1 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,799 Tess Westin, AP. 2 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:08,916 Yes. 3 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,640 Gary Cooper. 4 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,160 Can that really be his name? 5 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,553 Yes. Desk producer. 6 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,313 Tamara Hart, AP. 7 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,710 I'm on fire. 8 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,800 New neighbors. 9 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,196 Okay. 10 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,513 - Morning. - Big day. 11 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:49,920 Can I talk to you a second? 12 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,753 - We've got a rundown meeting. - Yeah. 13 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,839 - They're very young out there. - I know. 14 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,000 But what they lack in experience, they make up for in inexperience. 15 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,116 - Mac... - It's an asset. 16 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,674 They don't know how to do the news badly yet. 17 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:02,796 Or really at all. 18 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,599 Some of them will be doing things they haven't done before, 19 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,115 but they'll be supervised. I want to grow these people, 20 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,350 so you're going to go easy on them. 21 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,830 We talked about this last night, and for three hours the night before 22 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,758 and again at 4:00 a.m. this morning. 23 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,360 And you're sure you don't wanna lead with the spill? 24 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,194 - I am. Is that what you wanted to talk about? - No. 25 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,273 I think most people here know that you and I were together a while ago. 26 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,999 - I think so, too. - I don't want anyone to know 27 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,355 - why we're not together now. - Sure. 28 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,193 - I mean no one. - You think I'm gonna talk about it? 29 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,919 I find it hard to predict what you will and won't do. 30 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,992 - I won't be telling anyone. - As long as we're straight. 31 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,833 - We are. - No one. Nothing. 32 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:33,639 Just to be clear, you want me 33 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,076 - to tell some people, but not everyone. - Let's go. 34 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,119 You're going to have nine minutes with Jan Brewer, nine minutes with La Raza. 35 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,437 I wanna go on record saying we should open with the spill. 36 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,159 - Done. - We'll open with the spill? 37 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,038 No, but you're on record saying you think we should. 38 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,514 The spill is all anyone's talking about. 39 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,034 Because we're the ones telling them to. 40 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,430 We're still reporting on it, just not at the top. 41 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,513 I'm looking at film of an oil rig sinking into the ocean. 42 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,590 That's pretty good television. 43 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,593 We don't do good television, we do the news. 44 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:00,756 - Good morning. - Good morning. 45 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,834 And welcome to the first pitch meeting of News Night 2.0. 46 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,280 The chaos of the spill is settling down, and we get to do our first real show. 47 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,919 11:00, I hear the pitches, 48 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,992 4:00, the show starts to look like the show, 49 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,434 and 6:00, we lock it in. 50 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,880 I learned everyone's names last night. 51 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,713 A huge step in the right direction. 52 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,919 We'll be opening tonight with SB 1070, the Arizona immigration bill, 53 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,794 which Will supports, by the way. 54 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,554 You all thought he was a closet liberal when, really, he's a closet moron. 55 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,280 I'm not a closet anything. Seriously, I know everyone's name. 56 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,273 I was up half the night learning to pronounce Calanasia Zbrezniak. 57 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,670 Cally doesn't work here anymore. 58 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,950 - Dianastasia Jorma? - Nope. 59 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,111 Mohammed al Mohammed el Mohammed bin Bazir? 60 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,236 Went to Fox. 61 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,277 Fox hired someone with three Mohammeds in their name? 62 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,113 But let's give him a hand for effort. 63 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,032 Shut up! 64 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,318 - Is your name really Gary Cooper? - Yeah. 65 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,199 What is News Night 2.0? 66 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,959 - This is... - Mac, the... 67 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,554 Right, thank you. 68 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,790 Before we get to 2.0, 69 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,237 I'm supposed to read something from IT, and I don't want to forget. 70 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,399 "New aliases have been set up for in-house e-mails. 71 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,393 "Autocomplete has been enabled on your Outlook." 72 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,390 Anybody know what that meant? 73 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,550 Right. 74 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,437 "Asterisk-interns" or "asterisk-staff," an asterisk makes it go to a group. 75 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,034 No asterisk makes it go to an individual. 76 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,992 Your name is Neelamani Sampat. 77 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,355 - Nailed it. - Neal's fine. 78 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,715 Can you say it one more time? 79 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:24,399 Just type an e-mail to someone. 80 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,270 Okay, I'm sending an e-mail to Will. 81 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,199 I'm typing it. 82 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,797 - I'm still typing it. - What are you doing now? 83 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,075 Still typing. 84 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,080 And I'm sending it. 85 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,599 It's all right. You made two mistakes. 86 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:46,035 You used an asterisk, 87 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,840 and instead of typing "W" for "Will," you typed "S" for "staff." 88 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,320 They're close together on the keyboard. 89 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,357 "Will McAvoy's a closet bigot who hates immigrants, 90 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,238 "even though this country was founded by immigrants." 91 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,800 - Everybody get the same thing? - Yep. 92 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,270 No one in this newsroom's job 93 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,158 is being threatened by an undocumented worker. 94 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:02,352 Here we go. This is News Night 2.0. 95 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,874 Sorry! 96 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,718 - Excuse me, Charlie? - Yeah. 97 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,029 You wanted to see me? 98 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,520 A 12-year-old kid in Topeka 99 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,030 is trying to convince me he's got a pair of jacks in the hole. 100 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,191 - Shouldn't he be in school? - He is in school. 101 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:18,634 - How can I help you? - Hang on. 102 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,630 He really did have jacks in the hole. 103 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,077 Is there a way I can tell his parents? 104 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,958 - I'm a little busy. - Sure. 105 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,316 You know how you have a secret meeting with Will every day to talk about numbers? 106 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,560 - I... We don't have a secret meeting. - Yeah, you do. 107 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,836 You meet with him in private and you tell him exactly... 108 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,990 I do it at his request. 109 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,594 - It's very instructive. - It is. 110 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,750 - It's invaluable. - Yeah. 111 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:42,115 I want you to stop. 112 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,157 Don't break down the numbers for him for a little while. 113 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,869 Can I ask why? 114 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,317 We're trying something new, and I don't want him getting cold feet. 115 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,880 - He listens to you. - He should. 116 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,280 But what do you mean you're trying something new? 117 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,477 We're going to try doing the news, and see what happens. 118 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,356 I don't get it. 119 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,796 There are two important conversations, 120 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,713 how do we do the best news possible, 121 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,632 and how do we get the most people to watch? 122 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,838 I don't want one of those conversations to have anything to do with the other... 123 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,752 You don't want ratings to drive content. 124 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:09,160 - Exactly. - Neither do I. 125 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:11,749 - I want content to drive ratings. - That's the hope. 126 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,230 But for the moment, I don't want ratings in Will's head at all. 127 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,313 I'd be able to tell him you spiked close to 75,000 new viewers 128 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,436 since you broke your story. 129 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,273 - That's 10% in four days. - Yeah. 130 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,114 In addition to the haul he brought in after he went crazy at Northwestern. 131 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,429 - He didn't go crazy. - I'd be able to tell him 132 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,352 that 32% of those are in the demo... 133 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,080 - Reese. - And 44% make over 75K, 134 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,595 which means we can charge more for 15 and 30s 135 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,120 and get out of the wheelchair-selling business. 136 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,714 And what does he do with that information? 137 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,632 He stretches out the spill as long as he can. 138 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,269 - That's ratings driving content. - That's just reality. 139 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,636 - Reese. - No, I need to be able to do my job. 140 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,951 Just don't break down the numbers for Will. 141 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,711 We've never gotten along that well, have we? 142 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,032 Reese, don't break down the numbers for Will. 143 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,472 If I hid in a locked vault buried under the AWM building, 144 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,314 Will would find me so I could break down the numbers for him, 145 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,995 because Will McAvoy is the biggest ratings whore in the business. 146 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,833 - I'm not the bad guy. - Nobody's the bad guy. 147 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,191 Though if you call Will a whore again, 148 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,035 I'm going to take out your teeth one punch at a time. 149 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,074 - Anything else? - No, sir. 150 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,752 This is a new show and there are new rules. 151 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,553 One, "Is this information we need in the voting booth?" 152 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,873 Two, "Is this the best possible form of the argument?" 153 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,514 And three, "Is the story in historical context?" 154 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,031 You can use a mnemonic device. 155 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,830 I, I, I, the three "I's." 156 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,793 - That's not really helpful. - I was gonna say. 157 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:40,916 We're not opening with BP? 158 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,759 It'll go down in the D block. There's nothing new. 159 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,554 How about today's day four of the president not saying anything about it? 160 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,031 Would you get off the man's back? Jesus Christ, I'm surprised you found room. 161 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,349 Gary, Kendra. 162 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,080 Gary is the smart black guy who's not afraid to criticize Obama. 163 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,995 Kendra got double 800s on her SATs, makes Gary crazy. I studied. 164 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,311 BP's going in the D block. Jim. 165 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,872 SB 1070 passed the Arizona House last week, and a few days later, passed the State Senate. 166 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,189 Its official name is 167 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,637 the "Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act." 168 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,270 It requires immigrants carry their alien registration documents at all times, 169 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,716 requires police question people if there's reason to suspect 170 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,473 they're in the United States illegally, 171 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:18,552 and it targets those who hire illegal immigrants. 172 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,915 The governor signs the bill today. 173 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,390 Is it worth mentioning this is the same state that offered a bill 174 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,359 requiring presidential candidates to show their birth certificates 175 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:26,556 in order to get on the ballot? 176 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,393 In a courtroom, that would be called "prejudicial." 177 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,675 It would be called prejudicial anywhere. 178 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,194 Nope, not that kind of prejudicial. 179 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,352 We've got the governor for nine minutes. 180 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,909 - Just us. She's only talking to Will. - How'd you swing that? 181 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,832 By telling her about News Night 2.0. 182 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,036 You showed her the easel? 183 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,158 I convinced her she's not going to have to outshout a crazy person. 184 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,314 That studio is a courtroom, 185 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,518 and we only call expert witnesses. 186 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,950 Will is the attorney for both sides. 187 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,158 He examines the witness and reveals facts. 188 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:00,234 You will be amazed at the guests we'll book using that unbelievably obvious template. 189 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:01,750 You don't have to raise your hand. 190 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,309 I saw one of those crazy militia guys on Jon Stewart last night. 191 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,436 We could also have him on. 192 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,113 Did you hear me when I was speaking just then 193 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,759 or were you distracted by a bumblebee? 194 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,636 What does the "I" stand for? 195 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,155 The second "I." 196 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,954 "Is this the best possible form of the argument?" 197 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,838 Not the most colorful version, 198 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,798 not the most outrageous version, 199 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,156 but the best possible version. 200 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,630 - How do you define "best"? - I define it by the source. 201 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,475 I define it by the number of relevant facts it contains, 202 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:35,554 and I define it by an X factor that I trust Will and myself to determine, 203 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,757 using our combined five decades in the field. 204 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,712 What's the best possible version of the "birther" argument? 205 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,156 There isn't one. And that's the fourth. Ah! 206 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,880 This one's an "A." 207 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,191 Are there really two sides to this story? 208 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,398 So it's I-I-I-A. 209 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,358 What does that mean, "Are there really..." 210 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,956 The media is biased towards success, and the media is biased towards fairness. 211 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,480 How can you be biased toward fairness? 212 00:10:56,560 --> 00:10:58,358 There aren't two sides to every story. 213 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,035 Some stories have five sides, some only have one. 214 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,077 - You don't have to raise your hand. - I still don't under... 215 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,150 Biased toward fairness means 216 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,072 that if the entire Congressional Republican Caucus 217 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,038 were to walk into the House and propose a resolution 218 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,510 stating that the Earth was flat, the Times would lead with, 219 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,796 "Democrats and Republicans Can't Agree on Shape of Earth." 220 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,075 Uh... 221 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,514 Mac? 222 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,592 - Would you let them raise their hands? - Fine. 223 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,672 - Back to immigration. - Neelamani Sampat. 224 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,831 - It means blue jewel. - I didn't know that. 225 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,513 I did. I took the time. I care. 226 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,556 Are you asking him out? 227 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,552 If he wants me to. I'm nice. 228 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,439 - And what are you still doing here? - I was asked to help. 229 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,876 Don generously volunteered to help during the transition. 230 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,992 - He was asked or he volunteered? - I'm happy to go. 231 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,350 - Apologize. - I'm sorry. 232 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,590 - To Don. - I'm over it. 233 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,160 - Neal. - There is an alternative weekly in Spokane 234 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,597 called the Pacific Northwest Insider 235 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,514 that published an article about immigration a couple of weeks ago. 236 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,871 The story featured a guy named Hector Nunez 237 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,077 who revealed that when he was 16, 238 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,117 his parents told him that he was living here illegally. 239 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,475 The paper used his real name? 240 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,554 Yeah, and the state of Washington rescinded his driver's license after the piece came out. 241 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,711 He needs his car to get to his job with a small moving company 242 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,031 and to take his kids to school in the morning. 243 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,318 - I thought we could have him on. - I've got to budget 42 minutes. 244 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,870 I've already spent 18 on Jan Brewer and La Raza. 245 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,792 I thought we could put a human face on immigration. 246 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,111 How about putting a human face on the guy whose job he took? 247 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,470 We don't have the time. 248 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,276 We've got 1070, BP and a senate candidate 249 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,272 who says poor people can pay doctors with chickens. 250 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,750 But even if we did have the time, it would be emotionally manipulative. 251 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,160 - How? - We'd be putting him there 252 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,469 so that we can feel sorry for him. 253 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,233 We should feel sorry for him. He's getting screwed. 254 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,874 You should feel sorry for the guy whose job he took. 255 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,792 I don't want to feel sorry for anybody. 256 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,237 I want the facts, and neither of them can provide facts. 257 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,118 - Somebody's gonna book this kid. - Nobody's gonna book him. 258 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,840 Nobody's gonna have heard of him. It's an alternative weekly in Spokane. 259 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:38,950 And do you see, 260 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,430 "What's our competition doing," on the easel? 261 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,352 - No, but I wish I did. - Moving on. 262 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,114 The Dow has ticked down 108 points 263 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,271 on a surprisingly weak durable-goods orders report 264 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,192 from the Commerce Department that has raised worries... 265 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,352 Listen, I'm not gonna take it from him in public or private. 266 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,272 - I'm doing you guys a favor. - I'm sorry. 267 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,874 I understand and he knows that. 268 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,633 You're cutting PopWatch and Today on YouTube? 269 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,030 I am and I know they're both yours, but... 270 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,236 I don't care that they're mine. 271 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,277 I care that they're the most popular segments on the show. 272 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,430 Look at the minute to minutes. 273 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,239 Feel free to use them when you and Elliot start at 10:00. 274 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,835 Yeah, there's gonna be nobody left at 10:00 if you lead off the night with 275 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,354 the "Will McAvoy Makes You Eat Your Vegetables Hour." 276 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:16,470 Hmm? 277 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,275 Forget it. 278 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:21,670 - Maggie. - Yeah. 279 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,831 Mac wants me to supervise your pre-interview with Brewer's office. 280 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:24,956 - I was told. - All right, 281 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,952 you're gonna be talking to a spokesperson. 282 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,315 I'll call him now. 283 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,392 I thought maybe we could do a practice run first. 284 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,160 Okay, I'd like to say, with all respect, 285 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,311 that I don't feel I need to be supervised. 286 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,153 - Okay. - You'll let me do it by myself? 287 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,792 No, I just meant, okay, I heard you say that. 288 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,151 I've been here a year. You've been here three days. 289 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,276 Mac's working with a group 290 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,079 of relatively inexperienced people she doesn't know. 291 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,230 - I know that. - All right. 292 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,073 - So you'll let me do it myself? - No. 293 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,716 - Then I'm doing this under protest. - I'm sorry? 294 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,679 I'm just... I'll be... I'm doing this under protest. 295 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,319 - What does that look like? - It'll be the same. 296 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,153 I'm just lodging an official protest. 297 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,317 - With who? - My immediate superior, I guess. 298 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,669 That's me. 299 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,240 - Well, are you writing it down? - No. 300 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,794 Are you really considering going to 10:00? 301 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,755 - Don made some compelling arguments. - Yeah? What were they? 302 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,639 That growing something from scratch is something I should experience. 303 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,480 - Okay. - Whoa, whoa, wait. 304 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:13,710 - What did that mean? - Nothing. 305 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,836 - Really? - Yeah. 306 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,400 I know exactly what you're thinking. 307 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,039 I can't say the same. 308 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,474 You don't think I'm making a relationship choice? 309 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,791 - No. - That this is just a temp gig for me 310 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,118 until someone puts a ring on it and I can have kids? 311 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,038 I wasn't saying... I didn't say any of that. 312 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,919 You don't think that I don't have the same commitment to news that you do? 313 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,116 No. 314 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,432 I'll be honest because of the way I phrased those questions, 315 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,552 I wasn't totally clear on what your answers meant. 316 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,553 I think that you have the same commitment to the news that I do. 317 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,638 I think kids are great. I used to be one. 318 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,200 And I can't remember the third thing, but... 319 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,600 - Ring, ring. - Thank you. 320 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,273 - Ring, ring. - Hi, it's Glenn Fisher. 321 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,555 - Glenn Fisher? - Yes. 322 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,552 - That's the spokesperson I'm talking to? - Yes. 323 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,676 I thought it was John Markell. 324 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,433 Fisher's a press agent who's doing the pre-interview. 325 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,475 Okay. 326 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,235 First, you go into iNEWS and you look over the questions 327 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,834 the segment producer put in the rundown. 328 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,078 Identify yourself and your news agency, summarize the segment, 329 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,480 the length, whether it's live or not, 330 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,153 and who we're having on from the other side. 331 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,751 I'm sorry, but don't I first open my eyes and notice it's a new day? 332 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,433 - What are we talking about here? - I've done this before. 333 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,240 - Okay. - What is this magic box in front of me? 334 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,390 Have I done something to you? 335 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,358 I swear I was just thinking the exact same thing. 336 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,033 I have no idea why I'm being mean to you. 337 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,349 Now that you know that, do you think you'll stop? 338 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,358 That's the thing, it doesn't feel like it. 339 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,470 I'm just being honest. 340 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,233 I can't ask for more than that, except rational thought. 341 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:25,840 - What was that? - Nothing. 342 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,559 - Ring, ring. - Hi, it's Glenn Fisher. 343 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,354 Glenn, this is Margaret Jordan. 344 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,079 I'm an associate producer at News Night, 345 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,113 and I'm doing the pre-interview for the governor's appearance this evening. 346 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,079 I know Will's gonna wanna ask why mean people 347 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,470 tend to pour into your state like it's a bathtub drain. 348 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,630 Will's not gonna wanna ask that. 349 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,440 I think they're building the fence on the wrong side of the state. 350 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,034 Margaret, here in Arizona, 351 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,840 the government can barely pay for the needs of native-born poor as it is, 352 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,513 welfare, education, Social Security, 353 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,478 especially when so many households here 354 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,358 are one or two paychecks away from the poverty line. 355 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:54,635 You're scapegoating these people. 356 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,440 Stop. I just said illegals cost money. 357 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,358 - Ask the follow-up. - Okay. 358 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,036 Ask it. 359 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,391 My follow-up, Mr. Fisher, is this. 360 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,469 I understand that having undocumented workers 361 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,755 living in the US costs money, 362 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,797 and it's a problem we have to do something about, 363 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,158 but shouldn't it be a point of pride for Americans 364 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,312 that others are willing to uproot their families just to come here? 365 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,398 The follow-up was, "How much do they cost?" 366 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,120 But, yes, it is a point of pride that people wanna come to America, 367 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,157 and we value our diverse population in Arizona, 368 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,675 but we just want people to immigrate legally and become citizens. 369 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,514 And I'm sure that's what's behind the emotion and the vitriol. 370 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,876 Americans hate it when people don't fill out the proper paperwork. 371 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,030 You can't antagonize the... 372 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,680 I'm gonna ask the right questions, you dweeb. 373 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,672 - And you'll follow up? - I'll follow up. 374 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,798 My point is that whatever side of this you're on, 375 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,155 the rhetoric we use to talk about these people 376 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,755 who risk their lives to have a shot at picking oranges 377 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,911 so their kids have a shot at not being dead 378 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,789 makes it sound like we're talking about scraping gum off our shoes. 379 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,914 These people chose to take a huge risk to become Americans, 380 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,435 and they deserve a better descriptor than "illegals." 381 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,594 You don't need me. You got this one. 382 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,556 Thank you. 383 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,360 Another story making headlines this morning is, of course, Greece, 384 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,716 whose prime minister officially requested activation 385 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,792 of the EU/IMF bailout package, 386 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,712 lifting the euro from its lowest level of the year 387 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,553 and sending commodity prices soaring. 388 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,472 We'll have that and the rest of the day's financial news 389 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,119 on Market Wrap-Up at 4:00. 390 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,395 I'm Sloan Sabbith. 391 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,040 Let's go out to Diane and Billy on the west coast 392 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:31,634 for Atlantis Hollywood. 393 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,116 And we're clear. 394 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,395 - Hello. - Sloan, I'm MacKenzie McHale. 395 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,472 - I know. It's good to meet you. - It's nice to meet you. 396 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,756 - Do you have a minute? - Sure. Thanks. 397 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,959 You know, I was watching you earlier 398 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,351 when you were talking about two companies, Capital One and... 399 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:51,556 - Baxter. - Baxter. 400 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,394 And the prompter said, "Both of whom are hinting at good numbers," 401 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,915 and you said, "Both of which are hinting at good numbers." 402 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,070 Was that an accident? 403 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,560 No. I didn't write that copy. 404 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,115 I changed it to "which" because "whom" is for people. 405 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,157 - Is someone in trouble? - No. 406 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,073 Do you mind coming into my office for a second? 407 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,196 Sure. 408 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,272 What's the difference between a corporation and a person? 409 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,753 Have you ever held a door open for someone? 410 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,320 - Yes. - Did you ask them for money first? 411 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,073 - No. - That's the difference. 412 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,276 That's the right answer. 413 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:18,591 - Am I taking a test? - I've asked around and people say 414 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,273 you don't belong here, that you could be making 415 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:22,431 a lot more money as an analyst at Goldman. 416 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,830 Couldn't you be making a lot more money producing reality television? 417 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,550 I do produce reality television. 418 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,916 I don't know what to tell you. I like my job. 419 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,679 Do you feel like working longer hours? 420 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,269 They talked to me about doing a morning show 421 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:36,635 a couple of times, but I can't do that. 422 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,071 I'm not interested in cooking. I make sandwiches. 423 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,155 I get that I don't necessarily look like it, but I'm an economist. 424 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,596 - Thanks, though. - Yeah, I meant in prime time. 425 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,512 I want to give you five minutes every night 426 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,195 to talk about where we are and how we got here. 427 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,430 Are you serious? 428 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,754 There are people more qualified than I am. 429 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,480 I can put you in touch with some of the professors that I studied under... 430 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,995 Yeah, the thing is they're not going to have your legs. 431 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,356 I'm sorry, but if I'm going to get people to listen to an economics lesson, 432 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,399 I've got to find someone who doesn't look like George Bernard Shaw. 433 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,518 I would not ask you if I didn't think you were qualified. 434 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,596 You want me to do pole dancing while explaining subprime mortgages? 435 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:16,830 If you're up to it, sure. 436 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,635 All right, I get it. 437 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,558 We'll start a conversation with Will about our goals 438 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,114 - and how we're going to get there. - Great. 439 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,793 I think you and I are going to be good friends. 440 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,950 - I'd like that. - Me, too. 441 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,032 - Okay. - I mean it. I don't have any friends. 442 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,750 Oh. 443 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,997 You know, you're new in town, so... 444 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,799 Yeah, yeah. 445 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,354 You know, you and I have something in common. 446 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:38,476 What's that? 447 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,320 I had a boyfriend who cheated on me, too. 448 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,869 - Ah. - The week of our wedding. 449 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,872 Oh. Oh. 450 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:46,990 I don't understand. 451 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,356 I know about Will. 452 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,598 Yeah, yeah. 453 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,509 I still don't understand. 454 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,357 Wait, Will didn't cheat on me. 455 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:00,760 - I used to deny it, too. - Will didn't cheat on me. 456 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,513 - Oh, okay, sorry. - I can't talk about what happened, 457 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,114 but I can tell you that Will didn't cheat on me. 458 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,351 - I shouldn't have mentioned anything. - Sloan, listen to me. 459 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,630 Will didn't cheat on me. 460 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,917 Yes, we were together for two years and we broke up. 461 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,720 I can't tell you any more than that, but he never, ever, never cheated on me. 462 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,519 - Who told you that? - Everybody. 463 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,393 That's what people... No, no, no. 464 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,709 That's not what happened. 465 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,315 - You don't have to tell me what happened. - I can't tell you what happened. 466 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,437 He doesn't want anyone in the office to know. He made me promise. 467 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:24,474 No, not because... 468 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,640 I can't talk. Ugh! 469 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,757 Even though in this situation, I think he'd prefer... 470 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,480 No, he really doesn't want the office to know anything. 471 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,950 - He didn't cheat on me. - I should get back to work. 472 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,918 You need to tell people that. 473 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,070 You're enabling an ass. 474 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,719 He's... Whoa. 475 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,913 He's not an ass. 476 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,675 Come here. 477 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,676 Will's not an ass. He's the opposite of an ass. 478 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,752 Even if he did cheat on me, which he absolutely didn't, 479 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,115 he's definitely not an ass. 480 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,953 - Do people think that? - You had to have known that. 481 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,032 I thought they thought he was gruff, but lovable. 482 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:56,600 No, they think he's an ass who cheated on you. 483 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,909 That has to be corrected. 484 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,992 - I have to start the 4:00. - Okay, okay, okay. 485 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,715 You need to do this. 486 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,639 You need to go from person to person 487 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,360 and tell them that Will is an extraordinary man 488 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,159 with a heart the size of a Range Rover, 489 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,517 that there's a long story that has to do... 490 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,239 A lot to do with me, but also other things. 491 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,438 I can't tell you the story of his life, but he's the good guy. 492 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,279 - Will you tell people that? - Every chance I get. 493 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:21,033 - You're not going to, right? - No, I'm not. 494 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,355 Okay. 495 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,999 We spiked up 9% overall. 496 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,231 On top of the 7% that came after Northwestern. 497 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,515 You played high school football. 498 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,199 What do you do when you have a lead late in the game? 499 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,760 My high school never had to worry about that. 500 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,274 - You protect the lead. - Will McAvoy! 501 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,955 How do you get used to eating lunch at 4:00 in the afternoon? 502 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,509 I work from 11:00 to 9:00. It's across all demos, too. 503 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,479 Will McAvoy's the place to be for all things BP. 504 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,553 Hey, I need you to tell me right now you're not using that as a promo slug. 505 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,394 We're not, but Brad ground-researched the hell out of this since Northwestern, 506 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,314 and the feedback we keep getting, especially from 18 to 49s, 507 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,629 is just studded with green flags. 508 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,120 And this isn't Brad selective-coding, man. 509 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,159 We're talking about an actual, bona fide, audience-driven response to Northwestern 510 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,560 and the way you handled the breaking news. 511 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,438 I don't see them capping the well anytime soon. 512 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,318 - But you're not leading with it. - Not tonight. 513 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,880 It'll be down in the D block. 514 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,030 It sunk this morning. 515 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:08,114 We got film of a massive offshore drilling rig sinking into the Gulf of Mexico. 516 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,230 We knew that was gonna happen. 517 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,471 People knew the Titanic was gonna sink when they went to the movie, 518 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,354 but it was cool to watch, which is why they went to the movie. 519 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,150 Partner, something's going on here and you gotta tell me what it is. 520 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,550 Look, we're trying to format a new broadcast 521 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,518 that puts a priority on information voters need, 522 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,956 puts the information in context, and then tries to present 523 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,032 the best possible versions of competing arguments. 524 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,436 Here's what I just heard, "We got a hit show that just got bigger, 525 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,000 "so now we're trying to fix it." 526 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,514 Listen, there's no one here but me and you. 527 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,512 Is this something you want or something you got talked into? 528 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,193 It's... No, it's something I want badly. 529 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,000 - I've wanted this since the dawn of time. - More than numbers? 530 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,595 Weren't you the one that told me that your audience are your only friends? 531 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,990 I said that after a couple of shots of some kind of varnish remover 532 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,514 at a particularly low point in my life. 533 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,034 - That was two weeks ago. - It was a very low point. 534 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:48,554 - I think it was lower than three weeks ago. - Will. 535 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,439 MacKenzie thinks I don't have to sacrifice one for the other. 536 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,716 Well, MacKenzie is the expert on predicting audience trends. 537 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,950 No, wait. She's not, Brad is. 538 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,833 - We're not setting out to lose viewers. - No one ever does. 539 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,593 Just better news for the ones we've got. 540 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,875 All right, I'll stop. 541 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,477 Listen, I still want your advice every day. 542 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,756 My advice today, go to the conservative websites. 543 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,990 - I do. - You'll see that they like you. 544 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,070 They think you're a RINO, but they like 545 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,879 that you don't take cheap shots at Sarah Palin. 546 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,713 - Look at the comments section. - Yeah, I know. 547 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,360 Palin made a statement about the spill last night. 548 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,635 - It was ridiculous. - Yes, it was. 549 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,074 It'll be a joke on every late-night show. 550 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,560 She basically wrote Letterman's monologue. 551 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,790 - So you want my advice? - Yes. 552 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,519 Be the guy that doesn't take a shot at her tonight. 553 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,034 Well, I won't be taking a shot at her, 554 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:23,395 but that's because I won't be using her. 555 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,073 I'm saying you should use her, but not to take a shot... 556 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,389 No, she's a private citizen. 557 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,312 She doesn't have any qualifications in this area, 558 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,039 so it's hard with the new format to justify... 559 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:31,873 Let me tell you what it looks like when the audience leaves. 560 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,076 I can't jam in a Palin SOT 561 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,755 just to give myself the opportunity to not take a shot at her. 562 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,797 If I cross that line, I'm just saying, "Fuck the whole thing." 563 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,917 It looks like this, first you lose the people who just got here. 564 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,117 Then everyone writes that you lost the people that just got here. 565 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,078 That makes people think they're not at the cool party anymore. 566 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,152 You ever been at Sardi's on opening night of a Broadway show 567 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,596 five minutes after word gets out the Times panned it? 568 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,796 They leave. 569 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,955 And they never come back, ever. 570 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,839 And it happens in not much more time than it just took me to describe it. 571 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,471 It's conservatives who watch the news on TV. 572 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,120 Don't pass up an opportunity to remind them why they don't hate you. 573 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,759 I really want to give the new format a... 574 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,354 Also, would you do me a favor and tell Charlie Skinner 575 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,669 that you're the one who asked for these meetings? 576 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,114 And do you want me to fix you up with someone 577 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,192 who'll take your mind off a girl from three years ago? 578 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,794 - No, thank you. - Palin. 579 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,916 - She's married. - Not to fix you up with. 580 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,356 - I'm saying use the Palin SOT. - I know. It's not gonna happen. 581 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,636 - MacKenzie would cook me and eat me. - You're the boss. 582 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,877 I'll keep reminding you of that because I'm not wild about your ex. 583 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,919 Hey, look, her name is MacKenzie or Ms. McHale, 584 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,676 and she's reported more real news in one day than I have in my career. 585 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,870 Fuck. 586 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,072 - Hi. - Hello. 587 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,793 Jan Brewer just bailed on us for tonight. 588 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,071 - What are you talking about? - They canceled. 589 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,073 - She's going on CNN. - Who's she sending instead? 590 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,834 Maggie, no one from the governor's office is coming on the show. 591 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,149 What happened with the call? 592 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,276 - Oh, God. - What happened? 593 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,511 - This can't be because of the call. - It happened on the call. 594 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,637 I swear, I kept my personal feelings to myself. 595 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,519 I was on the phone with Glenn Fisher, 596 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,269 and it was really just by the book. 597 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:13,999 Okay, so the pre-interview was going fine. 598 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,355 - Yeah. - When all of a sudden... 599 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,238 Things happen, Jim, okay, 600 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,471 that are beyond your super-newsman powers of understanding. 601 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,519 I wish you had told me that you dated Glenn Fisher in college. 602 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,000 How could you possibly know that? 603 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,560 He told me, which is what you should have done. 604 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,120 I know, but I thought you'd take it away from me. 605 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,600 - I would have. - And that's why I didn't tell you. 606 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,319 You have to tell me. If you've had a relationship... 607 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,436 It wasn't a relationship. 608 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,670 - We went out four times. - Maggie. 609 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,757 And now he's the press aide to the governor of a state 610 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,718 that gave us Barry Goldwater and a football team 611 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,314 that couldn't find the end zone with an OnStar system. 612 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,073 - You're a football fan? - No, I looked it up. 613 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,355 Also, the fourth date didn't count. 614 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,557 Is the fourth date relevant to the pre-interview? 615 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,518 - It might be. - What happened on the fourth date? 616 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,193 We went back to his dorm room, 617 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,112 - we started making out a little. - Uh-huh. 618 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,873 And then there was a crazy banging on the door. 619 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,917 It was his ex-girlfriend and she was shouting, 620 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,719 "I know you've got some slut in there!" 621 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,950 - I think she meant me. - Yeah. 622 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,872 And Glenn said, "Get under the bed." 623 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,792 - Not the closet? - No room in the closet. It's a dorm. 624 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,550 So I got under the bed and he let his ex-girlfriend in, 625 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,518 and the two of them patched things up. 626 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,875 - With you under the bed. - Yeah. 627 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,150 When you say they patched things up... 628 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,072 - Yeah. - You're saying... 629 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,913 Oh, my God. They did it, Jim! Okay? 630 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,120 They settled their differences. 631 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,393 And it didn't take very long, because as it turns out, 632 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,880 - Glenn doesn't take very long. - Compared to who? 633 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,680 Compared toother people 634 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,752 and what I've read about in the movies. 635 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:23,830 - It doesn't matter. - Five minutes? 636 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,115 I didn't have a stopwatch on him, 637 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,920 but I know it was under two minutes because I was holding my breath. 638 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,151 - Is this important? - I don't know what's important yet. 639 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,959 That's why I'm listening to this story. 640 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,910 They finished, they left. 641 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,434 I waited a minute, and then I left. 642 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,590 Fast forward to the call. 643 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,273 He says, "The governor would also like to talk 644 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:42,955 "about Arizona doing well on Obama's Race to the Finish initiative." 645 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,270 And you say to Glenn... 646 00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:45,350 "How appropriate for you." 647 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,116 - Good one. - Thank you. 648 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,953 You said you didn't inject any of your personal opinions... 649 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,271 About the bill. I didn't inject any personal opinions about the bill. 650 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,717 Okay, first of all, the initiative is called Race to the Top, not Race to the Finish. 651 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,753 I know. That's why I was so sure God was on my side, 652 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,160 because he teed me up so perfectly. 653 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,630 - And second, why didn't he... - Why didn't he get her out of the room? 654 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,436 It was 2:00 in the morning. What was he gonna say? 655 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,358 "Why don't we go somewhere private and talk?" 656 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,954 They were in his dorm room. He was stuck. 657 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,838 - There were no options. - You had an option. 658 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,513 You could have not hidden under the bed. 659 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,160 I made a quick decision. It may have been the wrong one... 660 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,312 - "It may have been..." - But once I made it, I had to commit to it. 661 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,959 And I will tell you something else. 662 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,794 He waited this long to tell us he was bailing on purpose 663 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,678 so we'd get slammed on getting a replacement. 664 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,831 - Do you think? - Are you being sarcastic? 665 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,230 Because, yes, I'm pretty sure he did this on purpose. 666 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,316 We've got less than 90 minutes to find someone to defend SB 1070 667 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,993 and get them to a studio. 668 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,549 But after the show, a bunch of us are going over to the Emerald City 669 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,960 to see the Wizard and maybe he can give you some... 670 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,030 My brain is fine. 671 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:41,600 You give me the SATs right now and I'll take them. 672 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,552 Maybe he'll give you some courage is what I was going to say. 673 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,115 Please! 674 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,954 Tell me what to do. 675 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:53,636 Grab some bookers, whoever's free, and come into the conference room. 676 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,473 - This is an emergency now. - We'll be right there. 677 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,596 - Maggie. - Yeah. 678 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,751 I don't know anyone in the world 679 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,672 who would have hidden under the bed. 680 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,670 Martin, Tamara, Kendra, I need some help. 681 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,992 - What do you need? - No, I can... It's no big deal. 682 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,799 I just need... 683 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,559 Kendra, Tamara, Martin! 684 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:17,998 - Everything all right? - I can fix it. 685 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,189 Okay. 686 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,158 What? 687 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,516 - What the hell is going on? - We lost Jan Brewer. 688 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,159 What? God! 689 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,790 Get someone else from Brewer's office. 690 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,917 - No, we've lost the whole office. - What? 691 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,395 No one from Brewer's office is gonna be coming. 692 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,516 What the hell happened? 693 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,956 - This is my fault. - Look, I got into a stupid argument 694 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,269 with a press aide on the phone, 695 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,557 and now he's giving the governor's office to everybody but us 696 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,155 - so he can stick it to me. - Are you freaking kidding me? 697 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,880 - No, wait. Mac... - No. That is what happened. 698 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,913 Day side's been running Jan Brewer promos for the last six hours. 699 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,559 Who's replacing her? 700 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,359 Well, we're obviously late to the buffet, 701 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,274 so we basically had to book people who were close to a satellite dish. 702 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,999 - Oh, boy. - Dr. Dwayne Sotter. 703 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,197 He's an adjunct professor at the University of Phoenix. 704 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,717 The University of Phoenix is an online university. It's not in Arizona. 705 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,718 - But you can understand our mistake, right? - No. 706 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,393 He's written several books on immigration policy. 707 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,791 - Have I heard of any of them? - They were self-published. 708 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,477 This Land is My Land, Ambushed 709 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,076 and Don't Make Me Press One for English in My Own Country. 710 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,799 - That is quite a sacrifice. - Tamara. 711 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,234 We've got a former Miss Oklahoma 712 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,596 who was second runner-up in the Miss USA pageant this year. 713 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,000 She claims she was denied first runner-up 714 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,117 because of an answer she gave regarding illegal immigration. 715 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,759 - Ah, the real victim. - Martin. 716 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,240 Right, the third is Ross Fernholm, 717 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,118 - a former state patrolman who was part... - Don't say it. 718 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,919 ...of a border control group called the "Citizens Militia." 719 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,676 Is this or isn't this the exact opposite of who I asked you to book? 720 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,353 God damn it, Jim! What the hell were you... 721 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,669 - This is all... - All gonna be fine. 722 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,910 Jim is taking the fall... 723 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,515 For exactly what I'm supposed to take the fall for. 724 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,920 I don't know what the hell dance you two are doing. 725 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,078 Don't book these guys. Scrap the segment. 726 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,197 They'll say we didn't have anyone defending it. 727 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,280 Let's prep them the best we can and have Will carry them, okay? 728 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,674 He'll just carry them. 729 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,713 - I'll go and tell him. - I should be the one to tell him. 730 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,075 - Maggie... - He's gonna fire somebody. 731 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,520 - God knows he should. - He will. 732 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,716 He won't. 733 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,390 He won't. 734 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,560 Guys, he won't. 735 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,434 Hang on. 736 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,240 Dome of silence. I have to... 737 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,359 Are people here under the impression that Will is an ass? 738 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,238 Okay, you're wrong. 739 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,319 You know, you're just wrong and it's an injustice. 740 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,633 He's... He'd throw himself in front of a train for anyone in this... 741 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,477 - Is Will in his office? - He's at that thing uptown. 742 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,631 I'm sending him an e-mail because I... 743 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:52,000 I can't live with this stupid promise I made. 744 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,637 And, you know, completely wrong information. 745 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,440 I'm nipping this thing in the bud right now. 746 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,671 And send. 747 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,674 Will is the best man I've ever... 748 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,959 - What just happened? - I got a staff e-mail from you. 749 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,475 - Me, too. - I sent the e-mail to Sloan, I mean Will. 750 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,557 Ah. Oh, my God, I sent it to Sloan. 751 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,393 I think the "S" in "Sloan" became "staff." 752 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,755 You used the asterisk. 753 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,639 No. 754 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,158 No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no! 755 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,709 Everybody listen! Listen to me right now. 756 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,716 - Oh, man. - Oh! 757 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,396 That was unusual. 758 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,358 I want everyone to delete the e-mail you just received. 759 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,909 Delete it right now without reading it. Honor system. 760 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,391 And then I need someone to sneak into Will's office 761 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,711 and delete the e-mail from his inbox. 762 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,632 If it's password-protected, 763 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,430 I need you to take a baseball bat and smash... 764 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,992 - You told me he was uptown. - I guess he came back. 765 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,075 - We stood in my office... - Will. 766 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,518 ...this morning, and I said under no circumstances 767 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,593 do I want anyone here to know what happened. 768 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,878 And you said, "Yes," and, "Yes," again. 769 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,430 And it really... 770 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,513 It really seemed like you understood. 771 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,636 - And then you sent an e-mail... - It was a complete... 772 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,873 - Explaining in some detail what happened. - Please, please let me... 773 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,954 And then you copied 47 reporters on it. 774 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,156 Can we go into your office? 775 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,550 You know how sometimes something happens in an instant 776 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,678 that's so astonishing you just shut down? 777 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,232 - Of course, that's... - That doesn't fucking happen to me! 778 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,236 - We need some privacy. - Really? 779 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,880 We're going to go into Will's office, 780 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,790 but I want everyone to delete the e-mail. 781 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,997 Mac, I think I just accidentally forwarded it to corporate. 782 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,236 Whoa, whoa. Hey, hey, hey, hey. 783 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,471 - Why is this happening? - I was sending an e-mail to you, 784 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:11,914 but accidentally sent it to Sloan Sabbith, 785 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,033 but I either did or didn't type the asterisk and it went to staff instead of Sloan. 786 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,236 Why were you sending it at all? 787 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,080 Because, and here's where I think I'm on firmer ground, 788 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,116 she thought that you cheated on me 789 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,600 and that you were an ass, 790 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,071 which is not true. I'm changing minds, Will. 791 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,674 I'm changing minds all over the place. 792 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,240 - Get in there! - Sure. 793 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,755 She thought you cheated on me and she told me other people thought so, too. 794 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,590 I couldn't take that, but I do take 100% of the responsibility for what just happened. 795 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,558 Who else would be responsible? 796 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,040 Arizona prison stats. 797 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,873 - Thank you. - No one. I'm sorry. 798 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,599 - Don't mention it. - That's... 799 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,192 I'm really impressed that you're forgiving me so fast. 800 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,351 - I would have... - No, what you heard was, "Don't mention it. 801 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,794 "It's no problem. Don't worry about it." 802 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,792 What I said was, "Don't mention it ever." 803 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,360 - Will... - Ever, Mac! 804 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,193 - Hospital costs and health care. - How current? 805 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,873 - Fiscal 2009. - Thank you. 806 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,280 I understand. 807 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,589 One more thing. 808 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,998 We lost Jan Brewer and had to replace her 809 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,993 with a crazy professor at a website, a member of the Citizens Militia, 810 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,470 and a former second runner-up in the Miss USA pageant. 811 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,916 It's going to be fine. You'll carry them. They'll barely have to speak. 812 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,755 Now you've shut down, right? 813 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,077 - Who fucked up? - Now, you know I'm not going to tell you that. 814 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,389 Okay. 815 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,960 - 98%. - What? 816 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,238 I take 98% of the responsibility, not 100%. 817 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,356 Is that right? 818 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,640 Listen. 819 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,439 You were in love from the day you met me, 820 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,354 and for two years, you were the man of any woman's dreams, you know? 821 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,838 You'd have these ways of doing things. 822 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,634 It doesn't matter. 823 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,638 I didn't know that I was in love with you too, until... 824 00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:58,074 You cheated on me with your ex-boyfriend. 825 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,271 That's right! That's what happened. 826 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,159 I didn't know how I felt about you until I was with him again. 827 00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:05,835 So technically, I wasn't cheating on the man I loved, 828 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,480 I was falling in love with the man I loved. 829 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,835 While cheating on him with your ex-boyfriend. 830 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,360 Yes! 831 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,552 But you're missing that technically it wasn't cheating, though. 832 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,711 The more important thing is that I fell in love with you. 833 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,719 At the end of a romantic comedy, that would make everything okay! 834 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,110 There's something I've always been dying to ask you. 835 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,475 Ask anything. 836 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,478 Why did you tell me? 837 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,959 Because I wouldn't have been able to live with it. 838 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,360 Now I have to live with it. 839 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,310 - Would you rather I'd have been dishonest? - Yes. 840 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,312 Yes, I'd very much rather 841 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,352 you hadn't told me. 842 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:46,833 Still, 98%. 843 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,633 I'm sorry, we have to do the final rundown. 844 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,074 We're coming. 845 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,472 The first runner-up wasn't available? 846 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,474 Sixty seconds to V.T.R. 847 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,473 Are we getting the opening in HD or SD? 848 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,399 Where's it coming to me? Which router? 849 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,114 Roll it in from the room. 850 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,600 Tess. 851 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,038 There's an SOT I want in the D block. 852 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,033 Sarah Palin's comment on the White House not returning calls from the Dutch, 853 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,839 except she calls Holland Norway. 854 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,513 Find it, give it to Jake. 855 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,398 - Don't run it past Mac. - Yes, sir. 856 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,039 Did we go to Afghanistan because you cheated on Will? 857 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,675 - Can I get a little privacy? - Not until you learn how to send an e-mail. 858 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,195 - You got invaluable experience. - I got shot in the ass. 859 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,272 Well, be grateful you weren't facing the other direction. 860 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,119 Thirty seconds out. 861 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:37,120 I've been cheated on. 862 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,792 One time literally right on top of me. 863 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,520 This happened because of me. No one should get fired. 864 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,957 I can resign, and it's fine because Don wants me at 10:00. 865 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,799 I hope you don't do that. 866 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:52,993 I hope you stay here. 867 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,114 Good show. 868 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,638 Can you move his BlackBerry off the desk? 869 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,632 - I can see it in the shot. - Will. 870 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,431 Can you move your BlackBerry off the desk? 871 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,155 Oh! 872 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,394 That wouldn't have happened if he'd had one of those rubber protectors. 873 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,278 - Does 3 have to change lenses? - No, we're good. 874 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,592 In four, three, two. Roll V.T.R. 875 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,879 Good evening. I'm Will McAvoy. 876 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,476 Deepwater Horizon continues to spill oil even as it sinks into the Gulf, 877 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,512 a Republican candidate for senate in Nevada 878 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,956 advocates poor people paying doctors with chickens, 879 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,078 and Greece activates a $45 billion aid package. 880 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,033 But we begin tonight in Arizona, 881 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,875 where Governor Jan Brewer today signed into law SB 1070, 882 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,958 which allows police to ask for documentation 883 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,760 from anyone suspected of being in the country illegally. 884 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,672 Our coverage begins with Rachel Sachs 885 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,558 at the statehouse in Phoenix. Rachel? 886 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,154 I have no idea if the president even knows 887 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,312 that an entire Exxon Valdez is spilling into the Gulf every four days. 888 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,516 Are you really not sure? 889 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,353 Because that would make you dumber than previous estimates. 890 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,635 - Would the two of you shut up? - Sorry. 891 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:03,790 I miss my BlackBerry. 892 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,555 Joining us tonight from Washington is Daniel Mendoza, 893 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,876 Deputy Director of the National Council of La Raza, 894 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,192 the largest Hispanic civil rights organization in the US. 895 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,720 Good evening, Mr. Mendoza. 896 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,393 Thanks for inviting me here to speak to you, Will. 897 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:16,756 Let's jump right in. 898 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,710 Estimates are that illegal immigrants cost Arizonans $2.7 billion a year. 899 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,792 - Is that a problem worth fixing? - Of course it is. 900 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,917 But if it's an economic issue, you need to consider 901 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,635 that deporting 12 million undocumented workers 902 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:32,600 will drain 2.5 trillion over the next 10 years from our GDP. 903 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,913 Arizona residents overwhelmingly favor spending that money. 904 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,400 Back in two minutes. 905 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,239 - We don't have 1705. - Joey. 906 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,756 - Thirty seconds out. - All right, 907 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,991 we know this next segment's going to be a problem. 908 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,150 Really? 909 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,960 Why do you automatically assume that a hospitality management major 910 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,795 won't be able to speak with sophistication about constitutional law? 911 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,910 Make sure everybody knows this is what blowing it looks like. 912 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,230 They know. 913 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,030 Twenty out. 914 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,474 It's gonna be fine. 915 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,836 The PhD is cool with illegal immigrants 916 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,277 as long as they're checked for diseases like smallpox and gayness. 917 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,592 I'm not sure I gave Will the best form of the argument. 918 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,429 - Didn't we cure small... - Yes. 919 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,956 Fifteen back. 920 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,878 Does the militia guy really want his gun in the shot? 921 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,350 I asked him that and he said, "This isn't a gun, it's a rifle. 922 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,319 "And this rifle has a name, and her name is Jenny." 923 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,517 If you keep covering for people, I don't know who can do what. 924 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,120 - I wasn't covering. - You've got a crush on this girl. 925 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,072 You told me to. And, no, I don't. 926 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,311 In three, two. Cue Will. 927 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,394 Welcome back. We're discussing Arizona's immigration bill SB 1070, 928 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,711 the Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act, 929 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,554 which was signed into law today by Governor Jan Brewer. 930 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,960 Joining me now by satellite 931 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,117 are three strong supporters of the new law, 932 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,033 Dr. Dwayne Sotter, an academic 933 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,277 who's written extensively about immigration policy, 934 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,636 Ross Fernholm, a former Arizona State Patrolman, 935 00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:00,519 who now runs the all-volunteer Independence Border Guards in Yuma, 936 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,275 and Gwen Lalley, a junior at the University of New Mexico 937 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,995 and the second runner-up in last night's Miss USA pageant, 938 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,232 who was asked about this very issue onstage 939 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,471 and who believes her answer was what kept her from winning. 940 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,829 Thank you all for being here. 941 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,996 - Thank you. - Thank you. 942 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,480 Will, I wanna be very clear, 943 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,994 my answer didn't keep me from winning, 944 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,839 it kept me from being first runner-up. 945 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,798 - And we're off. - Okay. 946 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,230 Dr. Sotter, this is your field of expertise, 947 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,470 so let's kick it off with you. 948 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,950 What do you say to those who argue that SB 1070 949 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,556 is just targeting Americans on the basis of skin color and nationality alone? 950 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,120 Absolutely, Will. 951 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,189 What would you say to them? 952 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,634 I'd say absolutely. 953 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:36,996 The bill does not target religion or Muslims 954 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,749 or homosexuality, just illegal Mexicans. 955 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,432 Well, yes, but you would also say, right, 956 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,796 that the state legislature has taken great pains 957 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,913 to ensure that it isn't a racial profiling law, 958 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,799 even going so far as to amend it to include the following language. 959 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,950 Go 24. 960 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,440 "Prosecutors would not investigate 961 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,115 "complaints based on race, color or national origin." 962 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,429 That's right, just Mexicans. 963 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,598 - Dr. Sotter... - Forgive me, Will. Latinos and Latinas. 964 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,434 And the argument that we don't want to be a country 965 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,354 that pulls people over and asks for their papers based on how they look? 966 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,233 Yeah, I don't like it any more than you do, 967 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,116 but that wouldn't be the case if it weren't for the Latinos and Latinas, 968 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,312 el "criminelos," los "ilegatos." 969 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,198 That's not Spanish. 970 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,876 Gwen, let's go to you. 971 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,599 You were asked last night about the immigration law, 972 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,592 and you said it was an issue of states' rights. 973 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,034 And for that I paid a price. 974 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,234 That notwithstanding, you raised an interesting issue. 975 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,349 This law will surely be challenged in the courts on constitutional grounds. 976 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,394 After all, states aren't allowed to create their own foreign policy, 977 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,756 but it sounds like you've got the right answer to that. 978 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,830 Which is... 979 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,673 I'm a survivor and I don't know the word "quit." 980 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,194 - Probably other words, too. - Shut it. 981 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,117 States aren't allowed to create their own foreign policy, but... 982 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,674 But this isn't about foreign policy, it's about law enforcement. 983 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,478 Decades of federal inaction 984 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,792 have led to a dangerous and unstable situation on Arizona's border. 985 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,317 And if the federal government can't or won't act to uphold the law, 986 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,438 then it's up to the states to exercise their power and fill that void. 987 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,910 I'm an Ameri-can, Will, not an Ameri-can't. 988 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,634 - Let's dump out of it. - Ross. 989 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,120 - Yes. - No, the whole thing, dump out of it. 990 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,350 I'm gonna go ahead and assume 991 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,352 that you're a supporter of Second Amendment rights, 992 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,750 judging by the rifle you've placed in your live shot. 993 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,876 Yes, sir. 994 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,236 A frequent argument you hear from gun rights advocates 995 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,630 is that we don't need any more new laws, 996 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:29,157 what we need is a government to enforce the laws we already have. 997 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,596 Couldn't the same be said about immigration policy? 998 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,796 Yes, sir. 999 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,918 I'm saying you're a supporter of the new law, right? 1000 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,798 - Yes, sir. - I can't take my eyes off of it. 1001 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,075 Because? 1002 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,079 Because laws that are unwieldy and unenforceable aren't laws at all. 1003 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,480 - I don't follow. - Dump out of it. 1004 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,119 - And, Mr. McAdoo... - McAvoy. 1005 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,634 - I beg your pardon? - Doesn't matter. 1006 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:52,552 Why don't we just build a damn wall? 1007 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,552 The Chinese built one and you can see it from space. 1008 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,079 - Are the Chinese better than us? - No. 1009 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,230 Although there's an old saying, 1010 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,040 "Show me a 15-foot wall and I'll show you a 16-foot ladder." 1011 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,634 Then let's just build a 17-foot wall. 1012 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:05,315 - Hell, build it 18 feet. - Yes. Yep. 1013 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,517 - But you see their point, right? - Whose point? 1014 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,315 The people who build ladders. 1015 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,916 - How about we get... - I'm sorry, okay? 1016 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,754 - I'm sorry. Just dump out of it. - Will, can I jump in? 1017 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,593 - She cannot jump in. - Jump on in, Gwen. 1018 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,273 - I think we're creating an environment... - Ugh! 1019 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,317 ...where pageant contestants are afraid to speak their minds 1020 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,359 when it comes to important questions and whatnot, 1021 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,233 and that's not the America I grew up in. 1022 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,551 You're 20 years old. It is the America you grew up in. 1023 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,592 - Not in Oklahoma. - Especially in Oklahoma. 1024 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,080 But we're gonna have to leave it there. 1025 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,676 When we come back, Deepwater Horizon sinks to the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico. 1026 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,470 - I envy it. 1027 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,036 With the White House now getting offers of assistance 1028 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,430 from other countries to help plug the gushing well. 1029 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,716 What's this new SOT? What's 907? 1030 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,678 - Will gave it to me last minute. - What is it? 1031 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,114 It's Sarah Palin on the spill. 1032 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,669 Former Alaskan governor and vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin 1033 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,592 weighed in earlier today on Fox News. 1034 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,080 Go 907. 1035 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,197 Well, then, what the federal government should have done 1036 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,472 was accept the assistance of foreign countries, 1037 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,598 of entrepreneurial Americans who have had solutions 1038 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,194 - that they wanted presented. - Who? 1039 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,920 They can't even get a phone call returned, Bill. 1040 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,400 The Dutch. They are known, 1041 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,234 in the Norwegian, they are known for dikes 1042 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,994 and for cleaning up water and for dealing with spills. 1043 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,549 They offered to help, and yet, no, they, too, 1044 00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:19,951 with the proverbial can't even get a phone call back. 1045 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,480 Okay, what she was saying was that... 1046 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,110 All yours. 1047 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,193 Yes, okay, the Dutch live in Holland and Norwegians live in Norway. 1048 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,397 That's a mistake that... People make that. 1049 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:35,033 And I think Governor Palin was referring to an old fairy tale about a boy. 1050 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,680 She was saying that people were offering to help, and that's great, 1051 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,592 and phone calls will be returned. 1052 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,596 William Duncan McAvoy. 1053 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,949 I think your parents wanted to make it plainly understood that you are Anglo-Saxon. 1054 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,590 I came up to personally apologize for tonight's show. 1055 00:44:57,720 --> 00:44:59,120 The show kind of got away from you a little. 1056 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,600 It bordered on unprofessional. 1057 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,635 Here's unprofessional, here's the border, and here's professional, 1058 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,638 and all the way back here is tonight's show. 1059 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,152 - It was my fault. - Yeah. 1060 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,674 Did you know I got an e-mail from MacKenzie today saying... 1061 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,036 God. Yeah. I forgot you were gonna see that. 1062 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,873 Know how many people work at this company? 1063 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,156 Well, in the cable news division, I guess about 350. 1064 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,038 178,000. 1065 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,036 Guys who sell jet engines got that e-mail. 1066 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,396 By the way, they also own a tabloid magazine. 1067 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,515 I'm inured to it, it happened. How's gossip gonna be worse? 1068 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,435 It's been three years. Time hasn't helped? 1069 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,238 - No. - I wish you had told me. 1070 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,915 What would you have said? 1071 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,992 - I'd have made you feel better. - How? 1072 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,037 I don't know. I do it all the time. 1073 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,556 Get it together down there, fast. 1074 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,356 - Got it. - One more thing. 1075 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,120 Your daily private meetings with Reese are over. 1076 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,676 Charlie, I respect you more than anyone I know, 1077 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,991 but I'm the one sitting in that chair. 1078 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,034 Yes, you are. 1079 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,234 People across America are watching Arizona, 1080 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,274 seeing how we implement this law, 1081 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,194 ready to jump on even the slightest misstep. 1082 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,034 Many opponents aren't even waiting for that. 1083 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,600 You need a drink? 1084 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,310 Sure. 1085 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,234 There's a karaoke bar down the street we go to. 1086 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,040 Drinks and appetizers are $3 until 9:00. 1087 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,030 It's 9:15. 1088 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,396 We sent an intern down at 8:55 to order 30 drinks 1089 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,995 and four platters of tuna jerky. 1090 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,311 The downside's the karaoke, 1091 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,357 but it's the only place nearby that stays open late, 1092 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,193 unless you want to go to the theater district. 1093 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,840 I'd have thought the downside would be the four platters of tuna jerky. 1094 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,720 It's an affordable dinner. 1095 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,992 Let's go. 1096 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,231 - Are you in or are you out? - What? 1097 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,640 Are you in or are you out? 1098 00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:18,756 Are we doing this, then? 1099 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,240 I don't understand. Are you mad at me right now? 1100 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,198 Palin. How did Palin get into the rundown? 1101 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,353 First of all, I'm the EP. Don't slip... 1102 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,352 I'm the managing editor and I don't need your permission... 1103 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,035 Yes, you do, and you didn't ask for it 'cause you knew you wouldn't get it. 1104 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,711 I made it clear that this show isn't going to participate 1105 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,360 in the endless cycle of co-dependency between Palin... 1106 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,033 - I know. - And insult to injury. 1107 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,555 You twisted yourself into a Windsor knot to save her. 1108 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,514 "I'm sure that what the Governor meant was 1109 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,480 "that the Dutch living in Norwegia have good ideas. 1110 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,233 "And since she has an intimate knowledge 1111 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,357 "of all calls going into and out of the White House, 1112 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,877 "she's a credible source on whether the Swedisians 1113 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,314 "have gotten their message returned." 1114 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,432 First of all, the impression, uncanny. 1115 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,876 I'm not the one who asked Victoria's Secret 1116 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,270 to do five minutes of economic reporting every night. 1117 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,313 Victoria's Secret has a PhD in economics from Duke 1118 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,073 and is an adjunct professor at Columbia. 1119 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,560 Are you in or are you out? 1120 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,359 I have to give you credit for thinking you can chew me out 1121 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,796 - on this particular... - I'll chew you out on any particular day. 1122 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,270 And by the way, when I say, "Dump out of it," dump out of it. 1123 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:18,879 Reese got in your head. 1124 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,313 And so you put the almost-one-term governor of a state where nobody lives on our air. 1125 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,835 - I'm don't believe I'm hearing... - Yes, we fucked up 1126 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,398 on a huge subject, but ours was a mistake. 1127 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,880 Yours was fear, 1128 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,473 a need to be loved by strangers and not our show. 1129 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,033 Be the leader, Will. 1130 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,677 Be the moral center of this show. 1131 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,159 Be the integrity. 1132 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,835 Today's Friday. 1133 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,834 By Monday, I want to know are you in or are you out? 1134 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,872 Does anyone believe I just got... 1135 00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:23,040 We want to be the ones to do it. 1136 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,190 We want to be the ones to do 2.0. We can do this. 1137 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,518 Give me a second. 1138 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,715 How you doing? 1139 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,310 I'm doing all right, all rings consisted... 1140 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,392 Considered. 1141 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,153 How much have you had to drink? 1142 00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:50,913 I won't lie to you, Don. 1143 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,760 - Yes? - What? 1144 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,440 You said, "I won't lie to you, Don," and then you didn't say anything else. 1145 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,670 - I've had a drink. - A whole one? 1146 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,513 - Yeah. - That's too much for you. 1147 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:00,676 It is not. 1148 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,680 Come to 10:00. 1149 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,478 I really appreciate your offer, 1150 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,634 but I think you're offering it because I'm your girlfriend. 1151 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,314 What's wrong with that? 1152 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,434 Ah, oh... 1153 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,036 You're supposed to say, "No, I'm not." 1154 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,998 You're just inexperienced. I will coach you up. 1155 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,549 I want to be a part of what Will and MacKenzie are trying to do. 1156 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,120 Will and MacKenzie are gonna fail. 1157 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,749 Jesus Christ, what's... 1158 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,117 Just because the scenery fell down doesn't mean it's not a good play. 1159 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,950 Yeah, I don't know what that meant, but I'm not talking about tonight. 1160 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,239 Nobody's gonna watch a classroom. 1161 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,597 They'll either be bored or infuriated, and you will bleed viewers. 1162 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:38,473 And my show with Elliot will get moved to 8:00. 1163 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,472 And at that point, I don't know that I'll be able to help you. 1164 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,594 It was your fault. 1165 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,716 Let's break up. 1166 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,871 - What did I do now? - You were too supportive. 1167 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,152 - Maggie... - I feel myself suffocating from your support. 1168 00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:50,720 You want truth or support? 1169 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,871 Did you think I didn't know I fucked up? 1170 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,679 I've been saying it. 1171 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,712 I have $45,000 in student loans to pay off, 1172 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,519 I spend three weeks' take-home 1173 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,069 on half a one-bedroom apartment the size of a tool shed, 1174 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,800 and I'm sitting alone at a bar with a drink that was made an hour ago. 1175 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,758 A good day is when I have quarters for a dryer. 1176 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,071 A bad day is when I blow a newscast. 1177 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,560 That's my spectrum. 1178 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,598 Support is what I wanted right then. 1179 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,156 And I think you're rooting for Will to fail. 1180 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,513 You just said it would be in your best interest... 1181 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,630 Listen... 1182 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,837 And I know he's not the cuddliest guy in the world, 1183 00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:27,311 but he is trying to do good, 1184 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,790 and he's risking a lot to do it, and you and Reese... 1185 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,600 Yeah, yeah. Let's break up. 1186 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,599 Don't, no, don't go like this. 1187 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,195 I'm sorry. I said the wrong thing. 1188 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,715 Don... 1189 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,477 Oh, I'm on fire today. 1190 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,510 - Evening, Mr. McAvoy. - Good evening, Manny. 1191 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,279 We know how to live with our neighbors here. 1192 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,430 What's that? 1193 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:54,556 Your show tonight. 1194 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,635 I... 1195 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,715 You have to do a shot. 1196 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,479 I really only drink when I'm scared. 1197 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,759 I would like to have a word with you right here and right now. 1198 00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:51,710 Yes, ma'am. 1199 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,759 Don't "Yes, ma'am" me with your sheepish charm. 1200 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,752 Would you like to go someplace private? 1201 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,559 I... You covered for me. 1202 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,711 - Don't worry about it. - I wasn't thanking you. 1203 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,520 You and Don, why do you think I need protecting? 1204 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,717 You both like the fantasy of a girl in distress? 1205 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,235 - How about I put you in a cab? - I take the subway. 1206 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,676 - Why do you think I need... - I don't. 1207 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,638 But I cover for you, Mac covers for me, 1208 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:14,598 Will covers for everybody, Charlie covers for Will. 1209 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,239 How come nobody's yelling at me? 1210 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,153 - You know how bad you screwed up, right? - Yes. 1211 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:19,390 Is there anyone who feels worse than you do? 1212 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,470 No. 1213 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,676 Then I doubt it'll ever happen again. 1214 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,475 Let me give you money for a cab. 1215 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,473 No, I have to go to Don's apartment and apologize. 1216 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,437 - For what? - For suggesting he would... 1217 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,120 You know, for asking... 1218 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,914 I'll think of it on the way. 1219 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,120 We break up, I apologize, everything's fine. 1220 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,079 Sounds like a super-healthy relationship. 1221 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,072 - I'd fight for it. - I will fight for it. 1222 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,869 And I'll make it work through sheer force of will, 1223 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,952 just like MacKenzie will with Will, 1224 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,430 and just like I made the immigration segment work. 1225 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,716 Will and MacKenzie are going to kill each other, 1226 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,519 and the immigration segment was a train wreck. 1227 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,990 You should shut up more than you do. Do people tell you that? 1228 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,356 No. 1229 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,155 You're being polite. 1230 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,229 I still don't know why I'm being mean to you. 1231 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,709 Tess? 1232 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,157 - Would you? - Yeah. 1233 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,880 - Sorry. - Hang on, all of you. 1234 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:22,955 I'm your senior producer. 1235 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,760 Fuck up again like this, I'm gonna get mad. 1236 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,517 That's it. Take her to Don's place. 1237 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,554 - That was so awesome. - Thank you. 1238 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,074 - Do a shot. - No. 1239 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,840 - Hello? - Neal, it's Will. 1240 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,560 - I hope you don't mind my calling so late. - No. 1241 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,994 I got your number from, you know, there's a booklet. 1242 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,958 - The office directory. - Yeah. 1243 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,474 The guy you found in Spokane, 1244 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,835 I want you to get in touch with him 1245 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,479 and tell him that you're gonna pay for a cab 1246 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,835 to take him to and from work. 1247 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,116 He should send you the receipts, then give them to me. 1248 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,476 Will... 1249 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,560 Come on, let me post this on your blog. 1250 00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:13,200 - No. - Will... 1251 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,795 - Keep my name out of it. - Yes, sir. 1252 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:17,750 Is MacKenzie around there? 1253 00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:20,435 Yeah. 1254 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,557 - Can you put her on the phone? - Sure. 1255 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,240 It's Will. 1256 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,229 I'm sorry about everything. 1257 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,711 I'm just so sorry. 1258 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,599 - There's no way I can even... - I'm in. 1259 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,915 - What? - I'm in. I'll see you on Monday. 1260 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,594 - Are you still gonna worry about the ratings? - Yes. 1261 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,434 - Still gonna worry about being popular? - Yeah. 1262 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,000 About being loved by strangers? 1263 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,754 Are you gonna keep asking me questions that all mean the same thing? 1264 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,793 Till I get the right answer. 1265 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,270 I'm in. 1266 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,789 There it is.