1
00:00:34,535 --> 00:00:37,880
We must adjust to changing times...

2
00:00:44,586 --> 00:00:47,806
...execute the office of President
of the United States...

3
00:01:35,804 --> 00:01:38,683
I challenge a new generation
of young Americans...

4
00:02:05,167 --> 00:02:07,590
My biggest fantasy when I was a kid

5
00:02:07,711 --> 00:02:10,715
was that I would go to see
my favorite band play,

6
00:02:10,839 --> 00:02:13,342
and someone would come out and say,

7
00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:17,938
"Sorry, the band can't play tonight,
their drummer broke his fuckin' leg.

8
00:02:18,055 --> 00:02:19,978
"Unless there's someone
that knows all the songs..."

9
00:02:20,098 --> 00:02:23,523
Then, of course, I would jump up
and be the greatest drummer in the world.

10
00:02:23,644 --> 00:02:25,487
I fantasized about that.

11
00:02:31,068 --> 00:02:33,696
With Nirvana, the process
of making the music

12
00:02:33,821 --> 00:02:37,371
was so entirely simple and pure and real.

13
00:02:37,491 --> 00:02:40,745
Kurt was a great lyricist,
he had a beautiful voice,

14
00:02:40,869 --> 00:02:43,793
and he wrote really simple songs.

15
00:02:43,914 --> 00:02:48,010
There were things I learned about songwriting
from being in a band with Kurt

16
00:02:48,126 --> 00:02:51,096
that I don't think anyone else
could have taught me.

17
00:03:02,224 --> 00:03:03,897
That record, Nevermind, came out

18
00:03:04,017 --> 00:03:07,521
almost a year to the day
after I had joined the band.

19
00:03:08,397 --> 00:03:10,866
This song is called Smells Like Teen Spirit.

20
00:03:10,983 --> 00:03:12,610
Before Dave had joined the band,

21
00:03:12,734 --> 00:03:17,831
there was a message on my
answering machine from Kurt, saying,

22
00:03:17,948 --> 00:03:22,294
"Butch! We have the best drummer in the
world! He's the greatest drummer in the world.

23
00:03:22,411 --> 00:03:26,837
"I'm not kidding you. He's awesome, dude!"
And he hung up.

24
00:03:26,957 --> 00:03:30,632
About a week later we were in LA
and I walked into a rehearsal space with him.

25
00:03:30,752 --> 00:03:33,892
And Dave walked up - skinny, long hair...

26
00:03:34,006 --> 00:03:36,885
"Hey, man, I'm Dave. Nice to meet you."
He was just full of energy.

27
00:03:37,009 --> 00:03:40,263
I was like, "Let's play.
Play me some songs, you guys."

28
00:03:40,387 --> 00:03:42,355
And they played Teen Spirit.

29
00:03:42,472 --> 00:03:43,894
Dave did the...

30
00:03:44,892 --> 00:03:46,439
...and it just floored me.

31
00:03:55,611 --> 00:03:57,784
Of course, everybody was telling the band

32
00:03:57,905 --> 00:04:00,533
that they thought we were great,

33
00:04:00,657 --> 00:04:02,955
but I don't think the three of us ever believed

34
00:04:03,076 --> 00:04:05,465
a word of anything anyone was telling us.

35
00:04:05,579 --> 00:04:10,255
We never thought we were gonna sell
a million records.

36
00:04:11,126 --> 00:04:15,347
None of us had any idea that it was gonna
completely change my life and their lives.

37
00:04:15,464 --> 00:04:19,310
But I knew that they sounded really tight
and pretty focused,

38
00:04:19,426 --> 00:04:22,350
and that they had written
some amazingly powerful songs.

39
00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:29,103
We knew something was happening

40
00:04:29,227 --> 00:04:32,231
because the atmosphere of the gigs
just changed.

41
00:04:32,356 --> 00:04:37,613
They went from being cool, hipster,
underground people in a club

42
00:04:37,736 --> 00:04:41,331
to, like...
jocks were coming to the show.

43
00:04:41,448 --> 00:04:42,995
That was the first thing, like,

44
00:04:43,116 --> 00:04:45,505
"Oh my God, there's jocks here,"
you know?

45
00:04:45,619 --> 00:04:48,122
"That's kind of strange.
They like our music?

46
00:04:48,246 --> 00:04:51,466
"You used to kick my fucking ass
for listening to this music."

47
00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:17,947
I was a really big fan of Nirvana,
like everybody else,

48
00:05:18,068 --> 00:05:20,992
and I happened to be reading
an interview with Kurt

49
00:05:21,113 --> 00:05:22,365
where he had mentioned,

50
00:05:22,489 --> 00:05:26,619
Nirvana was always meant to be a four-piece,
a two-guitar band.

51
00:05:26,743 --> 00:05:31,089
It was never meant to be a three-piece.
I thought, "Oh, well that's my in."

52
00:05:41,758 --> 00:05:45,433
Pat is from this legendary punk rock band
called the Germs

53
00:05:45,554 --> 00:05:47,272
that we all grew up listening to.

54
00:05:47,389 --> 00:05:50,438
There was no one more badass
than the Germs.

55
00:05:50,559 --> 00:05:52,357
Germs didn't give a fuck.

56
00:05:57,190 --> 00:06:00,160
So Pat shows up in Seattle,
and all of us were just like,

57
00:06:00,277 --> 00:06:02,996
"Oh my God, hey, it's Pat Smear
from the Germs.

58
00:06:04,281 --> 00:06:05,783
"He's alive?"

59
00:06:05,907 --> 00:06:08,080
So now Nirvana is hitting the big halls,

60
00:06:08,201 --> 00:06:11,375
with guitarist Pat Smear
helping to make the loud louder.

61
00:06:11,496 --> 00:06:15,091
The day before the first rehearsal
I saw my picture on MTV News, saying,

62
00:06:15,208 --> 00:06:17,927
"Nirvana has a new guitar player, Pat Smear."

63
00:06:18,045 --> 00:06:20,343
I was like, "My God, it's real! There it is!"

64
00:06:28,221 --> 00:06:31,851
I don't think Kurt wanted to be
a huge fuckin' rock star.

65
00:06:31,975 --> 00:06:37,152
And I don't think he could handle
how complicated it had all become.

66
00:06:43,653 --> 00:06:48,659
No one was very happy with the tour,
or the band.

67
00:06:49,201 --> 00:06:50,544
So Kurt decided he wants a break,

68
00:06:50,660 --> 00:06:52,879
even though we're on this tour
you can't get out of,

69
00:06:52,996 --> 00:06:54,873
because you're a big band
and you get sued.

70
00:06:54,998 --> 00:06:59,970
We had, like, a week and a half off
in between two legs of the tour.

71
00:07:00,087 --> 00:07:02,715
I decided to fly home.

72
00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:09,142
And Kurt went to Rome, where he was
meeting Courtney Love, his wife.

73
00:07:12,766 --> 00:07:14,643
Hi, I'm Tabitha Soren, with MTV News.

74
00:07:14,768 --> 00:07:16,691
Nirvana front man Kurt Cobain

75
00:07:16,812 --> 00:07:20,817
was hospitalized in a coma in Rome, Italy
on Friday morning...

76
00:07:20,941 --> 00:07:28,575
I turn on the TV, and Kurt was being
wheeled away in an ambulance in Rome.

77
00:07:29,991 --> 00:07:35,543
I went to the hospital with him, and I didn't
know what to do, because I thought,

78
00:07:35,664 --> 00:07:39,294
"Do I say, this is Kurt Cobain,
take care of him right away, VIP,"

79
00:07:40,001 --> 00:07:43,505
or do I say, "This is just some guy,
don't call the press"?

80
00:07:43,630 --> 00:07:50,309
I finally went with, "This is Kurt Cobain, VIP.
Do something about it."

81
00:07:52,472 --> 00:07:55,316
Nirvana spokespeople reported
encouraging signs,

82
00:07:55,433 --> 00:07:58,357
saying they've been told Kurt Cobain
was responding to his name,

83
00:07:58,478 --> 00:08:00,981
opening his eyes,
and squeezing his wife's hand.

84
00:08:01,648 --> 00:08:05,198
When he came home,
I remember talking to him on the phone,

85
00:08:05,318 --> 00:08:11,667
and saying, "Hey man,
I don't want you to die, OK?"

86
00:08:12,826 --> 00:08:16,956
And he was very apologetic,
"No, I'm sorry, it was a big mistake.

87
00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,835
"I took these pills, I was drinking
this champagne and I was in Rome...

88
00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,840
"it was, just a...
just made a mistake."

89
00:08:30,260 --> 00:08:33,514
It was really sad. I had a message
from Kurt, but I wasn't home.

90
00:08:33,638 --> 00:08:36,983
And so whatever help he needed from me,
I couldn't help him.

91
00:08:38,435 --> 00:08:41,530
And that was the last time
lever talked to him or saw him.

92
00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:16,269
When I found out that he had killed himself...

93
00:09:17,224 --> 00:09:19,226
I was kind of numb.

94
00:09:21,811 --> 00:09:24,405
I knew that it...

95
00:09:25,523 --> 00:09:30,404
He was gone,
but I didn't know how to feel.

96
00:09:31,988 --> 00:09:34,912
Kurt Cobain, a sweet and gifted man,
dead at the age of 27.

97
00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:38,037
To Courtney Love,
one-year-old Frances Bean Cobain,

98
00:09:38,161 --> 00:09:40,914
Dave Grohl, Kris Novoselic and Pat Smear,
our deepest sympathies.

99
00:09:50,298 --> 00:09:52,096
Everybody knew Kurt was in a bad way,

100
00:09:52,217 --> 00:09:55,221
but that's something
you never expect to happen.

101
00:09:55,345 --> 00:09:57,143
When someone is that down and out

102
00:09:57,264 --> 00:10:01,314
you still can't comprehend that they're
actually gonna commit suicide.

103
00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:02,947
It was terrible.

104
00:10:17,784 --> 00:10:23,291
After Kurt died, I didn't wanna play music.
I didn't wanna play the drums.

105
00:10:23,999 --> 00:10:26,752
When Kurt died,
it wasn't just that my friend died.

106
00:10:26,876 --> 00:10:31,473
It was my whole life kinda died around it
and with him, you know?

107
00:10:31,589 --> 00:10:35,093
And I quit the music business.

108
00:10:42,267 --> 00:10:45,362
At some point, I was finally motivated.

109
00:10:45,478 --> 00:10:49,233
"I'm gonna get myself out of this funk
I've been in for the last eight months."

110
00:10:49,357 --> 00:10:51,234
Or whatever it was, you know?

111
00:10:51,359 --> 00:10:55,614
I decided that I was gonna take
my favorite songs

112
00:10:55,739 --> 00:10:59,369
that I'd written over the last four or five years
that no one had heard...

113
00:11:00,243 --> 00:11:03,747
and I was going to record them...

114
00:11:03,872 --> 00:11:07,126
...at a 24-track studio
down the street from my house.

115
00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:12,131
And it was really exciting,
because I was doing it totally by myself.

116
00:11:12,255 --> 00:11:16,601
I didn't know why I was doing it.
I just wanted to do something, you know?

117
00:11:16,718 --> 00:11:18,686
So I booked a week at the studio,

118
00:11:18,803 --> 00:11:23,775
and at the end of the week, I had a cassette,
and it sounded good.

119
00:11:23,892 --> 00:11:26,771
And I started thinking,
"I won't put my name on it.

120
00:11:26,895 --> 00:11:29,114
"People will imagine it's just a band.

121
00:11:29,230 --> 00:11:31,699
"They won't know it's the guy from Nirvana."

122
00:11:37,864 --> 00:11:41,209
In the middle of that session,
I get a call at the studio

123
00:11:41,326 --> 00:11:45,547
that Tom Petty wants me to come
play drums for him on Saturday Night Live.

124
00:11:49,918 --> 00:11:53,172
I just thought,
"Oh my God, he's a hero of mine."

125
00:11:53,296 --> 00:11:58,974
And I had the opportunity to join the band
if I wanted to join the band.

126
00:11:59,094 --> 00:12:01,813
I really had to kind of choose.

127
00:12:01,930 --> 00:12:08,529
Was I going to play drums with Torn Petty,
or was I gonna start over from scratch

128
00:12:08,645 --> 00:12:11,615
and be the lead singer
and guitar player of a band,

129
00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:16,828
do something I'd never done before,
that I was terrified doing?

130
00:12:16,945 --> 00:12:19,664
Believe me, it was not easy to tell Tom Petty

131
00:12:19,781 --> 00:12:22,079
that I wasn't going to be his drummer.

132
00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,623
It was not an easy decision to make.

133
00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:29,625
I can still see my hand
just putting the phone down,

134
00:12:29,749 --> 00:12:34,004
and thinking, "OK, let's see what happens."

135
00:12:40,927 --> 00:12:44,101
There was a band in Seattle
called Sunny Day Real Estate.

136
00:12:44,222 --> 00:12:46,316
And a good friend of mine told me

137
00:12:46,433 --> 00:12:49,778
that Sunny Day Real Estate
were playing a show,

138
00:12:49,894 --> 00:12:52,738
and it was gonna be their last show
because they were breaking up.

139
00:12:52,856 --> 00:12:54,153
My band was falling apart

140
00:12:54,274 --> 00:12:58,871
about the same time that
Dave found himself without a band.

141
00:12:58,987 --> 00:13:01,206
We were broken up
while we were doing the tour.

142
00:13:01,322 --> 00:13:02,995
We decided we weren't gonna do it anymore,

143
00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:05,414
but had already booked this tour,
so we were like,

144
00:13:05,535 --> 00:13:07,879
"This will be the last thing we do."

145
00:13:07,996 --> 00:13:11,500
It was ironic because that was the first tour
that we were playing shows

146
00:13:11,624 --> 00:13:15,049
where people were actually showing up.
We were like, "Oh, well!"

147
00:13:15,170 --> 00:13:17,673
I went to the show to see them play,

148
00:13:17,797 --> 00:13:21,392
knowing it was probably the last time
anyone was gonna see them play.

149
00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:25,639
And I was watching them thinking,
"That's a really good rhythm section."

150
00:13:31,186 --> 00:13:32,984
I gave them the cassette, thinking,

151
00:13:33,104 --> 00:13:36,278
"Hey, check it out.
Maybe we could jam sometime."

152
00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:39,528
Dave was the first famous person I'd ever met.

153
00:13:39,652 --> 00:13:43,998
He was just out of Nirvana, you know,
like, that was a very big deal.

154
00:13:50,038 --> 00:13:54,043
I remember the first time that
Nate and William and I got together to jam.

155
00:13:54,167 --> 00:13:57,011
It was over at William's parents' house.

156
00:13:57,128 --> 00:14:00,098
I remember going up
to William's parents' kitchen

157
00:14:00,215 --> 00:14:02,434
and sitting there after we played,

158
00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:06,305
and Dave just goes,
"You guys wanna be in the band?"

159
00:14:07,222 --> 00:14:08,724
And I was like, "Hell yeah!"

160
00:14:08,848 --> 00:14:11,772
Playing in front of people
was very difficult for me.

161
00:14:11,893 --> 00:14:13,895
I did have a conversation with Dave

162
00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:16,694
and I said,
"I don't think that I should do it."

163
00:14:17,232 --> 00:14:21,282
Dave said, "That's exactly
why you're the guy that has to do it."

164
00:14:21,402 --> 00:14:25,782
I don't know what that meant
but that convinced me, I guess.

165
00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,755
After that rehearsal, Dave brings up
that he wants a second guitar player,

166
00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:37,127
and thinks it should be Pat Smear,

167
00:14:37,252 --> 00:14:41,177
who William and I knew from him having
played in Nirvana and the Germs.

168
00:14:41,297 --> 00:14:45,018
Then Dave came over,
and he gave me a cassette.

169
00:14:45,134 --> 00:14:48,354
I listened to that whole tape,
just front to end,

170
00:14:48,471 --> 00:14:50,018
and I thought it was all great.

171
00:14:50,139 --> 00:14:54,235
I didn't have anything against Pat.
I didn't know him as a musician or as a person.

172
00:14:54,352 --> 00:14:55,945
But he lived in Los Angeles,

173
00:14:56,062 --> 00:14:58,861
and I just thought that was fucking crazy.

174
00:14:58,982 --> 00:15:01,952
The way I'd grown up,
you were in a band with your friend from school

175
00:15:02,068 --> 00:15:02,944
that you saw every day.

176
00:15:03,069 --> 00:15:05,447
You'd go home after school and get together

177
00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:08,621
at somebody's mom's house or basement
and work it out.

178
00:15:08,741 --> 00:15:11,290
You can't do that
if the guy lives in Los Angeles.

179
00:15:11,411 --> 00:15:15,257
Pat came up, we played,
and he was perfect,

180
00:15:15,373 --> 00:15:18,593
so I got over that "Him living in LA" thing.

181
00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:22,430
I might have talked to him
about trying to move to Seattle.

182
00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:26,635
All of us came from bands
that ended prematurely.

183
00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:28,853
We didn't really talk about our former bands.

184
00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:31,814
For me, it was always
kind of a touchy subject.

185
00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:35,276
At this point in time,
Kurt had only been dead for a year,

186
00:15:36,102 --> 00:15:38,196
and I didn't wanna talk about it.

187
00:15:38,313 --> 00:15:40,532
So we all entered into this new band

188
00:15:40,648 --> 00:15:44,073
like it was helping us get through the loss

189
00:15:44,193 --> 00:15:46,036
of the bands we'd been in before.

190
00:15:46,154 --> 00:15:47,656
I remember it really vividly,

191
00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:50,283
Dave saying, like, "Let's have it be fun.

192
00:15:50,408 --> 00:15:52,285
"Let's have things be out in the open.

193
00:15:52,410 --> 00:15:54,412
"Let's talk about shit.
Just no drama."

194
00:15:54,537 --> 00:15:57,541
He was like,
"I don't want it to be a stressful thing.

195
00:15:57,665 --> 00:16:01,420
"We're not gonna tour into the ground."
And...

196
00:16:01,544 --> 00:16:02,636
Which I was glad about.

197
00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:11,938
The first tour that we did,

198
00:16:12,055 --> 00:16:15,059
was with a musician named Mike Watt.

199
00:16:15,183 --> 00:16:18,733
He is a legendary punk rock bass player.

200
00:16:21,731 --> 00:16:24,405
And he asked me if I would tour with him.

201
00:16:24,525 --> 00:16:27,665
And I said, "Yeah, man.
How about this?

202
00:16:27,779 --> 00:16:33,832
<i>"I'll</i> be in your band
if my band can open up on tour."

203
00:16:34,994 --> 00:16:39,795
And Eddie Vedder, from Pearl Jam,
had done the same thing.

204
00:16:39,916 --> 00:16:41,509
And we said, "Cool,

205
00:16:41,626 --> 00:16:44,675
"Let's put together a tour
where Eddie's other band,

206
00:16:44,796 --> 00:16:48,096
"they were called Hovercraft,
my band - Foo Fighters,

207
00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:52,221
"would open up for Watt,
and we would all be his band."

208
00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:57,726
It was just this, like,
revolving cast of musicians.

209
00:16:57,850 --> 00:17:00,444
Each song would have a different line-up.

210
00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:09,988
Instead of getting a bus for the first tour...
"We'll get a van."

211
00:17:10,113 --> 00:17:14,710
I'd never done a bus tour, so to me it was
totally obvious, "Yeah, we'll get a van.

212
00:17:14,826 --> 00:17:19,206
"What, we get to buy a brand new one?
Ha! Awesome!"

213
00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:33,637
We played six shows a week,

214
00:17:33,761 --> 00:17:38,392
and the places held maybe anywhere
from 300 to 600 people,

215
00:17:38,516 --> 00:17:42,612
and Foo Fighters were making
500 bucks a night or something like that.

216
00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:51,530
As the tour was going on,
the venues were getting bigger,

217
00:17:51,654 --> 00:17:56,911
and we started having that
really nice but weird sort of pressure.

218
00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:22,774
There was a lot of attention,
because it was Dave's first tour after Nirvana.

219
00:18:22,894 --> 00:18:27,320
The shows had
all of these Nirvana fans that came.

220
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,319
They didn't know the songs
because the record hadn't been out yet.

221
00:18:30,443 --> 00:18:33,697
So there was a song called Marigold
by Nirvana,

222
00:18:33,821 --> 00:18:35,994
that Dave had written and sang on.

223
00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:39,335
It was the only thing they knew to yell out
when we were playing.

224
00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:41,830
So you'd just hear, "Marigold!"

225
00:18:41,954 --> 00:18:44,548
Marigold! Marigold! Marigold!

226
00:18:47,251 --> 00:18:48,844
Shut up!

227
00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:50,133
And we never played it.

228
00:18:50,254 --> 00:18:52,382
How weird that must have been for Dave.

229
00:18:52,507 --> 00:18:53,929
Arriving in record stores Tuesday

230
00:18:54,050 --> 00:18:57,020
was one of the most buzzed-about
new releases of the year,

231
00:18:57,136 --> 00:19:01,767
the self-titled debut album by Nirvana drummer
Dave Grohl's new band, Foo Fighters,

232
00:19:01,891 --> 00:19:04,269
who wowed crowds
on Mike Watt's recent club tour.

233
00:19:04,393 --> 00:19:08,193
Personally, to me, it was a big deal
when that record came out,

234
00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:13,946
because rather than go in
and record something as a band,

235
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:16,664
we used the stuff I had recorded on my own.

236
00:19:17,323 --> 00:19:20,793
That cassette.
That's the first record.

237
00:19:26,791 --> 00:19:30,045
Making their network television debut
right here with us,

238
00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:33,173
we couldn't be happier,
ladies and gentlemen, Foo Fighters.

239
00:19:48,771 --> 00:19:50,318
Hi, Jena!

240
00:19:56,112 --> 00:19:57,409
And the winner is...

241
00:19:57,530 --> 00:19:59,328
Foo Fighters, Big Me.

242
00:20:06,372 --> 00:20:10,468
I would like to think of this award
as some sort of closure, it's...

243
00:20:10,585 --> 00:20:15,216
Stop throwing Mentos at us at our shows.
That's what I'm trying to say.

244
00:20:30,771 --> 00:20:33,194
There were lots of interviews and,
you know,

245
00:20:33,316 --> 00:20:35,364
Dave not wanting to talk about Nirvana.

246
00:20:35,484 --> 00:20:38,328
Every question in every interview
was about Nirvana.

247
00:20:38,446 --> 00:20:43,043
You can imagine what they were,
like, "Is this song about Kurt?"

248
00:20:43,159 --> 00:20:46,584
Take any song from the record.
"Is that song about Kurt Cobain?"

249
00:20:55,129 --> 00:20:58,679
What's it like to be at a press conference
and not be asked any questions?

250
00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:01,188
Fine with me,
because I didn't wanna answer

251
00:21:01,302 --> 00:21:03,179
any of the questions that were asked.

252
00:21:09,477 --> 00:21:13,857
There were some people
that really resented me for starting this band.

253
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,319
"How dare you fucking start another band."

254
00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:21,493
They asked me, like,
"Why did you decide to carry on

255
00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:23,787
"and make music that sounds like Nirvana?"

256
00:21:23,908 --> 00:21:25,501
I said, "Well, wait a minute.

257
00:21:25,618 --> 00:21:29,339
"What do you mean,
like loud rock guitars and melodies

258
00:21:29,455 --> 00:21:34,461
"and cymbals crashing and big-ass drums?

259
00:21:36,212 --> 00:21:37,885
"'Cause that's what I do.

260
00:21:38,005 --> 00:21:43,512
"That's... I was in that band and this is, like...
That's what I do.

261
00:21:43,636 --> 00:21:46,014
"You want me to fuckin' make
a reggae record?"

262
00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:48,854
The first couple years,

263
00:21:48,975 --> 00:21:52,104
I really felt like I had to explain
and defend what I was doing,

264
00:21:52,228 --> 00:21:55,027
because, first of all,
"You're just a drummer.

265
00:21:55,147 --> 00:21:57,115
"And, what, you're trying to sing?

266
00:21:57,233 --> 00:22:01,534
"And also, you were in Nirvana,
so what the fuck is this shit?"

267
00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:06,751
So there's a... You just get to the point
where you just think,

268
00:22:08,661 --> 00:22:10,459
"Fuck you people."

269
00:22:43,529 --> 00:22:46,203
I wasn't sure what was gonna happen.
"Can Dave write more songs?

270
00:22:46,323 --> 00:22:50,294
"How is the writing process gonna work?
Will we suck?"

271
00:22:50,411 --> 00:22:52,880
I had no idea.
"Does this band have a future?"

272
00:22:52,997 --> 00:22:55,841
I knew we were gonna be OK
and be able to continue

273
00:22:55,958 --> 00:22:59,303
after I heard the song My Hero,
'cause it was great.

274
00:23:11,766 --> 00:23:14,940
There were some songs
that we just started writing

275
00:23:15,061 --> 00:23:16,563
and throwing into the set.

276
00:23:16,687 --> 00:23:20,737
There were only a couple songs that we had
that were really good openers.

277
00:23:23,444 --> 00:23:26,414
I thought, "God, I need to write
an opening song for us."

278
00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:29,875
In Europe and in England,
when bands play

279
00:23:29,992 --> 00:23:33,121
the audience don't beat the shit out
of each other like they do in America.

280
00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:35,748
They do this bounce, right?
Everybody bounces.

281
00:23:35,873 --> 00:23:37,625
So I wanted to write a song

282
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:40,003
that everyone would start bouncing to

283
00:23:40,127 --> 00:23:42,255
when we first came out and played.

284
00:23:42,379 --> 00:23:45,849
So I had a melody and a riff idea,
but I didn't know the tempo.

285
00:23:45,966 --> 00:23:51,097
So I jumped up and clown,
and I found a tempo by, like, bouncing.

286
00:23:51,222 --> 00:23:53,190
The tempo should be this...

287
00:23:57,394 --> 00:24:01,069
I wrote the song, brought it to sound check,
said, "I have this new song.

288
00:24:01,190 --> 00:24:05,320
"Let's learn it, so we can open with it
tomorrow night or tonight."

289
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,037
We sound checked, ran through it,

290
00:24:07,154 --> 00:24:10,909
the next night we opened with that song,
the audience was going...

291
00:24:11,033 --> 00:24:12,250
It worked.

292
00:24:27,216 --> 00:24:29,890
It's like, "Wow, cool. Let's keep it."

293
00:25:15,723 --> 00:25:20,194
We played, like,
18,000 shows in one year.

294
00:25:20,311 --> 00:25:23,360
I'm exaggerating, but it felt like.

295
00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:25,529
Then we just toured a lot!

296
00:25:29,028 --> 00:25:31,281
Pat was keeping track,
Pat was always...

297
00:25:31,405 --> 00:25:35,911
Every other day he'd look at me and be like,
"12 months. '13 months. '16 months."

298
00:25:36,035 --> 00:25:37,582
I was just like...

299
00:25:37,703 --> 00:25:41,378
I remember each time he would tell me
I'd be like, "No fuckin' way!"

300
00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:43,421
We've been on tour for so long.

301
00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,590
We've been a band for almost a year now,

302
00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:50,342
and I'd say about seven months
out of that year has been spent on the road.

303
00:25:50,466 --> 00:25:54,471
I wasn't some kid who was just like,
"Yeah!" at that point.

304
00:25:54,595 --> 00:25:59,021
It was just kind of like, you know...
I'm older and I'm lazier...

305
00:25:59,141 --> 00:26:00,267
What?

306
00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:04,442
...and still I'm playing the same 20 songs
2 or 300 nights a year.

307
00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:06,110
This song's called For All The Cows.

308
00:26:06,232 --> 00:26:08,485
This song is called
For All The Cows.

309
00:26:08,609 --> 00:26:09,610
It's called For All The Cows.

310
00:26:09,735 --> 00:26:11,954
This one's called For All The Cows.

311
00:26:12,071 --> 00:26:14,915
This song is called
For All The Cows.

312
00:26:57,366 --> 00:27:00,666
The second album that we made -
The Colour And The Shape,

313
00:27:00,786 --> 00:27:03,539
we decided to work
with this producer named Gil Norton.

314
00:27:03,664 --> 00:27:08,386
And Gil, at the time,
was famous for making the Pixies records.

315
00:27:15,175 --> 00:27:17,098
This was my first real recording process.

316
00:27:17,219 --> 00:27:18,892
Now there's a producer,

317
00:27:19,013 --> 00:27:23,439
someone who's not just pressing play
but actually is saying, like,

318
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:27,063
"I think that should be a C.
And you should also play it in time."

319
00:27:27,187 --> 00:27:32,910
We went into the studio with Gil
and he worked us hard, real hard.

320
00:27:33,027 --> 00:27:36,998
I was fucking terrible.
And William was having his own challenges.

321
00:27:37,114 --> 00:27:41,870
Gil called Nate and I the "rhythmless section".
So that was encouraging.

322
00:27:41,994 --> 00:27:44,918
I could tell, when I had
to do something a million times,

323
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:46,916
that it was taking longer than I wanted,

324
00:27:47,041 --> 00:27:49,294
and it was my first realization -

325
00:27:49,418 --> 00:27:53,093
"I'm not a fully-formed musician.
I've got to keep getting better."

326
00:27:53,213 --> 00:27:55,887
Constantly, there was this feeling that,

327
00:27:56,008 --> 00:27:59,308
whatever song we were working on,
Dave had a drum...

328
00:27:59,428 --> 00:28:01,897
a drum part for it already,

329
00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:03,311
in his head or whatever.

330
00:28:03,432 --> 00:28:09,530
When I've written a song,
I have kind of a clear idea

331
00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:15,369
of where the basic root accents should lie.

332
00:28:15,486 --> 00:28:17,580
That's a fancy way of saying,

333
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:20,540
I know what the drums should sound like

334
00:28:20,657 --> 00:28:23,536
in my head as I'm doing this thing.

335
00:28:24,286 --> 00:28:26,380
That's not necessarily fair

336
00:28:26,497 --> 00:28:28,625
to say that as a songwriter, you know,

337
00:28:28,749 --> 00:28:31,093
who's collaborating with other musicians.

338
00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:33,838
You're the drummer for a band

339
00:28:33,962 --> 00:28:36,761
where your singer is the greatest
rock 'n' roll drummer in the world,

340
00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:39,886
looking over your shoulder waiting for you
to do it as good as him.

341
00:28:40,010 --> 00:28:42,012
That's just fucked-up pressure.

342
00:28:42,137 --> 00:28:46,062
Regardless of how good you are,
that's just fucked-up pressure.

343
00:28:46,183 --> 00:28:49,608
And remember that William was a kid.
He was really young.

344
00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:53,323
I think that William
played the best that he could.

345
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,365
And sometimes it was great,
and sometimes it wasn't.

346
00:28:57,486 --> 00:29:02,913
What sucked about all that was, you know...

347
00:29:03,033 --> 00:29:05,206
I don't think the drum performances
were the best.

348
00:29:05,327 --> 00:29:07,750
They didn't...
They weren't horrible.

349
00:29:07,871 --> 00:29:13,753
If I listen to a song and I don't think
it has the thing that it needs,

350
00:29:14,711 --> 00:29:19,217
it's not necessarily gonna get past me
and get on an album.

351
00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:26,565
We left Seattle, and went to Los Angeles
to a different studio

352
00:29:26,682 --> 00:29:27,979
to finish this thing up.

353
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:29,693
And Dave comes in, he's like,

354
00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:31,938
"Listen, we're gonna redo..."

355
00:29:33,272 --> 00:29:35,650
"My Poor Brain."
Or whatever the song is.

356
00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:39,495
"Drum track's not quite right.
Actually, I'm doing the drums on this one.

357
00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:41,488
"We're just gonna redo it."

358
00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:44,366
William's up in Seattle
at this point in time.

359
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,955
They'd call me down and say,
"We need you to come play guitar on a song."

360
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:53,380
And I'd go down and I'd be like,
"Well, I already played this song."

361
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:57,550
"Well, we did it over."
"Oh, OK."

362
00:29:58,547 --> 00:30:00,515
You know, do it again.

363
00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:03,852
I'd go home, then I'd get called again,
"Come down and play."

364
00:30:03,969 --> 00:30:06,267
I'm like, "All right, cool. Let's do it."

365
00:30:06,388 --> 00:30:09,392
"I already played this song!"
It just kept happening.

366
00:30:09,516 --> 00:30:11,143
"What the fuck is going on here?"

367
00:30:11,268 --> 00:30:13,487
And this happens three or four times,

368
00:30:13,604 --> 00:30:16,357
like, "Hey, we're gonna try this one again."

369
00:30:16,482 --> 00:30:20,703
It ended up like, "Wait a minute.
We're just doing this whole album over."

370
00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:23,322
I remember asking, "Does William know?"

371
00:30:23,447 --> 00:30:26,997
William's still up in Seattle,
so he doesn't know what's going on

372
00:30:27,117 --> 00:30:28,710
and that this is happening.

373
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:34,209
And I'm stressing pretty hard because
that's gonna be a big problem.

374
00:30:34,333 --> 00:30:35,926
I was like, "What's going on?

375
00:30:36,043 --> 00:30:38,762
"Should I book a flight?
I should be down there."

376
00:30:38,879 --> 00:30:42,179
Dave calls me, like, "Don't come down here."
I was like, "Why?"

377
00:30:42,299 --> 00:30:47,180
He goes, "I'm redoing a couple of drum tracks."
I was like..."Whoa. OK."

378
00:30:47,304 --> 00:30:49,272
And I met with Nate.

379
00:30:50,390 --> 00:30:53,894
I said, "What's going on?
Dave's redoing a couple of the tracks?"

380
00:30:54,019 --> 00:30:55,737
He goes, "Is that what he told you?"

381
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,731
I said, "Yeah."
He goes, "He redid 'em all."

382
00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:02,111
The conversation
that I eventually had with William

383
00:31:02,236 --> 00:31:07,788
was that I really wanted him
to stay in the band,

384
00:31:07,908 --> 00:31:10,411
and I really wanted him to be the drummer...

385
00:31:11,286 --> 00:31:12,503
but...

386
00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:16,584
I was gonna play drums on the record.

387
00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:19,052
I don't know whether it was management,

388
00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:22,639
the record company, Gil,
all of the above, Dave,

389
00:31:22,756 --> 00:31:26,351
that wanted him to play drums
and didn't want me to play drums,

390
00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:32,976
but him redoing the drum parts
has never been explained to me.

391
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:34,852
It's a tough thing to talk about,

392
00:31:34,977 --> 00:31:39,403
because I know that William
will never forgive me

393
00:31:39,523 --> 00:31:41,525
for playing drums on that record.

394
00:31:41,650 --> 00:31:45,075
I know it.
And I wish things were different.

395
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,409
But I felt like this is what I had to do

396
00:31:49,533 --> 00:31:51,535
in order to make this album happen.

397
00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:56,131
We talked and Dave said,
"I still want you to tour the record."

398
00:31:56,248 --> 00:32:00,799
And I was just like,
"Dude, I mean, I have to, you know...

399
00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:03,092
"As it is now, I have to rebuild my soul,

400
00:32:03,213 --> 00:32:05,432
"or refind it, if you know what I mean.

401
00:32:05,549 --> 00:32:08,052
"If I do that, it's like, 'see ya'.

402
00:32:08,176 --> 00:32:11,100
"So...thanks but no thanks."

403
00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:17,816
It was a really weird time,
and I was young.

404
00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:20,735
What the fuck?

405
00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:34,912
I heard on the radio...

406
00:32:35,037 --> 00:32:38,416
"Foo Fighters drummer has left the band."

407
00:32:40,334 --> 00:32:42,007
I was like, "Whoa! Really?

408
00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:44,755
"I wonder if they have a drummer yet?"

409
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,976
I remember vividly my brother saying,
"You should be in this band."

410
00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:52,847
I was like, "Well, fuck, yeah,
that'd be great, wouldn't it?

411
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:57,818
"I would love to have been in the Who,
Jane's Addiction and Led Zeppelin too."

412
00:33:06,109 --> 00:33:10,330
Around that time, Taylor Hawkins
was playing drums with Alanis Morissette.

413
00:33:10,447 --> 00:33:12,825
And she was blowing up.

414
00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:19,332
I'd seen him play before, and there's no
question the dude's a monster on the drums.

415
00:33:19,456 --> 00:33:24,633
It's funny, 'cause back there's Taylor
just fuckin' like... Just fuckin' killing it.

416
00:33:24,753 --> 00:33:25,720
Like, "Oh my God!"

417
00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:31,094
We all loved Taylor, but he was in a band,
the biggest band around at the time.

418
00:33:31,218 --> 00:33:34,472
We were kind of in a pinch.
We had just recorded this record,

419
00:33:34,596 --> 00:33:37,190
and we had to go out and start doing shit.

420
00:33:37,724 --> 00:33:41,649
So Dave calls him up, like,
"Hey, man, do you know any good drummers?"

421
00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:46,071
I was like, "Yeah. I'll be your fuckin' drummer!
Let me try out."

422
00:33:46,191 --> 00:33:50,412
I remember saying to Taylor, "You realize
we're not as big as Alanis Morissette?"

423
00:33:50,529 --> 00:33:53,499
I'm like, "I know, but I wanna be in a band.

424
00:33:53,615 --> 00:33:56,585
"I wanna be part of something like that."
So he said,

425
00:33:56,702 --> 00:34:02,459
"Well, if you try out, and if we jam and...
You have to be in the band."

426
00:34:02,582 --> 00:34:06,052
Dave called me like, "Remember Taylor?"
I'm like, "Oh yeah."

427
00:34:06,169 --> 00:34:12,051
He's like, "Yeah, I think he'd be the drummer."
And I reacted poorly to that.

428
00:34:12,175 --> 00:34:16,305
I was hanging out with Dave and
me and him were bouncing off the walls,

429
00:34:16,430 --> 00:34:20,185
and Nate was going, "Oh no,
not another one of these fuckin' guys.

430
00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:22,447
"I can't take two spazzes in one band."

431
00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:25,690
I didn't think our personalities were compatible.

432
00:34:25,814 --> 00:34:30,285
He's just this, like,
outgoing Southern California surfer dude.

433
00:34:30,402 --> 00:34:32,370
Say something' funny.

434
00:34:32,487 --> 00:34:34,364
I don't know anything funny.

435
00:34:34,489 --> 00:34:37,834
I just came from a different world.
I was like, "That guy...

436
00:34:37,951 --> 00:34:41,831
"He is not a guy I'm gonna be in a band with.
No way."

437
00:34:41,955 --> 00:34:43,923
It's like, "He's really good."

438
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,252
"OK'"

439
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:56,224
- I hear you got a new drummer?
- Got a new drummer.

440
00:34:56,344 --> 00:34:58,893
- From the Alanis Morissette band?
- That's right.

441
00:34:59,014 --> 00:35:02,939
His name's Taylor Hawkins, and...

442
00:35:03,059 --> 00:35:04,652
Is that his last name?

443
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:06,317
I think it is.

444
00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:08,782
- He's really new!
- We just met him.

445
00:35:21,912 --> 00:35:23,585
So now Taylor's in the band,

446
00:35:23,705 --> 00:35:26,049
and he comes in his first day of rehearsals,

447
00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:29,170
and Pat quits the band.

448
00:35:29,294 --> 00:35:31,046
Right then and there.

449
00:35:31,171 --> 00:35:35,927
Pat says, "Can I talk to you guys
for a second?" We said, "Yeah, sure."

450
00:35:36,051 --> 00:35:40,272
We walk outside and he goes,
"I gotta leave the band."

451
00:35:41,598 --> 00:35:44,397
I'm like, "What the fuck? Why?"

452
00:35:44,518 --> 00:35:48,068
I was just so sick of it.
I was just so sick of the whole thing.

453
00:35:48,188 --> 00:35:53,661
I didn't wanna go out on another...
you know, bazillion-show tour and...

454
00:35:53,777 --> 00:35:56,030
I just don't wanna do this anymore.

455
00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:58,202
When you join a band the first week,

456
00:35:58,323 --> 00:36:00,200
and one of the members decides...

457
00:36:00,325 --> 00:36:04,956
ever since you've been there, he's gonna quit,
you're like, "Obviously, it's me."

458
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,630
I was shocked. I was shocked.

459
00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:11,469
I begged him to stay in the band.

460
00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:15,261
And he said,
"No, man. I'm just not into it anymore."

461
00:36:15,382 --> 00:36:18,352
It was right when we were
about to go out and start our tour,

462
00:36:18,468 --> 00:36:20,391
like, "Here's these new songs."

463
00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:24,483
Pat quits, and so he's kinda got us in a bad...
in a bad spot.

464
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:28,570
I asked him to stay
until we could get someone to replace him.

465
00:36:28,687 --> 00:36:32,032
So we made a deal
that I would tour for six weeks,

466
00:36:32,148 --> 00:36:33,900
till the new guy was ready.

467
00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:37,370
But it stretched out to, I think,
six months maybe.

468
00:36:56,798 --> 00:36:59,096
So Pat has quit the band,
but he's still playing with us.

469
00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:02,596
That gives us some time
to integrate Franz Stahl,

470
00:37:02,721 --> 00:37:04,598
who became
the second guitar player in the band.

471
00:37:04,723 --> 00:37:08,273
I'd known Dave for years.
We grew up in the same city.

472
00:37:08,393 --> 00:37:13,194
He was in my first band,
this punk rock band called Scream.

473
00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:20,535
When I left Scream to join Nirvana,

474
00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:25,206
the one relationship that felt the most strained
was my relationship with Franz.

475
00:37:25,327 --> 00:37:29,377
I think that he resented me for leaving.

476
00:37:30,081 --> 00:37:33,676
It took a while, and then we reconciled
and we became friends again.

477
00:37:33,793 --> 00:37:37,798
That moment where Pat said,
"I don't wanna be in the band anymore,"

478
00:37:37,923 --> 00:37:40,551
I immediately thought,
"I'm gonna call Franz."

479
00:37:41,426 --> 00:37:43,929
I was on tour in Japan

480
00:37:44,054 --> 00:37:47,399
and I get the phone call from Dave

481
00:37:47,515 --> 00:37:52,021
and...he wants to know
if I'd like to join the Foo Fighters.

482
00:37:52,145 --> 00:37:55,194
There wasn't any sort of musical audition.
I just thought,

483
00:37:55,315 --> 00:37:58,285
"Franz, you wanna be in the Foo Fighters?"
He said, "Yes."

484
00:37:58,401 --> 00:38:02,247
And then the next day
I was on the roof of Radio City Music Hall.

485
00:38:02,364 --> 00:38:06,244
Please give a warm welcome to Foo Fighters!

486
00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:15,969
We were playing at the MTV Awards,
on top of the marquee,

487
00:38:16,086 --> 00:38:17,429
as kind of a warm-up act.

488
00:38:17,545 --> 00:38:22,016
And so I played the first song,
and then I quit.

489
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:24,556
And then Franz came up and he joined.

490
00:38:24,678 --> 00:38:26,806
It happened just so fast.

491
00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:31,686
And I was still jet-lagged from Japan.

492
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:36,566
Hello! The last song we played
was my last song with the band.

493
00:38:36,690 --> 00:38:41,366
I would like to introduce you to Franz Stahl,
who will be taking over.

494
00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:45,662
Thank you! Rock on, guys!
Foo Fighters!

495
00:38:48,493 --> 00:38:51,542
It was all very new to me,
because I was used to slumming it.

496
00:38:51,663 --> 00:38:55,213
Sleeping on people's floors,
just getting by, you know?

497
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:57,256
And this was a whole new level.

498
00:38:57,377 --> 00:39:01,052
When joined the Foo Fighters, it was like,
you know, you made it.

499
00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:05,848
You hit it, and you were getting
recognized for it. It was awesome.

500
00:39:10,056 --> 00:39:14,402
Once Franz joined the band, we did
what we always did, we went on the road.

501
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,272
We played as many places
and as many shows as we could,

502
00:39:17,397 --> 00:39:18,740
and it was starting to grow.

503
00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:21,201
Like, you could see there were 2,000 people,

504
00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:24,241
3,000 people, 4,000 people at gigs.

505
00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:27,491
We were no longer playing
the afternoon slot at the festival,

506
00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:29,913
we were playing the evening slot.

507
00:39:30,035 --> 00:39:32,504
And there was a song on the radio,
Everlong,

508
00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:35,715
and all of a sudden
there were videos on MTV,

509
00:39:35,832 --> 00:39:38,085
and it was happening to us,

510
00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:41,088
that thing that happens to new bands
when they start to get popular.

511
00:39:54,309 --> 00:39:56,186
We got Franz.

512
00:39:56,311 --> 00:39:57,437
I indoctrinated myself.

513
00:39:57,562 --> 00:39:59,781
That's right. Franz joined the band on-air...

514
00:39:59,898 --> 00:40:01,491
That was a great big surprise.

515
00:40:01,608 --> 00:40:04,327
It was awesome.
It's the best year we've had as a band,

516
00:40:04,444 --> 00:40:07,163
and Franz is, you know...
he's the dude.

517
00:40:12,577 --> 00:40:14,045
I loved the first two records.

518
00:40:14,162 --> 00:40:18,542
And there wasn't a song
that I didn't enjoy, you know?

519
00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:24,139
And I certainly was looking forward to writing,

520
00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:26,599
and...you know, leaving my mark.

521
00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:32,472
Franz is a great guy.
And a sweet guy.

522
00:40:32,597 --> 00:40:35,692
And I was actually...
got really close with him.

523
00:40:35,809 --> 00:40:37,777
It seemed like it would be perfect.

524
00:40:38,812 --> 00:40:42,567
We were rehearsing and writing
at the time,

525
00:40:42,690 --> 00:40:47,161
and coming up with song ideas...
and Taylor and Nate and I

526
00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:50,703
seemed to have this thing
where we were on the same page,

527
00:40:50,824 --> 00:40:55,250
and we were jamming
and coming up with something together.

528
00:40:55,954 --> 00:41:00,835
And Franz just didn't seem to
find his place in all of that.

529
00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:04,088
In Scream, I wrote all the music,
the majority of it.

530
00:41:04,212 --> 00:41:06,306
My brother would write the lyrics.

531
00:41:06,422 --> 00:41:09,221
So I was always,
I was very hands-on, you know?

532
00:41:09,342 --> 00:41:11,390
But it was Dave's band.

533
00:41:11,511 --> 00:41:13,263
And he writes all the music.

534
00:41:13,388 --> 00:41:16,062
I was kinda leery
of pushing my ideas, you know,

535
00:41:16,182 --> 00:41:20,983
so I wasn't trying to be
as vocal about it.

536
00:41:22,147 --> 00:41:27,324
For some reason,
the four of us together wasn't right.

537
00:41:27,443 --> 00:41:32,370
It never congealed into feeling like a band.
It's just chemistry.

538
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,539
We had a talk with Dave about it
and he didn't wanna hear it,

539
00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:37,628
but he knew what the situation was.

540
00:41:37,745 --> 00:41:42,672
My relationship with Franz was
much different than everybody else's.

541
00:41:42,792 --> 00:41:45,716
I'd known the guy since I was 18.

542
00:41:45,837 --> 00:41:49,467
And we had out our teeth together.

543
00:41:50,216 --> 00:41:53,470
It was tough, man.
I mean, honestly, like...

544
00:41:53,595 --> 00:41:56,565
It was just, you know,
a great old friend of mine that,

545
00:41:56,681 --> 00:42:00,527
unfortunately,
I was asking to leave the band.

546
00:42:00,643 --> 00:42:03,567
That's not to say he's
not a fucking great musician,

547
00:42:03,688 --> 00:42:06,282
because, of course, everybody knows he is,

548
00:42:06,399 --> 00:42:11,246
but when we worked together as four people...

549
00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:13,751
it just didn't gel, you know?

550
00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:17,952
We got on some kind of conference call

551
00:42:18,077 --> 00:42:21,251
and told him we were
gonna get a different guitar player.

552
00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:24,717
There was a lot of sadness and drama.
It was ugly.

553
00:42:24,834 --> 00:42:26,882
Basically, I got a phone call.

554
00:42:29,172 --> 00:42:31,049
I got a fucking phone call.

555
00:42:32,383 --> 00:42:34,727
And it just all ends right there.

556
00:42:36,221 --> 00:42:39,441
I don't even know how to react,
you know?

557
00:42:39,557 --> 00:42:43,107
There's just no nice way of saying,
"You're out of the band."

558
00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:50,364
I'm not exactly sure what happened.

559
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,288
You know, I was in the band...

560
00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:57,033
and, for whatever reason,
I was out of the band.

561
00:42:57,617 --> 00:43:03,499
But, I mean, it was the best two years
of my life, you know?

562
00:43:04,624 --> 00:43:07,002
Most bands go through the same shit

563
00:43:07,126 --> 00:43:11,347
that we had been through
up until that point.

564
00:43:11,464 --> 00:43:13,512
Before anybody's ever heard of them.

565
00:43:13,633 --> 00:43:19,231
Unfortunately, we went through all of
those embarrassing growing pains in public.

566
00:43:21,140 --> 00:43:24,360
By '1998, I would sit down
to do an interview, and peopled say,

567
00:43:24,477 --> 00:43:27,481
"OK, so fuckin'...
Who's in the band right now?

568
00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:30,575
"Has anybody else left
in the last month and a half?"

569
00:43:30,692 --> 00:43:32,535
But there was always Nate.

570
00:43:35,446 --> 00:43:37,710
I was staying at my mother's house,

571
00:43:37,824 --> 00:43:39,792
and I got a call from Nate.

572
00:43:42,662 --> 00:43:46,508
I said, "What's up, man?"
He goes, "I gotta leave the band."

573
00:43:46,624 --> 00:43:49,673
And I just thought,
"Oh, Jesus fucking Christ."

574
00:43:49,794 --> 00:43:51,171
I said, "OK."

575
00:43:51,296 --> 00:43:52,673
At this point...

576
00:43:52,797 --> 00:43:56,768
my response to a member leaving
was like, "All right, why?"

577
00:44:00,013 --> 00:44:02,266
Sunny Day Real Estate
had gotten back together.

578
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:05,189
I had a lot of really formative
experiences with them,

579
00:44:05,310 --> 00:44:07,153
so I had this like...

580
00:44:07,854 --> 00:44:11,700
high-school crush, kind of irrational...

581
00:44:11,816 --> 00:44:14,911
attraction to that project.

582
00:44:16,696 --> 00:44:19,540
And I was tortured, and I called up Dave.

583
00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:21,500
And I was fuckin' pissed.

584
00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:25,793
I think I told him, "OK, you know what?
Call everyone and tell 'em you quit.

585
00:44:25,913 --> 00:44:27,915
"I'm gonna go fuckin' get drunk."

586
00:44:28,041 --> 00:44:31,045
As soon as I got off the phone,
I knew it was the wrong thing to do,

587
00:44:31,169 --> 00:44:33,922
that I was gonna be happier in Foo Fighters.

588
00:44:34,047 --> 00:44:36,095
It was a better thing for me to do.

589
00:44:36,215 --> 00:44:39,719
I called a couple friends...
"l quit the band and I feel weird about it."

590
00:44:39,844 --> 00:44:41,437
"Yeah, 'cause that was a dumb idea."

591
00:44:41,554 --> 00:44:45,184
Me and my buddy Jimmy
took my rental car out to Ribsters,

592
00:44:46,267 --> 00:44:50,738
we got fuckin' shitfaced,
rallied my rental car,

593
00:44:50,855 --> 00:44:53,734
fuckin' threw rocks at it all night,
busted out windows,

594
00:44:53,858 --> 00:44:57,408
drove over people's lawns,
and I wound up stumbling home

595
00:44:57,528 --> 00:45:02,455
and woke up at seven in the morning
in the bedroom that I grew up in as a kid,

596
00:45:02,575 --> 00:45:05,704
with my mom saying,
"David, Nate's on the phone!"

597
00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:09,628
I called him the next morning at 6 am.

598
00:45:09,749 --> 00:45:12,252
I was wigged out
and I think it caught him off guard.

599
00:45:12,377 --> 00:45:15,256
"I don't really wanna quit the band.
I don't know what I was thinking."

600
00:45:15,380 --> 00:45:17,007
He's like, "Good."

601
00:45:17,131 --> 00:45:21,978
I was like, "Yeah.
This is better. Sorry about that."

602
00:45:22,095 --> 00:45:24,814
I was still wasted, too.
I was just lying in bed, like,

603
00:45:24,931 --> 00:45:28,060
"I love you, man.
I'm glad you don't wanna quit."

604
00:45:34,982 --> 00:45:39,738
So we decided that we're gonna make
this next record as a three-piece.

605
00:45:43,574 --> 00:45:46,498
We had just made
this super hyper-produced record,

606
00:45:46,619 --> 00:45:48,792
which we slaved over
and lost two band members.

607
00:45:48,913 --> 00:45:53,419
I thought, "I'm gonna buy a house in Virginia,
build a studio in the basement,

608
00:45:53,543 --> 00:45:57,013
"and we're gonna make this record
without any fuckin' record company

609
00:45:57,130 --> 00:46:00,100
"and no pressure,
and no one telling us what to do."

610
00:46:07,682 --> 00:46:10,231
It was different,
just having the three of us there,

611
00:46:10,351 --> 00:46:13,275
we were starting to form
a good identity for the band.

612
00:46:26,409 --> 00:46:31,290
That's when Dave was first starting to become
more comfortable as a lyric writer.

613
00:46:44,260 --> 00:46:48,185
A song like Ain't It The Life,
without realizing what I was doing,

614
00:46:48,306 --> 00:46:53,654
I was kind of making this wish list
of all the things in life I wish I had.

615
00:47:03,821 --> 00:47:06,244
We weren't really on a major deadline,

616
00:47:06,365 --> 00:47:10,871
our friend Adam Kasper was down there
engineering and co-producing.

617
00:47:13,998 --> 00:47:16,672
I did all of those vocals sitting on a couch.

618
00:47:16,792 --> 00:47:19,545
It was just a laid-back record, and you hear it.

619
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:22,931
And the Grammy goes to...

620
00:47:23,049 --> 00:47:24,050
And the Grammy
goes to...

621
00:47:24,175 --> 00:47:25,722
Learn To Fly, Foo Fighters.

622
00:47:25,843 --> 00:47:28,722
There ls Nothing Left To Lose,
Foo Fighters.

623
00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:30,723
We won three Grammys for that record.

624
00:47:30,848 --> 00:47:33,067
I remember standing there
at the podium making the speech,

625
00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:36,438
looking out at all those people
in tuxedos and diamonds and shit,

626
00:47:36,562 --> 00:47:39,315
thinking, "I bet you this is
the only record made in a basement

627
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,192
"that's gonna win a Grammy this year."

628
00:47:41,317 --> 00:47:43,035
And I was so fuckin' proud.

629
00:47:43,152 --> 00:47:45,905
Take care,
thank you very much, everybody.

630
00:47:47,907 --> 00:47:52,208
Roll camera. OK, and roll sound.
Roll playback!

631
00:47:57,708 --> 00:48:00,962
We take our music really seriously,
but music videos?

632
00:48:01,087 --> 00:48:03,215
They're commercials.
They're candy commercials.

633
00:48:03,339 --> 00:48:06,889
So why not make fun of the process?

634
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:16,110
But once we got into it,
I started having fun with it.

635
00:48:16,227 --> 00:48:19,731
And it became a trademark for this band.

636
00:48:23,526 --> 00:48:25,779
We try not to take ourselves too seriously.

637
00:48:25,903 --> 00:48:28,952
In videos a lot of times,
you could easily get caught up in that,

638
00:48:29,073 --> 00:48:30,666
"We're playing on a mountaintop."

639
00:48:30,783 --> 00:48:33,081
The Wind's blowing in your hair,

640
00:48:33,202 --> 00:48:36,297
and then an eagle flies down
and lands on your shoulder.

641
00:48:36,414 --> 00:48:38,291
Or some, you know, like...

642
00:48:51,929 --> 00:48:55,024
I just think that's sort of
an outlet of our humor.

643
00:48:57,893 --> 00:49:02,319
I mean, I've seen Dave do stuff on videos,
where he's bein' such a fuckin' goofball.

644
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,783
I'm not as good at it.

645
00:49:15,411 --> 00:49:18,381
You know, I did try to make us a trio.

646
00:49:18,497 --> 00:49:21,000
Dude, Police! They're a trio!

647
00:49:21,125 --> 00:49:25,050
Musically, we needed more.
More guitar.

648
00:49:25,171 --> 00:49:29,802
Part of the sound of the Foo Fighters
is a lot of guitars. It's just part of the sound.

649
00:49:29,925 --> 00:49:31,893
We argue about it
every time we mix a record,

650
00:49:32,011 --> 00:49:34,605
'cause I always want the drums louder,
and Dave's like,

651
00:49:34,722 --> 00:49:36,975
"it's the Foo Fighters.
The guitars are really loud."

652
00:49:37,099 --> 00:49:39,693
None of us had the right guy that was a friend,

653
00:49:39,810 --> 00:49:42,074
or a friend of a friend...
It wasn't handy.

654
00:49:42,188 --> 00:49:44,907
So we had to have open auditions
for a guitar player.

655
00:49:45,024 --> 00:49:48,870
Pin a note at the Guitar Center, like,
"Guitar player wanted for Foo Fighters."

656
00:49:48,986 --> 00:49:50,863
We wound up in this rehearsal space,

657
00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:54,618
and I just remember
this line of guitar players.

658
00:49:54,742 --> 00:49:56,836
And I was terrified.

659
00:49:59,121 --> 00:50:02,716
It sounded great. I mean, I dig it.
Nice meeting you for the first time.

660
00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:05,302
Hopefully see you again soon.

661
00:50:05,419 --> 00:50:07,217
There's the guy that came in
and hugged everybody.

662
00:50:07,338 --> 00:50:11,764
It was like, "Hi. Hi."
It was like...

663
00:50:12,718 --> 00:50:15,688
There was one kid that came in,
he was so nervous.

664
00:50:15,805 --> 00:50:19,184
He came in, and was like, "What's up?
Will you sign something for me?"

665
00:50:19,308 --> 00:50:22,232
He just immediately wanted us
to sign some shit.

666
00:50:22,353 --> 00:50:26,153
We were like, "Yeah, dude, cool it.
It's cool, you know? Just relax.

667
00:50:26,273 --> 00:50:28,367
"Let's hang, you know? Let's talk."

668
00:50:29,276 --> 00:50:31,779
And we hung out and talked a little bit.

669
00:50:31,904 --> 00:50:35,579
And then he went to open up his guitar case,
and it was locked.

670
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:39,375
He had a brand new guitar,
a brand new case,

671
00:50:39,495 --> 00:50:42,920
and he fucking locked his guitar in it.

672
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,838
And didn't have a key.

673
00:50:47,753 --> 00:50:50,973
We literally did, like,
a week or two of tryouts.

674
00:50:51,090 --> 00:50:54,390
There was one point where it was getting
a little dire, we were like, "Fuck!"

675
00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:57,309
A good friend of mine called me and said,

676
00:50:57,430 --> 00:51:01,480
"Hey, I heard Guns N' Roses
are auditioning guitar players,

677
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,944
"and I think I could get you an audition."

678
00:51:04,061 --> 00:51:07,611
And I was like, "Well, I don't wanna audition
for Guns N' Roses."

679
00:51:07,732 --> 00:51:11,111
But I said, "But I heard the Foo Fighters
guitar player quit.

680
00:51:11,235 --> 00:51:13,863
"Try to get me an audition with Foo Fighters."

681
00:51:13,988 --> 00:51:15,786
Everyone, shake hands with Chris.

682
00:51:15,906 --> 00:51:16,907
Chris!

683
00:51:18,826 --> 00:51:21,796
When Chris came in to audition,

684
00:51:21,912 --> 00:51:25,007
we somehow came to the realization

685
00:51:25,124 --> 00:51:31,222
that we met when we were kids
at a punk rock show in Santa Barbara.

686
00:51:31,338 --> 00:51:33,432
Years and years before any of this,

687
00:51:33,549 --> 00:51:36,143
when Dave had been the drummer in Scream,

688
00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:38,809
and I was playing bass
in a band called Rat Pack.

689
00:51:38,929 --> 00:51:40,556
We actually opened up for them.

690
00:51:40,681 --> 00:51:45,061
The fact that he was a part of
that underground punk rock thing

691
00:51:45,186 --> 00:51:46,688
was really important to me.

692
00:51:56,238 --> 00:51:59,868
So we bonded pretty instantly,
because I thought

693
00:51:59,992 --> 00:52:05,544
"He's gonna get it. He's gonna understand,
and he won't take this shit for granted."

694
00:52:11,128 --> 00:52:12,801
Very good, that's very good, man.

695
00:52:18,511 --> 00:52:22,015
He could sing, and he was a shredder,
and he was a good guy,

696
00:52:22,139 --> 00:52:25,063
and he'd been in bands,

697
00:52:25,184 --> 00:52:28,154
and he didn't smell,
and he was awesome.

698
00:52:28,270 --> 00:52:31,615
So the next day, just all day,
I just sat there by the phone.

699
00:52:31,732 --> 00:52:34,406
And at like, around five or six,
the phone rang

700
00:52:34,527 --> 00:52:36,700
and it was Dave and Taylor.
And they said,

701
00:52:36,821 --> 00:52:40,917
"All right, you know, you got the gig.
We start rehearsing tomorrow.

702
00:52:41,033 --> 00:52:44,458
"Say goodbye to your friends, you're not
gonna see anybody for the next year."

703
00:52:44,578 --> 00:52:47,798
It was like, Chris joined the band
and we had our itinerary ready to go.

704
00:52:47,915 --> 00:52:50,589
"Ready? We're gonna leave for ten years.
Let's go."

705
00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:53,383
The Foos found their new best buddy
in Chris Shiflett,

706
00:52:53,504 --> 00:52:57,008
a former member of punk bands
No Use For A Name and 22 Jacks.

707
00:52:57,132 --> 00:52:59,806
I remember wanting
to help Chris feel comfortable.

708
00:52:59,927 --> 00:53:02,100
We went out to dinner a couple of times.

709
00:53:02,221 --> 00:53:05,851
Trying not to have a situation
where he comes in and it's like, "OK, go!"

710
00:53:05,975 --> 00:53:09,149
When I joined Nirvana,
I was the fifth drummer of Nirvana.

711
00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:12,649
With Chris, it was maybe the same way,
you know?

712
00:53:12,773 --> 00:53:15,151
He was the third guitar player
of the Foo Fighters.

713
00:53:15,276 --> 00:53:19,702
In the early days of being in the band
I didn't wanna step on anybody's toes.

714
00:53:19,822 --> 00:53:23,292
I didn't even know what...
I didn't know what my place was.

715
00:53:23,409 --> 00:53:28,131
And I was just genuinely, like,
this was everything that I ever wanted -

716
00:53:28,247 --> 00:53:29,624
the dream coming true.

717
00:53:36,046 --> 00:53:38,970
Every time Foo Fighters
would put out a record,

718
00:53:39,091 --> 00:53:42,721
I would get really excited
and miss it so bad.

719
00:53:47,016 --> 00:53:49,986
I found out after being in the band
for a couple months

720
00:53:50,102 --> 00:53:52,821
that they had almost replaced me with Pat.

721
00:53:52,938 --> 00:53:54,656
Pat almost came back,

722
00:53:54,773 --> 00:53:57,526
who they had a lot of history with,
and there was a relationship there.

723
00:53:57,651 --> 00:54:01,030
Dave didn't know that I knew that,
and probably most of them didn't.

724
00:54:01,155 --> 00:54:06,207
There was at least a couple times where
I called Dave and said, "I want back."

725
00:54:06,327 --> 00:54:09,206
Then when it looked like it might
actually happen, I got scared.

726
00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:12,925
After being in the band for a couple months,
I had this feeling,

727
00:54:13,042 --> 00:54:16,967
"This could all end,
and I'm gonna enjoy this while it lasts.

728
00:54:17,087 --> 00:54:20,591
"Because it probably will end
sooner than I want it to."

729
00:54:23,969 --> 00:54:28,440
That third record, we went on the road
with the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

730
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,444
For, like, four months
we toured America with them.

731
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,027
We had never played arenas before.

732
00:54:36,148 --> 00:54:38,651
We hadn't done that arena rock thing.

733
00:54:46,325 --> 00:54:49,704
That's when we started
coming up with jams onstage

734
00:54:49,828 --> 00:54:52,126
and working out, like, a show.

735
00:54:52,247 --> 00:54:55,171
Not a "show,"
not dancers and shit in the show,

736
00:54:55,292 --> 00:54:59,843
but really like kinda work out a good set.
So that it's impressive.

737
00:55:03,467 --> 00:55:05,720
Taylor really drove that home.
It was great.

738
00:55:05,844 --> 00:55:09,769
That changed the band, probably, forever
and made us concentrate more

739
00:55:09,890 --> 00:55:11,642
on really playing together.

740
00:55:11,767 --> 00:55:16,364
We had a stage setup
that we had built for the arena.

741
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,030
It was basically modeled after
the Queen Live Killers record cover,

742
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:21,413
it was very seventies.

743
00:55:21,527 --> 00:55:25,077
Hi. This is our dressing room,
where we get dressed before we play.

744
00:55:25,197 --> 00:55:27,370
And we had these little uniforms set.

745
00:55:27,491 --> 00:55:29,289
And we brought a wardrobe case

746
00:55:29,410 --> 00:55:33,836
Everything was red and black, or white.
That was our color theme for the tour.

747
00:55:33,956 --> 00:55:37,051
It was the first time we thought
in terms of something like,

748
00:55:37,167 --> 00:55:39,215
"Let's look a certain way on stage."

749
00:55:39,336 --> 00:55:41,759
I had the black shirt with white tie
and black pants.

750
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,974
Nate had the red shirt with black tie and...

751
00:55:44,091 --> 00:55:46,810
We looked like Kraftvverk
or something like that.

752
00:55:46,927 --> 00:55:48,850
We were... it was silly, really.

753
00:55:50,556 --> 00:55:54,402
But we put on this show,
and we fuckin' killed it.

754
00:55:59,523 --> 00:56:04,199
OK, we'll see you guys in a town near you,
I hope very soon.

755
00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:06,321
Take care and...

756
00:56:07,364 --> 00:56:08,536
I love you.

757
00:56:20,127 --> 00:56:24,758
It just stands to reason no matter how great
a thing that your life or your job is,

758
00:56:24,882 --> 00:56:27,101
after a while, you need a break.

759
00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:38,108
That was fun
until after two months of doing it.

760
00:56:38,228 --> 00:56:41,107
It feels like Groundhog Day,
all those arenas look the same.

761
00:56:41,231 --> 00:56:44,656
You start bringing the bottle of whisky
to the stage with you.

762
00:56:48,739 --> 00:56:52,539
It started with, "Let's do a shot
before we play." We'd call it "band prayer".

763
00:56:52,659 --> 00:56:56,914
Then that turned into like,
"Let's do ten shots before we play."

764
00:56:59,750 --> 00:57:03,380
And we all started gettin' fuckin' hammered
before we went onstage.

765
00:57:04,254 --> 00:57:06,757
And we got really shitty by the end.

766
00:57:09,384 --> 00:57:14,561
I think that's probably why so many musicians
wind up getting so fucked up,

767
00:57:14,681 --> 00:57:17,935
just 'cause you need something to keep it fun.

768
00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:23,023
Taylor had been struggling with...

769
00:57:23,774 --> 00:57:25,617
with drugs, I think.

770
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,658
He and I had talked about it a few times.

771
00:57:28,779 --> 00:57:33,410
I didn't really know how to deal
with the way you were supposed to be.

772
00:57:33,534 --> 00:57:39,416
I thought that to be a rock 'n' roller
you have to be the fuckin' Keith Richards.

773
00:57:39,540 --> 00:57:43,215
You have to be the dark, partying, fuckin'...
the real deal.

774
00:57:44,795 --> 00:57:48,174
That's the only way it's real rock 'n' roll.

775
00:57:49,007 --> 00:57:53,638
I would tell him, I'd say,
"You know, dude, I love you like a brother.

776
00:57:54,888 --> 00:57:57,812
"I'm not a cop. I'm not your dad, whatever.

777
00:57:57,933 --> 00:58:00,732
"But I'm worried about you, you know?"

778
00:58:06,525 --> 00:58:07,947
We were in London,

779
00:58:08,068 --> 00:58:11,447
and we all went out to a bar
across the street from the hotel.

780
00:58:11,572 --> 00:58:14,792
We were having a good time,
and I came back to my room early.

781
00:58:16,034 --> 00:58:21,040
And in the morning I got a call
that he was on his way to the hospital.

782
00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:26,462
We got word that Taylor's in a coma
at the hospital,

783
00:58:26,587 --> 00:58:29,181
and OD'd on, you know,
whatever it was.

784
00:58:29,298 --> 00:58:31,346
I think it was heroin that he did.

785
00:58:32,676 --> 00:58:38,228
And our sound man at the time,
he was like, "Oh yeah, Taylor fucked up.

786
00:58:38,348 --> 00:58:41,101
"He's gonna die, like, he's fuckin' dead."

787
00:58:44,563 --> 00:58:49,444
It was so weird, like, he hadn't died,
but he had overdosed.

788
00:58:50,527 --> 00:58:51,870
And...

789
00:58:53,530 --> 00:58:56,249
I just felt so totally helpless,
you know?

790
00:59:14,343 --> 00:59:16,141
What sort of things do you demand on tour?

791
00:59:16,261 --> 00:59:18,263
Instruments.

792
00:59:20,224 --> 00:59:22,318
So I sat with him...

793
00:59:22,434 --> 00:59:25,187
for those couple weeks.

794
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,448
Until he woke up.

795
00:59:28,565 --> 00:59:31,910
And when he woke up,

796
00:59:32,027 --> 00:59:34,871
I said to him,
"Dude, it's gonna be OK."

797
00:59:34,988 --> 00:59:37,992
And he looked at me and he said, "Fuck off!"

798
00:59:38,116 --> 00:59:41,871
And I thought,
"Oh, good, everything's gonna be OK."

799
00:59:41,995 --> 00:59:43,167
Dave's my best friend.

800
00:59:43,288 --> 00:59:47,634
And even more than a best friend,
he's like a brother. He really is.

801
00:59:47,751 --> 00:59:51,005
And, yeah, he was...
as I would be with him,

802
00:59:51,755 --> 00:59:55,976
if something happened to Dave
where he was on the brink of death,

803
00:59:56,093 --> 00:59:58,721
I would be losing my mind.

804
00:59:58,845 --> 01:00:00,768
And he was losing his mind.

805
01:00:05,143 --> 01:00:08,989
So we get back from London
after my fuckin' OD,

806
01:00:09,106 --> 01:00:13,486
and then two months after that,
we start trying to make this record.

807
01:00:13,610 --> 01:00:17,706
But we weren't ready.
And nobody's really into it.

808
01:00:18,282 --> 01:00:20,080
Everyone's playing half-assed.

809
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,999
I'd do something
and Dave would listen and say,

810
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,170
"This has gotta change. This is not working
with the vocals. That's too busy."

811
01:00:27,291 --> 01:00:30,170
I was disagreeing.
I had a shitty attitude 'cause I was pissed.

812
01:00:30,294 --> 01:00:33,343
It was bizarre.
It was my first record with the band.

813
01:00:33,463 --> 01:00:36,137
And I was just
showing up to the studio every day

814
01:00:36,258 --> 01:00:40,479
and was sort of confused, like,
"it's weird, I'm never playing on this.

815
01:00:40,595 --> 01:00:43,519
"I show up at noon every day
and I kinda sit here

816
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,611
"and I eat food and drink coffee
and then I go home.

817
01:00:47,728 --> 01:00:48,900
"What is this?"

818
01:00:49,021 --> 01:00:50,739
There's starting to...

819
01:00:50,856 --> 01:00:53,075
There's a little bit of infighting

820
01:00:53,191 --> 01:00:56,695
and whispers of, "Blah-blah's pissed
at blah-blah about wah-dah."

821
01:00:56,820 --> 01:00:59,198
And the vibes just were not happening.

822
01:00:59,323 --> 01:01:02,372
Dave's like, "I feel like you guys
are taking the band for granted.

823
01:01:02,492 --> 01:01:05,792
"It's just, show up, make a record,
and go on and do our thing.

824
01:01:05,912 --> 01:01:09,462
"There's no... You don't have
to show up with a passion for it."

825
01:01:09,583 --> 01:01:10,505
And he had a point.

826
01:01:10,625 --> 01:01:16,507
I would walk in,
listen to what we have, and think,

827
01:01:16,631 --> 01:01:20,135
"I don't really know
if I want anyone to hear this."

828
01:01:20,260 --> 01:01:23,389
The making of that record was a fuckin'...
lt sucked.

829
01:01:23,513 --> 01:01:25,390
We finished it, and...

830
01:01:25,515 --> 01:01:28,394
we gave it to our manager, John Silva,

831
01:01:28,518 --> 01:01:31,021
and he was like,
"Well, we could put this out,

832
01:01:31,146 --> 01:01:34,696
"but I don't know if we're gonna be able
to sell any of them."

833
01:01:43,033 --> 01:01:44,159
Immediately following that,

834
01:01:44,284 --> 01:01:46,833
Dave had done a record with
Queens of the Stone Age as their drummer,

835
01:01:46,953 --> 01:01:48,921
and went out and toured on that record.

836
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:50,837
And was like, "I'm gonna go do this.

837
01:01:50,957 --> 01:01:56,054
"We'll figure out what we're gonna do about
this record that didn't work later."

838
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,724
Dave's not happy with the record
and he wants to shelve it.

839
01:01:59,841 --> 01:02:02,560
And he's also gonna go on tour
with Queens of the Stone Age.

840
01:02:02,677 --> 01:02:06,272
And so it was kind of like,
"Whoa. He's doing what?

841
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:09,610
"You know, what are we doing again?
What did you say?"

842
01:02:14,689 --> 01:02:17,738
I just started to think that we should stop.

843
01:02:18,568 --> 01:02:20,411
"I don't have to be here,

844
01:02:20,529 --> 01:02:24,329
"and I really fuckin' love
doing this other thing, so...

845
01:02:25,492 --> 01:02:26,414
"fuck it"

846
01:02:26,535 --> 01:02:29,630
He went off with Queens,
and that went on for a little while.

847
01:02:29,746 --> 01:02:33,000
Then we got together to rehearse,
to go play Coachella.

848
01:02:33,125 --> 01:02:35,628
We were signed on to do this show,

849
01:02:35,752 --> 01:02:37,971
where Dave was playing with Queens
the day before,

850
01:02:38,088 --> 01:02:39,305
and then we were playing.

851
01:02:39,423 --> 01:02:40,891
There was so much tension.

852
01:02:41,007 --> 01:02:44,511
Nobody was talking, and we were
just rehearsing to get through these songs.

853
01:02:44,636 --> 01:02:47,059
God bless him, Chris at one point in time
in the rehearsal just goes,

854
01:02:47,180 --> 01:02:48,807
"I don't know if I'm the only one,

855
01:02:48,932 --> 01:02:51,481
"but you could cut the air in here
with a fuckin' knife.

856
01:02:51,601 --> 01:02:53,569
"What the fuck's goin' on?"
Then it was just on.

857
01:02:53,687 --> 01:02:57,988
We had this big fight,
one of the biggest arguments we've ever had.

858
01:02:58,108 --> 01:02:59,826
It was mostly between Taylor and Dave.

859
01:02:59,943 --> 01:03:03,413
They had it out, like this serious discussion.
Stuff that had been pent up.

860
01:03:03,530 --> 01:03:07,251
When I went to play drums with Queens
of the Stone Age, Taylor resented me for that.

861
01:03:07,367 --> 01:03:09,335
What bands are you listening to now?

862
01:03:09,453 --> 01:03:12,957
The new Queens of the Stone Age CD
is amazing, everybody knows that.

863
01:03:13,081 --> 01:03:15,550
He was really upset that
I didn't come see him play drums

864
01:03:15,667 --> 01:03:19,012
and how exciting it was
for him to be back onstage

865
01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:23,509
playing with another band.
I just went through this awful trauma,

866
01:03:23,633 --> 01:03:26,182
and I was supposed to be happy

867
01:03:26,303 --> 01:03:29,853
that Dave's having such a good time.
But I wasn't, you know?

868
01:03:29,973 --> 01:03:33,193
"I'm not fucking happy
for you to go play with another band.

869
01:03:33,310 --> 01:03:35,733
"Why should I be happy for that?"

870
01:03:35,854 --> 01:03:38,528
So Dave was trying to write
the set list for the show,

871
01:03:38,648 --> 01:03:40,571
and we had an argument about it, just,

872
01:03:40,692 --> 01:03:44,071
"You're a fuckin' asshole."
"if you don't like it, you can leave!"

873
01:03:44,196 --> 01:03:48,076
And the next day, I said,
"I will be leaving. As soon as we finish this.

874
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,874
"As soon as we play Coachella
and finish this record,

875
01:03:50,994 --> 01:03:53,247
"do whatever commitments we have,
I'm out of here."

876
01:03:53,371 --> 01:03:56,045
"Look, let's go and do this show,

877
01:03:56,166 --> 01:03:58,794
"and if we never wanna do it again,
then let's not."

878
01:03:58,919 --> 01:04:02,719
"The Foo Fighters are over.
And I'm OK with that."

879
01:04:02,839 --> 01:04:06,514
"OK. That's it. Oh Well."

880
01:04:13,308 --> 01:04:15,151
I played two nights at that Coachella.

881
01:04:15,268 --> 01:04:19,068
One with the Foo Fighters,
and one with Queens of the Stone Age.

882
01:04:19,189 --> 01:04:23,695
And Taylor sat and watched Queens
of the Stone Age that night, at Coachella.

883
01:04:24,611 --> 01:04:27,285
At that point, I was OK with it.
I didn't care anymore.

884
01:04:27,405 --> 01:04:31,205
I was like, "Well, this is probably
our last show, so, you know,

885
01:04:31,326 --> 01:04:34,921
"maybe Dave will just end up being
Queens of the Stone Age drummer for now

886
01:04:35,038 --> 01:04:37,461
"or whatever,
and that'll be what it is."

887
01:04:39,668 --> 01:04:42,217
And then we played the next day
and we played great.

888
01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:52,765
Dave was like, a new front man
in front of 10,000, 20,000 people,

889
01:04:52,889 --> 01:04:54,857
however big that fuckin' thing is.

890
01:04:57,394 --> 01:05:00,648
It was really good.
After that, me and Dave went for a walk.

891
01:05:00,772 --> 01:05:05,869
And he said, "Let's go back to Virginia,
record a couple songs."

892
01:05:05,986 --> 01:05:11,459
We made a plan to meet and just jam,
see what happens.

893
01:05:11,575 --> 01:05:14,749
I said, "I have this new song.
It's called Times Like These."

894
01:05:27,424 --> 01:05:29,142
Times Like These was basically written

895
01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:32,479
about the band disappearing
for those two or three months.

896
01:05:32,596 --> 01:05:37,193
And me feeling like I wasn't entirely myself.

897
01:05:52,532 --> 01:05:56,002
I just thought,
"OK. I'm not done being in the band.

898
01:05:56,119 --> 01:05:58,417
"I don't know if they are, but I'm not."

899
01:05:59,664 --> 01:06:03,259
It wasn't too long before Dave was excited
to get back to work on the record.

900
01:06:03,376 --> 01:06:05,470
We just started picking all the songs

901
01:06:05,587 --> 01:06:08,010
and going, "Let's re-record that.
We have a week."

902
01:06:08,131 --> 01:06:11,886
And we re-recorded the album
in seven days in my basement.

903
01:06:15,805 --> 01:06:18,729
It was all finished really quickly,
and it had the passion,

904
01:06:18,850 --> 01:06:22,821
it had the feel and sound that was like...
a record we could be proud of.

905
01:06:22,937 --> 01:06:28,159
I remember that being like, the turning point.
Like, "OK, this isn't ending."

906
01:06:32,489 --> 01:06:35,584
We had already spent
three months and a million dollars

907
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:38,089
on something that we threw away.

908
01:06:38,203 --> 01:06:43,881
The difference between
All My Life and All My Life

909
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:50,508
was that this one cost a million dollars
and sounded like crap.

910
01:06:50,632 --> 01:06:53,636
This one,
we did in my basement in half an hour

911
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,185
and became the biggest fuckin' song
the band ever had.

912
01:07:12,654 --> 01:07:15,703
It was a big record, you know?
Millions of people bought it.

913
01:07:15,824 --> 01:07:19,374
All My Life we just have to play
when we play gigs.

914
01:07:19,494 --> 01:07:22,373
To this day, that's by far
my favorite song to play live.

915
01:07:22,497 --> 01:07:25,091
Every night, good or bad show,
it doesn't matter,

916
01:07:25,208 --> 01:07:28,838
when you get to that part of the set,
it always goes bananas.

917
01:07:28,962 --> 01:07:32,182
If you're having a bad show,
that's the turning point every night.

918
01:07:42,392 --> 01:07:45,396
Ladies and gentlemen,
please welcome the Foo Fighters!

919
01:07:46,396 --> 01:07:48,945
Ladies and gentlemen, Foo Fighters.

920
01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:52,194
Please welcome back to the program,
Foo Fighters.

921
01:07:52,527 --> 01:07:53,744
Foo Fighters!

922
01:07:54,904 --> 01:07:56,998
Ladies and gentlemen, Foo Fighters!

923
01:08:16,217 --> 01:08:18,311
We barely got through making a record,

924
01:08:18,428 --> 01:08:21,102
and then started kinda
going up the ranks as a live band.

925
01:08:21,222 --> 01:08:23,850
We didn't have huge success
right up front.

926
01:08:23,975 --> 01:08:27,775
It's been little milestones of things
we've been asked to do and been able to do.

927
01:08:27,896 --> 01:08:30,649
It was a fun time.
We were doing these great tours,

928
01:08:30,774 --> 01:08:34,449
and the shows were getting bigger,
and we were on a good roll.

929
01:08:35,820 --> 01:08:39,040
We'd get asked to play on the MTV Awards,
and we'd show up,

930
01:08:39,157 --> 01:08:41,660
and we'd be
the only fuckin' rock band there.

931
01:08:41,785 --> 01:08:46,837
So it'd be like us and fuckin' boy bands,
girl bands, rappers, solo artists.

932
01:08:46,956 --> 01:08:49,345
After a while we got suspicious, like,

933
01:08:49,459 --> 01:08:53,464
"Wait a minute, do they know who we are
or do they just need a rock band?"

934
01:09:05,266 --> 01:09:06,529
Thank you.

935
01:09:19,072 --> 01:09:20,449
After One By One,

936
01:09:20,573 --> 01:09:24,828
I went home and started demoing
all this really delicate acoustic music.

937
01:09:27,997 --> 01:09:30,261
I thought, "Let's make an album

938
01:09:30,375 --> 01:09:35,006
"where you have one CD
that's all the really heavy rock shit,

939
01:09:35,129 --> 01:09:36,346
"then you have another CD

940
01:09:36,464 --> 01:09:40,890
"that's really beautiful
acoustic-based, lower dynamic stuff."

941
01:09:43,721 --> 01:09:46,816
And we'll tour for six or seven months
on the rock record,

942
01:09:46,933 --> 01:09:50,233
then go out on this theatre tour
doing the acoustic shows.

943
01:09:54,983 --> 01:09:58,203
Since the acoustic record
had additional instrumentation,

944
01:09:58,611 --> 01:10:01,000
I thought, "We need a bigger band."

945
01:10:01,698 --> 01:10:03,541
I always had in the back of my mind

946
01:10:03,658 --> 01:10:07,379
that someday I'll get to come
and play along with them.

947
01:10:08,872 --> 01:10:11,421
And in 2006, Dave called me and said,

948
01:10:11,541 --> 01:10:13,839
"Come out and do
this acoustic tour with me."

949
01:10:16,713 --> 01:10:18,260
I didn't actually know Pat,

950
01:10:18,381 --> 01:10:22,682
but I was aware that there'd been
a couple times through the years

951
01:10:22,802 --> 01:10:24,896
when Dave had almost brought him back.

952
01:10:25,013 --> 01:10:28,688
And so, to me, Pat was just a guy
that wanted my job.

953
01:10:28,808 --> 01:10:33,234
So when I found out about that, I was just like,
"You gotta be fuckin' kidding me."

954
01:10:36,232 --> 01:10:39,111
Pat is a Foo Fighter,
whether he's in the band or not.

955
01:10:39,235 --> 01:10:43,581
He and I have gone through a lot together.
Pat should be in the band.

956
01:10:44,282 --> 01:10:46,705
I definitely thought
it must be awkward for Chris.

957
01:10:46,826 --> 01:10:51,002
So I felt awkward only in that...
"l hope this isn't awkward for you."

958
01:11:00,715 --> 01:11:03,719
The first rehearsal, Pat showed up,

959
01:11:03,843 --> 01:11:06,596
and we actually instantly hit it off,
you know?

960
01:11:06,721 --> 01:11:10,442
I sorta got to be friends with him
over the course of doing those shows.

961
01:11:13,937 --> 01:11:17,942
Clive Davis came to see us play
at one of the acoustic gigs,

962
01:11:18,066 --> 01:11:21,570
and I said, "I think it'd be so cool
if we were that band

963
01:11:21,694 --> 01:11:25,870
"where we did the rock show and
we had all the people that love the rock show,

964
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:28,994
"and we did the acoustic show and had
all the people that love the acoustic show,

965
01:11:29,118 --> 01:11:31,667
"and they wouldn't necessarily
have to go to both."

966
01:11:31,788 --> 01:11:36,419
And Clive was like,
"Yes, but you can do both together."

967
01:11:36,542 --> 01:11:40,763
In a total Yoda moment.
I was like, "Oh my God, you're right!"

968
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,510
And that was the next album,
Echoes, Silence, Patience, & Grace.

969
01:11:44,634 --> 01:11:48,013
Those songs were basically just that.

970
01:11:48,137 --> 01:11:52,392
So that tour and that album before
totally shaped the one that happened after.

971
01:13:41,209 --> 01:13:46,261
We were at a point in our career where
we thought things couldn't get any bigger.

972
01:13:46,380 --> 01:13:49,475
We've headlined these festivals,
played these arenas.

973
01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:52,436
We're perfectly happy
with the way things are.

974
01:13:53,012 --> 01:13:56,937
And then John Silva said,
"You guys wanna play Wembley Stadium?"

975
01:13:57,475 --> 01:14:01,150
And I said, "Fuck.
OK, but wait, how big is that place?"

976
01:14:01,270 --> 01:14:05,320
When you do something like that
you put it on sale six months ahead of time

977
01:14:05,441 --> 01:14:08,160
because that's a lot of tickets -
85,000 people.

978
01:14:08,277 --> 01:14:10,996
You need six months
to get rid of all those tickets.

979
01:14:11,114 --> 01:14:14,835
And we sold it out.
I couldn't believe it.

980
01:14:14,951 --> 01:14:19,127
So we put another one on sale,
and it sold out in, like, a few days.

981
01:14:19,247 --> 01:14:23,218
When it sold out like it did,
I think everybody in the band was just like,

982
01:14:23,334 --> 01:14:24,927
"What the fuck'?
How did that happen?"

983
01:14:25,044 --> 01:14:27,718
It was this huge responsibility,
this great thing like,

984
01:14:27,839 --> 01:14:31,139
"All right. It's our turn now,
like, we have to make it great."

985
01:14:32,009 --> 01:14:34,888
It was six months
until we had to play the show.

986
01:14:35,513 --> 01:14:39,939
Every night before I went to sleep
for six months, I'd think,

987
01:14:40,059 --> 01:14:42,357
"My God,
I have to play fuckin' Wembley Stadium."

988
01:14:42,478 --> 01:14:45,357
Then I'd wake up in the morning,
like, "We're playing Wembley!"

989
01:15:00,496 --> 01:15:02,544
Wembley is so big,

990
01:15:02,665 --> 01:15:07,341
and it's like this sort of
monster bowl you're playing.

991
01:15:07,461 --> 01:15:11,557
It's just sort of the weight
and the responsibility I put on myself

992
01:15:11,674 --> 01:15:14,018
for a show like that, it's intense.

993
01:15:19,432 --> 01:15:22,686
I remember before the first show,
I was so nervous,

994
01:15:22,810 --> 01:15:26,405
and I somehow got hot sauce
in my eye backstage,

995
01:15:26,522 --> 01:15:27,648
right before we went on,

996
01:15:27,773 --> 01:15:31,994
I was just, "Why now?
Why did this have to happen now?"

997
01:15:32,111 --> 01:15:34,864
You don't just go,
"Yay, they asked us to do this thing

998
01:15:34,989 --> 01:15:38,619
"and we're gonna go and do our best
and see what happens."

999
01:15:38,743 --> 01:15:42,543
You wanna make sure it becomes
the most memorable show you've done.

1000
01:15:42,663 --> 01:15:45,166
And know that you killed it.

1001
01:15:52,381 --> 01:15:55,260
It was nerve-wracking,
because it's Wembley Stadium.

1002
01:15:55,384 --> 01:15:59,264
And if you've ever been there,
it's so fucking huge.

1003
01:15:59,388 --> 01:16:00,856
It's like an illusion.

1004
01:16:01,974 --> 01:16:06,400
How the fuck did this band
get this fuckin' big?

1005
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,739
Can you tell me that?

1006
01:16:55,152 --> 01:16:57,905
When you have 20,000 people

1007
01:16:58,030 --> 01:17:00,533
and there's nosebleeds
that are so far away,

1008
01:17:00,658 --> 01:17:04,379
you wanna be able to bring everybody in.

1009
01:17:04,495 --> 01:17:07,715
I want the people up there to feel
like they're right there.

1010
01:19:25,177 --> 01:19:28,477
You'd imagine that after playing something
like Wembley Stadium

1011
01:19:28,597 --> 01:19:32,227
and playing to 85,000 people,
"God, what do we do now?"

1012
01:19:32,351 --> 01:19:33,648
Yeah, it's good.

1013
01:19:33,769 --> 01:19:38,070
It's the same way with records, in a way.
This is our seventh record.

1014
01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:42,036
What could we possibly do that's different
than the last thing we had done?

1015
01:19:43,571 --> 01:19:47,246
And I thought, "Well...
I wanna do the next one in the garage."

1016
01:19:52,121 --> 01:19:56,171
It's about making records
the way we used to fucking make records.

1017
01:19:56,292 --> 01:19:58,966
But let's do it with Butch Vig
so it's fucking huge.

1018
01:20:03,174 --> 01:20:09,102
Butch Vig is probably most well known
for doing Nevermind, the Nirvana record.

1019
01:20:09,221 --> 01:20:11,974
But he's done
a ton of stuff through the years.

1020
01:20:12,099 --> 01:20:14,693
He did the last Green Day record
and he was in Garbage,

1021
01:20:14,810 --> 01:20:18,610
and he's been
a working producer for a long time.

1022
01:20:18,731 --> 01:20:22,531
Dave said, "I wanna make
the record in my garage."

1023
01:20:22,651 --> 01:20:27,532
And then he said, "What do you think
about making the record on tape?"

1024
01:20:28,866 --> 01:20:32,712
I wanna get away
from what people think we should do.

1025
01:20:34,497 --> 01:20:36,249
I learned how to make records on tape.

1026
01:20:36,373 --> 01:20:39,217
And there's something
about that process that I love,

1027
01:20:39,335 --> 01:20:43,715
but you can't fix things like
when you're working purely in a digital format.

1028
01:20:43,839 --> 01:20:46,228
That's the first thing I said to the band.

1029
01:20:46,342 --> 01:20:49,516
"If we're gonna do this on tape,
you guys have to play really well.

1030
01:20:49,637 --> 01:20:51,514
"Because nothing's gonna be fixed."

1031
01:20:54,517 --> 01:20:57,145
I think most people have an idea
of how records are made.

1032
01:20:57,269 --> 01:21:00,364
They're made on computers.
You can do whatever with computers,

1033
01:21:00,481 --> 01:21:02,575
but we all grew up
making records on tape.

1034
01:21:02,691 --> 01:21:05,444
It's got a certain sound.
It's got a certain set of limitations.

1035
01:21:05,569 --> 01:21:08,948
You can't go in and just go like,
"Well, that's close enough."

1036
01:21:09,073 --> 01:21:10,950
Wow, this is great!

1037
01:21:11,075 --> 01:21:13,169
Rock n' roll is imperfection and flaws

1038
01:21:13,285 --> 01:21:16,960
and four or five or six or eight people
playing together.

1039
01:21:17,081 --> 01:21:20,927
It's not gonna line up.
It's gonna be a little fucked up. It should be.

1040
01:21:21,043 --> 01:21:23,296
Human beings aren't perfect.

1041
01:21:23,420 --> 01:21:24,967
You wanna say hello?

1042
01:21:25,089 --> 01:21:26,932
Hi!

1043
01:21:27,049 --> 01:21:30,770
What was really different was the environment,
doing it at Dave's house.

1044
01:21:30,886 --> 01:21:34,607
Which is the most comfortable environment
you can imagine.

1045
01:21:34,723 --> 01:21:37,977
It's like...
It's just fun to be there anyways.

1046
01:21:38,102 --> 01:21:41,151
I think the atmosphere of where you're
recording has to come out on the record.

1047
01:21:41,272 --> 01:21:42,615
I don't see how it couldn't.

1048
01:21:42,731 --> 01:21:45,359
Look at this crew.
Look at the Hawkins!

1049
01:21:45,943 --> 01:21:47,991
What, are you kidding me?

1050
01:21:48,112 --> 01:21:49,989
The engineers and everybody
at one point were like,

1051
01:21:50,114 --> 01:21:52,788
"OK, we're gonna need this
and this and this.

1052
01:21:52,908 --> 01:21:55,457
"$700,000 worth of outboard gear."

1053
01:21:55,578 --> 01:21:59,583
And Dave's like, "No, no, no.
We're making a record in a garage!"

1054
01:22:06,755 --> 01:22:09,429
I love that we're about
to make an album at home.

1055
01:22:09,550 --> 01:22:13,225
I think the album's gonna sound like that.
I know it will.

1056
01:22:18,142 --> 01:22:20,645
If we need to have
three different drum sounds,

1057
01:22:20,769 --> 01:22:23,818
wouldn't it be cool to have them
crossfade into each other,

1058
01:22:23,939 --> 01:22:26,362
like as the other drum sound's
starting to come up

1059
01:22:26,483 --> 01:22:28,360
and the other one's going back?

1060
01:22:28,485 --> 01:22:31,830
Wouldn't it be cool
if we had a bucket of KFC right now?

1061
01:22:33,782 --> 01:22:36,501
So in recording,
it usually begins with Taylor and I.

1062
01:22:36,619 --> 01:22:39,247
The drums first, with the guitar,

1063
01:22:39,371 --> 01:22:44,252
and at first it's really to see
if Taylor and I

1064
01:22:44,376 --> 01:22:46,470
lock in with each other.

1065
01:23:00,017 --> 01:23:01,064
Did I miss my cue?

1066
01:23:01,185 --> 01:23:02,311
Yes, you did.

1067
01:23:02,436 --> 01:23:06,407
I go through a process,
sort of a self-loathing, "I suck" process

1068
01:23:06,523 --> 01:23:07,820
when I'm recording drums.

1069
01:23:07,941 --> 01:23:10,990
I tend to think
I'm the worst drummer in the world.

1070
01:23:11,820 --> 01:23:13,493
Fuck.

1071
01:23:13,614 --> 01:23:16,367
Sorry. I messed up the pattern a little bit.

1072
01:23:16,492 --> 01:23:17,539
OK.

1073
01:23:19,495 --> 01:23:22,089
When I go back and listen to the recording,

1074
01:23:22,206 --> 01:23:24,959
I'm like, "I'm all over the place."
It's not great.

1075
01:23:26,460 --> 01:23:28,303
Why? Why, God, why?

1076
01:23:28,420 --> 01:23:30,889
Sorry, I broke a drumstick!

1077
01:23:31,006 --> 01:23:34,761
Then it slowly evolves
and comes together after a couple hours,

1078
01:23:34,885 --> 01:23:37,138
and I have a drum track I'm really proud of.

1079
01:23:46,772 --> 01:23:48,774
The drums are finished.

1080
01:23:50,693 --> 01:23:53,742
I'm still not sure about These Days.
I could sit there and agonize all day

1081
01:23:53,862 --> 01:23:57,833
over one little snare hit or fuckin'...
the way a groove feels.

1082
01:23:57,950 --> 01:23:59,668
- And you will.
- And I will.

1083
01:23:59,785 --> 01:24:03,710
They'll play it on the radio and you'll go,
"Damn! That fuckin' snare hit!"

1084
01:24:03,831 --> 01:24:07,085
Maybe we should have just ProTooled
the fuck out of this record.

1085
01:24:07,209 --> 01:24:09,553
At least you know it's perfect.

1086
01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:45,289
When you're recording analogue like this,
knowing it can't be fixed

1087
01:24:45,414 --> 01:24:49,794
brings a factor to the way the band thinks
about how they're gonna play.

1088
01:24:49,918 --> 01:24:53,297
For instance, Nate,
before he would do his bass part,

1089
01:24:53,422 --> 01:24:55,424
would go out in the tent
and work out his part,

1090
01:24:55,549 --> 01:24:59,270
so when he came in to play,
he knew everything he was gonna do.

1091
01:25:30,626 --> 01:25:31,627
I think it sounds great.

1092
01:25:31,752 --> 01:25:32,674
It sounds awesome.

1093
01:25:32,795 --> 01:25:33,842
Yeah, it sounds awesome.

1094
01:26:09,122 --> 01:26:11,341
Is the bass or anything doing...

1095
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:15,633
ls the bass or anything doing
a note coming out of...

1096
01:26:17,506 --> 01:26:21,511
ls there anything like that?
Is that gonna, do you want one?

1097
01:26:28,016 --> 01:26:29,893
- You know what I mean?
- I'd maybe not do that.

1098
01:26:30,018 --> 01:26:31,235
Don't do that.

1099
01:26:33,438 --> 01:26:37,159
That was very non-confrontational.
"Maybe don't do that."

1100
01:26:37,276 --> 01:26:39,825
I would maybe not ever do that in the song.

1101
01:26:39,945 --> 01:26:42,539
I'm the guy that plays the rhythm
straight up the middle.

1102
01:26:42,656 --> 01:26:44,408
And then you have Chris,

1103
01:26:44,533 --> 01:26:48,834
and Chris has a really sharp and clean sense
of melodic playing.

1104
01:26:50,122 --> 01:26:51,419
Then over here, there's Pat.

1105
01:26:51,540 --> 01:26:54,544
And it's like...
when Pat puts on a guitar it just goes...

1106
01:27:05,596 --> 01:27:09,066
All of those things... If they're balanced
it sounds like the Foo Fighters.

1107
01:27:09,182 --> 01:27:11,105
Did we finally get too grungy?

1108
01:27:11,226 --> 01:27:16,278
It's never too grungy! I wonder if it's just,
you're losing, like, the notes.

1109
01:27:29,578 --> 01:27:33,253
We've had this expanded band now
for the last couple albums.

1110
01:27:47,304 --> 01:27:50,478
As a musician, it's a dream to be able to play
with as many people

1111
01:27:50,599 --> 01:27:52,601
and do as many different things as you can.

1112
01:27:53,602 --> 01:27:56,401
So where should we start?
What do you wanna start with?

1113
01:27:56,521 --> 01:27:59,149
We gotta get Bob fuckin' rockin' and rollin'.

1114
01:27:59,274 --> 01:28:00,526
What am I doing here?

1115
01:28:00,651 --> 01:28:04,656
I just learned the song, I got it in my head.
What do you want me to do?

1116
01:28:07,032 --> 01:28:12,209
When you meet someone that really helped
you become the musician that you are,

1117
01:28:12,329 --> 01:28:15,128
I really think it's important
to acknowledge that.

1118
01:28:29,012 --> 01:28:31,606
Bob's voice is so signature,

1119
01:28:31,723 --> 01:28:33,896
and to have him come to my fuckin' house

1120
01:28:34,017 --> 01:28:37,897
and do it on my fuckin' record
blows me away.

1121
01:28:38,021 --> 01:28:40,695
All right, cool.
You wanna do the bridge?

1122
01:28:40,816 --> 01:28:42,159
What do you wanna do, Bob?

1123
01:28:42,275 --> 01:28:43,663
Come on in.

1124
01:28:43,777 --> 01:28:46,200
I didn't write the middle section of the song,

1125
01:28:46,321 --> 01:28:50,417
because I wanted to write it with Bob,
while Bob was there.

1126
01:28:54,955 --> 01:28:58,050
But I didn't have the words,
so I sort of explained it,

1127
01:28:58,166 --> 01:29:01,386
and we tried it once just with phonetic crap.

1128
01:29:13,974 --> 01:29:15,191
Is that gonna make sense?

1129
01:29:15,308 --> 01:29:16,400
I think so.

1130
01:29:17,394 --> 01:29:19,692
OK, let me write something really quick.

1131
01:29:20,772 --> 01:29:22,820
OK, five-minute lyrics.

1132
01:29:22,941 --> 01:29:25,114
OK, give me a five-minute lyric break.

1133
01:29:25,235 --> 01:29:26,282
Clock's runnin'.

1134
01:29:33,201 --> 01:29:34,202
Dad?

1135
01:29:34,327 --> 01:29:35,294
Yeah?

1136
01:29:35,412 --> 01:29:37,255
Remember you said you'll swim?

1137
01:29:37,372 --> 01:29:40,842
I know, I have to write these words
really quick, so I can go sing it.

1138
01:29:40,959 --> 01:29:42,131
OK.

1139
01:29:45,380 --> 01:29:46,723
OK.

1140
01:29:51,011 --> 01:29:53,139
One, two, you know what to do...

1141
01:30:23,543 --> 01:30:24,590
That sounds so good!

1142
01:30:24,711 --> 01:30:29,888
That is so fucking cool, you guys!
You can hear, it's really good.

1143
01:30:30,008 --> 01:30:32,261
Some of the songs
still had question marks, you know,

1144
01:30:32,385 --> 01:30:35,229
the biggest song being
I Should Have Known.

1145
01:30:35,347 --> 01:30:37,896
That song became sort of the X factor
in the album.

1146
01:31:00,038 --> 01:31:01,164
Yep, that's cool.

1147
01:31:01,289 --> 01:31:02,461
Fuckin' A, right?

1148
01:31:49,004 --> 01:31:51,052
I kinda feel like I Should Have Known

1149
01:31:51,173 --> 01:31:56,054
is a song that's about Dave's past,

1150
01:31:56,178 --> 01:32:00,354
and I think there are definitely references
in there about Nirvana and Kurt.

1151
01:32:01,349 --> 01:32:03,226
Fuckin' A, man.

1152
01:32:03,351 --> 01:32:05,069
That's really good.

1153
01:32:05,187 --> 01:32:06,734
When I first started writing that song,

1154
01:32:06,855 --> 01:32:10,200
it was about someone else
that I was involved with,

1155
01:32:10,317 --> 01:32:12,365
and at the end of the day,
I said to myself,

1156
01:32:12,485 --> 01:32:15,705
"I should have known
that this was gonna happen."

1157
01:32:19,534 --> 01:32:20,581
But when I sing that song,

1158
01:32:20,702 --> 01:32:25,333
it's hard not to think about
all of the times in my life that's happened.

1159
01:32:34,716 --> 01:32:35,763
Hey, Krist!

1160
01:32:35,884 --> 01:32:37,136
Hello!

1161
01:32:38,345 --> 01:32:40,768
We had Krist Novoselic come in and play bass
on I Should Have Known.

1162
01:32:40,889 --> 01:32:42,732
That was a very special moment,

1163
01:32:42,849 --> 01:32:45,272
'cause I had not been in the same room
with Dave and Krist

1164
01:32:45,393 --> 01:32:47,236
since we finished Nevermind.

1165
01:32:55,070 --> 01:32:57,664
It does that back and forth twice,
then it does the turnaround chords.

1166
01:32:57,781 --> 01:33:01,786
Yeah, it goes, D sharp,
G, D sharp, G, F, C,

1167
01:33:01,910 --> 01:33:04,789
then it goes back in D sharp,
G, D sharp...

1168
01:33:04,913 --> 01:33:06,665
It's like a six chord.

1169
01:33:06,790 --> 01:33:08,133
So it goes...

1170
01:33:23,431 --> 01:33:24,398
How was the tone?

1171
01:33:24,516 --> 01:33:26,393
I think it fuckin' sounds gnarly.

1172
01:33:26,518 --> 01:33:29,271
There, it's done. Seriously.

1173
01:33:29,396 --> 01:33:30,773
That's all you get, motherfucker.

1174
01:33:30,897 --> 01:33:34,322
I was not surprised that Dave asked Krist
to play on the record.

1175
01:33:34,442 --> 01:33:39,494
I was surprised it hadn't happened
any other time in the last 16 years.

1176
01:33:39,614 --> 01:33:43,960
You never realize how important
the bass sound is to the sound of a band

1177
01:33:44,077 --> 01:33:47,502
until you put it in another band and go,
"Oh, there it is."

1178
01:34:04,055 --> 01:34:05,978
I think what Krist played on the song

1179
01:34:06,099 --> 01:34:10,479
was the absolute perfect thing for him to do
on a Foo Fighters record.

1180
01:34:25,076 --> 01:34:27,920
I think that might be the ending.
We've found it.

1181
01:34:29,664 --> 01:34:30,711
Yeah, sample my phone.

1182
01:34:30,832 --> 01:34:32,505
The ice cream truck.

1183
01:34:37,005 --> 01:34:40,009
It usually takes us a while to name an album.

1184
01:34:41,426 --> 01:34:43,929
But I decided to call the record
Wasting Light,

1185
01:34:44,054 --> 01:34:46,227
because I honestly feel like

1186
01:34:46,348 --> 01:34:51,149
I don't wanna let one minute of this go
without really feeling it.

1187
01:35:21,508 --> 01:35:25,263
The best way to prepare to playing
to 85,000 people

1188
01:35:25,387 --> 01:35:27,435
is to play at these small club gigs.

1189
01:35:27,555 --> 01:35:31,185
Because that's kind of a true test.
You go to see an arena rock band.

1190
01:35:31,309 --> 01:35:34,358
They're pretty good,
but would they be any good at the Roxy?

1191
01:35:49,744 --> 01:35:50,791
Hold the fuckin'...

1192
01:35:50,912 --> 01:35:52,585
Then bask in the glory for a minute.

1193
01:36:00,797 --> 01:36:06,600
Having Scream be the first band on the bill,
my heroes from my childhood,

1194
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:09,689
the band that
I dropped out of high school to join,

1195
01:36:09,806 --> 01:36:12,901
to see them sharing the stage
with my band Foo Fighters

1196
01:36:13,017 --> 01:36:15,816
was a really big deal to me.

1197
01:36:22,735 --> 01:36:24,078
Yeah, good night, y'all.

1198
01:36:24,195 --> 01:36:26,038
Thank you.

1199
01:36:45,842 --> 01:36:47,970
You guys wanna hear the new record?

1200
01:36:56,144 --> 01:36:58,112
The Foo Fighters
sound like the Foo Fighters

1201
01:36:58,229 --> 01:37:02,325
because it's me, and Taylor, and Nate,
and Chris, and Pat.

1202
01:37:02,442 --> 01:37:05,195
If it were anyone else, it would sound different.

1203
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,789
You never wanna lose anybody,

1204
01:37:07,906 --> 01:37:12,036
and you never wanna see someone
disappear out of your life,

1205
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:15,539
but we wouldn't be here
if it were different with William.

1206
01:37:15,663 --> 01:37:18,291
We wouldn't be here
if it were different with Franz.

1207
01:37:18,416 --> 01:37:22,216
I feel bad about the bad things,
I feel good about the good things,

1208
01:37:22,337 --> 01:37:24,510
but I wouldn't change a thing.

1209
01:38:00,250 --> 01:38:02,344
We've worked hard,
and we've made a great band.

1210
01:38:02,460 --> 01:38:04,713
I'm incapable of doing
almost anything else

1211
01:38:04,837 --> 01:38:06,931
at this point in time,
so this is what I do.

1212
01:38:07,048 --> 01:38:10,894
I'm an adult that plays in a rock band.
How about that?

1213
01:38:22,063 --> 01:38:24,111
I've had people say in interviews,

1214
01:38:24,232 --> 01:38:27,156
"So, Taylor,
what is it like to be a rock star?"

1215
01:38:27,277 --> 01:38:30,497
And I'm like, "Fuck you.
I'm not a rock star. I'm a musician."

1216
01:38:51,384 --> 01:38:53,603
It's a functional family,
you know what I mean?

1217
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,599
I go to work coming up here,

1218
01:38:56,723 --> 01:38:59,192
and I just fucking laugh all day
and play great music.

1219
01:39:23,207 --> 01:39:25,926
There will probably always, to some extent,
be that feeling,

1220
01:39:26,044 --> 01:39:29,298
"This could all end tomorrow.
Who the fuck knows, you know?"

1221
01:39:29,422 --> 01:39:31,265
We're all pretty lucky that we get to do this

1222
01:39:31,382 --> 01:39:34,261
and we have to enjoy it while it's here
and make the most of it.

1223
01:39:51,277 --> 01:39:57,284
It's a crazy feeling when something goes
from a spark of imagination

1224
01:39:57,408 --> 01:39:59,797
to something you can hold in your hands.

1225
01:39:59,911 --> 01:40:01,834
That first cassette...

1226
01:40:03,122 --> 01:40:06,296
made in five fuckin' days or whatever,

1227
01:40:06,417 --> 01:40:12,174
and here we are. It's just like,
"Whoa. How the fuck did this happen?"

1228
01:40:46,541 --> 01:40:48,589
Honestly, had I taken
this whole career thing seriously,

1229
01:40:48,710 --> 01:40:49,927
I would've named it something else,

1230
01:40:50,044 --> 01:40:52,342
'cause it's the worst fuckin' band name
in the world!