- She plays a big wig,
and his wife
is big on wigs.
It's "Watch What
Happens Live"
with J. Smith-Cameron
and Harry Hamlin now.
[cheers and applause]
* Andy Cohen's
Got the 411 *
* King king
Of midnight fun *
* Midnight
MC AC *
* Late night *
Hey, everybody, welcome
to "Watch What Happens Live."
I'm your host Andy Cohen
live in the Bravo Clubhouse
with a combination of guests
here to serve up
the Sterling Cooper
Waystar Royco merger fantasy
you've always dreamed of.
When my first guest plays
Gerri Kellman on "Succession."
She rolls with all the top dogs
in corporate America
and one notable slime puppy.
From "Succession"
which airs on HBO
and drops on HBO Max
Sundays at 9:00,
it's J. Smith-Cameron!
Hey, J.!
[cheers and applause]
My next guest is
a Hollywood mover and shaker
and famed tomato sauce maker.
Catch him playing
Tom Brokaw
in National Geographic's
"The Hot Zone: Anthrax,"
a three-part series
now streaming on Hulu.
It is our friend
Harry Hamlin.
Great to see you, Harry!
[cheers and applause]
I mean, both of you
are actors
who have been in so many things
over so many years.
Have you two ever met?
- No.
- Just tonight.
- Yeah, first time.
- Well, this is very exciting.
- Yeah.
- I feel the electricity.
- But I'm such a huge fan!
Oh, my God!
- Ditto.
- Very nice.
Oh, you're a big
"Succession" fan?
- Total. Absolutely.
- I am, too.
I just watched, uh, five
episodes in the last two days
to get ready
for seeing J.,
because I'm such a fan.
We are all talking
shop tonight,
but tonight's bartenders
know Talking Heads.
They are performers
in the fantastic Broadway show
"David Byrne's
American Utopia"
now playing at
the St. James Theatre.
Say hello to
Bobby Wooten III,
Angie Swan
and Chris Giarmo!
[cheers and applause]
Hi! Great to see you all!
I loved "American Utopia."
What a brilliant night
in the theater.
Uh, it's great
to see you all.
Drinking game alert--
My guests won't know it,
but any time you hear
anyone say this word,
if you're 21 or over,
give your drink
a J. Smith-Hammerin'.
As I mentioned,
both of you
have worked your way
to the top of the acting game.
You've appeared
in so many things,
uh, but they didn't
start out as Logan Roys,
so I want to take a look back
at their Cousin Greg years.
It's time to
Open the Vault!
Here we go, guys.
Look right here.
J.-- wow, here you are
on your wedding day
marrying the great
Kenny Lonergan
with Matthew Broderick
as a groomsman.
Um, here is your
throwback headshot.
I love it.
Um, and here you are in--
who remembers that you were
in "Harriet the Spy" while--
playing the mom?
- With mayonnaise.
- With mayonnaise
every day for
the past five years.
Don't you want a little variety?
- Nope.
- Ah, giving you sass.
Here you are in "True Blood."
I forgot that you
were in "True Blood," J.
- Yeah.
- Oh, hey, son.
[dog barking]
- Don't you snarl at me.
- Yeah. Okay.
Here we are, uh--
Now look at this
DVD cover for, uh,
for Mr. Hamlin.
I thought this was a porn.
It is actually--
You actually played
an accountant in this.
It's called "Save Me."
Of course, that was in 1994.
- Wait a minute.
- Jumping, uh,
seven years earlier,
here you are, of course,
Sexiest Man Alive--
"People" magazine,
uh, 1987.
Look at the lips.
Here he is, uh,
in a 1979 TV miniseries
"Studs Lonigan."
Roll it, guys.
- I'm gonna put you
to work.
- Char-- With the great
Charles Durning.
- I'm gonna turn you
into a decent citizen
if I have to kill you to do it.
- Look at the pageboy.
- You're comin' with me startin'
tomorrow morning to work
and every morning after that!
- I ain't workin' for you!
- Ooh, I like it.
- I do, too.
- Okay, but we have to go
deep into something
called "Night Sins."
Uh, here you are, Harry,
also in 1979.
Gays in the bed!
- What are you doing? Get out!
- Shut up!
I'm outta time,
and I'm outta patience.
- This was on TV?
- Tell me about that van
right now.
- Okay, but we need to dig
further into "Night Sins."
Roll this clip.
- You keep your hands
off Mitch.
I'll get you some menus.
- I just like
her cherry pie.
- And how's your wife
feel about her cherry pie?
- My wife's dead.
- Yes! The dialogue!
Give it up
for Harry and J.!
[cheers and applause]
Of course, Valerie Bertinelli
played a, uh,
FBI agent in that.
Now as I said earlier,
I am obsessed
with "Succession," J.,
and I have a lot of questions
about the show.
It's time for
a "Clubhouse Quickie!"
- Uh-oh.
- Is there anyone to root for
on the show?
Because I think you're
the only one that I root for.
- I'll take it.
- Okay, um, who do you think--
Who do you really think
Logan's favorite child is?
- Roman.
- Roman?
Who do you think
Gerri's favorite is?
- Roman.
- Uh, is Cousin Greg
as gullible as he seems?
- No.
- No?
Do Tom and Shiv
love each other?
- I think they--
I think they did.
I'm not sure what's
going on right now.
- Do you think everyone is
underestimating Connor?
- Yes.
- Uh, do you think
Kendall loves Logan?
- Yes.
- Was Kendall always so stupid?
Was he so stupid
in past seasons?
- Um, yeah.
I mean, he's-he's-he's
not stupid.
He's-he's naive.
He's-- yeah, he's stupid.
- Stupid. Yes.
Um, if you could play
any other role on the show,
who would it be?
- Oh, I don't know.
I mean--
- You're-you're so good
as you are.
The role of Gerri was
originally written as a man.
What was it about
your interpretation
that made them
change their minds?
Do you know?
- I have no idea.
I mean, I remember
my audition,
and I remember that
it was written--
as it was written for a man,
there was all this coarse
language in the scene,
so they hadn't rewritten it
for a woman,
so it was just
coming at me,
and it was supposed to be
like locker room talk,
so I was just taking it,
but kind of wincing at it,
and that became
a kind of Gerri thing
that happened
every episode,
like, you know,
me being like--
rolling my eyes,
or, like, being disgusted,
but take--
but being fine, you know.
- Do you think that Gerri
and Roman will, um--
- Consumate?
- Consumate.
- I-I don't know.
I don't think so.
I mean, I feel like--
First of all,
let's just talk about him.
I don't think he could do that.
- Right. Right. Right.
- Right? He would
be freaked out.
And then I think
I would be, too.
- I think he deals with some
serious erectile dysfunction.
- He's got-- yeah, I don't know
what kind of dysfunction,
but he's-he's got--
- He's got it all.
- And then I think--
I think my character
is too careful
to-to do that.
But, you know,
if the writers write it...
- There you go.
- There we go.
- Thank you very much,
J. Smith-Cameron.
You're into it,
huh, Harry?
- I'm totally into it, you know?
- Yes.
- And I can't believe you--
it was written for a man,
and you went in so un--
politically uncorrect.
You're taking on
a man's role.
Are actors allowed
to do that?
- Well, Harry,
you have worked with
the top writers
and directors in Hollywood,
but nothing pops off
the page
quite like the drama
you witness in real life
as Mr. Lisa Rinna.
Yes, I called you that.
I wanna get your take
on all the "Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills" happenings
Here we go, Harry.
I wanna know
if you think your wife
made too big of a deal
over Garcelle
not formally thanking you
for the jar of sauce?
Or were you hurt?
- No, no, no,
and I texted Garcelle,
and I said, "Garcelle,
I never expected a thank you.
I never would've-- I just wanted
you to enjoy the sauce."
I don't even remember
how that came up.
Did Lisa actually accuse her
of not thanking--
- Yes, she did.
- Really?
- Yes, she did.
- Well, naughty on her.
- Okay, by the way,
I have my sauce
that was given to me
by you and Lisa.
And it is still frozen.
We have not made it.
You will hear from me
after I make it.
General thoughts on how
Erika handled herself
at the reunion?
- You know, she's in
a really, really tough spot.
- Okay.
- And you were
really hard on her.
I mean, you were tough, okay?
- Yes.
- And she handled herself
brilliantly
given how you were turning
the screws, I think.
- Okay.
- And, uh, she's in
a very tough spot.
- Um, do your--
okay, were you at all aware
of the commotion going on
between Sutton and Crystal
in your backyard
during the party?
- I was taking the dishes out,
you know,
and all of a sudden I heard
something about leather pants
and someone screaming about--
and I went, wait a minute.
Who screams about
leather pants?
- Did you think her
leather pants were ugly?
- No, they were great.
What are you talking about?
- Okay, um, what was
your read
on the tenuous Garcelle
and Lisa reconciliation?
- Look, I'm just glad that
they have reconciled.
I'm glad that they have,
and I know--
look, we've been friends
with Garcelle for years.
- Yes.
- Much longer
than any of the other
girls on the show.
- Yes, yes.
- Including Denise.
So we were-- and she was--
I'm really glad for that.
- Um, what was your thought
about, uh, Lisa's confession
that she went too hard
on Yolanda, Kim, and Denise,
and that that haunts her
to this day?
- You know, I saw that,
and I said to her,
you know, you don't
have to go there.
I mean, look, she comes
from the heart, and she's--
Lisa is, um, very sensitive
about injustice.
So if she sees
any injustice anywhere,
she's gonna call it out.
And if she thinks
that somebody's
not telling the truth
or whatever--
- People felt that Erika--
she should've held Erika
to the same standard
that she held Yolanda
or Vanderpump
or Denise.
- But Erika has never told
an untruth to--
as far as we know to Lisa.
- Do you think Erika
had a right to be upset
with Kyle and Dorit
during their double date
about how the men
were laughing at her?
- Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
- All right, thank you
very much, Harry Hamlin.
[applause]
What I think
is interesting
is your wife joins this show
a few years ago.
You were very-- you showed up
a little bit, whatever.
I feel that now you're
looking at this show
as the sociological
experience
that a lot of other people
are looking at it as.
- It absolutely is.
It's a total reflection
of where we are
in our society right now.
And Aristotle said,
art is a mirror of life.
So in that sense it's art.
Ha ha!
- There you go.
Uh, J., HollyLoddy88
wants to know
what Gerri's Real Housewives
tagline would be.
[laughter]
- Get in that bathroom.
- Yes!
[cheering]
By the way, I think Roman
has a weird bathroom fetish.
He's always going for it
in the bathroom.
- I know, that's true.
The bathroom is key for him.
- Coming up,
we have more with Harry and J.
Here's who's coming by
the Clubhouse this week.
We're gonna be
right back.
[cheers and applause]
- I've been speaking
to a contact
with connections at DoJ.
- Laurie?
- Well, we have
a number of friends.
And the word is
on the down low
that they've seen
everything now,
they've reviewed,
and they're happy with
how we're engaging,
and they're coming to the view
that Kendall overpromised,
and perhaps some men
were terribly naughty
back in the day,
but nothing systemic,
nothing sanctioned.
- Gonna be a number.
- Just a number?
- Nothing custodial for anyone.
- No prison?
- Nu-unh, nope.
We don't think so.
- Here's to us.
- (all) To us!
- To us!
[cheers and applause]
That was a clip of my guest
J. Smith-Cameron
in "Succession."
Watch it Sundays
at 9 on HBO
or stream it
on HBO Max.
Welcome back to
"Watch What Happens Live."
I'm Andy Cohen
live in the Bravo Clubhouse
also joined
by Harry Hamlin.
Harry's new limited series
"The Hot Zone: Anthrax"
is now available on Hulu.
Over at the bar
from David Byrne's
"American Utopia"
now playing
at the St. James theater,
it's Bobby, Angie,
and Chris.
[cheers and applause]
Drinking game reminder:
any time you hear this word
in honor of Harry famously
making tomato sauce,
drink until you're jarring.
Let's take questions
from our virtual fans.
Here's Kenny
from Massachussets
with a question for the great
J. Smith-Cameron.
- Hey, Andy, happy Hannukah.
- Thanks.
- Harry Hamlin, hello.
- Mm-hmm.
- So J., what has
your reaction been
to all the female attention
surrounding Cousin Greg,
and the "Post" calling him
"New York's hottest bachelor"?
Why do you-why do you think
he has all the ladies
hot and bothered?
- That's an extremely
good question.
I've asked that myself
all the time.
I don't actually
understand that,
because I do think
Nick Braun is really attractive,
I think he's really sweet
and really funny,
but he's like this big,
gigantic, gawky, awkward guy.
So I don't understand
the sex symbol thing,
but I guess, I mean,
it's kinda sweet
that he's become
a sex symbol.
- Okay, by the way,
let me turn this, uh,
before we go to
our next viewer question,
Lil'MissAnnThropy said
"what does J. think
"about her MILF title,
"and is she aware
that Geri is making
gays and lesbians insane?
We are here for you!"
[cheers and applause]
You are becoming
a sex symbol, J.
- Well, I've no issue
with that.
- Okay, very good.
[laughter]
Here are Carmony and Pasha
from Arkansas
with a question
for Harry Hamlin
from "Making Love"
with Kate Jackson
and Michael Ontkean,
my favorite movie.
- Hmm?
- Yes.
- Hi, Andy. Sending love
from Arkansas.
Love the book.
- Yay. Oh, thank you.
What's your question?
- Our question
is for Harry Hamlin.
Harry, what do you
think happened
between Amelia
and Scott Disick
to cause the breakup,
and were you secretly
happy when they did?
Um, okay,
so this is a very interesting
question as well, um...
look, Amelia's
doing great.
She's living in New York,
and she's having
the time of her life, solo.
Um, I have no idea,
I didn't-- I didn't--
pull the curtain,
I have no idea what, um,
exactly happened there.
I'm just glad
that she is solo.
Put it that way.
- Woo!
- Okay, very good.
Thank you,
virtual fans.
By the way, uh--
[cheering and applause]
I wanted to send
all of our condolences
about, uh, the loss
of your mother-in-law, Lois.
- Oh, thank you.
- Uh, we loved her so much
here at Bravo. Do you have
a favorite memory of Lois?
- Uh, well, her dancing,
you know--
- Yes!
- She-- she was dancing
until three weeks
before she passed, and--
- Wow.
- And Lisa texted me
this morning and said,
"Lois would be happy,
"she made PEOPLE Magazine."
So there's a--
- Oh! I love it.
- There's a thing in PEOPLE
for her, yeah.
- Um--
Cindyrella9 wants to
know if you've heard
from Tom Brokaw or know if
he's seen your performance
in "The Hot Zone."
- I have no idea if he--
I have never met Tom.
I came close to meeting him
a couple years ago,
but somebody whisked him away
as I was going up--
"Hi, Mr. Brokaw."
But, no, I've no idea.
J., David H. said the classic
boar on the floor episode,
how scripted was
that episode?
Did the actors rehearse their
reaction to Logan bellowing
"Boar on the floor?"
No, we didn't
rehearse it.
Um, but, um, there is a--
um, improvisational element
to all the episodes.
They-they have this thing
where we-- they keep the camera
running after you've run out
of dialogue.
- Really?
- So it's-- it's kind of like,
you have to be on your toes.
- And I would think--
is some of your repartee
with, uh, Kieran Culkin, uh,
beneficial to that process?
- Yes.
- Definitely, that's how
that whole relationship
came about, actually.
- Wow, I love that.
Well, while the Roys
and Real Housewives
may have different
business strategies,
namely whether
or not to go all in
on a signature
toaster oven,
both groups are constantly
innovating their use
of the English language.
So let's play a round of
"Roy or Rinna?"
Bobby, Angie, and Chris
behind the bar are gonna
read lines, J. and Harry,
you're gonna guess whether
each one comes
from "Succession"
or from the famous lips
of Harry's wife, Lisa,
on the Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills.
Let's hear
the first line.
- Okay, "It was supposed
to be choreographed.
"That was about
as choreographed
"as a dog getting
effed on rollerskates."
- Okay, was it Housewives
or "Succession?"
- "Succession."
- Definitely
was "Succession."
- Uh, yes, it was.
- It was "Succession."
- Very good. Okay,
give me the next one.
- All right,
number two.
"It's all downhill
from here.
"I mean,
we are effed."
- J.
- That sounds like
"Succession."
- Harry.
- That's Rinna.
- That is Rinna.
[laughing]
- "You know what's
flashing on me
"more than anything
right now?
"O.J."
[laughing]
- I think that's "Succession."
- Definitely
"Succession."
- It is Lisa Rinna.
[laughing]
Give us another one.
- "Oh, here he comes,
the attention whore."
- Okay.
The attention whore,
is it "Succession"
or Housewives?
- "Succession."
- Doesn't sound like Lisa.
- That is Roman who
said that on "Succession."
- Yeah, sounds like Roman.
- Okay, give us another one.
- "We should have ditched
this whole effort
"and gone shopping."
- Lisa.
- That...
that sounds like my wife.
- Yes, that is your wife.
Okay, give us
another one.
- "I think I'm a little
more aggressive,
"I think sometimes
you just need
"a good old-fashioned
dinosaur cull."
- That's Shiv Roy
on "Succession."
- Definitely not Lisa.
- Yes, it is.
Thank you very much!
[cheering and applause]
I appreciate it.
By the way,
I-I started watching some,
um, after the episodes,
where they have a little--
- Ah, yeah.
- And it's fascinating to see
everyone with their accents,
I mean--
- Oh, I know!
- Shiv is-- she has
a deep Australian accent,
- She's Australian,
and Matthew Macfadyen
who plays Tom is Brit--
er, English, and--
- Yes!
- Yeah.
- It's-- they're all--
you're all wonderful actors.
There you go.
Stick around, after the break
we'll have more with these two
and I'll have
my Mazel of the Day,
Don't go anywhere.
[cheering and applause]
**
* Mazel and Jackhole
comin' up *
- Listen, I've had
enough of that, okay?
And no action. I've got
a sick employee upstairs,
and we've had enough
of the runaround.
We still don't know
what Erin has.
- Well, I just
flew in from D.C.
I've only been on the ground
a couple of hours.
But we have the best minds
in the field working on it.
I pulled 'em
out of bed to do it.
And Dr. Layton will make sure
the CDC's on it.
You should have results
by tomorrow.
- Mmm.
Well, I'm trusting you,
agent, because my next call...
is to Ashcroft.
[cheering and applause]
- All right! That was a clip
of my guest, Harry Hamlin,
in "The Hot Zone: Anthrax,"
now streaming on Hulu.
You look like Brokaw, Harry!
- You know, I--
when I took this on,
I thought, you know,
"This is like walking a
tightrope without a net,"
you know?
One false move, and--
So I-- I watched
Anthony Hopkins doing Nixon
when he did that
movie years ago,
and he got the essence,
you know?.
And so I decided to just
kind of see if I could get
a little sprinkle of it.
- You did!
You did. Welcome back to
"Watch What Happens Live."
I'm Andy, also joined
by J. Smith-Cameron
from "Succession."
And Bobby, Angie,
and Chris behind the bar
from "American Utopia."
Um, J., only two more
episodes of "Succession."
What can you tease
about the finale?
- Oh my god, it's--
it's-it's gonna
be very upsetting.
- Oh, really?
It's gonna be
very upsetting?
- It's gonna be a little
shocking, yeah.
- Okay. Harry, uh,
Martine E. wants to know
if you ever talk
to Spielberg
after your bizarre
Indiana Jones audition,
where you had to bake a cake
with Stephanie Zimbalist,
uh, while the kitchen
was bugged with cameras
to see if you
had chemistry?
- Listen, I don't
know for sure
that the kitchen was
bugged with cameras,
but, um, that was
probably the audition.
He wanted to find out
if I had chemistry with her.
- And did you?
- We never baked the cake.
She swears
we baked the cake.
- Right.
- She went on Jay Leno,
she said, "We baked the cake."
We did not bake a cake.
I don't know how
to bake a cake.
She didn't know
how to bake a cake.
I don't know what
she's talkin' about.
Anyway, we did not
get the part!
[laughing]
- There you go.
So I guess that answers that.
- You should have baked a cake.
- Yes, you should
have baked a cake.
It's time for
my Mazel of the Day.
It goes to Barbatos,
for ditching Queen Elizabeth II
for head of state,
and declaring Rihanna
a national hero instead.
This may sound unbelievable,
but as one last order
of official business
on her way out, the Queen asked
for a Savage X Fenti promo code!
You know, a queen has not
been so unceremoniously
dismissed since this.
Nicki, I am handing you
my-- my chair.
- Oh!
- Respect the host, ladies.
[laughing]
That queen was dismissed.
Tonight's Jackhole
goes to Patti Stanger,
who has once again used
her Facetune app on herself
and her Housewife friends,
this time with Jill Zarin.
I love Patti's Facetuning.
After seeing this photo,
we might have to retroactively
change Jill's tagline to
"I run with a fabulous
circle of sex dolls."
[faint laughter]
That was funnier
than that!
[laughing]
I wanna thank J., Harry,
Bobby, Angie, and Chris
for being here.
The word of the night
was "Lisa."
We said it 13 times.
If you were playing
our drinking game,
no driving.
Tomorrow night,
Heather Dubrow
and Annaleigh Ashford
are on live after
the OC premiere.
Thank you! Can't wait
for more "Succession."
Thanks, everyone.
I'll see you on Twitter live.
[cheering and applause]
**