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Hello, everyone.
Thank you very much.
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CHEERING CONTINUES
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Thank you so much.
Hello, everyone. Good evening.
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Hello at home, and good evening.
Welcome to The Jonathan Ross Show.
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We have got a great programme
lined up for you tonight.
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Let's have a look
at who's in my greenroom.
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First up,
a hugely talented singer
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who won
an incredible three BRIT Awards
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as part of the fabulous Little Mix.
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She's now embarking on
a solo career,
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and we're delighted
to have her here with us tonight.
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It is, of course, Perrie Edwards.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Hello, Perrie.
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Thank you for being here.
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And I'm excited about this,
cos alongside her,
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one of the best British comedians
of all time.
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He's a comedy hero of mine.
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He's influenced
countless other stand-ups.
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He's one of the funniest things
to come out of West Bromwich
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since the accent.
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The fabulous Mr Frank Skinner.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Fighting talk, Frank.
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Also on the show...
And this will excite you.
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..a brilliant choreographer,
dancer, all-round showman.
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You'll know him
as one of the stars of Strictly.
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It is the ever-so-lovable
Johannes Radebe.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Johannes!
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There's the glamour for the evening
right there.
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Plus, as if that weren't enough,
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we're joined by a brilliant
BAFTA Award-winning comedian,
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writer and actor, who's appeared
in shows as varied as The Fall,
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This Way Up, Doctor Who
and Avoidance.
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It's the always-hilarious
Aisling Bea.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Fully committed to the wave.
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And we've got music tonight
from a brilliant rock band
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who have racked up
six number-one albums.
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Of course, it's Kasabian!
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Before we get to that,
before I get my guests out,
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my absolute favourite moment
from the week
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came from this exchange
on BBC's Look North programme.
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Because sometimes, the universe
creates the perfect two stories
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and puts them side-by-side for us -
this was one of those moments.
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I've also got some PR for you.
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Aren't you on Channel 5
on Sunday night?
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Oh, no! Erm, yes, it's just...
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Can you tell us the name
of the show?
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Yeah,
When Sex On TV Goes Horribly Wrong.
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Have a nice weekend, you.
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Have a nice weekend.
And you. Bye-bye.
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Right, now... Oh, no!
Oh, dear. Awkward junction.
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Now, the famous Glory Hole walkway
in Lincoln has reopened today
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after being closed
for over a year...
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Oh, dear!
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Oh!
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They've closed
the Glory Hole walkway.
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What a blow to the tourist industry
that'll be!
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Shall we get on with the show?
AUDIENCE: Yes!
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OK, let's get
my first two guests out,
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two home-grown superstars
both at the top of their game.
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It's Perrie Edwards
and Frank Skinner.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Who's helping who down the stairs?
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THEY LAUGH
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APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH
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I want to be sat on this chair.
OK, yes.
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Well, I know Frank was
probably being a gentleman,
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but when you came out here, I
thought you had your carer with you.
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No.
Here's the exciting thing now.
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I didn't realise this until I knew
you were on the show together.
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Together, these two
very talented people have had
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nine number-one singles.
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AUDIENCE: Ooh!
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But in Frank's case,
it was four times for the same song.
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Four times at number one
with one song?
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Do you know, I had a parcel come
from the Guinness Book Of Records,
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and it was two framed certificates.
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One said, "The first song ever
to go to number one four times,"
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and the other one said,
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"The biggest drop from number one
in the history of the charts."
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And it dropped an ironic 96 places
in a week.
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Wow!
Wow!
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And I thought, "I've got showbiz in
a parcel here, the ups and downs."
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Cos, of course, that's Three Lions,
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which you must know the song
Three Lions.
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# Three lions on the shirt. #
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Is that it?
I mean, it's not bad.
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Why didn't we get you
instead of Dave?
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LAUGHTER
Here's the exciting thing,
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Perrie, last time
you were on the show,
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you were here with Little Mix.
Mm-hm.
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You were with Leigh-Anne and Jade.
Yes.
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And you've been on
in the past, as well,
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when there were four of you.
Yes.
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And now you've gone solo.
Is it weird coming out on your own?
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Is it strange doing things without
the rest of the band around you?
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Did you see me clinging on Frank
for dear life on the way out?
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It's really bizarre. It is weird,
like, not having them with me.
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Yeah.
It does feel really different.
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But do you like it?
Is it freeing in any way?
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Is it negative in some ways,
but positive, as well?
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Yeah, definitely.
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I think it was just the right time
for us to part ways,
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do our own thing.
And I just want them to win,
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so it is nice seeing them do
their own thing, as well.
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So, officially, though,
you are now a solo artist.
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Yes.
And that must have been
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quite a big jump to make, isn't it?
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Were you nervous about it?
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Yes, terrified.
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It's so different,
and it's not what I'm used to.
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So, from being 16,
I was in Little Mix,
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so I don't know any different,
so, yeah, it is quite daunting,
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but I'm having such a good time
so far.
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So, your first single is out now?
Yes.
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It's just about to come out. Called
Forget About Us, is that right?
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Yes, Forget About Us, out now.
And tell me, who wrote this song?
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Er, Ed Sheeran.
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Ed Sheeran?
Mm-hm.
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That's pretty good, isn't it?
Yeah.
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Did you reach out to Ed?
Did he reach out to you?
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How did that come about?
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So, he sent the song,
and I just loved it straightaway.
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And I think I listened to it,
like, once,
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and I was singing it again
and again and again, thinking,
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"What is that song that I keep
singing?" And it was that one.
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OK, let's have a look.
Would you like to see it?
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No-one has seen this video,
this is an exclusive.
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You're seeing it first.
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It's a great song.
Have a look at this.
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# Here's the truth of it
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# I don't want you ever
To forget about us in the front seat
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# Listening to songs
That made you think about me
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# Bonfire smoke on your hoodie
That I stole from your flat
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# No, I never gave it back
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# But I don't want you ever
To forget about us
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# I know we were never perfect
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# But I think about the life
We never had
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# Yeah, we both found different love
And we're moving on
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# Let's leave it buried
Where it was but... #
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Well done, Perrie! Good.
It's out now.
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Congratulations.
Thank you, thank you.
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Hey, Perrie, since you were last on,
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it's exciting news
in your personal life.
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I hope you don't mind me going
there, but you've become engaged.
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Yes, I'm engaged.
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Yay!
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And so, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
is the young man,
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and he is a professional footballer,
isn't he? Yes.
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Are you familiar with him?
I am.
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He was quite an important figure
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in our house
during the 2018 World Cup,
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because he was
the one Panini sticker
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that my son couldn't get...
Wow!
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..for England, and then, he missed
the World Cup through injury,
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and I think we had a sort of an omen
of that happening.
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Wow. Wow.
Oh, wow!
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Yeah, I think it was
a sticker-led absence.
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Wow! So, it's all your fault, then.
No, not our fault. Blame Panini.
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Did you ever get the sticker?
No.
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You haven't got one, have you?
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Do you think Alex might have
his own sticker to spare?
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He's got to have some.
He might have kept them all.
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That's why we couldn't get one.
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But I was just saying,
Alex plays in Turkey now.
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Yeah.
So, he's away in Turkey.
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And how long is he gonna be
playing...?
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Cos he was with Liverpool,
wasn't he?
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Yes.
And so he's signed now
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to one of the big Turkish teams.
Besiktas, yes.
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I didn't wanna say that, cos
I thought I might mispronounce it.
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That's funny.
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Do you speak any Turkish?
Have you learnt any Turkish?
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I can say "tesekkurler".
That's "thank you".
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Thank you.
That's about it.
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So, presumably, you're not spending
a lot of time in Turkey.
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No! No, no.
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Is it tricky,
keeping the relationship going?
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I mean, obviously,
you're committed to each other,
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but still, it's difficult.
Yeah, I can't lie. It is hard.
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I think when he was playing
for Liverpool,
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and he was based in Manchester,
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it was so easy
to do the back and forth.
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Yeah.
But Turkey is a little bit further,
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and he doesn't get
a lot of time off,
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and I'm trying to launch
a solo career
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whilst having a two-year-old,
so it is a lot to juggle,
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but we make it work
for the ones we love, don't we?
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And I'm sure, when you get together,
it's probably amazing.
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Yes. And we've never lived together,
anyway.
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So, the whole eight years
we've been in a relationship,
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we've never actually lived together.
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So, in actual fact,
when he comes back,
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that's when the challenge starts.
Yes, yes.
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Other than lockdown, we've never
been together for that long.
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But you've done it then, really,
cos lockdown was...
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Kind of.
..a very intense version.
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It was intense,
and I did enjoy his company,
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so I was happy about that.
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Well, I mean, I would've hoped so.
Yeah, cos I was a bit worried.
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Frank, you still do
quite a lot of material
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based on your domestic situation,
on your relationship with Cath.
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And it's not always...
It's not like you're painting
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a rosy picture of being married.
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Not necessarily.
Yeah.
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I think it's...
We've been together 23 years,
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and I think it's good
for a comedian
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to be in a long-term relationship
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because it means
awkward silences don't frighten me.
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But when we do argue,
I've always said that,
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if you watched us argue,
it would be like going to a gig
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to see a band, because we start
with some new stuff...
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Mm.
LAUGHTER
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..and then, eventually,
we roll out our greatest hits.
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LAUGHTER
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Thanks for the chord
of recognition there.
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It's total recog....
Yeah, so, I'm saying stuff like,
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"And here's a grudge of mine
you might remember from 2005."
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And off we go.
But you know the sort of thing.
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So, there's a song, though,
on the album
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about your relationship,
isn't there? Mm-hm.
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2-2 is one of the tracks
on the album.
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Yes, one of the songs.
I wrote it with Raye.
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With Raye?
Yes. Wow, amazing!
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I know, it was such a good day,
and we were just sat chilling.
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And to be fair, like,
just full disclosure,
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my partner and I,
we don't argue a lot.
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We're very laidback, very chilled.
How long have you been together?
236
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Eight years.
Eight years?
237
00:10:10,391 --> 00:10:12,071
Eight years.
That's pretty good.
238
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But you're not actually together.
That's why you're not arguing.
239
00:10:14,751 --> 00:10:18,471
Exactly. We wouldn't argue
if I lived in Turkey!
240
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LAUGHTER
241
00:10:20,631 --> 00:10:22,791
No, we're not like...
242
00:10:22,791 --> 00:10:24,991
We argue... We don't argue,
but at the same time,
243
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I can be a little bit of
a petty bitch, and I can't help it.
244
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I don't know if it's my star sign,
I don't know if it's...
245
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What star sign is that
that would be a petty bitch?
246
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Cancer. So, I'm very stubborn.
Crabby.
247
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Crab-like.
I'm crabby.
248
00:10:36,271 --> 00:10:38,471
I thought Cancer would be emotional
and open.
249
00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:40,031
Oh, I'm very emotional!
Oh, OK.
250
00:10:40,031 --> 00:10:41,711
But not in the best way.
OK.
251
00:10:41,711 --> 00:10:44,271
And you don't argue, you say?
Not really, no,
252
00:10:44,271 --> 00:10:46,911
but I will hold a grudge
for anything that he might say.
253
00:10:46,911 --> 00:10:49,111
What sort of things
would you hold a grudge over?
254
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I don't know.
I'll just, like, take it
255
00:10:50,871 --> 00:10:53,751
and really just take it for ages,
long it out.
256
00:10:53,751 --> 00:10:55,031
Oh, no.
But small things?
257
00:10:55,031 --> 00:10:56,951
Yeah. I'd rather have
an argument any time.
258
00:10:56,951 --> 00:10:58,591
I don't like arguing, though.
I hate it.
259
00:10:58,591 --> 00:11:00,311
I used to play that game
with my partner,
260
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that "guess why I'm upset" game.
Yeah, that's what I do.
261
00:11:03,591 --> 00:11:06,031
Oh, we've played it
for two or three days.
262
00:11:06,031 --> 00:11:08,231
It's like a test match.
Yeah.
263
00:11:08,231 --> 00:11:10,191
Yea, it just goes on and on.
264
00:11:10,191 --> 00:11:13,311
Oh, I just can't help the way I am.
265
00:11:13,311 --> 00:11:15,951
I'm just like that, but we just
started writing a song about it,
266
00:11:15,951 --> 00:11:18,151
and I just thought the lyrics
were super relatable.
267
00:11:18,151 --> 00:11:20,591
And why should you have to change?
He loves you for who you are.
268
00:11:20,591 --> 00:11:24,471
Exactly. And if he just said sorry,
everything would be fine quickly.
269
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Have you ever considered
having a yellow card,
270
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just as a warning?
271
00:11:30,471 --> 00:11:32,831
Just holding it.
272
00:11:32,831 --> 00:11:35,471
I've just heard he's signed
to Turkey for another five years.
273
00:11:35,471 --> 00:11:37,231
Yeah, do you know why?
274
00:11:37,231 --> 00:11:40,111
But he'd love the yellow card.
My partner said to me...
275
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We had an argument once,
and she said,
276
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"I've noticed you don't even watch
me when I get undressed any more."
277
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Oh!
And so, that night,
278
00:11:47,791 --> 00:11:51,391
I had this big pair of,
like, horse-racing binoculars
279
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that I kept under the duvet,
280
00:11:54,311 --> 00:11:56,991
and I waited for ages,
and I thought,
281
00:11:56,991 --> 00:11:58,111
"I'm just gonna wait."
282
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And she turned round,
and there I was.
283
00:11:59,951 --> 00:12:04,391
But, Frank,
you know that isn't what she wanted.
284
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No, but that's what she loves me
for, ultimately.
285
00:12:07,231 --> 00:12:10,431
Yeah.
Pranking. That's what she loves.
286
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For the bants.
OK, what about your son?
287
00:12:13,671 --> 00:12:15,871
You've got a little two-year-old.
Yes.
288
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Axel is his name, I believe.
289
00:12:17,231 --> 00:12:19,431
Yeah, Axel. And does he like
listening to you sing?
290
00:12:19,431 --> 00:12:21,631
Does he like the album?
Does he like what you do?
291
00:12:21,631 --> 00:12:23,391
He loves it.
AUDIENCE: Aww.
292
00:12:23,391 --> 00:12:25,431
I know, he's so cute!
293
00:12:25,431 --> 00:12:28,191
Like, I look at him,
and I'm like, "I made that."
294
00:12:28,191 --> 00:12:31,431
Like, I made him. Not all by myself,
obviously. I had a bit of help.
295
00:12:31,431 --> 00:12:35,831
But he's just, honestly...
Yeah, I think Alex gets the assist.
296
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LAUGHTER
297
00:12:37,551 --> 00:12:39,911
Don't you think
he's exactly like him?
298
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He is. He does...
299
00:12:41,511 --> 00:12:44,311
Even I got that, Frank,
and I don't know football.
300
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LAUGHTER
Did you say he's called Axel?
301
00:12:47,631 --> 00:12:49,591
Axel, yeah.
After Axl Rose?
302
00:12:49,591 --> 00:12:51,191
Yeah, yes.
Fantastic!
303
00:12:51,191 --> 00:12:52,991
I love Axl Rose.
This is interesting cos...
304
00:12:52,991 --> 00:12:55,471
My son's called Slash.
305
00:12:55,471 --> 00:12:57,351
LAUGHTER
No, he isn't.
306
00:12:57,351 --> 00:13:00,071
Your son, am I right in thinking
he's developed
307
00:13:00,071 --> 00:13:02,111
a real interest
in that kind of music?
308
00:13:02,111 --> 00:13:05,071
Well, we went and saw Slash,
actually, last week, live.
309
00:13:05,071 --> 00:13:06,271
Really?
310
00:13:06,271 --> 00:13:09,791
And, yeah, he's absolutely mad
for heavy metal, my son.
311
00:13:09,791 --> 00:13:11,191
He plays guitar.
312
00:13:11,191 --> 00:13:13,671
I went past his bedroom today,
and I could just hear...
313
00:13:13,671 --> 00:13:16,031
IMITATES GUITAR
..coming from inside it.
314
00:13:16,031 --> 00:13:18,751
I love that.
Yeah, so, we've been to see...
315
00:13:18,751 --> 00:13:22,191
We've been to see,
in the last year, Kiss, Slipknot,
316
00:13:22,191 --> 00:13:23,911
Metallica, Def Leppard...
Slipknot?!
317
00:13:23,911 --> 00:13:26,151
How old was he when you took him
to see Slipknot?
318
00:13:26,151 --> 00:13:27,951
I think 11's all right for Slipknot.
319
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LAUGHTER
320
00:13:29,391 --> 00:13:32,551
Frank, though...
And you would love this, I'm sure.
321
00:13:32,551 --> 00:13:34,871
Frank has got a new show on
in the West End.
322
00:13:34,871 --> 00:13:36,111
I went to see it already.
323
00:13:36,111 --> 00:13:38,671
It is fantastic,
as you would expect.
324
00:13:38,671 --> 00:13:42,231
And it's called, am I right
in thinking, 30 Years Of Dirt?
325
00:13:42,231 --> 00:13:44,511
That's correct.
OK. Now, the title, obviously,
326
00:13:44,511 --> 00:13:47,951
is a play on words from
the four-times number one single.
327
00:13:47,951 --> 00:13:50,511
But at the same time,
what does it mean to you?
328
00:13:50,511 --> 00:13:51,991
Why did you choose that?
329
00:13:51,991 --> 00:13:54,871
Well, I... My stand-up career
330
00:13:54,871 --> 00:13:58,711
has been almost an endless stream
of filth,
331
00:13:58,711 --> 00:14:01,391
and it's not really been my idea.
332
00:14:01,391 --> 00:14:04,671
I often start off with quite a lot
of clean material in it.
333
00:14:04,671 --> 00:14:06,991
You probably found this
with Little Mix, as well.
334
00:14:06,991 --> 00:14:08,591
LAUGHTER
335
00:14:08,591 --> 00:14:11,631
And then the audience laugh
a lot louder at the dirty stuff,
336
00:14:11,631 --> 00:14:14,071
so I got rid of the clean stuff
and stuck with it.
337
00:14:14,071 --> 00:14:18,071
So, they were the opposite
of a filter, the audience.
338
00:14:18,071 --> 00:14:21,791
They left all the muck in. And then
I thought, it's always been -
339
00:14:21,791 --> 00:14:26,791
at school, in the factory,
in the pub - knob jokes,
340
00:14:26,791 --> 00:14:29,271
if I may use that term on ITV.
341
00:14:29,271 --> 00:14:32,751
They were like the language
that we spoke in the West Midlands.
342
00:14:32,751 --> 00:14:37,031
I went to visit Hull Minster,
you know, the big church in Hull,
343
00:14:37,031 --> 00:14:39,391
and I met this guy who worked there.
344
00:14:39,391 --> 00:14:42,471
And it was a hot day. He was in,
like, shorts and a T-shirt
345
00:14:42,471 --> 00:14:44,311
with the Hull Minster badge.
346
00:14:44,311 --> 00:14:46,671
And he said, "Would you like to go
to the top of the tower?
347
00:14:46,671 --> 00:14:49,511
"It's not open today, but because
you're you, I'll take you up."
348
00:14:49,511 --> 00:14:52,991
I said, "That's lovely." He said,
"It's a fantastic view from the top.
349
00:14:52,991 --> 00:14:55,231
"OK, it's of Hull, but..."
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Whay!
350
00:14:55,231 --> 00:14:56,871
LAUGHTER
351
00:14:56,871 --> 00:14:58,751
So, anyway, he went up the stairs,
and he said,
352
00:14:58,751 --> 00:15:01,471
"When we get halfway up, you'll be
able to see the bell mechanism."
353
00:15:01,471 --> 00:15:03,951
I said, "I'm not surprised
in those shorts." And...
354
00:15:03,951 --> 00:15:05,671
LAUGHTER
355
00:15:05,671 --> 00:15:08,311
And it gave me...
356
00:15:08,311 --> 00:15:12,351
It gave me such joy,
such simple joy.
357
00:15:13,511 --> 00:15:15,711
We've got to go to a break,
but I've got more questions
358
00:15:15,711 --> 00:15:17,431
for both of you,
so please stay put.
359
00:15:17,431 --> 00:15:19,631
We are gonna take a short break,
but don't go away,
360
00:15:19,631 --> 00:15:21,871
because up next,
we'll be joined by Johannes Radebe.
361
00:15:21,871 --> 00:15:23,631
We'll see you
in a couple of minutes.
362
00:15:23,631 --> 00:15:25,831
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
363
00:15:29,380 --> 00:15:31,900
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
364
00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:36,940
Welcome back to the show.
Let's get my next guest out now.
365
00:15:36,940 --> 00:15:40,220
And this is gonna be exciting, cos
he brings real energy to the couch.
366
00:15:40,220 --> 00:15:42,580
He's one of the break-out stars
of Strictly Come Dancing.
367
00:15:42,580 --> 00:15:45,900
It is, of course,
the fabulous Johannes Radebe.
368
00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:48,100
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
369
00:15:55,860 --> 00:15:58,060
PERRIE: Oh, I love it!
370
00:15:59,580 --> 00:16:01,420
Oh, stop!
371
00:16:01,420 --> 00:16:04,300
I love it! I love it, I love it!
372
00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:06,180
Hello.
Oh, man!
373
00:16:06,180 --> 00:16:08,180
Johannes, you look fabulous,
of course.
374
00:16:08,180 --> 00:16:09,500
Doesn't he look fabulous?
375
00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:11,100
CHEERING
That's so nice.
376
00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:13,620
Of course. Everyone looks fabulous.
377
00:16:13,620 --> 00:16:16,660
I need to rest for a minute, cos
that's my energy for the day gone.
378
00:16:16,660 --> 00:16:17,820
Oh!
379
00:16:17,820 --> 00:16:21,900
Johannes is currently on tour
with his own show, House Of Jojo.
380
00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:23,020
Yes, sir.
381
00:16:23,020 --> 00:16:25,460
And this is a big tour.
You've been doing it for a while,
382
00:16:25,460 --> 00:16:28,140
and it's on until the middle
of June, or early June? Yep.
383
00:16:28,140 --> 00:16:29,820
Wow! Where have you performed
so far?
384
00:16:29,820 --> 00:16:32,900
Where have been the standout places
for you? What have you enjoyed?
385
00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:34,740
What has surprised you
in the experience?
386
00:16:34,740 --> 00:16:37,620
You know what? I've been doing it
for the past three years now.
387
00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:39,500
Wow!
But I absolutely...
388
00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:41,340
We opened in High Wycombe.
389
00:16:41,340 --> 00:16:43,820
I said the hospitality
was beautiful.
390
00:16:44,780 --> 00:16:48,100
And then Southampton was rockers.
It was a party.
391
00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:50,140
You don't have to go
through every date.
392
00:16:50,140 --> 00:16:53,740
Just a couple of the highlights
would be lovely.
393
00:16:53,740 --> 00:16:55,060
OK, no, Southampton...
394
00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:56,940
How were the sausage rolls
in Bridlington?
395
00:16:56,940 --> 00:16:58,780
Oh, they...!
LAUGHTER
396
00:16:58,780 --> 00:17:01,020
I've opened my show there
for the past two years.
397
00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:03,900
I absolutely love that gem
on the east coast.
398
00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:05,700
Wow!
I really do.
399
00:17:05,700 --> 00:17:07,540
I would live out in Bridlington
if I could.
400
00:17:07,540 --> 00:17:09,300
Wow!
It's quiet.
401
00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:11,100
Well, you'd fit right in, then.
402
00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:13,740
LAUGHTER
403
00:17:13,740 --> 00:17:15,500
True.
We all love Strictly, of course.
404
00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:16,700
I know you're a fan, Perrie.
405
00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:19,020
But Frank is a real super fan,
aren't you?
406
00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:22,260
Yeah, me and my son went
to the live show
407
00:17:22,260 --> 00:17:25,060
at the O2 and stuff, but we love...
408
00:17:25,060 --> 00:17:28,260
I have to say
that Jojo is our favourite.
409
00:17:28,260 --> 00:17:30,700
I'm not just saying that
cos he's here.
410
00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:35,180
But I was watching you
and John dance... Yeah.
411
00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:38,260
..and I said to my son,
who was about nine at the time,
412
00:17:38,260 --> 00:17:41,020
"You know,
when I was growing up in Birmingham,
413
00:17:41,020 --> 00:17:44,020
"gay men used to get beat up
in the street for being gay men.
414
00:17:44,020 --> 00:17:48,420
"And now, we are watching
the biggest show on television -
415
00:17:48,420 --> 00:17:51,340
"not only is there
two gay men dancing,
416
00:17:51,340 --> 00:17:53,300
"but they are loved by the public."
417
00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:57,260
And I said to him, "You are
growing up in wondrous times."
418
00:17:57,260 --> 00:17:59,580
You know, it's amazing.
Yep, yep.
419
00:17:59,580 --> 00:18:01,380
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
420
00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:04,780
Oh! Frank mustn't do that to me.
421
00:18:04,780 --> 00:18:08,300
Frank, if you only knew.
I'm a hot mess. I'll start crying.
422
00:18:08,300 --> 00:18:10,500
No, but you know...
Aw.
423
00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:13,260
No, that is the absolute truth,
you know.
424
00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:16,900
I come from Africa, you know,
and I have to say I've spent
425
00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:19,100
the past seven years
in this country,
426
00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:22,380
and it has been
absolutely wonderful. I feel seen.
427
00:18:22,380 --> 00:18:26,940
And that experience
really brought...
428
00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:30,060
a certain confidence to me
that I cannot tell you.
429
00:18:30,060 --> 00:18:32,220
I've never had that, you know.
430
00:18:32,220 --> 00:18:35,940
It's restored my faith in humanity,
that experience.
431
00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:37,980
And to hear people...
432
00:18:39,540 --> 00:18:43,500
..give feedback as to how beautiful
it was, that really humbles me.
433
00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:45,980
Well, it was
a very important moment,
434
00:18:45,980 --> 00:18:47,940
as well as a very beautiful moment.
435
00:18:47,940 --> 00:18:49,820
Yeah.
Frank, you're gonna make me cry.
436
00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:52,020
I think, if you've got a kid,
especially, yeah.
437
00:18:52,020 --> 00:18:53,940
APPLAUSE
438
00:18:53,940 --> 00:18:56,780
That is so cute.
Thank you.
439
00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:58,260
Johannes...
Yeah.
440
00:18:58,260 --> 00:19:00,620
..I can see Frank's gonna keep going
441
00:19:00,620 --> 00:19:03,020
until you actually cry,
you know that, don't you?
442
00:19:03,020 --> 00:19:04,300
No, no.
443
00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:05,940
No, no.
I've got tears in my eyes.
444
00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:08,580
I've been asked to do Strictly.
You've been asked to do Strictly?
445
00:19:08,580 --> 00:19:09,700
A few times.
446
00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:12,100
I didn't mean to sound surprised.
Of course you have.
447
00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:14,420
No, but my partner persuaded me
448
00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:16,860
to go on a lads' weekend
to Amsterdam instead.
449
00:19:16,860 --> 00:19:19,060
She thought there'd be
less temptation.
450
00:19:19,060 --> 00:19:21,260
LAUGHTER
451
00:19:22,780 --> 00:19:25,900
Wow, you should have come
and danced with me!
452
00:19:25,900 --> 00:19:28,380
I know. But the curse!
What about the curse?
453
00:19:28,380 --> 00:19:30,580
Oh, no!
I'm already in love with you.
454
00:19:30,580 --> 00:19:32,740
That would have been impossible.
455
00:19:32,740 --> 00:19:36,100
So, Frank, you have been
genuinely asked. And can you dance?
456
00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:38,100
I've never seen you dance,
I don't think.
457
00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:41,020
I am so self-conscious.
I have turned...
458
00:19:41,020 --> 00:19:44,100
I love, if I may mention a show
on another channel,
459
00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:45,940
Michael McIntyre's The Wheel.
460
00:19:45,940 --> 00:19:47,500
I love the show, but there's a bit
461
00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:49,820
where they dance
when the wheel spins.
462
00:19:49,820 --> 00:19:53,220
I can't do that. I would rather...
463
00:19:53,220 --> 00:19:56,300
And it's good money,
but I would rather turn it down.
464
00:19:56,300 --> 00:19:58,180
LAUGHTER
465
00:19:58,180 --> 00:19:59,260
Perrie...
Yes.
466
00:19:59,260 --> 00:20:01,820
..you are a big fan of the show,
so they maybe haven't asked you.
467
00:20:01,820 --> 00:20:03,620
If they were to ask you...
Mm-hm.
468
00:20:03,620 --> 00:20:05,900
Because people would love
to see you on it, I'm sure.
469
00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:09,100
Would you consider doing it?
I think I'd be really scared.
470
00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:11,700
You know, in the band,
at the very beginning,
471
00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:14,140
we went to rehearsals,
and I was like,
472
00:20:14,140 --> 00:20:16,660
"I'm so excited to go to rehearsals,
see what it's all about."
473
00:20:16,660 --> 00:20:18,340
They were like,
"Here are your dancers,
474
00:20:18,340 --> 00:20:19,860
"and this is your choreography,"
475
00:20:19,860 --> 00:20:23,100
and I remember just crying my eyes
out and being like, "What?"
476
00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:24,900
And I went to my manager,
and I was like,
477
00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:27,980
"I'm gonna have to leave the band."
And they were like, "Why?"
478
00:20:27,980 --> 00:20:30,340
And I was like,
"Cos I can't really dance.
479
00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:32,140
"I don't wanna dance."
And they were like,
480
00:20:32,140 --> 00:20:34,340
"Well, you have to,
cos it's the girl band,
481
00:20:34,340 --> 00:20:37,220
"it's the dancing, it's the choreo.
It's what makes the whole thing."
482
00:20:37,220 --> 00:20:39,260
It's part of the appeal.
But I was just so terrified
483
00:20:39,260 --> 00:20:42,340
and so uncomfortable dancing
that I just didn't wanna do it,
484
00:20:42,340 --> 00:20:44,980
cos I just wanted to stand
and sing, do you know?
485
00:20:44,980 --> 00:20:47,540
I get what you're saying.
And it was so hard to dance and sing
486
00:20:47,540 --> 00:20:49,740
at the same time, as well.
But you mastered it.
487
00:20:49,740 --> 00:20:51,460
I've seen you perform,
and you're amazing.
488
00:20:51,460 --> 00:20:52,820
It's a confidence thing, though.
489
00:20:52,820 --> 00:20:55,020
When you don't feel confident
in your own body,
490
00:20:55,020 --> 00:20:56,340
it doesn't move right.
491
00:20:56,340 --> 00:20:59,220
But you say that. After all
these years, what has happened?
492
00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:01,020
Well, now I love it.
Absolutely.
493
00:21:01,020 --> 00:21:02,980
Now I absolutely love dancing.
494
00:21:02,980 --> 00:21:06,020
You'd be great on Strictly.
I actually would love it.
495
00:21:06,020 --> 00:21:07,620
Well, would you do it?
496
00:21:07,620 --> 00:21:09,820
Yeah.
Wow!
497
00:21:09,820 --> 00:21:11,100
I think I would, I think I would.
498
00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:13,340
Oh, the BBC, it's a big one, that!
499
00:21:13,340 --> 00:21:16,900
If I did it, you know when you get
the old guy who does it?
500
00:21:16,900 --> 00:21:18,340
You know what it would be?
501
00:21:18,340 --> 00:21:20,580
They'd have me dressed
as a giant grouse
502
00:21:20,580 --> 00:21:23,100
dancing to Shotgun by George Ezra.
503
00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:25,460
LAUGHTER
504
00:21:25,460 --> 00:21:27,620
It would just be excru...
505
00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:29,820
But you should do it.
You'd be great on it.
506
00:21:29,820 --> 00:21:31,500
So, Jojo, you don't know in advance
507
00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:34,100
who you're gonna be partnered with,
do you?
508
00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:35,860
How long before the show
do they tell you
509
00:21:35,860 --> 00:21:38,060
who you're gonna be helping?
Partnered with.
510
00:21:38,060 --> 00:21:41,820
Erm, depends, you know,
but it's very close to the time.
511
00:21:41,820 --> 00:21:44,020
And I think it's important
that they do that,
512
00:21:44,020 --> 00:21:47,420
because I think all us pros
are going mad in our heads.
513
00:21:47,420 --> 00:21:51,660
But, yeah, right now, I'm still
waiting for the phone call.
514
00:21:51,660 --> 00:21:52,860
Yeah.
Fingers crossed...
515
00:21:52,860 --> 00:21:55,060
This is the phone call,
not who you're partnered with,
516
00:21:55,060 --> 00:21:56,900
whether you're even
on the next series? Yes.
517
00:21:56,900 --> 00:21:59,100
They haven't even told you that yet?
No, not yet.
518
00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:01,060
Oh, come on!
They're gonna have to have you on.
519
00:22:01,060 --> 00:22:03,500
You must feel quite...
quietly confident.
520
00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:06,420
Yeah.
No! Jonathan!
521
00:22:06,420 --> 00:22:07,820
LAUGHTER
522
00:22:07,820 --> 00:22:09,020
What?!
523
00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:12,060
Everybody wants this job,
do you know what I mean?
524
00:22:12,060 --> 00:22:14,580
So, the reason why
it is such a thing
525
00:22:14,580 --> 00:22:18,380
is because it is great to be
a part of it, you know,
526
00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:21,140
because there are people
that are waiting in the wings
527
00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:22,660
to snatch the job.
528
00:22:22,660 --> 00:22:26,260
JOHANNES LAUGHS
Younger people?
529
00:22:26,260 --> 00:22:28,900
Hotter.
Jojo!
530
00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:31,100
I don't think that's possible.
Come on!
531
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:32,420
You can't be worried about that!
532
00:22:32,420 --> 00:22:33,860
Oh...
533
00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:36,060
LAUGHTER
534
00:22:36,060 --> 00:22:38,900
Jojo knows he's safe.
535
00:22:40,060 --> 00:22:42,540
There's been a lot of firsts
that you've created on Strictly,
536
00:22:42,540 --> 00:22:44,540
cos I believe you were
the first male dancer
537
00:22:44,540 --> 00:22:46,260
they had dancing in heels
on the show.
538
00:22:46,260 --> 00:22:48,460
Yes, sir.
And it was the first time...
539
00:22:48,460 --> 00:22:50,660
And this happened
when you were dancing with John.
540
00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:52,220
..where a man lifted another man.
541
00:22:52,220 --> 00:22:55,660
That must have been, I would have
thought, quite a moment for you.
542
00:22:55,660 --> 00:22:58,100
It really was, it really was.
543
00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:00,580
He lifted me
like I was a piece of feather.
544
00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:01,860
LAUGHTER
545
00:23:01,860 --> 00:23:04,820
And you're obviously a very fit man,
but you're quite a big man.
546
00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:07,540
Listen, I'm a horse, am I not?
547
00:23:07,540 --> 00:23:09,580
LAUGHTER
548
00:23:10,620 --> 00:23:12,980
A horse?
549
00:23:12,980 --> 00:23:16,140
"I'm a horse"? I love the way
you said that, as well.
550
00:23:16,140 --> 00:23:18,180
"I'm a horse, am I not?"
551
00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:19,940
LAUGHTER
552
00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:22,260
It felt like Dr Seuss.
553
00:23:22,260 --> 00:23:24,420
I must admit, I had heard that.
554
00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:27,020
LAUGHTER
555
00:23:27,020 --> 00:23:28,900
No, no...
556
00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:31,180
But you are a well-built man.
557
00:23:31,180 --> 00:23:33,500
I'm a well-built man,
and I think, you know,
558
00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:35,380
I've always lifted women,
559
00:23:35,380 --> 00:23:39,020
and I think I know the level of care
that goes into that,
560
00:23:39,020 --> 00:23:42,500
and I know they always land
on the floor, and they say,
561
00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:45,260
"Oh, Johannes, thank you for that.
I felt like I was flying."
562
00:23:45,260 --> 00:23:48,860
So, for me to experience it for
the first time was quite special.
563
00:23:48,860 --> 00:23:52,780
And I have to thank John Whaite
for really being del...
564
00:23:52,780 --> 00:23:55,300
you know, caring with me.
565
00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:58,900
He was quite patient, you know,
while I was trying to figure it out.
566
00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:01,700
Because we didn't have a template
as to how we were gonna do it.
567
00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:03,740
Of course.
Were you nervous about being lifted?
568
00:24:03,740 --> 00:24:05,660
Was there a fear
that he might actually...?
569
00:24:05,660 --> 00:24:08,740
Drop me? Or he might not even
get me up in the air?
570
00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:09,900
I mean, what are we trying?
571
00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:12,140
Two blokes trying to do
some ballroom dancing?
572
00:24:12,140 --> 00:24:13,180
I mean, it's mad!
573
00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:16,020
Never in my lifetime did I think
that would ever happen.
574
00:24:16,020 --> 00:24:19,140
So, the fact that John was willing
to do things
575
00:24:19,140 --> 00:24:21,540
really set us apart
from the rest of the competition.
576
00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:23,420
And when you spoke about it
beforehand,
577
00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:25,780
did he need to reassure you,
or did you have to reassure him
578
00:24:25,780 --> 00:24:28,540
that what you were doing was doable,
that he could manage it?
579
00:24:28,540 --> 00:24:30,580
The truth is,
for the first time in my life,
580
00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:33,900
I've had somebody say to me,
Jonathan, "I've got you."
581
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:35,820
ALL: Aww!
582
00:24:35,820 --> 00:24:38,740
The police were the first people
who said that to me.
583
00:24:38,740 --> 00:24:40,660
LAUGHTER
584
00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:44,540
APPLAUSE
585
00:24:44,540 --> 00:24:46,420
Oh, dear.
586
00:24:48,340 --> 00:24:50,980
You know...
I can't take him anywhere.
587
00:24:50,980 --> 00:24:52,900
But we were talking about
going on Strictly.
588
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:55,100
I was told by someone...
I don't know if it's true.
589
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:57,420
..that your favourite TV show,
Perrie, is actually...
590
00:24:57,420 --> 00:25:00,220
not Embarrassing Bodies,
it's Naked Attraction?
591
00:25:00,220 --> 00:25:02,820
Yeah.
592
00:25:02,820 --> 00:25:05,540
Jojo, have you ever seen
Naked Attraction?
593
00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:07,540
Once.
Once.
594
00:25:07,540 --> 00:25:09,580
Once was enough for me, as well.
595
00:25:11,580 --> 00:25:13,460
I just find it fascinating.
I don't know.
596
00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:15,220
It's like you shouldn't be
watching it,
597
00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:17,660
but you can't help but watch it.
You know, one of them,
598
00:25:17,660 --> 00:25:19,860
where you're, like,
"This is really uncomfortable,
599
00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:22,260
"but I wanna see more," like that.
It's so bizarre.
600
00:25:22,260 --> 00:25:24,540
And do you watch it alone
or with the girls from the band?
601
00:25:24,540 --> 00:25:26,980
Who do you watch it with?
When we lived in Manchester,
602
00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:29,340
our TVs were connected
in every room,
603
00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:32,460
so whatever Sky box you were on
or whatever TV channel you were on,
604
00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:34,180
it was linked.
That's risky!
605
00:25:34,180 --> 00:25:37,220
Yep! And I went to bed,
and it was on.
606
00:25:37,220 --> 00:25:39,860
And it's always on really late,
when there's not much on.
607
00:25:39,860 --> 00:25:41,540
Mm-hm.
So, I was scrolling through,
608
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:43,780
and I was like, "Bit of
Naked Attraction, go on, then."
609
00:25:43,780 --> 00:25:46,060
So, I'm watching it,
minding my own business,
610
00:25:46,060 --> 00:25:48,300
thinking, "Tee-hee."
And then, I just get, like...
611
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:51,380
The door just bursts open,
and it's my mother-in-law.
612
00:25:51,380 --> 00:25:54,700
And bearing in mind,
she's quite a well-to-do lady,
613
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:56,700
she's very respectful,
bit of a prude.
614
00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:59,620
And she went,
"What on Earth is on my TV?"
615
00:25:59,620 --> 00:26:02,180
And I was like, "You can see...?"
And she was like...
616
00:26:02,180 --> 00:26:03,980
So, it was playing in her room,
as well?
617
00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:06,180
It was playing in her room,
so she was watching, like,
618
00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:08,060
a nice movie before bed,
and I've went in,
619
00:26:08,060 --> 00:26:10,580
I'm like, "Interesting! Yeah!"
620
00:26:10,580 --> 00:26:14,820
And she just ran in, mortified,
thinking I'd put it on by accident.
621
00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:17,260
And I was like,
"How on Earth has that come on?
622
00:26:17,260 --> 00:26:21,500
"Why would anyone put that on?"
I was so embarrassed.
623
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,700
And you do see some sights
on that show.
624
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:26,140
Oh, it's the questions she asks,
though, as well.
625
00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:28,100
Yeah.
I think it's brilliant.
626
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:32,820
I saw one, and the guy was talking
about the women's private parts.
627
00:26:32,820 --> 00:26:35,060
Yep.
And they said, "What do you think?"
628
00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:37,780
And he said,
"It's not very welcoming, is it?"
629
00:26:37,780 --> 00:26:39,820
LAUGHTER
630
00:26:39,820 --> 00:26:42,060
It's brilliant!
631
00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:44,500
I thought...
It's so good.
632
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:47,420
.."What do you want? A porch light?"
633
00:26:47,420 --> 00:26:49,260
LAUGHTER
634
00:26:49,260 --> 00:26:51,580
Stop!
Oh, my gosh...
635
00:26:51,580 --> 00:26:53,860
Oh, my gosh, I can't.
636
00:26:53,860 --> 00:26:55,140
OK, let's get back to the show.
637
00:26:55,140 --> 00:26:59,500
So, Jojo, the House Of Jojo
UK tour has begun.
638
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:02,140
It's going on until June.
What do you see on stage?
639
00:27:02,140 --> 00:27:03,500
When people come to the show...
640
00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:06,180
You mentioned dancing to some
of the music that you grew up with.
641
00:27:06,180 --> 00:27:07,260
Yeah.
642
00:27:07,260 --> 00:27:09,540
But what do we actually see?
Cos it's a fabulous poster.
643
00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:11,700
I can't wait for my mum to see that.
644
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:13,420
LAUGHTER
645
00:27:13,420 --> 00:27:15,260
The truth of the matter is,
646
00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:18,140
it was designed to bring joy
and laughter,
647
00:27:18,140 --> 00:27:20,140
and it encourages a lot of love.
648
00:27:20,140 --> 00:27:22,300
Is there a storyline to the show?
649
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:24,100
Yeah, there's a narrative, you know.
650
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:27,100
A theatre show, like a dance show,
651
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:31,020
I always think it is nice
when people come and have fun,
652
00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:34,620
but we also touch
on human qualities,
653
00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:35,980
which is love,
654
00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:38,900
and we reflect on what is happening
in the world right now.
655
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:41,100
But it ends up in a big procession,
656
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:43,860
where everybody walks out,
boogieing out of the theatre.
657
00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:45,900
Big boogie on the way out.
Yeah, yeah.
658
00:27:45,900 --> 00:27:47,100
Let's have a look at the show.
659
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:51,060
This is House Of Jojo,
and it's touring until 2nd June,
660
00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:52,940
and it looks spectacular.
661
00:27:52,940 --> 00:27:56,700
MUSIC: 'I Need You'
by Ofri Flint
662
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:11,780
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
663
00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:14,100
That's House Of Jojo.
664
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:16,060
Treat yourself to a ticket or two.
665
00:28:16,060 --> 00:28:17,660
I'm gonna go and see it with Frank.
666
00:28:17,660 --> 00:28:19,820
We're gonna have a boys' night out,
667
00:28:19,820 --> 00:28:22,020
go and see House Of Jojo
when it's playing in London.
668
00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:25,220
Definitely. I'm up for that.
Exciting news, as well, though,
669
00:28:25,220 --> 00:28:26,980
because after
House Of Jojo finishes,
670
00:28:26,980 --> 00:28:28,820
and hopefully,
you'll be doing Strictly...
671
00:28:28,820 --> 00:28:30,380
Yes.
But then at the end of the year...
672
00:28:30,380 --> 00:28:32,380
And you're gonna make
the announcement now.
673
00:28:32,380 --> 00:28:34,260
..you're going into a big musical.
674
00:28:34,260 --> 00:28:36,420
It's my first musical.
675
00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:39,380
It's my musical debut, honestly.
PERRIE GASPS
676
00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:42,180
I know. And I'm a late bloomer.
677
00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:44,140
Erm...
LAUGHTER
678
00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:47,100
But I have the opportunity to do...
679
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,620
to play Lola in Kinky Boots.
680
00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:51,980
Kinky Boots.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
681
00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:54,260
Oh, my gosh!
682
00:28:54,260 --> 00:28:59,940
Oh!
There he is, in those titular boots.
683
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:02,380
HE LAUGHS
Listen, this is...
684
00:29:02,380 --> 00:29:06,020
Everything I've done in my career, I
feel like it is led to this moment.
685
00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:07,740
It's been leading to this moment.
686
00:29:07,740 --> 00:29:10,180
Presumably, you've seen the show,
and you love the show.
687
00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:12,380
I do, I do. I followed it
since its inception.
688
00:29:12,380 --> 00:29:15,860
And you'll be singing, as well.
Which is the first for me.
689
00:29:15,860 --> 00:29:18,380
Wow!
Yeah. It's been two years now,
690
00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:19,900
I've been taking my singing lessons,
691
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:22,620
because I've known about the job
for two years.
692
00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:24,100
But I just wanted to bring myself,
693
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,860
just to respect people
that have come before me, you know.
694
00:29:27,860 --> 00:29:31,500
I wanted to put in the work
before I could say yes,
695
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:33,980
but I'm grateful
that my producers waited
696
00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:36,540
until I was ready to audition.
Exciting news.
697
00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:39,100
So, that was obviously on what
we call a bucket list, I guess,
698
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:41,540
things you want to achieve
in your life. Absolutely.
699
00:29:41,540 --> 00:29:43,860
Oh, Jonathan, you know,
I wanna work to a point
700
00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:48,100
where I'm not desperate any more,
and this gives me that, yeah.
701
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:51,420
Well, it gives you... Exactly.
Yeah.
702
00:29:51,420 --> 00:29:53,420
Ah, that's so good!
703
00:29:55,620 --> 00:29:58,500
That's exciting news, Jojo. We'll
come and see you in that, as well.
704
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:00,260
We're gonna take a break,
but don't go away.
705
00:30:00,260 --> 00:30:02,820
Up next, we'll be joined by
the brilliantly funny Aisling Bea.
706
00:30:02,820 --> 00:30:05,180
See you in a couple of minutes.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
707
00:30:12,050 --> 00:30:14,370
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
708
00:30:14,370 --> 00:30:16,930
Welcome back.
Welcome back to the show.
709
00:30:16,930 --> 00:30:18,810
Let's get my next guest
right out here.
710
00:30:18,810 --> 00:30:21,650
She is an award-winning comedian,
actor and writer.
711
00:30:21,650 --> 00:30:23,970
She's always a fabulous guest,
as well.
712
00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:26,410
Will you please welcome Aisling Bea!
713
00:30:26,410 --> 00:30:28,250
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
714
00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:39,810
Thank you.
715
00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:41,210
Hi, guys!
716
00:30:41,210 --> 00:30:42,650
Hello.
Hi, friends.
717
00:30:42,650 --> 00:30:45,130
Aisling, come and sit down here.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Love you!
718
00:30:45,130 --> 00:30:47,530
Oh, thank you, Mother,
for coming to the show.
719
00:30:47,530 --> 00:30:48,890
It's great to have you here.
720
00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:50,530
Thank you for coming back on.
Thank you.
721
00:30:50,530 --> 00:30:53,050
I know you're... I'm presuming
you're a fan of everyone here.
722
00:30:53,050 --> 00:30:56,690
No, not everyone, Jonathan, but it
would be unprofessional to say who.
723
00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:58,890
OK. Little Mix, though,
you were a big fan of.
724
00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:00,490
Oh, my God, like, obsessed.
725
00:31:00,490 --> 00:31:03,810
I can't believe I'm on the couch
with Perrie from Little Mix.
726
00:31:03,810 --> 00:31:06,410
When we were...
727
00:31:06,410 --> 00:31:10,090
Prince Harry and Meghan
came to Ireland on a trip,
728
00:31:10,090 --> 00:31:12,010
and the Irish government
collected...
729
00:31:12,010 --> 00:31:14,210
Like, "Who do we get from Ireland
to just stand around
730
00:31:14,210 --> 00:31:17,330
"to be young and cool?" And for
some reason, I was on the list.
731
00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:19,330
And they put us
into, like, little piles,
732
00:31:19,330 --> 00:31:21,690
like, four of us standing
in each group. Mm.
733
00:31:21,690 --> 00:31:23,850
And Harry or Meghan would come over,
734
00:31:23,850 --> 00:31:26,890
and, God love them, had to shake
everyone's hands and talk to us.
735
00:31:26,890 --> 00:31:28,770
And there was myself
and Caitriona Balfe,
736
00:31:28,770 --> 00:31:30,410
who's a brilliant Irish actress,
737
00:31:30,410 --> 00:31:32,690
and Amy Huberman, as well,
just standing there.
738
00:31:32,690 --> 00:31:35,610
And Harry came along, and I was,
like, "We're the Irish Little Mix."
739
00:31:35,610 --> 00:31:37,210
LAUGHTER
740
00:31:37,210 --> 00:31:40,450
And you could see him want to laugh,
assuming it was a joke,
741
00:31:40,450 --> 00:31:43,650
but then just in case
this higgledy-piggledy bunch
742
00:31:43,650 --> 00:31:46,810
of Irish women in their 30s
were the Irish Little Mix,
743
00:31:46,810 --> 00:31:48,810
we were like, "Oh, oh, er, ooh...
744
00:31:48,810 --> 00:31:50,690
"No, we're not, we're not!"
745
00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:52,650
And I was like...
SHE GASPS
746
00:31:52,650 --> 00:31:55,250
You've met Prince Harry, as well,
though, haven't you?
747
00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:57,250
Yes, yeah, at the Royal Variety.
748
00:31:57,250 --> 00:31:59,210
We performed,
and then met him after.
749
00:31:59,210 --> 00:32:00,970
Oh, that's a better story.
750
00:32:00,970 --> 00:32:04,010
LAUGHTER
751
00:32:04,010 --> 00:32:07,490
And you've done the Royal Variety
before, haven't you?
752
00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:09,130
And you did it fairly recently?
753
00:32:09,130 --> 00:32:11,170
I did it for Queen Victoria,
originally.
754
00:32:11,170 --> 00:32:12,970
LAUGHTER
755
00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:14,450
No, I did it...
756
00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:20,450
Me and David Baddiel and Ian Broudie
did the Three Lions at it,
757
00:32:20,450 --> 00:32:23,850
and then, we were introduced
to Sophie Wessex,
758
00:32:23,850 --> 00:32:26,610
I believe she's called.
Yeah.
759
00:32:26,610 --> 00:32:31,410
And she came over and said to me,
"Well, don't give up your day job."
760
00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:33,850
Wow!
And I said, "What do you mean?"
761
00:32:33,850 --> 00:32:36,330
She said, "You're obviously
not used to being
762
00:32:36,330 --> 00:32:38,490
"in front of an audience."
763
00:32:38,490 --> 00:32:41,210
And I said, "Well, I'm a comedian."
764
00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:43,930
And she said, "Yeah,
but you don't do places this big."
765
00:32:43,930 --> 00:32:47,690
It was the Albert Hall.
And I slightly pathetically said,
766
00:32:47,690 --> 00:32:50,170
"Well, I was at the London Palladium
last summer."
767
00:32:50,170 --> 00:32:52,530
LAUGHTER
In a really...
768
00:32:52,530 --> 00:32:54,370
AISLING: You showed her, Frank.
769
00:32:54,370 --> 00:32:57,130
Yeah, I think
she was trying to be, erm...
770
00:32:57,130 --> 00:33:00,130
abusive.
LAUGHTER
771
00:33:00,130 --> 00:33:04,370
No, actually, she sent me
a Christmas card, saying,
772
00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:06,290
"I'm sorry if I offended you."
773
00:33:06,290 --> 00:33:07,930
JOHANNES: Oh, really?
Wow!
774
00:33:07,930 --> 00:33:11,330
Yeah, which was very sweet.
But I also... Sorry.
775
00:33:11,330 --> 00:33:15,370
..went in front of what's now
the King, but was Prince Charles,
776
00:33:15,370 --> 00:33:17,610
the first time I ever did
the Royal Variety,
777
00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:21,010
and I completely died on my arse,
I went really badly.
778
00:33:21,010 --> 00:33:22,890
And he came up to me after
and said...
779
00:33:22,890 --> 00:33:27,130
AS CHARLES:
"So, where do you normally work?"
780
00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:31,890
Then, he said,
"Is it in the North?"
781
00:33:31,890 --> 00:33:34,410
LAUGHTER
782
00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:37,170
Oh, dear, oh, dear.
783
00:33:37,170 --> 00:33:40,330
Johannes, have you had interactions
with the royal family?
784
00:33:40,330 --> 00:33:45,090
Yes, I have. Sophie, actually.
Oh, yeah?
785
00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:47,290
She wants to do
Strictly Come Dancing.
786
00:33:47,290 --> 00:33:50,650
Wow! She would love the opportunity
to, but she can't, obviously.
787
00:33:50,650 --> 00:33:52,410
She has told you this,
or you've dreamt it?
788
00:33:52,410 --> 00:33:55,650
Yes... No, no,
she has personally told me this.
789
00:33:55,650 --> 00:33:58,050
Are they not...?
Is that, like, in the law
790
00:33:58,050 --> 00:34:00,610
of the land of Britain that they're
not allowed to do Strictly?
791
00:34:00,610 --> 00:34:04,090
They're not allowed to do something
like that. Can you imagine?
792
00:34:04,090 --> 00:34:07,730
Aisling, I'm excited to say,
is back on our screens in Avoidance,
793
00:34:07,730 --> 00:34:09,410
a very funny comedy show.
794
00:34:09,410 --> 00:34:11,570
It's Fridays, BBC One, nine-thirty.
795
00:34:11,570 --> 00:34:13,530
Of course, you can catch up
on iPlayer, as well.
796
00:34:13,530 --> 00:34:15,730
This is you playing opposite
Romesh Ranganathan,
797
00:34:15,730 --> 00:34:17,610
who I guess you've known
for a while.
798
00:34:17,610 --> 00:34:18,810
You're friends in real life.
799
00:34:18,810 --> 00:34:20,770
Oh, yeah, we've been friends
for about 15 years.
800
00:34:20,770 --> 00:34:23,730
But this is a second series
of his show that he wrote,
801
00:34:23,730 --> 00:34:25,210
and it's all about sort of a man
802
00:34:25,210 --> 00:34:28,090
going through a divorce
from his partner, Jess Knappett.
803
00:34:28,090 --> 00:34:30,930
And then in comes my character
in series two.
804
00:34:30,930 --> 00:34:34,250
And sparks fly.
Sparks fly perhaps, sure.
805
00:34:34,250 --> 00:34:35,890
Don't want to give it away.
806
00:34:35,890 --> 00:34:38,130
But, yeah, so,
sparks fly between us.
807
00:34:38,130 --> 00:34:40,170
So, you've got your arm
in a sling there.
808
00:34:40,170 --> 00:34:41,770
Is that part of the storyline?
809
00:34:41,770 --> 00:34:43,490
Er, no, it wasn't. It was because...
810
00:34:43,490 --> 00:34:47,090
I actually did the whole show
on loads of drugs.
811
00:34:47,090 --> 00:34:50,330
Erm... Let me explain.
812
00:34:50,330 --> 00:34:53,530
I was supposed to have
keyhole surgery on my shoulder
813
00:34:53,530 --> 00:34:56,010
from an accident
two days beforehand,
814
00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:58,690
but when they went in, they found
out that my arm was hanging off.
815
00:34:58,690 --> 00:35:01,970
They had to go in
and totally reconstruct my shoulder
816
00:35:01,970 --> 00:35:03,730
while I was asleep.
How had you done it?
817
00:35:03,730 --> 00:35:06,170
How had you injured yourself?
I got knocked down off my bike
818
00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:08,210
during the pandemic,
I wasn't paying attention.
819
00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:10,850
Wear a helmet, kids. Always pay
attention where you're going to.
820
00:35:10,850 --> 00:35:12,850
Don't listen to podcasts
while you're cycling.
821
00:35:12,850 --> 00:35:14,450
Traffic lights are there
for a reason.
822
00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:16,130
LAUGHTER
823
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:18,770
But I actually got knocked down
on the way to the hospital,
824
00:35:18,770 --> 00:35:20,970
so I was kind of like,
"Well, when in Rome..."
825
00:35:20,970 --> 00:35:23,130
And then...
826
00:35:23,130 --> 00:35:26,610
And then the BAFTAs were over Zoom
that day, and I was nominated,
827
00:35:26,610 --> 00:35:29,210
but I won, also on drugs that day,
in my garden.
828
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:31,610
I was like,
"I'm lucky to be alive. What a day!
829
00:35:31,610 --> 00:35:34,010
"What a day!"
LAUGHTER
830
00:35:34,010 --> 00:35:37,250
Presumably, were you still on
painkillers when you were filming?
831
00:35:37,250 --> 00:35:41,170
Oh, like, out of my head
on painkillers. I remember...
832
00:35:41,170 --> 00:35:43,370
I think the job was really lovely,
but I was like...
833
00:35:43,370 --> 00:35:46,370
# I'm walking in the air. #
834
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:49,330
So I remember it
as just one long day.
835
00:35:49,330 --> 00:35:51,330
I had a great time.
836
00:35:51,330 --> 00:35:54,650
But we had to make my sling
as part of the character,
837
00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:56,290
like, the character's got a sling.
838
00:35:56,290 --> 00:36:00,330
But I really couldn't move
very much, and I was very high.
839
00:36:00,330 --> 00:36:02,850
Well, you know what?
You pull it off magnificently.
840
00:36:02,850 --> 00:36:04,650
This is a little clip for you.
As I said,
841
00:36:04,650 --> 00:36:06,530
it's on Friday nights, BBC One,
nine-thirty.
842
00:36:06,530 --> 00:36:08,010
It's very funny. This is Avoidance.
843
00:36:08,010 --> 00:36:11,170
This cupboard, which has been stuck,
844
00:36:11,170 --> 00:36:13,410
and I have a tin of spaghetti hoops
in there
845
00:36:13,410 --> 00:36:15,970
that I've just been craving
for months,
846
00:36:15,970 --> 00:36:17,170
so I just think it needs a...
847
00:36:18,410 --> 00:36:20,090
..strong man like yourself.
848
00:36:20,090 --> 00:36:23,410
Oh, yeah, yeah. Right, yeah. Erm...
849
00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:28,650
Whoa, that is stuck.
Yeah, it's stuck, isn't it?
850
00:36:28,650 --> 00:36:31,810
Yes, I can confirm that.
Oh, thank you for confirming it.
851
00:36:31,810 --> 00:36:33,050
So, is the, erm...?
852
00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:36,570
Does this whole auction thing mean
that I'm basically your slave?
853
00:36:36,570 --> 00:36:39,490
Ooh, I don't love
the optics of that, but...
854
00:36:39,490 --> 00:36:42,610
Unless that's what you're into.
What? No! God, no!
855
00:36:42,610 --> 00:36:44,130
No!
Didn't realise you were kinky.
856
00:36:44,130 --> 00:36:47,170
No, I'm not kinky. I'm absolutely
not kinky. No, no, that's not...
857
00:36:47,170 --> 00:36:49,010
We've all got a kink.
But I haven't got a kink.
858
00:36:49,010 --> 00:36:51,290
I'm not here to kink shame you.
I don't have a kink.
859
00:36:51,290 --> 00:36:52,370
Everyone has a kink.
860
00:36:52,370 --> 00:36:54,010
My kink is
that I don't have any kinks.
861
00:36:54,010 --> 00:36:56,010
You could be the lead singer
of The Kinks.
862
00:36:56,010 --> 00:36:57,650
What I'm saying is, I'm not kinky.
863
00:36:57,650 --> 00:36:59,850
I've got nothing against kinks.
I'm not a kink...
864
00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:02,890
Oh, my God, Jonathan, relax.
I was totally yanking your chain.
865
00:37:02,890 --> 00:37:04,650
Oh, right.
But you're very funny
866
00:37:04,650 --> 00:37:05,930
when you're flustered.
867
00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:08,210
APPLAUSE
868
00:37:08,210 --> 00:37:09,690
That's Avoidance.
869
00:37:09,690 --> 00:37:12,810
Friday nights, BBC One, nine-thirty,
and on iPlayer.
870
00:37:12,810 --> 00:37:17,170
You can see you two have
a real relaxed relationship there.
871
00:37:17,170 --> 00:37:19,690
You're performing well together.
But you have to do scenes...
872
00:37:19,690 --> 00:37:22,410
Because without giving too much
away, the characters' sparks fly,
873
00:37:22,410 --> 00:37:24,250
and the characters
kind of get together. Mm.
874
00:37:24,250 --> 00:37:26,690
So, you had to perform scenes
with Romesh which were,
875
00:37:26,690 --> 00:37:28,890
like, boyfriend-girlfriend scenes.
Yeah.
876
00:37:28,890 --> 00:37:32,010
You've known him a while.
Does that make it easier or harder?
877
00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:35,810
Oh, totally harder. Cos you get used
to doing lovemaking scenes.
878
00:37:35,810 --> 00:37:38,010
Sorry to get everyone
with a giant horn
879
00:37:38,010 --> 00:37:39,330
as soon as I mention that.
880
00:37:39,330 --> 00:37:42,930
LAUGHTER
Apologies, Great Britain.
881
00:37:42,930 --> 00:37:47,170
But it's rare that rather being
with another actor pal,
882
00:37:47,170 --> 00:37:50,010
you're with a friend-friend,
and a stand-up friend. Yeah.
883
00:37:50,010 --> 00:37:52,210
And the two of us had one scene
where we had to kiss.
884
00:37:52,210 --> 00:37:54,010
And without giving too much away,
885
00:37:54,010 --> 00:37:56,890
we had to kiss for the first time
for as long...
886
00:37:56,890 --> 00:37:58,250
until Jessica Knappett,
887
00:37:58,250 --> 00:38:00,210
who's an amazing actress,
came in the back,
888
00:38:00,210 --> 00:38:03,410
and then we'd split our heads apart,
and Jess would be there.
889
00:38:03,410 --> 00:38:06,970
But it just took longer for her
to open the door than we thought.
890
00:38:06,970 --> 00:38:10,650
And so, I was like,
"OK, well, how are you, Romesh?"
891
00:38:13,410 --> 00:38:15,410
And I just...
892
00:38:15,410 --> 00:38:17,610
I knew I was doing bad kissing.
893
00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:19,570
You know when you know,
and you're in there.
894
00:38:19,570 --> 00:38:22,690
And I sort of wanted to be like,
"This is not normally how I do it."
895
00:38:22,690 --> 00:38:24,410
LAUGHTER
896
00:38:24,410 --> 00:38:26,090
And when they finally called "cut",
897
00:38:26,090 --> 00:38:28,290
I was like, "You're not gonna tell
Josh Widdicombe
898
00:38:28,290 --> 00:38:31,010
"and James Acaster and all the lads
that I'm bad at kissing, are you?
899
00:38:31,010 --> 00:38:32,650
"Don't tell all the lads!"
900
00:38:33,850 --> 00:38:36,370
But the intimacy in acting,
of course, that's expected,
901
00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:38,690
and there is, we mentioned earlier,
the Strictly curse,
902
00:38:38,690 --> 00:38:40,410
but there is a lot of intimacy
in dancing.
903
00:38:40,410 --> 00:38:41,810
Do you feel the same way,
904
00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:44,530
if you're dancing with someone
who you don't like?
905
00:38:44,530 --> 00:38:47,370
LAUGHTER
Cos that's still a type of tension.
906
00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:51,170
I love your flicking.
You've got no hair to flick!
907
00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:53,490
LAUGHTER
908
00:38:53,490 --> 00:38:56,450
Johannes, you've done that about
three times. What are you flicking?
909
00:38:56,450 --> 00:38:59,570
It gives me time to think
about what to say.
910
00:38:59,570 --> 00:39:03,210
Erm... No, that's the thing.
911
00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:07,250
I mean... Yes, if you...
LAUGHTER
912
00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:09,410
If you're not trained...
913
00:39:09,410 --> 00:39:11,690
Well, for the pros,
you can put it on.
914
00:39:11,690 --> 00:39:13,610
You can fake it.
You can fake it.
915
00:39:13,610 --> 00:39:15,850
So, it's acting, as well, really,
as part of that job.
916
00:39:15,850 --> 00:39:18,970
I've danced with complete strangers,
back in the old...
917
00:39:18,970 --> 00:39:21,530
I mean, it was the conga.
918
00:39:21,530 --> 00:39:23,250
LAUGHTER
The conga.
919
00:39:23,250 --> 00:39:25,170
Are you familiar with the conga?
920
00:39:25,170 --> 00:39:26,970
When I was growing up
in Birmingham...
921
00:39:26,970 --> 00:39:28,810
LAUGHING:
"Are you familiar with the conga?"
922
00:39:28,810 --> 00:39:32,050
..the conga was at the centre
of our culture.
923
00:39:32,050 --> 00:39:35,050
I once went... This is true, Jojo.
924
00:39:35,050 --> 00:39:37,210
I once went on a conga from a pub.
925
00:39:37,210 --> 00:39:40,010
We had to get a bus back
to where we started from.
926
00:39:40,010 --> 00:39:42,050
LAUGHTER
927
00:39:45,770 --> 00:39:48,210
APPLAUSE
Oh, my goodness!
928
00:39:48,210 --> 00:39:50,010
That's brilliant.
929
00:39:50,010 --> 00:39:53,810
That's rarely an intimate dance
unless someone stops suddenly.
930
00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:56,930
Oh, they... There were pregnancies.
931
00:39:58,930 --> 00:40:00,770
Have you ever done the conga?
932
00:40:00,770 --> 00:40:02,730
No!
JOHANNES LAUGHS
933
00:40:02,730 --> 00:40:05,370
We can teach you.
Uh-oh!
934
00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:07,570
Well, I might ask you maybe
to teach...
935
00:40:07,570 --> 00:40:09,970
Cos Frank was saying he's not
a particularly adept dancer,
936
00:40:09,970 --> 00:40:12,890
and I was wondering, maybe I could
get you to teach Frank a few steps.
937
00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:16,250
Oh, no, definitely, yes, yes.
You won't be able to do it.
938
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:18,530
This is gonna be bad
for your reputation.
939
00:40:18,530 --> 00:40:21,850
No, believe you me,
I can get anybody to dance. Come.
940
00:40:21,850 --> 00:40:24,530
OK. Will I have to lift you?
941
00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:26,450
LAUGHTER
942
00:40:27,690 --> 00:40:30,770
Let's see if
it's a horse-and-jockey situation.
943
00:40:30,770 --> 00:40:32,930
LAUGHTER
944
00:40:34,330 --> 00:40:37,010
Can I say...?
Can I slightly interrupt?
945
00:40:37,010 --> 00:40:38,450
I'm a massive Doctor Who fan,
946
00:40:38,450 --> 00:40:40,770
and I thought you were brilliant
in Doctor Who.
947
00:40:40,770 --> 00:40:44,410
Oh, thank you!
Aisling was amazing in Doctor Who.
948
00:40:45,970 --> 00:40:48,370
It's really weird
when you do it, though,
949
00:40:48,370 --> 00:40:50,930
because they've got a little man...
950
00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:55,930
not a little man, but a man
scrunched inside the Dalek,
951
00:40:55,930 --> 00:40:59,970
and so, while your acting
has to be, like, "Oh, no!"
952
00:40:59,970 --> 00:41:03,570
you're very aware he's like...
SQUEAKING
953
00:41:03,570 --> 00:41:06,210
And I'll move it. And you go...
I went to take a selfie,
954
00:41:06,210 --> 00:41:07,930
and they were like,
"Don't touch his arm!"
955
00:41:07,930 --> 00:41:09,170
I'm like, "Oh, I'm so sorry,
956
00:41:09,170 --> 00:41:11,370
"I don't want to be 'Me Too-ed'
by a Dalek."
957
00:41:11,370 --> 00:41:12,930
But when I told my mother,
I was like,
958
00:41:12,930 --> 00:41:15,130
"Oh, Mam,
they've offered me Doctor Who,"
959
00:41:15,130 --> 00:41:18,290
and then I rang my sister
after that, and she's like,
960
00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:20,490
"Oh, my God, I heard you're doing
Call The Midwife."
961
00:41:20,490 --> 00:41:22,250
And I was like,
"No, I'm doing Doctor Who."
962
00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:24,130
And I went back to my mother,
and she was like,
963
00:41:24,130 --> 00:41:26,490
"Oh, I thought
it was a medical drama."
964
00:41:26,490 --> 00:41:28,850
LAUGHTER
965
00:41:28,850 --> 00:41:31,050
OK, we're gonna take a break now,
but don't go away
966
00:41:31,050 --> 00:41:33,050
because we'll have more
from my guests,
967
00:41:33,050 --> 00:41:35,930
and Kasabian will be performing live
at the end of the show.
968
00:41:35,930 --> 00:41:37,890
See you after the break.
Wahey!
969
00:41:37,890 --> 00:41:40,170
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
970
00:41:43,390 --> 00:41:45,910
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
971
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:49,630
Welcome back to the show.
972
00:41:49,630 --> 00:41:52,710
As you can see, all of my delightful
guests are still with us.
973
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:54,510
Perrie,
I've got to ask you a question,
974
00:41:54,510 --> 00:41:56,950
which I'm sure a lot of people
will be wondering.
975
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:58,990
So, you're solo now.
Yes.
976
00:41:58,990 --> 00:42:00,870
It's been two years, I think,
977
00:42:00,870 --> 00:42:03,110
since you went on a hiatus...
Yes.
978
00:42:03,110 --> 00:42:04,910
..but I know you're still close
to the girls.
979
00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:06,590
Mm-hm.
Do you plan to get back together?
980
00:42:06,590 --> 00:42:09,190
Will there be more gigs? Will there
be another Little Mix album?
981
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:12,350
I would definitely never say never.
We just love each other so much.
982
00:42:12,350 --> 00:42:15,190
And we just thought,
we'd been together for 12 years,
983
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:17,190
since we were babies,
like, I was 16.
984
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:19,990
And we just wanted to do
our own thing, see what happens,
985
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:22,910
but we definitely would love
to get back together in the future.
986
00:42:22,910 --> 00:42:25,830
So, you're still all in touch,
cos I know there wasn't a split.
987
00:42:25,830 --> 00:42:28,350
It was just a decision
to take a break from that band.
988
00:42:28,350 --> 00:42:29,710
Yeah. And we'd just had babies.
989
00:42:29,710 --> 00:42:31,910
Leigh-Anne just had twins,
I'd just had the baby.
990
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:34,190
And our last tour,
we took the babies with us.
991
00:42:34,190 --> 00:42:36,710
And I think, from then,
we just wanted a minute
992
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:39,510
to just relax and enjoy,
993
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:42,510
and I just wanted to be a mam,
like, for two years,
994
00:42:42,510 --> 00:42:45,670
and just be in that baby bubble
for as long as possible,
995
00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:47,470
which I absolutely loved, so...
996
00:42:47,470 --> 00:42:51,470
And also, why share the fame
if you can have it all to yourself?
997
00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:54,310
Exactly! Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
998
00:42:54,310 --> 00:42:56,790
But the weird thing is,
cos, of course, you can keep going.
999
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:59,430
But, Johannes, of course,
being a professional dancer,
1000
00:42:59,430 --> 00:43:01,030
that does have an expiration date.
1001
00:43:01,030 --> 00:43:03,310
There's a date
when you can't necessarily carry on
1002
00:43:03,310 --> 00:43:06,390
doing it professionally.
Yes, and let me tell you something.
1003
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:09,750
I said I would do it
for as long as my bones will allow,
1004
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:12,350
and then, after that,
I'll come for Craig's job.
1005
00:43:12,350 --> 00:43:16,430
Ooh! Yes!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1006
00:43:16,430 --> 00:43:18,790
He's coming for you, Craig!
1007
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:21,030
OK, earlier on,
we mentioned the fact
1008
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:24,270
that maybe we could ask Johannes
if he could teach Frank,
1009
00:43:24,270 --> 00:43:26,230
or any of us who are interested,
a move or two,
1010
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:28,990
and that moment has arrived,
Johannes. Oh, yeah.
1011
00:43:28,990 --> 00:43:31,190
I know something like a waltz
would be easy,
1012
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:33,510
but let's set our sights
a little bit harder. Easy?
1013
00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:35,150
Yeah, a waltz is just walking,
really.
1014
00:43:35,150 --> 00:43:37,750
LAUGHTER
So, if you guys would like to go...
1015
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:40,550
Let's head over
to the ballroom area.
1016
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:43,710
I'm gonna stay back over here
with you.
1017
00:43:43,710 --> 00:43:46,030
APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH
1018
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:48,510
It's OK.
1019
00:43:48,510 --> 00:43:50,950
AISLING: Whatever his bones
will allow. Yeah.
1020
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:53,950
Is it the conga?
1021
00:43:53,950 --> 00:43:56,110
LAUGHTER
1022
00:43:59,630 --> 00:44:01,790
No, it's not the conga, Frank.
1023
00:44:01,790 --> 00:44:04,430
It's not the conga,
it's the cha-cha-cha.
1024
00:44:04,430 --> 00:44:06,150
Oh, lovely.
I'm sure you've heard of it.
1025
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:08,830
AISLING: Come on, Frank!
I've heard of it, yeah.
1026
00:44:08,830 --> 00:44:10,630
Now, listen.
1027
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:13,110
So, we bend one knee,
and we straighten the other.
1028
00:44:13,110 --> 00:44:18,150
So, it goes bend, bend, bend
and bend.
1029
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:20,350
So, there's a rhythm to it.
OK.
1030
00:44:20,350 --> 00:44:23,190
Bend, bend, bend and bend.
That's the rhythm.
1031
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:25,390
Which one goes first? Right?
It doesn't matter.
1032
00:44:25,390 --> 00:44:27,190
OK.
1033
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:29,390
What matters is that we follow
the rhythm.
1034
00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:32,870
And it goes boom, boom,
boom-boom-boom.
1035
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:38,710
Boom, boom, boom-boom-boom.
1036
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:42,590
Boom, boom, boom-boom-boom.
Now, Frank, that is the cha-cha-cha.
1037
00:44:42,590 --> 00:44:45,390
Can I say, I've already got a rash.
LAUGHTER
1038
00:44:45,390 --> 00:44:48,070
And we're gonna have music now,
Jonathan?
1039
00:44:48,070 --> 00:44:50,110
Yes.
I warned you. I warned you.
1040
00:44:50,110 --> 00:44:52,430
MUSIC: 'Free From Desire'
by Gala
1041
00:44:52,430 --> 00:44:54,790
AISLING: Oh, tune!
Whoo!
1042
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:58,150
This is a tune. It goes...
Five, six. It goes...
1043
00:44:58,150 --> 00:45:06,390
Bend, cha-cha-cha.
1044
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:19,230
Bend, and cha-cha-cha.
1045
00:45:19,230 --> 00:45:21,790
Bend...
LAUGHTER
1046
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:25,510
It was fun!
1047
00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:27,150
What a teacher!
Wow!
1048
00:45:27,150 --> 00:45:30,070
JONATHAN GASPS
And now, a communal bath.
1049
00:45:31,390 --> 00:45:35,430
Johannes and Frank Skinner,
ladies and gentlemen. Amazing!
1050
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:38,150
Thank you.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1051
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:39,990
AISLING: That was brilliant!
1052
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:42,030
Don't do that to me. Thank you.
1053
00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:44,230
Oh, my God, the only thing
funnier could have been
1054
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:46,710
if both of you had died
from a heart attack then.
1055
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:48,510
LAUGHTER
1056
00:45:48,510 --> 00:45:52,390
Can I just say, it was such
an honour to dance with Jojo.
1057
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:54,110
I loved that!
1058
00:45:55,630 --> 00:45:59,870
Really, that was great.
I'll remember that.
1059
00:45:59,870 --> 00:46:02,870
Join me in saying thank you to
all my lovely guests this evening,
1060
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:05,470
ladies and gentlemen.
Frank Skinner, Perrie Edwards,
1061
00:46:05,470 --> 00:46:08,430
Johannes, of course, and Aisling.
1062
00:46:08,430 --> 00:46:10,150
This is the last show
in this series,
1063
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:12,470
but we'll be back with our new one
before you know it.
1064
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:15,550
But now, to end the show,
with Coming Back To Me Good
1065
00:46:15,550 --> 00:46:17,750
from their upcoming album
Happenings,
1066
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:19,430
it is the fabulous Kasabian.
1067
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:21,670
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1068
00:46:23,390 --> 00:46:25,590
# Ready or not
1069
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:29,550
# Ready or not
1070
00:46:32,030 --> 00:46:33,510
# Ready or not
1071
00:46:35,630 --> 00:46:37,390
# Ready or not
1072
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:41,830
# Don't give up, it's not too late
1073
00:46:43,310 --> 00:46:46,710
# Get the feeling
That you're in a state
1074
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:49,470
# The shock is coming over you
1075
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:54,510
# But there's nothing left
For me to do
1076
00:46:54,510 --> 00:46:58,910
# Tell me something I don't know
1077
00:46:58,910 --> 00:47:03,230
# It's written everywhere you go
1078
00:47:03,230 --> 00:47:06,190
# We can build it piece by piece
1079
00:47:06,190 --> 00:47:10,870
# Oh, we can find a sweet release
1080
00:47:12,830 --> 00:47:16,270
# And love, it came on strong
1081
00:47:16,270 --> 00:47:18,750
# Now it's coming back to me
1082
00:47:18,750 --> 00:47:22,750
# Ready or not
When you got those shivers
1083
00:47:22,750 --> 00:47:26,510
# Ready or not
Running down your shoulders
1084
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:30,750
# Ready or not
Give me one more time around
1085
00:47:30,750 --> 00:47:34,270
# Ready or not
Oh, it's coming back to me
1086
00:47:34,270 --> 00:47:36,190
# Ready or not
1087
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:40,190
# Ready or not
1088
00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:42,190
# Coming back to me
1089
00:47:42,190 --> 00:47:45,230
# Don't give up, it's not too late
1090
00:47:45,230 --> 00:47:49,590
# Get the feeling
That you're in a state
1091
00:47:49,590 --> 00:47:53,270
# The shock is coming over you
1092
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:56,790
# And there's nothing left
For me to do
1093
00:47:58,990 --> 00:48:02,430
# Your life goes on
Your life goes on
1094
00:48:02,430 --> 00:48:06,790
# It don't mean
That's just the way it is
1095
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:11,030
# When you got those shivers
1096
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:14,430
# Running down your shoulders
1097
00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:18,470
# Give me one more time around
1098
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:21,350
# Oh, it's coming back to me
1099
00:48:21,350 --> 00:48:26,350
# Ready or not
Now you're feeling better
1100
00:48:26,350 --> 00:48:29,550
# Like you've known forever
1101
00:48:29,550 --> 00:48:34,110
# Ready or not
Give me all you've got to give
1102
00:48:34,110 --> 00:48:36,790
# Always coming back to me
1103
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:40,550
# Don't give up, it's not too late
When you got those shivers
1104
00:48:40,550 --> 00:48:44,550
# Don't give up, it's not too late
Running down your shoulders
1105
00:48:44,550 --> 00:48:48,590
# Don't give up, it's not too late
Give me one more time around
1106
00:48:48,590 --> 00:48:52,510
# Don't give up, it's not too late
Always coming back to me
1107
00:48:52,510 --> 00:48:54,150
# Ready or not
1108
00:48:56,070 --> 00:48:57,950
# Ready or not
1109
00:49:00,070 --> 00:49:01,750
# Ready or not
1110
00:49:04,110 --> 00:49:06,030
# Ready or not. #
1111
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:11,030
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1112
00:49:13,470 --> 00:49:15,510
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