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It's like
a trail of victims
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as you were walking
into the house.
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We were thinking
that this guy
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was just a cold-hearted killer.
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For those
most affected by a homicide...
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I just can't even begin
to put into words
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how much life has changed.
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The first 48
is just the beginning.
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There's the suspect.
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These three murders
were committed
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within six minutes.
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This crime was not random.
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This is the story
of the fight for justice...
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My client was in fear
he would be killed.
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He could say anything.
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In the weeks,
months, and years...
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The defense only has
to convince one person
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of their story, and we lose.
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After the first 48.
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I'd always been
interested in policing
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ever since I was a young kid.
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As soon as I started,
I just fell in love with it.
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I was the investigator on call.
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When I heard triple homicide,
I was very shocked.
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They don't happen
very often anywhere,
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you know, especially
in Gwinnett County.
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You know, you get the chills.
Body temperature goes up.
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It's my first triple.
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we know that two of them
are still at the house,
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and the third one
ended up not making it
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on the way to the hospital.
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The victim at the hospital
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is a 45-year-old Black male.
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He suffered three bullet
wounds to the chest
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and was shot once in
the back, shoulder, and leg.
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When Loomis and I pulled up,
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there are so many things that
are running through your head
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at that time.
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Victim was sitting
kind of propped up,
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leaning against the door.
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There's two dead bodies
in the house.
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The homeowner?
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He was inside the house.
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Robert Caverly.
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64-year-old Robert Caverly,
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known as Bob, worked as
a maintenance engineer.
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He is survived by his mother
and three brothers.
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So the guy in the garage,
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we have no clue who he is.
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The second victim, we didn't
have any identification on him.
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It could be the shooter.
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Yeah.
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We didn't know
where the suspect was.
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It increases your stress level.
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You never know if he's gonna
go keep on killing after that.
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So we called the K-9 unit out.
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Any available means
at our department
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to find this person,
they're willing to provide it.
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Air units
join the search using
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thermal imaging cameras
that can track body heat.
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Sounds good.
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Oh.
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We saw a 9-millimeter pistol
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that had been dropped in the
grass that had blood on it.
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There was a car door open.
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We knew something had
taken place outside.
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We're trying
to process all this.
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Your senses are so heightened
because you're just
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trying not to miss anything.
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As we're walking
in the garage,
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the second victim,
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he's just laying
on the floor in the corner.
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Yeah, I see it.
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He looks like a younger
white male, maybe 20s.
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And there were some glasses,
but they were broken
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right there on the steps.
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The victim in the
garage was shot four times,
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once in his head and back
and twice in his legs.
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The team finds
14 .40 caliber casings
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at the scene.
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I don't know.
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In the living room...
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He was like that
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with the pooling of the blood.
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The homeowner,
Bob, has one gunshot wound
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to his chest
and one to his arm.
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There's a shell casing.
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Both casings
are 9-millimeter.
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Bob was an older man.
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It appeared he was shot
either coming down the stairs
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and/or while he was trying
to get out the front door.
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You know, at this point,
we were thinking
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that this guy was just
a cold-hearted killer.
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Like he was dead set
on looking for something,
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because it's like
a trail of victims
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as you were walking
into the house.
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Upstairs...
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As we were going
through the residence,
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we located a child's bedroom.
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I did it myself.
OK.
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And they never
had seen this young child,
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so we were very concerned.
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Worst-case scenario is
whoever committed
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the three homicides
took the child with them
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that we possibly have
a kidnapping that occurred.
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Then...
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Homeowner here,
directly to the left.
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He said the Bob guy
had just gotten a roommate.
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Maybe a few months ago
or earlier this year.
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There was a kid--
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Black girl was with a kid?
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Yeah, and then a female.
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So it wasn't Bob's kid?
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No, no.
- Yeah.
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So we reached out to
the Gwinnett School Police
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to try and find out,
hey, are there any students
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that live at this house?
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That way we could
find some kind of--
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you know, the name of the kid
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and also if there's
an emergency contact.
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There was a huge sense of
urgency to locate the child.
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If we did have
a kidnap scenario,
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that changes up
absolutely everything.
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Two hours in,
as officers search
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for the child...
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The dog was able
to pick up a scent.
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And then, just one
block from the crime scene...
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This discovery,
it's a big deal.
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Having narcotics in the bag,
having additional guns,
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it shows that
there's likely a motive
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behind why this person
had come here
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and committed these crimes.
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But it also makes you wonder,
what's his end game?
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Air One checked the swamp.
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They've got no heat,
so there's--
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I have nowhere to redeploy
to try anything.
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We're all pretty tense.
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The worst thing that
could happen in this case,
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you know, having the killer
on the loose,
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is that he could go
and do more home invasions
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and ultimately
hurt more people.
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Three and a half hours in...
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Hey, Lieutenant Bozeman's
got the number
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for the five-year-old's mom.
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The school police
were able to tell us
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who was the guardian
of the child.
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She's in a hotel in Norcross.
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The woman is
the fiancée of the victim
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who died at the hospital.
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Hey, this is Corporal Loomis
with Gwinnett Police.
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How are you?
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We were trying
to get in touch with you
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just to make sure you're OK.
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And were you here earlier
today at all?
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She says she left
the house two days ago
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after a fight with her fiancé.
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OK.
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Loomis asks her
about the missing child.
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We're just curious,
is he with you?
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We were all real relieved.
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The child was
with one of her relatives,
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so that was a lot of weight
off our shoulders.
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Who else was here at
the house who wore glasses?
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33-year-old Steven Finch
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worked as a filleter for
a local seafood company.
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He leaves behind his parents,
two sisters, and two brothers.
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She says
she spoke with her fiancé
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on the phone a few hours ago,
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and he was hanging out
with Steven.
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Did they say what
they were gonna do today?
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Um, it was bad.
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OK? I'm sorry.
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He--he passed away.
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I'll be there soon, OK?
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She hung up.
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It's tough.
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It's hard to not get emotional
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because it's almost like
you're there with them,
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because you can just feel their
emotions through the phone.
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Four hours in...
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Are you Jennifer?
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Loomis and Corporal Smith
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meet the fiancée of the victim
who died at the hospital.
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We were trying to learn
about the other victims
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so we could figure out
if they had
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any enemies or
any relationships
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with family members
that were going sour,
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anything like that whatsoever.
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When was the last time
you were at the house?
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Family of Steven
and the family of Bob
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were kind of bewildered
how this even occurred.
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When you lose a loved one
in a traumatic situation
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where you don't have any time
to prepare, there's no goodbye,
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it's just a sudden tearing of
this person out of your life.
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Jessica Gatlin,
Steven Finch's sister,
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shared some of his drawings
that he did,
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which are just
kind of incredible.
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He was a very artistic,
musically inclined person.
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He was her best friend.
They grew up together.
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He loved his family dearly,
just like Bob.
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Bob was the kind of guy
that if you needed him,
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he was gonna be there.
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That house was the location
where everything took place.
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He took people in that
needed a place to stay.
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He met the first victim.
He took him in.
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They are not just a body
that's left behind.
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They are also a brother,
a son, a friend, a neighbor.
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Their lives mattered.
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What's his name?
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Four hours after
the shooting deaths of Bob,
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Steven,
and the first victim...
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As we're talking to her,
she says she thinks
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she may know who's involved
with this.
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She said that her boyfriend
was involved with some drugs.
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She says Justin
thought her fiancé
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had set his brother up.
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So we were able to
look up that police call,
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and we figured out who
this Justin's brother was.
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And then we were able
to figure out that Justin
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is actually Justice Lusk.
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This is Justin?
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OK.
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She identifies 21-year-old
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Justice Lusk as the man
she knows as Justin.
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Justice works in landscaping.
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He has no prior convictions.
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That gave us
our first lead in the case
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on who to go look for.
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But just because
someone gives you a name
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doesn't give you
enough probable cause
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to just go arrest them.
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We're gonna try and find where
this person is right now
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so we can try
and backtrack his movement
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and put them at the scene.
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So Mellow on scene
says they were able to access
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the Ring camera
across the street.
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All right, let's go.
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It's amazing
the smallest things
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that could give you hope
in a case.
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Loomis and I,
we were both trying
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to get the same information
at the same time,
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to find out
who the suspect was.
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There was quite a few
doorbell cams
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in the cul-de-sac down there.
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And you could tell one of them
had a very good view.
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You want to
come watch this video?
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I got it pulled up.
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There's the suspect.
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Camry drops him off.
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He's wearing
sweatpants and, like,
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a bluish or grayish hoodie.
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It wasn't like a scream.
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It wasn't like, "Who are you?"
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It was, you know,
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"Don't come in here
starting that."
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That let me know, hey,
these people knew each other.
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Car leaves.
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Most likely an Uber.
259
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He gets shot.
260
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You can see him run out.
261
00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,666
And it caught
the first victim
262
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running out of the garage
to the neighbor's house
263
00:16:15,458 --> 00:16:17,208
where he collapsed.
264
00:16:24,542 --> 00:16:26,208
The other car comes back.
265
00:16:33,083 --> 00:16:34,416
More gunfire.
266
00:16:36,083 --> 00:16:37,624
He takes off.
267
00:16:37,625 --> 00:16:40,333
I would assume
the suspect called for a ride.
268
00:16:40,458 --> 00:16:42,792
His driver freaked out
and took off.
269
00:16:44,458 --> 00:16:47,167
Shortly after a large
volley of gunshots,
270
00:16:47,292 --> 00:16:48,708
you see the suspect emerge
271
00:16:48,833 --> 00:16:50,750
from the house
carrying a backpack
272
00:16:50,917 --> 00:16:52,417
and a blanket
stuffed with stuff.
273
00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,208
And he tries to get into
another rideshare
274
00:16:59,333 --> 00:17:01,707
that was for
another neighbor's house.
275
00:17:01,708 --> 00:17:04,958
Then he takes off
in-between these two houses.
276
00:17:05,083 --> 00:17:07,208
Unfortunately,
we couldn't catch
277
00:17:07,375 --> 00:17:09,542
any faces of the suspect.
278
00:17:09,667 --> 00:17:11,708
The visual was too far away.
279
00:17:11,833 --> 00:17:13,583
I think we're really close.
280
00:17:13,708 --> 00:17:16,917
So the next thing
we figured we needed to do was
281
00:17:17,042 --> 00:17:19,542
an urgent request
to Uber and Lyft
282
00:17:19,667 --> 00:17:22,041
to try and figure out
if they had someone
283
00:17:22,042 --> 00:17:23,541
who dropped someone off
in this cul-de-sac
284
00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:24,875
at this time.
285
00:17:28,917 --> 00:17:30,874
Seven hours in...
286
00:17:32,125 --> 00:17:33,542
Hello?
287
00:17:41,917 --> 00:17:43,167
All right.
288
00:17:49,208 --> 00:17:50,791
I got the residence
he was picked up at
289
00:17:50,792 --> 00:17:53,791
which matches back
to his family's residence.
290
00:17:53,792 --> 00:17:55,042
So we knew exactly who it was.
291
00:17:59,208 --> 00:18:01,416
I love it. Teamwork.
292
00:18:01,417 --> 00:18:03,833
While detectives
head out to begin surveillance
293
00:18:03,958 --> 00:18:06,207
on Justice Lusk's house...
294
00:18:06,208 --> 00:18:09,041
The plan is to get
the Uber driver back.
295
00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:16,874
At that point, I had
a name on who to look at.
296
00:18:16,875 --> 00:18:19,417
So another way to verify
that this was Justice Lusk,
297
00:18:19,542 --> 00:18:22,417
put his driver's license photo
into a photographic lineup,
298
00:18:22,542 --> 00:18:23,999
because you know,
what if someone else
299
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,292
had Justice's phone
300
00:18:25,417 --> 00:18:27,374
and was using
his own Uber account?
301
00:18:27,375 --> 00:18:29,000
So I was hoping
that he could be
302
00:18:29,125 --> 00:18:31,374
another piece for my puzzle.
303
00:18:31,375 --> 00:18:32,832
OK, bud, how you doing?
304
00:18:32,833 --> 00:18:34,458
Good.
305
00:18:42,583 --> 00:18:45,374
Sergeant Richter
shows the driver a map
306
00:18:45,375 --> 00:18:47,917
of the cul-de-sac where
the shooting took place.
307
00:18:48,083 --> 00:18:50,375
Do you remember
this particular customer?
308
00:18:52,333 --> 00:18:53,791
OK, so what I'm gonna do,
I'm gonna show you
309
00:18:53,792 --> 00:18:55,416
a group of six photographs, OK?
310
00:18:55,417 --> 00:18:56,874
Basically,
look at the pictures.
311
00:18:56,875 --> 00:18:59,417
If you recognize somebody,
tell me which one and why.
312
00:19:28,208 --> 00:19:30,000
He picked it.
313
00:19:30,125 --> 00:19:32,083
He positively
identified Justice Lusk
314
00:19:32,208 --> 00:19:34,417
in a photo line-up.
315
00:19:34,542 --> 00:19:36,875
OK, do you want
to just circle the number
316
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,833
and initial it?
317
00:19:38,958 --> 00:19:40,667
At that point, I got enough
for probable cause
318
00:19:40,833 --> 00:19:42,207
to take warrants on him.
319
00:19:42,208 --> 00:19:46,833
I felt very confident that
Justice was the person
320
00:19:46,958 --> 00:19:48,207
who committed all these crimes.
321
00:19:50,708 --> 00:19:52,249
You're gonna
have to do a search warrant
322
00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:54,582
at that house.
Yeah.
323
00:19:54,583 --> 00:19:56,333
I mean, it would be nice
to get him off
324
00:19:56,458 --> 00:19:58,083
the streets tonight.
325
00:19:58,208 --> 00:20:00,374
We had Major Restrepo
and Corporal Mellow
326
00:20:00,375 --> 00:20:02,042
getting ready to spin up
their SWAT team
327
00:20:02,208 --> 00:20:04,625
and do a search warrant
on Lusk's address.
328
00:20:04,750 --> 00:20:06,332
As the team prepares
329
00:20:06,333 --> 00:20:07,792
to hit Justice's house...
330
00:20:11,250 --> 00:20:14,375
There's a call
from a neighboring house
331
00:20:14,542 --> 00:20:16,583
around the corner
from the incident location.
332
00:20:45,708 --> 00:20:48,583
The officer pulls
over the suspicious vehicle.
333
00:20:57,208 --> 00:20:58,416
Yes, sir.
334
00:20:58,417 --> 00:21:00,333
Your suspect's 1095.
335
00:21:00,458 --> 00:21:03,041
They just stopped him.
I said, who's in the car?
336
00:21:03,042 --> 00:21:04,707
He says Justice.
337
00:21:04,708 --> 00:21:07,249
So I said,
put him in handcuffs.
338
00:21:07,250 --> 00:21:10,333
Man, it was a huge sense
of relief.
339
00:21:10,458 --> 00:21:13,416
We couldn't believe
that he came back.
340
00:21:13,417 --> 00:21:15,667
You know, looking back,
we should have known
341
00:21:15,792 --> 00:21:18,833
that maybe he's gonna come back
for this stuff he had hid.
342
00:21:18,958 --> 00:21:21,708
But at the time when you have
all this stuff going on
343
00:21:21,833 --> 00:21:23,874
in your head
and have so much to do,
344
00:21:23,875 --> 00:21:26,500
the simplest, littlest thing
you may just overlook.
345
00:21:26,667 --> 00:21:29,332
- Cheers.
- Cheers. Good work.
346
00:21:33,708 --> 00:21:37,332
11 hours
into the investigation...
347
00:21:40,542 --> 00:21:42,667
Justice, how you doing?
348
00:21:42,792 --> 00:21:45,875
Our goal is to get him
to talk to us
349
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,667
and see if we can figure out
why he committed these crimes.
350
00:21:49,792 --> 00:21:53,374
So the reason why
they saw your car
351
00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:55,916
and came about is some people
352
00:21:55,917 --> 00:21:58,082
saw you walking
behind their house.
353
00:22:01,583 --> 00:22:03,833
And what were you
looking for back there?
354
00:22:19,042 --> 00:22:20,667
Where's your friend live?
355
00:22:22,583 --> 00:22:23,916
We really took our time.
356
00:22:23,917 --> 00:22:25,208
We didn't wanna go
in there right away
357
00:22:25,333 --> 00:22:26,750
and just go at him.
358
00:22:26,875 --> 00:22:28,542
We wanted him to get real
comfortable with himself.
359
00:22:28,708 --> 00:22:31,667
We wanted to know
how he knows these people,
360
00:22:31,792 --> 00:22:34,874
where he was earlier,
where he came from,
361
00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:38,833
and just kind of walk him
right into that garage.
362
00:22:38,958 --> 00:22:42,832
You scared some people
walking behind their houses.
363
00:22:42,833 --> 00:22:45,875
Why wouldn't you just
drive the car around?
364
00:22:57,083 --> 00:22:58,583
Mm-hmm.
365
00:23:05,542 --> 00:23:07,208
Justice claims he was trying
366
00:23:07,333 --> 00:23:09,124
to get to the victim's house,
367
00:23:09,125 --> 00:23:11,833
where he had left a gun
several days ago.
368
00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:13,583
What kind of gun is it?
369
00:23:16,625 --> 00:23:18,375
When was the last time
you shot a gun?
370
00:23:22,833 --> 00:23:25,707
His vibes were almost,
like, relaxed.
371
00:23:25,708 --> 00:23:27,000
Like he didn't really care
that he was there.
372
00:23:27,125 --> 00:23:29,750
Why were you going this late
to get that stuff?
373
00:23:36,542 --> 00:23:38,541
He was acting
like a child the way
374
00:23:38,542 --> 00:23:40,167
he was answering questions,
his demeanor.
375
00:23:40,292 --> 00:23:44,416
Like, just--just didn't think
he did anything serious.
376
00:23:44,417 --> 00:23:45,875
He was completely calm.
377
00:23:47,458 --> 00:23:49,250
What about this afternoon?
378
00:23:49,375 --> 00:23:50,750
Were you there this afternoon?
379
00:23:54,458 --> 00:23:56,375
How'd you get there today?
380
00:23:57,375 --> 00:23:59,374
Uber?
381
00:23:59,375 --> 00:24:01,542
What happened
when you got there?
382
00:24:04,250 --> 00:24:05,582
OK.
383
00:24:05,583 --> 00:24:07,083
But you walk into the garage?
384
00:24:09,458 --> 00:24:12,000
Yeah, you do.
385
00:24:15,708 --> 00:24:18,249
Of course, Loomis and I
both know that that's a lie.
386
00:24:18,250 --> 00:24:19,916
At that point, we had enough.
387
00:24:19,917 --> 00:24:23,083
We had let Justice tell us,
you know, all the lines of BS.
388
00:24:23,208 --> 00:24:25,416
So at that point, you know,
we're showing them
389
00:24:25,417 --> 00:24:27,124
a couple cards
that we got in our hands.
390
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,083
You know what's amazing
about that cul-de-sac, Justice?
391
00:24:32,208 --> 00:24:35,999
- What?
- All the video cameras.
392
00:24:55,375 --> 00:24:56,583
At that point,
I was, like,
393
00:24:56,708 --> 00:24:58,208
oh, we got him.
You're ours.
394
00:24:58,375 --> 00:25:00,042
His shoulders slumped.
He leaned over.
395
00:25:00,208 --> 00:25:02,374
His eyes were going back
and forth, trying to think
396
00:25:02,375 --> 00:25:04,375
of the next thing to say.
397
00:25:04,542 --> 00:25:07,957
You get out of the
white Toyota Camry Uber,
398
00:25:07,958 --> 00:25:11,957
and you walk into the garage.
399
00:25:11,958 --> 00:25:14,291
And who do you talk to
in the garage?
400
00:25:20,917 --> 00:25:22,500
Justice admits he spoke with
401
00:25:22,667 --> 00:25:26,082
the first victim, the man
who died at the hospital.
402
00:25:26,083 --> 00:25:28,667
What were y'all
arguing about?
403
00:25:33,792 --> 00:25:36,041
I can see how
that would be upsetting.
404
00:25:37,708 --> 00:25:39,541
We're just trying to figure out
why you left your guns
405
00:25:39,542 --> 00:25:40,667
over there initially.
406
00:25:40,792 --> 00:25:42,875
He was providing
information to me.
407
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,582
So as long as
he's gonna keep going,
408
00:25:46,583 --> 00:25:51,374
I'll just be polite and see
if he responds to that.
409
00:26:11,833 --> 00:26:13,457
He claims the first victim
410
00:26:13,458 --> 00:26:16,541
was carrying a 9-millimeter.
411
00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:17,667
OK.
412
00:26:17,792 --> 00:26:20,832
And did you shoot him
because he had a gun?
413
00:26:20,833 --> 00:26:22,542
Or--
414
00:26:34,542 --> 00:26:35,917
That didn't make any sense.
415
00:26:36,042 --> 00:26:38,332
Justice knew this guy.
They had made that arrangement.
416
00:26:38,333 --> 00:26:40,625
I don't know why
he assumed that, you know,
417
00:26:40,792 --> 00:26:43,750
the first victim was gonna
just come up and shoot him.
418
00:26:43,875 --> 00:26:47,333
Is that the black and
silver one in the front yard?
419
00:26:58,125 --> 00:26:59,541
How many times
did you shoot him,
420
00:26:59,542 --> 00:27:01,958
the second guy
that was in the garage?
421
00:27:05,208 --> 00:27:08,041
He admits
shooting the second victim,
422
00:27:08,042 --> 00:27:09,541
Steven Finch.
423
00:27:09,542 --> 00:27:12,250
Which one did you use
to shoot them?
424
00:27:13,708 --> 00:27:16,000
So you go in the house?
425
00:27:17,667 --> 00:27:19,874
OK, is that when Bob,
the old white dude,
426
00:27:19,875 --> 00:27:21,208
is coming down the steps?
427
00:27:26,083 --> 00:27:28,000
How many times
do you shoot him?
428
00:27:31,167 --> 00:27:35,874
It was extremely surprising
that he so easily
429
00:27:35,875 --> 00:27:38,874
confessed to shooting
all three people in the house.
430
00:27:38,875 --> 00:27:41,583
That rarely happens.
431
00:27:41,708 --> 00:27:43,875
You regret what you did?
432
00:27:49,917 --> 00:27:51,374
He didn't say yes or no,
433
00:27:51,375 --> 00:27:53,833
but he had zero remorse.
434
00:27:53,958 --> 00:27:56,249
It appeared
that he did not care
435
00:27:56,250 --> 00:27:58,874
he just took three lives, whatsoever.
436
00:27:58,875 --> 00:28:02,457
All he cared about was
getting his stuff back.
437
00:28:13,875 --> 00:28:17,041
12 hours
into the investigation...
438
00:28:17,042 --> 00:28:19,083
Turn. Put your hands
behind your back.
439
00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:21,000
Justice Lusk
is charged with
440
00:28:21,125 --> 00:28:23,541
three counts each
of felony murder
441
00:28:23,542 --> 00:28:26,125
and aggravated assault.
442
00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:29,750
After the arrest,
it's just the beginning.
443
00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:32,083
The district attorney's
office is the ones
444
00:28:32,208 --> 00:28:34,249
who are gonna prosecute
the case.
445
00:28:39,208 --> 00:28:41,417
We expected
that Justice Lusk's defense
446
00:28:41,542 --> 00:28:43,207
was gonna be self-defense,
447
00:28:43,208 --> 00:28:45,332
and we had to prove
that it wasn't.
448
00:28:45,333 --> 00:28:48,000
It was a triple homicide,
which is pretty horrifying,
449
00:28:48,125 --> 00:28:51,916
and the facts
were quite unusual.
450
00:28:51,917 --> 00:28:55,083
The defendant took an Uber
to the house.
451
00:28:55,208 --> 00:28:59,750
This occurred in the
afternoon, broad daylight.
452
00:28:59,875 --> 00:29:01,916
Those are things that cause
a jury to wonder,
453
00:29:01,917 --> 00:29:03,582
like, well, maybe--
maybe he is innocent.
454
00:29:03,583 --> 00:29:05,207
Maybe this was self-defense
455
00:29:05,208 --> 00:29:07,291
because no one would
commit a murder that way.
456
00:29:09,042 --> 00:29:11,207
And with triple homicide,
457
00:29:11,208 --> 00:29:14,416
we have to prove murder
three times.
458
00:29:14,417 --> 00:29:18,582
I was assigned as co-chair for
the prosecution in this case.
459
00:29:20,042 --> 00:29:21,250
Honestly, when I looked at it,
460
00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:22,542
I didn't know
what to make of it.
461
00:29:22,667 --> 00:29:25,041
It's one guy, three other men.
462
00:29:25,042 --> 00:29:27,917
We didn't know how
this situation happened.
463
00:29:28,042 --> 00:29:30,041
We knew that
we would have to rely
464
00:29:30,042 --> 00:29:31,500
on the Ring camera footage
465
00:29:31,625 --> 00:29:33,082
to map out the timeline
from when
466
00:29:33,083 --> 00:29:34,667
the defendant arrived
and left.
467
00:29:36,417 --> 00:29:39,708
The first gunshot happened
in less than two minutes
468
00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:42,375
after the defendant's arrival.
469
00:29:43,958 --> 00:29:46,250
And then we heard
other gunshots throughout.
470
00:29:46,375 --> 00:29:49,833
These three murders were
committed within six minutes.
471
00:29:49,958 --> 00:29:53,375
You know, that's
a very short period of time.
472
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:57,750
To me,
that means he had a motive.
473
00:29:57,875 --> 00:30:00,208
He went directly there
to commit those crimes.
474
00:30:00,375 --> 00:30:03,917
And there wasn't much time
for anything else.
475
00:30:04,042 --> 00:30:05,833
Unfortunately,
it did not show anything
476
00:30:05,958 --> 00:30:09,082
that happened in the garage
or inside the house.
477
00:30:09,083 --> 00:30:10,500
And that's the hard part.
478
00:30:10,625 --> 00:30:14,041
That side of the story
is left for the defendant.
479
00:30:14,042 --> 00:30:17,541
That puts us at a disadvantage
because he could say anything.
480
00:30:17,542 --> 00:30:19,541
And the defense
only has to convince
481
00:30:19,542 --> 00:30:22,749
one person of their story,
482
00:30:22,750 --> 00:30:25,374
and we have a hung jury,
and we lose.
483
00:30:41,042 --> 00:30:44,125
In regards to self-defense,
you have to establish
484
00:30:44,250 --> 00:30:48,082
factually that
the shooter, Justice,
485
00:30:48,083 --> 00:30:53,125
had no choice, that he was
in fear he would be killed.
486
00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:56,124
I was Justice Lusk's attorney.
487
00:30:57,417 --> 00:30:59,667
Everyone in this country
is entitled
488
00:30:59,792 --> 00:31:03,874
to a vigorous ethical defense.
489
00:31:03,875 --> 00:31:06,292
It's not our job
to get somebody off,
490
00:31:06,417 --> 00:31:08,957
but it is our job
to hold the state
491
00:31:08,958 --> 00:31:11,042
to their burden of proof
beyond a reasonable doubt.
492
00:31:11,167 --> 00:31:12,749
And it's important to me.
493
00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:14,749
He's gotta to know
that I'm working
494
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:17,916
for him and on his behalf.
495
00:31:17,917 --> 00:31:21,207
And in Justice's case,
he's saying,
496
00:31:21,208 --> 00:31:24,167
yeah, I shot,
but I was defending myself.
497
00:31:26,375 --> 00:31:30,708
Nearly four years
after the murders,
498
00:31:30,875 --> 00:31:33,457
the trial begins.
499
00:31:35,375 --> 00:31:38,583
It was crucial for the jury
to see the crime scene
500
00:31:38,708 --> 00:31:41,833
to really get the full picture
of what happened in that garage
501
00:31:41,958 --> 00:31:43,874
and also in the home.
502
00:31:43,875 --> 00:31:46,500
So we called
the crime scene investigator.
503
00:31:46,667 --> 00:31:51,082
She collected evidence via
photograph from the scene.
504
00:31:51,083 --> 00:31:55,541
She collected tangible
evidence from the yard.
505
00:31:55,542 --> 00:31:57,708
We were trying to show
the jury that this crime
506
00:31:57,875 --> 00:32:00,707
was not random,
that it was planned
507
00:32:00,708 --> 00:32:02,250
and that it was
thought through.
508
00:32:02,375 --> 00:32:04,500
The investigator
states seven guns
509
00:32:04,625 --> 00:32:06,249
were recovered in total.
510
00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:10,707
And there's one
the defense homes in on.
511
00:32:10,708 --> 00:32:12,083
The bloodied gun
found outside
512
00:32:12,208 --> 00:32:14,541
was the crux of his case.
513
00:32:14,542 --> 00:32:16,874
Because there was a round
chambered inside of it,
514
00:32:16,875 --> 00:32:19,500
and there was blood located
on the side of the weapon,
515
00:32:19,625 --> 00:32:23,000
he tried to argue that
it belonged to a victim.
516
00:32:23,167 --> 00:32:26,542
A gun found
on scene is relevant,
517
00:32:26,708 --> 00:32:29,667
especially if it's not
the alleged perpetrator's gun,
518
00:32:29,792 --> 00:32:33,874
because that implies that
the people in that household
519
00:32:33,875 --> 00:32:36,417
or who were there at the time
were armed.
520
00:32:36,542 --> 00:32:39,167
With a round in the chamber
being loaded,
521
00:32:39,333 --> 00:32:43,000
that's obviously a clear,
present threat to Justice.
522
00:32:43,167 --> 00:32:46,833
There is some argument
for it belonging to a victim.
523
00:32:46,958 --> 00:32:50,291
But where the gun
was located in the yard,
524
00:32:50,292 --> 00:32:52,375
no victim ever walks
in that direction.
525
00:32:52,542 --> 00:32:54,250
So when you look
on the Ring cameras
526
00:32:54,375 --> 00:32:57,291
from when Justice Lusk
arrives to when he leaves,
527
00:32:57,292 --> 00:33:00,416
he's the only person that
ever walks in that direction.
528
00:33:00,417 --> 00:33:02,375
And that is only
their statement
529
00:33:02,542 --> 00:33:05,541
that that gun belonged
to one of our victims.
530
00:33:05,542 --> 00:33:07,791
There was is no evidence
that it did.
531
00:33:11,125 --> 00:33:14,207
The state
calls its final witness.
532
00:33:14,208 --> 00:33:18,875
The medical examiner's
testimony and the autopsies
533
00:33:19,042 --> 00:33:21,541
completely contradict
Justice Lusk's position
534
00:33:21,542 --> 00:33:24,707
that he was facing
some type of imminent threat.
535
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:29,542
So with victim one,
536
00:33:29,667 --> 00:33:34,249
there were six
gunshot wounds or grazes.
537
00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:36,249
The positioning of the grazes
are interesting
538
00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:39,042
because his graze
is across the chest.
539
00:33:39,208 --> 00:33:43,333
And what Dr. Terry said was
that it looks like that graze
540
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:46,000
was connected to the
entry wound from his shoulder,
541
00:33:46,125 --> 00:33:49,166
meaning that he was shot
several times
542
00:33:49,167 --> 00:33:52,249
while being in
a lower position.
543
00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:56,167
Mr. Steven Finch,
in the way Steven was found,
544
00:33:56,333 --> 00:33:58,082
it looked like
he was sitting in a chair.
545
00:33:58,083 --> 00:34:00,167
And then he gets shot
in the knee.
546
00:34:00,333 --> 00:34:02,666
He falls over
right in that doorway,
547
00:34:02,667 --> 00:34:05,916
and then Justice Lusk
actually walks over him
548
00:34:05,917 --> 00:34:07,750
and shoots him in the head.
549
00:34:07,875 --> 00:34:09,833
He was shot in
the back of his head,
550
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,250
facing away from the shooter.
551
00:34:12,375 --> 00:34:15,000
That, to me, is indicative
that he was not
552
00:34:15,167 --> 00:34:17,374
being aggressive towards him.
553
00:34:17,375 --> 00:34:19,167
Of course
the state is gonna argue
554
00:34:19,292 --> 00:34:22,457
that that person
was turning away.
555
00:34:22,458 --> 00:34:24,957
But the counterargument is
still there that that person
556
00:34:24,958 --> 00:34:26,707
still may have been armed.
557
00:34:26,708 --> 00:34:30,375
Still doesn't mean that
a split second prior
558
00:34:30,542 --> 00:34:33,167
to being shot, they didn't
pose a threat or danger
559
00:34:33,333 --> 00:34:35,374
to the person who shot them.
560
00:34:35,375 --> 00:34:36,833
And during cross,
561
00:34:36,958 --> 00:34:40,875
the defense focuses on another
detail in the ME's report.
562
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,167
All three of
the decedent's cases,
563
00:34:44,292 --> 00:34:47,583
they all had either cocaine,
cocaine metabolites,
564
00:34:47,708 --> 00:34:51,082
THC, or amphetamines,
or methamphetamine
565
00:34:51,083 --> 00:34:52,917
in their system.
566
00:34:53,042 --> 00:34:54,750
That could have
jacked them up,
567
00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:56,332
made them aggressive.
568
00:34:56,333 --> 00:34:59,041
I think the defense
wants to bring this up
569
00:34:59,042 --> 00:35:01,375
because they want to muddy
any sympathy
570
00:35:01,542 --> 00:35:05,000
that the jurors could have
for the victims.
571
00:35:05,125 --> 00:35:06,667
In the perfect world,
572
00:35:06,792 --> 00:35:08,124
it shouldn't matter
573
00:35:08,125 --> 00:35:10,291
whether they're perfect people
or not.
574
00:35:10,292 --> 00:35:13,167
But we know this isn't
a perfect world.
575
00:35:13,292 --> 00:35:15,291
What these reports don't show
576
00:35:15,292 --> 00:35:16,999
is when these drugs
were ingested.
577
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,874
Could have been days prior.
578
00:35:18,875 --> 00:35:20,458
These are blood screens.
579
00:35:20,583 --> 00:35:24,249
We don't know that those drugs
had any effect on them at all.
580
00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:28,082
And if Justice Lusk decided
to stay at his own home
581
00:35:28,083 --> 00:35:29,832
and not enter
Robert Caverly's home,
582
00:35:29,833 --> 00:35:32,167
this wouldn't have happened.
583
00:35:32,292 --> 00:35:34,250
The prosecution rests,
584
00:35:34,375 --> 00:35:37,958
and the defense calls
its sole witness to the stand.
585
00:35:38,083 --> 00:35:40,167
Justice wanted to be heard.
586
00:35:40,292 --> 00:35:43,124
I said, and you've
got a story to tell.
587
00:35:43,125 --> 00:35:46,000
They need to hear
how frightened you were,
588
00:35:46,125 --> 00:35:49,249
that you thought
it was your life at stake.
589
00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:51,707
If he did a good job,
maybe you'd have one,
590
00:35:51,708 --> 00:35:53,667
maybe two people
who would give him
591
00:35:53,833 --> 00:35:55,957
the benefit of the doubt.
592
00:35:55,958 --> 00:35:57,957
We didn't need
to convince all 12.
593
00:35:57,958 --> 00:35:59,417
Just one.
594
00:36:13,583 --> 00:36:16,042
Justice wanted to get
his story out there.
595
00:36:16,167 --> 00:36:18,000
I said, get up there.
596
00:36:18,167 --> 00:36:20,625
The jury
who is deciding your fate
597
00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:22,541
needs to hear from you.
598
00:36:22,542 --> 00:36:26,874
Justice Lusk takes the stand.
599
00:36:26,875 --> 00:36:30,457
Justice
went over there to retrieve
600
00:36:30,458 --> 00:36:34,916
his gun that was collateral
for purported loan
601
00:36:34,917 --> 00:36:36,457
with decedent number one.
602
00:36:36,458 --> 00:36:40,207
And so he came in contact
with decedent number one,
603
00:36:40,208 --> 00:36:42,457
and decedent number two
was close by.
604
00:36:42,458 --> 00:36:44,458
He felt threatened
by both of them.
605
00:36:46,333 --> 00:36:50,958
So he did what he felt
justified that he had to do,
606
00:36:51,083 --> 00:36:54,082
because he felt
his life was in jeopardy.
607
00:36:56,125 --> 00:36:59,333
His thought process
was to go in the house
608
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:02,417
and retrieve what he felt
was his property
609
00:37:02,542 --> 00:37:05,458
when he encountered
decedent number three.
610
00:37:05,583 --> 00:37:08,874
And again, same situation.
611
00:37:08,875 --> 00:37:11,000
He shot
his way through the house
612
00:37:11,125 --> 00:37:13,625
and then tried to assert
that Robert Caverly
613
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:16,082
was the aggressor and trying
to kill him the entire time,
614
00:37:16,083 --> 00:37:17,916
which was
absolutely ridiculous.
615
00:37:20,208 --> 00:37:22,208
You crossed paths with Bob,
616
00:37:22,375 --> 00:37:25,250
and you're going upstairs.
He's coming downstairs.
617
00:37:25,375 --> 00:37:27,207
He then goes into garage,
618
00:37:27,208 --> 00:37:29,667
finds one dead body,
a pool of blood
619
00:37:29,792 --> 00:37:32,582
where the other victim
had been.
620
00:37:32,583 --> 00:37:35,792
Instead of running
and getting out of there,
621
00:37:35,958 --> 00:37:39,250
he's gonna pick up the gun
and come in after you?
622
00:37:39,375 --> 00:37:41,042
You manage to kill him,
623
00:37:41,167 --> 00:37:43,208
and then you stop
to pick up the gun
624
00:37:43,375 --> 00:37:46,042
and run outside and drop it.
625
00:37:46,167 --> 00:37:50,457
That's a very convoluted story
and just defies common sense.
626
00:37:50,458 --> 00:37:52,375
He wasn't there to burglarize.
627
00:37:52,542 --> 00:37:54,333
He was there to get
his property back,
628
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,125
and he defended himself.
629
00:37:57,250 --> 00:37:58,582
The defendant argued
630
00:37:58,583 --> 00:38:01,582
that he was justified
to use self-defense
631
00:38:01,583 --> 00:38:03,541
on three different occasions
632
00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:06,375
as he entered
someone's home unlawfully.
633
00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:09,749
Sims begins
her cross-examination.
634
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:11,000
I just knew I need to
635
00:38:11,167 --> 00:38:12,750
hammer him with the lies,
636
00:38:12,875 --> 00:38:15,375
let the jury see
that he's not credible.
637
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:17,417
On the stand,
he said the gun was
638
00:38:17,542 --> 00:38:20,832
pulled out and pointed at him,
which would be a threat.
639
00:38:20,833 --> 00:38:23,250
That's not what he
originally told the police.
640
00:38:27,875 --> 00:38:31,542
And I had to correct him
and say you felt threatened.
641
00:38:31,708 --> 00:38:34,333
So he cleaned up for trial,
642
00:38:34,458 --> 00:38:37,000
how he could lay
the proper grounds
643
00:38:37,167 --> 00:38:39,999
for a self-defense argument.
644
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,916
You tie that in with
the fact that the defendant
645
00:38:42,917 --> 00:38:44,792
himself had no injuries.
646
00:38:44,917 --> 00:38:48,707
He even admitted that
he was never actually shot at.
647
00:38:48,708 --> 00:38:52,542
So you want us to believe
that the victim had this gun
648
00:38:52,667 --> 00:38:55,707
pointed at you
and that you were able
649
00:38:55,708 --> 00:38:58,417
to get your gun out
and fire off five rounds
650
00:38:58,542 --> 00:39:02,999
at our victim, and
he never fired back at you?
651
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
So when you felt threatened,
why didn't you leave?
652
00:39:06,125 --> 00:39:10,791
And he answered, because
I came here to get my guns.
653
00:39:10,792 --> 00:39:12,917
OK, so now that
you've had to kill someone,
654
00:39:13,042 --> 00:39:14,541
why didn't you leave?
655
00:39:14,542 --> 00:39:16,749
And he's responding,
I was there for my guns.
656
00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:19,707
I'm going to leave
with my guns.
657
00:39:19,708 --> 00:39:21,291
We wanted to make it clear
658
00:39:21,292 --> 00:39:23,000
that nothing
was gonna stop you.
659
00:39:23,167 --> 00:39:25,249
No matter what you had to do,
660
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:27,832
you were there
to get your gun.
661
00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:32,791
It shows something different
about his nature and who he is.
662
00:39:35,708 --> 00:39:39,500
The jury
leaves to deliberate.
663
00:39:39,667 --> 00:39:41,958
Waiting for the verdict
is almost
664
00:39:42,125 --> 00:39:44,541
the worst part of the trial.
665
00:39:44,542 --> 00:39:47,082
You have no idea
what they're thinking.
666
00:39:49,667 --> 00:39:52,457
For families, I think
it's even more difficult,
667
00:39:52,458 --> 00:39:54,291
especially when
hearing the evidence,
668
00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:55,666
and they feel like it's clear.
669
00:39:57,375 --> 00:39:59,499
Later that afternoon...
670
00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:01,332
The only part that's worse
671
00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:03,375
than waiting for them
to come back is
672
00:40:03,542 --> 00:40:05,749
when they actually tell us,
we have a verdict.
673
00:40:08,083 --> 00:40:10,707
You don't want to be
the one responsible
674
00:40:10,708 --> 00:40:12,832
for letting a murderer go.
675
00:40:15,708 --> 00:40:17,250
The defendant was found guilty
676
00:40:17,375 --> 00:40:19,333
on all counts.
677
00:40:30,875 --> 00:40:35,208
I think this case is a great
example of the system working.
678
00:40:35,333 --> 00:40:36,458
He was given a fair trial.
679
00:40:36,625 --> 00:40:38,499
He was given a fantastic
defense attorney.
680
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:39,917
He was able to tell his story.
681
00:40:40,042 --> 00:40:43,125
And, ultimately, a jury of
his peers made the decision,
682
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:45,333
and the judge enforced it.
683
00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:47,874
The families
were extremely relieved,
684
00:40:47,875 --> 00:40:52,708
but there was still
so much unresolved
685
00:40:52,875 --> 00:40:57,333
because
they never did hear why.
686
00:40:59,750 --> 00:41:02,917
I've tried to set
expectations with them
687
00:41:03,042 --> 00:41:06,625
to understand,
nothing about this process
688
00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:10,249
is going to bring
your loved one back.
689
00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:12,750
You still lost this person.
690
00:41:12,875 --> 00:41:17,500
Speak to a therapist,
lean on your loved ones.
691
00:41:17,667 --> 00:41:21,708
Don't let the court process
be your only source of healing.
692
00:41:25,875 --> 00:41:28,707
Steven was my younger brother.
693
00:41:28,708 --> 00:41:32,874
Every moment of our life
growing up was spent together.
694
00:41:32,875 --> 00:41:35,749
I have my good days
and my bad days
695
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:37,833
when it comes
to dealing with it.
696
00:41:46,208 --> 00:41:47,792
- Come in.
- Yes, ma'am.
697
00:41:47,958 --> 00:41:49,374
Sharing their grief...
698
00:41:49,375 --> 00:41:51,208
Jessica,
may I give you a hug?
699
00:41:51,375 --> 00:41:53,458
Steven's sister Jessica
700
00:41:53,583 --> 00:41:56,582
and Bob's mother, Mary,
have become friends.
701
00:41:56,583 --> 00:41:59,417
We have something
that binds us together now.
702
00:41:59,542 --> 00:42:02,332
Yes, ma'am.
They were special people.
703
00:42:02,333 --> 00:42:03,583
Yes.
704
00:42:03,708 --> 00:42:06,208
We learned after Steven passed,
705
00:42:06,375 --> 00:42:08,749
there was a guy at his funeral,
706
00:42:08,750 --> 00:42:11,000
and he said that
my brother had found him
707
00:42:11,125 --> 00:42:14,749
sleeping up under a bridge,
and it was cold.
708
00:42:14,750 --> 00:42:15,917
And Steven said, come on,
709
00:42:16,042 --> 00:42:17,791
you're gonna go home
with me tonight.
710
00:42:17,792 --> 00:42:20,083
And Steven gave him a place
to stay for the night.
711
00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:21,707
So they were a lot alike.
712
00:42:21,708 --> 00:42:23,916
Yes.
713
00:42:23,917 --> 00:42:26,750
I just can't even begin
to put into words
714
00:42:26,875 --> 00:42:30,167
how much life has changed.
715
00:42:31,417 --> 00:42:33,042
It changes you forever.