1 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,560 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 2 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,840 Hello, thank you very much. Thank you, thank you. 3 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,160 Thank you so much. You're very kind. Thank you all for coming, 4 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,640 and, of course, thank you for tuning in at home. 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,480 Good evening, everyone. Welcome to The Jonathan Ross Show. 6 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:36,760 Now, tomorrow sees the start of the World Cup in Qatar, of course. 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,600 Football as it's meant to be played, 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,600 in 30-degrees heat in November in a desert. 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,840 Who planned this World Cup? Liz Truss? 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,640 LAUGHTER I mean, it's a... 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,840 Shall we start by saying who's on the show tonight? 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,240 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE OK. 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,920 He's the biggest thing to come out of Southampton since The Titanic. 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,480 It's the king of British garage and R&B, 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,720 Craig David, ladies and gentlemen! Craig, how lovely to have you back. 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,800 She's Canadian comedy royalty. 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,280 It's the delightfully uncompromising and very, very funny Katherine Ryan. 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,760 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Lovely to have you, Katherine. 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,440 One of the stars of Strictly Come Dancing, 20 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,440 also Dancing On Ice, The Greatest Dancer, 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,720 and Let's Dance - I think you see there's a theme there. 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,320 It's the wonderful Oti Mabuse! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,720 Oti. 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,200 Also with us this evening, an American acting legend 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,400 who you know most recently from Stranger Things. 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,600 It's Papa himself - Matthew Modine! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,760 Papa. 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,160 Plus we have a rising star of stand-up, 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,360 who took this year's Edinburgh Festival by storm. 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,080 I'm delighted he's on the show. The hilarious Josh Jones! 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,640 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Hi! 32 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,440 And as if that weren't enough, we've got great music tonight. 33 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,880 It's a bad that are fresh from their number one debut album. 34 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,120 They've had five Grammy nominations. 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,200 I love them, I love their music, I love their name. It's Wet Leg! 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,360 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,280 Wet Leg in all their glory. OK, so, just before that, 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,600 a video that's captured everyone's attention this week. 39 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,920 I dunno if you've seen it. If you haven't, you'll enjoy it. 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,120 It's a Kenyan newsreader who is trying to do a live broadcast 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,760 under some very difficult circumstances. Take a look at this. 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,960 Human actions are destroying habitats, 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,680 decimating our entire ecosystem, and disrupting the circle of life. 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,440 And with the rise in drought cases, 45 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,840 it is up to us to be guardians of our own natural world, 46 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,800 save our wild species, and provide a home... 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,320 HE LAUGHS 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,520 APPLAUSE 49 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Shall we get my first guests out, ladies and gentlemen? 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,960 Why don't we? Here they are, it's Oti Mabuse and Katherine Ryan. 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,240 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 52 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,560 Oti! There's food now! 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,880 Hello! Great to see you. 54 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,680 Hello. Lovely to see you. 55 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,280 Hi. Wow! Look at the sparkle! 56 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,320 This is proper glam this evening. 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,880 We have coordinated. We have. 58 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,760 You look amazing, both of you. Thank you. 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,640 I've worked with you both of you, and I love it working with you. 60 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:13,000 You're both lovely to work with. 61 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,520 But I notice, obviously, you being a professional dancer, 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,800 and I've done this, people often do ask you 63 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,400 to show them a couple of moves, to do something... Oh, my gosh. 64 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,720 Does that happen all the time? 65 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,760 People always want you to dance when they meet you? 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,240 Yes. The worst is when I'm drunk, and they're drunk, too, 67 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,640 and we're in Ibiza. That is... 68 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:34,400 When you're, like... wavy! Yeah. 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,440 How wavy do you get, Oti? Like... 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,480 SHE CHUCKLES 71 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,240 Like... Like a tidal wave! Yeah. 72 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,280 And the tide, and they're like, 73 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,120 "Come on, Oti! Dance a little bit for us!" 74 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,320 And I just go, "No!" No. 75 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,280 That's it because, like, I'm not myself, you know? 76 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,000 So you don't do it? No. So you don't... 77 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,280 But you do it when you're sober? 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,720 No. LAUGHTER 79 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,360 I don't do it! I just... 80 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,280 I just smile at you, but my smile kind of goes, "No." 81 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,320 But you showed me some dance moves last time we met. 82 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,080 You were very generous. Yes! Shall we do it again? No! 83 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Ladies and gentlemen, Jonathan Ross is gonna twerk for us! 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,400 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Yeah! 85 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,000 No. I think you really don't want to see that. 86 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,160 I do. I do. 87 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,160 You kind of... You know, you've kind of seen it already. 88 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,080 RHYTHMIC CLAPPING Jonathan, Jonathan! 89 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,080 AUDIENCE: Jonathan, Jonathan, Jonathan! 90 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Yay! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 91 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,720 OK. Was that... was that good? That was very good. 92 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 But you showed me some proper dance routine moves like this. 93 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,720 Oh, yes, we did... And it's really quite unpleasant, dancing. 94 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,160 What do you mean? The way you do it. 95 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,040 Because it's not fun. You were... You were... bullying, 96 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,480 you were, I would say, quite aggressive. 97 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,720 I would say I was very open, I was very honest, and I was very strict. 98 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,920 Yeah, that's the... And I wanted what I wanted, 99 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,120 and you gave me what I wanted, and you looked good. 100 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,360 But, no, because it's very uncomfortable, those dances, 101 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,920 and you watch Strictly and think, "Don't they look beautiful? 102 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,080 "Doesn't it look elegant?" 103 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,520 But you realise they're probably screaming in pain 104 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,000 because the arms have to go where they shouldn't be long, 105 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,160 and it's all that weird... 106 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,840 The stomach in, and the chest in, as well. 107 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:04,680 Yes, and then we have professional dancers. 108 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,760 We have this talent 109 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,040 where we actually can speak without moving our mouths, 110 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,920 so we go "Smile!" 111 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,120 Yeah. "Look like you're enjoying it!" 112 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,560 Wow! But, yeah. Why do you think so smiley? 113 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,440 I'm, like, shouting at them all the time. 114 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,000 If you do that again, smile, and we have Katherine speaking, 115 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,480 that would work just as well. It's like a ventriloquist act. 116 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,560 I can do it, too. Smile! Looks like you're enjoying yourself! 117 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,800 I use it during sex. LAUGHTER 118 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,120 Katherine, you've got another baby on the way... 119 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,400 Yeah. ..so congratulations. 120 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,600 This is your third? Thank you. APPLAUSE 121 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,560 I'm the sacred vessel. 122 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,400 LAUGHTER And, so, third baby. 123 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,240 You're ready for it, you've got the house ready, you're all sorted, 124 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,080 and I believe you're thinking of having the baby at home? 125 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,640 Oh, yeah. I was born ready, Jonathan, 126 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,200 and I'm very good at having babies quickly. 127 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,440 Too good. I nearly had my 13-year-old daughter in a minicab, 128 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,000 which young people won't know. 129 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,560 It's like Uber without a satnav, 130 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,280 without a steering wheel, or a CRB check. 131 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:01,280 It's a random vehicle driven by a local criminal. 132 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:03,320 Yeah. LAUGHTER 133 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,280 And then... 134 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:07,600 for my son Fred, who's 17 months now, 135 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,240 we booked in at this fancy London hospital, 136 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,080 where Princess Diana had her babies, 137 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,600 where Kate Middleton had her babies... I know the one. 138 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,200 ..where Meghan Markle could have had her babies, but she didn't. 139 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,960 Yes. LAUGHTER 140 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,840 She was busy booking 15 interviews about privacy that day. So, then... 141 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:24,600 AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS AND LAUGHS 142 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,200 I like her a lot! I like her a lot. 143 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,840 Yeah. But, erm... 144 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:32,600 I booked in there, but in the end, 145 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,120 the baby came so quickly that he was nearly born in the car. 146 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,680 My husband nearly had to deliver him. 147 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,600 We were only at the hospital for nine minutes. 148 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,160 So, really, then... No. Yeah. 149 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,920 ..you might as well have it at home. So I might as well have it at home. 150 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,840 But my husband's not as completely on board. 151 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:47,160 Like, he's a little bit squeamish, and I've told him, 152 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,440 "I can talk you through it. It's gonna be fine." 153 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,880 LAUGHTER Katherine's got a book out. 154 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,320 It came out a while ago, but it's just out now in paperback. 155 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,560 If you haven't seen it or read it, it's a fabulous read 156 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,840 because I think you're genuinely very gifted, 157 00:06:58,840 --> 00:07:00,360 very funny, very talented writer. 158 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,680 It's called The Audacity, 159 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,880 and it's kind of about you and about your life, 160 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,560 without being an autobiography as such. 161 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,640 Mm-hm. Yeah, it's sort of a guide to live your life audaciously, 162 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,000 peacefully, with gratitude and kindness, 163 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,400 but not to really focus too much on what other people think 164 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,440 cos sometimes, too much is just enough. 165 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,760 And is that how people are with you? They think that too much is enough, 166 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,800 or do they sometimes think too much is too much? 167 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,440 I think people feel that too much is too much with me, 168 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,520 but that could be a cultural misunderstanding. 169 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,200 I'm with you. Yeah. 170 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,480 You think it's your Canadian-ness? 171 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,200 I think so, because I'm very kind, but I'm straightforward. 172 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,720 I don't beat around the bush. 173 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,400 You know how you guys just like to talk about the weather, and... 174 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,280 if you don't like someone, you're still polite to them, 175 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,800 like, everyone's like, "Welcome, Matt Hancock." All right. 176 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,240 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE 177 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,800 APPLAUSE 178 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,560 D'you know what I mean? Yeah. Like... 179 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,000 There is that. I love the... 180 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,840 You talk about your childhood in there a lot, growing up in Canada, 181 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,120 and you were teased a bit when you were younger for your appearance. 182 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:04,360 Yeah. I was... I was odd in both behaviour and in looks. 183 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,560 I was very awkward-looking, and then, also, 184 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,640 I had orthodontics where my jaw was pushed out, 185 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,440 so I had a massive gap between my teeth, 186 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,520 and my parents were very humble and frugal, 187 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,200 and my mum had already purchased 188 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,720 my new autumn jacket to start high school, 189 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,000 but it was from The Gap, 190 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,640 and it said "Gap" in branding across the back. 191 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,560 So you had a gap at the front and a gap at the back? Yeah. Aw! 192 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,800 It was, like, a bull's-eye, and this is back when bullying was cool. 193 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,080 LAUGHTER 194 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,040 So I had a hard time, but it was very formative. 195 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,440 Did you have a nickname at school? 196 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,640 Did they give you a nickname, unkind or otherwise? 197 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,840 They were very creative. The Gap. OK. OK. 198 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,720 They'd be so nasty, like, "Oh, do you floss with a brick?" 199 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,800 Stuff like that. 200 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,120 That was a pretty good joke, actually, a good gag. 201 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,600 I'll remember that for later. What I like is you said that, 202 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,800 and a lot of people just laughed at it. Yeah. 203 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,560 You know what is... In a very different way, 204 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:55,800 Oti's been looking back at her childhood recently, 205 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,600 because Oti has a documentary called Oti Mabuse: My South Africa. 206 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,080 It's on iPlayer now, so you can watch it now, 207 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,760 and this was you journeying back to the place of your childhood? 208 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,000 Yes, so, this is basically me going back to South Africa. 209 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,520 I think a lot of the time with Strictly professionals, 210 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,360 people see us, and it's all glamorous, 211 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,920 and we're teaching celebs, and then we're giving our hardest, 212 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,040 we're working ten to ten, but people don't really know where we're from, 213 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,480 and I was really lucky that the BBC were like, 214 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,320 "We wanna know your story because it sounds incredible." 215 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,600 And so we went on a journey of going back to South Africa, 216 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,600 and because of lockdown and everything, 217 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,520 I hadn't been home in about three years, 218 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,840 so it was me seeing South Africa as the new South Africa. 219 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,000 Had things changed? Were things worse? Were things... 220 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,560 difficult still? 221 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:47,160 And we touch, of course, on Apartheid. 222 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Apartheid ended just before you were born, 223 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,760 but the effects would've still been there. 224 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,960 No, it ended after I was born. After you were born? 225 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,440 Yes. So, I was born in 1990, and Mandela was released in 1990, 226 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,760 and then Apartheid ended in 1994. 227 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,280 And so the effects were everywhere still, I guess? 228 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,760 Yeah, well, so, we thought, I guess, because of the dancing, 229 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,120 we felt really protected. 230 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,320 So, my mum was trying to keep us off of the street, 231 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,760 make sure that we weren't running away with the boys, 232 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,560 or, like, into drugs or anything like that, 233 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:17,520 so she gave us the dance school, which was our safety net. 234 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,160 This is a really lovely clip, I think, 235 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,960 cos this is you with your mum... Oh, yeah. 236 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,480 ..going back to where you first started learning to dance. 237 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,000 Oh, yeah. Lovely clip. Look at this. 238 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,800 When I think where I'm dancing today, 239 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,280 in front of millions and thousands of people. 240 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,560 These tiles used to move. 241 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:40,920 They would move when you did a cha-cha. 242 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,480 They would move when you did a jive. 243 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,240 And there was dust, and we'd have to be sweep before and after. 244 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,880 Let's do it together. 245 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Stomach in, chest out. 246 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:50,920 Yeah... Yeah! THEY LAUGH 247 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,680 As much as we can pull our stomachs in! 248 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:56,560 And then, one, two, three, cha-cha. 249 00:10:56,560 --> 00:10:58,560 One, two, three, cha-cha. 250 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:00,080 Who is the girl, who's the boy? 251 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,120 It doesn't matter. Yeah. 252 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,120 It doesn't matter. Fine, fine, I'm going. 253 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,080 Yay. 254 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,280 Ay! Other way! 255 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,240 Hey! Spot turn, hey-up! Ay! 256 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,560 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Your mum knows all the moves. 257 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:18,080 Yes, she does. She's so sweet. 258 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,400 She's never, ever danced before, but she loved it so much 259 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,680 that she put us into it 260 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:25,000 and she got people from outside all over 261 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,640 to come in and train us. 262 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,880 You can see, halfway through the clip, 263 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,440 she gets bored and she hates TV. She's literally like, 264 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,080 "Why am I here? Stop making me dance." 265 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,160 She must love your success, and Motsi's success, on television. 266 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,920 Yes, she does, very, very much so. 267 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,280 I think, even now, I did a tour, 268 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,800 and she actually, for the first time, 269 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,080 got to see give the reaction because everything she sees 270 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,480 has always been on social media, 271 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,680 but for the first time, she saw it, and I went, 272 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:51,480 "Ladies and gentlemen, my mum's in the house." 273 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,840 Everybody stood up and she was just like, "Yes!" 274 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,120 LAUGHTER 275 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,640 "I am her. I have created all of this." 276 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,800 And she would walk on, she'd just walk out like this. 277 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,040 Like a queen. Like, "Yes, I'll take your photo, 278 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,120 "yes, I'll sign your autograph." She loved it. She loved it. 279 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,040 How was she, when you were on Strictly, 280 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,440 if Motsi marked you down or gave you bad marks, 281 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,680 did she side with one sister or the other, 282 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:14,880 or did she stay out of it all? 283 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,120 She did not stay out of it. She's very protective. 284 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,440 When Motsi and I were still on the show... 285 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,000 I mean, the first two years was great. 286 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,280 You know, I was really lucky. 287 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,240 Bill was amazing. He turned it round. 288 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,880 The last one didn't go so well. 289 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,800 She goes, "Who are these judges? What do they know?" 290 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,520 But one of the judges was Motsi. It's my sister! It was Motsi. 291 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,960 It was like, "Mum, what are you talking about?" 292 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,000 She's like, "These judges don't know what they're talking about. 293 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,840 Motsi and I would laugh. She's like, "I went from 294 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,880 "the first-born daughter to "these judges"." 295 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,800 And she got really, really upset, she got emotional, 296 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,360 and I kept writing to Motsi, 297 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,360 "I don't think you should come for Christmas. 298 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,160 "Or if you are, I think you're sleeping outside this year." 299 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,720 Literally, I had so much fun making jokes about it. 300 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,560 It just occurred to me, you would be a natural for Strictly 301 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:02,200 because you already bring the Glam. 302 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,040 I have known Katherine for eight years. 303 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,600 I can imagine you'd be great on it. 304 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,760 I ask her every year. I don't think that I can do it. 305 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Really? Cheat on my husband? 306 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,200 I love him. 307 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,240 LAUGHTER 308 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,400 I love him. 309 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,760 APPLAUSE 310 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:20,400 I catch too easy. 311 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,080 OK, yeah, yeah, OK. That's a very good answer. 312 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,480 One final thing before we move on. 313 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,000 Who do you think's gonna win this year? Oh, don't do that. 314 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,200 I've gotta ask it. The thing is, everyone asks me. 315 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,960 The thing is, the professionals are my friends, so if I name someone, 316 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,320 you know my WhatsApp is gonna go mad. 317 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,560 Yeah, but someone's got a win. 318 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:37,320 Someone's gotta win. I don't have to vote. 319 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,600 But which one of your friends do you think will win? 320 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,360 I have three. I have three options. 321 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,600 I think either Hamza, Tyler or Fleur. 322 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,840 OK, and of those three? 323 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,440 LAUGHTER I would say rank them, 324 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,040 but that sounds wrong coming from me. 325 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,680 LAUGHTER 326 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:55,960 If you had to... 327 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,800 If you had to put them in an order... 328 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,560 APPLAUSE 329 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:01,760 If you had to put them in some kind of an order. 330 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,440 Ahh! I'll go... 331 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,640 You're so bad! Why you do this to me? 332 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,840 You always do this to me, and you know what's gonna happen. 333 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,720 I'm the one gonna get into trouble, you know? 334 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,520 I'm starting my career. How do you...? 335 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,880 LAUGHTER 336 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,320 Well, I'm finishing mine! I wanna go out with a bang. 337 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,840 The winner for Strictly this year will be... 338 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,880 Um... 339 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,040 I'm gonna say either Tyler or Hamza. 340 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,800 OK, and of those two... 341 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,320 No! 342 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,840 Who do you think's most shit? 343 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,400 LAUGHTER 344 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,240 We'll give you the answer after the break! 345 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,960 Don't go away, because up next, we'll be joined by Craig David. 346 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,360 See you in a couple of minutes. 347 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,400 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 348 00:14:44,470 --> 00:14:44,950 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 349 00:14:47,590 --> 00:14:49,430 Welcome back to the show, everyone. 350 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:53,150 Let's get my next guest out. He is an R&B MBE, 351 00:14:53,150 --> 00:14:54,950 it's the one and only Craig David. 352 00:14:54,950 --> 00:14:56,790 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 353 00:15:07,750 --> 00:15:08,830 Hello! 354 00:15:08,830 --> 00:15:12,030 Hello. Hello, how are you? 355 00:15:12,030 --> 00:15:13,670 You OK? Yes, I'm good. 356 00:15:13,670 --> 00:15:15,590 Good to see you, Craig. Good to see you, man. 357 00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:17,390 How are you, Craig? You're looking great. 358 00:15:17,390 --> 00:15:20,110 Really well, thank you, man. Earlier this year, you performed 359 00:15:20,110 --> 00:15:22,910 at the Queen's Platinum Jubilee celebration. 360 00:15:22,910 --> 00:15:24,230 Yeah. Big honour. 361 00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:25,350 It was amazing. 362 00:15:25,350 --> 00:15:27,670 Great performance and, presumably, you got to meet some, 363 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:29,870 if not all, of the Royals who were there afterwards. 364 00:15:29,870 --> 00:15:32,510 Yeah, it was a really special moment 365 00:15:32,510 --> 00:15:34,710 because we got to go to Buckingham Palace after. 366 00:15:34,710 --> 00:15:36,910 We performed in front of it, but we were able to go to... 367 00:15:36,910 --> 00:15:40,190 Inside the palace? Yeah, a little soiree they had in there. 368 00:15:40,190 --> 00:15:42,830 I was with my mum, which was the most important thing. 369 00:15:42,830 --> 00:15:46,310 To be with my mum, walking into Buckingham Palace. 370 00:15:46,310 --> 00:15:50,030 And the place where I grew up was a place called Holyrood Estate. 371 00:15:50,030 --> 00:15:52,950 And the block of flats was called Queen's House. 372 00:15:52,950 --> 00:15:55,510 So, she's grabbing my hand and she's squeezing it tightly. 373 00:15:55,510 --> 00:15:58,230 She's looking around, and I can tell what she was gonna say. 374 00:15:58,230 --> 00:16:00,790 "We're in the Queen's house. We're in the Queen's house." 375 00:16:00,790 --> 00:16:03,270 I'm like, "Yeah, we're in the Queen's house!" 376 00:16:03,270 --> 00:16:07,670 And as she did it, Prince William walks over, and I'm like... 377 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:10,510 He comes in for the handshake, and I'm like, 378 00:16:10,510 --> 00:16:14,270 "It's great to see you." And he said, "Look, George, my son, 379 00:16:14,270 --> 00:16:17,030 "was going crazy over the blue sequined outfit you were wearing." 380 00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:18,950 It was quite some outfit you were wearing. 381 00:16:18,950 --> 00:16:21,670 I don't know where you shop for... but that's amazing. 382 00:16:21,670 --> 00:16:24,310 But my mum was there. 383 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:25,910 Firstly, I said, "Lovely to meet you. 384 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:27,510 "Love that George liked the outfit." 385 00:16:27,510 --> 00:16:29,350 I said, "Mum, this is Prince William. 386 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:31,350 "Prince William, this is my mum." 387 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:33,150 That moment, for me, as a son, 388 00:16:33,150 --> 00:16:36,390 was probably THE most incredible moment that I've ever had. 389 00:16:36,390 --> 00:16:38,790 For my mum to be in Buckingham Palace, 390 00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:41,270 meet Prince William, and then Kate comes over, 391 00:16:41,270 --> 00:16:42,550 and it's the same thing again. 392 00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:44,870 It was just, like, yeah, a very memorable moment. 393 00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:46,390 Looking back at that outfit, 394 00:16:46,390 --> 00:16:47,990 I'm thinking you were someone who knows 395 00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:49,390 how to have a good time. Mm-hm. 396 00:16:49,390 --> 00:16:52,310 I'm imagining you're someone who knows how to throw a good party. 397 00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:54,670 I'm thinking about your Miami years in particular. 398 00:16:54,670 --> 00:16:56,110 What was the wildest party? 399 00:16:56,110 --> 00:16:58,310 What was the wildest night you had there? 400 00:16:58,310 --> 00:17:00,310 Describe for us a Craig David party 401 00:17:00,310 --> 00:17:03,030 back in the peak of when you were a party animal. 402 00:17:03,030 --> 00:17:05,230 I was just the hostess with the mostest. 403 00:17:05,230 --> 00:17:07,030 So, I'd have the drinks on tap, 404 00:17:07,030 --> 00:17:09,630 I bought in food and catering for everyone. 405 00:17:09,630 --> 00:17:12,910 Literally, I was the hostess with the mostest. 406 00:17:12,910 --> 00:17:14,470 I was DJing, I was playing tunes. 407 00:17:14,470 --> 00:17:16,190 What kind of people would you play host to? 408 00:17:16,190 --> 00:17:18,910 Drop some famous names for us. Everybody's welcome to your house? 409 00:17:18,910 --> 00:17:20,910 Do you know what? Did you have portaloos, 410 00:17:20,910 --> 00:17:22,910 or did you allow them to use your house toilet? 411 00:17:22,910 --> 00:17:24,910 LAUGHTER Everyone? 412 00:17:24,910 --> 00:17:27,910 I let people... It started to turn into a bit of a guestlist, 413 00:17:27,910 --> 00:17:30,310 had to kind of go down, not that I wanted there to be one. 414 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:32,990 So, it was all comers at one stage? People were starting to rock up. 415 00:17:32,990 --> 00:17:34,550 Cos it was in the Mondrian Hotel, 416 00:17:34,550 --> 00:17:36,430 so people would just rock up randomly. 417 00:17:36,430 --> 00:17:39,390 Like, "Yo, I hear the music coming through, can we come through?" 418 00:17:39,390 --> 00:17:41,390 I wouldn't have the front to do that. 419 00:17:41,390 --> 00:17:43,670 I wouldn't gate-crash someone's party. 420 00:17:43,670 --> 00:17:46,270 Trust me, in Miami, they would gate-crash your whole situation. 421 00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:48,270 And they'll take your TV off the wall, straight. 422 00:17:48,270 --> 00:17:49,590 But you must lose stuff. 423 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:51,470 If you have uninvited guests - 424 00:17:51,470 --> 00:17:55,190 or even some of the people I know who are friends are thieves - 425 00:17:55,190 --> 00:17:57,070 you must have lost stuff. 426 00:17:57,070 --> 00:17:58,790 Yeah, do you know what it was? 427 00:17:58,790 --> 00:18:01,550 I've always been a big thing of, like, the karma will come round. 428 00:18:01,550 --> 00:18:04,030 So if you want to try rip the TV off the wall... 429 00:18:04,030 --> 00:18:06,310 Not that you can really get away with that one. 430 00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:07,950 By all means, do what you need to do here. 431 00:18:07,950 --> 00:18:09,990 Cos I think that when you try monitor everyone 432 00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:11,990 and check if someone is doing something, 433 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:13,350 you end up not having a great time. 434 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:15,190 I've got to keep them out of my bedroom 435 00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:16,990 cos I've got my lucky pants in that drawer. 436 00:18:16,990 --> 00:18:19,430 I don't want to lose them. You know the ones. The orange ones. 437 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:21,790 With the number one on them? 438 00:18:21,790 --> 00:18:24,030 But you lived that life about as fully 439 00:18:24,030 --> 00:18:25,950 as someone could, didn't you? 440 00:18:25,950 --> 00:18:29,510 And then you found it not enough, didn't you? 441 00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:33,190 Yeah, it just felt it was played out. 442 00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:36,270 For the dream of what it was of going out to Miami, 443 00:18:36,270 --> 00:18:38,790 the palm trees and the beautiful sand, 444 00:18:38,790 --> 00:18:40,710 the bikini-clad women, the whole thing. 445 00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:43,110 Literally, it was just, like, Miami. Let's be here. 446 00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:44,750 And it just got super played. 447 00:18:44,750 --> 00:18:47,190 I just felt a million miles away from home. 448 00:18:47,190 --> 00:18:52,070 But also, it was just I'd come from such a humble background, 449 00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:56,350 growing up in Holyrood Estate with my friends close to me, 450 00:18:56,350 --> 00:18:59,350 with my mum and my grandma, predominantly, raising me, 451 00:18:59,350 --> 00:19:01,030 being close to the music and the culture 452 00:19:01,030 --> 00:19:03,990 that was happening in this country, so when I was over there, 453 00:19:03,990 --> 00:19:06,230 I just felt like it was a complete juxtaposition. 454 00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:08,190 I've got the Ferrari, I've got the apartment, 455 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:09,750 I'm throwing the house parties, 456 00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:13,510 but also, I noticed that people would use and abuse that. 457 00:19:13,510 --> 00:19:15,430 It wasn't, like, really close friends. 458 00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:18,470 It was like, "We'll rock up when it's a Friday night." 459 00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:19,950 But you call them to help you out 460 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:22,350 if you're on the motorway - or I95 out there - 461 00:19:22,350 --> 00:19:24,550 I'm not hearing anyone pick up the phone. 462 00:19:24,550 --> 00:19:27,190 You're pulling up in the lay-by cos you've just broken down, 463 00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:30,310 you're not really picking up, but TS5 Party, "We are there!" 464 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:32,950 So, really, they were fair-weather friends. 465 00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:34,230 Fair-weather friends. 466 00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:38,190 It's good to know that even Ferraris can be unreliable on the motorway. 467 00:19:38,190 --> 00:19:39,830 In the book, this is Craig's book, 468 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:42,030 ladies and gentlemen, it's just out now, it's called 469 00:19:42,030 --> 00:19:44,270 What's Your Vibe? Tuning Into Your Best Life. 470 00:19:44,270 --> 00:19:46,150 It is about, if you don't mind me paraphrasing, 471 00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:47,710 finding some sort of truth 472 00:19:47,710 --> 00:19:50,190 and finding out some sort of way of living... 473 00:19:50,190 --> 00:19:52,910 Totally. ..which means something which isn't hollow. 474 00:19:52,910 --> 00:19:56,630 And in here, you talk about one specific party that you'd thrown, 475 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:58,830 when you realised it wasn't satisfying. 476 00:19:58,830 --> 00:20:03,070 Yeah, actually, talking about the Ferrari, 477 00:20:03,070 --> 00:20:05,910 I had a moment where... 478 00:20:05,910 --> 00:20:08,310 It was just a realisation for me 479 00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:11,470 where I had taken a girlfriend at the time 480 00:20:11,470 --> 00:20:13,670 over to a restaurant we were going to. 481 00:20:13,670 --> 00:20:14,670 Meeting some friends, 482 00:20:14,670 --> 00:20:16,470 it was a first date that was going on. 483 00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:18,750 Had a lovely meal at this place called Prime 112. 484 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:20,670 Had a good meal, came back to the car 485 00:20:20,670 --> 00:20:22,870 that was parked outside cos you've got the Ferrari. 486 00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:25,070 It's got to be outside! We know you've got a Ferrari, OK? 487 00:20:25,070 --> 00:20:26,590 We know you had a Ferrari. LAUGHTER 488 00:20:26,590 --> 00:20:28,510 Genuinely, we got to let it be known. 489 00:20:28,510 --> 00:20:30,430 Because it's the juxtaposition. 490 00:20:30,430 --> 00:20:32,350 Well, anyway, listen, jump forward, 491 00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:35,190 I've had this lovely meal, get back into the car... 492 00:20:36,550 --> 00:20:39,070 ..thinking I'm the guy, turn on the car, 493 00:20:39,070 --> 00:20:41,390 I'm hearing... MIMICS ENGINE STALLING 494 00:20:41,390 --> 00:20:43,670 I'm like, "What the hell's going on? This is not the one." 495 00:20:43,670 --> 00:20:45,870 So I said to my friends, "Listen, are you cool to go on?" 496 00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:47,790 We're going to a club after this, so I said, 497 00:20:47,790 --> 00:20:50,150 "You cool going with my friends? I'll meet you there after. 498 00:20:50,150 --> 00:20:52,470 "There's something going on here. A little situation." 499 00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:54,430 She's like, "It's fine, don't worry." 500 00:20:54,430 --> 00:20:56,350 Craig, can we get to the end of the story? 501 00:20:56,350 --> 00:20:57,470 LAUGHTER 502 00:20:57,470 --> 00:21:01,030 How can you not let me... I wanna get to the end of the story. 503 00:21:01,030 --> 00:21:04,390 I feel like I've been in Miami with you 504 00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:06,230 for a year. 505 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:08,750 You've got to set the tone. 506 00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:12,990 Car's not working, I call up the dealership, 507 00:21:12,990 --> 00:21:14,790 I ask, "What do I do to get this car started?" 508 00:21:14,790 --> 00:21:17,270 He said, "Listen, open the door seven times, 509 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:19,710 "turn the ignition seven times, and it will reset, 510 00:21:19,710 --> 00:21:21,430 "it will recalibrate the system." 511 00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:22,910 So, not like magic. 512 00:21:22,910 --> 00:21:24,670 There is a technique to it. Yeah. 513 00:21:24,670 --> 00:21:27,150 I'm calling, doing this, the lights are flashing like crazy. 514 00:21:27,150 --> 00:21:29,710 Everyone's out the restaurant, thinking, "Who's this joker?" 515 00:21:29,710 --> 00:21:31,350 Stealing a Ferrari. 516 00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:34,350 I don't know what car it is, but we'll just keep it between us. 517 00:21:34,350 --> 00:21:35,710 So, all of a sudden, 518 00:21:35,710 --> 00:21:37,310 I had this moment where I'm in the car 519 00:21:37,310 --> 00:21:39,870 and I'm looking around inside of the car, 520 00:21:39,870 --> 00:21:42,990 and, for some reason, I had this incredible epiphany, 521 00:21:42,990 --> 00:21:46,070 which was, like, this is all absolute nonsense. 522 00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:48,710 And that, for me to be here, 523 00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:50,670 in Miami, and to not really appreciate... 524 00:21:50,670 --> 00:21:53,350 I was stressing about the car, stressing about getting this girl, 525 00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:54,870 meeting this girl and going. 526 00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:56,550 I was like, "I've lost the whole thing." 527 00:21:56,550 --> 00:21:58,950 That was a defining moment that then meant me 528 00:21:58,950 --> 00:22:02,270 selling my apartment, selling the car, selling everything, 529 00:22:02,270 --> 00:22:04,150 and coming back home to the UK. 530 00:22:04,150 --> 00:22:06,350 That was... That was what I was trying... 531 00:22:06,350 --> 00:22:07,950 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 532 00:22:07,950 --> 00:22:10,150 When we got there, it was a great story. 533 00:22:10,150 --> 00:22:12,030 That was a lovely story. 534 00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:15,630 APPLAUSE So proud! 535 00:22:15,630 --> 00:22:19,430 I mean, here's the book. You can read it quicker than that. 536 00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:21,030 LAUGHTER 537 00:22:21,030 --> 00:22:22,750 We're recording an audiobook for that. 538 00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:24,510 It's genuinely a very touching story 539 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:26,710 because when we got to the end of that, 540 00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:28,670 you realise you were vulnerable. Totally. 541 00:22:28,670 --> 00:22:31,270 And you touched into what was missing 542 00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:33,110 and you came back here to try and find it. 543 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:36,310 And you do seem to be, certainly, in a better place now 544 00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:37,830 than you were when I met you years ago. 545 00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:41,710 You seem to be much more focused, and I guess you used to be more 546 00:22:41,710 --> 00:22:44,230 of just a people-pleaser, didn't you? Totally. 547 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:49,070 Like, people-pleasing sort of became my... 548 00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:52,310 It led from impostor syndrome, really, 549 00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:54,310 because when I first started off, 550 00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:56,550 it happened so fast, from, like, zero to 100, 551 00:22:56,550 --> 00:22:58,750 that I thought, "Someone's gonna pull the rug 552 00:22:58,750 --> 00:23:00,550 "from underneath my feet in a minute." 553 00:23:00,550 --> 00:23:04,350 So I think that then I started to lean into everything was a yes. 554 00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:06,150 Katherine, you're someone who strikes me 555 00:23:06,150 --> 00:23:08,630 as being not too concerned about what people think about you. 556 00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:11,150 Have you been in that situation? Ever a people-pleaser? 557 00:23:11,150 --> 00:23:13,670 I think I definitely was more of a people-pleaser 558 00:23:13,670 --> 00:23:16,430 when I was younger, and it was just with... 559 00:23:16,430 --> 00:23:19,950 I think we all get to this point of maturity, 560 00:23:19,950 --> 00:23:22,350 where you go, "I would like everyone to love me." 561 00:23:22,350 --> 00:23:24,670 I wanna make people happy, but at the end of the day, 562 00:23:24,670 --> 00:23:26,110 I'm not responsible if they don't. 563 00:23:26,110 --> 00:23:28,550 You can put your best out there, and if they don't like it... 564 00:23:28,550 --> 00:23:30,750 My mother always said, "If we all like the same thing, 565 00:23:30,750 --> 00:23:32,950 "we'd all be married to your father." 566 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:34,230 LAUGHTER 567 00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:36,630 So, now, we do have great music on the show tonight, 568 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:37,950 but if you're a Craig David fan, 569 00:23:37,950 --> 00:23:40,150 it's bad news that he isn't performing this evening. 570 00:23:40,150 --> 00:23:43,830 However, it's exciting that Craig does have a new album out this year. 571 00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:47,150 22 is out now, and we're gonna show you... 572 00:23:47,150 --> 00:23:48,470 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 573 00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:50,950 We're gonna show you a clip. DNA's the single. 574 00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:52,350 Have a look at this. 575 00:23:52,350 --> 00:23:54,550 # There's something in your DNA 576 00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:57,870 # Cos heaven did it right 577 00:23:57,870 --> 00:24:00,150 # Baby, when you were made 578 00:24:00,150 --> 00:24:03,550 # You hit it different I feel some type of way 579 00:24:03,550 --> 00:24:07,590 # I'll never be, never be the same 580 00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:09,750 # There's something in your DNA... # 581 00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:12,790 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE That was Craig in action. 582 00:24:12,790 --> 00:24:14,670 DNA's the single's name. 583 00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:17,510 Craig David and Galantis. 584 00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:20,110 Craig, stick around, don't go anywhere, because up next, 585 00:24:20,110 --> 00:24:23,350 we will be joined by Matthew Modine. See you after the break. 586 00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:24,990 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 587 00:24:30,675 --> 00:24:33,075 Welcome back to the show. Let's get my next guest out. 588 00:24:33,075 --> 00:24:35,755 He is a star of the big-screen, and now known to new generation 589 00:24:35,755 --> 00:24:38,275 of fans as "Papa" from the smash hit Stranger Things. 590 00:24:38,275 --> 00:24:41,155 Here he is. It's Matthew Modine. 591 00:24:41,155 --> 00:24:44,075 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 592 00:24:47,915 --> 00:24:49,435 Papa! 593 00:24:49,435 --> 00:24:51,155 Papa. 594 00:24:51,155 --> 00:24:54,075 Hi, Matthew, how you doing? Nice to meet you. Sit down. 595 00:24:54,075 --> 00:24:56,115 Well, you know, sometimes I'm worried about, 596 00:24:56,115 --> 00:24:58,875 when you're talking about someone who's done a lot of great things, 597 00:24:58,875 --> 00:25:00,715 a lot of great movies and TV, 598 00:25:00,715 --> 00:25:02,915 whether or not you feel like you're diminishing it 599 00:25:02,915 --> 00:25:04,395 by talking about one recent thing. 600 00:25:04,395 --> 00:25:06,875 But you've come out wearing the Papa jumper. Yeah, that's it. 601 00:25:06,875 --> 00:25:09,875 So, obviously, you're embracing the Stranger Things success right now? 602 00:25:09,875 --> 00:25:11,755 Yeah, I was walking through Covent Garden 603 00:25:11,755 --> 00:25:13,235 and it was in the shop window, 604 00:25:13,235 --> 00:25:15,795 and I figured, you know, I'm going on Jonathan Ross 605 00:25:15,795 --> 00:25:18,075 and maybe people won't know who I am. 606 00:25:18,075 --> 00:25:20,475 LAUGHTER Everyone knows who you are. 607 00:25:20,475 --> 00:25:22,635 So, Papa has become... 608 00:25:22,635 --> 00:25:25,675 Do people shout Papa to you when they see you? They do, they do. 609 00:25:25,675 --> 00:25:30,115 In... in strange sexual, um... uh... 610 00:25:30,115 --> 00:25:32,315 They call you Papa? "I love you, Papa. 611 00:25:32,315 --> 00:25:34,835 "Would you like to go have a shag?" 612 00:25:34,835 --> 00:25:36,075 KATHERINE: Sorry about that. 613 00:25:36,075 --> 00:25:38,395 LAUGHTER Wow. 614 00:25:40,275 --> 00:25:41,595 I get it. It's a vibe. 615 00:25:41,595 --> 00:25:45,355 It is a vibe. Hold it. Oti says, "I get it, I get it." 616 00:25:45,355 --> 00:25:47,675 No, Papa's like daddy, like, "Hey, Daddy." 617 00:25:47,675 --> 00:25:50,555 I get it, no? Isn't that a little bit... 618 00:25:50,555 --> 00:25:52,995 I'm not doing it, I'm just saying, I get them. 619 00:25:52,995 --> 00:25:54,395 LAUGHTER 620 00:25:54,395 --> 00:25:56,835 It is awkward seeing you again now. 621 00:25:56,835 --> 00:25:58,075 LAUGHTER 622 00:25:58,075 --> 00:26:00,475 Craig, anyone ever call you Papa in bed? 623 00:26:00,475 --> 00:26:03,075 Haven't been done... I haven't got the Papa thing yet. No? 624 00:26:03,075 --> 00:26:04,555 No. You're still young. 625 00:26:04,555 --> 00:26:06,835 So, I was thrilled to see you in that show 626 00:26:06,835 --> 00:26:08,555 cos I've loved your work since the '80s. 627 00:26:08,555 --> 00:26:10,995 I remember, I think the first film I soy you in was Birdy, 628 00:26:10,995 --> 00:26:13,555 which was a big hit, British director Alan Parker. Mm-hm. 629 00:26:13,555 --> 00:26:16,675 You and Nicolas Cage back in the mid-'80s, I think, early '80s. 630 00:26:16,675 --> 00:26:17,715 Yeah, '83. OK. 631 00:26:17,715 --> 00:26:20,475 And then you came over here to make Full Metal Jacket 632 00:26:20,475 --> 00:26:22,075 with the brilliant Stanley Kubrick. 633 00:26:22,075 --> 00:26:24,275 And you lived here in the UK for a while back then? 634 00:26:24,275 --> 00:26:27,515 Yeah. It took almost two years to make the film, 635 00:26:27,515 --> 00:26:32,475 and that image there is right down the river in the Isle of Dogs. 636 00:26:32,475 --> 00:26:35,275 Yeah, cos he wouldn't go to Vietnam and he wouldn't shoot abroad. 637 00:26:35,275 --> 00:26:36,955 Kubrick didn't like to fly, did he? No. 638 00:26:36,955 --> 00:26:41,355 So you recreated a version of Vietnam in Docklands here in London. 639 00:26:41,355 --> 00:26:43,515 Yeah, you can see how unhappy... 640 00:26:43,515 --> 00:26:45,355 Those are Spanish palm trees, 641 00:26:45,355 --> 00:26:48,195 and they brought them over and stuck them in the ground, 642 00:26:48,195 --> 00:26:51,075 and they were very unhappy, the palm trees. 643 00:26:51,075 --> 00:26:52,115 LAUGHTER 644 00:26:52,115 --> 00:26:55,155 He's famously quite a demanding director to work for. 645 00:26:55,155 --> 00:26:57,115 Yes. You know, requesting multiple takes 646 00:26:57,115 --> 00:26:59,955 and, like, really putting actors through their paces. 647 00:26:59,955 --> 00:27:02,995 How did you find working with him? I really enjoyed him. 648 00:27:02,995 --> 00:27:04,755 You know, he used to say, 649 00:27:04,755 --> 00:27:07,635 people complain about doing multiple takes 650 00:27:07,635 --> 00:27:10,475 and people always ask me, 651 00:27:10,475 --> 00:27:13,755 why do you do 30 takes, 50 takes, sometimes 100 takes? 652 00:27:13,755 --> 00:27:17,315 And he said that you'd never go to Pablo Picasso 653 00:27:17,315 --> 00:27:20,235 and say, "Hey, Pablo, how many strokes in that painting?" 654 00:27:20,235 --> 00:27:23,435 Or go to Beethoven and say, "How many notes in that song?" 655 00:27:23,435 --> 00:27:26,235 He said, "So I don't understand why people ask me that question." 656 00:27:26,235 --> 00:27:28,835 What you should be concerned with is the result. 657 00:27:28,835 --> 00:27:31,875 You know, how many times did you practise that dance? 658 00:27:31,875 --> 00:27:33,715 How many times do you practise that joke? 659 00:27:33,715 --> 00:27:36,595 How many times, you know, before you got the song right? 660 00:27:36,595 --> 00:27:38,915 How many times did you practise that anecdote? 661 00:27:38,915 --> 00:27:39,955 LAUGHTER 662 00:27:39,955 --> 00:27:43,395 Don't worry, as long as it lands! Don't start talking about Ferraris. 663 00:27:43,395 --> 00:27:45,195 LAUGHTER 664 00:27:45,195 --> 00:27:48,035 APPLAUSE 665 00:27:51,595 --> 00:27:53,795 I'm curious about you growing up in Utah, though, 666 00:27:53,795 --> 00:27:56,355 because Utah was underdeveloped when you were young, I guess? 667 00:27:56,355 --> 00:27:58,635 It was a couple of hundred thousand people, 668 00:27:58,635 --> 00:28:01,395 and probably most of them were Mormons, 669 00:28:01,395 --> 00:28:03,435 which is a really funny kind of... 670 00:28:03,435 --> 00:28:05,315 But you weren't a Mormon? 671 00:28:05,315 --> 00:28:07,275 My dad joined the church for little while 672 00:28:07,275 --> 00:28:11,355 cos his mother, my Grandma Zella, said that it'd be good for business. 673 00:28:11,355 --> 00:28:14,555 LAUGHTER What was the family business? 674 00:28:14,555 --> 00:28:16,395 We were drive-in theatre managers. 675 00:28:16,395 --> 00:28:20,155 My dad had drive-in theatres and my mom was a book-keeper. 676 00:28:20,155 --> 00:28:22,435 I'm the youngest of seven kids. Wow. 677 00:28:22,435 --> 00:28:24,635 It was great. I mean, you would have loved it 678 00:28:24,635 --> 00:28:27,115 because all the movies that I got to see. 679 00:28:27,115 --> 00:28:28,635 And it was just magical. 680 00:28:28,635 --> 00:28:31,435 I've been to a few drive-in theatres in the States before they... 681 00:28:31,435 --> 00:28:34,155 They're mostly gone now, I think, haven't they? 682 00:28:34,155 --> 00:28:35,435 The old ones, anyway. Yeah. 683 00:28:35,435 --> 00:28:39,715 And people blamed VHS tapes and DVDs and cable, 684 00:28:39,715 --> 00:28:41,515 but really, what it was, 685 00:28:41,515 --> 00:28:44,995 the front seat of a car used to be like this, it was a bench, 686 00:28:44,995 --> 00:28:47,795 and you could get busy in the front seat, you could make love. 687 00:28:47,795 --> 00:28:50,355 And then if it got really good, you'd get in the back seat. 688 00:28:50,355 --> 00:28:51,595 Yeah. LAUGHTER 689 00:28:51,595 --> 00:28:53,235 And so I got my sex education 690 00:28:53,235 --> 00:28:55,715 turning the speakers off at the drive-in 691 00:28:55,715 --> 00:28:57,395 and peeking in windows. Wow! 692 00:28:57,395 --> 00:28:59,235 LAUGHTER 693 00:28:59,235 --> 00:29:03,315 Which is probably problematic by today's standards, 694 00:29:03,315 --> 00:29:04,475 but I'm thrilled for you. 695 00:29:04,475 --> 00:29:06,915 But, Oti, you've been all over the world, haven't you? 696 00:29:06,915 --> 00:29:09,955 You're based here now, but you were in Germany for many years as well? 697 00:29:09,955 --> 00:29:13,395 Yes. So, I moved to Germany ten years ago, 698 00:29:13,395 --> 00:29:16,315 and I lived there for three years, and I was competing, 699 00:29:16,315 --> 00:29:17,715 dancing with my husband, 700 00:29:17,715 --> 00:29:19,915 and then I started doing Strictly there, actually, 701 00:29:19,915 --> 00:29:21,835 and it's called Let's Dance. 702 00:29:21,835 --> 00:29:23,835 But the thing is, I love, 703 00:29:23,835 --> 00:29:27,555 the first time I came to the UK, I came in 2015, 704 00:29:27,555 --> 00:29:30,715 and then I went back to Germany and I came back in 2016. 705 00:29:30,715 --> 00:29:32,635 My favourite, favourite, favourite thing 706 00:29:32,635 --> 00:29:34,075 and the reason why I moved here 707 00:29:34,075 --> 00:29:38,315 is when I came back, everyone, from the airport to the plane 708 00:29:38,315 --> 00:29:41,875 to the shops, people who knew me said, "Welcome home." 709 00:29:41,875 --> 00:29:45,115 So, when you go back, when you go to Germany, 710 00:29:45,115 --> 00:29:46,795 what do they say at the airport? 711 00:29:47,995 --> 00:29:49,275 SHE LAUGHS 712 00:29:50,995 --> 00:29:53,675 I have a very famous sister in Germany, 713 00:29:53,675 --> 00:29:57,155 so people get excited when they see my passport and they see... 714 00:29:57,155 --> 00:29:59,355 Because of Motsi? Because of Motsi. So they go... 715 00:29:59,355 --> 00:30:01,555 "Bist du die kleine Schwester von Motsi Mabuse?" 716 00:30:01,555 --> 00:30:03,795 And I'm like, "Yes, let me in, please!" 717 00:30:03,795 --> 00:30:04,835 And they let me in. 718 00:30:04,835 --> 00:30:07,475 So, if you could do that in English for us, though? Oh, sorry. 719 00:30:07,475 --> 00:30:09,795 "Are you the youngest sister..." 720 00:30:09,795 --> 00:30:11,515 I said that in the German... 721 00:30:11,515 --> 00:30:14,395 "Are you Motsi's younger sister?" Are you Motsi's younger sister? 722 00:30:14,395 --> 00:30:16,435 Yes. And then I go, "Yes, please let me in." 723 00:30:16,435 --> 00:30:18,635 Weirdly, that's what I get when I go to Germany. 724 00:30:18,635 --> 00:30:21,075 LAUGHTER The same way? 725 00:30:21,075 --> 00:30:24,795 So, let's return, if we may, to Papa again briefly. 726 00:30:24,795 --> 00:30:27,235 You worked a lot with the brilliant Millie Bobby Brown 727 00:30:27,235 --> 00:30:28,475 in Stranger Things. Yes. 728 00:30:28,475 --> 00:30:30,355 It was almost like a double act in some ways. 729 00:30:30,355 --> 00:30:32,675 Obviously, it's a huge cast, but very central to it. 730 00:30:32,675 --> 00:30:35,475 And you were working with her when she started the show. 731 00:30:35,475 --> 00:30:38,275 She was really pretty young, wasn't she? 11. 732 00:30:38,275 --> 00:30:39,315 So she was 11? Yeah. 733 00:30:39,315 --> 00:30:41,035 As, indeed, played the character Eleven. 734 00:30:41,035 --> 00:30:44,555 Until her growing into a young woman on the show and becoming an adult. 735 00:30:44,555 --> 00:30:46,035 That must have been interesting, 736 00:30:46,035 --> 00:30:48,355 to be part of young actor's life to that extent 737 00:30:48,355 --> 00:30:49,915 at that formative period? Yeah. 738 00:30:49,915 --> 00:30:52,195 How the business changed, 739 00:30:52,195 --> 00:30:56,755 you know, when you saw me in Birdy to today, um... 740 00:30:56,755 --> 00:31:00,995 If a movie was successful in 20 or 30 territories around the world, 741 00:31:00,995 --> 00:31:02,715 20 or 30 countries around the world, 742 00:31:02,715 --> 00:31:05,635 that would be huge, that would be an enormous success. 743 00:31:05,635 --> 00:31:09,875 And Netflix is in over 190 territories around the world. 744 00:31:09,875 --> 00:31:11,635 So what she was exposed to, 745 00:31:11,635 --> 00:31:13,595 what all the children on the show were exposed to 746 00:31:13,595 --> 00:31:16,955 was a kind of fame and popularity and notoriety 747 00:31:16,955 --> 00:31:19,715 that never existed in the history of the entertainment industry. 748 00:31:19,715 --> 00:31:21,435 It couldn't have been achieved back then 749 00:31:21,435 --> 00:31:23,075 cos you didn't have that reach. Yeah. 750 00:31:23,075 --> 00:31:24,755 So I just wanted to do everything I could 751 00:31:24,755 --> 00:31:26,275 to make sure that she was safe 752 00:31:26,275 --> 00:31:29,715 and that she understood that a career is a roller-coaster, 753 00:31:29,715 --> 00:31:32,755 that there's ups and downs to it, and, you know... 754 00:31:32,755 --> 00:31:34,515 Prepare her for that? Yeah. 755 00:31:34,515 --> 00:31:36,475 It's nice to have someone who's been through it 756 00:31:36,475 --> 00:31:39,035 and is older and wiser to be able to offer you that advice. 757 00:31:39,035 --> 00:31:40,875 And she presumably trusts you and likes you. 758 00:31:40,875 --> 00:31:43,395 We went on a road trip down to Florida 759 00:31:43,395 --> 00:31:46,795 and her parents rented a Winnebago. 760 00:31:46,795 --> 00:31:49,715 And we were driving down and we stopped at a grocery store 761 00:31:49,715 --> 00:31:51,675 and people were freaking out because... 762 00:31:51,675 --> 00:31:55,915 "What's happening? There's Papa and Eleven in a Walmart." 763 00:31:55,915 --> 00:31:56,955 LAUGHTER 764 00:31:56,955 --> 00:32:00,075 And she picked up, she had a very neurotic dog, 765 00:32:00,075 --> 00:32:02,835 and I didn't know that this was happening, 766 00:32:02,835 --> 00:32:07,475 but she bought some dog biscuits, they were vegetarian, 767 00:32:07,475 --> 00:32:11,755 but they were laced with CBD or some kind of... 768 00:32:11,755 --> 00:32:14,755 So the cannabis, the calming part of the cannabis? 769 00:32:14,755 --> 00:32:16,275 Yeah. And we were in the thing 770 00:32:16,275 --> 00:32:18,755 and we're driving to Florida to go to the beach, 771 00:32:18,755 --> 00:32:20,075 and I started eating biscuits, 772 00:32:20,075 --> 00:32:21,875 and these were kind of tasty, you know. 773 00:32:21,875 --> 00:32:24,115 I ate about three or four of them, 774 00:32:24,115 --> 00:32:27,595 and I think a dose was about half of one. 775 00:32:27,595 --> 00:32:30,395 And so, yeah, I started barking and... 776 00:32:30,395 --> 00:32:32,355 LAUGHTER 777 00:32:32,355 --> 00:32:35,115 ..marking my territory (!) 778 00:32:35,115 --> 00:32:38,155 I climbed up in the thing and went to sleep for four or five hours. 779 00:32:38,155 --> 00:32:41,035 Wow. That's a fun road trip to go on! 780 00:32:41,035 --> 00:32:42,675 Let me ask you a little bit about 781 00:32:42,675 --> 00:32:44,355 what you're doing in London right now, 782 00:32:44,355 --> 00:32:45,715 because this is exciting. 783 00:32:45,715 --> 00:32:47,515 You're taking over the role in a play 784 00:32:47,515 --> 00:32:49,395 which is already in the West End. Yeah. 785 00:32:49,395 --> 00:32:52,755 And it's an adaptation of a very famous book, of course. 786 00:32:52,755 --> 00:32:55,795 Tell me about who's adapted it for the stage and the role you play. 787 00:32:55,795 --> 00:32:58,635 OK. So, the book is written by Harper Lee, 788 00:32:58,635 --> 00:33:02,235 To Kill A Mockingbird, and Aaron Sorkin 789 00:33:02,235 --> 00:33:05,075 did an adaptation of the book 790 00:33:05,075 --> 00:33:07,435 in a very "Sorkian"... 791 00:33:07,435 --> 00:33:10,115 I think we can say that now. If you're not familiar immediately 792 00:33:10,115 --> 00:33:12,875 with Aaron Sorkin's name, he was the genius behind The West Wing, 793 00:33:12,875 --> 00:33:15,555 he wrote The Social Network movie, so many other great movies, 794 00:33:15,555 --> 00:33:17,395 and I think one of the finest writers 795 00:33:17,395 --> 00:33:19,595 working in film and television today. Yes. 796 00:33:19,595 --> 00:33:21,235 And now on stage as well? Yeah. 797 00:33:21,235 --> 00:33:24,715 And it's a... It's a beast of a role. 798 00:33:24,715 --> 00:33:26,515 It's 190 pages of text, 799 00:33:26,515 --> 00:33:30,515 which I'm struggling to get inside my head now. 800 00:33:30,515 --> 00:33:32,035 But it's... 801 00:33:32,035 --> 00:33:36,275 You know, while the story is a story about a Black man 802 00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:39,235 who's accused of raping a white teenage girl 803 00:33:39,235 --> 00:33:41,715 in 1934, I think it is, 804 00:33:41,715 --> 00:33:46,075 and it's about some systemic racism inside the United States, 805 00:33:46,075 --> 00:33:48,875 what we're experiencing in the United States right now 806 00:33:48,875 --> 00:33:51,315 is something that hasn't changed. 807 00:33:51,315 --> 00:33:53,235 We've become so divided, 808 00:33:53,235 --> 00:33:56,555 and it's a sickening thing to be living through right now. 809 00:33:56,555 --> 00:34:00,355 Yeah. There isn't the chance to share opposing ideas 810 00:34:00,355 --> 00:34:02,115 and work on some kind of common ground. 811 00:34:02,115 --> 00:34:04,875 But on that note, you've met Donald Trump a few times, 812 00:34:04,875 --> 00:34:06,115 haven't you, over the years? 813 00:34:06,115 --> 00:34:08,475 Unfortunately, yeah. LAUGHTER 814 00:34:08,475 --> 00:34:10,875 How did you find him? 815 00:34:10,875 --> 00:34:13,635 In New York, you know, you find yourself at dinner parties, 816 00:34:13,635 --> 00:34:15,675 and somebody, there'll be a table 817 00:34:15,675 --> 00:34:17,875 and you get invited to sit at that table. 818 00:34:17,875 --> 00:34:21,435 And he's... I've been at dinners with him, 819 00:34:21,435 --> 00:34:24,595 and he is everything that you imagine that he is. 820 00:34:24,595 --> 00:34:27,035 You know, that trip, 821 00:34:27,035 --> 00:34:29,595 remember when he was on the bus and he was talking about 822 00:34:29,595 --> 00:34:32,875 being able to grab women's genitals and stuff, 823 00:34:32,875 --> 00:34:36,715 and he could get away with it, he could do it because he's a star, 824 00:34:36,715 --> 00:34:38,595 he said to the fella on the bus. 825 00:34:38,595 --> 00:34:40,755 That's who he is. He... 826 00:34:40,755 --> 00:34:43,635 Maya Angelou says when somebody shows you who they are, 827 00:34:43,635 --> 00:34:44,875 believe them. Believe them. 828 00:34:44,875 --> 00:34:46,195 Yeah. Mm. 829 00:34:46,195 --> 00:34:48,915 And I just don't understand 830 00:34:48,915 --> 00:34:51,675 how he could have become the President of the United States. 831 00:34:51,675 --> 00:34:52,715 Yeah. 832 00:34:52,715 --> 00:34:54,875 APPLAUSE 833 00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:56,595 It's still rather like... 834 00:34:56,595 --> 00:34:59,475 It's rather like a bad dream. Yeah. 835 00:34:59,475 --> 00:35:01,955 So, apparently, you're on stage from this Monday? 836 00:35:01,955 --> 00:35:04,155 Yeah, we begin previews. Previews are this Monday? 837 00:35:04,155 --> 00:35:07,235 Yeah. We open officially, I think it's December 8th and 9th. 838 00:35:07,235 --> 00:35:08,755 Erm, one final thing. 839 00:35:08,755 --> 00:35:11,915 I found a website called TooFab.com, 840 00:35:11,915 --> 00:35:14,715 and had a recent photograph of you, which I'm gonna show now, 841 00:35:14,715 --> 00:35:16,195 with a missing tooth. 842 00:35:16,195 --> 00:35:18,435 Oh, no. Oh, no! 843 00:35:18,435 --> 00:35:21,235 And I was wondering if you could explain how that came about, 844 00:35:21,235 --> 00:35:23,195 because I think this is quite a good story. Yeah. 845 00:35:23,195 --> 00:35:25,395 I was skateboarding. Hold on. So... 846 00:35:25,395 --> 00:35:26,675 LAUGHTER 847 00:35:26,675 --> 00:35:28,395 You were skateboarding? Yeah. 848 00:35:28,395 --> 00:35:30,275 I don't... I... 849 00:35:30,275 --> 00:35:33,795 When we moved from Utah to Imperial Beach, California, 850 00:35:33,795 --> 00:35:35,115 I became a surfer. 851 00:35:35,115 --> 00:35:36,355 And I love surfing 852 00:35:36,355 --> 00:35:40,355 and surfing has led me to my environmentalism, 853 00:35:40,355 --> 00:35:43,155 my appreciation and love of the ocean, it gives us life. 854 00:35:43,155 --> 00:35:44,875 Um, but... 855 00:35:44,875 --> 00:35:47,995 So, now I have a big skateboard, it's a long board, 856 00:35:47,995 --> 00:35:49,635 and my phone was ringing. 857 00:35:49,635 --> 00:35:51,555 So, I was skating, and, you know, 858 00:35:51,555 --> 00:35:55,515 you gotta look cool when you're skating, right? Because... 859 00:35:55,515 --> 00:35:59,115 I had my shorts on and I reached into my pocket to get my phone 860 00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:02,075 to see who was calling me, and I wasn't paying attention, 861 00:36:02,075 --> 00:36:05,035 and my skateboard went down into a crack 862 00:36:05,035 --> 00:36:06,515 and just launched me. 863 00:36:06,515 --> 00:36:07,875 And I landed on my face. 864 00:36:07,875 --> 00:36:10,635 I thought I'd broken my nose because I've got a big nose. 865 00:36:10,635 --> 00:36:12,555 I heard a big crack. 866 00:36:12,555 --> 00:36:14,795 And then I started feeling my teeth, 867 00:36:14,795 --> 00:36:17,475 and this tooth was bent all the way in. Oh! 868 00:36:17,475 --> 00:36:19,675 I thought maybe the dentist could fix it, 869 00:36:19,675 --> 00:36:22,035 you know, sort of straighten it out and it'd be all right, 870 00:36:22,035 --> 00:36:24,875 and he said, "Are you kidding?" And he just pulled the whole thing out. 871 00:36:24,875 --> 00:36:27,435 Whoa! So now I have an implant. 872 00:36:27,435 --> 00:36:29,635 How long did you have the gap tooth for? 873 00:36:29,635 --> 00:36:32,235 Because Katherine had it for about 14 years, didn't you? 874 00:36:32,235 --> 00:36:33,715 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE 875 00:36:33,715 --> 00:36:35,755 I did. Something you've got in common right there. 876 00:36:35,755 --> 00:36:37,715 OK, so we're gonna take a break. Don't go away, 877 00:36:37,715 --> 00:36:39,715 but don't go away either at home because up next, 878 00:36:39,715 --> 00:36:41,915 we'll be joined by the brilliant Josh Jones, 879 00:36:41,915 --> 00:36:43,915 and Wet Leg performing live here in the studio. 880 00:36:43,915 --> 00:36:45,435 See you after the break. 881 00:36:51,035 --> 00:36:53,675 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 882 00:36:53,675 --> 00:36:54,755 Welcome back to the show. 883 00:36:54,755 --> 00:36:56,475 Let's get my next guest out this evening, 884 00:36:56,475 --> 00:36:59,355 one of the best up-and-coming stand-ups on the circuit right now, 885 00:36:59,355 --> 00:37:02,275 I think you're gonna love him, it's Josh Jones. 886 00:37:02,275 --> 00:37:05,675 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 887 00:37:08,275 --> 00:37:09,595 Hello, Josh. 888 00:37:13,475 --> 00:37:16,275 Hello. Hello, Craig David. 889 00:37:16,275 --> 00:37:18,475 Lovely to have you here. Let's hug it out. Thank you. 890 00:37:18,475 --> 00:37:21,195 Josh, thank you for coming on. You're cheering up the studio 891 00:37:21,195 --> 00:37:22,475 with your jumper already. 892 00:37:22,475 --> 00:37:25,555 I was just talking to Matthew about an accident he had recently, 893 00:37:25,555 --> 00:37:26,875 skateboarding incident. Yes. 894 00:37:26,875 --> 00:37:29,115 And I believe you're quite accident-prone? Yeah. 895 00:37:29,115 --> 00:37:32,955 If you are a UK taxpayer, I'm so sorry. 896 00:37:32,955 --> 00:37:35,915 I do think loads of the NHS has gone on me. 897 00:37:35,915 --> 00:37:39,275 I, erm... I'm in A&E all the time, 898 00:37:39,275 --> 00:37:41,595 but I don't know if it's cos I'm really dramatic. 899 00:37:41,595 --> 00:37:44,155 Like, last time I was there, I woke up 900 00:37:44,155 --> 00:37:46,555 and my eyes were in, like, loads of pain 901 00:37:46,555 --> 00:37:49,155 and I woke up and I thought I was going blind, 902 00:37:49,155 --> 00:37:51,755 so I phone my mum, I'm like, "Mum, I'm going blind." 903 00:37:51,755 --> 00:37:54,955 So my mum drove to my house in a massive panic, 904 00:37:54,955 --> 00:37:57,155 she was like, "Oh, my God, my baby's going blind, 905 00:37:57,155 --> 00:37:59,555 "what are we gonna do? We're gonna have to move you back home, 906 00:37:59,555 --> 00:38:01,275 "you're gonna have to learn Braille." 907 00:38:01,275 --> 00:38:03,795 It was a big day. She really jumped to the end of the story. 908 00:38:03,795 --> 00:38:06,195 That's where I get my dramatic stuff from. 909 00:38:06,195 --> 00:38:09,755 Then we went to A&E, we was in A&E for five hours, 910 00:38:09,755 --> 00:38:11,675 and whilst we was there, 911 00:38:11,675 --> 00:38:14,155 my mum was just crying whilst Googling guide dogs. 912 00:38:14,155 --> 00:38:15,195 LAUGHTER 913 00:38:15,195 --> 00:38:18,075 Eventually, we managed to see a nurse, 914 00:38:18,075 --> 00:38:20,515 and the nurse started asking me loads of questions. 915 00:38:20,515 --> 00:38:23,235 She was like, "Josh, be honest, was you drunk last night?" 916 00:38:23,235 --> 00:38:25,435 I was like, "Yeah, I was shit-faced." 917 00:38:25,435 --> 00:38:27,235 And it was a hot summer's day, 918 00:38:27,235 --> 00:38:30,275 and she was like, "Do you have a fan in your room, by any chance?" 919 00:38:30,275 --> 00:38:32,595 I said, "Yeah, it's right next to my bed." 920 00:38:32,595 --> 00:38:34,795 And the nurse goes, "I think I know what's happened. 921 00:38:34,795 --> 00:38:37,115 "I think you've come home and you were so drunk 922 00:38:37,115 --> 00:38:40,915 "that you fell asleep with your eyes wide open 923 00:38:40,915 --> 00:38:43,635 "you dried your eyes out." 924 00:38:43,635 --> 00:38:45,875 And I was like, "God, this is embarrassing, 925 00:38:45,875 --> 00:38:47,475 "this is mortifying." 926 00:38:47,475 --> 00:38:49,875 And when I thought it couldn't get any more embarrassing, 927 00:38:49,875 --> 00:38:52,315 my mum leaned forward to the nurse and was like, 928 00:38:52,315 --> 00:38:55,395 "Oh, my God, will his eyes ever get wet again?" 929 00:38:55,395 --> 00:38:57,115 LAUGHTER 930 00:38:57,115 --> 00:39:00,035 I didn't know you could fall asleep with your eyes open. 931 00:39:00,035 --> 00:39:03,115 Yes. I was bladdered, though, to be fair, yeah. 932 00:39:03,115 --> 00:39:05,475 Oti, have you fallen asleep with your eyes open? 933 00:39:05,475 --> 00:39:07,395 I do that. Like, it's really weird. 934 00:39:07,395 --> 00:39:10,195 So, we did this at school... Was it Jagerbombs? 935 00:39:10,195 --> 00:39:11,795 LAUGHTER 936 00:39:11,795 --> 00:39:14,515 No. We used to train ourselves, 937 00:39:14,515 --> 00:39:16,315 I don't know, as kids, we thought it was cool, 938 00:39:16,315 --> 00:39:17,635 while the teacher was teaching, 939 00:39:17,635 --> 00:39:20,955 we will train ourselves to look like we were listening, 940 00:39:20,955 --> 00:39:22,595 but we would be asleep. Wow. 941 00:39:22,595 --> 00:39:24,075 But then you get so good at it 942 00:39:24,075 --> 00:39:26,355 that the first time I fell asleep next to my husband, 943 00:39:26,355 --> 00:39:28,555 he's like, "Why are you looking at me?!" 944 00:39:28,555 --> 00:39:29,675 LAUGHTER 945 00:39:29,675 --> 00:39:32,075 And I looked, I was like, no. 946 00:39:32,075 --> 00:39:33,915 So I sleep like that. 947 00:39:33,915 --> 00:39:36,115 And Josh, I know you met Matthew backstage, 948 00:39:36,115 --> 00:39:38,355 but were you a fan of Stranger Things? Did you watch it? 949 00:39:38,355 --> 00:39:40,195 I've only seen the first season 950 00:39:40,195 --> 00:39:43,315 cos the guy I was with at the time got too scared, 951 00:39:43,315 --> 00:39:44,595 so we stopped watching. 952 00:39:44,595 --> 00:39:47,275 He was scared of lots of things - Stranger Things, commitment. 953 00:39:47,275 --> 00:39:48,475 It was a nightmare. 954 00:39:48,475 --> 00:39:50,675 LAUGHTER 955 00:39:50,675 --> 00:39:52,475 But, yeah, so... 956 00:39:52,475 --> 00:39:54,315 I am gonna get round to it. 957 00:39:54,315 --> 00:39:55,355 APPLAUSE 958 00:39:56,715 --> 00:39:58,435 I need to ask you about your podcast. 959 00:39:58,435 --> 00:40:01,235 This is something that Matthew may be able to help you with. 960 00:40:01,235 --> 00:40:02,835 You do a podcast called Hard Sell. 961 00:40:02,835 --> 00:40:03,915 Yes. 962 00:40:03,915 --> 00:40:06,555 With Darren Harriott, the brilliant comedian Darren Harriott. 963 00:40:06,555 --> 00:40:08,755 Tell us about the premise. It's a wonderful idea. 964 00:40:08,755 --> 00:40:11,835 So, basically, we go into celebrities' houses, 965 00:40:11,835 --> 00:40:14,235 which is the main reason I said yes, 966 00:40:14,235 --> 00:40:17,555 and we get to steal one of their things, 967 00:40:17,555 --> 00:40:19,195 and then we sell it for charity. 968 00:40:19,195 --> 00:40:20,995 But we get to go to loads of nice houses. 969 00:40:20,995 --> 00:40:23,235 We went to Joel Dommett's house. That was lovely. 970 00:40:23,235 --> 00:40:25,115 Hmm, nice. Yeah, it was a lovely house. 971 00:40:25,115 --> 00:40:27,955 Not what I would do with the money. But it was nice! 972 00:40:27,955 --> 00:40:30,155 LAUGHTER Yeah, it was lovely. 973 00:40:30,155 --> 00:40:32,155 The reason I say Matthew might be interested, 974 00:40:32,155 --> 00:40:34,155 is I think you're someone who has, over the years, 975 00:40:34,155 --> 00:40:35,635 de-cluttered your life. Yes, sir. 976 00:40:35,635 --> 00:40:38,395 So, have you got any clutter left you could pass his way? 977 00:40:38,395 --> 00:40:41,195 Every Monday on Twitter, 978 00:40:41,195 --> 00:40:43,835 we just want to de-clutter, 979 00:40:43,835 --> 00:40:46,275 so we just have a raffle. 980 00:40:46,275 --> 00:40:49,115 Yeah, we had a house upstate New York, 981 00:40:49,115 --> 00:40:51,075 and you can look at my resume and see, 982 00:40:51,075 --> 00:40:54,315 "I bet you bought the house here and I bet you sold it here", 983 00:40:54,315 --> 00:40:58,035 because there was a lot of really poor choices made. 984 00:40:58,035 --> 00:40:59,475 In terms of films? 985 00:40:59,475 --> 00:41:02,915 Yeah. Because I was paying for a house. I was paying for a lifestyle. 986 00:41:02,915 --> 00:41:04,035 But what's amazing is, 987 00:41:04,035 --> 00:41:07,035 cos I know you've had, like everyone in cinema, certainly, 988 00:41:07,035 --> 00:41:09,475 you've had a career where it's a roller-coaster. 989 00:41:09,475 --> 00:41:12,435 But some of the parts you've turned down... Yeah. 990 00:41:12,435 --> 00:41:13,475 It's very striking. 991 00:41:13,475 --> 00:41:16,515 You turned down some of the biggest movies of the '80s and early '90s. 992 00:41:16,515 --> 00:41:18,355 Yeah. Can we say which ones you turned down? 993 00:41:18,355 --> 00:41:19,595 Sure. 994 00:41:19,595 --> 00:41:22,235 You were offered the part of Maverick in Top Gun. Yeah. 995 00:41:22,235 --> 00:41:23,315 AUDIENCE GASPS 996 00:41:23,315 --> 00:41:25,875 Yeah, it's cos I grew up with the war, 997 00:41:25,875 --> 00:41:28,395 watching the Vietnam War on television, 998 00:41:28,395 --> 00:41:32,715 and then my oldest brothers, and my sister, participated in the war. 999 00:41:32,715 --> 00:41:36,075 There's nothing sexy or romantic about war, 1000 00:41:36,075 --> 00:41:38,435 so the idea of making a movie like Top Gun, 1001 00:41:38,435 --> 00:41:41,115 that would make it look fun and... 1002 00:41:41,115 --> 00:41:42,795 Glamorise it? Yeah. 1003 00:41:42,795 --> 00:41:47,035 I just didn't want to participate in that kind of storytelling. 1004 00:41:47,035 --> 00:41:49,635 And I understand that, and I 100% respect that. 1005 00:41:49,635 --> 00:41:52,115 Why did you turn down Back To The Future, though? 1006 00:41:52,115 --> 00:41:54,755 You were offered the Marty McFly role in Back To The Future. 1007 00:41:54,755 --> 00:41:56,315 Yeah, but when you think about... 1008 00:41:56,315 --> 00:41:59,595 I mean, Michael J Fox... 1009 00:41:59,595 --> 00:42:03,155 You see why I turned it down. Because... 1010 00:42:03,155 --> 00:42:05,515 But did you know he was next in line? No. 1011 00:42:05,515 --> 00:42:08,875 So then, in that case, that argument doesn't really work. 1012 00:42:08,875 --> 00:42:09,995 LAUGHTER 1013 00:42:09,995 --> 00:42:12,835 They'd hired Eric Stoltz to play the part. Yeah. 1014 00:42:12,835 --> 00:42:14,435 Eric Stoltz was let go, 1015 00:42:14,435 --> 00:42:18,475 and they told me I had 24 hours to make a decision, 1016 00:42:18,475 --> 00:42:20,955 and I said, "Well, Spielberg's producing it, 1017 00:42:20,955 --> 00:42:23,875 "but it's this guy Zemeckis. I've never heard of Zemeckis." 1018 00:42:23,875 --> 00:42:27,155 I didn't know that Zemeckis was as talented as he is. 1019 00:42:27,155 --> 00:42:31,875 But yeah, I just didn't see myself in the role. 1020 00:42:31,875 --> 00:42:34,115 But here's another role that Matthew turned down. 1021 00:42:34,115 --> 00:42:37,395 He turned down... He was offered the Tom Hanks role in Big. 1022 00:42:37,395 --> 00:42:38,955 Yeah, that was really stupid. 1023 00:42:38,955 --> 00:42:40,555 LAUGHTER 1024 00:42:41,915 --> 00:42:45,235 Josh, I imagine... Already I can see you're a versatile young man. Yes. 1025 00:42:45,235 --> 00:42:47,435 Have you done any acting? 1026 00:42:47,435 --> 00:42:50,755 Oh, well, I told my agent I would be interested in acting, 1027 00:42:50,755 --> 00:42:55,195 and then he got me some auditions for heterosexual men, 1028 00:42:55,195 --> 00:42:58,075 and I was like, "I said I could do a bit of acting, 1029 00:42:58,075 --> 00:43:00,555 "I didn't say I was fucking Meryl Streep." 1030 00:43:00,555 --> 00:43:01,955 Do you know what I mean? LAUGHTER 1031 00:43:01,955 --> 00:43:03,315 Like, "Relax!" 1032 00:43:06,275 --> 00:43:09,595 So, Josh, how long have you been doing comedy for now? 1033 00:43:09,595 --> 00:43:12,475 Seven years. Seven years. So it's still fairly early in your career. 1034 00:43:12,475 --> 00:43:15,155 Yeah, it was all, like, doing working men's clubs 1035 00:43:15,155 --> 00:43:16,355 and rugby clubs in the north. 1036 00:43:16,355 --> 00:43:17,995 Oh, you did working men's clubs? 1037 00:43:17,995 --> 00:43:19,275 Yeah, that's how I started. 1038 00:43:19,275 --> 00:43:20,715 How did the act go down there? 1039 00:43:20,715 --> 00:43:23,075 Yeah, all right. It was where I cut my teeth, 1040 00:43:23,075 --> 00:43:24,915 so I think it makes you quite good. 1041 00:43:24,915 --> 00:43:27,355 But sometimes, you know, sounding like this, 1042 00:43:27,355 --> 00:43:28,915 sometimes they're not... 1043 00:43:28,915 --> 00:43:31,715 Like, as soon as you walk on, they're like, "Oh, bloody hell." 1044 00:43:31,715 --> 00:43:36,515 Like, I walked on, I did a gig for 300 farmers in Yorkshire. 1045 00:43:36,515 --> 00:43:37,995 LAUGHTER 1046 00:43:39,755 --> 00:43:42,195 And I walked on stage and all I said was "hello", 1047 00:43:42,195 --> 00:43:45,115 and straightaway, this old bloke in the front row 1048 00:43:45,115 --> 00:43:47,435 picked his chair up and turned around. 1049 00:43:47,435 --> 00:43:48,475 LAUGHTER 1050 00:43:48,475 --> 00:43:51,235 So his back were facing me. And I was thinking, 1051 00:43:51,235 --> 00:43:54,235 "Wow, this guy is really homophobic." 1052 00:43:54,235 --> 00:43:56,955 But then I thought, "Hang on, Josh, maybe he's not. 1053 00:43:56,955 --> 00:43:59,795 "Maybe he's just never met an openly gay person before 1054 00:43:59,795 --> 00:44:01,795 "and he assumes that the correct etiquette 1055 00:44:01,795 --> 00:44:03,955 "is that he has to present himself." 1056 00:44:03,955 --> 00:44:06,275 APPLAUSE AND LAUGHTER 1057 00:44:07,875 --> 00:44:09,315 That's a lovely way... 1058 00:44:09,315 --> 00:44:11,755 That's a positive vibe right there. 1059 00:44:11,755 --> 00:44:13,955 And he was a great shag, so fair play. 1060 00:44:13,955 --> 00:44:15,315 LAUGHTER 1061 00:44:15,315 --> 00:44:17,035 Katherine, what about you? 1062 00:44:17,035 --> 00:44:18,995 From your early days as a stand-up, 1063 00:44:18,995 --> 00:44:22,355 what were the best and the worst audiences you had? 1064 00:44:22,355 --> 00:44:24,595 I mean, I think it's disarming to be different. 1065 00:44:24,595 --> 00:44:25,755 I think it's great, Josh. 1066 00:44:25,755 --> 00:44:28,435 Go into a room with 300 farmers talking like Josh, 1067 00:44:28,435 --> 00:44:29,515 or talking like me, 1068 00:44:29,515 --> 00:44:33,555 I think our differences have made us probably very unique 1069 00:44:33,555 --> 00:44:35,195 in this industry. I feel really lucky. 1070 00:44:35,195 --> 00:44:38,395 Every time I felt like an outsider, it's, like, been for the best. 1071 00:44:38,395 --> 00:44:40,035 Like, your comedy is really great 1072 00:44:40,035 --> 00:44:43,275 because you say things that women would say in their heads 1073 00:44:43,275 --> 00:44:44,675 but then just give you a smile. 1074 00:44:44,675 --> 00:44:46,875 Like, you say things that I would go... 1075 00:44:46,875 --> 00:44:48,515 LAUGHTER 1076 00:44:48,515 --> 00:44:51,875 I'm just saying it with my smile, but you're like, "Fuck off." 1077 00:44:51,875 --> 00:44:53,635 And I love it, I love it. 1078 00:44:53,635 --> 00:44:55,395 Katherine, and the exciting news is, 1079 00:44:55,395 --> 00:44:58,275 and this is quite a revealing thing to leave yourself open to, 1080 00:44:58,275 --> 00:45:00,155 you've allowed Louis Theroux into your life 1081 00:45:00,155 --> 00:45:01,795 to do one of his in-depth interviews. 1082 00:45:01,795 --> 00:45:03,635 Oh, yes, he came on tour with me. 1083 00:45:03,635 --> 00:45:06,115 We're doing that on the BBC on November 22. 1084 00:45:06,115 --> 00:45:07,995 And how revealing, how open were you? 1085 00:45:07,995 --> 00:45:09,355 How much access did you give him? 1086 00:45:09,355 --> 00:45:12,075 That sounds wrong, of course. But you know what I mean. 1087 00:45:12,075 --> 00:45:15,035 Wide! I was wide open, Jonathan. 1088 00:45:15,035 --> 00:45:16,115 LAUGHTER 1089 00:45:16,115 --> 00:45:19,795 So, he filmed with your family, he filmed in your house? 1090 00:45:19,795 --> 00:45:22,795 Yeah, it's amazing. I protected my daughter from all social media 1091 00:45:22,795 --> 00:45:24,995 and didn't really put her out there at all. 1092 00:45:24,995 --> 00:45:26,115 And she's a teenager now. 1093 00:45:26,115 --> 00:45:31,155 And I feature little bits of her, where I feel like it's appropriate. 1094 00:45:31,155 --> 00:45:33,675 So, like, my whole family is actually in this, 1095 00:45:33,675 --> 00:45:36,755 cos I thought it was such an amazing project and I love Louis Theroux. 1096 00:45:36,755 --> 00:45:38,955 Bobby's in it, the baby's in it. My daughter. 1097 00:45:38,955 --> 00:45:41,355 Are the dogs in it? The dogs are the stars of the show. 1098 00:45:41,355 --> 00:45:45,075 OK, we actually do have a clip. Let's show a clip. Have a look. 1099 00:45:45,075 --> 00:45:46,395 I always loved Bobby. 1100 00:45:46,395 --> 00:45:48,795 I feel like part of the magic of our relationship now 1101 00:45:48,795 --> 00:45:50,195 is that I find myself, like, 1102 00:45:50,195 --> 00:45:52,555 still having a teenage infatuation with him. 1103 00:45:52,555 --> 00:45:54,515 Like, I love him like... 1104 00:45:54,515 --> 00:45:57,675 like a teenager, like a Romeo And Juliet... 1105 00:45:57,675 --> 00:46:00,475 Like, I'm obsessed with him like a teenager. 1106 00:46:00,475 --> 00:46:02,875 Really? And you feel it in your heart? 1107 00:46:04,155 --> 00:46:06,635 Lower. Lower? 1108 00:46:06,635 --> 00:46:07,675 LAUGHTER 1109 00:46:07,675 --> 00:46:09,595 Yeah. 1110 00:46:09,595 --> 00:46:10,995 I love... LAUGHTER 1111 00:46:10,995 --> 00:46:12,715 Right, we're out of that. 1112 00:46:12,715 --> 00:46:14,515 We don't want to hear about that, do we? 1113 00:46:14,515 --> 00:46:17,195 No, I do feel it in my heart. Yes, I love Bobby. 1114 00:46:17,195 --> 00:46:18,595 TMI! 1115 00:46:18,595 --> 00:46:20,355 APPLAUSE 1116 00:46:20,355 --> 00:46:23,835 The very funny Katherine Ryan with the very funny Louis Theroux. 1117 00:46:23,835 --> 00:46:25,595 You can see that next week on the BBC. 1118 00:46:25,595 --> 00:46:26,955 Josh, so lovely to have you on. 1119 00:46:26,955 --> 00:46:29,515 You've enjoyed him this evening, ladies and gentlemen? 1120 00:46:29,515 --> 00:46:31,155 APPLAUSE 1121 00:46:31,155 --> 00:46:33,315 A brilliantly funny young man. 1122 00:46:33,315 --> 00:46:34,955 We're gonna be seeing so much more of him. 1123 00:46:34,955 --> 00:46:36,555 Thank you for coming on the show. 1124 00:46:36,555 --> 00:46:39,115 Thank you, also, to Matthew Modine, ladies and gentlemen. 1125 00:46:39,115 --> 00:46:42,355 Craig David, Oti Mabuse, and Katherine Ryan! 1126 00:46:42,355 --> 00:46:45,115 Join me again next week, where we've got Kate Hudson on the show, 1127 00:46:45,115 --> 00:46:47,875 and two of the biggest music stars this country has ever produced, 1128 00:46:47,875 --> 00:46:50,675 the fabulous Joan Armatrading will be sitting alongside Stormzy, 1129 00:46:50,675 --> 00:46:52,875 who will also be performing at the end of the show. 1130 00:46:52,875 --> 00:46:56,035 But now, with Wet Dream, here they are, the fabulous Wet Leg! 1131 00:46:56,035 --> 00:46:57,595 APPLAUSE 1132 00:47:14,475 --> 00:47:16,675 # Beam me up Beam me up 1133 00:47:16,675 --> 00:47:18,155 # Count me in Count me in 1134 00:47:18,155 --> 00:47:20,155 # Three, two, one Three, two, one 1135 00:47:20,155 --> 00:47:21,915 # Let's begin 1136 00:47:21,915 --> 00:47:25,315 # Here we go Here we go 1137 00:47:25,315 --> 00:47:28,955 # Here we go, here we go, here we go 1138 00:47:28,955 --> 00:47:32,035 # I was in your wet dream Driving in my car 1139 00:47:32,035 --> 00:47:36,275 # Saw you at the side of the road There's no-one else around 1140 00:47:36,275 --> 00:47:38,675 # You're touching yourself Touching yourself 1141 00:47:38,675 --> 00:47:41,355 # Touching your, touching yourself 1142 00:47:41,355 --> 00:47:43,115 # Touching yourself 1143 00:47:43,115 --> 00:47:46,795 # You said, "Baby, do you want To come home with me? 1144 00:47:46,795 --> 00:47:49,955 # "I've got Buffalo '66 on DVD" 1145 00:47:49,955 --> 00:47:53,515 # You said, "Baby, do you want To come home with me? 1146 00:47:53,515 --> 00:47:57,835 # "I've got Buffalo '66 on DVD" 1147 00:47:57,835 --> 00:47:59,355 # Beam me up Beam me up 1148 00:47:59,355 --> 00:48:01,555 # Count me in Count me in 1149 00:48:01,555 --> 00:48:03,115 # Three, two, one Three, two, one 1150 00:48:03,115 --> 00:48:04,395 # Let's begin 1151 00:48:04,395 --> 00:48:08,595 # Here we go Here we go 1152 00:48:08,595 --> 00:48:11,275 # Here we go, here we go, here we go 1153 00:48:11,275 --> 00:48:15,715 # I was in your wet dream Driving in my car 1154 00:48:15,715 --> 00:48:17,915 # What makes you think You're good enough 1155 00:48:17,915 --> 00:48:20,475 # To think about me When you're touching yourself? 1156 00:48:20,475 --> 00:48:21,915 # Touching yourself 1157 00:48:21,915 --> 00:48:24,075 # Touching your, touching yourself 1158 00:48:24,075 --> 00:48:25,435 # Touching yourself 1159 00:48:25,435 --> 00:48:29,675 # You climb onto the bonnet And you're licking the windscreen 1160 00:48:29,675 --> 00:48:32,955 # I've never seen anything So obscene 1161 00:48:32,955 --> 00:48:36,675 # It's enough to make a girl blush 1162 00:48:36,675 --> 00:48:40,355 # It's enough, it's enough To make a girl blush 1163 00:48:40,355 --> 00:48:47,915 # It's enough, it's enough It's enough, it's enough 1164 00:48:47,915 --> 00:48:50,395 # It's enough, it's enough, It's enough, it's enough 1165 00:48:50,395 --> 00:48:52,595 # It's enough, it's enough it's enough, it's enough 1166 00:48:52,595 --> 00:48:54,475 # To make a girl blush 1167 00:48:54,475 --> 00:48:56,675 # Beam me up Beam me up 1168 00:48:56,675 --> 00:48:58,675 # Count me in Count me in 1169 00:48:58,675 --> 00:49:00,275 # Three, two, one Three, two, one 1170 00:49:00,275 --> 00:49:01,675 # Let's begin 1171 00:49:01,675 --> 00:49:05,875 # Here we go Here we go 1172 00:49:05,875 --> 00:49:08,075 # Here we go, here we go, here we go 1173 00:49:08,075 --> 00:49:10,955 # Beam me up Beam me up 1174 00:49:10,955 --> 00:49:12,595 # Count me in Count me in 1175 00:49:12,595 --> 00:49:14,795 # Three, two, one Three, two, one 1176 00:49:14,795 --> 00:49:16,395 # Let's begin. # 1177 00:49:16,395 --> 00:49:21,555 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1178 00:49:21,555 --> 00:49:23,595 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com