- His temper leaves
you quaking,
and she told
her lawyers...
- I'm physically shaking.
- It's "Watch What
Happens Live"
with Lisa Barlow
and Jeff Lewis now.
[cheers and applause]
* Andy Cohen's
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Hey, everybody, welcome
to "Watch What Happens Live."
I'm your host, Andy Cohen,
in the Bravo Clubhouse,
with two guests whose
bond is even stronger
than the nail glue
and eyeballs
that kept them from being here
together last time.
Google it! Please welcome
my first guest,
Real Housewife of
Salt Lake City,
Lisa Barlow!
Hi, Lisa!
[cheering and applause]
Hey, baby gorgeous!
And speaking of salty,
my next guest never minces words
as the host
of "Jeff Lewis Live"
Mondays through
Fridays at noon
on Radio Andy SiriusXM,
channel 102.
Give it up for our
old friend Jeff Lewis!
[cheers and applause]
So good to see you.
Jeff, you're a huge
Lisa Barlow fan, aren't you?
- Huge.
- Yes.
- Hugely so. Like,
I'm not just saying that.
I actually DM'd her
after the last reunion.
- He did.
- And I said,
"These girls are coming
after you. You did great."
I was a little pissed, though,
that-that Meredith,
your good friend, didn't--
didn't defend you at all.
At all.
- That would have been nice
if she-she-she--
she engaged.
- I mean, I like
Meredith, though.
- Over at the bar, uh,
if you can't get tickets
to his holiday spectacular,
don't blame the supply chain.
Blame yourself.
He just added one more show
to his sold-out run
of Murray Hill's
"A Murray Little Christmas"
at Joe's Pub
this Saturday at 4:00!
Say hi to Murray Hill!
Murray!
- Showbiz! Showbiz!
- Showbiz!
- Mr. Showbiz!
Drinking game alert--
My guests won't know it.
Any time you hear anyone
say this word,
if you're 21 or over,
in honor of Lisa saying
Whitney and Heather count
Lisa Barlows instead of sheep,
drink until you see one Lisa,
then two Lisas,
and so on and so on.
Programming note--
our last show of 2021
is just one week away.
We're gonna be ringing
the "12 Doorbells of Christmas."
You're gonna
want to tune in
to see who's gonna walk
through the secret door.
It's gonna be epic, everybody.
[cheers and applause]
Um, I want to get into
"Salt Lake City."
Um, a lot of questions
wanting to know, um--
Mary made a very
insensitive comment--
- Very.
- About Mexicans to you.
People want to know why
you didn't call her on it.
What-what was going
through your mind? Thoughts?
- I was shocked, actually.
- Okay.
- Like, I was to-totally
taken aback in the moment.
I wish I had called her out
right in the moment.
I-- Like, you can see
the look on my face.
I'm like, oh, my gosh.
But I do address it with Mary.
- Yes, it's coming up
in a few weeks.
- It does get addressed.
- Yes, it does.
Um, do you regret,
uh, or--
No, let me stay on this.
Uh, "Did you feel it was
sneaky of Whitney
"to go behind your back
and call Cameron on her own,"
Kara T. said, "and what
was your reaction
"to conversations
she had about you
"with Heather and Jenny
at the photo shoot?"
- Okay, so this is
a two-part question.
So I did think
it was very sneaky
for her to call Cameron
behind my back.
She has no relationship
with Cameron.
She did not know Cameron.
- Okay.
- And I thought that was
very sneaky.
- Okay, conversation
with Heather and Jenny
at her photo shoot?
Reaction?
- Um, sounds like she has
an axe to grind,
and she wants to use
my friend to do it.
- Um, what were
both of your reactions
to Jen's sitdown
with Heather tonight?
- Uh, well,
I-I strongly believe
that people are innocent
until proven guilty,
although, you know, I-I--
you know, she's just--
For me as a viewer,
she's Shah-mazing.
I love her.
I just love her.
She is good TV.
- Yes.
- She's great TV.
- Guilty or not guilty.
- She showed up
looking fabulous.
I loved her hair.
I loved her jacket.
- Um, what did you think
of what she had to say?
- The conversation--
- Yes.
- The conversation, um,
was interesting.
- Is this thing on?
- She looked great.
- I think-- with
the conversation,
I thought that, um,
I was a little surprised
by some of the things
that Jen said,
and I was also surprised
by some of the things
Heather said.
I don't think Heather
took accountability
for some of the things
she said in Vail,
and I don't think Jen
was taking full accountability
for her business
relationship either.
- With Stu. With Stu.
- With Stu.
- Uh, do you regret not picking
up her phone call
in tonight's episode?
- No, I don't.
I think that was
the right thing to do.
I-- You know, Jen--
One thing--
I like to be honest
in my friendships,
and it would have been
dishonest of me
to accept the phone call
and meet with her.
- Your reaction to her
talking about her
lack of support
from her friends
and family.
- Honestly, it real-- it real--
It struck a chord with me,
because, uh, I remem--
I thought of Todd Chrisley
when Todd Chrisley
went through something,
and he was always
a good friend to me.
It was surprising to me how many
people went dark on him.
How many celebrities
went dark on him.
Turned out, everything
that was happening,
he was cleared of,
but I was, like, one of the--
He said, "You are one
of two people
"that have actually
reached out to us."
- Wow.
- So I-I--
And he ended up
being innocent.
He ended up being innocent.
- Mm-hmm.
- I did end up meeting
with Jen,
and we had a great
conversation,
and I have been there for--
with Jen
throughout this whole
experience.
Like, it's up to Jen
to return my phone calls.
I definitely
reach out to Jen.
- Well, we're clearly all still
talking about Jen's, uh,
sitdown with Heather
at the steak house.
Uh, but since Jen's
Housewives take--
Since Jeff's Housewives takes
are like throwing
red meat to the crowd,
uh, we're gonna
get into it.
Uh, in your heart of hearts,
do you believe Mary
and her congregation
believe that
she is God?
- I do believe they--
they think
she's some sort of deity
or prophet, yes.
Absolutely.
- Um, and general thoughts
on what-- on Jen's--
on the case against Jen
and Stuart turning
on her?
- I mean, look, I've had
assistants turn on me.
Um, I think
it's all Stuart.
I think it's
all Stuart's fault.
I think Stuart's guilty.
- Really?
- Yeah.
- Uh, as a renovation god,
thoughts on Mary's
eclectic home decor?
- I mean, look, I think
that house is a--
is a gut renovation,
but she-- but she's a--
but she is a major hoarder.
Major hoarder.
- Um, was it insane for Whiney
to put her full savings
into the Whitney Rose
rebrand?
- I don't know if that's
the best investment.
I honestly personally
would--
would rather give the money
to Mary's church.
- Uh, who do you think is behind
the threatening texts
a bunch of the women
have received?
- You really want to know?
- Yeah.
- I think you do it
from a burner phone.
[laughing]
- You're an asshole.
Uh, with all
the accusations flying,
should the "Salt Lake City"
ladies
be afraid of both Jen
and Mary?
- Yeah, or be afraid of Stuart.
I'm afraid of Stuart.
- Um, "Orange County"--
Do you think your buddy Shannon
purposefully knew
what she was doing
by informing, um,
Emily and, uh,
and the gang
about Nicole suing
Terry Dubrow years ago?
- So I'm privy
to a lot of that,
because Shannon and I
are close.
We just had dinner
last Monday.
And I absolutely believe
that she did not know.
She was trying to piece
the whole thing together
as she was finding out
the information.
This girl had
a different name.
You know, this--
she has a different--
a married name now.
She knew her when
she had her maiden name,
and she also knew her,
like, 13 years ago.
- Thoughts when
you found out
Heather was coming back
to your show
and thoughts on, uh,
the show,
and thoughts on so far
Heather on the show.
- Well, look,
I've said this before.
I personally do not care
for Heather Dubrow.
But I think that "OC" needs--
needed a villain,
and, you know, she's the--
- You think she's the villain?
- I think she's
the Cruella de Vil
of Orange County.
Are you ----ing kidding me?
Yeah. No. Sorry.
- Um, all right, which newbie
are you feeling more thus far?
Noella or Dr. Jen?
- I think Noella's in--
very interesting.
- All right.
Thank you very much,
Jeff Lewis.
Tonight, uh, Lisa
declined Jen's call
from her new number,
but if I asked her to screen
her own behavior lately,
would she double down
or say "New Lisa. Who dis?"
Let's find out
with "Defend! Your! Character!
Round 2."
Lisa, I'm gonna remind you
of some moments
where the women questioned
your motivation.
You'll explain why each
isn't as bad as it looks.
Why reveal to the group that
Cameron mortgaged his house
in order to donate $300,000
to Mary's church
without Mary
in attendance?
- Mary-- er, Meredith
asked for a fact.
- Okay. Uh, why tell Mary
about Whitney
questioning your church
but leave out
that you told the group
about Cameron mortgaging
his home?
- Oh, we covered that.
- We did.
- We covered that.
Mary made it very clear, too,
when Heather thought
she was dropping a bomb
on the way out
by saying that,
Mary said, "Oh, yeah,
we talked about that."
We talked about mo--
everything.
Mary and I talked
about everything.
- Was it at all
hypocritical of you
to accept
Mary's Chanel clutch
after having engaged in talk
about her church moments before?
- I-It appears that way,
but since we're
defending my character,
Mary promised
everyone gifts
at, um, cooking class
and was like,
"You guys are all
gonna get a gift."
Those were allegedly the gifts
from cooking class.
She picked them
out of her closet
as we were exiting
her room,
handed me the clutch,
and I'm like,
"You should really give
it to Whitney. She won."
And she goes,
"No, this is for you.
"I have something else
for Whitney,
"And I'll give that
to her later."
- Do you really believe Heather
and Whitney go to bed
counting Lisa Barlows
in their heads?
- One hundred percent,
and in-in fact, Meredith--
er, not Meredith.
Heather was wearing
a pair of pajamas
I wore the year before.
- It's honestly how
I put my beau to bed now.
We count-- We count
Lisa Barlows.
- Yes. Yes.
One hundred percent.
- Um, who in the group
specifically
is a "weak, little,
effing sheep"?
- Um, well, in the--
in that moment,
it was Heather and Whitney,
because they could have just sat
there and listened to Mary,
and they would have
heard everything,
but they just wanted to
get out and blame me.
- Bad weather?
- Bad weather.
- Um, you claimed your
friendship with Jen
was one-sided.
Why were you a better friend
to Jen than she was to you?
- Um, you know, with my
conversations with Jen,
mostly the revolve
around Jen.
I'm a great friend to her,
and I feel like, um,
there were some things
that happened before--
at my kids' photo shoot
and after
that were very
upsetting to me,
and, um, we just needed
to address it.
- Do you agree
with Heather
that you're guilty
of muddying up the water
and then stepping away
as if you had no involvement?
- No, I actually think Bad
Weather's very good at that.
- Do you really believe
your "because" observation
in the cryptic text messages
the ladies received
was enough to fully
incriminate Jen?
- No, and I didn't
incriminate Jen.
I just said it
was questionable
that we were all getting
those messages.
I actually thought
Heather was the one
sending them at first.
- Really?
- And then when
we had conversations,
I had a conversation
with Meredith,
and then that's when
I was like,
"Well, maybe it's
from Jen."
- Why did you feel the need
to call six of your lawyers,
uh, after the feds
showed up looking for Jen?
- Because I can.
- Okay.
- Yeah.
- Can you defend
why you went to lunch
with Cameron on camera
to discuss all
the harmful ways
Mary's church had hurt him
in the past?
- So Cameron and I have been
friends for over five years.
The reason I know Mary
is through Cameron,
and I like facts,
so for me,
it was like, you know,
there's all these
rumors swirling.
I like to deal in facts.
I don't Google Mary.
I get DM'd a lot of things,
so I thought it was important
to sit down with him
and ask him
his real feelings
so he could speak
for himself.
- Jeff was asking you
before the show
if the Cameron thing
was a setup, and you said--
- It looks set up to me.
- Right.
It looks set up to you.
- Yeah, it does.
It looks set up,
but it's not.
Cameron was on the board
of Utah Foster Care.
If you go to
my Instagram page,
I did am amazing tribute
to Cameron after he passed.
He was involved in
so much stuff in Utah.
He was very well known
in the tech industry.
Government officials spoke
at his memorial.
He was very well known
and very well respected.
I don't like anyone speaking
negatively about Cameron.
- They weren't speaking
negatively about Cameron.
They were wondering
if it was set up.
- It was not set up.
- You said that Meredith was
asking all the questions
to Cameron.
- Yeah. Sorry. I went
off on a tangent.
I'm very sensitive
with Cameron,
but when Meredith was
asking him the questions--
- Yes.
- So if you look--
If you look at
what happened that day,
I introduced them.
I know Mary's--
Mary and Cameron I keep
very separate, so--
- Okay. All right, coming up,
more with Lisa and Jeff.
Here's who's coming
on the show this week.
We will be right back.
[cheers and applause]
* Watch What
Happens Live *
* Watch What Happens Live *
Welcome back to
"Watch What Happens Live."
I'm Andy Cohen
in the Bravo Clubhouse
with one man who gets
every Bravo reference
and a woman with enough lawyers
to fill a family van.
Say hi to Lisa Barlow
and Jeff Lewis!
Listen to "Jeff Lewis Live"
Monday through Friday
on Radio Andy SiriusXM
channel 102.
Over at the bar,
he is Mr. Showbiz,
Murray Hill!
You can see Murray's new show
"Somebody Somewhere"
on HBO and HBO Max
on January 16th
at 10:30 PM.
Drinking game reminder--
any time you hear this word,
drink a full six pack,
one beer for each
of Lisa's lawyers.
I gotta tell
you something.
Thanksgiving day was
Murray's 50th birthday.
You were over at our friend
John Hickey's house
for Thanksgiving dinner.
- I was.
It was like the Gay Pride
Parade at one table.
- And you found--
- A lot of turkeys.
- Yes, it was. I mean,
Sarah Jessica was there.
All-- it was
a great table.
You find out that--
- At 11-- 11:30 that night,
I found out that, uh,
my building
and the three buildings
next to it were on fire
back in Brooklyn.
- You watched your home
of 20-plus years
burn to the ground
on your 50th birthday.
- And now I'm here.
I'm doin' great.
- Yeah. No, but
it's incredible.
And there's a GoFundMe up for
everyone in the building, right?
- Yeah, all the tenants
were displaced,
and New York
has really come together.
It's like a real
Christmas miracle.
People have been
giving so much.
So if you can give, uh,
the GoFundMe, uh, link
is on my Instagram @MurrayHill.
- We love you, Murray Hill.
- I love you, too.
- I'm so sorry
that happened.
- And thank you, New York.
Thank you, everybody.
- Yes. I want to go
to our virtual audience.
Here's Stephanie
from Chattanooga
with a question for Lisa.
- Do you think that Meredith
didn't have your back
on the issues
with Mary at first
because you didn't have
her back with Jen
earlier in the season?
- That's a great question.
- And--
- That's a great question.
- And where do you
stand today?
- Um, so I feel
like, um...
Let me think how
I want to say this.
You know, Meredith and I have
been friends for a long time.
I wish she had
my back more.
I did have her back
on the issues with Jen.
Um, I--
My whole goal
was to have peace
with Jen and Meredith.
I like them both,
and I really wanted them
to get along
like they did
in the beginning,
and on the issues
with Mary,
I think it's a really
complicated situation there.
And, um, I wish
she had more understanding
for me when I was
explaining, you know,
what I was
explaining to her.
I definitely wish she had
my back a little more.
Now Blair has a question
for Jeff, all the way
from Glasgow,
Scotland, wow!
- Yes!
- Wow, you had to go that far
to get a question.
- Hi, Jeff.
[laughing]
So, Jeff, have you
and Vicki Gunvalson
continued to improve
your friendship
after hashing out your problems
on your radio show, or--
and do you think that
you can do the same
with Heather Dubrow?
- Oh, I love your accent!
I love it that that's
what's on your mind
in Scotland. Jeff?
[laughing]
- Uh, Vicki and I
have been texting.
I, uh, texted her
Thanksgiving weekend,
we-we texted
the entire weekend.
We're gonna get
together for dinner.
Heather Dubrow, it is never
gonna ---ing happen, sorry.
[laughing]
But, I just--
only because Vicki is a good--
Vicki is a good person.
Heather Dubrow
is not.
- Wow.
- Is not.
Only because I've witnessed
how she treated people,
and I will never, ever--
I'll never forget.
I'll never forgive.
- Could someone argue
that you--
you know,
people think you
mistreated Jenny.
- That I mistreated Jenny?
- Yes, we got
a lot of questions.
- Well, I disagree.
- Okay.
- I mean, we-- that's a whole
'nother show, but I disagree.
- Yes, yes, yes.
[laughing]
When the other--
- I have regrets.
I do have regrets.
- You do.
- Of how I handled things.
- Yeah.
- But, yeah.
- Do you-- another big
question we got for you,
on a lighter note,
when are you coming back to TV?
- Uh, probably spring
of next year.
I have a new show
with Amazon Imdb.
- And have you
started shooting?
- We started shooting,
and it's a good sign,
because they initially
picked us up for 8 episodes,
and now they
added two more.
- That's great!
- So I thought,
"Okay, good, you're happy."
- Well, because people--
when Jeff starts
shooting something,
the cameras never
stop rolling, right?
- That's-- that's kinda
what happened, yeah, yeah.
- Yes, good!
- It's a great show.
It'll be really fun.
- Uh...
[cheering and applause]
- I love this!
- Whitney compared
Lisa's communication style
to dropping
little bread crumbs,
but when Lisa
loves something,
it feels more like she's
beating you over the head
with a baguette.
[laughing]
Case in point.
- Gosh, I love it!
I love that!
I love that.
I love that!
I love it!
I love this.
I love this! Cheers!
[chuckling]
- All right,
so it is time
to play...
I'm gonna run through
various items
that define 2021.
Jeff will guess
if Lisa loves each thing,
and then Lisa,
you will either say
"I love that,"
or "I don't love that."
Okay, do you love Whitney
dropping that cake
over and over?
Jeff, does she love it?
- She loves it.
- I don't.
- Oh! Do you love
the $2,000 Chanel clutch
Mary gifted her?
- She loves it.
- I did love it.
[laughing]
- Uh, does she love
Adele's new album "30," Jeff?
- She loves it.
- Loves it.
- Okay.
Does she love
Mint Milanos, Jeff?
- She loves it!
- I do love it!
- Okay.
[laughing]
Does she love Meredith
in the bathtub
while Jen
was being arrested?
- She does-- Jeff and Lisa
don't love that.
- Don't love that.
Don't love that!
- You don't!
Why don't you love that?
- I just thought it was
such a serious thing,
and it was so
cavalier for her.
- Right. Uh, do you love
Lil Nas X?
Does she love
Lil Nas X?
- She loves that.
- I love it.
- Um, does she love
Whitney putting
her entire savings into
the Wild Rose rebrand?
- Look, she's a smart
entrepreneur,
she does not love that.
- I do not love that.
- Uh, does she love
Meredith hiring
a private investigator
to look into Jen?
- She loves that.
She loves a fact.
- I love a fact.
- Okay.
- We find out
a lot of facts.
- Does she love
"Succession," Jeff?
- She loves it.
- Obsessed.
- Okay. Does she love
Vanessa Bayer's
Lisa Barlow
impression?
- I love that!
- Okay,
you didn't have to answer.
- She loves it.
- Does she love Mary giving
a different invite to Whitney
for her Italian streetwear
luncheon, Jeff?
- I mean, I love it,
but I don't--
Do you-- you probably
don't love that.
- I didn't love it.
- Um, does she love
Mary's Louboutin shoes
that she gifted to Jenny, Jeff?
- Mmm, do you
love that?
- I did not love those.
- Okay!
Thank you for playing.
You both win.
"Watch What Happens Live"
Mazel holiday sweatshirts.
- Woo, I'm excited!
- Is that for me?
- Get one at
shopbybravo.com.
- Amazing!
- Andy, I love it.
- I do, too.
- Lisa, do you love it?
- I love it!
- Thank you!
We'll be right back.
* AC in the NYC *
* NYC AC *
- All right,
we are back with, uh,
"Watch What Happens Live."
I'm Andy, here with Lisa,
and Jeff, and Mr. Showbiz,
Murray Hill, behind the bar.
[cheering and applause]
Jeff, Melissa from Michigan
said since you worked with
Lala and Randall
on their home,
were you surprised to hear
about their recent break-up?
- I was very surprised.
Honestly, they were--
I mean, I worked
with them briefly,
but they were
very much in love.
It shocks me.
- Shocks.
- Yeah.
- David D., uh,
texted Jen, uh,
Lisa, Jen has been
very vocal on Twitter
that Meredith
is lying about
the purse-stealing incident.
Do you believe the videotape
is what Meredith
describes it to be?
- I have mixed
emotions on it.
I do think that
the clutch was taken
and returned,
I don't think he stole it.
I think he-- had it--
he had it in his--
when you look at
the videotape,
he's carrying
the clutch out.
I-- from what
they were showing,
it looks like
he's carrying the clutch out.
It didn't look like
he was trying to steal it.
I think it might
have been an accident,
and then it was
returned immediately.
And-- I know, I know
it's not popular to say that--
- No, it's not popular.
- But I don't think it
was intentional.
- It's also not popular
to take something
without paying for it.
- Yeah.
- And that is stealing.
- Yeah.
- That's stealing.
So I believe Meredith.
- I know.
I was giving him
the benefit of a doubt.
- I'm not.
- Yeah.
Go with Jeff.
[chuckling]
- Uh, Ryan B.
wants to know
why your phone background
is a bottle of Vida Tequila.
- Because I love my brand.
[chuckling]
- It's good tequila.
- Yes, I love it!
- She sent it to me.
- Yes!
[cheering]
- It's a good tequila.
- I think I make
great tequila.
- Well, let me
sell you something.
I use Fresh Wolf body wash
every day in the shower.
- I do, too!
- I love that!
- I went through it all.
I went through it all.
Yup, sorry.
- It's time for
Watch What Happens Five.
People might think that
Jeff Lewis can be
a little rough
around the edges,
but the one place
on Jeff Lewis
where you won't find
any rough edges at all
are his round,
massively engorged lips.
So in honor of those
legendary smackers,
we are counting down
the top 5 everyday objects
one could mistake
for Jeff Lewis' lips.
- Oh my god.
- Are you ready, Jeff?
- Okay.
- Coming in at number 5,
like Jeff's lips,
it's plump, it's puffy,
and it holds a weiner well.
It's a hot dog bun.
[laughing]
The number 4 item
can get just as saucy
as the words that come out
of Jeff's lips.
It's Tuna Nigiri!
The next lip decoy
probably wouldn't fit
in Jeff's design scheme,
but it is designed
to look just like
his kisser.
Number 3 is
a beanbag chair.
[laughing]
Unlike Jeff's lips,
our number 2 item is a hit
at children's
birthday parties.
It's a bouncy castle!
The number one thing
you might confuse
for Jeff Lewis' lips
can make a 9021-O-face.
It's Lisa Rinna's lips!
Wow, they basically look
just like Jeff's lips!
We do, we have
the same lips.
Jeff, just checking,
are we still speaking?
- You and I?
- Yeah.
- Yes, yes, yes.
- Okay.
[applause]
I wanna thank Lisa,
Jeff, and Murray
for being here.
Our word of the night
was "love."
We said it 46 times.
If you've been playing
our drinking game, no driving.
See you on the aftershow
on Twitter live.
[cheering and applause]
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