1 00:00:10,166 --> 00:00:13,867 [Cindy] The house itself attacks people. 2 00:00:13,867 --> 00:00:17,600 Creates the perfect storm to really destroy a family. 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,800 My family is kinda falling apart right in front of me. 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,800 It ripped a big hole into all of our hearts. 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,233 There's a murderer around here, I swear to God. 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,867 Instantly, just pushed me down, right here. 7 00:00:31,867 --> 00:00:33,166 Did that scare you? 8 00:00:33,166 --> 00:00:35,266 Yeah, it was so hard. 9 00:00:35,266 --> 00:00:37,934 His goal would be to have you all die. 10 00:00:40,700 --> 00:00:43,266 Oh, my God. This house feels terrible. 11 00:00:45,066 --> 00:00:48,166 I keep hearing, "Murder, murder, murder." 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,400 My name is Cindy Kaza. 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,100 I'm a psychic medium. 14 00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:55,967 Somebody is conjuring up the spirits in this house, I swear to God. 15 00:00:55,967 --> 00:00:57,467 I ask questions of the dead... 16 00:00:57,467 --> 00:00:59,433 These people are grave robbers. 17 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:02,000 ...to find answers for the living. 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,734 I'm a 100% sure that we're dealing with something demonic. 19 00:01:06,867 --> 00:01:08,367 I'm Steve DiSchiavi. 20 00:01:08,367 --> 00:01:10,900 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 21 00:01:10,900 --> 00:01:13,066 So, when he jumps you like that, what happens? 22 00:01:13,066 --> 00:01:16,667 It's my job to dig up history on every house we investigate. 23 00:01:16,667 --> 00:01:17,900 I wanted to run the bloodbath. 24 00:01:17,900 --> 00:01:19,967 And dig up secrets that wanna stay hidden. 25 00:01:19,967 --> 00:01:22,000 We've done everything but burn the house down. 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,700 Together, we help terrified families. 27 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:25,867 A man's voice said, "I'm going to kill you." 28 00:01:25,867 --> 00:01:27,767 Decide whether it's safe to stay. 29 00:01:27,767 --> 00:01:31,567 I let him sit there and fight this thing. 30 00:01:31,567 --> 00:01:33,166 Or pack a bag and get out. 31 00:01:33,166 --> 00:01:35,967 His goal would be to have you all die. 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,266 [Cindy] Okay. [clears throat] 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,900 This house is its own entity. 34 00:01:58,900 --> 00:02:00,867 I think we have to be pretty careful, 35 00:02:00,867 --> 00:02:03,000 going in there tonight, just energetically. 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,934 Because I feel like, the house itself attacks people. 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,467 Oof. Oh, my God. This house feels terrible. 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,066 A loud house. Angry house. 39 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:21,166 Angry. 40 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:34,967 [Steve] So, I'm out here in Westminster, Colorado. 41 00:02:34,967 --> 00:02:36,667 Just outside of Denver. 42 00:02:36,667 --> 00:02:38,967 We got called in by a guy named Job. 43 00:02:38,967 --> 00:02:40,500 He's a married father of five. 44 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:43,567 And the paranormal is ripping his family apart. 45 00:02:43,567 --> 00:02:46,600 But here's what makes this case different. 46 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,634 Job is a professional paranormal investigator. 47 00:02:51,166 --> 00:02:52,867 So, I asked him what he needed us for, 48 00:02:52,867 --> 00:02:56,767 and he said he is in over his head, and he's desperate. 49 00:02:56,767 --> 00:02:59,367 Here's hoping that Cindy and I can help this family out. 50 00:03:02,667 --> 00:03:05,800 So, Job, you got a beautiful home, this area's really pretty. 51 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,100 You got your paranormal man cave, here in the backyard. 52 00:03:09,100 --> 00:03:11,000 It seems like everything could be great for you. 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,266 But when we spoke, you sounded miserable. 54 00:03:13,266 --> 00:03:15,867 Steve, it's gotten pretty dangerous around here, 55 00:03:15,867 --> 00:03:18,000 to where it's attacking our family. 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,667 It's attacked me. 57 00:03:19,667 --> 00:03:23,767 To the point where, even as a professional, you need help. 58 00:03:23,767 --> 00:03:26,500 So, let's follow basics. Who lives here? 59 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:29,734 So, here's a picture of my family. 60 00:03:30,667 --> 00:03:33,000 [Steve] Wow. You got some crew here. 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,467 -Are you guys a blended family? -Yeah. 62 00:03:35,467 --> 00:03:37,467 You've been investigating the paranormal for how long? 63 00:03:37,467 --> 00:03:38,967 About six years. 64 00:03:38,967 --> 00:03:42,000 So you have any inclination that it could be something 65 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,900 to do with your work that's causing all this? 66 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:45,166 I don't think so. 67 00:03:45,166 --> 00:03:47,667 If it's not work, what do you think might have caused all this? 68 00:03:47,667 --> 00:03:51,567 I'd say when my cousin Eric was murdered, 69 00:03:51,567 --> 00:03:53,867 three years ago, it opened the floodgates. 70 00:03:53,867 --> 00:03:55,867 I'm sorry to hear about your cousin. 71 00:03:55,867 --> 00:03:57,800 All right, so did they make an arrest in this case? 72 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,200 Yeah, they found the guy and he's been convicted. 73 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,700 Okay, so that's something. It's a little bit of closure. 74 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:05,867 Um, do me a favor, tell me about your cousin. 75 00:04:05,867 --> 00:04:07,567 [Job] He was a great man. 76 00:04:07,567 --> 00:04:10,000 Would take his shirt off his back for you. 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,400 And he always gave people second chances. 78 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,367 Did he ever live here, or spend time here? 79 00:04:14,367 --> 00:04:15,667 He was always here. 80 00:04:15,667 --> 00:04:18,400 Why do you think your cousin's murder has something to do 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,066 with the activity getting worse here. 82 00:04:20,066 --> 00:04:21,767 It ripped a big hole 83 00:04:21,767 --> 00:04:23,734 into all of our hearts. And... 84 00:04:24,867 --> 00:04:26,266 Since, it's been-- 85 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:28,567 It's just been chaos, all the time. 86 00:04:28,567 --> 00:04:29,800 You think he's here? 87 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,166 I think he drops in. 88 00:04:31,166 --> 00:04:34,066 I think he hangs out here. 89 00:04:34,066 --> 00:04:38,367 Okay, so, Job, do me a favor. Give me a list of what you guys' are experiencing. 90 00:04:38,367 --> 00:04:40,767 So, there's things moving on their own. 91 00:04:40,767 --> 00:04:42,667 We hear footsteps. 92 00:04:42,667 --> 00:04:44,667 Strange sounds throughout the house. 93 00:04:44,667 --> 00:04:47,900 Our moods are being affected on a daily basis. 94 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:50,066 Shadow figures and apparitions. 95 00:04:50,066 --> 00:04:52,700 Even to the point where we're being attacked. 96 00:04:52,700 --> 00:04:55,567 So, Job, when you say moods are being affected, in what way? 97 00:04:55,567 --> 00:04:59,166 The anger's just so intense that you just... 98 00:04:59,166 --> 00:05:00,767 You can't hold back. 99 00:05:00,767 --> 00:05:02,567 Do you feel that the... 100 00:05:02,567 --> 00:05:05,066 the issues with the mood swings and the paranormal here 101 00:05:05,066 --> 00:05:06,800 is gonna tear your family apart? 102 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,567 That's why I wanted to reach out to you guys 103 00:05:08,567 --> 00:05:11,100 -because I can't lose my family. -Right. 104 00:05:11,100 --> 00:05:13,133 Just thinking about it breaks my heart, 105 00:05:20,567 --> 00:05:24,367 [Cindy] Wow. There's definitely a poltergeist here. 106 00:05:24,367 --> 00:05:27,700 It's creating an environment where people are so anxious 107 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:28,967 and so afraid 108 00:05:28,967 --> 00:05:31,934 that they're starting to argue, they're starting to fight. 109 00:05:32,867 --> 00:05:37,567 So the fear, the anxiety, the fighting, 110 00:05:37,567 --> 00:05:40,400 it's feeding the poltergeist activity. 111 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,400 That's what it wants. 112 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,500 There's a combination of all the things 113 00:05:44,500 --> 00:05:46,100 that creates the perfect storm 114 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:48,066 to make for a huge mess. 115 00:05:48,066 --> 00:05:49,734 And to really destroy a family. 116 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:53,166 People are starting to not trust each other. 117 00:05:56,767 --> 00:06:00,500 Somebody is conjuring up the spirits in this house, I swear to God. 118 00:06:00,500 --> 00:06:02,900 I just wanna keep saying, "Stop playing with fire. 119 00:06:02,900 --> 00:06:05,400 "Like, metaphorically and literally. 120 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,967 "Stop playing with fire." 121 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:14,867 [Steve] All right, Job. 122 00:06:14,867 --> 00:06:17,367 So, what experiences are going on that you can tell me about? 123 00:06:17,367 --> 00:06:20,000 So, I have awful, terrible nightmares. 124 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,166 Okay, can you describe them? 125 00:06:21,166 --> 00:06:24,100 It was as if I was looking at hell from a distance. 126 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:26,467 -Okay. -And I could see people burning 127 00:06:26,467 --> 00:06:27,767 in the lake of fire. 128 00:06:27,767 --> 00:06:31,567 And also, there was a bunch of shadow figures standing around me. 129 00:06:31,567 --> 00:06:36,767 And the pinned me to a cross and then they hung me upside down. 130 00:06:36,767 --> 00:06:38,767 That's pretty horrific. Now, let me ask you something. 131 00:06:38,767 --> 00:06:42,000 I take some over the counter medication to go to bed and it give me-- 132 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,467 Not nightmares like that but it gives me some weird dreams. 133 00:06:44,467 --> 00:06:46,867 -You taking anything to go to sleep? -No. 134 00:06:46,867 --> 00:06:48,400 Okay, so what else can you tell me? 135 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,800 So, I was laying on the couch downstairs 136 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,767 and i felt these two big hands 137 00:06:52,767 --> 00:06:54,200 just slap me on the chest 138 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,867 and a deep, guttural demonic voice just say, "Hey." 139 00:06:58,867 --> 00:06:59,800 I couldn't breathe. 140 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,567 I don't even know how to debunk that. 141 00:07:01,567 --> 00:07:03,867 Okay, has anything else like that happened? 142 00:07:03,867 --> 00:07:05,867 So, we were actually downstairs, watching TV, 143 00:07:05,867 --> 00:07:08,567 and I had these-- like this burning sensation 144 00:07:08,567 --> 00:07:10,367 on the back of my neck 145 00:07:10,367 --> 00:07:12,166 and turns out, it was scratches. 146 00:07:13,967 --> 00:07:16,767 -Did you have an allergic reaction to anything? -[Job] No. 147 00:07:16,767 --> 00:07:18,266 So, Job, let me ask you a question, 148 00:07:18,266 --> 00:07:20,400 as a professional paranormal investigator. 149 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,567 You went into somebody's house, 150 00:07:22,567 --> 00:07:24,400 you just heard exactly what you told me, 151 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,400 what would you tell 'em? 152 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,767 I would say, "It's time for you guys to go." 153 00:07:31,767 --> 00:07:34,834 [Cindy] Lot of physical stuff that happens in this house. 154 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:38,367 Sometimes people are hanging out here 155 00:07:38,367 --> 00:07:40,367 and then, all of a sudden, it's like... 156 00:07:40,367 --> 00:07:41,700 The cupboards are open. 157 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:44,100 It's like, "What? How did that happen?" 158 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:46,066 Are there any other kind of experiences 159 00:07:46,066 --> 00:07:48,367 the living might be having with this poltergeist? 160 00:07:48,367 --> 00:07:50,634 I feel like... Beds shake... 161 00:07:52,867 --> 00:07:54,634 Doors slam... 162 00:07:55,700 --> 00:07:57,433 Things flying around... 163 00:07:58,266 --> 00:08:00,266 Physical injuries, pushing. 164 00:08:00,266 --> 00:08:02,667 Would you say the living are in danger because of this? 165 00:08:02,667 --> 00:08:04,600 They're in danger of being physically harmed. 166 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,066 They're in danger of being psychologically harmed. 167 00:08:08,066 --> 00:08:10,433 If something doesn't change, it's only gonna get worse. 168 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:19,000 [Steve] So, Melissa, I talked to your husband, Job, 169 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,567 He says whatever's here is pretty dangerous 170 00:08:21,567 --> 00:08:23,700 and it's causing everybody to fight with each other. 171 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:25,400 -I mean, do you agree with that? -Yeah. 172 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,700 He'll be a totally different person, 173 00:08:27,700 --> 00:08:30,000 I'll be a totally different person. 174 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,000 What I'm seeing in our kids is, quite frankly, terrifying me at this point. 175 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,767 I feel pretty terrified, actually, 176 00:08:36,767 --> 00:08:39,233 that my family's kinda falling apart right in front of me. 177 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:43,066 And I feel like I should know what to do. 178 00:08:43,066 --> 00:08:45,467 -Right. -But I don't. 179 00:08:45,467 --> 00:08:48,066 Okay, so, what experiences can you tell me? 180 00:08:48,066 --> 00:08:51,467 I heard this tremendously loud banging noise. 181 00:08:51,467 --> 00:08:54,567 -Okay, where was it? -Upstairs, on the front door. 182 00:08:54,567 --> 00:08:56,367 We were in the kitchen area. 183 00:08:56,367 --> 00:08:58,567 Okay, so, how loud was the bang? 184 00:08:58,567 --> 00:09:00,900 It was super intense and loud. 185 00:09:00,900 --> 00:09:03,200 -Okay. Obviously, you went to the door. -I ran to the door. 186 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,600 There was nobody there. 187 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,300 Okay, so, you had that banging. Anything else? 188 00:09:08,300 --> 00:09:10,300 I never feel alone, ever. 189 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:11,767 Always being watched. 190 00:09:11,767 --> 00:09:14,667 And there's always something with me. 191 00:09:14,667 --> 00:09:15,533 Following me. 192 00:09:15,533 --> 00:09:17,667 -So, do you feel that way, right now? -Yes. 193 00:09:17,667 --> 00:09:19,600 So you're feeling it now, do you have any sense 194 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,100 as to, like, where it's coming from? 195 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:23,667 It just always feels like it's just nearby, 196 00:09:23,667 --> 00:09:25,567 just out of arm's reach. 197 00:09:25,567 --> 00:09:28,367 Just over my shoulder. 198 00:09:28,367 --> 00:09:31,166 -Well, you got a lot of stuff going on in this house. -Yeah. 199 00:09:31,166 --> 00:09:33,333 I mean, most people would have just left. 200 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,600 [Cindy] There's a really pissed off male spirit 201 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,734 that is on this property. 202 00:09:42,967 --> 00:09:47,834 He's all over this place. He's all over it. 203 00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:50,567 Oh, my God. 204 00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:53,000 He sits in this chair 205 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,066 when people are sleeping. 206 00:09:55,066 --> 00:09:58,266 Like, they would feel like somebody's watching them. 207 00:09:58,266 --> 00:10:00,667 A lot of anger, rage, aggression. 208 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:03,200 Violence towards women. 209 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,567 Physically abusive. 210 00:10:05,567 --> 00:10:08,867 He does have the ability to make people feel like they're choking 211 00:10:08,867 --> 00:10:11,100 and he does have the power to push people. 212 00:10:11,100 --> 00:10:13,567 So, could they fall down the stairs? Yes. 213 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,400 When I'm sitting in this bed, 214 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,400 know that there are terrible, 215 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,066 terrible nightmares 216 00:10:21,667 --> 00:10:24,166 of really dark scenes. 217 00:10:24,166 --> 00:10:27,767 There's blood, there's gore, 218 00:10:27,767 --> 00:10:29,166 there's murder. 219 00:10:29,667 --> 00:10:31,667 He doesn't like this family. 220 00:10:31,667 --> 00:10:34,467 He doesn't want this family in this house. 221 00:10:34,467 --> 00:10:38,867 He especially doesn't want the kids to be happy. 222 00:10:38,867 --> 00:10:40,600 He's somebody who wants to kill the family, 223 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,734 like, he is so pissed off. 224 00:11:00,266 --> 00:11:02,900 [Steve] So, I was talking to Mom and Dad about the stuff that's going on here. 225 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:05,066 And, sounds pretty scary. 226 00:11:05,066 --> 00:11:07,166 Are you guys experiencing anything here? 227 00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:09,467 -Yeah. -You are? Okay. 228 00:11:09,467 --> 00:11:11,000 So Anabelle, I'm gonna start with you. 229 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Can you tell me about some of the stuff you're experiencing? 230 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,200 Well, I had an experience in my room, 231 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,467 that I've been feeling watched. 232 00:11:20,467 --> 00:11:23,600 Is there any spot in the room you feel it's coming from? 233 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,367 My closet. 234 00:11:25,367 --> 00:11:27,567 [Steve] Your closet. Okay. 235 00:11:27,567 --> 00:11:28,767 And when does this happen? 236 00:11:28,767 --> 00:11:31,166 -All the time. -Yeah, and does it scare you? 237 00:11:32,266 --> 00:11:33,867 Yeah, okay. 238 00:11:33,867 --> 00:11:36,166 So, Daisy, what experiences can you tell me about? 239 00:11:36,166 --> 00:11:38,367 I could hear these heavy footsteps. 240 00:11:38,367 --> 00:11:41,266 Okay. Can you describe what it sounds like? 241 00:11:41,266 --> 00:11:43,567 It sounds like heavy boots. 242 00:11:43,567 --> 00:11:45,000 [Steve] When you heard these footsteps, 243 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,166 did you go up to check to see if anybody was up? 244 00:11:47,166 --> 00:11:49,667 Yes, I have, multiple times. 245 00:11:49,667 --> 00:11:52,233 And every time I come back to tell my parents, 246 00:11:52,900 --> 00:11:55,000 -nobody's there. -Okay. 247 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,400 And what else have you experienced? 248 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,867 One time, I was on a video call with my friend. 249 00:11:59,867 --> 00:12:02,233 And she was, like, "Daisy, there's somebody standing behind you." 250 00:12:03,166 --> 00:12:05,266 And then I looked back and there's nothing there. 251 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:07,400 Did your friend say if it was male or female? 252 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,266 -Male. -Okay. 253 00:12:09,266 --> 00:12:13,567 Do you wanna move or would you rather us try to fix this so you can stay? 254 00:12:13,567 --> 00:12:15,767 -Fix this so you could-- so we can stay. -You wanna stay. 255 00:12:15,767 --> 00:12:18,166 If we can have it fixed and still stay here, 256 00:12:18,166 --> 00:12:20,100 it'd be a lot better than moving. 257 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:22,166 Okay. So then, that's the deal. We're gonna have to fix this. 258 00:12:22,166 --> 00:12:23,634 -That sound like a plan? -Yeah. 259 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,233 Okay. 260 00:12:32,467 --> 00:12:33,834 Oh, boy. 261 00:12:34,667 --> 00:12:36,467 I don't like it. 262 00:12:36,467 --> 00:12:38,967 The girl that sleeps in this room 263 00:12:38,967 --> 00:12:42,033 is really affected by this house. 264 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,767 I just feel like, 265 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:50,066 she's waking up screaming in the middle of the night. 266 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:52,200 The image I'm seeing, 267 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,100 is her bedroom door 268 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:56,100 and a line of spirits 269 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:57,867 just, like, waiting to get in. 270 00:12:57,867 --> 00:12:59,867 -Do you think this girl has abilities? -Yes. 271 00:12:59,867 --> 00:13:04,400 The girl who sleeps in this room is definitely tapped in, 272 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,233 and is definitely feeding this activity, 273 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,467 And I feel like she is in danger 274 00:13:11,467 --> 00:13:14,734 because she doesn't understand what's happening. 275 00:13:16,266 --> 00:13:17,867 It is dangerous for her. 276 00:13:18,667 --> 00:13:20,066 Yeah. 277 00:13:29,266 --> 00:13:31,567 [Steve] So, I was talking to Mom and Dad today. 278 00:13:31,567 --> 00:13:33,000 They were telling me about all the scary stuff 279 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,100 that's going on in the house here. 280 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:38,000 -You guys having a tough time? -Yeah. 281 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,300 Say, Carson, will you tell me about some of the stuff you've had happen? 282 00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:42,700 I've had anger-- 283 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:44,100 I don't know where it comes from. 284 00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:45,467 I'll sit-- I'll be sitting in my bed 285 00:13:45,467 --> 00:13:49,000 and I'll feel like I need to punch or, like, punch the wall. 286 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,567 Does it just come on? 287 00:13:50,567 --> 00:13:52,800 -Yeah, it just turns on, like-- -Out of nowhere? 288 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,000 Yeah, it just-- a flick of a switch and then I'm mad. 289 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,467 -Does this happen to you at school? -Mmm-mm. 290 00:13:58,467 --> 00:14:00,233 So, it's only here, when you're home? 291 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,266 Okay. 292 00:14:02,266 --> 00:14:04,467 So, Millie, cutie pie, 293 00:14:04,467 --> 00:14:06,667 can you tell me what you've experienced? 294 00:14:06,667 --> 00:14:08,000 Yeah. 295 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,266 So, I was on the couch 296 00:14:10,266 --> 00:14:13,166 and somebody just pushed me down right here. 297 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,367 Yeah, it was so hard. 298 00:14:15,367 --> 00:14:17,567 Yeah? Show me on my hand, how hard. 299 00:14:17,567 --> 00:14:19,266 -It was like that. -Ooh. 300 00:14:19,567 --> 00:14:21,000 Okay. 301 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,166 Did that scare you? 302 00:14:22,166 --> 00:14:25,400 -yeah. -Yeah, I bet it did. Okay. 303 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,567 So, Ainsley, why don't you tell me what you've experienced. 304 00:14:28,567 --> 00:14:31,967 Me and my friend were upstairs on this couch. 305 00:14:31,967 --> 00:14:34,567 We just see, like, this big, watery man 306 00:14:34,567 --> 00:14:36,667 just-- it just came out of nowhere. 307 00:14:36,667 --> 00:14:38,166 Okay, you say watery man 308 00:14:38,166 --> 00:14:41,667 like it just appeared off something as water and it shaped into a man? 309 00:14:41,667 --> 00:14:42,700 Mmm-hmm. 310 00:14:42,700 --> 00:14:43,767 What did it do? 311 00:14:43,767 --> 00:14:47,300 It was just standing there, like, just... 312 00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:48,767 moving back and forth. 313 00:14:48,767 --> 00:14:50,233 That must have scared you. 314 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:52,967 So, Carson, you know what Dad does, right? 315 00:14:52,967 --> 00:14:55,266 -Yeah. -Are you interested in doing that one day? 316 00:14:55,266 --> 00:14:56,266 Kind of. 317 00:14:56,266 --> 00:14:58,367 What about you Millie, you like what Dad does? 318 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,133 No. 319 00:15:00,133 --> 00:15:02,100 Millie, how come you don't like it? Does it scare you? 320 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:04,066 Yes. 321 00:15:04,066 --> 00:15:06,467 -How about you, Ainsley? -I don't really like, 322 00:15:06,467 --> 00:15:08,100 sometimes, what he does 323 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:10,567 because I don't want any ghost to hurt him. 324 00:15:10,567 --> 00:15:12,033 Right, Yeah. 325 00:15:18,066 --> 00:15:20,367 Ooh, I don't like this room either. 326 00:15:20,367 --> 00:15:22,433 Ooh, I don't like it. 327 00:15:25,767 --> 00:15:29,934 The kids are so affected by the activity in this house, 328 00:15:30,667 --> 00:15:33,266 I worry about what could happen. 329 00:15:33,266 --> 00:15:35,767 Wouldn't wanna be having slumber parties in this house. 330 00:15:35,767 --> 00:15:37,233 It's not a good idea. 331 00:15:38,567 --> 00:15:40,166 This is not good. 332 00:15:40,166 --> 00:15:41,867 It is not good at all. 333 00:15:43,467 --> 00:15:45,567 What I feel very confident about 334 00:15:45,567 --> 00:15:47,967 is that one of the kids 335 00:15:47,967 --> 00:15:50,767 opened up a doorway 336 00:15:50,767 --> 00:15:52,467 for a lot of spirits to come hang out. 337 00:15:54,467 --> 00:15:56,367 And not all of them are nice. 338 00:16:02,467 --> 00:16:04,567 [Steve] So I pulled the deed on Job's property, 339 00:16:04,567 --> 00:16:07,467 and gave it to a local genealogist who's helping me out. 340 00:16:07,467 --> 00:16:09,400 She just called me. 341 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,266 She says, one of the original owners of the land 342 00:16:11,266 --> 00:16:13,166 had a blessed life. 343 00:16:13,166 --> 00:16:16,634 But all that changed the second he bought that property. 344 00:16:24,767 --> 00:16:27,066 So, Sara, thanks again for helping me out with this case. 345 00:16:27,066 --> 00:16:29,266 Um, what did you find out about this guy? 346 00:16:29,266 --> 00:16:31,900 So, his name is Charles Harris. 347 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:34,300 He was born in 1853, 348 00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:35,467 -in Connecticut. -[Steve] Okay. 349 00:16:35,467 --> 00:16:36,767 [Sara] And then came to Denver 350 00:16:36,767 --> 00:16:38,700 after he graduated from Yale Law School. 351 00:16:38,700 --> 00:16:40,000 [Steve] So he's a smart guy. 352 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,166 Does he get involved with a woman, get married? What happens? 353 00:16:42,166 --> 00:16:45,000 Charles circulated in very wealthy circles in Denver. 354 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,467 And that's how he met and married Florence Rust, 355 00:16:47,467 --> 00:16:49,500 the daughter of a wealthy lumber bear. 356 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:52,700 Florence brough $100,00 to the marriage 357 00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:55,367 that went directly into Charles' bank account. 358 00:16:55,367 --> 00:16:57,767 Okay so now he's got this hundred grand in the bank, 359 00:16:57,767 --> 00:16:59,166 what's he wind up doing with the money? 360 00:16:59,166 --> 00:17:01,800 So, he starts buying up property all over town. 361 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,500 In 1887, he buys hundreds of acres, 362 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:09,400 including the property that you are currently investigating. 363 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,367 So, on the phone, you mentioned how things went bad 364 00:17:11,367 --> 00:17:12,867 one he got the property. What happened? 365 00:17:12,867 --> 00:17:15,567 So, everything looked like it was going okay 366 00:17:15,567 --> 00:17:19,567 until Charles and Florence and their children moved into the property. 367 00:17:19,567 --> 00:17:21,200 They had four children. 368 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,567 And in 1889, the whole family got sick with diphtheria. 369 00:17:25,567 --> 00:17:27,066 So, from what I know about diphtheria, 370 00:17:27,066 --> 00:17:28,500 that's a pretty serious infection. 371 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:30,867 Yes. they called it the "strangling angel", 372 00:17:30,867 --> 00:17:33,200 because it actually closed the throat. 373 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,200 All right, so the four kids have it. What happened? 374 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,667 So, tragically, two of their children died. 375 00:17:37,667 --> 00:17:40,800 -Charles Jr, and their daughter, Margaret... -Okay. 376 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,967 ...died withing 36 hours of each other. 377 00:17:42,967 --> 00:17:44,667 How old was Charles? 378 00:17:44,667 --> 00:17:47,166 So, Charles Jr. was four years old. 379 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:50,266 -And how old was the daughter? -Margaret was only a year old. 380 00:17:50,266 --> 00:17:52,066 And that's their obit. 381 00:17:52,066 --> 00:17:54,066 All right. So, this was a real tragedy. 382 00:17:54,066 --> 00:17:55,800 How did they recover from this? Or did they? 383 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,400 So, they didn't recover. 384 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,767 Things went from bad to worse. 385 00:17:59,767 --> 00:18:01,667 His investments started to tank 386 00:18:01,667 --> 00:18:03,367 and he lost over half of his wealth. 387 00:18:03,367 --> 00:18:06,567 With his failing businesses and losing two kids, 388 00:18:06,567 --> 00:18:08,567 Harris becomes a beaten man. 389 00:18:08,567 --> 00:18:10,834 And that's when Florence calls it quits. 390 00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:15,934 In 1892, Florence files for divorce. 391 00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:19,000 So this is a pretty thick divorce decree. 392 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,900 What were the claims that she wanted the divorce for? 393 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:26,066 So, the first claim was that Charles stole all the family's money. 394 00:18:26,066 --> 00:18:28,467 The second claim, she claims that 395 00:18:28,467 --> 00:18:31,467 her children actually died because of his neglect. 396 00:18:31,467 --> 00:18:33,000 And the third cause 397 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,767 was that he was going around town, 398 00:18:35,767 --> 00:18:38,667 telling everyone that she was insane. 399 00:18:38,667 --> 00:18:42,266 Okay, so it sounds like this guy might not have been such a great person. 400 00:18:42,266 --> 00:18:44,767 Um, what happened after the divorce with the two of them? 401 00:18:44,767 --> 00:18:46,667 So, Charles ends up alone. 402 00:18:46,667 --> 00:18:48,567 And he moves to North Carolina. 403 00:18:48,567 --> 00:18:50,200 Things get any better for him? 404 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,000 There wasn't a happy ending. 405 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,867 So, in 1944, he suffers from several falls 406 00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:56,567 and breaks both of his hips. 407 00:18:56,567 --> 00:18:58,467 -Okay. -He ended up bedridden 408 00:18:58,467 --> 00:19:00,567 and lost his ability to eat. 409 00:19:00,567 --> 00:19:02,600 So he starves to death. 410 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,166 That's a miserable way to go. 411 00:19:04,166 --> 00:19:07,100 -So... -And he dies at the age of 90. 412 00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:10,100 [Steve] This death certificate screams "died a broken man". 413 00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:11,133 Yes. 414 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,767 I'm seeing the angry old man again. 415 00:19:18,767 --> 00:19:21,567 The name Charles just came to me, as well. 416 00:19:21,567 --> 00:19:23,333 Charlie? Charlie. 417 00:19:24,767 --> 00:19:26,867 Violence towards women. 418 00:19:26,867 --> 00:19:28,467 Just not a nice guy. 419 00:19:28,467 --> 00:19:32,567 This man hated his wife when he was alive. 420 00:19:32,567 --> 00:19:34,266 I feel like they had a daughter. 421 00:19:34,266 --> 00:19:35,967 I feel like that had... 422 00:19:36,667 --> 00:19:38,000 a daughter and a son. 423 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,567 I feel like there's one of each. 424 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,500 He's not at peace. 425 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:43,000 There's no peace for him. 426 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,433 Miserable. 427 00:19:46,867 --> 00:19:49,967 This guy definitely doesn't wanna talk about his life. 428 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:52,900 So, I'm gonna try some automatic writing, 429 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:55,166 and see if I can get some information that way. 430 00:19:57,700 --> 00:19:59,233 [clears throat] 431 00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:13,567 The angry man is connected to this property. 432 00:20:13,567 --> 00:20:16,100 I feel like he would have died very close to here 433 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:17,567 or around here. 434 00:20:17,567 --> 00:20:20,000 He's angry that he had to-- that he died. 435 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,166 He's angry that he had to leave. 436 00:20:22,166 --> 00:20:24,166 It carries over into the afterlife. 437 00:20:24,166 --> 00:20:25,734 He's super angry. 438 00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:32,800 [Steve] So I just got a call from a local historian. 439 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,400 He tells me Job's property used to be part of a large orchard. 440 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,066 And there was a very mysterious death right on the land. 441 00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:48,567 So, Joel, thanks again for helping me 442 00:20:48,567 --> 00:20:50,400 with this case. What happened? 443 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,066 So, on July 5th of 1908, 444 00:20:52,066 --> 00:20:54,767 a group of boys went to the orchard to go swimming. 445 00:20:54,767 --> 00:20:55,567 What happens next? 446 00:20:55,567 --> 00:20:57,100 So, when they arrive a 19-year-old 447 00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:58,967 by the name of Paul Robert Rudolph 448 00:20:58,967 --> 00:21:00,300 jumped into the lake. 449 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:01,967 He suddenly let out a scream 450 00:21:01,967 --> 00:21:03,867 and sunk beneath the surface of the water, 451 00:21:03,867 --> 00:21:06,467 All right. So this kid disappears after letting out a scream. 452 00:21:06,467 --> 00:21:08,000 Did they ever recover his body? 453 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,367 They did but it took them several hours to do so. 454 00:21:10,367 --> 00:21:12,266 After raking and dredging the lake, 455 00:21:12,266 --> 00:21:14,266 they finally pulled out his lifeless body. 456 00:21:14,266 --> 00:21:15,600 It's kind of a mystery. 457 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,000 Paul was a very strong swimmer. 458 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,567 So they are not sure why he drowned in the lake that day. 459 00:21:19,567 --> 00:21:21,567 [Steve] The circumstances of this are very strange. 460 00:21:21,567 --> 00:21:23,767 So we got a healthy 19-year-old, that was a good swimmer, 461 00:21:23,767 --> 00:21:25,367 drowns out of nowhere. 462 00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:27,300 Strange. 463 00:21:32,467 --> 00:21:35,800 [Cindy] There's a spirit of a 16-year-old boy that's also here. 464 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,200 The spirit of a 16-year-old boy 465 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,367 that interacts with the kids in this house. 466 00:21:41,367 --> 00:21:43,166 Any idea how he interacts with them? 467 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,300 [Cindy] I feel like they'll see him. 468 00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:48,266 He-- He talks to the kids. 469 00:21:48,266 --> 00:21:50,567 He influences the kids. 470 00:21:50,567 --> 00:21:52,166 Have I said the name Bobby yet? 471 00:21:52,166 --> 00:21:54,433 Rober or Bob, that name? 472 00:21:55,567 --> 00:21:57,066 Okay. 473 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,700 I feel like he died unexpectedly. 474 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:02,133 I feel like it's a tragedy. 475 00:22:02,667 --> 00:22:04,100 I feel like it's an accident. 476 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,433 I don't feel like it was on purpose. 477 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,734 He lives here because he wants to have a family again. 478 00:22:12,700 --> 00:22:14,200 For more information on the show 479 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,567 and if you need us to investigate 480 00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:18,467 any unexplained paranormal activity in your home... 481 00:22:18,467 --> 00:22:20,767 please visit... [reading] 482 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:24,967 Click on "Help me, Dead Files" to submit your story 483 00:22:24,967 --> 00:22:26,333 and we'll help if we can. 484 00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:32,200 [Steve] So far, I've got a paranormal investigator 485 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,467 who believes the dead are ripping his family apart 486 00:22:35,467 --> 00:22:38,600 on the same property where a former owner lost two kids 487 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,934 and his marriage. 488 00:22:41,300 --> 00:22:43,767 But I wanna see if there's anything else. 489 00:22:43,767 --> 00:22:46,000 Searching through old records, I find an article 490 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,533 about the murder of a notorious gangster. 491 00:22:49,266 --> 00:22:51,266 Turns out, this homicide happened 492 00:22:51,266 --> 00:22:53,266 just down the street from Job's house. 493 00:22:53,266 --> 00:22:54,900 I'm heading over to meet a local author 494 00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:58,000 who says the victim was part of a famous crime family. 495 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,767 She says he managed to survive prison 496 00:22:59,767 --> 00:23:01,266 and life as a gangster. 497 00:23:01,266 --> 00:23:03,333 But he couldn't survive his own marriage. 498 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:14,500 Lisa, I appreciate you looking into this case for me. 499 00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:17,900 Um... So it sounds like this guy was part of an infamous crime family. 500 00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:19,266 What can you tell me about him? 501 00:23:19,266 --> 00:23:21,867 Well, it was 51-year-old Lloyd Barker. 502 00:23:21,867 --> 00:23:23,600 Does he have anything to do with Ma Barker? 503 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,967 That's right. He was one of her four sons. 504 00:23:25,967 --> 00:23:28,166 All right. So I know they were involved in a lot of crimes 505 00:23:28,166 --> 00:23:29,800 So what did he do to go to jail? 506 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,967 In 1921, he and some of the gang, 507 00:23:32,967 --> 00:23:37,400 robbed at gunpoint a US Mail truck in Baxter Springs, Kansas. 508 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,467 And Lloyd was sentenced to 25 years 509 00:23:40,467 --> 00:23:42,400 in Leavenworth Federal Prison. 510 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,066 And... 511 00:23:45,066 --> 00:23:47,467 here is a copy of his mugshot. 512 00:23:47,467 --> 00:23:50,467 All right. So, does he do the whole 25 years? Or does he get out early? 513 00:23:50,467 --> 00:23:51,567 Or what happened? 514 00:23:51,567 --> 00:23:54,667 He was let out early, in 1938, after just 16 years. 515 00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:56,567 He was let out for good behavior. 516 00:23:56,567 --> 00:23:58,367 All right, so it's 1938, he's out. 517 00:23:58,367 --> 00:24:00,900 Does he go back to a life of crime or does he stay straight? 518 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:03,800 He turns over a whole new leaf. 519 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,467 He enlists in the US Army, becomes a cook 520 00:24:06,467 --> 00:24:08,367 at a POW camp. 521 00:24:08,367 --> 00:24:11,367 And is then honorably discharged 522 00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:13,500 and even wins a good conduct medal. 523 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:16,200 And the moves to the Westminster area 524 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,867 and becomes an assistant manager at a restaurant. 525 00:24:18,867 --> 00:24:20,600 All right. So, Lisa, I know from our conversation 526 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,767 that he gets killed by his wife. 527 00:24:21,767 --> 00:24:23,166 What do we know about her? 528 00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:25,166 Uh, so, In 1946, 529 00:24:25,166 --> 00:24:27,967 he met and married a single mom named Jennie. 530 00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:30,266 -She had two kids from a previous marriage. -Okay. 531 00:24:30,266 --> 00:24:33,000 And then she and Lloyd had two children of their own. 532 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,100 You know, from the outside looking in, 533 00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:35,800 -it looks like everything is great, right? -Yeah. 534 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,166 What went wrong? 535 00:24:37,166 --> 00:24:41,166 So, Jennie started to show signs of mental illness pretty early on. 536 00:24:41,166 --> 00:24:42,867 Um, and back in the day, 537 00:24:42,867 --> 00:24:45,867 -people didn't talk about it. Just wasn't dealt with. -Right. 538 00:24:45,867 --> 00:24:48,000 So, she never got professional help. 539 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,367 Not that we know of. 540 00:24:49,367 --> 00:24:51,667 All right. So, take me through the murder. What the hell happened? 541 00:24:51,667 --> 00:24:55,100 Okay, so it's March 18th, 1949. 542 00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:58,000 And Lloyd goes to work like he always does every morning. 543 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,166 And when he gets there, he gets a phone call from Jennie, 544 00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:03,967 saying, " I don't feel well. Come home and see about the kids." 545 00:25:03,967 --> 00:25:06,767 -Okay. -So he goes home like a good husband. 546 00:25:06,767 --> 00:25:08,900 Puts his key in the lock, opens the door, 547 00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:12,100 and is met by Jennie with a 20-gauge shotgun. 548 00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:15,166 She shoots him in the head. He dies instantly. 549 00:25:15,166 --> 00:25:17,567 -Just like that. So he walked into an ambush? -That's right. 550 00:25:17,567 --> 00:25:19,967 There's an article about it. 551 00:25:19,967 --> 00:25:22,000 [Steve] So I assume she's arrested and charged with murder? 552 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,467 Yes. 553 00:25:23,467 --> 00:25:26,100 Okay, so now, what happens at the trial? 554 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:28,867 So the jury deliberates for all of 12 minutes 555 00:25:28,867 --> 00:25:30,767 before coming back with a verdict. 556 00:25:30,767 --> 00:25:33,066 Not guilty by reason of insanity. 557 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,166 Okay, so this poor slob winds up 558 00:25:36,166 --> 00:25:38,667 turning his life around after getting out of prison. 559 00:25:38,667 --> 00:25:40,200 trying to raise a family, working hard. 560 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,000 And then she blows his [bleep] brains out. 561 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,934 -Yeah. Mmm-hmm. -Just like that. 562 00:25:44,367 --> 00:25:45,367 Okay. 563 00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:51,133 I feel like somebody got shot around here. 564 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,133 I feel like there's... 565 00:25:54,967 --> 00:25:55,767 ...a murder. 566 00:25:56,767 --> 00:25:58,367 I don't know that it's in this house, 567 00:25:59,166 --> 00:26:01,166 but it has to be close. 568 00:26:01,166 --> 00:26:03,667 I feel like there might be something 569 00:26:03,667 --> 00:26:05,700 in the ground around here. 570 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:07,934 Like, bodies in the ground. 571 00:26:08,667 --> 00:26:09,634 It's just... 572 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,567 something's off. 573 00:26:11,567 --> 00:26:15,500 I keep hearing, "Murder, murder, murder." 574 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:17,734 There's a murderer around here, I swear to God. 575 00:26:25,767 --> 00:26:29,266 I saw a lot of terrifying things in my walk. 576 00:26:29,266 --> 00:26:32,767 But that line of dead going into a living girl's room, 577 00:26:32,767 --> 00:26:34,567 that has me really worried. 578 00:26:35,266 --> 00:26:36,800 There are several, several spirits. 579 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,467 Like a train of spirits going out of the door. 580 00:26:39,467 --> 00:26:40,867 What did they look like? 581 00:26:40,867 --> 00:26:43,300 I saw an older woman wearing a dress. 582 00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:45,667 I saw a tall man right behind her. 583 00:26:45,667 --> 00:26:47,166 I saw a teenager. 584 00:26:47,166 --> 00:26:48,900 It's, like, a variety of spirits. 585 00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:51,533 I mean, they are even, like, lined up in the doorway. 586 00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:56,767 Next, I described a terrifying scene 587 00:26:56,767 --> 00:26:58,667 that I saw in the main bedroom. 588 00:26:58,667 --> 00:27:02,000 I saw this very angry... 589 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,266 older man. 590 00:27:03,266 --> 00:27:05,767 sitting in the chair, just staring at the parents 591 00:27:05,767 --> 00:27:07,300 while they're sleeping. 592 00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:11,233 And he looked like he was around 68-69 years old. 593 00:27:12,266 --> 00:27:15,166 He had grease on his hands. 594 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,533 Cindy, is this what you saw? 595 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,033 Yeah, that's exactly what I saw. 596 00:27:35,934 --> 00:27:39,166 [Steve] Now that Cindy and I have completed our investigations, 597 00:27:39,166 --> 00:27:41,834 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 598 00:27:41,834 --> 00:27:44,133 and our clients, for the first time. 599 00:27:44,767 --> 00:27:46,233 So, Cindy, I'd like you to meet Job 600 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,000 and Melissa. 601 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,834 They're married and have a blended family. 602 00:27:49,834 --> 00:27:51,934 Actually, a big, blended family, 603 00:27:51,934 --> 00:27:52,834 with five kids. 604 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,567 Wow. 605 00:27:55,567 --> 00:27:57,834 [Steve] Now, they seem happy but looks can be deceiving. 606 00:27:58,767 --> 00:28:00,767 This is a family in crisis. 607 00:28:00,767 --> 00:28:03,100 -The paranormal is ripping them apart. -Mmm-hmm. 608 00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:04,667 If we can't help them tonight, 609 00:28:04,667 --> 00:28:06,000 they're not sure they're gonna make it. 610 00:28:06,867 --> 00:28:09,600 So, Cindy, when she's ready can tell us about 611 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,066 how things went on her walk. 612 00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:15,467 [Cindy] When I was walking in the back of the house, 613 00:28:15,467 --> 00:28:17,834 I saw a guy by the RV 614 00:28:17,834 --> 00:28:20,233 and he was holding a double-barrel shotgun. 615 00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:24,367 I felt like somebody had been shot. 616 00:28:24,367 --> 00:28:27,000 And there is a lot of blood involved. 617 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,433 And at one point, I kept hearing, "Murder, murder, murder." 618 00:28:32,467 --> 00:28:33,834 You know, Cindy, in my investigation, 619 00:28:33,834 --> 00:28:36,667 I actually did come across a murder that happened here. 620 00:28:36,667 --> 00:28:37,867 It was a long time ago 621 00:28:37,867 --> 00:28:40,100 but it involved a woman shooting her husband. 622 00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:42,066 But it sounds like the perp you saw was a man. 623 00:28:42,066 --> 00:28:43,166 Yeah. 624 00:28:43,166 --> 00:28:46,500 So, you should know of another murder involving a man, 625 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:48,567 who spent a lot of time in this house, 626 00:28:48,567 --> 00:28:51,100 and that's Job's cousin Eric. 627 00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:52,834 I got a photo of him, right here. 628 00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:58,934 [Job] Eric was a good man. 629 00:29:00,767 --> 00:29:04,567 He was the type of guy that gave his shirt off his back. 630 00:29:05,266 --> 00:29:07,000 And his heart was so big. 631 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,400 When he died, it ruined our family. 632 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,033 I'm sorry for your loss. 633 00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:14,734 [Melissa] He was always at our house. 634 00:29:14,734 --> 00:29:16,767 -Big part of the kids' lives. All right. -Yep. 635 00:29:16,767 --> 00:29:18,066 They all love him 636 00:29:18,467 --> 00:29:19,266 and adore him. 637 00:29:19,266 --> 00:29:21,066 He was everybody's, like, best friend. 638 00:29:21,066 --> 00:29:22,567 Mmm-hmm. 639 00:29:22,567 --> 00:29:24,500 [Job]When he was ripped away from this world 640 00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:27,166 it opened a floodgate of paranormal. 641 00:29:27,166 --> 00:29:29,166 Have you seen him in the house 642 00:29:29,166 --> 00:29:30,767 since he's passed away? 643 00:29:30,767 --> 00:29:33,166 No, But we'll get, like... 644 00:29:33,867 --> 00:29:36,600 He used to smoke Marlboro cigarettes. 645 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,066 And he would-- And you can smell it in the house. 646 00:29:39,066 --> 00:29:41,066 When you smell cigarette smoke, 647 00:29:41,066 --> 00:29:42,767 that's him coming to say hello. 648 00:29:42,767 --> 00:29:44,300 And coming to say, "I love you." 649 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:46,166 His soul's at peace. 650 00:29:46,166 --> 00:29:47,734 That's gotta make you feel better. 651 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,333 It does. 652 00:29:54,467 --> 00:29:56,367 The next thing that I wanna talk about 653 00:29:56,367 --> 00:29:57,934 really has me concerned. 654 00:29:58,767 --> 00:30:01,200 I feel like somebody in the house 655 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,166 is trying to communicate with spirits. 656 00:30:04,166 --> 00:30:07,367 And because of this and other things that we're gonna discuss later, 657 00:30:07,367 --> 00:30:09,300 I feel like the house has become 658 00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:12,367 sort of like a gateway for the dead. 659 00:30:12,367 --> 00:30:15,066 Random spirits are coming in and out all the time. 660 00:30:16,066 --> 00:30:17,066 [sighs] 661 00:30:17,066 --> 00:30:20,600 Job, I think it's probably time we tell Cindy 662 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,500 what you do for a living. 663 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:26,166 We do professional paranormal investigating. 664 00:30:28,934 --> 00:30:30,567 Wow. Okay. 665 00:30:31,934 --> 00:30:33,834 When I walked into the back bedroom, 666 00:30:33,834 --> 00:30:36,367 I saw a child who is deeply affected 667 00:30:36,367 --> 00:30:37,667 by paranormal activity. 668 00:30:37,667 --> 00:30:39,266 [Steve] So, which bedroom was it? 669 00:30:39,266 --> 00:30:40,567 [Cindy] Down the hall, to the right. 670 00:30:40,567 --> 00:30:43,000 -[Steve] So, that's Daisy's room, right? -[Melissa] Yeah. 671 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,834 I thought she was around 11 or 12. 672 00:30:44,834 --> 00:30:45,867 [Steve] She's 12. 673 00:30:45,867 --> 00:30:47,467 I saw her waking up 674 00:30:47,467 --> 00:30:49,200 in the middle of the night, saying something like, 675 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,367 "There's a monster in my room. There's a monster in my bed." 676 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,567 I think she has abilities. 677 00:30:54,567 --> 00:30:55,634 I think she's a medium. 678 00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:01,567 But she doesn't understand her gift and it scares her. 679 00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:04,967 During my walk, I saw a lot of people 680 00:31:04,967 --> 00:31:07,133 standing in line, waiting to talk to her. 681 00:31:07,834 --> 00:31:09,667 I had a sketch done of what I saw. 682 00:31:19,867 --> 00:31:21,066 [gasps] 683 00:31:21,066 --> 00:31:22,533 -Yeah. -You ain't kidding. 684 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:26,433 That's [bleep] up. 685 00:31:27,734 --> 00:31:29,066 [Cindy] That terrified me. 686 00:31:30,367 --> 00:31:33,000 -It's like a waiting room. -[Cindy] Mmm-hmm. 687 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,166 [Job] It makes me feel like a fool 688 00:31:35,166 --> 00:31:37,066 because I'm supposed to be 689 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:39,233 the protector of my family 690 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,667 and we pride ourselves on going out and battling 691 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:45,266 outside 692 00:31:45,266 --> 00:31:47,166 and the battle's inside my home. 693 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,467 [Steve] I'm afraid to even ask you if you've seen anything else. 694 00:31:56,467 --> 00:31:58,967 There's definitely poltergeist activity in this house, 695 00:31:58,967 --> 00:32:00,166 and it's really bad. 696 00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:02,934 It's really dangerous, 697 00:32:02,934 --> 00:32:05,567 On a scale of one to ten, I feel like it's 11. 698 00:32:06,266 --> 00:32:07,734 [whistles] 699 00:32:07,734 --> 00:32:09,367 For poltergeist activity to occur, 700 00:32:09,367 --> 00:32:12,066 I think you need three ingredients you need to have. 701 00:32:12,066 --> 00:32:13,900 Tragedy, something on the land. 702 00:32:14,767 --> 00:32:16,500 You need to have somebody who is open. 703 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,533 And you need to have arguing or turmoil in the home. 704 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,600 Yeah. 705 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,467 Job, Melissa and the kids have been fighting, 706 00:32:25,467 --> 00:32:27,967 which is not normal for them, all the time. 707 00:32:27,967 --> 00:32:30,066 We try to wake up and be really positive. 708 00:32:30,066 --> 00:32:33,166 And think "Okay, today is a new day, fresh start." 709 00:32:33,166 --> 00:32:36,934 And then, somebody is inexplicably 710 00:32:36,934 --> 00:32:38,667 angry or out of character 711 00:32:38,667 --> 00:32:42,066 or just completely it's like they're not 712 00:32:42,066 --> 00:32:44,300 the same people. 713 00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:46,934 [Steve] Carson was telling me he gets so mad he wants to punch the wall. 714 00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:49,000 He's ten years old. 715 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,867 Yeah You're losing your [bleep] and you're thinking to yourself, like, 716 00:32:52,867 --> 00:32:54,400 "Dude, what the hell are you doing? 717 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,166 "The [bleep] you doing? Calm down." 718 00:32:56,166 --> 00:32:57,767 The poltergeist activity can cause 719 00:32:57,767 --> 00:32:59,667 a lot of physical activity in the house. 720 00:33:00,834 --> 00:33:03,033 I feel like... Beds shake... 721 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,567 Doors slam... 722 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:09,900 Things flying around... 723 00:33:10,767 --> 00:33:12,433 Physical injuries, pushing. 724 00:33:13,867 --> 00:33:16,467 Now, Melissa, if you can, tell Cindy about the banging 725 00:33:16,467 --> 00:33:18,266 you heard on the front door that day. 726 00:33:18,266 --> 00:33:21,367 Yeah, our front door, a loud... 727 00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,100 horrifically loud bang. 728 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:26,033 like SWAT was about to come in our house. 729 00:33:26,667 --> 00:33:28,567 There was nobody there. 730 00:33:28,567 --> 00:33:30,266 [Steve] Now you mentioned it about getting physical. 731 00:33:30,266 --> 00:33:32,000 I got a photo here of... 732 00:33:32,567 --> 00:33:33,367 Job. 733 00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:38,667 [Job] We were watching TV 734 00:33:38,667 --> 00:33:41,467 and I felt, like, a burning sensation on my neck. 735 00:33:41,467 --> 00:33:43,834 And I asked Melissa, "Can you check and see what it is?" 736 00:33:43,834 --> 00:33:46,767 And she's like, "You got couple of scratches on your neck." 737 00:33:46,767 --> 00:33:48,600 Now, does all this sound lie poltergeist activity? 738 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,634 -Absolutely, yeah. -Okay. 739 00:33:55,467 --> 00:33:56,934 [Cindy] The next thing I wanna talk about 740 00:33:56,934 --> 00:34:00,266 is the dead man who is very active 741 00:34:00,266 --> 00:34:01,333 in your house. 742 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,266 -Mmm-hmm. -Very angry. 743 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,266 Very aggressive. 744 00:34:06,266 --> 00:34:10,500 To me, he felt to be in his late 60s. 745 00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,100 I was getting the name Charles, or Charlie. 746 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:14,567 He hated his wife. 747 00:34:14,567 --> 00:34:16,133 -[Melissa hums] -Hated his wife. 748 00:34:16,934 --> 00:34:19,834 He is very abusive and violent towards women. 749 00:34:19,834 --> 00:34:21,367 And I feel like he and his wife 750 00:34:21,367 --> 00:34:23,166 had a daughter and a son, together. 751 00:34:23,166 --> 00:34:26,400 So, they had kids. But he doesn't like kids in the house. 752 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,500 I feel like he lived on this property 753 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:30,166 or connected to the property. 754 00:34:30,166 --> 00:34:32,100 e's really, really angry that he's dead. 755 00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:33,767 He's angry that he died. 756 00:34:33,767 --> 00:34:36,066 And the rage that he felt in the living, 757 00:34:36,066 --> 00:34:38,266 he carried it to the afterlife. 758 00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:40,767 Well, I have a pretty good idea who you are talking about. 759 00:34:40,767 --> 00:34:42,266 His name was Charles Harris. 760 00:34:42,266 --> 00:34:43,834 Oh, my God. 761 00:34:43,834 --> 00:34:46,033 So, this is him, right here. 762 00:34:46,266 --> 00:34:48,000 Wow. 763 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,667 So he ended up marrying the daughter of a wealthy lumber baron. 764 00:34:50,667 --> 00:34:52,667 He got her to deposit a hundred grand 765 00:34:52,667 --> 00:34:54,734 into his bank account after they got married. 766 00:34:54,734 --> 00:34:57,266 Absolute fortune back in the 1800s. 767 00:34:57,266 --> 00:35:00,967 In 1887, he bought up hundreds of acres 768 00:35:00,967 --> 00:35:02,667 which included the land your home sits on. 769 00:35:02,667 --> 00:35:05,967 The minute he bought this property, that's when his life 770 00:35:05,967 --> 00:35:07,400 -went straight downhill. -Mmm. 771 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,667 In 1889, Charles was living here with his wife and four kids. 772 00:35:10,667 --> 00:35:12,667 When the entire family got diphtheria. 773 00:35:13,834 --> 00:35:17,266 Tragically, Charles lost his young son and daughter 774 00:35:17,266 --> 00:35:19,767 to the disease, within 36 hours of each other. 775 00:35:19,767 --> 00:35:20,834 Oh... 776 00:35:20,834 --> 00:35:23,567 The son was four and the daughter was, like, one. 777 00:35:23,567 --> 00:35:24,834 I actually have their obit here. 778 00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:28,300 Now, losing two kids is bad enough, right? 779 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:31,533 But things continued to spiral downhill for Harris after that. 780 00:35:32,166 --> 00:35:33,867 Uh, his investments tanked 781 00:35:33,867 --> 00:35:35,867 and he wound up losing half his net worth. 782 00:35:35,867 --> 00:35:37,200 And it that wasn't bad enough, 783 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,767 his wife Florence filed for divorce in 1892. 784 00:35:39,767 --> 00:35:42,100 I've got his divorce decree right here. 785 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:43,867 And it's a big one. 786 00:35:43,867 --> 00:35:45,767 You mentioned this man was not a nice guy, right? 787 00:35:45,767 --> 00:35:47,934 -Yeah. -[Steve] Harris' wife would agree. 788 00:35:47,934 --> 00:35:49,100 According to this decree, 789 00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:51,166 she blamed him for the deaths of the kids 790 00:35:51,667 --> 00:35:53,467 saying he was neglectful. 791 00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:54,834 And then she accused him 792 00:35:54,834 --> 00:35:56,667 of going around town telling everybody 793 00:35:56,667 --> 00:35:57,967 she was crazy. 794 00:35:57,967 --> 00:36:00,367 Now, after the divorce, he winds up selling the property, 795 00:36:00,367 --> 00:36:03,367 ad moved to the Carolinas in 1905. 796 00:36:03,367 --> 00:36:07,367 In 1944, he suffered a couple of falls and broke both his hips. 797 00:36:07,767 --> 00:36:08,867 Now, he was bedridden, 798 00:36:08,867 --> 00:36:10,500 and was in so much pain, 799 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:11,767 he couldn't eat. 800 00:36:11,767 --> 00:36:14,266 I'm going to show you the death certificate. As you can see, 801 00:36:14,266 --> 00:36:15,834 it's hard to read, but... 802 00:36:16,767 --> 00:36:19,233 Basically, it says he starved to death. 803 00:36:20,166 --> 00:36:21,100 [Cindy] Oh... 804 00:36:22,166 --> 00:36:24,233 -Could this be the guy Angry guy? -Yes. 805 00:36:26,166 --> 00:36:28,166 That's crazy because I've seen him. 806 00:36:29,066 --> 00:36:29,767 [Cindy] You have? 807 00:36:29,767 --> 00:36:31,333 -[Job] I have. -Mmm-hmm. 808 00:36:31,333 --> 00:36:34,433 -[Job] He sits on the couch. -[Melissa] He sits on the black couch downstairs. 809 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,200 [Cindy] Okay. 810 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,266 I saw him sitting in the chair. 811 00:36:38,266 --> 00:36:40,367 The rocking chair next to your bed. 812 00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:42,467 He was just staring at you while you sleep. 813 00:36:43,467 --> 00:36:46,367 And I had a sketch done of what I saw. 814 00:36:51,767 --> 00:36:52,734 [Steve] Oh, Jesus. 815 00:36:54,467 --> 00:36:55,900 He even looks miserable. 816 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,834 Good grief. 817 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,967 That's how he looks when he sits on the couch, too. 818 00:37:05,967 --> 00:37:07,533 You can just catch glimpses of him. 819 00:37:08,667 --> 00:37:10,667 [Cindy] Well, he's really active all over the house. 820 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:12,967 He's very physical. 821 00:37:12,967 --> 00:37:14,367 He can give people nightmares. 822 00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:16,867 Push people. Shoves people. 823 00:37:16,867 --> 00:37:18,900 It does not want kids in the house. 824 00:37:19,967 --> 00:37:21,367 Tell her about you being smothered. 825 00:37:21,367 --> 00:37:24,166 I was laying on the couch and... 826 00:37:24,166 --> 00:37:26,300 I felt these two big hands 827 00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:28,367 just smash into my chest. 828 00:37:28,367 --> 00:37:31,200 Almost to the point it knocked the wind out of me. 829 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,166 Smashed my face into the pillow, 830 00:37:33,166 --> 00:37:34,433 and was suffocating me. 831 00:37:35,567 --> 00:37:38,000 If it had a couple more seconds, I wouldn't be here. 832 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,100 Mmm-hmm. 833 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:40,767 Now, you mentioned nightmares. 834 00:37:40,767 --> 00:37:42,467 You told me about your nightmares. 835 00:37:42,467 --> 00:37:43,967 Tell Cindy about that? 836 00:37:43,967 --> 00:37:47,567 I saw these black shadows around the bed. 837 00:37:47,567 --> 00:37:50,166 and they pinned me to a cross. 838 00:37:50,166 --> 00:37:52,834 And as the walls were crumbling, 839 00:37:52,834 --> 00:37:56,100 I'm looking out... in the distance 840 00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,266 and there's this, like, a lake of fire. 841 00:37:58,266 --> 00:38:02,066 And I can see people burning and screaming. 842 00:38:02,066 --> 00:38:04,500 When I woke up, I was just terrified. 843 00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:07,066 And you said this guy hates kids. Wasn't Millie pushed? 844 00:38:07,066 --> 00:38:08,066 Yeah. 845 00:38:08,066 --> 00:38:10,266 You could hear her land. 846 00:38:10,266 --> 00:38:12,367 And she, to this day, will tell you-- 847 00:38:12,367 --> 00:38:14,266 like, she's like, "I felt big hands, 848 00:38:14,266 --> 00:38:16,033 "so strong, push me." 849 00:38:16,867 --> 00:38:19,634 His goal would be to have you all die. 850 00:38:21,767 --> 00:38:24,500 You wanna protect your family and your kids 851 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:26,834 and this [bleep] is sitting in your chair. 852 00:38:29,266 --> 00:38:30,867 Just pisses me off, you know. 853 00:38:30,867 --> 00:38:32,467 I feel guilty. 854 00:38:32,467 --> 00:38:34,433 Like I'm letting them down somehow. 855 00:38:35,467 --> 00:38:36,634 My heart hurts. 856 00:38:43,734 --> 00:38:45,734 [Steve] So, Job, I'll take a bet 857 00:38:45,734 --> 00:38:47,767 that most paranormal investigators 858 00:38:47,767 --> 00:38:50,767 would be too proud to call in anybody for help. 859 00:38:50,767 --> 00:38:53,100 So you deserve a ton of credit for that. 860 00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:55,166 I know you did it 'cause your number one concern 861 00:38:55,166 --> 00:38:57,266 is keeping your family together. 862 00:38:57,266 --> 00:38:58,467 So now we're gonna find out 863 00:38:58,467 --> 00:39:00,400 if you can become a loving family again 864 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,667 and if so, 865 00:39:01,667 --> 00:39:04,467 can you do it while still living in this house. 866 00:39:04,467 --> 00:39:07,033 For those answers, I'm gonna turn it over to my partner, Cindy. 867 00:39:09,867 --> 00:39:12,667 [Cindy] You guys have a lot going on in your home. 868 00:39:12,667 --> 00:39:14,767 So first things first, 869 00:39:14,767 --> 00:39:17,000 Charles... Gotta get rid of Charles. 870 00:39:18,166 --> 00:39:19,500 You need to have 871 00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:21,367 a medium come in 872 00:39:21,367 --> 00:39:23,300 and talk to this man. 873 00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:25,166 And try to get him to leave. 874 00:39:25,166 --> 00:39:26,367 Any particular medium? 875 00:39:26,367 --> 00:39:29,100 Has it gotta be a man or a woman? Does it matter? 876 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:33,433 With Charles, I would honestly recommend having a male medium come in. 877 00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:37,667 Because he hates women so much, 878 00:39:37,667 --> 00:39:39,500 he'll be more open to listening that way. 879 00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:40,734 Okay. 880 00:39:41,867 --> 00:39:44,667 Secondly, I really think Daisy should meet with a medium 881 00:39:44,667 --> 00:39:47,266 so she can learn how to control her abilities. 882 00:39:47,266 --> 00:39:48,567 That's really important. 883 00:39:49,567 --> 00:39:50,734 Once she does that, 884 00:39:50,734 --> 00:39:53,467 I really think the dead will leave the house. 885 00:39:53,467 --> 00:39:55,834 Next, you need to have a house blessing. 886 00:39:56,867 --> 00:39:59,767 And as you both know, salt can be effective. 887 00:39:59,767 --> 00:40:02,567 So, putting salt around the house. 888 00:40:02,567 --> 00:40:04,834 If you do all of these things, 889 00:40:04,834 --> 00:40:06,100 and you can get Charles to go, 890 00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:07,634 then the poltergeist activity 891 00:40:07,967 --> 00:40:09,367 should calm down. 892 00:40:09,367 --> 00:40:12,166 The fighting, I would hope, would calm down. 893 00:40:12,967 --> 00:40:15,166 And I think that you can stay in your home. 894 00:40:15,166 --> 00:40:15,934 That's great news. 895 00:40:15,934 --> 00:40:17,033 Good news. 896 00:40:17,033 --> 00:40:18,767 That's incredible news. 897 00:40:18,767 --> 00:40:22,600 And there's one other thing that I did for you 898 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,567 when I was in the house during the walkthrough. 899 00:40:26,667 --> 00:40:28,233 I do spirit art. 900 00:40:29,467 --> 00:40:32,867 And I drew one of your spirit guides 901 00:40:32,867 --> 00:40:35,266 who, I believe, 902 00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:36,567 can be helpful in the home. 903 00:40:36,567 --> 00:40:38,734 So, I feel, you can hang him on the wall. 904 00:40:38,734 --> 00:40:40,233 -[Melissa] Yeah. Oh, my God. -[Steve] Hmm. 905 00:40:42,266 --> 00:40:45,166 That's awesome to feel like you have backup. 906 00:40:45,166 --> 00:40:47,367 That you're not the only one in the fight. 907 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,867 Yeah. 908 00:40:49,867 --> 00:40:51,367 I just wanna make sure 909 00:40:51,367 --> 00:40:53,467 -that you're gonna listen to what Cindy tells you to do... -[Melissa] Yeah. 910 00:40:53,467 --> 00:40:54,467 ...and get it done. 911 00:40:54,467 --> 00:40:55,467 Definitely. 912 00:40:55,467 --> 00:40:57,567 Not afraid of the heavy lifting part. 913 00:40:57,567 --> 00:40:59,166 I'm ready to fight. 914 00:40:59,166 --> 00:41:00,634 I'm ready to go to war. 915 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,066 [Cindy] I'm really happy that I was able to give some good news 916 00:41:05,066 --> 00:41:06,533 to Job and Melissa. 917 00:41:07,166 --> 00:41:09,033 They have a lot of work to do. 918 00:41:09,033 --> 00:41:12,166 But I really think that if they follow my advice, 919 00:41:12,166 --> 00:41:14,567 the unwanted dead will leave the house, 920 00:41:14,567 --> 00:41:16,667 and they can go back to being a loving family. 921 00:41:25,867 --> 00:41:27,767 Hey, Steve. Hey, Cindy. 922 00:41:27,767 --> 00:41:29,266 We wanted to send you an update video 923 00:41:29,266 --> 00:41:32,066 on everything that's been going on inside the house. 924 00:41:32,066 --> 00:41:36,100 We reached out to a priest in the Catholic Church 925 00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:40,100 to come out and do a rite of exorcism and bless the house. 926 00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:42,934 And since, things have gotten a lot better. 927 00:41:42,934 --> 00:41:45,967 Yeah, it's a much lighter, 928 00:41:45,967 --> 00:41:47,467 more reflective place 929 00:41:47,467 --> 00:41:50,734 and we are grateful to both of you 930 00:41:50,734 --> 00:41:52,967 for making us realize 931 00:41:52,967 --> 00:41:55,166 that we're not crazy. 932 00:41:55,166 --> 00:41:56,767 We needed your help. 933 00:41:56,767 --> 00:41:58,867 -So thank you. -Thank you.