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I want to get a good picture,

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some more pictures.

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This is Carey's room, her bed.

4
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This is the birthday girl's mattress
and everything else.

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She's even got a TV

6
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in her room.

7
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Ain't she lucky?

8
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That's my sister.

9
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The birthday girl.

10
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Ain't she beautiful?

11
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And here is her brother.

12
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Nick.

13
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The thought of what somebody
could have done to him...

14
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It gives you nightmares.

15
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It really does.

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His disappearance never made the news.

17
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It wasn't news to them,

18
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it was just news to us.

19
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It came to the point where, you know,
you're not gonna find him alive,

20
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but you just want to find what happened to him.

21
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They called me at work when I wasn't there

22
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and they wrote a message and said,
"Someone from Spain has Nicholas."

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He wants to come home.

24
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My mom called me.

25
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I was at work.

26
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And she says, "Sitting down?

27
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You're not going to believe this."

28
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Course. It was mysterious,

29
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it was er...exciting,

30
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it was worrisome,

31
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er, it was all mixed emotions, you know?

32
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Ecstatic.

33
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Bewildered.

34
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You know, Spain!

35
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Isn't that like across the country?

36
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Um, how did he get there?

37
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You want...
you have like a hundred thousand questions

38
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that you want answered immediately.

39
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I felt wonderful,

40
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you know, excited.

41
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You wanna see him, touch him,
you know what I mean?

42
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And you want it all to happen now.

43
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From as long as I remember,
I wanted to be someone else.

44
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Someone who was acceptable.

45
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The most important thing for me and what
I learned very fast was to be convincing.

46
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When the police arrive,

47
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I have immediately to put into their mind

48
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they have a kid in front of them, not an adult.

49
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So it was very important for me
to behave like one.

50
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They would see me with...
in a big coat with younger clothes.

51
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And they would see a kid with a hat,
which is very low in the eyes.

52
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They couldn't see my eyes.

53
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I wanted to provoke on them a sense of guilt...

54
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..of being adults and to be close to a kid
which is dead scared.

55
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When you see a kid that,
you know, got nervous reflexes,

56
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that you can't touch them,
you can't approach them,

57
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then you understand, you understand
that something is wrong.

58
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I wasn't the one who was telling them
I've been sexually abused.

59
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I made them ask me that by my attitude,

60
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by my way of doing things.

61
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They were the one thinking about it
and that gave me power.

62
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I didn't speak much.

63
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It's very hard to read a kid
that doesn't speak a word sometime.

64
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If a cop don't know who a kid is
and where he comes from,

65
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he just can't keep him in the police station.

66
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And I knew that eventually they would
have to put me into a children's home...

67
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..and that's all I wanted.

68
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Nobody ever gave a damn about me

69
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and to know that if I change my identity

70
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the reward was eventually to be put in a place

71
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where actually they really cared about me...

72
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then, hell, yeah.
I mean, I was reborn.

73
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I mean... (Laughs) ..I was born again.

74
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Nobody ever gave me a childhood,

75
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because to give a kid a childhood
you need to, to love that kid.

76
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I felt like I belonged there.

77
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They didn't know that I was 23, 23 years old.

78
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I was considered like one of them.

79
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I told him to be home by dinner

80
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and gave him five bucks to go play basketball,

81
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and... he took off.

82
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He called home, asking for a ride, er...

83
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which was probably, I don't know,

84
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he's within a couple of miles from his house

85
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and his mother works late
and sleeps during the day

86
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and his older brother Jason answered the phone.

87
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When I woke up Jason was there and said
that he had called and wanted a ride home,

88
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but Jason didn't want to wake me up,

89
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so told him he had to walk home.

90
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And that's...was the day,
the last time we heard from him.

91
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You spend 24 hours crying, sick, worried,

92
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then you get mad, then you get scared,

93
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and then you try to get empowered.
You know, "OK, what can we do?

94
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We have to do flyers,
we'll do this, we'll..."

95
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You know, so instead of...

96
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you don't cry, you do something positive

97
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and try to work towards, I guess,
a solution of finding him.

98
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I thought somebody offered him
a ride, and he got in the car.

99
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I dunno, I think he would have got in a car
with someone that he didn't know.

100
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What are you looking at?

101
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I could see the worry and the pain
they were going through,

102
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so I always said, you know,
"He's out there," you know.

103
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"He'll resurface," you know.

104
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Unfortunately for me, it was one of
those places which is very rare in Spain

105
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where actually they can't stand
having a kid with no identity card,

106
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er, no proof of who he is.

107
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They wanted absolutely to know who I was,
where do I come from,

108
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erm, they needed to know precise.

109
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"If you don't tell us,
if can't prove us who you are,

110
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I'm gonna have you fingerprinted
and your pictures taken."

111
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I couldn't allow that to happen.

112
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I had to find a way out of that.

113
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So the only, only thing left there was

114
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was 1) go to prison

115
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2) prove to them that I'm someone.

116
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I said that I was American.

117
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That er...I ran away and I was
willing to contact my family for them

118
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but I wanted to do it myself.

119
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I didn't want my family to receive a phone call
from the police or the persecutor

120
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or the judge in Spain.

121
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I wanted to do it myself.

122
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And I said I would need to be
in the office for the night

123
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because I live in the States.

124
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The States is, you know,
the times is different, it's er...

125
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So erm, you know, just leave me in the office

126
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and tomorrow you will have all you need.

127
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In this office nobody could hear me.

128
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I knew that I could pass myself
for anyone on the phone,

129
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could convince anyone of anything.

130
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So I call the American Police.

131
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County South, Detective Fowler.

132
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The New York Police.

133
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Lieutenant Kojak's office.

134
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Different police stations in the States.

135
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- Dobie here.
- Who is this, please?

136
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I told them every time
that I was a policeman from Spain

137
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called Jonathan Dorian,

138
00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,110
that we had found a kid,

139
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we are sure he's from the States
but we don't know where.

140
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How long ago was this?

141
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He's been maybe missing for a few years,
that someone must be looking for him.

142
00:14:41,153 --> 00:14:43,689
So the police say, well, you know,

143
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we got hundreds of posters
of missing persons on the wall

144
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and we just can't go through each of them.

145
00:14:49,445 --> 00:14:51,186
But what we can do for you

146
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is to give you the number of the centre
for missing and exploited children

147
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of Arlington, Virginia.

148
00:15:03,985 --> 00:15:07,896
Centre for missing and exploited children.
Lorraine speaking. How may I help you?

149
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Er, we have a kid in a shelter,
certainly is American,

150
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who is about 14, 15 years old

151
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but the problem is we don't know who he is...

152
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I describe myself.

153
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Every detail I gave was details
that I know that I could handle.

154
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I wanted to be vague enough for her
to look at many different things.

155
00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:30,430
I wanted her to have many possibilities.

156
00:15:30,484 --> 00:15:31,763
Let me just take a look here.

157
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"I got maybe something," she said.

158
00:15:33,777 --> 00:15:37,936
"Maybe, you know, we got a kid from San Antonio

159
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missing since June 13 1994.

160
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His name is Nicholas Barclay."

161
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I said, "Could you send me a fax
of what he looks like?"

162
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In my head, I was just a police officer
with, with Nicholas Barclay next to me,

163
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trying to confirm his identity
and like any other policeman would do.

164
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Let's see if it's him.

165
00:16:04,693 --> 00:16:06,730
I thought, let's see if it's him.

166
00:16:15,109 --> 00:16:18,853
I look at it, black and white picture,
old picture.

167
00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,559
Well, missing for three or four years,

168
00:16:23,609 --> 00:16:26,809
guarantee one thing, there will be a change.

169
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If there is a change, there will be doubt.

170
00:16:29,691 --> 00:16:32,263
If there is doubt, then I got a chance.

171
00:16:34,649 --> 00:16:40,814
Something in my head decided
I could do it, that I had to try.

172
00:16:46,858 --> 00:16:51,812
I took the phone and I told her
that this is Nicholas.

173
00:16:51,859 --> 00:16:53,765
We got him, it's him.

174
00:16:53,816 --> 00:16:55,854
It's incredible, it's him.

175
00:17:09,943 --> 00:17:12,893
My mom called me
and she says, "Are you sitting down?

176
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You're not gonna believe this."

177
00:17:15,066 --> 00:17:18,229
And I said, "What, Mom?" She goes,
"The police department called me

178
00:17:18,274 --> 00:17:21,438
and they think they found Nicholas
in Linares."

179
00:17:21,483 --> 00:17:24,600
So I'm like, "OK,
where in Texas is Linares?"

180
00:17:24,649 --> 00:17:26,853
Because Texas has a lot of small towns.

181
00:17:27,065 --> 00:17:28,936
And then she was like, "No, Spain."

182
00:17:28,981 --> 00:17:30,309
I'm like, "Spain?"

183
00:17:33,774 --> 00:17:35,930
Oh, God, how to explain the emotions.

184
00:17:36,773 --> 00:17:40,390
It's like all these different emotions,
from excitement to bewilderment,

185
00:17:40,442 --> 00:17:42,395
to what do we do?

186
00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,386
What's the next step? How do we get him?
When do we get to talk to him?

187
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I knew that after that they would contact me.

188
00:17:51,692 --> 00:17:56,311
They would try to verify, to call,
to see, to... Is it true? Is it here?

189
00:17:56,356 --> 00:17:58,596
Is it, you know...
Carey, the family and all that.

190
00:18:08,650 --> 00:18:11,729
Well, when I first got, you know,
got a hold of the shelter,

191
00:18:11,773 --> 00:18:14,854
they put me on the phone with Jonathan Dorian

192
00:18:14,899 --> 00:18:17,980
who said that he worked for the, a shelter,

193
00:18:18,066 --> 00:18:21,561
and that he was the one
who was talking with Nicholas

194
00:18:21,607 --> 00:18:25,302
and had got the information from Nicholas
on who he really was.

195
00:18:28,398 --> 00:18:32,309
When she called, I said that Nicholas
was seated next to me.

196
00:18:32,357 --> 00:18:35,887
But he was very scared, he was very traumatised

197
00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:37,682
and he didn't want to talk to no-one.

198
00:18:37,732 --> 00:18:40,397
He sounded very responsible, very concerned.

199
00:18:40,439 --> 00:18:44,135
Er, he claims that he has been abused,
that he's been hurt,

200
00:18:44,189 --> 00:18:47,436
that erm...certainly he's been abducted.

201
00:18:47,481 --> 00:18:51,261
I kind of thought he was like
a social worker type of person.

202
00:18:51,315 --> 00:18:53,885
Um, very reassuring.

203
00:18:54,272 --> 00:18:56,477
She said, "Is he saying anything?

204
00:18:56,523 --> 00:18:58,727
Is he talking about us? Does he remember?"

205
00:18:58,773 --> 00:19:02,219
Well, actually, I think he forgot
about everything, you know.

206
00:19:02,271 --> 00:19:04,143
He doesn't remember very much.

207
00:19:04,188 --> 00:19:06,477
He remember you but not very much.

208
00:19:06,524 --> 00:19:11,890
We were told he was held by
some kind of like a sex slave kind of ring,

209
00:19:11,938 --> 00:19:17,520
and that he had escaped from there and
that he was found wandering the streets.

210
00:19:17,564 --> 00:19:20,681
She was heartbroken
but at the same time she was very happy.

211
00:19:20,731 --> 00:19:22,388
I wanted to hear his voice.

212
00:19:22,439 --> 00:19:23,811
No!

213
00:19:23,854 --> 00:19:28,477
Absolutely, there was no way I was going
to talk to her pretending to be Nicholas

214
00:19:28,522 --> 00:19:32,183
because I wasn't Nicholas
and she was his sister,

215
00:19:32,229 --> 00:19:35,727
so er...it would have been a risk,

216
00:19:35,773 --> 00:19:37,644
too big a risk for me,

217
00:19:37,690 --> 00:19:39,560
but I did say a few words.

218
00:19:40,771 --> 00:19:43,769
She said: "Hello, Nicholas.
You hear me, Nicholas?"

219
00:19:46,313 --> 00:19:48,387
Nothing.

220
00:19:48,938 --> 00:19:52,137
"I love you, Nicholas.
I want to take you back home with me.

221
00:19:52,188 --> 00:19:53,466
I'm gonna take you, baby.

222
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,596
I'm gonna come and get you and..."

223
00:19:58,396 --> 00:20:03,385
And maybe you hear "Love you"
or something like that, you know.

224
00:20:03,897 --> 00:20:05,438
Very far away. It, it...

225
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,434
And then she say: "Was it him?"

226
00:20:07,479 --> 00:20:09,350
I said, "Yeah. He said 'I love you."'

227
00:20:09,646 --> 00:20:11,767
Oh. And then she started crying
on the phone.

228
00:20:13,104 --> 00:20:17,726
You start crying, you tell him, "We're
going to come and get you, bring you home.

229
00:20:17,771 --> 00:20:21,183
We'll get there, we're going to bring
you home, and I love you too."

230
00:20:24,187 --> 00:20:26,888
I erm... I washed her brain.

231
00:20:42,937 --> 00:20:47,393
I didn't stop,
because I didn't think of stopping.

232
00:20:48,686 --> 00:20:52,680
I didn't watch myself in the mirror
and say, "What the fuck are you doing?

233
00:20:52,728 --> 00:20:54,802
Stop that immediately."

234
00:21:03,604 --> 00:21:07,466
I realised that I've crossed the line.

235
00:21:09,186 --> 00:21:14,520
I wasn't pretending no more
to have another identity. I stole one.

236
00:21:29,977 --> 00:21:33,723
I got a phone call: "Would you please
call a Carey Gibson?"

237
00:21:36,145 --> 00:21:38,383
Well, I was astounded by what Carey said,

238
00:21:40,685 --> 00:21:44,346
so one of the first things I said to her was,

239
00:21:44,393 --> 00:21:48,931
when the FBI
and the US State Department assist you

240
00:21:48,975 --> 00:21:54,392
and uh...get you and your brother back here,
I have to interview him immediately.

241
00:22:01,604 --> 00:22:04,268
When the welfare of a minor,

242
00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:05,932
er...is in jeopardy,

243
00:22:06,435 --> 00:22:09,054
our reaction has to be very quick,

244
00:22:09,102 --> 00:22:10,725
er...very responsive.

245
00:22:10,768 --> 00:22:12,012
We have to put ourselves

246
00:22:12,060 --> 00:22:13,303
in the position of the child

247
00:22:13,351 --> 00:22:15,425
or the child's parents or guardians.

248
00:22:16,102 --> 00:22:19,383
Generally when a child is missing for years,

249
00:22:19,433 --> 00:22:24,637
either the child is dead or the child is not found

250
00:22:24,685 --> 00:22:29,638
and to find that child in another country
is extremely rare.

251
00:22:30,102 --> 00:22:33,217
That made it all the more compelling for us

252
00:22:33,267 --> 00:22:37,096
to make sure that we did everything right
in terms of er...

253
00:22:37,142 --> 00:22:40,307
establishing who he was
and getting him back to his family.

254
00:22:40,352 --> 00:22:42,306
My main concern was getting him back,

255
00:22:42,350 --> 00:22:46,048
so that my part could start,
the investigation could start...

256
00:22:46,184 --> 00:22:48,590
we could find out
what had happened to this child.

257
00:22:48,643 --> 00:22:50,798
I sent somebody out there
as quickly as possible.

258
00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:04,129
The next day...
The next day, it got beyond my control.

259
00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:09,631
The centre for missing
and exploited children sent me a flyer.

260
00:23:10,435 --> 00:23:13,798
There was the picture of Nicholas
at the time of his disappearance...

261
00:23:17,850 --> 00:23:22,472
And I saw what real Nicholas looked like,
really with colours and everything.

262
00:23:25,474 --> 00:23:27,715
He was very blond, very...

263
00:23:27,767 --> 00:23:30,091
He had blue eyes.

264
00:23:30,143 --> 00:23:32,180
He looked nothing like me!

265
00:23:32,724 --> 00:23:33,922
Nothing!

266
00:23:33,975 --> 00:23:37,092
There's, you know, the only thing
he had in common with me

267
00:23:37,142 --> 00:23:39,512
was that he had five fingers at each hands.

268
00:23:41,266 --> 00:23:43,589
Then I said, fuck, let's burn myself.

269
00:23:44,432 --> 00:23:46,338
You know, I burned the flyer.

270
00:23:46,389 --> 00:23:48,547
If I could have burned the identity that I said

271
00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:51,348
and every word that had been
out of my mouth for the past few days,

272
00:23:51,390 --> 00:23:53,132
I would have burned them too!

273
00:23:59,974 --> 00:24:03,967
When everyone tells me
that the American Embassy is coming

274
00:24:04,015 --> 00:24:06,718
and er...everybody's, you know...

275
00:24:06,766 --> 00:24:09,337
and don't worry, Nicholas,
we're gonna take care of you.

276
00:24:09,391 --> 00:24:14,627
Well, yeah, OK,
you know, I... I couldn't do nothing.

277
00:24:15,098 --> 00:24:16,425
The only thing I could do

278
00:24:16,474 --> 00:24:19,755
was think of how was going to be the prison
where I was going to be.

279
00:24:29,557 --> 00:24:30,930
I didn't know what to do.

280
00:24:30,973 --> 00:24:33,010
I really didn't know what to do.

281
00:24:34,431 --> 00:24:37,216
When the Vice Consul first arrived in Linares,

282
00:24:37,265 --> 00:24:40,347
he got to the centre and found
Nicholas Barclay had disappeared.

283
00:24:46,639 --> 00:24:48,214
I said, you've got to find him.

284
00:24:49,849 --> 00:24:53,924
So he essentially,
with somebody from the Linares Centre,

285
00:24:53,973 --> 00:24:56,094
went around looking for him.

286
00:24:57,225 --> 00:25:01,597
Our priority was his safety and to make sure
he was reunited with the family.

287
00:25:05,516 --> 00:25:09,011
I tried to run away
like I would do anywhere else.

288
00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:16,805
Nicholas Barclay?

289
00:25:17,597 --> 00:25:19,671
God didn't want me to leave this place.

290
00:25:20,139 --> 00:25:24,216
I spoke with the vice consul and asked him
about his interactions with Nicholas.

291
00:25:24,265 --> 00:25:28,258
He reported at the time that he spoke English,

292
00:25:28,806 --> 00:25:33,629
that he, he was, he was at least at that moment

293
00:25:33,681 --> 00:25:35,422
convinced that this was an American.

294
00:25:44,014 --> 00:25:46,964
When I woke up the next morning,
everything was normal.

295
00:25:52,097 --> 00:25:55,262
Then I saw the director of the shelter
that said,

296
00:25:55,307 --> 00:25:58,752
"Well, you know, you must be happy,
your sister is on the way."

297
00:25:59,346 --> 00:26:01,717
So I said, "What do you mean?"

298
00:26:01,763 --> 00:26:06,255
He say, "Well, your sister,
you know, from San Antonio,

299
00:26:06,305 --> 00:26:08,840
she's on the plane,
she's coming to get you."

300
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,214
Fuck, you know. Fuck! Fuck!

301
00:26:13,263 --> 00:26:14,460
Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!

302
00:26:14,513 --> 00:26:16,135
I'd never left the country.

303
00:26:16,179 --> 00:26:18,750
I didn't know even what it entailed.

304
00:26:23,514 --> 00:26:25,302
I knew Mom couldn't handle the flight.

305
00:26:25,346 --> 00:26:26,839
She can't, she couldn't do it.

306
00:26:26,888 --> 00:26:28,297
I have to do this.

307
00:26:28,346 --> 00:26:31,629
I just gotta go get him
and get him back here where he's safe.

308
00:26:35,138 --> 00:26:37,009
I should have thought of that.

309
00:26:38,221 --> 00:26:40,506
I should have thought of the consequences.

310
00:26:40,552 --> 00:26:42,627
If you do that, imagine for a second

311
00:26:42,678 --> 00:26:47,217
that you're the father of a kid that's
been missing for three years, four months,

312
00:26:47,262 --> 00:26:50,676
and that they find him in Columbia,
er...what would you do?

313
00:26:50,805 --> 00:26:52,712
What would be the first thing you'd do?

314
00:26:53,221 --> 00:26:55,295
I would jump on a fucking plane.

315
00:26:57,888 --> 00:27:00,968
I didn't sleep for two days
before I got on the plane.

316
00:27:01,012 --> 00:27:04,128
Fear, but also anticipation,

317
00:27:04,512 --> 00:27:06,218
cos you want to get there, get there.

318
00:27:06,262 --> 00:27:10,007
You want to see him, hold him,
smell him, just get there.

319
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,423
You can't prepare to play a role
of a person that you don't know.

320
00:27:16,803 --> 00:27:20,466
I couldn't be Nicholas Barclay
because I didn't know Nicholas Barclay.

321
00:27:21,138 --> 00:27:24,169
I didn't even know at that moment
if he was left or right-handed.

322
00:27:24,804 --> 00:27:27,835
So, er, that was a problem.

323
00:27:28,594 --> 00:27:32,126
I got on the plane and tried to sleep.

324
00:27:32,178 --> 00:27:33,884
Didn't work.

325
00:27:55,887 --> 00:27:57,960
The director...

326
00:28:01,386 --> 00:28:04,004
This is Nick, mwhah.

327
00:28:10,469 --> 00:28:12,126
He thought he was an adult.

328
00:28:12,176 --> 00:28:15,294
We called him 13 going on 30.

329
00:28:16,135 --> 00:28:18,589
Very difficult to discipline him.

330
00:28:19,386 --> 00:28:22,633
If he made up his mind
he was gonna do something,

331
00:28:22,678 --> 00:28:25,757
pretty much there wasn't a lot you could do.

332
00:28:27,177 --> 00:28:29,251
Put the lighter down.

333
00:28:30,636 --> 00:28:33,550
He'd run away before
for a night or two, mad at Mom.

334
00:28:33,594 --> 00:28:35,998
"I'm leaving, I'll find a new mom, a new home.

335
00:28:36,092 --> 00:28:37,835
Kiss my ass," kind of thing.

336
00:28:37,885 --> 00:28:41,795
And he, you know... would leave
and she would hunt him down

337
00:28:41,843 --> 00:28:44,958
and find out where he is
and he'd show up the next day.

338
00:28:45,969 --> 00:28:52,000
He was not, um, you know,
this perfect nice sweet innocent,

339
00:28:52,093 --> 00:28:55,589
he was a very street-smart city boy.

340
00:28:58,718 --> 00:29:03,790
- It's nice to meet ya. I am the director.
- In here, Nick.

341
00:29:03,843 --> 00:29:05,915
See, ain't I beautiful?

342
00:29:06,301 --> 00:29:08,967
He had beautiful blond hair.

343
00:29:09,009 --> 00:29:11,792
Kind of looked like, erm, a little pixie.

344
00:29:12,342 --> 00:29:15,590
He had blond hair and blue eyes
and a bit of a gap between his teeth.

345
00:29:15,636 --> 00:29:17,708
When he smiled, you could see it.

346
00:29:42,258 --> 00:29:46,171
Finally I'm on the ground.
"Who, who, who am I looking for?

347
00:29:46,219 --> 00:29:48,171
What do they look like? Are they in suits?

348
00:29:48,217 --> 00:29:50,172
Oh, damn, you can smoke here. Thank God!"

349
00:29:52,424 --> 00:29:53,752
The air smelt different.

350
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,965
Erm, it was a lot less crowded than I thought.

351
00:30:06,966 --> 00:30:11,208
I did everything I could
to give myself a chance.

352
00:30:15,343 --> 00:30:19,583
I bought product to colour my hair totally blond.

353
00:30:22,633 --> 00:30:24,755
The gentlemen and a lady approached me,

354
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,170
cos I wasn't sure where to go

355
00:30:27,216 --> 00:30:29,787
and we went straight into a car
and started driving.

356
00:30:35,090 --> 00:30:38,787
On the flyers it said that Nicholas Barclay
had three tattoos.

357
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:45,964
There was a girl inside the shelter
that did small tattoos just like that.

358
00:30:46,008 --> 00:30:47,998
She was no pro, she was just a kid.

359
00:30:48,257 --> 00:30:50,165
And I asked her to put those tattoos

360
00:30:50,216 --> 00:30:52,123
that were on the flyers on me.

361
00:31:00,672 --> 00:31:05,461
I was quiet and that's when
the lady started talking to me.

362
00:31:07,424 --> 00:31:11,999
She kept my mind busy
with explaining the countryside to me

363
00:31:12,091 --> 00:31:14,165
the whole way down there on the drive.

364
00:31:18,089 --> 00:31:24,585
I took big sunglasses, I took a hat,
I took a scarf, I took a glove.

365
00:31:25,091 --> 00:31:26,879
I thought that if she couldn't see me,

366
00:31:26,923 --> 00:31:29,705
then she wouldn't be able to say
I'm not her brother.

367
00:31:31,631 --> 00:31:34,962
We stopped for a Coca-Cola,
which I thought was really cool.

368
00:31:35,006 --> 00:31:39,628
They had coke there and it was
the anxiety of how long it was taking.

369
00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:46,624
Minutes before she arrived
I was convinced it was finished.

370
00:31:46,881 --> 00:31:50,162
That I was gonna get arrested
and maybe beat up also

371
00:31:50,214 --> 00:31:52,454
because they were
not going to be happy about it.

372
00:31:53,965 --> 00:31:56,500
I remember going into like a waiting area.

373
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,710
I'm speaking with a couple of people from
the home saying that he was in his room.

374
00:32:01,755 --> 00:32:04,587
He'd been locked in his room all day.
He wouldn't let anyone go in.

375
00:32:04,629 --> 00:32:08,077
Finally when I heard someone
knocking at the door and saying,

376
00:32:08,129 --> 00:32:12,374
"Hey, Nicholas, your sister is downstairs,

377
00:32:12,423 --> 00:32:14,626
er...she's waiting for you, she's there..."

378
00:32:16,255 --> 00:32:18,578
I went downstairs and into like a courtyard.

379
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:21,464
There were some kids playing
like ball against a wall

380
00:32:21,505 --> 00:32:24,669
and looked up at the window and told him,

381
00:32:24,714 --> 00:32:27,664
"I'm here, come here. I want to see you,
I want to hold you."

382
00:32:27,713 --> 00:32:31,374
I remember seeing him look out the window.

383
00:32:32,254 --> 00:32:36,414
I was sure that as soon as the sister
was gonna see me,

384
00:32:36,714 --> 00:32:39,795
she was going to say
"What the fuck is that?" You know.

385
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:41,913
That's not...that's not Nicholas.

386
00:32:46,838 --> 00:32:48,829
I waited maybe 10 minutes.

387
00:32:50,754 --> 00:32:52,461
I knew I was about to lose everything.

388
00:32:53,004 --> 00:32:54,830
I knew I couldn't wait no more,

389
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,372
that I couldn't go away,

390
00:32:56,421 --> 00:32:58,292
that I couldn't just disappear,

391
00:32:58,337 --> 00:33:00,708
so I opened the door and I went down.

392
00:33:05,629 --> 00:33:09,376
It was just this sense of immense relief.

393
00:33:10,339 --> 00:33:14,580
Just seeing, touching, kissing, holding him.

394
00:33:15,962 --> 00:33:18,000
I said, "What the hell?" You know.

395
00:33:18,088 --> 00:33:20,871
He's here, we're here, I have him.

396
00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:24,792
She didn't even wait a second or two seconds.

397
00:33:24,838 --> 00:33:27,077
She jump on me, she jump on me,

398
00:33:27,129 --> 00:33:28,752
she took me in her arms

399
00:33:28,795 --> 00:33:33,166
and she said, "Nicholas, oh, and you
were afraid I wouldn't recognise you.

400
00:33:33,210 --> 00:33:35,083
I would remember that nose."

401
00:33:35,127 --> 00:33:39,751
So I just... I remember touching his nose
and telling him, um,

402
00:33:39,796 --> 00:33:43,207
"I remember that nose,
you kind of look like your Uncle Pat."

403
00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:48,625
She said, "Don't worry," like she always say,
"everything is going to be fine.

404
00:33:48,670 --> 00:33:50,496
Everything is going to be perfect.

405
00:33:50,546 --> 00:33:52,453
I know it's you."

406
00:33:53,128 --> 00:33:55,876
He was just...just basically
told me he loved me,

407
00:33:55,919 --> 00:34:00,909
and he didn't say a whole lot
until all the people left.

408
00:34:03,545 --> 00:34:06,579
Only God know why she would
do something like that,

409
00:34:06,628 --> 00:34:14,449
but...but I know one thing for sure
is there was no other way.

410
00:34:14,502 --> 00:34:17,206
She came for me and she wanted me back.

411
00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:25,540
We went to the visit room
and she showed me dozens of pictures.

412
00:34:26,294 --> 00:34:28,367
Pictures, pictures, pictures.

413
00:34:29,003 --> 00:34:32,948
You remember, this was with Mom
at the, at the house we were living in

414
00:34:33,003 --> 00:34:34,996
before you, you went missing.

415
00:34:35,088 --> 00:34:38,701
Remember this was
when you were playing with Scotty.

416
00:34:38,753 --> 00:34:40,827
Remember this was...

417
00:34:42,419 --> 00:34:46,792
And he was like, "Jason looks the same,
Codey's gotten pretty big, huh?

418
00:34:47,002 --> 00:34:50,664
Mom, God, Mom looks exactly the same.
Has she put on weight?

419
00:34:51,794 --> 00:34:54,282
Wanted to know if Grandpa was still an asshole,

420
00:34:54,336 --> 00:34:57,701
um, told me how much he loved Grandma
and he missed her.

421
00:34:59,084 --> 00:35:02,118
I remember seeing the tattoo,
the cross between his, you know,

422
00:35:02,168 --> 00:35:03,543
right here on his hand.

423
00:35:03,585 --> 00:35:06,749
I just kept thinking
how much he looks like Uncle Pat

424
00:35:06,794 --> 00:35:10,123
and how mom was going to be
really surprised how tall he was.

425
00:35:12,793 --> 00:35:15,413
She said that he looked very different,

426
00:35:15,460 --> 00:35:17,581
that he had, you know, grown up...

427
00:35:19,377 --> 00:35:21,829
..and erm...

428
00:35:21,876 --> 00:35:27,659
he's very quiet, you know, kinda held back.

429
00:35:27,709 --> 00:35:30,541
He talked with a funny accent.

430
00:35:30,584 --> 00:35:34,662
But it was always a whisper and very quiet
like he was hiding from something.

431
00:35:38,584 --> 00:35:40,988
I mean, God, look what he had been through.

432
00:35:41,125 --> 00:35:43,200
He wasn't the same person.

433
00:35:43,252 --> 00:35:46,249
He wasn't the same Nicholas
that disappeared four years before.

434
00:35:46,293 --> 00:35:49,409
He had been held and tortured
and God knows what else.

435
00:35:49,459 --> 00:35:51,532
He wasn't that same person.

436
00:35:57,959 --> 00:36:02,617
The judge in Linares wanted to make sure
that there was in fact some legal basis

437
00:36:02,668 --> 00:36:07,739
for Nicholas claiming to be er...
Carey Gibson's lost brother.

438
00:36:08,085 --> 00:36:15,373
So now the problem was that they
had the sister and the embassy official

439
00:36:15,418 --> 00:36:18,450
that were swearing that I was Nicholas Barclay

440
00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:21,582
and there was the police and the prosecutor

441
00:36:21,625 --> 00:36:24,575
and the judge who were not convinced at all.

442
00:36:24,625 --> 00:36:26,995
The judge insisted on separate interviews

443
00:36:27,041 --> 00:36:34,366
and part of the evidence that was in those
interviews was a family photo album.

444
00:36:35,832 --> 00:36:39,080
And the judge said, "Listen,
the only way for you to prove

445
00:36:39,123 --> 00:36:42,242
that you're really Nicholas
is we got pictures here

446
00:36:42,292 --> 00:36:44,163
that you've never seen before.

447
00:36:47,458 --> 00:36:49,531
I'm gonna show you five of them."

448
00:36:50,916 --> 00:36:52,990
Number one, OK.

449
00:36:53,499 --> 00:36:55,157
Number two, OK.

450
00:36:55,207 --> 00:36:56,830
Number three, OK.

451
00:36:56,874 --> 00:36:58,579
Number four, OK.

452
00:36:58,623 --> 00:37:00,034
On the five one I made a mistake,

453
00:37:02,958 --> 00:37:04,331
but it was too late.

454
00:37:04,373 --> 00:37:06,744
She was already convinced
I was Nicholas Barclay.

455
00:37:13,542 --> 00:37:19,288
At that point I didn't see how I could
not document him as a US citizen.

456
00:37:23,873 --> 00:37:29,030
I would not have been able to do anything
if Carey didn't show me those pictures.

457
00:37:31,291 --> 00:37:35,449
They took picture of me,
with no hat, with nothing.

458
00:37:35,706 --> 00:37:38,242
Which was, you know, they saw my eyes.

459
00:37:39,165 --> 00:37:43,906
Erm, the constitution of the United States.
I swear to be a US citizen.

460
00:37:44,832 --> 00:37:47,615
You know, it wasn't real but I did it.

461
00:38:12,456 --> 00:38:16,863
We didn't do a whole lot of talking
the night before we got on the plane.

462
00:38:17,914 --> 00:38:21,859
Not uncomfortable, just silence,
and it was almost like a peaceful silence.

463
00:38:25,704 --> 00:38:31,406
You know, I could hear him breathing
and I just felt pretty peaceful.

464
00:38:38,706 --> 00:38:42,202
I'd been thinking about running away
even before I met her.

465
00:38:49,247 --> 00:38:54,367
All I got to do was take a taxi cab
and, going to a train station,

466
00:38:54,413 --> 00:38:56,322
buy myself a ticket out of Spain.

467
00:38:57,832 --> 00:38:59,952
I could have done that in a couple of minutes.

468
00:39:00,830 --> 00:39:03,282
Nothing was stopping me, nothing.

469
00:39:03,329 --> 00:39:05,998
I went down a few times in the hallway,

470
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,446
always wondering if I was doing
the right thing, the wrong thing.

471
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:16,823
Should I go, shouldn't I go,
should I go, shouldn't I go?

472
00:39:25,997 --> 00:39:31,115
When I was born,
I don't think there was much love.

473
00:39:33,662 --> 00:39:38,735
My mother was very, very young at the time
and she was, she was only 17 years old,

474
00:39:38,789 --> 00:39:43,858
met er...older man, which was my father,
from Algeria.

475
00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:49,866
My grandfather was a very racist person

476
00:39:49,912 --> 00:39:54,536
and knowing that the man my mother
spent the night with is an Algerian,

477
00:39:54,581 --> 00:39:58,159
he wanted absolutely my mother
to have an abortion.

478
00:39:58,205 --> 00:40:01,367
Er, to get rid of me even before I was born.

479
00:40:03,704 --> 00:40:07,532
For him an Arab should be
dealt with a nuclear weapon

480
00:40:07,579 --> 00:40:09,652
and a black man is a monkey.

481
00:40:10,828 --> 00:40:14,158
Before I was born,
I definitely I had the wrong identity.

482
00:40:14,411 --> 00:40:20,194
Er, I already didn't know...I was already
prepared not to know who I really was.

483
00:40:23,705 --> 00:40:28,277
A new identity with a real passport,
an American passport.

484
00:40:28,328 --> 00:40:30,531
I could go to the US, go to school there.

485
00:40:31,245 --> 00:40:34,824
Live with that family and just being someone.

486
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:39,610
And don't have never again
to worry about being identified.

487
00:40:40,745 --> 00:40:42,819
I saw the opportunity.

488
00:40:44,911 --> 00:40:51,405
A woman that could go through so much
to get me with her back in a family

489
00:40:51,452 --> 00:40:55,613
which got kids, which seem a fam...
a loving family,

490
00:40:56,328 --> 00:40:58,282
gotta be some...somebody good,

491
00:40:59,452 --> 00:41:02,901
You know, I had conflicting rules
inside my own head.

492
00:41:30,201 --> 00:41:33,319
Carey want me to be Nicholas
but what about the others?

493
00:41:33,369 --> 00:41:35,407
Are they going to want me to be Nicholas too?

494
00:41:37,535 --> 00:41:44,491
I didn't understand why he was so...
like, nervous, you know what I mean?

495
00:41:44,535 --> 00:41:48,031
He was like, you know,
constantly moving and to the bathroom,

496
00:41:48,118 --> 00:41:49,610
and watching people,

497
00:41:49,659 --> 00:41:51,984
watching me, he was always watching me.

498
00:41:52,245 --> 00:41:54,319
She was always looking at me.

499
00:41:55,493 --> 00:41:58,029
I attested it to him just being scared.

500
00:41:58,118 --> 00:42:00,110
You know, he's going back home

501
00:42:00,785 --> 00:42:03,273
and we don't know what's happened to him,

502
00:42:03,326 --> 00:42:05,234
how his mind's working.

503
00:42:05,285 --> 00:42:07,571
Um, but he was just...
maybe he was afraid

504
00:42:07,618 --> 00:42:11,742
that, that he wouldn't be recognised
or, or Mom wouldn't love him any more.

505
00:42:13,117 --> 00:42:14,989
I'm gonna get killed.

506
00:42:15,034 --> 00:42:16,740
And I want...

507
00:42:16,784 --> 00:42:19,535
And I say, well, maybe the plane better crash.

508
00:42:19,577 --> 00:42:25,027
When they said it was time for us
to board, I...nudged Nick and I said,

509
00:42:25,117 --> 00:42:28,115
"You ready? You ready to go home?"
He said, "I'm ready to go home."

510
00:42:28,158 --> 00:42:31,360
"Let's get the fuck out of here, and go home."

511
00:42:31,742 --> 00:42:33,816
And we got on the plane.

512
00:42:53,741 --> 00:42:59,609
I was really nervous,
anticipation, pretty happy.

513
00:43:00,742 --> 00:43:04,238
You know, we had made it...
It was a family thing, we all went together.

514
00:43:09,658 --> 00:43:12,277
I remember that night, minute by minute.

515
00:43:13,282 --> 00:43:15,273
It was me, my grandma,

516
00:43:15,324 --> 00:43:17,696
my sister and my dad, I believe.

517
00:43:17,744 --> 00:43:19,863
We all loaded up in my Lincoln

518
00:43:19,909 --> 00:43:21,567
to go get my mom and Nicholas.

519
00:43:25,241 --> 00:43:28,856
It was a wait and see
but everybody was excited, you know.

520
00:43:28,908 --> 00:43:30,983
We didn't know what to expect...

521
00:43:42,532 --> 00:43:44,606
I didn't want to go out of the plane.

522
00:43:45,615 --> 00:43:46,945
I wanted to wait.

523
00:43:46,993 --> 00:43:48,449
I wanted to prepare myself.

524
00:44:01,740 --> 00:44:04,443
I didn't have no plan.
I didn't have no strategy.

525
00:44:04,907 --> 00:44:06,980
I knew there was no way out.

526
00:44:07,656 --> 00:44:09,529
I could not turn back.

527
00:44:18,324 --> 00:44:24,272
We had no idea what kind of person
we were getting, who was coming back.

528
00:44:48,115 --> 00:44:50,734
I wanted to run and grab and hold him
but he held back.

529
00:44:50,907 --> 00:44:55,860
So I walked down and grabbed his hand
and hugged him and told him I missed him.

530
00:45:08,612 --> 00:45:10,190
He had changed so much.

531
00:45:10,779 --> 00:45:12,817
It was like mind-boggling.

532
00:45:13,782 --> 00:45:15,191
But then I realised, you know,

533
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,569
you tell yourself, well, he's been
through all this horrendous stuff,

534
00:45:18,614 --> 00:45:21,730
so he's absolutely gonna be different.

535
00:45:23,989 --> 00:45:28,729
I just remember my kids
and my mom and erm, my husband

536
00:45:28,780 --> 00:45:30,818
and just, God, we were so happy.

537
00:45:34,863 --> 00:45:37,352
He was like totally covered up,

538
00:45:37,405 --> 00:45:42,358
so then I got scared, thinking
that this kid's really messed up,

539
00:45:44,281 --> 00:45:46,355
just by his appearance.

540
00:45:52,822 --> 00:45:58,936
He was very quiet and erm, standoffish.

541
00:46:04,446 --> 00:46:06,520
I never liked people to touch me.

542
00:46:07,487 --> 00:46:09,561
And I can't change that.

543
00:46:09,612 --> 00:46:12,363
So when she put her hands around me,

544
00:46:12,406 --> 00:46:16,397
she must have felt
that I wasn't enjoying it at all.

545
00:46:21,406 --> 00:46:25,564
I was very cold, very closed.
I didn't speak to people.

546
00:46:27,571 --> 00:46:33,851
As much as I was happy...I didn't show it.

547
00:46:42,030 --> 00:46:45,608
I had a border in front of me.

548
00:46:45,654 --> 00:46:47,359
I didn't want to screw up.

549
00:46:53,362 --> 00:47:01,609
Of course, it was welcome with open arms
and let's get you home attitude.

550
00:47:03,194 --> 00:47:06,525
Talk about the rest later, you know,
let's just go home.

551
00:47:23,862 --> 00:47:26,693
I just watched him all the way home in the car

552
00:47:26,778 --> 00:47:28,683
and you could tell he was uneasy.

553
00:47:29,403 --> 00:47:34,190
So we put on a tape, tried to make him
as comfortable as possible.

554
00:47:34,235 --> 00:47:36,640
<i><font color="#7F7F7F">♫ THE DOOBIE BROTHERS:
Listen To The Music</font></i>

555
00:47:43,194 --> 00:47:46,108
It was a quiet ride home, you know,

556
00:47:46,152 --> 00:47:50,099
and everybody, you know, quiet but yet excited.

557
00:47:50,153 --> 00:47:53,980
<i>♪ Don't you feel it growin', day by day</i>

558
00:47:54,611 --> 00:47:57,395
<i>♪ People gettin' ready for the news</i>

559
00:47:57,444 --> 00:48:01,935
I couldn't keep the smile off my face
at that point in time, honestly.

560
00:48:02,652 --> 00:48:05,436
I just had a grin and all the way home.

561
00:48:05,485 --> 00:48:09,776
<i>♪ Oh, oh, listen to the music</i>

562
00:48:10,529 --> 00:48:14,390
<i>♪ Oh, oh, listen to the music</i>

563
00:48:15,776 --> 00:48:20,234
It was just a happy good feeling that...

564
00:48:20,943 --> 00:48:24,890
our long lost Nicholas was home.

565
00:48:28,358 --> 00:48:30,018
I had a family and even more.

566
00:48:30,109 --> 00:48:32,727
I never... I never dreamed of so much.

567
00:48:33,318 --> 00:48:40,193
I never dreamed to be able to
not only stay in a place where I'm loved

568
00:48:40,235 --> 00:48:42,308
but actually to have a family.

569
00:49:05,693 --> 00:49:09,734
When I woke up in Texas country...

570
00:49:11,608 --> 00:49:14,939
.. what I saw wasn't exactly
what I expected to see.

571
00:49:21,942 --> 00:49:27,975
The States for me was big city, it was
big buildings and, and people everywhere.

572
00:49:30,149 --> 00:49:34,060
The first thing
when you open your eyes is official,

573
00:49:34,107 --> 00:49:36,230
your name is Nicholas Patrick Barclay,

574
00:49:36,276 --> 00:49:38,764
that you're born December 31st 1980,

575
00:49:39,316 --> 00:49:41,935
and that every family member
is calling me Nicholas

576
00:49:41,982 --> 00:49:44,899
and not "Nicholas,
but what is your real name?"

577
00:49:44,942 --> 00:49:47,017
No! Nicholas.

578
00:49:47,068 --> 00:49:49,602
"OK, we're going to go shopping, Nicholas."

579
00:49:56,274 --> 00:49:58,348
They drove me around,

580
00:49:58,733 --> 00:50:01,813
and, you know,
I knew I had to recognise something,

581
00:50:01,857 --> 00:50:06,314
so...and I also knew that I couldn't
because I'd never been there before.

582
00:50:07,567 --> 00:50:09,355
Hey, Kirk, how are you doin'?

583
00:50:09,399 --> 00:50:12,811
We met some people that knew Nicholas
before he disappeared.

584
00:50:12,856 --> 00:50:17,230
I told them I didn't remember them, there
was something but I didn't remember them.

585
00:50:17,274 --> 00:50:20,437
Like I had lost my memory,
which is what I told them.

586
00:50:22,357 --> 00:50:24,430
He's traumatised.

587
00:50:24,816 --> 00:50:26,806
That's why he wasn't remembering anything,

588
00:50:26,857 --> 00:50:30,471
because of all, all of the things
that had happened to him.

589
00:50:32,733 --> 00:50:34,309
I remember a sign.

590
00:50:34,358 --> 00:50:39,771
I saw Nicholas in the picture doing this
with his fingers, you know,

591
00:50:39,814 --> 00:50:41,888
his, his way to say "hello", you know,

592
00:50:42,314 --> 00:50:44,390
and I did it a few times with them.

593
00:50:44,690 --> 00:50:47,854
When I was there. That was one of
the only things I knew what to do.

594
00:50:50,149 --> 00:50:51,854
I was thinking to myself

595
00:50:51,897 --> 00:50:55,229
that Nicholas Barclay could come back
at his house any day.

596
00:50:55,939 --> 00:50:57,562
That was my first worry.

597
00:50:57,606 --> 00:50:59,680
I was really worried about that.

598
00:51:00,606 --> 00:51:03,558
I couldn't help it.
I said, "Man, what if he show up?"

599
00:51:03,899 --> 00:51:06,269
What if you opened the door
and say, "Hey, I'm back."

600
00:51:06,316 --> 00:51:07,855
You know.

601
00:51:09,856 --> 00:51:14,643
We thought the best thing for him
was just to have a normal routine.

602
00:51:15,441 --> 00:51:18,556
You get up, you eat breakfast,
you do this, you eat lunch,

603
00:51:18,606 --> 00:51:22,813
you eat dinner, we'd watch a movie,
just the normal family atmosphere.

604
00:51:23,064 --> 00:51:25,138
Me and him hung out.

605
00:51:25,897 --> 00:51:29,760
I’d just take him for drives and talk to him
and turn up the music and stuff.

606
00:51:30,732 --> 00:51:32,805
<i>♪ I listen to the wind</i>

607
00:51:32,857 --> 00:51:35,144
<i>♪ To the wind of my soul</i>

608
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:37,179
He'd hang out with Codey and his friends

609
00:51:37,231 --> 00:51:40,347
and after school they'd go to the park and play,

610
00:51:40,397 --> 00:51:43,313
and, I mean, they would do what teenagers do.

611
00:51:43,606 --> 00:51:47,054
He actually kinda started liking a girl
in the neighbourhood, Amy.

612
00:51:47,605 --> 00:51:49,229
They would hang out, talk on the phone

613
00:51:49,273 --> 00:51:52,305
and he'd kinda get blushy-red
when we talked about her.

614
00:51:53,895 --> 00:51:57,474
The only person I hadn't met
in the Barclays' family

615
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,765
was, erm, Jason, his other brother,
the brother of, erm, Carey.

616
00:52:02,691 --> 00:52:05,259
And finally he came to see me.

617
00:52:05,313 --> 00:52:11,014
He didn't look at me like Nicholas and he
didn't pretend to look at me like Nicholas

618
00:52:11,064 --> 00:52:14,596
and, er, he said good luck to me and he left.

619
00:52:15,355 --> 00:52:19,016
<i>♪ I swam upon the Devil's lake</i>

620
00:52:19,896 --> 00:52:23,143
<i>♪ But never, never never never...</i>

621
00:52:23,188 --> 00:52:26,600
We didn't even talk about
what had happened to him over there,

622
00:52:27,479 --> 00:52:32,137
because we felt, like, when the time was right
he would open up to us.

623
00:52:36,687 --> 00:52:40,977
I did not receive any telephone calls
from the family

624
00:52:41,021 --> 00:52:43,935
saying, you know, "Nicholas is back.

625
00:52:43,979 --> 00:52:46,385
Please come over and talk to us.
We need help."

626
00:52:47,438 --> 00:52:49,309
And I felt like it was imperative

627
00:52:49,354 --> 00:52:50,763
that he be interviewed quickly.

628
00:52:52,603 --> 00:52:57,344
So I'd agreed to meet Nicholas
at the San Antonio missing children's centre

629
00:52:57,395 --> 00:52:59,268
to conduct our first interview.

630
00:53:00,147 --> 00:53:03,760
I introduced myself to Nicholas
and then told him why I was there,

631
00:53:03,812 --> 00:53:08,849
and that the purpose of this interview
was to get his account of his kidnapping

632
00:53:08,896 --> 00:53:11,977
and for his assistance
in locating his abductors.

633
00:53:13,395 --> 00:53:14,640
All I knew about Nicholas

634
00:53:14,688 --> 00:53:17,471
was what I had read
on some of the missing posters.

635
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,304
Not that people can't change in three years,

636
00:53:21,353 --> 00:53:24,683
but this person in general
did not appear to be 16.

637
00:53:25,644 --> 00:53:29,059
He had a shadow of a beard, a dark beard,

638
00:53:29,313 --> 00:53:34,644
that I doubt if Nicholas would have had
a shadow of a dark beard at the age of 16

639
00:53:34,686 --> 00:53:36,512
since he had blond hair.

640
00:53:36,562 --> 00:53:38,683
He appeared to be quite nervous

641
00:53:38,728 --> 00:53:42,888
and he just seemed very uncomfortable
this entire time.

642
00:53:48,144 --> 00:53:53,642
I told them that, um,
I was taken by military overseas

643
00:53:53,684 --> 00:53:56,010
and I was abducted and put in a van,

644
00:53:56,062 --> 00:53:59,641
then fly over to some places
that I never knew where it was.

645
00:54:00,396 --> 00:54:05,264
That, er, we were kept in a room
with different kids.

646
00:54:05,310 --> 00:54:06,508
They'd get chloroformed,

647
00:54:06,561 --> 00:54:09,927
and, er, they wake up and they're, er...

648
00:54:09,978 --> 00:54:13,757
you know, in a place
they don't know where they're at.

649
00:54:14,227 --> 00:54:21,598
They were subjected by
high-ranking military to sexual abuse.

650
00:54:22,019 --> 00:54:25,018
Every night all of the kids were raped
and molested by men.

651
00:54:25,395 --> 00:54:28,014
These men were American, Mexican and European.

652
00:54:28,062 --> 00:54:33,726
They broke my hands, especially
my right hand, with a baseball bat.

653
00:54:33,769 --> 00:54:36,601
They kept burning him
and giving him insects to eat.

654
00:54:36,644 --> 00:54:38,848
- We were tortured.
- They broke his fingers.

655
00:54:38,894 --> 00:54:41,762
- His left foot was broken with a crowbar.
- I was raped.

656
00:54:41,811 --> 00:54:47,475
They keep these kids in line
by doing military scare tactics.

657
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:48,892
We were experimented on.

658
00:54:48,935 --> 00:54:51,175
They would put needles in his eyes.

659
00:54:51,227 --> 00:54:56,560
Headphones on their heads screaming
and yelling, er, different languages.

660
00:54:56,602 --> 00:55:00,761
Spanish kept playing over and over
and a voice kept saying, "You are not you."

661
00:55:00,810 --> 00:55:02,848
If he spoke English, he was beaten.

662
00:55:02,893 --> 00:55:07,136
They moved these kids around in military planes.

663
00:55:07,184 --> 00:55:09,222
We never saw where we were going.

664
00:55:09,268 --> 00:55:12,882
The boys' identities were changed
by either changing their hair colour,

665
00:55:12,934 --> 00:55:15,221
eye colour or other ways.

666
00:55:15,267 --> 00:55:16,677
They were always in uniform.

667
00:55:16,726 --> 00:55:18,468
A solution was put in his eyes.

668
00:55:18,518 --> 00:55:20,508
They would sell him for money for sex.

669
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:24,388
His eye colour was changed from blue
to brown by the use of this solution.

670
00:55:24,435 --> 00:55:27,387
The door wasn't shut and I left by that door.

671
00:55:27,435 --> 00:55:30,514
I ran in the big hallway
and there was another door.

672
00:55:31,433 --> 00:55:33,425
Somehow I managed to go outside

673
00:55:33,476 --> 00:55:35,846
and outside I ran, I ran, I ran

674
00:55:35,893 --> 00:55:39,969
and hours after that
l, I discovered that I was in Spain.

675
00:56:11,933 --> 00:56:15,464
We've got a kid here
which is about 14, 15 years old.

676
00:56:15,516 --> 00:56:16,890
He doesn't have no ID.

677
00:56:16,932 --> 00:56:19,883
He's no documents on him
but you can see he's very young.

678
00:56:19,932 --> 00:56:21,925
And he's very scared.

679
00:56:26,140 --> 00:56:30,597
She was professional
but you could see that she was horrified.

680
00:56:31,267 --> 00:56:35,723
This was a horrendous interview
and when I left I was shaken by it

681
00:56:35,766 --> 00:56:39,712
because it had all the horrific,
emotional side effects

682
00:56:39,766 --> 00:56:42,254
that go with listening to such a story.

683
00:56:42,307 --> 00:56:45,922
He knew about this type of activity.

684
00:56:45,974 --> 00:56:49,339
I mean, a normal person
doesn't sit down with a story

685
00:56:49,391 --> 00:56:51,465
and make up horrendous...

686
00:56:52,016 --> 00:56:53,638
that's not what you lie about.

687
00:56:53,682 --> 00:56:58,469
You don't go into detail about torture
and the murdering of children or whatever.

688
00:56:58,515 --> 00:56:59,795
None of that seemed normal.

689
00:56:59,849 --> 00:57:01,590
He was tortured.

690
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,430
I mean, he had torture written all...

691
00:57:03,473 --> 00:57:07,930
He had a broken hand
that was never medically attended to,

692
00:57:07,973 --> 00:57:09,631
he walked with a limp,

693
00:57:09,681 --> 00:57:15,796
erm, he had cigarette burns down the back
of his head to the back of his ankles.

694
00:57:15,848 --> 00:57:21,051
This person is either, erm,
had been the victim himself

695
00:57:21,141 --> 00:57:24,754
or he was a fantastic actor

696
00:57:24,806 --> 00:57:27,839
and I didn't
know which of those titles applied to him.

697
00:57:29,391 --> 00:57:32,388
I let them know that I was very sorry
about what had happened

698
00:57:32,431 --> 00:57:34,966
and we were going to locate
the people who had done this

699
00:57:35,014 --> 00:57:37,966
and put an end to the trauma
that he had been through.

700
00:57:42,556 --> 00:57:45,009
This was the last border.

701
00:57:45,473 --> 00:57:48,175
It's like you...

702
00:57:48,224 --> 00:57:50,677
I won. You know, the game is over.

703
00:57:52,141 --> 00:57:55,836
I had passports, everybody in the family
say I am Nicholas Barclay.

704
00:57:56,389 --> 00:57:58,464
Nobody was investigating me.

705
00:57:59,764 --> 00:58:02,513
Nobody was suspicious that I know.

706
00:58:05,889 --> 00:58:08,259
Hell, I was happy.

707
00:58:08,305 --> 00:58:10,925
I was, you know...
I couldn't believe my luck.

708
00:58:17,431 --> 00:58:20,513
My name is Charlie Parker.
I'm a private investigator.

709
00:58:20,557 --> 00:58:22,677
Hey, how are you doin'?

710
00:58:22,721 --> 00:58:25,293
Say, I want you...
I want you to do something for me.

711
00:58:26,637 --> 00:58:30,632
<i>♪ I know dark clouds are gonna gather around me</i>

712
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,923
<i>♪ I know my way'll be rough and steep</i>

713
00:58:34,972 --> 00:58:38,799
<i>♪ Yet beautiful fields lie just before me...</i>

714
00:58:38,846 --> 00:58:45,554
I got a call back in November and, erm,
from a television producer for Hard Copy

715
00:58:45,597 --> 00:58:47,671
and he said that a boy

716
00:58:47,723 --> 00:58:51,761
who had been missing earlier for four years
had turned up

717
00:58:51,804 --> 00:58:55,715
and he wanted me to track him down
so they could get an interview with him.

718
00:58:57,473 --> 00:59:01,003
First I had to find out where his mother lived.

719
00:59:01,056 --> 00:59:06,838
Found her and then we drove out to
the north of San Antonio to do the interview.

720
00:59:13,470 --> 00:59:17,928
I had repeatedly asked him,
please do not contact the media.

721
00:59:17,972 --> 00:59:21,003
If anything that Nicholas was telling us was true,

722
00:59:21,053 --> 00:59:23,174
if any of it had any accuracy,

723
00:59:23,220 --> 00:59:26,303
and if there was any military officer
possibly involved,

724
00:59:26,346 --> 00:59:28,917
the last thing that we wanted it to be put

725
00:59:28,971 --> 00:59:31,638
was on the front page of the newspaper
or on television

726
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:35,459
so that that abductor would know
something about our investigation.

727
00:59:37,846 --> 00:59:40,132
This is Eyewitness News at 10.

728
00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:43,422
He disappeared without a trace three years ago.

729
00:59:43,470 --> 00:59:45,926
Tonight a San Antonio boy is back home.

730
00:59:45,972 --> 00:59:48,673
Nicholas Barclay is now 16 years old.

731
00:59:48,722 --> 00:59:50,296
He vanished when he was 13...

732
00:59:50,345 --> 00:59:51,801
Nicholas says he was kidnapped

733
00:59:51,845 --> 00:59:53,042
and taken to Spain.

734
00:59:53,137 --> 00:59:56,632
He says for three years he was repeatedly
drugged, beaten and raped,

735
00:59:56,679 --> 01:00:00,589
all part of a sex slave operation
involving dozens of missing children.

736
01:00:00,637 --> 01:00:03,468
Well, Bob, the FBI is not taking this case lightly...

737
01:00:03,511 --> 01:00:04,589
The reason?

738
01:00:04,636 --> 01:00:07,302
Somehow a 13-year-old boy from San Antonio

739
01:00:07,343 --> 01:00:10,377
ended up in Spain without a passport.

740
01:00:10,427 --> 01:00:14,340
June 19th 1994,
Nicholas got into a fight with his family,

741
01:00:14,388 --> 01:00:17,338
so he came here to Fort Sam Houston
to play basketball.

742
01:00:17,387 --> 01:00:19,874
Two young boys approached him,
they started talking.

743
01:00:19,928 --> 01:00:23,969
The next thing he knew, there was a cloth
over his mouth and Nicholas passed out.

744
01:00:25,178 --> 01:00:27,216
He claims his captors changed his appearance

745
01:00:27,262 --> 01:00:29,050
to make him unrecognisable.

746
01:00:29,135 --> 01:00:31,422
He was no longer allowed to speak English.

747
01:00:31,469 --> 01:00:33,543
Did they rape you all every night?

748
01:00:34,386 --> 01:00:35,760
Me? No.

749
01:00:35,802 --> 01:00:39,381
Because they didn't rape me every night.

750
01:00:39,427 --> 01:00:41,583
Some of them, they liked more.

751
01:00:41,635 --> 01:00:43,178
Some of the kids they liked more.

752
01:00:43,221 --> 01:00:47,426
They rape them
usually two or three times a week.

753
01:00:47,636 --> 01:00:52,626
I wanted the media's attention, so that
I would make Nicholas even more real,

754
01:00:52,678 --> 01:00:56,208
that people would really believe
that I'm Nicholas

755
01:00:56,885 --> 01:00:59,836
and they would love me even more for that.

756
01:01:01,511 --> 01:01:05,455
They set him up, put a microphone on him
and had the cameras on him

757
01:01:05,509 --> 01:01:08,377
and I moved over behind a booth.

758
01:01:08,426 --> 01:01:10,500
And it was almost fate.

759
01:01:10,885 --> 01:01:13,671
Behind that booth was a picture

760
01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:15,793
of the actual Nicholas Barclay.

761
01:01:16,511 --> 01:01:20,634
And I could look at that picture
and look at him at the same time.

762
01:01:20,926 --> 01:01:25,916
And as I looked at the picture, I noticed
that the boy had blue-grey-looking eyes

763
01:01:25,968 --> 01:01:27,959
and this man had brown eyes.

764
01:01:30,135 --> 01:01:33,132
Here was a moment where the hair
stood up on the back of your neck,

765
01:01:33,175 --> 01:01:36,210
and, and er...there was
just something wrong about it.

766
01:01:36,675 --> 01:01:38,796
I did what they wanted me to do.

767
01:01:38,842 --> 01:01:42,256
Something was wrong. I said,
"Can you get me a picture of his ears?"

768
01:01:42,302 --> 01:01:44,008
I need to get...get that.

769
01:01:44,052 --> 01:01:51,209
And I had read about Scotland Yard
using that method to trace down a man,

770
01:01:51,677 --> 01:01:54,709
James Earl Ray,
that had killed Martin Luther King.

771
01:01:54,759 --> 01:01:58,172
They had caught him in Heathrow Airport
by identifying his ears.

772
01:01:58,217 --> 01:02:04,747
And I knew the ears were a means of identity,
almost like fingerprints.

773
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,254
I put the picture in my pocket and took it...

774
01:02:11,136 --> 01:02:12,510
When I got back to the office,

775
01:02:12,552 --> 01:02:14,956
I put the pictures in Adobe Photoshop.

776
01:02:24,050 --> 01:02:25,757
They, they were different ears.

777
01:02:25,801 --> 01:02:27,458
And so I knew right away

778
01:02:27,508 --> 01:02:31,004
that absolutely he was not Nicholas Barclay.

779
01:02:32,134 --> 01:02:34,503
I thought I had a spy.

780
01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:37,168
I thought I had real, honest to God spy.

781
01:02:37,591 --> 01:02:42,464
Why else would a guy come here
and take the place of another person?

782
01:02:42,509 --> 01:02:43,883
What would be his reason?

783
01:02:46,299 --> 01:02:48,373
I phoned Nancy Fisher.

784
01:02:49,217 --> 01:02:52,084
I said, "This guy's a fake. It's not him."

785
01:02:52,133 --> 01:02:53,792
I said, "The ears don't match."

786
01:02:53,842 --> 01:02:55,382
And my comment to him was,

787
01:02:57,258 --> 01:02:58,537
"You need to be very careful

788
01:02:58,591 --> 01:03:01,127
that you don't intrude
on the federal investigation."

789
01:03:01,424 --> 01:03:04,790
People aren't used to hearing
you talk about somebody's ears

790
01:03:04,841 --> 01:03:08,337
and I think she was taken back by that.
She didn't know what I was talking about.

791
01:03:08,384 --> 01:03:11,002
I thought I didn't have a right to question,

792
01:03:11,050 --> 01:03:13,881
you know, their statement
that this was their family member

793
01:03:13,924 --> 01:03:16,875
because how, how could they be wrong?

794
01:03:16,924 --> 01:03:19,626
I mean, no-one would be wrong
about something like that.

795
01:03:19,674 --> 01:03:23,253
What do they want? I've already got
the fact he doesn't have the same ears.

796
01:03:23,716 --> 01:03:26,998
Why would you ever, ever take in a stranger?

797
01:03:27,049 --> 01:03:29,039
Not just a stranger from this country

798
01:03:29,090 --> 01:03:32,586
but a stranger from another country
who speaks with a French accent.

799
01:03:32,631 --> 01:03:34,788
This has to be Nicholas Barclay.

800
01:03:37,175 --> 01:03:39,581
It was an outrageous thing.

801
01:03:40,342 --> 01:03:44,629
I cannot have talked to anyone
that hasn't read about this

802
01:03:44,673 --> 01:03:50,088
that has said, "Wait a minute.
I know my own kid. I know my own son.

803
01:03:50,174 --> 01:03:52,294
I can look in his eyes and tell..."

804
01:03:52,339 --> 01:03:56,381
It's like when you go to a class reunion

805
01:03:56,423 --> 01:03:59,208
and you see the kids
you went to school with in 19...

806
01:04:10,174 --> 01:04:12,246
<i><font color="#7F7F7F">♫ DAVID BOWIE:
Queen Bitch</font></i>

807
01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:24,755
It really began for me, the American dream,
when I took that big yellow bus

808
01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:28,127
to go to school
with others, with other students.

809
01:04:28,172 --> 01:04:32,711
<i>♪ I'm up on the 11th floor
and I'm watching the cruisers below</i>

810
01:04:34,048 --> 01:04:39,286
How many French adults
go to American schools for kids,

811
01:04:39,340 --> 01:04:40,666
into a yellow bus...

812
01:04:42,298 --> 01:04:44,335
<i>♪ My heart's in the basement</i>

813
01:04:44,381 --> 01:04:47,746
<i>♪ My weekend's at an all-time low</i>

814
01:04:47,797 --> 01:04:51,625
That was impossible. You could do that
in a movie, you could do that in a...

815
01:04:51,672 --> 01:04:53,331
but you can't do that for real.

816
01:04:53,630 --> 01:04:55,123
<i>♪ Letting him go</i>

817
01:04:55,172 --> 01:04:56,665
<i>♪ Walk out of her heart</i>

818
01:04:56,714 --> 01:04:58,371
<i>♪ Walk out of her mind...</i>

819
01:05:01,088 --> 01:05:05,663
I finally succeeded to become a kid again,
officially, with a passport,

820
01:05:05,714 --> 01:05:07,255
to have a second chance,

821
01:05:07,297 --> 01:05:11,338
to be able this time to go to school
and to succeed this time.

822
01:05:13,380 --> 01:05:15,454
<i>♪ Oh, yeah</i>

823
01:05:17,089 --> 01:05:19,162
<i>♪ She's an old-time ambassador</i>

824
01:05:19,213 --> 01:05:21,962
<i>♪ Of sweet-talking, night-walking games</i>

825
01:05:24,630 --> 01:05:27,165
Well, he started back to high school.

826
01:05:27,213 --> 01:05:28,374
I really was worried.

827
01:05:28,421 --> 01:05:30,956
I didn't know what he was going to do.

828
01:05:31,004 --> 01:05:33,625
This was a case. I mean, a real case.

829
01:05:34,423 --> 01:05:37,503
This guy was lying about who he said he was

830
01:05:37,547 --> 01:05:39,620
and here the family was accepting him.

831
01:05:39,671 --> 01:05:43,832
I expected him any day to blow up
something at the airbase

832
01:05:43,881 --> 01:05:46,333
or do something at the army base.

833
01:05:49,462 --> 01:05:53,291
I was pulling teeth trying to determine
who had kidnapped Nicholas,

834
01:05:53,337 --> 01:05:55,660
when and where and under what circumstances.

835
01:05:56,462 --> 01:05:58,417
I had almost no information

836
01:05:58,462 --> 01:06:01,710
because all the information he gave us
was very, very general.

837
01:06:01,755 --> 01:06:04,208
He couldn't give names, he couldn't give places,

838
01:06:04,255 --> 01:06:06,624
he couldn't give times,
he couldn't give anything.

839
01:06:08,170 --> 01:06:12,627
The family was told that the reason
we were taking Nicholas to Houston

840
01:06:12,670 --> 01:06:14,578
was because he'd been through trauma.

841
01:06:14,629 --> 01:06:19,002
So he deserved to see a forensic expert
to deal with the trauma.

842
01:06:23,837 --> 01:06:28,079
Initially I thought that this was
going to be a forensic interview,

843
01:06:28,128 --> 01:06:32,170
er, with the intent of finding out
more information

844
01:06:32,213 --> 01:06:34,168
about the people who abducted him.

845
01:06:37,711 --> 01:06:44,454
Here was this pale white kid
and I introduced myself

846
01:06:44,503 --> 01:06:48,827
and, as he spoke back, immediately my...

847
01:06:48,877 --> 01:06:51,117
Something in me just said, this is not right,

848
01:06:51,169 --> 01:06:52,745
there's something wrong here.

849
01:06:52,795 --> 01:06:55,034
I speak with him for a long time.

850
01:06:55,086 --> 01:06:58,949
He asked me to repeat all the stories
I'd been telling everybody.

851
01:06:59,002 --> 01:07:02,369
I remember people grabbing me
and putting me in the van.

852
01:07:02,420 --> 01:07:07,040
I went to sleep and I woke up in a room.
There was other kids...

853
01:07:07,085 --> 01:07:10,286
I didn't see the same physiological change

854
01:07:10,336 --> 01:07:17,292
in his body posture,
in his pupil size, in his heart rate,

855
01:07:17,335 --> 01:07:18,793
that I would normally see

856
01:07:18,836 --> 01:07:21,952
with somebody who's talking about
a traumatic experience.

857
01:07:27,293 --> 01:07:31,418
He couldn't speak English without an accent.

858
01:07:31,461 --> 01:07:36,414
That told me about the development of his brain,
and the development of language.

859
01:07:38,545 --> 01:07:43,960
You just cannot be raised for
the first six, seven years of your life

860
01:07:44,002 --> 01:07:48,374
in an English-speaking home

861
01:07:48,419 --> 01:07:52,992
and later on, you know, eight, nine years later,

862
01:07:53,043 --> 01:07:55,995
even 10 years later,

863
01:07:56,043 --> 01:07:58,710
not be able to speak English without an accent.

864
01:08:01,169 --> 01:08:06,452
I can guarantee you that this kid was
not raised in an English-speaking family.

865
01:08:08,168 --> 01:08:11,580
You know, I don't know who he is
but the person who was...I was interviewing

866
01:08:11,626 --> 01:08:13,746
could not have been Nicholas Barclay.

867
01:08:16,083 --> 01:08:19,744
OK, the worst scenario
just showed up and I don't like that.

868
01:08:21,085 --> 01:08:23,489
This investigation did a 90 degree.

869
01:08:23,543 --> 01:08:27,159
It just went from one, one place
all the way up to another.

870
01:08:27,751 --> 01:08:30,619
I immediately called Carey Gibson
and I said to her,

871
01:08:30,668 --> 01:08:34,792
"Carey, Dr Perry has just stated
that this person cannot be your brother,

872
01:08:34,833 --> 01:08:37,323
for the fact that he cannot be an American.

873
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:41,375
This could be a very dangerous person."

874
01:08:43,126 --> 01:08:48,115
She shrieked or screamed
and said, "Oh, my gosh!"

875
01:08:50,375 --> 01:08:52,745
So I said, "Don't be at the airport," you know.

876
01:08:52,792 --> 01:08:55,625
"I'll handle it. I will take care of this individual"

877
01:08:55,667 --> 01:08:58,072
and that she did not have to take him home,

878
01:08:58,125 --> 01:09:00,246
you know, back to her home to live with them

879
01:09:00,292 --> 01:09:02,697
and she says, "OK, OK."

880
01:09:07,584 --> 01:09:13,994
We fly back into San Antonio
and there's Carey standing there.

881
01:09:15,417 --> 01:09:16,495
What?

882
01:09:20,791 --> 01:09:23,657
She acted like we'd never had that conversation.

883
01:09:23,707 --> 01:09:27,951
And she acted excited to see him,
asked him how his trip was.

884
01:09:28,835 --> 01:09:30,989
I think I just stared for a minute...

885
01:09:32,374 --> 01:09:35,657
And I called the US Attorneys' Office
right then and there

886
01:09:35,708 --> 01:09:37,699
and I said, "What do I do?"

887
01:09:38,874 --> 01:09:43,994
And the Assistant US Attorney said,
"Let him return to her temporarily."

888
01:09:45,499 --> 01:09:48,781
She welcomed this person home
just like he was her brother.

889
01:09:48,832 --> 01:09:52,777
I didn't have any clue
as to why she behaved in this manner.

890
01:09:53,165 --> 01:09:55,454
Because in my conversation with her,

891
01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:58,248
I had said,
"This person is not your brother."

892
01:09:59,250 --> 01:10:03,242
I don't think... I don't remember her
putting it in those words.

893
01:10:03,290 --> 01:10:06,739
Well, maybe they wanted him so badly
to be their son

894
01:10:06,791 --> 01:10:08,579
that they said he was their son,

895
01:10:08,623 --> 01:10:11,326
but it was starting to get ridiculous.

896
01:10:15,499 --> 01:10:19,195
I couldn't let it go. There was no way
in the world I could let it go.

897
01:10:20,873 --> 01:10:23,280
I started going into the neighbourhood,

898
01:10:23,333 --> 01:10:25,406
and finding out about the real Nicholas Barclay,

899
01:10:25,457 --> 01:10:27,164
interviewing the neighbours,

900
01:10:27,207 --> 01:10:30,573
trying to find out what I could about that boy

901
01:10:30,624 --> 01:10:32,365
and about that family.

902
01:10:32,414 --> 01:10:34,241
And what's going on?

903
01:10:34,291 --> 01:10:36,494
You know, why would Nicholas have left?

904
01:10:36,540 --> 01:10:39,538
The police used to usually come

905
01:10:39,581 --> 01:10:44,073
maybe like twice or three times a month.

906
01:10:45,498 --> 01:10:47,155
Either it was argument with the kids

907
01:10:47,206 --> 01:10:50,535
or with their boyfriend or with the other son.

908
01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:57,457
I spoke to everyone and they all said
that Nicholas had caused trouble,

909
01:10:57,499 --> 01:10:59,287
had come home late at night.

910
01:10:59,330 --> 01:11:01,654
We've all had arguments in our family,

911
01:11:01,706 --> 01:11:03,579
but it's rare that we call the police,

912
01:11:03,623 --> 01:11:05,744
that it is so bad that they have to come.

913
01:11:06,497 --> 01:11:09,366
It, it made me think
there was something going on,

914
01:11:09,415 --> 01:11:11,619
more than meets the eye. Of course it did.

915
01:11:16,997 --> 01:11:20,826
I knew that DNA samples would prove
that he wasn't Nicholas Barclay.

916
01:11:25,748 --> 01:11:28,117
Mrs Dollarhide said, "This is my son.

917
01:11:28,163 --> 01:11:31,364
I don't have to provide blood samples
for you for DNA

918
01:11:31,414 --> 01:11:33,037
and she laid down on the floor,

919
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,155
literally laid down on the floor,

920
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:38,615
and said, "No, and you can't pick me up,
and you can't make me."

921
01:11:39,038 --> 01:11:44,324
I did not want to go anywhere with the FBI,
but I don't remember refusing.

922
01:11:44,829 --> 01:11:47,282
I was stunned.
I've never had that reaction before.

923
01:11:47,329 --> 01:11:49,819
She wasn't just apathetic, she was hostile.

924
01:11:51,623 --> 01:11:56,325
To be honest with you, I really have
no idea what I was thinking at that time.

925
01:11:56,370 --> 01:12:01,075
My main goal in life was not, not to think.

926
01:12:03,455 --> 01:12:06,370
We didn't need to prove who he was.
We knew who he was.

927
01:12:09,204 --> 01:12:14,620
I no longer saw them as a grieving erm...
victimised family.

928
01:12:14,663 --> 01:12:17,659
I saw them as a very questionable family.

929
01:12:18,204 --> 01:12:22,992
There would be no reason for them
to accept a stranger into their lives...

930
01:12:24,455 --> 01:12:26,741
..unless there was something to hide.

931
01:12:26,788 --> 01:12:28,613
That would be the only reason.

932
01:12:28,663 --> 01:12:31,745
Something was being hidden
and I didn't know what that was.

933
01:12:41,412 --> 01:12:45,073
When Beverly refused to give her blood sample,

934
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,203
I started to become suspicious.

935
01:12:48,246 --> 01:12:51,197
They knew that I wasn't Nicholas.

936
01:12:53,037 --> 01:12:55,157
Whatever I was telling them,

937
01:12:57,328 --> 01:12:59,283
they didn't believe a word of it.

938
01:12:59,330 --> 01:13:01,118
But they were good at not showing it.

939
01:13:03,204 --> 01:13:07,364
I mean, who wouldn't see it?

940
01:13:09,662 --> 01:13:12,659
That's about four, five years ago now.

941
01:13:12,745 --> 01:13:16,240
I remember in Spain,
Carey did everything for me.

942
01:13:18,620 --> 01:13:20,528
When I didn't know something, she told me.

943
01:13:21,745 --> 01:13:24,493
"You forgot everything
but you're going to remember it now

944
01:13:24,535 --> 01:13:29,691
and, you know, this was Mom at the place
we're living in with... Do you remember?

945
01:13:29,744 --> 01:13:34,152
Oh, this was Chantelle. You remember
Chantelle. That's your niece, my daughter.

946
01:13:34,203 --> 01:13:37,532
Do you remember that? Do you
remember that? Do you remember that?"

947
01:13:37,577 --> 01:13:39,485
Over and over and over again.

948
01:13:39,536 --> 01:13:40,733
That's Jason.

949
01:13:40,787 --> 01:13:43,534
She wanted to put it in my head.

950
01:13:43,576 --> 01:13:46,446
She wanted to put it in my head
so I would never forget.

951
01:13:47,537 --> 01:13:50,617
She just could not say it's not Nicholas.

952
01:13:50,661 --> 01:13:52,568
Did she believe it or not?

953
01:13:52,619 --> 01:13:53,947
If you asked me, I would say,

954
01:13:53,994 --> 01:13:56,660
no, not for a second
did she believe I was her brother.

955
01:13:57,745 --> 01:13:59,984
She decided I was gonna be her brother.

956
01:14:01,744 --> 01:14:04,067
It's like I woke up in a place where...

957
01:14:05,703 --> 01:14:08,024
Lies even bigger than what I did.

958
01:14:08,076 --> 01:14:09,653
You know, it's...

959
01:14:10,493 --> 01:14:15,401
they pretended as much as I did and even more.

960
01:14:23,576 --> 01:14:26,943
I kept thinking about the kid, Nicholas Barclay.

961
01:14:37,410 --> 01:14:38,820
At the time of his disappearance,

962
01:14:38,869 --> 01:14:42,363
he was living with Beverly
in the house on Swallow Street

963
01:14:42,409 --> 01:14:45,444
and his brother Jason was also living there.

964
01:14:51,742 --> 01:14:53,069
Jason, Nick's older brother,

965
01:14:53,117 --> 01:14:54,824
when he moved into their house,

966
01:14:54,868 --> 01:14:56,112
that house changed,

967
01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:57,533
because before he got there,

968
01:14:57,576 --> 01:14:58,819
Nick and his mom

969
01:14:58,867 --> 01:15:00,610
seemed pretty close to me.

970
01:15:01,951 --> 01:15:03,575
She loved him to death.

971
01:15:03,619 --> 01:15:08,404
I mean, she loved him, you could tell...
She, she... He was the light of her life.

972
01:15:09,409 --> 01:15:12,856
This guy moved in, he was a bum, a drug addict

973
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:14,492
and he only cared about himself.

974
01:15:14,576 --> 01:15:18,273
And when he got into that house,
it just made things that much more worse.

975
01:15:18,326 --> 01:15:22,485
In fact, I think it even pushed his mom
into doing drugs herself

976
01:15:22,534 --> 01:15:24,157
when he moved into the house.

977
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,317
That house just became
a volatile situation altogether.

978
01:15:31,159 --> 01:15:32,782
I discovered from the police files,

979
01:15:32,826 --> 01:15:35,395
a couple of months after the disappearance,

980
01:15:35,991 --> 01:15:38,362
that Jason had called the police

981
01:15:38,408 --> 01:15:42,155
and said that his brother
had tried to break into the house.

982
01:15:45,367 --> 01:15:47,654
Well, we see that kind of thing all the time.

983
01:15:47,701 --> 01:15:50,946
People, people
are constantly doing stuff like that

984
01:15:50,990 --> 01:15:54,238
to make people think that person's alive.

985
01:15:57,741 --> 01:15:59,317
I started to put two and two together

986
01:15:59,365 --> 01:16:02,318
and I thought something happened
inside that house to that boy.

987
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:13,276
I didn't need to be Columbo
to put all the pieces together.

988
01:16:15,534 --> 01:16:17,607
They killed him.

989
01:16:18,282 --> 01:16:22,276
Some of them did it, some of them knew of it,
and some of them chose to ignore it.

990
01:16:29,032 --> 01:16:31,781
I wasn't worried about
Nicholas coming back no more.

991
01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:39,355
Neither Nicholas Barclay
or his mother were cooperating,

992
01:16:39,406 --> 01:16:42,738
so we were going to have to have
a search warrant executed

993
01:16:42,783 --> 01:16:45,449
in order to obtain those blood samples.

994
01:16:47,407 --> 01:16:51,982
I couldn't pretend no more to be Nicholas
and act like Nicholas.

995
01:16:53,241 --> 01:16:56,687
I took two or three other agents with me
to go pick him up.

996
01:16:58,324 --> 01:17:04,520
So inside me, I started getting,
you know, more and more aggressive,

997
01:17:05,115 --> 01:17:06,393
weird.

998
01:17:06,906 --> 01:17:08,529
I couldn't go on.

999
01:17:09,324 --> 01:17:12,239
We got the fingerprints
and we got the palm prints.

1000
01:17:12,282 --> 01:17:16,144
Within a few weeks, we would be sending
them out to Interpol, to the embassies,

1001
01:17:16,197 --> 01:17:18,153
to see if any of these fingerprints

1002
01:17:18,198 --> 01:17:21,066
matched anything that they had on record.

1003
01:17:21,115 --> 01:17:22,904
I was trying to find a way out,

1004
01:17:22,991 --> 01:17:25,987
not only a way out in San Antonio, Texas,

1005
01:17:26,031 --> 01:17:28,235
but a way out, out of my mind.

1006
01:17:28,782 --> 01:17:32,146
Nicholas was becoming
much more agitated and angry

1007
01:17:32,197 --> 01:17:35,029
and I really felt like he was going to run away

1008
01:17:35,072 --> 01:17:38,190
and if he ran away we might have
a very hard time locating him.

1009
01:17:39,033 --> 01:17:41,698
I started tailing him, I started following him.

1010
01:17:41,739 --> 01:17:45,269
I started sitting up on Beverly's place
where she lived

1011
01:17:45,321 --> 01:17:49,481
and writing down licence numbers of
all the cars that came to her, to see her.

1012
01:17:51,406 --> 01:17:55,481
So I took a razor blade and I slit my face.

1013
01:17:55,530 --> 01:17:58,694
Everything was snowballing
and snowballing and snowballing.

1014
01:17:58,739 --> 01:18:02,399
I show them, show them that

1015
01:18:02,446 --> 01:18:04,982
I was under a great deal of pressure.

1016
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:07,067
On March 3rd of 1998,

1017
01:18:07,112 --> 01:18:10,859
the legate in Madrid, Spain, called me

1018
01:18:10,906 --> 01:18:13,690
and he said, "We've just identified him."

1019
01:18:13,739 --> 01:18:15,232
And I said, "You're kidding?"

1020
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:20,400
I knew that everything was going down
and it was just a matter of weeks.

1021
01:18:20,447 --> 01:18:25,400
He said, "What I'm gonna do right now
is fax to you the records that I have."

1022
01:18:27,406 --> 01:18:29,063
He agreed to meet with me.

1023
01:18:29,113 --> 01:18:30,985
We ordered hot cakes.

1024
01:18:31,445 --> 01:18:33,732
And we started to eat.

1025
01:18:33,779 --> 01:18:35,686
And he said...

1026
01:18:35,737 --> 01:18:38,109
I said,
"You really made your mother angry."

1027
01:18:38,156 --> 01:18:41,271
And he said,
"She's not my mother and you know it."

1028
01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:44,063
And I thought, well, I'II be damned.

1029
01:18:44,446 --> 01:18:46,687
And so I stood over the fax machine,

1030
01:18:48,446 --> 01:18:50,981
waiting for, of course, them to come in

1031
01:18:51,029 --> 01:18:53,268
because I was screaming and jumping up and down.

1032
01:18:55,446 --> 01:18:57,437
I actually said, "Well, I'll be damned,

1033
01:18:57,488 --> 01:18:59,976
you're going to finally tell me
who you are."

1034
01:19:02,237 --> 01:19:06,480
I was like doing a dance
and everybody was high-fiving.

1035
01:19:06,529 --> 01:19:10,026
It was like, you know, we finally,
we finally know who this person is.

1036
01:19:12,237 --> 01:19:16,610
And my heart was beating fast,
just like it is now thinking about it.

1037
01:19:16,653 --> 01:19:20,066
And... And I said, "Who are you?"

1038
01:19:20,112 --> 01:19:23,275
He said, "I'm Frederic Bourdin
and I'm wanted by Interpol."

1039
01:19:26,236 --> 01:19:28,026
The fingerprint cards told me

1040
01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:31,401
that he was not 16, he was 23.

1041
01:19:32,027 --> 01:19:34,435
That he was not American, he was French.

1042
01:19:34,696 --> 01:19:37,694
That he was not Nicholas Barclay,
he was Frederic Bourdin.

1043
01:19:38,404 --> 01:19:41,353
We grow up in America thinking Interpol

1044
01:19:41,402 --> 01:19:44,983
is kind of the God of the cops.
You follow me?

1045
01:19:45,028 --> 01:19:47,599
That's the highest step you can get
in "Copland".

1046
01:19:47,653 --> 01:19:49,857
And so I thought, Jesus Christ,

1047
01:19:49,903 --> 01:19:53,269
if he's wanted by Interpol,
what has he done? You know.

1048
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,309
There is no limit to what he's done.

1049
01:19:55,361 --> 01:19:56,902
So he began to tell me.

1050
01:20:00,361 --> 01:20:02,480
Frederic Bourdin is delinquent.

1051
01:20:02,526 --> 01:20:04,602
Activities and modus operandi...

1052
01:20:13,487 --> 01:20:15,145
He has travelled throughout Europe

1053
01:20:15,195 --> 01:20:16,687
appearing at shelters for minors

1054
01:20:16,736 --> 01:20:18,193
under different aliases.

1055
01:20:19,027 --> 01:20:20,818
Spain, 1992.

1056
01:20:22,278 --> 01:20:24,600
Spain, September 1993.

1057
01:20:28,693 --> 01:20:29,723
Barcelona...

1058
01:20:29,776 --> 01:20:32,894
.. stated that he'd run away
from his adoptive parents' house.

1059
01:20:32,987 --> 01:20:35,060
Brussels, '95.

1060
01:20:37,319 --> 01:20:39,109
Pyrenees...

1061
01:20:39,153 --> 01:20:41,143
Milan, 1993.

1062
01:20:42,443 --> 01:20:43,640
Glasgow.

1063
01:20:43,693 --> 01:20:46,609
I sat there. I could hardly eat,
I could hardly swallow my food.

1064
01:20:52,403 --> 01:20:53,563
He always wore glasses.

1065
01:20:53,610 --> 01:20:55,766
Giovanni Petrullo.

1066
01:20:55,818 --> 01:20:57,892
Michelangelo Martini.

1067
01:20:58,443 --> 01:20:59,521
Donovan MacNeph.

1068
01:21:01,151 --> 01:21:02,561
- Peter Samson.
- William Thomas.

1069
01:21:02,610 --> 01:21:04,317
Jimmy Sale.

1070
01:21:04,362 --> 01:21:06,103
Peter Robin.

1071
01:21:06,153 --> 01:21:08,143
James Markey.

1072
01:21:08,194 --> 01:21:09,271
Frederic Cassis.

1073
01:21:09,318 --> 01:21:10,395
'93.

1074
01:21:12,609 --> 01:21:13,889
Hernandez Fernandez.

1075
01:21:13,985 --> 01:21:15,014
'95.

1076
01:21:15,067 --> 01:21:16,229
Edgar Guteyere.

1077
01:21:16,276 --> 01:21:17,556
'97.

1078
01:21:17,610 --> 01:21:19,684
Spain, 1997.

1079
01:21:19,983 --> 01:21:22,353
It's possible he may need psychiatric help.

1080
01:21:27,150 --> 01:21:28,477
Settle in tonight

1081
01:21:28,525 --> 01:21:30,483
because we are about to share with you

1082
01:21:30,527 --> 01:21:32,103
a story so bizarre,

1083
01:21:32,151 --> 01:21:34,226
it's hard to believe it's true.

1084
01:21:34,277 --> 01:21:36,812
This is the tale of a master imposter

1085
01:21:36,859 --> 01:21:40,225
who managed to lie his way
into the United States

1086
01:21:40,276 --> 01:21:43,642
and prey upon the most vulnerable of people.

1087
01:21:43,693 --> 01:21:45,767
He is the only person in US history

1088
01:21:45,818 --> 01:21:49,349
ever to have assumed
the identity of a missing child.

1089
01:21:49,567 --> 01:21:52,352
He fooled even the lost boy's mother.

1090
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,101
It's hard to imagine
how he could have gotten away with it.

1091
01:22:18,065 --> 01:22:22,012
We knew it was going to be,
you know, heart-wrenching and...

1092
01:22:23,316 --> 01:22:24,478
you know...

1093
01:22:24,524 --> 01:22:26,514
but we never thought it wouldn't be him.

1094
01:22:27,358 --> 01:22:29,728
You know, why would you even think that?

1095
01:22:29,775 --> 01:22:32,015
The first feeling was complete sadness.

1096
01:22:32,234 --> 01:22:34,722
Because it wasn't Nicholas.

1097
01:22:34,775 --> 01:22:36,765
Which took us back to square one.

1098
01:22:36,816 --> 01:22:39,140
Where is Nicholas?

1099
01:22:39,192 --> 01:22:41,266
That was the first one.

1100
01:22:42,858 --> 01:22:45,641
The second emotion was,

1101
01:22:48,442 --> 01:22:51,273
how could I be so fucking stupid?

1102
01:22:51,315 --> 01:22:53,139
I mean, seriously.

1103
01:22:57,107 --> 01:23:00,805
I contacted the SAPD,
the San Antonio Police Department,

1104
01:23:00,858 --> 01:23:05,016
and told them, decided to tell them,
that, hey, they killed him.

1105
01:23:08,983 --> 01:23:11,472
Based upon Frederic Bourdin's allegations,

1106
01:23:12,273 --> 01:23:15,853
a homicide investigation was opened

1107
01:23:15,899 --> 01:23:19,595
and the allegation
was against the family members

1108
01:23:19,648 --> 01:23:24,186
as being...participating in
the disappearance of the child.

1109
01:23:24,230 --> 01:23:28,724
It was related to us
that while Frederic was in jail

1110
01:23:28,774 --> 01:23:31,476
that he said that my mom confessed to him

1111
01:23:31,524 --> 01:23:34,474
that her and Jason
killed Nicholas and hid the body.

1112
01:23:36,690 --> 01:23:38,232
They accused me first

1113
01:23:40,649 --> 01:23:42,722
and it totally freaked me out.

1114
01:23:44,398 --> 01:23:49,765
Because I, I...have been crazy
but never violent.

1115
01:23:52,023 --> 01:23:56,646
This is the street the kid lived on
when he went missing.

1116
01:24:03,481 --> 01:24:05,555
There's the house right there.

1117
01:24:09,648 --> 01:24:11,554
I think the boy's buried here.

1118
01:24:14,106 --> 01:24:17,187
I want to talk to Darryl inside.

1119
01:24:17,230 --> 01:24:23,641
He's agreed to let me dig
and see if Nicholas Barclay's here.

1120
01:24:25,857 --> 01:24:28,640
If Beverly knew that this individual
was not her son,

1121
01:24:28,689 --> 01:24:31,521
then she had to have
some type of ulterior motive

1122
01:24:31,564 --> 01:24:35,557
and it had to be something very scary

1123
01:24:35,606 --> 01:24:39,303
for her to accept a stranger into her household

1124
01:24:39,356 --> 01:24:40,813
posing as her own son.

1125
01:24:40,855 --> 01:24:42,976
I agreed to take a lie detector test.

1126
01:24:44,189 --> 01:24:46,262
She passed the polygraph.

1127
01:24:47,230 --> 01:24:50,429
And I said to the polygraph examiner,

1128
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,138
"I don't understand this,

1129
01:24:52,187 --> 01:24:54,892
I don't understand it at all.
Will you give it to her again?"

1130
01:25:01,855 --> 01:25:05,267
So he gave it to her again
and she passed the polygraph.

1131
01:25:05,313 --> 01:25:08,347
I said, "No, there is something wrong."

1132
01:25:10,771 --> 01:25:12,845
The third time he gave it to her,

1133
01:25:14,065 --> 01:25:15,389
she flunked every question.

1134
01:25:15,437 --> 01:25:16,811
I mean, like, big-time.

1135
01:25:16,853 --> 01:25:20,717
The polygrapher said the machine
practically jumped off the table.

1136
01:25:21,521 --> 01:25:25,302
Her answers appeared to be false on everything.

1137
01:25:28,980 --> 01:25:30,602
And he turned to her and he said,

1138
01:25:30,645 --> 01:25:35,054
"Mrs Dollarhide, it appears
that you know where your son is.

1139
01:25:35,105 --> 01:25:39,429
It appears that you know what happened
to him" and some other questions.

1140
01:25:39,687 --> 01:25:42,770
And that's when she became
very aggravated, very agitated,

1141
01:25:42,813 --> 01:25:44,637
jumped up and ran out and was screaming.

1142
01:25:47,978 --> 01:25:52,222
I lied about being...stealing,

1143
01:25:54,396 --> 01:25:57,394
and I had...so that's why I failed.

1144
01:25:58,229 --> 01:26:01,807
I didn't lie about anything to do with Nicholas.

1145
01:26:01,853 --> 01:26:03,761
It was the other questions.

1146
01:26:05,187 --> 01:26:07,059
- Darryl? Charlie Parker.
- Mr Parker.

1147
01:26:07,104 --> 01:26:09,176
How are you doin'?

1148
01:26:09,645 --> 01:26:10,842
It's nice in here.

1149
01:26:10,895 --> 01:26:12,354
So this is the house, huh?

1150
01:26:12,396 --> 01:26:13,769
Yes, sir.

1151
01:26:13,811 --> 01:26:19,144
The polygraph led us to believe
that she did have some information...

1152
01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:25,395
..she could provide that she refused to
and we felt like Jason had information.

1153
01:26:26,062 --> 01:26:30,635
If Jason did something to Nicholas,
I didn't know about it

1154
01:26:30,686 --> 01:26:35,391
and I can't imagine Jason ever doing that.

1155
01:26:35,437 --> 01:26:37,805
It's just not in his makeup,

1156
01:26:40,979 --> 01:26:43,844
but...I don't know.

1157
01:26:44,811 --> 01:26:51,721
I know my brother or my mother did not
kill Nicholas, accidentally, on purpose.

1158
01:26:51,770 --> 01:26:54,306
Whatever Frederic said, it never happened.

1159
01:26:55,103 --> 01:26:59,843
When we first got my dog, he was always
digging in the back corner over there

1160
01:26:59,894 --> 01:27:01,268
where the, the tree is.

1161
01:27:01,311 --> 01:27:06,052
And one day I was mowing
and saw, like, pieces of, like, plastic,

1162
01:27:06,103 --> 01:27:08,508
- kind of like a tarp kind of material...
- OK.

1163
01:27:08,561 --> 01:27:11,428
..sticking out of the ground.
I tried to pull it up to get it out,

1164
01:27:11,476 --> 01:27:14,390
and it just kept ripping on me
as it was stuck in the ground.

1165
01:27:14,434 --> 01:27:17,006
So I never paid any attention to it
or gave it any thought,

1166
01:27:17,060 --> 01:27:19,467
until last night when we were speaking
on the phone.

1167
01:27:20,519 --> 01:27:22,723
And the bush has been there a while?

1168
01:27:25,810 --> 01:27:29,852
I had initially tried to get a hold of
Jason prior to Frederic's arrest

1169
01:27:29,893 --> 01:27:31,137
and couldn't.

1170
01:27:32,227 --> 01:27:35,142
And then when I finally did get a hold of him,

1171
01:27:35,186 --> 01:27:37,852
I asked him
about the disappearance of his brother.

1172
01:27:38,811 --> 01:27:44,046
He just seemed totally apathetic about
the disappearance of his younger brother.

1173
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:45,474
Extremely apathetic.

1174
01:27:45,517 --> 01:27:48,720
And didn't care that he'd been returned

1175
01:27:48,770 --> 01:27:50,096
but when he did see him,

1176
01:27:50,144 --> 01:27:51,766
no, that wasn't his brother,

1177
01:27:51,810 --> 01:27:54,678
but he didn't seem interested enough
or excited enough

1178
01:27:54,727 --> 01:27:57,724
to tell his mother and sister,
"That's not my brother.

1179
01:27:57,768 --> 01:28:00,387
No, no, they just wanted to believe."

1180
01:28:00,975 --> 01:28:03,678
Yeah, it's a good spot. Let's see.

1181
01:28:03,726 --> 01:28:05,800
Say he dumps him here first...

1182
01:28:07,476 --> 01:28:10,308
..and then, if he looks up,

1183
01:28:11,850 --> 01:28:14,717
yeah, yeah, this is good, this is good.

1184
01:28:14,766 --> 01:28:18,632
He was very hostile, refused to help in any way,

1185
01:28:18,685 --> 01:28:22,678
and then he later left
the drug rehabilitation centre

1186
01:28:22,726 --> 01:28:26,220
and was found having died from a drug overdose.

1187
01:28:26,642 --> 01:28:30,505
I think that Jason became a perfect scapegoat
because he's not here.

1188
01:28:31,726 --> 01:28:34,344
He died,

1189
01:28:34,392 --> 01:28:39,428
so he can't be questioned
or, you know, anything.

1190
01:28:41,599 --> 01:28:44,514
I mean, he can't, he can't even defend himself.

1191
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,759
It's kinda like a nightmare.

1192
01:28:57,058 --> 01:29:02,214
AII this stuff is coming at you and none
of it's true but nobody believes you.

1193
01:29:02,267 --> 01:29:04,968
Or they think that you had
something to do with it.

1194
01:29:06,142 --> 01:29:10,964
And it's like getting in trouble
for something you didn't do.

1195
01:29:13,515 --> 01:29:17,511
You know, when kids tell you,
"I didn't do it!"

1196
01:29:17,559 --> 01:29:19,633
You're going, "Yeah, right."

1197
01:29:21,891 --> 01:29:23,965
But I didn't do it.

1198
01:29:26,558 --> 01:29:30,254
I do feel like the family knows
the whereabouts of Nicholas Barclay.

1199
01:29:30,307 --> 01:29:34,467
I think that Beverly Dollarhide
and Jason Dollarhide knew at one time

1200
01:29:34,516 --> 01:29:37,004
what happened to Nicholas Barclay.

1201
01:29:37,057 --> 01:29:38,763
Show me one piece of evidence,

1202
01:29:38,807 --> 01:29:42,468
show me one thing that will lock
anybody in our family up over this,

1203
01:29:42,515 --> 01:29:46,296
just one shred of actual proof.

1204
01:29:46,433 --> 01:29:48,554
Back here. Let's go back here.

1205
01:29:53,306 --> 01:29:56,674
The biggest, funniest one to me, hilarious,

1206
01:29:57,224 --> 01:30:00,007
is that we went and picked up
a complete stranger

1207
01:30:00,056 --> 01:30:03,090
to hide the fact that we killed Nicholas

1208
01:30:03,140 --> 01:30:05,710
or someone in my family killed Nicholas.

1209
01:30:05,764 --> 01:30:09,011
When through four years
that Nicholas was disappeared,

1210
01:30:09,056 --> 01:30:11,342
we were the only ones looking for him.

1211
01:30:11,389 --> 01:30:16,842
Why would we go pick up a stranger to hide
something that didn't need to be hidden?

1212
01:30:26,556 --> 01:30:28,630
Just another one of his lies.

1213
01:30:32,223 --> 01:30:33,764
Even from behind bars,

1214
01:30:33,807 --> 01:30:37,172
he continued to lie to families
of other missing children.

1215
01:30:38,055 --> 01:30:39,796
From this phone in his cell,

1216
01:30:39,846 --> 01:30:41,837
Bourdin made hundreds of collect calls

1217
01:30:41,888 --> 01:30:44,923
claiming to have information
about lost children.

1218
01:30:45,556 --> 01:30:47,097
He even said he could help solve

1219
01:30:47,140 --> 01:30:49,841
the highly publicised case of Sabrina Aisenberg,

1220
01:30:49,889 --> 01:30:53,634
an infant who was taken from her home
in Tampa, Florida, last year.

1221
01:30:57,388 --> 01:30:59,462
No.

1222
01:31:04,097 --> 01:31:05,506
Yes.

1223
01:31:11,056 --> 01:31:12,597
He's a habitual liar

1224
01:31:12,639 --> 01:31:14,382
and it blows my mind

1225
01:31:14,432 --> 01:31:20,379
that anybody can take anything
that is said out of his mouth as truth.

1226
01:31:24,139 --> 01:31:26,508
What? This kid comes
and says he's Nicholas,

1227
01:31:26,555 --> 01:31:27,882
and then turns around and says,

1228
01:31:27,930 --> 01:31:30,882
"You...these people
that took care of me killed him."

1229
01:31:30,930 --> 01:31:33,596
Hm.
How do you come up with that conclusion?

1230
01:31:33,638 --> 01:31:36,173
He put us through enough already

1231
01:31:36,221 --> 01:31:40,000
and then for him to do this
while he's in jail for what he's done

1232
01:31:40,055 --> 01:31:42,259
and to cause more pain to our family?

1233
01:31:43,265 --> 01:31:44,507
Fuck him.

1234
01:31:46,139 --> 01:31:48,211
<i><font color="#7F7F7F">♫ 16 HORSEPOWER:
Wayfaring Stranger</font></i>

1235
01:32:07,803 --> 01:32:12,047
I didn't give a damn what other people
were thinking, or what they were feeling.

1236
01:32:12,097 --> 01:32:15,260
I care about myself, just about myself...

1237
01:32:17,512 --> 01:32:19,836
..and fuck the rest of it.

1238
01:32:21,179 --> 01:32:25,338
<i>♪ I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger</i>

1239
01:32:25,388 --> 01:32:29,168
<i>♪ Travellin' through a world of woe</i>

1240
01:32:30,013 --> 01:32:34,171
<i>♪ Ain't no sickness, toil or danger</i>

1241
01:32:34,220 --> 01:32:37,835
<i>♪ In that bright land to which I go</i>

1242
01:32:38,554 --> 01:32:42,595
<i>♪ I'm goin' there to see my father</i>

1243
01:32:42,888 --> 01:32:47,177
<i>♪ Said he'd meet me when I come
- (Digging)</i>

1244
01:32:47,220 --> 01:32:51,427
<i>♪ I'm only goin' over Jordan
- (Digging)</i>

1245
01:32:51,470 --> 01:32:55,333
<i>♪ I'm only goin' over home</i>

1246
01:33:18,678 --> 01:33:22,623
<i>♪ I know dark clouds are gonna gather around me</i>

1247
01:33:22,844 --> 01:33:26,672
<i>♪ I know my way'll be rough and steep</i>

1248
01:33:27,387 --> 01:33:31,426
<i>♪ Yet beautiful fields lie just before me</i>

1249
01:33:31,635 --> 01:33:35,463
<i>♪ Where God's redeemed their vigils keep</i>

1250
01:33:35,886 --> 01:33:40,259
<i>♪ I'm goin' there to see my loved ones</i>

1251
01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:44,296
<i>♪ Gone before me one by one</i>

1252
01:33:44,552 --> 01:33:48,759
<i>♪ I'm only goin' over Jordan</i>

1253
01:33:49,053 --> 01:33:53,046
<i>♪ I'm only goin' over home</i>

1254
01:33:57,594 --> 01:34:02,131
<i>♪ I'll soon be free from earthly trials</i>

1255
01:34:02,301 --> 01:34:06,249
<i>♪ This body rest in the old churchyard</i>

1256
01:34:06,470 --> 01:34:10,677
<i>♪ I'll drop this cross of self-denial</i>

1257
01:34:10,885 --> 01:34:15,128
<i>♪ And go singing home to God</i>

1258
01:34:15,343 --> 01:34:19,586
<i>♪ I'm goin' there to see my saviour</i>

1259
01:34:19,635 --> 01:34:23,925
<i>♪ To dwell with Him, no more to roam</i>

1260
01:34:24,010 --> 01:34:28,298
<i>♪ I'm only goin' over Jordan</i>

1261
01:34:28,342 --> 01:34:32,334
<i>♪ I'm only goin' over home</i>

1262
01:34:32,759 --> 01:34:37,003
<i>♪ I'm only goin' over home</i>

1263
01:34:53,176 --> 01:34:55,381
<i><font color="#7F7F7F">♫ JIMMY DRIFTWOOD:
He Had A Long Chain On</font></i>

1264
01:35:00,759 --> 01:35:03,793
<i>♪ One night as I lay on my pillow</i>

1265
01:35:05,093 --> 01:35:07,795
<i>♪ Moonlight as bright as the dawn</i>

1266
01:35:09,175 --> 01:35:12,007
<i>♪ I saw a man a-walkin'</i>

1267
01:35:13,175 --> 01:35:16,091
<i>♪ He had a long chain on</i>

1268
01:35:17,091 --> 01:35:19,759
<i>♪ I heard his chain a-clankin'</i>

1269
01:35:21,341 --> 01:35:24,210
<i>♪ It made a mournful sound</i>

1270
01:35:25,216 --> 01:35:27,882
<i>♪ Welded around his body</i>

1271
01:35:29,132 --> 01:35:32,048
<i>♪ Dragging along on the ground</i>

1272
01:35:33,259 --> 01:35:36,043
<i>♪ He had a long chain on</i>

1273
01:35:37,134 --> 01:35:39,834
<i>♪ He had a long chain on</i>

1274
01:35:41,298 --> 01:35:44,167
<i>♪ He had a long chain on</i>

1275
01:35:53,134 --> 01:35:55,798
<i>♪ He stood beside my window</i>

1276
01:35:57,174 --> 01:35:59,744
<i>♪ He looked at me and he said</i>

1277
01:36:00,715 --> 01:36:03,749
<i>♪ "I am so tired and hungry</i>

1278
01:36:05,050 --> 01:36:07,455
<i>♪ Give me a bite of your bread"</i>

1279
01:36:09,006 --> 01:36:11,495
<i>♪ He didn't look like a robber</i>

1280
01:36:12,924 --> 01:36:15,792
<i>♪ He didn't look like a thief</i>

1281
01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:19,499
<i>♪ His voice was as soft as the moonlight</i>

1282
01:36:20,674 --> 01:36:23,920
<i>♪ His face full of sorrow and grief</i>

1283
01:36:24,631 --> 01:36:27,499
<i>♪ He had a long chain on</i>

1284
01:36:28,715 --> 01:36:31,466
<i>♪ He had a long chain on</i>

1285
01:36:32,674 --> 01:36:36,087
<i>♪ He had a long chain on</i>

1286
01:36:36,799 --> 01:36:39,368
<i>♪ He had a long chain on</i>

1287
01:36:40,590 --> 01:36:43,872
<i>♪ He had a long chain on</i>

1288
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,507
<i>♪ He had a long chain on</i>