- She's making
a blended family gel,
but are her closest confidants
Coco and Chanel?
It's "Watch What
Happens Live"
with Porsha Williams, now!
[cheering and applause]
* Andy Cohen's
got the 411 *
* King king of
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All right,
hey everybody.
Welcome to
"Watch What Happens Live"
and happy Hanukkah, everybody.
I'm your host, Andy Cohen,
live in the Bravo Clubhouse
wrapping up your long weekend
of leftover pie
with a cherry on top:
a guest whose cake
is apparently cakin'.
You can catch up with her
on her new show,
"Porsha's Family Matters"
and get her new memoir
"The Pursuit of Porsha:
"How I Grew Into
My Power and Purpose."
This drops Tuesday,
you are want--
you're gonna
wanna get it.
It is our friend,
Porsha Williams!
Hey, Porsha!
- Hi! Hey!
- I'm so happy
to see you!
- Oh, I'm so glad
to be here!
- This is our first time
seeing each other
since the pandemic!
- I know, I know.
It's-- it's just nothing
like being in the Clubhouse.
- Oh my god, so excited.
- I always just say that.
- And especially live
on a Sunday night.
- Yes!
- Wow, we had a huge night
on Bravo. We have Nicki Minaj
on the Potomac reunion.
We had your premiere.
- Set it off.
- We have lots to discuss.
Over at the bar helping us
get relatively
messy tonight,
it's Porsha's sister, Lauren,
and her cousin, Londy.
Great to see you.
[cheering and applause]
I mean, I was telling, uh,
Lauren before the show,
she used to be the voice
of reason in Porsha's world,
but now we see that
it's really Londy.
- Now's it's me, now it's me.
- Her second one.
- Yes, exactly.
Drinking game alert!
Porsha will not know it,
but anytime you hear anyone
say this word,
if you're 21 or over,
in honor of
all the discussion
around Porsha's
tattoo choice tonight,
drink until you're
a pain in the neck,
and grab your phone
and head to WWHL.tv
right now.
We have tons of polls
coming your way.
Uh, okay, let's first talk about
"Porsha's Family Matters."
- Yes.
- Uh, David P. wants to know
why exactly was it
such a big deal
that Simon posted those photos
of you two on his Instagram.
And actually,
before you answer--
- Okay.
- Let's go to our first
poll question of the night.
WWHL.tv, tell us,
was Simon in the wrong
for posting the picture
of Porsha's tattoo,
yes or no?
Why were you upset?
- First of all, don't play.
Y'all have know me longer.
- Okay.
- Don't play. Um, but no,
what it was, we had been
under a lot of heat,
as everybody knows, right?
- Yes.
- And so I was guarded
with what we shared.
At that moment,
everybody was like,
"Oh, I wanna see 'em kiss!"
or "I wanna see this!"
and I was like,
well, I wanna show
what I wanna show.
- Okay.
- And I just felt like
it's my world, and, um,
you know, just let me--
let me run that part.
That's all.
- Does he run his social media
posts by you now?
Do you have him
submissive to that?
- I-I have the--
the code to it.
- You have the code, very good.
- Oh yes.
- And you all said yes.
- I monit--
I lovingly monitor it.
- Right.
[laughing]
Uh, now, by the way,
Wendy V. wants to
know your reaction
to Dennis telling your sister
tonight that the reason
why he couldn't bring
a date to your party
is 'cause you're
still in love with him.
- Oh, I was in shock
just as much
as everybody
who was watchin'.
- Oh, really?
- Yes, I was.
I was. I mean, because it's
not like Dennis and I
don't share love
for our daughter...
- Okay.
- And therefore, it's like,
"Okay, you're a family member,
we love you as family,"
but that was on
a different tone that...
- I didn't see it
comin' either.
- It was--
- Uh...
Serena S. wants to know if
you think it was a little gross
for Simon to go through
all your Instagram posts
and comment
#mine on them?
- He is mine. Why would that
be gross to me?
- Okay. Um, okay, guys--
- Lo-lo-lovely.
- Next poll, WWHL.tv,
who do you think is
Porsha's better match,
Dennis or Simon?
- Shady!
- Um...
- Oh, hell no!
[laughing]
- Dennis is comin' in
with the votes!
- Why is Dennis winnin'?
- Lauren, uh, Londy,
where are you goin' on this?
- Y'all are shady!
- Whatever Porsha thinks.
That is so shady.
- Mum's the word.
- Okay, they are--
- I don't think--
I don't like that answer.
- ...standing in line.
- I need you to
answer it, because--
- Um, what do you
think about--
the audience voted for Dennis!
- I have a fiance!
- It was a landslide!
- Keep watchin'!
- Okay. Switching gears
to the pink Sunday
we experienced tonight
with Nicki Minaj
playing Potomac
reunion host.
Answer this poll
on WWHL.tv,
which wife did Nicki
go hardest on,
Gizelle, Candiace,
Robyn, Ashley,
Wendy, Karen,
or Mia?
Who do you think
she went hardest on?
- Candiace.
- Candiace?
- Yeah, I thought she rode
Candiace pretty hard.
- And what was your
reaction to that?
- Um, I-- you know, Candiace--
sometimes with Candiace,
I be ridin' her hard
from my couch, okay?
- Okay.
- I be screamin' and everything.
But I did feel
like there were--
when it came to the music
and just some of the things,
I just-- I don't know, I just
felt like it was a little...
more charged.
- Okay,
you all said Candiace, too.
On that topic, Porsha,
please drive back
into "Chat Room" mode,
and give us all your hot takes
on the Potomac drama.
Thoughts on Nicki Minaj
taking the seat at the reunion?
What did-- what was
your reaction to that?
I'm so curious.
- Well, first of all,
I was living for every moment.
I'm a big, big Nicki fan,
and she had me in
one of her songs.
Hey, girl, I love you!
But it really felt to me
like having a Housewife,
because she knew so much
about the show, it felt
like she was on the show--
- Right.
- And a fan.
- Yes.
- So she was able
to play both sides,
and I was eatin' it up.
- Is Wendy justified
in still being so angry
with the bulk of the ladies
for bringing up
the Eddie cheating rumors?
- I wanna say first,
you-- what--
her first time dealing
with this on camera,
I feel like
she's justified.
I feel like as
she continues on the show,
she's gonna do the same thing
to someone else, trust me.
- Um, thoughts on Wendy's
posterboard receipts?
- Where was it?
Where did she pull it from?
- Why did you think, uh,
it is that Gizelle
didn't shed any tears
when discussing Jamal?
- Gizelle is a gangster,
and-- and she's, uh--
a real woman,
a mother, a lover,
and let me tell you somethin',
when a woman is hurt,
we're not gonna ever
cry the same tears.
So that's not to say
she wasn't hurt.
She's not gonna
cry the same tears.
- Do you agree with the women
that Candiace is too quick
to cut them to
the white meat?
And doesn't take
accountability for her words?
- She did like
Thanksgiving,
she will cut you to
the white meat, then eat it.
- Right.
- Okay? Um, so I do think
that she is really harsh,
however, by the time I watch
the first episode
and the second,
I will say, Candiace,
she just knows--
she does know
how to land it.
And then when it came to
some of the other ladies,
those flash--
those flashbacks between
Gizelle and Karen,
they're pretty vicious, too.
- Yeah.
- So, I think--
look, it evens out.
- It all--
it all evens out in the wash.
- It does, it does.
- Uh, thoughts on
the new wife, Mia, this season.
- Oh, I love her!
I really do.
And please come back.
It's like she been tellin' us
online she's not comin' back.
Don't do that, girl.
Be a star.
- Uh, do you feel the women--
do-- is that what
she's sayin' online?
She's not comin' back?
- Yeah, online,
she changed her Instagram,
and I'm like, don't go!!!
- Uh, do you feel the women
go too hard on Gizelle's home?
- Yes! I mean, it's hard!
Like, come on!
Like any-- anybody workin' hard,
they call it a hotel, and--
- Whose-- whose side were you on
in the great salad toss,
Candiace or Mia?
- The one with
the biggest hands, honey,
'cause she threw
the whole plate in one...
- Thank you very much, Porsha!
[laughing]
[cheering and applause]
- Well...
you know, as we saw
on your show tonight,
people on the internet have made
analyzing your relationship
a year-round pastime.
I would love
to nail down some dates
within your much-discussed
dating timeline.
Okay?
- Okay.
- I have questions for you.
How exactly did you
and Simon meet?
You claim he slid
into your DMs.
Was that before
you met him
at Falynn's hot tub
and hookah party last season?
- Oh, no, absolutely not.
That was after, um,
he posted about the divorce.
And I do have to say, yes,
on the show I was playing coy.
You can see,
I do the eye stuff.
I actually told him,
you know, like,
I'm sorry for your divorce
and all that,
because I know what
that feels like, right?
Like, I know
what it feels like
to go through
betrayals and hurt.
And a little birdie had told me
that she was pregnant.
So I knew what he was
about to go through.
So I was just basically like,
hey, are you okay?
You know, I'm praying for you
and your family.
- How did Falynn
find out
that you were
with Simon?
- Um, I'm not sure.
I don't-I don't have--
I've never had any
communication with her.
- You haven't?
Have you had--
have you had any
communication with her
since you've been
with him?
- No, and he hasn't either.
- We did you ask Dennis
for your engagement ring back
in December when--
only to get engaged
to Simon in May?
- 'Cause I-- first of all,
can y'all count?
This is a lot of time
in between there.
- Okay.
- The timeline on the TV--
- It's five months.
- Is like this, and it's not--
- Okay.
- But here's the thing,
I was tired
of the roller-coaster.
Like, we had not been intimate
or anything,
but I was just, like,
with my daughter here
I wanna know what it is.
So if you wanna be with me,
bring the damn ring back.
When he didn't,
it was an easy cut.
- What's your biggest concern
about being Simon's fourth wife?
- Um, well, Simon has done
a lot of work on himself.
He is a big advocate if you--
if anybody follows him,
for se-- for going to therapy
and all of that,
and that's part of why
we trust him.
- Um, how did you reveal
to Dennis
that you and Simon
were engaged?
- So Simon--
here's the thing.
Yeah, 'cause I wanted
to clear it up, too.
So the reason why I told
Dennis in the first place
is because we have had a great
co-parenting relationship.
And one of our things
was if we were gonna
bring someone
around our daughter,
we were gonna let
the other person know.
So after I had been talking
to Simon for two weeks,
is when I called him
and actually came over
to pick PJ up,
and I told him.
So then, yes, two weeks
after that we got engaged.
What? I'm Black. What?
[laughter]
- Does it--
does it concern you--
- God just-God just dropped
that man in my lap.
What was I supposed to do?
- Does it concern you
that Simon has admitted
that he has a history
on cheating on his women?
- I've cheated before, too.
- Okay.
Uh, what's
your relationship
with Simon's other children
at this point?
- Oh, I have a good
relationship with them.
- You do.
- Yeah, we have
a great relationship.
- All right,
thank you very much, Porsha.
- What do you--
- Is that it? Is that it?
- Well, what do you think--
what do you think
is the biggest misconception
about your relationship?
That you started dating him
while he was with Falynn,
and that you somehow
stole him from her?
- You know, I think--
here's the thing,
I talk about it on the show
at the beginning
that I just bear
the brunt
of all of the tough
social media bashing,
all of that, and it's okay,
'cause I'm a grown woman.
I make my choices.
Um, she is also grown.
She has had her baby.
Congratulations.
I'm happy for her
and her fiancee.
And it's just grown folks
making decisions.
That's all it is.
And I knew that
it was looking--
the optics weren't great
for the public.
And I knew that y'all love me.
I do, I do.
[cheers and applause]
I know that you love me.
And I know that you didn't
understand at the time.
And I am appreciative
of those who get it now.
'Cause now
it makes sense.
- How long have you
been together now?
- I know, oh, god, right?
It's, like, almost seven months!
- Oh, my god.
- Almost seven months!
- All right, coming up--
- We're like
an old married couple!
- In Porsha years--
how many years is that
in Porsha years?
- Oh, in my years
we're an old married couple.
60 years.
- All right, coming up,
more with Porsha.
Here's who's on
the show this week.
We're gonna be right back.
[cheers and applause]
- All right, welcome back to
"Watch What Happens Live."
I am Andy Cohen live
in the Bravo Clubhouse
diving into tonight's
premiere
of "The Real Housewives
of Atlanta,"
Porsha's family matters,
with the one and only
Porsha Williams.
Hey, Porsha.
[cheers and applause]
So excited about
Porsha's memoir,
"The Pursuit of Porsha."
It dropped Tuesday.
She's going on
a big book tour for it.
I'm so happy for you.
- Thank you.
- And guess what? Everyone in
our studio audience gets a copy!
[cheers and applause]
- Aw, yes!
That is awesome!
- Oh, my god...
[overlapping chatter]
- I love that!
- They're very happy.
I mean, that's--
- That is so cool.
- That's, like, 12 copies
we had to give away.
[laughter]
Tonight's bartenders
aren't just making us feel
like one big happy family,
they're in one.
It's Porsha's sister Lauren
and her cousin Londie.
Welcome.
[cheers and applause]
- Hi!
- Drinking game reminder:
in honor of tonight being
the first night of Hannukah,
anytime you hear this word
sip your drink
until you're as fried
as a latke.
Let's take questions
from our virtual fans.
Here is Matt from Texas
with a question for Porsha.
Hey, Matt.
- Howdy!
- Howdy! Porsha,
you look gorgeous.
- Thank you.
- You look beautiful.
Hey, what is your reaction
to the news
that Marlo is now
holding a peach?
- You know what?
Good for her.
I'm sure it's just
a life's dream
That's-that's just amazing.
[laughter]
Yeah. Thank you, Andy,
for giving her that chance.
- Thank you, cowboy.
Uh, all right, let's go
to Chris and Michelle
from Ontario, who also have
a question for Porsha.
Hey there,
Chris and Michelle.
- Hi, Porsha.
- Hey. Hey, guys.
- Hey, before I ask
my question,
it needs to be said
that "Flatline"
is the most underrated song...
- Listen!
- By a Housewife ever.
- Thank you!
[laughter and cheering]
And the video!
We got a video.
- Yes!
- And it was low budget.
- Question now.
[laughing]
Right.
Question.
How shocked are you that Kenya
and Cynthia's friendship
is on thin ice from
"Ultimate Girls Trip"?
- And--
- I'm not surprised.
I always said just like
big sis NeNe that
that, um, alliance
that they had on RHOA
if they were outside of it,
if it was broken in any way,
they would fall out.
- Wow.
- Yep, I just felt it.
- And do you--
- And?
- And do you think
they'll get back
to a better place?
- Uh, yeah,
this season on
"The Real Housewives
of Atlanta."
- Well, no, Cynthia's
not on this season.
- Oh, she's not?
- No.
- Oh, then it's done.
Stick a fork in it.
[laughter]
- Thanks, virtual fans.
Wow, okay.
[cheers and applause]
You know, the book's got
a lot of people talking.
There is quite
a surprising story
about R. Kelly
in the book.
Uh, you had a past with him
in a sense
that I was unaware of,
I think most people
were unaware of.
You went to a couple
parties with him.
You heard and saw things
that were quite untoward.
And then you had him
on "Dish Nation,"
and he tried
to pick you up
after you had
had this whole history with him
And I mean, I'm telling
the whole story, but--
- No, but-- yeah,
they gotta buy the book.
- Yeah, right, right.
But what was your reaction--
I guess, um--
well, here's a question
from Erica J.,
who said "I read about
your history with him.
"Do you wish
you came out earlier
"in support of the victims,
"and how hard was it for you
to relive your own experiences
once everything with
R. Kelly came to light?"
- First of all, I wanna say
those ladies were very brave.
I felt like Lifetime did
a great job with that piece.
- Yeah.
- It definitely moved me.
And even though
I am a celebrity,
those women inspired me
to speak up.
- Mm-hmm.
- I was having
certain conversations
around the time
that it was happening.
And I just never
got to the place
where I was ready
to speak about it.
I needed to do
my own healing.
And it just became real to me
when the FBI was at my door
that, you know what, I'm not
gonna be silent anymore.
- So the FBI
came to your door when?
- Well, it's all in the book.
- Right.
- The details are in the book.
But this is the thing,
in my book, you know,
it's a whole different Porsha.
It's-- you know, I have
lights, camera, action,
but when the camera
goes off,
I've lived a lot of lives.
- Yeah.
- And I've had a pattern
in my life
where I've dealt with toxic men
who've taken advantage of me,
because I didn't know my worth.
- Right.
- I didn't
love myself enough.
I only saw myself
through other people's eyes.
Which I did some of that
on "Housewives,"
but when you do it
from 20 to 30,
you'll get taken advantage of
in a really bad way.
- Yeah.
- So he was
just one of those men
who had that same face,
and I just didn't want
to leave him out.
- Well, very good.
Uh, since Lauren
and Londie
are both such solid branches
of Porsha's family tea-- tree,
I wanna tap them for tea
and find out
who's more deeply rooted
in their Porsha knowledge.
It's time to play Porsha's
Family Matt-Her Or Her?
I'm gonna pose questions
about Porsha
and count down from three.
All three of you will say
your answers at the same time.
We're gonna see
who gets more matches
with Porsha.
Here we go.
Besides Kenya, which Atlanta
Housewives cast member
does Porsha like
the least?
Three, two, one.
- Kandi?
- NeNe?
- Marlo.
[laughter]
- I like somebody!
- No matches. We got Kandi.
We got NeNe. And you said Marlo.
Okay. Um, what would
Porsha say
is Simon's favorite
body part of hers?
Three, two, one.
- Ass, ass.
- The booty.
- Yes, ass, okay.
[overlapping chatter]
How many days would Porsha say
are in a year?
Three, two, one.
- 265.
- 265!
[laughter]
- She's got it now.
- Okay, which Housewives
franchise
would be Porsha's
last choice to be on?
Three, two, one.
- Potomac.
- New York?
- Beverly Hills.
- Really?
- Yes, because if somebody
throws a drink on me,
I might revert back.
- Wow.
- To the old me.
- Who does Porsha like more,
Cynthia or Kandi?
Three, two, one.
- (both) Cynthia.
- Kandi!
- Oh! They both said
Cynthia, okay.
On a scale of 1-10,
how would you rate Cordell
as a husband to Porsha?
Three, two, one.
- Zero.
- Three?
- Off the charts, zero.
- Okay.
How many times
has Porsha listened to
"Gone with the Wind Fabulous"?
Three, two, one.
- Zero.
- Negative one.
- Once! I watched
the tragedy once.
- Okay.
[laughter]
Oh, my god. Who would Porsha
rather see return
to the Atlanta Housewives,
Kim Fields or Claudia Jordan?
Three, two, one.
- Kim Fields.
- Kim.
- Claudia. Shake it up.
- Okay.
- She's out there.
- Give her a job.
- Million-dollar question...
- Ooh!
- Do you think
Porsha is done
with the Atlanta Housewives
for good?
Three, two, one.
- You're so slick.
You think you're so slick.
- (both) No!
- Maybe not.
- All right.
Okay, stick around.
After the break,
more with Porsha
and my Mazel of the Day.
That was the answer
I wanted to hear.
- You're so slick!
* AC in the NYC
NYC *
- All right, welcome back
to "Watch What Happens Live."
Andy here with Porsha
and Lauren and Londie
at the bar.
[cheers and applause]
Okay, we got some
fun questions here.
Well, Porsha, Corey W.
wants to know
"if you think there's
any truth to the rumors
that Falynn cheated
on Simon?"
- Again, congratulations
for your new baby
that was born
- Mrs. Audacity wants to know
what you think about
"Ramona Singer continuing
to call Kenya Moore your name
"on 'Ultimate Girls Trip.'
Is it shady
or an honest mistake?"
- Knowing Ramona,
it's a little of both.
it's definitely
half and half.
- Uh, have you and Simon
selected a wedding date yet?
- Right now we're just
enjoying the engagement.
Like, wedding planning,
all of that, it'll come.
- But it's already
been seven months.
[laughter]
- Okay.
- Uh, so, Porsha,
LouFelasAL wants to know
"your main reason
for not returning
"to 'Housewives of Atlanta.'
"Were you worried
you wouldn't be able to handle
"the scrutiny
from the other wives
about how your relationship
with Simon started?"
- They're gonna be able to
answer that question
for themselves after
"Porsha's Family Matters."
Because no one
is more honest with you
than your family.
Like, for me, I've been
on the show ten years,
so I don't care what someone
who doesn't like me has to say.
It was much harder
hearing some of the things
or trying to bond with my family
over this situation.
- Interesting perspective.
- So it was--
- Didn't think about that.
- Between the two,
family gave it more.
- Wow.
So it would almost be easier
to have Kenya ragging on you
about your relationship
than your family.
- You know,
when we did our first--
when we did our first
scene together,
it was a family scene,
it didn't feel real.
So right after that--
didn't I--
I called each one of them,
and I said,
that's not what
this show is about.
I said this show is a real,
authentic, raw reality
of our family.
- That's what it is.
All right, it's time for
my Mazel of the day.
It goes to the American
musical theater legend
Stephen Sondheim,
who passed away on Friday
at the age of 91.
Sondheim, widely considered
to be one of the greatest
composer/lyricists
of all time,
was behind masterpieces like
"West Side Story,"
"Gypsy," "Into the Woods,"
"Company," "Sweeney Todd,"
"Sunday in the Park
with George," and many more.
He won eight Tonys,
and Academy Award,
and every other accolade
you can imagine
for a body of work
that explored
the true meaning
of being alive.
And when the Broadway community
gathered in Times Square today
to honor him
with a moving performance
of his iconic song "Sunday,"
someone else loomed large
over the tribute.
It's Kenya and Ramona!
- Oh!
- I mean, I don't think
that's what he meant
when he wrote
"send in the clowns,"
but there you have it.
[laughter]
Stephen Sondheim,
you will be missed.
Rest in peace.
No Jackhole tonight.
I wanna thank Porsha, Lauren,
and Londie for being here.
The word of the night
was "Simon."
We said it 18 times.
If you've been playing
our drinking game, no driving.
Tomorrow night
Mary J. Blige is here
with Charlamagne tha God
at 10 after "Below Deck."
Thank you, Porsha.
- Thank you!
- Watch our aftershow now
on Twitter Live.
[cheers and applause]