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[suspenseful music playing]
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[Amy] There's this huge
vortex. It's this dark hole.
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This area is not healthy
for the living.
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I'm afraid that
she's gonna end up dead.
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I was at the top of the stairs and
I felt two hands just pushed me.
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You're in a lot of trouble here.
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Like feeling somebody
getting smacked on the face.
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[intense music playing]
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It could become more
and more violent,
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so that could cause death.
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Can I have a minute?
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[Amy]
It's always been negative.
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This is bad.
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It wants the person dead.
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My name is Amy Allen.
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[groans]
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I see dead people.
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I saw a lean creature.
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I speak to dead people
and they speak to me.
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This person
feels like a monster.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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They are sucking
the life out of these people.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve DiSchiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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So how many bodies
are we talking?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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But Steve and I never speak.
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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- Hmm, I'm not gonna like this.
- [groans]
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When we uncover
if it's safe for you to stay.
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I'm sorry.
I need to take a break.
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Or time to get out.
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It wants inside the house
because it wants to kill you.
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[gasps]
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[intense music playing]
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[Steve] So I'm in Wilmington, North
Carolina on the Cape Fear coast.
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Seems to be a good name
for this place
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because I got a call
from a couple Deb and Elaine,
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they are scared
out of their minds.
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Whatever the entity or
entities that are in our house
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are affecting our health
and our safety.
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It's like attacking us.
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So, if you would please help us,
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we have nowhere else to turn.
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[Steve] Deb says Amy and I
are her last chance
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and if we can't help, it won't
be long before she's a widow.
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[Amy] There's this huge vortex.
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Like it's this dark hole.
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This vortex messes
with the living.
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So the people can get lost in
what's real and what's manipulation.
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[intense music playing]
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This area is not healthy
for the living.
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Agh!
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[Steve] Deb, I know
when we spoke on the phone,
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you were desperate
and needed our help,
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but I got tight driving up
here. This place is beautiful.
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Yeah, I mean,
your home is just...
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Should be
in a magazine somewhere.
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What's it like living
in this house?
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We are just living through
a hell at this point
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and I'm so worried
about my wife being hurt.
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I'm afraid that
she's going to end up dead.
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Why do you think whatever's
here is going after Elaine?
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Do you have any thoughts
on that?
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I think
she's more open to the...
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the spiritual world.
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[Steve] On the phone you said Elaine
used to be a cop and a firefighter, right?
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[Deb] Yes.
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Okay. So is it just the two
of you living here?
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[Deb] Yes. It's just us.
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[Steve] Well, you look happy
in this photo.
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[Deb] When we're away
from the house, we are.
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[Steve] Okay, how long
have you guys been together?
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We've been together
almost 20 years.
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So how long have you
lived here, though?
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Almost five years.
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Almost five years, okay.
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So, Deb, I'm obviously going to do my
investigation on the home and the property.
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Is there anything that you could tell
me that could help my investigation?
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Well, the previous owners
that we bought the home from
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had a son
who was murdered here in town.
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He lived here
for a period of time.
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Okay, I'm going to look
into that obviously.
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All right, so Deb, do me a favor
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and give me a list of what
you guys are going through.
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[Deb] Well, we hear voices.
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We have seen shadow figures.
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It's become more aggressive
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and I really feel that it's
trying to kill Elaine at this point.
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It's depleting her life force.
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It's definitely affecting her
and her health.
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All right, so what do you mean when
you say, it's sucking out her life force?
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About three o'clock
in the afternoon it's...
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She's just exhausted
and she has to go lay down.
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Is what's going on here
causing you guys to fight at all?
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Elaine says that, for sure.
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So what makes you think
that's from the paranormal,
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it's just not like couple stuff?
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When we leave and go on
vacation it's completely different.
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- Yeah.
- [Deb] Um...
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That's why I'm saying, I think we're
at least influenced by something here.
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Your wife is basically
being destroyed slowly.
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And you're standing here
watching it happen.
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It's devastating.
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So we got to fix this.
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[Amy] I felt something
following me
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that didn't feel like a person.
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It just felt like
a really dark energy.
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It's malevolent.
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You do feel watched
and stalked by it.
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This dark energy is showing
itself to me as a spider.
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And I think it can suck all of
the life force out of everything.
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And I was looking around
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and it was like,
everything was dying.
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[intense music playing]
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This dark nasty presence
can affect the living by,
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I believe, like basically
draining their, their life energy
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so that can make them very ill.
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Also, kind of
intrusive thoughts.
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Regret, remorse, depression,
over and over and over again.
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And I hear somebody being, like,
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"Yeah, it's always been dark
there. It's always been negative."
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[Steve]
What's going on in here?
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I see shadow figures
out of the corner of my eyes.
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Is it always down here?
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Usually in the entryway
and stairway.
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- [Steve] Okay, so it's not in just one spot.
- Right.
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Could it be coming from outside?
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Because, you know,
the road's out here,
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is it possible that's happening?
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No, we don't have that much
traffic and we shut the blinds.
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[Steve] Okay. Anything else?
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Things are moving on their own.
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Okay. So give me an example.
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A lot of times I'll come down
in the morning
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and my pictures are moved.
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[Steve]
Is anything else moving?
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Um, we have like little rocks
that you can hear being picked up
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and put back on a mirror.
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So those are moving and we'll
get up and they'll be moved.
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What room is this in?
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In the master bedroom.
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- Sounds like whatever's here doesn't want you to sleep.
- Right.
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Okay.
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[Amy] This energy
takes a toll on the living.
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Physical and a mental and
an emotional obviously toll.
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The people who are living in it
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are feeling the sense
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that this isn't quite right.
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There's something wrong
with their reality.
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What I want to understand is
this dark thing,
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that I know is like stalkerish
and watches.
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There's annoyance with this.
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[intense music playing]
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Okay, the clothes are all purty
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and you come back
and it's like, you know,
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this one's here like that,
you know.
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And you're like, "No, no, no.
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I definitely had that pillow
over there." [bleep]
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"All right. All right."
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And it's like constantly
[bleep] doing [bleep] like that.
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And this thing likes this,
chaos.
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[Steve]
So what's going on in here?
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I felt the bed shake.
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Can you show me how hard
it was when it happened?
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Sure. It was like this.
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- Okay, so substantial.
- Yeah.
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Anything else physical
like that happen?
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I've been touched.
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How?
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Across my jaw
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and one time while I was
standing in this bedroom,
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I felt like a force, full,
straight down my spine.
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How did you react?
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I like pulled my clothes off
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because I thought something
was crawling on me.
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- You mean, like, like a spider or something?
- [Deb] Yeah.
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- [Steve] What else?
- I've been choked.
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Choked, explain what happened.
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- I was sound asleep.
- Okay.
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And woken about 3:15
in the morning
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and it felt like there was
actually something in my throat
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and I was having
a hard time breathing.
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- So it had freaked you out a little bit.
- [Deb] Yeah.
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I was quite scared.
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I know you're worried
about your wife,
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but you're having some stuff
happen to you.
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Yeah.
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Hopefully we can get something
figured out and how to fix it.
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[Amy] The dark energy, that
spider looking thing, it's everywhere.
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That thing is freaking them
the [bleep] out.
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Someone is being touched
and, and messed with here.
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I see a woman.
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She's not seeing anything
just feeling the hands
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and like grabbed, like here,
I'm thinking.
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And she's like yanking back.
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They're scared, they're scared
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and they're having
all of those experiences.
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Like, feeling somebody
getting smacked on the face.
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This is bad.
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[intense music playing]
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[Steve] So Elaine, Deb told me that she
thinks whatever here is trying to kill you.
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I mean... And you
agree with that?
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I do.
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So talking to Deb
and I asked her, you know,
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how your relationship's going
because of all this?
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She said you guys are, kind of,
fighting a little bit more than normal.
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A little bit?
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[laughs]
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I'm ready to take a break and
just drive on out the driveway.
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- And you don't think it's just relationship stuff?
- [Elaine] I mean...
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No.
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No, we've been together
for almost 19 years.
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So, obviously,
you've had experiences.
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Can you tell me
about some of them?
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I've seen all kinds of shadow
figures all over the house.
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Describe what you're seeing.
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Very tall shadow figures,
maybe seven foot tall.
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- Really?
- Yes.
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I saw one in my bedroom
and it had legs
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and it moved
from the closet area
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and it moved through the bed
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and just disappeared
through the wall.
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So, Elaine,
when I was talking to Deb,
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she told me that you were a
firefighter and a cop as well.
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I got to assume like me,
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I've seen the worst of the
worst and I have PTSD from it.
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Yes.
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Do you think that whatever's
happening to you...
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here with the paranormal,
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the PTSD is getting triggered?
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- No.
- [Steve] You don't?
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No, I... I can tell the
difference between the two.
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Okay.
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I don't have an explanation
for what's happening.
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It sounds like it's trying
to drive you guys crazy.
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It is. I feel like I'm
going crazy with it.
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[Amy] So somebody
has seen a figure
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and it is this dark energy.
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So, they've seen a form.
That's interesting.
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This living person was raped.
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They're actually kind of
creating a person
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out of this energy
and that's pretty interesting.
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So this person's created
a shadow figure
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that looks like their attacker.
249
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[cameraman] What is
it that they're seeing?
250
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This is a young male.
251
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Short hair.
252
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Like a professional aura.
253
00:13:05,819 --> 00:13:10,355
Like, someone who's
like nine to five, clean cut.
254
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They've actually given it,
like, a existence in like a shape.
255
00:13:17,230 --> 00:13:21,166
It's become
kind of physical in a way.
256
00:13:24,036 --> 00:13:27,138
Obviously, they must have
some kind of ability.
257
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Okay, shadow figures.
We got that.
258
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What else are you experiencing?
259
00:13:30,977 --> 00:13:34,979
I was sitting watching TV
one night on the couch
260
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and I felt a really bad
burning sensation on my back.
261
00:13:38,185 --> 00:13:39,918
Okay, what was it?
262
00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,219
Well, I asked Deb to look at it
263
00:13:41,221 --> 00:13:43,588
because I thought
that something had bit me
264
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and she lifted my shirt up...
265
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and this is what...
266
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she saw.
267
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[Steve] And this just
came out of nowhere?
268
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Out of nowhere
and it hurt for a long time.
269
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All right, anything else?
270
00:14:00,607 --> 00:14:02,740
I was at the top of the stairs
271
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and I felt two hands on my back,
272
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and it was a pretty hard shove.
273
00:14:07,948 --> 00:14:13,051
I reached around and grabbed
the handrail with both hands
274
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and if I hadn't have, I would have
went straight down the... the stairs.
275
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[Steve] Obviously,
if you would have fell,
276
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you could have broke your neck.
277
00:14:21,928 --> 00:14:24,863
- It would have busted my head wide open.
- [Steve] Right.
278
00:14:24,865 --> 00:14:26,965
You know, as tough as you are,
you know, your background,
279
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I'm surprised you didn't run
the hell out of here,
280
00:14:28,935 --> 00:14:30,034
because I think
I might have ran out.
281
00:14:30,036 --> 00:14:31,102
[sighs]
282
00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:32,971
Okay, anything else?
283
00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:34,572
Since we've moved in
284
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my health has completely
went downhill.
285
00:14:38,111 --> 00:14:41,045
You know, when I spoke to
Deb earlier, she mentioned that.
286
00:14:41,047 --> 00:14:43,014
Um, explain to me
what's going on with you?
287
00:14:43,016 --> 00:14:46,251
- I stay tired all the time.
- Sounds like depression.
288
00:14:46,253 --> 00:14:49,787
I know and I'm not...
I don't feel depressed.
289
00:14:49,789 --> 00:14:51,189
[Steve] Do you feel abused?
290
00:14:51,191 --> 00:14:54,225
I do by something
that I cannot see.
291
00:14:54,227 --> 00:14:55,793
You're in a lot of trouble here.
292
00:14:55,795 --> 00:14:57,095
This has got to stop.
293
00:14:58,898 --> 00:15:01,065
[intense music playing]
294
00:15:01,067 --> 00:15:02,734
[cameraman] What kind
of effect would all this have
295
00:15:02,736 --> 00:15:05,203
on somebody that spends
a lot of time here?
296
00:15:05,205 --> 00:15:09,574
This dark energy,
I think being exposed to it
297
00:15:09,576 --> 00:15:14,112
could make you sick,
uh, because it killed.
298
00:15:14,114 --> 00:15:17,048
It was, it was killing, just
sucking the life out of everything.
299
00:15:17,050 --> 00:15:19,050
[intense music playing]
300
00:15:23,088 --> 00:15:26,457
It's sucking the life
out of people,
301
00:15:26,459 --> 00:15:31,930
feeling off constantly.
Never feeling quite right.
302
00:15:31,932 --> 00:15:33,564
Um...
303
00:15:33,566 --> 00:15:38,503
Questioning your sanity.
Uh, questioning your reality.
304
00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:47,779
Obviously there's physical
interaction with this thing as well,
305
00:15:47,781 --> 00:15:50,848
which is dangerous
and traumatizing.
306
00:15:50,850 --> 00:15:55,920
I think that they could get
very ill, if not, even die from it.
307
00:15:55,922 --> 00:15:57,989
[intense music playing]
308
00:16:09,168 --> 00:16:12,437
[Steve] So, one of the first
calls I made when I got to town
309
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was the local professor
who's helped me out before.
310
00:16:14,975 --> 00:16:18,676
She tells me one of the earliest
owners of Deb and Elaine's property
311
00:16:18,678 --> 00:16:22,513
had nothing but heartbreak from
the second he set foot on the land.
312
00:16:29,922 --> 00:16:32,557
Well, professor, it's good to see you
again and thanks for helping me out.
313
00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:34,092
No problem.
314
00:16:34,094 --> 00:16:37,695
So who was this early owner with
all the bad luck you told me about?
315
00:16:37,697 --> 00:16:38,930
Well, his name
was Luke Hill McClammy
316
00:16:38,932 --> 00:16:41,232
and he was born
in Wilmington in 1848.
317
00:16:41,234 --> 00:16:44,535
When does Luke wind up
buying my client's property?
318
00:16:44,537 --> 00:16:47,438
Luke bought it in 1874
and he was just married.
319
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,942
He and his wife Mary wanted
to start a family at that point.
320
00:16:50,944 --> 00:16:53,945
So you told me he had nothing but heartbreak
when he got onto my client's property.
321
00:16:53,947 --> 00:16:55,179
What happened?
322
00:16:55,181 --> 00:16:57,248
Five years after he'd bought
the property,
323
00:16:57,250 --> 00:17:00,952
his first son, Worth McClammy,
died in infancy.
324
00:17:00,954 --> 00:17:02,587
- Okay.
- [Angela] And then,
325
00:17:02,589 --> 00:17:04,555
in 1880, there were two deaths.
326
00:17:04,557 --> 00:17:06,290
One was his daughter, Francis,
327
00:17:06,292 --> 00:17:10,228
and also Luke's twin brother,
David, died of unknown causes.
328
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:11,696
Oh! Jeez!
329
00:17:11,698 --> 00:17:15,433
- This guy can't catch a break.
- No, he really can't.
330
00:17:15,435 --> 00:17:20,071
Luke's last remaining child,
Julian, died at the age of 22.
331
00:17:20,073 --> 00:17:21,839
Do things ever get better
for this guy?
332
00:17:21,841 --> 00:17:23,941
Only for about 12 years.
333
00:17:23,943 --> 00:17:28,046
And then in 1909,
Luke's beloved wife, Mary,
334
00:17:28,048 --> 00:17:31,249
was outside in the morning feeding
the chickens as she usually did
335
00:17:31,251 --> 00:17:33,618
and she dropped over dead
from a heart attack.
336
00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,721
[Steve] I mean, is anybody
else alive in this family?
337
00:17:36,723 --> 00:17:38,089
[Angela]
No, he's totally alone
338
00:17:38,091 --> 00:17:42,760
and he decides having nobody
left to give the property to,
339
00:17:42,762 --> 00:17:44,495
in 1913, he sold half of it.
340
00:17:44,497 --> 00:17:46,364
He sold the other half in 1918
341
00:17:46,366 --> 00:17:52,070
and then exactly two months to the day after
he signed the deed selling his property,
342
00:17:52,072 --> 00:17:53,137
Luke himself died.
343
00:17:53,139 --> 00:17:54,372
[Steve scoffs]
344
00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,441
[Steve] All right.
345
00:17:57,743 --> 00:18:00,578
Does that say the cause
of death as exhaustion?
346
00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:02,280
[Angela] It does,
exhaustion and anemia.
347
00:18:02,282 --> 00:18:04,982
He certainly, probably died
from a broken heart as well.
348
00:18:04,984 --> 00:18:06,984
Wow, what a shame!
349
00:18:12,057 --> 00:18:19,263
[Amy] This huge vortex, I believe
is somehow collecting dead people.
350
00:18:21,567 --> 00:18:25,703
This area has a lot
of random dead people
351
00:18:25,705 --> 00:18:29,941
from I believe
quite a long period of time.
352
00:18:29,943 --> 00:18:34,712
And so, I do think
it's a possibility that
353
00:18:34,714 --> 00:18:39,250
there may be, you know,
dead coming and going.
354
00:18:43,589 --> 00:18:45,156
[Steve] So far,
I've got clients terrified
355
00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:47,825
that the dead are trying
to rip them apart
356
00:18:47,827 --> 00:18:50,361
on a property
where one of the first owners
357
00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:52,029
suffered nothing
but heartbreak and tragedy.
358
00:18:52,031 --> 00:18:53,231
[elevator dings]
359
00:18:53,233 --> 00:18:55,566
But I got to see
if there's anything else.
360
00:18:57,269 --> 00:18:58,870
Searching through the archives,
361
00:18:58,872 --> 00:19:02,974
I found a freak storm that destroyed
dozens of boats back in the late 1800s.
362
00:19:04,810 --> 00:19:09,347
But one boat just vanished into
thin air, that is until a few years ago.
363
00:19:12,117 --> 00:19:14,318
I reached out
to a local historian who says,
364
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,255
I won't believe what happened
to the wreckage from that ship.
365
00:19:24,062 --> 00:19:26,831
[Steve] So, Robert, I appreciate
you helping me out with this case.
366
00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:28,332
So what can you tell me
about this ship?
367
00:19:28,334 --> 00:19:29,867
[Robert]
The John S. Lee,
368
00:19:29,869 --> 00:19:31,936
it was originally built in 1859
369
00:19:31,938 --> 00:19:33,905
and it probably looked
something about like that.
370
00:19:33,907 --> 00:19:35,006
[Steve] This is not the ship,
371
00:19:35,008 --> 00:19:36,874
- but this is what it would've looked like.
- Exactly.
372
00:19:36,876 --> 00:19:40,244
All right, so we know the ship went down,
when did it leave port for the last time?
373
00:19:40,246 --> 00:19:43,848
It left Wilmington
on April 11th 1877.
374
00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:46,117
It was headed to Venezuela
with a cargo of lumber.
375
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,586
What was the crew like?
How many people on board?
376
00:19:48,588 --> 00:19:52,757
On board a typical schooner, you
would have had a crew of six to eight men.
377
00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:54,759
All right, so what went wrong?
378
00:19:54,761 --> 00:19:56,961
Well, two days into the trip,
379
00:19:56,963 --> 00:19:58,930
a massive storm
hits the North Carolina coast.
380
00:19:58,932 --> 00:20:00,097
It was huge.
381
00:20:00,099 --> 00:20:04,001
We're talking torrential
rains, gale force winds.
382
00:20:04,003 --> 00:20:07,438
At least 32 vessels
were damaged or lost at sea
383
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,006
including the John S. Lee.
384
00:20:09,008 --> 00:20:11,876
I got to assume with that much
damage and all those ships
385
00:20:11,878 --> 00:20:13,511
some of this stuff
had to wash up on shore.
386
00:20:13,513 --> 00:20:16,914
Yeah, for weeks bodies
and wreckage were washing up.
387
00:20:16,916 --> 00:20:20,084
[Steve] I know from my research that
John S. Lee was found pretty recently.
388
00:20:20,086 --> 00:20:24,188
[Robert] Yeah, it was basically
lost to history until 2014.
389
00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:26,857
And then, remains
of a shipwreck were discovered
390
00:20:26,859 --> 00:20:29,026
on a place
called Figure Eight Island,
391
00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:31,095
about two miles
from your client's property.
392
00:20:31,097 --> 00:20:32,730
So, now you mentioned
on the phone
393
00:20:32,732 --> 00:20:36,567
I'd be really surprised as to what
was done with the ship's wreckage.
394
00:20:36,569 --> 00:20:40,004
Yeah, a local couple decided
to build a house on Figure Eight
395
00:20:40,006 --> 00:20:43,341
and they use part of it
in the design.
396
00:20:43,343 --> 00:20:46,110
[Steve] So part of this house is actual
wood from our ship that went down?
397
00:20:46,112 --> 00:20:47,812
[Robert]
That's right.
398
00:20:47,814 --> 00:20:50,948
I mean, kind of creepy using
wood from a ship that went down.
399
00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:52,283
I got my reservations
about that.
400
00:20:52,285 --> 00:20:53,951
Yeah, I agree.
401
00:20:53,953 --> 00:20:55,920
One good thing is that now we
know what happened to that ship.
402
00:20:55,922 --> 00:20:57,421
True.
403
00:20:59,591 --> 00:21:04,362
[Amy] I look down and I
see two inches of muck.
404
00:21:04,364 --> 00:21:10,167
I'm walking through and I realized
that it's decomposed bodies.
405
00:21:10,869 --> 00:21:13,337
Yeah, there's a lot of bodies.
406
00:21:13,339 --> 00:21:18,409
There's like pieces,
like, pieces of people.
407
00:21:21,146 --> 00:21:25,916
I don't feel good down here.
I feel very sick down here.
408
00:21:25,918 --> 00:21:28,019
I don't know
if it's all these...
409
00:21:29,054 --> 00:21:32,223
pieces of people
are like, crying.
410
00:21:32,225 --> 00:21:34,759
They're like, asking for help,
they're crying,
411
00:21:34,761 --> 00:21:37,328
they're screaming,
they're tormented.
412
00:21:39,031 --> 00:21:41,999
What the [bleep]
with these dead people?
413
00:21:42,001 --> 00:21:44,035
They all feel like lost.
414
00:21:44,037 --> 00:21:47,071
I think they're all stuck
in this vortex.
415
00:21:47,073 --> 00:21:48,005
- Okay.
- [Amy] And it did...
416
00:21:48,007 --> 00:21:50,174
It took in these dead people.
417
00:21:50,176 --> 00:21:53,144
I mean, they've said
it's been here forever, so...
418
00:21:53,146 --> 00:21:55,146
It's always been that way,
they said.
419
00:21:55,148 --> 00:21:56,113
It's always been that way.
420
00:21:56,115 --> 00:21:57,882
There's too many.
421
00:21:57,884 --> 00:21:59,850
What does that mean?
How many roughly?
422
00:21:59,852 --> 00:22:02,253
[scoffs] Hundreds.
423
00:22:08,026 --> 00:22:09,994
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424
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425
00:22:11,264 --> 00:22:13,064
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426
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427
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428
00:22:27,012 --> 00:22:31,015
[Steve] Deb mentioned that the son
of a previous owner was murdered.
429
00:22:31,017 --> 00:22:33,918
I can't tell you how often
clients get this kind of stuff wrong,
430
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,987
but I did some digging
and it's true.
431
00:22:36,989 --> 00:22:39,123
I'm heading back to the house
to meet a local television reporter
432
00:22:39,125 --> 00:22:42,526
who says it all started
with a bizarre love triangle.
433
00:22:47,032 --> 00:22:49,967
[Steve] So, Ashlea, thanks for
looking into this for me. I appreciate it.
434
00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:52,002
Before we get into the details
of the homicide,
435
00:22:52,004 --> 00:22:53,938
what do we know
about the victim?
436
00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:56,340
The victim in this case
was a 32-year-old man
437
00:22:56,342 --> 00:22:58,042
by the name
of Martin Yakimovich.
438
00:22:58,044 --> 00:22:59,377
Okay.
439
00:22:59,379 --> 00:23:03,581
In 1993, his father and stepmother
moved into your client's house.
440
00:23:03,583 --> 00:23:06,217
We think that this was
actually his room at the time.
441
00:23:06,219 --> 00:23:07,685
When was the murder?
442
00:23:07,687 --> 00:23:10,321
The murder was in 2014.
443
00:23:10,323 --> 00:23:12,923
So I got to assume he
wasn't living here at the time
444
00:23:12,925 --> 00:23:14,892
because he was an adult
when he got murdered.
445
00:23:14,894 --> 00:23:17,128
Yes, he was living about
ten miles from here
446
00:23:17,130 --> 00:23:19,196
with his girlfriend
at the time, Molly.
447
00:23:19,198 --> 00:23:21,665
Anything about their
relationship that we know of?
448
00:23:21,667 --> 00:23:23,834
We do know that Martin
traveled a lot for work
449
00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:28,339
leaving Molly in their three-bedroom
home for stretches of time.
450
00:23:28,341 --> 00:23:30,274
Okay. All right.
So she's lonely.
451
00:23:30,809 --> 00:23:32,009
So what happens next?
452
00:23:32,011 --> 00:23:34,912
She is lonely and she meets
a teenager online,
453
00:23:34,914 --> 00:23:37,715
19-year-old Shelby Lentz,
454
00:23:37,717 --> 00:23:42,086
and then she asks Martin if
Shelby can move in with them.
455
00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:45,189
She was lonely,
Shelby needed a place to stay
456
00:23:45,191 --> 00:23:47,658
and they had the extra space
at their house
457
00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:51,195
and in a fateful decision,
Martin agrees.
458
00:23:51,197 --> 00:23:54,198
I'm assuming, at one point, they
probably start sleeping together?
459
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,302
Correct. Martin comes home
from a trip in December of 2013
460
00:23:58,304 --> 00:24:00,805
and finds that Shelby and Molly
461
00:24:00,807 --> 00:24:02,673
were sleeping together
behind his back.
462
00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:06,110
He is furious
and he kicks Shelby out.
463
00:24:06,112 --> 00:24:07,912
Does he break up
with her at this point?
464
00:24:07,914 --> 00:24:09,046
No, they stay together.
465
00:24:09,048 --> 00:24:10,247
So what happens next?
466
00:24:10,249 --> 00:24:12,683
On January 3rd 2014,
467
00:24:12,685 --> 00:24:14,952
Martin comes home
from another work trip
468
00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:18,789
and finds that Shelby moved
in again while he was away.
469
00:24:18,791 --> 00:24:21,025
- There is a huge argument.
- Okay.
470
00:24:21,027 --> 00:24:23,594
And that's when Shelby
comes up right behind Molly
471
00:24:23,596 --> 00:24:25,963
and stabs Martin in the chest.
472
00:24:26,865 --> 00:24:28,799
All right,
so he's got a chest wound now.
473
00:24:28,801 --> 00:24:29,967
How bad was it?
474
00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:31,902
[Ashley] The knife
pierced his heart.
475
00:24:31,904 --> 00:24:33,604
[Steve] Okay.
So he bleeds out.
476
00:24:33,606 --> 00:24:35,072
So what happens with our perp?
477
00:24:35,074 --> 00:24:37,808
Shelby turned himself
into police two days later.
478
00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:40,444
But he claimed this whole
thing was self-defense.
479
00:24:40,446 --> 00:24:42,112
In a jailhouse interview
with us,
480
00:24:42,114 --> 00:24:45,850
he said that Molly
and Martin were fighting.
481
00:24:45,852 --> 00:24:48,085
That Martin
was the aggressor here.
482
00:24:48,087 --> 00:24:51,021
But as it turns out, Molly
did not back up that story
483
00:24:51,023 --> 00:24:54,792
and the autopsy report shows
that there are no indications
484
00:24:54,794 --> 00:24:57,027
that Martin was the aggressor
in this case.
485
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:59,997
Do they charge him and does
he go to trial? What happens?
486
00:24:59,999 --> 00:25:03,667
A year later, Shelby confesses
in court to second-degree murder
487
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:07,605
and he's sentenced
to 18 to 23 years in prison.
488
00:25:07,607 --> 00:25:10,074
[Steve] Eighteen to 23 years,
I mean that's a plea deal.
489
00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:13,577
[Ashley] Yeah, Martin's father
felt that he got off easy.
490
00:25:13,579 --> 00:25:17,281
He turned to him during sentencing
and said, "God will deal with you."
491
00:25:17,283 --> 00:25:20,417
A year later, he moved out
of your client's house.
492
00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:28,325
[Amy] I'm seeing like, uh,
male late teens, early 20s...
493
00:25:29,594 --> 00:25:31,328
murdered in this area.
494
00:25:32,998 --> 00:25:37,167
He was thin, probably about
five-foot-seven to five nine.
495
00:25:37,169 --> 00:25:42,606
He had frosted dyed blonde
hair, like a skater boy haircut.
496
00:25:42,608 --> 00:25:45,976
This was in anywhere
from 2000 until now.
497
00:25:45,978 --> 00:25:49,313
He was beaten and left for dead.
498
00:25:49,315 --> 00:25:52,716
It was night time when this
happened and he's angry.
499
00:25:52,718 --> 00:25:54,285
This is bad.
500
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:06,297
[Amy] I saw several disturbing
things on my walk, but two stood out.
501
00:26:06,299 --> 00:26:10,067
First, the many pieces of
dead people in the basement.
502
00:26:10,069 --> 00:26:12,236
So there's like a wall.
503
00:26:12,238 --> 00:26:16,273
In that I could see
these little pockets,
504
00:26:16,275 --> 00:26:18,742
and in those little pockets
505
00:26:18,744 --> 00:26:21,078
were like, these little bubbles,
506
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,615
and inside the bubbles
were all different people.
507
00:26:24,617 --> 00:26:26,917
Next, I describe
the shadow figure
508
00:26:26,919 --> 00:26:29,954
who looks like the person
who attacked a living woman.
509
00:26:29,956 --> 00:26:34,925
Both of his, um, hands
were on his knees
510
00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:40,331
and he's completely straight and
he's looking at the person in the bed.
511
00:26:41,967 --> 00:26:45,469
And so, his hair is a little
bit shorter and neater.
512
00:26:52,243 --> 00:26:54,011
Amy, is this what you saw?
513
00:26:54,813 --> 00:26:56,447
Yes, that's what I saw.
514
00:27:16,768 --> 00:27:19,903
[Steve] Now that Amy and I
have completed our investigations,
515
00:27:19,905 --> 00:27:22,206
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
516
00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:24,308
and our clients
for the first time.
517
00:27:24,843 --> 00:27:27,111
So, guys, this is Amy.
518
00:27:27,113 --> 00:27:29,580
She's going to be doing the
reveal from a separate room,
519
00:27:29,582 --> 00:27:31,215
so she could focus on your case
520
00:27:31,217 --> 00:27:33,083
and the dead
without any distractions.
521
00:27:33,085 --> 00:27:35,386
Amy meet Deb and Elaine.
522
00:27:35,388 --> 00:27:38,122
This was supposed to be
their forever home
523
00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:41,859
and as you can see,
it's absolutely beautiful.
524
00:27:41,861 --> 00:27:44,995
But since they moved in,
their life has gone to hell.
525
00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:47,097
It's so bad...
526
00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:50,167
Deb thinks that whatever's
here is trying to kill Elaine.
527
00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:52,136
We're their last hope
528
00:27:52,138 --> 00:27:56,006
and these guys are praying
you could find some way
529
00:27:56,008 --> 00:27:58,042
to make this place
safe for them.
530
00:27:58,044 --> 00:28:03,147
So unless Amy's got some
questions, she'll tell us about her walk.
531
00:28:06,017 --> 00:28:09,253
[Amy] Well, one thing
that I got when I first arrived
532
00:28:09,255 --> 00:28:13,924
was a violent death
and the victim was a male.
533
00:28:13,926 --> 00:28:15,292
He was murdered.
534
00:28:15,294 --> 00:28:19,329
He was on the younger side. I
would have put him in his 20s.
535
00:28:19,331 --> 00:28:22,132
What I picked up
about how he died was that
536
00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:25,069
he was beaten and left for dead.
537
00:28:25,071 --> 00:28:28,072
I did see this happening
at night
538
00:28:28,074 --> 00:28:34,178
and I felt that this was relatively
recent, uh, maybe in the 2000s.
539
00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:36,613
You looking at me, like, you're
thinking what I'm thinking?
540
00:28:36,615 --> 00:28:37,981
[both] Mm-hmm.
541
00:28:37,983 --> 00:28:41,018
[Steve] Deb, you gave me a
tip that actually checked out.
542
00:28:41,020 --> 00:28:43,120
I think the victim of this
murder you're talking about
543
00:28:43,122 --> 00:28:46,557
was a guy
named Martin Yakamovich.
544
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:48,325
His dad owned this house
545
00:28:48,327 --> 00:28:52,062
and when he was a kid, we believed
that this was the room he stayed in.
546
00:28:52,064 --> 00:28:53,764
But by the time of the murder,
547
00:28:53,766 --> 00:28:57,067
his dad still lived here but
Martin was ten miles away,
548
00:28:57,836 --> 00:28:59,203
living with
his girlfriend, Molly.
549
00:28:59,205 --> 00:29:00,637
Now, he traveled a lot for work
550
00:29:00,639 --> 00:29:02,339
and Molly got lonely
551
00:29:02,341 --> 00:29:06,310
and started a relationship with a
19-year-old kid named Shelby Lentz.
552
00:29:06,911 --> 00:29:09,079
So in December of 2013,
553
00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:11,949
Martin caught them in bed
together and threw Shelby out.
554
00:29:11,951 --> 00:29:16,053
But, just a few weeks later,
in January of 2014,
555
00:29:16,055 --> 00:29:19,590
Martin came home one night and
found them two in the bed again.
556
00:29:19,991 --> 00:29:21,825
Oh, my God!
557
00:29:21,827 --> 00:29:24,962
[Steve] They had a huge
fight. Things got really heated.
558
00:29:24,964 --> 00:29:26,263
So about 11 o'clock that night,
559
00:29:26,265 --> 00:29:27,498
Shelby grabs a knife
560
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:30,534
and plunges it right into
Martin's heart and pierces it.
561
00:29:30,536 --> 00:29:32,569
Oh, damn!
562
00:29:32,571 --> 00:29:35,572
Shelby pleaded out
to second-degree murder
563
00:29:35,574 --> 00:29:38,809
and he got an 18
to 23-year sentence.
564
00:29:38,811 --> 00:29:40,310
I got his mug shot here.
565
00:29:40,979 --> 00:29:43,580
[Amy] He looks like
a little child.
566
00:29:43,582 --> 00:29:45,682
[Steve] He was 19
when he did the murder.
567
00:29:45,684 --> 00:29:47,951
So the father was so upset
about the whole thing,
568
00:29:47,953 --> 00:29:50,120
he actually moved
out of here a year later.
569
00:29:50,122 --> 00:29:52,790
How long did they live here?
570
00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:54,358
- Over 20 years.
- [Steve] Yeah, they were here long.
571
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,026
- [Amy] Really?
- [Steve] Yeah.
572
00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:57,194
[Amy]
Okay, interesting.
573
00:29:57,196 --> 00:29:59,429
Well, that makes me
even more concerned.
574
00:30:02,867 --> 00:30:04,902
[Steve]
So what else you got, Amy.
575
00:30:04,904 --> 00:30:07,971
[Amy] The land your house
sits on has me very worried
576
00:30:07,973 --> 00:30:11,041
and that's because
there's a vortex.
577
00:30:11,043 --> 00:30:17,714
It somehow is like
collecting bodies.
578
00:30:17,716 --> 00:30:22,085
I was walking and I could see
like, two inches of this muck
579
00:30:22,087 --> 00:30:26,156
and then I realized it was
like these decomposing bodies.
580
00:30:26,158 --> 00:30:30,194
And I was like, "This
is like just very bizarre."
581
00:30:31,062 --> 00:30:34,164
So I came across a ton
of deaths in my research.
582
00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:36,133
But for now I'm just going
to tell you about one of them.
583
00:30:36,135 --> 00:30:39,937
It happened in April of 1877
584
00:30:39,939 --> 00:30:44,975
when a freak storm came
and caught everybody off guard.
585
00:30:44,977 --> 00:30:49,813
So now there was 32 boats that
were lost or damaged during the storm.
586
00:30:49,815 --> 00:30:52,583
So now bodies wind up
washing up on shore for weeks
587
00:30:52,585 --> 00:30:54,284
less than a mile from here.
588
00:30:54,286 --> 00:30:57,821
One ship the John S. Lee
was never recovered.
589
00:30:57,823 --> 00:31:00,290
That was until 2014,
590
00:31:00,292 --> 00:31:02,926
when a local couple
found the debris nearby
591
00:31:02,928 --> 00:31:05,062
and used it
to decorate the house
592
00:31:05,064 --> 00:31:08,899
that they were building
less than two miles from here.
593
00:31:08,901 --> 00:31:10,467
It was all wood that was
recovered from this boat.
594
00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:13,003
- Oh, my gosh!
- Wow!
595
00:31:13,005 --> 00:31:15,839
Is that a bad idea, to kind of use the
wood from a boat where people died?
596
00:31:15,841 --> 00:31:18,208
Yeah, that wouldn't be
a great idea.
597
00:31:19,911 --> 00:31:22,179
When I came down
to the basement,
598
00:31:22,181 --> 00:31:26,116
I saw people from all
different time periods.
599
00:31:26,118 --> 00:31:29,853
I feel very sick down here.
600
00:31:29,855 --> 00:31:36,126
I don't know if it's all these
pieces of people are like crying,
601
00:31:36,128 --> 00:31:38,562
they're like asking for help,
they're crying,
602
00:31:38,564 --> 00:31:41,064
they're screaming,
they're tormented.
603
00:31:42,634 --> 00:31:44,601
You okay?
604
00:31:44,603 --> 00:31:47,604
You got a pretty strong
reaction to what she was saying.
605
00:31:47,606 --> 00:31:50,340
That's where I spend all
my time, is in the basement.
606
00:31:50,342 --> 00:31:53,477
I did have a sketch done
of what I saw down there.
607
00:32:00,151 --> 00:32:01,351
Kind of creepy.
608
00:32:07,959 --> 00:32:09,326
That looks evil.
609
00:32:10,361 --> 00:32:11,962
That looks awful.
610
00:32:12,964 --> 00:32:15,232
And they're trapped there?
611
00:32:16,567 --> 00:32:19,236
It makes me not want
to go back down there.
612
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,540
[Steve] It's a pretty
interesting walk already.
613
00:32:23,542 --> 00:32:25,776
What else did you come across?
614
00:32:25,778 --> 00:32:30,414
[Amy] Now here's like, the really
serious issue for you guys in particular.
615
00:32:30,416 --> 00:32:31,882
When I was coming up
to the house
616
00:32:31,884 --> 00:32:35,018
there was this dark energy.
617
00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:38,188
It drains the life force
out of things.
618
00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:41,124
Like, when I was walking up,
I literally...
619
00:32:41,126 --> 00:32:43,126
It's showing me, like,
it's coming up
620
00:32:43,128 --> 00:32:44,895
and the grass
is dying behind it,
621
00:32:44,897 --> 00:32:48,165
because it's absorbing
that energy.
622
00:32:48,167 --> 00:32:51,969
So that goes, if you have
humans, really not good.
623
00:32:53,104 --> 00:32:56,273
Because it does drain you guys,
624
00:32:56,275 --> 00:32:58,175
which can lead to illness.
625
00:32:58,177 --> 00:33:01,278
I can sleep all night long,
626
00:33:01,779 --> 00:33:03,981
get up, and two hours later
627
00:33:03,983 --> 00:33:09,052
I'm ready to go back to bed
and sleep all day long.
628
00:33:09,887 --> 00:33:13,090
One of the things
that I saw upstairs,
629
00:33:13,092 --> 00:33:16,093
there's a bed
with a bunch of pillows on it
630
00:33:16,095 --> 00:33:18,562
and a blanket
at the end of the bed.
631
00:33:18,564 --> 00:33:20,330
Okay, so you make it.
It's all nice.
632
00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:21,898
You leave. You come back.
633
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:24,067
Now, the blanket's still folded,
634
00:33:24,069 --> 00:33:27,204
but it's turned down
and the pillows moved.
635
00:33:27,206 --> 00:33:29,339
So I think that over time,
636
00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:32,642
living here would make you
feel like you're losing your mind.
637
00:33:32,644 --> 00:33:34,578
Things move. Um...
638
00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:38,882
Everything from certain
pictures, canvases in our house,
639
00:33:38,884 --> 00:33:43,153
the cabinets will open,
we'll hear things move.
640
00:33:43,155 --> 00:33:46,456
It's gotten to the point where I
felt like I was losing my mind.
641
00:33:48,059 --> 00:33:50,727
One of the things that I got
642
00:33:50,729 --> 00:33:55,165
that this energy does
to people is that
643
00:33:55,167 --> 00:33:58,035
it can give people
intrusive thoughts.
644
00:33:58,037 --> 00:34:02,072
It tries to draw out of people
this kind of remorse
645
00:34:02,074 --> 00:34:04,241
and depression and regret.
646
00:34:04,243 --> 00:34:08,879
Over time, I believe
this could really take
647
00:34:08,881 --> 00:34:13,250
a very serious mental
and emotional toll on someone.
648
00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:15,786
Well, you guys mentioned
that this,
649
00:34:15,788 --> 00:34:17,320
whatever's been going on here,
650
00:34:17,322 --> 00:34:18,989
it's been taking a toll
on your relationship
651
00:34:18,991 --> 00:34:20,090
and your marriage, right?
652
00:34:20,124 --> 00:34:22,092
It's been a struggle.
653
00:34:22,094 --> 00:34:25,462
Yeah, it's like it's pitting
us against each other.
654
00:34:25,464 --> 00:34:29,166
Well, you guys are functioning
in like, negative hell.
655
00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:31,234
[exhales]
656
00:34:31,236 --> 00:34:36,873
So, when I went upstairs, I
went into the bedroom on the right.
657
00:34:36,875 --> 00:34:37,908
That's their bedroom.
658
00:34:37,910 --> 00:34:44,047
I sensed that the living
in there had abilities.
659
00:34:44,049 --> 00:34:45,982
[Steve] So, you think
it's both of them.
660
00:34:45,984 --> 00:34:48,618
I honestly, I think it's Elaine.
661
00:34:50,588 --> 00:34:54,257
Yeah, I think she's always
been more open and sensitive.
662
00:34:54,792 --> 00:34:56,359
Because of your abilities,
663
00:34:56,361 --> 00:34:59,996
somehow you are giving a form
and a shape,
664
00:34:59,998 --> 00:35:02,165
uh, to this dark energy.
665
00:35:03,167 --> 00:35:08,572
So, the way that I perceived
this energy
666
00:35:08,574 --> 00:35:12,976
was this huge, like,
black spider.
667
00:35:12,978 --> 00:35:16,213
But you're seeing it
as a person.
668
00:35:16,215 --> 00:35:21,585
A kind of clean cut,
kind of younger male.
669
00:35:21,587 --> 00:35:26,957
He was sitting on the steps
near the bed, like, staring.
670
00:35:26,959 --> 00:35:32,596
I felt that this person had
some kind of role in your life
671
00:35:32,598 --> 00:35:35,165
that was pretty significant
672
00:35:35,167 --> 00:35:40,604
and there's some kind of
trauma with him from your past.
673
00:35:40,606 --> 00:35:44,207
And I saw a living woman
being held down
674
00:35:44,209 --> 00:35:47,611
and attacked by this male,
675
00:35:47,613 --> 00:35:50,947
and I did have a sketch
done of what I saw.
676
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,619
It's a chandelier, all right,
677
00:35:56,854 --> 00:35:58,421
but you're not going to like
what you see next to it.
678
00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:00,524
[gasps]
679
00:36:04,862 --> 00:36:07,564
[Amy] I would have put him
in the 80s,
680
00:36:07,566 --> 00:36:12,302
but I did feel like that there
was sexual trauma in the past.
681
00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:25,248
- Can I have a minute?
- Yeah, of course.
682
00:36:34,258 --> 00:36:36,259
She figured you would pick up
on it.
683
00:36:36,661 --> 00:36:37,827
But it's not something
684
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:41,331
that she really wants
to discuss, obviously.
685
00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:43,833
So, let me just check on her.
686
00:36:43,835 --> 00:36:44,601
Okay.
687
00:36:57,081 --> 00:36:58,982
- I'm sorry.
- [Steve] No.
688
00:37:01,285 --> 00:37:03,019
- Listen, you just relax.
- [Elaine sighs]
689
00:37:05,156 --> 00:37:07,157
- I'm sorry.
- Don't be.
690
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,159
You hit the nail on the head.
691
00:37:09,161 --> 00:37:10,594
I'm sorry.
692
00:37:11,329 --> 00:37:13,129
Don't apologize. [scoffs]
693
00:37:14,465 --> 00:37:16,032
[sighs]
694
00:37:18,336 --> 00:37:23,273
So then I saw this thing getting really
physical and I saw some touching.
695
00:37:23,275 --> 00:37:24,975
There was a female.
696
00:37:24,977 --> 00:37:27,944
I felt like getting smacked
on my face,
697
00:37:27,946 --> 00:37:30,046
getting grabbed by the shoulder.
698
00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:32,749
We were just watching TV
699
00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:36,119
and I felt a really bad
burning sensation on my back.
700
00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:38,922
I asked Deb to look at my back
701
00:37:38,924 --> 00:37:40,890
and she was like, "Oh my God!"
702
00:37:40,892 --> 00:37:45,161
And she snapped a picture
and that's what she saw.
703
00:37:47,131 --> 00:37:48,698
- The well?
- [Steve] Yeah, the well.
704
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:50,000
[Amy] Boy!
705
00:37:50,002 --> 00:37:52,202
[Steve] Amy, Deb's been
touched a few times.
706
00:37:52,204 --> 00:37:54,704
So, Deb, do me a favor
and tell Amy about,
707
00:37:54,706 --> 00:37:57,274
what you described
as like, like a choking?
708
00:37:57,276 --> 00:38:02,545
I was awakened at like three something
in the morning and I woke up choking.
709
00:38:02,547 --> 00:38:05,148
It wasn't like pressure
on my neck.
710
00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:07,917
It was actually
inside my throat.
711
00:38:07,919 --> 00:38:10,120
Tell Amy about you getting
pushed on the stairs.
712
00:38:10,821 --> 00:38:13,323
[Elaine]
I was going down the stairs
713
00:38:13,325 --> 00:38:18,995
and I got to about the third
step and I felt two huge hands.
714
00:38:18,997 --> 00:38:21,598
It pushed me
and I caught myself.
715
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,199
Mm-hmm.
716
00:38:23,201 --> 00:38:27,237
And if I hadn't have, I would
have fell completely down the steps.
717
00:38:28,005 --> 00:38:31,274
My worry is that
718
00:38:31,276 --> 00:38:33,109
it could become more
and more violent
719
00:38:33,111 --> 00:38:35,612
as far as attacks are concerned.
720
00:38:35,614 --> 00:38:40,517
So that, obviously,
could potentially cause death.
721
00:38:43,654 --> 00:38:46,589
I'm actually, kind of surprised
722
00:38:46,591 --> 00:38:52,128
that Elaine didn't pick up on it
when we were looking at this house.
723
00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:54,531
What Deb wants, Deb gets.
724
00:38:55,232 --> 00:38:56,466
I really would have thought
725
00:38:56,567 --> 00:38:59,936
that Elaine would have
picked up on the land being bad.
726
00:38:59,938 --> 00:39:02,272
And so, this is kind
of heartbreaking.
727
00:39:02,274 --> 00:39:04,374
Well, I'm not Amy Allen.
728
00:39:05,609 --> 00:39:08,144
And I know a lot of sensitives
including myself
729
00:39:08,146 --> 00:39:11,147
who have been duped and
moved into really [bleep] up places,
730
00:39:11,149 --> 00:39:14,984
so it happens to all of us.
731
00:39:31,168 --> 00:39:33,136
[Steve] I can see the
stunned look on your faces,
732
00:39:33,138 --> 00:39:36,139
and honestly,
I feel the same way.
733
00:39:37,208 --> 00:39:38,274
So now is the big question.
734
00:39:38,709 --> 00:39:41,111
Is there any way to make
this house safe for you guys,
735
00:39:41,113 --> 00:39:43,980
living happily ever after,
or not?
736
00:39:43,982 --> 00:39:46,049
For that answer I'm going
to turn it over to Amy.
737
00:39:49,186 --> 00:39:51,855
[Amy] This is
a very beautiful home.
738
00:39:51,857 --> 00:39:55,592
But I think you guys know
what I'm going to say.
739
00:39:58,195 --> 00:40:00,864
When I saw what I saw here,
740
00:40:00,866 --> 00:40:04,134
I knew that nobody should
have ever built, built here.
741
00:40:04,136 --> 00:40:06,169
No nobody should live here.
742
00:40:06,171 --> 00:40:09,572
This should have just
been left alone.
743
00:40:10,441 --> 00:40:14,377
I think it's not healthy
for anybody...
744
00:40:17,181 --> 00:40:18,615
to stay here.
745
00:40:23,053 --> 00:40:25,388
Unfortunately, I know that's not
the answer you guys wanted to hear.
746
00:40:26,957 --> 00:40:28,091
It's just a house.
747
00:40:30,094 --> 00:40:31,094
[Steve] What about you?
748
00:40:34,064 --> 00:40:36,099
It's not worth staying here
749
00:40:36,101 --> 00:40:42,305
and having to continually worry
and to give up our happiness.
750
00:40:42,773 --> 00:40:45,909
When they move to a new location
751
00:40:45,911 --> 00:40:48,311
that doesn't have any issues,
will she start to feel better?
752
00:40:48,313 --> 00:40:50,280
Will their relationship
get better?
753
00:40:50,282 --> 00:40:52,582
Yeah, I mean absolutely.
754
00:40:55,019 --> 00:40:56,352
Where's the "For Sale" sign?
755
00:40:58,355 --> 00:41:00,990
You guys are young. You have
a long life ahead of you just...
756
00:41:01,959 --> 00:41:03,259
try and make the best of it.
757
00:41:05,029 --> 00:41:07,597
What we've built here,
we can do again.
758
00:41:08,699 --> 00:41:11,334
And I just have to look at it
that way.
759
00:41:15,906 --> 00:41:18,641
[Amy] I feel really bad
for Deb and Elaine,
760
00:41:18,643 --> 00:41:21,678
but in a situation
as dangerous as this,
761
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,847
I think it's best they leave
their home.
762
00:41:23,849 --> 00:41:25,882
Hopefully, they take my advice,
763
00:41:25,884 --> 00:41:28,251
leave this dark negative
energy behind,
764
00:41:28,253 --> 00:41:31,087
and get a fresh start
somewhere new.
765
00:41:34,758 --> 00:41:36,125
Hi, Steve and Amy.
766
00:41:36,127 --> 00:41:39,295
We wanted to give you an update
at what's going on in our house.
767
00:41:39,297 --> 00:41:43,933
The activity has continued
and actually has increased.
768
00:41:43,935 --> 00:41:45,134
Because of Amy's findings,
769
00:41:45,136 --> 00:41:48,705
we've decided to take
her advice and sell the house
770
00:41:48,707 --> 00:41:52,375
and move on to hopefully
a better place.
771
00:41:52,377 --> 00:41:56,346
So, thank you so much
for coming and investigating
772
00:41:56,348 --> 00:42:00,149
and letting us know
what was happening.
773
00:42:00,151 --> 00:42:02,485
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