- Her "Housewives" fandom
is a lot to undertake,
and she randomly popped out
of a layer cake.
It's "Watch What
Happens Live"
with Karen Huger
and Leslie Grossman now.
[cheers and applause]
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Welcome to "Watch What
Happens Live."
I'm your host, Andy Cohen,
in the Bravo Clubhouse,
reeling from tonight's
episode of "Potomac,"
which could also be called
"American Horror Story--
Party Invitation."
Please welcome the woman
who sent the terrifying
invites in question,
"Real Housewife of Potomac"
Karen Huger in bangs!
[cheers and applause]
- Thank you!
- And if you thought
Karen was extra,
my next guest is starring
in not one,
but two "American Horror
Stories" at once.
The entire season
of "American Horror Story:
Double Feature"
is streaming now
on FX and Hulu
starring our dear friend
Leslie Grossman.
Hey, Leslie!
[cheers and applause]
I mean, both of you look
like a million dollar bill.
- Thank you, Andy.
- And, Karen,
I love your jumpsuit.
- Well, this is for you.
- Well, thank you.
- I know you love a jumpsuit.
- I do. Yes, I do. And after
interviewing a hundred--
over a hundred past and present
Real Housewives,
I thought I could use
a comfortable place to lean
so I stashed him
behind the bar.
His book, "Not All Diamonds
and Rose:
"The Inside Story
of the Real Housewives
"From the People Who Lived It"
is the definitive oral history
of "The Real Housewives."
It's out now.
It is flaming hot.
And, uh, say hi
to Dave Quinn.
Hey, Dave!
[cheers and applause]
Um, besides Karen Huger,
who was your favorite
Housewife to interview?
- Oh, I mean, how could
I answer that question?
They were all so incredible.
I loved talking to everyone.
I think my favorite
interviews in the book
are all the producers.
Those are the ones I think
that are the delicious--
- Yes, they-they really
spill the tea.
- They do.
- And they know, uh,
where the bodies are bill--
buried, so to speak.
Drinking game alert.
My guests won't know it.
Anytime you hear
anyone say this word,
if you're 21 and over,
drink until you're the
ambassador of Blurry County.
Um, by the way,
speaking of which,
we are in-in Manhattan.
We're in Soho tonight.
- Uh-huh.
- Is Surry County here
with you, would you say?
- Andy, is that a question?
Wherever I am,
Surry County is.
[cheers and applause]
- Right. Right.
Um, Leslie, do you feel
the excitement of Surry County
just sitting next to Karen?
- Well, first of all, there was
a lot of secret service
that I had to get through.
- Yes!
This is beyond exciting.
I'm a big fan
of the Grande Dame,
so this is really,
really exciting for me.
- Um, and, um,
where do you stand
in the three wick/one wick,
uh, conversation?
- What do you
want me to say?
- Say middle.
Say in the middle.
- In the middle. That's
where I am. In the middle.
- Okay. All right.
Very good.
Um, if you had a room
without a bathroom
on the couples' trip,
would you have left, too,
Grande Dame?
- No.
- Would you?
- In one second
I would have left, yes.
- I know.
- Okay.
Um, Karen, did Ashley
go too far
by age-shaming G tonight?
- I don't think she went
too far with that.
What I thought
she went too far
was with the Alzheimer's
statement.
- Right, with
the Alzheimer's statement.
- I thought that was
a little insensitive.
- I'm sorry, it was
"Old Timer's."
- I heard it. I heard it.
But, yeah. So I'm really
sensitive toward that.
- Well, by the way,
you've also lived through
that, of course.
- Right, and I'm glad
I was not in that scene.
- Yes. Um, thought's on Karen's
butterfly invitations?
Some of the ladies thought
that they were moths.
- There is no way.
- Um, some of them--
they did not arrive living.
Um, thoughts?
- Karen, look, I loved it.
- Yes, thank you.
- I loved the thought
behind it.
I thought you wanted to give
people an experience.
- Experience.
- There was some death,
which was upsetting.
A little bit of death.
- No, it wasn't death
let me tell you.
- Okay.
- Thank you for bringing
that up,
because they actually had to be
kept at a low temperature,
so they were sleeping.
- Oh, okay.
- They were sleeping.
They weren't dead.
They were just sleeping.
- Okay. Good to know.
- I mean, that's-that's
what you tell a little kid.
- Those were little kids who
received it, though.
Yes, yes, right okay.
Um, wow, well, you know,
Karen is so over the top,
she did three wicks
when others only did one,
and she sent an invitation
with live or sleeping
butterflies
when an e-vite
could have sufficed.
So I want to know
how her pals measure up
to her greatness with
"Is It Grand Enough
for the Dame?"
Karen, I want to know
if the following moments
from your friends
were grand enough for you.
Wendy's one-wick candle?
- Pass.
Uh, Mia's penthouse?
- Oh, Grande.
- Grande.
- Gizelle and Robyn's
reasonably shady party?
- It was Grande,
because I was vaccinated.
- Yes, you were.
You were vaccinated.
Candiace's not-low-budget
parking lot video shoot?
- Grande, because my Maserati
was featured.
- Oh!
[cheers and applause]
- Robyn's miming
effing herself.
- Whoo!
Uh, not-not Grande.
- No. What about
the cottage?
- It was Grande
because I was there.
- Okay. What about, uh,
Wendy's sultry "Nude Interlude"
party invite?
- Totally Grande.
- Yes. Yes.
All right, thank you very much.
[cheers and applause]
I appreciate it,
Grande Dame.
You know,
Leslie spends her day job
scaring the crap
out of all of us
on "American Horror Story."
But since she's spending
her night in the Clubhouse,
I thought she could take
several stabs
at some Bravo hot takes
with "BravOH No They Didn't."
Okay, "Beverly Hills"--
biggest question.
Where do you stand on
all the Erika Jayne drama?
How is she doing at
the reunion for you so far?
- I think she's
holding her own.
I think you really
put her feet to the flame,
which I appreciate.
You asked all the questions
that we needed to hear.
- Good.
- Um, and I do actually feel
in the second part
that I thought of things
a little bit differently.
I think--
- Really?
- I do. I think that a lot of--
- Anything she said
that made you-- specifically
that made you think of--
- I think that
she really--
There was a wall of people
between her and her husband
and the finances
and all of those things, so--
- Interesting.
- I-I just--
Do I know for sure, Andy?
- Yes, right.
- No, I do not.
- None of us do.
- But I think we're
getting there.
- That's what keeps
us watching, yes.
- We're just getting there.
Okay.
- Grande Dame, have you
been watching the "Beverly
Hills" reunion?
- It's painful for me to watch,
because I love Erika, so--
but I absolutely believe
that wall was there,
because, you know,
in a marriage,
we don't always know
what our very powerful
husbands are doing.
And when we find out,
we smash their ass up.
[laughter]
- Okay, "Potomac"--
who escalated
"The Great Salad Toss"
in Chesapeake Bay?
Candiace, for tossing
the first sprigs
and telling Mia
to finish it,
or Mia for tossing
the whole damn salad?
- But listen.
My little Candiace--
- Well, this is for Leslie.
- Oh! Oh, Leslie!
- Yes, but I do want to know
from Karen, too.
- I don't know that Karen knows
that I'm a Bravo historian.
I have to--
- Oh! Let me be quiet.
- No. I do-- I feel that
Candiace threw the first punch,
threw the first lettuce,
as it were.
And she really--
she was really, you know.
- Were you gonna
agree with that?
- I am, so I'll be quiet.
- Okay, there we go.
No, we're good.
- You are the historian.
- I think Mia
was defending herself.
- "Beverly Hills"--
reaction to Dorit
yelling at Garcelle
at the reunion.
- Not a good look. You gotta
regulate yourself.
- "Vanderpump Rules"--
in your heart of hearts,
did you feel that your
"Watch What Happens Live" buddy
Scheana Shay has
found the one in Brock?
- I really do.
I really want
her to, I do.
- Real Housewives
of Salt Lake City.
Thoughts on, um--
Well, listen, we've go--
what are you most excited to see
unfold regarding Jen Shah,
and thoughts on, um, we had
a very tense conversation,
uh, for Jenny tonight,
where her husband,
uh, said maybe they should have
a sister wife.
- That was intense,
and that was upsetting.
It was over oysters
and a martini.
That was maybe
a little too casual
of an environment
to bring that up.
Um, all of the Jen Shah
is what I'm excited for.
I mean, this is like
a Dateline on crack,
like, I'm so excited.
- Dateline on--
- There's so many layers, Andy.
Can I also just say
that I love Heather Gay?
I love her.
I really like her.
I think she's just genuine
and wonderful lady,
and I really enjoyed her.
- Thank you very much.
Um, let me see, uh,
read on the current status
of Mary's marriage.
- I think, uh, that there's
a lot of unusual things
happening in that marriage.
- After seeing Rinna
and Garcelle's kiss and make up
moment at the reunion,
do you buy that
that friendship has legs?
- I don't know if I buy that
that friendship has legs,
and I wish the best
for both of them,
because I adore
both ladies.
- Well, believe it or not,
but there are a few questions
for the Grand Dame
that are even too shady
for me to ask, so I invited
a few special guests,
who'd, frankly, attend
the opening of an envelope.
Karen, there are three
shady butterflies
lurking in this box,
ready to unleash
a cocoon of shade
in your direction.
- All right.
- Okay, what's
the first question?
- Whose business would you
rather invest in:
Robyn's Embellish Tats or
Gizelle's Every Hue Beauty?
- Oooh, Shady Butterfly.
- That is so shady,
because Every Hue
is gone.
[audience jeers]
- There you go.
Next question, butterfly.
- Butterfly needs to leave.
- Who from your cast
do you believe is Nicki Minaj's
least favorite?
- Oh, who did you walk away
from the reunion
thinking maybe Nicki was...
- I don't think Nicki was--
anyone was her least favorite.
She's just a real, real girl.
And so, she held
their feet to the fire,
so she lit other people a fire
that she didn't lit--
- Who were a couple
that she lit
that you were-- what--
- She turned Gizelle's ass--
[cheering]
She asked questions
that, you know,
normally, editing cuts,
and I ask those,
and they make the tape,
so I'm hoping
they keep that with Nicki.
- I think they'll be in there.
- So I love that,
and, um, I did love,
um, what was your next question,
I'm sorry?
- She had a long conversation
with Candiace about her music
that was interesting.
- She went for the juice
with Candiace, because
she is a no-nonsense
kind of businesswoman
about the music industry.
So she helped Candiace
accountable.
So stay tuned.
I did like how Candiace
finally pushed through.
- Okay, uh, okay, butterfly,
shady butterfly,
give me one more question.
- Whose fake booty
is better:
Wendy's or Mia's?
- That is so wrong, to see lem--
it depends on--
- They're your butterflies.
- Okay, okay.
It depends on
your appetite, like...
Wendy went for
the tiny booty.
Mia went for
the full booty.
So it just depends on
what your preference is--
[overlapping chatter]
and they're fake booties.
- Thank you,
Shady Butterflies.
[cheers and applause]
All right, when we come back,
we have more to come
with, uh, Karen and Leslie.
Here's who's coming up
this week.
We'll be right back.
**
- People wanna pay me
for my writing?
I'm like, uh,
I'm, like, someone now.
- Well, not if you murder me.
But I want more than just mercy.
Speed Racer is worth
more than that.
I want the source.
Someone is making those pills,
and I wanna meet them.
- Well, uh, I don't know
anything about that.
- You're such a ----ing
liar, Mickey.
- Oh yeah, that was
Leslie Grossman
in "American Horror Story:
Double Feature,"
available now
on FX and Hulu.
Welcome back to Watch
What Happens Live.
It's Andy Cohen
in the Bravo Clubhouse,
also joined by Real
Housewife of Potomac,
Karen Huger.
[cheers and applause]
Over at the bar,
it's someone whose book
is the ultimate
Housewives reunion,
it's the author of
"Not All Diamond and Rose,"
the-- "Diamonds and Rose:
The Inside Story
"Of the Real Housewives
From the People Who Lived It,"
out now, Dave Quinn.
Dave, great to see you.
You guys are gonna wanna get
this book, I'm tell--
Leslie, have you
read this yet?
- No, I just got it tonight.
- You're gonna leave
with a copy, because...
- I'm looking forward
to a five-hour airplane flight,
so I can just devour it.
- It's-It's great.
Drinking game reminder:
anytime you hear this word,
drink until you're starring
in "American Horror Story:
Doubled Over."
Let's go to our virtual fans.
Here's Sarah from Pennsylvania
with a question
for Karen Huger.
- Andy, um, I'm wearing
the Sonja by Sonja Morgan,
of course, with the tag on.
- Excellent, perfect.
- My question is
for the Grand Dame.
[indistinct] has apologized
for wishing death on Ray.
[indistinct] apologize
for saying [indistinct]
before she finds a man.
- I'm sorry, couldn't hear her.
- Should she--
should Ray apologize
for saying Gizelle's
looks will fade
before she finds a man?
- I think Ray and Gizelle
will have a private moment.
They are not enemies.
Gizelle and I
were enemies.
Ray is okay--
- By the way,
I should say it was super fun
seeing you and Gizelle
getting along
on this trip.
- It was fun.
- And I will also say,
Gizelle had some very nice
things to say about you
last time she was on
Watch What Happens Live.
I love kind of seeing this.
- Well, our relationship
is one that is full circle,
so we will get beyond
what we're going through, uh,
and we might come back to it
again, I'm just saying,
that's how we work.
- All right, Andy and
Aiden from Milwaukee
are up fork with
a question for Leslie.
Hey, fellas.
- Hey Andy, we love you.
- Hi.
- Uh, Karen, you're
our fav on Potomac.
But our question
is for Leslie.
- Leslie, what was your reaction
to Sarah Paulson
saying this was probably
gonna be her last season
on "American Horror Story"?
- My reaction is
it ain't over
'til it's over.
- Right.
- No one knows
what's gonna happen.
It may be, it may not be,
no-- year to year,
nobody has any idea
what's gonna go on.
Personally, do I want her
to be involved
in every iteration of that show
until it's over?
Of course, of course,
I think everybody does.
- Um, by the way,
we got a lot of questions
wanting to know
which real housewife
would you most like
to work with
on "American Horror Story"?
- I mean,
I'm a Bethenny stan,
you know that.
Love me a Bethenny.
- Um, Karen, Alex S. said
"On a scale of 1 to 10,
"how grossed out were you
when G creepily
stuck his tongue out
and licked his lips at you?
- You-you know what?
[laughing]
I wasn't expecting it,
but I know G has a good heart,
and I've gotten to know G
prior to filming.
The tongue rolling around,
I was like, okay.
blah-blah-blah-blah
to you, too.
[laughter]
- Um, and your thoughts
on seeing
the romantic scene
between Ashley
and Michael tonight?
- Um, I think it's lovely
that a couple is trying
to keep that spark
alive, post-baby.
- Okay, well Leslie filmed
"American Horror Story"
in P-town, but Karen
is the face of another
up and coming region
that's bound to be
the world's number one
gay travel destination...
- It is.
- Surry County.
So it's time for
these two to play
"Who's Taking a Tour With
the Surry County Ambassador?"
Karen, um, take these
Ramona eyes and head on over
to the greenscreen.
Leslie,
familiar faces are
gonna join Karen
on the Potomac--
no, no, take them off,
and then go up to
the greenscreen,
and then put them on, okay?
- Prava god.
- Am I gonna stay
seated for this?
- Leslie, stay seated.
Sit here, yeah-yeah-yeah.
You'll-you'll stand there.
Um, Leslie, familiar faces
will be joining Karen--
- Got it.
- At the Potomac playground,
where she shot her
Surry County tourism video.
You will have to
give her clues
to guess who's standing
next to her, if she can do--
- Is it-- they're
coming up here?
- Yes.
- Okay.
- If she can ID
seven in 60 seconds--
- Oh my god!
- You both win.
- So nervous! Okay!
We're gonna have fun, Karen.
- Okay, okay.
- Yeah, yeah.
Seven in 60 seconds, go!
- Okay, oh!
Uh, cohost of "The View!"
You're in danger,
girl! "Ghost!"
Uh, EGOT! Has won an Oscar,
a Tony-- Karen!
- What is this about?
I can't see sh--.
- She's the cohost
of "The View!"
- She's a--
- Oh, is it Garcelle?
- No! The cohost of "The View!"
- Who am I standing by?!
- That's the reel!
- Very famous--
- Oh, I'm so sorry. I meant--
- Famous actress, very--
oh, we're already
doing terribly!
- She's on "The View!"
- I have no idea, Andy!
- Go to the next one!
Go to the next one!
- And I can't see anything!
- Pass! Turtle time!
New York Housewife!
Come on!
You're wearing her eyes!
- I don't really follow you.
- Andy!
[cheering and applause]
- Okay, all right.
Okay, go to the next one.
- Go to the next,
what's the next?
Okay, uh, was--
helped invent the vaccine,
and crazy people think that--
- Your husband is
the black version of him.
- Thank you, there you go.
Thank you, sorry.
- Mmm, Gates.
- Yes! Wow, she got one.
- Thank you, sorry.
Oh, table-flipper,
New Jersey!
- Oh, Teresa.
- There you go.
- Okay.
- Oh, tongue!
We just talked about him.
- Is that Ray and I?
- No, the tongue.
- Rolling his tongue
in his mouth!
- Oh, G!
- There you go.
- Yes.
- G.
- Okay.
- Not Ray and I.
- Wait! Married to
Meghan Markle!
- Oh!
[buzzer]
- Okay, I-I gotta tell you.
- Wow.
That was rough. Um--
[laughter]
Okay, come on back over,
and sit down.
[laughing]
You got three.
[cheering and applause]
- That was very good TV,
though, damn it.
[laughing]
- Do you not know
who Whoopi Goldberg, like--
- I do! I do!
But I, you know--
- Do you not watch "The View?"
- It's not fair, Andy.
It's not fair,
because you just
sent me to the real,
and I'm on the real high,
so I can't say much about it.
- Oh, okay.
- So I'm in the real world,
not "The View" world,
so "The View," I love you.
So sorry.
- Okay.
More with these two
when we come back,
and a special
Watch What Happens Five
that's just for Karen.
We'll be right back.
[cheering and applause]
* AC in the NYC *
* NYC AC *
[cheering and applause]
- All right,
welcome back to
"Watch What Happens Live."
It's Andy, here with Karen,
Leslie, and Dave behind the bar.
[cheering and applause]
Karen, do people
not realize
that peanuts come
in shells, often?
- Listen, I'm a very
understanding woman.
- Okay,
- And most times, they don't.
Most people think that,
you know, look--
you don't know what's
in a hull, hello. Okay?
- You don't know
what's in a hole?
- No, no, Andy,
not a hole, a hull.
There's a hull. You call it
the hull of the peanut.
See, you're learning something.
Come with me.
- Oh, the hull of the peanut.
- It's the hull.
So you open it,
and then most people roast it,
and that's what most
consumers buy,
without the peanut
being in the hull,
or the shell.
- In the shell.
- Thank you, Andy.
- Okay, is--
You comin' to Surry, Andy?
- Yes, I would--
yes, I would love to
come to Surry and try--
- You're invited.
- Some of your famous
Surry peanuts.
- You need it, yeah.
- Uh, LiveLoveSimone
wants to know,
for both of you,
if you would pay
$50 for a one-wick candle?
Wendy's candle is
for sale for $45.95.
Leslie Grossman, you live
a fancy Beverly Hills lifestyle.
- I like to support
female entrepreneurs,
so yes, I would.
- I'm gonna support
Wendy, absolutely.
- Yes. How much is
your three-wick?
- See, Andy,
you gonna do that--
[laughing]
Listen, I say, when everybody
tries to compare Wendy and I,
this is what I say.
Look, you don't
wanna compete with me,
'cause I want her
to win, too.
- Okay.
- Okay, so, uh...
I'm not gonna tell you
the price of my candle!
[laughing]
- I think a three-wick is chic,
I think it's chic.
- Three-wick is chic,
and it is $50 value.
- Oh, so you're selling your--
- So, I think--
I think-- look, Wendy is new.
- Three-wick for $50?
- I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
I didn't say that,
I just said--
- You said it's
a $50 value.
- It is.
- Okay.
- It is.
- Um, Leslie,
uh, Faye I. said on
a scale of 1 to 10,
how much do you think
Salt Lake newbie Angie
looks like your friend
and costar Sarah Paulson?
- 10!
- Have you spoken to Sarah--
- We have discussed this.
- You have!
- Yes, we have. There is
a definite similarity there.
- Wow, interesting.
- Yeah. Mm-hmm.
- Okay, it is time for
Watch What Happens Five.
At 25 years in the game
and counting, it is--
thank you. It is clear
that Karen and--
let's do that again.
[laughing]
- Ugh! Sanji!
Oh, it's done.
Um, it is clear that, uh,
Karen and Ray Huger's marriage
is steeped in love,
even if Karen's never
heard of teabagging.
So Karen, here is
a vow renewal gift
from me to you.
It is your husband, Ray,
counting down
the top five reasons--
top five things he loves
about you, Karen Huger.
- Oh, thank you! Oh!
- Take a look right here.
- Wha?
- Five reasons why
I love my wife, Karen Huger.
She's very funny,
and fun to be with.
The way she...
handles herself
and dealt with
the tremendous loss
of both parents
within a few months
of each other.
She's a-- turned into
a tremendous, uh,
serious businesswoman
and entrepreneur.
She's really put in
the time and energy
to stay fit and keep
herself in shape,
and maintain her beauty.
And the number one reason...
why I love
Karen Huger,
is for the love
she's shown me,
and our children,
the family, our friends,
and the various charities
that she has participated in
over the years.
- Oh...
- That is so lovely!
[cheering and applause]
- Thank you.
Oh my god, Andy!
That was-- okay.
- That's-- that was
a real surprise for you.
- That-that
really is, um,
our-our relationship
is real, I love him,
he's the most beautiful
human being I know.
His spirit is the milk
of human kindness.
- The milk of human kindness!
- No, Ray is phenomenal.
- That's so lovely.
- Thank you.
- Yes, of course.
All right.
And that's why this marriage
is an institution, folks.
I wanna thank Karen,
and Leslie, and Dave.
Word of the night
was "butterflies."
We said it 12 times.
If you've been playing
our drinking game, no driving.
See you tomorrow
night at 10:00
after the "Below Deck" premiere.
We're going to Twitter live
for the aftershow.
[cheering and applause]
**