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Here's where we are.
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August 24 of last year
we had a guest on a panel
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about drones named Cyrus West,
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a retired Air Force captain
who now teaches at the Maxwell School.
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When the panel was done,
Captain West gave Jerry a tip
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about a black op with the codename Genoa.
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What did he tell you about Genoa?
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He told me that in March 2009, two Marines
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were separated from
their unit in the Hindu Kush.
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Intelligence told us
that they were captured by Taliban fighters,
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taken across the border into Pakistan,
held in a small village,
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and in a matter of a few hours
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they were gonna be sold
to al-Qaeda and publically beheaded.
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A MARSOC unit was
deployed to attempt an extraction.
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Two MH-60s, Black Hawks,
came in with 15 MARSOCs apiece.
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The first unit was overrun by the enemy
and trapped behind cover.
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- They were wearing MOPP gear.
- Mission Oriented Protective Posture.
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The second unit, also in MOPP gear,
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came in and successfully
extracted the prisoners
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as well as the first MARSOC unit.
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- How?
- By dropping sarin gas on the village.
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How would the prisoners have survived?
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We hit them with atropine
and dragged them onto the helos.
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- Everyone else was wearing MOPP gear.
- Everyone but the civilians.
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That was Cyrus West's story
and that was last August.
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Jerry then tracked down
a retired gunnery sergeant, Eric Sweeney.
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Jerry and I met with Sergeant Sweeney
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and the full transcript of that meeting
begins on page four in your binders.
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Sweeney describes rehearsals
for the mission...
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- In MOPP gear.
- ...and then describes the mission itself.
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He witnesses blinding smoke
and women and children
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with boils and burns on their faces.
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Back on the helicopter
he asks another member of his crew
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what that was all about
and he's told it was sarin.
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Jerry put a team together
to track down other members
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of the crew and any ground support,
but no one was talking.
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Neal then did a search
of any tweets from the area
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sent around March '09
and came up with Hamni8.
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The tweets from Hamni8
would seem to be describing
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what we'd heard
from Sergeant Sweeney and from Cyrus West.
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"Helicopters. Grenades."
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Then a moment later,
"Men in gas masks. Machine guns."
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A moment later, "Burning."
Then, "Americans. White smoke."
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Then, "Two helicopters.
No markings on them, but they're American."
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It's 32 minutes before the next tweet.
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"I think everyone's dead."
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We believe the reason for
the 32-minute gap is frequency hopping.
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We'd have jammed
the radio frequencies cell phones use.
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West is one, Sweeney is two, Hamni8 is three.
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Four is a humanitarian report
from a guy named Leon Deit.
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Deit was in the region working for an NGO
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and traveled to the site of the extraction
on verbal reports of a mass grave.
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The eyewitness accounts
are consistent with the use of sarin gas.
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And as you can see, the report includes
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pictures of the victims.
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Five is a confidential source
who confirmed the story
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and provided a copy
of the munitions manifest.
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The manifest included this item, MX-76.
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MX-76 doesn't exist.
It's a euphemism for classified material.
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We believe it's the sarin canisters.
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The five of us
as well as some other staffers
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have had a role in putting this together so far.
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We've purposely kept
a number of people out of the loop
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including Will for fresh eyes.
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Are there any questions?
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- Sarin gas?
- I don't believe it, either.
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I also don't believe in Santa Claus,
but if I saw eight reindeer take flight...
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To be clear, you haven't seen eight reindeer.
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You've talked to someone
who says he's seen eight reindeer.
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And we have someone
who's tweeted about the reindeer
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and a third witness
who's interviewed victims of the reindeer
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and a highly-placed
confidential source who's confirmed
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that in this place at that time, reindeer flew.
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It couldn't matter less,
but Santa Claus has nine reindeer.
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- Rudolph.
- Mac, I don't think...
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- Dasher, Dancer.
- Vixen, Blitzen.
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- How many was that?
- It really doesn't matter.
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- You believe we used sarin?
- Yes.
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- On civilians?
- Yes.
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- Dasher, Dancer, Prancer.
- What are you doing?
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Well, I'm digesting what I just heard.
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I'm doing a fact check
on the number of reindeer.
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Dasher, Dancer, Prancer,
Comet, Blitzen, Cupid,
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Donner, Vixen, and somebody else.
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- Rudolph.
- Thank you.
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- Wait, how many was that?
- Start again.
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No. Do we even have sarin gas?
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We aren't supposed to.
It was supposed to be destroyed by 2007
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according to the
Chemical Weapons Convention.
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But it wasn't. We still have it.
The DOD confirms that.
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We may have it, but we've never used it.
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We didn't use it in World War II,
Korea, Vietnam, the first Gulf War,
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and we were fighting people that did have...
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Those all happened before 9/11.
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We torture people now.
We kidnap them, wiretap them...
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- Drop deadly gas on civilians?
- It happened, Jim.
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This is the one we know about.
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- The original tip came from Cyrus West?
- I know, but...
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- He's not reliable.
- His crime was not being good on television.
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But he led us to Eric Sweeney, so who cares?
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What about the Marines who were rescued?
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We don't know their names
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and they wouldn't have been
in a good position to know what happened.
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Sweeney says they were in a hole
in back of one of the houses.
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And then they were exposed to the gas.
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They would have known
if they were hit with an atropine.
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Probably, but it doesn't matter.
We don't know who they are
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and we've been looking for seven months.
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We have 30 names and here they are.
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These were given to us by Sweeney.
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None of them is talking with the exception
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of Lance Corporal Herman Valenzuela
who's dead.
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It sounded like you said Herman Valenzuela,
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in spite of being dead, is talking.
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- I wasn't saying that.
- I was confused by that, too.
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Valenzuela was killed in action,
the other 29 aren't talking.
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What about Hamni8?
Have you tried to track him down?
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Yes, but he's gone.
We believe given his proximity to the raid
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that he was killed.
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Well, or that he couldn't pay for his cell plan.
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Those are two pretty different things.
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Have we put boots on the ground to
see if there's any locals we can talk to?
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You can't send Americans in there
or anyone working for Americans.
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- A local fixer?
- It's much too dangerous.
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- What does Tapley say?
- Who?
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Mike Tapley, our military analyst,
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who I don't know why
we didn't use him instead of West.
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'Cause I was producing the segment.
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Neither Mike nor our Pentagon correspondent
have been brought in.
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The Pentagon
would go into shutdown.
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We'll ask for comment 24 hours before air.
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Before air?
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We're really talking about...
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Charlie, be the voice of reason.
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I think it happened
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and I think
we're two inches away from proving it.
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It's always 50-50 when you ask Charlie
to be the voice of reason.
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- Nobody's saying it's ready to air.
- I'm saying it's ready.
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It certainly is not.
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And we can keep calling the names
on the list till St. Swithin's Day,
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but we have a better chance of
getting Herman Valenzuela to talk
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than any of the other 29.
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So we started looking
for someone not on the list.
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A flag officer who'd be
in a position to confirm the mission. Neal?
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We ran five separate searches
and cross-referenced
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the five search parameters
which were the following,
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recently retired generals who have attempted
to publish work that was heavily redacted,
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commanders who have served as head
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of the Marines Combat Logistics
and Munitions Element,
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generals who've taken
academic positions since retiring
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who've been critical
of the US stockpile of chemical weapons,
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and flag officers who were on active duty
when Genoa took place.
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When we think Genoa took place.
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There's one name that meets all five criteria.
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This is three-star Marine
General Stanislaus Stomtonovich.
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He was a munitions consultant at White Sands
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and an expert on the US
chemical weapons program.
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He retired six months
after Genoa and lives in Silver Spring.
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You're gonna call and ask him
if we dropped sarin gas on a small village?
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- No, we're going to his house.
- Charlie, God damn it.
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He's already alerted
the Pentagon's Office of Public Affairs.
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He thinks we're coming about something else.
We're just getting in the vestibule.
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But eventually, you will ask him the question?
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Yeah.
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Do you understand
what we're accusing them of?
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We do, Jim, yeah.
And I think we're less concerned
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with what we're accusing
them of than we are with what they did.
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What you think they did,
which I still can't hardly believe
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my fucking ears we're even talking about.
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- What was the general's name?
- Stomtonovich.
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How are you gonna question Stomtonovich
without him knowing what you're asking?
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We're gonna ask him how chemical weapons
would be stored and deployed.
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- What's the cover story?
- Libya.
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You've been on this for seven months?
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Do you believe the story?
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I don't know.
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Have we nailed down the number of reindeer?
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I see you.
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You seem really excited every time this works.
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Is it because you're seeing me
or is it because of the technology?
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- The technology.
- I get that.
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But tomorrow night
it'll be because I'm seeing you.
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I'll tell you why
you should be excited about tomorrow night.
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I got a suite at the Soho Grand.
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- It cost three years' salary.
- I like you.
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- That's such great news for me.
- It really is.
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So I'll pick you up at the event at 10:00.
I'll be out in the lobby. We'll go to dinner
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and then back to the hotel for,
you know, discretionary time.
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- Speaking of dinner...
- What's about to happen?
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- Do you know Aubrey Lerner?
- No.
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- Her byline is AK.
- I don't know her.
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- AK Lerner.
- I don't know her,
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but I feel like she's about to
be an obstacle in my path to...
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- Discretionary time?
- Yes.
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No, she's been on the press plane
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for a couple of weeks
and she reports for mtvU.
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It sounds like she'd have a really good time
staying home by herself tomorrow.
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I don't think you should rob her of that.
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She stays at her parents' place
when she's in New York
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and I thought she could come out to
dinner with us tomorrow night
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and you could bring Neal.
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I think they'd really hit it off
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and you said he just broke up with somebody.
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Neal's always just broken up with somebody.
He calls it going home in the morning.
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It'll be a fun foursome.
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- Dinner and then straight to the hotel.
- How many of us?
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Jim, I'll have just finished covering
a $5,000-a-plate dinner.
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I'll be in cocktail attire.
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Do it. Do it.
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Whatever she's asking to do, do it. Do it now.
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- You gonna be okay?
- Yeah.
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- Hey, Gary.
- Hey, Hallie.
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In terms of what you're gonna be wearing,
could you describe exactly what...
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I'll see you guys tomorrow at 10:00?
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- In the ballroom lobby.
- I've got to go.
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I'll talk to you later.
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Neal.
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Harry Truman dubbed the 80th
Congress the "Do-Nothing Congress."
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Its productivity, measured by this bar,
shows the number of laws they passed.
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The productivity of the 112th
Congress is measured by this bar.
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The 112th Congress has not yet
passed one sixth of the laws
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of the Do-Nothing Congress.
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But let's look at the laws they have passed.
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Congressman Peter Roskam
represents the 6th District of Illinois.
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Illinois has the fourth
highest unemployment rate
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in the country with 9.9%
of its workforce out of work.
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So Congressman Roskam introduced
House Resolution 21-39,
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which would require
the Secretary of the Treasury
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to mint coins in commemoration
of the centennial of the Lions Club.
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Congressman Randy Forbes of Virginia
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sponsored a bill reaffirming
"In God We Trust" as our national motto,
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a motto already made official in 1956,
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2002, 2006 and now 2011.
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One in four American children
are living in poverty,
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but the motto should take care of that.
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We're fighting a war, a stagnant economy,
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a failing education system
and climate change.
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The 112th Congress
has renamed 40 post offices.
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Richard Shelby, the ranking Republican
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on the Senate Banking Committee,
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blocked the appointment
of MIT economist Peter Diamond
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to a vacant seat on the Federal Reserve Board.
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Said Shelby, "I do not believe
the current environment of uncertainty
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"would benefit from
monetary policy decisions
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"made by board members
who are learning on the job."
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While Senator Shelby held up
Peter Diamond's nomination
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on the grounds that Diamond
was insufficiently qualified
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to counsel the Federal Reserve Board,
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Peter Diamond won
the Nobel Prize for economics.
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- You busy?
- No.
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Hey, this may sound nuts,
but I'm looking at the movie John Carter
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as a possible subject
for my News Night segment.
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What about it?
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Well, it's about a Civil War Confederate officer
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who's transported to Mars,
which is a lush planet
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inhabited by 12-foot-tall barbarians.
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Because of his different bone density
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and the planet's low gravity,
John Carter can jump...
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I said, "What about it?" not,
"What's it about?" Also, you know, spoilers.
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Okay, well, it's projected to
lose about 200 million for Disney.
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You want to do the economics of Hollywood?
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Say what you want,
but they're one of the few American industries
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still making a product people want to buy.
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Doesn't sound like
they want to buy John Carter.
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Well, that's my point.
Nobody's gonna ask for a bailout
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and Disney stock is relatively safe.
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Entertainment is one of our
highest revenue-generating exports
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and they employ members
of 17 different unions,
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all of which have excellent
minimum basic contracts.
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They may take it in the teeth on John Carter,
but nobody's gonna get hurt.
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It's still early. It's just a first idea.
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- Yeah, no, it sounds good.
- What are you doing?
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Looking at last night's show.
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- They did a focus group?
- No.
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There are dial lines
on the bottom of the screen.
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Yeah, those are just... That's...
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What's going on?
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I did a focus group. I did it myself.
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I called our company and did it on my own.
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They did the dials
and a moderator got comments after.
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- Why?
- Why?
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- Yeah.
- To check in.
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Why does a politician take polls?
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To find out what people
want him to say the next day.
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Are you comfortable with that analogy?
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Charlie doesn't allow me
to be tested anymore.
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So I did it myself.
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We have kind of
a big brother-little sister relationship.
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- Which one are you?
- And the little sister always ends up
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chewing out the big brother
and he says, "Thanks, sis."
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This is on Nickelodeon?
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- Never mind.
- Are you preparing for a chewing out?
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Nah.
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You forgot to ask me
how the test scores were.
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I didn't forget.
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427. 427.
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Are the odd numbers
on the right side or the left side?
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I can't see any numbers yet.
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All right, you look on the right side,
I'll look on the left side.
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I'm already on the left side.
Why don't you look on the right side?
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I'll look on the right side.
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Hey, found it.
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- Is it this house or that house?
- I don't know.
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Let's just clean this up
and ring both doorbells.
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What are you doing in my garbage cans?
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- General Stomtonovich?
- Yeah.
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I'm sorry we're a little late.
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What are you doing in my garbage cans?
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We ran over them with our rental car.
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We're just gonna get this cleaned up.
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Were you texting?
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No, sir. It was regular negligence.
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Well, hurry up and tell me what you want.
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I'm sorry, sir. You're General Stom...
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I know who I am.
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I'm asking who you are
and how I can help you.
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- I'm Charlie Skinner.
- MacKenzie McHale.
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Hmm.
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How about if I write you a check for $100
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and you send the magazine
subscriptions to whoever you want?
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Sir, we spoke to you on the phone yesterday.
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We made an appointment
to see you here at your house.
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Yeah, right. That's too bad.
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I like arguing with Jehovah's Witnesses.
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You want to know
how chemical weapons are stored?
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Yes, sir.
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All right.
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What is the Marine
Combat Munitions Element?
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We oversee all or almost all
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of the munitions
supplies for the entirety of the Marine Corps.
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- Bullets, bombs...
- And that includes chemical...
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Foul him. Foul him now!
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And he buries a three.
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March Madness.
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Best sporting event on Earth.
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Better than the Super Bowl, World Series...
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- Better than the World Cup?
- World Cup?
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- What are you, from Brazil?
- Brooklyn.
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2003, Gaddafi announced Libya
would voluntarily eliminate all materials,
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equipment and programs,
but they've still got 'em.
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- How about us?
- The US?
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- Yeah.
- Do we still have chemical weapons?
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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- We do?
- Yeah.
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Do you believe chemical weapons
are a legitimate weapon of war?
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I believe chemical weapons,
like any other weapons,
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are tools to be used to kill the enemy.
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Which tool you use
depends on battlefield circumstance.
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- And collateral damage?
- It doesn't make much difference
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to the collateral damage
whether it's damage by gas
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or a Hellfire missile, does it?
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So you think chemical weapons
should be part of our arsenal?
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Part of ours, not Libya's.
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Do you think
we should be able to use chemical weapons?
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Missed free throws is what kills you.
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General?
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I don't think I want to
talk about chemical weapons.
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- We think you do.
- Yeah?
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During a speech
at the War College two years ago,
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you were openly critical
of the destruction of our stockpiles.
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You've commissioned
two studies citing the potential need
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for chemical weapons in combat situations
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and your book was so heavily redacted
that all that was left were pronouns.
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Why are you two big shots
in Silver Spring, Maryland,
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running into my garbage cans
and asking me about sarin?
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General, we never mentioned sarin.
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We know about Genoa.
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You can't touch a shooter
while he's in the process of shooting the ball.
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It's against the rules.
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Shooter goes to the foul line,
takes two free throws.
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But what happens
if the shooter brandishes a knife?
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He's dribbling the ball
and he suddenly takes out a switchblade.
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You're allowed to grab his arm now
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because we're not playing
basketball anymore.
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This is a helo manifest.
Can you confirm it's authentic?
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It's an authentic helo manifest.
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Can you confirm that Genoa happened?
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Why would I confirm, even off the record,
the existence of a classified mission?
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Because you believe
very strongly that if the shooter
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takes a knife out,
it shouldn't be illegal to grab his arm.
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Here are my conditions.
You black out my face.
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- Sure.
- Alter my voice.
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- Mmm-hmm.
- That's it.
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We do it right here noon tomorrow.
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I want to be able to watch the games.
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- Not during the interview.
- I'm not turning that TV off.
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I don't know how many years
I have left after this thing goes on the air.
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The producer's name is Jerry Dantana.
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He's from the DC bureau
and it's been his story from the beginning.
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We have to head back to New York, General.
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It was nice meeting you.
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We won't have any more communication
after this unless it's necessary.
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How did he find it... Dantana?
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How did he find the story?
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Just a lucky tip.
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And then very late in my political career,
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I had the opportunity
to read the speech and I almost threw up.
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The speech that almost made
Senator Santorum vomit
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was given by John F. Kennedy
in Houston, Texas, in 1960.
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The presidential candidate
was answering concerns
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that his Catholicism
would be his compass in the Oval Office.
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And the Houston speech
made a forceful argument
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for a firewall between
religion, any religion, and government.
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With us by satellite
from Boulder, Colorado, is Randall Dell,
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President of the League of Catholic
Voters and a Santorum supporter.
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- Mr. Dell, welcome.
- Good to be here.
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The common wisdom
is that political candidates
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shouldn't be asked
about their religious beliefs.
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I agree with that.
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But what if a candidate makes their religious
beliefs part of their candidacy?
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Is there a candidate who's doing that?
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- The candidate you support is doing that.
- That's not true, sir.
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Is Rick Santorum devout? Yes.
Does his faith guide his actions? Yes.
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Does he say so every day
in campaign speeches? He does.
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Let's put this quote up on the screen.
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- G17-a.
- Got it.
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Rick Santorum speaking
at a Tea Party event in Columbus.
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He said this in regard
to President Obama's climate change agenda.
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"It's not about your quality of life.
It's not about your jobs.
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"It's about some phony ideal.
Some phony theology.
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"Oh, not a theology based on the Bible.
A different theology."
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Mr. Dell, one of Rick Santorum's problems
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with the president's plan
to combat climate change
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is that its roots can't be found in the Bible.
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We have a lot of reasons to be
concerned with Obama's plans,
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but you're plainly distorting
Rick Santorum's words.
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I don't think I am,
but let's go to this instead.
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- 17B.
- Up.
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- Thirty seconds.
- Let it go long.
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...at the Press and People of Faith
in Politics forum in 2008.
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"I think there are
a lot of problems with the theory of evolution
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"and I do believe it is used to promote
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"a world view
that is anti-theist, that is atheist.
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"You should have academic freedom
in the classroom when teaching about life."
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- That was 2008. Mr. Santorum...
- Ready 18.
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...made those remarks
when he didn't hold office.
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- He was speaking as a private citizen.
- Ready.
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- Go.
- He was speaking in defense of an amendment
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he offered in 2001 when he was a US Senator,
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making it a federal law that,
"Where topics are taught
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"that may generate controversy,
such as biological evolution,
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"the curriculum should help
students to understand
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"the full range of scientific views that exist."
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By full range of scientific views,
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- he's including Genesis, right?
- That's right.
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It seems like far from objecting that religion
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be brought up in political campaigns,
he's insisting on it.
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And here's Rick Santorum's opponent,
Mitt Romney,
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- asking us not to ask about his religion.
- 22.
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That idea that we should choose people
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based upon their religion for public office
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is what I find to be most troubling,
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because the founders of this country
went to great length
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to make sure,
and even put it in the Constitution,
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that we would not choose
people who represent us
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in government based upon their religion.
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And now here he is invoking his religion.
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The Declaration of Independence
established our rights
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by saying that they were created
not by government, but by the Creator.
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We are endowed
by our Creator with certain unalienable rights.
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I will fight to preserve America's tradition
as a religious nation.
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So, can we really not ask
these candidates questions
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about what they believe
with regard to religion?
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Well, like what?
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Like is it important that you and I
have the same definition of "creator"?
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They plainly meant God.
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That's not plain to everybody.
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Like right there.
Just a smile would have made it folksier.
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Also, honey,
you've got to stay away from religion.
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You know you're just asking for it.
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What else am I supposed to talk about
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with the President
of the League of Catholic Voters?
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You don't have him on as a guest.
That's another thing.
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00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,270
You want guests that don't
make you look so combative.
475
00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,238
That's why your likability numbers are down.
476
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,113
- I don't know. I think I'm likable.
- I think you're lovable.
477
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,238
- Thank you.
- But your numbers are problematic.
478
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,952
Listen to me, I'd like dinner to last
10 to 15 minutes.
479
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,474
You don't like to linger.
480
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,472
I'm doing my lingering
somewhere else tonight,
481
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,950
so we're not ordering
anything that takes a long time to prepare.
482
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,635
We're not ordering anything well-done.
We're not ordering anything cooked.
483
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,074
It's okay with me if we don't order anything.
484
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,594
It's not going to be okay with the restaurant.
485
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,796
Screw the restaurant, Neal.
486
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,395
The restaurant hasn't
not seen his girlfriend in a month.
487
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,076
The restaurant's girlfriend
isn't wearing cocktail attire.
488
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,516
- You gonna be okay?
- Yeah, I'm fine.
489
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,479
Six minutes and 20 seconds.
490
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,074
God, it's you.
491
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,038
That's how long you spent
tonight on Etch-a-Sketch.
492
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,479
- Six minutes and 20 seconds.
- Hey, Taylor.
493
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,398
- Hi, Jim.
- You look very nice.
494
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,751
- Thank you.
- This is Neal Sampat. We work together.
495
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,116
Neal, this is Taylor Warren,
a Romney campaign spokesman.
496
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,510
- Woman... Spokesperson.
- Nice to meet you.
497
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,319
- You work for ACN?
- Yes.
498
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,160
I loathe you in ways that are unquantifiable.
499
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,830
Cool.
500
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,435
- You must be excited to see Hallie.
- I am.
501
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,558
I mentioned to Hallie that I didn't have
anything to do in the city tonight.
502
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,676
No.
503
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,433
And she said
that I should join you guys for dinner.
504
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,878
You should see
the look on your face.
505
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,191
Don't worry, I know you had
a special night planned,
506
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,192
so of course I'm coming along.
You know why?
507
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,555
Because we spent
six minutes and 20 seconds...
508
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,790
On Etch-a-Sketch, yeah.
509
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,270
- It was a story and you know it.
- No, it was a gaffe and you know it.
510
00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:53,159
He came out and said, "Don't worry about
anything I've said during the primary.
511
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,674
"I can be whatever you want me to be."
512
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,194
He didn't say it. Fehrnstrom did.
513
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,794
And how do you expect us to juggle
514
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,600
very diverse coalitions
inside the Republican party?
515
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,354
- Really glad I came tonight.
- There's no way you're coming to dinner.
516
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,715
Jim.
517
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,512
- I've missed you.
- You look amazing.
518
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,000
- Plus?
- I've missed you, too.
519
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,673
There it is. This is Aubrey.
520
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,479
Hey, it's nice to meet you. Neal.
521
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,359
Okay, full disclosure,
the press wasn't allowed any food,
522
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,272
but we stole a couple bottles of Chardonnay
523
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:22,397
- and I am wicked hammered.
- Okay.
524
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,678
- Neal, this is Aubrey.
- Hey.
525
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,836
- Nice to meet you.
- Full disclosure...
526
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,070
The press wasn't allowed any food,
527
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,594
but we stole a couple bottles of Chardonnay...
528
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,712
- Wicked hammered.
- You said that already.
529
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,234
We're gonna get some food in your stomach.
530
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,232
Maybe that's not necessary.
531
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,313
So, listen, Taylor's kind of sad tonight.
532
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,278
I don't know why,
so I asked her to come to dinner.
533
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:43,079
She's not sad. She's mad 'cause we did
534
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,072
six minutes and 20 seconds on Etch-a-Sketch.
535
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,039
And now I have to have a dinner with her
that could last up to a half hour.
536
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:49,839
You're afraid of Taylor.
537
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,071
Being afraid of Taylor
is just good common sense.
538
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,919
- Anybody hungry?
- I can boot and rally.
539
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,559
Let's do it.
540
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,711
- You here alone?
- Yeah. You?
541
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,029
I am.
542
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,638
This is what I do now.
I drink alone at bars late at night.
543
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,280
See, men can do that with no stigma attached.
544
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:06,430
- Women...
- Women can vote
545
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,273
and your vote counts the same as my vote.
546
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,319
I'm really supposed to worry about a stigma?
547
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,956
Oh, Don.
548
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,440
Don, Don.
549
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,640
Don.
550
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,360
Are you happy with that name?
551
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,151
Pretty happy. Never really thought about it.
552
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,560
How'd it go in Maryland?
553
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,160
He confirmed.
554
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,030
Will he do it on camera?
555
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:30,949
- Find out tomorrow.
- Hey, Mac.
556
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,509
- What do you say, Chelsea?
- You here alone?
557
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,557
- Don't stigmatize her.
- Where's the gang?
558
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,279
Jim and Neal are on a double date,
559
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:39,317
Sloan is out with a New York Giant,
560
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,235
and Will's having
a quiet night at home with Mrs. Macbeth.
561
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,120
He took some questions
from the audience
562
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,998
and somebody asked him
if he thought the court
563
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,480
was going to overturn the ACA.
564
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,472
And I thought he was
gonna duck the question,
565
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,153
but he answered for about two minutes.
566
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,118
- What did he say?
- I swear to God, I don't know.
567
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,793
Can I ask something?
568
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,156
What's the fucking obsession
with Ann Romney's horse?
569
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,675
- Reagan had a horse.
- His horse didn't dance.
570
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,070
So fucking what, James? It's a clever horse.
571
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,594
It's an Olympian. It's a horse.
572
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,194
And what in this is bad?
573
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,351
And how do you know
that Reagan's horse didn't dance?
574
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,874
It's a reasonable question, James.
575
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,679
How did you get into campaign reporting?
576
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,070
I told my bosses that nobody
was covering Ron Paul
577
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,680
and they were like, "Go do it yourself."
578
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,558
And I was like, "Really?"
And they were like, "Really."
579
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,359
So Ron Paul, 2012!
580
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,715
- Is this your...
581
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,031
- Okay.
- Seriously?
582
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,873
Yeah, she's into it.
583
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,479
- Hey.
- Hi.
584
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,279
- You're back again.
- Yeah.
585
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,750
- It was Stoli and tonic?
- Yeah.
586
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,758
- I'm Devon.
- Maggie.
587
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,719
I admire MacKenzie.
588
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,712
- And Charlie.
- So do I.
589
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,473
I know you do.
590
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,200
But I wonder
if it's blinding you to certain things.
591
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,600
Like what?
592
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,956
Well, honey, every night
you cross examine somebody.
593
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,236
They're using your prosecutorial skills.
594
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,552
Wait. First, they're not my puppet masters.
I'm the managing editor.
595
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,359
But don't you always listen to MacKenzie?
596
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,318
- Not always.
- What percent of the time?
597
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,993
I don't know. But the idea is
598
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,037
that we cross examine
people from time to time.
599
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:09,555
- We?
- A lot of staff prep goes into those segments.
600
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,313
But the staff's face isn't on camera.
601
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,471
What are we talking about?
602
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,232
Are you being sacrificed
603
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,552
so that Mac and Charlie
can do the show they want to do?
604
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,194
It's the show I want to do, too.
605
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,839
- Is it?
- Yeah.
606
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,437
Then that's that.
If it's the show you want to do,
607
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,678
then who cares how many people like you?
I like you.
608
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,230
It actually doesn't measure
how many people like you.
609
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:34,840
It measures how much people like you.
610
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,434
- How much?
- Yeah.
611
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,592
- That's not something that can be measured.
- That's right.
612
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,479
So this is really all there is to go on?
613
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,200
Do you fully trust Jerry Dantana?
614
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,954
- Why wouldn't I?
- No reason. I was just curious.
615
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,600
- But there's a reason you're asking.
- There really isn't.
616
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,956
- Can I tell you what it is?
- It was just curiosity.
617
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,952
- It's 'cause he's not Jim.
- Please.
618
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,714
Jerry has committed
the crime of not being Jim Harper.
619
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,792
You know how long it took you to trust me?
620
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,349
- How long?
- I'll let you know when it happens.
621
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,591
I completely trust you.
622
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,912
- Do you?
- With my life, Don.
623
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,832
Thank you. That's nice to hear.
624
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,480
You know, when I look at you...
625
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,473
- Sloan's going out with a football player?
- Yeah.
626
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,313
- Who?
- I don't remember his name.
627
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,800
- You know what position he plays?
- No.
628
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,314
- Offense or defense?
- I don't know.
629
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,720
Why don't you just ask her out?
630
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,359
After she's gone out
with a professional athlete
631
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,399
who's 10 years younger than I am
with three percent body fat
632
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,119
and ripped muscles
that have been conditioned
633
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,556
over a lifetime of two-a-days sweating...
634
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,393
How long have you been
thinking about this guy?
635
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,914
How am I supposed to follow that?
636
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,794
- And, you know...
- Get it done?
637
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,951
I can get it done.
638
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,360
I'm saying...
639
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,910
get it done in a spectacular fashion.
640
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,599
This is how most men think?
641
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,991
This is how every single man thinks
except for the guy out with Sloan right now.
642
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,959
And that's why you haven't asked her out?
643
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,239
Sometimes she subs in for Elliot
and sometimes she does a segment with us,
644
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,834
which means sometimes I'm her boss.
645
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,674
That stopped absolutely no one here,
including you and Maggie.
646
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,320
That worked out phenomenally well.
647
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,119
Nothing that happened to her is your fault.
648
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,840
- It's really good.
- Me, too.
649
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,679
That's the spicy Shanghai soup noodles,
650
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,474
- chilled silken tofu garlic and herbs?
- Yes, it is.
651
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,313
- How'd you recognize that?
- It's kind of a hobby.
652
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,357
And here's the charred
chili rubbed beef skewer.
653
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,193
- With Thai basil dipping sauce.
- That's right.
654
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,555
- So, Jim.
- Yeah?
655
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,040
- I have to tell you something.
- Okay.
656
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,510
The Sex and the City story
is off-the-charts awesome.
657
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,239
- What's the Sex and the City story?
- Please, no.
658
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:37,635
- You haven't heard this?
- I haven't.
659
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,518
Is it an embarrassing story about Jim?
660
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,592
- It's not embarrassing. It's sweet.
- I'd like to hear it.
661
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,194
I'd like to hear it as many times
662
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,114
as ACN's run
the "I like to fire people" sound bite.
663
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,556
- Everybody ran it, Taylor.
- And everybody, including you,
664
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,552
knew what he meant when he said it.
665
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,393
Let's play the game
where we identify the food.
666
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,836
- What's this?
- You're pointing at rice.
667
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,394
I believe that's correct.
668
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,233
You know, I could tell the story...
669
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,710
- Yep.
- ...or we can watch it on YouTube.
670
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,320
Oh, sweet.
671
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,477
I'm starting to feel responsible for this.
672
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,639
What about ACN Morning?
673
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,155
- You think I should go on?
- I think you should start there.
674
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,589
I think you need to warm yourself up
and a morning show is a great place to start.
675
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,433
Just go on and do some jokes?
676
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,513
Just be you. Nebraska farm boy.
677
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,195
The guy who knows
how to build his own cabin.
678
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,073
I don't know how to build my own cabin.
679
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,073
Well, you seem like you do.
You need to seem like you do.
680
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,271
Midwestern. You used to steal
681
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,750
your mother's pies when
she put them out to cool.
682
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,240
You're confusing me with a hobo.
683
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,312
- You know what I'm saying.
- I think I do.
684
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,278
- Then do it.
- Okay.
685
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,278
- How about tomorrow morning?
- Well, it's after midnight.
686
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,797
ACN is a network built around one person.
687
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,237
You call the EP,
tell him you're coming on in the morning.
688
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,279
You'll feel better
once you start to turn this around.
689
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,239
- I will feel better.
- 75s become 85s fast,
690
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,551
but they become 55s faster.
691
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,960
All right.
692
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,317
That gentleman over there
would like to buy this for you.
693
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,954
This is nice of you, but I have to tell you
I'm just hanging out alone tonight.
694
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,117
- That's okay.
- It's nothing personal.
695
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,395
The drink's on me anyway.
696
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,551
Very kind. Thank you.
697
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,433
- I'm just thinking my thoughts.
- Understood.
698
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,312
I have a number of questions.
699
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,110
I'll try to answer them with the same detail
and honesty you've always answered mine.
700
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,840
What were you doing on
a Sex and the City tour bus to begin with?
701
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,152
My girlfriend at the time liked the show
and I was showing an interest in her interests.
702
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,994
And Maggie didn't know you were on the bus
when she shouted that she loved you?
703
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,355
That's not what she shouted.
704
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,840
- And she didn't know someone was filming it?
- No.
705
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,832
- So it was kind of a gaffe?
- Lady, I...
706
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,674
Life and death and you guys
can't get past "corporations are people."
707
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,719
How fast are we supposed to get past
"Hispanics should self-deport"
708
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,553
or "I'm not concerned with the very poor"?
709
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,314
"There's a safety net there"
was the end of that sentence,
710
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,596
and plainly his concern
is with the middle class.
711
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,239
The middle class are the very poor.
712
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,358
The better point is
we don't need clean air and water regulations.
713
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,274
We don't need FEMA.
We don't need antitrust laws.
714
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,513
We don't need the IRS or the Department of
Education or the Federal Reserve.
715
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,677
We need freedom.
716
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,720
What the fuck did you just say?
717
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,712
If you listen to Ron Paul...
718
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,031
I have. He's a batty old crank
719
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,158
who wrote instruction manuals on how to
get away with shooting the black kid
720
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,197
who's stealing your car. He's not Betty White.
721
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,879
- He didn't write those letters.
- Yes, he did.
722
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,031
And then he signed them
and then he charged money for them.
723
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,589
So I don't give a shit
if he wants to legalize weed.
724
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,637
I can already dial the phone
and have an ounce
725
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,234
delivered to this table
before the check comes.
726
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,277
- Then for God's sake, do it.
- The check will never come.
727
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,113
They won't let Romney
get his message out, either.
728
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,237
Someone should tell him
if he wants to get his message out,
729
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,880
he should consider appearing on a network
730
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,634
where the entire audience
isn't already voting for him
731
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,757
and that if he's gonna be
the businessman president,
732
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,072
he should run on his business record
instead of pretending he's never heard of it
733
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,119
and that if faith is important to
his good works and personal narrative,
734
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,759
he shouldn't be afraid it'll creep us out.
735
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,240
- It's been suggested.
- And?
736
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,754
I was fired.
737
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920
- I was fired tonight.
- You were fired?
738
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,480
- Yeah.
- For suggesting...
739
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,120
No, I suggested other things, too.
740
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,394
I'm sorry.
741
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,952
You were a good spokesperson for him.
742
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,271
You should go work for Ron Paul.
743
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,114
We need to rebound from dinner.
744
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,600
- Yeah.
- Bounce back.
745
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,637
- I've already bounced.
- It's just us now.
746
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,871
With a little over six hours.
747
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,400
This is...
748
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,235
Maggie?
749
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,877
- Hi.
- What are you doing here?
750
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,919
I'm just having a drink
with a friend of mine from college.
751
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,878
What are you doing here?
752
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,675
Jim's fixing my computer. I'm staying here.
753
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,037
This is Hallie Shea.
Hallie, this is Maggie Jordan.
754
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,720
- Hi. You, too.
- It's nice to meet you.
755
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,754
Well, we should...
756
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,277
- I have to be on the press plane pretty early.
- Yeah.
757
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,232
- Good meeting you.
- You, too.
758
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,879
See you later.
759
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,993
- That was nice of you.
- I doubt it mattered.
760
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,750
Wow.
761
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,160
Is there something wrong with the room?
762
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,873
I am not unskilled in the ways of courtship.
763
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,351
I know, babe, but still, just saying that...
764
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,072
I am pouring you some champagne
765
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,356
and then taking a hot shower.
766
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,433
Can I offer you a Toblerone from the minibar?
767
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,996
- Honey.
- What is it?
768
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,994
They just added on an event
at a base in Colorado for the morning.
769
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,480
For tomorrow morning?
770
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,791
I have to be on a plane in 90 minutes.
771
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,795
Are you religious?
772
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,480
- In my way.
- Me, too.
773
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,111
I think the way
you know you've broken one of God's rules
774
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:19,199
is if you can't put it back together again.
775
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,116
You kidnap an entire people,
776
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,590
make them slaves, it's 300 years later
777
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,239
and we can't put it back together again.
778
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,959
You and Will?
779
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,713
Doesn't really seem like the same scale.
780
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,156
- As slavery?
- Yeah.
781
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:33,560
- No.
782
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,113
But here we are.
783
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,713
- You should go out.
- I do.
784
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,916
You'll meet someone.
785
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,714
You're sure you trust Jerry?
786
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,473
I have no reason not to.
787
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,191
Mac, if Charlie green lights it
and Will and the lawyers,
788
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,919
you still have to consider not running it.
789
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,878
- I know.
- The size of this...
790
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,838
- I've thought about the risk.
- Embassies will be attacked.
791
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,400
- POWs will...
- There'll be protests.
792
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,073
Protests in some countries
look a lot like riots.
793
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,435
Muslims will go crazy.
794
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,557
I was at Newsweek in 2005.
795
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,477
For the guy who flushed
a Koran down the toilet?
796
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,279
Yeah. We report the story
797
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,238
and two months later,
the London subway blows up.
798
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,516
- It's not clear the two were connected.
- The bomber's cousin said...
799
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,553
- Somebody was gonna report it.
- Ah, maybe not.
800
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,600
Maybe not.
801
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,960
Anyway, I hope you're considering
cause and effect,
802
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,679
'cause if we broke one of God's rules,
803
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,991
it might be best just to shut up about it.
804
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,272
Where's your friend?
805
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,194
Oh, she took off. I'm just paying the check.
806
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,151
Did you fix her computer?
807
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:01,471
No, I wasn't really able to.
808
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,792
Because you don't know shit
about fixing computers?
809
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,512
This thing we've been talking about,
810
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,637
- Jerry's thing...
- Yeah?
811
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,909
Secrecy is incredibly important.
812
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,751
I've been working on it for seven months
and you didn't hear about it, right?
813
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,593
- Yeah.
- Okay.
814
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,354
Just be careful when you're drinking.
815
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,680
I will.
816
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,555
- Hey, you ready to go?
- Yeah.
817
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,872
I think you're supposed
to be paying the check.
818
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,713
She's all covered.
819
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,876
And you were
a high school athlete.
820
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,996
That's right.
821
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,673
There's another thing
we didn't know about you.
822
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,036
Baseball and football.
Pitcher and quarterback.
823
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,919
- It was a small school.
- The question is were you any good?
824
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,596
- I wasn't bad.
- Well, we're gonna find out right now.
825
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,796
- Uh-oh.
826
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,717
We're gonna have you stand on this line
and make five throws.
827
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,599
Every throw that goes
through the tire is $1,000
828
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,558
to the Sloan-Kettering
Memorial Cancer Research Center.
829
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,915
It seems like cancer research
830
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,559
shouldn't have to depend
on my throwing accuracy.
831
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,996
- Come on now, don't chicken out, McAvoy.
- All right.
832
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,152
Wait, there's one more piece of apparatus.
833
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:26,993
I don't think I'm gonna need a helmet,
834
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,474
- unless you guys plan on...
- Oh, it's just for fun.
835
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,597
It's a morning show.
We have fun here.
836
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,672
- Yeah, all right.
- There it is.
837
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,234
All right, this is for cancer research.
838
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,152
On the line.
839
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:37,879
On your mark. Get...
840
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,831
I know you think it went badly, but it didn't.
841
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,036
I have to do two things...
842
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,152
I have to write a huge check
to Sloan-Kettering
843
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,197
and then I absolutely
have to break up with you.
844
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,749
They're both important.
I get why the first one has to come first,
845
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,117
but the second one
has to come right after, no delay.
846
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,955
Why didn't you just say
I shouldn't worry about the number?
847
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,599
Because you should.
848
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,718
I was aiming for the fucking light tree.
849
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,192
You didn't care
that you scored in the high 90s
850
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,397
in trust and intelligence?
851
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,439
- You looked like Dukakis riding in the tank.
- I know.
852
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,080
I've done a comprehensive study
on your psychological profile.
853
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,800
"Introduction to First Year Adult Psychology."
854
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,952
I haven't read the whole thing,
but I read from page eight to...
855
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,157
Well, I've read most of page eight.
856
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,799
And here's what happened to you.
857
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,633
A long, long time ago,
858
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:34,518
you were doing a show
you liked with MacKenzie.
859
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,796
Then she broke your heart.
Then you started doing a different show.
860
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,918
A softer show.
A show built around your likeable personality.
861
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,310
And the love you got
from the audience filled, almost,
862
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,039
the hole in your heart.
863
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,909
You're happy from 8:00 to 9:00
and miserable the other 23 hours.
864
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,469
You feel more comfortable
with strangers than with friends.
865
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,472
Then suddenly Mackie's back in town
866
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,069
and she's making you do
the show you're supposed to be doing
867
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,790
and she insists that you and everyone else
do the news, and you like that.
868
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,832
But that does mean you might lose
869
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,151
some of your invisible friends.
That sound about right?
870
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,880
- I don't believe it really said that in the book.
- I extrapolated.
871
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,953
You gonna tell me I'm supposed to love
myself before anyone else can love me?
872
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,671
"Self-love, my liege,
is not so vile a sin as self-neglecting."
873
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,672
I read page eight of Shakespeare, too.
874
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,356
"A woman is like a tea bag. You can't tell how
strong she is until you put her in hot water."
875
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,999
- Who said that?
- Eleanor Roosevelt.
876
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,400
- Does that have anything to do with this?
- No.
877
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,954
Okay.
878
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,357
That's it? I thought I was getting chewed out.
879
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,955
I can't say anything that would make you
feel worse than you do right now.
880
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,111
- I like that you know that.
- You know what a Goldilocks planet is?
881
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,274
It's a planet with the potential to support life
because of its proximity to a star.
882
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,714
- Not too hot, not too cold.
- Right.
883
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,598
Near liquid water,
but not made of liquid water.
884
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,194
Enough oxygen, but not too much nitrogen.
885
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,636
And we use something...
886
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,033
- Transit spectroscopy.
- I think that's what it's called.
887
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,351
To analyze the atmosphere and find planets
888
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,999
that match the different requirements.
889
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,073
1,300 planets were identified,
but only two confirmed.
890
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,873
And of those two,
891
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,429
one turned out to be something.
892
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,034
- Radioactive.
- Yeah.
893
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,589
So right now that leaves one planet
894
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,036
in all of space that's perfect.
895
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,357
You're talking about
what I think you're talking about, right?
896
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,954
- I probably am.
- All right.
897
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,110
Okay.
898
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,998
How'd the date with the Giant go last night?
899
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,231
Not that good.
He ditched me around midnight.
900
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,915
But I did end up dancing
with Savannah Guthrie for a while.
901
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,754
That girl can dance.
Have you seen the sheer length of her legs?
902
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,591
I embarrassed the whole
team this morning and I'm sorry.
903
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,160
It won't happen again.
904
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,670
I love you, Will.
905
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,394
Thanks, sis.
906
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,960
- You look tired.
- I'm not.
907
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,072
- When'd you get in?
- On the first shuttle.
908
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,879
What are we going to do about the screen?
909
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,832
Oh, it has to be on. It's a condition.
910
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,520
I can't frame it out. There's gonna be
a piece of the game in the shot.
911
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,114
We're gonna blur it out.
912
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,112
Why not just move the chair?
913
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,271
I want the hardware for gravitas.
914
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,795
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
915
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,032
- General.
- Let me just see what's going on here.
916
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,040
It's a good game.
917
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,353
- Jerry Dantana?
- Yes, sir.
918
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,591
This is Maggie Jordan.
She's also a producer on the story.
919
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,080
She'll be leaving before we start.
920
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,640
No, she's a producer on the story.
921
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,758
- She understands...
- I was told Jerry Dantana.
922
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,196
Sir...
923
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,512
Charlie Skinner
and MacKenzie McHale told me Jerry Dantana,
924
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,752
and Jerry Dantana is who I had investigated,
925
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,638
not Maggie Jordan.
926
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:27,959
- Um...
- It's all right. I'll wait outside.
927
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,680
Just check your levels once in a while.
928
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,835
Fellas, you all set?
929
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,310
- Yeah.
- Okay, could you wait outside?
930
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,796
Mmm.
931
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,031
You can sit right there, sir.
932
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,720
You understand we're going
to ask about Operation Genoa
933
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,837
- and that it was a classified mission?
- Yes.
934
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,072
Okay, you're all set.
935
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,072
I'm stepping out.
936
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,639
And you're going to
confirm it happened.
937
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,120
It happened.
938
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,316
What was Operation Genoa?
939
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,720
An extraction.
940
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,510
Two Marines were taken by the enemy
and I won't say more than that.
941
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,398
Who carried out the extraction?
942
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,040
MARSOC, Marines Special
Operations Command.
943
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,635
Were any exceptional measures
used in the operation?
944
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,752
Exceptional measures were called for.
945
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,320
Were they used?
946
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,710
General?
947
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,759
- Was sarin gas used during Genoa?
- It is right.
948
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,038
It is moral and necessary to
use any means in that situation,
949
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,510
in the situation they were in, to use the means
950
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,717
at your disposal to rescue captured prisoners.
951
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,713
- Did we use sarin gas?
- If we used sarin, let me put it this way.
952
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,837
- Sir.
- Here's how we would have used sarin.
953
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,360
I'd like to get to the logistics in a moment,
954
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,558
but right now I'm asking you
if we used sarin gas.
955
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,075
If we used sarin...
956
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,753
- General...
- Listen to me.
957
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,232
If we used sarin, here's how we used sarin.
958
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,595
It would have been stockpiled
in a depot in Okinawa.
959
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,433
That's first. It was guarded...
960
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,675
- Two Marines...
961
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,112
...we used sarin gas?
- If we used sarin...
962
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:19,720
- General...
- Listen to me.
963
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,397
If we used sarin, here's how we used sarin.
964
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,797
If we used sarin, here's how we used sarin.
965
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,635
...how we used sarin.
966
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,112
...we used sarin.
967
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,471
It is right. It is moral and...
968
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,553
It is moral and...
969
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,280
Who carried out the extraction?
970
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,558
MARSOC, Marines Special
Operations Command.
971
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,472
Did we use sarin gas?
972
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,313
We used sarin.
973
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,800
And how is that used?
974
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,554
Here's how we used sarin.
975
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,634
It would have been stockpiled...
976
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,189
- I want to see the raw footage.
- Yeah.
977
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,720
Here we go.
978
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,952
Were any exceptional
measures used in the operation?
979
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,918
Exceptional measures
were called for.
980
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,235
Like what?
981
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:29,754
We used sarin.
982
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,230
It is right. It is moral and...
983
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,680
We're not there yet.
984
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,031
- You're joking, right?
- It's compelling film.
985
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,236
Compelling?
986
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,800
When Mac and I showed up
at his house yesterday,
987
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,837
he'd forgotten he'd talked to us on the phone.
988
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,355
He thought we were selling
magazine subscriptions.
989
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,511
He wasn't being asked about...
990
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,592
Did it seem to you like he was shaky during...
991
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,194
I want another witness.
992
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,192
- We have our key witness.
- He wasn't there.
993
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,794
- He knew about it.
- Didn't remember we'd called.
994
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,599
- He didn't remember at first, right?
- Jerry...
995
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,878
We've got evidence of a war crime.
Just sit with that for a second.
996
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,478
We dropped sarin gas on a village.
997
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,037
We have a moral imperative to question
998
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,476
the flagrant disregard
with which the president
999
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,119
and the national security establishment
1000
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,715
treat the Constitution and international laws.
1001
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,234
What does this have to do
with the Constitution?
1002
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,716
We've killed four American citizens
without due process.
1003
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,234
And those are the ones we know about.
1004
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,155
Five times as many drone strikes
as the entire Bush presidency.
1005
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:32,393
Dramatically increased wiretapping,
detentions, prosecuting whistle blowers,
1006
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,870
several of whom
are willing to go on camera for us.
1007
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,957
- What your problem is...
- Careful, Jerry.
1008
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,396
...is that you like him. You like this president.
1009
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,949
You trust him. Go ahead, we trust you.
1010
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,192
Chase Nielsen flew
the Doolittle Raid after Pearl Harbor
1011
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,158
and got water boarded by the Japanese,
1012
00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:49,596
and we executed
the Japanese soldiers who did it!
1013
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,353
What the fuck is going on?
1014
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:52,756
We have it.
1015
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,433
How long before you're comfortable?
1016
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,836
Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum
suspended his campaign for the presidency...
1017
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,310
President Obama told ABC News'
Robin Roberts
1018
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,790
that same-sex couples
should be able to get married.
1019
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,917
Texas Representative Ron Paul said today
1020
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,879
that he will stop actively campaigning
in the Republican primaries.
1021
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,758
And now, thanks to the Lone Star State,
1022
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,116
Governor Romney
can officially drop the word "presumptive."
1023
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,431
Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker
is still the governor...
1024
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,159
Chick-Fil-A's president, Dan Cathy said,
1025
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:23,630
"I think we are inviting
God's judgment on our nation."
1026
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:25,791
The White House is exercising
executive privilege
1027
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,440
over documents requested by
the House Oversight Committee
1028
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,318
in its investigation of "Fast and Furious."
1029
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,596
Chief Justice John Roberts...
...wrote the majority opinion
1030
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,353
in the historic 5-4 decision.
1031
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,194
The constitutionality of the Affordable Care
Act has been challenged...
1032
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,795
With eight weeks left until the Republican
National Convention in Tampa,
1033
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,475
speculation has turned to Governor Romney's
choice of running mate.
1034
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,552
...introduced Representative Paul Ryan,
1035
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,519
one of the Republican party's young
conservative leaders as his running mate.
1036
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,399
Representative Todd Akin,
who won Missouri's GOP Senate primary
1037
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,791
earlier this month, and who will face
Democratic incumbent Claire McCaskill,
1038
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,349
said Sunday that he misspoke
when he claimed "legitimate rape"...
1039
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,512
With three days to go before delegates
converge on Tampa Bay, Florida,
1040
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,910
GOP officials are moving
forward with their plans
1041
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,720
to kick off the Republican
National Convention on Monday,
1042
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,480
despite the looming threat
of Tropical Storm Isaac.
1043
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,270
The storm is currently headed for Haiti.
1044
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,831
I'm gonna ask you to hold on
just a second, please.
1045
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,120
Lance Corporal Herman Valenzuela
is on the phone.
1046
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,393
Valenzuela is dead.
1047
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,236
No, he's not. He's on the phone.
1048
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,718
How'd you get that wrong?
1049
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,794
There were two Herman Valenzuelas.
Both lance corporals.
1050
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,439
One was killed in action.
1051
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,557
Why were you calling him
if you thought he was dead?
1052
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,280
The messages were left
for him before we got the service records.
1053
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,750
We stopped calling, but he'd been deployed.
1054
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,400
And when he got home,
he got our messages and returned our call.
1055
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,153
And that's when you gave the green light?
1056
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,038
We had Sweeney, we had Hamni8...
1057
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,879
- Charlie.
- ...we had the report from the NGO,
1058
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,673
- we had my source...
- Who you won't reveal.
1059
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,035
...we had the helo manifest,
1060
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,351
we had Valenzuela who was the crew chief.
1061
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,560
We had a story that the US used sarin gas
on a village in Pakistan and we went.
1062
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,710
Anybody would have.
1063
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,110
Most people would have gone months earlier.
1064
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,991
To not go would have been to participate
in the biggest cover-up since...
1065
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,597
These were war crimes.
1066
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,879
It was a Sunday special report.
9:00 p.m. Eastern.
1067
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,714
Nielsen tracking showed
it was gonna be a monster audience,
1068
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,553
three and a half, four million.
1069
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,836
It ended up closer to six.
1070
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,315
By 10:05, I knew we had a problem.
1071
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,432
None of it was true.