[Amy Allan] She was murdered and he keeps burying her.
Sometimes, he literally shakes the entire house.
-Something jerked me. -Show me. Oh!
I woke up and my body was completely paralyzed.
This shadow figure holding this person down by their shoulders.
-What's going on? -Uh...
You can tell me.
[Amy] Everything that's going on here is about keeping your mouth shut.
He definitely is getting off on torturing him.
[speaking softly] I'm sorry.
[Amy] All I hear from him is, "Stay dead. Stay dead."
He wants a person dead.
My name is Amy Allan. I see dead people.
I saw a winged creature.
I speak to dead people and they speak to me.
This person feels like a monster.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
They are sucking the life out of these people.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve DiSchiavi, a retired New York City homicide detective.
So how many bodies are we talking?
And I know every person, every house, has secrets.
It's my job to reveal them.
But Steve and I never speak.
We never communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end.
Ooh, you're not gonna like this.
When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
I'm sorry, I need to take a break.
...or time to get out.
-It wants inside the house, because it wants to kill you. -[gasps]
[Steve] I'm up here in Euclid, Ohio.
It's a suburb just outside of Cleveland.
I got a desperate call from a single mother of three who says
she and her kids are getting terrorized by the paranormal.
I feel hopeless as a mother.
And this has been going on for four years consistently.
And sometimes it's daily. It's real and I need help.
But here's the weird thing, it wasn't her idea to reach out to us.
She was talked into it by two of her son's grade school teachers.
Now, that is definitely a first.
And I'm hoping Amy and I can help her out.
[Amy] I'm seeing this dead girl.
She's in a decomposed, skeletal shape.
She was murdered.
She wants help.
The male who killed her, he's nearly an animal.
Anytime he comes in, she runs away.
So there's battles between these two dead people here.
[Steve] So, Brooke, this is a beautiful place to raise children.
And when we spoke on the phone, you sounded pretty frank.
What the hell's going on?
I need help, um, I'm tired.
[Steve] Yeah, huh? I'll bet you are.
Oh, thank you.
-Sounds like you're having a tough time. -[Brooke] Yeah.
Try to stay positive, good vibes, um, I'm always smiling, but it hurts.
Okay, so, Brooke, let's start with some of the basics.
Who lives in the home with you?
I have a photo here.
[Steve] Okay.
[Brooke] That's my daughter, Novee, she's four.
That is my daughter Michaela, she's 23 and my son Kingston, he's nine.
Okay, so they all live here now?
Michaela used to, um, but she moved out about two years ago
and she will be moving back in in a couple months.
I have a granddaughter now.
Ah, okay.
All right, is she happy about coming home?
No, she's terrified.
Because of what's going on here.
Yes and she would have to move down into the basement.
What about your little one, as far as experiences. Is she having any?
Absolutely.
-[Steve] Okay. -She has probably the most.
I recently started documenting it and recording it.
[Brooke speaking]
That just breaks my heart. [sighs]
Um, so something's touching her.
This is just one of the examples of many.
Are you telling me your son's teachers had suggested to call us?
Now, that's a first.
Yeah.
Tell me about that. What happened?
They did bring up that he is playing and talking and seeing dead children.
And he did not want them to tell me.
Okay, Brooke, uh, obviously there's a lot going on here,
so just give me a list of what you guys are experiencing.
[Brooke] So, we hear strange things.
We're seeing shadow people.
Things are getting really violent.
It's affecting my health.
What about your health? What are we talking about?
I get headaches. The fatigue is horrible.
Um, sometimes it almost feels like I'm sedated.
Anxiety.
What do you think is here?
I feel like there's a spiritual warfare going on here.
[Amy] The man who killed that dead girl I saw, tries to be a shadow man.
There's fighting going on between this dead woman and this dead guy.
So, all of a sudden, a living person's having massive anxiety.
Massive panic, like almost panic attacks, when the fighting is going on.
This person's getting wicked headaches.
Ah, [bleep], my head. [exclaims]
He does use headaches to distract the living
and to get the dead girl out of the room.
He stops her from talking, 'cause he doesn't want
anybody to know that he killed her.
[bleep]
-[Steve] All right, so, is this your bedroom? -[Brooke] Yes.
Tell me about some of the experiences you're having.
I'm seeing shadow figures.
-Is it possible you're getting a shadow from outside? -[Brooke] No.
Why is that?
I have my curtains all closed at all times.
Okay, so, what else is going on?
When I was walking through my living room,
something grabbed my purse strap and jerked me.
Okay, so how hard were you jerked? Show me.
-Are you sure? -Yeah, yeah.
Oh! Okay.
All right. Did anything else physical happen to you?
Yes. I was attacked when I was giving my daughter, Novee, a bath.
Okay, what happened?
Out of nowhere, my arms started burning, like acid was on them.
I actually have a photo I wanna show you of the scratches.
Oof.
Those are definitely scratches.
-This ain't a rash or anything. -[Brooke] No.
Why don't you just get the hell out of here?
-I fought for this house. -Mmm-hmm.
This is our house.
-It is your house, right? -Mmm-hmm.
-[Steve] It's not their house. -Right.
-Okay. -I'm not gonna give up.
So the dead woman, that I saw outside, does come in here often.
I think this person is a sensitive and she keeps trying
to talk to this person.
I see her, like, shaking the bed.
The person's feeling like the bed's moving,
which is, you know, freaking her out.
And the dead lady's getting angry,
because she wants to get the [bleep] out of here.
She's touching the lady's hair, trying to talk
and then she gets louder and louder and louder.
So there's a definite miscommunication here,
between the dead and the living.
[Steve] So, Michaela, your mom said
you moved out of here, because of the activity that was going on?
[Michaela] Yes, it was that bad.
I understand that you're moving back here
with your two-year-old daughter.
Why is that?
Well, I'm going back to school to be a nurse and it's gonna help me financially.
So, the basement, what's-- Why'd you bring me down here? What's the story?
This is where I'm actually moving back into.
Okay.
And this is where I felt a lot of the activity going on,
but this would be the only room for me to go.
Okay, so take me through the experiences you had when you were living here.
So, one night, I woke up in my room and my body was completely paralyzed.
I had tears coming down my eyes.
I was crying, 'cause I was so scared.
I couldn't even scream if I wanted to.
Were you on any kind of medication or anything like that?
-No. -So, nothing. Taking any weed that might have...
-No. -Okay, so what else can you tell me?
I was in my bedroom once and when I looked
to the doorway, there was a shadow figure.
Okay, so now, your mom mentioned
about a shadow figure that she saw in the hallway.
What'd it look like to you?
It looked like a smaller person and I honestly started crying.
-Because I was so scared. -Right.
Because I just felt like something bad was about to happen to me.
It's no wonder you don't wanna come back here.
I mean, what else is going on?
I'm constantly feeling watched in this house.
-It's very creepy. -Okay.
It feels creepy and one of the reasons it does is one of the places
-I often felt watched was when I was in the shower. -[Steve] Hmm.
And it felt like someone was in the room staring at me.
[Steve] So, listen, I'm not trying to pick on you,
but you're moving back here with a two-year-old.
You think that's such a good idea?
No, I honestly don't think it's a good idea,
but, at the same time, I don't have a choice.
[Steve] Okay.
[Amy] That dude is a little perv-y
and he does watch women in the shower.
Don't like that.
Not good.
-He does get really angry down there. -[Matt] The basement?
[Amy] Yes. That's his lair.
Sometimes he literally shakes the entire house.
They hear bangs from him all the [bleep] time.
He literally goes crazy down there.
He would not like anybody down here living-wise, period.
[Steve] Hey, Kingston, there you are.
-[Kingston] Yeah. -[Steve] How are you, buddy?
[Kingston] I'm good.
-[Steve] What are you doing out here, are you playing? -Yeah.
So mom was telling me you're having some experiences in the house?
-[Kingston] Yeah. -Yeah, what's going on?
Uh... Hmm...
You could tell me.
Well...
It's just, I need to find out what's going on.
-Okay. -Mom said you have some friends that you talk to?
That nobody else can see?
Yeah.
So, what can you tell me about them?
Um, the first one, he likes to play Legos with me.
And the second one, likes to, um, watch TV with me.
Let's talk about the third one.
What's his story?
Um...
I, uh... Hmm...
He doesn't really do anything.
Usually, he's, um, outside.
Does he scare you at all?
Um, well, I don't know.
[Steve] What do you hoping we can do for you?
Well, if I can have my normal life back,
to being a playful boy, playing with Legos, watch TV a lot...
-[Steve] Right. -...and play with my friends at daycare.
[Steve] So you wanna go back to being--
Having a normal life and not seeing...
-[Kingston] Yeah. -...people that nobody else sees, right?
-Yeah, and that's all I can tell you. -[Steve] All right.
[Amy] I'm getting this scared little kid in this room.
This person is hearing something coming down the hallway.
I think it's the killer guy, but he looks different.
And then there's, like, I think... I wanna say scratching at the door.
And then the door's opening and then there's, like, this black mist.
But, you know, about this tall?
Kind of rolling into the room.
It was, like, you know, a very aggressive feeling is coming from this thing.
Like, I'm gonna [bleep] take your [bleep] out.
And this person's scared.
At some point too, this person's being held down.
Like, I see this shadow figure leaning over and holding
this person down by their shoulders.
Like, can feel that something's right there
and they can't move, they can't talk.
He seems to enjoy torturing them.
Oof.
[Steve] After talking to Kingston, I got the feeling
he's dealing with a lot more than he's letting on.
So, I reached out to the teachers who talked Brooke into calling us in,
to see what he shared with them.
So, what made you guys think Kingston had some issues going on with him?
He just, kind of, talked to me about things that he was seeing at home
and, um, that he was a little nervous and apprehensive about.
Did he get specific with you?
Yeah, he, um, told me that there were three children.
And that two children interact more with him than the third.
And that the third is, um, not as nice.
He got really bad vibes off of him and that he was, like, really mean.
He said something interesting to me.
He says, um, "Well, if they do leave,
then I can get my life back to normal."
That, to me, makes me feel like right now, it's bothering him a lot.
It's really weighing heavy on him.
He is struggling.
Ladies, you're convinced that what's going on with Kingston's
paranormal-related and not anything else?
Yes, my family actually grew up in the area
and we've had experiences as well.
-He's a good kid and it's a good family. -It is a good family.
[Steve] So, I'm curious, you guys being teachers and suggesting the paranormal,
were you worried about, any kind of, backlash, or anything like that?
No, I wasn't, uh, after you teach for over 20 years,
you see a lot and you experience a lot and you know your kids.
And Kingston is not one to make up stories to scare people.
Okay.
I feel like this person wasn't being taken seriously for a while
and has seen a lot of [bleep].
I think that this person
is actually kind of happy that we're here.
'Cause I think this person's very tired and scared.
[Steve] We've done quite a few cases here over the years,
so I've made a bunch of local contacts.
One of them is a genealogist.
She just called me, saying a couple
of the original owners of Brooke's property
have a story I definitely need to know about.
Well, Mary, it's good to see you again,
I appreciate you helping me out.
All right, so, what can you tell me about this family?
All right, well, back in 1916, there were two brothers.
-Okay. -Michael and John Hartman.
And they bought three lots right here where your client's property is today.
It's seems that they were planning to move their mom on to one of the lots,
because she had been widowed when they were very young boys.
Okay, so the kids were looking to take care of their mother.
[Mary] Yes.
All right, so they seem like a close-knit family.
Do you know anything else about them?
Well, they were immigrants from Transylvania,
which was the Catholic region of Romania.
All right, so we got two brothers that owned my client's property.
Let's start with, uh, Michael.
All right, well Michael actually would up moving
to Indiana shortly after they bought the property.
Okay.
And he worked as a truck driver for the public library.
But it turned out, Michael was leading sort of a double life.
He was running a bootlegging operation and a speakeasy
and he was arrested for that in 1930.
I have a newspaper article about that.
[Steve] Does he do any jail time?
Does he plea out? What happened to this guy?
Presumably, he did a little bit of time
and he would up dying in Indiana in 1956 at the age of 73.
[Amy] There's something really strange about this killer guy.
He is afraid of Catholicism, so that's interesting.
I feel like this bad guy did live here.
Something about mother, possibly living with her.
Some kind of, like, government job, like, I mean, obviously he got benefits.
Definitely mentally ill.
Okay, so we got one brother who's a bootlegger.
-And died at the age of 73 in Indiana. -Mmm-hmm.
Okay, so what about John? What do we know about him?
Unlike Michael, uh, John stayed on the property.
Things turned tragic for John almost immediately.
So, what happens with this guy?
He had a wife and she came down
with a severe case of pneumonia.
She was only 27 years old when she died in 1919.
[Steve] All right, so does this guy wind up remarrying at all?
Yes, he marries, actually, pretty quickly.
He marries a woman named Johanna.
Okay, so is there anything else I should know about this family?
By 1940, John was diagnosed with a terrible kidney disease.
Uh, he suffered with this for ten years.
All right, so this guy had a miserable existence for all this time.
Yes, he did.
He died on your client's property in 1950, at the age of 63.
[Steve] What about Johanna, does she stick around?
Johanna stayed on the land for another 34 years.
She wound up dying in 1984 at age of 86.
So it's a sad story, you know...
Comes here as an immigrant, thoughts of new life, loses his wife young.
And then, ten years of suffering from something like that had to be
incredibly hard for this guy.
Yeah, he suffered a lot.
[Amy] There's a couple.
So, man and wife.
I guess both are deceased.
Uh, they ran upstairs, so I need to get upstairs.
Okay, I don't know where they went.
I think they're hiding in a closet.
I think he died before she did.
[Steve] I just got a call from my old friend, journalist Lou Hebert.
Now, he said he found something that may help my case.
He tells me a teenage girl died in a lake,
less than a mile from Brooke's house.
At first, everyone thought it was a drowning.
That is, until it started to look like a murder.
Well, Lou, it's good to see you again.
Uh, thanks for helping me out on another case.
So, before we get to the drowning,
what do we know about this victim?
Her name was Molly Petelinker.
She was 15 at the time, she was, uh, born and raised here in Euclid.
At the time, she was dating a guy by the name of John Mckay.
He was seven years her senior, he was 22 years of age.
Okay, Lou, so let's get to the drowning, what happened?
Well, it happened on June seventh, 1928.
John and Molly were right here at Euclid Beach.
They took a rowboat out into the lake.
A few hours later, the rowboat comes back to the beach,
and it's overturned.
Okay, so, I assume they had a search party?
Yeah, they started looking for them,
but they didn't find anything right away.
But about two weeks later, a fisherman happened upon a body of a woman.
She was wrapped in fisherman's line.
And then they determined it was, in fact, Molly.
-Okay. -But they never found John.
And it was presumed that he had drowned as well.
Here's a picture of her, an article at the time.
[Steve] All right, so when did they start to consider this a murder?
Molly's sister gets a letter.
A very strange letter that's expressing sympathy
and some guilt over Molly's death.
and interestingly enough,
it's signed by a fictitious author.
The police decide to reopen the case now,
and they put out a citywide search for John Mckay.
Here's an article on it right there.
[Steve] All right, so did they ever find this guy?
No, they looked for about a year and a half,
and John Mckay has never been found.
[Steve] It's very strange, this story.
I'm more on the side of there's a little foul play here.
I would tend to agree. It's--
He's probably, um--
-He probably found a new life somewhere. -[Steve] Yeah.
[Amy] The killer guy hides his victim down here.
This is where he likes to keep the lady.
She did not get buried.
He left her outside and she rotted really quick.
This dude killed her,
and he thinks
nobody knew about this,
but here, he like, keeps her,
and he keeps burying her, and burying her, and burying her.
All I hear from him is,
"Stay dead. Stay dead. Stay dead. Stay dead."
He just wants her to be quiet and disappear...
...because he doesn't want her telling everybody anything about
her being murdered, I think, by him.
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[Steve] So far, I've got a terrified mother
worried about the safety of her children
on a property where one of the first owners suffered a long and painful death...
...but I wanna see if there's anything else.
Searching through old records, I make a horrifying discovery:
There was a deadly fire at a school near Brooke's house.
I'm heading over to meet a local author who wrote a book about this tragedy.
Now, he says the worst part is
it was completely preventable.
So, Dr. Badal,
I appreciate you helping me out with this case and taking the time.
Before we get to this horrific fire,
what can you tell me about the school?
Well, the school was originally constructed in 1901.
This is what the finished building looked like.
300 to 350 children were distributed among nine different classrooms.
[Steve] Do me a favor. Take me through the fire. What happened?
[Dr. Badal] Well, it was March 4, 1908.
14-year-old girl, she asked to go to the lavatory,
and as she walked down the stairway,
she saw a little wisp of smoke coming up between the cracks of one of the steps,
so she called to the janitor, whom she saw,
and when he saw the smoke,
he ran into one of the classrooms
and pulled the fire alarm.
Where did things go wrong?
[Dr. Badal] Virtually everywhere.
When the janitor opened the doors at both sides of the building,
the wind just went like this,
and the entire interior of the school was wood.
-So, it turned it into a big chimney. -[Dr. Badal] So...
It turned it into a chimney,
and there was a second factor involved.
The interior was Georgia pine,
and the janitor cleaned it and kept it looking nice by using oil,
which is an accelerant.
[Steve] Does the fire department eventually show up?
[Dr. Badal] Yes.
Okay, so what happened once they got there?
The pressure in the hydrants was low,
and they didn't have ladders that were big enough to reach to the second and third floor.
Any fire escapes?
There was one.
In a building that big?
Originally, the builder wanted to use three,
but the school board balked at the cost.
Okay. I'm not surprised.
There's actually some footage that was taken of the fire.
[Steve] Unbelievable.
-These kids never had a chance. -[Dr. Badal] No.
[Steve] Now, you told me how many kids went to this school.
What was the final death count?
172 children were killed,
two teachers,
and one would-be rescuer.
The fire was so bad
that 19 of the children never were identified.
[Steve] So, Jim, when we spoke on the phone,
you said that this might have been preventable.
What'd you mean by that?
They determined that the cause of the fire
was an overheated steam pipe too close to a wooden joist.
Okay.
It was a design flaw.
Was there an investigation? Anybody charged?
[Dr. Badal] No.
There was a very extensive investigation,
but no one was actually charged.
In fact, here's an article about it.
[Steve] "Slaughtered Innocents!" That's a good title.
So, let me ask you a question. As far as school fires go,
where does this rank in our country?
This is the worst school fire in American history.
[Amy] I saw several disturbing things on my walk,
but the dead killer burying his female victim in the basement
concerns me the most.
I saw a grave,
and it had fresh earth put on top,
and then around it, it had, uh, little stones.
What I saw of him was basically the back of him,
and he had, like, an old-fashioned shovel.
Amy, is this what you saw?
Yes. That's what I saw.
[Steve] Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
So, guys, this is Amy.
she's gonna be doing the reveal from another room
so she can focus on the dead and your case without any distractions.
Amy, this is Brooke and her daughter, Michaela.
Now, Brooke is a single mom who lives here
with her four-year-old daughter, Novee,
and her nine-year old son, Kingston.
Now, Michaela used to live here,
but she had some terrible experiences and moved out,
but now, for financial reasons,
she has to move back in with her two-year-old,
and she doesn't think it's going to be safe,
and that's why they called us in.
Unless Amy's got some questions for you,
she'll tell us about her walk.
[Amy] During my walk,
I encountered four deceased people.
The first ones that I wanna talk about are, uh, an older couple.
I believe that it's a man and a wife.
I could not really gather if they had lived here or not.
They were both kind of, you know, on the heavier side
because of their age, mainly.
They looked to be in their sixties.
Late sixties, early seventies, I think.
I do believe the male died prior to the female.
All right, it's not a lot to go on,
but a few things remind me of a guy who used to own this property
and lived on it with two different wives.
His name was John Hartman.
Hartman came here from Transylvania,
saved up, and bought the property in 1916.
Now, his time here was brutal.
In 1919, his first wife died from pneumonia.
She was only 27 years old.
But, he quickly remarried.
His new wife was named Johanna.
Now, you said the man died before the woman.
In 1940, John was diagnosed with a kidney disease.
He suffered for ten long years,
though in 1950, John Hartman died right here on the property.
He was 63 years old when he died.
I have his death certificate here.
Now, after John's death,
Johanna lived here for another 34 years.
She died in 1984 at a local hospital
and she was 86 years old.
Is it possible that's the dead couple you ran into?
[Amy] You know, it's definitely a possibility.
[Steve] Okay, what else we got?
[Amy] Now, I'm gonna discuss the other two individuals that are here.
One of them is a murderer,
and one of them is his victim.
The victim, the female,
is in a very, uh, decomposed state.
I saw her in this room
and going upstairs and to the right.
-[Steve] That's your room, Brooke? -[Brooke] Yes.
She's trying to get help from you,
and the reason why is because you're a sensitive...
...but you've really shut that down.
I'm sorry.
-What's going on? -Like, she said I...
I, like, feel stuff, but I just shut it down.
I only discuss that with myself.
I've told nobody in this world.
Nobody.
Not even you.
She really wants to tell her story
and to move on.
The murderer, the killer guy,
does not want her to talk.
When she tries to communicate with you,
he gets pissed off and they fight,
and you're picking up on it via emotion
and you're getting panicked and freaked out.
Now, your anxiety is something that's a real issue.
Tell Amy how that goes.
[Brooke] So, it just hits.
I could just walk into a room
and I feel a sense of something's not right,
something's bad,
and I go into really bad anxiety.
It makes sense.
[Steve] Now, you said this murder victim tries to get Brooke's attention.
What does she do?
I did see her touching,
so, like, caressing the hair and the face.
She's just trying to get your attention.
So, um, a week after we moved in,
I was walking through the living room
and someone grabbed my purse strap,
and it took me back a couple feet.
I asked her to demonstrate on me,
and I have news for you, she...
-[Amy] Pretty hard? -[Steve] Yeah, I mean,
I'm 220 pounds and she pulled me.
[Amy] Wow.
The other thing is when you got scratched.
-Mmm. -[Steve] Tell her about that.
So, I was giving my daughter a bath,
and it felt like someone poured acid on my arms,
and when I brought my arms out,
there was
huge scratches going down my arms.
I got a photo right here to show you.
Could that be this woman trying to get her attention, or is that something else?
That's more than likely the...
The killer.
-[Steve] Ah. -[Amy] Yeah.
So, since we're talking about physical,
I wanna talk about Novee.
You had given me a video I want to show to Amy.
That would more than likely be the female.
It makes me very nervous,
and the fact that I'm bringing my daughter
and I'm seeing this with my little sister,
it already breaks my heart.
[Steve] As far as this killer goes,
any idea who he might have been when he was alive?
[Amy] According to him,
this murder he was able to keep secret when he was alive.
I believe that he might have lived here.
I'm thinking that he may have lived with his mother.
He has a deep fear of Catholicism,
and I got that he may have had some type of government job,
like a mailman or something.
What you're talking about makes me think of
the brother of John Hartman that owned the property.
Now, his name was Michael,
and he and John bought three lots
Of property here together back in 1916.
One of the lots was supposed to be for John, the other for Michael,
and the third was supposed to be for the widowed mother...
-Ah. -[Steve] ...so she could live here.
Now, you said this--
The killer's afraid of Catholicism.
As I mentioned, this family was from Transylvania.
Apparently, it's an extremely Catholic region of Romania.
But, like you said, Michael had a government job.
He drove a library truck.
But, as far as murdering someone?
I got nothing on that.
[Amy] He kept it a secret in life.
All of the boxes are coming together with him.
-With the Catholicism and all that? -Yeah.
When I went down into the basement,
he is burying her.
This happens over and over and over again
because she gets out,
and that's when she's coming to you and trying to talk to you,
and then he's gotta get her and put her back in the grave.
Like, he just wants her gone.
I did have a sketch done of this situation.
This should be interesting.
[shudders] This is creepy.
Michaela, that's your new space in the house, isn't it?
Oh, no.
[Michaela] Like, that's terrible and terrifying.
Like, that's supposedly happening, like,
where I'm supposed to be living with my child.
[Amy] And the basement, like,
that's his place.
He doesn't want any of the living down there.
So, does this killer do anything to interact with these guys?
I did get that he, on occasion, will watch the females,
uh, bathing or showering.
That was the two spots, actually.
It was the basement and the shower
where I constantly felt watched.
I saw that he, at one point, got into a rage,
and it literally felt like the house shook.
Like, it was like this... [rattling]
[Steve] Brooke, have you heard anything like that?
[Brooke] Yes.
Very obnoxious banging for about 20 to 30 minutes.
What? That long?
-Yeah. -[Amy] Holy smokes!
He is pretty active
in one of the bedrooms,
uh, which is the one directly across from here.
-[Steve] So, that's Kingston's room? -[Brooke] Yes.
[Amy] I did think it was a boy.
I got that he was, like, excited for us to be here
because he is tired and scared
of all of these experiences that he has had,
and he felt like he wasn't being taken seriously,
and that frustrated him.
Wow, Kingston. I'm a little blown away by that.
So, Amy, here's what you need to know.
Kingston was having problems at school,
um, and he told his teachers that he was seeing three different dead children
here at the house.
He told them two were nice and one not so much.
The reason we're here is because those teachers called Brooke
and told her to have us come in and investigate.
I was upset because he never told me.
He never opened up,
and when I asked him, he said,
"I wanted to protect you."
Who are these kids that he might be talking to?
He might be, uh, perceiving the older couple as the two friendly children.
Okay.
And, maybe perceiving the other kid who's bad is the killer.
I interviewed him and he seems to be holding back something else.
[stammers] He's not telling me everything.
Everything that's going on here is about keeping your mouth shut.
That's the killer's MO.
That's what he's doing to this woman.
I mean, that's, like,
the whole thing here
is keep your mouth shut,
and I think the killer has targeted him
because he has medium abilities.
I think the killer feels a threat that he could get him out of here.
He could push him out and expose his secret.
There was one situation. it was really dark.
He was hearing footsteps coming down the hallway...
...and then the doors opening,
and then there's, like, this black mist
kinda rolling into the room.
The feeling was just rage and aggression
and very threatening,
so it seems like he definitely is getting off on torturing him as well.
This poor kid is going through hell.
What kind of mother am I to bring my daughter somewhere where I know is not safe?
I...
I'm sorry.
[Steve] So, Brooke,
you know why Kingston's been having all these issues,
and Michaela,
you know why the basement freaks you out,
so it's time to answer the big question:
Is there anything you guys can do about this,
and if so, what's it gonna take?
Uh, for that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
[Amy] What I would like to see happen
is for a male medium
who is a practicing Catholic,
they'll come here
and they will engage with the killer
and move him on.
Once he is gone,
I feel that the female
will be able to finally see clearly her way out.
Once that's done,
the older couple will leave.
So, once they get rid of this-- The killer, right?
Michaela can move in, or does she need to wait a while?
Yeah, no. She can totally move in, yeah.
He'll be gone,
the lady'll be gone,
everybody'll be gone.
-How do you feel about that? -Relief.
[laughs] It's sorta like... [exhales]
-I'm happy about this. -[Steve] Me, too.
We are also dealing with abilities here,
and functioning, and I am concerned about your health.
It would be really great if you could see a Reiki practitioner.
You have a lot of stuff that needs to get out of your body,
and then, with Kingston,
we need to create a lot of safe spaces for him.
So, what I would like is for him to see a child therapist,
uh, who's open to this.
I know Kingston was your number one concern.
The behavior was not him.
I felt like something was--
There's more to it.
But now you know why.
Now I know why.
-But you feel relieved about that? -I do.
-[Steve] Yeah.
You're gonna do what she says, right?
Of-- 100%.
-Are you kidding me? -Yes.
You look much better.
Yeah.
This is huge for us and our family.
I appreciate you guys more than I could ever express.
Seriously.
[Amy] I really hope Brooke contacts a medium
to remove the killer and the other dead trapped inside her home.
If she does that and finds a therapist for Kingston
as well as a Reiki master for herself,
I believe this family will find the peace and happiness they deserve.
We took your advice.
Um, we did everything that you had put together for us that would help us,
and it worked.
As you can see now,
my beautiful daughter is finally moving down to the basement,
and we have been renovating it.
Yeah, I couldn't appreciate you more.
I feel 100% comfortable down here,
and it's definitely because of your guys' help.
-Thank you, guys! -Thank you!