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[ Dog barking ]

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[ Explosion ]

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Move it!

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Where's my wife?
I don't know!

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You're a clever one Corky.

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Sync and correction by GeirDM
www.addic7ed.com

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man: People always think that
the times they live in

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are unique, and they also think
that the times they live in are

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the most difficult
and the most chaotic.

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If you go backwards
to the civil war, the country

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came to an end...
it split in two.

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And they weren't sure
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going to come
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To do a cop show
set in the 1860s

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is so rich with drama,

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because everything that
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faces on a day-to-day basis,

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they faced back then, but...

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They didn't have a lot of
the stuff that we have

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to make it
a little easier.

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Good, the next scene's going to
be like this, right?

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Yeah...
Yeah.

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Let's go right away, guys.

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"Copper" is a cop show
set in New York

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during the civil war.

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You're now looking at.

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New York City

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140-some years ago.

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Man:
You move through

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all these different parts
of New York

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and see how aggressive, unsure,

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and violent
the time was.

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I think it's a show that's built
on hope and survival.

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I mean, the fact that it's built
around a police force

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in the most dilapidated area
in New York during 1864

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is a struggle
for most people.

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I guess it's
an "upstairs, downstairs"

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type of dichotomy going on,

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but they very much overlap.

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One one level,
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five points aspect.

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And then you have

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what goes on up in fifth Avenue.

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Try not to miss me
too much.

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Man: I definitely think
there's a huge

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class structure,
which was more simple...

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you had the people who are in
the elite part of New York,

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and you had the people
that just weren't.

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"Copper" is a...
it's about a lot of things,

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but it is a crime drama.

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It's an interesting
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about the nascent New York.

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Man: The way "copper" came about

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was, I received
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Christina Wayne, and she had
been working on an idea

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for a series with a wonderful
screenwriter, Will Rokos.

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Woman: I had recently met will

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for other projects,
and had read a script...

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he was, you know, nominated
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so, upon meeting him, I just
thought his dark sensibility

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would be great

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for a show like this.

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Man: I started off
with a great producer

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who helped get executives
and producers

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interested in actually making it
into a television series.

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Christina was able to get
Tom Fontana to take a look,

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and Tom really brought a lot,

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made it more alive
and richer.

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You know, once you have
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and once you have the funding,
and once you have a script,

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and once you have a vague
outline of a plan,

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the real hurdle becomes

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finding the people to
actually execute it.

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But you must find people who are
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what they do as craftsmen,

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but can also really
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of something this gigantic
and this unknown.

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Man: It's a great team,
from top to bottom.

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I think it's really good
storytelling,

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and it has a great backdrop
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There was huge immigration
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five points, crowded, chaotic.

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I mean, you're really talking
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interesting elements

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through the eyes of
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I want to know
what Schwarz knows.

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Schwarz!

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I'm Tom Weston-Jones
and I'm playing Kevin Corcoran,

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who is the Irish American cop in
the five points,

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trying to create
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of law and order
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Captain...

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Every time
I've seen a man drop,

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he tries to grab
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Mm-hmm? He was dead
before he was lynched.

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That's these kind of

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beginnings of
crime scene investigation.

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I'm not sure yet if
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I am sure that O'Connor was
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a long, thin needle.

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More of your
scientific nonsense.

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Let me prove Gerlin's guilt
before we hang him.

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Man: As he's investigating
other cases

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as a policeman, he's trying to
solve a personal mystery

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that's been haunting him.

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If you should happen
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a distinctive gold locket

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engraved with the letters
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it might have pictures of a man
and a little girl on the inside.

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Man: What's interesting is,

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through the police eyes,
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with all the different
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in New York City.

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a really squalid situation
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also, uptown on fifth Avenue.

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Man: In civil war era New York,

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fifth Avenue becomes
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opulence, luxurious living.

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They had a way of life
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only to a few of the elite.

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I think someone
needs to dance.

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Yes, he does!
[ Chuckles ]

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Woman: Five points wouldn't
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even though those areas
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There is this knowledge
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that we're living this life,

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and just down the street
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a completely different
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Jones: In the five points,
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bad to live there,
there were still people

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who were trying to
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and make the best of it.

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But it's just the sheer
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that make it
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New York City,
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reached roughly a million people
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roughly 500,000
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the small strip of Manhattan
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had roughly 20,000 people,

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and had the highest density
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not only of any place

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in New York City,
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any place in
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Fontana: Jacob Riis's
groundbreaking book,

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"how the other half lives,"

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was the first time that this
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His photographs were taken

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20 years after our series,

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but the lives that he depicted
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are not substantially different
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that we're depicting
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Man: The five points,
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was principally
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There were blacks,
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there were Italians,
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it's the Irish working class
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the police department is roughly
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and there were a lot of
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Would the Irish catholic
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be loyal
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Or would they be loyal to
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[Irish accent ]
You're committing an insult

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against our people!
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locked up for being Irish,
I'd go to belfast!

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Man: Not everybody in
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I think that there's a lot of
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that really respected

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and appreciated what the police
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the most dangerous job

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in New York at the time,
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a police officer
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Man:
If you're given power

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in an area

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filled with people that will do

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whatever they want to survive,
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play it pretty tough.

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Always good to be on
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It was a messy,
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There was bigotry,
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and crime.

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I think this has
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which makes for
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and you're also showing very
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No cane?
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When you see something
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"wow, that's actually
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it's pretty damned exciting.

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What's even more exciting

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is when you see something

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better than what
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Essandoh: I mean,
it's almost like

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it <i>smells</i> of New York
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I mean, so...
especially in the butcher's!

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Yeah, oh, yeah.

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You really don't have to
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when you smell
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It's very honest.

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Very, very honest.

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[ Bang, woman gasps ]

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Christ!

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Can't you knock?

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♪ Ah ♪

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Creating new characters
is always

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fun and challenging,
because what you want to do

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is come up with characters that
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which I think we have done
with this show.

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Our lowly Irish asses would hang
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but you... you sit there,
letting them win,

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because you want the hoi polloi
to think.

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Ciaran Joseph Sullivan
was a good boy.

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You finished, copper?

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Fontana: In terms of
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I think, uh,
the character of Corcoran

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is a hero without necessarily
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You know, it's like
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in terms of the size of

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the struggle that he has
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the series.

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Jones: Some people would say

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he's an incredibly
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He's come back from
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to find out that his wife
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and his daughter is dead.

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And his morals come into
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because he has to do

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the wrong things
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Maguire and O'Brien

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are his boys,

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and you'll get a real sense of
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And especially Maguire and
Corcoran, he's his go-to guy.

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Get Freeman!

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Get Freeman!

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Ryan: I think at the core

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of our relationship

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with Corcoran, Maguire
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I think it's friendship.

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And it's ultimate friendship
and trust.

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And we've all,
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have our layers of what we've
done that isn't correct,

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or that, that affects our
friendship, but I think

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we absolutely have
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Thank God there's
three of us, then, huh?

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Jones: O'Brien is
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of the group... O'Brien is
the guy who will just

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pick someone up and throw them
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That's his go-to place
during a fight.

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Taylor: Andrew O'Brien is a very
loyal man... he's married

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to Sybil O'Brien, who wears
the pants in the relationship,

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certainly.

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And he's relatively new to
the whole detective business.

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You seem awfully calm
for a guilty man.

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I think O'Brien is really

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enamored by the work
that Corcoran does,

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because he's
this detective

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that thinks outside the box.

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[ Knock at door ]
Yes?

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There's a body in Cow bay.

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Wayne: Franka Potente
plays "Eva,"

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who is the madame
at the brothel.

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She is a very powerful woman

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in five points;
She is very cunning,

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and also

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has a soft side,
a weak side to her,

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which is her love
for Corcoran.

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As little courtesy
is all I'm asking.

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I'm not thinking courteous
thoughts right now.

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With Corcoran and Eva,
their relationship,

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you'll see, is a very, very
heated, sexual one.

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Potente: I think, overall,
she wants prosperity.

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This is why she came
to America

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and left everything behind.

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She wants the American dream.

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You know? And she
works hard for it.

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She wants a home,
she wants everything

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that other people
want, too,

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but, you know, without children
and that kind of stuff.

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In the case of Annie,
which is kind of like

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this little thing that
comes to her by accident,

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I always imagine that it's,
like, a hint of a memory

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of herself, maybe.

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So, you don't have to
be afraid, all right?

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Come along, Ann.

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Annie Reilly is a girl
who's a runaway,

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she's grown up
way too quickly.

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She has had
a horrible childhood,

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and I think she's searching
for, just,

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someone to care for her,
to love her,

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and for protection.

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Please don't send me
back to Mr. Reilly!

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Jones: Well, Annie is

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an immediate reminder
of his daughter,

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and it breaks Corcoran's heart

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to see her suffering
so much.

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Get some rest,
Annie.

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So, that need to
make things okay

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becomes very convoluted
and very strange.

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So, it's a fascinating

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relationship between the two,
because you never really know

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which way
it's going to turn.

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Kevin, I'm sorry.

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I think women during
the 1860s

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had a lot of conventions
forced upon them.

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And the way that you behaved
in society, it was

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much more rigid

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and restricted,
in terms of

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what you were allowed
to do or say.

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Thank you.

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Elizabeth Haverford is

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a well-to-do woman who was
brought up in London,

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and she finds herself
on fifth Avenue,

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where they're all emulating that
same stifling British society,

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and she's really not finding

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the space and the freedom
that she wants.

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She's seeing a lot of men
who say one thing

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and do another...
live a very polite life

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but actually behave
very badly.

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And she doesn't respect it.

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And she really doesn't care
that much what society thinks.

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You may show yourselves out
once the performance is over,

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and then, please,
never call again.

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It's a complicated thing
for Corcoran,

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because he has spent
his entire life surrounded by

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the people of five points,
where he really feels at home.

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But the person who he mixes most
with from fifth Avenue

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would be morehouse...
that's where he gets

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his flavor and his sense of,
you know,

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the elite class
of New York.

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Corky, join us.

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Man: Morehouse is
an upper-class character

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who has a very interesting
political compass

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that separates him from a lot of
the upper Echelon

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in New York City.

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Father!

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I see you have a new clerk.

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He isn't 100% about money...
of course, that's business.

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He's not willing to
let go of his wealth.

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There will be
a proper commission.

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But I think his moral compass

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is a place where
he kind of feels

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that he's a man
of the people,

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although I don't think anybody
else would feel that way.

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Your friend Corcoran
is beneath contempt.

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Which puts him one level
above you.

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If you weren't norbert's son,

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I would give you
a good thrashing.

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If you were to say that there's
one character

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who is the most honest
and true and good,

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I'd say that Matthew Freeman
is that character.

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I think he's an incredibly
moral person.

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What do you want? I want
to know how she died.

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You know, I feel that
the character,

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Matthew Freeman, he represents
where we all want to be

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as people, because

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what he does is, he doesn't
look, necessarily,

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at the color of your skin.

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It's my assistant.
His name is Kevin.

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Jones: He's someone that
Corcoran not only

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turns to for help with
the detective work

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that he comes across,
but also

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in terms of, you know,
his choices

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and what he does
with his time.

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And both of them have
concern for one another.

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Today is moving day.

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You're moving?
To where?

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Just up north of the new park,
Commonsville.

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So far away?

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00:17:21,784 --> 00:17:23,183
Look around you, Corky.

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00:17:23,185 --> 00:17:26,353
Since the riots, my people have
been moving out of five points.

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What a love about a lot of
the relationships in this

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is that they're bonded through
turmoil and suffering.

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And you can see that with
the relationship between

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Freeman and Morehouse.

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I wouldn't call them

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friends in the true sense
of the word.

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I'd call them...

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Unlikely companions.

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You, me, and our good friend,
Matthew Freeman,

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we three must
tread carefully.

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Our lives depend
on our finesse.

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Morehouse, Corcoran,
and the character that I play,

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Matthew Freeman, we all fought
together in the civil war.

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Morehouse was the major
who led us,

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and Corcoran and I, we were in
the trenches together.

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Jones: I think the thing that
ties them all together is

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they're all kind of modern
thinkers, in their own ways.

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They all see something
in the other person

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that they really admire,

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00:18:22,478 --> 00:18:24,445
but there are huge differences
between all three of them.

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If he beats McGuinness, you know
these fine people will riot.

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00:18:27,216 --> 00:18:30,050
You could give me a free
consultation now and then.

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Fontana: The actors

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that we've hired
are so wonderfully human.

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00:18:35,424 --> 00:18:38,259
And they're so

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00:18:38,261 --> 00:18:40,361
multi-dimensional,

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00:18:40,363 --> 00:18:42,096
what they're bringing
to the characters...

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00:18:42,098 --> 00:18:44,566
because none of these characters
is evil,

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00:18:44,568 --> 00:18:48,603
and none of these characters
is totally good.

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They're real people in a real
time that existed,

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00:18:51,809 --> 00:18:55,611
and our actors are, I think,

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doing a terrific job
of depicting

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these lives.

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00:18:59,750 --> 00:19:03,051
No pain.
No shit.

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I would say my biggest hope
for this series

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is that it shines a light

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00:20:21,047 --> 00:20:23,414
on a time in America

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that people don't really think
too much about.

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Potente: We live in
the year 2012,

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and we think, "we're the shit,"
we think this is it...

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100 years from now,

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00:20:34,627 --> 00:20:36,159
people will look back
and be like,

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00:20:36,161 --> 00:20:37,728
"oh, my God, cute,
they had iPhones! Ha-ha!"

422
00:20:37,730 --> 00:20:39,162
You know what I mean?

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00:20:39,164 --> 00:20:43,433
And people back in the day
probably felt very modern, too.

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Wolynetz: People don't think
about history very much anymore,

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they don't think about how we
got to where we are.

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For the most part, I think
audiences might be able to

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00:20:50,942 --> 00:20:53,776
take away some idea of how their
current urban landscape

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came into being.

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00:20:55,780 --> 00:20:59,448
The five points, although it
doesn't exist anymore

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as a specific intersection,
still lives on

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00:21:02,653 --> 00:21:05,787
in history and imagination.

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00:21:05,789 --> 00:21:08,389
And as William Faulkner
taught us,

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00:21:08,391 --> 00:21:11,559
the past isn't dead,
it isn't even past.

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00:21:18,034 --> 00:21:22,771
I guess two words
for "copper" would be...

435
00:21:24,206 --> 00:21:26,675
Uh...
That's a good question.

436
00:21:26,677 --> 00:21:30,245
Can I get three?

437
00:21:30,247 --> 00:21:32,781
That's a really
interesting question.

438
00:21:32,783 --> 00:21:34,183
Well, "city at war," rather...

439
00:21:34,185 --> 00:21:36,251
you said "two words," and I
couldn't make it two words,

440
00:21:36,253 --> 00:21:37,920
so I was thinking
about this all night,

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00:21:37,922 --> 00:21:40,122
and I was thinking, "how am I
going to do this," so...

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00:21:40,124 --> 00:21:42,291
Honest, explosive.

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"Cops and robbers."

444
00:21:44,162 --> 00:21:46,529
"Cops and robbers"...
that's three words.

445
00:21:46,531 --> 00:21:49,699
Um... I, uh, two words...

446
00:21:49,701 --> 00:21:51,134
What did other people say?

447
00:21:51,136 --> 00:21:52,201
Gritty and real.

448
00:21:52,203 --> 00:21:54,204
"Copper" in two words
for me

449
00:21:54,206 --> 00:21:56,739
would probably be
"sex" and "addiction."

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00:21:56,741 --> 00:22:00,844
"Dirty" and "intriguing."

451
00:22:00,846 --> 00:22:03,146
"Bloody brilliant."

452
00:22:03,148 --> 00:22:07,117
I already gave you two words,
I don't have two more words.

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00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,120
I would describe "copper"
as "mind boggling."

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00:22:10,122 --> 00:22:12,722
"Gritty" and "real."

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00:22:12,724 --> 00:22:15,659
"Raw," "modern."

456
00:22:15,661 --> 00:22:17,294
"Rich and poor."

457
00:22:17,296 --> 00:22:19,462
"Mystery and extremes."

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00:22:19,464 --> 00:22:20,930
"Dirty justice."

459
00:22:20,932 --> 00:22:22,799
"Fungus."

460
00:22:22,801 --> 00:22:25,302
McClaugherty.

461
00:22:25,304 --> 00:22:28,539
[ Laughing ]

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What do you think? No?

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