Previously on Sister Wives .
I present the family the idea of a one home.
But I realized, this is a dogma of my religion.
If you're in love with two women and you're married
to them and they don't really like each other,
having them live together
would be soul killing for them.
And Christine and I have had our little struggle
because it doesn't work for her.
It wasn't a little struggle, mind you.
Why didn't he listen to what I said in the past,
like, five or six years?
I don't want to live together again. God.
We've actually decided to move back to Utah.
Isn't this exciting thing you've ever heard in your whole life?
Yeah.
It's time for us to be home.
Especially now that we're really starting to think about
like what starting a family looks like for us.
-Don't worry. We'll get married first. -Yeah.
So, you're not getting married in Chicago either anymore.
No. We're going to get married in Salt Lake.
I'm so excited to help them start planning the wedding.
I'm just saying.
We will have to decide what we really want.
Do you want to have a relationship
with your sister wife?
I don't see my sister wives very often.
We do think separate now.
Honestly, I just don't think my wives
really want to be together that much
because if they did, they would.
A while back
Janelle asked the five of us to go have lunch together,
and kind of just discuss where we're at with our relationships.
Yeah, I'm sure everybody hates me all the time.
And then when I get together for family gatherings
I'm like, why would I want to go?
Because it's just gonna be a hostile environment.
And no one there even likes me.
I've just felt like I needed to talk to her more about it.
I just, I'm concerned for her.
Come in.
Knock, knock. Hey. -Hi, sweetie.
Christine and I have had ups and downs with each other.
There's times, when we have gotten along really well.
and there's times, that plural marriage
has ruled its ugly head and jealousy kind of reins
and so sometimes it's good.
Sometimes it's not so great.
And we just kind of go with the flow of that.
Hey, you, What's up?
-Oh, just, I'm good. -Driving by?
No, I wanted to come talk to you.
Oh, God. -Not that's kind of talk.
It's just... Oh gosh.
It just got I don't really enjoy conversations at all.
I just don't like being that vulnerable.
I put myself out there and afterwards
I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I was an idiot."
you know, when we went and had dinner
and, Janelle, like, sat us down
had that heavy, intense conversation and stuff.
You said something about
when you come to family gatherings
you're sitting there, worried whether or not
people are hating you.
-I mean, that's a strong word, but I do worry sometimes. -That's okay.
So I know that my imagination,
and the conversations that I have in my head,
aren't always the most healthy things.
I think that I've always been this way, just looking back with Mary and Janelle.
When it was just the three of us.
It was the same kind of thing.
I didn't always know if they were mad at me
or frustrated with me.
It's just hard.
It's just hard to know what to do.
I just want to speak for myself.
I can't I mean, I don't know what their relationships are.
So I'm just saying, like for me, Robyn,
Robyn does not feel that way about Christine.
-Thank you. -Does that make sense?
I wouldn't imagine that anybody hates Christine
just because I don't see that kind of behavior from them.
But I don't know.
Maybe somebody's a really good actor.
I don't know.
Do you want anything for breakfast? You're hungry? I'm hungry.
-Yeah, sure. -Do you want a parfait?
Sure. Yeah.
Before family gathering, I think about it a lot.
If it's in my house,
then I know what to do to prepare for it,
to try and make it so everybody feels comfortable.
But when I go into to one of my sister wives' homes,
I don't know how to feel safe.
I don't know how to be me in their home.
Yeah, super uncomfortable to even admit it because I sound stupid.
You said something recently, where you said, it's hard for us
to go into someone's house, too, because we don't know what role,
we don't know who we are in someone else's home.
You know, I know who I am in my house.
I know what my role is. I know my identity is well.
Well, we share that role so much for the time.
I don't think everybody quite understands
they're also sharing the role of mother constantly.
Oh, yeah.
There's some tension that can happen
between the sister wives from that sharing of those roles.
You got a kid sitting here doing something and then needs mothering.
Do you step in or don't you?
You're sharing that role with the other moms.
We go to someone else's house,
we walk in and you're like, okay, this is her home.
-Yeah. -You kind of like
you've sort of almost stepped down just a little, I feel.
She's like Queen Wife.
-Well, kind of, I mean. -Kind of.
But it is. She gets final say.
I think when we have
a gathering in a wife's home that she's going to decide
what we eat and how it's served,
and she's going to create all of that.
It's her home, so she should be able to be the most important.
Make the final decision, you know, because it's her home.
It's your domain and it's your castle.
It is yours.
And so there's a term of respect that goes with that
and you should be able to be in charge.
You should be able to make the call.
Personally, I don't like the term queen wife
or Queen Bee or, you know, whatever is used.
I've heard a lot in the plural community,
and it's definitely got a negative connotation.
When my sister wives come into my home or when I go into their home.
I don't think it has anything to do with who's Queen Wife.
It has to do with, "This is their home.
"And I'm going to respect her space."
Being able to say something, it would be like a value,
is important to us.
You know what we want to matter. We want to count.
And now you know about the one house versus poor separate houses.
-Really? -Yeah.
The one house was so hard, I never felt like I was queen.
Wife or Queen Mom. Never.
Everybody just needs came before mine.
And everybody's, all the kids' whose needs came before my kids too.
Janelle was gone all the time.
And so I was kind, like her kid's mom, too.
So it really mattered that I stood up firmly for her kids
and so I would put the needs of my kids after that.
And they still, I love them, and I took care of them.
But I could have done better.
So we needed to take the basement.
Not fun, not a fun choice to make, it was super hard.
I hated it. Yeah, because I hate conversation so bad.
I just put my needs last, every single time.
In the plural community there is certainly a basement wife mentality.
If you have a situation where there's a wife, it's a queen bee.
While the other wife goes in the basement and she doesn't matter as much.
And I've seen it enough.
I've seen it a lot.
I put myself in the basement and became a basement wife,
and I just feel like I stopped having a choice
and I didn't really matter as much.
I have never really heard or thought about
somebody being called the basement wife.
You know, we've had plenty of houses
where I lived in the basement.
Like, one house, there was a small kitchenette
type thing in the basement, and it was dark.
I mean, it wasn't quite like what Christine had,
where she could actually see out the windows,
like it was a true basement.
And so there was some separation, but I never felt like it was a stigma.
It was more like separation for me to live downstairs, so to speak.
-I'm so sorry. -It was hard.
So moving back to that, no, I don't care if Kody said
it's different because there's thicker walls.
-Space or whatever. -That doesn't matter.
I would never be queen over my domain.
I'm not doing it again.
I'm not going to put myself in a situation where my kids' needs aren't met.
I'm not going to do it.
Also having a back door entrance.
That was a really, really bad thing that,
-I didn't feel like it was Kody's house. -Back door entrance?
I had a back door entrance.
So it's like Kody would come in, dump all of his stuff
at Meri's house or Janelle's house.
Never settle in mine.
He wouldn't shower there.
-He didn't get dressed there. -I heard about that.
Yeah, until I find that brought it up to him.
And I said, when you marry Robyn, you're going to shower at her house
and he's like, "Well, yeah", I said that I need you showering here.
It's like I do everything that I can to make my home,
our home is like, Well, Meri's shower's just better.
I'm like, "I don't care."
I don't care, because what you're saying is, "I don't matter."
So he did. He started showering,
but I think it's also because Robyn said something.
Honestly.
I mentioned it a lot over the years, and he didn't change it
and didn't change it.
And it wasn't until Robyn's coming in the family that he changed it.
I hated it. It really, really bothered me.
That was the fourth year we were living there,
and he's still didn't shower there.
I mean, this is not something that Christine and I have
ever talked about, but I know that she has problem,
that he never showered at her house,
but honestly, it was nothing that ever came from me.
I never asked Kody to shower at my house.
Like, I didn't care where he showered.
It's like, "You want me to move back to that?"
Thank you for bringing that up to him. It wasn't okay.
Christine's memory of our experience in Lehi
was that I never showered at her house,
which isn't actually true, I showered at her house a lot.
I tended to shower more often at Meri's house in the morning
because Meri would be going to work.
I would visit with Meri.
Then I would have breakfast every morning
at Christine's house before I went to work.
And so I felt like I was balancing out something in the relationship.
And so what I see Christine doing is that she twists the past experiences
that we've had to a negative place, and that's the reason
she's not wanting to be in one home.
So it's not about the one home thing.
It's about how she has twisted our past and made it negative.
I need to talk to Kody.
I feel like everything just kind of bad
with Kody and I after honestly because he took so personal.
-He took it so personal. -Yeah, but it's not.
-I know that he... -It's not really that personal.
It's an identity.
I think it's because it's, in his head,
It's about his family.
But he's got to realize that everybody has to choose it.
I can't keep bringing it up all the time.
-But nor can it cause such a bad situation. -No, that's not fair.
I think Kody needs to hear what Christine has just told me,
and that might be hard for him to hear.
Time to have conversation with him for a blunt, outspoken person
about this thing he feels passionate about.
You're just going to have to get that brave part of yourself and say it.
I know it's not always fun.
-No, it's not. Yucky.
So I think that we don't have to do anything together.
-We actually don't. -Oh, gosh.
If I'm in a rough spot with Kody,
it's really difficult to contribute to a sister wife relationship.
You know that she's actually trying to sabotage
your relationship with Kody,
You can't trust her.
How are you friends with someone you can't trust?
So, like, can you tell me, like, what the difference was
between living in one house in Lehi,
and that culture that, I like,
I came to know you guys with
and then, like, what it was like in Las Vegas.
Like, the difference.
I want to sort of make peace with the idea
that we aren't living in one home
because that was the idea that I bought off on
when I got to know and marry Kody
and sort of fell in love with the family.
Was that you know, someday we might live in one home.
We did the right thing, right?
I just want to know.
Okay, what did Janelle and Meri talk about most of the time?
-Because of the kids, right, we made it work. -For the kids.
We made it work because of the kids. That is what it was.
-We made it work because of the kids. -Okay.
I don't know if we would have chosen to work things out
for any other reason, necessarily.
-Oh, gosh. -I don't know.
It is confusing to me, because I'm like,
"Did I just not see what was there in front of my face?"
"Did I fall in love with a culture of a family that really wasn't real?"
So I think what we're getting
is more organic than it's more of a choice.
Oh, I think is more between, because you when you came in the family,
you stood up for yourself so much
-and I was like, what the holy. -Really?
Yes. I didn't understand what that was like.
I had no idea.
No way. Like it was safe?
I'm like freaking out here.
It was so good.
Was it harsh?
Was it hard?
No, no, no. Oh, no.
You did great. There were so many conversations
that you would have with Kody.
-And I was like, "What?"
She gets a choice, she isn't just told she has to do it?
What does that mean?
You mean, she's fighting about Christmas?
We couldn't do that. What?
For years, Kody tried to take Christmas away.
And then Robyn came in the family.
She started being like, "That's the stupidest
"thing I've ever heard in my life."
But she had magical conversations with Kody
where he would come back and say
"I think that we need to still have Christmas" and things like that.
And she was totally heard.
And it blew my mind.
Because of my religious views and the way I felt about Christmas.
I was specifically just trying to move ourselves away
from such a commercialization of Christmas.
Robyn talking to me about being cool about Christmas
was simply an effort to keep me from taking away the spirit of Christmas.
Personally, I think it was just a big misunderstanding.
It did bring a change.
But it was so good.
Do you know became a stronger person.
-I became a stronger person. Yeah.
-But you also like... -I'll get you something.
-What? Oh, you got to get socks or sweater. I'm freezing.
Freezing! All day. -No, it's cold.
Conversations like this are hard to have a time limit.
I swear. You have an inner time limit of an hour
and after an hour, I'm like, "I need to breathe."
I really...
And so Ah I'm running.
I'm running away from all of my problems.
I think it's all good. And I wanted to tell you...
-I want to... -Everyone is grandizing, glorifying the past
like "What we had was so good", I might
No, it wasn't.
We made it work because of the kids, because we had to.
How is that good?
-That's a good point. -I don't want to have to do anything.
So when we lived separately in Vegas, we got back together again
and we had to figure out the balance in the cul-de-sac,
and it was very different than it was before.
Well so now we're in Flagstaff we're all separate again.
Then when we move on to Coyote Pass, it's going to look different again.
We're just not going to bubble into this like, oh where we're all like
best friends and the kids are all this is just, this magical all the time.
I don't know.
It's going to be different.
We're going to figure it out.
So I think that the Flagstaff reset has been a big, huge reset.
-Yeah. -We don't have to do anything together.
-We actually don't. -No.
I have a full, amazing things that I do with my girls,
that I love, but now it's the next step.
Do we want to just call people up like a girlfriend?
We want to call each other up like a girlfriend and say,
"Hey, I really need to go out to lunch today."
So what's stopping us from doing that?
Is it because plural marriage is hard
and living by ourselves is hard?
-I also get into my own head a lot. -Yeah.
and I think that I have enemies when, in fact, you guys aren't.
I think that it is easy to sit there and wonder,
"Do my sister wives love me?"
"Do they care about me?"
"Do they hate me?"
That is something that, I think, all plural wives
sort of struggle with, and, I mean, I do.
We're all so connected and so interconnected
and not only their sister wife relationship.
There's Kody in there, too.
When I'm in a good spot with Kody, it's super easy to have
a great relationship with my sister wives.
But if I'm in a rough spot with Kody, it's really difficult to get out of that
and I feel like I want to even contribute to a sister wife relationship.
This is something that, we treat each other
like we're girlfriends where we're like,
"Hey, just thinking about you today.
"I want to know if everything's okay."
-Yeah. -Because I do that to my friends.
-Or I say, -But that's you choosing to be safe for your friend.
We have to choose to be safe for each other.
That's a huge one.
But here's the thing it's like if you can't trust your sister wife to look out
for your relationship with your husband, then you can't be girlfriends.
You can't be friends.
That has to come like, one of the first things that you do,
and then you can be girlfriends.
But if you're sitting there and you know that she's actually trying to sabotage
your relationship with Kody, then you can't trust her.
How are you friends with someone you can't trust?
-I'm glad you came. Thank you, thank you. -Me too.
You know, there's a bond that is unique to sister wife relationship
where you're sitting there going, "We trust each other"
to have each other's back when it comes to Kody.
and our individual relationship with him.
And in that place there is such a depth.
And there's such a closeness and a connection
and a bond that, um, you can't get anywhere else.
It's pure love and it's the potential that my sister wives
and I have to have with each other.
We have come up to Salt Lake City
to look at some wedding venue options
with Mariah and Audrey.
You guys could walk down an aisle that isn't a straight line.
Yeah.
Hey!
Right there!
That just, like, got me in the feels, you know?
Yeah, we're not strange.
We have come up the Salt Lake City
to look at some wedding venue options with Mariah and Audrey.
They decided to choose between three different venues.
One is a botanical garden, one is a ski resort,
-and the other is a family farm. -With a castle.
With a castle.
Are you excited? Crazy, excited.
I'm excited.
So Mariah came out to us as gay about
and I will never forget and always regret my reaction
because I was completely clueless and I felt like such a bad mom
like I felt horrible, I guess is about
maybe three or four months later,
she introduced us to Audrey.
I have absolutely love seeing their relationship blossom.
They are so good for each other.
Now they're planning their wedding.
It's kind of fun.
Good to see you again.
So Audrey's parents, Joanie and Rick,
were able to come into town and look at the venues with us.
I'm super excited to see them again.
And also Mariah and Audrey's college friend Claire is here with us.
She's actually going to kind of give us the tour here of the gardens.
-Guys. -Hi.
We've never hung out with a polygamous family before,
but we're from Utah with my friends when we're all out, or take a girl's trip
and we tell somebody that we're from Utah, they immediately joke with us
that we're sister wives or something along those lines.
So anybody from Utah hanging out with other women
get that kind of thing all the time.
Okay? How many months from now are you guys getting married?
We want to do August 2021.
August 29th, right?
-29th. -August 29th right?
Why the twenty ninth?
What's significant about that?
My birthday is on the 29th.
Audrey's Birthdays is on the 29th.
We have to see if the date works with where we find,
so that could a just a day or two, depending on your venue.
It's just a month or two.
It's going to be on the twenty nine.
We love being cheesy, like, just love being cheesy.
So the first place that Claire shows us was an indoor garden
Seems like an easy place to actually have a reception.
So, Maria, I'm curious.
Are you guys Are you guys planning dancing?
-Yes. -Of course.
-For sure. -What dance?
-Rick looks like he's served-- -I served one idea. I do that.
-Like, I don't know who he is. -He is so...
I don't know how I dance.
This is your space right here?
Elbows in, right here.
I don't dance. I jump up and down in the mosh pit.
That's my dancing.
Maybe hips and shoulders or something kind of rolling, I don't know.
I bounce, bounce, bounce, and then I pump dance.
-And then you do this thing. -My pump dance.
I am not gonna show you. t's a surprise.
You'll have to see the wedding in order to see me dance.
So you guys could walk down an aisle That isn't a straight line.
-That is true. -Hey.
Okay.
I think that was like so cute.
We're not strange.
So, like, I've had conversations with these guys,
and it's like, super important for them
-to have people who are... -Supportive.
...super supportive of them to be here.
Not everyone agrees with our right to marry.
I don't want to be worried about them on our wedding day.
Yeah, we just, like, realize that it's kind of a thing
that some people struggle with.
We don't need that there.
Don't need you out there on our wedding day.
You know, Utah is a very conservative state
and we come from a very conservative church
and yeah, there will be potentially people
who would be a little bit intolerant of that.
We had a polygamist wedding and we ended up having Robin when you and I get married.
Oh, our wedding.
Which one.
Well, hold on, hold on.
This is really important. A lot of people who really
had a problem at first serve lightened up through that process.
You know, Mary and I, Even on our wedding day where we were monogamously married,
Okay, it's just the two of us.
We had people come to our wedding receptions
that we're here because we love you.
But this does not mean we're condoning your chosen lifestyle.
And so, you know, Adrienne, Mariah, the parallels are very similar.
And in fact, that kind of treatment where people were like, "Well, I love you,
but I sure think your lifestyle, your religion are dumb."
Because we dealt with that,
That may very well have been something that helped me personally develop
a high level of just acceptance of people who are gay.
Because I like I know what it's like to be picked on.
You never know whose mind you might open by the sacredness of your love.
Invite all these people. force them to think openly about what would god have me do.
Well, we've got have me ostracize these people because of their biology.
-Make him think about it. -So open minded any good.
I'm like no, I'm going to come if they love me already.
So what do you do? I get a phone call.
Do you support this wedding or no?
Okay. No. Yes.
Kody has got a point.
If they do show up, then obviously they support you.
You don't need that on your wedding day.
You need love surrounding you. You're not wondering
There's definitely people on both sides of the family,
friends, whatever that have a hard time with homosexual couples.
Gay couples, so don't invite them. I think it's great.
So are there any other, like places that we would want to look at?
There is great spots for, like your photos and things like that--
Let's go look at that.
Lead the way ladies.
weddings in the plural community tend to seem like I want to call it almost unfair.
Some people have a big celebration, and some people have no celebration.
It's because it is taught dogmatically
that plural wives should not have a celebration.
In our church, it was a little bit more of a tendency that the first wife would
just because she could, you know, she's she's the first wife.
There is no other. You know, she didn't have to stay hidden or whatever,
But it wasn't always encouraged.
And so a second wife's wedding they were discouraged from having a big celebration.
You're way down played with Jenelle, reasonably small with Christine.
It was never something that I really adjusted with
and needless to say, I came to this point
where I was frustrated with that and it kind of made a commitment
to myself that for my children and if I ever married again,
-it was going to be a big celebration. -Like I think that's fair.
It makes sense.
I got to get back in the sun. I don't want to get chilled.
Now with Corona virus going free.
Our company, just the day before we were leaving,
canceled all unnecessary flights.
We're hearing a lot about this thing called Corona Virus, Covid-19,
and it's kind of a hot topic right now.
Mary and Christine both had won a cruise, and they just canceled that.
And now it's like my mom's 80th birthday party is Saturday.
My brother just texted out to the family, reconsider if you're going to come.
-Yeah. -I think the fact that we just don't know
really what it is yet or how bad it's going to be.
But we're seeing these cruise lines quarantined.
My cruise was canceled.
It's really interesting, and we don't know what's going to happen with it.
We love a garden. Now let's go check out a mountain.
Let's do it. I'm so excited.
There's not a lot at Red Butte that doesn't like work for us,
that I can nearly think of so many.
So many positives, mostly positives
All right, guys here to load up one person personal mobile here.
I didn't realize we were going to have to ride snowmobiles
like, Seriously, I I'll be screaming the whole way out, probably.
Oh, I'm very excited.
-Let's do it. Let's go. -let's go.
We went to Solitude Ski Resort to check out some venues up there.
I've never been to the ski resort.
It's really kind of cute.
I mean, looks like it's going to be really expensive, actually.
-How are you? -Good. How are you?
Are you here for your wedding tour?
This place is awesome.
It is so cute.
There's mountains, pine trees everywhere.
It's not going to covered in snow in August. Wow.
All right, guys, you know, load up.
One person, personal mobile here.
I think when we were talking about seeing menus, I didn't realize
we were going to have to write snowmobiles.
I just think that looks terrifying.
To go up the hill and then to come down, down.
We have to come down on the snowmobile.
So, Mary, likes snowmobiles, she's going to be fine.
She's going to think this is an exhilarating little trip.
Christine May or may not.
Robin might think, Oh, I have children at home
and I've got to protect them from my death.
Or she might be totally kamikaze and like I'm going to enjoy this ride.
Jenelle is going to be scared now
Jenelle is going to be white knuckling on this ride, that's for sure.
Okay. Wee. I'm the most scaredycat person.
So who can I go with that won't scare the crap out of me.
No, like, seriously, I I'll be screaming the whole way out, probably.
I have huge butterflies in my stomach, and I'm trying to not freak out,
and I'm trying to not say anything, said I want to be the party pooper.
Look at that hill and we're going to go up that hill
on this thing That doesn't have any way to really hold on.
-It'll make it. -Okay.
Oh, I'm very excited.
-Yeah, I'm a thrill seeker, so I am almost like, Let's do it. -Let's go!
I had to close my eyes.
Oh, yeah. Did you see that slope that we were going to go up.
Honestly, it was a little bit more scary than I thought it was gonna be.
It was like I felt like we slide a little bit
and I like taking off that hill was just like
It was crazy, scary for a minute, and then it was really fun.
that was so awesome was so exhilarating.
I'm right to do that again. For sure.
Totally wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
Um, cos when you're on, it doesn't seem like you're doing this.
Yeah, so it's really exhilarating. It's fun.
It's gorgeous up here, but I really have a concern
about guests who don't like heights getting a pair on the ski lift.
Not everybody is going to be wanting to ride that ski lift.
So I bring you all the way out here
-just so you can get a feel for the actual ceremony space. -Yeah.
You have some pretty amazing down Canyon use there.
Then you also have some really great across canyon.
-Yeah. -Wow.
It's just absolutely gorgeous.
Plus the things that you can't see up there like this smell
when you got up there just is like, a little bit of like, a cool, crisp air.
Like it was just such a beautiful space.
Or if you're close enough to the end of August
and you hit those fall colors, right, those aspins will really pop.
Oh, that'd be so awesome.
-Yeah. -That would be awesome.
So August 29th was their wedding date goal.
And the leaves change.
-Right then. That would be really cool. -That will be so pretty.
Aspens have been my favorite.
We're connecting. We're bonding.
Thank you.
Let's do it.
So both Red Butte and solitude have a lot of great features
that we're really looking for for a wedding.
But it will be really exciting to see tomorrow,.
I hear there's a castle, so I don't know how
-We're going to castles... -Everything else we have seen.
Guess we will find out tomorrow.
So for our final wedding venue tour, we went and looked at Wellesley Farms.
This kind of like legitimately looks like a castle.
It looks very huge and extravagant, I would say
are two really great words to describe it.
-Hello. -Good morning.
I heard hugs were still okay.
Yeah, it's really the...
It's the respiratory droplets that we are scared about.
Hold your breath...
Corona virus is going around right now, and it's kind of getting like scary.
I guess, so,
I was like, hug with your mouth closed.
-Welcome to Wellesley Farms. -Hi.
I'm Susie.
Hi Suzie, how are you?
This is the brides.
We have done polygamous weddings before.
It's just I think they're like any other wedding
you wouldn't know unless they had told you.
And we've had a lot of same sex marriage is here, so yeah.
And again saying, you know, it's just two people in love,
so, yeah, we've had our fair share of both.
Yes, our date. We're thinking August 29th,2021.
-August is my favorite time of year. -Really?
Magical.
So far, this is kind of, yeah, leaning to be my favorite.
Not that my opinion matters at all.
Are you ready?
Oh, God.
-There's like, two stairways. -This is amazing.
This'll place is so impressive.
Who could afford a wedding here is I know who could afford this.
Audrey, did you just turn into...
I think we are castle people now.
I think we have turned into castle people.
I was like, I just think it might be too much.
But then once he got in there, I was like, Oh, no, I'm a castle person is great.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
I could absolutely do this.
You know, I get the picture that this is a big dance floor here.
This has been waxed.
-This floor has been waxed. -Just for you today.
-Special. -Yeah, they did it for you.
Max. Max. Man, smile.
Yes.
We're gonna have a little dance party right now on.
Let's look for you to test out.
Let's try it.
Really good.
Where's your surfing?
And so, lucky us.
-We get to see Rick do his little surfer dance. -Do his surfer dance.
Oh, Gosh.
Oh, Kody's got the moves.
That was his key thing was the dance floor.
So, yeah, he's going to make it a party that night.
So this is the courtyard.
Oh, my goodness.
I bet this is gorgeous when it is all bloomed. .
It's just like through the whole, entire place, like wood and rock and metal.
It's just gorgeous.
Oh, my Gosh.
I know it's your wedding.
-But... -But what do you have to say?
I don't know how I would pay for it.
Dad, I just think that you're going to be surprised.
-Really? -Yeah.
I mean, this is the wedding capital of the world.
They originally were going to talking about getting married in Chicago.
This is going to be fairly reasonable.
This is an old family farm in northern Utah.
It's not going to Chicago pricing for sure.
So let's go in and discuss...
Discuss your price.
Okay, steady me. Steady me.
Drama, drama.
I have 11 daughters.
God.
Why does he bring that up now?
Like let's look and dream and think big,
and then let's figure out the financial part.
My hell.
So what day of the week is that?
Sunday.
Our one day closed.
-Oh you're closed on Sundays?
It's Utah.
I totally forgot the close things on Sundays in Utah.
That's kind of a serious buzzkill.
Serious buzzkill.
-You look a little bit sad. -I'm really sad.
We kind of have our hearts set on August 29th.
It was a day that we both really agreed on,
and it just kind of feels special and significant for us.
Yeah.
I'm funny about that personally.
Just to share with you guys.
-I'm funny about... The two... changing the date?
-Yeah. -Why?
Because dates means something.
That's the reason you celebrate your birthday and your birthday.
I've had a lot of weddings that were just accidentally were wedding days.
If I was picking my wedding day,
and I was picking in advance like you guys were,
I'd really seriously, consider that. Okay?
-Okay. -Yeah.
This is tough.
And honestly, I'm emotionally invested in this place.
But I know this date's important to them.
So your price for a weekend...
-Weekend.
-...Friday and Saturday, is this. Okay.
Okay. Oh, my gosh. Wow.
-Yes. That's great.
-See, told you, Dad. Yeah.
All right, my mind is blown.
But the price is so competitive with other venues
that for what I feel like we get here with this castle,
the price is right.
-Well, thank you so much. -All right, yeah.
Susie, you've been a wonderful host.
Yes, wonderful. Absolutely.
There's this, like, so many incredible options to choose from.
I felt like we were going to have that ah-ha moment
where we looked each other in the eyes, and were like, "This is the spot."
Yeah, I don't think that there's going to be a decision being made, like, right now.
Right now, no.
Thank you so much, Susie.
-All right. Thank you!
Yeah, I'm very excited to get married to you.
I'm so excited.
Returning from my mother's birthday party in Lovell, Wyoming.
There was a bunch of concern amongst all of them
about having a birthday party with, uh, coronapocalypse.
This week, it's just kind of gotten crazy.
There was a lot of uneasiness at the airport.
Flights were getting bumped, getting delayed, things were changing.
It's not to be taken lightly,
but I'm not the kind of guy who wants to panic.
So three days ago, we went on some wedding venue tours
with Audrey, Mariah, my wives and Audrey's parents.
Okay, get back in the sun.
I don't want to get chilled now with coronavirus going free.
Then we all split, went different ways.
So I went to Northern Wyoming for my mom's 80th birthday celebration,
and my wives went home.
So the news cycle picked up this coronavirus story in China
back in December,
and now it's here, and I'm wondering what the hell.
Returning from my mother's birthday party in Lovell, Wyoming,
the town of my birth.
There was a bunch of concern amongst all of them
about having a birthday party with, uh, coronapocalypse.
First thing everybody saying is, "Don't touch, no high fives, no handshakes,"
and then toilet paper, for some reason, is flying off the shelves.
It has an apocalyptic feel to it.
It's not to be taken lightly,
but I'm not the kind of guy who wants to panic.
So I usually talk to my wives when I'm traveling, a little bit.
I'll call in just to check and see how their trips are going and stuff like that.
And, boy, their trip back to Flagstaff was a little spooky.
I saw people in masks.
I was like... It felt like everything I touched was infected.
There was a lot of uneasiness at the airport.
Flights were getting bumped, getting delayed, things were changing,
So we rented a car.
Yep, we rented a car and just drove home.
But it's so weird to sit here and have wives reporting to me
that stores are closing, that the school's going to close.
This week, it's just kind of gotten crazy.
Is everybody unnecessarily panicking?
It's like how do you know whether to continue living life?
What do you do?
I got home from Salt Lake and...
yeah, this point, I'm just kind of, like,
listening to the news reports and reading stuff
and trying to figure out, like, really, what is going on.
Do I need to be nervous?
I can't decide if I need to be nervous.
I have been going anywhere.
I went to the grocery store and was uber, uber careful
with sanitizing everything and washing my hands.
and not touching my face.
You know, you just don't ever know.
So it's kind of like this...
It almost feels like a roulette game when you go out.
We're talking about shutting down
like nobody's going to travel.
They're talking about closing restaurants and businesses
they're talking about closing malls.
We're hearing that the kids are going to be out of school a week.
We just need to kind of keep the kids safe
while we assess what's going on.
I feel scared, and I feel like, um...
you know, it can get us,
and it just makes me want to hole up here in my house
and I don't know, it's...
it's insane.
It's going all over China,
all over Europe, it's going crazy.
It's just like tons and tons of people are getting it,
and it's killing people.
So everybody's got these opinions and nobody knows what to do.
And I'm rambling because, frankly, I don't know what to do.
What do we do?
How do we maintain life?
And when do I ever see my family?
Federal government arguing about what to do,
the state government's, arguing about what to do.
I mean, we're just... There's just...
Nobody knows what to do.
I don't know. I just feel scared.
Next time onSister Wives...
The whole country has sort of been told
that we need to start doing social distancing.
I mean, if one of us gets sick,
then it's literally quarantining the family.
Flagstaff now has a case of coronavirus.
Well, today, with coronavirus going on,
not everybody wanted... no one to leave their house.
I think maybe I better, like, not have Kody even come.
If for some reason, we ended up infected,
he would then bring it to all of you guys.
It's, like, What are... What are we doing?
I don't even know.
Like, how can we work our relationships
if you can't even see each other to talk to?