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Previously on Sister Wives .
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I present the family
the idea of a one home.
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But I realized, this is
a dogma of my religion.
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If you're in love with
two women and you're married
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to them and they don't
really like each other,
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having them live together
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would be
soul killing for them.
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And Christine and I have had
our little struggle
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because it doesn't
work for her.
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It wasn't a little struggle,
mind you.
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Why didn't he listen to
what I said in the past,
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like, five or six years?
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I don't want to live
together again. God.
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We've actually decided
to move back to Utah.
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Isn't this exciting thing
you've ever heard
in your whole life?
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Yeah.
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It's time for us to be home.
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Especially now that we're
really starting to think about
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like what starting a family
looks like for us.
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-Don't worry.
We'll get married first.
-Yeah.
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So, you're not getting married
in Chicago either anymore.
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No. We're going to get married
in Salt Lake.
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I'm so excited to help them
start planning the wedding.
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I'm just saying.
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We will have to decide
what we really want.
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Do you want to have
a relationship
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with your sister wife?
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I don't see
my sister wives very often.
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We do think separate now.
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Honestly, I just don't think
my wives
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really want to be together
that much
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because if they did,
they would.
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A while back
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Janelle asked the five of us
to go have lunch together,
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and kind of just discuss where
we're at
with our relationships.
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Yeah, I'm sure everybody
hates me all the time.
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And then when I get together
for family gatherings
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I'm like,
why would I want to go?
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Because it's just gonna be
a hostile environment.
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And no one there
even likes me.
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I've just felt like I needed
to talk to her more about it.
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I just, I'm concerned for her.
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Come in.
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Knock, knock. Hey.
-Hi, sweetie.
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Christine and I have had
ups and downs with each other.
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There's times, when we have
gotten along really well.
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and there's times,
that plural marriage
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has ruled its ugly head
and jealousy kind of reins
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and so sometimes it's good.
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Sometimes it's not so great.
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And we just kind of go
with the flow of that.
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Hey, you, What's up?
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-Oh, just, I'm good.
-Driving by?
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No, I wanted to come
talk to you.
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Oh, God.
-Not that's kind of talk.
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It's just... Oh gosh.
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It just got I don't really
enjoy conversations at all.
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I just don't like being
that vulnerable.
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I put myself out there
and afterwards
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I'm like, "Oh my gosh,
I was an idiot."
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you know, when we went
and had dinner
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and, Janelle, like,
sat us down
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had that heavy, intense
conversation and stuff.
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You said something about
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when you come
to family gatherings
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you're sitting there,
worried whether or not
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people are hating you.
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-I mean, that's a strong word,
but I do worry sometimes.
-That's okay.
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So I know that my imagination,
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and the conversations
that I have in my head,
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aren't always
the most healthy things.
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I think that I've always been
this way, just looking back
with Mary and Janelle.
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When it was just
the three of us.
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It was the same kind of thing.
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I didn't always know
if they were mad at me
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or frustrated with me.
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It's just hard.
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It's just hard to know
what to do.
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I just want to speak
for myself.
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I can't I mean, I don't know
what their relationships are.
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So I'm just saying,
like for me, Robyn,
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Robyn does not feel
that way about Christine.
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-Thank you.
-Does that make sense?
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I wouldn't imagine that
anybody hates Christine
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just because I don't see that
kind of behavior from them.
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But I don't know.
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Maybe somebody's
a really good actor.
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I don't know.
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Do you want anything for
breakfast? You're hungry?
I'm hungry.
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-Yeah, sure.
-Do you want a parfait?
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Sure. Yeah.
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Before family gathering,
I think about it a lot.
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If it's in my house,
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then I know what to do
to prepare for it,
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to try and make it so
everybody feels comfortable.
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But when I go into to one
of my sister wives' homes,
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I don't know how to feel safe.
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I don't know how to be me
in their home.
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Yeah, super uncomfortable
to even admit it because
I sound stupid.
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You said something recently,
where you said,
it's hard for us
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to go into someone's house,
too, because we don't know
what role,
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we don't know who we are
in someone else's home.
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You know, I know who I am
in my house.
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I know what my role is.
I know my identity is well.
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Well, we share that role
so much for the time.
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I don't think everybody
quite understands
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they're also sharing the role
of mother constantly.
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Oh, yeah.
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There's some tension
that can happen
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between the sister wives from
that sharing of those roles.
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You got a kid sitting here
doing something and
then needs mothering.
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Do you step in or don't you?
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You're sharing that role
with the other moms.
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We go to someone else's house,
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we walk in and you're like,
okay, this is her home.
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-Yeah.
-You kind of like
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you've sort of almost stepped
down just a little, I feel.
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She's like Queen Wife.
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-Well, kind of, I mean.
-Kind of.
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But it is. She gets final say.
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I think when we have
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a gathering in a wife's home
that she's going to decide
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what we eat
and how it's served,
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and she's going to create
all of that.
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It's her home, so she should
be able to be
the most important.
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Make the final decision, you
know, because it's her home.
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It's your domain
and it's your castle.
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It is yours.
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And so there's a term
of respect that goes with that
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and you should be
able to be in charge.
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You should be able
to make the call.
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Personally, I don't like
the term queen wife
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or Queen Bee or, you know,
whatever is used.
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I've heard a lot
in the plural community,
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and it's definitely got
a negative connotation.
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When my sister wives come
into my home or when I go
into their home.
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I don't think it has anything
to do with who's Queen Wife.
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It has to do with,
"This is their home.
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"And I'm going
to respect her space."
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Being able to say something,
it would be like a value,
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is important to us.
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You know what we want
to matter. We want to count.
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And now you know about
the one house versus
poor separate houses.
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-Really?
-Yeah.
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The one house was so hard,
I never felt like I was queen.
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Wife or Queen Mom. Never.
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Everybody just needs
came before mine.
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And everybody's, all the kids'
whose needs came before
my kids too.
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Janelle was gone all the time.
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And so I was kind,
like her kid's mom, too.
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So it really mattered that
I stood up firmly for her kids
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and so I would put the needs
of my kids after that.
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And they still, I love them,
and I took care of them.
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But I could have done better.
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So we needed
to take the basement.
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Not fun, not a fun choice
to make, it was super hard.
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I hated it. Yeah, because
I hate conversation so bad.
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I just put my needs last,
every single time.
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In the plural community there
is certainly
a basement wife mentality.
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If you have a situation where
there's a wife,
it's a queen bee.
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While the other wife goes
in the basement and
she doesn't matter as much.
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And I've seen it enough.
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I've seen it a lot.
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I put myself in the basement
and became a basement wife,
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and I just feel like I stopped
having a choice
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and I didn't really matter
as much.
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I have never really
heard or thought about
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somebody being called
the basement wife.
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You know,
we've had plenty of houses
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where I lived in the basement.
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Like, one house,
there was a small kitchenette
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type thing in the basement,
and it was dark.
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I mean, it wasn't quite like
what Christine had,
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where she could actually
see out the windows,
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like it was a true basement.
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And so there was
some separation, but I never
felt like it was a stigma.
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It was more like separation
for me to live downstairs,
so to speak.
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-I'm so sorry.
-It was hard.
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So moving back to that, no,
I don't care if Kody said
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it's different because
there's thicker walls.
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-Space or whatever.
-That doesn't matter.
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I would never be queen
over my domain.
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I'm not doing it again.
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I'm not going to put myself
in a situation where
my kids' needs aren't met.
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I'm not going to do it.
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Also having
a back door entrance.
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That was a really,
really bad thing that,
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-I didn't feel like it was
Kody's house.
-Back door entrance?
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I had a back door entrance.
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So it's like Kody would
come in, dump all of his stuff
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at Meri's house
or Janelle's house.
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Never settle in mine.
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He wouldn't shower there.
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-He didn't get dressed there.
-I heard about that.
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Yeah, until I find
that brought it up to him.
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And I said, when you marry
Robyn, you're going to shower
at her house
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and he's like, "Well, yeah",
I said that I need you
showering here.
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It's like I do everything
that I can to make my home,
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our home is like, Well,
Meri's shower's just better.
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I'm like, "I don't care."
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I don't care, because what
you're saying is,
"I don't matter."
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So he did.
He started showering,
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but I think it's also because
Robyn said something.
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Honestly.
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I mentioned it a lot over
the years,
and he didn't change it
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and didn't change it.
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And it wasn't until Robyn's
coming in the family
that he changed it.
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I hated it.
It really, really bothered me.
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That was the fourth year
we were living there,
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and he's still
didn't shower there.
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I mean, this is not something
that Christine and I have
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ever talked about, but I know
that she has problem,
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that he never
showered at her house,
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but honestly, it was nothing
that ever came from me.
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I never asked Kody
to shower at my house.
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Like, I didn't care
where he showered.
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It's like, "You want me
to move back to that?"
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Thank you for bringing that
up to him. It wasn't okay.
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Christine's memory of our
experience in Lehi
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was that I never
showered at her house,
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which isn't actually true,
I showered at her house a lot.
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I tended to shower more often
at Meri's house in the morning
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because Meri would be
going to work.
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I would visit with Meri.
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Then I would have
breakfast every morning
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at Christine's house
before I went to work.
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And so I felt like
I was balancing out something in the relationship.
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And so what I see Christine
doing is that she twists
the past experiences
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that we've had to a negative
place, and that's the reason
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she's not wanting
to be in one home.
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So it's not about
the one home thing.
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It's about how she has twisted
our past and made it negative.
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I need to talk to Kody.
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I feel like everything
just kind of bad
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with Kody and I after honestly
because he took so personal.
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-He took it so personal.
-Yeah, but it's not.
237
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-I know that he...
-It's not really
that personal.
238
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It's an identity.
239
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I think it's because it's,
in his head,
240
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It's about his family.
241
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But he's got to realize that
everybody has to choose it.
242
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I can't keep bringing it up
all the time.
243
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-But nor can it cause
such a bad situation.
-No, that's not fair.
244
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I think Kody needs to hear
what Christine
has just told me,
245
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and that might be hard
for him to hear.
246
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Time to have conversation
with him for
a blunt, outspoken person
247
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about this thing he feels
passionate about.
248
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You're just going to have
to get that brave part
of yourself and say it.
249
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I know it's not always fun.
250
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-No, it's not. Yucky.
251
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So I think that we don't have
to do anything together.
252
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-We actually don't.
-Oh, gosh.
253
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If I'm in a rough spot
with Kody,
254
00:11:59,275 --> 00:12:03,482
it's really difficult
to contribute
to a sister wife relationship.
255
00:12:03,517 --> 00:12:06,482
You know that she's
actually trying to sabotage
256
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your relationship with Kody,
257
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You can't trust her.
258
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How are you friends
with someone you can't trust?
259
00:12:25,068 --> 00:12:27,379
So, like, can you tell
me, like,
what the difference was
260
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between living
in one house in Lehi,
261
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and that culture that, I like,
262
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I came to know you guys with
263
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and then, like,
what it was like in Las Vegas.
264
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Like, the difference.
265
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I want to sort of make peace
with the idea
266
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that we aren't living
in one home
267
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because that was the idea
that I bought off on
268
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when I got to know
and marry Kody
269
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and sort of fell in love
with the family.
270
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Was that you know, someday
we might live in one home.
271
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We did the right thing, right?
272
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I just want to know.
273
00:13:00,931 --> 00:13:03,517
Okay, what did Janelle
and Meri talk about
most of the time?
274
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-Because of the kids, right,
we made it work.
-For the kids.
275
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We made it work because
of the kids.
That is what it was.
276
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-We made it work because
of the kids.
-Okay.
277
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I don't know if we would have
chosen to work things out
278
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for any other
reason, necessarily.
279
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-Oh, gosh.
-I don't know.
280
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It is confusing to me,
because I'm like,
281
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"Did I just not see what was
there in front of my face?"
282
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"Did I fall in love with
a culture of a family
that really wasn't real?"
283
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So I think what we're getting
284
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is more organic than
it's more of a choice.
285
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Oh, I think is more between,
because you when you came
in the family,
286
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you stood up
for yourself so much
287
00:13:48,068 --> 00:13:49,793
-and I was like,
what the holy.
-Really?
288
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Yes. I didn't understand
what that was like.
289
00:13:53,413 --> 00:13:54,448
I had no idea.
290
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No way. Like it was safe?
291
00:13:57,034 --> 00:13:58,137
I'm like freaking out here.
292
00:13:58,172 --> 00:13:59,551
It was so good.
293
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Was it harsh?
294
00:14:00,655 --> 00:14:01,724
Was it hard?
295
00:14:01,758 --> 00:14:03,068
No, no, no. Oh, no.
296
00:14:03,103 --> 00:14:05,620
You did great. There were
so many conversations
297
00:14:05,655 --> 00:14:06,724
that you would have with Kody.
298
00:14:06,758 --> 00:14:08,482
-And I was like, "What?"
299
00:14:08,517 --> 00:14:12,000
She gets a choice, she isn't
just told she has to do it?
300
00:14:12,034 --> 00:14:13,758
What does that mean?
301
00:14:13,793 --> 00:14:16,448
You mean, she's fighting
about Christmas?
302
00:14:16,482 --> 00:14:19,448
We couldn't do that. What?
303
00:14:19,482 --> 00:14:21,689
For years, Kody
tried to take Christmas away.
304
00:14:21,724 --> 00:14:22,896
And then Robyn
came in the family.
305
00:14:22,931 --> 00:14:24,482
She started being like,
"That's the stupidest
306
00:14:24,517 --> 00:14:26,068
"thing I've ever heard
in my life."
307
00:14:26,103 --> 00:14:29,000
But she had magical
conversations with Kody
308
00:14:29,034 --> 00:14:31,310
where he would
come back and say
309
00:14:31,344 --> 00:14:34,862
"I think that we need to still
have Christmas"
and things like that.
310
00:14:34,896 --> 00:14:36,551
And she was totally heard.
311
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And it blew my mind.
312
00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:42,206
Because of my religious views
and the way I felt
about Christmas.
313
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I was specifically just trying
to move ourselves away
314
00:14:44,413 --> 00:14:47,551
from such a commercialization
of Christmas.
315
00:14:47,586 --> 00:14:51,655
Robyn talking to me about
being cool about Christmas
316
00:14:51,689 --> 00:14:57,482
was simply an effort to keep
me from taking away
the spirit of Christmas.
317
00:14:57,517 --> 00:14:59,862
Personally, I think it was
just a big misunderstanding.
318
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It did bring a change.
319
00:15:02,758 --> 00:15:04,068
But it was so good.
320
00:15:04,965 --> 00:15:06,758
Do you know became
a stronger person.
321
00:15:06,793 --> 00:15:08,206
-I became a stronger person.
Yeah.
322
00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:12,034
-But you also like...
-I'll get you something.
323
00:15:12,068 --> 00:15:14,689
-What? Oh, you got to get
socks or sweater.
I'm freezing.
324
00:15:14,724 --> 00:15:16,586
Freezing!
All day.
-No, it's cold.
325
00:15:18,172 --> 00:15:20,379
Conversations like this
are hard to have a time limit.
326
00:15:20,413 --> 00:15:22,724
I swear. You have an inner
time limit of an hour
327
00:15:22,758 --> 00:15:26,758
and after an hour,
I'm like, "I need to breathe."
328
00:15:26,793 --> 00:15:28,034
I really...
329
00:15:28,068 --> 00:15:31,000
And so Ah
I'm running.
330
00:15:31,034 --> 00:15:34,448
I'm running away
from all of my problems.
331
00:15:36,862 --> 00:15:39,310
I think it's all good.
And I wanted to tell you...
332
00:15:39,344 --> 00:15:43,241
-I want to...
-Everyone is grandizing,
glorifying the past
333
00:15:43,275 --> 00:15:46,724
like "What we had
was so good", I might
334
00:15:47,931 --> 00:15:49,344
No, it wasn't.
335
00:15:49,379 --> 00:15:53,551
We made it work because
of the kids,
because we had to.
336
00:15:53,586 --> 00:15:55,068
How is that good?
337
00:15:55,103 --> 00:15:57,689
-That's a good point.
-I don't want to have
to do anything.
338
00:15:57,724 --> 00:16:03,000
So when we lived separately
in Vegas, we got back
together again
339
00:16:03,034 --> 00:16:06,896
and we had to figure out the balance in the cul-de-sac,
340
00:16:06,931 --> 00:16:09,620
and it was very different
than it was before.
341
00:16:09,655 --> 00:16:11,862
Well so now we're in Flagstaff we're all separate again.
342
00:16:11,896 --> 00:16:15,034
Then when we move on to
Coyote Pass, it's going to
look different again.
343
00:16:15,068 --> 00:16:20,172
We're just not going to bubble
into this like, oh
where we're all like
344
00:16:20,206 --> 00:16:24,724
best friends and the kids
are all this is just,
this magical all the time.
345
00:16:26,034 --> 00:16:27,137
I don't know.
346
00:16:27,172 --> 00:16:28,172
It's going to be different.
347
00:16:28,206 --> 00:16:29,551
We're going to figure it out.
348
00:16:29,586 --> 00:16:35,448
So I think that the Flagstaff
reset has been
a big, huge reset.
349
00:16:35,482 --> 00:16:39,793
-Yeah.
-We don't have to do
anything together.
350
00:16:40,482 --> 00:16:42,068
-We actually don't.
-No.
351
00:16:42,103 --> 00:16:46,862
I have a full, amazing things
that I do with my girls,
352
00:16:46,896 --> 00:16:50,965
that I love,
but now it's the next step.
353
00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,241
Do we want to just call
people up like a girlfriend?
354
00:16:53,275 --> 00:16:55,275
We want to call each other up
like a girlfriend and say,
355
00:16:55,310 --> 00:16:58,689
"Hey, I really need to go
out to lunch today."
356
00:16:58,724 --> 00:17:00,413
So what's stopping us
from doing that?
357
00:17:00,448 --> 00:17:02,413
Is it because
plural marriage is hard
358
00:17:02,448 --> 00:17:04,689
and living
by ourselves is hard?
359
00:17:04,724 --> 00:17:06,931
-I also get into
my own head a lot.
-Yeah.
360
00:17:06,965 --> 00:17:09,793
and I think that I have
enemies when,
in fact, you guys aren't.
361
00:17:09,827 --> 00:17:14,103
I think that it is easy
to sit there and wonder,
362
00:17:14,137 --> 00:17:15,931
"Do my sister wives love me?"
363
00:17:15,965 --> 00:17:17,068
"Do they care about me?"
364
00:17:17,103 --> 00:17:18,724
"Do they hate me?"
365
00:17:18,758 --> 00:17:22,068
That is something that,
I think, all plural wives
366
00:17:22,103 --> 00:17:24,413
sort of struggle with,
and, I mean, I do.
367
00:17:25,620 --> 00:17:28,517
We're all so connected
and so interconnected
368
00:17:28,551 --> 00:17:30,344
and not only their sister
wife relationship.
369
00:17:30,379 --> 00:17:32,724
There's Kody in there, too.
370
00:17:32,758 --> 00:17:35,896
When I'm in a good spot with Kody,
it's super easy to have
371
00:17:35,931 --> 00:17:38,137
a great relationship
with my sister wives.
372
00:17:38,172 --> 00:17:43,448
But if I'm in a rough spot
with Kody, it's really
difficult to get out of that
373
00:17:43,482 --> 00:17:48,310
and I feel like I want to even
contribute to
a sister wife relationship.
374
00:17:48,344 --> 00:17:51,827
This is something that,
we treat each other
375
00:17:51,862 --> 00:17:53,965
like we're girlfriends
where we're like,
376
00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,724
"Hey, just thinking
about you today.
377
00:17:55,758 --> 00:17:57,241
"I want to know
if everything's okay."
378
00:17:57,275 --> 00:17:59,586
-Yeah.
-Because I do that
to my friends.
379
00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:03,551
-Or I say,
-But that's you choosing
to be safe for your friend.
380
00:18:03,586 --> 00:18:05,448
We have to choose
to be safe for each other.
381
00:18:05,482 --> 00:18:07,103
That's a huge one.
382
00:18:07,137 --> 00:18:11,827
But here's the thing it's like
if you can't trust
your sister wife to look out
383
00:18:11,862 --> 00:18:16,724
for your relationship with
your husband, then
you can't be girlfriends.
384
00:18:16,758 --> 00:18:18,310
You can't be friends.
385
00:18:18,344 --> 00:18:21,482
That has to come like, one of
the first things that you do,
386
00:18:21,517 --> 00:18:23,655
and then you can
be girlfriends.
387
00:18:23,689 --> 00:18:27,965
But if you're sitting there
and you know that she's
actually trying to sabotage
388
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,896
your relationship with Kody,
then you can't trust her.
389
00:18:33,931 --> 00:18:37,103
How are you friends
with someone you can't trust?
390
00:18:37,137 --> 00:18:39,137
-I'm glad you came. Thank you,
thank you.
-Me too.
391
00:18:41,103 --> 00:18:45,793
You know, there's a bond that
is unique to
sister wife relationship
392
00:18:45,827 --> 00:18:48,896
where you're sitting there
going, "We trust each other"
393
00:18:48,931 --> 00:18:52,068
to have each other's back
when it comes to Kody.
394
00:18:52,103 --> 00:18:54,620
and our individual
relationship with him.
395
00:18:54,655 --> 00:18:59,068
And in that place
there is such a depth.
396
00:19:00,172 --> 00:19:02,931
And there's such a closeness
and a connection
397
00:19:02,965 --> 00:19:10,689
and a bond that, um, you can't
get anywhere else.
398
00:19:10,724 --> 00:19:14,862
It's pure love and
it's the potential that
my sister wives
399
00:19:14,896 --> 00:19:17,482
and I have to have
with each other.
400
00:19:21,896 --> 00:19:23,586
We have come up
to Salt Lake City
401
00:19:23,620 --> 00:19:25,758
to look at some
wedding venue options
402
00:19:25,793 --> 00:19:27,103
with Mariah and Audrey.
403
00:19:27,137 --> 00:19:30,517
You guys could walk down
an aisle that
isn't a straight line.
404
00:19:30,551 --> 00:19:31,517
Yeah.
405
00:19:31,551 --> 00:19:32,655
Hey!
406
00:19:34,724 --> 00:19:37,000
Right there!
407
00:19:37,034 --> 00:19:40,034
That just, like, got me
in the feels, you know?
408
00:19:40,068 --> 00:19:41,758
Yeah, we're not strange.
409
00:19:56,931 --> 00:19:58,758
We have come up
the Salt Lake City
410
00:19:58,793 --> 00:20:02,551
to look at some
wedding venue options
with Mariah and Audrey.
411
00:20:02,586 --> 00:20:04,931
They decided to choose
between three
different venues.
412
00:20:04,965 --> 00:20:09,206
One is a botanical garden,
one is a ski resort,
413
00:20:09,241 --> 00:20:12,448
-and the other
is a family farm.
-With a castle.
414
00:20:14,448 --> 00:20:15,862
With a castle.
415
00:20:15,896 --> 00:20:17,965
Are you excited?
Crazy, excited.
416
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,310
I'm excited.
417
00:20:19,344 --> 00:20:24,379
So Mariah came out
to us as gay about
418
00:20:27,482 --> 00:20:32,172
and I will never forget and
always regret my reaction
419
00:20:32,206 --> 00:20:37,862
because I was completely
clueless and I felt like such
a bad mom
420
00:20:37,896 --> 00:20:41,724
like I felt horrible,
I guess is about
421
00:20:41,758 --> 00:20:43,793
maybe three or four months
later,
422
00:20:43,827 --> 00:20:46,551
she introduced us to Audrey.
423
00:20:46,586 --> 00:20:50,000
I have absolutely love seeing
their relationship blossom.
424
00:20:50,034 --> 00:20:53,241
They are so good for
each other.
425
00:20:53,275 --> 00:20:55,344
Now they're planning their
wedding.
426
00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:56,931
It's kind of fun.
427
00:20:56,965 --> 00:20:59,896
Good to see you again.
428
00:20:59,931 --> 00:21:02,034
So Audrey's parents,
Joanie and Rick,
429
00:21:02,068 --> 00:21:04,379
were able to come into town
and look at the venues
with us.
430
00:21:04,413 --> 00:21:06,310
I'm super excited to see
them again.
431
00:21:06,344 --> 00:21:09,620
And also Mariah and Audrey's
college friend Claire is
here with us.
432
00:21:09,655 --> 00:21:12,793
She's actually going to kind
of give us the tour here
of the gardens.
433
00:21:13,655 --> 00:21:15,103
-Guys.
-Hi.
434
00:21:17,206 --> 00:21:19,275
We've never hung out with a
polygamous family before,
435
00:21:19,310 --> 00:21:23,413
but we're from Utah with my
friends when we're all out,
or take a girl's trip
436
00:21:23,448 --> 00:21:27,793
and we tell somebody that
we're from Utah, they
immediately joke with us
437
00:21:27,827 --> 00:21:30,137
that we're sister wives or
something along those lines.
438
00:21:30,172 --> 00:21:32,517
So anybody from Utah
hanging out with other women
439
00:21:32,551 --> 00:21:34,034
get that kind of thing
all the time.
440
00:21:34,068 --> 00:21:37,000
Okay? How many months from now
are you guys getting married?
441
00:21:37,034 --> 00:21:39,241
We want to do August 2021.
442
00:21:39,275 --> 00:21:41,344
August 29th, right?
443
00:21:41,379 --> 00:21:43,793
-29th.
-August 29th right?
444
00:21:43,827 --> 00:21:44,862
Why the twenty ninth?
445
00:21:44,896 --> 00:21:46,068
What's significant about that?
446
00:21:46,103 --> 00:21:47,413
My birthday is on the 29th.
447
00:21:47,448 --> 00:21:50,310
Audrey's Birthdays is on
the 29th.
448
00:21:50,344 --> 00:21:53,482
We have to see if the
date works with where we find,
449
00:21:53,517 --> 00:21:56,655
so that could a just a day or
two, depending on your venue.
450
00:21:57,620 --> 00:21:59,793
It's just a month or two.
451
00:21:59,827 --> 00:22:01,965
It's going to be on the
twenty nine.
452
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,379
We love being cheesy, like,
just love being cheesy.
453
00:22:09,793 --> 00:22:13,448
So the first place that Claire
shows us was an indoor garden
454
00:22:13,482 --> 00:22:16,241
Seems like an easy place
to actually have a reception.
455
00:22:16,275 --> 00:22:17,724
So, Maria, I'm curious.
456
00:22:17,758 --> 00:22:20,413
Are you guys
Are you guys planning dancing?
457
00:22:20,448 --> 00:22:21,379
-Yes.
-Of course.
458
00:22:21,413 --> 00:22:23,689
-For sure.
-What dance?
459
00:22:23,724 --> 00:22:28,172
-Rick looks like he's served--
-I served one idea. I do that.
460
00:22:32,241 --> 00:22:35,517
-Like, I don't know who he is.
-He is so...
461
00:22:36,620 --> 00:22:38,413
I don't know how I dance.
462
00:22:38,448 --> 00:22:40,448
This is your space right here?
463
00:22:40,482 --> 00:22:42,724
Elbows in, right here.
464
00:22:42,758 --> 00:22:44,793
I don't dance. I jump up and
down in the mosh pit.
465
00:22:44,827 --> 00:22:46,310
That's my dancing.
466
00:22:46,344 --> 00:22:51,517
Maybe hips and shoulders or
something kind of rolling,
I don't know.
467
00:22:51,551 --> 00:22:55,586
I bounce, bounce, bounce,
and then I pump dance.
468
00:22:55,620 --> 00:22:58,275
-And then you do this thing.
-My pump dance.
469
00:22:58,310 --> 00:23:01,000
I am not gonna show you.
t's a surprise.
470
00:23:01,034 --> 00:23:04,275
You'll have to see the wedding
in order to see me dance.
471
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:08,965
So you guys could walk down
an aisle That isn't a
straight line.
472
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,103
-That is true.
-Hey.
473
00:23:11,137 --> 00:23:13,137
Okay.
474
00:23:15,413 --> 00:23:18,000
I think that was like so cute.
475
00:23:18,034 --> 00:23:19,965
We're not strange.
476
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,517
So, like, I've had
conversations with these guys,
477
00:23:22,551 --> 00:23:24,620
and it's like,
super important for them
478
00:23:24,655 --> 00:23:27,137
-to have people who are...
-Supportive.
479
00:23:27,172 --> 00:23:29,896
...super supportive of them
to be here.
480
00:23:29,931 --> 00:23:35,379
Not everyone agrees
with our right to marry.
481
00:23:35,413 --> 00:23:37,344
I don't want to be worried
about them on our
wedding day.
482
00:23:37,379 --> 00:23:40,655
Yeah, we just, like, realize
that it's kind of a thing
483
00:23:40,689 --> 00:23:42,034
that some people struggle
with.
484
00:23:42,068 --> 00:23:43,620
We don't need that there.
485
00:23:43,655 --> 00:23:45,448
Don't need you out there
on our wedding day.
486
00:23:45,482 --> 00:23:48,137
You know, Utah is a very
conservative state
487
00:23:48,172 --> 00:23:51,034
and we come from a very
conservative church
488
00:23:51,068 --> 00:23:54,034
and yeah, there will be
potentially people
489
00:23:54,068 --> 00:23:55,793
who would be a little bit
intolerant of that.
490
00:23:55,827 --> 00:24:02,551
We had a polygamist wedding
and we ended up having Robin
when you and I get married.
491
00:24:02,586 --> 00:24:03,793
Oh, our wedding.
492
00:24:03,827 --> 00:24:06,000
Which one.
493
00:24:06,034 --> 00:24:07,103
Well, hold on, hold on.
494
00:24:07,137 --> 00:24:09,448
This is really important.
A lot of people who really
495
00:24:09,482 --> 00:24:13,655
had a problem at first serve
lightened up through
that process.
496
00:24:13,689 --> 00:24:17,827
You know, Mary and I, Even on
our wedding day where we were
monogamously married,
497
00:24:17,862 --> 00:24:19,551
Okay, it's just the two of us.
498
00:24:19,586 --> 00:24:21,793
We had people come to our
wedding receptions
499
00:24:21,827 --> 00:24:23,758
that we're here because
we love you.
500
00:24:23,793 --> 00:24:27,689
But this does not mean we're
condoning your chosen
lifestyle.
501
00:24:27,724 --> 00:24:31,758
And so, you know, Adrienne,
Mariah, the parallels are
very similar.
502
00:24:31,793 --> 00:24:35,482
And in fact, that kind of
treatment where people were
like, "Well, I love you,
503
00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:39,586
but I sure think your
lifestyle, your religion
are dumb."
504
00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:41,310
Because we dealt with that,
505
00:24:41,344 --> 00:24:47,172
That may very well have been
something that helped me
personally develop
506
00:24:47,206 --> 00:24:51,586
a high level of just
acceptance of people
who are gay.
507
00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:54,551
Because I like I know what
it's like to be picked on.
508
00:24:54,586 --> 00:24:59,448
You never know whose mind you
might open by the sacredness
of your love.
509
00:24:59,482 --> 00:25:07,758
Invite all these people. force
them to think openly about
what would god have me do.
510
00:25:07,793 --> 00:25:13,000
Well, we've got have me
ostracize these people because
of their biology.
511
00:25:13,034 --> 00:25:15,517
-Make him think about it.
-So open minded any good.
512
00:25:15,551 --> 00:25:20,448
I'm like no, I'm going to come
if they love me already.
513
00:25:20,482 --> 00:25:22,137
So what do you do?
I get a phone call.
514
00:25:22,172 --> 00:25:23,655
Do you support this wedding
or no?
515
00:25:23,689 --> 00:25:25,965
Okay. No.
Yes.
516
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,965
Kody has got a point.
517
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,103
If they do show up, then
obviously they support you.
518
00:25:31,137 --> 00:25:32,793
You don't need that on your
wedding day.
519
00:25:32,827 --> 00:25:35,827
You need love surrounding you.
You're not wondering
520
00:25:35,862 --> 00:25:38,551
There's definitely people
on both sides of the family,
521
00:25:38,586 --> 00:25:42,827
friends, whatever that
have a hard time with
homosexual couples.
522
00:25:42,862 --> 00:25:46,310
Gay couples, so don't invite
them. I think it's great.
523
00:25:46,344 --> 00:25:49,344
So are there any other, like
places that we would want to
look at?
524
00:25:49,379 --> 00:25:52,275
There is great spots for, like
your photos and things like
that--
525
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:53,517
Let's go look at that.
526
00:25:53,551 --> 00:25:55,275
Lead the way ladies.
527
00:25:55,310 --> 00:26:00,482
weddings in the plural
community tend to seem like I
want to call it almost unfair.
528
00:26:00,517 --> 00:26:04,931
Some people have a big
celebration, and some people
have no celebration.
529
00:26:04,965 --> 00:26:08,000
It's because it is taught
dogmatically
530
00:26:08,034 --> 00:26:11,931
that plural wives should not
have a celebration.
531
00:26:11,965 --> 00:26:17,000
In our church, it was a little
bit more of a tendency that
the first wife would
532
00:26:17,034 --> 00:26:20,137
just because she could,
you know, she's she's the
first wife.
533
00:26:20,172 --> 00:26:23,310
There is no other. You know,
she didn't have to stay hidden
or whatever,
534
00:26:23,344 --> 00:26:25,000
But it wasn't always
encouraged.
535
00:26:25,034 --> 00:26:29,620
And so a second wife's wedding
they were discouraged from
having a big celebration.
536
00:26:29,655 --> 00:26:34,344
You're way down played with
Jenelle, reasonably small with
Christine.
537
00:26:34,379 --> 00:26:37,068
It was never something
that I really adjusted with
538
00:26:37,103 --> 00:26:38,965
and needless to say,
I came to this point
539
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,655
where I was frustrated with
that and it kind of made
a commitment
540
00:26:41,689 --> 00:26:45,551
to myself that for my children
and if I ever married again,
541
00:26:45,586 --> 00:26:48,724
-it was going to be a big
celebration.
-Like I think that's fair.
542
00:26:49,517 --> 00:26:50,931
It makes sense.
543
00:26:50,965 --> 00:26:53,827
I got to get back in the sun.
I don't want to get
chilled.
544
00:26:53,862 --> 00:26:55,655
Now with Corona virus
going free.
545
00:26:55,689 --> 00:26:58,068
Our company, just the day
before we were leaving,
546
00:26:58,103 --> 00:27:00,379
canceled all unnecessary
flights.
547
00:27:00,413 --> 00:27:05,965
We're hearing a lot about this
thing called Corona Virus,
Covid-19,
548
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,827
and it's kind of a hot topic
right now.
549
00:27:08,862 --> 00:27:13,275
Mary and Christine both had
won a cruise, and they just
canceled that.
550
00:27:13,310 --> 00:27:17,344
And now it's like my mom's
80th birthday party is
Saturday.
551
00:27:17,379 --> 00:27:20,965
My brother just texted out to
the family, reconsider if
you're going to come.
552
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,068
-Yeah.
-I think the fact that we just
don't know
553
00:27:23,103 --> 00:27:26,379
really what it is yet
or how bad it's going to be.
554
00:27:26,413 --> 00:27:29,689
But we're seeing these
cruise lines quarantined.
555
00:27:29,724 --> 00:27:32,758
My cruise was canceled.
556
00:27:32,793 --> 00:27:35,517
It's really interesting, and
we don't know what's going to
happen with it.
557
00:27:35,551 --> 00:27:38,000
We love a garden. Now let's go
check out a mountain.
558
00:27:38,034 --> 00:27:39,551
Let's do it. I'm so excited.
559
00:27:41,517 --> 00:27:45,241
There's not a lot at Red Butte
that doesn't like work for us,
560
00:27:45,275 --> 00:27:47,931
that I can nearly think of
so many.
561
00:27:47,965 --> 00:27:50,000
So many positives,
mostly positives
562
00:27:55,068 --> 00:27:58,724
All right, guys here to load
up one person personal
mobile here.
563
00:27:58,758 --> 00:28:01,827
I didn't realize we were going
to have to ride snowmobiles
564
00:28:01,862 --> 00:28:05,724
like, Seriously, I I'll be
screaming the whole
way out, probably.
565
00:28:05,758 --> 00:28:06,827
Oh, I'm very excited.
566
00:28:06,862 --> 00:28:08,655
-Let's do it. Let's go.
-let's go.
567
00:28:22,551 --> 00:28:26,206
We went to Solitude Ski Resort
to check out some venues
up there.
568
00:28:26,241 --> 00:28:28,103
I've never been to the
ski resort.
569
00:28:28,137 --> 00:28:30,172
It's really kind of cute.
570
00:28:30,206 --> 00:28:34,241
I mean, looks like it's going
to be really expensive,
actually.
571
00:28:36,655 --> 00:28:37,896
-How are you?
-Good. How are you?
572
00:28:37,931 --> 00:28:40,206
Are you here for your
wedding tour?
573
00:28:40,241 --> 00:28:41,413
This place is awesome.
574
00:28:41,448 --> 00:28:42,827
It is so cute.
575
00:28:42,862 --> 00:28:45,448
There's mountains, pine trees
everywhere.
576
00:28:45,482 --> 00:28:49,000
It's not going to covered
in snow in August. Wow.
577
00:28:49,034 --> 00:28:50,379
All right, guys,
you know, load up.
578
00:28:50,413 --> 00:28:52,482
One person, personal
mobile here.
579
00:28:52,517 --> 00:28:56,517
I think when we were talking
about seeing menus,
I didn't realize
580
00:28:56,551 --> 00:28:58,827
we were going to have
to write snowmobiles.
581
00:28:58,862 --> 00:29:01,034
I just think that looks
terrifying.
582
00:29:01,068 --> 00:29:03,793
To go up the hill and then to
come down, down.
583
00:29:03,827 --> 00:29:05,724
We have to come down
on the snowmobile.
584
00:29:05,758 --> 00:29:08,034
So, Mary, likes snowmobiles,
she's going to be fine.
585
00:29:08,068 --> 00:29:10,172
She's going to think this is
an exhilarating little trip.
586
00:29:10,206 --> 00:29:12,206
Christine May or may not.
587
00:29:12,241 --> 00:29:14,862
Robin might think,
Oh, I have children at home
588
00:29:14,896 --> 00:29:17,344
and I've got to protect them
from my death.
589
00:29:17,379 --> 00:29:22,000
Or she might be totally
kamikaze and like I'm going
to enjoy this ride.
590
00:29:22,034 --> 00:29:26,275
Jenelle is going to be
scared now
591
00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:29,482
Jenelle is going to be white
knuckling on this ride,
that's for sure.
592
00:29:29,517 --> 00:29:32,000
Okay. Wee. I'm the most
scaredycat person.
593
00:29:32,034 --> 00:29:34,586
So who can I go with that
won't scare the crap
out of me.
594
00:29:37,034 --> 00:29:40,896
No, like, seriously, I I'll be
screaming the whole way out,
probably.
595
00:29:40,931 --> 00:29:44,793
I have huge butterflies in my
stomach, and I'm trying to
not freak out,
596
00:29:44,827 --> 00:29:47,344
and I'm trying to not say
anything, said I want to be
the party pooper.
597
00:29:47,379 --> 00:29:50,310
Look at that hill and we're
going to go up that hill
598
00:29:50,344 --> 00:29:53,551
on this thing That doesn't
have any way to really
hold on.
599
00:29:53,586 --> 00:29:55,137
-It'll make it.
-Okay.
600
00:29:57,310 --> 00:29:58,793
Oh, I'm very excited.
601
00:29:58,827 --> 00:30:01,896
-Yeah, I'm a thrill seeker, so
I am almost like, Let's do it.
-Let's go!
602
00:30:07,931 --> 00:30:09,310
I had to close my eyes.
603
00:30:11,206 --> 00:30:13,965
Oh, yeah. Did you see that
slope that we were going to
go up.
604
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,551
Honestly, it was a little bit
more scary than I thought
it was gonna be.
605
00:30:18,586 --> 00:30:20,413
It was like I felt like
we slide a little bit
606
00:30:20,448 --> 00:30:22,655
and I like taking off
that hill was just like
607
00:30:27,172 --> 00:30:31,000
It was crazy, scary for a
minute, and then it was
really fun.
608
00:30:35,551 --> 00:30:37,551
that was so awesome was
so exhilarating.
609
00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:39,448
I'm right to do that again.
For sure.
610
00:30:39,482 --> 00:30:41,793
Totally wasn't as bad
as I thought it would be.
611
00:30:41,827 --> 00:30:45,241
Um, cos when you're on,
it doesn't seem like you're
doing this.
612
00:30:45,275 --> 00:30:48,551
Yeah, so it's really
exhilarating. It's fun.
613
00:30:48,586 --> 00:30:52,172
It's gorgeous up here,
but I really have a concern
614
00:30:52,206 --> 00:30:56,965
about guests who don't like
heights getting a pair on the
ski lift.
615
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,586
Not everybody is going to be
wanting to ride that ski lift.
616
00:31:00,620 --> 00:31:02,344
So I bring you all the way
out here
617
00:31:02,379 --> 00:31:05,482
-just so you can get a feel
for the actual ceremony space.
-Yeah.
618
00:31:05,517 --> 00:31:08,620
You have some pretty amazing
down Canyon use there.
619
00:31:08,655 --> 00:31:11,344
Then you also have some
really great across canyon.
620
00:31:11,379 --> 00:31:12,413
-Yeah.
-Wow.
621
00:31:12,448 --> 00:31:14,551
It's just absolutely gorgeous.
622
00:31:14,586 --> 00:31:17,551
Plus the things that you can't
see up there like this smell
623
00:31:17,586 --> 00:31:21,620
when you got up there just is
like, a little bit of like,
a cool, crisp air.
624
00:31:21,655 --> 00:31:23,758
Like it was just such a
beautiful space.
625
00:31:23,793 --> 00:31:26,344
Or if you're close enough
to the end of August
626
00:31:26,379 --> 00:31:29,172
and you hit those fall colors,
right, those aspins will
really pop.
627
00:31:29,206 --> 00:31:30,275
Oh, that'd be so awesome.
628
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:31,448
-Yeah.
-That would be awesome.
629
00:31:31,482 --> 00:31:34,931
So August 29th was their
wedding date goal.
630
00:31:34,965 --> 00:31:37,482
And the leaves change.
631
00:31:37,517 --> 00:31:41,448
-Right then. That would be
really cool.
-That will be so pretty.
632
00:31:41,482 --> 00:31:44,310
Aspens have been my favorite.
633
00:31:44,344 --> 00:31:46,068
We're connecting.
We're bonding.
634
00:31:48,172 --> 00:31:49,586
Thank you.
635
00:31:50,965 --> 00:31:51,862
Thank you.
636
00:31:51,896 --> 00:31:53,137
Let's do it.
637
00:31:53,172 --> 00:31:55,379
So both Red Butte and solitude
have a lot of great features
638
00:31:55,413 --> 00:31:57,724
that we're really looking for
for a wedding.
639
00:31:57,758 --> 00:32:00,827
But it will be really exciting
to see tomorrow,.
640
00:32:00,862 --> 00:32:02,413
I hear there's a castle,
so I don't know how
641
00:32:02,448 --> 00:32:05,655
-We're going to castles...
-Everything else we have seen.
642
00:32:05,689 --> 00:32:07,000
Guess we will find out
tomorrow.
643
00:32:12,137 --> 00:32:17,310
So for our final wedding venue
tour, we went and looked at
Wellesley Farms.
644
00:32:17,344 --> 00:32:20,551
This kind of like legitimately
looks like a castle.
645
00:32:20,586 --> 00:32:23,482
It looks very huge and
extravagant, I would say
646
00:32:23,517 --> 00:32:25,689
are two really great words to
describe it.
647
00:32:25,724 --> 00:32:27,931
-Hello.
-Good morning.
648
00:32:27,965 --> 00:32:30,000
I heard hugs were still okay.
649
00:32:30,034 --> 00:32:31,172
Yeah, it's really the...
650
00:32:31,206 --> 00:32:33,000
It's the respiratory droplets
that we are scared about.
651
00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:34,620
Hold your breath...
652
00:32:34,655 --> 00:32:38,965
Corona virus is going around
right now, and it's kind of
getting like scary.
653
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,517
I guess, so,
654
00:32:40,551 --> 00:32:43,034
I was like, hug with your
mouth closed.
655
00:32:43,068 --> 00:32:45,379
-Welcome to Wellesley Farms.
-Hi.
656
00:32:45,413 --> 00:32:46,482
I'm Susie.
657
00:32:46,517 --> 00:32:47,965
Hi Suzie, how are you?
658
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,275
This is the brides.
659
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:52,172
We have done polygamous
weddings before.
660
00:32:52,206 --> 00:32:54,655
It's just I think they're like
any other wedding
661
00:32:54,689 --> 00:32:56,827
you wouldn't know
unless they had told you.
662
00:32:56,862 --> 00:32:59,620
And we've had a lot of same
sex marriage is here, so yeah.
663
00:32:59,655 --> 00:33:02,482
And again saying, you know,
it's just two people in love,
664
00:33:02,517 --> 00:33:04,827
so, yeah, we've had
our fair share of both.
665
00:33:04,862 --> 00:33:07,965
Yes, our date. We're thinking
August 29th,2021.
666
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,344
-August is my favorite
time of year.
-Really?
667
00:33:10,379 --> 00:33:11,689
Magical.
668
00:33:11,724 --> 00:33:17,482
So far, this is kind of, yeah,
leaning to be my favorite.
669
00:33:17,517 --> 00:33:20,379
Not that my opinion matters
at all.
670
00:33:20,413 --> 00:33:21,517
Are you ready?
671
00:33:22,827 --> 00:33:24,034
Oh, God.
672
00:33:24,068 --> 00:33:27,965
-There's like, two stairways.
-This is amazing.
673
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,586
This'll place is so
impressive.
674
00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:34,517
Who could afford a wedding
here is I know who could
afford this.
675
00:33:34,551 --> 00:33:38,068
Audrey, did you just turn
into...
676
00:33:38,103 --> 00:33:39,275
I think we are castle people
now.
677
00:33:39,310 --> 00:33:40,793
I think we have turned into
castle people.
678
00:33:40,827 --> 00:33:42,448
I was like, I just think
it might be too much.
679
00:33:42,482 --> 00:33:45,068
But then once he got in there,
I was like, Oh, no, I'm a
castle person is great.
680
00:33:45,103 --> 00:33:46,310
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
681
00:33:46,344 --> 00:33:48,241
I could absolutely do this.
682
00:33:48,275 --> 00:33:51,310
You know, I get the picture
that this is a big
dance floor here.
683
00:33:51,344 --> 00:33:52,655
This has been waxed.
684
00:33:52,689 --> 00:33:54,689
-This floor has been waxed.
-Just for you today.
685
00:33:54,724 --> 00:33:57,241
-Special.
-Yeah, they did it for you.
686
00:33:57,275 --> 00:33:59,034
Max. Max. Man, smile.
687
00:34:00,655 --> 00:34:01,724
Yes.
688
00:34:01,758 --> 00:34:03,620
We're gonna have a little
dance party right now on.
689
00:34:03,655 --> 00:34:04,896
Let's look for you to
test out.
690
00:34:04,931 --> 00:34:06,068
Let's try it.
691
00:34:15,172 --> 00:34:16,034
Really good.
692
00:34:19,655 --> 00:34:20,586
Where's your surfing?
693
00:34:24,448 --> 00:34:27,034
And so, lucky us.
694
00:34:27,068 --> 00:34:30,965
-We get to see Rick do his
little surfer dance.
-Do his surfer dance.
695
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,068
Oh, Gosh.
696
00:34:35,620 --> 00:34:37,551
Oh, Kody's got the moves.
697
00:34:37,586 --> 00:34:39,517
That was his key thing
was the dance floor.
698
00:34:39,551 --> 00:34:41,965
So, yeah, he's going to make
it a party that night.
699
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,413
So this is the courtyard.
700
00:34:43,448 --> 00:34:45,344
Oh, my goodness.
701
00:34:45,379 --> 00:34:48,344
I bet this is gorgeous when
it is all bloomed. .
702
00:34:48,379 --> 00:34:54,241
It's just like through the
whole, entire place, like wood
and rock and metal.
703
00:34:54,275 --> 00:34:55,620
It's just gorgeous.
704
00:34:55,655 --> 00:34:56,724
Oh, my Gosh.
705
00:34:56,758 --> 00:34:58,000
I know it's your wedding.
706
00:34:58,034 --> 00:35:00,068
-But...
-But what do you have to say?
707
00:35:00,103 --> 00:35:02,310
I don't know how I would
pay for it.
708
00:35:02,344 --> 00:35:04,724
Dad, I just think that
you're going to be surprised.
709
00:35:04,758 --> 00:35:06,172
-Really?
-Yeah.
710
00:35:06,206 --> 00:35:09,344
I mean, this is the wedding
capital of the world.
711
00:35:09,379 --> 00:35:12,586
They originally were going to
talking about getting married
in Chicago.
712
00:35:12,620 --> 00:35:14,896
This is going to be
fairly reasonable.
713
00:35:14,931 --> 00:35:18,896
This is an old family farm
in northern Utah.
714
00:35:18,931 --> 00:35:21,103
It's not going to Chicago
pricing for sure.
715
00:35:21,137 --> 00:35:23,000
So let's go in and discuss...
716
00:35:23,034 --> 00:35:24,517
Discuss your price.
717
00:35:26,758 --> 00:35:29,344
Okay, steady me.
Steady me.
718
00:35:29,379 --> 00:35:30,586
Drama, drama.
719
00:35:30,620 --> 00:35:32,206
I have 11 daughters.
720
00:35:32,241 --> 00:35:33,413
God.
721
00:35:33,448 --> 00:35:35,965
Why does he bring that up now?
722
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,724
Like let's look and dream
and think big,
723
00:35:38,758 --> 00:35:41,241
and then let's figure out
the financial part.
724
00:35:41,275 --> 00:35:42,068
My hell.
725
00:35:42,103 --> 00:35:43,379
So what day
of the week is that?
726
00:35:43,413 --> 00:35:44,172
Sunday.
727
00:35:44,758 --> 00:35:45,931
Our one day closed.
728
00:35:45,965 --> 00:35:48,724
-Oh you're closed on Sundays?
729
00:35:48,758 --> 00:35:49,965
It's Utah.
730
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,275
I totally forgot the close
things on Sundays in Utah.
731
00:35:53,310 --> 00:35:55,413
That's kind
of a serious buzzkill.
732
00:35:55,448 --> 00:35:56,758
Serious buzzkill.
733
00:35:56,793 --> 00:35:58,379
-You look a little bit sad.
-I'm really sad.
734
00:35:58,413 --> 00:36:00,931
We kind of have our hearts
set on August 29th.
735
00:36:00,965 --> 00:36:02,896
It was a day that we both
really agreed on,
736
00:36:02,931 --> 00:36:05,862
and it just kind of feels
special and significant
for us.
737
00:36:05,896 --> 00:36:06,793
Yeah.
738
00:36:06,827 --> 00:36:08,413
I'm funny
about that personally.
739
00:36:08,448 --> 00:36:09,724
Just to share with you guys.
740
00:36:09,758 --> 00:36:11,620
-I'm funny about...
The two...
changing the date?
741
00:36:11,655 --> 00:36:12,793
-Yeah.
-Why?
742
00:36:12,827 --> 00:36:14,310
Because dates means something.
743
00:36:14,344 --> 00:36:17,275
That's the reason
you celebrate your birthday
and your birthday.
744
00:36:17,310 --> 00:36:20,827
I've had a lot of weddings
that were just accidentally
were wedding days.
745
00:36:20,862 --> 00:36:23,000
If I was picking
my wedding day,
746
00:36:23,034 --> 00:36:25,206
and I was picking in advance
like you guys were,
747
00:36:25,241 --> 00:36:27,482
I'd really seriously,
consider that. Okay?
748
00:36:27,517 --> 00:36:28,551
-Okay.
-Yeah.
749
00:36:28,586 --> 00:36:29,758
This is tough.
750
00:36:29,793 --> 00:36:33,655
And honestly, I'm emotionally
invested in this place.
751
00:36:33,689 --> 00:36:36,275
But I know this date's
important to them.
752
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:37,655
So your price for a weekend...
753
00:36:37,689 --> 00:36:38,758
-Weekend.
754
00:36:38,793 --> 00:36:40,724
-...Friday and Saturday,
is this.
Okay.
755
00:36:40,758 --> 00:36:42,655
Okay. Oh, my gosh. Wow.
756
00:36:42,689 --> 00:36:44,103
-Yes.
That's great.
757
00:36:44,137 --> 00:36:45,551
-See, told you, Dad.
Yeah.
758
00:36:45,586 --> 00:36:47,448
All right, my mind is blown.
759
00:36:47,482 --> 00:36:51,344
But the price is so
competitive with other venues
760
00:36:51,379 --> 00:36:55,551
that for what I feel like
we get here with this castle,
761
00:36:56,482 --> 00:36:58,517
the price is right.
762
00:36:58,551 --> 00:36:59,896
-Well, thank you so much.
-All right, yeah.
763
00:36:59,931 --> 00:37:01,862
Susie, you've been
a wonderful host.
764
00:37:01,896 --> 00:37:03,586
Yes, wonderful. Absolutely.
765
00:37:03,620 --> 00:37:06,034
There's this, like, so many
incredible options
to choose from.
766
00:37:06,068 --> 00:37:08,448
I felt like we were going
to have that ah-ha moment
767
00:37:08,482 --> 00:37:11,103
where we looked each other
in the eyes, and were like,
"This is the spot."
768
00:37:11,137 --> 00:37:14,551
Yeah, I don't think that
there's going to be a decision
being made, like, right now.
769
00:37:14,586 --> 00:37:15,655
Right now, no.
770
00:37:15,689 --> 00:37:17,068
Thank you so much, Susie.
771
00:37:17,103 --> 00:37:18,344
-All right.
Thank you!
772
00:37:19,827 --> 00:37:21,655
Yeah, I'm very excited
to get married to you.
773
00:37:21,689 --> 00:37:22,827
I'm so excited.
774
00:37:27,413 --> 00:37:31,620
Returning from
my mother's birthday party
in Lovell, Wyoming.
775
00:37:31,655 --> 00:37:34,793
There was a bunch of concern
amongst all of them
776
00:37:34,827 --> 00:37:39,103
about having a birthday party
with, uh, coronapocalypse.
777
00:37:39,137 --> 00:37:42,103
This week, it's just
kind of gotten crazy.
778
00:37:42,137 --> 00:37:44,793
There was a lot of
uneasiness at the airport.
779
00:37:44,827 --> 00:37:47,758
Flights were getting bumped,
getting delayed,
things were changing.
780
00:37:47,793 --> 00:37:49,344
It's not to be taken lightly,
781
00:37:49,379 --> 00:37:51,586
but I'm not the kind of guy
who wants to panic.
782
00:37:58,241 --> 00:38:01,758
So three days ago, we went on
some wedding venue tours
783
00:38:01,793 --> 00:38:04,758
with Audrey, Mariah,
my wives and Audrey's parents.
784
00:38:04,793 --> 00:38:06,344
Okay, get back in the sun.
785
00:38:06,379 --> 00:38:09,586
I don't want to get chilled
now with coronavirus
going free.
786
00:38:09,620 --> 00:38:11,586
Then we all split,
went different ways.
787
00:38:11,620 --> 00:38:14,551
So I went to Northern Wyoming
for my mom's 80th
birthday celebration,
788
00:38:14,586 --> 00:38:17,172
and my wives went home.
789
00:38:17,206 --> 00:38:23,448
So the news cycle picked up
this coronavirus story
in China
790
00:38:23,482 --> 00:38:24,586
back in December,
791
00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:26,758
and now it's here, and
I'm wondering what the hell.
792
00:38:36,931 --> 00:38:41,068
Returning from
my mother's birthday party
in Lovell, Wyoming,
793
00:38:41,103 --> 00:38:44,344
the town of my birth.
794
00:38:44,379 --> 00:38:47,448
There was a bunch of concern
amongst all of them
795
00:38:47,482 --> 00:38:52,068
about having a birthday party
with, uh, coronapocalypse.
796
00:38:52,103 --> 00:38:56,034
First thing everybody saying
is, "Don't touch,
no high fives, no handshakes,"
797
00:38:56,068 --> 00:38:59,103
and then toilet paper,
for some reason,
is flying off the shelves.
798
00:38:59,137 --> 00:39:01,137
It has an apocalyptic
feel to it.
799
00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:02,689
It's not to be taken lightly,
800
00:39:02,724 --> 00:39:04,931
but I'm not the kind of guy
who wants to panic.
801
00:39:04,965 --> 00:39:07,517
So I usually talk to my wives
when I'm traveling,
a little bit.
802
00:39:07,551 --> 00:39:11,241
I'll call in just to check
and see how their trips
are going and stuff like that.
803
00:39:11,275 --> 00:39:16,275
And, boy, their trip back
to Flagstaff was
a little spooky.
804
00:39:17,379 --> 00:39:19,793
I saw people in masks.
805
00:39:19,827 --> 00:39:24,275
I was like... It felt like
everything I touched
was infected.
806
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:27,000
There was a lot of
uneasiness at the airport.
807
00:39:27,034 --> 00:39:29,965
Flights were getting bumped,
getting delayed,
things were changing,
808
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,586
So we
rented a car.
809
00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:35,413
Yep, we rented a car
and just drove home.
810
00:39:35,448 --> 00:39:39,103
But it's so weird to sit here
and have wives reporting to me
811
00:39:39,137 --> 00:39:42,827
that stores are closing, that
the school's going to close.
812
00:39:42,862 --> 00:39:45,793
This week, it's just
kind of gotten crazy.
813
00:39:45,827 --> 00:39:49,827
Is everybody
unnecessarily panicking?
814
00:39:49,862 --> 00:39:54,758
It's like how do you know
whether to continue
living life?
815
00:39:54,793 --> 00:39:56,034
What do you do?
816
00:40:01,206 --> 00:40:03,689
I got home
from Salt Lake and...
817
00:40:03,724 --> 00:40:06,655
yeah, this point,
I'm just kind of, like,
818
00:40:06,689 --> 00:40:09,724
listening to the
news reports and reading stuff
819
00:40:09,758 --> 00:40:12,896
and trying to figure out,
like, really,
what is going on.
820
00:40:12,931 --> 00:40:14,310
Do I need to be nervous?
821
00:40:14,344 --> 00:40:16,068
I can't decide
if I need to be nervous.
822
00:40:20,103 --> 00:40:21,724
I have been going anywhere.
823
00:40:21,758 --> 00:40:24,827
I went to the grocery store
and was uber, uber careful
824
00:40:24,862 --> 00:40:27,000
with sanitizing everything
and washing my hands.
825
00:40:27,034 --> 00:40:28,448
and not touching my face.
826
00:40:28,482 --> 00:40:29,655
You know,
you just don't ever know.
827
00:40:29,689 --> 00:40:31,517
So it's kind of like this...
828
00:40:31,551 --> 00:40:33,586
It almost feels like
a roulette game
when you go out.
829
00:40:37,724 --> 00:40:39,758
We're talking
about shutting down
830
00:40:39,793 --> 00:40:41,827
like nobody's going to travel.
831
00:40:41,862 --> 00:40:44,379
They're talking about closing
restaurants and businesses
832
00:40:44,413 --> 00:40:46,482
they're talking
about closing malls.
833
00:40:46,517 --> 00:40:48,896
We're hearing that
the kids are going to be
out of school a week.
834
00:40:48,931 --> 00:40:50,931
We just need to kind of
keep the kids safe
835
00:40:50,965 --> 00:40:52,655
while we assess
what's going on.
836
00:40:52,689 --> 00:40:56,137
I feel scared,
and I feel like, um...
837
00:40:57,517 --> 00:40:58,793
you know, it can get us,
838
00:40:58,827 --> 00:41:03,482
and it just makes me want
to hole up here in my house
839
00:41:03,517 --> 00:41:05,862
and I don't know, it's...
840
00:41:06,724 --> 00:41:07,931
it's insane.
841
00:41:07,965 --> 00:41:10,655
It's going all over China,
842
00:41:10,689 --> 00:41:13,586
all over Europe,
it's going crazy.
843
00:41:13,620 --> 00:41:15,862
It's just like tons and tons
of people are getting it,
844
00:41:15,896 --> 00:41:17,827
and it's killing people.
845
00:41:17,862 --> 00:41:21,206
So everybody's
got these opinions
and nobody knows what to do.
846
00:41:21,241 --> 00:41:25,206
And I'm rambling
because, frankly,
I don't know what to do.
847
00:41:31,034 --> 00:41:32,137
What do we do?
848
00:41:32,172 --> 00:41:34,172
How do we maintain life?
849
00:41:34,206 --> 00:41:36,241
And when do I
ever see my family?
850
00:41:37,448 --> 00:41:39,758
Federal government
arguing about what to do,
851
00:41:39,793 --> 00:41:41,896
the state government's,
arguing about what to do.
852
00:41:41,931 --> 00:41:43,310
I mean, we're just...
There's just...
853
00:41:43,344 --> 00:41:45,068
Nobody knows what to do.
854
00:41:45,931 --> 00:41:47,482
I don't know.
I just feel scared.
855
00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:55,034
Next time
onSister Wives...
856
00:41:55,068 --> 00:41:57,551
The whole country
has sort of been told
857
00:41:57,586 --> 00:42:01,000
that we need to start
doing social distancing.
858
00:42:01,034 --> 00:42:03,103
I mean,
if one of us gets sick,
859
00:42:03,137 --> 00:42:05,655
then it's literally
quarantining the family.
860
00:42:06,620 --> 00:42:10,896
Flagstaff now
has a case of coronavirus.
861
00:42:10,931 --> 00:42:14,310
Well, today,
with coronavirus going on,
862
00:42:14,344 --> 00:42:17,896
not everybody wanted...
no one to leave their house.
863
00:42:17,931 --> 00:42:23,793
I think maybe I better, like,
not have Kody even come.
864
00:42:23,827 --> 00:42:26,931
If for some reason,
we ended up infected,
865
00:42:26,965 --> 00:42:29,241
he would then bring it
to all of you guys.
866
00:42:29,275 --> 00:42:31,103
It's, like, What are...
What are we doing?
867
00:42:31,137 --> 00:42:32,137
I don't even know.
868
00:42:32,172 --> 00:42:34,068
Like, how can
we work our relationships
869
00:42:34,103 --> 00:42:35,965
if you can't even
see each other to talk to?