1 00:00:10,011 --> 00:00:12,177 [Amy] I saw seven people, 2 00:00:12,179 --> 00:00:13,746 whatever they did was evil. 3 00:00:13,748 --> 00:00:18,350 They're very angry about something. 4 00:00:18,352 --> 00:00:23,155 I've seen an apparition of Nikki's friend Sean, who's passed in the hallway. 5 00:00:23,157 --> 00:00:25,357 The paranormal killed him. 6 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:28,394 If he's here, I feel like he's trying to protect me. 7 00:00:28,396 --> 00:00:29,561 It's freaking me out. 8 00:00:32,299 --> 00:00:34,800 Approximately 350 died. 9 00:00:34,802 --> 00:00:37,369 They must have thought it was the end of the world when this happened. 10 00:00:37,371 --> 00:00:40,072 I think she might be trying to kill you. 11 00:00:40,074 --> 00:00:41,440 [Toni speaking] 12 00:00:42,843 --> 00:00:45,177 [Amy] I'm hearing the dead lady saying, 13 00:00:45,179 --> 00:00:47,379 "Why won't you help us? Why won't you help us?" 14 00:00:49,383 --> 00:00:51,116 It wants the person dead. 15 00:00:51,118 --> 00:00:53,318 My name is Amy Allan. 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,620 I see dead people. 17 00:00:54,622 --> 00:00:57,322 I saw a lean creature. 18 00:00:57,324 --> 00:01:01,593 I speak to dead people, and they speak to me. 19 00:01:01,595 --> 00:01:03,796 This person feels like a monster. 20 00:01:03,798 --> 00:01:06,965 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real... 21 00:01:06,967 --> 00:01:10,903 They're sucking the life out of these people. 22 00:01:10,905 --> 00:01:12,071 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:12,073 --> 00:01:13,572 I'm Steve DiSchiavi. 24 00:01:13,574 --> 00:01:15,674 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:15,676 --> 00:01:17,142 So how many bodies we talking'? 26 00:01:17,144 --> 00:01:21,280 And I know every person, every house, has secrets, 27 00:01:21,282 --> 00:01:22,915 it's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:22,917 --> 00:01:24,917 But Steve and I never speak... 29 00:01:24,919 --> 00:01:26,919 We never communicate during an investigation. 30 00:01:26,921 --> 00:01:28,554 until the very end. 31 00:01:28,556 --> 00:01:30,222 - [gasps] - You're not gonna like this. 32 00:01:30,224 --> 00:01:32,324 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 33 00:01:32,326 --> 00:01:35,060 I'm sorry, I need to take a break. 34 00:01:35,062 --> 00:01:36,895 Or time to get out. 35 00:01:36,897 --> 00:01:38,797 It wants inside a house because it wants to kill you. 36 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:40,498 [gasps] 37 00:01:50,811 --> 00:01:54,246 [Steve] I'm in Flatwoods, Kentucky. It's a small city along the Ohio river. 38 00:01:54,248 --> 00:01:56,815 I got a desperate call from a woman named, Nikki. 39 00:01:56,817 --> 00:01:58,750 She told me, she always dreamed 40 00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:00,486 of owning a home in the middle of nowhere. 41 00:02:00,488 --> 00:02:02,955 Let me tell you, mission accomplished, 42 00:02:02,957 --> 00:02:05,791 but Nikki said, shortly after she and her sister moved in, 43 00:02:05,793 --> 00:02:07,126 all hell broke loose. 44 00:02:07,128 --> 00:02:09,294 My life is just terrible, 45 00:02:10,064 --> 00:02:11,997 and I know it's these things affecting me. 46 00:02:11,999 --> 00:02:14,900 I know that they are destroying me, 47 00:02:14,902 --> 00:02:17,903 and now ultimately, I think they want to take my life. 48 00:02:17,905 --> 00:02:19,805 [Steve] Nikki believes whatever's in her house 49 00:02:19,807 --> 00:02:21,807 has already killed one of her friends, 50 00:02:21,809 --> 00:02:23,942 and now it's coming after her. 51 00:02:23,944 --> 00:02:25,477 I'm really hoping we can help her out. 52 00:02:36,323 --> 00:02:37,823 [Amy] Oh, boy. 53 00:02:37,825 --> 00:02:39,558 What is this? 54 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,161 There are a ton of graves, 55 00:02:42,163 --> 00:02:44,363 and I just saw them over there. 56 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:49,801 I saw seven people, they're all in black, 57 00:02:49,803 --> 00:02:53,138 and like the women have like the big hats and the thick veils, 58 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:56,175 and it's two men and five women. 59 00:02:56,177 --> 00:02:59,144 I think they're mourning the loss of loved ones, 60 00:02:59,146 --> 00:03:02,548 but I feel fear of them 61 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:05,150 so I feel like they have bad intentions here. 62 00:03:14,762 --> 00:03:15,928 [Steve] So Nikki, 63 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:17,930 this is a nice house in a beautiful area. 64 00:03:17,932 --> 00:03:19,231 - [Nikki] Thank you. - [Steve] I mean, 65 00:03:19,233 --> 00:03:22,234 - you should be happy living here... - I should. 66 00:03:22,236 --> 00:03:23,735 but you're not, obviously. 67 00:03:23,737 --> 00:03:25,037 - Yeah. - So, what's going on? 68 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:28,574 The paranormal activity is unbelievable. 69 00:03:28,576 --> 00:03:31,109 - Okay. - I see all kinds of spirits, 70 00:03:31,111 --> 00:03:34,046 they make my day a living hell. 71 00:03:34,048 --> 00:03:37,683 So Nikki, you said on the phone that you believe the paranormal 72 00:03:37,685 --> 00:03:38,984 killed one of your friends, 73 00:03:38,986 --> 00:03:41,019 explain to me why you think that it is. 74 00:03:41,021 --> 00:03:42,821 Yes, I, I believe my friend, Sean, 75 00:03:42,823 --> 00:03:44,556 he was my best friend of 20 years. 76 00:03:44,558 --> 00:03:48,260 I believe that... the paranormal killed him. 77 00:03:48,262 --> 00:03:49,761 What did he die of? 78 00:03:49,763 --> 00:03:50,963 Heart problems. 79 00:03:50,965 --> 00:03:53,832 - How old is he? - Uh, 42. 80 00:03:53,834 --> 00:03:55,767 I'm curious, he died here? 81 00:03:55,769 --> 00:03:57,402 No, he died at his home. 82 00:03:57,404 --> 00:03:59,271 So what makes you think it's paranormal? 83 00:03:59,273 --> 00:04:01,340 He was a young, healthy guy. 84 00:04:01,342 --> 00:04:03,508 It's easy to blame his heart... 85 00:04:05,079 --> 00:04:06,411 but I feel like they did it. 86 00:04:08,782 --> 00:04:10,182 Do you think he's here? 87 00:04:10,184 --> 00:04:13,952 Yeah, I'll, I'll hear my name, and it's his voice. 88 00:04:13,954 --> 00:04:16,722 - Okay. - I heard him one day say, 89 00:04:16,724 --> 00:04:18,423 "Nikki, be careful." 90 00:04:18,425 --> 00:04:20,959 If he's here, I feel like he's trying to protect me. 91 00:04:23,364 --> 00:04:24,463 I've no doubt. 92 00:04:26,233 --> 00:04:28,066 Thank you. 93 00:04:28,068 --> 00:04:30,002 [Steve] So let's start with some basics. 94 00:04:30,004 --> 00:04:31,136 Who all lives in the house? 95 00:04:31,138 --> 00:04:33,272 My sister and I, Toni, um, 96 00:04:33,274 --> 00:04:35,407 - I got a picture, if you wanna see it. - Yeah. 97 00:04:35,409 --> 00:04:36,975 How long have you guys lived here? 98 00:04:36,977 --> 00:04:40,212 [Nikki] I've been here for three years and she's been here for the last year. 99 00:04:40,214 --> 00:04:42,981 [Steve] Do me a favor and give me a list 100 00:04:42,983 --> 00:04:45,050 of what you guys are going through here. 101 00:04:45,052 --> 00:04:46,585 [Nikki] I feel drained, 102 00:04:46,587 --> 00:04:48,253 seeing shadow figures, 103 00:04:48,255 --> 00:04:50,789 and we're getting physically attacked, 104 00:04:50,791 --> 00:04:53,225 and me and my sister are fighting a lot. 105 00:04:53,994 --> 00:04:56,261 How bad are the fights with you and your sister? 106 00:04:56,263 --> 00:04:59,097 It's really bad. It got physical. 107 00:04:59,099 --> 00:05:00,032 It did? 108 00:05:00,034 --> 00:05:02,134 She hit me and I hit her. 109 00:05:03,103 --> 00:05:05,604 [Steve] So what makes you think this is paranormal? 110 00:05:05,606 --> 00:05:07,673 I pretty much raised her since she was ten years' old 111 00:05:07,675 --> 00:05:11,276 and nothing has ever happened like this, ever. 112 00:05:11,278 --> 00:05:16,815 So... being you, you recognize there's something paranormal and bad is here, 113 00:05:16,817 --> 00:05:19,251 wh... what do you think it wants? 114 00:05:19,253 --> 00:05:22,788 I think it ultimately wants to kill me slowly, 115 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:24,122 destroy me. 116 00:05:24,124 --> 00:05:27,259 I have a friend that actually tucked me in bed. [chuckles] 117 00:05:27,261 --> 00:05:32,097 It's embarrassing, but... yeah, uh, she'll turn the light out for me. 118 00:05:32,099 --> 00:05:33,532 - Are you kidding me? - Mmm-mmm. 119 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:36,968 [Nikki sniffles] 120 00:05:36,970 --> 00:05:38,303 It's embarrassing. 121 00:05:38,305 --> 00:05:41,673 It's not embarrassing, it's, it's a tragic way of living. 122 00:05:41,675 --> 00:05:44,643 [sniffles] That's hard. 123 00:05:44,645 --> 00:05:48,146 I'm so thankful you're here, and I'm hoping to get some answers. 124 00:05:48,148 --> 00:05:50,382 - [Steve] Well, that's what we're here for. - I'm relieved. 125 00:05:54,822 --> 00:05:56,922 [Amy] These seven mourners are an issue 126 00:05:56,924 --> 00:06:00,992 because the way that they're affecting me physically 127 00:06:00,994 --> 00:06:04,329 is how I would think the, the living would feel them. 128 00:06:04,331 --> 00:06:07,699 They make you feel scared, 129 00:06:07,701 --> 00:06:11,370 they're very angry about something. 130 00:06:11,372 --> 00:06:15,941 I think that the living would feel this anger. 131 00:06:15,943 --> 00:06:18,009 They may act out on it. 132 00:06:19,913 --> 00:06:23,882 These mourners, the living may see them, 133 00:06:23,884 --> 00:06:25,817 uh, going back and forth. 134 00:06:25,819 --> 00:06:26,952 [Matthew] What is it that they're seeing? 135 00:06:26,954 --> 00:06:29,221 [Amy] Possibly shadow figures. 136 00:06:31,058 --> 00:06:35,527 They may have seen, uh, like a full-on apparition. 137 00:06:42,770 --> 00:06:44,136 [Steve] So what's going on? 138 00:06:44,138 --> 00:06:46,772 I see shadow figures all over the house. 139 00:06:46,774 --> 00:06:49,241 [Steve] Do they all look the same? Can you describe 'em? 140 00:06:49,243 --> 00:06:53,578 They're blacker than black, the blackest you've ever seen, and that's them. 141 00:06:53,580 --> 00:06:55,914 You're positive it's not people walking by or... 142 00:06:55,916 --> 00:06:58,850 - [Nikki] Positive. - animals outside, nothing like that? 143 00:06:58,852 --> 00:07:01,119 I leave all my blinds closed at night. 144 00:07:01,121 --> 00:07:03,855 The lights will be on and I'll still see 'em. 145 00:07:03,857 --> 00:07:04,956 [Steve] Do they do anything? 146 00:07:04,958 --> 00:07:07,726 Um, they physically drain me. 147 00:07:07,728 --> 00:07:10,228 And I also think that they're messing with my mind, 148 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:12,964 because I'll set a task to do 149 00:07:12,966 --> 00:07:15,066 and I'll go in circles 150 00:07:15,068 --> 00:07:18,537 and do other things before I can make my way back to it. 151 00:07:18,539 --> 00:07:20,906 - [Steve] All right. - It's like I'm scatter brained. 152 00:07:20,908 --> 00:07:23,675 All right, so you got a lot going on. What else? 153 00:07:23,677 --> 00:07:26,778 Every single night I wake up 154 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:30,348 and there are spirits standing all around me. 155 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:31,382 When you, when you say spirits, 156 00:07:31,384 --> 00:07:33,285 - these are all people, right? - [Nikki] People. 157 00:07:33,287 --> 00:07:34,853 Do they say anything? 158 00:07:34,855 --> 00:07:36,922 A lot of 'em say, "Help me," 159 00:07:36,924 --> 00:07:38,557 or "I wanna go home." 160 00:07:38,559 --> 00:07:40,592 When you say, they, how many we talking? 161 00:07:40,594 --> 00:07:43,929 There's about eight that stand around my bed. 162 00:07:43,931 --> 00:07:48,700 In the past, people that have had those experience wind up being mediums. 163 00:07:48,702 --> 00:07:51,269 Has anybody ever, uh, told you, you might have mediumship? 164 00:07:51,271 --> 00:07:54,072 No, I've had a lot of weird things happen, 165 00:07:54,074 --> 00:07:56,141 but nobody's ever told me that. 166 00:08:04,818 --> 00:08:06,785 [Amy] What is going on? 167 00:08:06,787 --> 00:08:09,287 I feel somebody with abilities. 168 00:08:13,193 --> 00:08:17,262 I'm feeling somebody maybe in their 30s. 169 00:08:17,264 --> 00:08:19,264 I feel longer hair, 170 00:08:19,266 --> 00:08:20,999 she's like a medium. 171 00:08:21,001 --> 00:08:23,435 Like, I'm seeing the mourners here, 172 00:08:23,437 --> 00:08:27,873 I'm seeing the mourners there, like coming in, coming in. 173 00:08:27,875 --> 00:08:30,041 The living may see them. 174 00:08:30,043 --> 00:08:33,044 I'm hearing the dead lady saying, 175 00:08:33,046 --> 00:08:36,081 "Why won't you help us? Why won't you help us?" 176 00:08:36,083 --> 00:08:38,783 It's very aggressive. 177 00:08:38,785 --> 00:08:43,054 So I'm hearing a female being like, "Get the [bleep] away from me. 178 00:08:43,056 --> 00:08:45,657 Get the [bleep] out." 179 00:08:45,659 --> 00:08:49,661 So I think that this living person is exhausted 180 00:08:49,663 --> 00:08:51,963 from being, you know, dealing with this 181 00:08:51,965 --> 00:08:54,566 and not getting sleep and being drained, 182 00:08:54,568 --> 00:08:59,237 and it triggered like a real illness. 183 00:08:59,239 --> 00:09:01,473 You know what I'm saying? Like something bad. 184 00:09:03,911 --> 00:09:05,577 [Steve] Anything else? 185 00:09:05,579 --> 00:09:07,512 I've been touched all over my body. 186 00:09:08,849 --> 00:09:12,150 Okay. So, how are you being touched and where? 187 00:09:12,152 --> 00:09:16,121 Brush against my shoulder, tap me on my back, 188 00:09:16,123 --> 00:09:18,089 rub my hair. 189 00:09:18,091 --> 00:09:19,124 Does it feel like a human hand? 190 00:09:19,126 --> 00:09:20,959 [Nikki] Oh, yeah. 191 00:09:20,961 --> 00:09:23,228 - [Steve] Can you tell if it's a male or a female? - No. 192 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:24,796 Okay, so what else? 193 00:09:24,798 --> 00:09:26,364 And I had a nightmare 194 00:09:26,366 --> 00:09:28,433 and in the nightmare I was... 195 00:09:30,003 --> 00:09:31,269 sexually assaulted, 196 00:09:31,271 --> 00:09:33,104 and I woke up the next morning 197 00:09:33,106 --> 00:09:37,042 and I had bruises all over 198 00:09:37,044 --> 00:09:38,143 my private area. 199 00:09:38,145 --> 00:09:39,911 I've never been a victim before 200 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:42,547 and talking about it, it just, it embarrasses me 201 00:09:42,549 --> 00:09:45,417 that something paranormal did this to me 202 00:09:45,419 --> 00:09:48,386 and I can't fight back. 203 00:09:48,388 --> 00:09:51,790 Don't be embarrassed, because I'm listening to you. 204 00:09:51,792 --> 00:09:53,892 Okay? Just... 205 00:09:53,894 --> 00:09:55,293 - [Nikki sniffles] - I'm not here to judge you. 206 00:09:56,930 --> 00:09:59,931 If Amy says you can't fix this, you have to leave... 207 00:09:59,933 --> 00:10:02,100 - I'll find a way to leave. - Okay. 208 00:10:02,102 --> 00:10:04,069 [Nikki] I'll have to, I can't live like this. 209 00:10:04,071 --> 00:10:06,338 I need you guys, I really do. 210 00:10:09,176 --> 00:10:13,712 [Amy] These mourners are surrounding the bed 211 00:10:13,714 --> 00:10:15,580 of this person, this female. 212 00:10:16,583 --> 00:10:18,516 They're standing there, they're standing there. 213 00:10:18,518 --> 00:10:21,353 If this person falls asleep, it goes bad, it goes sideways. 214 00:10:21,355 --> 00:10:23,555 - [Matthew] What does that mean? - Uh, 'cause they can't then, 215 00:10:23,557 --> 00:10:24,823 like, protect themselves. 216 00:10:24,825 --> 00:10:30,161 They're touching her ankles and... and her feet. 217 00:10:30,163 --> 00:10:32,831 I think it's the dead lady who's pushing on the chest, 218 00:10:32,833 --> 00:10:34,332 so I can't [bleep] breathe now, 219 00:10:34,334 --> 00:10:36,067 like they were crushed to death. 220 00:10:38,105 --> 00:10:42,374 I think they might be like trying to kill her. 221 00:11:08,502 --> 00:11:12,137 So Toni, Nikki says you guys have been at each other's throats. 222 00:11:12,139 --> 00:11:13,905 I mean, how bad has it gotten? 223 00:11:13,907 --> 00:11:15,807 It's gotten to where it got violent. 224 00:11:15,809 --> 00:11:17,676 She's blaming it all on the paranormal, 225 00:11:17,678 --> 00:11:19,310 that's one of the reasons she called us in. 226 00:11:19,312 --> 00:11:20,945 - Mmm-hmm. - Uh, do you agree with that? 227 00:11:20,947 --> 00:11:22,013 Yes. 228 00:11:22,015 --> 00:11:25,550 She's turned into someone and myself also, 229 00:11:25,552 --> 00:11:28,553 um, when we start fighting, we get so enraged, 230 00:11:28,555 --> 00:11:33,324 and she's never been the type to be confrontational. 231 00:11:33,326 --> 00:11:34,592 You know lately... 232 00:11:36,163 --> 00:11:37,562 I feel like she hates me. 233 00:11:38,999 --> 00:11:40,799 You know she doesn't. 234 00:11:40,801 --> 00:11:42,366 I know. 235 00:11:43,637 --> 00:11:46,571 [Steve] Okay, can you tell me about some of the experiences you've had? 236 00:11:46,573 --> 00:11:51,676 I've seen an apparition of Nikki's friend, Sean, who's passed, in the hallway. 237 00:11:51,678 --> 00:11:54,879 Did he look like he was when he was alive? Did he look any different? 238 00:11:54,881 --> 00:11:57,015 He looked like he was when he was alive. 239 00:11:57,017 --> 00:12:00,919 Okay. Now your sister, Nikki thinks he's here, do you? 240 00:12:00,921 --> 00:12:02,987 I definitely think Sean's here at times, 241 00:12:02,989 --> 00:12:05,590 I think, that's what's kept us safe so long. 242 00:12:05,592 --> 00:12:07,324 All right, anything else? 243 00:12:07,326 --> 00:12:10,862 Lately, I've been hearing a series of like four knocks on the wall. 244 00:12:10,864 --> 00:12:13,064 - Where? - From either the wall 245 00:12:13,066 --> 00:12:14,666 in my sister's bathroom 246 00:12:14,668 --> 00:12:18,069 or on the very far wall in her room. 247 00:12:18,071 --> 00:12:20,572 - How loud is it? Can you, ca... can you show me? - [Toni] Yeah, 248 00:12:20,574 --> 00:12:23,041 it's kind of... [knocks] 249 00:12:23,043 --> 00:12:25,110 - All right. - And it's four knocks every time. 250 00:12:25,112 --> 00:12:27,212 And how often would you say it's happening? 251 00:12:27,214 --> 00:12:30,582 I myself have heard it five or six different times. 252 00:12:30,584 --> 00:12:32,517 So wh... what, what do you think is here? 253 00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:35,987 I don't know what's here, but I would hate to see my sister leave her home 254 00:12:35,989 --> 00:12:38,990 because, you know, this was kind of like her dream home, 255 00:12:38,992 --> 00:12:40,759 and I just want her to have peace. 256 00:12:40,761 --> 00:12:42,193 Okay. 257 00:12:45,899 --> 00:12:49,868 [Amy] Okay, I can't with that... I just... Oh, my God! 258 00:12:49,870 --> 00:12:53,171 I saw some man who's definitely dead, 259 00:12:53,173 --> 00:12:57,909 uh, and he is like bouncing off the [bleep] walls and the ceiling, 260 00:12:57,911 --> 00:12:59,944 making like, thumping noises, I guess. 261 00:12:59,946 --> 00:13:02,280 [thumping] 262 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:05,150 Does anybody who lives here now have any interaction with him? 263 00:13:05,152 --> 00:13:08,119 Oh, they hear him, for damn sure 264 00:13:08,121 --> 00:13:10,421 and he's [bleep] pissed. 265 00:13:12,692 --> 00:13:15,093 Like, I don't even know anybody who could be in this room, 266 00:13:15,095 --> 00:13:18,329 or like... Oh, my God, my head's spinning, 267 00:13:18,331 --> 00:13:21,299 he's draining, very draining energy. 268 00:13:21,301 --> 00:13:24,936 He makes you very agitated, 269 00:13:24,938 --> 00:13:27,572 uh, very dizzy, 270 00:13:27,574 --> 00:13:31,009 scrambles your brain so you can't think straight. 271 00:13:38,985 --> 00:13:41,219 So, Sherri, I understand that you're Nikki's good friend 272 00:13:41,221 --> 00:13:42,687 and you were Sean's... 273 00:13:42,689 --> 00:13:44,289 - Fiancee. - fiancee. 274 00:13:44,291 --> 00:13:47,559 -My condolences. I'm very sorry for your loss. -Thank you. 275 00:13:47,561 --> 00:13:50,195 Nikki's told me some crazy stuff that's going on here. 276 00:13:50,197 --> 00:13:51,062 Yeah. 277 00:13:51,064 --> 00:13:53,097 Have you had experiences yet? 278 00:13:53,099 --> 00:13:56,134 Yeah, I see a tall, dark, shadow figure in the house. 279 00:13:56,136 --> 00:13:57,569 I've seen it multiple times. 280 00:13:57,571 --> 00:13:59,237 Does it look like a human? 281 00:13:59,239 --> 00:14:04,776 It's got the outline of a shoulders, neck, head but... 282 00:14:04,778 --> 00:14:05,877 Okay. 283 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:08,880 I mean, you can't see anything, it's just black. 284 00:14:08,882 --> 00:14:10,949 Okay, and you don't believe it's a shadow 285 00:14:10,951 --> 00:14:13,585 - coming in from the outside somehow. - No, because we've seen it. 286 00:14:13,587 --> 00:14:14,953 I mean, we see it at night-time 287 00:14:14,955 --> 00:14:17,188 and there's no way there's of the shadow coming from the outside. 288 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:20,091 - She keeps her blinds closed. - All right. 289 00:14:20,093 --> 00:14:21,559 All right. So this shadow, 290 00:14:21,561 --> 00:14:24,028 he didn't look anything like Sean did, right? 291 00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:25,563 -No -[Steve] Nothing like that? 292 00:14:25,565 --> 00:14:27,599 -No -Can you physically describe 293 00:14:27,601 --> 00:14:29,300 what, uh, Sean looked like? 294 00:14:29,302 --> 00:14:31,803 Actually, I have a picture of him if you wanna see it. 295 00:14:31,805 --> 00:14:33,438 He was a good looking guy. 296 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,108 [Sherri] He was, and he was, he was a really, really great person. 297 00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:39,077 You know, it's hard to talk about, but Nikki thinks 298 00:14:39,079 --> 00:14:41,980 that whatever's here might have contributed 299 00:14:41,982 --> 00:14:44,048 to Sean's death. 300 00:14:44,851 --> 00:14:48,086 In a way, I think maybe it might have. 301 00:14:48,088 --> 00:14:50,555 Now, do you think he's still around? Do you think he's here? 302 00:14:51,892 --> 00:14:53,157 I hope not. 303 00:14:57,898 --> 00:14:59,731 [Amy] There's another dead guy, 304 00:14:59,733 --> 00:15:02,634 and he's like yelling and screaming. 305 00:15:02,636 --> 00:15:04,936 I don't know if it was like a neighbor 306 00:15:04,938 --> 00:15:07,038 or like he lived... I don't know if he lived here 307 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,539 or he lived at that house. 308 00:15:08,541 --> 00:15:11,576 I see like, you know, uh, brown hair, I think, 309 00:15:11,578 --> 00:15:14,279 and he's, he's you know, he's a big guy. 310 00:15:14,281 --> 00:15:17,248 This would be, uh, fairly recent. 311 00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:19,250 There's a lot of anxiety... 312 00:15:20,754 --> 00:15:23,121 fear, panic 313 00:15:23,123 --> 00:15:27,158 and he's yelling 'cause it, you know, he's having a heart attack. 314 00:15:27,694 --> 00:15:29,426 He was calling it hell. 315 00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:43,908 [Steve] So I just got a call from an historian I've worked with before, 316 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:46,911 he did some digging for me and hit the jackpot. 317 00:15:46,913 --> 00:15:49,580 Turns out one of the first owners of Nikki's property 318 00:15:49,582 --> 00:15:51,349 suffered a whole bunch of family deaths 319 00:15:51,351 --> 00:15:53,551 from the moment they set foot on the land. 320 00:16:00,727 --> 00:16:02,593 Before we get into this family's bad times 321 00:16:02,595 --> 00:16:05,129 on my client's property, uh, what do we know about it? 322 00:16:05,131 --> 00:16:09,000 The Powell family is some of the first to own your client's property. 323 00:16:09,002 --> 00:16:13,037 - Okay. - Their patriarch was a man named, Charles Powell. 324 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:15,106 While they're owning the land, they have eight kids 325 00:16:15,108 --> 00:16:16,975 and 21 grandkids. 326 00:16:16,977 --> 00:16:19,444 Jesus, that's a lot of kids. 327 00:16:21,047 --> 00:16:24,015 [Steve] I know things do start to go wrong, when did that happen? 328 00:16:24,017 --> 00:16:26,117 Pretty much right from the beginning, Steve. 329 00:16:26,119 --> 00:16:28,419 They buy the property in 1882... 330 00:16:28,421 --> 00:16:30,088 - Okay. - [Matt] ...and by 1900, 331 00:16:30,090 --> 00:16:32,790 the family has already experienced three deaths. 332 00:16:32,792 --> 00:16:34,192 The first two were children. 333 00:16:34,194 --> 00:16:37,028 Now, unfortunately, we do not know their names, 334 00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:39,664 but importantly, in 1897, 335 00:16:39,666 --> 00:16:43,267 Charles, who was 60 years old at the time, passes away. 336 00:16:45,038 --> 00:16:46,304 [Steve] Do we know what he died from? 337 00:16:46,306 --> 00:16:47,705 Unfortunately, no. 338 00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:49,674 Okay, so now... 339 00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:51,876 are things getting better for them after all this? 340 00:16:51,878 --> 00:16:55,146 No, in 1914, Ellen's daughter, Lizzy 341 00:16:55,148 --> 00:16:58,349 loses a 10-month-old baby girl to meningitis. 342 00:16:58,351 --> 00:17:01,819 1917, winds up being even worse for the family. 343 00:17:01,821 --> 00:17:04,255 The oldest son, Thomas... 344 00:17:04,257 --> 00:17:07,925 - [Steve] Okay. - he loses his one-month-old son, Carl, 345 00:17:07,927 --> 00:17:08,893 to whooping cough. 346 00:17:08,895 --> 00:17:10,795 In October, 347 00:17:10,797 --> 00:17:13,097 Lizzie dies of peritonitis, 348 00:17:13,099 --> 00:17:14,699 a ruptured appendix. 349 00:17:14,701 --> 00:17:16,834 [Steve] Ooh! Does it get any better for these guys? 350 00:17:16,836 --> 00:17:18,536 Well, the 1920s are pretty quiet 351 00:17:18,538 --> 00:17:20,271 - for the family, Steve... - [Steve] Okay. 352 00:17:20,273 --> 00:17:23,074 but really, that's just kind of the calm before the storm. 353 00:17:23,076 --> 00:17:26,010 In 1930, a new wave starts. 354 00:17:26,012 --> 00:17:28,046 The family loses their matriarch, Ellen. 355 00:17:28,048 --> 00:17:31,082 Ellen was 80, and she dies from kidney disease. 356 00:17:31,084 --> 00:17:32,850 And then Ed, 357 00:17:32,852 --> 00:17:35,586 he dies at 42 from the flu. 358 00:17:35,588 --> 00:17:37,922 - Oh. - So a little more of a surprise. 359 00:17:37,924 --> 00:17:41,192 Of the original eight children of Charles and Ellen, there's four left. 360 00:17:41,194 --> 00:17:42,393 Okay, so what happened? 361 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:44,862 So first off, William's wife, Etta, 362 00:17:44,864 --> 00:17:48,800 she dies at age 54 from acute myocarditis. 363 00:17:48,802 --> 00:17:51,069 Interestingly enough, six years later, 364 00:17:51,071 --> 00:17:56,174 her son, William Jr., dies of the same thing when he's only 28. 365 00:17:56,176 --> 00:17:59,944 And then finally, William Sr., on his 70th birthday, 366 00:17:59,946 --> 00:18:03,081 he is killed by a massive heart attack. 367 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:05,650 Okay, so heart disease in this family runs rampant. 368 00:18:05,652 --> 00:18:07,018 [Matt] Very much so. 369 00:18:07,020 --> 00:18:13,024 And then Lucy's husband, Isaac, in 1944, he dies of a stroke 370 00:18:13,026 --> 00:18:16,294 just to seal that off, late in 1947, 371 00:18:16,296 --> 00:18:18,930 Thomas, the oldest son, 372 00:18:18,932 --> 00:18:21,732 he dies also of a stroke. 373 00:18:21,734 --> 00:18:23,868 - These are all their death certificates? - That's all of 'em. 374 00:18:23,870 --> 00:18:25,636 [Steve] All right, so body count, 375 00:18:25,638 --> 00:18:27,638 wh... where are we at, at this point? How many? 376 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:32,110 We're at 13 over three generations while they own this property. 377 00:18:32,112 --> 00:18:35,179 I mean, deaths happen, but this is a little over the top. 378 00:18:37,951 --> 00:18:40,952 [Amy] I'm seeing three generations of dead males, 379 00:18:40,954 --> 00:18:44,989 so the youngest male, uh, was in his mid to late teens, 380 00:18:44,991 --> 00:18:47,925 the middle male, which I'm calling him Thomas, 381 00:18:47,927 --> 00:18:49,827 was in his 30s, 382 00:18:49,829 --> 00:18:55,333 uh, and then the oldest, uh, male was in his late 40s, early 50s, 383 00:18:55,335 --> 00:18:57,201 and he said it was his land. 384 00:19:01,708 --> 00:19:04,308 They all had guns, rifles. 385 00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:06,410 They were upset about their land, 386 00:19:06,412 --> 00:19:09,480 uh, and they're always around watching outside. 387 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:12,884 And Thomas, 388 00:19:12,886 --> 00:19:15,586 he told me that him and his boys, 389 00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:19,957 uh, had to fight a lot against the beggars and natives 390 00:19:19,959 --> 00:19:22,693 for their land, to protect their land, I'm thinking. 391 00:19:22,695 --> 00:19:26,063 He would think whatever they did was like, evil. 392 00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:29,667 [Steve] So I'm heading over to meet a local TV news reporter. 393 00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:33,971 She reached out to me to tell me about a deadly flood that devastated the area. 394 00:19:33,973 --> 00:19:37,508 Said it was so bad, it left about a million people homeless. 395 00:19:45,251 --> 00:19:47,785 [Steve] All right, so this big flood, when did it happen? 396 00:19:47,787 --> 00:19:49,954 [Leslie] It was January of 1937, 397 00:19:49,956 --> 00:19:51,956 an extreme amount of rainfall fell 398 00:19:51,958 --> 00:19:55,693 and it affected towns all along the Ohio River. 399 00:19:55,695 --> 00:19:57,161 When we spoke on the phone, you said, 400 00:19:57,163 --> 00:19:58,930 about a million people lost their homes, 401 00:19:58,932 --> 00:20:01,332 what, what was the death toll connected with that? 402 00:20:01,334 --> 00:20:03,701 Approximately 350 died. 403 00:20:03,703 --> 00:20:05,803 [Steve] How did this flood affect Kentucky? 404 00:20:05,805 --> 00:20:08,005 The amount of rain that fell that January 405 00:20:08,007 --> 00:20:11,042 was unmatched, and it rained for 20 days straight. 406 00:20:11,044 --> 00:20:12,977 - Wow. - The damage was just widespread, 407 00:20:12,979 --> 00:20:16,547 and I have some pictures of the towns that were flooded here. 408 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:19,317 [Steve] They must have thought it was the end of the world when this happened. 409 00:20:19,319 --> 00:20:22,119 Now on the phone, you mentioned three people died by my client's property, 410 00:20:22,121 --> 00:20:23,154 tell me about them. 411 00:20:23,156 --> 00:20:26,224 One of those was 34-year-old, Harry Crumb. 412 00:20:26,226 --> 00:20:28,192 He was in a boat, it overturned, 413 00:20:28,194 --> 00:20:30,795 that was ruled an accidental drowning. 414 00:20:30,797 --> 00:20:32,163 - Okay. - [Leslie] There was also a widow, 415 00:20:32,165 --> 00:20:35,633 she was 81 years old, her name is Martha Callahan. 416 00:20:35,635 --> 00:20:38,369 Her death certificate said that she died from shock 417 00:20:38,371 --> 00:20:41,172 due to exposure to the flood, as you can see here. 418 00:20:41,174 --> 00:20:42,974 [Steve] Okay, so what about the other one? 419 00:20:42,976 --> 00:20:45,142 [Leslie] Fifty-six-year old, Agnes Jones. 420 00:20:45,144 --> 00:20:48,246 She was just about a mile and a half from your client's home. 421 00:20:48,248 --> 00:20:50,248 She was in a three-story building, 422 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:52,683 it collapsed, she died in the collapse, 423 00:20:52,685 --> 00:20:56,254 the building just gave way due to the severity of the floodwater. 424 00:20:58,992 --> 00:21:01,325 [Amy] I'm seeing those mourners again, 425 00:21:01,327 --> 00:21:06,497 so I guess there used to be some kind of roadway here. 426 00:21:09,569 --> 00:21:10,734 One of the mourners 427 00:21:10,903 --> 00:21:13,537 she's indicating like they always traveled this road 428 00:21:13,539 --> 00:21:15,373 for the dead. 429 00:21:15,375 --> 00:21:18,576 Like, I don't know if they're, like, burying dead people 430 00:21:18,578 --> 00:21:20,144 or they're like giving them, 431 00:21:20,146 --> 00:21:22,980 like, you know, their final thing. 432 00:21:22,982 --> 00:21:25,816 But they knew all of each other in life, 433 00:21:25,818 --> 00:21:28,853 they lost a lot of people at the same time, 434 00:21:28,855 --> 00:21:30,988 very angry about that. 435 00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:33,157 I guess a lot of their friends and family died 436 00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:34,925 at the same time 437 00:21:34,927 --> 00:21:40,031 because... like something about the water... 438 00:21:45,204 --> 00:21:46,804 Oh, my God! 439 00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:49,006 So they're pretty pissed about that. 440 00:21:54,981 --> 00:21:56,947 For more information about the show, 441 00:21:56,949 --> 00:21:58,582 and if you need us to investigate 442 00:21:58,584 --> 00:22:00,418 unexplained activity in your home... 443 00:22:00,420 --> 00:22:03,988 Please visit TravelChannel.com/ TheDeadFiles. 444 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:06,057 Click on, "Help me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 445 00:22:06,059 --> 00:22:07,258 and we'll help if we can. 446 00:22:15,134 --> 00:22:16,901 [Steve] So far, I've got a client who's convinced 447 00:22:16,903 --> 00:22:20,004 something in her house killed her best friend, 448 00:22:20,006 --> 00:22:21,839 on a property where one of the previous owners 449 00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:24,775 suffered 13 tragic family deaths. 450 00:22:24,777 --> 00:22:26,310 But I wanna see if there's anything else. 451 00:22:29,182 --> 00:22:30,414 Searching through old records, 452 00:22:30,416 --> 00:22:32,048 I find a heartbreaking story 453 00:22:32,118 --> 00:22:35,886 about a one-armed cop who was brutally murdered in the line of duty, 454 00:22:35,888 --> 00:22:37,688 not far from Nikki's house. 455 00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:38,856 But what really pisses me off, 456 00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:41,559 it was his last day on the job. 457 00:22:41,561 --> 00:22:45,396 So I tracked down the victim's great grandson who agreed to talk to me. 458 00:22:45,398 --> 00:22:46,931 Now, he says, to this day, 459 00:22:46,933 --> 00:22:50,401 the family's convinced there was never any justice in this case. 460 00:22:56,876 --> 00:23:00,778 Jason, thanks for meeting with me and talking about something so personal. 461 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:03,881 Before we get to the murder of your great grandfather, 462 00:23:03,883 --> 00:23:05,783 what did you know about it? What'd you find out? 463 00:23:05,785 --> 00:23:06,984 My great grandfather, Clarence, 464 00:23:06,986 --> 00:23:09,320 was a really respected man, uh, 465 00:23:09,322 --> 00:23:11,856 a pillar of the community type of individual. 466 00:23:11,858 --> 00:23:13,824 He worked for the Chesapeake 467 00:23:13,826 --> 00:23:16,927 and Ohio railway system for 17 years. 468 00:23:16,929 --> 00:23:19,163 It was in that line of work that there was an accident 469 00:23:19,165 --> 00:23:22,133 - where he lost, uh, part of his left arm. - Oh! 470 00:23:22,135 --> 00:23:26,070 In 1949, he decides to reboot his life 471 00:23:26,072 --> 00:23:27,905 and he becomes a night watchman. 472 00:23:27,907 --> 00:23:30,708 This is in spite of his disability 473 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:32,943 and in spite of his age, he's in his 50s... 474 00:23:32,945 --> 00:23:34,245 - [Steve] Okay. - at that point. 475 00:23:34,247 --> 00:23:36,180 Okay, so now he's a night watchman 476 00:23:36,182 --> 00:23:38,215 - with the police department. - Mmm-hmm. 477 00:23:38,217 --> 00:23:40,084 What happens with the murder? What went down? 478 00:23:40,086 --> 00:23:41,852 It was in the really early hours 479 00:23:41,854 --> 00:23:43,921 of May the 11th, 1950, 480 00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:46,123 my great grandfather, he received a complaint 481 00:23:46,125 --> 00:23:47,625 about a drunk and disorderly man, 482 00:23:47,627 --> 00:23:48,926 Charles Cameron, 483 00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:51,762 and he was bringing him in to book in the city jail. 484 00:23:51,764 --> 00:23:54,732 So before they could even get to the cell, 485 00:23:54,734 --> 00:23:56,233 Charles basically took advantage 486 00:23:56,235 --> 00:23:58,836 of my great grandfather's disability. 487 00:23:58,838 --> 00:24:01,138 He was able to seize control of his gun... 488 00:24:01,140 --> 00:24:03,007 - Okay. - and he fired three shots. 489 00:24:03,009 --> 00:24:05,009 Uh, the first shot missed, 490 00:24:05,011 --> 00:24:08,612 the second shot went into the stub of his missing arm, 491 00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:11,115 and the third shot went into the side of his head 492 00:24:11,117 --> 00:24:14,985 and that, as it turns out, was the fatal shot. 493 00:24:15,888 --> 00:24:17,922 [Steve] You know, there's nothing worse in the world that 494 00:24:17,924 --> 00:24:20,224 for a cop to get killed with his own gun. 495 00:24:20,226 --> 00:24:21,892 This guy take off? 496 00:24:21,894 --> 00:24:23,828 Yeah, he takes off, he's, he's on the run. 497 00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:25,062 There was a big manhunt 498 00:24:25,064 --> 00:24:27,565 that took place the rest of that day and overnight, 499 00:24:27,567 --> 00:24:29,099 but he surrendered the next day. 500 00:24:29,101 --> 00:24:31,635 Okay, so he turns himself in, interesting. 501 00:24:31,637 --> 00:24:33,671 Now, Jason, did you mention to me on the phone 502 00:24:33,673 --> 00:24:36,907 that your great grandfather was like a half hour or so from retiring? 503 00:24:36,909 --> 00:24:39,844 He was literally in the last 30 minutes. 504 00:24:39,846 --> 00:24:41,712 So when the chief was coming in to relieve him, 505 00:24:41,714 --> 00:24:43,547 that should have been his last time on the job 506 00:24:43,549 --> 00:24:45,049 and he was going to a safer job after that. 507 00:24:45,051 --> 00:24:47,051 - Done deal. - [Steve] Oh, my God. 508 00:24:47,053 --> 00:24:49,553 This scumbag who killed your great grandfather 509 00:24:49,555 --> 00:24:52,223 do... does he go to trial, does he plea out, what happens? 510 00:24:52,225 --> 00:24:55,259 It goes to trial, uh, a jury finds him guilty of manslaughter, 511 00:24:55,261 --> 00:24:57,061 he's given a six-year sentence. 512 00:24:57,063 --> 00:25:00,197 This is not manslaughter. 513 00:25:00,199 --> 00:25:02,132 I mean, was your family pissed about this? 514 00:25:02,134 --> 00:25:04,168 Well, I think for his sons in particular, 515 00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:05,970 that was a really, really difficult, 516 00:25:05,972 --> 00:25:07,137 um, thing to understand. 517 00:25:07,139 --> 00:25:08,906 Do we know what happens to him after that at all? 518 00:25:08,908 --> 00:25:13,110 He eventually ends up back in prison anyway in 1967, 519 00:25:13,112 --> 00:25:17,014 among the charges this time were four lascivious acts with a child, 520 00:25:17,016 --> 00:25:20,251 here's a document that speaks to that. 521 00:25:20,253 --> 00:25:22,720 But that's where he spent the rest of his life was behind bars. 522 00:25:22,722 --> 00:25:24,255 - So he dies in prison. - He does. 523 00:25:24,257 --> 00:25:26,490 Good, so he finally got what he deserved 524 00:25:26,492 --> 00:25:29,527 and that had to make your family feel a little bit better. 525 00:25:31,764 --> 00:25:34,598 [Amy] I'm seeing that dead guy who bounces off the ceiling again. 526 00:25:37,003 --> 00:25:39,703 He doesn't wanna be here, he didn't wanna come back, 527 00:25:39,705 --> 00:25:42,406 and he's making a racket. 528 00:25:43,776 --> 00:25:46,377 - [Matthew] Is that affecting you now. - [Amy] Yeah. 529 00:25:48,147 --> 00:25:51,081 I'm trying to not engage at all. 530 00:25:51,083 --> 00:25:54,151 Headache... looks like it's... 531 00:25:54,153 --> 00:25:57,288 He's not in a complete form, 532 00:25:57,290 --> 00:26:01,292 he was like, I think, 50s maybe. 533 00:26:01,294 --> 00:26:03,093 He had facial hair 534 00:26:03,095 --> 00:26:05,796 and he's [bleep] pissed. 535 00:26:05,798 --> 00:26:07,665 So this dude died, 536 00:26:07,667 --> 00:26:12,303 moved on and then got pulled back... 537 00:26:14,006 --> 00:26:18,175 but now is staying and going bat [bleep]. 538 00:26:18,177 --> 00:26:20,277 Have you ever seen anything like this before? 539 00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:21,512 No. 540 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:24,181 It's freaking me out. 541 00:26:30,389 --> 00:26:32,590 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, 542 00:26:32,592 --> 00:26:34,825 but two concerned me the most. 543 00:26:34,827 --> 00:26:38,329 First, the crazy guy who bounces off the ceilings. 544 00:26:38,331 --> 00:26:42,900 He is mostly just energy, 545 00:26:42,902 --> 00:26:44,034 pretty white... 546 00:26:45,905 --> 00:26:50,140 and you can see the movement, like lines of movement. 547 00:26:51,911 --> 00:26:53,310 Next, I described 548 00:26:53,646 --> 00:26:57,247 the group of mourners surrounding a living woman in her bedroom. 549 00:26:57,249 --> 00:27:00,551 The bed is surrounded by about seven people... 550 00:27:01,721 --> 00:27:04,088 and two of them are men, 551 00:27:04,090 --> 00:27:07,257 uh, and they're definitely the tallest, 552 00:27:07,259 --> 00:27:09,760 they're dressed in mourning clothing, 553 00:27:09,762 --> 00:27:13,964 both the men had top hats, and all the women were wearing veils. 554 00:27:17,069 --> 00:27:18,502 Amy is this what you saw? 555 00:27:19,872 --> 00:27:22,006 Yes, that's what I saw. 556 00:27:44,864 --> 00:27:47,765 [Steve] Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 557 00:27:47,767 --> 00:27:50,167 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 558 00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:52,403 and our clients for the first time. 559 00:27:53,506 --> 00:27:55,706 So guys, I'd like you to meet Amy. 560 00:27:55,708 --> 00:27:58,208 Um, she's gonna be doing the reveal from one of your other bedrooms 561 00:27:58,210 --> 00:27:59,910 so she could focus on your case 562 00:27:59,912 --> 00:28:02,579 and the dead without any distractions. 563 00:28:02,581 --> 00:28:05,149 Amy, meet the two sisters who live here. 564 00:28:05,151 --> 00:28:06,684 This is Nikki here, 565 00:28:06,686 --> 00:28:08,719 and this is her sister, Toni. 566 00:28:08,721 --> 00:28:10,754 Now, these guys are scared to death, 567 00:28:10,756 --> 00:28:13,824 they believe that whatever's here has killed before 568 00:28:13,826 --> 00:28:15,259 and it's out for blood again, 569 00:28:15,261 --> 00:28:18,162 so unless she has any questions, 570 00:28:18,164 --> 00:28:19,463 she'll tell us about her walk. 571 00:28:22,334 --> 00:28:24,835 I went out to the carport, 572 00:28:24,837 --> 00:28:28,806 I encountered a male, 573 00:28:28,808 --> 00:28:32,743 uh, who was yelling and screaming, uh, in pain 574 00:28:32,745 --> 00:28:36,213 and it seemed to me, he was having a heart attack. 575 00:28:36,215 --> 00:28:40,951 And I got that this happened fairly recently, 576 00:28:40,953 --> 00:28:44,021 and this residual energy is so intense 577 00:28:44,023 --> 00:28:47,891 that I believe, uh, living people 578 00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:51,895 when they're out there could feel like sudden anxiety, 579 00:28:51,897 --> 00:28:53,697 like for no reason, 580 00:28:53,699 --> 00:28:57,167 uh, and fear and panic, uh, 'cause that's what he felt 581 00:28:57,169 --> 00:29:00,204 stro... you know, very much in that moment outside. 582 00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:04,174 Amy, now's probably a good time to tell you 583 00:29:04,176 --> 00:29:06,376 what one of the main reasons 584 00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:09,680 Nikki called us in is. Close friend of hers died 585 00:29:09,682 --> 00:29:12,716 of a heart attack recently, less than a year. 586 00:29:12,718 --> 00:29:15,586 Now, his name was Sean, he was 41 years old, 587 00:29:15,588 --> 00:29:19,089 uh, he never lived here, but he was here all the time, right? 588 00:29:20,626 --> 00:29:23,761 I just feel like something here did something to him. 589 00:29:23,763 --> 00:29:28,132 We were fighting that day, all of a sudden, he just boom. 590 00:29:28,134 --> 00:29:30,901 - And you're beating yourself up about it. - Yeah. 591 00:29:30,903 --> 00:29:32,970 - Quite a bit. - [Steve] Yeah. 592 00:29:32,972 --> 00:29:36,640 Tell Amy why you think Sean's still here. 593 00:29:36,642 --> 00:29:39,243 I... sometimes I'll hear his voice and he'll say... 594 00:29:41,147 --> 00:29:45,115 "Nikki, watch out. Don't trust 'em. Be careful." 595 00:29:45,117 --> 00:29:47,885 Toni, you just told me you saw an apparition of Sean. 596 00:29:47,887 --> 00:29:51,021 Yes. I had seen an apparition, it looked just like Sean. 597 00:29:51,023 --> 00:29:53,857 I mean, only it was kind of transparent. 598 00:29:53,859 --> 00:29:56,827 Amy, I got a photo of Sean here. 599 00:29:56,829 --> 00:30:00,030 I'm curious if... maybe... 600 00:30:00,032 --> 00:30:01,164 he's who you saw. 601 00:30:03,903 --> 00:30:06,270 To me, it looked like his hair would have been longer. 602 00:30:06,272 --> 00:30:08,705 Did he have longer hair? 603 00:30:08,707 --> 00:30:10,040 - No. - No? It was short? 604 00:30:10,042 --> 00:30:11,875 Yeah, he usually kept it short. 605 00:30:11,877 --> 00:30:14,578 - Uh, so this could be somebody else entirely. - Okay. 606 00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:17,948 It doesn't mean that he's not coming and going. 607 00:30:17,950 --> 00:30:19,950 That could very well be the case 608 00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:22,219 or choosing to assist you as a guide. 609 00:30:22,221 --> 00:30:24,922 So that's a good thing... right? 610 00:30:24,924 --> 00:30:26,490 Yeah, I feel better about that. Yeah. 611 00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:31,929 [Steve] What else, Amy? 612 00:30:31,931 --> 00:30:34,731 When I came into this room, 613 00:30:34,733 --> 00:30:38,836 I did encounter, uh, a deceased male. 614 00:30:38,838 --> 00:30:39,970 [Steve] And that's Toni's room. 615 00:30:39,972 --> 00:30:41,872 He freaked me out. 616 00:30:41,874 --> 00:30:45,909 And he is like bouncing off the [bleep] walls and the ceiling, 617 00:30:45,911 --> 00:30:48,245 making like, thumping noises, I guess. 618 00:30:48,247 --> 00:30:50,347 [thumping] 619 00:30:51,984 --> 00:30:53,817 You'll hear, like knocks 620 00:30:53,819 --> 00:30:55,719 and they come in sets of four. 621 00:30:55,721 --> 00:30:58,589 And it sounds like they're on the back wall of the house, 622 00:30:58,591 --> 00:31:01,658 either in my room or Nikki's room. 623 00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:05,395 I absolutely think he has an effect on the living, 624 00:31:05,397 --> 00:31:07,965 obviously hearing these thumps and things. 625 00:31:07,967 --> 00:31:09,833 But also in here, 626 00:31:09,835 --> 00:31:13,837 extraordinarily draining energy, 627 00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:18,775 also feeling dizzy or like, not having good balance in here. 628 00:31:18,777 --> 00:31:21,979 - Can't think straight. - I can't get my thoughts straight. 629 00:31:21,981 --> 00:31:23,881 I'll have something to do 630 00:31:23,883 --> 00:31:26,884 and something will wipe my mind clear. 631 00:31:26,886 --> 00:31:28,151 I'm very concerned. 632 00:31:28,153 --> 00:31:30,153 She just kind of just stands there and stares 633 00:31:30,155 --> 00:31:32,389 and... like she's lost. 634 00:31:32,992 --> 00:31:36,226 Nikki, you also told me, you're drained 635 00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,362 - twenty four, seven. - [Nikki] I'm so tired all the time. 636 00:31:38,364 --> 00:31:40,998 If I set out to do a task, 637 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,968 somebody drains me. It... I feel it instantly. 638 00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:48,038 It feels like the life has been sucked out of me. 639 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,873 The interesting thing though, 640 00:31:49,875 --> 00:31:52,910 about this male, is that 641 00:31:52,912 --> 00:31:58,348 he is someone who did move on when he died. 642 00:31:58,350 --> 00:32:00,918 While he was transitioning, 643 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,020 - he got pulled back... - Ha! 644 00:32:03,022 --> 00:32:04,855 [Amy] ...and he's trapped here. 645 00:32:04,857 --> 00:32:08,225 He's very upset about this. He is angry, 646 00:32:08,227 --> 00:32:12,863 and his anger is starting con... to consume you. 647 00:32:12,865 --> 00:32:14,531 - [Steve] Who? Toni? - [Amy] Toni, yeah. 648 00:32:16,669 --> 00:32:18,101 Well, you know, 649 00:32:18,103 --> 00:32:20,070 one of the biggest problems that, that we talked about 650 00:32:20,072 --> 00:32:22,940 when I interviewed them was 651 00:32:22,942 --> 00:32:25,776 the anger, right? It was causing you two to fight. 652 00:32:25,778 --> 00:32:27,778 I get angry for no reason. 653 00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:31,248 I could flip the table and punch a hole through the wall. 654 00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:33,951 There's definitely some energetic exchange here 655 00:32:33,953 --> 00:32:35,552 between you and him, 656 00:32:35,554 --> 00:32:38,722 and you're absorbing a lot of his 657 00:32:38,724 --> 00:32:41,091 anger and negativity. 658 00:32:41,093 --> 00:32:43,226 - [Steve] You're okay? - [Toni] Mmm-hmm. 659 00:32:44,196 --> 00:32:47,464 I did have a sketch done of what I saw. 660 00:32:51,570 --> 00:32:54,137 He's more of an energy form. 661 00:33:00,412 --> 00:33:02,079 Oh, yeah. 662 00:33:02,081 --> 00:33:03,347 Freaks me out. 663 00:33:05,684 --> 00:33:07,050 [Nikki] I've seen this. 664 00:33:08,020 --> 00:33:10,253 - What have you seen? - I've seen him. 665 00:33:10,255 --> 00:33:13,590 I've seen this, exactly. 666 00:33:13,592 --> 00:33:15,559 That's kinda how my mind feels. 667 00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:22,165 [Steve] What else on your walk, Amy? Anything? 668 00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:26,703 Now I'm gonna talk about these other dead people that I encountered. 669 00:33:26,705 --> 00:33:29,773 There are seven of these people. 670 00:33:29,775 --> 00:33:34,611 They were all dressed in old fashioned mourning wear, 671 00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:36,546 which is all black. 672 00:33:36,548 --> 00:33:42,119 At some point, their family and friends were dying left and right. 673 00:33:42,121 --> 00:33:45,956 They indicated that it had something to do with water. 674 00:33:46,925 --> 00:33:49,559 The living would see them, 675 00:33:49,561 --> 00:33:53,296 especially going through the house. 676 00:33:53,298 --> 00:33:56,033 So I felt like, yeah, you guys would probably see 677 00:33:56,035 --> 00:33:58,735 like these shadow type figures. 678 00:33:58,737 --> 00:34:01,171 I see them all the time, all the time, 679 00:34:01,173 --> 00:34:05,042 and it's just right out the corner of my eye and it's gone. 680 00:34:05,044 --> 00:34:07,978 Now, I might have an idea of who these mourners are. 681 00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:11,815 In January of 1937, there was a massive storm here. 682 00:34:11,817 --> 00:34:15,385 In fact, it rained and poured for 20 days straight. 683 00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:18,088 Now, the Ohio river is, what, just a mile away from the house, 684 00:34:18,090 --> 00:34:20,257 and it flooded big time. 685 00:34:20,259 --> 00:34:23,060 It was felt all across the Midwest, from Pennsylvania, 686 00:34:23,062 --> 00:34:24,861 all the way to Illinois. 687 00:34:24,863 --> 00:34:26,596 I've actually got some photos here. 688 00:34:30,235 --> 00:34:31,935 - Holy cow! - [Steve] Yeah. 689 00:34:32,638 --> 00:34:34,905 Now, Amy, when it was all said and done, 690 00:34:34,907 --> 00:34:38,041 - nearly a million people were left homeless. - [Amy] Wow! 691 00:34:38,043 --> 00:34:39,709 Three hundred and fifty were dead. 692 00:34:39,711 --> 00:34:42,946 A few of those victims were right here near the house. 693 00:34:42,948 --> 00:34:45,782 Now, do you think those mourners you were talking about 694 00:34:45,784 --> 00:34:47,350 might be victims of the flood? 695 00:34:47,352 --> 00:34:50,854 It... it's a possibility that they knew family and friends 696 00:34:50,856 --> 00:34:52,255 who died in the flood. 697 00:34:52,257 --> 00:34:56,426 It didn't seem like any of them were the victims of the "water." 698 00:34:57,563 --> 00:35:03,166 So then I went into the back bedroom to the left. 699 00:35:03,168 --> 00:35:05,335 - [Steve] So that's your room, right Nikki? - Yes, it is. 700 00:35:05,337 --> 00:35:06,970 So I went in there... 701 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,207 and I did not like 702 00:35:10,209 --> 00:35:12,175 what they're doing to you. 703 00:35:12,177 --> 00:35:15,078 I got that you are in fact, a medium... 704 00:35:16,215 --> 00:35:19,316 and they are pissed. 705 00:35:19,318 --> 00:35:22,252 I heard something like you telling them 706 00:35:22,254 --> 00:35:24,287 to get the [bleep] out and leave you alone. 707 00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:25,589 I did. 708 00:35:25,591 --> 00:35:28,792 So they're upset about that 709 00:35:28,794 --> 00:35:31,828 because they're coming to you for help 710 00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:33,964 and you're not helping them. 711 00:35:33,966 --> 00:35:35,098 [Nikki] I knew I was medium. 712 00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:37,267 I, I wanted to hear you confirm it 713 00:35:37,269 --> 00:35:40,103 that I wasn't crazy, honestly. 714 00:35:40,105 --> 00:35:42,072 I've heard him ask for help. Asked, 715 00:35:42,074 --> 00:35:44,875 "Nikki, help me." I don't know how. 716 00:35:44,877 --> 00:35:48,211 I don't know how to help him, and I want to, I really do. 717 00:35:48,213 --> 00:35:52,749 And being exposed to that energy over time 718 00:35:52,751 --> 00:35:55,285 can make you physically ill. 719 00:35:55,287 --> 00:35:59,089 And I was worried that it had already triggered 720 00:35:59,091 --> 00:36:01,291 some kind of chronic illness. 721 00:36:02,027 --> 00:36:05,061 Um, I found a knot in my breast last year. 722 00:36:05,063 --> 00:36:07,831 That... yeah, I was worried about that. 723 00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:10,600 That's from the exposure to them. 724 00:36:10,602 --> 00:36:12,903 I'm okay. I'm, I'm good now, I just 725 00:36:12,905 --> 00:36:15,205 I didn't want anybody know about it. I was ashamed. 726 00:36:15,207 --> 00:36:16,439 I just wanted to... 727 00:36:17,209 --> 00:36:18,575 be numb. [sobs] 728 00:36:20,312 --> 00:36:22,145 Do you have an idea your sister might be a medium 729 00:36:22,147 --> 00:36:24,047 or is this like the first you're hearing of it? 730 00:36:24,049 --> 00:36:25,515 She would get agitated. 731 00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:27,784 She's like, "Don't you hear him? Don't you see that?" 732 00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:29,753 And I'm like, no, and she's like, "You can't tell me you don't." 733 00:36:29,755 --> 00:36:30,921 And she would get... 734 00:36:30,923 --> 00:36:33,256 - Nobody understands. - enraged if I don't. 735 00:36:33,258 --> 00:36:36,993 Well, you even have your friend tuck you in at night 736 00:36:36,995 --> 00:36:39,563 - sometimes. - It's so bad, um, it's so embarrassing. 737 00:36:39,565 --> 00:36:42,365 I'm 42 years old, this is just, uh, nuts. 738 00:36:42,367 --> 00:36:45,468 Like, I have my friends come over and they take turns. 739 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,573 [sniffles] 740 00:36:51,743 --> 00:36:54,144 Turning off my light for me because 741 00:36:54,146 --> 00:36:55,845 I can't turn my light switch off 742 00:36:55,847 --> 00:36:57,847 and walk to my bed in the dark. 743 00:36:57,849 --> 00:37:00,784 I did see the whole... like, 744 00:37:00,786 --> 00:37:05,288 them waking you when you're asleep and you can't move. 745 00:37:05,290 --> 00:37:07,557 I had a sketch done of, of what I saw. 746 00:37:20,205 --> 00:37:21,571 You live this, I don't. 747 00:37:23,175 --> 00:37:24,941 That's exactly, it. Yes. 748 00:37:24,943 --> 00:37:26,443 [Toni speaking] 749 00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:31,881 [Steve] Amy, it, it looks like they're going after her physically. 750 00:37:31,883 --> 00:37:34,551 - [Steve] Is that, is that what's happening? - [Amy] Yes. 751 00:37:34,553 --> 00:37:37,087 [Nikki] That's exactly what I live every day. 752 00:37:37,089 --> 00:37:40,056 Now they're like, getting aggressive with you, 753 00:37:40,058 --> 00:37:43,927 - um, and their intentions are not good. - Yeah. 754 00:37:43,929 --> 00:37:47,230 I saw the woman, like putting her hands together 755 00:37:47,232 --> 00:37:50,567 and like, leaning onto your chest. 756 00:37:50,569 --> 00:37:52,569 She was getting so intense 757 00:37:52,571 --> 00:37:55,005 with the, the pressure on your chest, 758 00:37:55,007 --> 00:37:58,241 and I'm like, I think she might be trying to kill you. 759 00:38:00,979 --> 00:38:03,980 -She wants me, I feel it. She wants me dead. -[Amy] Yeah. 760 00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:07,851 Well, you've had all kinds of physical attacks, you know? 761 00:38:07,853 --> 00:38:10,153 Mmm-hmm. I get touched all the time. 762 00:38:10,155 --> 00:38:12,289 Just a few minutes ago when you all were talking, 763 00:38:12,291 --> 00:38:14,958 I felt somebody grab my arm. 764 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,227 Yeah, that could be them. 765 00:38:17,229 --> 00:38:20,363 I had a dream that I was being... 766 00:38:22,868 --> 00:38:24,668 sexually assaulted, 767 00:38:24,670 --> 00:38:27,937 and I looked down and I had little fingerprints 768 00:38:27,939 --> 00:38:31,041 all over the insides of my thighs and my... 769 00:38:31,043 --> 00:38:35,979 private area was bruised and scratched, and it, it was bad. 770 00:38:35,981 --> 00:38:40,250 And I, I'm thinking, well, what if my dream was a reality? 771 00:38:40,285 --> 00:38:44,988 Everything that she's told me, you've pretty much verified so far. 772 00:38:44,990 --> 00:38:46,122 And that scares the hell out of me 773 00:38:46,124 --> 00:38:48,425 because she says on a daily, 774 00:38:48,427 --> 00:38:50,527 "Toni, I think they're trying to kill me. They want me dead." 775 00:39:05,177 --> 00:39:07,143 [Steve] So look, the good news is, you're not crazy. 776 00:39:07,145 --> 00:39:08,545 You got a lot going on here. 777 00:39:09,881 --> 00:39:11,848 Bad news is, you got a lot going on here. 778 00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:13,283 Now to answer the big question, 779 00:39:13,285 --> 00:39:17,087 can you stay and fight back and kick all the dead out, 780 00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:19,289 and go back to being loving sisters? 781 00:39:20,125 --> 00:39:22,192 For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 782 00:39:26,865 --> 00:39:31,568 I want a male medium to come here. 783 00:39:31,570 --> 00:39:36,773 He's going to make contact directly with these mourners, 784 00:39:36,775 --> 00:39:39,542 and he's going to find out specifically 785 00:39:39,544 --> 00:39:44,748 what they even need help with in order to move on. 786 00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:47,050 Then I'd like him 787 00:39:47,052 --> 00:39:50,987 and a male witch to come back, 788 00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:53,356 and they will move on all of the mourners. 789 00:39:55,794 --> 00:39:58,762 Then once that's completed, 790 00:39:58,764 --> 00:40:00,497 they're going to, uh, 791 00:40:00,499 --> 00:40:04,367 move on the semi-transitioned, trapped male. 792 00:40:04,369 --> 00:40:08,037 Toni, while that's happening, I want you to work with a healer. 793 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,340 She'll be working on you 794 00:40:10,342 --> 00:40:14,244 to remove any, uh, energy, 795 00:40:14,246 --> 00:40:15,845 uh, between you and him, 796 00:40:15,847 --> 00:40:17,847 and cut any cords 797 00:40:17,849 --> 00:40:20,984 uh, that may have been established between you and him. 798 00:40:23,922 --> 00:40:26,656 At the end of all of this, 799 00:40:26,658 --> 00:40:30,527 these people, if you want to work with them, 800 00:40:30,529 --> 00:40:35,231 will be able to help you learn about your abilities. 801 00:40:37,035 --> 00:40:40,904 So, one... once they get control of the dead that come in and out of here, 802 00:40:40,906 --> 00:40:43,907 her feeling drained all the time, that'll start to come back, 803 00:40:43,909 --> 00:40:46,075 - where she'll feel better and get some more sleep. - Oh, God! Yeah, yeah. 804 00:40:46,077 --> 00:40:50,180 You'll get some sleep, you'll feel a lot better. 805 00:40:50,182 --> 00:40:54,984 Uh, you know, for Toni, the anger will go away. 806 00:40:57,889 --> 00:41:01,958 I'm ready, yeah, I'm, I'm ready to get this done. 807 00:41:02,928 --> 00:41:04,894 I look forward to us healing and getting better, 808 00:41:04,896 --> 00:41:09,265 and I'm, I'm glad there's something we can do about it. 809 00:41:09,267 --> 00:41:12,502 I wanted us to be at peace with each other, not at each other's throats. 810 00:41:13,171 --> 00:41:15,171 It's doable now. 811 00:41:15,173 --> 00:41:18,775 It's just... some of the best news I've ever heard. 812 00:41:18,777 --> 00:41:21,678 I love you guys for this. 813 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,180 You're lifesaving, you are... It means the world to me, 814 00:41:24,182 --> 00:41:26,049 I don't know how to thank you guys, like... 815 00:41:26,051 --> 00:41:27,484 Life changing. 816 00:41:30,021 --> 00:41:32,922 [Amy] Nikki and Toni have a lot of work ahead of them, 817 00:41:32,924 --> 00:41:36,092 but I believe if they bring in a medium and a witch, 818 00:41:36,094 --> 00:41:38,995 they can move on the dead that are tormenting them. 819 00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:42,365 Once they're gone, they should be able to heal their relationship 820 00:41:42,367 --> 00:41:45,268 and find the peace they've been desperately looking for.