00:08:47,375 --> 00:08:50,445 but you can't do both at the same time. 186 00:08:50,446 --> 00:08:52,413 Memory is what costs money. 187 00:08:52,414 --> 00:08:54,883 I'm glad you're telling me your feelings about the Mac now 188 00:08:54,884 --> 00:08:56,518 because we have a half hour left. 189 00:08:56,519 --> 00:08:58,153 We can redesign it. 190 00:08:58,154 --> 00:09:00,889 I'm just asking you to manage expectations. 191 00:09:00,890 --> 00:09:02,857 Look at their faces when they see what it is. 192 00:09:02,858 --> 00:09:06,193 They won't know what they're looking at or why they like it, 193 00:09:06,194 --> 00:09:08,230 but they'll know they want it. 194 00:09:08,231 --> 00:09:10,999 Not instantly. When people heard Rite of Spring, 195 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,235 they tore the chairs out of the theater. 196 00:09:13,236 --> 00:09:14,436 They didn't buy the record. 197 00:09:14,437 --> 00:09:17,371 Rite of Spring happens to be the most revolutionary 198 00:09:17,372 --> 00:09:19,039 and provocative symphony of the last century. 199 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,375 Ballet. It was a ballet. 200 00:09:21,376 --> 00:09:25,246 But Igor Stravinsky didn't say he was gonna sell 20,000 units a month. 201 00:09:25,247 --> 00:09:27,883 I don't know why we're talking about Stravinsky 202 00:09:27,884 --> 00:09:32,086 when what I care about is Dan Kottke sodomizing me in Time magazine. 203 00:09:32,087 --> 00:09:36,390 Look. Obviously... 204 00:09:36,391 --> 00:09:38,360 Let me say this to you. 205 00:09:38,361 --> 00:09:41,462 Obviously, Daniel didn't think he was doing anything wrong. 206 00:09:41,463 --> 00:09:45,033 - By talking to Time about it? - Yeah. 207 00:09:45,034 --> 00:09:47,067 I don't know what that means. 208 00:09:47,068 --> 00:09:49,804 You said, when you told me the story... 209 00:09:49,805 --> 00:09:51,907 You said you said to Dan, 210 00:09:51,908 --> 00:09:54,842 "Did Time magazine ask you if I had a daughter named Lisa?" 211 00:09:54,843 --> 00:09:56,378 And Dan said, "Yeah." 212 00:09:57,847 --> 00:10:01,316 My point was that he answered you simply and honestly 213 00:10:01,317 --> 00:10:03,451 because he didn't think he'd done anything wrong. 214 00:10:03,452 --> 00:10:08,222 Except, Joanna... Except I don't have a daughter named Lisa. 215 00:10:08,223 --> 00:10:12,159 And this story is now about how I'm denying paternity and took a blood test. 216 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,496 And that's why there's a picture of... I don't know what the fuck that is. 217 00:10:15,497 --> 00:10:17,999 That's why there's a picture of a PC on the cover 218 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,570 instead of a picture of me and the Mac. 219 00:10:21,571 --> 00:10:23,938 I don't know what to tell you. 220 00:10:23,939 --> 00:10:27,609 I was supposed to be Time magazine's Man of the Year. 221 00:10:27,610 --> 00:10:30,279 And then Dan Kottke was born. 222 00:10:35,116 --> 00:10:37,085 - Well... - What? 223 00:10:37,086 --> 00:10:41,188 - She's waiting for you. - Who? 224 00:10:41,189 --> 00:10:43,158 - Chrisann. - Brennan? 225 00:10:43,159 --> 00:10:44,625 They're out in the hall. 226 00:10:44,626 --> 00:10:48,129 They've been sitting in the back of the auditorium since 7:00 this morning. 227 00:10:48,130 --> 00:10:51,566 I'm not having a session with Chrisann right now. 228 00:10:51,567 --> 00:10:55,269 We issued 335 press credentials for the launch. 229 00:10:55,270 --> 00:10:58,273 Steve, you piss off Chrisann, 230 00:10:58,274 --> 00:11:01,543 she's gonna stand in the lobby and give 335 interviews, 231 00:11:01,544 --> 00:11:06,783 and you, pal, will be longing for the halcyon days of Dan Kottke. 232 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:11,219 Let me get this over with. 233 00:11:11,220 --> 00:11:13,520 But don't leave. You're gonna stay here. 234 00:11:13,521 --> 00:11:14,956 What? No. I'm not. 235 00:11:14,957 --> 00:11:18,426 No. There's less of a chance of a scene if you stay here. She'll be cool. 236 00:11:18,427 --> 00:11:23,298 I find all this excruciatingly personal and-and... 237 00:11:23,299 --> 00:11:25,933 I-I'm... I'm not staying. 238 00:11:25,934 --> 00:11:27,434 No. Come on. 239 00:11:27,435 --> 00:11:30,639 I don't wanna be in a room alone with Chrisann. 240 00:11:33,509 --> 00:11:35,945 This is me and you. 241 00:11:39,448 --> 00:11:40,917 Fine. 242 00:11:48,624 --> 00:11:50,093 Hey. 243 00:11:53,629 --> 00:11:55,931 Steve. 244 00:11:55,932 --> 00:11:57,298 This is a surprise. 245 00:11:57,299 --> 00:11:59,600 Why don't you come on in? 246 00:11:59,601 --> 00:12:01,837 Thank you. 247 00:12:04,073 --> 00:12:06,474 - You coming too? - Yes, I'm not gonna leave her in the hallway. 248 00:12:06,475 --> 00:12:08,943 Okay. It's a safe hallway, but anyway. 249 00:12:08,944 --> 00:12:11,712 You remember Joanna Hoffman? She's the head of marketing for the Mac. 250 00:12:11,713 --> 00:12:14,182 Good to see you. 251 00:12:14,183 --> 00:12:16,650 Nice to see you. Hello, Lisa. 252 00:12:16,651 --> 00:12:19,653 We've met before, and you told me you like the way I talk, 253 00:12:19,654 --> 00:12:23,357 and that was my favorite thing anyone's ever said to me. 254 00:12:23,358 --> 00:12:25,360 - You're from Poland. - Yes, I am. 255 00:12:25,361 --> 00:12:28,129 - Do you know where that is? - The top of the Earth. 256 00:12:28,130 --> 00:12:30,097 I think you're thinking of the North Pole. 257 00:12:30,098 --> 00:12:31,999 Well, we're a little pressed for time, so... 258 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,402 - I'll leave you guys alone. - Why do you wanna leave when you just said... 259 00:12:34,403 --> 00:12:36,839 I'm gonna check in with Hertzfeld. 260 00:12:44,145 --> 00:12:46,548 We're trying to get a computer to say hello, 261 00:12:46,549 --> 00:12:49,116 but right now it's being very shy. 262 00:12:49,117 --> 00:12:51,052 Would you come help me? Is that okay? 263 00:12:51,053 --> 00:12:52,653 Sure. 264 00:12:52,654 --> 00:12:55,123 Thank you. 265 00:12:55,124 --> 00:12:57,057 My dad named a computer after me. 266 00:12:57,058 --> 00:13:00,495 I'm not your... 267 00:13:00,496 --> 00:13:03,731 Actually, do you know what a coincidence is, Lisa? 268 00:13:03,732 --> 00:13:06,169 No. 269 00:13:07,370 --> 00:13:10,404 Like if you met someone. 270 00:13:10,405 --> 00:13:12,706 You made a new friend and her name was Lisa too. 271 00:13:12,707 --> 00:13:14,576 That would be a coincidence. 272 00:13:14,577 --> 00:13:17,578 "Lisa" stands for "Local Integrated Systems Architecture." 273 00:13:17,579 --> 00:13:20,215 L-I-S-A. 274 00:13:21,683 --> 00:13:23,785 It's a coincidence. 275 00:13:25,487 --> 00:13:27,654 - You about done? - Yeah. 276 00:13:27,655 --> 00:13:28,489 Okay. 277 00:13:28,490 --> 00:13:33,930 Come. Let's make that computer say hi. 278 00:13:35,197 --> 00:13:37,097 Go ahead, Lisa. 279 00:13:37,098 --> 00:13:40,268 So it was the other way around. 280 00:13:40,269 --> 00:13:42,537 I was named after the computer? 281 00:13:42,538 --> 00:13:45,807 Nothing was named after anybody. It's a coincidence. 282 00:13:45,808 --> 00:13:48,144 Come on. 283 00:13:53,049 --> 00:13:54,383 What's the matter with you? 284 00:13:54,384 --> 00:13:56,583 What's the matter with you? Why are you telling her these things? 285 00:13:56,584 --> 00:13:58,552 Why are you still telling her I'm her father? 286 00:13:58,553 --> 00:14:00,455 - A judge told her you're her father. - No, he didn't. 287 00:14:00,456 --> 00:14:02,322 Where the hell do you get off telling Time magazine 288 00:14:02,323 --> 00:14:04,325 I've slept with 28 percent of the men in America? 289 00:14:04,326 --> 00:14:06,293 - That's not... - Where do you get off? 290 00:14:06,294 --> 00:14:09,130 That's not remotely what I said. 291 00:14:11,467 --> 00:14:14,168 It's right here. 292 00:14:14,169 --> 00:14:16,137 First of all, can I tell you something about Time magazine? 293 00:14:16,138 --> 00:14:18,840 I believe it's a training facility for paid assassins. 294 00:14:18,841 --> 00:14:22,342 - "Jobs insists"... I am quoting... - I didn't invent math. 295 00:14:22,343 --> 00:14:25,480 "...twenty-eight percent of the male population of the United States 296 00:14:25,481 --> 00:14:27,615 could be the father." 297 00:14:27,616 --> 00:14:31,619 I wasn't saying you've slept with 28% of American men. 298 00:14:31,620 --> 00:14:34,522 I was using an algorithm based on the blood test 299 00:14:34,523 --> 00:14:38,659 which said there was a 94.1% chance that I'm the father. 300 00:14:38,660 --> 00:14:41,863 You're trying to publicly paint me as a slut and a whore. 301 00:14:41,864 --> 00:14:44,365 Believe me, I'm not trying to publicly do anything with you. 302 00:14:44,366 --> 00:14:46,067 Two million people read Time. How am I supposed... 303 00:14:46,068 --> 00:14:49,703 It would be more if they put me on the cover, but Dan Kottke decided to kidney-punch me... 304 00:14:49,704 --> 00:14:52,874 - I applied for welfare yesterday. - I'm sorry? 305 00:14:52,875 --> 00:14:55,878 - Hello! - I said I applied for welfare yesterday. 306 00:14:57,178 --> 00:15:01,615 The Time article said your Apple stock was worth $441 million, 307 00:15:01,616 --> 00:15:03,750 and I wanted to ask you how you felt about that. 308 00:15:03,751 --> 00:15:06,587 Well, I feel like Apple stock has been dramatically undervalued. 309 00:15:06,588 --> 00:15:08,523 This would be a good time to get in. 310 00:15:08,524 --> 00:15:11,259 Your daughter and her mother... 311 00:15:11,260 --> 00:15:13,461 - Chrisann... - are on welfare. 312 00:15:13,462 --> 00:15:16,197 We're living in a hovel in Menlo Park. 313 00:15:16,198 --> 00:15:17,698 We can't pay the heating bills. 314 00:15:17,699 --> 00:15:20,235 She sleeps in a parka. 315 00:15:20,236 --> 00:15:22,537 - Your daughter... - She's not my daughter! 316 00:15:22,538 --> 00:15:25,572 Because, as reported by Time magazine, 317 00:15:25,573 --> 00:15:28,543 - I've slept with 28% of the men in America? - No. 318 00:15:28,544 --> 00:15:32,148 All of them, exactly nine months before Lisa was born. 319 00:15:37,419 --> 00:15:39,287 I've got Andy here. 320 00:15:45,861 --> 00:15:48,331 Excuse me. 321 00:15:57,405 --> 00:15:58,572 We're there? 322 00:15:58,573 --> 00:16:00,575 - Hey, Chris. - Hey, Andy. 323 00:16:00,576 --> 00:16:02,342 - How are you doin'? - Terrible. 324 00:16:02,343 --> 00:16:03,677 You guys caught up now? 325 00:16:03,678 --> 00:16:06,313 Excuse me for saying hello to my friend, who thinks you're a dick. 326 00:16:06,314 --> 00:16:07,715 - I don't think you're a... - We're there? 327 00:16:07,716 --> 00:16:10,751 - No. It's got a one-in-six chance of working. - Goddamn it. 328 00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:15,590 Well, we're not a pit crew at Daytona. This can't be fixed in seconds. 329 00:16:15,591 --> 00:16:18,458 You didn't have seconds. You had three weeks. 330 00:16:18,459 --> 00:16:21,528 The universe was created in a third of that time. 331 00:16:21,529 --> 00:16:23,798 Well, someday you'll have to tell us how you did it. 332 00:16:27,303 --> 00:16:29,736 Here's what I'm gonna do. 333 00:16:29,737 --> 00:16:33,874 I'm gonna announce the names of everyone who designed the launch demo. 334 00:16:33,875 --> 00:16:36,677 I'm gonna introduce everyone and ask them to stand up. 335 00:16:36,678 --> 00:16:38,980 The bag was designed by Susan Kare. 336 00:16:38,981 --> 00:16:42,884 The Macintosh font that's scrolling across the screen was designed by Steve Capps. 337 00:16:42,885 --> 00:16:46,221 The starry night and skywriting was Bruce Horn. 338 00:16:46,222 --> 00:16:51,859 MacPaint, MacWrite, Alice, down to the calculator. 339 00:16:51,860 --> 00:16:54,762 And then I'm gonna say the voice demo that didn't work 340 00:16:54,763 --> 00:16:57,667 was designed by Andy Hertzfeld. 341 00:17:03,772 --> 00:17:05,238 Steve... 342 00:17:05,239 --> 00:17:08,508 Five-in-six is your chance of surviving the first round of Russian roulette, 343 00:17:08,509 --> 00:17:10,378 and you've reversed those odds. 344 00:17:10,379 --> 00:17:12,580 So unless you wanna be disgraced in front of your friends, 345 00:17:12,581 --> 00:17:15,783 family, colleagues, stockholders and the press, 346 00:17:15,784 --> 00:17:17,552 I wouldn't stand here arguing. 347 00:17:17,553 --> 00:17:20,921 I'd go try and get some more bullets out of the gun. 348 00:17:20,922 --> 00:17:23,258 Do it, Andy! 349 00:17:27,729 --> 00:17:29,397 Stop. You. 350 00:17:29,398 --> 00:17:31,299 - What size shirt do you wear? - Me? 351 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:33,801 Does anyone know what size shirt he wears? What size shirt I wear? 352 00:17:33,802 --> 00:17:36,036 Does anyone know where the closest psychiatrist is? 353 00:17:36,037 --> 00:17:38,906 The disk fits in your pocket. 354 00:17:38,907 --> 00:17:41,542 I need a shirt with a breast pocket. I can take it out onstage. 355 00:17:41,543 --> 00:17:43,043 - A shirt? - The disk! 356 00:17:43,044 --> 00:17:46,046 I need a white shirt in my size with a breast pocket. 357 00:17:46,047 --> 00:17:49,350 Yes. Which one of the no stores that are open at 8:45 358 00:17:49,351 --> 00:17:52,853 do you want me to have someone run to and return from in 15 minutes? 359 00:17:52,854 --> 00:17:56,724 Go out in the lobby, find someone my size who's wearing a white shirt. 360 00:17:56,725 --> 00:17:59,026 Tell them I'll trade them for a free computer, 361 00:17:59,027 --> 00:18:00,794 and they get to keep my shirt. 362 00:18:00,795 --> 00:18:03,063 Does it have to be a white shirt? Is blue okay? 363 00:18:03,064 --> 00:18:07,802 No. The Mac is beige, I'm beige, the disk is blue, the shirt has to be white. 364 00:18:07,803 --> 00:18:09,237 Andy? 365 00:18:30,025 --> 00:18:33,828 Hello, I'm Macintosh. 366 00:18:33,829 --> 00:18:37,732 Bring me the head of Andy Hertzfeld. 367 00:18:37,733 --> 00:18:39,966 I tried to get it to say hello, but it's shy. 368 00:18:39,967 --> 00:18:42,035 Yeah. 369 00:18:42,036 --> 00:18:43,603 So that's it? 370 00:18:43,604 --> 00:18:46,207 That's it. 371 00:18:47,609 --> 00:18:49,110 I don't get it. 372 00:18:49,111 --> 00:18:50,745 I know. 373 00:18:50,746 --> 00:18:52,612 What are people going to do with it? 374 00:18:52,613 --> 00:18:54,349 Lisa, how old are you now? 375 00:18:54,350 --> 00:18:56,484 - You know how old she is. - How old are you, Lisa? 376 00:18:56,485 --> 00:18:58,254 Five. 377 00:18:59,420 --> 00:19:01,524 Come sit here for a minute. 378 00:19:05,494 --> 00:19:07,527 Do you know what this is? 379 00:19:07,528 --> 00:19:10,630 - It's a computer. - It's a computer. 380 00:19:10,631 --> 00:19:13,134 Can I borrow your hand for a second? 381 00:19:14,402 --> 00:19:17,139 Point that arrow and click. 382 00:19:18,940 --> 00:19:21,676 You don't have to, but if you want, you can play with it. 383 00:19:21,677 --> 00:19:24,911 Nothing you can do will break it, so just do whatever you want with it. 384 00:19:24,912 --> 00:19:26,112 What are you doing? 385 00:19:26,113 --> 00:19:29,883 I'm paying you exactly what the court ordered me to pay you. 386 00:19:29,884 --> 00:19:32,786 $385 a month. 387 00:19:32,787 --> 00:19:34,755 I'm not the one who decided on that amount. 388 00:19:34,756 --> 00:19:36,657 And I'm asking you how you feel. 389 00:19:36,658 --> 00:19:38,158 If you feel all right. 390 00:19:38,159 --> 00:19:41,661 - If it feels all right to you that your daughter... - She's not my... 391 00:19:41,662 --> 00:19:44,399 That your daughter and her mother are on welfare 392 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,402 while you're worth $441 million for making that. 393 00:19:48,403 --> 00:19:51,539 I'm proud to say Apple donates computers to underfunded schools, 394 00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:54,041 - and we'll be doing more of the same with the Mac... - What? 395 00:19:54,042 --> 00:19:57,844 Apple donates millions of dollars' worth of computers to schools. 396 00:19:57,845 --> 00:19:59,880 What does that have to do with... 397 00:19:59,881 --> 00:20:04,752 Imagine an underprivileged kid that has their favorite teacher with them 24 hours. 398 00:20:04,753 --> 00:20:06,687 We're minutes away from being able to do that. 399 00:20:06,688 --> 00:20:09,424 In your head, was that an answer to my question? 400 00:20:09,425 --> 00:20:10,957 Tell me the question again. 401 00:20:11,959 --> 00:20:14,128 I wasn't the one who sued you for child support. 402 00:20:14,129 --> 00:20:16,697 - No, let... - San Mateo County sued you. 403 00:20:16,698 --> 00:20:19,699 No, let me explain what happened, 'cause I have plenty of time right now. 404 00:20:21,437 --> 00:20:23,070 Excuse me. You have a visitor. 405 00:20:23,071 --> 00:20:25,639 Just wanted to say good luck. Hey, Chrisann. 406 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,444 - Hello, Woz. - Hang on. 407 00:20:31,979 --> 00:20:34,482 - Just wanted to say good luck. - Thanks. You too. 408 00:20:34,483 --> 00:20:35,882 - It's a big morning. - Yeah. 409 00:20:35,883 --> 00:20:37,784 You should see this crowd out there. 410 00:20:37,785 --> 00:20:40,421 This crowd, it's like, um... 411 00:20:41,457 --> 00:20:44,524 I can't really wait for you to come up with a metaphor, man. 412 00:20:44,525 --> 00:20:47,462 - Yeah. So, listen, I want to ask you a favor. - Yeah? 413 00:20:47,463 --> 00:20:50,231 - Can you acknowledge the Apple II team in your remarks? - I cannot. 414 00:20:50,232 --> 00:20:51,799 Just an acknowledgement. 415 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,768 Have them stand up. 416 00:20:54,769 --> 00:20:56,870 - We're launching the Mac. - It'd be a morale booster. 417 00:20:56,871 --> 00:20:59,040 Just a mention so they could get a round of applause. 418 00:20:59,041 --> 00:21:01,242 - Just a mention. - Can we stick a pin in this for a minute? 419 00:21:01,243 --> 00:21:02,776 - Sure. - Thank you. 420 00:21:02,777 --> 00:21:05,012 Just talking about an acknowledgement for the team. 421 00:21:05,013 --> 00:21:07,180 I've got Chrisann in there. I'll see you in a second. 422 00:21:07,181 --> 00:21:09,649 Yep. 423 00:21:16,024 --> 00:21:17,024 That. 424 00:21:17,025 --> 00:21:18,391 What? 425 00:21:18,392 --> 00:21:21,928 You asked me what people are gonna do with it. They're gonna do that. 426 00:21:23,899 --> 00:21:25,966 One of the engineers. 427 00:21:25,967 --> 00:21:27,937 Thank you. 428 00:21:35,043 --> 00:21:37,146 Do you like it? 429 00:21:40,082 --> 00:21:41,181 I'm sorry? 430 00:21:41,182 --> 00:21:43,950 It's an abstract. 431 00:21:43,951 --> 00:21:48,289 You used MacPaint. 432 00:21:51,759 --> 00:21:54,529 Push that key and the "S" at the same time. 433 00:21:57,198 --> 00:21:59,000 Now type your name. 434 00:22:09,578 --> 00:22:11,580 Do you know which box says "Save"? 435 00:22:13,047 --> 00:22:16,217 Right. Go ahead and click on it. 436 00:22:23,958 --> 00:22:25,626 I'll put some money in your account 437 00:22:25,627 --> 00:22:28,763 and buy you a new house, someplace near a decent school. 438 00:22:28,764 --> 00:22:31,732 Thank you. 439 00:22:31,733 --> 00:22:34,735 Woz wants a minute. 440 00:22:34,736 --> 00:22:37,204 And Sculley's asking for you. 441 00:22:37,205 --> 00:22:40,107 We're done? 442 00:22:41,043 --> 00:22:44,277 Could you teach me more things? 443 00:22:44,278 --> 00:22:46,613 On the computer? 444 00:22:46,614 --> 00:22:48,583 Lisa, wait for me in the hall, please. 445 00:22:51,887 --> 00:22:54,187 You can put your coat on in the hall. 446 00:22:54,188 --> 00:22:55,623 Bye, Lisa. 447 00:22:56,691 --> 00:22:59,327 - Bye. - Lisa, in the hall. Now. 448 00:22:59,328 --> 00:23:01,762 I wanna know, when you say you're gonna put money in my account, 449 00:23:01,763 --> 00:23:03,164 how much we're talking about. 450 00:23:03,165 --> 00:23:05,768 It's a school day. She needs to be in school. 451 00:23:07,636 --> 00:23:10,239 I'm gonna give you whatever you need. 452 00:23:26,888 --> 00:23:31,024 Woz wants me to acknowledge the Apple II team. 453 00:23:31,025 --> 00:23:33,260 You must be able to see that she looks like you. 454 00:23:33,261 --> 00:23:35,830 I don't want to insult Woz. I just think it's backward-looking 455 00:23:35,831 --> 00:23:37,665 at exactly the wrong moment. 456 00:23:37,666 --> 00:23:40,700 - I know you heard what I said. - I heard what you said, Joanna. 457 00:23:40,701 --> 00:23:43,904 It's just we're about to do this thing. 458 00:23:43,905 --> 00:23:49,043 At 9:41, the planet's gonna shift on its axis nigh and forever. 459 00:23:49,044 --> 00:23:51,779 Two most significant events of the 20th century: 460 00:23:51,780 --> 00:23:54,649 the Allies win the war and this. 461 00:23:54,650 --> 00:23:56,016 This. 462 00:23:56,017 --> 00:23:58,319 So maybe right now isn't the very best time to scold me 463 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,222 for not being a better father to a kid who's not my kid. 464 00:24:01,223 --> 00:24:04,324 - The test said I... - I don't care what the test said. 465 00:24:04,325 --> 00:24:05,592 I don't care about 94.1% 466 00:24:05,593 --> 00:24:08,329 or the insane algorithm you used to get to 28% of American men. 467 00:24:08,330 --> 00:24:10,430 Buying her a new house. I'm giving her money. 468 00:24:10,431 --> 00:24:13,167 There's a small girl who believes you're her father. 469 00:24:13,168 --> 00:24:17,671 That's all. That's all the math there is. 470 00:24:17,672 --> 00:24:21,207 She believes it. What are you gonna do about that? 471 00:24:21,208 --> 00:24:23,977 God sent his only son on a suicide mission, 472 00:24:23,978 --> 00:24:27,682 but we like him anyway because he made trees. 473 00:24:29,051 --> 00:24:31,918 We're gonna sell a million units in the first 90 days. 474 00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:33,987 20,000 a month after that. 475 00:24:33,988 --> 00:24:36,792 So maybe you could give me a break, Ms. Hoffman? 476 00:25:28,376 --> 00:25:30,377 - Woz. - Hey. 477 00:25:30,378 --> 00:25:33,013 There's nothing in that vending machine that won't kill you. 478 00:25:33,014 --> 00:25:35,248 - Just browsing. - Let's take a walk. 479 00:25:35,249 --> 00:25:37,350 - Can I tell you something? - Yeah. 480 00:25:37,351 --> 00:25:40,754 After the meeting in Maui, the Apple II team was upset and angry and down. 481 00:25:40,755 --> 00:25:43,157 - Do you know why? - Because the Apple II wasn't mentioned even once? 482 00:25:43,158 --> 00:25:45,793 The Apple II wasn't mentioned ev... 483 00:25:45,794 --> 00:25:47,427 Yes, that's it. You have it. Yes. 484 00:25:47,428 --> 00:25:50,531 - That wasn't an oversight. - They know that. They know it wasn't. 485 00:25:50,532 --> 00:25:52,766 I don't wanna make a big deal out of this... 486 00:25:52,767 --> 00:25:54,334 That's entirely within your power. 487 00:25:54,335 --> 00:25:57,103 - The Apple II is... - The Apple II is what was, my friend. 488 00:25:57,104 --> 00:26:00,808 The Apple II is what pays the bills around here and has for seven years. 489 00:26:00,809 --> 00:26:02,075 And if you embarrass these people, 490 00:26:02,076 --> 00:26:05,044 you are going to see a brain drain at this company, my brother. 491 00:26:05,045 --> 00:26:07,814 Markkula took you off the Lisa, not them and not me, so don't blame... 492 00:26:07,815 --> 00:26:12,319 Markkula took me off the Lisa because of his strong religious objection to making it good. 493 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,188 Now I gave you everything you wanted on the Apple II. 494 00:26:15,189 --> 00:26:16,924 You don't ask for a lot? 495 00:26:16,925 --> 00:26:19,392 There wasn't a single fight you lost. 496 00:26:19,393 --> 00:26:21,962 Do you concede the slots are the reason for the success of the Apple II? 497 00:26:21,963 --> 00:26:24,098 - We can't still be talking about the slots. - I have a point. 498 00:26:24,099 --> 00:26:27,066 It's been seven years. You're still doing it. You're talking about the slots. 499 00:26:27,067 --> 00:26:30,004 There's something wrong with you. This argument started in the garage. 500 00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:34,809 What are you talking about? Why would you only want two slots? 501 00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:36,811 A printer and a modem. 502 00:26:36,812 --> 00:26:38,344 With eight slots, you... 503 00:26:38,345 --> 00:26:41,415 This is a huge deal that we were able to add eight slots. 504 00:26:41,416 --> 00:26:44,318 I appreciate the engineering, but it's not what we're doing. 505 00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:46,020 - And thank God I won that argument... - Woz. 506 00:26:46,021 --> 00:26:48,822 Because the open system is what people love about the machine, 507 00:26:48,823 --> 00:26:50,323 and it's why it sold and still sells. 508 00:26:50,324 --> 00:26:52,993 An open system. We're not doing an open system. 509 00:26:52,994 --> 00:26:56,964 Of course we are. That's what people want, and the breakthrough on the Apple II... 510 00:26:56,965 --> 00:26:59,833 People don't know what they want until you show it to them. 511 00:26:59,834 --> 00:27:04,504 Serious users want to customize. They wanna modify. They wanna jack it up. 512 00:27:04,505 --> 00:27:08,042 They want hardware engineers like me to expand its capabilities, okay? 513 00:27:08,043 --> 00:27:09,976 Keyboards for music, better sound board, 514 00:27:09,977 --> 00:27:11,879 better display boards, improved memory cards. 515 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,215 And it's why there are 3,000 people here right now. 516 00:27:14,216 --> 00:27:18,252 The slots are what allowed the Apple II to run, for just one example, VisiCalc, 517 00:27:18,253 --> 00:27:22,356 which from my guess single-handedly sold between 200,000 and 300,000 machines. 518 00:27:22,357 --> 00:27:25,325 - They want slots. - They don't get a vote. 519 00:27:25,326 --> 00:27:28,862 When Dylan wrote "Shelter from the Storm," he didn't ask people to contribute to the lyrics. 520 00:27:28,863 --> 00:27:30,864 Plays don't stop so the playwright can ask the audience 521 00:27:30,865 --> 00:27:32,233 what scene they'd like to see next. 522 00:27:32,234 --> 00:27:33,200 - Painters... - Hobbyists... 523 00:27:33,201 --> 00:27:36,870 We're on the verge of a tectonic... Hobbyists? 524 00:27:36,871 --> 00:27:38,806 A printer and a modem. Two slots. 525 00:27:40,108 --> 00:27:42,008 The Apple II team has my affection, 526 00:27:42,009 --> 00:27:45,478 but I'm not loving up a seven-year-old product at the Mac launch. 527 00:27:45,479 --> 00:27:48,882 - Computers aren't paintings. - Fuck you. 528 00:27:48,883 --> 00:27:52,285 I'm gonna say "fuck you" every time you say that until you either die or stop. 529 00:27:52,286 --> 00:27:53,987 - Steve... - Try it. 530 00:27:53,988 --> 00:27:55,121 - Steve. - Say it. 531 00:27:55,122 --> 00:27:57,925 - Computers aren't paintings. - Fuck you. 532 00:27:57,926 --> 00:28:00,995 Yes, they are, and what I want is a closed system. 533 00:28:00,996 --> 00:28:05,100 End-to-end control. Completely incompatible with anything. 534 00:28:09,137 --> 00:28:11,572 Computers aren't supposed to have human flaws. 535 00:28:11,573 --> 00:28:15,009 I'm not going to build this one with yours. 536 00:28:26,454 --> 00:28:27,553 Steve! 537 00:28:27,554 --> 00:28:28,589 Hey. 538 00:28:28,590 --> 00:28:32,225 Today is about the Macintosh. And the Mac is mine. 539 00:28:32,226 --> 00:28:33,994 - I give you that. - Thank you. 540 00:28:33,995 --> 00:28:36,397 I give you that. Just publicly acknowledge the Apple II team 541 00:28:36,398 --> 00:28:37,831 'cause it's the right thing to do. 542 00:28:37,832 --> 00:28:41,467 We'll know soon enough if you are Leonardo da Vinci or just think you are, 543 00:28:41,468 --> 00:28:43,236 but in the meantime, it would be great... 544 00:28:43,237 --> 00:28:46,139 In the meantime, the Apple II is done. 545 00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:48,207 Seven years. It was a great run. 546 00:28:48,208 --> 00:28:50,746 You should go out in the house and take your seat. 547 00:28:52,647 --> 00:28:55,448 The Mac is Jef Raskin's. 548 00:28:55,449 --> 00:28:57,051 Say it for me. 549 00:28:57,052 --> 00:28:58,518 - Computers aren't... - Fuck you. 550 00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,486 All right. 551 00:29:05,126 --> 00:29:07,062 Five, six... 552 00:29:08,362 --> 00:29:10,097 - We're there? - I need more time. 553 00:29:10,098 --> 00:29:12,131 - You can't have it. - 20 minutes. 554 00:29:12,132 --> 00:29:14,435 - It's 8:58. - We can start late. 555 00:29:14,436 --> 00:29:17,236 Hear me. We're a computer company. We can't start late. 556 00:29:17,237 --> 00:29:19,305 - Then I have another idea. - What? 557 00:29:19,306 --> 00:29:22,008 It's deceptive and borderline unethical. 558 00:29:22,009 --> 00:29:24,078 - I'm listening. - It'll run on the 512. 559 00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:26,045 - You tested it? - Yeah. 560 00:29:26,046 --> 00:29:30,383 - Wait. You're gonna demo a 128 computer on a 512? - Nobody's gonna know. 561 00:29:30,384 --> 00:29:33,087 And you think that's borderline unethical? 562 00:29:33,088 --> 00:29:35,989 Name my other choices, please. 563 00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:39,693 Please. You have to tell me why it's so important for it to say hello. 564 00:29:39,694 --> 00:29:43,764 Hollywood. They made computers scary things. 565 00:29:43,765 --> 00:29:47,400 See how this reminds you of a friendly face, that the disk slot is a goofy grin? 566 00:29:47,401 --> 00:29:52,072 It's warm and it's playful and it needs to say hello. 567 00:29:52,073 --> 00:29:54,408 It needs to say hello because it can. 568 00:30:02,550 --> 00:30:04,517 We're not committing fraud. 569 00:30:04,518 --> 00:30:07,620 The 512 is gonna ship in under a year. 570 00:30:07,621 --> 00:30:10,792 Will you absolve me of your Eastern European disapproval? 571 00:30:12,393 --> 00:30:16,629 The computer in 2001 said hello all the time and it still scared the shit out of me. 572 00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:18,967 Absolve me. 573 00:30:20,067 --> 00:30:22,602 Just for this. 574 00:30:22,603 --> 00:30:25,104 And just for now. 575 00:30:25,105 --> 00:30:31,078 Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome founding board member Mike Markkula. 576 00:30:36,650 --> 00:30:40,654 All right. Okay. 577 00:30:40,655 --> 00:30:43,256 Go make a dent in the universe, Steven. 578 00:30:43,257 --> 00:30:45,559 See you in a couple hours. 579 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,262 And I'm going to take us through the formal part of the meeting, 580 00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:49,696 the legal part, if you will. 581 00:30:49,697 --> 00:30:53,332 Thank merciful God. The cavalry's shown up. 582 00:30:53,333 --> 00:30:56,469 I hear you've been worse than usual this morning. I didn't think that was possible. 583 00:30:56,470 --> 00:31:00,206 So I've been dispatched as the "Steve Whisperer." 584 00:31:00,207 --> 00:31:02,609 This is a '55 Margaux. 585 00:31:02,610 --> 00:31:06,245 - It's 9:00 in the morning. - This is a '55 Margaux. 586 00:31:08,615 --> 00:31:12,820 Is it my imagination or have you started to dress like me? 587 00:31:12,821 --> 00:31:15,722 It was a bad idea to have Markkula open with quarterly reports. 588 00:31:15,723 --> 00:31:17,858 Instead we should have just dropped water on the audience. 589 00:31:17,859 --> 00:31:21,495 You know, just big 10,000-gallon tanks of cold water, dropped from the ceiling. 590 00:31:21,496 --> 00:31:23,362 Save Mike some money on index cards. 591 00:31:23,363 --> 00:31:25,832 - Oh, just relax. - Why? 592 00:31:25,833 --> 00:31:28,802 I don't know. No one's ever asked me that question. 593 00:31:28,803 --> 00:31:31,206 There you go. 594 00:31:36,643 --> 00:31:39,379 You're the only one who sees the world the same way I do. 595 00:31:39,380 --> 00:31:42,217 No one sees the world the same way you do. 596 00:31:43,450 --> 00:31:45,319 I'm like Julius Caesar, John. 597 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,888 - I'm surrounded by enemies. - No, you're not. 598 00:31:47,889 --> 00:31:51,190 - The board... - Oh, the board. The board's behind you. 599 00:31:51,191 --> 00:31:52,825 Only because you see to it they are. 600 00:31:52,826 --> 00:31:54,227 I think it's a good board, 601 00:31:54,228 --> 00:31:57,397 but if you want me to push them out one by one, we can talk about that. 602 00:31:57,398 --> 00:31:59,299 I want you to push them out all at once... 603 00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:01,834 through a window, if it's the nearest exit. 604 00:32:01,835 --> 00:32:04,138 The look on their faces when we showed them the spot. 605 00:32:04,139 --> 00:32:06,873 I couldn't see their faces, 'cause they were banging their heads on the table. 606 00:32:06,874 --> 00:32:10,811 Yeah, yeah. Yesterday, the day after it airs once, 607 00:32:10,812 --> 00:32:13,514 the publisher of Adweek calls it the best commercial of all time. 608 00:32:13,515 --> 00:32:17,148 Of all time! And it is. 609 00:32:17,149 --> 00:32:19,785 And if anyone does one better, it's gonna be Chiat/Day, who the board wanted to replace, 610 00:32:19,786 --> 00:32:22,555 and it's gonna be Lee Clow, who the board thought was out of his mind. 611 00:32:22,556 --> 00:32:25,359 Ladies and gentlemen, "1984." 612 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,727 The first glorious anniversary 613 00:32:27,728 --> 00:32:30,330 of the information purification directives. 614 00:32:30,331 --> 00:32:34,600 We have created for the first time in all history 615 00:32:34,601 --> 00:32:37,638 a garden of pure ideology 616 00:32:37,639 --> 00:32:40,239 where each worker may bloom, 617 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,710 secure from the pests purveying contradictory thoughts. 618 00:32:44,711 --> 00:32:50,883 Our unification of thoughts is more powerful a weapon than any fleet or army on earth. 619 00:32:50,884 --> 00:32:52,485 We are one people... 620 00:32:52,486 --> 00:32:54,220 Did we use skinheads as extras? 621 00:32:54,221 --> 00:32:56,689 - A couple of people have told me that. - Yeah. 622 00:32:56,690 --> 00:32:58,859 We paid skinheads? I've got skinheads on my payroll? 623 00:32:58,860 --> 00:33:01,527 - They had a look you wanted. - The skinheads? 624 00:33:01,528 --> 00:33:04,731 - Yeah. - Okay, let's keep that to ourselves. 625 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,169 We shall prevail. 626 00:33:12,273 --> 00:33:16,944 On January 24th, Apple Computer will introduce Macintosh. 627 00:33:16,945 --> 00:33:19,379 - Who else knows? - Who else knows what? 628 00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:22,482 - That we paid terrorists to be in our TV commercial. - John... 629 00:33:22,483 --> 00:33:25,319 They were wrong about the ad, but they're a good board. Good people. 630 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,853 Their only problem... Their problem is that they're people. 631 00:33:27,854 --> 00:33:32,225 People. The very nature of people is something to be overcome. 632 00:33:32,226 --> 00:33:37,231 When I was running Pepsi, we had a lot of success focusing on 18-to-55-year-olds 633 00:33:37,232 --> 00:33:39,632 - who weren't members of violent hate groups. - I get it. 634 00:33:39,633 --> 00:33:41,368 You're not surrounded by enemies. 635 00:33:41,369 --> 00:33:43,536 We're almost there. 636 00:33:43,537 --> 00:33:46,372 I'm back and forth on the Dylan. 637 00:33:46,373 --> 00:33:47,707 I might quote a different verse. 638 00:33:47,708 --> 00:33:48,941 What are the choices? 639 00:33:48,942 --> 00:33:51,511 "For the loser now will be later to win," 640 00:33:51,512 --> 00:33:53,714 - which is what we have. - Mm-hmm. Or? 641 00:33:53,715 --> 00:33:56,550 "Come mothers and fathers throughout the land 642 00:33:56,551 --> 00:33:58,485 and don't criticize what you can't understand. 643 00:33:58,486 --> 00:33:59,986 Your sons and your daughters"... 644 00:33:59,987 --> 00:34:01,588 "Are beyond your command." 645 00:34:01,589 --> 00:34:03,389 I just lost a hundred bucks to Andy Hertzfeld. 646 00:34:03,390 --> 00:34:06,260 He said you'd change it to that verse. 647 00:34:06,261 --> 00:34:10,165 We got 45 seconds. I want to use it to ask you a question. 648 00:34:11,432 --> 00:34:15,902 Why do people who are adopted feel like they were rejected instead of selected? 649 00:34:15,903 --> 00:34:17,069 That came out of nowhere. 650 00:34:17,070 --> 00:34:19,538 "Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command. 651 00:34:19,539 --> 00:34:21,641 Your old road is rapidly aging." 652 00:34:21,642 --> 00:34:24,344 So go fuck yourself, because my name is Steve Jobs, 653 00:34:24,345 --> 00:34:26,347 and the times, they are a-changin'. 654 00:34:27,447 --> 00:34:29,016 I don't feel rejected. 655 00:34:29,017 --> 00:34:31,018 - You're sure? - Very sure. 656 00:34:31,019 --> 00:34:33,687 'Cause it's not like the baby is born and the parents look and say, 657 00:34:33,688 --> 00:34:36,556 "Nah, we're not interested in this one." 658 00:34:36,557 --> 00:34:38,459 On the other hand, someone did choose you. 659 00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:45,132 It's having no control. 660 00:34:46,968 --> 00:34:48,969 You find out you were out of the loop 661 00:34:48,970 --> 00:34:52,407 when the most crucial events in your life were set in motion. 662 00:34:54,842 --> 00:34:57,412 As long as you have control. 663 00:34:58,713 --> 00:35:01,216 I don't understand people who give it up. 664 00:35:02,684 --> 00:35:06,018 What inspired Hertzfeld to make that bet? 665 00:35:06,019 --> 00:35:10,324 He was warning me that being your father figure could be dangerous. 666 00:35:10,325 --> 00:35:13,726 Keep your 100 bucks. I'm sticking with the first verse. 667 00:35:13,727 --> 00:35:14,560 Good. 668 00:35:14,561 --> 00:35:16,996 - What the hell does he mean? - Nothing. 669 00:35:16,997 --> 00:35:20,000 I'm proud of you. 670 00:35:20,001 --> 00:35:23,402 Thank you, boss. 671 00:35:23,403 --> 00:35:27,341 It's my pleasure to introduce my friend and the CEO of Apple, 672 00:35:27,342 --> 00:35:29,076 John Sculley. 673 00:35:29,077 --> 00:35:30,743 John? 674 00:35:30,744 --> 00:35:32,112 Yeah? 675 00:35:32,113 --> 00:35:35,150 Lisa made a painting on the Mac. 676 00:35:38,753 --> 00:35:42,054 The Macintosh, Apple's near mythological home computer, 677 00:35:42,055 --> 00:35:45,659 has gotten off to a rocky start in its battle with industry titan IBM. 678 00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:48,895 With sales originally projected to be a million in the first quarter, 679 00:35:48,896 --> 00:35:51,130 Apple has sold only 35,000 of the user-friendly machines 680 00:35:51,131 --> 00:35:53,567 in the months since it's been available to customers. 681 00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:55,000 The insistence by Steve Jobs 682 00:35:55,001 --> 00:35:56,735 that it have what's called end-to-end control, 683 00:35:56,736 --> 00:36:01,375 which is a way of saying that it's not compatible with most outside hardware or software, 684 00:36:01,376 --> 00:36:04,578 is the Shakespearean flaw in a machine that had potential. 685 00:36:04,579 --> 00:36:07,480 Apple Computers closed two of its factories today 686 00:36:07,481 --> 00:36:08,915 in the wake of disappointing sales. 687 00:36:08,916 --> 00:36:12,152 Do you know how many Macs were sold last month? 500. 688 00:36:12,153 --> 00:36:15,054 In a move that surprised some but not all on Wall Street, 689 00:36:15,055 --> 00:36:17,656 the board of directors of Apple Computers voted today 690 00:36:17,657 --> 00:36:20,060 to fire its cofounder Steve Jobs. 691 00:36:20,061 --> 00:36:22,094 Did he jump or was he pushed? 692 00:36:22,095 --> 00:36:25,931 His ex-boss, Apple CEO John Sculley, refused to comment. 693 00:36:25,932 --> 00:36:27,933 However, in an exclusive interview, 694 00:36:27,934 --> 00:36:32,038 Steve Wozniak has slammed the integrity of his old friend Steve Jobs. 695 00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:35,141 He calls Jobs an insulting and hurtful guy. 696 00:36:35,142 --> 00:36:38,677 Jobs is hitting back with a new company and a new computer. 697 00:36:38,678 --> 00:36:40,781 Apple has a new competitor. 698 00:36:40,782 --> 00:36:43,482 Steve Jobs's black cube is aimed at the education market. 699 00:36:43,483 --> 00:36:45,951 Few people have the ability to make the world wait, 700 00:36:45,952 --> 00:36:50,425 but that is just what Jobs is doing with his new company, NeXT. 701 00:36:58,698 --> 00:37:00,600 Focus seems kind of sharp. 702 00:37:00,601 --> 00:37:02,134 On the slide? 703 00:37:02,135 --> 00:37:03,904 The floor. The pin spot. 704 00:37:03,905 --> 00:37:05,938 I think we want a sharp focus. 705 00:37:05,939 --> 00:37:09,442 Don't take it personally. Just not a fan of the circus aesthetic. 706 00:37:09,443 --> 00:37:13,446 All right, let's hold here. We're gonna have to go up and refocus the instruments. 707 00:37:13,447 --> 00:37:15,882 Just one. The 30 is fine. 708 00:37:15,883 --> 00:37:19,118 While we're holding, there are well-wishers in the VIP room. 709 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:20,821 And Woz is here. 710 00:37:20,822 --> 00:37:23,656 Steve Wozniak. Yes. Thank you very much. 711 00:37:23,657 --> 00:37:25,192 And Andy Hertzfeld. 712 00:37:25,193 --> 00:37:27,594 Andy Hertzfeld. Thank you. 713 00:37:27,595 --> 00:37:30,496 John Sculley is here too. 714 00:37:30,497 --> 00:37:32,466 It's nice that he's here. 715 00:37:32,467 --> 00:37:34,801 Really? I don't think it's very nice at all. 716 00:37:34,802 --> 00:37:37,136 You have to see them. They wanna pay their respects. 717 00:37:37,137 --> 00:37:39,772 If they were respectful, we'd all still be at Apple right now. 718 00:37:39,773 --> 00:37:41,475 Look... 719 00:37:41,476 --> 00:37:43,576 If they really wished me well, they'd keep to themselves. 720 00:37:43,577 --> 00:37:46,112 - Can I tell you something? - I don't think they do wish me well. 721 00:37:46,113 --> 00:37:48,581 But I'm all right with that. I'm over Apple. 722 00:37:48,582 --> 00:37:50,817 I got over the Mac and Woz and Sculley, 723 00:37:50,818 --> 00:37:52,752 the same way you get over your high school sweetheart. 724 00:37:52,753 --> 00:37:54,554 Build a new one. 725 00:37:54,555 --> 00:37:56,755 - Can I tell you something? - Yes. 726 00:37:56,756 --> 00:37:58,558 You said you wouldn't compete with them, 727 00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:01,862 but you designed a computer specifically for the education market, 728 00:38:01,863 --> 00:38:03,929 which they putatively own. 729 00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:07,833 So, I think it's cool they're here. 730 00:38:07,834 --> 00:38:10,036 They're suing me. 731 00:38:10,037 --> 00:38:11,605 Still. 732 00:38:11,606 --> 00:38:13,707 It was nice they came. 733 00:38:15,242 --> 00:38:17,176 They're not being magnanimous. 734 00:38:17,177 --> 00:38:19,179 They want it to look like an amicable divorce. 735 00:38:19,180 --> 00:38:22,047 History doesn't remember Joe DiMaggio kindly for dumping Marilyn. 736 00:38:22,048 --> 00:38:23,283 Steve? 737 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:26,920 What's your problem? 738 00:38:26,921 --> 00:38:30,123 I don't know, but I'm sure it can be traced back to you. 739 00:38:30,124 --> 00:38:33,792 You know, I'm the one who has to explain you to people. 740 00:38:33,793 --> 00:38:36,830 $100,000 to Paul Rand for a corporate logo 741 00:38:36,831 --> 00:38:39,632 when we didn't even know what our company made. 742 00:38:39,633 --> 00:38:43,069 A $650,000 mold for the cube, 743 00:38:43,070 --> 00:38:46,172 because God forbid the angles be 90.1 instead of 90. 744 00:38:46,173 --> 00:38:49,208 I forbid the angles to be 90.1 instead of 90. 745 00:38:49,209 --> 00:38:51,777 That box could be on display at the Guggenheim. 746 00:38:51,778 --> 00:38:54,013 Don't give them reason to say to the press 747 00:38:54,014 --> 00:38:55,949 you have a chip on your shoulder. 748 00:38:55,950 --> 00:38:57,717 Will you do that for me? 749 00:38:57,718 --> 00:38:59,319 I don't have a chip on my shoulder. 750 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,953 Okay, okay. 751 00:39:00,954 --> 00:39:04,658 But don't give them a reason to say you do. 752 00:39:04,659 --> 00:39:06,159 I don't. 753 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,228 - That's the right attitude. - That's not an attitude. 754 00:39:08,229 --> 00:39:10,696 They're gonna call me back in a minute to look at the light. 755 00:39:10,697 --> 00:39:12,866 - Get one out of the way. - Fine! 756 00:39:12,867 --> 00:39:16,335 - Yeah? - Yeah. 757 00:39:16,336 --> 00:39:18,737 - One more thing. - Sure. 758 00:39:18,738 --> 00:39:21,040 No questions from the press after. 759 00:39:21,041 --> 00:39:23,275 No... Why? 760 00:39:23,276 --> 00:39:26,346 Until I have better answers, no press avail. 761 00:39:26,347 --> 00:39:30,450 Somebody asks where I am, you just saw me, and I'll be right back. 762 00:39:32,218 --> 00:39:33,688 Okay. 763 00:39:35,590 --> 00:39:37,857 Who do you want first? 764 00:39:37,858 --> 00:39:41,028 Bring me the face of Steve Wozniak. 765 00:39:49,336 --> 00:39:52,739 Hang on. 766 00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:55,174 - I thought you went to school. - Hang on. 767 00:39:55,175 --> 00:39:57,911 You were supposed to go to school an hour ago. I thought you left. 768 00:39:57,912 --> 00:40:00,279 I didn't wake up my mom on time this morning. 769 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,081 It's happened before too. 770 00:40:02,082 --> 00:40:06,152 I wake up with the alarm and then I get dressed and eat breakfast, 771 00:40:06,153 --> 00:40:08,821 but sometimes I forget to see what time it is after that. 772 00:40:08,822 --> 00:40:11,690 - Why doesn't your mom just set her own alarm clock? - It's one of my chores. 773 00:40:11,691 --> 00:40:14,893 I don't understand what that has to do with why you're still... 774 00:40:14,894 --> 00:40:16,196 Where's your mother? 775 00:40:16,197 --> 00:40:18,297 She went to find a pay phone. 776 00:40:18,298 --> 00:40:20,199 An hour ago, she said... 777 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,034 You don't have to raise your hand. 778 00:40:22,035 --> 00:40:24,804 - You said it was off by a little. - It is. 779 00:40:24,805 --> 00:40:26,806 - I just measured it. - Joanna... 780 00:40:26,807 --> 00:40:28,775 Exactly a foot on all four sides. 781 00:40:28,776 --> 00:40:30,310 There are six sides. 782 00:40:30,311 --> 00:40:32,411 But you're not supposed to be here right now. 783 00:40:32,412 --> 00:40:35,681 We know if four of the sides are equal to each other, 784 00:40:35,682 --> 00:40:38,085 the other two must be equal as well. 785 00:40:39,186 --> 00:40:41,388 The top, bottom, right and left 786 00:40:41,389 --> 00:40:43,757 are about a millimeter shorter than the front and back. 787 00:40:43,758 --> 00:40:45,257 They're not. I measured them. 788 00:40:45,258 --> 00:40:47,793 Lisa, I'm kind of an expert in design. 789 00:40:47,794 --> 00:40:50,897 And that's a 20-cent ruler. You think there's a chance it could be off? 790 00:40:50,898 --> 00:40:54,433 If I had another ruler, I would measure this ruler, but I really doubt it's off. 791 00:40:54,434 --> 00:40:58,337 - When your mother comes back, you have to go to school. - Because it's a ruler! 792 00:40:58,338 --> 00:40:59,973 Why is it off? 793 00:40:59,974 --> 00:41:01,308 - Did you hear what I just said? - Yes. 794 00:41:01,309 --> 00:41:03,877 Because sometimes it seems like you just keep saying what you want 795 00:41:03,878 --> 00:41:05,880 without listening. 796 00:41:11,318 --> 00:41:14,154 I'm listening. 797 00:41:14,155 --> 00:41:17,492 - Is there something you need? - No. 798 00:41:20,461 --> 00:41:22,094 Why isn't it a perfect cube? 799 00:41:22,095 --> 00:41:24,731 - You've asked me before. - I forget what it is. 800 00:41:26,367 --> 00:41:27,567 It's an optical anomaly. 801 00:41:27,568 --> 00:41:30,837 To the human eye, a perfect cube doesn't look like a cube, 802 00:41:30,838 --> 00:41:33,373 so we made it roughly a millimeter shorter than a foot on two sides. 803 00:41:33,374 --> 00:41:34,940 What's an anomaly? 804 00:41:34,941 --> 00:41:36,810 You've asked me that before too. 805 00:41:36,811 --> 00:41:39,412 I don't know why you keep doing that. 806 00:41:42,015 --> 00:41:44,215 It's an exception. Something that doesn't fit a pattern. 807 00:41:45,285 --> 00:41:47,353 You have to go to school. Come in! 808 00:41:49,122 --> 00:41:51,324 I think you two have met. 809 00:41:51,325 --> 00:41:52,958 Hello, old friend. 810 00:41:52,959 --> 00:41:56,029 - You look well. - So do you. So do you. 811 00:41:56,030 --> 00:41:59,998 And they're telling me George is ready for you to look at the focus. 812 00:41:59,999 --> 00:42:01,500 Take a walk with me. 813 00:42:01,501 --> 00:42:03,103 - Is this Lisa? - Yeah. 814 00:42:03,104 --> 00:42:05,004 - This can't be Lisa. - It is. 815 00:42:05,005 --> 00:42:07,005 - Lisa's this big. - They get taller. Come on. 816 00:42:07,006 --> 00:42:08,908 - Do you remember me? - She doesn't. 817 00:42:08,909 --> 00:42:10,877 I'm your dad's friend Steve Wozniak. 818 00:42:10,878 --> 00:42:15,047 I apologize. I don't remember you. 819 00:42:15,048 --> 00:42:16,415 You're very polite. 820 00:42:16,416 --> 00:42:18,118 - Woz? - Yeah. 821 00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:19,953 Chrisann's at a pay phone. Would you find her? 822 00:42:19,954 --> 00:42:21,020 Yeah. 823 00:42:21,021 --> 00:42:22,788 Good turnout. 824 00:42:22,789 --> 00:42:24,223 - Great turnout. - Yeah. 825 00:42:24,224 --> 00:42:27,159 - "Insanely great." - Insanely great. 826 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,462 This is the first time we haven't played for the same team. 827 00:42:29,463 --> 00:42:32,031 It's like you're releasing your first solo album. 828 00:42:32,032 --> 00:42:34,967 I, uh... I appreciate your inviting me to the launch. 829 00:42:34,968 --> 00:42:36,469 I just want to wipe the slate clean. 830 00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:39,105 That's exactly what I want. That's why I came backstage. 831 00:42:39,106 --> 00:42:41,841 I want you to know, um, I'll be out there with you. 832 00:42:41,842 --> 00:42:44,210 Any chance I can get you to go out there instead of me? 833 00:42:44,211 --> 00:42:46,011 I love you, Steve. 834 00:42:46,012 --> 00:42:47,446 I love you too, Woz. 835 00:42:47,447 --> 00:42:50,415 You know, some things were said. 836 00:42:50,416 --> 00:42:52,384 They were. They were said in public. 837 00:42:52,385 --> 00:42:55,455 They were published. Were you pressured to do it? 838 00:42:55,456 --> 00:42:57,322 Was I what? 839 00:42:57,323 --> 00:43:03,062 Check it out. It's the orchestra pit for the San Francisco Opera. 840 00:43:03,063 --> 00:43:05,330 Was I pressured to do it? 841 00:43:05,331 --> 00:43:08,433 I once met Seiji Ozawa at Tanglewood. 842 00:43:08,434 --> 00:43:10,870 A thunderous conductor. 843 00:43:10,871 --> 00:43:12,971 Ungodly artfulness and nuance. 844 00:43:12,972 --> 00:43:17,543 And I asked him what exactly a conductor does that a metronome can't. 845 00:43:17,544 --> 00:43:20,313 - Surprisingly, he... - He didn't beat the living shit out of you? 846 00:43:20,314 --> 00:43:24,917 That's right. No, he said, "The musicians play their instruments. 847 00:43:24,918 --> 00:43:26,819 I play the orchestra." 848 00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:30,056 That feels like something that sounds good, but doesn't mean anything. 849 00:43:30,057 --> 00:43:34,194 Markkula, Sculley... Did they ask you to slag me off in the press? 850 00:43:34,195 --> 00:43:36,228 I had reason to be angry. 851 00:43:36,229 --> 00:43:37,964 - Did they? - Absolutely not. 852 00:43:37,965 --> 00:43:39,399 But they asked you to talk. 853 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,201 Apple was under siege. You'd just left the company. 854 00:43:41,202 --> 00:43:42,935 Someone had to talk to the press. 855 00:43:42,936 --> 00:43:46,371 I'm right here, Woz. The company left me. 856 00:43:46,372 --> 00:43:49,042 I begged you. I begged you. 857 00:43:49,043 --> 00:43:51,243 The Apple II accounted for 70% of the revenue. 858 00:43:51,244 --> 00:43:53,846 What did you think was gonna happen? 859 00:43:53,847 --> 00:43:57,217 You didn't care enough about the Apple II or the Lisa. 860 00:43:57,218 --> 00:43:58,851 Let's be really clear. 861 00:43:58,852 --> 00:44:01,755 I didn't care at all about the Apple II or the Lisa. 862 00:44:03,122 --> 00:44:05,357 I wasn't pressured to do it. 863 00:44:05,358 --> 00:44:11,897 What I said to the press was an honest, if tempered, reflection of what I believed. 864 00:44:11,898 --> 00:44:13,933 - Woz. - Yeah? 865 00:44:13,934 --> 00:44:16,335 What the fuck is on your wrist? 866 00:44:16,336 --> 00:44:19,505 - You wanna know? - I literally can't wait. 867 00:44:19,506 --> 00:44:21,607 Everyone's gonna be wearing these in 10 years. 868 00:44:21,608 --> 00:44:24,009 It's a Nixie watch, made using Nixie tubes. 869 00:44:24,010 --> 00:44:26,379 This is actually 40-year-old technology. 870 00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:29,315 Cold cathode tubes. They're operating at 140 volts. 871 00:44:29,316 --> 00:44:31,317 I tilt my wrist 45 degrees, it's right there. 872 00:44:31,318 --> 00:44:33,085 Hours, minutes and seconds. 873 00:44:33,086 --> 00:44:35,520 The way our minds work. Look at that. 874 00:44:35,521 --> 00:44:38,123 Do me a favor. Set the watch ahead like you're on a plane 875 00:44:38,124 --> 00:44:39,592 and just changed time zones. 876 00:44:39,593 --> 00:44:41,360 Not a problem. 877 00:44:41,361 --> 00:44:45,899 Unscrew that. Just hit the button. 878 00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:50,435 Excuse me. Flight attendant? The man next to me would appear to be detonating a bomb. 879 00:44:50,436 --> 00:44:52,404 You think this looks like a bomb. 880 00:44:52,405 --> 00:44:55,342 Even right now, I'm not 100% sure it isn't. 881 00:44:56,443 --> 00:44:59,814 - I think maybe once people get used to it... - No. 882 00:45:04,584 --> 00:45:07,654 I was angry. 883 00:45:07,655 --> 00:45:10,489 You were saying things about the Apple II, and the way you were treating the team... 884 00:45:10,490 --> 00:45:14,192 Woz. You get a free pass for life. 885 00:45:14,193 --> 00:45:17,630 I got to get back onstage. We got two minutes of rehearsal time left. 886 00:45:17,631 --> 00:45:21,601 Do you understand how condescending that just was? Maybe you don't. 887 00:45:21,602 --> 00:45:24,203 I don't want to see you get dragged off an airplane in plastic handcuffs. 888 00:45:24,204 --> 00:45:27,473 I get a free pass for life from you? 889 00:45:27,474 --> 00:45:30,542 You give out the pass... Y-Y-You give them to me? 890 00:45:30,543 --> 00:45:32,344 You're gonna have a stroke, little buddy. 891 00:45:32,345 --> 00:45:35,849 What did you do? What did you do? 892 00:45:37,318 --> 00:45:39,252 Why has Lisa not heard of me? 893 00:45:39,253 --> 00:45:42,721 Shit, man, how many fourth-graders have heard of you? 894 00:45:42,722 --> 00:45:47,092 You can't write code. You're not an engineer. You're not a designer. 895 00:45:47,093 --> 00:45:49,328 You can't put a hammer to a nail. 896 00:45:49,329 --> 00:45:50,964 I built the circuit board. 897 00:45:50,965 --> 00:45:53,433 The graphical interface was stolen from Xerox PARC. 898 00:45:53,434 --> 00:45:57,170 Jef Raskin was the leader of the Mac team before you threw him off his own project. 899 00:45:57,171 --> 00:46:00,373 Everything... Someone else designed the box. 900 00:46:00,374 --> 00:46:02,308 So how come 10 times in a day, 901 00:46:02,309 --> 00:46:06,112 I read "Steve Jobs is a genius"? 902 00:46:06,113 --> 00:46:07,980 What do you do? 903 00:46:07,981 --> 00:46:09,649 I play the orchestra. 904 00:46:09,650 --> 00:46:11,683 And you're a good musician. You sit right there. 905 00:46:11,684 --> 00:46:13,719 You're the best in your row. 906 00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:16,054 I came here to clear the air. 907 00:46:16,055 --> 00:46:18,491 - Do you know why I came here? - Didn't you just answer that? 908 00:46:18,492 --> 00:46:21,326 I came here because you're gonna get killed. 909 00:46:21,327 --> 00:46:24,330 Your computer's gonna fail. 910 00:46:24,331 --> 00:46:26,766 You had a college and university advisory board 911 00:46:26,767 --> 00:46:29,735 telling you they need a powerful workstation for 2,000 to 3,000. 912 00:46:29,736 --> 00:46:32,005 You've priced NeXT at 6,500. 913 00:46:32,006 --> 00:46:34,540 And that doesn't include the optional $3,000 hard drive, 914 00:46:34,541 --> 00:46:37,243 which people will discover isn't optional. 915 00:46:37,244 --> 00:46:40,279 Because the optical disk is too weak to do anything. 916 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,417 And the $2,500 laser printer brings the total to $12,000. 917 00:46:44,418 --> 00:46:46,518 And in the entire world, you are the only person 918 00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:49,321 who cares that it's housed in a perfect cube. 919 00:46:49,322 --> 00:46:51,524 You're gonna get killed. 920 00:46:51,525 --> 00:46:54,159 And I came here to stand next to you while that happens 921 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,161 because that's what friends do. 922 00:46:56,162 --> 00:47:01,034 That's what men do. I don't need your pass. 923 00:47:01,035 --> 00:47:03,469 We go back, so don't talk to me like I'm other people. 924 00:47:03,470 --> 00:47:05,705 I'm the only one that knows 925 00:47:05,706 --> 00:47:08,708 that this guy here is someone you invented. 926 00:47:08,709 --> 00:47:13,478 I'm standing by you because that perfect cube that does nothing 927 00:47:13,479 --> 00:47:16,181 is about to be the single biggest failure 928 00:47:16,182 --> 00:47:18,952 in the history of personal computing. 929 00:47:20,586 --> 00:47:23,690 Tell me something else I don't know. 930 00:47:29,195 --> 00:47:30,797 - Back onstage? - We're out of time. 931 00:47:30,798 --> 00:47:34,500 They've got to mop the stage and open the house. 932 00:47:34,501 --> 00:47:38,203 If it crashes, it crashes, right? 933 00:47:38,204 --> 00:47:39,739 You'll make a joke. 934 00:47:39,740 --> 00:47:41,339 I'll make a joke. 935 00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:43,775 If it crashes, it crashes. 936 00:47:43,776 --> 00:47:47,446 It's a good slogan. "NeXT. If it crashes, it crashes." 937 00:47:47,447 --> 00:47:49,614 I'm not just talking about the demo, Steve. 938 00:47:49,615 --> 00:47:52,085 If it tanks, we don't swallow cyanide. 939 00:47:52,086 --> 00:47:54,853 - We go back to the drawing board. - No more drawing boards. 940 00:47:54,854 --> 00:47:57,422 Invent the Edsel twice, you don't get any more drawing boards. 941 00:47:57,423 --> 00:47:58,857 Tell me what the plan is. 942 00:47:58,858 --> 00:48:01,259 You have to tell me the plan, because I don't know. 943 00:48:01,260 --> 00:48:05,098 You're walking around like you've got "Can't Lose" cards. 944 00:48:05,099 --> 00:48:09,134 The plan will reveal itself to you when you're ready to see it. 945 00:48:09,135 --> 00:48:11,603 Will I have to drop acid? 946 00:48:11,604 --> 00:48:13,172 Couldn't hurt. 947 00:48:13,173 --> 00:48:14,540 Is there a plan? 948 00:48:14,541 --> 00:48:16,375 Have I ever let you down? 949 00:48:16,376 --> 00:48:18,243 Every single goddamn time. 950 00:48:18,244 --> 00:48:20,212 - Then I'm due. - Is there? 951 00:48:20,213 --> 00:48:22,214 Joanna, there's a plan. 952 00:48:22,215 --> 00:48:25,784 I just don't wanna put you in a position where you're lying to people. 953 00:48:27,688 --> 00:48:31,190 Start 15 minutes late so Avie can recompile and give us a fighting chance. 954 00:48:31,191 --> 00:48:33,493 Jesus Christ. How many times are we gonna have this con... 955 00:48:33,494 --> 00:48:35,393 - We're not starting late, ever! - Fine! 956 00:48:35,394 --> 00:48:38,498 - We're not ever starting late. - Late. 957 00:48:38,499 --> 00:48:42,069 But where do you come down on starting late? 958 00:48:50,177 --> 00:48:54,614 Lisa's been doing this thing where she asks me about stuff I've already told her. 959 00:48:54,615 --> 00:48:57,283 She asks me questions, and I know she already knows the answers. 960 00:48:57,284 --> 00:48:58,717 What's that about? 961 00:48:58,718 --> 00:49:02,855 Kids do that when they're scared one of their parents is in a bad mood. 962 00:49:02,856 --> 00:49:06,424 They try to get you talking about something you like. 963 00:49:06,425 --> 00:49:11,696 It's very common and can be treated by talking to her about things she likes. 964 00:49:11,697 --> 00:49:16,234 Do you have any experience or training in this field? 965 00:49:16,235 --> 00:49:17,435 No. 966 00:49:17,436 --> 00:49:20,073 Tell them to open the house. 967 00:49:26,613 --> 00:49:30,084 - Where's Lisa? - She's around. 968 00:49:31,885 --> 00:49:34,853 - What does that mean? - She's running around the building. 969 00:49:34,854 --> 00:49:37,455 An hour ago, you said you were taking her to school. 970 00:49:37,456 --> 00:49:40,726 She begged me to let her stay. There are fathers who would so love... 971 00:49:40,727 --> 00:49:45,263 It is wrong, okay? It is morally wrong, it's parentally wrong. 972 00:49:45,264 --> 00:49:48,500 It is wrong for you to use Lisa as a way of getting money from me. 973 00:49:48,501 --> 00:49:51,469 She will know, if she doesn't already, that that is your primary use for her. 974 00:49:51,470 --> 00:49:53,638 She will hate you for the rest of your life. 975 00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:57,442 She will see, if she doesn't already, that her mother is a woman who stands up to men. 976 00:49:57,443 --> 00:49:59,277 By living off of them. 977 00:49:59,278 --> 00:50:02,214 By not letting myself be imprisoned and degraded by them. 978 00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:07,652 Imprisoned? I can't get rid of you. 979 00:50:07,653 --> 00:50:10,422 I need a doctor and I need a dentist. 980 00:50:10,423 --> 00:50:13,525 I dropped out of college after a semester, but, okay, let's have a look. 981 00:50:13,526 --> 00:50:15,860 You will support your daughter and her mother. 982 00:50:15,861 --> 00:50:18,397 Did you pay someone $1,500 to bless your house? 983 00:50:18,398 --> 00:50:20,799 - Did you hear what I said? - Did you? 984 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,768 I don't remember how much it was, Steve. 985 00:50:22,769 --> 00:50:25,471 - It was $1,500. - Well, they don't do it for free. 986 00:50:25,472 --> 00:50:27,005 They don't. They charge $1,500. 987 00:50:27,006 --> 00:50:29,942 How I spend... Fuck. You know, I'm not even gonna... 988 00:50:29,943 --> 00:50:33,645 Were you about to say, "How I spend my money is none of your business"? 989 00:50:33,646 --> 00:50:36,915 I have a sinus infection and I need to see a dentist too. 990 00:50:36,916 --> 00:50:39,618 So you can see how your blessing budget could have been better spent. 991 00:50:39,619 --> 00:50:42,689 Like on a perfect cube? 992 00:50:43,789 --> 00:50:46,259 - Look at me, Chrisann. - What? 993 00:50:46,260 --> 00:50:48,326 - You know who I am, right? - Yes. 994 00:50:48,327 --> 00:50:50,696 - And you know I know people. - What are you talking about? 995 00:50:50,697 --> 00:50:54,533 Look at me. And you know the people I know, they know people. 996 00:50:54,534 --> 00:50:55,935 What is this? 997 00:50:55,936 --> 00:50:59,571 If I ever hear again that you've thrown a cereal bowl at Lisa's head... 998 00:50:59,572 --> 00:51:01,774 - What? - my private line's gonna ring, 999 00:51:01,775 --> 00:51:04,743 and a voice on the other end is gonna say, "We're all set." 1000 00:51:04,744 --> 00:51:07,013 - That's how I'll learn that you're dead. - Are you cra... 1001 00:51:07,014 --> 00:51:09,281 I threw the bowl on the floor. 1002 00:51:09,282 --> 00:51:10,815 I didn't throw it at her head. 1003 00:51:10,816 --> 00:51:12,618 She wasn't even in the room. 1004 00:51:12,619 --> 00:51:15,554 She was nowhere... I threw the bowl on the floor. 1005 00:51:15,555 --> 00:51:18,658 She's a little girl. You're scaring her. 1006 00:51:18,659 --> 00:51:21,359 I'm a grown man. You're scaring me. 1007 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,562 Taking out the garbage is a chore. 1008 00:51:23,563 --> 00:51:25,630 Clearing the table is a chore. 1009 00:51:25,631 --> 00:51:28,301 Waking you up in the morning is just fucking creepy. 1010 00:51:28,302 --> 00:51:31,304 - Please teach me more about being a parent. - We're all done here. 1011 00:51:31,305 --> 00:51:34,607 It means so much coming from someone who won't admit he is one. 1012 00:51:34,608 --> 00:51:36,609 - Stop screaming at Lisa. - I give her responsibilities. 1013 00:51:36,610 --> 00:51:38,743 - Got it. - One day she's gonna thank me for it. 1014 00:51:38,744 --> 00:51:40,712 - Probably in your sleep. - Fuck off! 1015 00:51:40,713 --> 00:51:41,681 Okay. 1016 00:51:41,682 --> 00:51:44,482 I never... I never threw anything at her head. 1017 00:51:44,483 --> 00:51:46,886 Steve. 1018 00:51:46,887 --> 00:51:49,721 I never would. 1019 00:51:49,722 --> 00:51:54,227 Things don't become so because you say so. 1020 00:51:55,461 --> 00:51:59,065 There'll be more money in your account by the end of business. 1021 00:52:07,474 --> 00:52:10,144 - Were you being nice? - Oh, yeah. 1022 00:52:15,849 --> 00:52:19,484 - Andy's next. - Hertzfeld or Cunningham? 1023 00:52:19,485 --> 00:52:24,190 Hertzfeld. He's playing with Avie Tevanian on the computer backstage. 1024 00:52:25,959 --> 00:52:30,264 Ladies and gentlemen, the house is now open. 1025 00:52:44,778 --> 00:52:49,013 - ...playing in front of thousands of people. - Steve! 1026 00:52:49,014 --> 00:52:51,917 Can he do it later, Joel? We go in eight minutes. 1027 00:52:51,918 --> 00:52:54,552 - Can I get a quick reaction to the press this morning? - What about it? 1028 00:52:54,553 --> 00:52:57,056 - The size of it, the volume. - I'll tell you on background... 1029 00:52:57,057 --> 00:52:59,458 - I was hoping for a quote from Steve. - I'll tell you on background 1030 00:52:59,459 --> 00:53:02,060 that I've never seen anything like it in the tech industry. 1031 00:53:02,061 --> 00:53:05,063 I called the Wall Street Journal to take out a full-page ad for today, 1032 00:53:05,064 --> 00:53:07,400 and do you know what their sales guy said? 1033 00:53:07,401 --> 00:53:11,804 "Why bother? It'd be like notifying Macy's that tomorrow is Christmas." 1034 00:53:11,805 --> 00:53:13,873 - You saw the Stewart Alsop newsletter? - I did. 1035 00:53:13,874 --> 00:53:16,107 I'm sorry, Joanna, I need to get Steve on the record. 1036 00:53:16,108 --> 00:53:20,612 The headline was "Dear NeXT, when can I get my machine?" 1037 00:53:20,613 --> 00:53:24,683 - When can he? - We'll announce the ship date in the next eight to 10 weeks. 1038 00:53:24,684 --> 00:53:26,085 Alsop's not talking about the ship date. 1039 00:53:26,086 --> 00:53:28,754 He wants to know when he can get one to play with. 1040 00:53:28,755 --> 00:53:30,855 We have a lot of respect for Stewart Alsop, 1041 00:53:30,856 --> 00:53:34,692 and we want to get a machine into his hands so he can tell his subscribers about it. 1042 00:53:34,693 --> 00:53:37,429 - And when will that be? - Very soon. 1043 00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:40,098 Couple of days? A week? 1044 00:53:40,099 --> 00:53:42,801 Off the record. 1045 00:53:42,802 --> 00:53:45,170 - Off the record? - Completely. 1046 00:53:45,171 --> 00:53:48,507 - We think... - He'll get it when it's finished. 1047 00:53:48,508 --> 00:53:50,109 It's not finished? 1048 00:53:50,110 --> 00:53:51,411 It's almost finished. 1049 00:53:51,412 --> 00:53:54,513 - I've been watching you rehearse the demo for three weeks. - Yeah. 1050 00:53:54,514 --> 00:53:55,947 - What's left? - A little thing. 1051 00:53:55,948 --> 00:53:57,415 - What? - I think that's enough. 1052 00:53:57,416 --> 00:54:00,786 We're off the record, and Joel's always been good at understanding nuance. 1053 00:54:00,787 --> 00:54:03,022 What's left to finish? 1054 00:54:03,023 --> 00:54:07,260 I guess, in layman's terms, you'd have to say we don't have an OS. 1055 00:54:09,896 --> 00:54:12,499 - An operating system? - Yeah. 1056 00:54:13,733 --> 00:54:17,536 - What do you mean? - Well, the OS is what runs the computer. 1057 00:54:17,537 --> 00:54:19,471 In fact, it sort of is the computer. 1058 00:54:19,472 --> 00:54:21,774 How has it been running? How's it gonna run this morning? 1059 00:54:21,775 --> 00:54:24,143 What do you mean, you don't have an OS? 1060 00:54:24,144 --> 00:54:27,679 It's like this. Avie Tevanian is our chief software designer, 1061 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,947 and he wrote a demo program. 1062 00:54:28,948 --> 00:54:32,484 It's like we built a great car, but we haven't built the engine. 1063 00:54:32,485 --> 00:54:35,154 So we put a golf cart battery in there to make it go for a bit. 1064 00:54:35,155 --> 00:54:38,022 All this computer knows how to do right now is demonstrate itself. 1065 00:54:38,023 --> 00:54:40,525 You're telling me the only thing you've built is a black cube? 1066 00:54:40,526 --> 00:54:42,495 Yes. Yeah. 1067 00:54:42,496 --> 00:54:44,663 But isn't it the coolest black cube you've ever seen? 1068 00:54:44,664 --> 00:54:46,165 Is this... We're off the record. 1069 00:54:46,166 --> 00:54:48,734 Is this a strategy or a problem? If it's a problem... 1070 00:54:48,735 --> 00:54:52,737 Do not share proprietary knowledge with that man. 1071 00:54:52,738 --> 00:54:54,906 It's not a problem. 1072 00:54:54,907 --> 00:54:56,674 I wouldn't understand it anyway. 1073 00:54:56,675 --> 00:54:59,612 I don't understand it either, and my name's on the patents. 1074 00:54:59,613 --> 00:55:02,882 - It's got e-mail. - Well, e-mail's not just for tech specialists anymore. 1075 00:55:02,883 --> 00:55:04,583 Well, it is, but it won't be. 1076 00:55:04,584 --> 00:55:09,522 And I assume an e-mail sent on a NeXT computer can only be received by a NeXT computer? 1077 00:55:09,523 --> 00:55:11,524 Closed, end-to-end. 1078 00:55:11,525 --> 00:55:12,991 The new trash can is wrong. 1079 00:55:12,992 --> 00:55:15,293 I wanna tell you I appreciate all the hours you put into it, 1080 00:55:15,294 --> 00:55:18,531 but I can't because of how terrible it is. 1081 00:55:18,532 --> 00:55:19,964 Go back to the other one. 1082 00:55:19,965 --> 00:55:22,567 Why are we still giving three options on the clock? 1083 00:55:22,568 --> 00:55:25,871 - How many options do you want to give? - Two. Buy it or don't. 1084 00:55:25,872 --> 00:55:27,540 Can I talk to you for a second? 1085 00:55:27,541 --> 00:55:28,674 Abso-fruitly. 1086 00:55:28,675 --> 00:55:30,808 Uh, look, man. Avie's been recompiling, 1087 00:55:30,809 --> 00:55:33,112 but he says there may be some glitches this morning. 1088 00:55:33,113 --> 00:55:35,114 If all there are are some glitches, 1089 00:55:35,115 --> 00:55:37,815 it'll be a triumph of miraculous magnitude. 1090 00:55:37,816 --> 00:55:39,884 Why are you translating for Avie? 1091 00:55:39,885 --> 00:55:43,922 I-I didn't want him to find out the hard way your position on glitches in a demo, 1092 00:55:43,923 --> 00:55:45,958 but it sounds like you've mellowed. 1093 00:55:45,959 --> 00:55:48,960 I've been growing, Andy. I've been learning to love myself. 1094 00:55:48,961 --> 00:55:51,230 Hmm. I wouldn't have ever dreamed that was a problem. 1095 00:55:51,231 --> 00:55:52,830 Fantastic burn. 1096 00:55:52,831 --> 00:55:54,667 You need to go to your seat. 1097 00:55:54,668 --> 00:55:57,268 How about Lisa, getting into a school for gifted kids? 1098 00:55:57,269 --> 00:55:59,904 Yeah, she was tested and it turns out she can fly. 1099 00:55:59,905 --> 00:56:02,040 - Seriously, it's a big deal. - I know it's a big deal. 1100 00:56:02,041 --> 00:56:04,576 That's why I built the school a building. 1101 00:56:04,577 --> 00:56:07,880 - Well, I'm sure that's not why she got in. - Really? 1102 00:56:07,881 --> 00:56:11,485 Uh, can I show you something funny from Macworld? 1103 00:56:14,753 --> 00:56:18,790 - I can't think of anything I have to do right now. - It'll make you feel good. 1104 00:56:18,791 --> 00:56:21,793 - Joanna! Look at this! - Oh, Andy, he's only got a couple of minutes. 1105 00:56:21,794 --> 00:56:24,362 It's Guy Kawasaki writing in Macworld. You're gonna like this. 1106 00:56:24,363 --> 00:56:26,364 Well, can we all enjoy it later? 1107 00:56:26,365 --> 00:56:31,235 He wrote a parody press release about Apple buying NeXT for your OS. 1108 00:56:31,236 --> 00:56:35,139 He imagines a near future where Apple needs your OS and has to buy NeXT, 1109 00:56:35,140 --> 00:56:37,842 and-and you come back as CEO. 1110 00:56:37,843 --> 00:56:39,310 He has Gates saying, 1111 00:56:39,311 --> 00:56:44,284 "There would now be more innovations from Jobs that Microsoft could copy." 1112 00:56:46,019 --> 00:56:49,989 - You can read it later. - Thanks. 1113 00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:52,625 She would've gotten in without you donating a building. 1114 00:56:52,626 --> 00:56:56,329 Still, it's something to talk about in the interview. 1115 00:56:58,764 --> 00:57:01,266 All right. Good luck. 1116 00:57:01,267 --> 00:57:03,403 Thanks. 1117 00:57:05,005 --> 00:57:07,038 Give that to me. I'll throw it out for you. 1118 00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:10,708 I'm gonna hang on to it. 1119 00:57:10,709 --> 00:57:12,277 What? 1120 00:57:12,278 --> 00:57:14,813 What? 1121 00:57:14,814 --> 00:57:16,848 You ready for Sculley? 1122 00:57:16,849 --> 00:57:18,784 Excuse me! 1123 00:57:18,785 --> 00:57:20,685 Lisa! 1124 00:57:20,686 --> 00:57:22,588 You can't shout! 1125 00:57:29,796 --> 00:57:31,698 Lisa? 1126 00:57:40,907 --> 00:57:43,477 You have to go. 1127 00:57:44,711 --> 00:57:48,381 It's dangerous up here. That's why I make other people do it. 1128 00:57:50,115 --> 00:57:52,451 Who are you hiding from, me or your mom? 1129 00:57:52,452 --> 00:57:56,121 I'm not hiding. 1130 00:57:56,122 --> 00:57:58,592 Let's go. 1131 00:58:05,764 --> 00:58:08,299 What were you listening to? 1132 00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:11,870 I'm listening to two versions of the same song. 1133 00:58:11,871 --> 00:58:15,339 Then when I get to the ends, I rewind to listen to them again. 1134 00:58:15,340 --> 00:58:18,844 It's the same song, but the versions are different. 1135 00:58:18,845 --> 00:58:21,380 - What's the song? - Okay. 1136 00:58:21,381 --> 00:58:24,415 So it's a really old song, and it's called "Both Sides, Now." 1137 00:58:24,416 --> 00:58:28,821 - "Both Sides, Now"? - Yeah. 1138 00:58:28,822 --> 00:58:30,888 What's it about? 1139 00:58:30,889 --> 00:58:35,293 It's about... There are three verses: Clouds, love and life. 1140 00:58:35,294 --> 00:58:39,998 And the person singing is singing that they used to think of... 1141 00:58:39,999 --> 00:58:41,866 That they used to think about... 1142 00:58:41,867 --> 00:58:44,168 - Clouds, love and life? - Right. 1143 00:58:44,169 --> 00:58:48,040 One way, yeah, but now they look at them another way, and they... 1144 00:58:48,041 --> 00:58:53,911 They've come to the conclusion that they really don't know clouds, love or life at all. 1145 00:58:53,912 --> 00:58:56,415 Those are the exact words. 1146 00:58:56,416 --> 00:58:57,683 Yeah, Joni Mitchell. 1147 00:58:57,684 --> 00:59:01,955 'Cause it's not a really old song, unless I'm a really old guy. 1148 00:59:03,088 --> 00:59:05,324 You have to go to school now. 1149 00:59:05,325 --> 00:59:08,527 Do you want me to tell you the differences between the two versions? 1150 00:59:08,528 --> 00:59:09,862 Right now. 1151 00:59:09,863 --> 00:59:13,431 The first version is the kind of thing that you would call girlish. 1152 00:59:13,432 --> 00:59:15,933 I didn't mean I want to know the difference right now. 1153 00:59:15,934 --> 00:59:18,402 I meant you have to go to school right now. 1154 00:59:18,403 --> 00:59:20,105 I can stay and watch. 1155 00:59:20,106 --> 00:59:22,373 You are truant. You're committing a crime. 1156 00:59:22,374 --> 00:59:24,976 I'm not gonna miss anything important. 1157 00:59:24,977 --> 00:59:27,880 - How do you know? - I read ahead. 1158 00:59:27,881 --> 00:59:31,083 The Pilgrims make it to the New World. 1159 00:59:31,084 --> 00:59:32,984 Then the Declaration of Independence. 1160 00:59:32,985 --> 00:59:35,020 Yeah, you skipped a couple centuries. 1161 00:59:35,021 --> 00:59:37,922 Steve? Chrisann's out there. 1162 00:59:44,798 --> 00:59:46,330 Let's go. 1163 00:59:46,331 --> 00:59:48,266 Can I make my case for staying? 1164 00:59:48,267 --> 00:59:50,236 Nope. 1165 01:00:08,822 --> 01:00:11,889 - She was with me. - Come on. Your dad doesn't want us to stay. 1166 01:00:11,890 --> 01:00:14,960 That's not true. That's not... 1167 01:00:14,961 --> 01:00:17,328 You have to be in school is all. 1168 01:00:17,329 --> 01:00:20,998 I'm committing a crime right now, and I don't wanna get in trouble. 1169 01:00:20,999 --> 01:00:23,569 You're not in trouble. I was kidding. 1170 01:00:23,570 --> 01:00:25,103 Okay. 1171 01:00:25,104 --> 01:00:27,605 Hey. What was the second version? 1172 01:00:27,606 --> 01:00:30,843 You said the first version was girlish. What was the second version? 1173 01:00:32,278 --> 01:00:34,045 I can't really think of the word. 1174 01:00:34,046 --> 01:00:35,848 Okay. Well, have a good day at school. 1175 01:00:35,849 --> 01:00:38,217 - Regretful. - What? 1176 01:00:38,218 --> 01:00:41,118 Like wishing you could go back and do things different. 1177 01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:43,388 You're too young to be regretful. 1178 01:00:43,389 --> 01:00:45,891 Not me. 1179 01:00:45,892 --> 01:00:48,627 The person singing the song. 1180 01:00:48,628 --> 01:00:52,499 Got it. Regretful. That makes sense because... 1181 01:00:55,034 --> 01:00:57,537 I wanna live with you. 1182 01:01:10,048 --> 01:01:12,150 Six minutes. 1183 01:01:12,151 --> 01:01:14,754 - You want to see Sculley? - No. 1184 01:01:23,528 --> 01:01:26,931 You know all those times I told you you needed security? 1185 01:01:26,932 --> 01:01:29,535 Here's why. 1186 01:01:34,273 --> 01:01:37,442 I don't know how it is I've gotten older and you haven't. 1187 01:01:37,443 --> 01:01:40,478 Some deal with the devil I was never offered. 1188 01:01:40,479 --> 01:01:43,047 So you know what I've been thinking for the last four years? 1189 01:01:43,048 --> 01:01:46,685 As it turns out, John, I've never known what you were thinking. 1190 01:01:46,686 --> 01:01:49,453 No newborn baby has control. 1191 01:01:49,454 --> 01:01:51,389 Do you know what I'm talking about? 1192 01:01:51,390 --> 01:01:53,592 In '84, before the Mac launch. You said... 1193 01:01:53,593 --> 01:01:57,161 - Yeah. - You said that being adopted meant you didn't have control. 1194 01:01:57,162 --> 01:01:58,496 We're starting in a minute, so... 1195 01:01:58,497 --> 01:02:00,998 Why do people think I fired you? 1196 01:02:00,999 --> 01:02:03,102 It's fine, John. It's all behind us. 1197 01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:09,107 Is it? Hmm? 1198 01:02:09,108 --> 01:02:11,745 Don't play stupid. You can't pull it off. 1199 01:02:13,646 --> 01:02:16,949 You came here to ask me why people think you fired me? 1200 01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:18,985 Why do people think I fired you? 1201 01:02:20,218 --> 01:02:22,856 Just confirm something for me, okay? 1202 01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:26,024 You liked the ad, right? 1203 01:02:26,025 --> 01:02:27,692 The commercial... "1984." You liked it. 1204 01:02:27,693 --> 01:02:31,029 - When are you gonna get furniture? - It's not an easy process. 1205 01:02:31,030 --> 01:02:33,130 It is. You buy a couch, take it from there. 1206 01:02:33,131 --> 01:02:36,634 I'd be really surprised if you came here to talk about interior decorating. 1207 01:02:36,635 --> 01:02:38,069 I liked the ad very much. 1208 01:02:38,070 --> 01:02:39,170 - You did? - You know I did. 1209 01:02:39,171 --> 01:02:41,440 You're a lying son of a bitch. You tried to kill it. 1210 01:02:41,441 --> 01:02:44,342 - It's time to take a hard look at the Mac. - It's past time. 1211 01:02:44,343 --> 01:02:48,513 It's overpriced. We need to drop it to 1,995. 1212 01:02:48,514 --> 01:02:50,449 We need to double the marketing budget, 1213 01:02:50,450 --> 01:02:52,284 put more bodies on an internal hard drive 1214 01:02:52,285 --> 01:02:53,652 and invest in FileServer. 1215 01:02:53,653 --> 01:02:56,321 - Where the hell did you get the idea I tried to kill... - Lee Clow. 1216 01:02:56,322 --> 01:02:58,089 - Lee's wrong. - He's lying? 1217 01:02:58,090 --> 01:03:00,257 - He's... mistaken. - Where would the money come from? 1218 01:03:00,258 --> 01:03:02,460 It would come from finally getting rid of the Apple II. 1219 01:03:02,461 --> 01:03:04,362 The Apple II is the only thing making money. 1220 01:03:04,363 --> 01:03:07,466 - You agreed with the board. - I understood the board's concerns, but I... 1221 01:03:07,467 --> 01:03:09,534 The board's concerns that we didn't show the product? 1222 01:03:09,535 --> 01:03:11,536 - Among other things, but my question was... - What other things? 1223 01:03:11,537 --> 01:03:14,672 I'm asking because I'm curious. You said "among other things." 1224 01:03:14,673 --> 01:03:17,442 Among other things, it was set in a dystopian galaxy. 1225 01:03:17,443 --> 01:03:19,411 It took place on a planet where we don't live. 1226 01:03:19,412 --> 01:03:21,446 It was dark and the opposite of our brand. 1227 01:03:21,447 --> 01:03:23,681 And we didn't show the product. 1228 01:03:23,682 --> 01:03:27,451 People talked about the ad but most of them didn't know what we were selling. 1229 01:03:27,452 --> 01:03:29,487 The Mac needs to sell for 1,995. 1230 01:03:29,488 --> 01:03:33,525 There is no market research telling us the Mac is failing because it's overpriced. 1231 01:03:33,526 --> 01:03:37,429 It's telling us that people don't like it because they think it doesn't do anything. 1232 01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:39,764 It's closed, end-to-end. 1233 01:03:39,765 --> 01:03:42,433 We didn't know it wasn't what people wanted, but it isn't. 1234 01:03:42,434 --> 01:03:44,502 They want slots, they want choices, they want options. 1235 01:03:44,503 --> 01:03:46,804 The way we buy stereos... mix and match components. 1236 01:03:46,805 --> 01:03:49,473 John, listen to me. Whoever said the customer is always right 1237 01:03:49,474 --> 01:03:51,243 was, I promise you, a customer. 1238 01:03:51,244 --> 01:03:53,444 - It had skinheads in it. - She was liberating them. 1239 01:03:53,445 --> 01:03:56,580 - Liberating the skinheads. - The ad didn't have anything to do with fucking skinheads. 1240 01:03:56,581 --> 01:03:58,350 We used them as fucking extras. 1241 01:03:58,351 --> 01:03:59,717 Nobody even knows they were skinheads. 1242 01:03:59,718 --> 01:04:02,187 I'm just saying the board had concerns... 1243 01:04:02,188 --> 01:04:04,089 You invented lifestyle advertising. 1244 01:04:04,090 --> 01:04:05,824 And our brand was my brand. 1245 01:04:05,825 --> 01:04:08,627 My job is to make a recommendation to the board. 1246 01:04:08,628 --> 01:04:09,995 We showed a lot of happy people drinking Pepsi. 1247 01:04:09,996 --> 01:04:13,498 We didn't say the world was going to end if you bought a Dr. Pepper. 1248 01:04:13,499 --> 01:04:16,268 Recommend that we drop the price and double the marketing budget. 1249 01:04:16,269 --> 01:04:18,770 - I can't. - And we showed the product. 1250 01:04:18,771 --> 01:04:22,473 We showed it being opened, we showed it being poured, being consumed. 1251 01:04:22,474 --> 01:04:24,643 What are you gonna do, recommend that we kill the Mac? 1252 01:04:24,644 --> 01:04:27,046 I already have, Steve. 1253 01:04:28,180 --> 01:04:31,149 What? When? 1254 01:04:31,150 --> 01:04:32,717 You think the secret to your success 1255 01:04:32,718 --> 01:04:35,087 was not assuming people knew what to do with a can of soda? 1256 01:04:35,088 --> 01:04:38,489 I didn't kill the ad, Steve! I'm the only reason it made it on the air. 1257 01:04:38,490 --> 01:04:40,659 Just now. An hour ago. 1258 01:04:40,660 --> 01:04:42,359 I'm coming from Markkula's house. 1259 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,362 What did he say? 1260 01:04:45,363 --> 01:04:47,466 - What did he say? - Invent something new. 1261 01:04:47,467 --> 01:04:49,301 I'll give you a team. You can sit in Maui. 1262 01:04:49,302 --> 01:04:50,603 The resorts come with couches. 1263 01:04:50,604 --> 01:04:55,806 Wait a minute. Are you saying you recommended terminating the Mac 1264 01:04:55,807 --> 01:04:57,775 or you recommended taking me off the Mac team? 1265 01:04:57,776 --> 01:05:00,812 We bought three spots in the Super Bowl. Two 30's and a 60. 1266 01:05:00,813 --> 01:05:02,681 After we screened it, the board wanted that money back 1267 01:05:02,682 --> 01:05:04,616 and they asked me to sell off the spots. 1268 01:05:04,617 --> 01:05:07,118 Chiat/Day sold off the two 30's but not the 60, 1269 01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:08,552 and I let it be known to Lee Clow 1270 01:05:08,553 --> 01:05:10,788 that if he didn't try very hard to sell the last spot, 1271 01:05:10,789 --> 01:05:12,424 I wouldn't be unhappy. 1272 01:05:12,425 --> 01:05:14,493 If we drop the price and double the budget... 1273 01:05:14,494 --> 01:05:16,228 Drop the price or double the budget. 1274 01:05:16,229 --> 01:05:18,763 The only way to do that is to take money out of the Apple II. 1275 01:05:18,764 --> 01:05:21,533 The Apple II should embarrass you. It embarrasses me. 1276 01:05:21,534 --> 01:05:23,400 It doesn't embarrass the shareholders. 1277 01:05:23,401 --> 01:05:24,768 I don't give a shit about the shareholders. 1278 01:05:24,769 --> 01:05:27,371 That's why I hired you, so I don't have to hear about shareholders. 1279 01:05:27,372 --> 01:05:30,808 The shareholders are my problem, and the board represents the shareholders. 1280 01:05:30,809 --> 01:05:32,676 That's how it works. 1281 01:05:32,677 --> 01:05:35,279 You sure it wasn't Lee Clow who dragged his feet selling the 60? 1282 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,716 At my direction, Steve. 1283 01:05:37,717 --> 01:05:40,585 You think he would have done that on his own, taken it on himself? 1284 01:05:40,586 --> 01:05:43,288 Yeah. I think he would've done what it took to save it from you. 1285 01:05:43,289 --> 01:05:45,824 - I was the only thing protecting it. - You didn't want the ad 1286 01:05:45,825 --> 01:05:48,859 because you were trying to kill the Mac two months before it launched. 1287 01:05:48,860 --> 01:05:51,063 You are fucking delusional. 1288 01:05:53,832 --> 01:05:55,699 - Can I mention something to you? - Sure. 1289 01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:58,271 I have no earthly idea why you're here. 1290 01:05:59,838 --> 01:06:03,174 The story of why and how you left Apple, 1291 01:06:03,175 --> 01:06:05,911 which is quickly becoming mythologized, isn't true. 1292 01:06:05,912 --> 01:06:08,413 - I'm gonna take this to the board myself. - Don't do that. 1293 01:06:08,414 --> 01:06:10,181 - I am doing that. - You can't. 1294 01:06:10,182 --> 01:06:12,817 Why? 1295 01:06:12,818 --> 01:06:16,122 They believe you're no longer necessary to this company. 1296 01:06:20,425 --> 01:06:25,563 I get hate mail, death threats. 1297 01:06:25,564 --> 01:06:29,201 I get death threats. 1298 01:06:29,202 --> 01:06:33,072 My kids are getting taunted. Why do people think I fired you? 1299 01:06:35,340 --> 01:06:36,942 Joanna's gonna call my name in a second. 1300 01:06:36,943 --> 01:06:38,810 - Steve? - That was unrehearsed. 1301 01:06:38,811 --> 01:06:40,511 Yeah, I'll be there in just a second. 1302 01:06:40,512 --> 01:06:42,746 I gave you your day in court. 1303 01:06:42,747 --> 01:06:44,348 - You gave me? - I gave the board a clear choice. 1304 01:06:44,349 --> 01:06:47,953 I said, "Do you want to invest in the Apple II or the Mac?" They chose the Apple II. 1305 01:06:47,954 --> 01:06:50,288 The same people who wanted to dump the Super Bowl spot. 1306 01:06:50,289 --> 01:06:52,358 And then I got on a plane to China. 1307 01:06:53,892 --> 01:06:56,427 Mr. Sculley. There's a call for you on Line One. 1308 01:06:56,428 --> 01:06:59,697 Or I almost got on a plane, because I got a call in the lounge. 1309 01:06:59,698 --> 01:07:01,433 - Who made that call? - Doesn't matter. 1310 01:07:01,434 --> 01:07:02,967 It matters to me. Who made the call? 1311 01:07:02,968 --> 01:07:04,168 John Sculley. 1312 01:07:04,169 --> 01:07:06,004 John? If you get on that plane, 1313 01:07:06,005 --> 01:07:08,906 you'll have lost your job by the time it lands. 1314 01:07:08,907 --> 01:07:12,509 Steve's been calling the board. He wants you out. 1315 01:07:12,510 --> 01:07:15,513 I left my bags on the plane. My shit's still somewhere in Beijing. 1316 01:07:15,514 --> 01:07:18,549 I took a car back to Cupertino in the middle of the fucking night. 1317 01:07:18,550 --> 01:07:23,355 I know what time it is. I need a quorum here in one hour and I want Steve here too. 1318 01:07:23,356 --> 01:07:25,857 You took me off the Mac, and it was bad business. 1319 01:07:25,858 --> 01:07:28,726 - The quorum call was a homicide. - Right there! Right there. 1320 01:07:28,727 --> 01:07:30,462 That's the part that's bullshit, my friend. 1321 01:07:30,463 --> 01:07:31,929 It was a suicide. 1322 01:07:31,930 --> 01:07:34,665 Because you knew your cards and I showed you mine. 1323 01:07:34,666 --> 01:07:37,534 I showed you mine, and you did it anyway. 1324 01:07:37,535 --> 01:07:38,937 What did you think I was gonna do? 1325 01:07:38,938 --> 01:07:41,605 I'm okay losing, but I'm not gonna forfeit. 1326 01:07:41,606 --> 01:07:44,308 I'm not okay losing. 1327 01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:46,745 We're losing market share, and the Mac is losing money. 1328 01:07:46,746 --> 01:07:51,949 Our only hope is the Apple II, which is stagnating because of its soon-to-be-obsolete DOS. 1329 01:07:51,950 --> 01:07:55,386 Users are already rigging their machines to run with a CP/M operating system 1330 01:07:55,387 --> 01:07:56,755 that's been built to run on Intel. 1331 01:07:56,756 --> 01:07:58,857 I can't put it more simply than this. 1332 01:07:58,858 --> 01:08:01,859 We need to put our resources into updating the Apple II. 1333 01:08:01,860 --> 01:08:04,562 By taking resources from the Mac. 1334 01:08:04,563 --> 01:08:05,964 It's failing. That's a fact. 1335 01:08:05,965 --> 01:08:07,998 - It's overpriced. - There's no evidence that it's... 1336 01:08:07,999 --> 01:08:09,900 I'm the evidence! 1337 01:08:09,901 --> 01:08:13,772 I'm the world's leading expert on the Mac, John. What's your résumé? 1338 01:08:13,773 --> 01:08:15,706 You're issuing contradictory instructions, 1339 01:08:15,707 --> 01:08:17,709 you're insubordinate, you make people miserable. 1340 01:08:17,710 --> 01:08:20,844 Our top engineers are fleeing to Sun, Dell, HP. 1341 01:08:20,845 --> 01:08:22,981 Wall Street doesn't know who's driving the bus. 1342 01:08:22,982 --> 01:08:25,049 We've lost hundreds of millions in value. 1343 01:08:25,050 --> 01:08:28,686 And I'm the CEO of Apple, Steve. That's my résumé. 1344 01:08:28,687 --> 01:08:31,522 But before that, you sold carbonated sugar water, right? 1345 01:08:31,523 --> 01:08:35,427 I sat in a fucking garage with Wozniak and invented the future. 1346 01:08:35,428 --> 01:08:38,862 Because artists lead and hacks ask for a show of hands. 1347 01:08:38,863 --> 01:08:39,864 All right. 1348 01:08:39,865 --> 01:08:41,865 Well, this guy's out of control. 1349 01:08:41,866 --> 01:08:44,602 I'm perfectly willing to hand in my resignation tonight, 1350 01:08:44,603 --> 01:08:46,538 but if you want me to stay, you can't have Steve. 1351 01:08:46,539 --> 01:08:48,740 Settle him out. 1352 01:08:48,741 --> 01:08:51,843 He can keep a share of stock so he gets our newsletter. 1353 01:08:51,844 --> 01:08:54,478 He'll have to sever his connection to Apple. 1354 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,384 I'm dead serious. I want the secretary to call for a vote. 1355 01:08:59,985 --> 01:09:03,088 I fucking dare you. 1356 01:09:03,089 --> 01:09:08,759 You have done an outstanding job over the years of cultivating the press. 1357 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,294 And by that, I mean manipulating them. 1358 01:09:10,295 --> 01:09:13,932 Because none of them, none of their editors, none of their editors' publishers 1359 01:09:13,933 --> 01:09:16,066 to this day know that you forced it, 1360 01:09:16,067 --> 01:09:18,035 that you forced the board. 1361 01:09:18,036 --> 01:09:20,371 Even after I told you exactly what they'd do, 1362 01:09:20,372 --> 01:09:22,473 which is exactly what they did. 1363 01:09:22,474 --> 01:09:24,875 Unanimously. 1364 01:09:24,876 --> 01:09:27,579 I don't have any trouble remembering that, John, 1365 01:09:27,580 --> 01:09:31,048 because of it being the worst night of my life. 1366 01:09:31,049 --> 01:09:34,151 And I forced the vote because I believed I was right. 1367 01:09:34,152 --> 01:09:37,289 I still believe I'm right. And I'm right. 1368 01:09:38,758 --> 01:09:40,525 Now I bled that night. 1369 01:09:40,526 --> 01:09:42,694 And I don't bleed. 1370 01:09:42,695 --> 01:09:44,396 But time's done its thing, 1371 01:09:44,397 --> 01:09:46,998 and I really haven't thought about it in a while. 1372 01:09:46,999 --> 01:09:51,669 Now, I absolutely understand why you're upset. 1373 01:09:51,670 --> 01:09:53,737 And I want people to know the truth too. 1374 01:09:53,738 --> 01:09:55,839 It's time. 1375 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,741 Got it. 1376 01:09:57,742 --> 01:09:59,843 You're gonna end me, aren't you? 1377 01:09:59,844 --> 01:10:02,112 You're being ridiculous. 1378 01:10:02,113 --> 01:10:05,482 I'm gonna sit center court and watch you do it yourself. 1379 01:10:05,483 --> 01:10:09,119 Then I'm gonna order a nice meal with a '55 Margaux and sign some autographs. 1380 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,856 - Jesus Christ. - You want some advice, Pepsi Generation? 1381 01:10:11,857 --> 01:10:14,592 Don't send Woz out to slap me around in the press. 1382 01:10:14,593 --> 01:10:17,195 Anybody else... you, Markkula, Arthur Rock. 1383 01:10:17,196 --> 01:10:18,896 Anyone but Rain Man. 1384 01:10:18,897 --> 01:10:21,432 Don't manipulate him like that. 1385 01:10:21,433 --> 01:10:25,102 Whatever you may think, I'm always gonna protect him. 1386 01:10:25,103 --> 01:10:27,205 Come on, Steve. 1387 01:10:28,573 --> 01:10:31,176 That's what men do. 1388 01:10:31,177 --> 01:10:33,512 We can't start late. 1389 01:10:44,990 --> 01:10:48,494 I don't think there was any way to detect a chip on my shoulder. 1390 01:10:49,795 --> 01:10:51,295 Did you know, back at Bandley, 1391 01:10:51,296 --> 01:10:55,600 the Mac team gave an award every year to the person who could stand up to you? 1392 01:10:55,601 --> 01:10:56,734 No. 1393 01:10:56,735 --> 01:11:01,573 - I won. Three years in a row. - Cool. 1394 01:11:05,210 --> 01:11:06,811 This. 1395 01:11:06,812 --> 01:11:10,882 This... This Guy Kawasaki in Macworld. 1396 01:11:10,883 --> 01:11:13,651 He accidentally got it right, didn't he? 1397 01:11:13,652 --> 01:11:15,219 You've been dragging your feet on the NeXT OS 1398 01:11:15,220 --> 01:11:18,623 till you can figure out what Apple's gonna need. 1399 01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:23,828 Even if that were true, it doesn't sound that diabolical to me. 1400 01:11:23,829 --> 01:11:25,530 Hey. We're ready for you. 1401 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,543 I'm your closest confidante, your... your best friend. 1402 01:11:38,544 --> 01:11:41,713 Your thing... What do you call it? 1403 01:11:41,714 --> 01:11:43,882 Your work wife. The whole time. 1404 01:11:43,883 --> 01:11:45,883 The last three years. 1405 01:11:49,921 --> 01:11:55,660 When did you change your mind and start building the Steve Jobs Revenge Machine? 1406 01:11:58,630 --> 01:12:00,697 House to half. 1407 01:12:00,698 --> 01:12:03,302 You remember Skylab? 1408 01:12:05,070 --> 01:12:10,941 It was an unmanned satellite NASA sent up in the early '70s on a data gathering mission. 1409 01:12:10,942 --> 01:12:13,611 The thing is, when they sent it up, 1410 01:12:13,612 --> 01:12:16,146 they didn't know yet how they were gonna get it back. 1411 01:12:16,147 --> 01:12:18,182 But they felt like they were close enough 1412 01:12:18,183 --> 01:12:21,619 that in the eight years it was gonna be up there, they'd figure it out. 1413 01:12:21,620 --> 01:12:23,087 They're on their way now. 1414 01:12:23,088 --> 01:12:25,822 They didn't. 1415 01:12:25,823 --> 01:12:27,892 So after eight years, it came crashing down 1416 01:12:27,893 --> 01:12:30,561 in a thousand-mile swath across the Indian Ocean. 1417 01:12:30,562 --> 01:12:32,996 A little to the left, a little to the right, 1418 01:12:32,997 --> 01:12:34,966 somebody could have gotten hurt. 1419 01:12:34,967 --> 01:12:39,102 I really wanted to build a computer for colleges. 1420 01:12:39,103 --> 01:12:41,705 The technology just didn't catch up as fast as I needed it to. 1421 01:12:41,706 --> 01:12:43,975 You know we're out of money. 1422 01:12:43,976 --> 01:12:46,276 Ladies and gentlemen, the program will be starting momentarily. 1423 01:12:46,277 --> 01:12:49,580 But then Apple stopped innovating, and I saw something better. 1424 01:12:49,581 --> 01:12:54,718 Joanna, I know schools aren't gonna buy a $13,000 dictionary with good speakers. 1425 01:12:54,719 --> 01:12:56,755 You know I know that. 1426 01:12:58,590 --> 01:13:00,258 But Apple will. 1427 01:13:00,259 --> 01:13:03,828 'Cause Avie Tevanian is gonna build them exactly the OS they need. 1428 01:13:03,829 --> 01:13:06,731 They're gonna have to buy me too. 1429 01:13:06,732 --> 01:13:12,671 For half a billion dollars in stock and end-to-end control on every product. 1430 01:13:43,402 --> 01:13:47,372 Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome... 1431 01:13:51,009 --> 01:13:54,277 More than a year after it was first unveiled to industry insiders, 1432 01:13:54,278 --> 01:13:57,014 the NeXT Computer is finally available in stores. 1433 01:13:57,015 --> 01:14:00,752 And it appears to be two strikes in a row for Steve Jobs. 1434 01:14:00,753 --> 01:14:02,186 Students and educators 1435 01:14:02,187 --> 01:14:05,289 are finding it difficult to justify the machine's high cost. 1436 01:14:05,290 --> 01:14:07,191 So much for the black cube. 1437 01:14:07,192 --> 01:14:12,129 NeXT just sold its factory to Canon and laid off half its employees. 1438 01:14:12,130 --> 01:14:15,165 In the world of computers, it's kill or be killed. 1439 01:14:15,166 --> 01:14:17,301 Apple Computer has fallen on hard times. 1440 01:14:17,302 --> 01:14:20,103 It is laying off about 2,500 people. 1441 01:14:20,104 --> 01:14:22,306 Apple is continuing to lose market share, 1442 01:14:22,307 --> 01:14:25,142 with no new innovations in the pipeline except the Newton, 1443 01:14:25,143 --> 01:14:27,678 a pet project of CEO John Sculley. 1444 01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:30,947 If you really want to be mobile, you want a Newton PDA. 1445 01:14:30,948 --> 01:14:32,417 But then again, maybe you don't. 1446 01:14:32,418 --> 01:14:35,753 It turns handwriting into computer text. 1447 01:14:35,754 --> 01:14:39,692 Hey, Dolph, take a memo on your Newton. "Beat up Martin." 1448 01:14:41,393 --> 01:14:43,261 Bah! 1449 01:14:43,262 --> 01:14:46,030 In 1980, Apple had 30% of the market. 1450 01:14:46,031 --> 01:14:48,766 Today, Apple has only 3.2 percent. 1451 01:14:48,767 --> 01:14:52,604 That's it. John Sculley has been fired from Apple. 1452 01:14:53,938 --> 01:14:56,708 What about this Internet thing? Do you know anything about that? 1453 01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:59,444 It is the big new thing. 1454 01:14:59,445 --> 01:15:02,079 Rumors are flying around Apple Computer once again 1455 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:03,714 over who will take over the helm. 1456 01:15:03,715 --> 01:15:06,383 In the news at this hour, a remarkable high-tech reunion. 1457 01:15:06,384 --> 01:15:09,020 Well, it's happening. In a billion-dollar shakeup, 1458 01:15:09,021 --> 01:15:12,123 Apple is purchasing NeXT Computer's operating system, which may mean... 1459 01:15:12,124 --> 01:15:14,726 - Is the prodigal son returning? - Bet on it. 1460 01:15:14,727 --> 01:15:16,861 Guess what. Mac is back. 1461 01:15:16,862 --> 01:15:18,428 - Apple cofounder Steven Jobs... - Steve Jobs... 1462 01:15:18,429 --> 01:15:20,330 - Steve Jobs... - Steve Jobs... - Steve Jobs... 1463 01:15:20,331 --> 01:15:22,901 Steve Jobs is returning to Apple. 1464 01:15:24,469 --> 01:15:27,472 If you want to beam your digital photographs from your digital camera, 1465 01:15:27,473 --> 01:15:29,173 it's built into every product. 1466 01:15:29,174 --> 01:15:31,275 We're going to the new generation of I/O. 1467 01:15:31,276 --> 01:15:34,178 Twelve megabyte USB. Two ports. 1468 01:15:34,179 --> 01:15:36,748 We're leaving the old Apple I/O behind. 1469 01:15:36,749 --> 01:15:39,383 Stereo surround sound built into every product, 1470 01:15:39,384 --> 01:15:43,353 a great keyboard and the coolest mouse you've ever seen. 1471 01:15:43,354 --> 01:15:47,424 This time, we used actual mice. 1472 01:15:47,425 --> 01:15:50,895 We're opening the house in 10 minutes. Steven? 1473 01:15:50,896 --> 01:15:52,530 Do you want to stop horsing around? 1474 01:15:52,531 --> 01:15:57,000 Bless my eyes. That's Steve Wozniak sitting out there. 1475 01:16:00,004 --> 01:16:03,441 Give yourselves a treat and ask Woz if he happens to have the correct time. 1476 01:16:03,442 --> 01:16:07,410 I have the correct time, and we're running out of it. 1477 01:16:07,411 --> 01:16:11,348 - "A great keyboard"... - A great keyboard and the coolest mouse you've ever seen. 1478 01:16:11,349 --> 01:16:14,785 This is what those things look like today. 1479 01:16:14,786 --> 01:16:19,456 Now, I'd like to show you what they're gonna look like tomorrow. 1480 01:16:19,457 --> 01:16:22,360 This is the iMac. 1481 01:16:51,823 --> 01:16:53,324 That was cool. 1482 01:16:53,325 --> 01:16:55,426 Why did I like that better than I usually do? 1483 01:16:55,427 --> 01:16:57,494 - I don't know. - Something was different. 1484 01:16:57,495 --> 01:16:59,196 Hey, stupid. 1485 01:16:59,197 --> 01:17:01,432 I think she's talking to one of you guys. 1486 01:17:01,433 --> 01:17:04,235 - Did you notice a difference? - That's what I'm... 1487 01:17:04,236 --> 01:17:06,937 The exit signs were off. 1488 01:17:06,938 --> 01:17:09,472 - Full blackout. - You did it. 1489 01:17:09,473 --> 01:17:11,843 We wired all the exit lights to our board. 1490 01:17:11,844 --> 01:17:14,378 They go out with the cue for seven seconds then come back on again. In theory. 1491 01:17:14,379 --> 01:17:18,115 - We think that's legal? - No, we're very certain it's not. 1492 01:17:18,116 --> 01:17:20,484 - You want to see some quotes? - Let's hold off on those. 1493 01:17:20,485 --> 01:17:22,253 No, he'll like 'em. 1494 01:17:22,254 --> 01:17:25,758 - I'll show 'em to you later. - I'll take 'em now. 1495 01:17:27,159 --> 01:17:29,227 - I'm sorry. - Pick it up from there, please. 1496 01:17:29,228 --> 01:17:31,995 We only have a couple of minutes, so let's just do the 360. 1497 01:17:31,996 --> 01:17:35,399 We're gonna bring out a wireless camera we stole from Panasonic. 1498 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,535 I'll show you what this looks like. 1499 01:17:38,536 --> 01:17:41,438 The whole thing is translucent. You can see into it. 1500 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,975 How's that for a compromise, Woz? 1501 01:17:43,976 --> 01:17:47,544 - You still can't get into it, but you can see into it. - Fair enough. 1502 01:17:47,545 --> 01:17:51,315 We put stereo speakers in front, infrared right up here, 1503 01:17:51,316 --> 01:17:53,284 CD-ROM drive in the middle. 1504 01:17:53,285 --> 01:17:56,020 - Nice. - Dual stereo headphone jacks. 1505 01:17:56,021 --> 01:17:59,257 All the connectors are inside one beautiful little door here. 1506 01:17:59,258 --> 01:18:02,593 Ethernet. USB. 1507 01:18:02,594 --> 01:18:05,096 Even though this is a full-blooded Macintosh, 1508 01:18:05,097 --> 01:18:06,931 we're targeting it for the number one use 1509 01:18:06,932 --> 01:18:09,432 the consumers tell us they want a computer for, which is... 1510 01:18:09,433 --> 01:18:11,602 Let's hold it, please. Hold it. 1511 01:18:11,603 --> 01:18:14,571 The answer was "the Internet." 1512 01:18:14,572 --> 01:18:16,674 - Joanna? - Yeah. 1513 01:18:17,808 --> 01:18:21,145 Stand in front of me. I want to look at these quotes, but I don't want Joel to know. 1514 01:18:21,146 --> 01:18:23,349 They're all great. 1515 01:18:25,049 --> 01:18:28,151 "It is not only the coolest-looking computer introduced in years 1516 01:18:28,152 --> 01:18:29,587 but a chest-thumping statement 1517 01:18:29,588 --> 01:18:34,727 that Silicon Valley's original dream company is no longer somnambulant." 1518 01:18:36,394 --> 01:18:37,861 It's a word. It means "sleepwalking." 1519 01:18:37,862 --> 01:18:41,499 Steve? I'm sorry. We have to clear the house if we're gonna start on time. 1520 01:18:41,500 --> 01:18:43,467 - We're gonna start on time. - We're absolutely starting on time. 1521 01:18:43,468 --> 01:18:45,002 Here. Take this. 1522 01:18:45,003 --> 01:18:49,173 Everybody, that's it. They've got to mop the stage, reset and open the house. 1523 01:18:49,174 --> 01:18:50,708 I love you guys. 1524 01:18:58,951 --> 01:19:00,651 Andy, come on back a minute. 1525 01:19:00,652 --> 01:19:02,955 - Which one? - Hertzfeld. 1526 01:19:09,428 --> 01:19:13,431 Forbes calls it an "industry-altering success." 1527 01:19:13,432 --> 01:19:15,634 Look here. 1528 01:19:18,036 --> 01:19:20,236 Why haven't we ever slept together? 1529 01:19:20,237 --> 01:19:22,106 We're not in love. Look. 1530 01:19:24,175 --> 01:19:27,011 - Sculley. - Look what he said. 1531 01:19:27,012 --> 01:19:32,383 "He has implemented the same simple strategy that made Apple so successful 15 years ago... 1532 01:19:32,384 --> 01:19:35,621 make hit products and promote them with terrific marketing." 1533 01:19:36,722 --> 01:19:39,190 - It was nice of him. - It was. 1534 01:19:39,191 --> 01:19:40,691 I meant it. 1535 01:19:40,692 --> 01:19:44,261 Sightings of J.D. Salinger are more common than John Sculley. 1536 01:19:44,262 --> 01:19:47,933 I wasn't being sarcastic. It was nice of him. 1537 01:19:49,067 --> 01:19:51,134 - Do you talk to him? - No. 1538 01:19:51,135 --> 01:19:53,169 You haven't talked to him since '88? 1539 01:19:53,170 --> 01:19:55,705 I'd have told you if I did. 1540 01:19:55,706 --> 01:19:57,141 Doesn't matter. 1541 01:19:57,142 --> 01:19:58,476 I don't want people thinking they can cross me 1542 01:19:58,477 --> 01:20:02,178 and then, boom, 15 years later, I'm cool with it. 1543 01:20:02,179 --> 01:20:05,182 I was kidding. 1544 01:20:05,183 --> 01:20:07,719 What's wrong with you this morning? 1545 01:20:09,054 --> 01:20:11,089 Let's get off the stage. 1546 01:20:12,656 --> 01:20:15,759 "The only thing Apple's providing now is leadership in colors." 1547 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,460 Don't worry about it. 1548 01:20:17,461 --> 01:20:19,562 - What does Bill Gates have against me? - I don't know. 1549 01:20:19,563 --> 01:20:22,466 You're both out of your minds. Listen to me. 1550 01:20:22,467 --> 01:20:24,535 He dropped out of a better school than I dropped out of. 1551 01:20:24,536 --> 01:20:26,404 But he's a tool bag. I'll tell you why. 1552 01:20:26,405 --> 01:20:29,139 Make everything all right with Lisa. 1553 01:20:29,140 --> 01:20:32,343 You know, Joanna? Boundaries. 1554 01:20:32,344 --> 01:20:35,311 You've come to my apartment at 1:00 AM and cleaned it. 1555 01:20:35,312 --> 01:20:36,713 So tell me where the boundary is. 1556 01:20:36,714 --> 01:20:38,649 There. Let's say it's there. 1557 01:20:38,650 --> 01:20:41,685 If I give you some real projections, 1558 01:20:41,686 --> 01:20:45,489 will you promise not to repeat them from the stage? 1559 01:20:45,490 --> 01:20:48,526 What do you mean, "real projections"? 1560 01:20:48,527 --> 01:20:52,495 - What have you been giving me? - Conservative projections. 1561 01:20:52,496 --> 01:20:54,130 Marketing's been lying to me? 1562 01:20:54,131 --> 01:20:57,802 We've been managing expectations so that you don't not. 1563 01:20:57,803 --> 01:21:00,138 What are the real projections? 1564 01:21:01,406 --> 01:21:04,275 We're gonna sell a million units in the first 90 days. 1565 01:21:04,276 --> 01:21:06,209 20,000 a month after that. 1566 01:21:06,210 --> 01:21:07,611 - Holy shit. - Yeah. 1567 01:21:07,612 --> 01:21:09,346 You see? You wait long enough and... 1568 01:21:09,347 --> 01:21:11,749 What's more, 32% of the sales 1569 01:21:11,750 --> 01:21:15,785 are going to go to people buying a computer for the first time. 1570 01:21:15,786 --> 01:21:20,490 And 12% are going to people using some kind of Windows machine. 1571 01:21:20,491 --> 01:21:23,227 That's what Bill Gates has against you. 1572 01:21:24,696 --> 01:21:28,066 And it'll be the fastest-selling computer in history. 1573 01:21:29,433 --> 01:21:31,468 You brought the company back from life support 1574 01:21:31,469 --> 01:21:34,538 after going through the misery of laying off 3,000 people 1575 01:21:34,539 --> 01:21:36,774 and cutting 70% of the product line. 1576 01:21:36,775 --> 01:21:40,178 So, Steven, it's over. 1577 01:21:41,780 --> 01:21:44,280 You're gonna win. 1578 01:21:44,281 --> 01:21:48,384 - It would be criminal not to enjoy this moment. - I'm enjoying it. 1579 01:21:48,385 --> 01:21:50,420 Make things all right with Lisa. 1580 01:21:50,421 --> 01:21:52,655 - You know... - Come on. 1581 01:21:52,656 --> 01:21:56,326 I don't like having less privacy than other people have. 1582 01:21:56,327 --> 01:21:59,896 - Does being a multi-billionaire take some of the sting off that? - No. 1583 01:21:59,897 --> 01:22:03,133 - All Lisa did... - All Lisa did was give her blessing. 1584 01:22:03,134 --> 01:22:06,669 - Chrisann sold the house and... - And Lisa could have done what? 1585 01:22:06,670 --> 01:22:09,272 How was she supposed to stop her mother from selling her own house? 1586 01:22:09,273 --> 01:22:10,673 That I bought for the two of them. 1587 01:22:10,674 --> 01:22:12,008 How was she supposed to stop her? 1588 01:22:12,009 --> 01:22:15,612 Voicing an objection would have been a step in the right direction. 1589 01:22:15,613 --> 01:22:18,315 You don't think you're having a bizarre overreaction 1590 01:22:18,316 --> 01:22:21,819 to a 19-year-old girl allowing her mother to list her own house? 1591 01:22:21,820 --> 01:22:23,053 She could've tried. 1592 01:22:23,054 --> 01:22:26,757 Was she supposed to stop her mother, that particular mother... 1593 01:22:26,758 --> 01:22:29,826 She gave Chrisann her blessing to sell the house and she did it to spite me. 1594 01:22:29,827 --> 01:22:33,864 I don't care if she put a pipe bomb in the water heater. 1595 01:22:33,865 --> 01:22:36,667 You're going to fix it, now. 1596 01:22:36,668 --> 01:22:39,736 She's been acting weird for months. She's turned on me. 1597 01:22:39,737 --> 01:22:41,804 - Fix it. - What the... 1598 01:22:41,805 --> 01:22:43,440 Fix it, Steve. 1599 01:22:43,441 --> 01:22:44,941 - Take it easy. - Fix it or I quit. 1600 01:22:44,942 --> 01:22:47,178 How about that? I quit, and you never see me again. 1601 01:22:47,179 --> 01:22:49,114 How about that? 1602 01:22:50,581 --> 01:22:53,551 Tell me what's wrong with you this morning. 1603 01:22:53,552 --> 01:22:56,920 What's been wrong with me for 19 years. 1604 01:22:58,889 --> 01:23:02,860 I've been a witness, and I tell you, I've been complicit. 1605 01:23:04,362 --> 01:23:08,365 I love you, Steve. You know how much. 1606 01:23:08,366 --> 01:23:13,369 I love that you don't care how much money a person makes. You care what they make. 1607 01:23:13,370 --> 01:23:17,208 But what you make isn't supposed to be the best part of you. 1608 01:23:17,209 --> 01:23:19,810 When you're a father, 1609 01:23:19,811 --> 01:23:22,413 that's what's supposed to be the best part of you. 1610 01:23:22,414 --> 01:23:27,251 And it's caused me two decades of agony, Steve, that it is for you 1611 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,821 the worst. 1612 01:23:31,822 --> 01:23:37,329 It's a little thing. It's a very small thing. 1613 01:23:38,495 --> 01:23:40,830 Fix it. 1614 01:23:40,831 --> 01:23:46,236 Fix it now, or you can contact me at my new job... 1615 01:23:46,237 --> 01:23:49,206 working anywhere I want. 1616 01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:52,977 I don't happen to think it is a little deal. She knew that... 1617 01:23:52,978 --> 01:23:55,378 - No. - I bought the house for the two of... 1618 01:23:55,379 --> 01:23:56,746 - No. - What do you mean, "no"? 1619 01:23:56,747 --> 01:24:01,884 I mean no. The house has nothing to do with why you're angry at Lisa. 1620 01:24:01,885 --> 01:24:04,887 I assure you, the house has everything to do with why I'm angry at Lisa. 1621 01:24:04,888 --> 01:24:09,560 Have you ever heard the phrase "reality distortion field"? 1622 01:24:09,561 --> 01:24:13,731 - Yes. - As in "Steve's reality distortion field"? 1623 01:24:13,732 --> 01:24:16,633 I've heard it. I've read it. It's been sung to me by Joan Baez. 1624 01:24:16,634 --> 01:24:18,401 What you call a reality distortion field, 1625 01:24:18,402 --> 01:24:20,704 and I'm pretty sure you're the one who coined the phrase, 1626 01:24:20,705 --> 01:24:22,740 - is the reason we're here. - I know that. 1627 01:24:22,741 --> 01:24:25,042 If I traded in my bank account for a dollar 1628 01:24:25,043 --> 01:24:27,878 every time somebody told me something was impossible, I'd come out ahead. 1629 01:24:27,879 --> 01:24:29,913 - I know that too. - What's the problem? 1630 01:24:29,914 --> 01:24:32,915 - My problem? It sure isn't the house. - Jo, I... 1631 01:24:32,916 --> 01:24:37,387 It's that you told her you weren't going to pay for Harvard. 1632 01:24:37,388 --> 01:24:39,423 That child. 1633 01:24:39,424 --> 01:24:41,825 That earnest, unironic kid. 1634 01:24:41,826 --> 01:24:43,826 She told you I wasn't paying her tuition? 1635 01:24:43,827 --> 01:24:46,496 I should have hit you with something heavy a long time ago. 1636 01:24:46,497 --> 01:24:49,033 Lisa told you I wasn't paying her tuition? 1637 01:24:49,034 --> 01:24:53,303 - Andy told me that. - Which one? 1638 01:24:53,304 --> 01:24:55,371 Hertzfeld. 1639 01:24:55,372 --> 01:24:56,874 How would Hertzfeld know? 1640 01:24:56,875 --> 01:25:00,910 He wrote Harvard a check for 25,000 to cover the semester. 1641 01:25:00,911 --> 01:25:03,847 Are you fucking... He paid her tuition? 1642 01:25:03,848 --> 01:25:06,717 Isn't that why you just asked to see him? 1643 01:25:06,718 --> 01:25:08,319 No, I asked to see him about something... 1644 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,722 Did you tell her you weren't going to pay for college? 1645 01:25:11,723 --> 01:25:13,723 - Yes, because... - How could you do that? 1646 01:25:13,724 --> 01:25:16,959 Because her mother, who is also her landlord... 1647 01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,928 Hertzfeld? I was ranting. 1648 01:25:18,929 --> 01:25:21,498 I was just, you know... I was talking. You think I would... 1649 01:25:21,499 --> 01:25:25,602 I was pissed off because Lisa was trying to piss me off, Joanna. 1650 01:25:25,603 --> 01:25:27,003 That was her intent. I don't know... 1651 01:25:27,004 --> 01:25:29,572 You obviously scared the hell out of her. 1652 01:25:29,573 --> 01:25:33,144 Hertzfeld wrote a check to Harvard, pay for... 1653 01:25:34,345 --> 01:25:35,978 - Is she here yet? - I'm sure she is. 1654 01:25:35,979 --> 01:25:38,348 Can you have someone bring her back? 1655 01:25:38,349 --> 01:25:40,084 Yes. 1656 01:25:41,486 --> 01:25:43,421 Thank you. 1657 01:25:46,825 --> 01:25:48,559 You know, 1658 01:25:49,994 --> 01:25:51,695 my grandmother always used to say to me... 1659 01:25:51,696 --> 01:25:54,131 I don't give a shit, Yentl. 1660 01:25:55,733 --> 01:25:57,767 - I'll have someone get Lisa. - Thank you. 1661 01:25:57,768 --> 01:26:00,036 And if you see Hertzfeld... 1662 01:26:00,037 --> 01:26:01,972 It's Andy. 1663 01:26:01,973 --> 01:26:05,109 Speak of the devil's chief engineer. 1664 01:26:05,110 --> 01:26:06,377 Go. 1665 01:26:06,378 --> 01:26:08,412 Come on in. 1666 01:26:10,415 --> 01:26:12,383 You look great today. 1667 01:26:12,384 --> 01:26:13,851 - Thank you. - Doesn't she? 1668 01:26:13,852 --> 01:26:17,488 She looks fantastic. Always does. Get out. 1669 01:26:19,390 --> 01:26:21,991 - Well, I think I know why I'm here. - Do you? 1670 01:26:21,992 --> 01:26:22,726 Steve... 1671 01:26:22,727 --> 01:26:25,596 - Did you send the check yet? - Yes. 1672 01:26:25,597 --> 01:26:28,831 So Harvard got a tuition check from Andy Hertzfeld to pay for Lisa? 1673 01:26:28,832 --> 01:26:30,868 I don't think they look that carefully. 1674 01:26:30,869 --> 01:26:33,771 I don't think they'd notice the check didn't come from you. 1675 01:26:33,772 --> 01:26:36,673 Close one. This was almost embarrassing for me. 1676 01:26:36,674 --> 01:26:38,609 I understand how... 1677 01:26:38,610 --> 01:26:40,177 I'll wire you the money today. 1678 01:26:40,178 --> 01:26:43,746 I-I understand how you feel. And I do apologize. I do. 1679 01:26:43,747 --> 01:26:46,016 But let me tell you my thinking. 1680 01:26:46,017 --> 01:26:48,685 I can't even think of an appropriate analogy to describe what you did. 1681 01:26:48,686 --> 01:26:51,187 I knew you guys would fix things. You always do. 1682 01:26:51,188 --> 01:26:54,991 But in the meantime, if the money wasn't there, she'd miss a semester of school. 1683 01:26:54,992 --> 01:26:58,728 - Yeah. - And she'd have to tell her friends why. 1684 01:26:58,729 --> 01:27:01,197 And she needed things. She needed socks. 1685 01:27:01,198 --> 01:27:05,436 - What? - It's cold in Cambridge. She needed warm socks. 1686 01:27:05,437 --> 01:27:10,206 - You gave her socks? - Well, I gave her money for socks. 1687 01:27:10,207 --> 01:27:13,509 You don't get to deputize yourself as her interim. 1688 01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:15,945 You don't get to override my decisions. Do you understand? 1689 01:27:15,946 --> 01:27:18,115 You don't get to act like you're her father. 1690 01:27:18,116 --> 01:27:20,683 Somebody had to. 1691 01:27:20,684 --> 01:27:22,785 What the fuck did you just say to me? 1692 01:27:22,786 --> 01:27:26,656 I've known her since she was six. 1693 01:27:26,657 --> 01:27:28,859 I also consider... 1694 01:27:28,860 --> 01:27:34,130 Chrisann's my friend, outside of what you and I... outside of our relationship. 1695 01:27:34,131 --> 01:27:36,900 - So you're like a family adviser. - I'm a family friend. 1696 01:27:36,901 --> 01:27:39,602 Then you probably know that Lisa's been seeing a therapist. 1697 01:27:39,603 --> 01:27:41,170 - Yeah. - For many years. 1698 01:27:41,171 --> 01:27:43,474 - Yeah. - Without my knowledge. 1699 01:27:44,909 --> 01:27:46,776 That really wasn't my business. 1700 01:27:46,777 --> 01:27:50,079 I'm fascinated by what you think is and isn't your business. 1701 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:54,218 Lisa's been going to a therapist and she likes it 1702 01:27:54,219 --> 01:27:57,855 and would love for you and Chrisann to go with her. 1703 01:27:57,856 --> 01:28:02,493 And the reason you know that is because you're the one that recommended the therapist. 1704 01:28:02,494 --> 01:28:04,561 Well, I know a guy. 1705 01:28:04,562 --> 01:28:08,466 No, I mean you're the one who recommended that she see a therapist. 1706 01:28:09,634 --> 01:28:14,036 You know what? It was a while ago, and I don't remember how the whole... 1707 01:28:14,037 --> 01:28:17,106 You told Chrisann that Lisa should see a therapist. 1708 01:28:17,107 --> 01:28:20,244 Steve, you're stigmatizing. It's a perfectly norm... 1709 01:28:20,245 --> 01:28:22,612 It's not... 1710 01:28:22,613 --> 01:28:24,681 My thing was, how can it hurt? 1711 01:28:24,682 --> 01:28:26,651 Let's find out. 1712 01:28:27,719 --> 01:28:29,151 Chrisann is my friend. 1713 01:28:29,152 --> 01:28:32,522 - What was the reason you gave? - You mean... 1714 01:28:32,523 --> 01:28:36,660 What was the reason you gave Chrisann why Lisa should see a therapist? 1715 01:28:36,661 --> 01:28:38,794 I don't remember. We were talking and I said... 1716 01:28:38,795 --> 01:28:42,166 It's pretty much what I just said, that it certainly couldn't hurt. 1717 01:28:43,634 --> 01:28:47,171 You didn't say that Lisa needed a strong male role model? 1718 01:28:54,112 --> 01:28:55,680 I did. 1719 01:29:02,253 --> 01:29:07,659 I think it's a miracle she's not robbing banks with the Symbionese Liberation Army. 1720 01:29:10,295 --> 01:29:15,331 There's no reason in the world why she should be nice. 1721 01:29:15,332 --> 01:29:17,535 But she is. 1722 01:29:19,937 --> 01:29:24,641 So I helped, because somebody had to. 1723 01:29:30,281 --> 01:29:33,218 I'll wire the money to you this afternoon. 1724 01:29:44,963 --> 01:29:48,130 You threatened me a long time ago. 1725 01:29:48,131 --> 01:29:49,800 Sorry? 1726 01:29:51,835 --> 01:29:54,937 A long time ago... You threatened me once. 1727 01:29:54,938 --> 01:29:57,007 People are attracted to people with talent. 1728 01:29:57,008 --> 01:29:59,209 People without it find that threatening. 1729 01:29:59,210 --> 01:30:01,277 Maybe you should see a therapist. 1730 01:30:01,278 --> 01:30:03,879 Certainly couldn't hurt. 1731 01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,216 I meant you literally threatened me. 1732 01:30:06,217 --> 01:30:08,752 At Flint, right before the Mac launch. 1733 01:30:08,753 --> 01:30:11,053 I was recompiling. I was trying to debug the voice demo. 1734 01:30:11,054 --> 01:30:15,392 You said if I couldn't find a solution, you'd call me out in front of the audience. 1735 01:30:15,393 --> 01:30:17,861 - Did it say "hello"? - It did. 1736 01:30:17,862 --> 01:30:21,263 No need to thank me. 1737 01:30:21,264 --> 01:30:25,067 Why do you want people to dislike you? 1738 01:30:25,068 --> 01:30:28,237 I don't want people to dislike me. 1739 01:30:28,238 --> 01:30:31,342 I'm indifferent to whether they dislike me. 1740 01:30:32,910 --> 01:30:35,847 Since it doesn't matter, I always have. 1741 01:30:37,180 --> 01:30:39,084 Really? 1742 01:30:40,351 --> 01:30:44,656 I've always liked you a lot. That's too bad. 1743 01:30:46,823 --> 01:30:49,693 - Knock 'em dead. - Thank you. 1744 01:31:11,381 --> 01:31:16,152 What is remarkable, what's hard to fathom but true, 1745 01:31:16,153 --> 01:31:22,494 is that for a given clock rate, a PowerPC chip is twice as fast as a Pentium II chip. 1746 01:31:35,372 --> 01:31:37,541 In other words, 1747 01:31:38,742 --> 01:31:41,277 a 266 megahertz G3 chip 1748 01:31:41,278 --> 01:31:46,817 is twice as fast as a 266 megahertz Pentium II. 1749 01:31:49,853 --> 01:31:54,124 Or... a 266 G3 1750 01:31:54,125 --> 01:31:58,227 is equal to about 500 megahertz. 1751 01:31:58,228 --> 01:32:01,330 Do you know what a coincidence is, Lisa? 1752 01:32:01,331 --> 01:32:03,999 Take a look at Byte magazine's Byte Marks, 1753 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,670 the gold standard for any... 1754 01:32:11,209 --> 01:32:14,646 Come in. 1755 01:32:17,482 --> 01:32:20,182 I sent someone into the lobby. 1756 01:32:20,183 --> 01:32:22,017 - They found her, and she... - Where is she? 1757 01:32:22,018 --> 01:32:24,887 She said she'd rather not come back. 1758 01:32:24,888 --> 01:32:27,257 - Why? - That was it. 1759 01:32:27,258 --> 01:32:30,259 - I'm going out there myself. - You can't. You can't. 1760 01:32:30,260 --> 01:32:32,027 It'll be a scene out of Hard Day's Night. 1761 01:32:34,898 --> 01:32:37,267 - Excuse me. - Hey, Joel. 1762 01:32:37,268 --> 01:32:39,102 Andy said it was okay to come back. 1763 01:32:39,103 --> 01:32:41,739 - Which one? - Andy Cunningham. 1764 01:32:42,839 --> 01:32:45,808 I can't do this forever. I need one of them to change their name. 1765 01:32:45,809 --> 01:32:47,910 You call Andy Cunningham "Andrea." 1766 01:32:47,911 --> 01:32:49,311 It doesn't matter what I call them. 1767 01:32:49,312 --> 01:32:51,047 I know who I'm talking about when I'm talking. 1768 01:32:51,048 --> 01:32:52,915 I need everyone else to call them different names. 1769 01:32:52,916 --> 01:32:54,952 Give me one second. 1770 01:32:59,223 --> 01:33:01,792 Can you go get her for me, please? 1771 01:33:01,793 --> 01:33:03,459 I just talked to Andy. 1772 01:33:03,460 --> 01:33:05,227 Hertzfeld. 1773 01:33:05,228 --> 01:33:08,464 I'm just trying to scrub this out of my brain with Drano. 1774 01:33:08,465 --> 01:33:10,866 But I do want to talk to Lisa. 1775 01:33:10,867 --> 01:33:13,402 Okay. Just... 1776 01:33:13,403 --> 01:33:15,706 - Stay cool. - Okay. 1777 01:33:18,009 --> 01:33:19,744 Thank you. 1778 01:33:27,285 --> 01:33:29,019 Hey, Steve. 1779 01:33:41,464 --> 01:33:44,834 - How are you feeling? - I'm feeling good, Joel. How about you? 1780 01:33:44,835 --> 01:33:47,503 I don't think I could be in your business. It changes too quickly. 1781 01:33:47,504 --> 01:33:50,841 Well, I'd hang on, 'cause yours is about to start changing pretty quickly too. 1782 01:33:50,842 --> 01:33:54,009 This is the third time in 14 years I'm writing about you. 1783 01:33:54,010 --> 01:33:57,414 What do you think so far? 1784 01:33:57,415 --> 01:34:01,183 Excuse me. Avie's looking for you. He has a new shark. 1785 01:34:01,184 --> 01:34:03,655 - You wanna come backstage for a second? - Sure. 1786 01:34:06,957 --> 01:34:10,160 - Who's this one? - Alan Turing. 1787 01:34:10,161 --> 01:34:13,896 Single-handedly won World War II and, for an encore, invented the computer. 1788 01:34:13,897 --> 01:34:16,098 - He won't be part of the campaign though. - Why not? 1789 01:34:16,099 --> 01:34:18,535 'Cause you just had to ask me who he was. 1790 01:34:19,870 --> 01:34:21,838 Can I see new shark? 1791 01:34:24,375 --> 01:34:26,543 I like it better than the old shark. 1792 01:34:26,544 --> 01:34:28,178 - Sharks. - Sharks. 1793 01:34:28,179 --> 01:34:30,079 - How many sharks did you go through? - A couple. 1794 01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,883 - This is the 39th. - We're on the record. 1795 01:34:33,884 --> 01:34:36,553 - Thirty-nine sharks. - Okay. 1796 01:34:36,554 --> 01:34:38,621 - You know what's special about this shark? - What? 1797 01:34:38,622 --> 01:34:43,293 No, I'm really asking, because it looks exactly like the other 38 sharks to me. 1798 01:34:43,294 --> 01:34:45,294 Let me see it with the cue, from the profile. 1799 01:34:45,295 --> 01:34:47,163 This is cue 92-B. 1800 01:34:47,164 --> 01:34:51,368 This is a profile here, and this is what it looks like from the back. 1801 01:34:51,369 --> 01:34:56,172 And one more thing. It eats Pentium notebooks as a light snack. 1802 01:34:56,173 --> 01:34:59,241 This is the shark. 1803 01:34:59,242 --> 01:35:01,511 I really like it. 1804 01:35:01,512 --> 01:35:03,312 Nobody gets it right the first time, 1805 01:35:03,313 --> 01:35:05,915 but I should have been shown this shark 15, 20 fish ago. 1806 01:35:05,916 --> 01:35:07,616 - You probably were. - Lock it in. 1807 01:35:07,617 --> 01:35:09,451 Ten minutes. 1808 01:35:09,452 --> 01:35:13,956 He killed himself by taking a bite of a poison apple... Alan Turing. 1809 01:35:13,957 --> 01:35:15,091 Yeah. 1810 01:35:15,092 --> 01:35:17,694 There should be statues of that man. 1811 01:35:17,695 --> 01:35:20,062 His name should be on the lips of schoolchildren. 1812 01:35:20,063 --> 01:35:23,633 The rainbow flag apple with a bite taken out... That's where it came from? 1813 01:35:23,634 --> 01:35:26,503 No, we picked it off a list of friendly-sounding words. 1814 01:35:26,504 --> 01:35:29,472 But wouldn't it be great if that had been the story behind it? 1815 01:35:29,473 --> 01:35:33,075 Steve. Kinda liked the last shark. 1816 01:35:33,076 --> 01:35:35,011 Fuck you. 1817 01:35:35,012 --> 01:35:36,612 I wanted to ask you a favor. 1818 01:35:36,613 --> 01:35:37,813 My friend, a long time ago, 1819 01:35:37,814 --> 01:35:40,583 you asked me a favor before a product launch, and I said no. 1820 01:35:40,584 --> 01:35:43,018 - You wanted me to acknowledge... - Hang on. 1821 01:35:43,019 --> 01:35:47,289 If you're about to say you were wrong, I want to prepare this journalist. 1822 01:35:47,290 --> 01:35:51,628 I was 100% right, and you were spectacularly wrong. 1823 01:35:51,629 --> 01:35:54,129 But I still owe you a favor, so name it. 1824 01:35:54,130 --> 01:35:55,697 Steve... 1825 01:35:55,698 --> 01:36:00,369 - It can't be acknowledging the Apple II team. - Acknowledge the Apple II team. 1826 01:36:00,370 --> 01:36:02,172 - How about in private? - No. 1827 01:36:02,173 --> 01:36:03,606 - Is this a prank? - No. 1828 01:36:03,607 --> 01:36:05,741 I'm trying to remember that a 300 megahertz G3 chip... 1829 01:36:05,742 --> 01:36:08,012 Just the top guys. 1830 01:36:10,380 --> 01:36:12,082 Steve. 1831 01:36:15,119 --> 01:36:16,686 - Excuse me, okay? - Yep. 1832 01:36:16,687 --> 01:36:19,188 One second. 1833 01:36:21,692 --> 01:36:26,096 - She said she'd rather not. - What do you mean? 1834 01:36:26,097 --> 01:36:29,432 She's sitting with her friends, and she said she'd rather not come back. 1835 01:36:29,433 --> 01:36:31,433 Okay. Tell her... Take her aside. 1836 01:36:31,434 --> 01:36:33,436 I don't want to embarrass her in front of her friends. 1837 01:36:33,437 --> 01:36:35,672 But tell her I just scared the shit out of Andy, 1838 01:36:35,673 --> 01:36:38,209 and this time, nobody's paying her fucking... 1839 01:36:39,477 --> 01:36:41,544 All right. Don't say that. 1840 01:36:41,545 --> 01:36:44,146 But do your thing where you sound old and wise 1841 01:36:44,147 --> 01:36:47,417 because of the broad, tragic European canvas of your life. 1842 01:36:47,418 --> 01:36:50,285 You know I wasn't born in a 19th-century shtetl, right? 1843 01:36:50,286 --> 01:36:52,454 Please tell her it's important. 1844 01:36:52,455 --> 01:36:55,025 - Everything all right? - Yeah. 1845 01:36:55,026 --> 01:36:56,625 - There are people around here, man... - I know. 1846 01:36:56,626 --> 01:37:00,562 - Including a member of the press. - I see him. 1847 01:37:00,563 --> 01:37:01,664 Woz. 1848 01:37:01,665 --> 01:37:04,936 Just the top guys, the ones who are getting laid off. 1849 01:37:06,137 --> 01:37:08,405 Listen, okay? 1850 01:37:08,406 --> 01:37:13,343 Last year, Apple lost one billion dollars. 1851 01:37:13,344 --> 01:37:15,311 I don't even know how that's possible. 1852 01:37:15,312 --> 01:37:17,780 You were less than 90 days from being insolvent. 1853 01:37:17,781 --> 01:37:20,583 I had three different accountants try to explain it to me. 1854 01:37:20,584 --> 01:37:23,585 The whole place has to be streamlined. 1855 01:37:23,586 --> 01:37:26,188 - Start with two of the accountants. - I started with the... 1856 01:37:26,189 --> 01:37:29,225 - Joel, could you come offstage? We're gonna go backstage. - Leave him right there. 1857 01:37:29,226 --> 01:37:33,596 I started with the Apple II team because we don't make that anymore. 1858 01:37:33,597 --> 01:37:37,333 - Just acknowledge the top guys. - Have a mimosa and relax. 1859 01:37:37,334 --> 01:37:39,835 You will not blow me off right now, Steve. 1860 01:37:39,836 --> 01:37:42,605 - The top guys deserve... - There are no top guys. 1861 01:37:42,606 --> 01:37:45,208 All right? On the Apple II team, there are no top guys. 1862 01:37:45,209 --> 01:37:48,645 They're "B" players, and "B" players discourage the "A" players. 1863 01:37:48,646 --> 01:37:50,612 I want "A" players at Apple and not Dell. 1864 01:37:50,613 --> 01:37:53,348 They're not "B" players, and I'm a better judge of that. 1865 01:37:53,349 --> 01:37:55,819 Less than 90 days from insolvency, 1866 01:37:55,820 --> 01:37:59,588 in part because somebody thought the Newton wasn't a box of garbage. 1867 01:37:59,589 --> 01:38:01,223 - Joel, could you come offstage, please? - Leave him. 1868 01:38:01,224 --> 01:38:02,659 I'm talking about... 1869 01:38:02,660 --> 01:38:05,261 You guys designed and shipped a little box of garbage while I was gone. 1870 01:38:05,262 --> 01:38:06,728 I'm talking about the Apple II, 1871 01:38:06,729 --> 01:38:09,531 which is not just a crucial part of this company's history, 1872 01:38:09,532 --> 01:38:12,102 it is a crucial part of the history of personal computing. 1873 01:38:12,103 --> 01:38:13,770 For a time. 1874 01:38:13,771 --> 01:38:16,371 The least you can do, if you're going to downsize these people... 1875 01:38:16,372 --> 01:38:19,174 They're gonna live in the biggest houses of anyone on the unemployment line. 1876 01:38:19,175 --> 01:38:23,480 Is to acknowledge them. Acknowledge them and the Apple II during this launch. 1877 01:38:23,481 --> 01:38:25,048 This is a new animal. 1878 01:38:25,049 --> 01:38:29,185 This whole place was built by the Apple II. You were built by the Apple II. 1879 01:38:29,186 --> 01:38:32,254 As a matter of fact, I was destroyed by the Apple II and its open system 1880 01:38:32,255 --> 01:38:34,124 so that hackers and hobbyists 1881 01:38:34,125 --> 01:38:37,593 could build ham radios or something. 1882 01:38:37,594 --> 01:38:39,395 And then it nearly destroyed Apple 1883 01:38:39,396 --> 01:38:41,431 when you spent all your money on it 1884 01:38:41,432 --> 01:38:44,700 and developed a grand total of no new products. 1885 01:38:44,701 --> 01:38:46,669 - The Newton. - The little box of garbage. 1886 01:38:46,670 --> 01:38:50,775 You guys came up with the Newton. You want people to know that? 1887 01:38:52,675 --> 01:38:56,146 This is a product launch, not a luncheon. 1888 01:38:56,147 --> 01:38:58,248 The last thing I want to do is connect the iMac to... 1889 01:38:58,249 --> 01:39:01,217 To the only successful product that this company has ever made. 1890 01:39:01,218 --> 01:39:04,654 I'm sorry to be blunt, but that happens to be the truth. 1891 01:39:04,655 --> 01:39:08,624 The Lisa was a failure. The Macintosh was a failure. 1892 01:39:08,625 --> 01:39:10,692 I don't like talking like this, 1893 01:39:10,693 --> 01:39:15,431 but I am tired of being Ringo when I know I was John. 1894 01:39:15,432 --> 01:39:16,833 Everybody loves Ringo. 1895 01:39:16,834 --> 01:39:19,903 And I'm tired of being patronized by you. 1896 01:39:21,705 --> 01:39:24,339 You think John became John by winning a raffle, Woz? 1897 01:39:24,340 --> 01:39:25,708 You think he tricked somebody 1898 01:39:25,709 --> 01:39:28,311 or hit George Harrison over the head? 1899 01:39:28,312 --> 01:39:30,245 He was John because he was John. 1900 01:39:30,246 --> 01:39:34,584 He was John 'cause he wrote "Ticket to Ride." And I wrote the Apple II. 1901 01:39:34,585 --> 01:39:38,122 - Everybody? I want to clear the auditorium. - Nobody moves. 1902 01:39:40,456 --> 01:39:42,292 You made a beautiful board, 1903 01:39:42,293 --> 01:39:44,427 which, by the way, you were willing to give out for free, 1904 01:39:44,428 --> 01:39:46,495 so don't tell me how you built Apple. 1905 01:39:46,496 --> 01:39:48,897 If it weren't for me, you'd be the easiest "A" at Homestead High School. 1906 01:39:48,898 --> 01:39:53,203 These people live and die by your praise, so here's your chance. 1907 01:39:53,204 --> 01:39:58,241 Acknowledge that something good happened that you weren't in the room for. 1908 01:40:01,378 --> 01:40:03,612 - No. - Steve. 1909 01:40:03,613 --> 01:40:08,184 Do it. It's right. It's... 1910 01:40:09,820 --> 01:40:11,353 It's right. 1911 01:40:11,354 --> 01:40:13,489 Sorry, but no. 1912 01:40:13,490 --> 01:40:16,892 Then let me put it another way. 1913 01:40:16,893 --> 01:40:19,795 I don't think there's a man who's done more to advance 1914 01:40:19,796 --> 01:40:23,333 the democratization that comes with personal computing than I have, 1915 01:40:23,334 --> 01:40:24,901 but you've never had any respect for me. 1916 01:40:24,902 --> 01:40:27,004 Now why is that? 1917 01:40:28,272 --> 01:40:29,638 I'd at least consider the possibility 1918 01:40:29,639 --> 01:40:31,673 that it's because you've never had any for me. 1919 01:40:33,978 --> 01:40:35,712 What the hell is going on here? 1920 01:40:35,713 --> 01:40:39,183 Nothing. Thank you for your time. 1921 01:40:42,686 --> 01:40:45,788 It's done. She's coming back. 1922 01:40:45,789 --> 01:40:48,358 You came a half-inch from putting this company out of business. 1923 01:40:49,927 --> 01:40:52,162 Now who do I see about that? 1924 01:40:53,296 --> 01:40:55,498 I'm letting you keep your job. 1925 01:40:55,499 --> 01:40:57,902 You get a pass. 1926 01:41:00,403 --> 01:41:01,803 You know, when people used to ask me 1927 01:41:01,804 --> 01:41:04,374 what the difference was between me and Steve Jobs, 1928 01:41:04,375 --> 01:41:07,477 I would say Steve was the big-picture guy 1929 01:41:07,478 --> 01:41:09,411 and I liked a solid workbench. 1930 01:41:09,412 --> 01:41:11,414 When people ask me what the difference is now, 1931 01:41:11,415 --> 01:41:13,850 I say "Steve's an asshole." 1932 01:41:13,851 --> 01:41:16,652 Your products are better than you are, brother. 1933 01:41:16,653 --> 01:41:19,621 That's the idea, brother. 1934 01:41:19,622 --> 01:41:23,459 And knowing that, that's the difference. 1935 01:41:23,460 --> 01:41:26,462 It's not binary. 1936 01:41:26,463 --> 01:41:30,034 You can be decent and gifted at the same time. 1937 01:41:51,722 --> 01:41:53,856 He didn't mean it. 1938 01:41:53,857 --> 01:41:55,960 Yeah, he did. 1939 01:41:58,429 --> 01:42:00,397 He's a temperamental guy. 1940 01:42:01,598 --> 01:42:03,300 No, he's not. 1941 01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:10,505 It's like five minutes before every launch, 1942 01:42:10,506 --> 01:42:14,677 everyone goes to a bar, gets drunk and tells me what they really think. 1943 01:42:14,678 --> 01:42:17,414 She's coming to your dressing room. 1944 01:42:28,025 --> 01:42:30,426 I told you to make things all right with Lisa. 1945 01:42:30,427 --> 01:42:33,730 I didn't say you had to settle every blood feud you have. 1946 01:42:33,731 --> 01:42:37,767 Last time blood feuds weren't settled, I lost the cover of Time. 1947 01:42:37,768 --> 01:42:41,471 Though for the life of me, I still don't know what the hell Dan Kottke was mad at me about. 1948 01:42:41,472 --> 01:42:44,139 - Kottke didn't lose you the cover of Time. - Of course he did. 1949 01:42:44,140 --> 01:42:46,776 Would you like me to demonstrate your capacity to be wrong 1950 01:42:46,777 --> 01:42:48,378 when you're certain you're right? 1951 01:42:48,379 --> 01:42:50,847 Dan Kottke told Time magazine that I was denying... 1952 01:42:50,848 --> 01:42:52,615 Do you remember the cover? 1953 01:42:52,616 --> 01:42:54,150 - Of Time? - Yes. 1954 01:42:54,151 --> 01:42:55,918 - Yes. - What was it? 1955 01:42:55,919 --> 01:42:57,986 - What are you talking about? - What was on the cover? 1956 01:42:57,987 --> 01:42:59,588 - A computer. - No. 1957 01:42:59,589 --> 01:43:01,990 It was a sculpture of a computer. 1958 01:43:01,991 --> 01:43:04,561 It was a sculpture. 1959 01:43:05,696 --> 01:43:08,865 Time would have had to have commissioned it months in advance. 1960 01:43:08,866 --> 01:43:11,066 You were never in the conversation for Man of the Year. 1961 01:43:11,067 --> 01:43:12,768 Nobody lost you anything. 1962 01:43:12,769 --> 01:43:14,637 ...picture of me and the Mac. 1963 01:43:14,638 --> 01:43:17,673 So what else are you sure about? 1964 01:43:17,674 --> 01:43:20,575 I don't know how I could've missed that. 1965 01:43:20,576 --> 01:43:22,611 - Reality distortion. - No, seriously. 1966 01:43:22,612 --> 01:43:23,812 Seriously. 1967 01:43:23,813 --> 01:43:26,615 Don't try to win an argument with Lisa. 1968 01:43:26,616 --> 01:43:29,752 Just say you were wrong. 1969 01:43:29,753 --> 01:43:31,856 Come on in, honey. 1970 01:43:32,889 --> 01:43:35,424 - It's not "honey." - John. 1971 01:43:35,425 --> 01:43:37,627 Get in. Get in. Get out of the hall. 1972 01:43:37,628 --> 01:43:39,061 I was taken in a side entrance. 1973 01:43:39,062 --> 01:43:40,963 I'll go out the same way. No one will see me. 1974 01:43:40,964 --> 01:43:43,566 - How are you, Joanna? - I'm good, John. 1975 01:43:43,567 --> 01:43:46,102 I'm just surprised to see you. 1976 01:43:46,103 --> 01:43:48,704 Everyone here really appreciates the quote you gave to Forbes. 1977 01:43:48,705 --> 01:43:51,507 - You didn't have to do that. - My pleasure. 1978 01:43:51,508 --> 01:43:54,544 If you want, I can slip you in the back once the house lights go out. 1979 01:43:54,545 --> 01:43:57,548 - I'm just here to say "good luck." - Okay. 1980 01:43:58,915 --> 01:44:00,917 You just have a couple of minutes. 1981 01:44:00,918 --> 01:44:03,254 - Would you try to find... - Yeah. 1982 01:44:07,457 --> 01:44:09,559 You're a good man, John. 1983 01:44:21,905 --> 01:44:25,040 So I brought you a present. 1984 01:44:25,041 --> 01:44:26,709 A Newton. 1985 01:44:26,710 --> 01:44:32,514 Don't take it out of the box, you'll be able to sell it, which is more than I can say. 1986 01:44:32,515 --> 01:44:34,484 Everything all right there? 1987 01:44:34,485 --> 01:44:36,752 Uh, no... 1988 01:44:36,753 --> 01:44:39,754 Just something Joanna pointed out to me. 1989 01:44:39,755 --> 01:44:43,025 I missed something so obvious about... 1990 01:44:43,026 --> 01:44:44,628 Doesn't matter. 1991 01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:50,098 Look, Wall Street's gonna sit back and wait to see how you do as CEO, 1992 01:44:50,099 --> 01:44:52,968 so don't let any fluctuation bother you for the first 12 months. 1993 01:44:52,969 --> 01:44:55,472 Day traders are gonna respond. 1994 01:44:56,506 --> 01:44:58,409 I don't need to school you. 1995 01:44:59,643 --> 01:45:01,843 This your way of telling me I shouldn't have killed the Newton? 1996 01:45:01,844 --> 01:45:06,281 The most efficient animal on the planet is the condor. 1997 01:45:06,282 --> 01:45:09,084 The most inefficient animals on the planet are humans. 1998 01:45:09,085 --> 01:45:11,853 Well, you shouldn't have killed it for spite. 1999 01:45:11,854 --> 01:45:15,290 That's bad business. Don't do that. 2000 01:45:15,291 --> 01:45:20,663 But a human with a bicycle becomes the most efficient animal. 2001 01:45:20,664 --> 01:45:22,798 And the right computer... 2002 01:45:22,799 --> 01:45:25,601 a friendly, easy computer that isn't an eyesore 2003 01:45:25,602 --> 01:45:30,071 but rather sits on your desk with the beauty of a Tensor lamp... 2004 01:45:30,072 --> 01:45:35,076 The right computer will be a bicycle for the mind. 2005 01:45:35,077 --> 01:45:37,679 Do you like it? 2006 01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,081 I was giving back. 2007 01:45:40,082 --> 01:45:44,219 And what if instead of it being in the right hands, 2008 01:45:44,220 --> 01:45:46,289 it was in everyone's hands? 2009 01:45:46,290 --> 01:45:48,392 Everyone in the world. 2010 01:45:49,893 --> 01:45:52,962 We'd be talking about the most tectonic shift in the status quo since... 2011 01:45:52,963 --> 01:45:54,364 Ever. 2012 01:45:54,365 --> 01:45:57,566 I don't know why you've always been interested in my adoption history, 2013 01:45:57,567 --> 01:46:01,603 but you said it's not like someone looked at me and gave me back. 2014 01:46:01,604 --> 01:46:03,039 But that is what happened. 2015 01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,576 And you're telling me you have the right computer. 2016 01:46:06,677 --> 01:46:08,977 It's called Macintosh. 2017 01:46:08,978 --> 01:46:11,713 A lawyer couple adopted me first, 2018 01:46:11,714 --> 01:46:14,216 then gave me back after a month. 2019 01:46:14,217 --> 01:46:16,387 They changed their mind. 2020 01:46:17,987 --> 01:46:20,690 Then my parents adopted me. 2021 01:46:20,691 --> 01:46:23,258 My biological mother had stipulated that whoever took me 2022 01:46:23,259 --> 01:46:26,795 had to be college-educated, wealthy and Catholic. 2023 01:46:26,796 --> 01:46:29,331 Paul and Clara Jobs were none of those things, 2024 01:46:29,332 --> 01:46:33,768 so my biological mother wouldn't sign the adoption papers. 2025 01:46:33,769 --> 01:46:35,070 What happened? 2026 01:46:35,071 --> 01:46:38,607 There was a legal battle that went on for a while. 2027 01:46:38,608 --> 01:46:41,877 My mother said she refused to love me for the first year. 2028 01:46:41,878 --> 01:46:43,812 You know, in case they had to give me back. 2029 01:46:43,813 --> 01:46:46,816 You can't refuse to love someone, Steve. 2030 01:46:46,817 --> 01:46:49,685 Yeah, it turns out you can. 2031 01:46:49,686 --> 01:46:53,822 What the hell can a one-month-old do that's so bad his parents give him back? 2032 01:46:53,823 --> 01:46:56,758 Nothing. There's nothing a one-month-old can do... 2033 01:46:56,759 --> 01:47:00,029 Have you ever thought about trying to find your biological father? 2034 01:47:00,030 --> 01:47:01,731 I've met my biological father. 2035 01:47:01,732 --> 01:47:03,600 For that matter, so have you. 2036 01:47:06,236 --> 01:47:08,070 It's called Macintosh. 2037 01:47:08,071 --> 01:47:10,740 - Mr. Steve Jobs. - Jandali. 2038 01:47:10,741 --> 01:47:12,208 Say hello to John Sculley. 2039 01:47:12,209 --> 01:47:15,777 Jandali owns the place, and John's the CEO of Pepsi, 2040 01:47:15,778 --> 01:47:19,382 but I'm trying to get him to move to Cupertino, put a dent in the universe. 2041 01:47:19,383 --> 01:47:21,182 You eat vegan as well? 2042 01:47:21,183 --> 01:47:22,785 You're kidding me. 2043 01:47:22,786 --> 01:47:24,387 No, I'll eat anything. 2044 01:47:24,388 --> 01:47:28,356 Why don't you start off with the Mediterranean lettuce salad with purslane, mint... 2045 01:47:28,357 --> 01:47:32,261 My sister found him. 2046 01:47:32,262 --> 01:47:34,664 - Does he know? - No. In fact, he bragged to Mona 2047 01:47:34,665 --> 01:47:36,999 that Steve Jobs comes in the restaurant all the time. 2048 01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,935 - You don't want to... - No. 2049 01:47:39,936 --> 01:47:42,840 Don't you think you should talk to him? 2050 01:47:44,206 --> 01:47:47,209 He'd probably find a reason to sue me. 2051 01:47:47,210 --> 01:47:49,712 Oh, Steve... 2052 01:47:49,713 --> 01:47:52,815 John, if you're here about your legacy, 2053 01:47:52,816 --> 01:47:54,450 you need to form a line behind Wozniak. 2054 01:47:54,451 --> 01:47:56,718 Wozniak's gonna be fine. 2055 01:47:56,719 --> 01:47:59,922 I'm the guy who fired Steve Jobs. 2056 01:47:59,923 --> 01:48:03,058 Rich, college-educated and Catholic. 2057 01:48:03,059 --> 01:48:07,330 Steve? It's time. 2058 01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:13,570 I've gotta go. 2059 01:48:15,772 --> 01:48:19,376 Did I do this? Screw it up? 2060 01:48:22,245 --> 01:48:24,381 Let's let it go now. 2061 01:48:25,848 --> 01:48:27,750 Has to be time. 2062 01:48:32,222 --> 01:48:34,758 Come be our CEO. 2063 01:48:35,991 --> 01:48:37,894 Yeah. Okay. 2064 01:48:46,335 --> 01:48:49,871 It was the stylus, John. 2065 01:48:49,872 --> 01:48:53,942 - What? - I killed the Newton because of the stylus. 2066 01:48:53,943 --> 01:48:57,781 If you're holding a stylus, you can't use the other five that are attached to your wrist. 2067 01:49:01,284 --> 01:49:03,487 Things we could have done together. 2068 01:49:08,825 --> 01:49:11,394 God, the things we could've done. 2069 01:49:27,777 --> 01:49:29,244 I'm paying your tuition. 2070 01:49:29,245 --> 01:49:31,446 Are you crazy? Of course I'm paying your tuition. 2071 01:49:31,447 --> 01:49:34,984 I must have misunderstood you when you said you weren't paying my tuition. 2072 01:49:34,985 --> 01:49:37,453 You and your mom selling the house was a hostile thing to do. 2073 01:49:37,454 --> 01:49:39,254 She needed the money. 2074 01:49:39,255 --> 01:49:41,056 She always needs the money. 2075 01:49:41,057 --> 01:49:45,127 She needs a doctor. She has a sinus infection. 2076 01:49:45,128 --> 01:49:48,998 She's had the same sinus infection since 1988. 2077 01:49:48,999 --> 01:49:52,200 I'm gonna take care of my mother. I'm sorry if that angers you. 2078 01:49:52,201 --> 01:49:54,069 It does anger me, because you're a kid 2079 01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:56,405 and it's not your job to take care of your mother. 2080 01:49:56,406 --> 01:49:58,440 Is that how yours died? 2081 01:49:58,441 --> 01:50:02,477 Guys, step away, please, and give them some room. 2082 01:50:02,478 --> 01:50:05,481 When your mom is 90 and can't feed herself, 2083 01:50:05,482 --> 01:50:06,816 you can take care of her. 2084 01:50:06,817 --> 01:50:12,320 But right now, she's 45, perfectly healthy and can't feed herself. 2085 01:50:12,321 --> 01:50:15,524 You're supposed to work hard at school and be 19, and that's it. 2086 01:50:15,525 --> 01:50:18,494 - I'll take care of your mother. - Keep up the good work. 2087 01:50:18,495 --> 01:50:21,096 - What the hell do you want from me? - I was sent for. 2088 01:50:21,097 --> 01:50:23,833 I bought her a house for $400,000. 2089 01:50:23,834 --> 01:50:25,567 It's worth twice that much today. 2090 01:50:25,568 --> 01:50:28,036 She sold it for two magic rocks and a bowl of soup. 2091 01:50:28,037 --> 01:50:29,471 It was her house. 2092 01:50:29,472 --> 01:50:31,272 She used that money to travel through Europe. 2093 01:50:31,273 --> 01:50:33,107 Money which you make her beg for. 2094 01:50:33,108 --> 01:50:35,244 - Steve... - Don't even start with that. 2095 01:50:35,245 --> 01:50:37,279 Going to Andy and asking for the money? 2096 01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,114 That was so off-the-charts over the line... 2097 01:50:39,115 --> 01:50:42,383 I did not do that. Andy came to me. 2098 01:50:42,384 --> 01:50:45,420 Everybody have an opinion on this? 2099 01:50:45,421 --> 01:50:48,958 I'm sorry, guys. In 30 seconds, you're going to be late. 2100 01:50:48,959 --> 01:50:52,861 She spends the money on antiques and then sells them for a fraction of what she paid, 2101 01:50:52,862 --> 01:50:55,063 and she does it with money I gave to her for you. 2102 01:50:55,064 --> 01:50:56,464 Steve... 2103 01:50:56,465 --> 01:50:58,366 You came to me hysterical when you were 13, 2104 01:50:58,367 --> 01:51:00,268 - asking if you could live with me... - I was not hysterical. 2105 01:51:00,269 --> 01:51:02,003 Because your mom was screaming at you every day. 2106 01:51:02,004 --> 01:51:04,138 Thirteen was the second time I asked you. 2107 01:51:04,139 --> 01:51:05,874 The stress of her life as a spiritual healer. 2108 01:51:05,875 --> 01:51:10,012 I don't believe I said you're a bad guy. But if I did, I'm sorry. 2109 01:51:13,148 --> 01:51:15,618 Hey. Something happened to you at school, 2110 01:51:15,619 --> 01:51:21,022 some first semester core class that all freshmen are required to take... 2111 01:51:21,023 --> 01:51:23,892 - I read Time. - What? 2112 01:51:23,893 --> 01:51:27,495 I have Internet access at school. I read an old copy of Time, 2113 01:51:27,496 --> 01:51:31,299 and I asked my mom some questions about my family history. 2114 01:51:31,300 --> 01:51:33,067 That was... 2115 01:51:33,068 --> 01:51:35,169 Time wrote a mangled piece of journal. 2116 01:51:35,170 --> 01:51:36,571 You were never supposed to read that. 2117 01:51:36,572 --> 01:51:39,074 I had two different Harvard statisticians 2118 01:51:39,075 --> 01:51:41,677 try to reverse-engineer the equation that you came up with 2119 01:51:41,678 --> 01:51:45,446 to prove that 28% of American men could be my father. 2120 01:51:45,447 --> 01:51:46,848 Honey, I... 2121 01:51:46,849 --> 01:51:50,652 You know, my mother might be a troubled woman, but what's your excuse? 2122 01:51:50,653 --> 01:51:54,255 That's why I'm not impressed with your story, Dad. 2123 01:51:54,256 --> 01:51:56,325 It's that you knew what I was going through, 2124 01:51:56,326 --> 01:51:58,294 and you didn't do anything about it, 2125 01:51:58,295 --> 01:52:02,032 and that makes you an unconscionable coward. 2126 01:52:03,599 --> 01:52:05,935 And not for nothing, but "think" is a verb, all right, 2127 01:52:05,936 --> 01:52:07,335 making "different" an adverb. 2128 01:52:07,336 --> 01:52:09,304 You're asking people to think differently. 2129 01:52:09,305 --> 01:52:11,106 And you can talk about the Bauhaus movement 2130 01:52:11,107 --> 01:52:13,107 and Braun and "Simplicity is sophistication" 2131 01:52:13,108 --> 01:52:16,445 and Issey Miyake uniforms and Bob Dylan lyrics all you want, 2132 01:52:16,446 --> 01:52:21,151 but that thing looks like Judy Jetson's Easy-Bake oven. 2133 01:52:40,370 --> 01:52:41,536 Hey. 2134 01:52:41,537 --> 01:52:44,138 You're gonna start late. 2135 01:52:44,139 --> 01:52:46,342 - You know what Lisa stood for? - What? 2136 01:52:46,343 --> 01:52:48,544 The computer. The Lisa. You know what it stood for? 2137 01:52:48,545 --> 01:52:51,679 I'm sorry I said that about the iMac. It's not what I really think. 2138 01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:55,683 Behind my back, at the office, you know what it stood for? 2139 01:52:55,684 --> 01:52:59,253 Local Integrated System Architecture. I was five. 2140 01:52:59,254 --> 01:53:01,957 - Why couldn't you just lie? - I did. 2141 01:53:02,992 --> 01:53:05,227 Of course it was named after you. 2142 01:53:05,228 --> 01:53:10,132 Local Integrated System Architecture doesn't even mean anything. 2143 01:53:10,133 --> 01:53:13,068 Why'd you say it wasn't all those years? 2144 01:53:15,071 --> 01:53:16,973 I honestly don't know. 2145 01:53:19,275 --> 01:53:21,745 Why'd you say you weren't my father? 2146 01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,150 I'm poorly made. 2147 01:53:34,656 --> 01:53:38,194 - It's after 9:00. You're gonna be late. - I don't care. 2148 01:53:43,366 --> 01:53:45,467 - You're writing for the Crimson. - What? 2149 01:53:45,468 --> 01:53:47,535 The Apple chapter of the Harvard Alumni Association 2150 01:53:47,536 --> 01:53:49,370 tells me you're writing for the Crimson. 2151 01:53:49,371 --> 01:53:53,042 Oh. Yeah, a little bit. Essays. 2152 01:53:53,043 --> 01:53:55,811 - I'd like to read one. - Sure. 2153 01:53:55,812 --> 01:53:58,280 No, I mean now. I'd like to read one of your essays now. 2154 01:53:58,281 --> 01:54:00,717 Come on. You've got to go on stage. 2155 01:54:02,317 --> 01:54:05,320 The iMac will not be launched until you give me one of your essays, 2156 01:54:05,321 --> 01:54:08,992 so the world is waiting for you. 2157 01:54:15,598 --> 01:54:18,633 I'm really sorry, guys. 2158 01:54:18,634 --> 01:54:20,202 Good luck. 2159 01:54:33,148 --> 01:54:34,716 I'm gonna put music in your pocket. 2160 01:54:34,717 --> 01:54:36,820 What? 2161 01:54:38,620 --> 01:54:42,790 Hundred songs. A thousand songs. 500 songs. 2162 01:54:42,791 --> 01:54:47,161 Somewhere between 500 and a thousand songs right in your pocket, 2163 01:54:47,162 --> 01:54:50,499 'cause I can't stand looking at that inexplicable Walkman anymore. 2164 01:54:50,500 --> 01:54:52,767 You're carrying around a brick playing cassette tape. 2165 01:54:52,768 --> 01:54:54,636 We're not savages. 2166 01:54:54,637 --> 01:54:57,806 So I'm gonna put a thousand songs in your pocket. 2167 01:54:57,807 --> 01:55:00,441 - You can do that? - Mm-hmm. 2168 01:55:00,442 --> 01:55:03,544 ♪ We'd get soaked right through ♪ 2169 01:55:03,545 --> 01:55:09,418 ♪ We used to tell them I was staying at yours ♪ 2170 01:55:09,419 --> 01:55:11,253 ♪ Sheltered in our own world ♪ 2171 01:55:11,254 --> 01:55:13,223 You want to watch from backstage? 2172 01:55:14,723 --> 01:55:16,892 Okay. 2173 01:55:28,271 --> 01:55:32,807 ♪ We grew up at midnight ♪ 2174 01:55:32,808 --> 01:55:33,808 Go cue one. 2175 01:55:33,809 --> 01:55:37,346 ♪ We were only kids then ♪ 2176 01:55:42,152 --> 01:55:44,887 ♪ Loving woman, loving man ♪ 2177 01:55:44,888 --> 01:55:49,059 ♪ Here for you, doing the best we can ♪ 2178 01:55:51,361 --> 01:55:54,530 ♪ Hard to figure, hard to bear ♪ 2179 01:55:54,531 --> 01:55:58,201 ♪ Hard to think knowing how much you care ♪ 2180 01:55:59,302 --> 01:56:03,804 ♪ It's the strangest thing through thick and thin ♪ 2181 01:56:03,805 --> 01:56:07,943 ♪ All this time kept the promise you made ♪ 2182 01:56:09,679 --> 01:56:12,947 ♪ If you're telling, I'll be told ♪ 2183 01:56:12,948 --> 01:56:17,853 ♪ I'll come running and be there as soon as I can ♪ 2184 01:56:20,822 --> 01:56:27,596 ♪ Outside of the window, I was stuck on you ♪ 2185 01:56:27,597 --> 01:56:30,464 ♪ We were only kids then ♪ 2186 01:56:30,465 --> 01:56:32,234 ♪ I was staying at yours ♪ 2187 01:56:32,235 --> 01:56:34,970 You remember that painting you did on the original Mac? 2188 01:56:37,639 --> 01:56:39,308 I do. 2189 01:56:40,742 --> 01:56:43,245 Ladies and gentlemen, 2190 01:56:44,847 --> 01:56:46,983 Steve Jobs. 2191 01:57:05,500 --> 01:57:10,272 ♪ We grew up at midnight ♪ 2192 01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:15,277 ♪ We were only kids then ♪ 2193 01:57:17,780 --> 01:57:24,253 ♪ We grew up at midnight ♪ 2194 01:57:24,254 --> 01:57:27,255 ♪ We were only kids then ♪ 2195 01:57:27,256 --> 01:57:28,389 Woz. 2196 01:57:28,390 --> 01:57:31,860 ♪ But that night we knew ♪ 2197 01:57:31,861 --> 01:57:33,430 Whoo! 2198 01:58:10,266 --> 01:58:15,066 Sync and corrections by explosiveskull BluRay resync by GoldenBeard www.addic7ed.com 2199 01:58:24,347 --> 01:58:28,749 ♪ 'Twas in another lifetime, one of toil and blood ♪ 2200 01:58:28,750 --> 01:58:33,321 ♪ When blackness was a virtue, the road was full of mud ♪ 2201 01:58:33,322 --> 01:58:37,592 ♪ I came in from the wilderness, a creature void of form ♪ 2202 01:58:37,593 --> 01:58:42,232 ♪ "Come in," she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm" ♪ 2203 01:58:50,339 --> 01:58:54,709 ♪ And if I pass this way again, you can rest assured ♪ 2204 01:58:54,710 --> 01:58:56,544 ♪ I'll always do my best for her ♪ 2205 01:58:56,545 --> 01:58:58,813 ♪ On that, I give my word ♪ 2206 01:58:58,814 --> 01:59:00,581 ♪ In a world of steel-eyed death ♪ 2207 01:59:00,582 --> 01:59:03,352 ♪ And men who are fighting to be warm ♪ 2208 01:59:03,353 --> 01:59:08,124 ♪ "Come in," she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm" ♪ 2209 01:59:12,061 --> 01:59:14,463 ♪ Not a word was spoke between us ♪ 2210 01:59:14,464 --> 01:59:17,365 ♪ There was little risk involved ♪ 2211 01:59:17,366 --> 01:59:21,636 ♪ Everything up to that point had been left unresolved ♪ 2212 01:59:21,637 --> 01:59:25,440 ♪ Try imagining a place where it's always safe and warm ♪ 2213 01:59:25,441 --> 01:59:30,280 ♪ "Come in," she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm" ♪ 2214 01:59:38,987 --> 01:59:41,690 ♪ I was burned out from exhaustion ♪ 2215 01:59:41,691 --> 01:59:44,025 ♪ Buried in the hail ♪ 2216 01:59:44,026 --> 01:59:48,396 ♪ Poisoned in the bushes and blown out on the trail ♪ 2217 01:59:48,397 --> 01:59:52,534 ♪ Hunted like a crocodile, ravaged in the corn ♪ 2218 01:59:52,535 --> 01:59:57,173 ♪ "Come in," she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm" ♪ 2219 02:00:05,013 --> 02:00:09,084 ♪ Suddenly I turned around and she was standing there ♪ 2220 02:00:09,085 --> 02:00:13,554 ♪ With silver bracelets on her wrists and flowers in her hair ♪ 2221 02:00:13,555 --> 02:00:15,723 ♪ She walked up to me so gracefully ♪ 2222 02:00:15,724 --> 02:00:17,825 ♪ And took my crown of thorns ♪ 2223 02:00:17,826 --> 02:00:22,531 ♪ "Come in," she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm" ♪ 2224 02:00:30,106 --> 02:00:32,473 ♪ Now there's a wall between us ♪ 2225 02:00:32,474 --> 02:00:34,642 ♪ Something there's been lost ♪ 2226 02:00:34,643 --> 02:00:38,980 ♪ I took too much for granted, I got my signals crossed ♪ 2227 02:00:38,981 --> 02:00:43,485 ♪ Just to think that it all began on an uneventful morn ♪ 2228 02:00:43,486 --> 02:00:48,224 ♪ "Come in," she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm" ♪ 2229 02:00:55,231 --> 02:00:57,731 ♪ Well, the deputy walks on hard nails ♪ 2230 02:00:57,732 --> 02:01:00,035 ♪ And the preacher rides a mount ♪ 2231 02:01:00,036 --> 02:01:01,969 ♪ But nothing really matters much ♪ 2232 02:01:01,970 --> 02:01:04,071 ♪ It's doom alone that counts ♪ 2233 02:01:04,072 --> 02:01:08,543 ♪ And the one-eyed undertaker, he blows a futile horn ♪ 2234 02:01:08,544 --> 02:01:13,383 ♪ "Come in," she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm" ♪ 2235 02:01:21,156 --> 02:01:25,660 ♪ I've heard newborn babies wailing like a mourning dove ♪ 2236 02:01:25,661 --> 02:01:29,763 ♪ And old men with broken teeth stranded without love ♪ 2237 02:01:29,764 --> 02:01:31,700 ♪ Do I understand your question, man? ♪ 2238 02:01:31,701 --> 02:01:34,169 ♪ Is it hopeless and forlorn? ♪ 2239 02:01:34,170 --> 02:01:38,707 ♪ "Come in," she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm" ♪