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PREVIOUSLY ON "SISTER WIVES"...
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WE'RE GONNA BE VISITING
WITH ANOTHER PLURAL FAMILY.
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WE'VE KNOWN THEM FOR YEARS.
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-HEY, THERE!
-OH, MY GOSH, HI.
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YOU KNOW,
THE DARGERS LIVE UNDER ONE ROOF.
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THEY JUST HAVE FIGURED OUT
HOW TO MAKE IT WORK.
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I UNDERSTAND KODY'S
WANTING EVERYONE TOGETHER,
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'CAUSE I THINK THE CONS
SEEM PETTY TO ME.
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I HATE THIS CONVERSATION.
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DO YOU WANT TO HAVE
A RELATIONSHIP
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WITH YOUR SISTER-WIFE?
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MAYBE THERE ARE
SOME OF US WHO ARE LIKE,
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"LOOK, I DON'T
WANT IT ANYMORE."
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OUR CHURCH
DOES NOT BELIEVE
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THAT SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIPS
ARE APPROPRIATE...
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--WHAT?!WHAT?!
-WHAT?!
-WHAT?!
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...AND WE ACCEPT MARIAH
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AND HER CHOOSING
TO MARRY AUDREY.
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I THINK OUR YOUNGER CHILDREN
DON'T EVEN MAKE THE DISTINCTION.
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THEY'RE IN LOVE,
SO THEY'RE GONNA GET MARRIED.
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MERI, IT'S THIS SIMPLE.
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I SUGGESTED
A PLACE FOR YOU.
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UH-HUH.
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YOU SUGGESTED THAT
YOU WEREN'T INTO THAT.
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SO SOMEBODY ELSE SAID, "WELL,
I WOULD LIKE TO BE THERE."
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I REALLY HAVEN'T SPENT
A LOT OF TIME
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TRYING TO, LIKE,
FIGURE OUT
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WHAT WOULD BE MY ULTIMATE SPOT
ON THAT PROPERTY.
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YOU WANTED TO BE
IN THE TREES, MERI.
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AND THEN, YOU TOLD US
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THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE
IN THE TREES ANYMORE.
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THERE WASN'T A PROBLEM HERE
UNTIL MERI SAID,
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"I DON'T WANT THAT,
AND I DON'T WANT THIS,
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BUT I DON'T KNOW
WHAT I WANT."
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I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NEED
THIS CONVERSATION TODAY
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TO NOT BE
AN ATTACK ON ME.
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IT'S NOT.
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SO, THE LAST TIME
THAT MARIAH AND AUDREY
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WERE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF
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WAS WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED
THAT THEY WERE ENGAGED,
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AND THAT WAS
ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
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IT'S BEEN WAY TOO LONG.
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WE'RE HERE
VISITING FAMILY.
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WE HAVEN'T BEEN HERE...
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-A HOT MINUTE.
-IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
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SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN MOST OF
THE FAMILY IN A WHILE,
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AND WE'RE GONNA JUST TALK
TO 'EM ABOUT SOME PLANS --
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SOME CHANGES TO
OUR PLANS, I GUESS...
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YEP....THAT WE'VE BEEN MADE.
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HELLO!
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KODY AND JANELLE ARE
OUT OF TOWN,
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SO THEY WON'T GET IN ON THIS
LITTLE TIDBIT OF INFORMATION.
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WE'LL HAVE TO SHARE THAT
WITH THEM LATER.
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HEY!
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HI!
-HI!
-HI!
HI!
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HELLO, SISTERS!
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HEY!
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OH, MY GOSH.
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AUDREY AND MARIAH ARE
IN TOWN, FINALLY!
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WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM FOR MONTHS
AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.
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I'M SO EXCITED.
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IT'S SO -- EASY!
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MARIAH AND AUDREY
LIVE IN CHICAGO,
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SO THEY JUST LIVE
TOO FAR AWAY FOR US
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TO GO VISIT THEM
ALL THE TIME.
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IT'S JUST SAD.
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I MISSED YOU GUYS.
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WE MISSED YOU, TOO.
IT'S BEEN TOO LONG.
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IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG.
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YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE KIDS
FOR HOW LONG?
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IT'S BEEN
ALMOST A YEAR.
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OH, MY GOD.
YEAH.
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BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY DECIDED
TO MOVE BACK TO UTAH.
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ISN'T THIS THE MOST
EXCITING THING
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YOU'VE EVER HEARD
IN YOUR WHOLE LIFE?
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YEAH.
IT'S AWESOME!
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I MEAN, IT IS FOR ME!
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HONESTLY, THAT'S
THE BEST NEWS EVER.
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NOW IF ONLY WE COULD
GET TO UTAH.
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OH, MY GOSH.
I DID NOT GO THERE.
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I AM, OF COURSE,
KIDDING.
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OF COURSE.
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WE'RE GONNA MOVE BACK
BECAUSE WE MISS BEING
AROUND YOU GUYS, AND...
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REALLY?
SO, TO UTAH.
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...AND A YEAR WITHOUT MY
SIBLINGS IS WAY TOO LONG.
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YEAH.
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AND I'M SORRY
THAT I DID THAT.
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UTAH IS A PLACE
THAT THEY LOVE.
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AUDREY GREW UP
IN UTAH, AS WELL,
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SO UTAH IS JUST
HOME FOR THEM.
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REALLY? WHAT PART?
ARE YOU GOING BACK TO SALT LAKE?
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WE'LL GO BACK
TO SALT LAKE.
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REALLY? OKAY.
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WE'LL GO BACK
TO SALT LAKE.
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WE LOVE CHICAGO,
BUT IT'S TIME.
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IT'S TIME FOR US
TO BE HOME, I THINK.
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YEAH, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT
WE'RE REALLY STARTING
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TO THINK ABOUT WHAT STARTING
A FAMILY LOOKS LIKE FOR US.
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IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
THAT WE BE CLOSE TO FAMILY
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AND PEOPLE THAT ARE
CLOSE TO US.
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EVENTUALLY, YES,
WE WILL START A FAMILY.
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YEAH.
DON'T WORRY.
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WE'RE GONNA
GET MARRIED FIRST.
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WHEN ARE YOU GONNA DO IT?
WHEN ARE YOU GONNA BE MOVING?
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SO, I'M GONNA
FINISH THE SEMESTER,
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AND THEN I WILL TRANSFER MY
SOCIAL WORK DEGREE TO THE U.
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SO THIS IS --
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-SO, LIKE THIS SUMMER.
-THIS SUMMER!
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LIKE, IN SIX MONTHS.
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OKAY, SO,
YOU'RE NOT GETTING MARRIED
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IN CHICAGO EITHER ANYMORE.
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SO WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT GONNA GET
MARRIED IN CHICAGO ANYMORE.
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ALL RIGHT.
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WE'RE GONNA GET MARRIED
IN SALT LAKE.
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WELL, NO WONDER YOU NEVER
SAID A LOCATION!
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YOU NEVER SAID A LOCATION
OR ANYTHING!
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I'M SO EXCITED TO HELP THEM
START PLANNING THE WEDDING.
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NO, WE HAVEN'T EVEN
SET A LOCATION YET,
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SO IT'S KIND OF PERFECT.
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WELL, WE WERE TALKING TO
OUR FRIENDS, AND THEY WERE LIKE,
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"YOU GUYS LOVE
THE MOUNTAINS SO MUCH.
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WHY AREN'T YOU GETTING
MARRIED IN THE MOUNTAINS?"
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AND WE WERE LIKE,
"THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
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WHY AREN'T WE GETTING
MARRIED IN THE MOUNTAINS?"
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WE'LL PROBABLY BE
GETTING MARRIED
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IN ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF,
AT THIS POINT.
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HOW ARE YOU GUYS
FEELING ABOUT IT?
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HOW DO YOU FEEL
ABOUT IT?
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WE FEEL SO MUCH PEACE
ABOUT IT, 'CAUSE WE --
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WE HAD NO IDEA
WHAT TO DO,
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'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN
SO BUSY IN CHICAGO,
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AND WE'VE BEEN
MISSING YOU GUYS.
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WE'VE BEEN MISSING UTAH.
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WE'VE BEEN MISSING --
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AND WE HAVE SO MANY
OPPORTUNITIES.
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WE'VE BEEN
MISSING GRANDMA.
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SO, YOU GUYS ARE MOVING BACK
'CAUSE YOU MISS PEOPLE?
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-IT'S PEOPLE, MOSTLY?
-YEAH.
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I BROUGHT IT UP
TO AUDREY.
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I MEAN, SHE'S BEEN
KIND OF STRUGGLING
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WITH BEING THERE
FOR A BIT,
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AND I BROUGHT IT UP TO HER
A FEW WEEKS AGO.
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I MEAN, I COULD SEE THAT
IT WAS HARD FOR AUDREY
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TO LIVE IN CHICAGO.
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I COULD TELL
IT WAS HARD FOR HER.
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I MEAN, I...
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I THINK WHAT REALLY GOT ME
WAS OVER CHRISTMAS.
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I WAS JUST LIKE, "I HAVEN'T
BEEN WITH MY FAMILY
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FOR TWO CHRISTMASES."
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AND THEN I REALIZED, "OH,
I HAVEN'T SEEN MY SIBLINGS
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FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR."
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IT'S LIKE, "WE NEED TO
BE AROUND THEM" --
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AND ESPECIALLY THESE TWO.
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LIKE, I MEAN, COME ON.
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IT'S TRUE.
IT'S TRUE.
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MARIAH'S GOT A REALLY COOL BOND
WITH ALL OF HER SIBLINGS.
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MARIAH'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS,
ALWAYS EMBRACED
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ALL OF THE KIDS
WITH EXTREME ENTHUSIASM.
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LIKE, SHE LOVES ALL OF HER
SIBLINGS -- LOVES THEM --
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AND MAKES ALL OF THEM
FEEL SPECIAL,
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AND THEY ALL KNOW
THEY ARE LOVED BY MARIAH.
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I THINK IT'S PROBABLY
MORE COMMON IN PLURAL FAMILIES
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THAT YOU HAVE
THE OLDER SIBLINGS
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WHO, YOU KNOW,
MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE
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AND GO ON WITH THEIR LIVES
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WHILE THE YOUNGER KIDS
ARE STILL GROWING UP,
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AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT MARIAH
IS GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
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I'M ONE OF
THE OLDER KIDS IN MY FAMILY,
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AND WHEN I MOVED OUT,
THE KIDS WERE YOUNGER.
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LIKE, MY SIBLINGS FROM MY
OTHER MOM WERE WAY YOUNGER.
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I HAVE A SIBLING
FROM MY OTHER MOM
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THAT'S ASPYN'S AGE,
FOR GOODNESS SAKES.
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I DON'T KNOW MY
YOUNGER SIBLINGS AS WELL
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UNTIL WE MOVED OUT,
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AND EVEN NOW,
I DON'T KNOW THEM THAT WELL.
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I WISH I WOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD
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HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS
TO MAINTAIN A RELATIONSHIP
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WITH MY YOUNGER SIBLINGS
AFTER I MOVED OUT.
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I KNOW
FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE,
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I GOT MARRIED,
AND I MOVED OUT,
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AND, YOU KNOW, I HAD MY
YOUNGEST SISTER, DEBRA,
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WHO WAS LIKE TWO-AND-A-HALF
WHEN I GOT MARRIED.
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AND SHE WAS FROM
MY MOM, YOU KNOW --
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NOT TO MENTION
ALL MY OTHER SIBLINGS
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THAT WERE NOT FROM MY MOM.
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YOU KNOW?
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AND I DIDN'T HAVE, REALLY,
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A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM...
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...UNTIL THEY GOT OLDER.
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SO THE FACT THAT SHE REALLY,
REALLY WANTS TO BE CLOSER
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SO THAT SHE CAN HAVE
THOSE RELATIONSHIPS
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WITH THE YOUNGER KIDS,
I THINK, IS AWESOME.
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I LIVED IN UTAH FROM WHEN
I WAS SIX UNTIL WHEN WE LEFT,
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AND SO, THAT
BIG CHANGE OF --
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LIKE, THAT WAS A BIG
MOVE FOR ME, EMOTIONALLY.
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AND I DON'T HAVE A LOT
OF FRIENDS IN CHICAGO,
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AND MY SIBLING --
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A COUPLE OF MY SIBLINGS
ARE STILL IN SALT LAKE.
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I'VE BEEN REALLY
STRUGGLING IN CHICAGO.
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A LOT OF IT IS, LIKE,
FOR MENTAL HEALTH REASONS.
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I'VE BEEN
WORKING FROM HOME,
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AND SO, I HAVEN'T REALLY
HAD A CHANCE TO GO OUT
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AND MEET A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE
AND HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS.
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AND SO, I FEEL VERY
ISOLATED OUT IN CHICAGO
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BECAUSE ALL OF MY FRIENDS
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AND EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING
THAT I KNOW ARE IN SALT LAKE.
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'CAUSE CHICAGO'S
BEEN WONDERFUL,
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AND IT'S AN ABSOLUTELY
GREAT CITY.
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IT'S JUST NOT THE PLACE FOR ME
WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.
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OUR FRIEND BASE IS THERE,
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AND JUST SO MANY
OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
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WE HAVE A REALLY
BIG NETWORK THERE.
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SO, ALL AROUND,
IT JUST MAKES.
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HOST OF REASONS,
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AND THE TIMING WORKED OUT
TO BE, YOU KNOW,
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IN A FEW MONTHS.
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EEE!
YAY!
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-YAY!
-WHOO-HOO!
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SO, NOW WE CAN
HANG OUT.
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KODY'S GONNA BE
VERY EXCITED.
223
00:08:55,241 --> 00:09:00,275
HE'S GONNA BE GLAD THAT
SHE'S NOT QUITE SO FAR AWAY.
224
00:09:00,275 --> 00:09:02,551
HE LIKES HIS KIDS AROUND.
225
00:09:02,551 --> 00:09:06,620
HIS BIG THING --
HIS WHOLE LIFE...
226
00:09:06,620 --> 00:09:08,103
IS HIS KIDS.
227
00:09:08,103 --> 00:09:12,103
THAT IS WHO
HIS LIFE FOCUSES.
228
00:09:13,241 --> 00:09:14,275
WELL, LET'S DO IT.
WHAT THE HECK.
229
00:09:14,275 --> 00:09:15,448
ALL RIGHT--GROUP HUG!
230
00:09:15,448 --> 00:09:16,862
COME ON, KIDS,
GROUP HUG!
231
00:09:16,862 --> 00:09:18,275
I LIKE THIS.
232
00:09:19,379 --> 00:09:23,275
I LOVE THAT
THEY HAD THAT EXPERIENCE
233
00:09:23,275 --> 00:09:25,310
OF LIVING IN CHICAGO,
234
00:09:25,310 --> 00:09:29,241
AND IT'S JUST A FUN
AND DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.
235
00:09:29,241 --> 00:09:32,241
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT I EVER WAS ABLE TO DO.
236
00:09:36,965 --> 00:09:38,551
I CAME FROM
A DIFFERENT CULTURE
237
00:09:38,551 --> 00:09:41,793
THAN WHAT WE'VE TRIED
TO CREATE FOR OUR KIDS.
238
00:09:41,793 --> 00:09:43,758
YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH
IT WAS LIKE
239
00:09:43,758 --> 00:09:45,620
THE POLYGAMOUS CULTURE...
240
00:09:45,620 --> 00:09:50,310
...THE CULTURE
I GREW UP IN WAS...
241
00:09:50,310 --> 00:09:53,482
"YOU NEED TO GET MARRIED
WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG,
242
00:09:53,482 --> 00:09:56,000
AND YOU NEED TO HAVE KIDS,
243
00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,586
AND YOU NEED TO BE QUIET
ABOUT WHO YOU ARE,
244
00:09:58,586 --> 00:10:02,137
AND YOU NEED TO JUST STAY
IN THIS LITTLE BOX."
245
00:10:02,137 --> 00:10:05,103
AND WE'VE TRIED TO CREATE,
246
00:10:05,103 --> 00:10:08,517
"YOU CAN DO WHATEVER
YOU WANT TO DO"
247
00:10:08,517 --> 00:10:10,482
FOR OUR KIDS,
YOU KNOW?
248
00:10:10,482 --> 00:10:12,896
AND SHE'S DOING IT.
249
00:10:12,896 --> 00:10:14,344
SO, THIS MEANS
THIS CHRISTMAS,
250
00:10:14,344 --> 00:10:16,275
YOU GUYS ARE GONNA
BE HERE AGAIN!
251
00:10:16,275 --> 00:10:17,275
YEAH.
YES!
252
00:10:17,275 --> 00:10:18,896
AND THANKSGIVING,
MAYBE, TOO!
253
00:10:18,896 --> 00:10:19,931
THEY'RE JUST A GOOD COUPLE.
254
00:10:19,931 --> 00:10:21,413
THEY COMMUNICATE WELL
WITH EACH OTHER.
255
00:10:21,413 --> 00:10:23,586
BUT THIS IS, TOO --
IS IT SHOWS ME
256
00:10:23,586 --> 00:10:25,034
HOW THEY'RE IN SYNC
WITH EACH OTHER
257
00:10:25,034 --> 00:10:26,172
AND COMMUNICATING
WITH EACH OTHER
258
00:10:26,172 --> 00:10:27,655
AND WORKING WITH
EACH OTHER.
259
00:10:27,655 --> 00:10:30,413
AND EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW,
CHICAGO MAY HAVE BEEN BETTER
260
00:10:30,413 --> 00:10:32,172
FOR ONE OF THEM
THAN THE OTHER,
261
00:10:32,172 --> 00:10:33,551
THEY'RE JUST WILLING
TO GIVE AND TAKE
262
00:10:33,551 --> 00:10:36,068
AND MAKE IT
A TRUE PARTNERSHIP.
263
00:10:36,068 --> 00:10:37,413
I MEAN, IN MY MIND,
264
00:10:37,413 --> 00:10:39,965
I THINK MARIAH LIKED IT
A LOT MORE THAN AUDREY DID,
265
00:10:39,965 --> 00:10:42,931
BUT THEY WERE STILL WILLING
TO DO WHATEVER WAS NECESSARY
266
00:10:42,931 --> 00:10:45,448
TO MAKE IT SO THEY WOULD
BOTH BE HAPPY,
267
00:10:45,448 --> 00:10:48,241
AND IT'S JUST AN INCREDIBLE MOVE
FOR A COUPLE TO MAKE.
268
00:10:48,241 --> 00:10:50,896
THAT'S THE BEST PART OF THEM
MOVING TO SALT LAKE,
269
00:10:50,896 --> 00:10:52,758
IS IT'S SOMETHING
THAT THEY'RE DOING TOGETHER,
270
00:10:52,758 --> 00:10:55,000
AND THEY'RE JUST --
271
00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,034
THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN
HELP THE OTHER PERSON
272
00:10:58,034 --> 00:11:01,689
BE HAPPIER AND LIVE
THEIR BEST LIFE IN SALT LAKE.
273
00:11:01,689 --> 00:11:04,034
I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD MOVE
TO SALT LAKE NEXT,
274
00:11:04,034 --> 00:11:06,137
OUT OF THE KIDS.
275
00:11:06,137 --> 00:11:07,344
MAYBE...
276
00:11:07,344 --> 00:11:08,931
PSHH, US.
277
00:11:08,931 --> 00:11:10,482
NOPE, JUST NOTHING.
278
00:11:15,034 --> 00:11:18,103
SO, WHEN ARE WE GONNA
START BUILDING, THEN?
279
00:11:18,103 --> 00:11:20,172
I THINK NOW IS THE TIME
FOR US TO MAKE A PLAN
280
00:11:20,172 --> 00:11:21,793
ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO
A COYOTE PASS.
281
00:11:21,793 --> 00:11:22,793
IT'S TIME.
282
00:11:22,793 --> 00:11:23,931
HONESTLY, I'M WORN OUT
283
00:11:23,931 --> 00:11:26,103
AND DISCOURAGED
ABOUT BUILDING.
284
00:11:26,103 --> 00:11:27,862
I JUST DON'T EVEN WANT TO
TALK ABOUT IT
285
00:11:27,862 --> 00:11:29,413
OR TALK ABOUT A PLAN.
286
00:11:29,413 --> 00:11:30,413
LET'S TAKE A BREATHER.
287
00:11:41,724 --> 00:11:43,965
I'M HAVING ALL THE ADULTS
OVER TODAY.
288
00:11:43,965 --> 00:11:46,137
MY HOUSE IN LAS VEGAS --
289
00:11:46,137 --> 00:11:48,103
I JUST HAVE SOME NEWS
TO TELL THEM.
290
00:11:49,206 --> 00:11:51,172
IT'S NOT A BOMB DROP.
IT'S NOT BAD.
291
00:11:51,172 --> 00:11:52,517
IT'S GOOD.
292
00:11:52,517 --> 00:11:53,586
IT'S GOOD NEWS.
293
00:11:53,586 --> 00:11:56,724
IT'S GREAT NEWS
THAT I'M DROPPING.
294
00:11:57,931 --> 00:11:59,862
OH, MY GOODNESS.
295
00:11:59,862 --> 00:12:02,586
WE WERE CALLED OVER
FOR ANOTHER FAMILY MEETING.
296
00:12:02,586 --> 00:12:06,689
THIS HAPPENS ON OCCASION,
AND I JUST NEVER KNOW
297
00:12:06,689 --> 00:12:09,379
WHAT THE CONVERSATION
IS GONNA BE.
298
00:12:09,379 --> 00:12:10,586
YOU JUST NEVER KNOW.
299
00:12:10,586 --> 00:12:13,482
WHENEVER WE GET TOGETHER,
IT COULD BE ANYTHING.
300
00:12:16,344 --> 00:12:17,931
OKAY, I HAVE
THE BEST NEWS.
301
00:12:17,931 --> 00:12:20,724
I GOT AN OFFER
ON MY HOUSE IN VEGAS.
302
00:12:20,724 --> 00:12:23,103
OH, MY GOSH!
303
00:12:23,103 --> 00:12:24,034
HALLELUJAH!
304
00:12:24,034 --> 00:12:25,241
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE
305
00:12:25,241 --> 00:12:27,827
WHY CHRISTINE'S HOUSE
TOOK SO LONG TO SELL.
306
00:12:27,827 --> 00:12:28,965
IT WAS THE
FIRST ONE ON THE MARKET,
307
00:12:28,965 --> 00:12:30,482
AND NOW IT'S THE LAST ONE
TO SELL.
308
00:12:30,482 --> 00:12:32,793
THAT'S CALLED IRONY,
AND IT SUCKS.
309
00:12:32,793 --> 00:12:34,310
OH, MY GOSH!
310
00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:36,965
I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA
TELL US YOU WERE PREGNANT.
311
00:12:36,965 --> 00:12:38,551
OH, NO,
THE WOMB IS CLOSED.
312
00:12:38,551 --> 00:12:39,586
DID YOU REALLY
THINK THAT?
313
00:12:39,586 --> 00:12:41,103
NO, SHE DIDN'T.
314
00:12:41,103 --> 00:12:42,586
-SHE'S JOKING.
-JUST CHECKING.
315
00:12:42,586 --> 00:12:45,689
THE WOMB IS CLOSED
FOR BUSINESS.
316
00:12:45,689 --> 00:12:48,379
THIS IS SUCH A THROWBACK,
'CAUSE YEARS AND YEARS AGO,
317
00:12:48,379 --> 00:12:49,551
WHENEVER WE HAD
THESE, LIKE --
318
00:12:49,551 --> 00:12:51,620
I GOTTA TELL YOU SOMETHING.
I HAVE NEWS."
319
00:12:51,620 --> 00:12:52,827
IT WAS ALWAYS,
320
00:12:52,827 --> 00:12:54,344
"WE'RE GONNA HAVE
ANOTHER BABY."
321
00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,034
FOR MANY --
FOR, LIKE, DECADES,
322
00:12:58,034 --> 00:13:00,172
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS
KIND OF OUR THING,
323
00:13:00,172 --> 00:13:02,379
SO I GUESS WE CAN'T
LET GO OF THAT HABIT.
324
00:13:04,517 --> 00:13:05,896
YOU KNOW, MADDIE SAID
A LONG TIME AGO,
325
00:13:05,896 --> 00:13:08,172
"KODY'S SOUL MATE
IS HIS CHILDREN."
326
00:13:08,172 --> 00:13:10,344
SO, THAT IDEA OF
HAVING MORE CHILDREN
327
00:13:10,344 --> 00:13:12,724
IS GONNA ALWAYS BE
APPEALING TO KODY.
328
00:13:12,724 --> 00:13:15,241
I DON'T THINK
SHE WANTS ANYMORE LOVING.
329
00:13:15,241 --> 00:13:17,310
I DON'T THINK KODY WILL EVER
BE DONE HAVING CHILDREN,
330
00:13:17,310 --> 00:13:18,413
AND EVERY TIME HE'S LIKE...
331
00:13:18,413 --> 00:13:19,413
"I DON'T KNOW,
332
00:13:19,413 --> 00:13:20,758
I MIGHT HAVE MORE KIDS."
333
00:13:20,758 --> 00:13:23,068
I'M LIKE,
"OH MY GOSH, NOT FROM ME!"
334
00:13:23,068 --> 00:13:24,931
YES, CHECK.
335
00:13:24,931 --> 00:13:27,793
GO TO ANOTHER WIFE,
BECAUSE, NOPE.
336
00:13:27,793 --> 00:13:28,965
MY WOMB IS CLOSED.
337
00:13:28,965 --> 00:13:30,000
YEAH, I CAN'T BELIEVE...
338
00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,482
YEP.
339
00:13:31,482 --> 00:13:33,275
I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE
ACCEPTING THE OFFER?
340
00:13:33,275 --> 00:13:35,586
I ACCEPTED IT WITHIN
A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
341
00:13:35,586 --> 00:13:37,275
IT'S A LOT LESS THAN I WANT.
342
00:13:37,275 --> 00:13:39,965
A LOT LESS.
LIKE, A LOT LESS.
343
00:13:39,965 --> 00:13:41,275
BUT IT'S CASH,
344
00:13:41,275 --> 00:13:43,965
AND THEY WANT IT IN A WEEK,
AND THEY WILL --
345
00:13:43,965 --> 00:13:46,448
WELL, AND THEY'LL TAKE IT
AS-IS, WHICH IS HUGE.
346
00:13:46,448 --> 00:13:47,965
I THINK WE TOOK A HIT --
347
00:13:47,965 --> 00:13:51,586
ALL OF EVERY HOUSE WAS, LIKE,
WAY LESS THAN WE THOUGHT.
348
00:13:51,586 --> 00:13:52,827
HERE'S THE
THING, THOUGH --
349
00:13:52,827 --> 00:13:55,448
THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID
ABOUT HAVING IT...
350
00:13:55,448 --> 00:13:56,586
-DONE.
-DONE.
351
00:13:56,586 --> 00:13:59,206
IT'S TIME TO FINALLY SAY
GOODBYE TO VEGAS.
352
00:14:01,103 --> 00:14:03,862
I MISS MY HOUSE
IN VEGAS LIKE CRAZY,
353
00:14:03,862 --> 00:14:06,517
SO I'M WAITING TILL THIS
FEELS MORE LIKE HOME.
354
00:14:06,517 --> 00:14:08,379
I DON'T FEEL
QUITE SETTLED.
355
00:14:09,896 --> 00:14:12,413
NO MATTER WHAT HOME
YOU LEAVE BEHIND,
356
00:14:12,413 --> 00:14:15,344
THERE IS ALWAYS AN EMOTIONAL
CONNECTION TO A HOME.
357
00:14:15,344 --> 00:14:18,275
THE HARDEST WAS ACTUALLY...
358
00:14:18,275 --> 00:14:20,344
THE LEHI HOUSE
IN LEHI, UTAH,
359
00:14:20,344 --> 00:14:24,137
WHERE, YOU KNOW,
WE ALL LIVED TOGETHER.
360
00:14:26,034 --> 00:14:28,689
MY FIRST TRIP BACK TO UTAH
AFTER WE HAD MOVED TO LAS VEGAS
361
00:14:28,689 --> 00:14:30,241
WAS VERY EMOTIONAL.
362
00:14:30,241 --> 00:14:33,482
IT WAS --
IT WAS VERY HARD.
363
00:14:33,482 --> 00:14:35,413
WE WERE GOING BACK,
BASICALLY,
364
00:14:35,413 --> 00:14:37,586
TO TAKE OUR DOG DRAKE
BACK TO HIS HOME --
365
00:14:37,586 --> 00:14:39,379
BACK TO WHERE HE HAD SPENT
MOST OF HIS LIFE --
366
00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:41,724
BECAUSE HE WASN'T WELL,
AND WE WERE PRETTY SURE
367
00:14:41,724 --> 00:14:43,275
WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO
PUT HIM DOWN.
368
00:14:44,965 --> 00:14:45,965
DO YOU NEED A SECOND?
369
00:14:45,965 --> 00:14:48,172
DO YOU NEED A HUG
OR SOMETHING?
370
00:14:48,172 --> 00:14:52,862
SO, WE TOOK HIM BACK TO
OUR HOME AND LEHI, UTAH...
371
00:14:54,931 --> 00:14:57,000
OH, GEEZ.
372
00:15:07,689 --> 00:15:09,655
AND WE PUT HIM TO SLEEP.
373
00:15:12,827 --> 00:15:14,310
I'M SORRY, GIRLS.
374
00:15:18,793 --> 00:15:21,724
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME...
375
00:15:21,724 --> 00:15:24,689
...THAN I REALLY EVER
OWNED THE EMOTIONS
376
00:15:24,689 --> 00:15:28,724
OF THE STRUGGLE WE HAD
LEAVING LEHI.
377
00:15:30,758 --> 00:15:33,482
THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE
FROM HOME TO HOME --
378
00:15:33,482 --> 00:15:35,413
IT'S SO EMOTIONAL
379
00:15:35,413 --> 00:15:38,862
JUST TO THINK ABOUT ONE HOUSE
TO THE NEXT TO THE NEXT.
380
00:15:38,862 --> 00:15:41,827
AND HERE WE ARE LIVING IN THIS
BEAUTIFUL PLACE IN FLAGSTAFF,
381
00:15:41,827 --> 00:15:44,241
BUT IT AIN'T HOME YET.
382
00:15:46,586 --> 00:15:51,482
SOMETHING ABOUT
GETTING TO FLAGSTAFF...
383
00:15:51,482 --> 00:15:55,448
TIRED ME OUT
SPECIFIC TO...
384
00:15:55,448 --> 00:15:57,275
MARITAL RELATIONSHIPS
AND WIVES.
385
00:15:57,275 --> 00:15:59,379
WE'RE NOT
ON THE SAME PAGE
386
00:15:59,379 --> 00:16:02,448
ABOUT HOW OUR FAMILY
SHOULD EXIST
387
00:16:02,448 --> 00:16:04,310
AND HOW WE SHOULD BEHAVE
WITH EACH OTHER.
388
00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:07,000
WE'RE NOT THE FAMILY
WE USED TO BE.
389
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,551
SO, I HAVEN'T TOLD
THE KIDS YET 'CAUSE --
390
00:16:08,551 --> 00:16:12,965
AND THEIR NEXT QUESTION
IS GOING TO BE...
391
00:16:12,965 --> 00:16:15,379
"SO, WHEN ARE WE GONNA
START BUILDING, THEN?"
392
00:16:18,034 --> 00:16:19,068
WHAT CAN I TELL THE KIDS?
393
00:16:19,068 --> 00:16:21,034
LIKE, CAN WE MAKE
A PLAN HERE?
394
00:16:21,034 --> 00:16:24,275
NOW THAT MY HOUSE IS SOLD,
WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
395
00:16:25,551 --> 00:16:28,620
I REALLY DO BELIEVE
THAT WE ALL STILL WANT TO
396
00:16:28,620 --> 00:16:32,931
GET OUT AT THE PROPERTY,
BUT I ALSO SEE, YOU KNOW,
397
00:16:32,931 --> 00:16:36,275
WHERE THE EMOTIONAL HEALTH IS
OF THE FAMILY,
398
00:16:36,275 --> 00:16:38,310
AND IT'S...
399
00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:41,034
IT'S NOT THE BEST
RIGHT NOW.
400
00:16:43,172 --> 00:16:45,586
TRUELY WAS JUST TALKING
ABOUT IT THIS MORNING,
401
00:16:45,586 --> 00:16:47,758
AND SHE'S LIKE,
"I'M EXCITED.
402
00:16:47,758 --> 00:16:50,000
AS SOON AS WE SELL
THE HOUSE IN LAS VEGAS,
403
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,620
THEN WE CAN
START BUILDING."
404
00:16:51,620 --> 00:16:53,310
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT
WE'VE ALWAYS SAID, IS,
405
00:16:53,310 --> 00:16:54,793
WE FIRST OF ALL
NEED TO SELL,
406
00:16:54,793 --> 00:16:56,241
AND THEN WE CAN BUILD.
407
00:16:56,241 --> 00:16:59,241
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE
LOGICAL QUESTION TO ASK NEXT.
408
00:16:59,241 --> 00:17:00,586
WHAT ARE WE THINKING
WITH THE PROPERTY,
409
00:17:00,586 --> 00:17:02,448
AND WHAT ARE WE
GONNA DO NEXT?
410
00:17:06,448 --> 00:17:08,000
JUST A LITTLE
DISCOURAGED.
411
00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,137
THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT,
AND FRANKLY, I DON'T.
412
00:17:11,137 --> 00:17:12,448
I WANT TO AVOID IT.
413
00:17:14,551 --> 00:17:16,655
I THINK NOW IS THE TIME
FOR US TO MAKE A PLAN
414
00:17:16,655 --> 00:17:18,137
ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO
AT COYOTE PASS.
415
00:17:18,137 --> 00:17:20,103
IT'S TIME.
416
00:17:20,103 --> 00:17:23,206
I THINK CHRISTINE,
ROBYN, MERI, AND I ARE ALL LIKE,
417
00:17:23,206 --> 00:17:25,172
"OKAY, LET'S GO.
LET'S GET THE SURVEYOR.
418
00:17:25,172 --> 00:17:26,620
LET'S GET OUT THERE."
419
00:17:26,620 --> 00:17:28,965
AND I THINK KODY RUNS AROUND
WITH THIS THOUSAND YARD STARE.
420
00:17:28,965 --> 00:17:30,586
HE'S SPREAD SO THIN.
421
00:17:30,586 --> 00:17:31,862
HE HAS SO MUCH
RESPONSIBILITY,
422
00:17:31,862 --> 00:17:33,310
SO MUCH ON HIS PLATE.
423
00:17:34,655 --> 00:17:36,103
HE'S JUST REACTING,
AT THIS POINT,
424
00:17:36,103 --> 00:17:37,586
INSTEAD OF PLANNING.
425
00:17:39,379 --> 00:17:40,344
JUST 'CAUSE
THE HOUSES ARE SOLD
426
00:17:40,344 --> 00:17:42,482
DOESN'T MEAN
WE'VE GOT MONEY.
427
00:17:42,482 --> 00:17:44,103
I KNOW WE'RE NOT
READY TO BUILD, BUT --
428
00:17:44,103 --> 00:17:46,344
WE'RE JUST NOT --
I DON'T KNOW.
429
00:17:46,344 --> 00:17:51,068
KODY IS REALLY GOOD
AT THE STARTING PART OF AN IDEA.
430
00:17:51,068 --> 00:17:53,068
PUTS SO MUCH
ENERGY INTO THAT
431
00:17:53,068 --> 00:17:55,379
THAT SOMETIMES,
HE STARTS GETTING
432
00:17:55,379 --> 00:17:58,241
A LITTLE BIT EXHAUSTED
TOWARDS THE END OF IT.
433
00:17:58,241 --> 00:18:00,241
THE EXECUTION, THOUGH,
IS SOMETIMES A LITTLE --
434
00:18:00,241 --> 00:18:02,862
A LITTLE BIT
WHERE HE GETS LOST.
435
00:18:05,689 --> 00:18:07,344
I CAN BE
A FINISHER, YES --
436
00:18:07,344 --> 00:18:08,586
I DO FINISH --
437
00:18:08,586 --> 00:18:11,275
BUT THERE'S A LOT
OF PROJECTS I START,
438
00:18:11,275 --> 00:18:13,827
AND THERE'S JUST NEVER
THE TIME TO MAKE IT,
439
00:18:13,827 --> 00:18:15,172
TO FINISH IT OUT.
440
00:18:16,965 --> 00:18:18,965
I'M REALLY GOOD AT
STARTING PROJECTS.
441
00:18:18,965 --> 00:18:20,206
NOT SO GOOD AT FINISHING,
442
00:18:20,206 --> 00:18:23,068
BECAUSE THEN IT LOSES
ITS INTERESTING FACTOR.
443
00:18:23,068 --> 00:18:25,000
I DEFINITELY DON'T
CONSIDER MYSELF A VISIONARY.
444
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,344
I'M THE WORKER BEE
WHO MAKES SOMETHING HAPPEN.
445
00:18:28,344 --> 00:18:31,413
ONCE THE IDEA
IS KIND OF FORMULATED,
446
00:18:31,413 --> 00:18:33,931
I'M LIKE,
"OKAY, LET'S GO FOR IT."
447
00:18:33,931 --> 00:18:35,206
I THINK I'M A FINISHER.
448
00:18:35,206 --> 00:18:37,275
SO IT'S PROBABLY GOOD
THAT I WAS FOURTH WIFE,
449
00:18:37,275 --> 00:18:40,586
'CAUSE I FINISH.
450
00:18:41,793 --> 00:18:43,620
BUT IT WOULD BE NICE
TO KNOW EXACTLY --
451
00:18:43,620 --> 00:18:44,793
IF WE CAN
FIGURE OUT, LIKE,
452
00:18:44,793 --> 00:18:47,758
WHERE THE LOTS
ARE GOING TO BE,
453
00:18:47,758 --> 00:18:50,793
AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK
TO THE DISCUSSION
454
00:18:50,793 --> 00:18:53,896
OF, LIKE, WHO'S GONNA
GO WHERE, AND THEN --
455
00:18:53,896 --> 00:18:55,413
WHAT KIND OF HOUSE
WE'RE GONNA BUILD.
456
00:18:55,413 --> 00:18:56,931
WE COULD START THINKING
ABOUT WHAT KIND OF HOUSES
457
00:18:56,931 --> 00:18:59,448
WE'RE GONNA BUILD,
AND THAT KIND OF THING.
458
00:18:59,448 --> 00:19:02,068
EVERYBODY'S GONNA WANT
THE SAME FLIPPING PROPERTY,
459
00:19:02,068 --> 00:19:03,931
AND IT CHANGES.
460
00:19:03,931 --> 00:19:05,724
EVERYBODY WANTED
TREES BEFORE.
461
00:19:05,724 --> 00:19:07,793
NOW NOBODY WANTS TREES.
462
00:19:07,793 --> 00:19:09,241
I DON'T WANT TO
TALK ABOUT IT ANY MORE.
463
00:19:09,241 --> 00:19:10,586
NOW I'M MAD.
464
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,137
AND WE GOT INTO
A SQUABBLE LAST SPRING
465
00:19:15,137 --> 00:19:18,517
BECAUSE IT TURNED OUT THAT
THERE WAS A BUNCH OF CONFUSION.
466
00:19:21,724 --> 00:19:23,655
HE TOLD ME THAT
THAT WAS WHAT WAS LEFT.
467
00:19:23,655 --> 00:19:27,172
NO, THAT'S NOT AT ALL
THE CONVERSATION, ROBYN.
468
00:19:27,172 --> 00:19:28,965
-ARE YOU MAD AT ME?
-NOT YOU.
469
00:19:28,965 --> 00:19:31,068
-OKAY.
-DON'T BE MAD AT ME.
470
00:19:31,068 --> 00:19:33,758
I GOT IN TROUBLE
FOR BEING THE ONE
471
00:19:33,758 --> 00:19:35,896
THAT MANIPULATED EVERYBODY
INTO PLACES THAT --
472
00:19:35,896 --> 00:19:37,517
I DID NOT DO THAT.
473
00:19:37,517 --> 00:19:39,241
THAT MADE ME LOOK
LIKE AN
474
00:19:39,241 --> 00:19:40,379
AND AN IDIOT.
475
00:19:40,379 --> 00:19:42,413
I DON'T NEED TO GO OUT THERE
AND DO ALL THIS.
476
00:19:42,413 --> 00:19:43,517
IF WE GET THE SEVEN LOTS
477
00:19:43,517 --> 00:19:45,724
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE
THREE RENTALS,
478
00:19:45,724 --> 00:19:49,344
I WOULD LOVE TO BUILD
SEVEN HOMES ALL AT ONCE.
479
00:19:49,344 --> 00:19:51,206
THERE IS MUCH
TO CONSIDER HERE.
480
00:19:51,206 --> 00:19:53,517
WE BOUGHT THOSE
TWO EXTRA PIECES, BASICALLY,
481
00:19:53,517 --> 00:19:55,965
TO BUILD HOMES ON TO RENT
482
00:19:55,965 --> 00:19:57,655
OR TO GIVE TO OUR CHILDREN.
483
00:19:57,655 --> 00:20:00,413
HERE'S KODY LIKE, "I'M GONNA BE
A REAL ESTATE TYCOON."
484
00:20:00,413 --> 00:20:02,206
AND WE'RE LIKE,
"HEY, WE NEED HOUSES FIRST.
485
00:20:02,206 --> 00:20:03,275
HOW ABOUT THAT?"
486
00:20:03,275 --> 00:20:05,275
"LET'S BUILD
A WHOLE SUBDIVISION."
487
00:20:07,965 --> 00:20:13,655
I THINK LET'S JUST
GET STARTED ON ONE, EVEN.
488
00:20:13,655 --> 00:20:15,206
ME TALKING BIG PICTURE --
489
00:20:15,206 --> 00:20:17,482
LIKE, "LET'S DO SEVEN HOMES
AT ONCE" AND ALL THAT --
490
00:20:17,482 --> 00:20:19,275
THAT'S JUST ME STALLING,
491
00:20:19,275 --> 00:20:22,724
BECAUSE I'D REALLY LOVE
TO JUST PUT 'EM ALL OFF
492
00:20:22,724 --> 00:20:25,448
AND JUST ENJOY MY PEACE
FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
493
00:20:25,448 --> 00:20:26,620
I KNOW THOSE GUYS --
494
00:20:26,620 --> 00:20:30,724
THOSE DEVELOPERS --
ARE MAKING A HUGE PROFIT.
495
00:20:30,724 --> 00:20:32,793
RIGHT NOW,
PHENOMENAL PROFIT.
496
00:20:32,793 --> 00:20:34,310
I'M SPECULATING.
497
00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:35,862
ACTUALLY, I'M STALLING.
498
00:20:38,172 --> 00:20:39,310
SO,
WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
499
00:20:39,310 --> 00:20:40,482
WE CAN KEEP
MOVING FORWARD.
500
00:20:40,482 --> 00:20:42,448
I THINK WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD.
501
00:20:42,448 --> 00:20:45,137
I MEAN,
MORE COMPLICATED
502
00:20:45,137 --> 00:20:48,586
THAN JUST, "HEY I DECIDED
WE'RE MOVING FORWARD."
503
00:20:48,586 --> 00:20:49,724
I'M REALLY,
REALLY ENJOYING HERE
504
00:20:49,724 --> 00:20:52,517
THAT JANELLE IS
ON MY SIDE HERE.
505
00:20:52,517 --> 00:20:54,724
BUT IT'S REALLY NOT MAKING
A DIFFERENCE, IS IT?
506
00:20:54,724 --> 00:20:57,241
I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD WITH --
507
00:20:57,241 --> 00:21:00,000
THERE'S STUFF WE CAN DO,
IT SOUNDS LIKE.
508
00:21:01,068 --> 00:21:02,379
MAYBE.
509
00:21:02,379 --> 00:21:04,034
OKAY.
510
00:21:04,034 --> 00:21:05,448
WE ALL KNOW THAT
THE ONLY WAY
511
00:21:05,448 --> 00:21:06,896
THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO
MOVE FORWARD
512
00:21:06,896 --> 00:21:08,413
IS IF KODY STARTS IT.
513
00:21:08,413 --> 00:21:11,517
IT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE
FOR ONE OF US TO LEAD.
514
00:21:11,517 --> 00:21:12,862
NOT GETTING REAL
FIRM COMMITMENTS,
515
00:21:12,862 --> 00:21:13,896
BUT THAT'S OKAY.
516
00:21:14,896 --> 00:21:16,206
JUST MAYBES.
517
00:21:16,206 --> 00:21:17,793
I DON'T HAVE
THE MEANS TO DO IT.
518
00:21:17,793 --> 00:21:18,827
I DON'T KNOW WHY PAYING
519
00:21:18,827 --> 00:21:20,310
A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY
FOR INFORMATION
520
00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:23,344
AND HELPING US START TO
GET OUR PLANNING HATS ON
521
00:21:23,344 --> 00:21:24,827
IS A PROBLEM.
522
00:21:24,827 --> 00:21:26,103
YOU KNOW WHAT, LADIES?
523
00:21:26,103 --> 00:21:27,413
YOU GUYS --
524
00:21:27,413 --> 00:21:29,758
MAYBE WHAT I NEED TO DO
IS JUST TURN IT OVER THEM.
525
00:21:29,758 --> 00:21:31,379
YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS
GO DETERMINE
526
00:21:31,379 --> 00:21:32,655
WHERE YOU WANT TO LIVE.
527
00:21:32,655 --> 00:21:33,965
YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT
ACTUALLY GO BETTER.
528
00:21:33,965 --> 00:21:37,068
MAYBE THE DRAMA PROBLEM
IN OUR LIVES IS ME.
529
00:21:37,068 --> 00:21:39,724
RIGHT NOW,
EVERYBODY'S IN A HOUSE.
530
00:21:39,724 --> 00:21:41,724
WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO
MOVE ON THESE THINGS,
531
00:21:41,724 --> 00:21:45,206
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY
TO MOVE ON THEM.
532
00:21:45,206 --> 00:21:47,137
OKAY.
533
00:21:47,137 --> 00:21:49,310
THAT'S DEPRESSING.
534
00:21:49,310 --> 00:21:50,344
SORRY.
535
00:21:50,344 --> 00:21:51,310
THAT'S DEPRESSING,
KIND OF.
536
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:52,482
LIKE...
537
00:21:52,482 --> 00:21:54,482
I AM A LITTLE FRUSTRATED
WITH KODY RIGHT NOW.
538
00:21:54,482 --> 00:21:56,517
COME ON.
WE HAVE TO PLUG ON.
539
00:21:56,517 --> 00:21:59,000
WE HAVE TO KEEP CHUGGING ON
AND MAKING THIS HAPPEN.
540
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,068
I JUST THINK,
SUBCONSCIOUSLY,
541
00:22:00,068 --> 00:22:01,655
HE'S NOT
INTERESTED ANYMORE,
542
00:22:01,655 --> 00:22:05,517
AND HE'S JUST FINE WITH US
LIVING SEPARATELY, I GUESS.
543
00:22:05,517 --> 00:22:07,034
I THINK THAT WE JUST --
544
00:22:07,034 --> 00:22:08,344
I MEAN, IT'S
SEPTEMBER NOW.
545
00:22:08,344 --> 00:22:09,655
WE JUST LET IT GO
546
00:22:09,655 --> 00:22:12,034
AND NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT
THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS.
547
00:22:12,034 --> 00:22:15,758
I KNOW THAT BECAUSE
WE'RE NOT ON THE PROPERTY,
548
00:22:15,758 --> 00:22:19,068
IT'S CREATING SOME ISSUES
IN OUR FAMILY STRUCTURE,
549
00:22:19,068 --> 00:22:22,551
OUR FAMILY CULTURE,
SOME OF OUR RELATIONSHIPS,
550
00:22:22,551 --> 00:22:25,344
AND THAT'S MAKING ME
REALLY NERVOUS, TOO.
551
00:22:32,068 --> 00:22:34,103
YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND,
I JUST WENT THROUGH
552
00:22:34,103 --> 00:22:37,206
ONE OF THE WORST FIGHTS
I'VE EVER HAD WITH A WOMAN,
553
00:22:37,206 --> 00:22:40,034
AND THAT'S GETTING
INTO THAT HOUSE
554
00:22:40,034 --> 00:22:42,931
THAT ROBYN JUST THOUGHT
WE SHOULDN'T BE BUYING.
555
00:22:42,931 --> 00:22:44,827
THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN HARD,
556
00:22:44,827 --> 00:22:48,379
AND I'M STACKING THAT
ONTO THE BLOW-UP
557
00:22:48,379 --> 00:22:50,724
OUT AT COYOTE PASS.
558
00:22:52,206 --> 00:22:54,068
I'M SO DISCOURAGED
559
00:22:54,068 --> 00:22:56,724
ABOUT WHERE I FEEL LIKE
WE'RE AT WITH THE PROPERTY
560
00:22:56,724 --> 00:22:59,965
THAT THERE'S DAYS I WISH
I COULD JUST SELL IT.
561
00:23:02,724 --> 00:23:04,758
IF I FEEL LIKE HE'S
NOT STAYING AT MY HOUSE ENOUGH,
562
00:23:04,758 --> 00:23:07,068
IT CAUSES ALL KINDS
OF PROBLEMS.
563
00:23:07,068 --> 00:23:10,448
ROBYN SAYS WE HAD A DEFINITE
MISUNDERSTANDING,
564
00:23:10,448 --> 00:23:12,758
SO MAYBE IT'S A GOOD IDEA
IF I STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.
565
00:23:12,758 --> 00:23:15,448
I JUST KNOW THAT FAMILIES GO
AS LEADERSHIP DOES,
566
00:23:15,448 --> 00:23:17,206
AND I JUST, FRANKLY,
DON'T GIVE A ANYMORE.
567
00:23:28,172 --> 00:23:30,137
ROBYN HAS ASKED ME
568
00:23:30,137 --> 00:23:32,448
TO COME OUT
TO THE PROPERTY.
569
00:23:32,448 --> 00:23:34,689
IT SOUNDS LIKE KODY
AND ROBYN AND I
570
00:23:34,689 --> 00:23:37,275
ARE GONNA BE HAVING
A LITTLE CHAT.
571
00:23:37,275 --> 00:23:39,793
NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT
SURE WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
572
00:23:39,793 --> 00:23:41,965
HI, THANKS FOR COMING
OUT HERE WITH ME.
573
00:23:41,965 --> 00:23:43,517
HEY, HOW'S IT GOING?
574
00:23:43,517 --> 00:23:44,689
GOOD.
575
00:23:44,689 --> 00:23:47,758
LAST YEAR, THE FIVE OF US
HAD COME OUT.
576
00:23:47,758 --> 00:23:50,413
THERE WAS DEFINITELY
SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
577
00:23:50,413 --> 00:23:54,413
I WAS TOLD BEFORE
YOU GET WHAT'S LEFT.
578
00:23:54,413 --> 00:23:57,206
NOW I'M JUST GONNA TAKE
THAT SIDE OVER THERE.
579
00:23:57,206 --> 00:23:58,206
'CAUSE THAT'S
WHAT'S LEFT?
580
00:23:58,206 --> 00:23:59,206
'CAUSE THAT'S
WHAT'S LEFT.
581
00:23:59,206 --> 00:24:00,862
I DIDN'T SAY IT
LIKE THAT.
582
00:24:00,862 --> 00:24:02,000
YOU DID.
583
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,137
I WISH THAT I HAD BEEN
584
00:24:03,137 --> 00:24:05,379
IN A BETTER PLACE
EMOTIONALLY THAT DAY
585
00:24:05,379 --> 00:24:08,103
SO I COULD HAVE, LIKE,
HELPED KIND OF DIFFUSE IT
586
00:24:08,103 --> 00:24:09,241
AND UNWIND IT.
587
00:24:09,241 --> 00:24:11,482
IT WAS JUST KIND OF
A BIG MESS.
588
00:24:11,482 --> 00:24:15,241
I HAD BENT OVER
BACKWARDS FOR MERI
589
00:24:15,241 --> 00:24:19,034
TO KEEP MERI HAPPY
ABOUT OUR LOCATION,
590
00:24:19,034 --> 00:24:22,137
ABOUT HER LOCATION,
AND ABOUT GETTING THERE.
591
00:24:22,137 --> 00:24:24,137
WELL, THIS IS FABULOUS.
I'LL SEE YOU GUYS.
592
00:24:24,137 --> 00:24:26,689
I NEED TO GO
FIND A RENTAL, TOO.
593
00:24:28,068 --> 00:24:29,413
I REALLY JUST
DIDN'T FEEL LIKE
594
00:24:29,413 --> 00:24:30,965
ROBYN AND I WERE
HAVING A FIGHT.
595
00:24:30,965 --> 00:24:34,000
HONESTLY, I WAS MAD AT KODY
THAT DAY.
596
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,482
HEY, MERI.
-HI.
597
00:24:36,655 --> 00:24:40,586
I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD
BE A GOOD IDEA
598
00:24:40,586 --> 00:24:44,344
FOR US TO COME OUT HERE
AND HAVE A CONVERSATION
599
00:24:44,344 --> 00:24:46,103
AND, LIKE,
DO IT TOGETHER,
600
00:24:46,103 --> 00:24:50,517
AND, LIKE, SEE WHAT
WE COULD GET UNRAVELED
601
00:24:50,517 --> 00:24:52,103
WITH THE CONVERSATION
THAT HAD.
602
00:24:52,103 --> 00:24:55,448
ROBYN SAYS WE HAD A
DEFINITE MISUNDERSTANDING,
603
00:24:55,448 --> 00:24:58,896
SO MAYBE IT'S A GOOD IDEA
IF I STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.
604
00:24:58,896 --> 00:25:00,689
BEING HERE
WITH MERI AND KODY
605
00:25:00,689 --> 00:25:03,034
AND SORT OF
TALKING WITH THEM
606
00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:05,344
KIND OF ABOUT
RELATIONSHIP STUFF --
607
00:25:05,344 --> 00:25:06,310
EVEN THEIR RELATIONSHIP --
608
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:08,241
IS SOMETHING
I'VE DONE BEFORE.
609
00:25:08,241 --> 00:25:10,758
ROBYN IS ACTUALLY
THE FAMILY PEACEMAKER,
610
00:25:10,758 --> 00:25:12,931
AND THERE'S A TENDENCY
FOR THE WIVES --
611
00:25:12,931 --> 00:25:14,517
IF THEY'VE GOT
A COMPLAINT ABOUT ME --
612
00:25:14,517 --> 00:25:16,206
TO GO DIRECTLY TO ROBYN.
613
00:25:16,206 --> 00:25:17,965
IN MY MIND,
AND I KNOW IN MERI'S MIND,
614
00:25:17,965 --> 00:25:19,413
THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T
COME OUT HERE --
615
00:25:19,413 --> 00:25:21,379
THE FIVE OF US TOGETHER --
616
00:25:21,379 --> 00:25:24,655
AND COMMUNICATE WAS,
I FEEL LIKE,
617
00:25:24,655 --> 00:25:26,206
REALLY STRESSFUL
AND HARD
618
00:25:26,206 --> 00:25:28,689
AND A MAJOR BREAK
IN OUR CULTURE
619
00:25:28,689 --> 00:25:29,931
AND THE WAY WE DO THINGS,
620
00:25:29,931 --> 00:25:32,206
AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW
WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
621
00:25:32,206 --> 00:25:34,965
IT'S KIND OF BECAUSE WE'VE GOT
A BREAK IN OUR CULTURE.
622
00:25:39,689 --> 00:25:42,965
I BELIEVE THAT
SORT OF AS --
623
00:25:42,965 --> 00:25:44,620
THE GROUP OF US,
THE FIVE OF US,
624
00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:47,379
WE HAVE TROUBLE
COMMUNICATING.
625
00:25:47,379 --> 00:25:50,931
WE'RE NOT GATHERING
THE SAME WAY WE USED TO.
626
00:25:50,931 --> 00:25:53,275
I DON'T SEE
MY SISTER-WIVES VERY OFTEN.
627
00:25:53,275 --> 00:25:54,896
WE DO THINGS SEPARATE NOW.
628
00:25:54,896 --> 00:25:57,482
WE REALLY ARE
LIVING SEPARATE.
629
00:25:57,482 --> 00:25:59,758
IT'S PROBABLY ONLY
A COUPLE TIMES A MONTH
630
00:25:59,758 --> 00:26:01,689
THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY
PHYSICALLY TOGETHER.
631
00:26:03,206 --> 00:26:04,931
THERE'S TIMES WHEN
I SIT THERE AND I GO,
632
00:26:04,931 --> 00:26:07,517
"I HAVE NOT SEEN KODY
FOR A LONG TIME."
633
00:26:07,517 --> 00:26:09,965
IT'S BEEN WAY TOO LONG,
AND I FEEL LIKE
634
00:26:09,965 --> 00:26:14,724
MAYBE HE'S SPENDING
EXTRA TIME SOMEWHERE ELSE.
635
00:26:14,724 --> 00:26:17,448
IF I FEEL LIKE HE'S NOT
STAYING AT MY HOUSE ENOUGH --
636
00:26:17,448 --> 00:26:20,931
IF I BRING IT UP TO HIM,
IT CAUSES ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS.
637
00:26:20,931 --> 00:26:24,965
SO I TRY NOT TO THINK ABOUT IT
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
638
00:26:24,965 --> 00:26:26,965
WE'RE NOT HAVING
FAMILY MEETINGS,
639
00:26:26,965 --> 00:26:29,275
SO WE DON'T SIT DOWN
AND TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS.
640
00:26:29,275 --> 00:26:31,000
AND SO, I COME OUT HERE
WITH A WIFE WHO SAYS,
641
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,517
"HEY, I WANT TO
SEE THE PROPERTY."
642
00:26:32,517 --> 00:26:34,655
AND WE TALK ABOUT
WHERE HOUSES WOULD GO.
643
00:26:34,655 --> 00:26:35,793
I EVEN DID THAT
WITH MERI.
644
00:26:35,793 --> 00:26:38,275
BEING SO FAR AWAY
FROM MY WHOLE FAMILY --
645
00:26:38,275 --> 00:26:39,275
FROM THE REST
OF THE FAMILY --
646
00:26:39,275 --> 00:26:41,965
ACTUALLY FEELS STRANGE.
647
00:26:41,965 --> 00:26:44,137
TO PUT IT
NICELY AS POSSIBLE,
648
00:26:44,137 --> 00:26:47,275
IT'S LESS COMPLICATED
TO LIVE SEPARATE,
649
00:26:47,275 --> 00:26:49,241
AND I DON'T FEEL GUILTY THAT
WE'RE DOING THINGS
650
00:26:49,241 --> 00:26:51,206
ALL THE TIME
WITHOUT EVERYBODY.
651
00:26:52,931 --> 00:26:54,896
WE DON'T FEEL LIKE
WE ARE A FAMILY.
652
00:26:54,896 --> 00:26:57,655
WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE
FUNCTIONING AS A FAMILY.
653
00:26:57,655 --> 00:27:00,413
SO THERE'S THIS
UNSETTLING SENSE
654
00:27:00,413 --> 00:27:03,724
THAT THEY'RE --
NOT EVERYTHING'S RIGHT.
655
00:27:03,724 --> 00:27:08,275
THE PROBLEM HERE
WITH THE FIVE OF US...
656
00:27:08,275 --> 00:27:11,344
IS THE FIVE OF US.
657
00:27:12,379 --> 00:27:14,689
WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT
658
00:27:14,689 --> 00:27:17,000
HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE
THE FIVE OF US.
659
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000
BUT RIGHT NOW,
IT'S JUST --
660
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,448
IT'S VERY DISCOURAGING.
661
00:27:23,862 --> 00:27:25,862
SO, YES, WE HAD
A MISUNDERSTANDING,
662
00:27:25,862 --> 00:27:27,896
AND YES,
IT WAS MY FAULT.
663
00:27:27,896 --> 00:27:31,103
I'M TIRED OF TRYING TO
ORGANIZE THIS PROPERTY.
664
00:27:31,103 --> 00:27:33,793
I JUST KNOW THAT FAMILIES
GO AS LEADERSHIP DOES,
665
00:27:33,793 --> 00:27:36,241
AND I JUST, FRANKLY,
DON'T GIVE A ANYMORE.
666
00:27:36,241 --> 00:27:37,655
HERE, LET'S GO
OVER THERE,
667
00:27:37,655 --> 00:27:39,344
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE
WE NEED TO KIND OF SEE
668
00:27:39,344 --> 00:27:41,275
WHAT'S GOING ON
A LITTLE BIT.
669
00:27:41,275 --> 00:27:44,034
HONESTLY, I FEEL LIKE I'M DOING
A DANCE CONSTANTLY.
670
00:27:44,034 --> 00:27:46,448
I HAVE TO DANCE MORE
FOR SOME PEOPLE THAN OTHERS.
671
00:27:46,448 --> 00:27:49,551
SO, YOU SEE THOSE PIPES
COMING OUT RIGHT THERE?
672
00:27:49,551 --> 00:27:54,379
I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TOTALLY LOST
ANY DESIRE TO GATHER MY FAMILY.
673
00:27:54,379 --> 00:27:58,206
IT'S SO MUCH EASIER FOR ME
TO DEAL WITH ONE WIFE
674
00:27:58,206 --> 00:28:00,551
AND HER CHILDREN
AT A TIME.
675
00:28:00,551 --> 00:28:04,413
MY BEST GUESS IS THAT
THAT IS OUR PROPERTY EDGE.
676
00:28:04,413 --> 00:28:06,793
WHATEVER IT IS --
WHATEVER OUR DYSFUNCTION IS --
677
00:28:06,793 --> 00:28:08,344
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS,
678
00:28:08,344 --> 00:28:10,793
BUT IT MAKES ME
VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
679
00:28:10,793 --> 00:28:13,724
SO I DON'T EVEN REALLY CARE
TO GET TOGETHER ANYMORE.
680
00:28:13,724 --> 00:28:16,172
SO WE HAVE CLEAR UP
INTO HERE.
681
00:28:16,172 --> 00:28:18,517
BUT IT'S AT
THIS ANGLE, MERI.
682
00:28:18,517 --> 00:28:20,068
OH.
IT'S SLIGHTLY --
683
00:28:20,068 --> 00:28:23,413
SO, LET'S GO UP HERE
JUST ANOTHER TEN FEET.
684
00:28:23,413 --> 00:28:24,620
I HAVE NO IDEA
685
00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:26,482
WHEN WE'RE GONNA BE
OUT IN THIS PROPERTY.
686
00:28:26,482 --> 00:28:28,965
I TRY REALLY HARD NOT TO THINK
ABOUT THAT PART OF IT.
687
00:28:28,965 --> 00:28:31,275
IT'S SO --
SORT OF DEPRESSING.
688
00:28:31,275 --> 00:28:34,413
I THINK, WHERE
THE LOGS ARE THERE,
689
00:28:34,413 --> 00:28:36,482
IS THE BEST PLACE
FOR A HOUSE,
690
00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:38,275
BUT, UM...
691
00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:40,724
NOBODY WANTS TO
LIVE IN THE TREES,
692
00:28:40,724 --> 00:28:42,655
SO, YOU KNOW.
693
00:28:42,655 --> 00:28:44,448
THE WAY WE'RE LIVING APART
HERE IN FLAGSTAFF
694
00:28:44,448 --> 00:28:47,344
ISN'T MY PERSONAL IDEAL
FOR PLURAL MARRIAGE.
695
00:28:47,344 --> 00:28:49,896
WITH THIS ONE FAMILY,
BIG PICTURE --
696
00:28:49,896 --> 00:28:51,965
FOR YEARS,
THEY SUPPORTED IT.
697
00:28:51,965 --> 00:28:54,586
DOESN'T FEEL LIKE
THEY'RE REALLY INTO IT NOW.
698
00:28:54,586 --> 00:28:56,896
ALL RIGHT, YOU GUYS.
699
00:28:56,896 --> 00:29:01,000
I'D LIKE TO WELCOME Y'ALL BACK
TO WHERE IT ALL BEGAN.
700
00:29:03,862 --> 00:29:05,724
WE'VE COME HERE
TO FIND FORGIVENESS.
701
00:29:05,724 --> 00:29:07,724
LET'S ALL KISS
AND MAKE UP RIGHT HERE.
702
00:29:07,724 --> 00:29:09,206
NOT ALL TOGETHER,
PLEASE, ROB.
703
00:29:09,206 --> 00:29:11,482
-THAT WOULD BE WEIRD.
-IS THAT TOO WEIRD?
704
00:29:11,482 --> 00:29:13,517
I LOVE MERI --
705
00:29:13,517 --> 00:29:15,517
NOT SEXUALLY,
BUT I LOVE MERI,
706
00:29:15,517 --> 00:29:19,034
AND I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM
GIVING HER A KISS ON THE CHEEK.
707
00:29:19,034 --> 00:29:21,482
FOR ME, IT'S BECAUSE
I LOVE HER,
708
00:29:21,482 --> 00:29:23,310
BECAUSE SHE'S
MY SISTER-WIFE,
709
00:29:23,310 --> 00:29:24,724
BECAUSE SHE'S MY FRIEND.
710
00:29:30,241 --> 00:29:32,586
KODY AND MERI
DON'T NEED MORE
711
00:29:32,586 --> 00:29:34,448
KIND OF, LIKE,
MISUNDERSTANDINGS
712
00:29:34,448 --> 00:29:37,241
OR EVEN ISSUES
IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP.
713
00:29:37,241 --> 00:29:39,758
THEY'RE ALREADY
STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW.
714
00:29:41,137 --> 00:29:44,482
WE ENDED UP
GOING BACK TO LAS VEGAS
715
00:29:44,482 --> 00:29:46,275
TO SEE OUR THERAPIST, NANCY,
716
00:29:46,275 --> 00:29:49,344
AND JUST KIND OF, LIKE, WORK
THROUGH OUR RELATIONSHIP.
717
00:29:52,275 --> 00:29:54,931
WHEN WE WERE AT NANCY'S,
I KIND OF LIT IT OFF.
718
00:29:54,931 --> 00:29:59,379
WE ARE FAMILY, BUT WE'RE
NOT ACTING MARRIED.
719
00:29:59,379 --> 00:30:01,551
MY RELATIONSHIP WITH MERI
IS, AT BEST,
720
00:30:01,551 --> 00:30:05,517
JUST DISTANT AND AMICABLE.
721
00:30:05,517 --> 00:30:08,793
LIKE THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN HE AND I IS GONE.
722
00:30:08,793 --> 00:30:10,724
IT'S DEAD.
IT'S OVER.
723
00:30:10,724 --> 00:30:13,137
YOU KNOW,
I COULD BUCK UP,
724
00:30:13,137 --> 00:30:15,137
PUT MY BACKPACK ON,
AND GO FOR A RUN --
725
00:30:15,137 --> 00:30:16,137
BE TOUGH ABOUT IT --
726
00:30:16,137 --> 00:30:17,689
BUT I'M NOT
INTERESTED IN IT.
727
00:30:17,689 --> 00:30:19,724
FOR ALL MY MARRIAGE
WITH MERI,
728
00:30:19,724 --> 00:30:23,517
I'VE FELT LIKE
SHE UNLOADS HER EMOTIONS
729
00:30:23,517 --> 00:30:26,379
INTO A BURDEN
THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO CARRY.
730
00:30:26,379 --> 00:30:27,965
I'M NOT CARRYING
THIS BURDEN
731
00:30:27,965 --> 00:30:30,965
'CAUSE THERE'S NO REASON
THAT I SHOULD.
732
00:30:40,862 --> 00:30:43,689
I HAVEN'T PUT RELATIONSHIP
EFFORT INTO THAT RELATIONSHIP
733
00:30:43,689 --> 00:30:46,931
SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE...
734
00:30:46,931 --> 00:30:49,517
I HAVE THREE
OTHER RELATIONSHIPS
735
00:30:49,517 --> 00:30:52,172
THAT ARE REWARDING
AND WHOLESOME
736
00:30:52,172 --> 00:30:54,586
AND WITH CHILDREN
THAT NEED ME,
737
00:30:54,586 --> 00:30:56,137
NEED TO SEE ME.
738
00:31:02,206 --> 00:31:04,620
I'M REALLY CAREFUL
ABOUT PUSHING KODY
739
00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:07,344
BECAUSE I DON'T
WANT HIM TO FEEL LIKE
740
00:31:07,344 --> 00:31:10,896
I'M BEING DEMANDING OR PUSHY
OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,
741
00:31:10,896 --> 00:31:14,862
SO I FEEL LIKE I'VE MADE IT
KNOWN TO HIM ENOUGH,
742
00:31:14,862 --> 00:31:17,344
YOU KNOW, WHERE I WANT
THE RELATIONSHIP TO GO
743
00:31:17,344 --> 00:31:20,862
AS FAR AS EVEN, LIKE,
JUST MOVING FORWARD
744
00:31:20,862 --> 00:31:22,724
AND JUST STARTING TO
FIGURE THINGS OUT.
745
00:31:22,724 --> 00:31:26,241
IT'S BEST TO, LIKE,
LEAVE THE BALL IN HIS COURT.
746
00:31:28,965 --> 00:31:32,172
NEITHER OF US SEE REAL VALUE
IN THE RELATIONSHIP,
747
00:31:32,172 --> 00:31:35,482
'CAUSE IF MERI AND I REALLY
WANTED TO BE TOGETHER, WE WOULD.
748
00:31:38,724 --> 00:31:41,103
I WAS TRYING TO GIVE YOU
WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR.
749
00:31:41,103 --> 00:31:43,000
I'VE BEEN TRYING
TO GIVE EVERYBODY
750
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,689
WHAT THEY'RE
ASKING FOR, MERI.
751
00:31:44,689 --> 00:31:47,206
HE WAS TRYING TO GIVE ME
WHAT HE THOUGHT THAT I WANTED,
752
00:31:47,206 --> 00:31:49,103
BUT I NEVER SAID
I WANTED IT.
753
00:31:49,103 --> 00:31:50,413
I HONESTLY --
THERE ARE TIMES
754
00:31:50,413 --> 00:31:53,724
I JUST WANT TO SELL THE F--
STINKING PLACE
755
00:31:53,724 --> 00:31:55,275
'CAUSE I'M SICK
OF THIS GAME.
756
00:32:07,172 --> 00:32:08,448
I HONESTLY --
THERE ARE TIMES
757
00:32:08,448 --> 00:32:11,862
I JUST WANT TO SELL THE F--
STINKING PLACE
758
00:32:11,862 --> 00:32:13,103
'CAUSE I'M SICK
OF THIS GAME,
759
00:32:13,103 --> 00:32:16,758
AND I THINK MY WIVES
ARE SORT OF SUSPICIOUS
760
00:32:16,758 --> 00:32:18,068
THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT,
761
00:32:18,068 --> 00:32:20,344
AND IT'S CAUSING THEM
TO START GOING,
762
00:32:20,344 --> 00:32:23,241
"HEY, WAIT A SECOND.
WE CAN STILL GET TOGETHER.
763
00:32:23,241 --> 00:32:25,310
WE CAN STILL BE A FAMILY."
764
00:32:25,310 --> 00:32:26,965
"AND I'M LIKE,
WELL, SURE YOU CAN.
765
00:32:26,965 --> 00:32:28,068
YOU WORK IT OUT.
766
00:32:28,068 --> 00:32:29,310
I'M SICK AND TIRED
767
00:32:29,310 --> 00:32:31,448
OF TRYING TO MAKE THIS WORK
WITH YOU GUYS."
768
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:38,206
I WISH THAT
WE COULD BE BETTER
769
00:32:38,206 --> 00:32:41,275
ABOUT HOW WE COMMUNICATE.
770
00:32:41,275 --> 00:32:43,517
WHAT WENT WRONG WAS,
771
00:32:43,517 --> 00:32:45,034
THERE WASN'T
ENOUGH COMMUNICATION
772
00:32:45,034 --> 00:32:46,551
BETWEEN MERI AND KODY.
773
00:32:46,551 --> 00:32:48,310
THE REASON
I PUT HER HERE
774
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:50,344
WAS BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY
SPOT ON THIS PROPERTY
775
00:32:50,344 --> 00:32:51,448
THAT WE CAN BE...
776
00:32:51,448 --> 00:32:53,517
OKAY, HOLD ON....OUT OF THE TREES.
777
00:32:53,517 --> 00:32:55,862
FROM WHAT I REMEMBER,
778
00:32:55,862 --> 00:32:57,965
YOU JUST SAID
YOU PUT ME HERE.
779
00:32:57,965 --> 00:33:01,689
IS THAT AN ADMISSION
THAT I DIDN'T CHOOSE?
780
00:33:01,689 --> 00:33:03,586
I BASED THIS ON YOU
781
00:33:03,586 --> 00:33:04,758
NOT WANTING TO BE
IN THE TREES.
782
00:33:04,758 --> 00:33:07,517
'CAUSE I NEVER SAID
I WANTED TO BE THERE.
783
00:33:07,517 --> 00:33:09,172
OKAY, BUT
THAT WAS BASED --
784
00:33:09,172 --> 00:33:11,517
I NEED TO SAY THAT.
785
00:33:11,517 --> 00:33:13,241
-OKAY, I UNDERSTAND.
-I NEVER SAID --
786
00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:15,413
IN FACT, I DON'T
WANT THAT PROPERTY.
787
00:33:15,413 --> 00:33:18,448
HE TOLD HER THAT I WANTED
THE OTHER PROPERTY?
788
00:33:18,448 --> 00:33:20,000
ARE YOU ADMITTING, THEN,
789
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,068
THAT I NEVER SAID
I WANTED THAT?
790
00:33:23,068 --> 00:33:24,724
THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY
BY THE ROAD
791
00:33:24,724 --> 00:33:26,379
WAS NEVER A DISCUSSION.
792
00:33:26,379 --> 00:33:28,620
THIS IS WHY
THIS HAPPENED --
793
00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:30,379
BECAUSE EVERY TIME --
OH, MY GOSH.
794
00:33:30,379 --> 00:33:31,620
I JUST
DIDN'T EXPLAIN.
795
00:33:31,620 --> 00:33:32,655
I'M SORRY.
796
00:33:32,655 --> 00:33:33,620
YOU KEPT SAYING,
"BUILD IT" --
797
00:33:33,620 --> 00:33:34,862
RIGHT THERE.
798
00:33:34,862 --> 00:33:36,862
YES, AND I WAS LIKE,
"I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT THAT."
799
00:33:36,862 --> 00:33:39,620
AND SO, MY WHOLE TIME
WHEN I WAS OUT HERE WITH YOU,
800
00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:41,206
I'M, LIKE,
LOOKING AROUND.
801
00:33:41,206 --> 00:33:44,172
MAYBE I COULD HAVE,
LIKE, A DECK
802
00:33:44,172 --> 00:33:46,793
THAT WOULD GO OFF
ONTO THE POND,
803
00:33:46,793 --> 00:33:47,862
OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT --
804
00:33:47,862 --> 00:33:49,724
AND DO IT RIGHT THERE
IN THAT OPEN SPOT,
805
00:33:49,724 --> 00:33:51,241
KIND OF IN THAT CORNER.
806
00:33:51,241 --> 00:33:52,586
THERE WAS A MAJOR FACTOR
807
00:33:52,586 --> 00:33:55,137
THAT I DON'T WANT TO
ACTUALLY BRING UP HERE
808
00:33:55,137 --> 00:33:58,517
WITH MERI AND ROBYN...
809
00:33:58,517 --> 00:34:00,206
WHERE THERE WAS A CONCERN
810
00:34:00,206 --> 00:34:03,724
ABOUT MERI HAVING A HOUSE
ON THE POND LOT.
811
00:34:06,655 --> 00:34:10,034
MERI DOES KNOW HOW SOME OF
THE MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY FEEL.
812
00:34:10,034 --> 00:34:11,586
THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN
813
00:34:11,586 --> 00:34:13,931
AND WILL ALWAYS BE
A QUESTION --
814
00:34:13,931 --> 00:34:17,655
WHETHER THE FAMILY WILL
HAVE ACCESS TO THE POND
815
00:34:17,655 --> 00:34:20,586
IF MERI HAS THE TITLE
816
00:34:20,586 --> 00:34:22,551
TO THE PROPERTY
WITH THE POND.
817
00:34:22,551 --> 00:34:23,551
DON'T WANNA BE
IN THE TREES.
818
00:34:23,551 --> 00:34:24,620
-HOLD ON.
-NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
819
00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:25,931
WE'VE GOT MORE
PROPERTIES, SO JUST --
820
00:34:25,931 --> 00:34:29,413
I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST
REALIZING SOMETHING, KODY.
821
00:34:29,413 --> 00:34:30,482
WHEN SHE SAID,
822
00:34:30,482 --> 00:34:31,827
"I DON'T WANT TO BE
IN THE TREES,"
823
00:34:31,827 --> 00:34:35,206
IS THAT WHY YOU IMMEDIATELY
PUT HER SOMEWHERE ELSE?
824
00:34:35,206 --> 00:34:36,931
I JUST PUT HER WHERE WE
WOULDN'T BE IN THE TREES.
825
00:34:36,931 --> 00:34:38,896
I KNOW,
BECAUSE YOU KNEW --
826
00:34:38,896 --> 00:34:42,310
YOU KNEW THAT
THE ONLY PLACE TO BUILD
827
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:43,620
WAS IN THE TREES
ON THIS LOT.
828
00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:46,068
SO, AUTOMATICALLY,
YOU PUT HER SOMEWHERE ELSE
829
00:34:46,068 --> 00:34:47,068
BECAUSE OF THAT?
830
00:34:47,068 --> 00:34:48,068
YEAH.
831
00:34:51,344 --> 00:34:52,517
BUT SHE DIDN'T
KNOW THAT.
832
00:34:52,517 --> 00:34:53,793
'CAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT TO
BE IN THE TREES.
833
00:34:53,793 --> 00:34:56,551
SO, WHEN SHE SAID, "I DON'T WANT
TO BE IN THE TREES,"
834
00:34:56,551 --> 00:34:58,344
SHE WAS THINKING,
"WHY CAN'T I BUILD
835
00:34:58,344 --> 00:34:59,758
ON ANOTHER
PIECE OF THIS?"
836
00:34:59,758 --> 00:35:01,172
YEAH, I'M SITTING HERE
837
00:35:01,172 --> 00:35:03,000
TRYING TO GET MY HEAD
WRAPPED AROUND IT.
838
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,068
YOU NEVER CAME BACK TO ME
AND SAID, "WELL, INSTEAD,
839
00:35:06,068 --> 00:35:08,413
I'M THINKING
I'LL PUT YOU UP THERE."
840
00:35:11,413 --> 00:35:14,862
WELL, I DON'T WANT TO BE
IN THE TREES,
841
00:35:14,862 --> 00:35:17,137
BUT I DIDN'T SAY I WANTED TO
BE UP BY THE ROAD.
842
00:35:17,137 --> 00:35:18,965
THAT'S WHAT'S
SO FRUSTRATING TO ME.
843
00:35:18,965 --> 00:35:21,137
I NEVER SAID THAT,
BUT IN HIS MIND, HE'S LIKE,
844
00:35:21,137 --> 00:35:22,482
"WELL, I'D BETTER
MAKE MERI HAPPY
845
00:35:22,482 --> 00:35:23,896
AND PUT HER UP THERE.
846
00:35:23,896 --> 00:35:26,206
I GIVE HER
WHAT SHE WANTS
847
00:35:26,206 --> 00:35:29,724
AND, YOU KNOW,
GIVE ROBYN" --
848
00:35:29,724 --> 00:35:32,034
WHAT WAS IT HE SAID?
"THE TABLE SCRAPS."
849
00:35:32,034 --> 00:35:34,000
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
850
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,172
THIS ISN'T MY FAULT.
851
00:35:38,275 --> 00:35:39,413
I'M SORRY.
852
00:35:39,413 --> 00:35:40,862
I'M NOT TRYING TO
PUSH ANY BUTTONS HERE.
853
00:35:40,862 --> 00:35:42,103
THIS IS A HUGE
MISUNDERSTANDING.
854
00:35:42,103 --> 00:35:44,275
THAT'S NOT WHY
I WAS UPSET!
855
00:35:44,275 --> 00:35:47,862
I'M REALLY WILLING
TO SORT IT OUT.
856
00:35:47,862 --> 00:35:49,448
I'M REALLY WILLING TO
SORT IT OUT.
857
00:35:51,793 --> 00:35:55,034
I'M SITTING HERE
JUST DUMBFOUNDED -- STILL.
858
00:35:58,034 --> 00:36:01,793
I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS
SO HARD TO FIGURE OUT.
859
00:36:01,793 --> 00:36:04,206
I WAS TRYING TO GIVE YOU
WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR.
860
00:36:04,206 --> 00:36:06,034
I'VE BEEN TRYING
TO GIVE EVERYBODY
861
00:36:06,034 --> 00:36:07,689
WHAT THEY'RE
ASKING FOR, MERI.
862
00:36:07,689 --> 00:36:10,137
I GET WHAT HE WAS DOING.
863
00:36:10,137 --> 00:36:13,862
HE WAS TRYING TO GIVE ME WHAT
HE THOUGHT THAT I WANTED...
864
00:36:13,862 --> 00:36:15,586
BUT I NEVER SAID
I WANTED IT.
865
00:36:15,586 --> 00:36:16,827
I LIKE THE TREES.
866
00:36:16,827 --> 00:36:18,793
I LOVE THE TREES, AND I
TRIED SAYING THAT TO YOU
867
00:36:18,793 --> 00:36:20,896
WHEN WE GOT --
WHEN WE WENT OVER
868
00:36:20,896 --> 00:36:22,275
TO CHRISTINE'S LATER.
869
00:36:22,275 --> 00:36:25,275
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT
TO BE SO DEEP IN THE TREES
870
00:36:25,275 --> 00:36:27,103
THAT I DON'T HAVE
ANY SUNLIGHT.
871
00:36:28,896 --> 00:36:30,689
SO, AT THIS POINT,
872
00:36:30,689 --> 00:36:32,068
I HAVE NO IDEA --
873
00:36:32,068 --> 00:36:35,793
IF I WERE TO HAVE FIRST CHOICE
OF THIS PROPERTY,
874
00:36:35,793 --> 00:36:38,206
I'M NOT SURE THAT I KNOW
WHERE IT WOULD BE.
875
00:36:38,206 --> 00:36:41,586
I LOVE THE TREES.
876
00:36:41,586 --> 00:36:45,068
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO
HAVE A HOUSE IN THE TREES.
877
00:36:47,241 --> 00:36:49,724
OH, HOLY
878
00:36:49,724 --> 00:36:52,137
OKAY, WELL,
I'M JUST SITTING HERE.
879
00:36:52,137 --> 00:36:54,172
LET'S ALL WAIT
FOR FOR MERI TO DECIDE.
880
00:37:05,551 --> 00:37:07,965
ALL I'M SAYING IS,
I DON'T KNOW.
881
00:37:10,931 --> 00:37:15,068
KODY AND MERI'S RELATIONSHIP
IS REALLY SAD.
882
00:37:15,068 --> 00:37:16,068
THIS IS WEIRD.
883
00:37:16,068 --> 00:37:17,103
NO, IT'S NOT.
884
00:37:17,103 --> 00:37:19,068
KODY SHOULD BE
IN THE CENTER.
885
00:37:19,068 --> 00:37:22,137
ROBYN BEING IN THE MIDDLE
OF MERI AND I
886
00:37:22,137 --> 00:37:25,137
ACTUALLY MAKES MERI AND I
SAFER WITH EACH OTHER.
887
00:37:25,137 --> 00:37:26,655
IT'S FUNCTIONAL.
888
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:35,758
THE REASON WHY I WANT US
TO COME OUT HERE
889
00:37:35,758 --> 00:37:38,172
IS BECAUSE I WANT US
TO DO THIS.
890
00:37:38,172 --> 00:37:39,965
WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE
ANY DECISIONS TODAY.
891
00:37:39,965 --> 00:37:43,275
THIS IS JUST TO GET US
OUT HERE TO TALK.
892
00:37:43,275 --> 00:37:44,551
THAT'S THE ONLY THING
THAT I SEE
893
00:37:44,551 --> 00:37:49,000
AS, LIKE, REALLY,
TRULY PROBLEMATIC --
894
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,206
THAT WE DIDN'T GET TOGETHER,
THE FIVE OF US,
895
00:37:51,206 --> 00:37:53,137
AND TALK ABOUT THIS
AND FIGURE IT OUT.
896
00:37:54,379 --> 00:37:57,068
ROBYN HAS AN ASSUMPTION
ABOUT OUR CULTURE
897
00:37:57,068 --> 00:37:59,379
THAT WE ALL WORK
THESE THINGS OUT.
898
00:37:59,379 --> 00:38:00,965
THAT'S NOT TRUE.
899
00:38:04,241 --> 00:38:08,448
THEY'RE NEGOTIATING WITH
EACH OTHER THROUGH ME.
900
00:38:08,448 --> 00:38:10,310
NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN
IN THIS FAMILY,
901
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:12,965
I TAKE THE BLAME FOR ALMOST
EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON.
902
00:38:17,758 --> 00:38:20,137
WHEN YOU HAVE
A MONOGAMOUS COUPLE,
903
00:38:20,137 --> 00:38:22,000
IT'S -- I --
904
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,827
I VISUALIZE IT AS A COMPLETE
YIN-YANG DECISION.
905
00:38:25,827 --> 00:38:28,689
THE HUSBAND AND WIFE
MAKE DECISIONS TOGETHER.
906
00:38:28,689 --> 00:38:31,655
WELL, IN PLURAL MARRIAGE,
IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
907
00:38:31,655 --> 00:38:34,275
I WAS OUT OF TURN
BECAUSE I WAS ANGRY,
908
00:38:34,275 --> 00:38:37,034
BECAUSE I FELT LIKE
I WAS GIVING --
909
00:38:37,034 --> 00:38:38,689
LIKE I WAS GIVING YOU
WHAT YOU WANTED,
910
00:38:38,689 --> 00:38:39,724
AND THEN
YOU DIDN'T WANT IT.
911
00:38:39,724 --> 00:38:40,896
AND I GAVE YOU
WHAT YOU WANTED,
912
00:38:40,896 --> 00:38:42,586
AND YOU DIDN'T WANT IT.
913
00:38:42,586 --> 00:38:44,655
THAT'S THAT'S HOW
I PERCEIVED IT,
914
00:38:44,655 --> 00:38:47,172
AND I APOLOGIZE.
915
00:38:52,275 --> 00:38:53,827
WHATEVER.
916
00:38:53,827 --> 00:38:55,068
I'M JUST ACQUIESCING HERE.
917
00:38:55,068 --> 00:38:56,241
THIS IS RIDICULOUS,
918
00:38:56,241 --> 00:38:59,862
BECAUSE IT'S REALLY,
REALLY, REALLY SIMPLE.
919
00:38:59,862 --> 00:39:02,137
I JUST WANTED TO
GET US GOOD.
920
00:39:02,137 --> 00:39:04,793
ARE WE ALL GOOD
WITH EACH OTHER?
921
00:39:09,758 --> 00:39:11,000
I'M GOOD.
922
00:39:12,379 --> 00:39:13,896
I'M FINE.
923
00:39:13,896 --> 00:39:16,310
LAST COUPLE OF YEARS --
YEAR AND A HALF, I GUESS --
924
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:18,275
HERE IN FLAGSTAFF --
925
00:39:18,275 --> 00:39:19,793
I DON'T KNOW
WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
926
00:39:19,793 --> 00:39:22,586
THE FAMILY IS JUST
IN A WEIRD PLACE.
927
00:39:22,586 --> 00:39:23,620
ALL RIGHT.
928
00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:25,241
-LET'S GO HOME.
-LET'S GO HOME.
929
00:39:25,241 --> 00:39:26,482
WE FEEL GOOD.
930
00:39:26,482 --> 00:39:28,482
DO WE FEEL BETTER?
931
00:39:28,482 --> 00:39:30,413
I REALLY LIKE
THIS AREA.
932
00:39:30,413 --> 00:39:32,137
YEAH.
933
00:39:32,137 --> 00:39:34,206
IT'S VERY, VERY
PEACEFUL OVER HERE.
934
00:39:34,206 --> 00:39:35,310
YEAH.
935
00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:37,448
HONESTLY, I JUST DON'T
THINK MY WIVES
936
00:39:37,448 --> 00:39:39,896
REALLY WANT TO BE
TOGETHER THAT MUCH,
937
00:39:39,896 --> 00:39:42,793
BECAUSE IF THEY DID,
THEY WOULD.
938
00:39:42,793 --> 00:39:46,241
I THINK THEY ARE
ENJOYING IT...
939
00:39:46,241 --> 00:39:49,172
THIS SORT OF INDEPENDENCE
FROM EACH OTHER.
940
00:39:49,172 --> 00:39:52,241
"DOING MY THING,
LIVING IN MY HOUSE,
941
00:39:52,241 --> 00:39:53,724
HANGING OUT WITH MY KIDS.
942
00:39:53,724 --> 00:39:56,413
OH, AND I GET MY HUSBAND
ONCE IN A WHILE."
943
00:39:56,413 --> 00:39:57,551
HERE,
LET'S HOLD HANDS,
944
00:39:57,551 --> 00:39:59,379
'CAUSE THE LAST TIME
WE WALKED DOWN THIS,
945
00:39:59,379 --> 00:40:00,413
WE WERE UPSET.
946
00:40:00,413 --> 00:40:01,620
WE WERE MAD
AT EACH OTHER.
947
00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:03,827
HERE, YOU HOLD
HER HAND, TOO, KODY,
948
00:40:03,827 --> 00:40:05,482
'CAUSE YOU WERE
UPSET, TOO.
949
00:40:05,482 --> 00:40:07,586
THERE WE GO.
950
00:40:07,586 --> 00:40:10,758
I MEAN, KODY AND MERI'S
RELATIONSHIP IS --
951
00:40:10,758 --> 00:40:13,931
IT'S REALLY SAD
952
00:40:13,931 --> 00:40:16,482
AND HARD TO SEE,
953
00:40:16,482 --> 00:40:19,068
AND I LOVE THEM BOTH.
954
00:40:19,068 --> 00:40:22,000
I'LL DO WHAT I CAN
TO HELP THEM.
955
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,827
THEIR RELATIONSHIP
REALLY DOES HAVE AN EFFECT
956
00:40:24,827 --> 00:40:26,551
ON THE REST OF THE FAMILY.
957
00:40:26,551 --> 00:40:27,586
THIS IS WEIRD.
958
00:40:27,586 --> 00:40:28,655
NO, IT'S NOT.
959
00:40:28,655 --> 00:40:30,586
KODY SHOULD BE
IN THE CENTER.
960
00:40:30,586 --> 00:40:31,896
-NO.
-NO?
961
00:40:31,896 --> 00:40:34,103
NO, WE'RE GOOD.
962
00:40:34,103 --> 00:40:36,793
ROBYN BEING
IN THE MIDDLE OF MERI AND I
963
00:40:36,793 --> 00:40:40,275
ACTUALLY MAKES MERI AND I
SAFER WITH EACH OTHER.
964
00:40:40,275 --> 00:40:43,689
AS WEIRD AS IT MIGHT SEEM,
IT'S FUNCTIONAL.
965
00:40:46,206 --> 00:40:47,965
THIS DOES NOT
BOTHER ME AT ALL --
966
00:40:47,965 --> 00:40:49,482
THAT ROBYN IS IN
THE MIDDLE OF THIS --
967
00:40:49,482 --> 00:40:51,517
BECAUSE ROBYN IS
PART OF THIS.
968
00:40:54,413 --> 00:40:56,896
THE MONOGAMOUS
CULTURE TEACHES
969
00:40:56,896 --> 00:40:59,620
THAT WOMEN ARE SUPPOSED TO
COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER.
970
00:40:59,620 --> 00:41:02,241
IN A POLYGAMOUS CULTURE,
971
00:41:02,241 --> 00:41:05,000
IF YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT,
THE IDEA IS,
972
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,241
IS THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY
SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER.
973
00:41:08,241 --> 00:41:09,517
IF YOU WERE TO
LOOK AT THE WORLD,
974
00:41:09,517 --> 00:41:11,275
AND IF EVERYBODY WAS
LIVING PLURAL MARRIAGE
975
00:41:11,275 --> 00:41:12,862
AND THAT WAS THE CULTURE,
976
00:41:12,862 --> 00:41:14,896
WHAT WOULD WOMEN BE LIKE
WITH EACH OTHER?
977
00:41:16,068 --> 00:41:18,344
WHAT WOULD THEY BE LIKE
IF THAT WAS THE NORM?
978
00:41:20,620 --> 00:41:22,172
YOU GOOD?
YEAH.
979
00:41:24,241 --> 00:41:25,931
ALL RIGHT,
WE'LL SEE YOU LATER.
980
00:41:25,931 --> 00:41:27,931
SOMETHING VERY,
VERY SPECIAL,
981
00:41:27,931 --> 00:41:30,551
WHEN YOU CAN LOOK
AT YOUR SISTER-WIFE
982
00:41:30,551 --> 00:41:33,413
AND KNOW SHE'S GOT YOUR
BEST INTERESTS AT HER HEART
983
00:41:33,413 --> 00:41:36,379
AND SHE'S ROOTING
FOR YOUR RELATIONSHIP.
984
00:41:42,724 --> 00:41:45,206
IT'S GOT TO BE
THE PUREST KIND OF LOVE.
985
00:41:52,965 --> 00:41:55,068
NEXT TIME,
ON "SISTER WIVES"...
986
00:41:55,068 --> 00:41:56,758
WE HAVE COME UP
TO SALT LAKE CITY
987
00:41:56,758 --> 00:41:59,068
TO LOOK AT SOME
WEDDING VENUE OPTIONS
988
00:41:59,068 --> 00:42:00,172
WITH MARIAH AND AUDREY,
989
00:42:00,172 --> 00:42:02,137
YOU GUYS COULD
WALK DOWN DOWN AN AISLE
990
00:42:02,137 --> 00:42:03,655
THAT ISN'T
A STRAIGHT LINE.
991
00:42:03,655 --> 00:42:04,620
THAT'S TRUE.
992
00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:05,896
HEEEEY!
993
00:42:05,896 --> 00:42:07,034
YOU HAVE TO GO
ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
994
00:42:10,448 --> 00:42:12,000
THAT JUST, LIKE --
995
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,379
IT GOT ME IN
THE FEELS, YOU KNOW?
996
00:42:13,379 --> 00:42:15,758
YEAH, WE'RE NOT STRAIGHT.
997
00:42:15,758 --> 00:42:20,862
SO, I THINK THAT WE DON'T HAVE
TO DO ANYTHING TOGETHER.
998
00:42:20,862 --> 00:42:22,655
-WE ACTUALLY DON'T.
-OH, GOSH.
999
00:42:22,655 --> 00:42:24,103
IF I'M IN A ROUGH SPOT
WITH KODY,
1000
00:42:24,103 --> 00:42:26,620
IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT
TO CONTRIBUTE
1001
00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:28,310
TO A SISTER-WIFE
RELATIONSHIP.
1002
00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:30,620
IF YOU KNOW THAT
SHE'S ACTUALLY TRYING
1003
00:42:30,620 --> 00:42:32,827
TO SABOTAGE YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH KODY,
1004
00:42:32,827 --> 00:42:34,137
YOU CAN'T TRUST HER.
1005
00:42:34,137 --> 00:42:36,448
HOW ARE YOU FRIENDS
WITH SOMEONE YOU CAN'T TRUST?