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[Amy] I think whoever's here
is, like, frozen with terror.
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They are making them
do bad things.
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How ya holdin' up?
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When your kids live
imprisoned in their rooms...
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What kind of life
are you giving them?
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I heard this scratching
on the very top of my door.
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I see doors opening.
Knobs turning.
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And it was just weeks
of mass slaughter.
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- But he wants to torture her.
- Why? She's 10 years old.
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I wanna hurt 'em.
Nobody messes with my kids.
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[Amy] Person's crying
up a storm.
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[Amy's voice distorted]
Crying up a storm.
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They want the person dead.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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I see dead people.
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I saw a winged creature.
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I speak to dead people.
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And they speak to me.
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This person feels
like a monster.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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They are sucking the life
out of these people.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve DiSchiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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So how many bodies we talkin'?
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And I know every person,
every house, has secrets.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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But Steve and I never speak.
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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Oh, you're not gonna like this.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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I'm sorry. I need
to take a break.
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Or time to get out.
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It wants inside the house.
'Cause it wants to kill you.
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[Steve] I'm in the beach town
of Wilmington, North Carolina.
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We got a desperate call
from a woman named Sarah.
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She terrified and says whatever's in
the house is going after her little girls.
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Our daughters are no longer
safe in the house.
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They're both incredibly scared.
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And my husband and I don't
know how to protect them.
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She told me the activity
is turning violent.
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And she adamant if Amy
and I can't find answers,
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it's just a matter of time before
someone gets seriously hurt.
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[Amy] So this is not good.
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Something very bad
happened in this area.
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How it went down was not good.
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I feel this heavy loss.
And then this anger.
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The feeling here is there's
this impending doom.
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Like something horrible
is going to, like, happen.
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[Steve] So, Sarah,
I'm glad I'm here.
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'Cause, um, when we spoke, you
sounded pretty upset about what's going on.
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What-- What's happening?
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Things have escalated to a point where
nobody feels safe in the house anymore.
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And I feel as though my
children are being targeted.
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It's terrifying.
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How ya holdin' up?
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It's hard.
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It's hard because you...
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As a parent, that's,
like, your one job.
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Yeah.
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And when your kids come to you,
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and you can't fix it,
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and your kids live
imprisoned in their rooms,
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what kind of life
are you giving them?
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So Sarah, who all lives
in the house with you guys?
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- There are four of us in the house.
- Okay.
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So that's you obviously.
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This is my husband, Jonathan.
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That is my daughter, Mia.
She's 10.
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And that's Karyll. She's 15.
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How long have you guys
owned the place?
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We have been here for 13 years.
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- Was it always this bad that you needed to call us?
- No.
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Definitely within the last
two years, it's escalated.
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Drastically. To the point
where we don't know what to do.
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All right.
So Sarah, do me a favor.
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And give me a list of what the hell
you guys are going through here.
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- So we hear voices.
- Okay.
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[Sarah] Things move
on their own.
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We experience mood changes.
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We have seen shadow figures.
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And, most recently,
it's gotten physical.
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What kind of mood changes
are we talking about?
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Since living in this house. I
would say, the last few years.
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I've noticed that I can go
from zero to 100 in anger.
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For no reason.
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- So is that in your personality?
- No.
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What do you think whatever's
here wants from you guys?
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I think it's trying to make
me feel like I'm crazy.
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I think it wants to tear
my family apart.
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And I think that it wants
something to do with my children.
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What in the [beep]
is that damn thing?
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So there's something. And now
I'm seeing it, like, it's on the roof.
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But it's not just here. It does
go to other houses in the area.
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So I'm seeing it jumping
from rooftop to rooftop.
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- [cameraman] What is this thing?
- [Amy] Big.
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The thing's like
a good eight feet.
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Big. Massive.
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But smoky.
I mean, it is smoky.
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But it's massive.
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Is that, like, a dead person?
Like what the [beep]?
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All right. Kitchen obviously.
So, what's going on in here?
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So I was actually
in the kitchen.
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And these cabinet doors
open suddenly.
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And everything flew out
onto the floor.
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Okay.
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That sounds like something
out of a movie.
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- They don't open that easy.
- No.
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And they were wide open.
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Okay.
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What else?
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So we have flickering lights
in the hallway here.
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And in the bathroom.
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Doesn't mean it's paranormal. Did
you have an electrician look at it?
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My husband's actually
an electrician.
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- Oh. Okay. And he couldn't find something wrong?
- No.
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Anything else?
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What I find more... The
most serious is I have heard
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something trying to get
into my daughters room.
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It was scratching at the door. And
then I heard the doorknob moving.
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So what'd ya do?
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I didn't do anything. I was
frozen in fear in my bed.
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- Who's room was that in?
- Mia's.
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I'm now concerned that it's
gonna get physical with my kids.
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Well, that's what we don't want.
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Eight-foot tall
black mass thing.
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Comes down through the closets.
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I literally see the door
opening and closing.
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And they're perceiving
something coming out of it.
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And it can affect
its physical surroundings.
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Kind of like poltergeist activity.
But it's not really poltergeist.
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Lights flickering
and [beep] like that.
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I'm hearing banging on the wall.
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Hearing movement. Okay, okay.
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Doorknobs moving.
Doors moving.
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What the [beep]?
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So, Jon, I was talking
to your wife Sarah earlier.
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And she told me what was
going on in the house.
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And some insane stuff.
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Do you agree there's a problem?
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Absolutely, I mean, I've had
some physical things happen to me.
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Had a lot of experiences
I can't explain.
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Okay. Let's talk about your
experiences. What can you tell me?
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So I would say the most common one
that I notice is that I will hear noises.
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Or if I'm in taking a shower it will sound
like somebody's coming through our back door.
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The dogs will actually react
as if somebody has come in.
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Nobody's there.
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- And nothing's missing when you come back out?
- Absolutely no.
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So it doesn't look like you've been
burglarized and somebody left?
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- Not at all.
- Okay.
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All right. So you got
that going on. What else?
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Uh, there's a tall shadow figure that
goes by, right by this window over here.
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And as you can see. The window
is every bit of 10 foot off the ground.
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Right. Yes.
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So there's no shadow
that can come that high.
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And I will look out the window
and there is no cars.
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Is this something that you can
see through? Or is it pretty solid?
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It's solid dark.
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So, Jon, now that we're here. What
are you hoping we can get done for you?
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I'm hoping there is something
we can do to fight back.
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And I am definitely concerned about, you
know, the welfare of my youngest daughters
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and my wife of course.
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[Amy] Mm.
Person's crying up a storm.
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Crying up a storm.
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Think this is a female?
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Freakin' out seeing this thing.
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That door's open.
[Beep] opens doors man.
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Whatever the [beep] this is
I see door's opening.
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Knobs turning.
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What are the living seeing
within the closets?
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Uh, like closet doors opening.
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And, like, male looking,
you know, eight-foot tall thing.
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Black mass.
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And this is still
the same thing we're...
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- Running on the roofs and banging on the wall? Okay.
- Mm. Mm.
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Huh?
Are there two on the roof?
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So now I'm wondering, like,
are there actually two
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dead men that are doing this?
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And they're doing
some [beep] around here.
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So I think whoever's here
is, like, frozen with terror.
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[Steve] Karyll, it's good
to sit down with you and talk.
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Talked to Mom, talked to Dad.
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And they're both really concerned
about the safety of you and your sister.
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- Mm-hmm.
- Do you think they're over-reacting at all?
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I don't think they're
over-reacting.
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There's definitely
something paranormal here.
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So what kind of experiences
can you tell me about?
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Um, when I was home alone one time,
I started hearing tapping on my door.
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And it went from tapping,
to knocking, to banging.
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What did you do? I mean I would have
freaked out if I knew I was home alone.
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I freaked out. It went on for
probably about five minutes.
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And then after I went and opened
my door and there was nothing there.
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So is there anything else
you can tell me about?
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I have a really overwhelming
feeling that I'm being watched a lot.
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Where do you feel it?
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I feel it every time
I go into the bathroom.
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I'm so scared to go in there.
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I always check the towel drawer.
And I check behind the shower.
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Just like I feel, like, there someone,
like, standing there watching me.
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- Okay.
- It's like I don't know if they're gonna jump out at me.
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All right, so what else?
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One night, I saw a shadow figure
peering in at me through my bedroom door.
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Did you think it was somebody
like your Mom or Dad?
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I knew it wasn't.
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How come?
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I can always hear when they open their door
and come out in the middle of the night.
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And I can hear their footsteps
walking down the hall.
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How about physical attacks?
Any that you can remember?
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- No.
- What are your thoughts on what's here?
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What it wants?
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I think it wants to see us.
And possible harm us.
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The tall shadow things
like to come into this room.
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I do see some
physical interaction.
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So I think whoever's here
is, is getting attacked.
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Like physically.
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Like, I feel like this
person's been held down.
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Wrists. Feeling like
a male's hands.
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Did something to their leg.
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I think their right leg.
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But it hurt her leg really bad.
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Things is, I don't know if the living
person even realizes it's happening.
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[cameraman] Do you know why
these shadow things are doing this?
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The only thing I heard was,
"Because we can."
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[Steve] So Mia, I was talking
to Mom today.
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She tells me there's a lot of
scary stuff going on in the house.
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And she's worried about you.
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Yes, there's a lot
of stuff that's happened.
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It's definitely getting worse.
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So can you tell me about some
of the experiences you have?
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I heard this scratching on
the very top of my door.
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I thought it was the cats.
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But it was at the very top of
my door. And they couldn't reach.
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And then I heard, like,
a knocking on my door.
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- That would scare me.
- I was definitely scared.
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So anything else Mia?
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A few months ago I saw a tall dark
shadow figure standing in my living room.
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I actually drew a sketch of it.
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You drew this?
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Well, that's pretty creepy.
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It was very tall.
I remember that.
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Mom mentioned to me that, um,
she gets angry for no reason real fast.
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Does anything like that
happen to you?
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Yes. There's sometimes that
I just feel angry for no reason.
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I'll just be angry out of
nowhere and I don't know why.
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You think it's the, the paranormal
stuff that's going on here?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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[Amy] What?
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Those tall shadow things
come in this room too.
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I'm hearing a lot of yelling
and stuff in this room.
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The living here are hearing, like, male
voices saying really awful things to them.
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Like I'm hearing,
"You [beep] bitch."
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I'm wondering if they're,
like, jumping this person.
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Making them do bad things.
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And what kind of experience
is it for them?
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Depends.
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Uh, it could be that
they're blacked out.
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And they have no control
over what they're doing.
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And they're making this person
do, or say, or act abnormally.
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Uh, so it's harming them more mentally and
psychologically. Well, and physically really.
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Than just beating on them.
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Like that's, like,
their torture.
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[Steve] I always start my investigations
by calling local law enforcement.
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Turns out, an 18-year-old
girl was murdered
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just down the street from
Sarah and Jonathan's house.
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It's a pretty recent case. So the
cops didn't want to talk to me about it.
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But, I found a true crime author
who said this brutal homicide
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happened because
of a deadly obsession.
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So Rick, I appreciate you meeting with
me and helping me out with this case.
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So before we get into what happened.
What'd you find out about the victim?
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Our victim's name
is Jessica Faulkner.
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She's an 18-year-old college sophomore
here at our local college, UNC Wilmington.
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She lives in a dorm actually only about
3000 feet from your clients residence.
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Okay. So Rick, do we know
anything about the guy who killed her?
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Yeah, 21-year-old Curtis Dixon.
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He was actually a college
student also there.
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At UNC Wilmington, he lived on
the same floor as her in the dorm.
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Okay. So now the two of them are
living on the same floor in this dorm.
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What happens next?
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They actually became friends.
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But, this soon became
an obsession for, uh, Dixon.
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He started taking
the same classes as her.
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Started making romantic
advances towards her.
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Uh, even though, you know, she made
it pretty clear that she had a boyfriend.
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And was not interested.
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Okay, we're sitting here because
she was murdered. So what happened?
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So, May 4th, 2004.
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Jessica got a text from Curtis.
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Asking her to come back to his room.
Because he said he had a gift for her.
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So, what happened?
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He tells her to turn her back
on him. So he can surprise her.
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When she does, strangles her
down to the ground.
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Proceeds to rape her. Then tie
her to his bed and goes to sleep.
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- And he goes to sleep?
- Just goes to sleep.
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- This guy's a real sociopath, right?
- Yeah, absolutely.
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All right. So we know he's been
arrested. How'd that all happen?
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He called her father.
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And then turned himself into
the police. So, here's his mugshot.
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That's unbelievable. I've never
heard of something like this.
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Calls the father and says,
I just killed your daughter.
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- Can you imagine getting that phone call?
- I can't.
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As a dad, I just cannot
imagine having that phone call.
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Mm. All right.
So, did it go to trial?
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I mean, did he
cop out a plea, or?
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Actually, no. He actually
never made it to his trial.
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On December 10th, 2004 he was able to
break away from his correctional officer.
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Ran up the stairs of a cell block, he
got to the third deck and jumped off.
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Landed head first down on the
bottom. And died the next day.
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Took the coward's way out.
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Yes, Steve. By taking his own
life, he did manage to escape justice.
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[Amy] I think those tall shadow
figures were bad people in life.
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I feel like they're criminals.
Like, they're criminals.
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These guys are way more recent.
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I wouldn't go earlier than the
'90s... 1990s with these guys.
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One of these dead males is big.
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Like, I think this guy
was, like, a big guy in life.
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Some kind of body builder or
something. You know, he was built.
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And I'd put him in his
30s maybe, late 30s.
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The other one I get younger.
Much younger. Early 20s maybe.
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They have this, like, vibe about
them. That they think they escaped.
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So, like, I'm like, y'all know
you're, you know, dead?
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Maybe they think they
escaped through death.
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I'm wondering if, like, these
are people who, like, actually
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did, like, escape jail
or something.
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That their ego is way too big.
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Or maybe they [beep] did something
and got killed before they went to jail.
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So they feel free. Like, there's gotta
be something behind their ego on this.
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[Steve] So I'm heading over
to meet a local professor.
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She tells me Sarah and Jonathan's
house only had one previous owner.
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And his life was cut short
way too soon.
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So, Professor thanks for meeting with
me and helping me out with this case.
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Before we get to the death, do you
know anything about the previous owners?
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00:18:43,623 --> 00:18:45,990
They were Anthony
and Eugenia Mazur.
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And they bought
the house in 1956.
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- Okay.
- This will be photos of them.
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[Steve] Okay. And are they
the first people to live there?
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[Angie] They were. And they
lived there for about 20 years.
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Okay. So now it's 1956.
They're living in my client's house.
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Is it just the two of them?
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For a while, yeah, and
then they have a daughter.
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So they all lived in the house
that your clients lived in.
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And Anthony worked in the oil
industry here in Wilmington.
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Okay. So, let's move on.
What about the death?
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In April of 1977, he was
diagnosed with meningitis.
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It's an infection that attacks
the brain and the spinal cord.
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So, as you can imagine, he's got
pain. He's got dizziness, nausea,
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- a lot of suffering.
- Yeah.
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The condition eventually got
a lot worse.
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And so the family had
to rush him to the hospital.
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And once he was there,
he died six days later.
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And I've got
the death certificate.
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Wow. He was only 56 huh?
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00:19:35,141 --> 00:19:37,808
- Yeah. It was devastating for Eugenia.
- What happens with her?
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Well, she wants to stay there
as long as she can.
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And so she gets help
from her daughter, Peggy.
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- Okay.
- So they're there until 2008.
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And then the house was sold.
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-To my clients.
-That's right. To your clients Sarah and Jon.
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And then, Eugenia will live for
another five years here in Wilmington.
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And she dies at the age of 89.
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00:19:53,692 --> 00:19:55,126
Okay.
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Quick image of a, I believe a
male laying dead on the floor.
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The guy's wearing just, like,
a wife beater and boxers.
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And he's kind of,
uh, heaver set.
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He's probably, like, in his,
I'd put him in his 50s.
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I see, like, brown hair.
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I think he just dropped dead. You know, so
like, it could be aneurysm, heart attack.
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What you feel is anger.
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So far I've got clients terrified something
evil is going after their daughters.
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Right near the scene of a brutal
murder of an 18-year-old girl.
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00:21:04,264 --> 00:21:06,264
But, I wanna see
if there's anything else.
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Searching through the archives,
I found out that in the late 1800s
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the streets of Wilmington were
turned into a bloody war zone.
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I gotta admit, I've never heard of the
Wilmington Massacre until just now.
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But I tracked down a local historian
who actually made a documentary about it.
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You had armed bands of Whites
who were roaming the city.
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Indiscriminately killing Black
people. It was a slaughter.
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[Steve] And apparently, it was the
only successful coup d'etat in US history.
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[Steve] So Chris, thanks for
helping me out and meeting with me.
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I appreciate that.
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00:21:46,606 --> 00:21:47,905
So I've done a lot of history
in North Carolina.
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But I never knew about
this part of American history.
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So set the scene for me.
What was this all about?
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Well, after the Civil War, Wilmington
became, like, a mecca for African Americans.
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00:21:58,818 --> 00:22:01,786
So you had several lawyers
here. Um, Black doctors.
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00:22:01,788 --> 00:22:03,754
You had a Black-owned newspaper.
392
00:22:03,756 --> 00:22:06,991
And so Wilmington became
really what the new South
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could have been
after the Civil War.
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00:22:08,728 --> 00:22:10,461
So, what went wrong?
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Well, what went wrong was that you
had a White supremacy movement.
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And you had a group of nine
wealthy businessmen in Wilmington
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who called themselves
The Secret Nine.
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And what they wanted to do
was really bring Wilmington,
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and the whole state
of North Carolina,
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back to that era of White
supremacy prior to the Civil War.
401
00:22:30,516 --> 00:22:34,785
All right, so we got these secret
nine white guys. What'd they do?
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00:22:34,787 --> 00:22:39,590
Well, the first thing they wanted to do was
spread a lot of misinformation and lies.
403
00:22:39,592 --> 00:22:41,459
So they used a lot
of political cartoons
404
00:22:41,461 --> 00:22:46,564
that made African Americans look like beasts
and monsters. Of attacking white women.
405
00:22:46,566 --> 00:22:49,600
The whole meaning behind it was
that if we let these African Americans
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00:22:49,602 --> 00:22:53,404
continue to be in politics
and continue to get power,
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00:22:53,406 --> 00:22:55,873
they're gonna come after your daughters,
they're gonna come after your wives.
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00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:57,675
So they preyed on their fears.
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00:22:57,677 --> 00:22:58,809
- Right. Right.
- Basically.
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00:22:58,811 --> 00:23:01,679
All right. So, we got
the propaganda going on.
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How's it go from that
to a massacre?
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Well, on November 10th, 1898,
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you had about a couple of
hundred, um, White citizens.
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00:23:09,789 --> 00:23:14,658
And they wanted to first, eliminate
the Black press in Wilmington,
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00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:16,394
which was
The Wilmington Daily Record,
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00:23:16,396 --> 00:23:18,863
owned by
African American, Alex Manly.
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00:23:18,865 --> 00:23:24,034
This mob, which grown to
about 2000 people, burnt it down.
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Stood in front of it.
Took pictures.
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00:23:26,939 --> 00:23:28,339
- This is it here?
- Yeah.
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00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:30,441
Holy [beep] look at these guys.
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00:23:30,842 --> 00:23:32,476
What happens next?
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Then they broke off in patrols
throughout the city.
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Killing African Americans.
Men, women, and children.
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00:23:38,551 --> 00:23:42,052
And it was just weeks
of mass slaughter.
425
00:23:42,054 --> 00:23:44,455
Here's an article
about the massacre.
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00:23:44,457 --> 00:23:47,057
So how many people got killed?
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I would say the range of
African Americans that were killed
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ranged from about 30 to 300.
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00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:54,865
Okay. So we really don't know
what the exact number is?
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00:23:54,867 --> 00:23:56,400
- No.
- Okay.
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00:23:56,402 --> 00:23:58,269
What happens after
the killing stops?
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They decide to take over
the government.
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00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:02,640
They removed the mayor,
removed the alderman.
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00:24:02,642 --> 00:24:04,842
And they were taken out
forcibly, I'm assuming.
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00:24:04,844 --> 00:24:09,280
Yeah by force. By the gun. Either
you do this, or we're gonna kill ya.
436
00:24:09,981 --> 00:24:11,749
Does anybody get arrested
for what happened?
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00:24:11,751 --> 00:24:14,819
No. Nothing happens to anyone.
438
00:24:14,821 --> 00:24:17,688
This is a real stain
on the Wilmington history.
439
00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:21,959
Yeah, it's been a stain in this
city for, for quite some time.
440
00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:24,328
And the city is still dealing
with that still today.
441
00:24:25,931 --> 00:24:28,399
So weird.
442
00:24:28,401 --> 00:24:31,202
I'm getting that feeling
of impending doom again.
443
00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:38,042
You know I have the impression
of a house.
444
00:24:39,177 --> 00:24:44,482
But it's like two stories. White.
Older style looking house.
445
00:24:44,484 --> 00:24:45,749
[cameraman] Any idea
when this was?
446
00:24:45,751 --> 00:24:49,987
I wanna say it's, like,
1850s the earliest.
447
00:24:49,989 --> 00:24:53,657
Clearly got 1875.
I clearly got 1895.
448
00:24:53,692 --> 00:24:56,560
Uh, as very specific dates.
449
00:24:56,562 --> 00:25:01,932
And I did hear many people
marching in the distance.
450
00:25:02,667 --> 00:25:06,570
This impending doom
is associated with
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00:25:06,572 --> 00:25:12,176
whatever the [beep] went on
with the disposal of that house.
452
00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:16,280
There seem to be some kind
of, like, big thing that went down.
453
00:25:16,282 --> 00:25:18,382
And then the loss of the house.
454
00:25:18,384 --> 00:25:20,651
There's something
disturbing about it.
455
00:25:20,653 --> 00:25:21,852
It's sad.
456
00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:24,088
So what kind of effect
would this have on people?
457
00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:27,691
I believe that they would feel
extremely stressed out.
458
00:25:27,693 --> 00:25:32,263
They feel like they're gonna
lose their home. Or their land.
459
00:25:33,965 --> 00:25:37,001
This doom is gonna happen
and they're gonna lose everything.
460
00:25:37,003 --> 00:25:40,037
Like, it's always kind
of like right there.
461
00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:44,408
It's so heavy
on their shoulders.
462
00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:47,311
And it's coming out in anger.
463
00:25:54,352 --> 00:25:57,488
I saw several disturbing
things on my walk.
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00:25:57,490 --> 00:26:03,127
But the tall shadow figure jumping a living
girl in her bedroom concerns me the most.
465
00:26:03,129 --> 00:26:06,764
She's in the bed
and she's on her left side.
466
00:26:06,766 --> 00:26:09,633
This guy is by the bed.
467
00:26:09,635 --> 00:26:12,836
Probably about seven feet tall.
468
00:26:12,838 --> 00:26:17,041
There's a lot of mist
surrounding his form.
469
00:26:18,743 --> 00:26:20,244
It's a lighter color.
470
00:26:24,816 --> 00:26:28,218
Amy, is this what you saw?
471
00:26:28,353 --> 00:26:30,354
Yes, that's what I saw.
472
00:26:50,742 --> 00:26:53,877
[Steve] Now that Amy and I
have completed our investigations,
473
00:26:53,879 --> 00:26:56,614
we're ready to reveal our
findings to each other.
474
00:26:56,616 --> 00:26:58,382
And our clients
for the first time.
475
00:26:58,817 --> 00:27:00,517
So guys, I'd like
you to meet Amy.
476
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:02,686
She's gonna be doing
the reveal from another room
477
00:27:02,688 --> 00:27:06,457
so she can concentrate on your case
and the dead without any distractions.
478
00:27:06,459 --> 00:27:08,592
Amy, this is Sarah
and her husband Jon.
479
00:27:08,594 --> 00:27:11,629
They live in this house
with their two daughters.
480
00:27:11,631 --> 00:27:16,467
This is Karyll over here,
who's 15.
481
00:27:16,469 --> 00:27:19,503
And this is Mia, here, who's 10.
482
00:27:19,505 --> 00:27:22,640
- Now, they've lived in this house for 13 years?
- Yes.
483
00:27:22,642 --> 00:27:25,542
But recently all hell's
broken lose here.
484
00:27:25,544 --> 00:27:29,813
Sarah says that whatever's
here is going after her girls.
485
00:27:29,815 --> 00:27:32,049
So unless Amy's got some
questions for you guys,
486
00:27:32,051 --> 00:27:34,051
uh, she'll tell us
about her walk.
487
00:27:36,721 --> 00:27:39,390
So when I first started my walk,
488
00:27:39,392 --> 00:27:41,925
I walked out into the back yard.
489
00:27:41,927 --> 00:27:44,762
I became extremely overwhelmed
490
00:27:44,764 --> 00:27:49,700
by a strong sense
of impending doom.
491
00:27:49,702 --> 00:27:55,239
And this is affecting actually
quite a large area.
492
00:27:55,241 --> 00:27:57,775
Uh, so not just your property.
493
00:27:57,777 --> 00:28:04,615
And it's so strong that I do feel
like it's influencing people here.
494
00:28:04,617 --> 00:28:08,886
Making them feel very
stressed out, very anxious.
495
00:28:08,888 --> 00:28:14,425
Being consistently exposed to that,
it's all turning into, like, this anger.
496
00:28:14,427 --> 00:28:17,327
I felt like it could
become abusive.
497
00:28:17,329 --> 00:28:20,798
Like somebody becoming,
like, lashing out.
498
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,669
I will experience anger that
literally just comes out of nowhere.
499
00:28:25,671 --> 00:28:28,005
And it's zero to 100.
500
00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:30,708
We will remove ourselves
from the immediate area,
501
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:34,912
and it seems like
it immediately de-escalates.
502
00:28:34,914 --> 00:28:37,581
So, you get any sense where
all this doom is coming from?
503
00:28:37,583 --> 00:28:38,782
Yes.
504
00:28:38,784 --> 00:28:41,652
There was a house
that use to be around here.
505
00:28:41,654 --> 00:28:44,722
Something really awful happened.
506
00:28:44,724 --> 00:28:47,891
Involving this house
and this land.
507
00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:51,995
And it was an event. And it
never should have happened.
508
00:28:51,997 --> 00:28:58,368
I got 1875 and 1895 were the
two years that were very specific.
509
00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:02,306
And I did hear men
marching in the distance.
510
00:29:02,308 --> 00:29:06,143
You said a few things that make me think
of a massacre that took place right here.
511
00:29:06,145 --> 00:29:11,415
In the late 1800s, Wilmington
was ground zero for the country's
512
00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:13,951
only successful coup.
513
00:29:13,953 --> 00:29:17,454
So at that time there was a lot of
prosperity for the Black community down here.
514
00:29:17,456 --> 00:29:19,123
Uh, and they did well.
515
00:29:19,924 --> 00:29:22,726
But there was a faction of
white men in town that had money
516
00:29:22,728 --> 00:29:24,995
that this didn't sit well with.
517
00:29:25,363 --> 00:29:27,731
And they called themselves
The Secret Nine.
518
00:29:27,733 --> 00:29:33,737
Now, Amy, you said 1895. But this
happened on November 10th, 1898.
519
00:29:33,739 --> 00:29:36,974
First a group of white
businessmen and veterans
520
00:29:36,976 --> 00:29:40,410
armed to the teeth marched to
the only Black newspaper in town.
521
00:29:40,412 --> 00:29:43,981
Um, they burned
the place to the ground.
522
00:29:43,983 --> 00:29:47,317
I have a photo of
the day this happened.
523
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:50,020
The crowd swelled to about 2000.
524
00:29:50,022 --> 00:29:54,024
They spread out all over town
killing black men, women, and children.
525
00:29:54,026 --> 00:29:55,659
[beeping]
526
00:29:55,661 --> 00:29:58,128
When all was said and done,
at the end of the day,
527
00:29:58,130 --> 00:30:02,232
between 30 and 300 black men
and women were killed.
528
00:30:02,234 --> 00:30:07,805
After that, this crowd of men, wind up
marching to the homes of city officials.
529
00:30:07,807 --> 00:30:11,575
And, basically forced them
to resign at gunpoint.
530
00:30:11,577 --> 00:30:14,511
And installed their
own new government.
531
00:30:14,513 --> 00:30:16,580
No one was ever
arrested and charged.
532
00:30:16,582 --> 00:30:20,517
Could this deadly coup be
what caused this feeling of doom?
533
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:25,289
More than likely, because
that did affect quite a large area.
534
00:30:27,525 --> 00:30:30,894
[Steve] Okay, so what else
happened on the walk?
535
00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:37,568
When I was outside, I saw two
8-foot tall, like, shadow figures.
536
00:30:37,570 --> 00:30:41,405
Then I realized that
it's two dead males.
537
00:30:41,407 --> 00:30:44,942
Initially, I saw them
up on the roof.
538
00:30:44,944 --> 00:30:47,277
And I saw them banging
on the wall,
539
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,713
I think near a window.
540
00:30:49,715 --> 00:30:51,782
So, as you're looking
at our fireplace,
541
00:30:51,784 --> 00:30:53,784
we have the two windows,
on either side.
542
00:30:53,786 --> 00:30:57,621
It's always the window to
the left, as you're looking at it.
543
00:30:57,623 --> 00:30:59,556
You always catch it
out of the corner of your eye,
544
00:30:59,558 --> 00:31:01,758
but when you try to focus,
it's gone.
545
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,596
I saw them entering your
house, through the closets.
546
00:31:05,598 --> 00:31:08,599
They can affect
their physical surroundings
547
00:31:08,601 --> 00:31:13,303
I saw lights going on and off
by themselves, or flickering,
548
00:31:13,305 --> 00:31:17,608
doorknobs turning and
doors opening and closing.
549
00:31:17,610 --> 00:31:24,147
Cabinet doors will fly open,
dishes will fly out of the cabinets.
550
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:28,919
I, myself, have heard the
doorknobs, the banging.
551
00:31:28,921 --> 00:31:32,356
And we've had issues
with the lights flickering.
552
00:31:33,391 --> 00:31:35,592
Tell Amy
about when you're home alone,
553
00:31:35,594 --> 00:31:37,394
but it sounds like someone's
walking in the house.
554
00:31:37,396 --> 00:31:40,530
Yeah. So, I mean,
it's only when I'm home alone.
555
00:31:40,532 --> 00:31:44,167
I'll hear what sounds like my
wife or kids coming in the back door
556
00:31:44,169 --> 00:31:46,370
and I just peek out and go,
"Yeah, nobody there. Okay."
557
00:31:46,372 --> 00:31:47,838
I just go back
to what I'm doing.
558
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,842
Tell Amy about the knocking
and banging on Karyll's door.
559
00:31:51,844 --> 00:31:56,914
It started off, she said, as almost like
a tapping, and then went to a knocking.
560
00:31:56,916 --> 00:31:58,515
And then to a banging noise.
561
00:31:58,517 --> 00:32:05,088
Mia has heard scratching on
her door and her doorknob moving.
562
00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:10,994
It's incredibly terrifying, because I could
hear my daughter's doorknob moving.
563
00:32:11,829 --> 00:32:15,365
And sometimes I'm so scared,
I can't get up and go check.
564
00:32:16,401 --> 00:32:18,368
[Steve] Is all of this coming
from these two dirtbags?
565
00:32:18,603 --> 00:32:19,436
No.
566
00:32:21,105 --> 00:32:23,540
It's mainly being caused
by the girls.
567
00:32:23,574 --> 00:32:25,175
Oh, God.
568
00:32:25,777 --> 00:32:31,648
They have abilities and so, there's a
lot of energy that's building with them.
569
00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:33,784
And so,
it's just kind of coming out.
570
00:32:33,786 --> 00:32:37,854
Lights going on and off,
banging, the tapping, all of that,
571
00:32:37,856 --> 00:32:42,292
uh, falls into poltergeist,
uh, phenomenon.
572
00:32:44,729 --> 00:32:47,564
[Steve] What kind of abilities
are we talking about?
573
00:32:47,566 --> 00:32:53,103
Mia, I believe her to be more
of a medium, physical medium.
574
00:32:54,672 --> 00:32:56,606
- A physical medium like yourself?
- [Amy] Yes.
575
00:32:56,608 --> 00:33:00,544
I think I felt like Karyll
was more empathic.
576
00:33:00,546 --> 00:33:04,414
Karyll's very surprising. I
would have not expected that.
577
00:33:04,416 --> 00:33:06,550
Um, we've always said her
like is rainbows and butterflies.
578
00:33:06,552 --> 00:33:08,518
Mia, I'm not surprised.
579
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,723
Always felt, from the day she was born,
that there was something special about her.
580
00:33:12,725 --> 00:33:16,026
So, when you hear about the
poltergeist stuff, does that scare you?
581
00:33:16,028 --> 00:33:21,431
It's concerning, but I'm far more
concerned about the two guys.
582
00:33:22,934 --> 00:33:23,834
- [Amy] Yeah.
- Any sense of who
583
00:33:23,901 --> 00:33:24,801
they might have been
when they were alive?
584
00:33:24,803 --> 00:33:27,037
What I got
was that they were criminals.
585
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,639
That they were alive
pretty recently.
586
00:33:29,641 --> 00:33:32,576
No further back than the 1990s.
587
00:33:32,578 --> 00:33:37,814
One is a pretty big dude,
very built.
588
00:33:37,816 --> 00:33:44,654
The other one, um, is smaller, like,
thinner and I would have put him in his 20s.
589
00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:45,588
I wasn't sure.
590
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:48,492
Like, I was like,
"Did they actually, like,
591
00:33:48,494 --> 00:33:52,529
escape jail? Were they ever in jail?
Did they die before they went to jail?"
592
00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:56,733
But, in their death,
they feel, like, free.
593
00:33:56,735 --> 00:33:59,870
In my investigation, I came
across someone who killed himself,
594
00:33:59,872 --> 00:34:01,705
but he did it to escape
from going to jail.
595
00:34:01,739 --> 00:34:03,874
His name was Curtis Dixon.
596
00:34:03,876 --> 00:34:08,445
And in 2004, he was a 21-year-old
student in UNC Wilmington.
597
00:34:08,447 --> 00:34:10,447
I got his mug shot right here.
598
00:34:10,449 --> 00:34:13,784
Now, he lived in a dorm
about 3,000 feet from here.
599
00:34:13,786 --> 00:34:18,021
He became obsessed with
another student in the same dorm,
600
00:34:18,023 --> 00:34:20,624
an 18-year-old girl
named Jessica Faulkner.
601
00:34:20,691 --> 00:34:21,958
I got her photo.
602
00:34:24,362 --> 00:34:27,464
He took the same classes as
her, he kept making moves on her,
603
00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:28,832
but she wanted nothing
to do with him.
604
00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:33,737
So, now, on May fourth, 2004,
Curtis lured her to the room
605
00:34:33,739 --> 00:34:35,572
by saying he had
a present for her.
606
00:34:35,574 --> 00:34:36,907
So, now, once she's in the room,
607
00:34:36,909 --> 00:34:38,608
when she got there,
he did the old,
608
00:34:38,610 --> 00:34:40,811
"Oh, turn around,
I want to surprise you."
609
00:34:40,813 --> 00:34:45,949
He strangles her, he rapes
her, ties her to the bed.
610
00:34:46,584 --> 00:34:49,186
The next morning,
he gets up and she's dead.
611
00:34:49,821 --> 00:34:51,621
I get disgusted just talking
about this guy.
612
00:34:51,623 --> 00:34:53,957
Uh, so the prosecution
threw the book at him
613
00:34:53,959 --> 00:34:57,594
and he was facing the death
penalty, basically, in North Carolina.
614
00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:58,728
While he was in prison,
after his arrest,
615
00:34:58,730 --> 00:35:01,231
he broke free
from one of the guards.
616
00:35:01,233 --> 00:35:04,935
He ran up three flights of stairs,
he took a head dive over the top
617
00:35:04,937 --> 00:35:07,437
and landed on his head
and broke his neck and died.
618
00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:10,040
- What the [bleep]?
- [Steve] Yeah.
619
00:35:10,042 --> 00:35:13,310
Is it possible he's one of the
criminals you saw that's here?
620
00:35:13,511 --> 00:35:14,878
Yes.
621
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,615
[Steve] Okay, so at least we know
who one of these shadow guys are.
622
00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:20,984
Do they do anything else
to these guys?
623
00:35:20,986 --> 00:35:24,654
[Amy] I saw him in the back
bedroom, a girl in there crying.
624
00:35:24,656 --> 00:35:25,989
- That's Karyll's room.
- Mm-hmm.
625
00:35:25,991 --> 00:35:30,660
[Amy] He appears as, you know,
8-feet tall, black mask.
626
00:35:30,662 --> 00:35:33,997
She heard a noise
outside her bedroom door
627
00:35:33,999 --> 00:35:38,101
and then, all of a sudden, it
came into the crack of the door.
628
00:35:38,103 --> 00:35:40,403
And was, literally,
staring at her.
629
00:35:40,838 --> 00:35:42,739
[Amy] That's not good.
630
00:35:42,741 --> 00:35:44,908
What I was seeing was
him attacking her physically,
631
00:35:44,910 --> 00:35:46,810
uh, holding her down
by her wrists
632
00:35:46,812 --> 00:35:49,713
and was doing something
to her right leg.
633
00:35:49,715 --> 00:35:52,582
Is it possible she doesn't
remember in the morning?
634
00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:56,620
Or, just too scared to say? Because,
I mean, she's never told me that.
635
00:35:56,622 --> 00:35:58,889
But, she has had bruises on her leg
and I'll be like, "Oh, what happened?"
636
00:35:58,891 --> 00:35:59,856
And she'll be like,
"I don't know."
637
00:36:00,324 --> 00:36:03,326
And she's complained
about pain in her legs.
638
00:36:03,328 --> 00:36:06,763
[Amy] It's possible she can't
remember the attacks. Yeah.
639
00:36:06,765 --> 00:36:10,867
Now, is Karyll's room the only
room where they're attacking people?
640
00:36:10,869 --> 00:36:14,404
[Amy] No. I saw one of
them in the lime-green room.
641
00:36:14,406 --> 00:36:16,339
[Steve] So, that's Mia's room.
642
00:36:16,341 --> 00:36:20,844
His attitude was even more intense
than the other guy in the other room.
643
00:36:20,846 --> 00:36:23,413
I heard him yelling
at the person.
644
00:36:23,415 --> 00:36:27,284
And I saw him
actually jumping this person.
645
00:36:28,219 --> 00:36:34,090
We're making this person
do or say or act abnormally.
646
00:36:34,092 --> 00:36:38,128
Uh, so, it's harming them more
mentally and psychologically.
647
00:36:38,429 --> 00:36:40,430
Why? She's 10 years old.
648
00:36:40,432 --> 00:36:42,232
He wants to torture her.
649
00:36:43,634 --> 00:36:44,901
- That pisses me off.
- [Sarah] Yeah.
650
00:36:44,903 --> 00:36:47,871
[Steve] Tell Amy about her mood
swings and how she gets angry.
651
00:36:47,873 --> 00:36:52,642
So, she too, will get
extremely angry
652
00:36:52,644 --> 00:36:53,710
and kind of fly off the handle.
653
00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:55,912
And it's so out of character
for her.
654
00:36:55,914 --> 00:36:58,815
We had an idea that
something bigger was going on.
655
00:36:58,817 --> 00:37:02,185
We knew that it wasn't just her.
656
00:37:02,187 --> 00:37:06,022
Is that possible, that she's being
jumped and that's what's coming out?
657
00:37:06,157 --> 00:37:07,724
Yeah.
658
00:37:08,192 --> 00:37:12,862
[Steve] So, Amy, Mia's seen a shadow
figure too. And she did a drawing of it.
659
00:37:12,864 --> 00:37:16,099
Anything familiar about this
sketch from what you saw?
660
00:37:16,968 --> 00:37:19,102
Well, I had a sketch done
of, of what I saw.
661
00:37:29,981 --> 00:37:31,047
Hmm.
662
00:37:35,853 --> 00:37:37,020
[Sarah exhales]
663
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:40,056
That's exactly how she sleeps.
664
00:37:41,492 --> 00:37:42,025
It's very scary.
665
00:37:42,027 --> 00:37:45,262
It's very, very scary.
666
00:37:46,197 --> 00:37:47,998
No kid should deal
with any of it.
667
00:37:48,032 --> 00:37:49,399
It's disgusting.
668
00:37:49,401 --> 00:37:50,967
I mean, I'm ready
to get rid of him.
669
00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:52,168
I want to hurt him.
670
00:37:52,737 --> 00:37:54,204
Nobody messes with my kids.
671
00:38:10,921 --> 00:38:13,123
So, Jon, Sarah, you guys thought
672
00:38:13,125 --> 00:38:16,293
something paranormal in the
house was going after your children.
673
00:38:16,694 --> 00:38:17,794
And you were right.
674
00:38:17,796 --> 00:38:19,963
But now, we gotta answer
the big question.
675
00:38:20,498 --> 00:38:22,832
Is there something you can do,
676
00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:25,635
so you can get back to
being a healthy, happy family?
677
00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:28,305
Or, you have to get
the hell out of here.
678
00:38:28,307 --> 00:38:30,340
Um, for that answer,
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
679
00:38:32,677 --> 00:38:36,846
First thing, uh, that needs to
be taken care of is the men.
680
00:38:36,848 --> 00:38:42,786
So, you can find
any type of witch.
681
00:38:42,788 --> 00:38:45,889
And the first thing
that they need to do
682
00:38:45,891 --> 00:38:49,626
is to cleanse the home
and the yard.
683
00:38:49,628 --> 00:38:51,895
Now, once that's done,
684
00:38:51,897 --> 00:38:57,367
the witch will then put
a barrier up in the yard.
685
00:38:57,369 --> 00:39:01,604
Then the men will
lose interest and leave.
686
00:39:01,606 --> 00:39:08,278
When this person is doing all of
these steps, someone needs to be there
687
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,015
following them and learning
every single thing they're doing.
688
00:39:12,017 --> 00:39:18,388
Because, this will need to be
repeated at least once a month,
689
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:21,658
while you guys
are still in this home.
690
00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:24,661
[Steve] Will things get better once
these shadow guys are out of the house?
691
00:39:24,663 --> 00:39:29,599
Yes. I believe
that Mia won't be,
692
00:39:29,601 --> 00:39:33,937
uh, as aggressive in her
behaviors as she is being now.
693
00:39:33,939 --> 00:39:38,775
They won't see, uh,
the shadow guys anymore.
694
00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:41,044
Is any of this cleansing stuff
gonna help...
695
00:39:41,046 --> 00:39:43,279
Uh, and the barrier,
help this impending doom
696
00:39:43,281 --> 00:39:45,148
that you're feeling
in the neighborhood?
697
00:39:45,182 --> 00:39:46,649
Yeah.
698
00:39:46,717 --> 00:39:53,323
The consistent cleansing is going to
help to, uh, get that out of your space.
699
00:39:53,325 --> 00:39:58,628
As far as the poltergeist phenomenon
is concerned, regarding Mia,
700
00:39:58,630 --> 00:40:05,602
she should, uh, take some type of
creative writing workshop or class.
701
00:40:05,604 --> 00:40:09,839
It will help her focus and
process and disperse her energy.
702
00:40:09,841 --> 00:40:14,644
Then, it's okay for her to
begin to dig into her ability
703
00:40:14,646 --> 00:40:20,550
and really figure out
what she wants to do.
704
00:40:20,552 --> 00:40:26,089
As for Karyll, right now, I would
suggest learning about crystal protection.
705
00:40:26,091 --> 00:40:30,193
Uh, learning about various,
uh, types of herbs and oils
706
00:40:30,195 --> 00:40:32,429
that she can use
to protect herself.
707
00:40:33,631 --> 00:40:34,330
This is all doable.
708
00:40:34,332 --> 00:40:36,132
- [Sarah] Absolutely.
- Yeah.
709
00:40:36,134 --> 00:40:37,033
You guys feel good about it?
710
00:40:37,035 --> 00:40:38,301
Yes.
711
00:40:38,769 --> 00:40:40,069
- We have answers.
- [Sarah] Yeah.
712
00:40:40,071 --> 00:40:42,238
It's a weight off of our
shoulders, I feel like.
713
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:43,773
- We have a plan.
- [Sarah] Yeah.
714
00:40:43,775 --> 00:40:46,242
Which is more than
we've had in a long time.
715
00:40:46,944 --> 00:40:49,712
I'm gonna ask you two the
same question I ask everybody,
716
00:40:49,714 --> 00:40:51,080
are you gonna take Amy's advice?
717
00:40:51,415 --> 00:40:53,249
- Absolutely.
- [Jon] Yup.
718
00:40:54,852 --> 00:40:56,986
- He's gotta go.
- [Steve] Yeah.
719
00:40:57,087 --> 00:40:59,923
I have no patience for bullies.
720
00:40:59,925 --> 00:41:04,360
I mean, knowing that we can protect our
kids and they can actually sleep at night
721
00:41:04,362 --> 00:41:08,431
and won't be living
day-to-day scared.
722
00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:12,101
There's no words for it. I mean, I
think that we're incredibly thankful.
723
00:41:12,103 --> 00:41:14,804
Thank you guys so much.
724
00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:17,607
[Amy] I really hope Jonathan and Sarah
follow my advice and work with a witch
725
00:41:17,609 --> 00:41:23,012
to remove the dead men and
cleanse their house of negative energy.
726
00:41:23,014 --> 00:41:26,983
If they do that, and help their daughters
learn how to control their abilities,
727
00:41:26,985 --> 00:41:31,955
I believe this family can live peacefully
in their home for many years to come.
728
00:41:38,929 --> 00:41:41,965
Thank you, Steve and Amy,
for coming out.
729
00:41:41,967 --> 00:41:44,434
After the reveal,
Jon and I found
730
00:41:44,436 --> 00:41:48,004
the witch that Amy
had recommended.
731
00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:52,108
[Jon] Since then, the activity in
the house has pretty much vanished.
732
00:41:52,110 --> 00:41:55,011
[Sarah] Everybody in the home
seems to be at peace.
733
00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:59,249
And we're happy with
everything that is going on now.