1 00:00:00,934 --> 00:00:02,368 [Kody] Previously on Sister Wives... 2 00:00:02,769 --> 00:00:04,069 Tell me more, Christine, 3 00:00:04,071 --> 00:00:06,638 about this feeling, about moving to Utah. 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,974 No, this is not a safe conversation anymore. 5 00:00:08,976 --> 00:00:12,544 I'm sorry. It's just not... I'm not going to talk to you. 6 00:00:16,883 --> 00:00:18,150 It feels like a bit of a crossroads. 7 00:00:18,152 --> 00:00:19,618 I don't know what to do. 8 00:00:21,121 --> 00:00:24,757 You can go, be in Utah, do your thing. I don't care. 9 00:00:24,759 --> 00:00:28,260 [Kody] I've had three of these four women threaten to leave me 10 00:00:28,262 --> 00:00:30,329 for a significant part of the marriages. 11 00:00:30,331 --> 00:00:33,365 It's not a new thing to be threatened to be left. 12 00:00:34,067 --> 00:00:36,135 [Kody] The lot that would have the pond 13 00:00:36,137 --> 00:00:37,736 would most likely be my lot. 14 00:00:37,738 --> 00:00:39,238 You guys all good with that so far? 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,107 [Meri] I guess, it really depends on where everybody wants to be. 16 00:00:42,109 --> 00:00:45,044 I was loving the idea of a house right there, 17 00:00:45,046 --> 00:00:47,079 but it sounds like that's not happening anymore. 18 00:00:47,081 --> 00:00:50,749 So apparently, there is no me in polygamy. 19 00:00:50,751 --> 00:00:54,319 It's the only configuration I can manage to go. 20 00:00:54,321 --> 00:00:56,121 - This works. - I think it's stupid. 21 00:00:56,123 --> 00:00:57,956 Kody talking about having his own house. 22 00:00:57,958 --> 00:00:59,458 I'm like, what a waste of money. 23 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:31,924 It is late summer and because of COVID, 24 00:01:31,926 --> 00:01:34,193 our children have been out of school 25 00:01:34,195 --> 00:01:36,128 for over five months. 26 00:01:36,130 --> 00:01:37,629 We're supposed to be locked down 27 00:01:37,631 --> 00:01:39,231 sort of quarantining that kind of thing. 28 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:40,632 But I've got three wives, 29 00:01:40,634 --> 00:01:41,934 they're going to be out of town 30 00:01:41,936 --> 00:01:43,769 all the same time doing other things. 31 00:01:43,771 --> 00:01:46,038 Life has to go on. 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,874 But it's separated all of us from each other 33 00:01:48,876 --> 00:01:54,446 as we sort of take different approaches to COVID-19 34 00:01:54,448 --> 00:01:57,015 and how to behave regarding it. 35 00:01:57,017 --> 00:01:59,218 We're just not in the same place anymore. 36 00:02:07,093 --> 00:02:11,230 We are leaving today to go to New Jersey. 37 00:02:12,098 --> 00:02:14,099 For Ysabel's scoliosis surgery. 38 00:02:14,101 --> 00:02:16,001 We found out she had scoliosis 39 00:02:16,003 --> 00:02:17,870 when she was in middle school, like 13. 40 00:02:17,872 --> 00:02:20,005 She's 17 now, 41 00:02:20,007 --> 00:02:21,974 and we've just been fighting it for years. 42 00:02:21,976 --> 00:02:24,877 We put her doing exercises and all this stuff. 43 00:02:24,879 --> 00:02:27,079 She was in the brace, the daytime brace, 44 00:02:27,081 --> 00:02:28,180 the nighttime brace. 45 00:02:28,182 --> 00:02:30,215 We've tried everything. 46 00:02:30,217 --> 00:02:31,283 Izzy? 47 00:02:31,918 --> 00:02:33,118 You ready to go, baby? 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,753 All right. So we're ready to go. 49 00:02:34,755 --> 00:02:36,855 We're gonna start loading up stuff into the car. 50 00:02:36,857 --> 00:02:38,190 When we found Ysabel had scoliosis, 51 00:02:38,192 --> 00:02:40,125 there was a 26-degree curve 52 00:02:40,127 --> 00:02:42,728 and now it's way above a 50-degree curve 53 00:02:42,730 --> 00:02:44,596 and at the 50 degrees is where they say, 54 00:02:44,598 --> 00:02:46,665 okay, it's time for you to get the surgery. 55 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:49,868 She's been in awful pain for nine months. 56 00:02:49,870 --> 00:02:52,137 Finally, here we are. We're going to get the surgery, 57 00:02:52,139 --> 00:02:55,107 and we're super excited. 58 00:02:55,109 --> 00:02:58,810 We're gonna do a visual of how we are gonna be safe at the airport today. 59 00:02:58,812 --> 00:03:01,613 Yes, there we go. That's what we're doing today. 60 00:03:01,615 --> 00:03:04,850 We haven't been able to see each other a lot at all 61 00:03:04,852 --> 00:03:06,752 during this pandemic. 62 00:03:06,754 --> 00:03:09,588 Of course, I wouldn't want to quarantine from Kody that long. 63 00:03:09,590 --> 00:03:12,291 But you know, if I had to, I would. 64 00:03:12,293 --> 00:03:14,226 [Christine] All right, we're ready to go. Let's load up the car. 65 00:03:14,228 --> 00:03:15,594 Heck yeah. 66 00:03:15,596 --> 00:03:17,696 I'm not traveling with Christine and Ysabel 67 00:03:17,698 --> 00:03:19,064 on the way to Ysabel's surgery. 68 00:03:19,066 --> 00:03:21,266 I'm not going to the surgery. I think it's very risky. 69 00:03:21,268 --> 00:03:23,902 I also feel like a total hypocrite 70 00:03:23,904 --> 00:03:27,072 if I'm not keeping the rules that I'm asking and begging, 71 00:03:27,074 --> 00:03:29,441 literally begging everybody to keep. 72 00:03:30,843 --> 00:03:33,879 [Ysabel] I'm a little nervous for the surgery in a couple of days. 73 00:03:33,881 --> 00:03:36,014 Um, we'll go there and then after two weeks 74 00:03:36,016 --> 00:03:37,182 I'll get the surgery. 75 00:03:37,184 --> 00:03:39,918 But I am really nervous for the surgery. 76 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,153 [Christine] So, Izzy, you excited for this? 77 00:03:41,155 --> 00:03:42,354 Uh, yeah, I'm really excited. 78 00:03:42,356 --> 00:03:45,257 I'm a little bit stressed out because this morning was so, 79 00:03:45,259 --> 00:03:49,027 like stressful, because I had classes that I had to attend. 80 00:03:49,029 --> 00:03:51,330 I mean honestly, it's Ysabel that I care about more. 81 00:03:51,332 --> 00:03:53,966 I think Ysabel, is really going to have a hard time 82 00:03:53,968 --> 00:03:56,235 being without Kody because she really, 83 00:03:56,237 --> 00:03:58,503 really relies on him when she's in pain. 84 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:01,940 [Christine] All right, let's go, lovelies. 85 00:04:03,076 --> 00:04:05,177 I think his priorities are a little screwed up. 86 00:04:05,778 --> 00:04:06,912 But, 87 00:04:06,914 --> 00:04:08,313 and like I don't really like, 88 00:04:09,349 --> 00:04:12,985 like disrespect him, because he is my dad. 89 00:04:12,987 --> 00:04:17,022 And I understand, I do. I do understand why he's doing it. 90 00:04:17,024 --> 00:04:19,858 It's just really frustrating 91 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:21,126 and really, really hard. 92 00:04:26,866 --> 00:04:29,034 You can't do that, Axel. 93 00:04:30,903 --> 00:04:34,172 [Janelle] So while Christine, was going to be in New Jersey for Ysabel surgery, 94 00:04:34,174 --> 00:04:36,642 I went to help Maddie with her daughter, Evie K, 95 00:04:36,644 --> 00:04:38,610 who was having surgery as well. 96 00:04:38,612 --> 00:04:40,212 How is Evie K? 97 00:04:41,948 --> 00:04:45,617 Evie was born with a collection of conditions, 98 00:04:45,619 --> 00:04:47,152 they call FATCO. 99 00:04:47,154 --> 00:04:49,021 She's just missing a few bones. 100 00:04:49,023 --> 00:04:51,490 She has some fingers missing 101 00:04:51,492 --> 00:04:54,092 and one of her legs is considerably shorter. 102 00:04:54,927 --> 00:04:56,028 All right. 103 00:04:56,030 --> 00:04:57,162 All right, you ready? 104 00:04:57,630 --> 00:04:58,997 One, 105 00:04:58,999 --> 00:05:00,632 two, three. 106 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:02,034 This is your granddaughter. 107 00:05:02,036 --> 00:05:04,369 [Kody] Aw, look at that wide-eyed little baby. 108 00:05:05,204 --> 00:05:06,605 Evie K! 109 00:05:06,607 --> 00:05:08,674 [Janelle] Maddie and Caleb have been talking a lot 110 00:05:08,676 --> 00:05:11,610 to the pediatricians and the orthopedic surgeons 111 00:05:11,612 --> 00:05:14,079 and all the people who work with this kind of thing. 112 00:05:14,081 --> 00:05:16,948 They possibly have a choice. 113 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:21,687 In a lot of cases, they can lengthen the bone that's there. 114 00:05:21,689 --> 00:05:23,555 But, it's a lot of surgeries 115 00:05:23,557 --> 00:05:27,659 or they amputate and get ready for a prosthetic. 116 00:05:27,661 --> 00:05:31,763 So what it was gonna mean though was surgeries like every eight months 117 00:05:31,765 --> 00:05:33,131 and then at the end, there was no guarantee 118 00:05:33,133 --> 00:05:35,967 that she'd even really be able to walk on it. 119 00:05:35,969 --> 00:05:38,970 After long deliberation, Maddie and Caleb decided 120 00:05:38,972 --> 00:05:42,107 that they were going to opt for the amputation. 121 00:05:42,875 --> 00:05:46,445 Yeah, so the surgery is actually tomorrow. 122 00:05:46,447 --> 00:05:51,183 I'm not, I'm not particularly worried about it, unless I really think about it. 123 00:05:51,384 --> 00:05:52,417 So, I'm just 124 00:05:53,119 --> 00:05:54,619 staying positive about it. 125 00:06:11,003 --> 00:06:15,374 [Meri] Hey, girls, does this not flip around? 126 00:06:15,376 --> 00:06:17,409 Oh, my gosh, I don't know how to use it. 127 00:06:18,344 --> 00:06:19,511 Here I am. 128 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:23,081 So, this is kind of a weird summer, 129 00:06:23,083 --> 00:06:25,183 in the middle of this COVID pandemic. 130 00:06:25,185 --> 00:06:28,320 I personally have been, trying to just do like 131 00:06:28,322 --> 00:06:31,189 more of a quarantine and not going anywhere. 132 00:06:31,191 --> 00:06:34,025 You know Kody and I are at this place where, 133 00:06:34,027 --> 00:06:37,295 like, when we talk it's cordial, it's fine. 134 00:06:37,297 --> 00:06:39,965 I mean, I'd be more comfortable 135 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:42,367 if I saw him more often, 136 00:06:42,369 --> 00:06:44,269 we talked more often, but 137 00:06:44,271 --> 00:06:46,304 you know, it is what it is. 138 00:06:46,306 --> 00:06:49,808 Okay. I am super, super, super excited. 139 00:06:49,810 --> 00:06:51,977 So today, I am at 140 00:06:51,979 --> 00:06:54,513 Lizzie's Heritage Inn, my bed and breakfast. 141 00:06:54,515 --> 00:06:59,251 Today is the 150 year anniversary of the B&B. 142 00:06:59,253 --> 00:07:00,952 Say hello. 143 00:07:02,188 --> 00:07:03,621 I love you. 144 00:07:04,023 --> 00:07:07,325 Anyway, we're going to do something every month or every other month 145 00:07:07,794 --> 00:07:10,061 just to celebrate 150 years 146 00:07:10,063 --> 00:07:13,965 because this house has been around for 150 years now. 147 00:07:13,967 --> 00:07:17,135 Well, COVID hit, so we haven't been able to do that. 148 00:07:17,137 --> 00:07:19,805 You know, we've totally had to switch it up 149 00:07:19,807 --> 00:07:21,606 and make it all virtual, 150 00:07:21,608 --> 00:07:23,275 because people can't come. 151 00:07:24,911 --> 00:07:25,944 Here I come. 152 00:07:25,946 --> 00:07:27,412 I hope you're camera ready. 153 00:07:27,914 --> 00:07:29,314 Audrey! 154 00:07:29,316 --> 00:07:33,785 She's my social media extraordinaire person. 155 00:07:33,787 --> 00:07:35,620 - Okay. - [Audrey] Come here, Mom. 156 00:07:35,622 --> 00:07:39,024 I have something really exciting to announce today, you guys. 157 00:07:39,026 --> 00:07:40,959 Guess what today is, Audrey? 158 00:07:40,961 --> 00:07:44,729 It's our, one year to the wedding day... 159 00:07:44,731 --> 00:07:46,164 - anniversary. - [Meri whooping] 160 00:07:46,166 --> 00:07:49,234 Yeah, can you call it a one-year pre-versary? 161 00:07:49,236 --> 00:07:50,135 A pre-versary! 162 00:07:50,137 --> 00:07:51,603 [Meri] It's a pre-versary. 163 00:07:51,605 --> 00:07:54,940 Mariah and Audrey met 164 00:07:54,942 --> 00:07:57,809 while they were in college, and they've actually been engaged 165 00:07:57,811 --> 00:08:00,045 for a couple of years now, 166 00:08:00,047 --> 00:08:05,016 Mariah and Audrey are getting married in one year from today. 167 00:08:05,218 --> 00:08:07,152 [all cheering] 168 00:08:07,154 --> 00:08:08,854 Maybe we should plan a little bit. 169 00:08:08,856 --> 00:08:11,623 [Meri] Maybe go ahead and let me know when you do 170 00:08:11,625 --> 00:08:13,258 because I'm totally good. 171 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:14,326 I want to be involved. 172 00:08:14,328 --> 00:08:17,996 Let's talk about it. I don't want to be pushy. 173 00:08:17,998 --> 00:08:20,732 But if this is, you know, happening in a year, 174 00:08:20,734 --> 00:08:24,803 we should at least kind of start planning and thinking, but 175 00:08:24,805 --> 00:08:26,605 they don't even know what they're doing yet. 176 00:08:26,607 --> 00:08:28,406 So we can't really even plan. 177 00:08:29,108 --> 00:08:29,708 [Audrey] Yay! 178 00:08:29,710 --> 00:08:30,876 Perfect. 179 00:08:30,878 --> 00:08:32,611 -We're good -[Audrey] Love it, love it, love it. 180 00:08:32,613 --> 00:08:34,713 Teamwork to make the dream work. 181 00:08:34,715 --> 00:08:37,749 So one of the things that we're doing today is a bake along. 182 00:08:37,751 --> 00:08:40,185 So Audrey and Mariah posted online, 183 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:42,921 our banana bread recipe that we're gonna do. 184 00:08:42,923 --> 00:08:45,290 Mariah and I will go live on social media 185 00:08:45,292 --> 00:08:46,725 as we're making it. 186 00:08:46,727 --> 00:08:49,060 Okay, so we are doing our bake along. 187 00:08:49,062 --> 00:08:53,865 This is Mariah's brilliant idea to do 188 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:56,601 for this 150-year event. So thank you. 189 00:08:56,603 --> 00:09:00,071 We decided to do our banana bread recipe. 190 00:09:00,073 --> 00:09:03,408 It is family famous. 191 00:09:04,243 --> 00:09:07,746 But maybe, if you guys are baking along... 192 00:09:07,748 --> 00:09:09,848 It will be famous in your family as well. 193 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:13,919 Mariah and I have really come to a good place. 194 00:09:13,921 --> 00:09:16,154 Like our relationship is really good. 195 00:09:16,156 --> 00:09:18,223 You know, there was tension for a while. 196 00:09:19,959 --> 00:09:21,293 Okay, Mom, 197 00:09:22,995 --> 00:09:24,229 I'm gay. 198 00:09:26,165 --> 00:09:30,035 You know, I think there was probably multiple things that, 199 00:09:30,736 --> 00:09:33,438 contributed to the tension. 200 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,074 There were times that I was angry at you, Kody. 201 00:09:36,776 --> 00:09:40,512 Not gonna lie. I'm, I was angry at you. 202 00:09:41,981 --> 00:09:45,016 I had some stress and trauma going on in my life. 203 00:09:45,018 --> 00:09:48,086 She was figuring some things out for herself 204 00:09:48,088 --> 00:09:51,156 and it really just caused a conflict. 205 00:09:51,158 --> 00:09:53,258 To be honest with you this is a little bit, 206 00:09:53,260 --> 00:09:55,594 not quite ripe enough, if you ask me. 207 00:09:55,596 --> 00:09:57,996 - I like them a little bit more... - As brown as possible. 208 00:09:57,998 --> 00:09:59,431 I like, yeah, but not black. 209 00:09:59,899 --> 00:10:02,634 I like them, like this. 210 00:10:02,636 --> 00:10:06,104 Color of brown more all over. Okay? 211 00:10:06,106 --> 00:10:10,275 My personality is black and white, hot or cold. 212 00:10:10,277 --> 00:10:11,876 There's no in the middle. 213 00:10:11,878 --> 00:10:13,578 I'm like, you don't want to have a relationship with me 214 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:14,946 fine, 215 00:10:15,014 --> 00:10:17,215 but like I remember thinking, you know what, 216 00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:22,120 that's obviously not the way to handle a relationship. 217 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:23,555 So two cups of flour, 218 00:10:23,889 --> 00:10:24,956 one, 219 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:27,058 teaspoon of baking soda, half teaspoon salt. 220 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:29,761 This is an easy recipe, y'all. 221 00:10:29,763 --> 00:10:32,964 [Meri] You know, something that I've really been trying to work on 222 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:37,002 is how I interact and respond to other people. 223 00:10:37,004 --> 00:10:38,269 That's what it looks like. 224 00:10:38,271 --> 00:10:40,305 You know, making sure the other person 225 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:43,708 feels heard and validated. 226 00:10:43,710 --> 00:10:45,610 Oh, and another thing that I learned 227 00:10:45,612 --> 00:10:48,313 when I was growing up is clean as you go, when you cook. 228 00:10:48,315 --> 00:10:49,147 Thanks, Mom. 229 00:10:49,149 --> 00:10:50,615 You're welcome. 230 00:10:50,617 --> 00:10:52,217 I've got a lot of relationships 231 00:10:52,219 --> 00:10:57,722 that I would like to improve, and I know that it really takes 232 00:10:57,724 --> 00:11:01,092 honesty and openness to do that. 233 00:11:01,094 --> 00:11:03,194 We say our goodbyes for the day, 234 00:11:03,196 --> 00:11:05,263 but thank you for hanging out with us. 235 00:11:05,265 --> 00:11:07,799 I hope you've had a fabulous Saturday. 236 00:11:07,801 --> 00:11:10,335 You know, I've got 237 00:11:10,337 --> 00:11:13,705 a little conversation that I'd like to have with Janelle, 238 00:11:13,707 --> 00:11:15,573 because you know, I keep hearing 239 00:11:16,542 --> 00:11:19,911 comments and ideas and thoughts about, 240 00:11:19,913 --> 00:11:24,015 you know, an issue that I just feel like I need to bring up to her. 241 00:11:24,017 --> 00:11:28,253 You know, hopefully, this technique of just listening 242 00:11:28,255 --> 00:11:30,622 can help other relationships, as well. 243 00:11:39,398 --> 00:11:40,899 [Caleb] Janelle, come sit here with me. 244 00:11:40,901 --> 00:11:42,901 Great job! 245 00:11:42,903 --> 00:11:44,869 [Janelle] Evie's surgery was three days ago. 246 00:11:44,871 --> 00:11:46,304 Nothing was out of order, 247 00:11:46,306 --> 00:11:49,140 like it was just all went according to the way it was supposed to. 248 00:11:49,142 --> 00:11:51,209 And they came home really quickly 249 00:11:51,211 --> 00:11:53,244 compared to what we thought was gonna happen. 250 00:11:53,246 --> 00:11:55,847 Evie is not 100%. 251 00:11:55,849 --> 00:11:58,883 I mean she's not super happy yet, 252 00:11:58,885 --> 00:12:02,887 but she's not this miserable crying, poor little baby. 253 00:12:02,889 --> 00:12:04,589 [Caleb] She's one year old. 254 00:12:04,591 --> 00:12:06,725 [Janelle] Now she's, now she's starting now, she's like wait, 255 00:12:06,727 --> 00:12:08,359 I can stick my thumb in there? 256 00:12:08,361 --> 00:12:11,162 [Janelle] Her birthday was her day of surgery, her actual birthday. 257 00:12:11,164 --> 00:12:14,132 So we're going to just celebrate her one year about birthday, 258 00:12:14,134 --> 00:12:15,166 a little late. 259 00:12:15,168 --> 00:12:16,968 Here you go, Ms. Evie. 260 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:18,203 [man] Okay, was that good, buddy? 261 00:12:18,205 --> 00:12:20,572 [Janelle] Cut her through the frosting into the cake maybe. 262 00:12:21,307 --> 00:12:24,309 So Evie had surgery 263 00:12:24,311 --> 00:12:26,077 a little bit ago, huh? 264 00:12:26,612 --> 00:12:28,947 She is getting her cast off soon. 265 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:33,551 She had what's called a void amputation. 266 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,121 So they cut off from here 267 00:12:36,123 --> 00:12:38,089 basically, 268 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:43,128 just so that the heel will fit in a prosthetic, 269 00:12:43,130 --> 00:12:46,998 and they did that because Evie's 270 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,601 left leg is shorter than her right leg. 271 00:12:50,202 --> 00:12:52,070 [man] And lick the frosting! 272 00:12:53,172 --> 00:12:55,273 Welcome to our family. 273 00:12:57,610 --> 00:12:59,177 [Janelle] Evie is already moving around 274 00:12:59,179 --> 00:13:01,980 and I know that with prosthetics and stuff, 275 00:13:01,982 --> 00:13:03,882 her life's gonna, not be any different. 276 00:13:03,884 --> 00:13:07,152 She's not going to ever know, anything different. 277 00:13:07,154 --> 00:13:10,155 She's going to grow up and be able to run and play 278 00:13:10,157 --> 00:13:11,923 and jump and everything. 279 00:13:11,925 --> 00:13:14,826 She just had part of her foot amputated 280 00:13:14,828 --> 00:13:18,196 and she's already like, okay, nothing's gonna stop me. 281 00:13:21,033 --> 00:13:22,801 [Meri] I don't know 282 00:13:22,803 --> 00:13:26,905 how much to bring up from the past and work through. 283 00:13:26,907 --> 00:13:29,707 And I've heard like you and Kody say things that 284 00:13:29,709 --> 00:13:33,211 basically, tell me there's still issues with me. 285 00:13:44,089 --> 00:13:49,160 You know, really truly Meri and I, for decades struggled, 286 00:13:49,162 --> 00:13:51,863 to understand each other to see eye to eye. 287 00:13:51,865 --> 00:13:54,632 We made it work because we had to raise the kids. 288 00:13:54,634 --> 00:13:57,702 So, we're gonna meet and probably talk about stuff 289 00:13:57,704 --> 00:13:58,803 because that's what we do. 290 00:13:58,805 --> 00:14:01,439 It's important, that we keep using the opportunities, 291 00:14:01,441 --> 00:14:05,143 that present themselves to kind of talk about our relationship. 292 00:14:06,278 --> 00:14:09,147 [Meri] Going into this conversation with Janelle, 293 00:14:09,149 --> 00:14:11,115 I'm trying to be really calm about it. 294 00:14:11,117 --> 00:14:13,218 I don't know how it's gonna go. 295 00:14:13,220 --> 00:14:15,153 I'm hoping that she and I can go into this 296 00:14:15,155 --> 00:14:18,756 both being open and kind and honest. 297 00:14:18,758 --> 00:14:20,892 You know, maybe not just the topic, 298 00:14:20,894 --> 00:14:23,962 but just the fact that she and I can have a conversation 299 00:14:23,964 --> 00:14:25,363 and work through some issues 300 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:29,634 that I can tell are still lingering. 301 00:14:29,636 --> 00:14:32,237 I was thinking about it on the way out here today. 302 00:14:32,239 --> 00:14:34,606 I think it's been almost a year, 303 00:14:34,608 --> 00:14:37,141 since we talked... 304 00:14:37,143 --> 00:14:39,978 We went to dinner that one time, 305 00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:42,180 and you're like, "What are we all here for?" 306 00:14:42,182 --> 00:14:42,914 Oh, yeah. 307 00:14:42,916 --> 00:14:44,315 - "What are we doing?" - Yeah. 308 00:14:44,317 --> 00:14:46,684 "Do we want to work on our family?" 309 00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:49,387 - And then COVID hit. - Like, what the hell? 310 00:14:50,789 --> 00:14:54,259 So, you know, I guess once we got moved to Flagstaff 311 00:14:54,261 --> 00:14:56,261 and things calmed down, I had a lot of 312 00:14:56,263 --> 00:14:59,097 time to think and I realized, 313 00:14:59,099 --> 00:15:03,968 that my future is the five adults in our family. 314 00:15:03,970 --> 00:15:05,003 Kids are gonna grow up and move away. 315 00:15:05,005 --> 00:15:07,105 But this is my community. 316 00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:09,040 And I've been really, truly waiting for inspiration. 317 00:15:09,042 --> 00:15:10,341 But maybe, the next question is, 318 00:15:10,343 --> 00:15:13,311 do you think our family feels like it used to? 319 00:15:13,313 --> 00:15:15,280 Like, back when we were all together and you know, 320 00:15:15,282 --> 00:15:16,614 like when you first met us, Robyn, 321 00:15:16,616 --> 00:15:19,617 does it feel like that in our family now? 322 00:15:19,619 --> 00:15:22,921 Since you've been to Flagstaff, it's been different. 323 00:15:22,923 --> 00:15:24,889 Because we don't need each other as much. 324 00:15:24,891 --> 00:15:25,990 We've lost something, 325 00:15:25,992 --> 00:15:28,760 and I don't know what the solution is. 326 00:15:28,762 --> 00:15:30,028 Of course, I'm an advocate of the one home, 327 00:15:30,030 --> 00:15:32,931 but I'm not saying that is the answer here. 328 00:15:32,933 --> 00:15:35,033 The COVID separation has been hard on us. 329 00:15:35,035 --> 00:15:37,602 I think it's kind of set us backwards a little bit. 330 00:15:37,604 --> 00:15:40,939 So, I'm still very much about trying to 331 00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:43,007 make this a unit of the five adults. 332 00:15:43,009 --> 00:15:45,410 The five parents stronger. 333 00:15:45,412 --> 00:15:47,979 I've been kind of feeling like... 334 00:15:50,749 --> 00:15:52,350 because of that 335 00:15:52,352 --> 00:15:55,119 you are open to conversation. 336 00:15:55,121 --> 00:15:57,255 Yes, I am. 337 00:15:57,257 --> 00:15:59,390 One of the things that 338 00:16:01,060 --> 00:16:04,929 like I know in my conversations with Kody, 339 00:16:04,931 --> 00:16:07,932 on and off through the years is 340 00:16:07,934 --> 00:16:09,834 leave the past in the past. 341 00:16:09,836 --> 00:16:13,037 - Mmm-hmm. - Let's work on from here to the future. 342 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:16,140 But if the conversation keeps coming up, 343 00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:21,879 and I keep hearing about it, this is, this is how I feel. 344 00:16:21,881 --> 00:16:23,348 And I could totally be wrong. 345 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:26,084 - I don't even know. - I mean, are you hearing conversation 346 00:16:26,086 --> 00:16:27,585 that I've said to somebody else? 347 00:16:28,253 --> 00:16:31,856 So I understand that 348 00:16:31,858 --> 00:16:34,892 Janelle talked to Christine and Kody, 349 00:16:34,894 --> 00:16:37,095 about not wanting me to have 350 00:16:37,097 --> 00:16:39,263 the piece of property by the pond. 351 00:16:39,265 --> 00:16:43,568 You know, and I've also heard Kody say, you know, I've got 352 00:16:45,070 --> 00:16:48,172 wives who really don't want Meri to be... 353 00:16:49,441 --> 00:16:50,408 by the pond. 354 00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:52,010 I don't know 355 00:16:52,244 --> 00:16:54,012 how much 356 00:16:54,014 --> 00:16:57,382 to bring up from the past and work through. 357 00:16:58,050 --> 00:16:59,083 - You know what I mean? - Yeah. 358 00:16:59,085 --> 00:17:02,620 And I've heard like you and Kody say things that 359 00:17:02,622 --> 00:17:05,957 basically, tell me there's still issues with me. 360 00:17:08,394 --> 00:17:10,461 Yes. So, I mean, sometimes 361 00:17:10,963 --> 00:17:13,965 because we are a family 362 00:17:13,967 --> 00:17:16,134 and there's not a whole lot of secrets in a family, 363 00:17:16,136 --> 00:17:19,337 conversations get spilled, quote unquote. 364 00:17:20,205 --> 00:17:23,775 Uh, Kody told me where you guys were all going to be 365 00:17:23,777 --> 00:17:25,910 and I was going to be back there. 366 00:17:25,912 --> 00:17:26,811 Oh, he told me you didn't want that. 367 00:17:26,813 --> 00:17:28,112 [Kody] You said, you didn't like it. So-- 368 00:17:28,114 --> 00:17:30,782 - Quit making up crap of what I say. - You did. 369 00:17:30,784 --> 00:17:32,183 [Kody] You said that? 370 00:17:32,185 --> 00:17:34,986 I think Meri's referencing when we were all out on the property 371 00:17:34,988 --> 00:17:37,755 talking about where to put houses. 372 00:17:37,757 --> 00:17:40,124 You told me that you guys came out here 373 00:17:40,126 --> 00:17:42,326 and she said she didn't want that spot. 374 00:17:42,328 --> 00:17:45,263 [Janelle] One thing I will say, and I told Christine this up earlier. 375 00:17:45,265 --> 00:17:46,264 Yeah. 376 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:49,967 I think whoever lives there 377 00:17:49,969 --> 00:17:52,970 has got to be totally cool with easy access to the pond, 378 00:17:52,972 --> 00:17:54,439 no control of the pond. 379 00:17:54,441 --> 00:17:55,840 Yeah, that's what Kody was saying too. 380 00:17:55,842 --> 00:17:57,742 And I know that when we lived in the Lehi house, 381 00:17:57,744 --> 00:17:59,077 she didn't want the kids going through her house 382 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:00,645 because it was a lot of traffic. 383 00:18:00,647 --> 00:18:03,948 I expressed that I didn't want anybody living near the pond 384 00:18:03,950 --> 00:18:07,218 because I felt like that should be accessible to everybody. 385 00:18:07,220 --> 00:18:09,887 And I really did have a concern specifically about Meri, 386 00:18:09,889 --> 00:18:11,322 because of some stuff that had happened 387 00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:12,990 in the past. 388 00:18:13,592 --> 00:18:15,393 I say something to Kody, 389 00:18:15,395 --> 00:18:19,297 he's not being careful, we aggravate the situation 390 00:18:19,299 --> 00:18:23,401 because we are having conversations with 391 00:18:23,403 --> 00:18:27,338 a confidant or something and those things get slipped. 392 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:30,908 [Kody] The real problem isn't the gossip between all of us. 393 00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:32,376 The real problem is, 394 00:18:32,378 --> 00:18:35,880 plural marriage requires that you behave like a saint. 395 00:18:35,882 --> 00:18:37,982 If you don't you have problems. 396 00:18:37,984 --> 00:18:40,084 We haven't been behaving like saints, 397 00:18:40,086 --> 00:18:42,587 so we have problems. 398 00:18:42,589 --> 00:18:44,989 And half of it's about the communication. 399 00:18:45,090 --> 00:18:46,223 I don't... 400 00:18:46,425 --> 00:18:49,494 I don't know if there's issues per se, or it's just 401 00:18:50,329 --> 00:18:51,262 concerns. 402 00:18:51,264 --> 00:18:53,131 So I'll just say this one, 403 00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:56,367 I have heard you say 404 00:18:56,369 --> 00:18:58,703 quite often about the pond 405 00:18:58,705 --> 00:19:00,471 and not wanting anybody by it. 406 00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:03,508 And then I've also heard you talk about the house in Lehi, 407 00:19:04,877 --> 00:19:06,511 and so it makes me feel like there's still 408 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:08,212 some, 409 00:19:09,114 --> 00:19:10,982 something. 410 00:19:10,984 --> 00:19:12,750 Well, I think I know what you're referencing 411 00:19:12,752 --> 00:19:14,819 and I really did have a concern, 412 00:19:14,821 --> 00:19:18,623 um, about anybody, especially you but anybody 413 00:19:19,057 --> 00:19:21,859 building by the pond, because 414 00:19:21,861 --> 00:19:24,128 - you know, if I want to be out there at 5:00 a.m... - Mmm-hmm. 415 00:19:25,063 --> 00:19:25,963 I don't want anyone to be like, 416 00:19:25,965 --> 00:19:27,598 you can't be out there at 5:00 a.m. 417 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,300 or if someone wants to be out there at 10:00 p.m. 418 00:19:29,302 --> 00:19:31,335 I'm not gonna be like you can't be out there at 10:00 p.m. 419 00:19:31,337 --> 00:19:32,270 - You know what I mean? - Right. 420 00:19:32,272 --> 00:19:33,905 So I had some real concerns. 421 00:19:33,907 --> 00:19:36,407 And then for a while you were talking about being by the pond 422 00:19:36,409 --> 00:19:39,243 and possibly having a deck which would be awesome. 423 00:19:39,912 --> 00:19:41,412 But I worry because in Lehi, 424 00:19:41,414 --> 00:19:43,614 you didn't want people walking through. 425 00:19:43,616 --> 00:19:46,017 So Christine and I couldn't walk through your house 426 00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:48,119 to get to each other's houses. 427 00:19:48,121 --> 00:19:50,021 Not on a regular basis. Yeah. 428 00:19:50,023 --> 00:19:51,622 Well, the kids kind of took it as, 429 00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:53,958 we always sort of took it as always. 430 00:19:55,894 --> 00:19:57,361 [Janelle] So in Lehi, we had this situation 431 00:19:57,363 --> 00:19:59,230 where Christine was downstairs, 432 00:19:59,232 --> 00:20:01,265 and Meri was upstairs 433 00:20:01,267 --> 00:20:03,935 and there was like the internal staircase. 434 00:20:03,937 --> 00:20:06,037 And then on the other side, it was me 435 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:08,940 and I had upstairs and downstairs, 436 00:20:08,942 --> 00:20:12,109 so it was kind of like all one big house connected. 437 00:20:12,111 --> 00:20:14,178 So the only way I could get to Christine's house, 438 00:20:14,180 --> 00:20:16,214 inside the house 439 00:20:16,216 --> 00:20:19,450 would be to go through Meri's upstairs apartment. 440 00:20:19,452 --> 00:20:21,285 She didn't want us to do that. 441 00:20:21,287 --> 00:20:24,622 So Christine and I had to go out the back door and in the other back door, 442 00:20:24,624 --> 00:20:26,490 we had to always be 443 00:20:26,492 --> 00:20:28,693 going outside to each other's houses. 444 00:20:28,695 --> 00:20:30,361 I slipped on those damn stairs 445 00:20:30,363 --> 00:20:33,297 so many times outside Christine's door, it was cold, 446 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:34,832 it was wet. 447 00:20:34,834 --> 00:20:36,901 I worked full time, 448 00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:40,071 there was a time that I worked two jobs. 449 00:20:40,073 --> 00:20:43,741 I just felt like that, 450 00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:47,245 it wasn't inappropriate for me to have the respect 451 00:20:47,247 --> 00:20:49,714 of my personal space within my home 452 00:20:49,716 --> 00:20:51,249 when I wasn't even there, 453 00:20:51,251 --> 00:20:55,219 I guess to me, the outside is like so different, than my... 454 00:20:55,287 --> 00:20:56,687 Oh, okay. 455 00:20:56,689 --> 00:21:00,224 - My personal space and like when I'm gone... - Okay. 456 00:21:00,226 --> 00:21:03,327 and I'm like okay, so people are going through my house 457 00:21:03,329 --> 00:21:04,729 and what's happening and, 458 00:21:04,731 --> 00:21:06,764 -you know, I mean, -I don't know, 459 00:21:06,766 --> 00:21:09,667 you know, Meri, I don't know. Like it was a long time ago, the kids were little. 460 00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:11,302 You know, and I appreciate understanding that 461 00:21:11,304 --> 00:21:13,304 it might have been a privacy thing or it might have been, 462 00:21:13,306 --> 00:21:15,473 but it always felt sort of like a control thing, 463 00:21:16,074 --> 00:21:18,042 - to me. Yeah. - Really? 464 00:21:18,044 --> 00:21:22,980 I just struggled with my living room, my living space, 465 00:21:23,382 --> 00:21:24,982 being a hallway. 466 00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:27,084 I just worried that, 467 00:21:27,086 --> 00:21:30,988 you'd get angry at one time, like we all do. 468 00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:32,990 And instead of like slamming the doors 469 00:21:32,992 --> 00:21:35,159 when we all lived in one house, you just slammed the doors 470 00:21:35,161 --> 00:21:36,394 and stuff 'cause you were angry. 471 00:21:36,396 --> 00:21:37,895 You'd somehow, 472 00:21:37,897 --> 00:21:39,196 - like... - Wow, Janelle. 473 00:21:40,198 --> 00:21:41,966 Like, no, but these were the things that were, 474 00:21:41,968 --> 00:21:44,235 you know, like I'm thinking, well you might just be like, 475 00:21:44,237 --> 00:21:48,105 well, nobody can come over and use my part of the pond or something, like... 476 00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:49,974 These were the things I was afraid of. 477 00:21:50,809 --> 00:21:52,243 [sighs wearily] 478 00:21:55,947 --> 00:22:01,786 I don't know. I guess, I just didn't think that this was gonna be 479 00:22:01,788 --> 00:22:08,893 starting to point fingers at what-somebody's-done-wrong kind of a conversation. 480 00:22:08,895 --> 00:22:12,196 Yeah, I have slammed doors and I've been mad before. 481 00:22:12,198 --> 00:22:16,033 And I've always worried about and it could be any of us. 482 00:22:16,035 --> 00:22:18,002 Honestly, that's why I didn't want anybody 483 00:22:18,004 --> 00:22:19,503 because you get sort of, 484 00:22:20,238 --> 00:22:22,807 like, you get specific about your area 485 00:22:22,809 --> 00:22:25,076 and then it creates barriers 486 00:22:25,078 --> 00:22:28,045 and problems for the family, as a whole. 487 00:22:28,047 --> 00:22:31,749 They're not feeling the sister-wife relationship, 488 00:22:31,751 --> 00:22:33,751 and for years 489 00:22:33,753 --> 00:22:36,454 actually, for decades, for decades, 490 00:22:36,456 --> 00:22:40,624 I have been trying to get them all to function 491 00:22:40,626 --> 00:22:43,127 in a sense, as my family 492 00:22:43,962 --> 00:22:47,264 and I have discovered that my wives really 493 00:22:47,266 --> 00:22:51,335 don't want that relationship with each other. 494 00:22:51,937 --> 00:22:52,937 So what do we, 495 00:22:53,939 --> 00:22:56,407 like honestly, like for real legit, 496 00:22:56,409 --> 00:22:59,243 I don't know, like what we'd do about that now 497 00:22:59,245 --> 00:23:00,978 because there is the history. 498 00:23:00,980 --> 00:23:02,113 Yeah. 499 00:23:02,115 --> 00:23:04,181 Um, I have my reasons which... 500 00:23:04,983 --> 00:23:08,085 we obviously have never talked about. 501 00:23:08,087 --> 00:23:11,155 The stairs were basically right across the hall from my bedroom 502 00:23:11,157 --> 00:23:13,090 and I'm like if I'm in bed 503 00:23:13,092 --> 00:23:15,326 and maybe Kody's there with me, 504 00:23:15,328 --> 00:23:18,796 it's just weird to have a wife walk through my house. 505 00:23:18,798 --> 00:23:20,731 Sorry, you know what I mean? 506 00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:23,567 I would never want to come across as 507 00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:27,204 like just trying to justify my position, 508 00:23:27,206 --> 00:23:30,508 but at the same time wanting to hear my position, heard. 509 00:23:30,510 --> 00:23:32,610 You know, I think for us back then it was just 510 00:23:32,612 --> 00:23:34,445 whatever opinion was the loudest, 511 00:23:34,447 --> 00:23:36,080 of I don't really want anybody 512 00:23:36,082 --> 00:23:37,448 to come through my house all the time, 513 00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:39,517 which I get, like I get that. 514 00:23:40,886 --> 00:23:44,588 So, it would have been nice if we could have been logical at that point. 515 00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:47,625 And making a decision that would have incorporated everything, 516 00:23:47,627 --> 00:23:49,560 the family and the individual. 517 00:23:49,562 --> 00:23:52,863 For me, the only time it really came up was with the pond. 518 00:23:52,865 --> 00:23:57,067 Like, and worrying about access for the whole family. 519 00:23:57,069 --> 00:23:59,203 And I think, we should write legal contracts 520 00:23:59,205 --> 00:24:01,505 because you know what, there's no guarantees. 521 00:24:04,943 --> 00:24:07,211 - Okay, I hear you. - Yeah. 522 00:24:07,213 --> 00:24:09,313 Right now, we would all agree 523 00:24:09,315 --> 00:24:11,615 to the access and it wouldn't be a problem. 524 00:24:11,617 --> 00:24:14,752 But what happens if somebody dies 525 00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:17,822 or somebody gets disgruntled and moves away. 526 00:24:17,824 --> 00:24:20,157 It would be good to have it in writing 527 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:23,027 that there was always access to the pond or whatever. 528 00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:25,830 The rules are gonna be whatever we decide, the rules are. 529 00:24:25,832 --> 00:24:27,932 Like I feel bad in a way 530 00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:31,135 because I was talking sort of behind your back with this 531 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:33,938 and there was leakage and there was spillover, 532 00:24:34,306 --> 00:24:36,640 but by the time it came up with the pond 533 00:24:36,642 --> 00:24:38,409 it was such ancient history. I was like, 534 00:24:40,912 --> 00:24:41,912 I guess I feel different. 535 00:24:41,914 --> 00:24:44,415 I don't, I guess I don't feel like that... 536 00:24:47,085 --> 00:24:49,753 I don't know. There's a lot that I feel different about 537 00:24:49,755 --> 00:24:51,121 but I definitely don't want to be like, 538 00:24:51,123 --> 00:24:52,957 well, you can say your piece, 539 00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:56,026 but so I'm gonna like go back at you. 540 00:24:56,028 --> 00:24:57,761 I don't, I'm not gonna do that. 541 00:24:57,763 --> 00:25:00,264 I want to, like be in a place where I'm like hearing 542 00:25:00,266 --> 00:25:03,200 -what you're saying, -And you want, 543 00:25:03,202 --> 00:25:07,071 you have something, you want to say about the original Lehi situation 544 00:25:07,073 --> 00:25:08,372 or... 545 00:25:09,574 --> 00:25:13,310 I, to be honest with you, I'm feeling a wall, right now. 546 00:25:24,689 --> 00:25:29,193 I, to be honest with you, I'm feeling a wall, right now. 547 00:25:29,195 --> 00:25:32,329 So let's just sit for a minute because I don't want that, you don't need that wall. 548 00:25:36,067 --> 00:25:38,435 Like, I just feel like there's the, 549 00:25:39,404 --> 00:25:41,338 coming at me of what I did wrong. 550 00:25:42,374 --> 00:25:44,174 I put a guard around myself 551 00:25:45,343 --> 00:25:46,777 like, 552 00:25:46,779 --> 00:25:48,812 this is just kind of what I do 553 00:25:48,814 --> 00:25:52,049 and this is something that I'm really trying not to do 554 00:25:52,051 --> 00:25:54,952 and I get very defensive 555 00:25:54,954 --> 00:25:57,421 because I don't want to be hurt. 556 00:25:58,690 --> 00:26:01,959 I kind of tend to always feel like I've done something wrong 557 00:26:03,028 --> 00:26:06,196 and so with this conversation about the pond, 558 00:26:06,198 --> 00:26:08,265 you know, it's, it's like 559 00:26:09,267 --> 00:26:11,602 all these things coming up again and I don't... 560 00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:20,511 I don't want to feel it, and I want to feel like that we're passed that. 561 00:26:22,213 --> 00:26:23,914 No, I just was expressing where I felt. 562 00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:25,349 I know and I get that. 563 00:26:25,351 --> 00:26:28,586 I think, it's just a natural defensiveness that 564 00:26:28,588 --> 00:26:30,087 I feel or, 565 00:26:31,790 --> 00:26:34,325 I think all humans do at some point. 566 00:26:34,327 --> 00:26:37,261 So my problem was I never wanted to rock the boat and you... 567 00:26:37,263 --> 00:26:39,263 I think maybe you always 568 00:26:39,265 --> 00:26:41,532 wanted to take things really to heart. 569 00:26:42,701 --> 00:26:45,069 Yeah, I never knew where you stood. 570 00:26:45,071 --> 00:26:48,973 Like when you came into the picture, I was like, 571 00:26:50,208 --> 00:26:52,343 I thought that it would be something completely different. 572 00:26:52,345 --> 00:26:55,479 I had hoped that it would be something completely different 573 00:26:56,147 --> 00:26:58,148 just based on the relationships 574 00:26:58,150 --> 00:27:00,317 that I had had with people prior. 575 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:01,952 Um, you know, with Kody 576 00:27:01,954 --> 00:27:03,854 and other people and it was 577 00:27:03,856 --> 00:27:05,589 so not, until like, 578 00:27:05,591 --> 00:27:08,258 for me, I took that as like... 579 00:27:10,328 --> 00:27:11,795 complete rejection. 580 00:27:11,797 --> 00:27:14,798 - Hmm, see, and I felt the same from you. - Yeah. 581 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,002 You know when Janelle, when Janelle came in 582 00:27:18,004 --> 00:27:22,072 to the picture, I mean Janelle was in my picture 583 00:27:22,074 --> 00:27:23,941 before I even knew Kody. 584 00:27:23,943 --> 00:27:26,377 But when you know, it came to 585 00:27:27,078 --> 00:27:28,579 her joining the family, 586 00:27:31,182 --> 00:27:34,151 I really thought that our relationship was going to be different. 587 00:27:34,153 --> 00:27:37,154 I did. I kind of felt rejected by her because I felt like, 588 00:27:37,156 --> 00:27:40,624 that I was doing things 589 00:27:40,626 --> 00:27:45,029 to kind of promote this friendship between the two of us 590 00:27:45,296 --> 00:27:48,899 and she wasn't 591 00:27:48,901 --> 00:27:51,001 taking them and accepting them, 592 00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:52,670 and so I felt rejected. 593 00:27:52,672 --> 00:27:53,904 I can remember 594 00:27:53,906 --> 00:27:57,074 trying to make all these little overtures in the beginning 595 00:27:57,076 --> 00:27:58,976 and you just wouldn't respond. 596 00:27:58,978 --> 00:28:00,978 Maybe I had already, we'd already 597 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:03,147 created hard feelings by that point. 598 00:28:03,149 --> 00:28:05,649 -I don't know. I don't know. -I don't even know. 599 00:28:05,651 --> 00:28:08,052 I actually knew Meri, for a long time 600 00:28:08,054 --> 00:28:10,854 and I knew Meri and Kody as a married couple. 601 00:28:10,856 --> 00:28:12,990 Just the fact, that I was going to come into the family 602 00:28:12,992 --> 00:28:14,825 and I did come into the family, 603 00:28:14,827 --> 00:28:18,495 changed the dynamic so much that the friendship was, 604 00:28:19,964 --> 00:28:22,866 the friendship as it had existed was irretrievable really. 605 00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:26,103 And we just never could forge a new friendship. 606 00:28:26,105 --> 00:28:27,971 I think for me it was just more, 607 00:28:27,973 --> 00:28:30,040 I had never dealt with someone who was so forceful, 608 00:28:30,042 --> 00:28:31,809 it shut me down. 609 00:28:31,811 --> 00:28:33,210 I don't even know how to interact with somebody 610 00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:36,847 who just was so direct and so brutally honest. 611 00:28:36,849 --> 00:28:38,716 Like, I just didn't know how to deal with that. 612 00:28:38,718 --> 00:28:40,417 It was too harsh for me. 613 00:28:40,419 --> 00:28:43,954 If it makes you feel better, I don't remember a lot about those years. 614 00:28:43,956 --> 00:28:45,756 I don't, I don't really remember 615 00:28:45,758 --> 00:28:47,891 there's a few things that stick out 616 00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:51,962 that kind of came up with the pond because I was so, 617 00:28:51,964 --> 00:28:54,531 overwhelmed emotionally, I had all these little kids. 618 00:28:54,533 --> 00:28:57,901 I didn't have all the kids in my care. 619 00:28:57,903 --> 00:29:00,971 - Unfortunately, I wasn't blessed that way... - Yeah, right. 620 00:29:00,973 --> 00:29:05,676 but I was blessed to have you and your kids and I 621 00:29:05,678 --> 00:29:07,244 took them on a lot. 622 00:29:07,246 --> 00:29:10,781 You know, you're a young wife, you're a young mom, 623 00:29:10,783 --> 00:29:13,016 you're a young sister-wife, you know, 624 00:29:13,018 --> 00:29:14,818 and you're trying to figure things out, 625 00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:18,021 fast-forward five or 10 or 15 or 30 years 626 00:29:18,023 --> 00:29:21,358 and you look back at yourself and you're like, 627 00:29:22,127 --> 00:29:25,129 no, that wasn't the best that I could have done. 628 00:29:25,131 --> 00:29:27,865 But then you have to like give yourself grace. 629 00:29:27,867 --> 00:29:29,967 I mean I'm not perfect, 630 00:29:29,969 --> 00:29:32,636 I'm not gonna profess to be, but 631 00:29:33,138 --> 00:29:35,239 I don't think anybody is 632 00:29:35,241 --> 00:29:37,608 and I don't think anybody should be expected to be... 633 00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:39,176 - No, I agree. - to be honest with you. 634 00:29:39,178 --> 00:29:40,677 But I just feel like, what do we do now 635 00:29:40,679 --> 00:29:42,913 because we have this history and then like, 636 00:29:42,915 --> 00:29:47,284 it's molded us good or bad, take it or leave it 637 00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:50,454 and it's what we are and now, what do we do with it? 638 00:29:50,456 --> 00:29:52,089 I'm looking like, we're 50, Meri, 639 00:29:52,091 --> 00:29:54,558 - like we have 50 more years probably. - Yeah, 640 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,594 - I want to move forward in a meaningful way. - Yeah. 641 00:29:57,596 --> 00:30:01,165 And I don't know how the relationships pan out, 642 00:30:01,167 --> 00:30:03,300 but I don't know because there's, 643 00:30:03,868 --> 00:30:05,035 I don't know, 644 00:30:05,037 --> 00:30:06,503 like, I don't know, 645 00:30:06,505 --> 00:30:09,106 but I think we can all, 646 00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:10,941 you know, I don't want to say 647 00:30:10,943 --> 00:30:12,409 I don't know how the relationships pan out. 648 00:30:12,411 --> 00:30:16,780 I'm just gonna visualize it that we're all five a functioning team. 649 00:30:16,782 --> 00:30:18,615 I don't see it any other way. 650 00:30:18,617 --> 00:30:20,951 For me, it was just really about 651 00:30:21,686 --> 00:30:23,587 free access to the pond for everybody. 652 00:30:23,589 --> 00:30:26,957 - Which I... - I think we're in agreement. 653 00:30:26,959 --> 00:30:30,060 [Meri] To me, the pond is the pond, you know. 654 00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:34,031 It wasn't about me having a house by the pond 655 00:30:34,033 --> 00:30:36,400 and having complete control over the pond. 656 00:30:36,968 --> 00:30:39,436 I don't look at it that way. 657 00:30:39,438 --> 00:30:41,605 I don't look at it, that way at all. 658 00:30:41,607 --> 00:30:43,340 So, I think we have come a long way 659 00:30:43,342 --> 00:30:45,909 but, it just is going to take some time, you know. 660 00:30:45,911 --> 00:30:47,344 We have a long time though. 661 00:30:48,046 --> 00:30:50,247 I mean you're kind of stuck with me for 662 00:30:50,949 --> 00:30:52,316 as long as you want to be stuck with me. 663 00:30:52,318 --> 00:30:54,117 - That was my plan. - Okay. 664 00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:57,654 -So, -I'm not going anywhere, either. 665 00:30:57,656 --> 00:31:02,392 I mean, you know, relationships are, they ebb and they flow like, you know, 666 00:31:02,394 --> 00:31:05,262 but I'm not really planning on ever going anywhere. 667 00:31:05,329 --> 00:31:06,630 Yeah. 668 00:31:06,632 --> 00:31:08,198 I think this is a start. 669 00:31:09,167 --> 00:31:11,101 Oh, my gosh, I think it's a good step 670 00:31:11,103 --> 00:31:13,003 and I think, this is good effort for Janelle and I 671 00:31:13,005 --> 00:31:16,473 to be kind of working through some of our issues, you know, 672 00:31:16,475 --> 00:31:19,977 because not everybody in the family is willing to work through issues. 673 00:31:19,979 --> 00:31:24,081 It's not any secret that my relationship with Kody 674 00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:26,950 is not how I would like it to be, 675 00:31:26,952 --> 00:31:29,720 but I'm here, I'm not going anywhere. 676 00:31:29,722 --> 00:31:31,722 I'm not an idiot, 677 00:31:31,724 --> 00:31:36,226 you know, and I can get a vibe if somebody wants to work on things or not. 678 00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,262 And for me, I'm just gonna just be here 679 00:31:38,264 --> 00:31:40,330 and I'll work on the relationships 680 00:31:40,332 --> 00:31:43,767 as I can and as we work on individual ones, 681 00:31:43,769 --> 00:31:46,470 it will just kind of help the whole. 682 00:31:49,807 --> 00:31:51,275 [Janelle] You know, I've been very frustrated, 683 00:31:51,277 --> 00:31:53,176 'cause I feel like we haven't prioritized 684 00:31:53,178 --> 00:31:54,378 getting on the property like we should have, 685 00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:55,946 We're doing five water tanks. 686 00:31:55,948 --> 00:31:57,414 Yeah, we'll do one for each house. 687 00:31:57,416 --> 00:31:59,216 - There's five houses. - Yes, there's five lots. 688 00:31:59,218 --> 00:32:00,450 There will be five houses. 689 00:32:00,452 --> 00:32:03,253 Every time I talk about some investment that we can make 690 00:32:03,255 --> 00:32:06,323 they poo-poo me, they fight with me, I want a rental. 691 00:32:06,325 --> 00:32:07,591 I think that's fair. 692 00:32:07,593 --> 00:32:08,625 I need a house. 693 00:32:08,627 --> 00:32:09,993 Like let's build our own houses first. 694 00:32:09,995 --> 00:32:11,328 How about that? 695 00:32:25,076 --> 00:32:28,512 [Kody] So, it's been two years since we bought the property. 696 00:32:28,514 --> 00:32:31,114 So we've been really slow going on this project. 697 00:32:32,417 --> 00:32:34,051 Look at the big tractor. 698 00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:36,620 See that thing, they were digging all last night. 699 00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:38,822 [Janelle] Where are they gonna put the tank? 700 00:32:38,824 --> 00:32:41,692 Over on the road next to the road going up the hill. 701 00:32:41,694 --> 00:32:44,895 So far we've not developed the property at all. 702 00:32:44,897 --> 00:32:49,566 We've been basically going through hashing it out on who gets what property? 703 00:32:49,568 --> 00:32:51,969 Hey, Sol, you're not in school, huh? 704 00:32:51,971 --> 00:32:54,838 I didn't want the school to get in the way of his education. 705 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,139 Yeah. 706 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,141 [Janelle] So, I just had a conversation with Meri, 707 00:32:58,143 --> 00:33:00,277 I feel like it was a very nice 708 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,646 preview of what any of the conversations 709 00:33:02,648 --> 00:33:05,115 that we have in the future could look like. 710 00:33:05,117 --> 00:33:08,218 Like I just think, this was really constructive today. 711 00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:09,886 I want him to see the holes. Come on. 712 00:33:09,888 --> 00:33:11,588 [Janelle] I've been very frustrated, 713 00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:12,956 'cause I feel like we haven't prioritized 714 00:33:12,958 --> 00:33:14,391 getting on the property like we should have. 715 00:33:14,393 --> 00:33:15,993 This has been kind of frustrating to me 716 00:33:15,995 --> 00:33:17,627 how slow this has gone. 717 00:33:17,629 --> 00:33:19,596 You want to come out and help me peel these logs. 718 00:33:20,264 --> 00:33:21,231 You don't. 719 00:33:21,399 --> 00:33:23,767 We're having a giant cistern delivered today. 720 00:33:23,769 --> 00:33:27,604 A cistern is a tank that holds water and delivers it to your home. 721 00:33:27,606 --> 00:33:30,107 It's gonna sit in the ground right there running this way. 722 00:33:30,109 --> 00:33:31,942 - [Janelle] Okay. - It's huge, huh, Sol. 723 00:33:31,944 --> 00:33:33,043 Do you want to jump in it? 724 00:33:33,045 --> 00:33:34,878 - [Solomon] No, no, no. - Okay. Just teasing you. 725 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,916 This is a polygamist cistern. It's 20,000 gallons 726 00:33:39,918 --> 00:33:44,054 Delivering water, that will go to each one of the homes. 727 00:33:44,056 --> 00:33:45,355 It's a tiny step, 728 00:33:45,357 --> 00:33:47,858 but it's really progress moving forward. 729 00:33:47,860 --> 00:33:49,026 And maybe one of these days 730 00:33:49,028 --> 00:33:51,161 we'll actually, get a house built and 731 00:33:51,163 --> 00:33:53,130 start moving out onto Coyote Pass. 732 00:33:53,132 --> 00:33:54,898 20,000 gallons, right? Yeah. 733 00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:58,101 Well, that's 20,000 gallons to feed 734 00:33:58,103 --> 00:34:03,006 each one of ours, which is going to be five times five. 735 00:34:03,008 --> 00:34:04,975 We're doing five water tanks? 736 00:34:04,977 --> 00:34:06,843 Yeah, we'll do one for each house. 737 00:34:06,845 --> 00:34:08,345 There's five houses? 738 00:34:08,347 --> 00:34:11,014 Yes, there's five lots. There will be five houses. 739 00:34:11,016 --> 00:34:12,649 You're gonna have your own house? 740 00:34:12,651 --> 00:34:15,152 - There's five lots. - Okay. 741 00:34:15,154 --> 00:34:18,922 I mean, we got enough, enough visiting kids that we, 742 00:34:18,924 --> 00:34:19,756 we might need a guesthouse. 743 00:34:19,758 --> 00:34:20,690 - I don't know. - Okay. 744 00:34:20,692 --> 00:34:22,259 My wives are just funny, this way. 745 00:34:22,261 --> 00:34:25,062 Every time I talk about some investment that we can make 746 00:34:25,064 --> 00:34:27,798 that will actually, create an income for us that will, 747 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,266 will actually become an asset, 748 00:34:29,268 --> 00:34:31,468 they poo-poo me, they fight with me, 749 00:34:31,470 --> 00:34:34,104 they argue with me, they want to know the details. 750 00:34:34,106 --> 00:34:35,405 I want a rental. 751 00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:36,973 I think that's fair. 752 00:34:36,975 --> 00:34:39,609 - Okay. - We've discussed this. 753 00:34:39,611 --> 00:34:41,244 I'm just teasing you. Gosh... 754 00:34:41,246 --> 00:34:43,213 Okay, so, what Kody keeps talking about 755 00:34:43,215 --> 00:34:45,115 is buying all these rental properties, 756 00:34:45,117 --> 00:34:47,918 which won't really pay us any income for a lot of years 757 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,220 before I build my own house, to live in. 758 00:34:50,222 --> 00:34:52,155 So, that's where we get really upset. 759 00:34:52,157 --> 00:34:53,890 It's like, let's build our own houses first. 760 00:34:53,892 --> 00:34:54,724 How about that? 761 00:34:54,726 --> 00:34:55,992 Do you want to climb down in it? 762 00:34:55,994 --> 00:34:58,161 I'll just let you down in it, and I'll help you back out. 763 00:34:58,163 --> 00:35:00,297 Okay, as the mother who is here, would his mother 764 00:35:00,299 --> 00:35:02,599 - want him to do this? - It will be fine here. 765 00:35:02,601 --> 00:35:04,167 -No, gosh, Kody. -Come here. I'll show you, Sol. 766 00:35:04,169 --> 00:35:06,136 Come over here. All right, so... 767 00:35:06,138 --> 00:35:08,839 [Janelle] I know Robyn, and I know Robyn's a big worrier, 768 00:35:08,841 --> 00:35:10,340 probably bigger than I am. 769 00:35:10,342 --> 00:35:13,043 And I'm like, "Dude, I have to represent Robyn here." 770 00:35:13,045 --> 00:35:14,277 - Come over here. - This is terrifying. 771 00:35:14,279 --> 00:35:16,079 - Are you sure it's okay? - It's terrifying. 772 00:35:16,081 --> 00:35:19,216 It's a giant hole. And a little boy. 773 00:35:19,218 --> 00:35:22,419 What... what better magic is there? 774 00:35:22,421 --> 00:35:25,088 Robyn's preference is that I'm always playing... 775 00:35:25,090 --> 00:35:27,157 He's going to be fine. 776 00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:31,094 It's just fun to get in holes. Big, big dirt holes. 777 00:35:31,096 --> 00:35:33,096 It's almost like walking through a cave? 778 00:35:33,098 --> 00:35:36,199 All right, just make big, big steps or little step... 779 00:35:36,201 --> 00:35:38,802 Go low to the ground. He's gotta go low to the ground. 780 00:35:38,804 --> 00:35:40,170 [Kody] How does it look down there? 781 00:35:41,372 --> 00:35:46,143 Well, I mean, is it like deep? Are you amazed at its size? 782 00:35:46,145 --> 00:35:47,243 It's actually pretty big. 783 00:35:47,245 --> 00:35:50,147 I guess I hadn't thought about how big 20,000 was. 784 00:35:52,783 --> 00:35:55,252 Look, Sol, there it is. Look at that. Look at that. 785 00:35:55,254 --> 00:35:58,488 - Oh, my, that's humongous. - Look at that tank. 786 00:35:59,957 --> 00:36:05,529 I have no idea, how many gallons 20,000 gallons is. 787 00:36:05,531 --> 00:36:07,197 I know what a gallon of milk looks like 788 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:10,300 and I guess 20,000 of those lined up. 789 00:36:10,302 --> 00:36:14,037 But I don't know how many of those, I would use to take a shower. 790 00:36:14,071 --> 00:36:16,273 I have no idea. 791 00:36:16,275 --> 00:36:19,843 [Robyn] Yeah, so, the 20,000-gallon cistern seems like a lot. 792 00:36:19,845 --> 00:36:22,179 It depends on who's taking the shower. 793 00:36:22,181 --> 00:36:26,116 If it's Kody taking a shower it's not a lot of showers. 794 00:36:26,118 --> 00:36:29,152 Kody takes really long showers. 795 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:31,688 [Janelle] This is actually, a big step. 796 00:36:31,690 --> 00:36:34,624 We cannot build, until we have our infrastructure built. 797 00:36:34,626 --> 00:36:38,261 We can now hook our pipes up to this big thing and get water. 798 00:36:38,263 --> 00:36:40,130 So that's a really big step. You have raw land. 799 00:36:40,132 --> 00:36:41,231 So I have... we have no sewer, 800 00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:43,099 we have no water, we have no power. 801 00:36:43,101 --> 00:36:47,070 This is a really big step putting the water in on this land. 802 00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:50,373 [Kody] This is the beginning of our development of the property, 803 00:36:50,808 --> 00:36:52,242 right here. 804 00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:57,614 [Christine] All right, Ysabel, here we are. 805 00:36:59,617 --> 00:37:00,784 Yay! 806 00:37:00,786 --> 00:37:02,485 Ysabel is really hurt that Kody is not here. 807 00:37:02,487 --> 00:37:04,054 Okay, then bend forward. 808 00:37:04,056 --> 00:37:04,955 Good. 809 00:37:04,957 --> 00:37:07,057 I need him there 810 00:37:07,059 --> 00:37:10,594 and he's not putting his daughter above the fear that he has of the pandemic. 811 00:37:10,596 --> 00:37:12,596 So here's the rib coming up like this. 812 00:37:13,798 --> 00:37:15,498 I feel like a good mom today. 813 00:37:23,140 --> 00:37:24,708 [Christine] Once we got to New Jersey, 814 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:27,010 we had to quarantine for two weeks. 815 00:37:27,012 --> 00:37:31,114 My sister lives like an hour away from the surgery center. 816 00:37:31,116 --> 00:37:33,250 So we're going to quarantine with her for two weeks 817 00:37:33,252 --> 00:37:35,185 and she's agreed to follow, 818 00:37:35,187 --> 00:37:38,088 and everything the hospital recommended us follow. 819 00:37:38,090 --> 00:37:39,889 Well, the hospital insisted us follow. 820 00:37:39,891 --> 00:37:41,524 All right, Ysabel, here we are. 821 00:37:43,027 --> 00:37:44,261 Yay! 822 00:37:44,362 --> 00:37:46,363 [Christine] We're meeting Dr. Antonacci for the first time. 823 00:37:46,365 --> 00:37:47,764 - Uh-huh. - What do you think? 824 00:37:47,766 --> 00:37:50,600 I'm pretty excited and I'm nervous. 825 00:37:50,602 --> 00:37:56,606 I am worried and nervous about a big surgery like this. 826 00:37:56,608 --> 00:37:58,208 - [knocking at door] - [Christine] Open the door. 827 00:37:59,877 --> 00:38:01,611 But while I'm with Ysabel, 828 00:38:01,613 --> 00:38:04,748 I'm gonna be as upbeat as possible. 829 00:38:04,750 --> 00:38:06,616 That's her. Is that her? 830 00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:08,618 [nurse] Yes we are putting up Ysabel's X-rays here, 831 00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:09,753 that we just took at the hospital. 832 00:38:09,755 --> 00:38:10,887 [Christine] Oh, good. 833 00:38:10,889 --> 00:38:12,989 [nurse] But these are the blueprints for surgery. 834 00:38:12,991 --> 00:38:14,557 [Christine] So these are the ones from yesterday? 835 00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:18,261 [nurse] Yeah. These were taken at the hospital yesterday. 836 00:38:18,263 --> 00:38:21,064 [Christine] When you see Ysabel you don't look at her and go, 837 00:38:21,066 --> 00:38:22,098 oh, she has a curvy spine. 838 00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:25,035 You can't tell, you can't tell. 839 00:38:25,037 --> 00:38:29,939 It's really one of the hardest things to see is that X-ray. 840 00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:32,509 Take a look at the hardware here. 841 00:38:33,144 --> 00:38:34,344 [Christine] So, they have a model, 842 00:38:34,346 --> 00:38:36,880 so we can see like the inside of the spine 843 00:38:36,882 --> 00:38:38,782 what it looks like. 844 00:38:38,784 --> 00:38:42,118 You're tall enough and your vertebrae are big enough 845 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,454 to put two chords side by side. 846 00:38:44,456 --> 00:38:45,322 [Ysabel] Okay. 847 00:38:45,324 --> 00:38:46,923 [Christine] The traditional surgery, 848 00:38:46,925 --> 00:38:49,893 they have the patient lay on their stomach for the surgery. 849 00:38:49,895 --> 00:38:52,662 They cut open the back, open it up 850 00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:55,732 and then take rods and screw it into the spine 851 00:38:55,734 --> 00:38:56,766 to straighten the spine. 852 00:38:56,768 --> 00:38:58,902 That's the traditional scoliosis surgery. 853 00:38:58,904 --> 00:39:01,905 With Ysabel's, they're going in through the side, 854 00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:03,740 so then, they take these fibers 855 00:39:03,742 --> 00:39:06,943 and then they attach the fiber with screws to the spine. 856 00:39:06,945 --> 00:39:09,179 And then they tighten it up using the screws 857 00:39:09,181 --> 00:39:11,247 and the fibers themselves straighten the spine. 858 00:39:11,249 --> 00:39:13,616 And it's less of an invasive surgery 859 00:39:13,618 --> 00:39:15,819 because it's just accessing through the side 860 00:39:15,821 --> 00:39:17,620 versus opening up the whole back. 861 00:39:17,622 --> 00:39:19,155 Okay, bend forward. 862 00:39:19,157 --> 00:39:21,758 Good. So here's the rib coming up like this. 863 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,860 Your scantel is a little loose here. 864 00:39:23,862 --> 00:39:27,764 You can see it's riding right over the ridge of the elevated rib cage. 865 00:39:27,766 --> 00:39:29,799 Now, if I crunch you over this way 866 00:39:29,801 --> 00:39:31,134 and really crunch it, crunch it, 867 00:39:31,136 --> 00:39:33,436 you can see, that goes down pretty well. 868 00:39:33,438 --> 00:39:36,206 It's heartbreaking. The first time I saw her curve 869 00:39:36,208 --> 00:39:38,675 was heartbreaking when I showed it to all the parents. 870 00:39:38,677 --> 00:39:40,343 What her curve looks like. 871 00:39:40,345 --> 00:39:43,213 It's hard. It's hard to see an X-ray like that on your kid. 872 00:39:43,215 --> 00:39:44,781 It's real hard. 873 00:39:44,783 --> 00:39:47,016 And so the goal for tomorrow, 874 00:39:47,018 --> 00:39:49,352 since you're pretty mature bone wise... 875 00:39:49,354 --> 00:39:50,920 [Ysabel] Right. 876 00:39:50,922 --> 00:39:54,090 that we should be able to get this to around ten degrees. 877 00:39:54,092 --> 00:39:54,924 [Ysabel] Awesome. 878 00:39:54,926 --> 00:39:56,192 Yeah, ten degrees. 879 00:39:56,194 --> 00:39:57,927 I don't even know what that looks like. 880 00:39:57,929 --> 00:40:00,830 That's gonna be an X-ray. I want to see though for sure. 881 00:40:00,832 --> 00:40:02,298 That would be a great X-ray to see. 882 00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:03,533 Tomorrow's the surgery. 883 00:40:03,535 --> 00:40:05,135 So, you just want to get a good night's sleep tonight. 884 00:40:05,137 --> 00:40:06,369 Awesome! 885 00:40:06,371 --> 00:40:08,838 - Don't overeat tonight, just stay light. - Right. 886 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,707 For the first few days after surgery, 887 00:40:10,709 --> 00:40:12,375 you're going to be on a lot of pain medicines. 888 00:40:12,377 --> 00:40:15,745 This has been a long time coming and I'm just so excited 889 00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:18,047 that we can do this for her. 890 00:40:18,049 --> 00:40:21,317 But of course, I'm concerned it's a major, major surgery. 891 00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:25,155 But I'm just really, I'm just mostly excited. 892 00:40:25,157 --> 00:40:27,090 - [Christine] How are you doing? - I'm doing really good. 893 00:40:27,092 --> 00:40:30,226 I'm excited that they explained a little bit better 894 00:40:30,228 --> 00:40:32,061 because I was having a little like 895 00:40:32,063 --> 00:40:34,063 just anxiety about it, just because the surgery 896 00:40:34,065 --> 00:40:35,165 and I was still a little confused. 897 00:40:35,167 --> 00:40:36,633 But he explained it great 898 00:40:36,635 --> 00:40:39,235 and everything's cleared up and I'm so excited. 899 00:40:39,237 --> 00:40:41,337 Ysabel's really hurt that Kody's not here. 900 00:40:41,339 --> 00:40:42,405 She's really hurt. 901 00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:44,240 So Ysabel's surgery, 902 00:40:44,242 --> 00:40:46,409 so, if we have to have insurance for the surgery. 903 00:40:46,411 --> 00:40:47,977 When do they want to schedule it? 904 00:40:47,979 --> 00:40:49,078 [Christine] I think September. 905 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,181 [Kody] Does it hurt us to wait six months? 906 00:40:51,849 --> 00:40:53,416 [Christine] She's in constant pain. 907 00:40:53,418 --> 00:40:55,218 You can't come the whole time. 908 00:40:55,220 --> 00:40:57,554 Listen, I'm not flying there. 909 00:40:57,556 --> 00:41:00,023 [Ysabel] I think I'm a little upset that he can't go 910 00:41:00,025 --> 00:41:03,326 because he's always talking about how like family comes first. 911 00:41:03,328 --> 00:41:05,195 But when it comes down to it, like 912 00:41:05,896 --> 00:41:08,198 I need him there 913 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,902 and he's not putting his daughter above the fear that he has of the pandemic. 914 00:41:12,904 --> 00:41:14,170 I'm trying to do what's right for Ysabel. 915 00:41:14,172 --> 00:41:16,039 I understand, 916 00:41:16,041 --> 00:41:18,074 but we have to do what's right for the whole family, 917 00:41:18,076 --> 00:41:19,943 not just what Ysabel needs. 918 00:41:21,278 --> 00:41:24,080 [Christine] It's been so hard 919 00:41:24,082 --> 00:41:25,381 and it's taken so long. 920 00:41:25,383 --> 00:41:28,318 It's taken so long, to give her the help that she needs 921 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,019 and it's tomorrow. 922 00:41:34,158 --> 00:41:35,625 I'll feel like a good mom tomorrow. 923 00:41:35,627 --> 00:41:37,293 Not that I don't, but just... 924 00:41:38,896 --> 00:41:41,364 I'll finally be able to give her what I wanted to. 925 00:41:45,269 --> 00:41:47,303 [Kody] Next time on Sister Wives... 926 00:41:47,305 --> 00:41:51,007 We flew to New Jersey for Ysabel's scoliosis surgery. 927 00:41:51,009 --> 00:41:53,109 That Kody is not here. It's ripping her apart. 928 00:41:53,111 --> 00:41:54,177 [Ysabel] Daddy. 929 00:41:54,179 --> 00:41:55,612 [Christine] Yeah, I'll call Daddy, right now. 930 00:41:57,014 --> 00:41:58,281 [Christine] I... I know, honey. 931 00:41:58,283 --> 00:42:01,417 So I just wish we could circle around Izzy and Christine. 932 00:42:01,419 --> 00:42:03,987 It makes me realize that in plural marriage 933 00:42:03,989 --> 00:42:05,989 I don't matter. You do you. 934 00:42:05,991 --> 00:42:06,923 I'm going to do me. 935 00:42:06,925 --> 00:42:09,359 I am not the head of this family. 936 00:42:09,361 --> 00:42:11,628 And that's not the deal we made when we got married. 937 00:42:11,630 --> 00:42:13,897 If I quit, it's not going to get better. 938 00:42:13,899 --> 00:42:17,467 It's lonely. Like I live alone. 939 00:42:17,469 --> 00:42:19,068 [Christine] Everything's got to get better. 940 00:42:19,070 --> 00:42:20,970 It can only get better, honestly. 941 00:42:20,972 --> 00:42:22,071 [bleep] 942 00:42:23,140 --> 00:42:25,542 [Kody] COVID has revealed us 943 00:42:25,544 --> 00:42:28,244 and we are sad, sorry, lonely little people.