1 00:00:01,801 --> 00:00:04,636 [narrator] Previously on Sister Wives... 2 00:00:04,638 --> 00:00:07,773 So theoretically, the only way 3 00:00:07,775 --> 00:00:10,175 to actually be able to see dad 4 00:00:10,744 --> 00:00:12,211 is to get COVID. 5 00:00:12,213 --> 00:00:15,080 - It could kill me, so... - Cough in my mouth. 6 00:00:15,082 --> 00:00:18,083 I think at this point, Gabriel should choose his 7 00:00:18,418 --> 00:00:20,219 girlfriend over his dad. 8 00:00:21,688 --> 00:00:24,023 Even though you really want to be in Utah more, 9 00:00:24,025 --> 00:00:27,393 could you settle and be here on this property? 10 00:00:27,395 --> 00:00:28,927 Or is that too much to answer right now? 11 00:00:28,929 --> 00:00:30,262 [Christine] That's too much. 12 00:00:32,198 --> 00:00:34,333 We're not moving, are we? 13 00:00:35,535 --> 00:00:37,002 [sobbing] 14 00:00:37,871 --> 00:00:40,939 I'm tired of feeling like I don't matter, I'm tired of... 15 00:00:40,974 --> 00:00:42,808 not having a support. 16 00:00:42,810 --> 00:00:45,044 [Kody] I am extremely frustrated 17 00:00:45,046 --> 00:00:47,279 that now she wants to move to Utah. 18 00:00:49,716 --> 00:00:52,951 Mike, is there a better way in your head 19 00:00:52,953 --> 00:00:56,221 to subdivide this for the five lots than I have shown? 20 00:00:56,223 --> 00:00:59,024 I think that's the best way to do it, I really do. 21 00:00:59,726 --> 00:01:01,894 I wonder if Kody 22 00:01:01,896 --> 00:01:04,830 already had the conversation with Mike. 23 00:01:04,832 --> 00:01:05,931 And then Kody's like, 24 00:01:05,933 --> 00:01:10,169 "Okay Mike. can you then help sell it to my wives?" 25 00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:13,005 So, Ysabel's surgery... 26 00:01:13,007 --> 00:01:14,406 When do they wanna schedule? 27 00:01:14,408 --> 00:01:15,908 I think September is... 28 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:17,810 I don't think I'm going to be going. 29 00:01:17,812 --> 00:01:18,944 [Kody] Why right now? 30 00:01:18,946 --> 00:01:20,813 Let's let COVID pass 31 00:01:20,815 --> 00:01:22,514 and then we can all go together. 32 00:01:22,516 --> 00:01:24,083 I'm not gonna go there. 33 00:01:25,985 --> 00:01:28,687 She's in enough pain and I can't wait more. 34 00:01:28,689 --> 00:01:33,058 I know, that getting a surgery during a pandemic isn't smart. 35 00:01:33,060 --> 00:01:35,194 I know that, I'm not stupid. 36 00:02:02,856 --> 00:02:04,490 Okay, I brought... this. 37 00:02:04,492 --> 00:02:06,959 Oh, actually good. 'Cause I actually... 38 00:02:06,961 --> 00:02:08,927 I printed off some but I'm like, "I don't know how we're gonna..." So... 39 00:02:08,929 --> 00:02:11,730 I brought markers. We could write on it. 40 00:02:11,732 --> 00:02:15,134 We're all getting together to discuss 41 00:02:15,136 --> 00:02:17,336 the lots on the property. 42 00:02:19,405 --> 00:02:23,175 This conversation about how to divide up the property 43 00:02:23,177 --> 00:02:25,077 is a long time coming. 44 00:02:25,245 --> 00:02:26,278 I'm ready for this. 45 00:02:27,380 --> 00:02:30,415 [Christine] I would love to move back to Utah. 46 00:02:30,417 --> 00:02:31,783 I would love to sell the property 47 00:02:31,785 --> 00:02:35,220 and buy houses in Utah instead. 48 00:02:37,724 --> 00:02:39,725 [Robyn] We have a lot of weird things happening 49 00:02:39,727 --> 00:02:40,692 during COVID right now. 50 00:02:40,694 --> 00:02:42,895 With our family culture, it's frightening me, 51 00:02:42,897 --> 00:02:44,196 it's scaring me, it's stressing me out. 52 00:02:44,198 --> 00:02:45,430 Kody's in a dark place. 53 00:02:46,733 --> 00:02:47,332 And I just... 54 00:02:47,967 --> 00:02:50,102 hope we can get this 55 00:02:50,803 --> 00:02:52,171 damn thing figured out. 56 00:02:52,173 --> 00:02:53,372 It'd be so great. 57 00:02:54,974 --> 00:02:58,010 [Christine] I'm just gonna move forward with my mouth 58 00:02:58,012 --> 00:02:59,878 and my mind. 59 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,113 Whereas my heart's... 60 00:03:01,881 --> 00:03:03,182 not there, yet. 61 00:03:04,784 --> 00:03:05,517 [Christine] Look, I brought a map. 62 00:03:05,519 --> 00:03:06,919 [Robyn] Okay. 63 00:03:06,921 --> 00:03:08,654 [Christine] Janelle brought the safe conversation rules too. 64 00:03:08,656 --> 00:03:09,988 What do you want me to bring over. 65 00:03:10,557 --> 00:03:12,324 [Kody] So, there's always been this struggle that we've got 66 00:03:12,326 --> 00:03:14,960 with determining where everybody goes. 67 00:03:18,598 --> 00:03:20,933 From the very beginning, Janelle wanted the same spot. 68 00:03:20,935 --> 00:03:23,535 Well, Christine later on, chose that same spot. 69 00:03:23,537 --> 00:03:24,770 Just a little further back. 70 00:03:24,772 --> 00:03:26,538 Robyn doesn't want to be near the pond. 71 00:03:26,540 --> 00:03:29,208 Meri's talking about wanting to be close to Robyn. 72 00:03:30,543 --> 00:03:32,978 It's a goat rodeo of extreme proportions. 73 00:03:32,980 --> 00:03:35,881 And I want them to be happy with it. 74 00:03:35,883 --> 00:03:37,683 [Janelle] Okay, so here's a question I thought about. 75 00:03:37,685 --> 00:03:39,384 How important it is to us 76 00:03:39,386 --> 00:03:42,521 to have property that we can divide off for kids? 77 00:03:42,523 --> 00:03:46,959 Each wife and her children, that is her inheritance. 78 00:03:46,961 --> 00:03:49,628 I mean, and I know that like we are family. 79 00:03:49,630 --> 00:03:50,829 We work together, blah, blah, blah. 80 00:03:50,831 --> 00:03:52,097 But it really just keeps it... 81 00:03:52,432 --> 00:03:54,032 super cut and dry. 82 00:03:54,767 --> 00:03:57,069 Inheritance could get really super sticky. 83 00:03:57,071 --> 00:03:59,071 And hard. We have a lot of kids. 84 00:03:59,839 --> 00:04:01,940 [Janelle] You know, when we all came together 85 00:04:01,942 --> 00:04:03,742 in the very beginning, I believed everything was 86 00:04:03,744 --> 00:04:04,509 in common. 87 00:04:04,511 --> 00:04:06,545 We did our finances that way. 88 00:04:06,547 --> 00:04:07,879 And you know, in the last few years, 89 00:04:07,881 --> 00:04:10,015 there's been a lot of voices brought forward saying, 90 00:04:10,017 --> 00:04:12,384 "Look there's nothing that legally binds us together. 91 00:04:12,386 --> 00:04:13,919 So what happens if we die?" 92 00:04:13,921 --> 00:04:15,887 It's just been a change in culture 93 00:04:15,889 --> 00:04:18,023 and I don't know how I feel about it. 94 00:04:18,025 --> 00:04:19,191 It makes me feel more separate. 95 00:04:19,926 --> 00:04:22,527 So, I think this idea of each of us having 96 00:04:22,529 --> 00:04:24,062 a piece of property... 97 00:04:24,364 --> 00:04:27,399 I really don't think that's a bad idea. 98 00:04:27,401 --> 00:04:30,135 It's just, really honestly, something I've never thought about. 99 00:04:30,137 --> 00:04:31,737 'Cause we've never really put down roots 100 00:04:31,739 --> 00:04:34,172 to pass on an inheritance like that. 101 00:04:36,809 --> 00:04:38,677 Do we wanna start with like... 102 00:04:38,679 --> 00:04:40,078 [Janelle] Oh, our list of what we want? 103 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,813 Yeah, kind of where everybody is at. 104 00:04:41,815 --> 00:04:42,648 Okay, I'll start. 105 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:43,782 'Cause I've been pretty vocal. 106 00:04:43,784 --> 00:04:46,018 Like, I know I need a place for greenhouses. 107 00:04:46,020 --> 00:04:48,420 Like, I really need lot four or five 108 00:04:48,422 --> 00:04:49,988 because there are no trees. 109 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:51,723 And I intend to have greenhouses 110 00:04:51,725 --> 00:04:53,725 and trees are bad. 111 00:04:53,727 --> 00:04:55,627 Trees provide shade and you don't need shade 112 00:04:55,629 --> 00:04:57,029 if you have greenhouses. 113 00:04:57,031 --> 00:04:59,531 As long as you do the gardening as well, 114 00:04:59,533 --> 00:05:00,999 and can feed me... 115 00:05:01,001 --> 00:05:03,101 - Yes. And you guys can even... - I am on board with that. 116 00:05:03,103 --> 00:05:04,603 have room. I mean-- 117 00:05:04,605 --> 00:05:05,637 [Meri] No, I don't want to. 118 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:07,739 I tease my kids, I'm like, "No, I'm gonna 119 00:05:07,741 --> 00:05:09,941 grow out my hair, let it be all gray. 120 00:05:09,943 --> 00:05:11,943 Have tie dye skirts and... 121 00:05:11,945 --> 00:05:14,379 and I'm gonna just be that... 122 00:05:15,581 --> 00:05:16,848 witchy woman or something like that." 123 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:18,417 And my kids are like, "Whatever, mom." 124 00:05:18,419 --> 00:05:20,719 I'm like, "You just wait. You just wait." 125 00:05:20,721 --> 00:05:22,921 Everybody needs to have a sister wife 126 00:05:22,923 --> 00:05:25,057 who can provide food for her. 127 00:05:26,125 --> 00:05:27,192 [Robyn] Who's next? 128 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:28,360 You are, go ahead. 129 00:05:28,795 --> 00:05:30,362 - No. - What the-- Really? 130 00:05:30,364 --> 00:05:31,997 No, I wanna hear what everybody else has to say. 131 00:05:31,999 --> 00:05:34,232 Oh, I wanna hear what everybody else has to say first. 132 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:39,938 [giggles] Nobody wants to talk. 133 00:05:39,940 --> 00:05:41,073 We're not trusting 134 00:05:41,407 --> 00:05:44,242 each other with our feelings. 135 00:05:44,877 --> 00:05:46,878 [Kody] I struggle to understand 136 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,880 the abyss of woman's minds. 137 00:05:48,882 --> 00:05:50,282 This is just stupid. 138 00:05:51,150 --> 00:05:52,250 [Meri] It's my house. 139 00:05:52,252 --> 00:05:53,084 Oh God! 140 00:05:53,086 --> 00:05:54,519 [Meri] No, I'm ju... I'm just teasing. 141 00:05:54,521 --> 00:05:56,755 - I was just gonna say, "Robyn, go." - I know you are. I'm fine. 142 00:05:56,757 --> 00:05:58,657 - It's my house, I was gonna say, "Robyn, go." - Oh, really? 143 00:05:58,659 --> 00:06:01,426 - [all laughing] - I love it. That's fine. 144 00:06:01,428 --> 00:06:04,763 - [Robyn] Oh, God! - Okay Robyn, what do you want? 145 00:06:04,765 --> 00:06:06,531 Okay, it's actually more of what I don't want. 146 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:07,799 [Christine] Okay. 147 00:06:07,801 --> 00:06:10,902 No trees and then I also don't wanna be near the pond. 148 00:06:10,904 --> 00:06:11,870 [Janelle] Write down "No trees, no pond." 149 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:12,804 [Robyn] No trees. 150 00:06:12,806 --> 00:06:15,407 Not close to trees, not close to pond. 151 00:06:15,409 --> 00:06:17,809 [Kody] So, I got two wives who are happy with their lots. 152 00:06:17,811 --> 00:06:19,611 Janelle and Robyn like the four-acre lots. 153 00:06:19,613 --> 00:06:21,880 Lot four and lot five. 154 00:06:21,882 --> 00:06:25,484 [Christine] Robyn and Janelle, they have the bigger lots. 155 00:06:25,486 --> 00:06:29,087 The thing is is, trees are... 156 00:06:29,089 --> 00:06:32,124 an asset on any piece of property in Flagstaff. 157 00:06:32,126 --> 00:06:35,627 Trees make the property value higher. 158 00:06:35,629 --> 00:06:36,895 If you want a big lot, 159 00:06:36,897 --> 00:06:38,096 there's no trees on a big lot, 160 00:06:38,098 --> 00:06:40,198 or take a smaller lot with trees. 161 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:41,933 Okay, I'll go, Christine. 162 00:06:41,935 --> 00:06:44,636 - [Christine] Yeah! - [Meri] I want light, I want trees. 163 00:06:44,638 --> 00:06:48,039 I want it small, I don't want a huge house. 164 00:06:48,908 --> 00:06:51,843 [Meri] I am fine with taking that center piece. 165 00:06:51,845 --> 00:06:52,978 What number is it? Two? 166 00:06:52,980 --> 00:06:54,078 [Christine] All right. 167 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,814 Yeah, I'm not in love with the new configuration. 168 00:06:55,816 --> 00:06:58,850 This seems like it's very, very small. I don't like it. 169 00:06:58,852 --> 00:07:00,619 I don't wanna be that close to you. 170 00:07:00,621 --> 00:07:01,853 - [Meri] Right. - No, I-- 171 00:07:01,855 --> 00:07:03,188 I was just trying to say it nicer. 172 00:07:03,190 --> 00:07:04,489 Yeah, I wasn't going to. 173 00:07:04,491 --> 00:07:06,525 [laughs] 174 00:07:06,527 --> 00:07:08,894 [chuckles] I've known her for a lot of years. 175 00:07:08,896 --> 00:07:10,862 You know, she doesn't wanna be that close to me. 176 00:07:10,864 --> 00:07:13,064 Your lot is plenty big enough, 177 00:07:13,066 --> 00:07:14,766 that you don't have to have a house 178 00:07:14,768 --> 00:07:16,234 right next to Meri. 179 00:07:17,003 --> 00:07:18,703 Do you like that spot? The... 180 00:07:18,705 --> 00:07:19,905 Was it three? 181 00:07:19,907 --> 00:07:22,174 [Christine] Yeah, I'm great to go three, honestly. 182 00:07:23,042 --> 00:07:25,110 The most important thing to me, is the view. 183 00:07:25,112 --> 00:07:27,412 I had to let go of the hill. 184 00:07:27,414 --> 00:07:28,880 I love that hill. 185 00:07:28,882 --> 00:07:31,683 I really, really, really do. But... 186 00:07:31,685 --> 00:07:33,552 I like the trees more than the hill. 187 00:07:33,554 --> 00:07:35,187 [Janelle] Really? Do you really? 188 00:07:35,988 --> 00:07:38,023 Or are you just trying to convince yourself? 189 00:07:38,025 --> 00:07:39,524 I'm trying to convince myself, too. 190 00:07:39,526 --> 00:07:40,692 'Cause I wanna be a team player. 191 00:07:40,694 --> 00:07:41,893 Christine has talked from the very beginning 192 00:07:41,895 --> 00:07:44,763 about building a house on the hill. 193 00:07:44,765 --> 00:07:46,097 And you know, having the view of the mountain 194 00:07:46,099 --> 00:07:46,932 and the valley. 195 00:07:46,934 --> 00:07:47,999 And that's lot four. 196 00:07:48,001 --> 00:07:51,036 And lot four is the one that works ideally for me 197 00:07:51,038 --> 00:07:53,271 with the greenhouses, so there's a huge conflict. 198 00:07:55,708 --> 00:07:57,642 [Christine] So, Kody and I are struggling anyway. 199 00:07:57,644 --> 00:08:00,178 I know that he knew, I really like that lot. 200 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,380 And so, to just be told... 201 00:08:03,316 --> 00:08:04,883 nonchalantly 202 00:08:04,885 --> 00:08:06,785 that greenhouses are more important 203 00:08:06,787 --> 00:08:08,587 than where I wanted to live, 204 00:08:08,589 --> 00:08:09,387 was really hard. 205 00:08:11,090 --> 00:08:12,824 Honestly, I'm willing to just... 206 00:08:12,826 --> 00:08:15,060 I can do where the greenhouse is wherever. 207 00:08:15,062 --> 00:08:17,696 If Christine wants lot four, this should not be... 208 00:08:17,698 --> 00:08:19,030 emotional trauma. 209 00:08:19,032 --> 00:08:20,532 [Christine] Where would you wanna go? 210 00:08:20,534 --> 00:08:22,400 Like, let's just make that step. 211 00:08:22,402 --> 00:08:25,003 Robyn, what's the optimal lot that you want? 212 00:08:25,005 --> 00:08:27,873 Five is one. Four is two. 213 00:08:27,875 --> 00:08:28,807 - It's five. - Five. 214 00:08:28,809 --> 00:08:30,642 My first choice is lot five. 215 00:08:30,644 --> 00:08:33,745 Okay Meri, what's your favorite? 216 00:08:33,747 --> 00:08:35,947 - What lot do you want? Yeah. - Out of that configuration? 217 00:08:36,782 --> 00:08:38,116 - Four and a half. - No. 218 00:08:38,751 --> 00:08:40,752 [all laughing] 219 00:08:40,754 --> 00:08:42,621 [Kody] It's not a joke to me. 220 00:08:42,623 --> 00:08:44,256 Everybody thinks that this is funny. 221 00:08:44,258 --> 00:08:46,258 I don't think this is funny anymore. 222 00:08:47,593 --> 00:08:48,894 [Christine] Really, what would be your favorite lot? 223 00:08:48,896 --> 00:08:50,795 - [Meri] Two. - [Christine] Okay. 224 00:08:50,797 --> 00:08:52,397 Yeah, I'm great to go three, honestly. 225 00:08:52,865 --> 00:08:54,733 Meri's okay with lot two 226 00:08:54,735 --> 00:08:57,102 and Christine's okay with lot three. 227 00:08:57,104 --> 00:08:58,970 So now, we just need to seal this deal 228 00:08:58,972 --> 00:08:59,838 and have it in stone. 229 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,339 Are you good with five? 230 00:09:01,941 --> 00:09:03,775 If everybody is okay with that. 231 00:09:03,777 --> 00:09:04,976 [Kody] You good with four? 232 00:09:04,978 --> 00:09:07,012 - [Janelle] Yeah. - You good with two? 233 00:09:07,014 --> 00:09:08,413 - You good with three? - Yes. 234 00:09:08,415 --> 00:09:09,614 Are you good with one? 235 00:09:13,052 --> 00:09:14,953 It's like last pick. It's all right. 236 00:09:14,955 --> 00:09:17,022 [Robyn] What? The lot that's... 237 00:09:17,024 --> 00:09:18,757 yours is actually the family's. 238 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:21,126 This is not an asset that I would ever be able to sell. 239 00:09:21,128 --> 00:09:22,160 I can't sell my lot 240 00:09:22,162 --> 00:09:24,829 because the full family wants the access 241 00:09:24,831 --> 00:09:25,830 to the pond. 242 00:09:25,832 --> 00:09:28,066 You all have an asset that the day you decide 243 00:09:28,068 --> 00:09:29,734 you don't wanna be part of this family, 244 00:09:29,736 --> 00:09:31,369 you're out with your money. 245 00:09:31,904 --> 00:09:34,239 I'm not. You have your freedom. 246 00:09:35,808 --> 00:09:37,742 And on the contrary, I do not. 247 00:09:37,744 --> 00:09:39,578 If everybody's happy, 248 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:41,780 that would be the final... 249 00:09:41,782 --> 00:09:43,214 Okay, wait a minute, Mr. Logical. 250 00:09:45,418 --> 00:09:46,651 [all cheering] 251 00:09:46,752 --> 00:09:48,420 I was actually thinking, "Wow! It seems like..." 252 00:09:48,721 --> 00:09:49,955 [all cheering] 253 00:09:49,957 --> 00:09:53,892 Oh, my God! I'm so excited. I'm like... emotional. 254 00:09:53,894 --> 00:09:55,827 - [Christine] Oh, finally. - So crazy! 255 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:58,396 Yes, it's so great. It is so great. 256 00:09:58,398 --> 00:10:01,866 It's so good. It's so good. 257 00:10:01,868 --> 00:10:02,801 But we need to take a minute and realize 258 00:10:02,803 --> 00:10:04,469 that this is a huge milestone. 259 00:10:04,471 --> 00:10:06,204 All right, I'm going to go call Mike now. 260 00:10:06,206 --> 00:10:07,672 [Christine] No wait, now we do a group prayer. 261 00:10:07,674 --> 00:10:09,407 - This is a good thing. - [Robyn] Yes, please. 262 00:10:09,409 --> 00:10:10,942 - Okay? This is a good thing. - [Robyn] I'm so excited. 263 00:10:10,944 --> 00:10:13,178 Now we do a group prayer. 264 00:10:14,313 --> 00:10:16,948 I am believing it because Meri is laughing 265 00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:18,683 and she's joking and she's playing. 266 00:10:18,685 --> 00:10:20,752 And Christine is saying words like, 267 00:10:20,754 --> 00:10:23,788 "Amazing" and "Exciting" and "Great" and she's smiling. 268 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:25,924 That looks like everybody is good. 269 00:10:25,926 --> 00:10:27,492 They're really good with what we've chosen 270 00:10:27,494 --> 00:10:28,660 and we're happy. 271 00:10:28,662 --> 00:10:31,363 We are so grateful for our many blessings and for this 272 00:10:32,798 --> 00:10:34,866 meeting that we have been able to come to these 273 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:36,334 understandings. 274 00:10:38,971 --> 00:10:39,971 [Christine] I don't move on the property. 275 00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:43,041 I wanna move back to Utah, I honestly do. 276 00:10:43,043 --> 00:10:46,011 Kody and I are struggling more than ever before. 277 00:10:46,013 --> 00:10:49,614 The thought of living here on the property 278 00:10:49,616 --> 00:10:51,783 with everybody else 279 00:10:51,785 --> 00:10:54,586 and seeing him in full-functioning marriages, 280 00:10:54,588 --> 00:10:56,221 do I want that? No. 281 00:10:57,890 --> 00:10:59,357 The best that I can give today... 282 00:11:01,027 --> 00:11:03,194 [sighs] is just to pretend. 283 00:11:03,196 --> 00:11:04,996 - Amen. - [all] Amen. 284 00:11:06,032 --> 00:11:06,965 All right ladies... 285 00:11:06,967 --> 00:11:07,932 [indistinct chatter] 286 00:11:07,934 --> 00:11:09,534 I'm out of here. 287 00:11:09,536 --> 00:11:11,770 But I'm constantly concerned that they're... 288 00:11:11,772 --> 00:11:14,706 They've got a... their fingers crossed behind their backs. 289 00:11:14,708 --> 00:11:16,374 I'm happy, very happy 290 00:11:16,376 --> 00:11:18,410 to have everybody finally decided 291 00:11:18,412 --> 00:11:21,746 but there's always that card somebody wants to hold on to 292 00:11:21,748 --> 00:11:25,617 and that card is like, "I didn't get exactly what I wanted. 293 00:11:25,619 --> 00:11:28,119 You don't love me as much as I am supposed to be loved. 294 00:11:28,121 --> 00:11:29,254 You're not being fair with me with your time. 295 00:11:29,256 --> 00:11:30,755 You're not doing this. 296 00:11:30,757 --> 00:11:33,725 You know, our children and our problem children are your fault." 297 00:11:33,727 --> 00:11:35,860 First of all, it's heartbreaking 298 00:11:35,862 --> 00:11:37,862 and it's psychically damaging for me 299 00:11:37,864 --> 00:11:39,030 as a husband, 300 00:11:39,032 --> 00:11:41,833 who simply just wants a family that's happy. 301 00:11:41,835 --> 00:11:44,703 That's satisfied in life. That is... 302 00:11:44,705 --> 00:11:47,939 That is okay with the choices that they have made. 303 00:11:52,945 --> 00:11:54,379 [Janelle] I'm super-excited. 304 00:11:57,316 --> 00:11:59,050 Good, you can see it everybody? 305 00:11:59,052 --> 00:12:03,054 I have a feeling. I have a feeling I know what this is about. 306 00:12:03,989 --> 00:12:05,857 [all cheering] 307 00:12:05,924 --> 00:12:07,392 Oh, my goodness! 308 00:12:12,998 --> 00:12:14,666 [Janelle] Oh, do we need chairs? 309 00:12:14,668 --> 00:12:16,968 - [Gabriel] I brought some for us. - Oh, good. 310 00:12:17,937 --> 00:12:20,071 [Christine] So, we have almost the whole family 311 00:12:20,073 --> 00:12:21,906 together today. 312 00:12:21,974 --> 00:12:23,842 Via electronic devices. 313 00:12:23,844 --> 00:12:26,811 For this news about the property 314 00:12:26,813 --> 00:12:30,048 but I'm not going to give them news about the property. 315 00:12:30,050 --> 00:12:30,915 We have a surprise. 316 00:12:30,917 --> 00:12:32,383 [Christine] Should I just move the table? 317 00:12:32,385 --> 00:12:34,753 - [Robyn] Yeah, I think we should move the table. - [Gabriel] Heck yeah. 318 00:12:34,755 --> 00:12:36,821 [Janelle] This is our second time getting together in a... 319 00:12:36,823 --> 00:12:38,823 relatively short period of time 320 00:12:38,825 --> 00:12:41,726 compared to the rest of the year that we spent apart. 321 00:12:41,728 --> 00:12:44,062 So, here we go. Another family gathering. 322 00:12:44,064 --> 00:12:45,630 It's making me very happy. 323 00:12:45,632 --> 00:12:47,131 [Meri] Started grabing chairs. 324 00:12:47,133 --> 00:12:48,800 -[Kody] Grab the chairs. Everybody's got a chair then? -Just grab chairs! 325 00:12:48,802 --> 00:12:50,235 [Robyn] Christine... 326 00:12:50,903 --> 00:12:54,139 texted us and said she wants to... 327 00:12:54,141 --> 00:12:56,407 talk to us all about the property 328 00:12:56,409 --> 00:12:58,810 and have the kids involved and... 329 00:12:58,812 --> 00:13:01,880 Frankly, I don't think that's a great idea. 330 00:13:01,882 --> 00:13:03,414 They talk over each other. 331 00:13:04,083 --> 00:13:06,918 They have a huge opinion. 332 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,753 I don't know. Should be fun. 333 00:13:08,755 --> 00:13:11,022 [Christine] We're good. We're gonna start. 334 00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:12,757 Okay, thank you for coming. I'm sorry it took so long. 335 00:13:12,759 --> 00:13:14,425 Country wifi is awesome. 336 00:13:15,127 --> 00:13:17,295 So, okay. I'm super-excited. 337 00:13:19,665 --> 00:13:21,366 [kids cheer] 338 00:13:22,835 --> 00:13:24,169 [Christine] Good, you can see it everybody? 339 00:13:24,171 --> 00:13:25,069 Okay, say "Hi." 340 00:13:25,071 --> 00:13:27,405 [all] Hi! 341 00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:28,740 [Kody] Mykelti's my daughter. 342 00:13:28,774 --> 00:13:30,809 And Tony is my son-in-law. 343 00:13:30,811 --> 00:13:33,611 They got married about four, little over four years ago. 344 00:13:33,613 --> 00:13:35,146 And they live in Saint George, Utah. 345 00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:37,148 They're a great couple. They're still... 346 00:13:37,516 --> 00:13:39,818 crazy, full of fun. 347 00:13:39,820 --> 00:13:42,921 Exciting to be around. They bring the party. 348 00:13:42,923 --> 00:13:46,224 And I... I just love to visit them. 349 00:13:46,892 --> 00:13:48,760 I have a feeling, I have a feeling 350 00:13:48,762 --> 00:13:50,428 I know what this is about. 351 00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:56,267 Tony and I have something to tell you. 352 00:13:56,769 --> 00:14:00,905 - [all cheering] - [Mykelti] We're pregnant. 353 00:14:00,907 --> 00:14:03,975 - [Janelle] Oh, my God, yeah! - [Kody] I saw that coming. 354 00:14:04,977 --> 00:14:06,711 [high-pitched] Yes! 355 00:14:06,713 --> 00:14:09,414 Mykelti and Tony are having a baby! 356 00:14:09,416 --> 00:14:13,651 [indistinct chatter] 357 00:14:13,653 --> 00:14:16,921 [Christine] Very excited, this will be our third grandchild. 358 00:14:16,923 --> 00:14:19,757 Mykelti is having a baby. I'm super-excited. 359 00:14:19,759 --> 00:14:22,093 And her being my biological daughter, 360 00:14:22,095 --> 00:14:24,262 maybe you'd think that it would... 361 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:26,631 mean something different. 362 00:14:26,633 --> 00:14:28,833 But it's not, it's like Maddie has... 363 00:14:28,835 --> 00:14:31,703 two grandkids, Axle and Evie are my grandkids. 364 00:14:31,705 --> 00:14:34,005 And Mykelti is having another one of my grandkids. 365 00:14:34,007 --> 00:14:35,540 You know, it's super-exciting. 366 00:14:35,542 --> 00:14:37,041 I'm really looking forward to it. 367 00:14:37,043 --> 00:14:39,744 As a mom, in a plural family, my kids are my kids, 368 00:14:39,746 --> 00:14:42,714 even though all the kids are our kids. 369 00:14:42,716 --> 00:14:45,650 But the grandkids are just straight up, our grandkids. 370 00:14:45,652 --> 00:14:47,285 That's just what it come down to. 371 00:14:50,256 --> 00:14:53,424 [Meri] This is fun, this is exciting. 372 00:14:53,426 --> 00:14:55,727 [Robyn] I was so excited when I found out that Maddie and Caleb 373 00:14:55,729 --> 00:14:58,730 were pregnant the first time and then the second time. 374 00:14:58,732 --> 00:15:01,399 And I felt just as excited with Mykelti... 375 00:15:02,401 --> 00:15:03,801 announcing her pregnancy. 376 00:15:03,869 --> 00:15:05,837 For me, I want 377 00:15:05,839 --> 00:15:09,140 so much to just be a part of these kids lives. 378 00:15:09,142 --> 00:15:11,743 Okay, so dad was wondering... 379 00:15:11,745 --> 00:15:13,244 Okay, one at a time... 380 00:15:13,246 --> 00:15:14,846 First of all, did you guys notice, Janelle was crying? 381 00:15:14,848 --> 00:15:16,915 [giggles] 382 00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:19,284 I'm just as excited about this grand baby 383 00:15:19,985 --> 00:15:21,152 as I was the others. 384 00:15:22,087 --> 00:15:22,720 Hi! 385 00:15:22,722 --> 00:15:23,755 [Mykelti] Hi, dad. 386 00:15:23,757 --> 00:15:25,223 [Kody] Congratulations. 387 00:15:26,792 --> 00:15:28,059 She's pregnant. 388 00:15:29,962 --> 00:15:31,629 - I got little baby shoes. - Oh, they're... 389 00:15:31,631 --> 00:15:32,563 Yeah! 390 00:15:32,565 --> 00:15:35,867 Are the shoes gender specific or not? 391 00:15:35,869 --> 00:15:38,303 [Christine] Are the shoes gender spec-- Yeah. 392 00:15:38,305 --> 00:15:40,238 [Mykelti] We think it's gonna be a girl. 393 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,573 That's what I... I feel like it's a girl. 394 00:15:42,575 --> 00:15:45,910 So, we think it's a girl but they're technically unisex shoes 395 00:15:45,912 --> 00:15:47,412 because they match the kind of shoes 396 00:15:47,414 --> 00:15:48,813 Tony and I wear a lot. 397 00:15:48,815 --> 00:15:51,115 [Christine] That is so cute! 398 00:15:51,383 --> 00:15:52,650 [Mykelti] Technically, unisex. 399 00:15:52,652 --> 00:15:54,953 We think it's a girl but we don't actually know, yet. 400 00:15:54,955 --> 00:15:57,088 I think that my grandma name will probably just be Oma 401 00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:58,957 with all of the kids. 402 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:00,425 So, Mykelti's gonna have, 403 00:16:00,427 --> 00:16:03,061 Maria, Tony's mom, is gonna be Abuela. 404 00:16:03,063 --> 00:16:04,862 And then, I'm gonna be Oma 405 00:16:04,864 --> 00:16:06,798 and I don't know, we'll just see what the other... 406 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,999 grandma's are. 407 00:16:08,001 --> 00:16:10,802 I came up with Bubby because I know it's a Czechoslovakian 408 00:16:10,804 --> 00:16:11,836 name for grandma. 409 00:16:11,838 --> 00:16:12,971 So, I'm Bubby. 410 00:16:13,739 --> 00:16:15,740 See, I'm... I'm so boring. 411 00:16:15,742 --> 00:16:17,775 My grandma name is really just Grandma. 412 00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:20,945 I don't really have an assigned grandma name. 413 00:16:21,613 --> 00:16:23,181 [Christine] Maddie wants to know about names. 414 00:16:23,183 --> 00:16:24,949 Have you guys thought of names? 415 00:16:24,951 --> 00:16:28,853 [Mykelti] Yes, if it's a girl, it's Avalon Marie Padron 416 00:16:28,855 --> 00:16:31,756 and if it's a boy, it's Antonio 417 00:16:31,758 --> 00:16:32,724 something-or-other Padron. 418 00:16:32,726 --> 00:16:34,425 [Christine giggles] 419 00:16:34,427 --> 00:16:36,794 [Meri] I'm holding them to that something or other. 420 00:16:36,796 --> 00:16:38,763 - [Christine] Yeah... - [Mykelti] Antonio the Third. 421 00:16:38,765 --> 00:16:40,331 [Christine] Everyone super-excited. 422 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,600 [woman 1] I am so excited. 423 00:16:42,602 --> 00:16:44,736 [indistinct chatter] 424 00:16:44,738 --> 00:16:47,905 All right, since we can only do this organized, 425 00:16:47,907 --> 00:16:49,607 let's give three cheers, okay? 426 00:16:49,609 --> 00:16:51,843 - Hip hip, hooray! - [all screaming] Hooray! 427 00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:53,878 - Hip hip, hooray! - [all screaming] Hooray! 428 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,047 - Hip hip, hooray! - [all screaming] Hooray! 429 00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:58,282 [all cheering] 430 00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:00,818 [Mykelti] Thanks guys, we love you! 431 00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:01,919 [Robyn] Wait, when is she due? 432 00:17:01,921 --> 00:17:04,922 Wait, when are you due? We didn't get that. 433 00:17:04,924 --> 00:17:06,791 [Mykelti] We're due at the end of March. 434 00:17:06,793 --> 00:17:07,859 [all cheering] 435 00:17:07,861 --> 00:17:10,795 [indistinct cheering] 436 00:17:10,797 --> 00:17:12,764 All I need to do, is just hold the baby. 437 00:17:12,766 --> 00:17:14,465 I don't care if it's a boy or a girl 438 00:17:14,467 --> 00:17:16,868 or really what its name is, to be completely honest... 439 00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:19,737 All I care about is spending time with this little thing. 440 00:17:19,739 --> 00:17:21,105 [Christine] All right, love you guys. 441 00:17:21,107 --> 00:17:24,108 - Congratulations! - Love you, congratulations! 442 00:17:24,110 --> 00:17:26,210 [indistinct cheering] 443 00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:28,046 We love you! 444 00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:30,815 [Kody] So... 445 00:17:30,817 --> 00:17:33,684 if you stand right here, 446 00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:35,153 this can be like your deck. 447 00:17:35,421 --> 00:17:37,455 [Kody] I need her to just go, 448 00:17:37,457 --> 00:17:40,758 "Listen, I get it. It doesn't work for us to move to Utah." 449 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,727 [Christine] This is not a safe conversation anymore. 450 00:17:42,729 --> 00:17:44,128 I'm sorry, it's just not. 451 00:17:45,864 --> 00:17:48,032 I'm not gonna talk to you. 452 00:18:16,962 --> 00:18:21,032 Cody just said he wanted to chat here... 453 00:18:21,433 --> 00:18:24,068 on the property, so I don't know. 454 00:18:27,739 --> 00:18:29,674 [Kody] I'm just hoping that I can convince Christine 455 00:18:29,676 --> 00:18:32,009 that living here in this spot 456 00:18:32,011 --> 00:18:35,213 will be better than any place you could be in Utah. 457 00:18:35,215 --> 00:18:37,248 - Hi! So... - [Christine] Hey! 458 00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:38,349 If... 459 00:18:39,818 --> 00:18:41,152 you stand right here, 460 00:18:41,154 --> 00:18:43,054 this can be, like your deck. 461 00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:48,493 [Christine] Cody and I have been struggling for a while. 462 00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:49,861 We want different things in our relationship. 463 00:18:49,863 --> 00:18:52,096 We want a different kind of relationship. 464 00:18:53,098 --> 00:18:54,132 Have you been waiting for a few minutes? 465 00:18:54,134 --> 00:18:54,932 Sorry, I'm late. 466 00:18:54,934 --> 00:18:56,367 No, it's all right. You're fine. 467 00:18:57,903 --> 00:18:59,770 So, I don't even wanna talk to him right now, 468 00:18:59,772 --> 00:19:01,105 to be honest with you. 469 00:19:02,841 --> 00:19:06,110 What I wanted to meet with you, not because... 470 00:19:06,112 --> 00:19:07,945 I... You know, this great idea here 471 00:19:07,947 --> 00:19:10,281 because we're checking out this plot but it's not about this. 472 00:19:10,749 --> 00:19:11,349 Oh! 473 00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:13,751 Last time we talked about, 474 00:19:13,753 --> 00:19:15,820 when you talked about moving to Utah, 475 00:19:15,822 --> 00:19:17,155 I got really, really giddy. 476 00:19:17,856 --> 00:19:19,790 I just got giddy. 477 00:19:19,792 --> 00:19:21,292 When Cody and I were talking about it, 478 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,627 just the two of us, 479 00:19:22,629 --> 00:19:24,896 he was giddy, he was excited. 480 00:19:24,898 --> 00:19:27,298 When we got onto the property and I brought it up, 481 00:19:27,432 --> 00:19:28,699 I thought that... 482 00:19:28,967 --> 00:19:31,903 we were gonna be more of like a team or something, you know? 483 00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:33,337 I wanna move back. 484 00:19:34,773 --> 00:19:36,107 [Kody] Did you think that everybody else 485 00:19:36,109 --> 00:19:38,976 was gonna feel the same way about moving back? 486 00:19:44,983 --> 00:19:46,184 It was terrible. 487 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:49,287 I felt just so betrayed. 488 00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:50,988 [sobbing] 489 00:19:52,257 --> 00:19:53,257 [Kody] So, when we met last, 490 00:19:53,259 --> 00:19:56,794 I felt like I was cutting you off too harshly. 491 00:19:56,796 --> 00:19:59,864 I was like, "No, that will never happen, we're not moving back to Utah." 492 00:19:59,866 --> 00:20:01,232 I was trying to be stoic. 493 00:20:03,835 --> 00:20:04,969 And I feel bad. 494 00:20:04,971 --> 00:20:07,104 I'm... I wanna say, I'm sorry. 495 00:20:07,673 --> 00:20:09,407 Thank you, it was hard to hear. 496 00:20:10,842 --> 00:20:13,878 What is the stupid word he's using? Stoic? 497 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,146 Bull [bleep], he was an ass. 498 00:20:15,814 --> 00:20:17,715 [sighs] 499 00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:20,218 Stoic? Whatever, you wish you were stoic. 500 00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:26,624 I don't wanna be here. 501 00:20:26,626 --> 00:20:30,595 I don't wanna talk to him, I don't trust a word. There. 502 00:20:30,597 --> 00:20:33,130 It's 'cause I don't trust a word that's coming out of his mouth. 503 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,201 I don't believe him that he's sorry. 504 00:20:39,771 --> 00:20:41,939 I want to hear what everybody had to say. 505 00:20:44,209 --> 00:20:44,976 What I want to be careful about, 506 00:20:44,978 --> 00:20:45,977 is I don't want you to feel like 507 00:20:45,979 --> 00:20:48,379 your sister wives are against you. 508 00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:52,683 I don't wanna go through the whole process 509 00:20:52,685 --> 00:20:55,686 of saying, Meri will go anywhere I choose to go. 510 00:20:55,688 --> 00:20:58,389 Janelle refuses to leave Flagstaff. 511 00:20:58,391 --> 00:21:01,826 And Robyn says, "I would love to live in Utah but that's 512 00:21:01,828 --> 00:21:05,229 impossible for me to feel like my children will be safe. 513 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,301 I have talked to everybody about it. 514 00:21:12,404 --> 00:21:13,804 And... and every... 515 00:21:13,806 --> 00:21:16,340 There's mixed emotions about it altogether. 516 00:21:17,576 --> 00:21:19,744 - And so... - About moving? 517 00:21:19,746 --> 00:21:22,013 I really would rather not have... 518 00:21:22,015 --> 00:21:23,881 tell you where everybody's at 519 00:21:23,883 --> 00:21:26,050 and just let you sort of figure... 520 00:21:26,618 --> 00:21:28,019 where you're at. 521 00:21:29,821 --> 00:21:31,856 So, why is he going behind my back or whatever? 522 00:21:31,858 --> 00:21:33,257 Why is he... 523 00:21:33,259 --> 00:21:34,859 going and having these conversations again? 524 00:21:34,861 --> 00:21:37,395 He... I thought he made himself perfectly clear. 525 00:21:37,397 --> 00:21:38,796 Of course, that was maybe just one part of him. 526 00:21:38,798 --> 00:21:39,797 I have no idea. 527 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:43,167 I don't know what part of him to believe. 528 00:21:43,869 --> 00:21:45,002 I would move to Utah in a heartbeat. 529 00:21:45,004 --> 00:21:46,137 Are you kidding me? 530 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:48,739 Is it on the table still? 531 00:21:48,741 --> 00:21:51,876 No, it's not on the table, I... 532 00:21:51,878 --> 00:21:54,845 The whole reason, I didn't wanna slam her again. 533 00:21:54,847 --> 00:21:56,347 Listen, this is a woman 534 00:21:56,349 --> 00:21:58,749 who hasn't heard us all say no. 535 00:21:58,751 --> 00:22:01,919 No, we're not moving to Utah but I wanna be subtle about it 536 00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:03,154 and how do you do that when she's saying, 537 00:22:03,156 --> 00:22:04,955 "Is it still on the table?" 538 00:22:05,057 --> 00:22:06,157 Not really. 539 00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:07,391 No... 540 00:22:07,393 --> 00:22:09,627 I don't know if I could ride this emotional roller-coaster, 541 00:22:09,629 --> 00:22:11,562 okay? I don't... 542 00:22:11,564 --> 00:22:14,265 - I cannot ride this emotional roller-coaster. - Christine... 543 00:22:14,267 --> 00:22:16,934 Christine's not very warm. [giggles] 544 00:22:16,936 --> 00:22:19,136 She's still bugged. 545 00:22:19,371 --> 00:22:20,338 I can tell. 546 00:22:23,608 --> 00:22:26,811 What I'm trying to do here, is see if you... 547 00:22:26,813 --> 00:22:31,849 see better reasons to stay than to go. 548 00:22:31,851 --> 00:22:34,919 So, you don't feel trapped by the rest of the family's decisions. 549 00:22:36,688 --> 00:22:38,289 Does he want me to say, 550 00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:40,958 "I am fine with living here 551 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,194 and I don't want to move back to Utah"? 552 00:22:43,196 --> 00:22:43,694 Is that what he's saying? 553 00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:45,896 I need her to just go, 554 00:22:45,898 --> 00:22:48,999 "Listen, I get it. It doesn't work for us to move to Utah." 555 00:22:49,001 --> 00:22:51,001 I've got a lot of family that lives there 556 00:22:51,003 --> 00:22:52,403 and it just feels like home. 557 00:22:52,405 --> 00:22:54,171 We don't have a community here. 558 00:22:55,741 --> 00:22:57,942 I don't know how to work this out. 559 00:23:00,145 --> 00:23:01,812 There's other reasons that I don't really wanna... 560 00:23:01,814 --> 00:23:03,647 discuss why... 561 00:23:03,649 --> 00:23:04,749 I don't really want to end up here 562 00:23:04,751 --> 00:23:06,117 and why I'd rather go back. 563 00:23:07,953 --> 00:23:09,954 But I don't really wanna... I'm... 564 00:23:11,857 --> 00:23:12,923 go down that road, really. 565 00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:18,662 I feel like I'm constantly dealing with a situation 566 00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:20,965 with Christine, where I can't make her happy. 567 00:23:20,967 --> 00:23:23,401 She won't be happy with anything. 568 00:23:23,403 --> 00:23:25,403 And now, I'm starting to wonder 569 00:23:25,405 --> 00:23:26,404 what's going on? 570 00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:31,409 Well, then what do we do? 571 00:23:31,877 --> 00:23:32,676 Well... 572 00:23:33,812 --> 00:23:34,945 If we start building homes here, 573 00:23:34,947 --> 00:23:36,414 are you... 574 00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:38,015 I'm not ready to build mine, yet. 575 00:23:42,387 --> 00:23:45,256 Why would I want to live 576 00:23:45,857 --> 00:23:48,058 on the same property 577 00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:50,428 with a dysfunctional marriage? 578 00:23:51,563 --> 00:23:53,931 Where right over there, 579 00:23:53,933 --> 00:23:56,233 he's got a full functioning marriage? 580 00:23:58,770 --> 00:24:01,005 Who in their right mind 581 00:24:01,007 --> 00:24:04,375 would ever want to live like that? 582 00:24:07,646 --> 00:24:09,146 [Kody] Maybe she just doesn't want to be 583 00:24:09,148 --> 00:24:10,414 near the other sister wives. 584 00:24:10,416 --> 00:24:12,016 I don't know. 585 00:24:12,018 --> 00:24:13,784 She wasn't happy in Lehigh and she wasn't... 586 00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:16,020 happy in Las Vegas. 587 00:24:16,022 --> 00:24:18,689 If she's not gonna be happy if we don't move to Utah, 588 00:24:18,691 --> 00:24:19,590 what can I do? 589 00:24:21,059 --> 00:24:23,027 It's not fair to the rest of the family. 590 00:24:30,836 --> 00:24:32,770 [Christine] I just thought that mine and Kody's relationship 591 00:24:32,772 --> 00:24:35,306 would get better in Vegas. 592 00:24:36,107 --> 00:24:37,875 Once we got to the cull de sac. 593 00:24:37,877 --> 00:24:39,143 And it didn't. 594 00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:41,979 If mine and Kody's relationship were better, 595 00:24:42,714 --> 00:24:44,715 and we both... 596 00:24:44,717 --> 00:24:46,851 wanted the same type of a relationship, 597 00:24:46,853 --> 00:24:48,986 that's a full marriage, 598 00:24:49,855 --> 00:24:54,258 I could handle staying here, a lot easier. 599 00:24:54,260 --> 00:24:56,861 Tell me more, Christine about this feeling about 600 00:24:56,863 --> 00:24:58,762 about moving to Utah. 601 00:24:58,764 --> 00:25:00,130 Just tell me more about... 602 00:25:03,535 --> 00:25:04,435 I don't-- No, 603 00:25:04,703 --> 00:25:06,403 this is not a safe conversation anymore. 604 00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:07,872 I'm sorry, it's just not. 605 00:25:07,874 --> 00:25:10,407 - Why not? - 'Cause it's not, 'cause you're not safe. 606 00:25:10,409 --> 00:25:12,076 'Cause I'm not safe? 607 00:25:20,852 --> 00:25:21,952 [Kody] Okay. 608 00:25:23,889 --> 00:25:25,956 I'm not gonna talk to you. 609 00:25:40,739 --> 00:25:42,806 What did I say that was unsafe? 610 00:25:42,808 --> 00:25:48,012 [Christine sobbing] 611 00:25:52,651 --> 00:25:54,919 Look, he's not even my friend right now. 612 00:25:54,921 --> 00:25:57,154 Why would I talk to him about things 613 00:25:57,156 --> 00:25:59,990 that are close to my heart if he's not even my friend? 614 00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:03,327 [softly] I just... 615 00:26:06,932 --> 00:26:08,165 I think we just want... 616 00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:23,714 [Kody] She walked off 617 00:26:23,716 --> 00:26:26,250 and I felt the conversation just was starting. 618 00:26:28,353 --> 00:26:30,154 [Christine] Feels like a bit of a cross roads. 619 00:26:30,156 --> 00:26:31,355 I don't know what to do. 620 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,160 [sobbing] 621 00:26:53,945 --> 00:26:55,579 [Kody] Christine and Ysabel are leaving very soon 622 00:26:55,581 --> 00:26:57,448 for Ysabel's surgery. 623 00:26:57,450 --> 00:27:00,050 They'll come in four inches and they'll attach a screw to her spine. 624 00:27:00,052 --> 00:27:02,353 [Christine] Kody's not gonna see the kids, for like... 625 00:27:02,854 --> 00:27:05,322 eight weeks or so. 626 00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:07,558 I think us, being separated for a while 627 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,294 for this month might be good. 628 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:17,668 [Kody] So yesterday, Christine and I were visiting. 629 00:27:17,670 --> 00:27:19,403 Nothing was discussed with Cristine. 630 00:27:19,405 --> 00:27:21,972 He just walked off, I don't know what the problem was. 631 00:27:23,508 --> 00:27:26,910 I don't know why, I don't know what's going on. 632 00:27:26,912 --> 00:27:29,847 I'm sitting here going... With a lot of questions, 633 00:27:29,849 --> 00:27:32,383 but I'm not gonna confront her with it right now 634 00:27:32,385 --> 00:27:35,519 because tomorrow, Ysabel is leaving for New Jersey. 635 00:27:35,521 --> 00:27:36,553 They're leaving. 636 00:27:36,555 --> 00:27:39,189 I'm not gonna sit and get confrontational right now. 637 00:27:42,594 --> 00:27:45,429 [Christine] I need to talk to all the adults about Ysabel's surgery. 638 00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:48,599 What happens between Kody and I, that's just separate. 639 00:27:48,601 --> 00:27:50,267 I'm gonna compartmentalize. 640 00:27:52,837 --> 00:27:54,505 We found out that Ysabel has scoliosis 641 00:27:54,507 --> 00:27:56,040 when she was 14. 642 00:27:58,543 --> 00:28:00,110 We have doctors, we've been seeing. 643 00:28:00,112 --> 00:28:01,178 We've been seeing chiropractors. 644 00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:02,579 We've been seeing and doing everything possible 645 00:28:02,581 --> 00:28:04,415 but about nine months ago, 646 00:28:04,417 --> 00:28:06,617 we found out that her curve has progressed 647 00:28:06,619 --> 00:28:10,120 to the point where, she has to get surgery. 648 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:16,894 [Kody] Christine has invited me and the other moms over 649 00:28:16,896 --> 00:28:18,929 to essentially explain what their experience... 650 00:28:18,931 --> 00:28:22,132 Or like the roadmap, sort of mapping out to us. 651 00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:23,901 What their experience is gonna be like 652 00:28:23,903 --> 00:28:25,135 for the next six weeks. 653 00:28:27,305 --> 00:28:29,807 We as a family have... 654 00:28:29,809 --> 00:28:33,944 kind of fallen off the wagon as far as the family goes. 655 00:28:33,946 --> 00:28:35,713 - This looks all formal. - [Christine] Does it? 656 00:28:35,715 --> 00:28:37,047 It's not supposed to. 657 00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:38,882 [Kody] We're essentially socially distancing 658 00:28:38,884 --> 00:28:41,085 from each other. 659 00:28:41,087 --> 00:28:42,986 But there has been some travel in the family 660 00:28:42,988 --> 00:28:46,490 and Christine and Ysabel have been travelling 661 00:28:46,492 --> 00:28:47,758 quite a bit, this summer. 662 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,762 So, we're currently staying socially distanced. 663 00:28:51,764 --> 00:28:54,465 - [Meri chuckling] Yes, yes. - [Christine] See how we're closer? 664 00:28:54,467 --> 00:28:55,566 [Janelle] So, I have observed, 665 00:28:55,568 --> 00:28:58,635 the differences in opinions about COVID. 666 00:28:58,637 --> 00:29:01,805 They put a lot of pressure on the relationships. 667 00:29:01,807 --> 00:29:03,841 When we're not getting together as a family, 668 00:29:03,843 --> 00:29:05,309 there's a lot of time 669 00:29:05,643 --> 00:29:06,844 to be busy in my head, 670 00:29:06,846 --> 00:29:08,979 imagining things my sister wives are doing 671 00:29:08,981 --> 00:29:11,482 or imagining things that Kody is saying or doing 672 00:29:11,484 --> 00:29:14,551 or making up stories in my head 673 00:29:14,553 --> 00:29:17,988 and I just think that's really dangerous for plural relationships. 674 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:19,690 And I suspect, that's probably happening 675 00:29:19,692 --> 00:29:22,025 in all the relationships. 676 00:29:22,027 --> 00:29:23,460 [Christine] Okay, I looked up the surgery. 677 00:29:23,462 --> 00:29:26,130 So, I thought I'd explain to you guys a little bit more what's happening. 678 00:29:26,132 --> 00:29:27,231 So, this is Ysabel's spine. 679 00:29:27,832 --> 00:29:28,465 Right here. See that? 680 00:29:28,467 --> 00:29:30,134 Beautiful spine. 681 00:29:30,136 --> 00:29:31,802 They'll come in four inches and they attach a screw 682 00:29:31,804 --> 00:29:33,604 to her spine's screw. 683 00:29:33,606 --> 00:29:35,739 Screw, screw, screw, screw, screw. 684 00:29:35,741 --> 00:29:37,708 Then they attach these fibers 685 00:29:37,710 --> 00:29:40,110 and then they tighten the screws. 686 00:29:40,112 --> 00:29:42,679 - [Janelle] Oh wow! - And that's how it works. 687 00:29:42,681 --> 00:29:43,480 She's gonna be taller. 688 00:29:43,482 --> 00:29:44,615 [Ysabel] Two or three inches. 689 00:29:44,617 --> 00:29:46,416 - [Kody] They're saying two inches taller? - Yeah. 690 00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:47,718 - I don't believe that at all. - Nope. 691 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,753 Nope. Yeah, isn't that crazy? 692 00:29:49,755 --> 00:29:52,856 We want to see photos of this and this. 693 00:29:52,858 --> 00:29:53,791 [Kody] This will be very interesting 694 00:29:53,793 --> 00:29:55,793 if she actually does get-- 695 00:29:55,795 --> 00:29:57,861 I couldn't believe that she'd get more than an inch taller. 696 00:29:57,863 --> 00:29:59,997 [Ysabel] He said two or three. 697 00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:05,636 Ysabel... Okay, Ysabel does wanna have no pain 698 00:30:05,638 --> 00:30:07,404 at the end of surgery 699 00:30:07,406 --> 00:30:10,741 but really, what she wants in her like... 700 00:30:10,743 --> 00:30:12,976 hidden agenda is to be six feet tall. 701 00:30:12,978 --> 00:30:14,144 Right now, she's like... 702 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,079 5'10". 703 00:30:16,081 --> 00:30:16,947 Are you kidding? 704 00:30:16,949 --> 00:30:19,983 [indistinct chatter] 705 00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:22,686 Because of the curve, I mean, he's a doctor. 706 00:30:22,688 --> 00:30:23,821 He kinda... 707 00:30:23,823 --> 00:30:25,088 Yeah well, no you can do the math on what it's gonna 708 00:30:25,090 --> 00:30:25,889 do once it straighten out. 709 00:30:25,891 --> 00:30:27,624 [Meri] That's my point. 710 00:30:27,626 --> 00:30:31,161 No way! The doctor's saying two to three? 711 00:30:31,163 --> 00:30:34,398 That would actually be really fun and really cool. 712 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,866 I think he's just embarrassed 713 00:30:35,868 --> 00:30:37,568 that his daughter's gonna be taller than him. 714 00:30:37,570 --> 00:30:39,036 Right now, I'm not taller than him 715 00:30:39,038 --> 00:30:41,405 but after the surgery, if I go two to three inches, 716 00:30:41,407 --> 00:30:42,806 I definitely will be. 717 00:30:42,808 --> 00:30:44,708 [Robyn] After you get the surgery, like... 718 00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:46,743 What are you looking forward to doing the most? 719 00:30:46,745 --> 00:30:49,713 Now that you're... Once your spine is straight. 720 00:30:49,715 --> 00:30:52,749 Being more pain free. It's like driving without pain. 721 00:30:52,751 --> 00:30:53,817 Waking up without pain, 722 00:30:53,819 --> 00:30:56,820 going to bed, being able to breathe without pain. 723 00:30:56,822 --> 00:30:58,956 - [Robyn] She's in pain every day now. - [Christine] Yeah. 724 00:30:58,958 --> 00:31:02,826 It's not really a dull ache but it's like a sharp pain. 725 00:31:02,828 --> 00:31:04,928 Like, every time I move kind of, 726 00:31:04,930 --> 00:31:07,464 I get like sharp pains down my back. 727 00:31:07,466 --> 00:31:09,666 Savannah told me how much like you would hurt 728 00:31:09,668 --> 00:31:11,969 - on the way to school and stuff. - Yeah, yeah. 729 00:31:11,971 --> 00:31:15,873 Just because I'm not Ysabel's biological mother, 730 00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:18,108 doesn't mean that... 731 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:21,979 you know, it makes me any less sad 732 00:31:21,981 --> 00:31:23,680 that she's in pain. 733 00:31:23,682 --> 00:31:25,682 I feel as empathic to Ysabel's pain 734 00:31:25,684 --> 00:31:27,084 as I would my own kids' pain. 735 00:31:27,086 --> 00:31:29,019 When I see Ysabel in pain, I just... 736 00:31:29,021 --> 00:31:30,888 want to go mommy her. 737 00:31:30,890 --> 00:31:34,725 Ysabel's like the strongest, most amazing kid I know. 738 00:31:34,727 --> 00:31:39,429 She has been in constant pain for so long. 739 00:31:39,431 --> 00:31:41,798 [Ysabel] I think it'll be easier on my mom, because... 740 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,033 I think it's been really hard on her 741 00:31:43,035 --> 00:31:46,036 just seeing her kid go through so much pain. 742 00:31:46,871 --> 00:31:47,938 [Christine] Late and night, 743 00:31:48,406 --> 00:31:50,407 when I am checking in with am I a good mom... 744 00:31:52,510 --> 00:31:54,678 On that part, I fell a little bit sometimes. 745 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,048 I just feel partially responsible for her pain. 746 00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:02,586 There's nothing that I can do to help Ysabel. 747 00:32:02,588 --> 00:32:04,521 Except to get her this surgery. 748 00:32:04,523 --> 00:32:06,657 We'll be in the intensive care unit the entire time. 749 00:32:06,659 --> 00:32:09,960 As soon as she can, they'll release her. 750 00:32:09,962 --> 00:32:11,428 And then, we'll just stay in New Jersey 751 00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:12,829 until the 11th 752 00:32:12,831 --> 00:32:14,631 'cause we have to stay a minimum of five days 753 00:32:14,633 --> 00:32:16,066 after the hospital. 754 00:32:17,402 --> 00:32:18,769 So, there's several different places 755 00:32:18,771 --> 00:32:20,938 that do this surgery for Ysabel's back. 756 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:22,973 But the one that I just love the most, 757 00:32:22,975 --> 00:32:25,676 the team of doctors, is in New Jersey. 758 00:32:25,678 --> 00:32:27,344 We're leaving in a couple of days... 759 00:32:28,846 --> 00:32:30,681 and we're gonna be gone for like a month. 760 00:32:30,683 --> 00:32:32,749 Then a two-week quarantine when we get back. 761 00:32:32,751 --> 00:32:35,052 So, Kody's not gonna see the kids for like... 762 00:32:35,753 --> 00:32:36,753 eight weeks or so. 763 00:32:36,755 --> 00:32:38,288 [Christine] We're excited. 764 00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:40,891 And you're taking... You're taking all of your girls. 765 00:32:40,893 --> 00:32:42,426 Yes. 766 00:32:42,428 --> 00:32:43,727 [Janelle] You guys are gonna have like, 767 00:32:43,729 --> 00:32:46,830 - sort of a vacation, thanks to Ysabel. - Yes. Yes. 768 00:32:46,832 --> 00:32:49,866 We are going to look at this as positively as possible. 769 00:32:49,868 --> 00:32:53,270 And the first two weeks are going to be a vacation. 770 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,040 When COVID started, we agreed as a family 771 00:32:57,042 --> 00:33:00,010 that we wouldn't travel, that we would sequester. 772 00:33:03,581 --> 00:33:04,815 And after a little while, 773 00:33:04,817 --> 00:33:07,317 Christine just decided she wasn't gonna do it anymore. 774 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:08,318 She started travelling. 775 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,988 She started travelling extensively. 776 00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:13,390 And it was making it so that I was only able to see the kids 777 00:33:13,392 --> 00:33:14,524 part of the time. 778 00:33:14,526 --> 00:33:17,995 So, when she presented the idea of doing the surgery, 779 00:33:17,997 --> 00:33:20,263 this year during the summer, during the COVID, 780 00:33:20,732 --> 00:33:23,100 I became antagonistic. 781 00:33:27,038 --> 00:33:30,574 My belief was that it was no longer about Ysabel, 782 00:33:30,576 --> 00:33:33,677 her needs and what was best for her... 783 00:33:33,679 --> 00:33:36,413 but rather that Christine wanted to take advantage 784 00:33:36,415 --> 00:33:39,383 of the time and really get a vacation out of it. 785 00:33:40,618 --> 00:33:41,985 [Christine] So good we're excited, though. 786 00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:42,819 - [Ysabel] Yeah. - It'll be good. 787 00:33:42,821 --> 00:33:44,421 [Janelle] Awesome. 788 00:33:44,423 --> 00:33:47,157 So, we'll leave tomorrow. We'll be back, October 11th. 789 00:33:48,393 --> 00:33:49,793 - Cool-- - [Janelle] Have fun. 790 00:33:49,795 --> 00:33:50,560 - Yeah, keep us updated. - And good luck. 791 00:33:50,562 --> 00:33:52,362 Thank you. 792 00:33:52,364 --> 00:33:53,964 [Janelle] I'm so glad you're gonna be back and like functional. 793 00:33:53,966 --> 00:33:54,865 - And not in pain. - I know, really. 794 00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:55,632 Not in pain. 795 00:33:55,634 --> 00:33:58,702 I hadn't been aware enough 796 00:33:58,704 --> 00:34:03,040 of the daily grind Ysabel was going through with her pain. 797 00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:04,374 All right guys. Well... 798 00:34:05,676 --> 00:34:06,676 Thank you! 799 00:34:06,678 --> 00:34:08,879 Christine, will you get that paperwork for me? 800 00:34:08,881 --> 00:34:10,981 Yes, yes, yes. Thank you guys for coming. I appreciate it. 801 00:34:10,983 --> 00:34:11,848 Bye, love you guys. 802 00:34:11,850 --> 00:34:13,383 - [Meri] Good luck... - Thank you! 803 00:34:13,385 --> 00:34:15,052 - [Meri] I wish I could give you a hug. - I know. 804 00:34:15,054 --> 00:34:16,386 - This is, like, so stupid. - Mwah. Mwah. 805 00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:17,887 I love you guys. Bye. 806 00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:19,990 [Kody] If it wasn't for the amount of pain, 807 00:34:19,992 --> 00:34:22,592 I would've kept pushing for her to wait for the surgery 808 00:34:22,594 --> 00:34:24,795 but it just is what it is. 809 00:34:24,797 --> 00:34:26,696 And I've accepted that and I'm okay with it. 810 00:34:26,698 --> 00:34:27,798 And I'm actually happy that... 811 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,666 Ysabel is doing it now. 812 00:34:29,668 --> 00:34:32,069 So, but that is a... That's a challenge for us. 813 00:34:32,071 --> 00:34:34,871 That's a long time for her to be away, especially 814 00:34:34,873 --> 00:34:36,073 with her being away from me 815 00:34:36,075 --> 00:34:37,908 during a recovery that could be... 816 00:34:37,910 --> 00:34:39,943 potentially very painful. 817 00:34:45,049 --> 00:34:47,384 I have a relationship through my wife 818 00:34:47,386 --> 00:34:48,518 with the children. 819 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,754 - I'm sorry I can't go. - It's okay. 820 00:34:50,756 --> 00:34:55,325 I think him not coming is... really stupid. 821 00:34:55,327 --> 00:34:56,860 -So, Ysabel... brought up her... -What am I signing? 822 00:34:56,862 --> 00:34:59,463 - Can you tell me? - You're signing that we're gonna pay for it. 823 00:34:59,465 --> 00:35:00,964 - Hey, you're not socially distancing. - Sorry. 824 00:35:00,966 --> 00:35:04,134 I would love it if Kody could come for Ysabel's sake. 825 00:35:04,502 --> 00:35:06,103 But for me, I don't care. 826 00:35:12,009 --> 00:35:13,410 [Kody] Are you packed for a month, Ysabel? 827 00:35:13,845 --> 00:35:15,178 Almost. 828 00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:16,045 Well, couple of months back, 829 00:35:16,047 --> 00:35:17,781 when Christine and Ysabel presented that 830 00:35:17,783 --> 00:35:19,749 they were ready to go and do this surgery 831 00:35:19,751 --> 00:35:21,952 and they're gonna do it during COVID-19, 832 00:35:21,954 --> 00:35:24,387 I became extremely frustrated. 833 00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:27,791 We can pretend that there is no pandemic. 834 00:35:27,793 --> 00:35:29,392 [Christine] I'm not pretending. 835 00:35:29,394 --> 00:35:30,894 - Well... - I'm not pretending. 836 00:35:30,896 --> 00:35:34,030 They wouldn't have the surgery or give us the surgery 837 00:35:34,032 --> 00:35:35,966 if like, they thought it was unsafe. 838 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,300 What do we do? 839 00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:39,136 If you're gonna go, do this surgery, 840 00:35:39,138 --> 00:35:41,404 what are we gonna do? 841 00:35:42,607 --> 00:35:43,840 The problem for me, 842 00:35:43,842 --> 00:35:46,009 sometimes with some of my children is, 843 00:35:46,011 --> 00:35:48,612 that I have a relationship through my wife 844 00:35:48,614 --> 00:35:49,779 with the children. 845 00:35:49,781 --> 00:35:52,716 My big regret is just not having that conversation 846 00:35:52,718 --> 00:35:56,319 privately, in a safe space, with Ysabel. 847 00:35:57,088 --> 00:36:00,223 And figuring out what she needed 848 00:36:00,225 --> 00:36:01,925 rather than judging 849 00:36:01,927 --> 00:36:04,227 the entire situation with what Christine needed. 850 00:36:04,428 --> 00:36:05,028 You excited? 851 00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:06,062 Yeah, I'm excited, yeah. 852 00:36:06,064 --> 00:36:06,930 I'm sorry I can't go. 853 00:36:06,932 --> 00:36:08,632 It's okay. 854 00:36:08,634 --> 00:36:09,966 [Kody] I wanna be there for her, 855 00:36:09,968 --> 00:36:11,401 to be a strength for her. 856 00:36:11,403 --> 00:36:12,736 You know, there's just this 857 00:36:12,738 --> 00:36:15,071 healing element from a parent's love 858 00:36:15,073 --> 00:36:17,340 and I know this and I want 859 00:36:17,342 --> 00:36:19,843 Ysabel to get this from me. 860 00:36:19,845 --> 00:36:22,045 - [Kody] You understand, right? - Yeah, I get it. It's okay. 861 00:36:22,047 --> 00:36:23,246 - You sure? - Uh-huh. 862 00:36:23,514 --> 00:36:24,581 [Kody] All right. 863 00:36:24,815 --> 00:36:26,416 You're not gonna become a bitter old housewife? 864 00:36:26,418 --> 00:36:28,919 - No, I guess not. - 'Cause your daddy didn't do this for you. 865 00:36:28,921 --> 00:36:31,388 - No. I do. - You do understand? 866 00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:32,989 - I do, I do, I do. - All right. 867 00:36:32,991 --> 00:36:34,291 - [Ysabel] I'll miss you, though. - I'll miss you. 868 00:36:37,828 --> 00:36:39,396 I need him to be there but... 869 00:36:40,798 --> 00:36:42,132 Then, why isn't he coming? 870 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,935 I don't know, why wouldn't be there? 871 00:36:45,503 --> 00:36:48,038 Why wouldn't he just drop everything for me? 872 00:36:49,407 --> 00:36:51,374 I think his priorities are a little screwed up. 873 00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:54,945 Well, the reason that I'm not going is... 874 00:36:54,947 --> 00:36:56,746 basically two reasons. 875 00:36:56,748 --> 00:36:59,683 The amount of time because of COVID 876 00:36:59,685 --> 00:37:00,717 quarantining and stuff like that, 877 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,685 that I would have to be... 878 00:37:01,687 --> 00:37:03,920 away from the rest of the family, 879 00:37:03,922 --> 00:37:08,592 and because of the risk of exposure to COVID-19. 880 00:37:08,594 --> 00:37:10,093 Which is, what we've been trying to do, 881 00:37:10,095 --> 00:37:11,962 is make it so that I can see the whole family 882 00:37:11,964 --> 00:37:13,964 this entire time. 883 00:37:13,966 --> 00:37:15,665 I won't be bitter and hold it against you. 884 00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:16,766 I didn't want you to do it, yet. 885 00:37:16,768 --> 00:37:18,902 I had no idea how much pain you were in 886 00:37:18,904 --> 00:37:19,669 but I'm glad, you're doing it now. 887 00:37:19,671 --> 00:37:21,972 Yeah. 888 00:37:21,974 --> 00:37:24,074 [Ysabel] He has a lot of kids to think about, and... 889 00:37:24,076 --> 00:37:26,910 I'm not the only kid that he has to make sure 890 00:37:26,912 --> 00:37:28,144 is safe during this pandemic. 891 00:37:28,846 --> 00:37:30,347 I do. 892 00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:33,383 It sucks. It sucks that he can't be there. 893 00:37:33,385 --> 00:37:35,885 Cool. We'll go do something fun after you get back. 894 00:37:35,887 --> 00:37:36,886 [Ysabel] Cool beans. I'm excited. 895 00:37:36,888 --> 00:37:38,989 I don't want her to be bitter 896 00:37:38,991 --> 00:37:41,925 in the future or even through this experience 897 00:37:41,927 --> 00:37:44,027 that I wasn't able to do that. 898 00:37:44,029 --> 00:37:46,329 And so, it's hard that they're doing this without me. 899 00:37:46,731 --> 00:37:48,665 - Yeah. - Okay. 900 00:37:48,667 --> 00:37:51,001 -All right, I love you. We'll see you. -Love you too. 901 00:37:51,636 --> 00:37:54,938 And... I don't know, he's such a brave man. 902 00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:56,673 He's so brave and he's so strong. 903 00:37:56,675 --> 00:37:58,408 He's letting fear control him. 904 00:37:59,410 --> 00:38:01,411 How long are you gonna stop your life for? 905 00:38:01,413 --> 00:38:04,047 Like, how long are you gonna put just everything on hold? 906 00:38:07,051 --> 00:38:08,151 Thanks, dad. I love you. 907 00:38:08,153 --> 00:38:09,386 [Kody] I love you, will see you. Have a nice trip. 908 00:38:09,388 --> 00:38:12,122 - Thank you, I'll miss you. - Bye, I'll miss you. 909 00:38:14,925 --> 00:38:17,460 There's a real emotional conundrum that we're dealing with 910 00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:20,897 with the whole COVID thing and social distancing and stuff. 911 00:38:20,899 --> 00:38:24,034 She's going off to have a major surgery done. 912 00:38:24,036 --> 00:38:25,068 And I can't hug her. 913 00:38:25,070 --> 00:38:26,436 That's really hard. 914 00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:31,775 [Christine] You good, love? 915 00:38:31,777 --> 00:38:33,009 [Ysabel] Yeah. 916 00:38:33,678 --> 00:38:35,011 - [Christine] Oh, my gosh. - All right. 917 00:38:35,013 --> 00:38:37,314 I've got the special for you to sign. 918 00:38:37,682 --> 00:38:38,782 For days. 919 00:38:38,784 --> 00:38:40,550 [Christine] Before we get the surgery, 920 00:38:40,552 --> 00:38:44,087 Ysabel has to have a bunch of paperwork. 921 00:38:44,089 --> 00:38:45,522 -So, Ysabel... brought up her... -What am I signing? 922 00:38:45,524 --> 00:38:47,891 - Can you tell me? - You're signing that we're gonna pay for it. 923 00:38:47,893 --> 00:38:48,958 - Hey, you're not socially distancing. - Sorry. 924 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,827 I told Christine to maintain her social distance 925 00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:52,996 was 'cause she's been travelling. 926 00:38:53,464 --> 00:38:55,665 [Robyn] Since the pandemic has hit, 927 00:38:55,667 --> 00:39:00,003 Kody is in a really bad place mentally and emotionally 928 00:39:00,005 --> 00:39:02,539 because he's having trouble 929 00:39:02,541 --> 00:39:06,009 getting wives to agree with him on what to do 930 00:39:06,011 --> 00:39:08,645 as far as COVID and how to handle it. 931 00:39:08,647 --> 00:39:09,512 He's having... 932 00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:11,614 one issue after another with them. 933 00:39:11,616 --> 00:39:14,951 And then also, they're not working with him 934 00:39:14,953 --> 00:39:17,520 on things, so he can't go see them as much. 935 00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:19,989 Because I'm sticking to... 936 00:39:19,991 --> 00:39:23,193 what it is that he wants to do as far as COVID, 937 00:39:25,029 --> 00:39:27,630 I'm seeing him the most. 938 00:39:27,632 --> 00:39:30,800 He's worried about the unity of his family. 939 00:39:30,802 --> 00:39:32,836 [Christine] And this is just saying, 940 00:39:32,838 --> 00:39:34,404 that we'll pay whatever the insurance doesn't pay for. 941 00:39:36,407 --> 00:39:38,608 [Christine] Kody and I have been struggling for a while. 942 00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:41,311 We're not close, so it was actually... 943 00:39:41,313 --> 00:39:44,681 painful, emotionally, to be there to be honest. It's... 944 00:39:44,683 --> 00:39:47,417 It's hard to see him with everybody. 945 00:39:47,419 --> 00:39:50,120 It's really hard to see him in functional 946 00:39:50,122 --> 00:39:51,988 marriages, when we don't have one. 947 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:52,889 It sucks. 948 00:39:52,891 --> 00:39:53,990 [Kody] It's terribly awkward. 949 00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:56,893 It's just the place Christine and I are in. 950 00:39:56,895 --> 00:39:59,095 We're in a terribly awkward place. 951 00:39:59,797 --> 00:40:01,197 This is not... 952 00:40:03,033 --> 00:40:04,367 the experience... 953 00:40:04,869 --> 00:40:07,103 of people who are soulmates. 954 00:40:07,105 --> 00:40:10,106 Or people who even love and respect each other 955 00:40:10,108 --> 00:40:11,007 in a deep way. 956 00:40:11,009 --> 00:40:12,342 This is an experience of... 957 00:40:14,178 --> 00:40:15,211 of distance. 958 00:40:17,782 --> 00:40:19,916 [Christine] Kody and I are not getting better. 959 00:40:19,950 --> 00:40:22,385 It's been bad for a long time. 960 00:40:22,387 --> 00:40:23,686 I would love it, if Kody could come 961 00:40:23,688 --> 00:40:25,922 for Ysabel's sake. 962 00:40:25,924 --> 00:40:28,758 But for me, I don't care that he's not gonna be there. 963 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,994 I think us being separated for a while 964 00:40:30,996 --> 00:40:31,661 for this month... 965 00:40:31,695 --> 00:40:33,396 might be good. 966 00:40:33,398 --> 00:40:35,799 Ysabel was saying the other day, she wished you could come. 967 00:40:35,801 --> 00:40:39,335 And I said, "You know, he would have come if it wasn't for COVID." 968 00:40:40,938 --> 00:40:43,006 But hey, it's happening now and the time's right. 969 00:40:43,008 --> 00:40:45,475 And she's... 970 00:40:45,477 --> 00:40:46,943 - So, we're good. - Yeah. 971 00:40:46,945 --> 00:40:48,611 She's fine with it, though. She gets it. She understands. 972 00:40:48,613 --> 00:40:50,113 - Okay. - She's not frustrated with it. 973 00:40:50,115 --> 00:40:51,648 - Have a good trip. - Thank you. 974 00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:52,949 - See ya. - See you. 975 00:40:58,055 --> 00:40:59,823 [Kody] I'm just having regret. 976 00:40:59,857 --> 00:41:01,157 'Cause the... 977 00:41:03,394 --> 00:41:05,929 whole damn situation is breaking my heart. 978 00:41:05,931 --> 00:41:08,932 The whole thing with Ysabel going and doing the surgery 979 00:41:08,934 --> 00:41:11,067 and the whole thing with my family and this... 980 00:41:11,802 --> 00:41:13,303 disparity in behavior... 981 00:41:14,672 --> 00:41:15,371 during COVID, 982 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,341 it's really, really, really 983 00:41:19,243 --> 00:41:21,144 hard on our family. 984 00:41:25,683 --> 00:41:26,616 [sighs] 985 00:41:26,618 --> 00:41:29,052 It's just, it's breaking my heart. 986 00:41:30,588 --> 00:41:32,755 I'm just... It's just an indicator 987 00:41:32,757 --> 00:41:36,292 that we are screwing this up so badly. 988 00:41:36,794 --> 00:41:39,996 And I'm sad about it. 989 00:41:44,735 --> 00:41:46,870 [Kody as narrator] Next time on Sister Wives... 990 00:41:46,872 --> 00:41:49,772 I've heard like you and Kody say things 991 00:41:49,774 --> 00:41:52,542 that basically tell me there's still issues. 992 00:41:52,544 --> 00:41:54,611 [Meri] I kind of keep hearing 993 00:41:54,613 --> 00:41:58,648 about, you know, this little bit of an issue. 994 00:41:58,650 --> 00:42:01,417 And yeah, I mean, it involves me and it involves Janelle. 995 00:42:01,419 --> 00:42:04,787 I don't know how much to bring up 996 00:42:04,789 --> 00:42:06,856 from the past and work through. 997 00:42:06,858 --> 00:42:08,992 There's not a whole lot of secrets in a family. 998 00:42:08,994 --> 00:42:10,727 Conversations get spilled. 999 00:42:10,729 --> 00:42:12,962 [Janelle] I just worry that 1000 00:42:12,964 --> 00:42:15,431 you'd get angry at one time, like we all do. 1001 00:42:15,433 --> 00:42:17,066 And instead of like slamming the doors... 1002 00:42:17,068 --> 00:42:18,768 When we all lived in one house, 1003 00:42:18,770 --> 00:42:19,869 you just slammed the doors so everybody knew you were angry. 1004 00:42:19,871 --> 00:42:21,504 Wow, Janelle! [giggles] 1005 00:42:21,506 --> 00:42:25,008 Yeah, I've slammed doors when I've been mad before. 1006 00:42:26,243 --> 00:42:29,212 To be honest with you, I'm feeling a wall right now.