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Previously on Sister Wives...
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This summer has been
especially hard on Kody and I.
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So we are
fundamentally at odds
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of how you manage the risk
of this virus transmission.
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It would be nice
if we could figure out
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when, at what point
we could be okay
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to socialize as a family.
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I just don't see
that we're getting together.
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Wow.
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So basically,
unless we all observe
his uber, uber, uber
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careful stance...
forget holidays.
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Ysabel was diagnosed
with scoliosis
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when she was like 13.
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So it's just time
to get the surgery.
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Why don't we put it out
six months because
of the pandemic?
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I know that
getting a surgery
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during a pandemic
isn't smart.
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But she's in enough pain.
And I can't wait more.
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Listen, I'm not flying there.
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This is the thing, you guys.
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I'm not going to New York.
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Christine and I aren't getting along.
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And so it's hard for me not
to see it as an opportunity
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for Christine to do
it without me.
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Christine started going,
"Hey, I want to move."
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Would you be just as happy?
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Could you be just
as happy in Utah?
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I mean, at this point,
I would just be like,
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"You guys give me the property
and you can move."
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So I've got Christine
in one place
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and Janelle
in an opposite place,
so to speak.
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Ultimately, what's happening
in my life
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is two princesses
given ultimatums.
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I wish
we could just settle down
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like, we're here,
we're in Flagstaff.
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I can't do that to my kids.
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Hey.
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- Hold on, what?
- Oh.
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Sorry.
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What do you listen to?
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What do I listen to?
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Pachelbel.
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Oh, of course.
Yeah.
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-"Canon in D."
- Yeah, of course.
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I listen to anything
that's going to motivate me.
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Today, it's Pachelbel
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because I want to lift,
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and I want to be
in sort of a serene place.
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That's funny. That's workout
music for you?
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Well, workout's
a meditation, right?
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Oh, no. I need something...
I need something way harder.
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I listen to German
industrial rock
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or older rappers
like Eminem.
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You know,
when we were in Vegas,
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she went to
several rock concerts
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and wore black T-shirts
and heavy makeup and stuff.
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Yeah. I had
some snakeskin leggings
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and a ratty black T-shirt
tank top thing.
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So, yeah.
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Okay, so Hunter
leaves tomorrow.
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But I think I would like
to have a barbecue
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on the property.
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So Hunter is leaving to go
to school, so he'll be gone.
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And I want to have kind of
a farewell barbecue for him
at the end of the week.
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So we're still in the middle
of this COVID pandemic,
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and the family still
doesn't see eye to eye
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on how to manage risk.
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Uh...
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Well, I think I'll...
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Well, first of all,
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I got to sort of get
the family on board.
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When you have
a family this big,
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there's constantly a conflict
in what everybody wants to do.
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Social distancing
from the family.
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The family doesn't get
together... almost at all.
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And I'm going from
house to house
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trying to keep the exposure
to COVID-19 extremely low
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but still have
family relationships.
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And it's been a challenge.
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This is stretching
on and on,
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and Hunter's leaving, so maybe
we can figure something out.
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Kody, we've got to
figure out a way
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to see each other.
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It's been five months now.
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It doesn't seem like
things are letting up.
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So we can't
continue to go
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on and on without
seeing each other.
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I mean, we could.
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But I don't know if the family
will remain intact if we do.
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- What I ought to do is
I ought to just set up...
- I have...
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...a pit for each mom.
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I have four kids home.
Oh, really?
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Well, that's three.
And then Meri just fits in.
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I mean, to do four fires
is gonna spread us
out pretty far.
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But I'm thinking
I can make a triangle
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and then Meri can
stay somewhere
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socially distanced
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outside of that.
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Then we wouldn't have
to necessarily wear masks,
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right, 'cause we would
be staying distant.
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Well, to be fair,
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that's like each mom...
each one of the moms
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has been running her
household differently.
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That will be up
to each mom.
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The kids are already
like complaining,
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like, "This isn't normal.
We are one family.
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Why couldn't we
see each other?
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Why aren't we
getting together?"
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If we finally get together
as a family and I say,
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"Everybody has to mask up,"
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that might be
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something that has the kids
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getting really stupid with me.
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They've been complaining
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the whole COVID
corona apocalypse,
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they've been complaining
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that they can't get to get
together more with
the whole family.
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- Yeah.
And that's
all been because
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the whole family still
goes outside of our family.
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I follow
the state regulations,
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the local regulations,
the CDC guidelines.
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Kody and Robyn,
I think, especially
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observe a few
extra... requirements.
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And it's sort of viewed like
very black and white.
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So there's a difference of
opinion about what's enough.
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And there's just no
bending on it, it seems like.
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So remind me to
text out to everybody
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- when I'm done with
my workout, okay?
- All right.
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- Okay.
- All right.
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I really want
everybody to come
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so that Hunter
can see them all.
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But I'm also
extremely nervous
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knowing that I'll spend
the entire time
stressing out about
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making sure
that we're not getting
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exposure to the virus.
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From each other.
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So Kody is on his way over.
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He wants to talk to
me about something.
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And I don't know what it is.
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But you know what?
I don't care.
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The fact that he's coming over
and is gonna talk to me,
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that's a win.
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So a few months ago,
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Kody and I had
our 30th anniversary.
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I've been waiting
for you, honestly.
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And I'm not coming.
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I know that.
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But you're not
courting me
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- to that relationship.
- I didn't know I was
supposed to court you.
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I've had a lot of people
say to me,
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"Why are you still there?
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He clearly doesn't love you.
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You're just brainwashed.
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You know,
you're just doing this
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because you think
that it's what's gonna get
you to heaven.
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Why do you stay?"
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Hi.
How's it going?
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Good. How are you?
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I'm good.
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Well, because
it's my family,
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because I have
a confirmation
from God
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that this is where
I am meant to be,
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this is a very conscious
choice that I'm making.
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What's up?
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Initially, Meri and I
were sitting apart,
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you know, were
keeping our distance.
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And then I realized after
talking with her a little bit
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that she's been taking
extreme cautions with COVID.
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So I got thinking,
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why are we keeping
six feet apart?
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We don't have to.
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Okay, you know our talk,
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I don't even know when...
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we had a talk on the property
where Christine...
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told everybody
that she wanted to
move back to Utah.
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Yeah.
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Her and I discussed that
right after the law changed.
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So Christine wants
to move to Utah.
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And that's a real
challenge for us
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because we're right in
the middle of trying to,
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you know,
divide the properties
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on Coyote Pass.
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And we're doing all this,
you know,
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even struggling with
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where everybody's
going to go on Coyote Pass.
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But I'm trying to fish it out
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just to make sure
we're not,
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you know, just killing
Christine's dreams.
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She's here.
The law changes.
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She's feeling really isolated
from the rest of the family
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- just 'cause the distance
between our homes.
- Yeah.
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And she just pops up
with immediately, like,
talking to me going,
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"I really want to
move back to Utah."
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Because of actions
of a senator
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and members
of the plural community
in Utah,
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polygamy is no longer
a felony up there.
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It's more like
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an infraction,
I guess, which is like
a parking ticket.
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I got to admit,
I was pretty...
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I tried to be stoic
with her,
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you know, just...
But I was like,
"Yeah, I'll move.
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- I'm game."
- Really?
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Oh, yeah.
I always have been.
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That's where I thought
I would retire in
St. George, Utah.
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The problem was
with the first conversation
I had with Christine
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and the conversation
we had on Coyote Pass
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was I started thinking
about the reality of it,
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and it started to look, yeah,
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pretty crazy to me.
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I wonder why
we're still here.
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We can move back home.
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I don't know.
I think that
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once we basically
were "kicked out" of Utah,
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I've just kind of
had a feeling of,
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"Well, I'm not gonna grace
you with my presence then."
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I'm in a place where
I feel like my kids,
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my kids love it here,
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this is the most likely place
for any of our kids
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to move back,
our adult kids.
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We're not moving,
are we?
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My whole purpose
in coming here...
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is... is basically to
really find out
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what everybody thinks.
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And so I wanted to talk to
you about it as well.
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Hold on.
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Can we just hold
on to the fact
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that he said he wanted
to talk to me?
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I don't care what it's about,
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but the fact that he wanted
to talk to me about something,
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yep... I'm there.
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So when we were out
there that day, you were
on board with her.
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- N-n-no.
-'Cause you seemed to be
kind of shutting her down.
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Yeah, I was shutting
her down.
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But I realized that I was
being a total jack wagon.
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When we were at
the property, I had no idea
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that he was more for it.
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No wonder
she was so upset.
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Nobody likes it when
Kody Brown goes jack wagon.
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A jack wagon is
just the kind of guy
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that's like a jackass, a...
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a... jerk.
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You really want to move back?
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No, I don't really
want to move.
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You can't beat Flagstaff,
Arizona.
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You just can't.
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You know, we're kind of
invested in this town now.
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We are sort of...
I would call it,
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we're sort of stuck here.
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It's such a weird world.
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I don't know why
it's a big deal now.
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Maybe it's midlife
crisis, Meri.
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But our world...
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is so affected by the actions
and the thoughts
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and the feelings of every
other member in this family.
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In plural marriage,
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it feels like other people
are in control of your life.
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But because Christine
is the one on the outside
this time,
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she's going,
"Holy cow, this sucks.
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These people...
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control what I do in my life."
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I mean, our family has always
been run on a committee.
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And it just that's how
we've always run things.
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And sometimes you win
and sometimes you lose.
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Plural marriage is definitely
not for everybody.
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And when you sign up, you have
to go in eyes wide open
knowing that...
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I don't know, like,
you have to really
become more,
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like, easy about things.
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Trust that everything's
gonna be okay,
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that somebody
has your back,
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that God is in control.
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Not everybody's
always gonna be happy about
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a decision
that we might come to.
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But I guess it really
just comes down to,
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you know, how committed
you are to the family
and making things work.
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It can be frustrating
to bring forth
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an idea to the group
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and have it be shot down.
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Do your sister wives
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care enough about you
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to really listen to
what it is that you want,
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consider it, and respect it?
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So theoretically,
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the only way to actually
be able to see Dad...
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is to get COVID.
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I think, at this point,
Gabriel should choose his...
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girlfriend over his dad.
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If I end up getting it
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and then I recover,
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if that doesn't
change the game,
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then this was never
about COVID at all
in the first place.
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Thinking of moving to Utah,
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honestly, my gut instinct
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is, "Oh, hell no.
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- Not interested."
Yeah.
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- I never had the desire
to move back.
- Wow.
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So for you, like
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you feel literally the same
way that Janelle
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and Robyn feel like
there's just no desire at all
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- to move back Utah.
- I really don't have a desire
to move back there.
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Okay.
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Why am I torturing myself?
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It's really all over,
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sort of just making
sure we're sure.
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I feel bad in saying that
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because I know it's so
important to Christine.
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Honestly,
I hate the fact that she
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might be feeling trapped.
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I don't know
if that's how she feels.
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But I wonder.
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You know, I have no
idea what's going on
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between Christine and Kody.
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I just know that that day,
out at the property,
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she was really hurting.
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Meri, I can't do marriage
with Kody anymore.
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I don't want to...
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Just look at the mountain.
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I don't want
to do it anymore.
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Don't talk about that.
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Just look at the mountain.
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- That's what you saw that day.
I don't want
to do it anymore.
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I can't go there today.
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When I was in my super,
super dark time,
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I got in a situation where
I was talking to somebody
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who was not who they
were saying they were.
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And it got to be a very,
very manipulative
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and controlling situation.
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I really, really
appreciated...
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Robyn
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being there
and being a support
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and helping me fight
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through all the crap.
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And so the fact that
Christine was able to open up
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to me just a little
bit that day,
334
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I really appreciated.
335
00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,667
But I... I hope
that she knows
that I'm here.
336
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Do you think being here...
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00:14:26,933 --> 00:14:31,733
I mean, 'cause she really
struggled in Vegas for
those first two years.
338
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Do you think it's worse now
than it was in those
first two years in Vegas?
339
00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,467
- For her?
- For all of us.
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I think it's very different.
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Up until that point,
we had been together,
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00:14:43,733 --> 00:14:46,667
and then we were
all separate.
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I think...
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that we all got very
comfortable with it.
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And now all four
of us are just, like...
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comfortable being
by ourselves.
347
00:14:59,067 --> 00:15:01,967
So for that reason,
I don't feel like it's harder.
348
00:15:02,067 --> 00:15:04,233
And that is very
disturbing to me.
349
00:15:04,267 --> 00:15:06,333
I think it's very important
350
00:15:06,367 --> 00:15:09,467
for plural wives to
have a balance.
351
00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:12,967
Like, we don't have to always
be together all the time.
352
00:15:13,067 --> 00:15:15,367
We don't have to
be best friends.
353
00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,967
We don't have to
do any of that.
354
00:15:18,067 --> 00:15:20,433
But we also
need to have,
355
00:15:20,467 --> 00:15:23,167
you know, the relationships
within the family.
356
00:15:24,833 --> 00:15:27,133
Honestly, I think we
all just got selfish.
357
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And the question I have is,
"Did we really like
358
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living next to each other
in Las Vegas?"
359
00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:36,233
Because it seems like
we don't miss it
360
00:15:36,267 --> 00:15:37,900
now that we're in Flagstaff.
361
00:15:37,933 --> 00:15:40,467
Do you like each other?
362
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Do you want to be
around each other?
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Because I mean,
I'm being accusatory,
but I don't believe you do.
364
00:15:47,967 --> 00:15:49,267
Shoot, for that matter,
365
00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:53,133
I've known guys who had wives
that lived in different states
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while he was married to
two wives or more wives.
367
00:15:56,267 --> 00:15:59,600
Well, who's to say that Meri
couldn't live in Parowan?
368
00:15:59,633 --> 00:16:02,200
And who's to say Christine
couldn't live in Salt Lake?
369
00:16:02,233 --> 00:16:05,700
And who's to say that Janelle
and Robyn, if they
370
00:16:05,733 --> 00:16:09,500
because they love it
so much here...
couldn't just stay here?
371
00:16:09,533 --> 00:16:12,300
If you're separated
by states,
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00:16:12,333 --> 00:16:15,533
I don't see how that's
a full functioning marriage.
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00:16:15,567 --> 00:16:19,300
I would not be interested
in a marriage separated
by states.
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00:16:19,333 --> 00:16:22,167
If Kody decided to
move and he just
375
00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,800
really doesn't care what
I think or feel or whatever,
376
00:16:24,833 --> 00:16:26,533
I'll go with him.
377
00:16:26,567 --> 00:16:28,233
I'd do what I
needed to do.
378
00:16:28,267 --> 00:16:29,467
I don't think it's healthy.
379
00:16:30,733 --> 00:16:33,967
If you're truly wanting to
be a part of a cohesive family
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00:16:34,067 --> 00:16:36,067
you can't live that far apart
from each other.
381
00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:38,967
The idea of being
married to Kody
382
00:16:39,067 --> 00:16:42,967
and living in a different
state is pretty stupid.
383
00:16:43,067 --> 00:16:46,700
And I'm looking at it even
from this place of, you know,
384
00:16:46,733 --> 00:16:48,967
kind of a fractured
relationship.
385
00:16:49,067 --> 00:16:51,933
You know, would it
be any different if I lived...
386
00:16:51,967 --> 00:16:55,233
up at my B&B...
or something. You know?
387
00:16:55,267 --> 00:16:58,467
No, it wouldn't.
But you know what?
388
00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:01,067
It wouldn't help
our relationship
389
00:17:01,100 --> 00:17:03,067
because I would
be that far away.
390
00:17:03,067 --> 00:17:04,300
All right. I'll see you.
391
00:17:05,367 --> 00:17:06,467
Thanks for coming over.
392
00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:07,833
It was nice to see you.
393
00:17:07,867 --> 00:17:09,733
It's good
to see you, too.
394
00:17:09,767 --> 00:17:13,233
At this point in my life,
this relationship is...
395
00:17:14,467 --> 00:17:18,233
basically where I have
an amiable relationship
with her
396
00:17:18,267 --> 00:17:23,467
with no desire or interest
in a romantic relationship.
397
00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:27,700
And I don't know
how we're going to continue
moving forward.
398
00:17:27,733 --> 00:17:30,733
But now we're actually
in a much better relationship.
399
00:17:30,767 --> 00:17:32,267
It's just not romantic.
400
00:17:43,700 --> 00:17:45,533
The university is actually
gonna be starting up
401
00:17:45,567 --> 00:17:46,933
a little bit earlier
this year,
402
00:17:46,967 --> 00:17:48,700
and so everybody's
back in town,
403
00:17:48,733 --> 00:17:50,633
including Gabe's girlfriend.
404
00:17:50,667 --> 00:17:52,067
Hi, Mama.
- Hi, honey.
405
00:17:52,067 --> 00:17:53,833
- How was school?
It was all right.
406
00:17:53,867 --> 00:17:55,433
Glad to be
on campus again.
407
00:17:55,467 --> 00:17:59,133
So there's just more exposure
and more factors that...
408
00:17:59,167 --> 00:18:00,933
we can't quite
account for it.
409
00:18:00,967 --> 00:18:04,167
So I just... I need to have
a conversation with him
about that.
410
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,900
You know,
I was thinking...
411
00:18:07,333 --> 00:18:11,267
because your girlfriend's back
and you have more exposure...
412
00:18:13,067 --> 00:18:18,600
what do you think about
like just kind of staying
in your... apartment?
413
00:18:18,633 --> 00:18:20,833
Like just not coming
into the house for
a couple of weeks?
414
00:18:20,867 --> 00:18:22,533
I don't like it,
but you're...
415
00:18:22,567 --> 00:18:24,800
you're hanging out
with your girlfriend,
416
00:18:24,833 --> 00:18:26,800
you're on campus.
417
00:18:26,833 --> 00:18:30,300
So since COVID began,
we've been struggling
418
00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:33,200
to figure out how to manage
Garrison and Gabriel's
419
00:18:33,233 --> 00:18:34,967
activities outside
of the home.
420
00:18:35,067 --> 00:18:37,800
They have friends.
Garrison works.
421
00:18:37,833 --> 00:18:39,100
Gabriel has school.
422
00:18:39,133 --> 00:18:41,733
That doesn't all mesh
with what Kody perceives
423
00:18:41,767 --> 00:18:43,867
is the way
to handle the risk.
424
00:18:43,900 --> 00:18:45,933
So I have
kind of this little
425
00:18:45,967 --> 00:18:49,200
sort of apartment attached
to the house that I rent.
426
00:18:49,233 --> 00:18:51,567
He can be self-sufficient.
He's got a washer and dryer,
427
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,200
his own bathroom,
his own kitchen.
428
00:18:53,233 --> 00:18:55,433
So it'll be a change 'cause
I'll see him come and go,
429
00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:56,700
and I'll see his car
in the driveway.
430
00:18:56,733 --> 00:18:58,733
But he won't be
coming over
431
00:18:58,767 --> 00:19:02,600
to raid my fridge
or get a cup of coffee
or something, so...
432
00:19:02,633 --> 00:19:04,967
- Your dad
is way more careful.
- No. Yeah. Like...
433
00:19:05,067 --> 00:19:06,400
And I'm just trying
to make sure
434
00:19:06,433 --> 00:19:08,267
he feels comfortable
still coming here
435
00:19:08,300 --> 00:19:10,433
and that we're protecting
everybody in the family.
436
00:19:10,467 --> 00:19:12,100
But if he comes
within two weeks,
437
00:19:12,133 --> 00:19:13,900
- I won't be able
to see him?
- Yeah.
438
00:19:15,067 --> 00:19:17,500
So now that the summer's
kind of over
439
00:19:17,533 --> 00:19:19,267
and cases are going down,
440
00:19:19,300 --> 00:19:22,067
things are starting to get
a little bit heated
441
00:19:22,067 --> 00:19:24,800
with... with my dad
right now.
442
00:19:24,833 --> 00:19:27,800
I'm pissed. I think we should
be all, like, together.
443
00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:29,400
I don't...
I literally don't understand
444
00:19:29,433 --> 00:19:31,533
why we're all
quarantining separate.
445
00:19:31,567 --> 00:19:32,733
I mean, honey,
it's really
446
00:19:32,767 --> 00:19:35,733
- just about the girlfriend.
- Theoretically, the only way
447
00:19:35,767 --> 00:19:40,167
- to actually be able
to see dad... is to get COVID.
448
00:19:41,267 --> 00:19:42,533
Just think about it.
449
00:19:42,567 --> 00:19:44,300
We'll be immune
and then we can just go
hang out with Dad.
450
00:19:44,333 --> 00:19:45,767
Dad doesn't have
to worry about
451
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,267
- catching it from us.
- The problem is it's scary.
It could kill me.
452
00:19:48,300 --> 00:19:50,633
- Cough in my mouth.
- Yeah.
453
00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:52,333
He's just blowing off
a little steam
454
00:19:52,367 --> 00:19:54,633
'cause this has been a really
rough several months
455
00:19:54,667 --> 00:19:56,833
of this whole distance,
can we be together,
456
00:19:56,867 --> 00:19:59,700
can we not be together.
Like, it's been a lot.
457
00:19:59,733 --> 00:20:01,667
Don't get me wrong, I still
think we should be safe,
458
00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:05,033
but if I end up getting it...
and then I recover...
459
00:20:06,567 --> 00:20:09,233
if that doesn't
change the game...
460
00:20:09,267 --> 00:20:11,800
then this was never
about COVID at all
in the first place.
461
00:20:13,267 --> 00:20:14,533
I know.
462
00:20:14,567 --> 00:20:17,033
Kody still loves his boys,
463
00:20:17,067 --> 00:20:18,833
but he doesn't trust them
464
00:20:18,867 --> 00:20:22,267
as far as what they say
their exposure is
465
00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:24,600
or if they're hanging out
with friends or not.
466
00:20:24,633 --> 00:20:28,200
And so because he's concerned
about the whole family
467
00:20:28,233 --> 00:20:32,167
and possibly picking up
the virus at my house
468
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,867
inadvertently and transferring it
469
00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,467
to the other
family members,
470
00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:39,000
I don't know if Kody's gonna
feel comfortable
471
00:20:39,033 --> 00:20:40,900
even in
a couple of weeks...
472
00:20:40,933 --> 00:20:43,233
to be around,
you know, Gabriel.
473
00:20:43,267 --> 00:20:45,033
There's no rules set up here.
There's no...
474
00:20:45,067 --> 00:20:46,467
- I know.
It's just, Dad's like,
475
00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:48,533
"I can't see anyone.
Sorry, bye."
476
00:20:48,567 --> 00:20:50,533
It's the frustration...
-"See you in Christmas."
477
00:20:50,567 --> 00:20:53,800
I spent months
trying to make my case,
478
00:20:53,833 --> 00:20:55,100
and I just kept hitting
a brick wall
479
00:20:55,133 --> 00:20:56,567
and I finally thought,
"You know what?
480
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,333
It's not worth the damage
to the relationships
481
00:20:59,367 --> 00:21:01,400
to keep butting my head
against this wall."
482
00:21:01,433 --> 00:21:03,100
Isn't it damaging
to the relationships
483
00:21:03,133 --> 00:21:04,400
that we don't ever
see each other?
484
00:21:04,433 --> 00:21:06,600
Yeah. But you know what?
We'll survive that.
485
00:21:07,833 --> 00:21:09,633
We'd probably
survive COVID too.
486
00:21:09,667 --> 00:21:10,733
I really think it's dumb.
487
00:21:10,767 --> 00:21:12,367
Not like...
The COVID precautions,
488
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,300
I can totally
get that, but...
489
00:21:14,333 --> 00:21:17,733
the fact that we're not doing
this as a family
is absolutely absurd.
490
00:21:19,667 --> 00:21:21,200
So is it Robyn
or is it Dad?
491
00:21:22,467 --> 00:21:23,467
I think it's Dad.
492
00:21:25,067 --> 00:21:27,133
I really do. Your dad has been
talking to his doctor.
493
00:21:27,167 --> 00:21:28,700
He has all
these ideas about
494
00:21:28,733 --> 00:21:31,233
what the rules need to be...
you know?
495
00:21:32,567 --> 00:21:35,100
He's... he's an independent
decision maker.
496
00:21:35,133 --> 00:21:36,967
Yeah, he's also
a freedom lover.
497
00:21:37,067 --> 00:21:39,567
- You know...
- And this isn't
very free of him.
498
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,267
I don't know, Gabriel,
what to say.
499
00:21:42,533 --> 00:21:45,567
I think, at this point,
Gabriel should choose his
500
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,100
girlfriend over his dad.
501
00:21:47,133 --> 00:21:48,833
I mean, he can always
talk to his dad.
502
00:21:48,867 --> 00:21:51,600
You know, his dad calls
all these kids...
on the phone.
503
00:21:51,633 --> 00:21:53,300
Like, I think at this
stage of his life,
504
00:21:53,333 --> 00:21:55,733
Gabriel needs to be pursuing
his life, personally.
505
00:21:57,367 --> 00:21:58,867
Yeah, I mean, like,
I just think
506
00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:02,500
making your adult kids
stay home is detrimental.
507
00:22:07,533 --> 00:22:11,200
There's an apprehension
and tension...
508
00:22:11,233 --> 00:22:13,700
every time we start
talking about this.
509
00:22:13,733 --> 00:22:16,167
Do we all unite
on this or don't we?
510
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,067
And I guess the freedom
that everybody wanted
511
00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:21,667
was more important,
and that's okay.
512
00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:24,067
The decisions that
everybody's making
about COVID
513
00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:26,767
has Kody just, like,
sort of giving up
514
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,600
on the family culture
and the structure
that we have.
515
00:22:38,833 --> 00:22:40,733
Hunter's almost ready
to go back to college.
516
00:22:40,767 --> 00:22:43,267
And we want to get
the family together and...
517
00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:45,067
and basically
have a cookout,
518
00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:47,700
do campfires
out on Coyote Pass.
519
00:22:47,733 --> 00:22:49,167
I'm headed to Robyn's house
520
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,233
because I got to pick up
a bunch of tools and equipment
521
00:22:51,267 --> 00:22:54,967
so we can create a bigger,
better campfire.
522
00:22:55,067 --> 00:22:56,167
- Hi.
- Hey.
523
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,800
- How's it going?
- What you doing?
524
00:22:58,833 --> 00:23:01,067
You got the text
about fire pit tonight?
525
00:23:01,067 --> 00:23:02,867
Oh, yeah.
526
00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:05,600
Well, we're gonna go dig
two extra fire pits.
527
00:23:05,633 --> 00:23:06,733
Oh.
528
00:23:06,767 --> 00:23:09,933
Now if I'm doing that,
will you let Sol and Ari come?
529
00:23:12,267 --> 00:23:16,133
- Whoa. Uh...
- Listen,
I'll help corral them.
530
00:23:16,167 --> 00:23:18,700
Okay. This is my thing
with Sol and Ari
531
00:23:18,733 --> 00:23:21,200
is if they're
sitting there struggling
532
00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:24,467
because they can't...
go to,
533
00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:27,533
you know, hug somebody
or play with somebody,
534
00:23:27,567 --> 00:23:30,633
then... you really think
they should go?
535
00:23:30,667 --> 00:23:35,267
I'm just...
They were so upset when they
couldn't play with Truely.
536
00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:37,833
During our birthday week
in April,
537
00:23:37,867 --> 00:23:39,933
Christine came over
with her girls.
538
00:23:39,967 --> 00:23:41,933
And it was really,
really difficult
539
00:23:41,967 --> 00:23:45,933
for Sol and Ari and Truely
to not hug and not play.
540
00:23:45,967 --> 00:23:48,233
So it was really,
really emotional for them.
541
00:23:48,267 --> 00:23:52,700
I need others,
the older kids and parents,
542
00:23:52,733 --> 00:23:55,267
and I think they will,
but like that would help.
543
00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:57,567
So I'm not having
to chase her
544
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,067
and be the bad guy
every single time going,
545
00:24:00,067 --> 00:24:02,633
"Okay... give space,"
546
00:24:02,667 --> 00:24:04,400
you know,
'cause I hate doing that.
547
00:24:04,433 --> 00:24:08,100
There's an apprehension
and tension...
548
00:24:08,133 --> 00:24:11,067
every time we start
talking about this
549
00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:15,533
because there's a lack
of trust amongst the family.
550
00:24:15,567 --> 00:24:17,500
So Solomon had RSV
when he was little.
551
00:24:17,533 --> 00:24:19,900
That's a respiratory virus
that affects your lungs.
552
00:24:19,933 --> 00:24:21,467
And everything
they're saying about
553
00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:23,533
COVID is affecting
the lungs and the kidneys.
554
00:24:23,567 --> 00:24:24,867
Truely had kidney failure.
555
00:24:24,900 --> 00:24:26,867
I'm concerned
that some of our kids,
556
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,400
if they're not following
our COVID protocols
557
00:24:29,433 --> 00:24:33,367
and our guidelines,
then they could put
our little children at risk.
558
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,500
So I'm just like,
559
00:24:34,533 --> 00:24:37,267
"Please, you know, like,
can you just conform?"
560
00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:41,867
But Meri's been
quarantined literally for...
561
00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:44,067
- weeks now.
- Yeah.
562
00:24:44,067 --> 00:24:45,300
Would you be
comfortable with her
563
00:24:45,333 --> 00:24:46,800
helping us with Ari and Sol?
564
00:24:46,833 --> 00:24:48,633
Can Ari sit on her lap
565
00:24:48,667 --> 00:24:50,433
because she's
literally been...
566
00:24:50,467 --> 00:24:51,833
like, literally
been quarantined.
567
00:24:52,933 --> 00:24:54,667
I don't know.
Well, what...
568
00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:56,333
I mean, I would
be great with that,
569
00:24:56,367 --> 00:24:57,833
but I don't know
what, like,
570
00:24:57,867 --> 00:25:00,567
how is everybody else
gonna see that, Kody?
571
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,500
I would love to be able
to have my kids,
572
00:25:05,533 --> 00:25:08,267
you know, interact
and hang out with Meri.
573
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:11,067
But how will the other wives
and the other kids
574
00:25:11,067 --> 00:25:13,433
kind of take it
if all of a sudden Kody says,
575
00:25:13,467 --> 00:25:16,467
"Hey, you guys can interact
and touch each other"?
576
00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:19,200
This isn't the right time
to just kind of throw
that in there
577
00:25:19,233 --> 00:25:21,300
because we've
never discussed it.
578
00:25:21,333 --> 00:25:22,900
Well, Meri is gonna
have to sit by one fire
579
00:25:22,933 --> 00:25:24,133
'cause I'm only
building three.
580
00:25:24,167 --> 00:25:26,067
So she's gonna
have to be in another group...
581
00:25:26,067 --> 00:25:27,600
All right. But see,
Meri is really good about
582
00:25:27,633 --> 00:25:28,867
the social distancing thing.
583
00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:31,333
She's really good about
just being really careful.
584
00:25:31,367 --> 00:25:32,433
Yeah.
- She has been.
585
00:25:32,467 --> 00:25:34,067
But I just don't know
how that'll...
586
00:25:34,067 --> 00:25:37,733
how that will... come across
to everybody else.
587
00:25:37,767 --> 00:25:40,667
Is it a thing that makes
everybody feel like
588
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:44,100
we don't have to follow rules
or something that they do?
589
00:25:44,133 --> 00:25:45,400
- Right.
So I'm just saying...
590
00:25:45,433 --> 00:25:46,767
Now's not the time
to modify the rules,
591
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,633
- I guess.
- No. No, no, no, no.
592
00:25:48,667 --> 00:25:50,967
This needs to be a nice,
593
00:25:51,067 --> 00:25:54,767
happy family experience
for Hunter.
594
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,933
So the whole family,
like all the wives,
595
00:25:56,967 --> 00:25:58,767
all the kids
wanted to quarantine.
596
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,333
Basically, stay home,
order out your groceries,
597
00:26:01,367 --> 00:26:03,067
have somebody else
deliver them
598
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:04,667
and no traveling.
599
00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:06,100
If everybody wanted
to do that,
600
00:26:06,133 --> 00:26:07,733
then that would
change the disposition.
601
00:26:07,767 --> 00:26:10,067
The whole family would
be able to get together.
602
00:26:10,067 --> 00:26:12,433
More than half of the family
is unwilling to do that.
603
00:26:12,467 --> 00:26:15,933
They're just not willing to...
to essentially quarantine.
604
00:26:15,967 --> 00:26:19,167
I have been being so careful
to follow your rules
605
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,867
because I know
that Sol and Ari
606
00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:22,267
can't be away from you
607
00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:23,667
for the two weeks
that you've done
608
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:26,067
with other people
because of their traveling
609
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:28,767
and their having people
in town and stuff like that.
610
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,700
I'm trying to check this
with my other wives,
611
00:26:31,733 --> 00:26:33,167
"Are you sure we're doing
the right thing?"
612
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,667
Well, obviously
Christine doesn't think
613
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:36,667
we're doing the right thing
'cause Christine is traveling
614
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:38,333
and going different places.
615
00:26:38,367 --> 00:26:40,067
And Janelle, she's
sort of back and forth.
616
00:26:40,067 --> 00:26:42,700
Then Meri, she's obviously
willing to quarantine
617
00:26:42,733 --> 00:26:44,300
so that she can
hang out with Robyn.
618
00:26:44,333 --> 00:26:46,667
And then Robyn's been
sequestered.
619
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:50,100
I just thought,
"Man, if everybody
would just do that...
620
00:26:50,133 --> 00:26:52,467
then we'll all
see each other all the time."
621
00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:54,333
Everybody should
have their choice.
622
00:26:54,367 --> 00:26:56,300
And so I guess
that was the choice
623
00:26:56,333 --> 00:26:58,400
that everybody got to make
624
00:26:58,433 --> 00:27:01,233
is, do they stick
to your rules or don't they?
625
00:27:01,267 --> 00:27:03,667
Do we all unite
on this or don't we?
626
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:06,533
And I guess the freedom
that everybody wanted
627
00:27:06,567 --> 00:27:08,767
was more important.
And that's okay.
628
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,767
Well, it hasn't been easy
on me at all.
629
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,067
I understand.
630
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:14,700
The decisions that everybody's
making about COVID
631
00:27:14,733 --> 00:27:17,067
has Kody just, like, sort of
632
00:27:17,067 --> 00:27:18,800
giving up
on the family culture
633
00:27:18,833 --> 00:27:20,700
and the structure
that we have.
634
00:27:20,733 --> 00:27:24,233
And it's really...
really been hard.
635
00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:26,733
It's shocking to me.
636
00:27:26,767 --> 00:27:28,867
It's shocking every time
he talks like that.
637
00:27:31,667 --> 00:27:33,133
And I'm trying not to, like,
638
00:27:33,167 --> 00:27:34,833
take it super,
super seriously,
639
00:27:34,867 --> 00:27:36,100
let him process through.
640
00:27:36,133 --> 00:27:37,433
Maybe this is just COVID.
641
00:27:38,933 --> 00:27:41,667
But it's been really,
really difficult.
642
00:27:44,633 --> 00:27:45,800
Today is the day.
643
00:27:45,833 --> 00:27:48,467
Sol and Ari.
A little more distanced.
644
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,633
Okay. Let's just
do this right
645
00:27:50,667 --> 00:27:51,967
so we can do it again.
646
00:27:53,067 --> 00:27:54,300
I'm gonna be honest,
647
00:27:54,333 --> 00:27:57,467
we've hung out at
Janelle's house a few times.
648
00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:58,633
I just had to choose.
You know,
649
00:27:58,667 --> 00:28:00,933
it came down choosing
between Janelle and Kody.
650
00:28:00,967 --> 00:28:04,433
And... I chose
Janelle sometimes.
651
00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:21,933
Today,
I'm at Coyote Pass.
652
00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:24,167
I'm working with the boys,
digging the new fire pits.
653
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,533
We're expanding
our family area
654
00:28:26,567 --> 00:28:27,700
so we can gather tonight
655
00:28:27,733 --> 00:28:31,533
for sort of
a farewell... dinner
656
00:28:31,567 --> 00:28:33,833
for Hunter before
he leaves for Baltimore.
657
00:28:34,933 --> 00:28:36,200
Today is the day.
658
00:28:36,233 --> 00:28:37,433
Look at the pitch go.
659
00:28:37,467 --> 00:28:39,267
It'll be the first time
we're getting together
660
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:41,300
as a family
in like five months.
661
00:28:41,333 --> 00:28:42,767
I'm actually really excited.
662
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,667
It's like
it's more just like relief.
663
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:48,200
I'm just looking forward
to that, that moment
664
00:28:48,233 --> 00:28:50,200
when we can just
all relax on the property
665
00:28:50,233 --> 00:28:52,333
and be in each other's
company again.
666
00:28:52,367 --> 00:28:53,833
Listen to me, my boys.
667
00:28:53,867 --> 00:28:56,133
You need to be respectful
and stay socially distanced.
668
00:28:56,167 --> 00:28:57,667
Mom, we've already...
we know.
669
00:28:57,700 --> 00:28:59,067
Okay.
- We are also
670
00:28:59,067 --> 00:29:00,933
- practicing social distances.
- Don't talk to my mother
that way.
671
00:29:00,967 --> 00:29:02,733
- You got it, Mom.
- Yes.
672
00:29:02,767 --> 00:29:03,833
I will do as you say.
673
00:29:03,867 --> 00:29:05,133
I'm just trying to make sure
674
00:29:05,167 --> 00:29:07,867
this is a successful gathering
and we do it again.
675
00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:09,267
Yeah.
I've already told my dad,
676
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:13,133
"I think socially distancing
as a family is dumb."
677
00:29:13,167 --> 00:29:15,900
I think it's stupid.
It's the parents' decision
678
00:29:15,933 --> 00:29:18,167
and so I'll stand by that.
679
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,333
But I don't know
680
00:29:19,367 --> 00:29:20,700
when the next time
I'll be home is, so
681
00:29:20,733 --> 00:29:22,867
just trying and enjoy
the time I have with them.
682
00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:27,233
Yeah. Things between
Kody and I
683
00:29:27,267 --> 00:29:29,433
are a little stiff right now.
But it's a family barbecue,
684
00:29:29,467 --> 00:29:31,300
and we haven't gotten
together for so long.
685
00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:32,867
So all of that's just
put away,
686
00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:36,233
and we're just
going to have a great time.
687
00:29:36,267 --> 00:29:39,067
You know, we haven't all
been on the same page
688
00:29:39,067 --> 00:29:40,767
about how to manage COVID.
689
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,600
So I'm hoping that everybody
can kind of just
690
00:29:43,633 --> 00:29:47,367
respect Kody's wishes
about how we do this today
691
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,733
so that we can
maybe do it again.
692
00:29:48,767 --> 00:29:49,833
Hi, Meri!
693
00:29:52,367 --> 00:29:53,500
Meri!
694
00:29:55,067 --> 00:29:57,400
Yeah, tell her that's...
that's it. That's good.
695
00:29:57,433 --> 00:29:58,767
- That's good.
- That's good.
696
00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:04,367
I'm actually excited
to see everybody.
697
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,433
It's gonna
be kind of a big bummer
698
00:30:06,467 --> 00:30:09,500
that, you know,
we can't do like all the hugs
699
00:30:09,533 --> 00:30:12,267
because, like,
I am so ready for a hug.
700
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:15,833
But... being able to see
everybody is gonna be good.
701
00:30:15,867 --> 00:30:17,733
So where should we land?
702
00:30:17,767 --> 00:30:19,667
Look at this. It's beautiful.
703
00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:21,467
I think Kody needs
one more fire pit
704
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,333
and one more table.
705
00:30:23,367 --> 00:30:26,867
Like there's three fire pits,
but there's four wives.
706
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:29,133
And we all
have to stay separated.
707
00:30:29,167 --> 00:30:30,433
I think it's strange.
708
00:30:30,467 --> 00:30:32,933
I'm glad that he has
the three separate pits,
709
00:30:32,967 --> 00:30:35,367
but I think we need
one more, right?
710
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,067
- Gabe, can you make
a couple more spots?
Yes.
711
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,633
Oh, my gosh.
I do not need a fire pit.
712
00:30:40,667 --> 00:30:42,800
This is just me.
I don't need a fire pit.
713
00:30:42,833 --> 00:30:44,933
I'm probably not gonna have
a s'more anyway.
714
00:30:46,033 --> 00:30:47,100
Hey, you guys,
715
00:30:47,133 --> 00:30:50,067
can we have everybody's
attention real fast?
716
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,667
Hey, everybody, listen.
717
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:55,433
Ysabel and I
have some news to share.
718
00:30:55,467 --> 00:30:58,533
Ysabel is finally getting
her surgery on her back.
719
00:30:58,567 --> 00:30:59,767
- Whoo!
Yay!
720
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,900
Whoo-hoo-hoo!
721
00:31:00,933 --> 00:31:02,467
We finally have
an appointment
722
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:03,833
for Ysabel for her surgery.
723
00:31:03,867 --> 00:31:05,633
It's about six weeks away.
724
00:31:05,667 --> 00:31:07,267
We found out
that Ysabel had scoliosis
725
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,333
when she was
like 13 in middle school.
726
00:31:09,367 --> 00:31:12,367
And it's been
about four years now
727
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,533
that she's... just been
in so much pain.
728
00:31:15,567 --> 00:31:17,800
We finally have the date.
729
00:31:17,833 --> 00:31:19,467
So it's a special surgery
730
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:22,133
where they go
in through the side of her.
731
00:31:22,167 --> 00:31:26,367
She ends up having about
a four-inch scar
under her arm.
732
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,067
Scars are badass.
I mean, bad as, sorry.
733
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,067
Don't tell Kody this.
This is a secret.
734
00:31:31,067 --> 00:31:32,400
Are you ready for a secret?
735
00:31:32,433 --> 00:31:34,067
So Ysabel goes,
736
00:31:34,067 --> 00:31:36,267
"I'm gonna get the scoliosis
surgery. I'm gonna
have that big, huge scar.
737
00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:38,933
So I honestly would like
a tattoo going down the scar.
738
00:31:38,967 --> 00:31:40,067
What do you think about that?"
739
00:31:40,067 --> 00:31:41,067
And I'm like...
740
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,200
I don't think I should
say the rest.
741
00:31:47,233 --> 00:31:50,633
But I said, "Yes, definitely."
742
00:31:50,667 --> 00:31:52,533
And when we were raised,
like when I was raised,
743
00:31:52,567 --> 00:31:55,667
like tattoos were
extremely forbidden.
744
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:58,967
And Kody is so adamantly
opposed to tattoos.
745
00:31:59,067 --> 00:32:01,200
I doubt she's told him.
746
00:32:01,233 --> 00:32:04,300
But I mean, she's gonna be
18 and moving out.
747
00:32:05,333 --> 00:32:06,533
I guess how he
feels about it...
748
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,067
doesn't really
matter because
749
00:32:10,067 --> 00:32:11,900
she won't be living at home
when she gets one.
750
00:32:13,067 --> 00:32:15,667
They go in. And instead
of using the rods,
751
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:18,500
we were able to find someone
that does fibers.
752
00:32:18,533 --> 00:32:20,533
So they're gonna
screw fibers
753
00:32:20,567 --> 00:32:25,467
into her spine instead
of the big, huge rods.
754
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:28,567
And this way, she'll have
more movement.
755
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,267
He's like, "Can't give you
a like 100% success rate"
756
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:35,200
because the fibers do break,
they do snap.
757
00:32:35,233 --> 00:32:37,067
They use so many
fibers, though,
758
00:32:37,067 --> 00:32:39,067
that when they snap,
it's okay.
759
00:32:39,067 --> 00:32:41,767
Even though
it's COVID right now,
760
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,933
we're still gonna
get the surgery.
761
00:32:43,967 --> 00:32:46,067
Like, Kody can't come
with us to the surgery
762
00:32:46,067 --> 00:32:47,533
because of COVID.
763
00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:49,600
And he would love it
if we waited
764
00:32:49,633 --> 00:32:51,500
so he could come too.
765
00:32:51,533 --> 00:32:54,267
But waiting isn't an option.
Ysabel's in too much pain.
766
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:55,633
We need to get it done.
767
00:32:55,667 --> 00:32:58,333
She is really...
really sad about that.
768
00:32:58,367 --> 00:33:01,167
She really wants
her dad there so badly.
769
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,867
That's the hardest part
right there
770
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:04,833
is that Kody can't come
to the surgery.
771
00:33:04,867 --> 00:33:06,200
I'm so excited for you...
772
00:33:06,233 --> 00:33:07,600
It's awesome, right?
- Ysabel.
773
00:33:07,633 --> 00:33:10,267
- That's gonna be so awesome.
- And you know
what's great about it?
774
00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:12,333
Everything about this way
775
00:33:12,367 --> 00:33:15,767
is so much better because
the rate of infection,
776
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,067
the rate of having
to have a surgery again.
777
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:19,900
Ysabel and Christine are
gonna be gone for a month
778
00:33:19,933 --> 00:33:21,967
and then they have
to quarantine before
779
00:33:22,067 --> 00:33:23,067
and then after.
780
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:25,400
So we're talking about
a six-week process,
781
00:33:25,433 --> 00:33:26,933
and it's just not
good for me to be away
782
00:33:26,967 --> 00:33:29,633
from all the other family
for that length of time.
783
00:33:29,667 --> 00:33:30,833
That's exciting.
784
00:33:30,867 --> 00:33:32,200
Yeah.
Thank you.
785
00:33:32,233 --> 00:33:34,500
- Congrats, Izzy.
Yay. Yay. Yay!
786
00:33:34,533 --> 00:33:37,100
We do hugs.
But, you know,
hashtag COVID.
787
00:33:37,133 --> 00:33:42,067
We have all been... kind of
on this journey with Ysabel
788
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:45,733
as she's gone through
her scoliosis issues
789
00:33:45,767 --> 00:33:49,200
and everybody's excited.
The kids are cute about it.
790
00:33:49,233 --> 00:33:50,533
They're all rooting for her.
791
00:33:50,567 --> 00:33:53,600
Sol and Ari,
a little more distance.
792
00:33:53,633 --> 00:33:55,967
Hey... hey. Distance.
793
00:33:56,067 --> 00:33:58,067
- This way, Ari. Ariella.
- Come on.
794
00:33:58,067 --> 00:34:01,433
It's like, "Okay. Let's just
do this right so that
795
00:34:01,467 --> 00:34:03,100
Dad will see
that we're doing it right
796
00:34:03,133 --> 00:34:04,433
so we can do it again."
797
00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:07,067
I think you guys
are the same.
798
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:08,933
- It's really difficult.
- Okay, we'll call it the same.
799
00:34:08,967 --> 00:34:10,633
Look, I'm gonna be
honest with you.
800
00:34:10,667 --> 00:34:13,300
This is real honesty here.
801
00:34:13,333 --> 00:34:15,533
We've hung out at Janelle's
house a few times,
802
00:34:15,567 --> 00:34:16,633
my kids and I.
803
00:34:16,667 --> 00:34:20,067
So... even though
Kody's like...
804
00:34:21,433 --> 00:34:22,833
No.
805
00:34:22,867 --> 00:34:24,433
I just had to choose.
You know, it came down
806
00:34:24,467 --> 00:34:26,467
to choosing between
Janelle and Kody, and...
807
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,700
I chose Janelle sometimes.
808
00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:39,567
Ari, stay away
from everybody.
809
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,433
I'm trying not to get, like,
810
00:34:41,467 --> 00:34:44,467
frustrated, but I'm the one
chasing the kids.
811
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:46,067
It's what I thought
was gonna happen.
812
00:34:46,067 --> 00:34:48,067
We just want to
keep on playing.
813
00:34:48,067 --> 00:34:51,067
You guys have to stay, like,
distant from each other.
814
00:34:51,067 --> 00:34:52,133
I'm trying.
815
00:34:52,167 --> 00:34:55,600
I'm just this big jerk.
"Stay away from each other!"
816
00:35:09,067 --> 00:35:10,600
So this feels so normal,
817
00:35:10,633 --> 00:35:13,200
we've got the fires
and everybody's here,
818
00:35:13,233 --> 00:35:16,133
and it just feels jovial.
819
00:35:16,167 --> 00:35:17,333
It's wonderful.
820
00:35:19,667 --> 00:35:22,433
Okay, remember.
You're staying six feet apart.
821
00:35:22,467 --> 00:35:24,967
We're staying together.
And yet apart.
822
00:35:25,067 --> 00:35:26,700
Yeah, no, it is stressful.
823
00:35:26,733 --> 00:35:29,567
I'm supposed to help
the kids maintain...
824
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,933
this... six feet protocol.
825
00:35:31,967 --> 00:35:35,267
And I'm just like...
and it's so not
part of their nature.
826
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:37,067
I mean, it's so not normal.
827
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,467
Not to close, Truely.
828
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:43,067
Meri... will you tell them
to stay away?
829
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,267
Ari, stay away
from everybody!
830
00:35:48,733 --> 00:35:51,733
Truely, if she starts
walking towards you...
831
00:35:51,767 --> 00:35:52,767
back up.
832
00:35:56,167 --> 00:35:58,467
Ari... you have got to
833
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:00,533
like keep your distance
from people.
834
00:36:00,567 --> 00:36:01,867
I keep telling them.
835
00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:04,367
I'm trying not to
get frustrated
836
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,200
'cause I don't want
to ruin the experience
for everybody.
837
00:36:07,233 --> 00:36:09,633
But I'm the one
chasing the kids.
838
00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:13,067
It's what I thought was
gonna happen, so.
839
00:36:13,067 --> 00:36:15,467
I'm trying, Robyn.
I'm trying.
840
00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:17,200
Ariella is only
four years old.
841
00:36:17,233 --> 00:36:19,633
She gets to be
with Solomon all the time.
842
00:36:19,667 --> 00:36:21,067
The two of them are out here,
843
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:24,067
and then there's Truely
who she has to stay away from.
844
00:36:24,067 --> 00:36:26,633
And then I have to be
away from them as well.
845
00:36:26,667 --> 00:36:28,733
That's just not normal...
kid behavior.
846
00:36:28,767 --> 00:36:30,900
So I'm sure it's kind of
difficult for them.
847
00:36:30,933 --> 00:36:33,067
We just want to
keep on playing.
848
00:36:33,067 --> 00:36:34,200
I know you
want to play.
849
00:36:34,233 --> 00:36:36,900
But you guys have to stay
distant from each other.
850
00:36:36,933 --> 00:36:38,267
I'm trying.
851
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:39,533
I'm just this big jerk,
852
00:36:39,567 --> 00:36:41,767
"Stay away from each other!
853
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,933
You're brothers and sisters
and you love each other,
854
00:36:43,967 --> 00:36:46,267
but don't touch each other!"
855
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:49,067
I'm trying as hard as I can
to follow the rules. Okay?
856
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,333
And I am really aware
that you're doing that.
857
00:36:51,367 --> 00:36:53,167
- Okay.
I'm supposed to
be helping you
858
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,467
and I kind of checked out.
859
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:56,267
Okay.
860
00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:59,433
Who wants to sit
and abide by these protocols
861
00:36:59,467 --> 00:37:02,433
for four months
and then get...
862
00:37:02,467 --> 00:37:04,867
sick once because they
let their guard down?
863
00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:06,767
And I realize that
it's a burden to Robyn
864
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,067
to be able to do this.
865
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,067
Hey, you guys,
Dayton.
866
00:37:10,067 --> 00:37:12,667
Dayton and Garrison, I need to
respect your mom.
867
00:37:13,733 --> 00:37:15,833
Ari, Sol! Sol!
868
00:37:15,867 --> 00:37:19,533
Solomon! Truely. You guys are
supposed to be six feet apart.
869
00:37:19,567 --> 00:37:21,167
Truely!
870
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,933
Make sure you keep
your distance.
871
00:37:23,967 --> 00:37:26,100
I will.
- You're the best.
872
00:37:26,133 --> 00:37:28,067
Truely has missed
everyone so much.
873
00:37:28,067 --> 00:37:30,700
She has missed Sol and Ari
so much.
874
00:37:30,733 --> 00:37:33,733
We'll do our best
to maintain that. But...
875
00:37:33,767 --> 00:37:36,533
she is really glad
to be here with everybody.
876
00:37:36,567 --> 00:37:37,833
It's really nice.
877
00:37:39,733 --> 00:37:41,100
That's perfect, Meri.
878
00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:42,500
It's got a little bit of
chocolate on it.
879
00:37:42,533 --> 00:37:44,333
You did that for me?
Yeah.
880
00:37:44,367 --> 00:37:46,600
Kody made me a s'more.
881
00:37:46,633 --> 00:37:49,400
I'm gonna... I'm gonna
tell a secret,
882
00:37:49,433 --> 00:37:52,900
and I saw Robyn tell him
to make it for me.
883
00:37:52,933 --> 00:37:55,333
And I'm okay with that 'cause
he still made it for me.
884
00:37:56,500 --> 00:38:00,267
Kody, that is divine!
885
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:02,300
To me, this is just kind of
what it's all about,
886
00:38:02,333 --> 00:38:05,667
like we're meant to have
each other's backs.
887
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:07,967
That's so good.
888
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,867
I don't know...
889
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:14,733
I don't know what
you're talking about.
890
00:38:16,167 --> 00:38:17,567
But we can do this.
891
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,833
- Yeah, this is gonna be fine.
- This is functional, I think.
892
00:38:19,867 --> 00:38:23,467
We haven't done anything
together for so long.
893
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:25,967
And it's almost like
I was nervous.
894
00:38:26,067 --> 00:38:27,833
I was really nervous
that we would get together,
895
00:38:27,867 --> 00:38:29,800
and it would be awkward.
896
00:38:29,833 --> 00:38:32,667
Once everybody got there...
897
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:34,067
it was just apparent that
898
00:38:34,067 --> 00:38:36,133
we've all missed each other
really badly.
899
00:38:36,167 --> 00:38:38,967
Maybe we all...
Like, we all quarantine
900
00:38:39,067 --> 00:38:40,067
for like two weeks and then
901
00:38:40,067 --> 00:38:41,733
we can do
the holidays together, right?
902
00:38:41,767 --> 00:38:44,333
If we want to do that
or if we want to do it
903
00:38:44,367 --> 00:38:47,067
to where only the mothers
even go to town...
904
00:38:48,367 --> 00:38:50,100
or leave the homes,
905
00:38:50,133 --> 00:38:51,233
then we can do that.
906
00:38:51,267 --> 00:38:53,233
Hopefully, we'll have
a better idea
907
00:38:53,267 --> 00:38:55,233
of what it looks like when
we get closer, huh, maybe?
908
00:38:55,267 --> 00:38:56,833
- Yeah.
The only reason
we're doing this,
909
00:38:56,867 --> 00:38:59,067
you guys, is so that
I can see everybody.
910
00:39:00,133 --> 00:39:02,200
Maybe we can have
Thanksgiving right here.
911
00:39:02,233 --> 00:39:04,100
Not in the winter.
- Are you kidding me?
912
00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:07,233
He can come here if he wants,
but I am not coming here.
913
00:39:07,267 --> 00:39:10,133
I have no interest in having
Thanksgiving right here
914
00:39:10,167 --> 00:39:12,333
in the middle of dirt
and probably cold.
915
00:39:12,367 --> 00:39:14,600
Is he clocking
the weather situation?
916
00:39:14,633 --> 00:39:16,133
Thanksgiving, it snows.
917
00:39:16,167 --> 00:39:18,133
Tons of snow. I don't know
if we can drive out here.
918
00:39:19,367 --> 00:39:22,433
Why? Why can't we
just not discuss COVID?
919
00:39:22,467 --> 00:39:25,633
I think that
Thanksgiving and Christmas
should be exceptions.
920
00:39:25,667 --> 00:39:27,967
Well, just as I told you,
921
00:39:28,067 --> 00:39:30,800
what we do is... is for we...
922
00:39:30,833 --> 00:39:32,133
we figure it out.
923
00:39:32,167 --> 00:39:34,733
We make a plan.
We abide by the plan
924
00:39:34,767 --> 00:39:35,867
and then we do it.
925
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:37,633
You know, with
a family like ours
926
00:39:37,667 --> 00:39:41,100
where we're a very large
family, but we're very close,
927
00:39:41,133 --> 00:39:43,567
I feel so distant
from the rest of them.
928
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,067
My relationship with Gabe
and Savanah and my mom
929
00:39:46,067 --> 00:39:51,667
has definitely improved,
but at the cost of losing
my relationship
930
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:53,633
with Robyn's
and Christine's kids.
931
00:39:53,667 --> 00:39:54,867
I kind of agree with that.
932
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:56,267
I'm tired of the... of the...
933
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:00,300
I'm really tired of it.
I want my family back.
934
00:40:00,333 --> 00:40:02,400
We'll have a much
better idea when we get
closer.
935
00:40:02,433 --> 00:40:04,867
Yeah, it might
look really different
by the time we get there.
936
00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:06,167
- It's hard to say.
- It's only August.
937
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,700
What, this started in,
what, March?
938
00:40:07,733 --> 00:40:10,333
March. We've only
been at it for...
939
00:40:10,367 --> 00:40:11,633
- Five months.
-...five months.
940
00:40:11,667 --> 00:40:13,267
Now, look, we're
having this great time.
941
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:14,800
We're all here together.
942
00:40:14,833 --> 00:40:15,900
I don't think we need
to bring
943
00:40:15,933 --> 00:40:18,333
this conversation topic up
right this minute.
944
00:40:18,367 --> 00:40:19,633
It can't be solved.
945
00:40:19,667 --> 00:40:21,000
It can't be solved right now.
946
00:40:21,033 --> 00:40:22,067
So why bring it up?
947
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:23,500
I know people
who have nearly died.
948
00:40:23,533 --> 00:40:25,000
I know them personally.
So let's just be...
949
00:40:25,033 --> 00:40:26,967
- personally people...
- I know people who
have gotten it...
950
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,433
- and had zero symptoms.
- Guys, this is...
951
00:40:28,467 --> 00:40:30,533
hey, this is not
the conversation
we're having tonight.
952
00:40:30,567 --> 00:40:32,367
No, no. It's serious.
It's serious.
953
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,800
I get that. But as a family...
954
00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:36,500
I think we should be
quarantined together.
955
00:40:36,533 --> 00:40:38,200
I'm literally suffering
956
00:40:38,233 --> 00:40:41,333
from hurt feelings
by my family's refusal...
957
00:40:41,367 --> 00:40:44,967
to abide by
COVID quarantine protocols.
958
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,167
I want to do the right thing.
959
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,967
And... it's breaking
my heart that I...
960
00:40:53,567 --> 00:40:55,567
have been marginalized
to the point where I am
961
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,400
no longer the head
of my household
962
00:40:57,433 --> 00:40:58,500
in a couple of homes.
963
00:41:06,733 --> 00:41:09,067
Everyone pretty
much kept their distance
964
00:41:09,067 --> 00:41:10,567
for the most part.
965
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,200
But it was... it was
a really good time.
966
00:41:14,233 --> 00:41:18,367
This whole
family get-together
social distance style,
967
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,400
it's just not what
our family does
968
00:41:20,433 --> 00:41:24,233
and it's... it's kind of hard.
It's sad.
969
00:41:24,267 --> 00:41:26,600
You know,
other than just kind of
chasing little kids around,
970
00:41:26,633 --> 00:41:28,200
you know, I enjoyed it.
971
00:41:28,233 --> 00:41:31,133
And I wish we could do
this more often. I really do.
972
00:41:31,167 --> 00:41:34,733
It's nice to see my family.
I love them.
973
00:41:34,767 --> 00:41:37,700
I've noticed that
it's really, really important
974
00:41:37,733 --> 00:41:39,500
for our family
to get together.
975
00:41:39,533 --> 00:41:41,733
I think it's been
a really dangerous thing...
976
00:41:42,867 --> 00:41:44,933
because when we don't
get together often,
977
00:41:44,967 --> 00:41:46,400
we lose sight of the whole.
978
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:54,733
Next time
on Sister Wives...
979
00:41:54,767 --> 00:41:57,633
We found out that Ysabel
had scoliosis when she was 14.
980
00:41:57,667 --> 00:41:58,967
She has to get surgery.
981
00:41:59,067 --> 00:42:00,200
I'm sorry I can't go.
982
00:42:00,233 --> 00:42:03,567
She's going off to have
a major surgery done.
983
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,967
And I can't hug her.
984
00:42:05,067 --> 00:42:06,100
Thanks, Dad. I love you.
985
00:42:06,133 --> 00:42:07,733
I don't know,
why wouldn't he be there?
986
00:42:07,767 --> 00:42:09,933
Why wouldn't he just drop
everything for me?
987
00:42:11,133 --> 00:42:13,267
This conversation about
988
00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:16,200
how to divide up the property
is a long time coming.
989
00:42:16,233 --> 00:42:18,533
It's been two years,
we just need to get out there.
990
00:42:20,733 --> 00:42:23,067
I would move to Utah
in a heartbeat.
Are you kidding me?
991
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:24,600
Is it on the table still?
992
00:42:24,633 --> 00:42:27,133
No, it's not on the table.
993
00:42:27,167 --> 00:42:28,700
I'm not gonna talk to you.
994
00:42:28,733 --> 00:42:30,733
Look, he's not even
my friend right now.
995
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:33,567
Feels like a bit
of a crossroads.
996
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,700
I don't know what to do.