1 00:00:01,266 --> 00:00:02,600 [narrator] Previously on Sister Wives... 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,300 No, we're not engaged. 3 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:06,400 And here we are, looking at wedding venues. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,133 Great place to have a wedding. 5 00:00:09,266 --> 00:00:10,533 I'd marry you here. 6 00:00:11,367 --> 00:00:14,000 [Ysabel] It is moving extremely fast. 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,400 Faster than I think. I would like it. 8 00:00:18,767 --> 00:00:21,166 [Meri] My plan is to renovate the carriage house 9 00:00:21,166 --> 00:00:23,266 and just kind of run my business out of there. 10 00:00:23,266 --> 00:00:25,667 You're not gonna see any of the... anything before the final reveal. 11 00:00:25,667 --> 00:00:27,667 -You understand that, right? -Um... 12 00:00:27,667 --> 00:00:31,467 I've always been very well aware that I'm a control freak, 13 00:00:31,467 --> 00:00:33,967 and I know that that's something that need to... 14 00:00:33,967 --> 00:00:35,700 let go of a little bit. 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,567 [Christine] The property needs to be paid off. 16 00:00:38,567 --> 00:00:41,367 So how serious is anybody really about living on that property? 17 00:00:41,367 --> 00:00:42,900 Is anyone really gonna live there? 18 00:00:42,900 --> 00:00:44,500 He's not talking to me about it. 19 00:00:44,500 --> 00:00:46,500 So, I think I'm gonna have to lawyer up. 20 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,367 [Kody] I am embarrassed that my divorces 21 00:00:50,367 --> 00:00:53,166 have created contemptuous enemies. 22 00:00:53,166 --> 00:00:54,467 -Oh! -[indistinct chatter] 23 00:00:54,467 --> 00:00:55,967 -Aw! -No! 24 00:00:55,967 --> 00:00:56,934 [Kody] For me now, 25 00:00:56,934 --> 00:01:01,200 My prayer was just, like, save me and Robyn. 26 00:01:05,367 --> 00:01:08,300 [chuckles softly] I feel like the idiot that got left behind. 27 00:01:43,867 --> 00:01:45,300 [gasps] Hi! 28 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:46,500 Give me a hug. 29 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:48,700 David's gonna come over for dinner. 30 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:50,166 All my kids are coming over. 31 00:01:50,166 --> 00:01:52,367 Some of my kids are great with David. 32 00:01:52,367 --> 00:01:54,700 Some of my kids are like, "Mmm..." 33 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:56,500 on the fence a bit. 34 00:01:57,367 --> 00:01:59,166 -Sounds delicious. -[Christine] You down? Cool. 35 00:01:59,166 --> 00:02:01,066 And then David will just be here any minute, 36 00:02:01,066 --> 00:02:02,767 and please be nice this time. [chuckling] 37 00:02:02,767 --> 00:02:04,667 -"This time"? -"Be nice." 38 00:02:04,667 --> 00:02:06,600 -[Christine laughing] -[Ysabel] We're always sweet to him. 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,266 Paedon and Gwendlyn have not met David yet. 40 00:02:09,266 --> 00:02:12,000 Uh, but Gwendlyn is not here tonight, Paedon is, 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,800 so he's gonna meet him for the first time. 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,667 He's never had this meal before, so I that'll be fun. 43 00:02:16,667 --> 00:02:18,100 -Yeah? -How's the Brown family meal? 44 00:02:18,100 --> 00:02:20,500 After Christmas, the kids talked about 45 00:02:20,500 --> 00:02:23,100 how they missed all of our traditions. 46 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:25,967 So, I felt like it was important to bring some of them back. 47 00:02:25,967 --> 00:02:27,500 Some of the ones that the other moms did. 48 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:29,867 So there's something that Meri used to do. 49 00:02:29,867 --> 00:02:32,400 But Janelle actually called them haystacks. 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,600 Hawaiian haystacks? 51 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,367 It's just chow mein noodles. 52 00:02:35,367 --> 00:02:38,266 And then it's chicken and cheese and soup, almonds, 53 00:02:38,266 --> 00:02:41,266 and some people put pineapple on it, which is disgusting. 54 00:02:41,266 --> 00:02:43,266 -I think the rice should be done, too. -[doorbell rings] 55 00:02:43,266 --> 00:02:44,867 -Hey! --[Aspyn] Who's here? 56 00:02:44,867 --> 00:02:46,900 -[Mykelti] Hoo-hoo! -Oh, my gosh, behave yourselves! 57 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:48,367 It's a man! 58 00:02:48,367 --> 00:02:49,800 [Christine] Oh, my gosh. 59 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,867 [Paedon] I'm really excited to meet David. 60 00:02:51,867 --> 00:02:54,367 I suspect that immediately, as soon as he walks in, 61 00:02:54,367 --> 00:02:57,567 all four of us are gonna immediately insult him in some way 62 00:02:57,567 --> 00:03:01,500 to just establish, "That's right. This is who we are." 63 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:02,667 [Christine] You know, I'm a little nervous. 64 00:03:02,667 --> 00:03:04,600 I'm a little bit nervous that they're not gonna behave. 65 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,000 [sighs] Look, this is important for them to get along. 66 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,300 I'm just saying. 67 00:03:09,266 --> 00:03:10,667 They're already crazy. 68 00:03:10,667 --> 00:03:12,166 -Hello. -[Christine] Hi, baby. 69 00:03:12,166 --> 00:03:13,500 -How are you? -Not too bad. 70 00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:15,333 Good. Hi. 71 00:03:17,100 --> 00:03:18,867 Our relationship's moving really fast. 72 00:03:18,867 --> 00:03:20,500 We've been together for a couple of months. 73 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:23,367 Mom's boyfriend is here! 74 00:03:23,367 --> 00:03:24,467 [Tony] Ooh! 75 00:03:24,467 --> 00:03:26,300 [Christine] This is it. I'm going to marry David. 76 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:27,233 I just am. 77 00:03:27,467 --> 00:03:29,000 Hello, Richard. 78 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,634 Richard? [chuckles] 79 00:03:31,266 --> 00:03:32,467 Who's Richard? 80 00:03:32,467 --> 00:03:34,467 His name is David. Nobody's Richard. 81 00:03:34,467 --> 00:03:35,333 What show is that from? 82 00:03:35,333 --> 00:03:37,433 I'm... I... I just called you Richard. 83 00:03:38,100 --> 00:03:39,467 God, he's old. 84 00:03:39,467 --> 00:03:41,100 He's... Is he too old for Mom? 85 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:42,700 I think he's too old for Mom. 86 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,400 David, did you like any of the venues you saw in Moab? 87 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Yes. I really loved the Red Cliff Lodge. 88 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,667 It was a really cool place. 89 00:03:50,667 --> 00:03:53,467 Is it big enough for the 700 guests she'll have? 90 00:03:53,467 --> 00:03:55,100 -Seven hundred... -[David] You're talking 700. 91 00:03:55,100 --> 00:03:56,467 -[Mykelti] ...guests? -I don't think there's 700. 92 00:03:56,467 --> 00:03:58,467 -[chuckles] -[Tony] No, I could believe it. 93 00:03:58,467 --> 00:04:00,266 Ours was 400-plus. 94 00:04:00,266 --> 00:04:02,367 -Oh, we had polygamy. That's fair. -They know lots of people. 95 00:04:02,367 --> 00:04:03,467 [chuckles] 96 00:04:03,467 --> 00:04:06,266 -Seven hundred-- -I have that too, so... 97 00:04:06,266 --> 00:04:08,500 Yeah, that's right. There's polygamy on your side. 98 00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:11,767 David actually has two sisters who lived polygamy. 99 00:04:11,767 --> 00:04:15,000 He never did or wanted to or anything like that. 100 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,767 And his sisters don't live it anymore. 101 00:04:16,767 --> 00:04:19,166 They haven't for, like, 30 years. 102 00:04:19,166 --> 00:04:23,166 My oldest sister, she got divorced from her husband, 103 00:04:23,166 --> 00:04:25,400 and my other sister, 104 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,667 kind of got divorced, but wasn't really divorced. 105 00:04:27,667 --> 00:04:30,300 And then her husband passed away. 106 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:33,767 Um, so that's how she got out of polygamy. 107 00:04:33,767 --> 00:04:34,767 [Mykelti] You have a date? 108 00:04:34,767 --> 00:04:35,667 [Aspyn] Yeah. What's the date? 109 00:04:35,667 --> 00:04:38,000 The 22nd of October. 110 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,667 [Tony and Mykelti] October? 111 00:04:39,667 --> 00:04:42,367 That's the day before, um, my husband's birthday. 112 00:04:42,367 --> 00:04:45,367 -Well, we're not celebrating his birthday, okay? -No, don't do it. 113 00:04:45,367 --> 00:04:47,266 -Don't do it. -Hello. [chuckles] 114 00:04:47,266 --> 00:04:50,400 So, we're looking at October in Moab. 115 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,000 To get October in Moab, 116 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,000 you have to get your wedding venue right away 117 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,166 because it fills up. 118 00:04:56,166 --> 00:04:58,567 'Cause October is crazy in Moab. 119 00:04:58,567 --> 00:05:02,467 So, yes. We are getting married. 120 00:05:02,467 --> 00:05:04,367 [chuckling] We have a wedding date. 121 00:05:04,367 --> 00:05:06,000 But we're not engaged yet. 122 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,066 I am surprised by how fast things are going. 123 00:05:09,066 --> 00:05:11,567 My mom did just get out of a... 124 00:05:11,567 --> 00:05:14,367 what, 25-year relationship, 125 00:05:14,367 --> 00:05:17,367 and then starts talking about getting married. 126 00:05:17,367 --> 00:05:20,567 It does seem really, really, really fast. 127 00:05:20,567 --> 00:05:22,600 Does David need to ask your dad for blessing? 128 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,367 -'Cause that's how it works, right? -[Christine] David... 129 00:05:24,367 --> 00:05:26,166 -David did ask my dad. -[David] I did. 130 00:05:26,166 --> 00:05:27,700 -[Aspyn] What? Already? -[Tony] Whoa, wait a second. Already? 131 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:31,100 David asked my dad if he could marry me. 132 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:33,000 It meant the world to me. 133 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 So, I... he got along really well with my dad. 134 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,400 Like, it was a great conversation. 135 00:05:36,767 --> 00:05:37,834 And then David's like, 136 00:05:37,834 --> 00:05:40,800 "So, you know, I'd like to ask for your blessing," 137 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,700 and my dad just reaches over and he goes, "Yes." 138 00:05:43,700 --> 00:05:45,266 -[all laughing] -[Tony chuckling] Whoa... 139 00:05:45,266 --> 00:05:46,333 So fast? 140 00:05:46,333 --> 00:05:47,867 My dad's like... [mimicking male voice] "Yeah, yeah, 141 00:05:47,867 --> 00:05:49,100 of course, you can marry Chris. 142 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:51,367 That's great. You know, you can marry Chris." 143 00:05:51,367 --> 00:05:53,166 And just like that. I mean, just like that. 144 00:05:53,166 --> 00:05:55,467 And then my dad made him a plate of food. 145 00:05:55,467 --> 00:05:56,867 -And brought him a plate of food. -[Aspyn] Wow. 146 00:05:56,867 --> 00:06:00,166 -[Tony] Oh, man. -Grandpa, who takes 10 minutes to rise from a chair... 147 00:06:00,166 --> 00:06:02,467 -[chuckling] I know. -...got up to make him a plate of food? 148 00:06:02,467 --> 00:06:03,133 -[David] Yeah. -I know. 149 00:06:03,133 --> 00:06:05,100 Yeah. Only me, nobody else. 150 00:06:05,100 --> 00:06:08,900 Yeah, it was... It was cool, but it was a really, really good experience for sure. 151 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:10,333 It's getting serious. 152 00:06:10,867 --> 00:06:12,367 [Christine] It's getting serious. 153 00:06:12,367 --> 00:06:14,000 -Getting serious. -[Mykelti] Maybe it's been serous 154 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,567 since you guys went on your first date 155 00:06:15,567 --> 00:06:17,800 and you got mad that he wouldn't kiss you on the date. 156 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,567 -That was the second date. -[David] Second date. 157 00:06:19,567 --> 00:06:20,800 Yeah. Gosh, Mykelti. 158 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,166 Look at... second date we went to see The Little Mermaid. 159 00:06:24,166 --> 00:06:26,100 There is a song, "Kiss the Girl." 160 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:29,767 It's all about... all these little animals 161 00:06:29,767 --> 00:06:31,266 swimming and singing, 162 00:06:31,266 --> 00:06:33,867 trying to convince him to kiss her. 163 00:06:33,867 --> 00:06:36,166 It's the perfect opportunity to kiss a girl, okay? 164 00:06:36,166 --> 00:06:37,300 It just is. 165 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:38,567 And he didn't. 166 00:06:38,567 --> 00:06:40,000 I'm not that type of guy. 167 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,767 I'm gonna be a gentleman, and I'm gonna wait. 168 00:06:42,767 --> 00:06:44,800 And she just has to wait, too, 169 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,667 whether she likes it or not. 170 00:06:46,667 --> 00:06:47,867 I am going to put it all out there. 171 00:06:47,867 --> 00:06:49,567 I was married to this... to a guy 172 00:06:49,567 --> 00:06:52,300 for, like, 20-odd years 173 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:53,767 with so much uncertainty. 174 00:06:53,767 --> 00:06:57,100 And I am not entering a relationship with uncertainty. 175 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:58,767 The third date, he made up for it. And it's fine, though. 176 00:06:58,767 --> 00:07:00,266 Wait, you kissed on the second date? 177 00:07:00,266 --> 00:07:02,000 Third date. We kissed on the third date. 178 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,300 Oh, you kissed on... Wait, 179 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:05,000 it's three dates, and then sex. 180 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 That's the rule. 181 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 -Tony, thanks for that. -[Tony] I'm just saying. 182 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,800 -Really appreciate that. -[Tony] That's the rules. 183 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,367 I think that my siblings and I, we're all very much humorous with each other. 184 00:07:13,367 --> 00:07:17,600 We're all quick witted. For somebody to, like, click with us really well, 185 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,800 they have to give and take with the sarcasm, 186 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,567 with the barbs, back and forth, 187 00:07:22,567 --> 00:07:25,667 and David picked that up, day one. 188 00:07:25,667 --> 00:07:27,700 Do you guys fart in front of each other yet? 189 00:07:27,900 --> 00:07:29,066 Uh... 190 00:07:29,066 --> 00:07:30,567 -I don't think so. -No, not yet. 191 00:07:30,567 --> 00:07:32,266 But I could-- that easily could be done. 192 00:07:32,266 --> 00:07:34,000 -You guys haven't farted in front of each other yet? -Okay. Do you... 193 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,166 Do you talk to him while he's pooping on the toilet? 194 00:07:36,166 --> 00:07:37,600 -[Christine] God, no. -Why not? 195 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,367 -[Christine] Why would I do that? -I don't do that. 196 00:07:39,367 --> 00:07:40,567 -I think it's weird. -[Christine] No. 197 00:07:40,567 --> 00:07:42,066 I wouldn't do that with my girlfriends 198 00:07:42,066 --> 00:07:43,266 -or my kids or anybody. -Really? 199 00:07:43,266 --> 00:07:44,867 Now, have my texted? Oh, yeah. 200 00:07:44,867 --> 00:07:46,200 [chuckling] 201 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,000 It was very clear to me that Christine's whole goal in leaving me 202 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,100 was to find her soulmate. 203 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:56,200 So, I expect that once she was out of here and in Utah, 204 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,700 she would be dating. 205 00:07:59,667 --> 00:08:03,500 And I have not heard anything about it. 206 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:05,800 I'm actually not interested in it. 207 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,467 I'm just. like, "wish you well." 208 00:08:08,467 --> 00:08:10,567 -[Mykelti] Now, can we start eating? -Go, make your food. 209 00:08:10,567 --> 00:08:12,567 -That's beautiful, Mom. -[Aspyn] So you get it. 210 00:08:12,567 --> 00:08:14,100 Do you layer this stuff? 211 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:15,166 It has to be done just right 212 00:08:15,166 --> 00:08:18,166 because the flavors have to not fight each other. 213 00:08:18,166 --> 00:08:20,500 -They have to blend with each other. -Exactly. 214 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:22,200 -Uh-huh. -[Christine] I love you so much, babe. 215 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,500 Let's blend these flavors. 216 00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:25,133 [Aspyn] No! 217 00:08:25,467 --> 00:08:26,800 [all laughing] 218 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,700 -"Let's blend these flavors"? -[chuckling] 219 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:31,000 Uh, I'm not really used to seeing my mom, 220 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,767 uh, be affectionate with somebody, 221 00:08:33,767 --> 00:08:37,467 and I haven't seen it in a while I feel like, so... 222 00:08:37,467 --> 00:08:39,400 I remember Mom dancing with Dad 223 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,667 in the kitchen, in Vegas. 224 00:08:41,667 --> 00:08:44,467 But, um, it's nobody new. 225 00:08:44,467 --> 00:08:46,233 And so that's what's different to me. 226 00:08:50,166 --> 00:08:52,800 And so when she does it, I'm extremely caught off guard. 227 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,467 I'm just... you know what? I'm just testing them. 228 00:08:55,467 --> 00:08:56,867 They have to get used to it. 229 00:08:56,867 --> 00:08:58,367 It's just what's going to happen. 230 00:08:58,367 --> 00:09:00,300 To be comfortable in front of my kids. 231 00:09:00,300 --> 00:09:01,600 They kiss in front of me. 232 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,367 I'm going to kiss in front of them. 233 00:09:03,367 --> 00:09:04,800 You guys are all good. 234 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,000 Wait, you guys are all good with us getting married then, apparently. 235 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,400 Good? Good? 236 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,467 [indistinct crosstalk] 237 00:09:10,467 --> 00:09:12,567 -Hold on. -Tony, I knew... I knew this was coming. 238 00:09:12,567 --> 00:09:15,100 I think I'm gonna need to get to know him better. 239 00:09:15,100 --> 00:09:16,767 I'm just not ready. 240 00:09:16,767 --> 00:09:18,867 [Mykelti] We have six months after Gwendlyn's wedding, 241 00:09:18,867 --> 00:09:21,200 -it's not-- -[Tony] It's just too close. 242 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,900 Mykelti and Tony tease me all the time 243 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:28,567 because I was, like... put the brakes hard on their relationship. 244 00:09:28,567 --> 00:09:30,400 -[Kody] Mr. Tony... -[Christine] Mr. Tony. 245 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:35,867 ...has, um, asked for Mykelti's hand in marriage. 246 00:09:35,867 --> 00:09:38,500 I would be a little more comfortable with... 247 00:09:39,300 --> 00:09:41,200 December. 248 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,900 It will be a difficult experience for me 249 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:46,700 to have you guys celebrated it... 250 00:09:46,700 --> 00:09:50,667 only two months after doing Madison's wedding. 251 00:09:50,667 --> 00:09:52,600 Okay, that's gonna clobber me. 252 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,200 I remember what it was like being on the other side, 253 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,266 and not understanding, at all, 254 00:09:57,266 --> 00:09:58,467 why you guys had to rush. 255 00:09:58,467 --> 00:09:59,767 Like, "why do you have to rush? 256 00:09:59,767 --> 00:10:01,467 What's the big deal?" And now I'm like, 257 00:10:01,467 --> 00:10:03,467 "We need to rush. This is ridiculous." You know, whatever. 258 00:10:03,467 --> 00:10:05,066 Yes, I do completely support it. 259 00:10:05,066 --> 00:10:07,500 But like, if I didn't, would that matter? 260 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:10,166 -No. -Yeah, I didn't think so. 261 00:10:10,166 --> 00:10:11,900 Paedon's having a hard time. 262 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:13,500 Then Ysabel's having a hard time 263 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:14,767 with how fast we're moving. 264 00:10:14,767 --> 00:10:15,734 She likes David, 265 00:10:15,734 --> 00:10:18,600 but she just thinks it's moving really fast. 266 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,100 When are you meeting Janelle and her boys? 267 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:22,266 -Next weekend. -And some of them-- 268 00:10:22,266 --> 00:10:24,166 -[Aspyn] Really? -Yeah, next weekend. Yeah. 269 00:10:24,166 --> 00:10:26,600 -All of them or-- -Whoever can make it. 270 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,867 Janelle fully... Janelle fully supports this relationship. 271 00:10:28,867 --> 00:10:31,266 I sent her a picture of David and us together, 272 00:10:31,266 --> 00:10:32,233 and I talked with her about it, 273 00:10:32,233 --> 00:10:34,700 and she's gonna meet David next weekend, too. 274 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:35,800 I've never met him... 275 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,400 [chuckles] but I hear really good things about him. 276 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,800 He was a guy whose wife died, 277 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,367 and he raised eight kids on his own. 278 00:10:42,367 --> 00:10:44,767 So, to me, that's like this huge, 279 00:10:44,767 --> 00:10:48,700 shining thing about who he is, right? So... 280 00:10:48,700 --> 00:10:51,367 And he has a relationship with all his kids still. 281 00:10:51,367 --> 00:10:53,867 Anything else we should know about you? 282 00:10:53,867 --> 00:10:55,767 [Mykelti] How many tattoos do you have? 283 00:10:55,767 --> 00:10:58,967 Oh, yeah, tattoos. I was looking for someone bald with tattoos 284 00:10:58,967 --> 00:11:00,700 and driving a motorcycle. 285 00:11:00,700 --> 00:11:03,433 -So we're gonna get tattoos. Yes, it's true. -Whoa. 286 00:11:04,100 --> 00:11:06,000 You have the perfect leather pants... 287 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,867 -for riding. -I know, I know. I have my leather pants. 288 00:11:08,867 --> 00:11:12,567 How cliche and cheesy is that? 289 00:11:12,567 --> 00:11:16,000 Matching tattoos? That's adorable. 290 00:11:17,867 --> 00:11:20,900 It's... might as well get one, and I'm happy that she's getting one 291 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:22,166 with someone she cares about, 292 00:11:22,166 --> 00:11:23,634 but also that's really weird. 293 00:11:24,567 --> 00:11:26,567 Oh, my gosh, she's gonna push me over. 294 00:11:26,567 --> 00:11:28,266 Yeah, I am. 295 00:11:28,266 --> 00:11:30,467 [Kody] I've been sitting here thinking about Christine, 296 00:11:30,467 --> 00:11:32,867 not in the regret place anymore. 297 00:11:32,867 --> 00:11:34,367 I'm sitting back, looking back, 298 00:11:34,367 --> 00:11:35,800 "Wow, we had some fun times." 299 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,367 There were some special times. 300 00:11:37,367 --> 00:11:39,900 I would have loved to have had a breakup where we could have stayed friends, 301 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:42,700 but I think the reason we couldn't was because I just felt like 302 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:44,767 every step of it was a betrayal. 303 00:11:44,767 --> 00:11:47,567 And because of that, I don't know if I'll ever... 304 00:11:47,567 --> 00:11:49,600 get to be in a good place with her. 305 00:11:50,967 --> 00:11:52,800 Listen. You're making it very difficult. 306 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,100 You're fired. 307 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:55,333 -[David] "You're fired"? -Hey, you're fired. 308 00:11:55,333 --> 00:11:59,266 -[Paedon] You cannot fire your daughter. -[David chuckling] 309 00:11:59,266 --> 00:12:00,667 [Paedon] David seems like a really good guy. 310 00:12:00,667 --> 00:12:02,400 I see a future being there, 311 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,467 but also anything could happen. 312 00:12:04,467 --> 00:12:08,100 Yeah, it does still feel like it's moving fast, a little bit too fast. 313 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:10,166 It makes me happy to see my mom happy. 314 00:12:10,166 --> 00:12:11,100 Um... 315 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:13,367 But do I think it's fast? Yes. 316 00:12:13,367 --> 00:12:15,000 I still think it's fast. 317 00:12:19,900 --> 00:12:22,266 It's my 55th birthday. 318 00:12:22,266 --> 00:12:25,567 I've lost a sense of direction for my life. 319 00:12:25,567 --> 00:12:27,467 [Robyn] Kody's been a very angry, 320 00:12:27,467 --> 00:12:29,867 lost person. 321 00:12:29,867 --> 00:12:32,934 I feel like he's struggling right now... 322 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,333 but it's not who he is. 323 00:12:47,066 --> 00:12:49,300 It's my 55th birthday... 324 00:12:50,266 --> 00:12:51,300 today. 325 00:12:51,300 --> 00:12:53,133 And, um... I've had a... 326 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,900 interesting life. 327 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:57,266 I remember five years ago, on my birthday, thinking, 328 00:12:57,266 --> 00:13:00,066 "Okay, I'm halfway through. 329 00:13:00,066 --> 00:13:02,266 Um, what do I wanna do for the rest of my life? 330 00:13:02,266 --> 00:13:04,433 What do I wanna be for the rest of my life?" 331 00:13:05,266 --> 00:13:07,867 Last night, I was up late with Robyn. 332 00:13:07,867 --> 00:13:11,166 We were having a discussion about our values. 333 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:13,700 And the fact that I've struggled with mine... 334 00:13:14,266 --> 00:13:16,200 through the divorce process, 335 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,900 everything that's happened... 336 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:22,100 I've lost a sense of direction for my life. 337 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:24,000 There's a struggle that I have had 338 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,734 because I had this big picture that got... shattered. 339 00:13:28,166 --> 00:13:30,467 But I have a safe, 340 00:13:30,467 --> 00:13:32,100 kind and sweet place 341 00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:34,066 with my wife, Robyn. 342 00:13:34,066 --> 00:13:35,166 And then I have tons of guilt 343 00:13:35,166 --> 00:13:36,967 because I'm not more involved 344 00:13:36,967 --> 00:13:39,233 with everybody else that's out there. 345 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:43,000 Uh, Kody's been a very angry... 346 00:13:43,266 --> 00:13:45,100 upset, um... 347 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,166 uh... [sighs] 348 00:13:48,166 --> 00:13:50,700 a very lost person 349 00:13:50,700 --> 00:13:52,066 in the last few years. 350 00:13:52,066 --> 00:13:55,200 And... I have to recognize it for what it is. 351 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,266 It's just him in a painful place, 352 00:13:57,266 --> 00:13:59,900 and him in place of fear, 353 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:01,700 that I will leave him, too. 354 00:14:01,700 --> 00:14:04,400 What was my purpose ten, fifteen, 355 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,300 twenty years ago, thirty years ago? 356 00:14:07,667 --> 00:14:09,300 It was always... 357 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:11,433 my family, my children. 358 00:14:13,266 --> 00:14:15,767 When I was younger, I was so naive 359 00:14:15,767 --> 00:14:17,467 coming into plural marriage, 360 00:14:17,467 --> 00:14:18,967 I guess, idealistic, 361 00:14:18,967 --> 00:14:20,367 that I think I saw myself, 362 00:14:20,367 --> 00:14:23,100 sort of, surrounded by children 363 00:14:23,100 --> 00:14:25,000 and surrounded by wives. 364 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,533 I literally imagined... 365 00:14:27,467 --> 00:14:28,767 that my five, six oldest 366 00:14:28,767 --> 00:14:30,266 would be living across the street, 367 00:14:30,266 --> 00:14:32,667 in homes with their spouses. 368 00:14:32,667 --> 00:14:34,600 I mean, this is literally what I imagined. 369 00:14:38,066 --> 00:14:39,133 Hmm. 370 00:14:40,467 --> 00:14:43,667 That fantasy all came out of... 371 00:14:43,667 --> 00:14:46,300 the affection I felt for my children. 372 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:48,266 To me, it wasn't a plural-family thing, 373 00:14:48,266 --> 00:14:51,400 it was just enjoying-my-family thing. 374 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,166 I'm hoping that they will not reject this, 375 00:14:54,166 --> 00:14:56,867 as some of them won't even talk to me. 376 00:14:56,867 --> 00:14:59,600 But my new goal will be back to being Dad. 377 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,000 Incidentally, I'm meeting with Janelle tomorrow... 378 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,567 for lunch to talk about 379 00:15:05,567 --> 00:15:07,033 business and property. 380 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:09,500 I hope that's good. 381 00:15:12,467 --> 00:15:14,767 [Robyn] Can you remember who you are? 382 00:15:14,767 --> 00:15:16,800 Remember the guy that I met? 383 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,734 The guy who... I saw 384 00:15:20,567 --> 00:15:22,600 loving his kids. 385 00:15:24,567 --> 00:15:26,266 And, uh, I feel like... 386 00:15:26,266 --> 00:15:28,600 he's struggling with that right now... 387 00:15:29,166 --> 00:15:30,834 because he's so hurt. 388 00:15:31,667 --> 00:15:33,634 But it's not who he is. 389 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:39,300 [Kody] So that will be my new thing. 390 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:42,266 This... today is my 55th birthday, 391 00:15:42,266 --> 00:15:43,600 and I have... 392 00:15:44,100 --> 00:15:45,367 with God, 393 00:15:45,367 --> 00:15:47,066 in covenant form, 394 00:15:47,066 --> 00:15:48,700 reasserted myself... 395 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,166 to, from here on out, 396 00:15:51,166 --> 00:15:53,567 be the loving father and the dad that... 397 00:15:53,567 --> 00:15:56,133 that has always given me purpose in my life. 398 00:15:58,300 --> 00:16:01,266 Onward and upward with the goals in life, 399 00:16:01,266 --> 00:16:03,300 and making my family whole again. 400 00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:04,800 That's my desire. 401 00:16:16,867 --> 00:16:18,700 So, David told me a couple of... 402 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:20,266 well, weeks ago, honestly, he's like, 403 00:16:20,266 --> 00:16:22,266 "I think it's time for us to go jewelry shopping," 404 00:16:22,266 --> 00:16:23,567 and I'm like... 405 00:16:23,567 --> 00:16:25,166 "Okay, let's go jewellery shopping!" 406 00:16:25,166 --> 00:16:27,000 And then he goes, "Well, ring shopping." 407 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,200 And I'm like, "Oh, my gosh." 408 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,367 So, here we are. 409 00:16:30,367 --> 00:16:32,066 And today, we're going ring shopping. 410 00:16:32,066 --> 00:16:33,166 So, we're not engaged. 411 00:16:33,166 --> 00:16:34,400 We're just looking at rings. 412 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,200 -Hi. -Hi. I'm Lisa. 413 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,367 -I'm David. -Thank you so much. 414 00:16:37,367 --> 00:16:38,100 [both] Nice to meet you. 415 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:39,867 -Congratulations. -Thank you. 416 00:16:39,867 --> 00:16:41,367 But I've never gone ring shopping. 417 00:16:41,367 --> 00:16:42,867 Kody just got the ring, 418 00:16:42,867 --> 00:16:44,000 and he brought it home. 419 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,600 I'm not one for surprises. 420 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,066 What I like is time spent doing things. 421 00:16:48,066 --> 00:16:49,367 So, I love the idea, 422 00:16:49,367 --> 00:16:51,266 love the idea of ring shopping. 423 00:16:51,266 --> 00:16:53,066 I talked to you on the phone, and I knew 424 00:16:53,066 --> 00:16:54,467 that you like the marquise-cut diamond, 425 00:16:54,467 --> 00:16:56,667 so I pulled a few marquise cuts... 426 00:16:56,667 --> 00:16:58,266 different sizes. 427 00:16:58,266 --> 00:17:01,367 I have no idea what's popular, trendy, modern. 428 00:17:01,367 --> 00:17:02,266 All I know is what I like. 429 00:17:02,266 --> 00:17:04,567 And it's the diamond shape, specifically, 430 00:17:04,567 --> 00:17:07,767 and then it's just some, uh, different colors of metals. 431 00:17:07,767 --> 00:17:10,367 That's what I'm tending to gravitate more towards. 432 00:17:10,367 --> 00:17:12,400 [Lisa] Yes, so we could make it your own design, 433 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,000 exactly how you want. 434 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,600 We do it on a computerized CAD system now. 435 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,367 So, my first ring with Kody, 436 00:17:18,367 --> 00:17:20,467 like, the engagement ring, was a Claddagh ring, 437 00:17:20,467 --> 00:17:21,767 the Irish wedding ring. 438 00:17:21,767 --> 00:17:24,000 It symbolizes love, loyalty, friendship. 439 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,567 And that was my engagement ring. 440 00:17:25,567 --> 00:17:27,266 They can give you options there. 441 00:17:27,266 --> 00:17:29,266 Well, if you design it, just do two different options... 442 00:17:29,266 --> 00:17:30,867 -Oh. -...so that you can set the look and see. 443 00:17:30,867 --> 00:17:32,000 -Yeah. -[Lisa] Yeah, exactly. 444 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,500 I think if I get remarried, 445 00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:35,700 I seriously would, probably, just do a gold band. 446 00:17:35,700 --> 00:17:37,567 I just always was more simple. 447 00:17:37,567 --> 00:17:39,600 I'll have to give him some guidelines 448 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,900 of what I do and I don't like. 449 00:17:40,900 --> 00:17:42,734 I don't like a marquise. 450 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:45,200 I do like square. 451 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,400 I... This is my favorite. I like the twisty thing... 452 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,066 -like, the different metals and stuff. -[David] Yeah. 453 00:17:50,066 --> 00:17:51,400 [Christine] I really like that. 454 00:17:52,266 --> 00:17:54,367 Yeah, but I have no idea if Christine's dating, 455 00:17:54,367 --> 00:17:56,066 I imagine that she would be, 456 00:17:56,066 --> 00:17:58,867 specifically because that was her goal in leaving. 457 00:17:58,867 --> 00:18:03,266 It was to go find a soulmate. 458 00:18:03,266 --> 00:18:05,567 To be fair, I was asked once before, 459 00:18:05,567 --> 00:18:07,900 "When do you think it's okay for Christine to start dating?" 460 00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:10,300 And I'm like, "the day she left." [chuckles] 461 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:12,367 -Okay. I'm just so excited. -[both chuckle softly] 462 00:18:12,367 --> 00:18:13,867 [both] Mmm. 463 00:18:13,867 --> 00:18:15,400 -So, am I. -Yeah, baby. 464 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,567 Yep. It's gonna be a good day. Great day. Awesome day. 465 00:18:18,567 --> 00:18:20,700 In plural marriage, with the weddings... 466 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 you don't feel celebrated. 467 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,266 I just got married. And that was it. 468 00:18:26,266 --> 00:18:28,467 And I didn't invite a lot of people. 469 00:18:28,467 --> 00:18:31,500 It's just what was accepted and what was done. 470 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:33,767 When you're a plural wife, the focus isn't on you, 471 00:18:33,767 --> 00:18:35,000 and it's not supposed to be on you. 472 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,166 It's supposed to be on the family. 473 00:18:36,166 --> 00:18:38,867 But then when I left Kody, 474 00:18:38,867 --> 00:18:40,600 I really thought about the next relationship 475 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,700 and what it would look like. 476 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:42,700 And I wanted all of it. 477 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:44,000 The bridal shower, 478 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,400 or the wedding shower and... 479 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,100 I just want to do it all. 480 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:48,600 Everybody should get what they want. 481 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,400 For me, it's... 482 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,600 If I ever get married again, 483 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,200 it's gonna be on the top of a mountain somewhere, 484 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,000 and it's gonna be simple. And I just want a gold ring, 485 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,100 and maybe we'll get married in our jeans. 486 00:18:57,100 --> 00:19:00,600 I'm sure there will come a time where I will 487 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,266 you know, think about that a little bit more. 488 00:19:03,266 --> 00:19:04,667 But right now, it's just... 489 00:19:04,667 --> 00:19:07,300 It's kind of strange to think about those things. 490 00:19:07,867 --> 00:19:09,000 Okay, rings for him, too. 491 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,033 We didn't talk about that. 492 00:19:10,033 --> 00:19:13,066 Okay. I... I have all kinds of bands over here. 493 00:19:13,066 --> 00:19:14,500 Um, there's different metals. 494 00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:17,100 Tungsten, titanium, cobalt chrome. 495 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:19,467 That one... Let's see in the middle. 496 00:19:19,467 --> 00:19:20,700 -[Lisa] The black? -[David] But I like... 497 00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:22,000 Yeah, the black one there. 498 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:22,967 That's nice. I like it. 499 00:19:22,967 --> 00:19:24,567 -I like the-- -I like that one right there. 500 00:19:24,567 --> 00:19:25,767 Yeah, that's gorgeous. 501 00:19:25,767 --> 00:19:27,667 I liked the black ring 'cause it was cool. 502 00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:30,266 Like, um... my first ring I had was gold. 503 00:19:30,266 --> 00:19:31,567 And it was all right. 504 00:19:31,567 --> 00:19:33,200 You know, I was married once before. 505 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,667 I just, kind of, just wanted something different. 506 00:19:35,667 --> 00:19:38,867 What about a stripe of the black metal on my ring? 507 00:19:38,867 --> 00:19:40,567 -[Lisa] You could do that. -What about that? 508 00:19:40,567 --> 00:19:41,767 -Oh... -And match and mix them. 509 00:19:41,767 --> 00:19:42,967 -Wow. -Let's do the black. 510 00:19:42,967 --> 00:19:44,066 -Let's do that. -That'll be really cool. 511 00:19:44,066 --> 00:19:44,900 [Christine softly] Yes! 512 00:19:46,867 --> 00:19:47,867 [all laughing] 513 00:19:47,867 --> 00:19:50,467 Yeah, so David and I both picked out our rings. 514 00:19:50,467 --> 00:19:52,667 David has a black ring, 515 00:19:52,667 --> 00:19:56,166 and then my ring has yellow gold, platinum, 516 00:19:56,166 --> 00:19:58,300 and then the marquise, and put them black in there. 517 00:19:58,300 --> 00:20:00,000 It... it's beautiful. 518 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,567 I didn't know I was, kind of, an edgy kind of a person, 519 00:20:03,567 --> 00:20:04,800 and it appears I am. 520 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,300 -Congratulations. -Thank you so much. So good to meet you. 521 00:20:09,467 --> 00:20:11,967 ...and I told you I could marry you tonight? 522 00:20:11,967 --> 00:20:13,166 Yeah, I do. 523 00:20:13,166 --> 00:20:15,500 -Well, I was ready then. -I know. 524 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:17,500 I was single for too long. 525 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:18,600 Yeah. 526 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,166 And I'm very unhappy. 527 00:20:20,166 --> 00:20:21,900 But now I'm very happy. 528 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:23,300 Same. 529 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:28,667 [Janelle] The clock is really ticking on this note, 530 00:20:28,667 --> 00:20:30,000 and we owe this money. 531 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,300 If I have to take action legally, I will. 532 00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:34,066 What? What about us? 533 00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:35,400 What about you living on the property? 534 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,634 What about you and me? 535 00:20:37,300 --> 00:20:39,200 Janelle and I talking... 536 00:20:39,667 --> 00:20:42,600 about reconciliation... 537 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,834 is a bull... [bleep] pipe dream from both of us. 538 00:20:56,300 --> 00:20:58,266 Oh, we have you sitting right here, right? 539 00:20:58,266 --> 00:21:00,367 So the holidays are over with, 540 00:21:00,367 --> 00:21:03,667 and I'm... going to go have lunch with Kody. 541 00:21:03,667 --> 00:21:05,967 I haven't seen him in person for a long time. 542 00:21:05,967 --> 00:21:08,367 The clock is really ticking on this note, 543 00:21:08,367 --> 00:21:10,000 and we owe this money. 544 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,867 Because of the breakdown in the family, 545 00:21:11,867 --> 00:21:13,467 there is no communication, 546 00:21:13,467 --> 00:21:14,700 there is no cooperation. 547 00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:16,066 There's nothing. 548 00:21:16,066 --> 00:21:17,667 -Hi. -Hey. How's it going? 549 00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:19,467 -[Janelle] Good. -[chuckling] 550 00:21:19,467 --> 00:21:22,000 So... [chuckles] this is intimate. 551 00:21:23,066 --> 00:21:26,400 At this point, I'm really hoping Kody has something to say 552 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,500 or some sort of concrete plan, 553 00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:32,266 because I don't trust very much. 554 00:21:32,266 --> 00:21:35,266 So, I've already started to make contingency plans. 555 00:21:35,266 --> 00:21:37,767 If I have to take action legally, I will. 556 00:21:37,767 --> 00:21:41,300 I've talked to only one lawyer in town, and there are a lot of them. 557 00:21:42,166 --> 00:21:43,467 So what's... what's the occasion? 558 00:21:43,467 --> 00:21:45,100 What's... what's going on? 559 00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:46,800 Um, well... 560 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,567 I know that you've been... 561 00:21:48,567 --> 00:21:50,667 like, not wanting to necessarily discuss 562 00:21:50,667 --> 00:21:52,467 the property, but we need to. 563 00:21:52,467 --> 00:21:55,100 Let's, kind of, put our heads together 'cause it's coming up. 564 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:56,567 I mean, it's almost February. 565 00:21:56,567 --> 00:21:58,100 We've got months to go. 566 00:21:58,100 --> 00:22:00,867 -Um... -We have really only about three-and-a-half months. 567 00:22:00,867 --> 00:22:02,200 -[Kody] Yeah. -And so if... 568 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,000 If we don't have the cash to pay it off, 569 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,500 we're gonna need to do some different financing. 570 00:22:06,500 --> 00:22:10,200 If we can't make this balloon payment that's coming up, 571 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,367 in, like, three-and-a-half, four months, 572 00:22:12,367 --> 00:22:14,800 technically, they could take the whole property back 573 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,467 'cause we signed a really bad contract. 574 00:22:16,467 --> 00:22:18,266 We were not smart. 575 00:22:18,266 --> 00:22:20,367 [Kody] Christine left, and because of the equity in her home, 576 00:22:20,367 --> 00:22:23,800 she traded that for her equity in Coyote Pass. 577 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,166 So now Coyote Pass has just got four owners. 578 00:22:26,166 --> 00:22:27,867 How are we going to divide, yada yada yada... 579 00:22:27,867 --> 00:22:29,367 We're still going through that process, 580 00:22:29,367 --> 00:22:30,600 and Janelle is like, "Well, we've got to pay it off. 581 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,700 We've got to pay it off. Got to pay it off." 582 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:34,367 Well, I don't feel like doing you any favors, Janelle. 583 00:22:34,367 --> 00:22:36,900 But I know we have to pay it off. 584 00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:38,500 So I have thought about... 585 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:41,233 Are you interested in buying me out? 586 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,500 Well, wait a second. Um... 587 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,900 You jumped to the end. [chuckles] 588 00:22:51,367 --> 00:22:53,100 What? What about us? 589 00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:54,500 What about you living on the property? 590 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:55,900 What about you and me? 591 00:22:57,166 --> 00:22:58,667 I don't... Honey, I don't think 592 00:22:58,667 --> 00:23:01,600 we even exist in the same universe anymore. 593 00:23:03,467 --> 00:23:04,967 Like, I think you're awesome. 594 00:23:04,967 --> 00:23:07,667 And whenever we talk, I still feel that, like... 595 00:23:07,667 --> 00:23:10,066 you've got this little... this little... 596 00:23:10,066 --> 00:23:11,467 hook in me or whatever, 597 00:23:11,467 --> 00:23:13,266 but I've been so happy that I don't... 598 00:23:13,266 --> 00:23:15,467 I don't foresee... 599 00:23:15,467 --> 00:23:18,133 I don't foresee a long-term thing for us. 600 00:23:19,500 --> 00:23:21,800 I don't even know who he is anymore, really. 601 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,367 Like, he hasn't been in my house for two years. 602 00:23:25,367 --> 00:23:29,000 Mmm. We haven't really talked about our relationship. 603 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,600 We've had some conversations. It's not like 604 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,567 -we've not talked. -Yeah, no, but that's not really... 605 00:23:32,567 --> 00:23:34,700 having a conversation about our relationship. 606 00:23:36,767 --> 00:23:38,667 We have had so many conversations 607 00:23:38,667 --> 00:23:41,100 where I've said, "It's done. We're done. We're not compatible," 608 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,367 and he's agreed. And he's like, "Yeah, it's really sad." 609 00:23:43,367 --> 00:23:45,467 I don't I... I... 610 00:23:45,467 --> 00:23:47,000 Like, why are we talking about it then? 611 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,166 I feel like it's almost like a diversion tactic. 612 00:23:49,166 --> 00:23:50,467 Here's the thing, 613 00:23:50,467 --> 00:23:53,000 the things that have gone on, my relationship with Christine, 614 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,400 my relationship with Meri... 615 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,867 Meri and I, fortunately, 616 00:23:55,867 --> 00:23:58,467 are in a place where we'll always be friends. 617 00:23:58,467 --> 00:24:02,000 -I'll never say a bad thing about Meri... again. -[Janelle] Mmm-hmm. 618 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,300 Janelle and I talking... 619 00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:08,400 about reconciliation... 620 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,367 is a bull... [bleep] pipe dream from both of us. 621 00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:14,467 I talk about reconciling with her 622 00:24:14,467 --> 00:24:18,000 because I'd like to be back in graces with my children. 623 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,900 But I know that reconciling with her 624 00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:24,567 would require some kind of power game 625 00:24:24,567 --> 00:24:27,367 where I gave her all the power in the relationship, 626 00:24:27,367 --> 00:24:31,066 which I think is fair because I had it for so many years. 627 00:24:31,066 --> 00:24:32,867 But I'm not interested in that. 628 00:24:32,867 --> 00:24:36,100 I think it's... it's a fake discussion for both of us. 629 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:39,567 And the reason is, is 'cause I think both of us, 630 00:24:39,567 --> 00:24:41,800 I'm telling you my heart's truth, 631 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,000 don't want to be the one that's accountable for breaking up. 632 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,400 He wants a wife that acts differently than I do. [chuckles] 633 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,967 So, uh... it's... It's over. 634 00:24:51,967 --> 00:24:53,600 It's over. I... 635 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,166 I guess I don't need some finality piece to say that., so... 636 00:24:58,166 --> 00:24:59,867 You know, you complain about my independence, 637 00:24:59,867 --> 00:25:02,233 and I will complain about your... 638 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,567 selfishness and self-absorbed... 639 00:25:06,567 --> 00:25:08,166 you're a little bit... 640 00:25:08,166 --> 00:25:10,967 Is that in the past two years, with the divorce? 641 00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:12,900 -No, just-- -[Kody] You feel like I always was? 642 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,400 Maybe you always were. 643 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,567 And there's a big question of the kids. 644 00:25:20,567 --> 00:25:22,400 The kids now talk about the dad they grew up with 645 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,834 versus who you are now. 646 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,800 Well, they've shut me out, 647 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,867 and they're going based upon... 648 00:25:28,867 --> 00:25:29,934 recency bias. 649 00:25:29,934 --> 00:25:32,300 They're going based upon what happened during COVID. 650 00:25:33,367 --> 00:25:36,066 You know, even through the ebbs and flows in our relationship, 651 00:25:36,066 --> 00:25:38,100 he was always a good dad. 652 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:40,266 That always endeared him to me. 653 00:25:40,266 --> 00:25:43,367 But now, I don't know how I would ever reconcile with him, 654 00:25:43,367 --> 00:25:46,700 and not... have him not have a relationship with my kids. No. 655 00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:48,600 I'm gonna always choose my kids. [chuckles softly] 656 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,567 I'm always gonna choose my kids. 657 00:25:50,567 --> 00:25:54,567 I always felt like your life centered so much about Robyn's house. 658 00:25:54,567 --> 00:25:58,600 Well, in the past two years, Robyn's been this place that things were safe. 659 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,433 Kody, even before that, it felt like there was... 660 00:26:02,467 --> 00:26:04,500 I wasn't as important. 661 00:26:06,667 --> 00:26:09,767 I don't know, I feel like any time Kody makes a choice 662 00:26:09,767 --> 00:26:12,266 and they don't like it, I get blamed. 663 00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:14,867 There's this new concept 664 00:26:14,867 --> 00:26:18,667 that I... have Kody just wrapped around my little finger, 665 00:26:18,667 --> 00:26:21,467 and I'm... doing evil spells on him, 666 00:26:21,467 --> 00:26:25,467 and I'm... [laughs] Ridiculous. 667 00:26:25,467 --> 00:26:29,200 If you know Kody Brown, you know he's not to be controlled. 668 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,467 And that's right. Your life is very much centered around the little kids, 669 00:26:32,467 --> 00:26:34,500 -and... and all of that. -Always was. 670 00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:37,066 -Always was, But I-- -When you don't have little kids, 671 00:26:37,066 --> 00:26:39,000 does that mean that, you know, the generation gap 672 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,200 between you and Robyn is too much to... 673 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,867 -to actually bridge? -I... I don't find 674 00:26:42,867 --> 00:26:44,300 I have much in common... 675 00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:45,900 with her. 676 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,734 And I feel like... 677 00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:51,767 um... 678 00:26:51,767 --> 00:26:53,900 I feel like it's a problem that I'm not... 679 00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:56,066 And then Kody, there's these times when... 680 00:26:56,066 --> 00:26:59,200 I can remember, one time we were traveling... I think it was my birthday. 681 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,800 And you started getting mad at me about a conversation 682 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,066 that you and... I had had with her 683 00:27:04,066 --> 00:27:06,233 that I don't know how you knew about... 684 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,567 unless she came to you and told you. 685 00:27:09,567 --> 00:27:12,767 So, I had a conversation with Robyn years ago 686 00:27:12,767 --> 00:27:14,867 when she was getting ready to buy the house. 687 00:27:14,867 --> 00:27:18,767 And I just said to her, "Please, if you cannot... buy something 688 00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:21,567 that's gonna chew through our resources." 689 00:27:21,567 --> 00:27:23,800 And, you know, we all agreed she was amiable with me, 690 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,734 but apparently... 691 00:27:26,367 --> 00:27:29,767 she went and, uh, told on me to Kody, 692 00:27:29,767 --> 00:27:33,300 And Kody's like, "Well, you were so mean to Robyn about blah, blah, blah." 693 00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:36,266 And I'm like, "Uh... Well, I don't know how you know that. 694 00:27:36,266 --> 00:27:38,000 I don't know how you know about that conversation. 695 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000 I didn't ever say anything to you about it," so... 696 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,667 So I didn't tattle on Janelle. 697 00:27:42,667 --> 00:27:45,867 I just told Kody that Janelle and I were in agreement 698 00:27:45,867 --> 00:27:47,800 about not buying my home. 699 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,100 And then it turned into some big, huge thing, 700 00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:51,900 and I got into trouble with Janelle 701 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:53,700 because Kody got after her. 702 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:56,100 It was just that her and I agreed, 703 00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:58,100 and I thought that was important to tell him. 704 00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,600 Don't go down that road. 705 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,567 We're trying to heal things. 706 00:28:01,567 --> 00:28:03,567 More destruction isn't gonna help us here. 707 00:28:03,567 --> 00:28:06,066 Okay, then I... If you... If I can't talk freely, 708 00:28:06,066 --> 00:28:08,800 then let's just leave it as I don't really want to. 709 00:28:10,467 --> 00:28:12,800 This happens every time. 710 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,400 I... the kids talk to him about Robyn 711 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,667 or I talk to him, it's like, 712 00:28:16,667 --> 00:28:17,767 he just doesn't wanna go there. 713 00:28:17,767 --> 00:28:18,767 That's his sacred cow. 714 00:28:18,767 --> 00:28:19,867 She's perfect. 715 00:28:19,867 --> 00:28:21,467 Don't dare talk about her. 716 00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:25,066 And I'm like, "Well, dude, how do you expect to be in a plural marriage with me?" 717 00:28:25,066 --> 00:28:28,300 If you have this... this person that you worship, 718 00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:30,367 That's part of being a husband in a plural marriage. 719 00:28:30,367 --> 00:28:32,800 You have to be able to hear everybody equally. 720 00:28:37,266 --> 00:28:38,767 So today is my birthday, 721 00:28:38,767 --> 00:28:41,000 and I get to finally see 722 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000 my carriage house all done. 723 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,567 [Blair] You've a workout area. 724 00:28:44,567 --> 00:28:46,367 -You've got a yoga area. -Oh, my God. Wait. 725 00:28:46,367 --> 00:28:49,667 -And we can do my pole dancing... -[Blair] TRX, yes. 726 00:28:49,667 --> 00:28:52,100 -I mean, TRX... -[Jenn laughing] 727 00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:53,767 I'm officially a single woman, 728 00:28:53,767 --> 00:28:58,367 and that's really been weird 729 00:28:58,367 --> 00:29:00,066 to wrap my head around. 730 00:29:10,266 --> 00:29:11,800 It's my birthday! 731 00:29:12,667 --> 00:29:13,767 So today is my birthday, 732 00:29:13,767 --> 00:29:17,900 and I get to finally see my carriage house all done. 733 00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:20,000 Blair has been here working on it, 734 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,567 and Jenn has really taken on the role of contractor. 735 00:29:24,567 --> 00:29:26,767 She's done an amazing job. 736 00:29:26,767 --> 00:29:30,600 This is like a very, very good birthday present for me this year. 737 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,900 It's just good timing. 738 00:29:32,266 --> 00:29:33,867 It's all good timing. 739 00:29:33,867 --> 00:29:35,667 It's only been just about a month 740 00:29:35,667 --> 00:29:38,233 since I officially split from Kody. 741 00:29:38,567 --> 00:29:40,100 I'm grieving a loss 742 00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:43,834 of what I thought was going to be forever. 743 00:29:44,367 --> 00:29:45,800 That is just weird. 744 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,867 I don't know what other word to put to it, 745 00:29:48,867 --> 00:29:52,100 except for it's just weird. 746 00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:54,667 -Hey. -We're ready for you. 747 00:29:54,667 --> 00:29:56,333 [Meri] I'm so ready. 748 00:29:57,900 --> 00:30:00,600 -[Jenn] I can't just cry in face. -[Blair] Deep breath. 749 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,900 -I haven't cried-- -You're already getting teary eyed. 750 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,300 I'm so excited. 751 00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:09,000 So the carriage house is going to be my work space. 752 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,467 I run an online clothing business 753 00:30:12,467 --> 00:30:15,100 and then upstairs is going to be a gym for me. 754 00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,767 This space has just been storage. 755 00:30:17,767 --> 00:30:21,867 It was a cement floor, and just basic walls, 756 00:30:21,867 --> 00:30:25,500 like they weren't even painted, and I cannot wait to see it. 757 00:30:26,066 --> 00:30:28,000 -Okay. -Are you ready? 758 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,166 [Meri] Yes. 759 00:30:29,166 --> 00:30:32,166 I have some high expectations for this. 760 00:30:32,166 --> 00:30:34,266 I have seen some of the work that Blair does. 761 00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:36,333 I am so excited to see this. 762 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:38,400 After you. 763 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,934 Oh, it's really pretty. 764 00:30:40,667 --> 00:30:42,100 It's really pretty. 765 00:30:43,066 --> 00:30:44,433 Oh, my God. 766 00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:49,100 [laughs] 767 00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:50,667 My God. 768 00:30:50,667 --> 00:30:53,367 It's completely transformed. 769 00:30:53,367 --> 00:30:55,600 Holy [bleep]! 770 00:30:56,667 --> 00:30:59,166 This is the most amazing transformation. 771 00:30:59,166 --> 00:31:02,166 Like, I can't stop looking at all the things, 772 00:31:02,166 --> 00:31:06,100 all the detail, all the things that he's hung up on the wall. 773 00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:09,000 But one of the best parts about it is the countertop. 774 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,300 I'm dying. It's amazing. 775 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,233 Amazing. 776 00:31:13,233 --> 00:31:15,467 I need you to direct your eye to that up corner right there. 777 00:31:15,467 --> 00:31:16,600 [sighs] 778 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,200 [Meri] She's just hanging out. 779 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,367 -[Blair] Had to be front and center looking over you. -[Jenn] Uh-huh. 780 00:31:22,367 --> 00:31:24,900 So when my mom passed away, 781 00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,000 we had a bunch of her favorite shirts, 782 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,000 and we had them made into these memory bears. 783 00:31:31,166 --> 00:31:32,600 This is so good. 784 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,266 [Blair] I'm so glad you like it. 785 00:31:34,266 --> 00:31:36,266 [crying] It is so good. 786 00:31:36,266 --> 00:31:38,300 [Blair] Oh. You deserve it. 787 00:31:38,867 --> 00:31:40,567 [Meri] It keeps my mom close. 788 00:31:40,567 --> 00:31:42,200 She loved the B&B. 789 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,600 She loved living here, 790 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,266 so it's just appropriate to have this out here. 791 00:31:47,266 --> 00:31:51,567 -Thank you for all the [bleep] you had to deal with. -[laughing] 792 00:31:51,567 --> 00:31:56,166 You know, it's no secret that Kody and I have had struggles 793 00:31:56,166 --> 00:31:58,567 in our relationship for a lot of years. 794 00:31:58,567 --> 00:32:00,600 All that money, we just don't have it. 795 00:32:02,066 --> 00:32:02,934 Here's the thing. 796 00:32:02,934 --> 00:32:05,433 The answer is yes, on... on conditions, 797 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,867 but we don't have it now. 798 00:32:07,867 --> 00:32:11,100 So in the springtime, I think we might be able to revisit this. 799 00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:12,767 [Janelle] I don't know. I mean, I don't know a timeframe. 800 00:32:12,767 --> 00:32:14,900 I'm not gonna wait until the spring. 801 00:32:15,467 --> 00:32:16,800 I can't wait until the spring. 802 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,667 So I'm actually, 803 00:32:18,667 --> 00:32:21,700 we'll probably leave right now and go do a sale. 804 00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:25,867 And start making that other $40,000 and just, like, bust my butt. 805 00:32:25,867 --> 00:32:29,166 So don't expect me to feed any family functions, or anything, 806 00:32:29,166 --> 00:32:30,433 because I need to do it. 807 00:32:31,567 --> 00:32:35,467 In the years since, like, I really have been 808 00:32:35,467 --> 00:32:38,700 doing basically everything in my life... 809 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,166 alone. 810 00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:42,000 I've been very independent. 811 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,100 I've been very confident in what I've been doing, you know, 812 00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:48,900 and it's something that I've had to kind of grow into. 813 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:52,567 Having this home back in the family 814 00:32:52,567 --> 00:32:55,166 has really been a big part of that. 815 00:32:55,166 --> 00:32:57,800 Oh, my gosh. 816 00:32:59,266 --> 00:33:02,867 So for my workouts, I have my stationary bike. 817 00:33:02,867 --> 00:33:04,266 I have a lot of weights. 818 00:33:04,266 --> 00:33:05,900 I do a lot of strength training. 819 00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:09,800 It's my space that I'm gonna go in and just, you know, 820 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,500 whether it's working or working out 821 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:15,567 or just, like, being me, like, it's just mine. It's all mine. 822 00:33:15,567 --> 00:33:18,867 And we can do my pole dancing. 823 00:33:18,867 --> 00:33:20,834 -I mean, TRX... -[Jenn laughing] 824 00:33:21,567 --> 00:33:22,900 I'm officially a single woman, 825 00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:29,066 and that's really been weird to wrap my head around. 826 00:33:29,066 --> 00:33:33,066 I'm not ready to look into dating. 827 00:33:33,066 --> 00:33:36,567 It's so new right now, like, I'm not ready for that. 828 00:33:36,567 --> 00:33:39,667 So Meri's reaction was everything we had hoped it would be. 829 00:33:39,667 --> 00:33:41,767 -And more. -There were tears, and that made me happy 830 00:33:41,767 --> 00:33:43,867 because she's, like-- 831 00:33:43,867 --> 00:33:47,100 -She's good about controlling her emotions. -[Blair] Right. 832 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:49,200 -And she deserves it, so. -Yeah. 833 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,700 I feel so in charge. 834 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:55,066 -Now I'm at the head-- -Well, this is your space, so you are in charge. 835 00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:58,667 If they don't want you at your table-- at their table, make your own. 836 00:33:58,667 --> 00:34:00,066 -[Blair] Here it is. -[Jenn] You made your own. 837 00:34:00,066 --> 00:34:02,133 Come join me at my table, my friends. 838 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,300 Join me at my table. 839 00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:06,100 Hello. Welcome. 840 00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:09,700 I don't have to be somewhere where I'm not wanted. 841 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,667 I'm gonna have my own table, 842 00:34:13,667 --> 00:34:16,700 and the people who want to be with me will be in my life. 843 00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:20,667 And I am so happy about the life that I'm creating 844 00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:23,767 and the table that I have. 845 00:34:23,767 --> 00:34:25,000 [Jenn] Yes. 846 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,400 [all cheering] 847 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,800 Okay, So I did call that lawyer that you talked to. 848 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,367 Oh. 849 00:34:35,367 --> 00:34:37,867 Janelle has a card that says "victim" on it. 850 00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:39,367 She likes to play it. 851 00:34:39,367 --> 00:34:40,700 I don't know. But I keep thinking 852 00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:42,767 that you and I could make this work. 853 00:34:42,767 --> 00:34:46,500 In some regards, especially coming from the culture that we come from, 854 00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:50,600 he's a failure to have lost all his marriages except for the one. 855 00:35:00,066 --> 00:35:02,767 Here's the thing, Kody. The fact that there's these sacred cows 856 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:04,767 that I can't talk about freely to you, 857 00:35:04,767 --> 00:35:06,867 about my emotions and my feelings 858 00:35:06,867 --> 00:35:10,100 is a big indicator of some things that are wrong. 859 00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,100 But you can't talk to me about your feelings and your emotions. 860 00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:14,467 No, but there's a bias, 861 00:35:14,467 --> 00:35:16,900 and I... and I... I don't want to do that anymore. 862 00:35:18,567 --> 00:35:20,367 A bias. 863 00:35:20,367 --> 00:35:23,100 Janelle has a card. It says "victim" on it. 864 00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,900 She likes to play it. 865 00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:27,567 I just think that's such a man thing, a male thing to do. 866 00:35:27,567 --> 00:35:30,400 Like, here I am, a woman who's really just trying to speak up 867 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,467 and advocate and protect herself, 868 00:35:32,467 --> 00:35:36,567 and it's labeled as something negative, victim behavior in this case. 869 00:35:36,567 --> 00:35:39,367 But I just don't know if we really work. 870 00:35:39,367 --> 00:35:43,000 Because I don't feel like I ever would be on an equal playing ground. 871 00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:47,567 -I want to be able to talk-- -The playing field is always equal. 872 00:35:47,567 --> 00:35:49,200 Okay, see, this is... 873 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,600 This is why I don't think-- 874 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,467 It's like I can't even... I can't explain to you 875 00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:55,467 and you're still... you're getting mad 876 00:35:55,467 --> 00:35:57,567 when I'm bringing up certain subjects. 877 00:35:57,567 --> 00:36:00,667 I'm not getting angry about certain subjects. 878 00:36:00,667 --> 00:36:04,266 -So I just feel like-- -And there are no sacred cows. 879 00:36:04,266 --> 00:36:07,100 My primary motivation, 880 00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:11,533 for Janelle and I reconciling would be for our family. 881 00:36:12,367 --> 00:36:13,600 I... I... 882 00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:17,367 But for us to reconcile, 883 00:36:17,367 --> 00:36:23,166 I will want her and I to partner with each other. 884 00:36:23,166 --> 00:36:26,734 It's not been a real partnership ever. 885 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,133 I almost don't really consider us married anymore. 886 00:36:33,066 --> 00:36:34,333 I mean, we're married. 887 00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:36,667 -Well, then-- -My spiritual belief says that we're married-- 888 00:36:36,667 --> 00:36:40,000 That's-- Let's... Let's cut the bull[bleep] about what you just-- 889 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,600 No, you have to know, I really struggle with how to proceed here. 890 00:36:44,367 --> 00:36:46,400 Because I know I don't want to go back. 891 00:36:47,767 --> 00:36:50,100 I don't want to be married to him anymore, 892 00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:52,800 but yet I don't even know who to go ask 893 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,867 for a release. 894 00:36:53,867 --> 00:36:57,367 However, I do know that Meri 895 00:36:57,367 --> 00:36:59,367 was able to just get a spiritual release, 896 00:36:59,367 --> 00:37:01,367 and we are both in the same boat. 897 00:37:01,367 --> 00:37:03,800 We haven't been part of that congregation for a long time. 898 00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:06,667 So maybe I... maybe I can. 899 00:37:06,667 --> 00:37:08,033 Maybe I can get one. 900 00:37:08,367 --> 00:37:10,166 [sighs] 901 00:37:10,166 --> 00:37:13,266 I think maybe it's just the pressure of the faith. 902 00:37:13,266 --> 00:37:16,867 Maybe it's the idea that I don't want to have another failure. 903 00:37:16,867 --> 00:37:19,834 I don't know. But I keep thinking that you and I could make this work. 904 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,500 I think you and I would have to be different people. 905 00:37:30,166 --> 00:37:31,033 Ah. 906 00:37:31,867 --> 00:37:33,600 You know, Kody keeps bringing up this. 907 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,867 Could we get back together again? 908 00:37:34,867 --> 00:37:38,700 And I just don't think it's really driven by any real emotion. 909 00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:40,767 Because if we were truly heartbroken, 910 00:37:40,767 --> 00:37:43,166 you would be seeing a lot more distress, 911 00:37:43,166 --> 00:37:45,266 a lot more effort on both sides. 912 00:37:45,266 --> 00:37:49,066 All I can think is that it's somehow driven by his ego. 913 00:37:49,066 --> 00:37:52,467 In some regards, especially coming from the culture that we come from, 914 00:37:52,467 --> 00:37:57,133 he's a failure to have lost all his marriages except for the one. 915 00:37:57,667 --> 00:37:58,967 What do you really want to do? 916 00:37:58,967 --> 00:38:01,300 Do you want to build out there, or would you like me to buy it? 917 00:38:01,867 --> 00:38:03,200 Probably the money. 918 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,100 But if the land is what I get, then I'm happy to build out there. 919 00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:08,800 In fact, I thought if I took that four-acre piece, 920 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,767 I'd probably just build a house right up on the hill. 921 00:38:10,767 --> 00:38:12,266 Forget the casino. 922 00:38:12,967 --> 00:38:15,867 If you build out there, you will be calling me every week. 923 00:38:15,867 --> 00:38:17,000 I know, that's part of it too. 924 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,467 I'm not sure I can do that independently. 925 00:38:19,467 --> 00:38:21,800 Do you want to try a love affair again? 926 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,300 [laughs] 927 00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:25,367 The property shouldn't be the motivation there. 928 00:38:25,367 --> 00:38:29,700 -That's tough. -I need my autonomy. I need my independence. 929 00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:31,834 You know what I mean? I just do. 930 00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:35,266 If she builds on Coyote Pass... 931 00:38:35,266 --> 00:38:36,700 [clears throat] 932 00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:40,100 ...I believe that Robyn and I will go, 933 00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:41,800 "Wait a second. 934 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,900 The ex-wife is on Coyote Pass. 935 00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:46,600 Why are we going to go on to Coyote Pass?" 936 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,200 If Janelle built on Coyote Pass, 937 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,867 it would set me free, I think, 938 00:38:50,867 --> 00:38:53,467 because I would leave this area. 939 00:38:53,467 --> 00:38:56,567 If you buy me out, then I can go where Maddie is, 940 00:38:56,567 --> 00:38:59,266 or you know I have options. 941 00:38:59,266 --> 00:39:01,667 -Which I have thought about. -Mm-hmm. 942 00:39:01,667 --> 00:39:03,533 Moving closer to the grandkids. 943 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,166 [Kody] Hmm. 944 00:39:05,166 --> 00:39:08,066 Why didn't she call me to tell me she was having a baby? 945 00:39:08,066 --> 00:39:10,734 The kids are all feeling very estranged from you. 946 00:39:11,867 --> 00:39:14,867 Maddie has observed to me that Kody has not been out 947 00:39:14,867 --> 00:39:17,867 to see her kids since Evie was born. 948 00:39:17,867 --> 00:39:19,667 And Evie's three. 949 00:39:19,667 --> 00:39:23,467 Maddie's like, "Why would I tell him that I'm having another one?" 950 00:39:23,467 --> 00:39:26,467 He hasn't really shown that much interest in the other two. 951 00:39:26,467 --> 00:39:31,166 Oh. They're talking like I've done something, kind of, evil to them. 952 00:39:31,166 --> 00:39:33,333 I'm missing something here. 953 00:39:34,367 --> 00:39:36,033 You know, I just-- I can-- 954 00:39:37,266 --> 00:39:40,133 There's a lot of nuances, and I can't be in the middle. 955 00:39:43,266 --> 00:39:44,934 Jealousy and gossip. 956 00:39:45,967 --> 00:39:48,033 No, I think there's a lot more to it. 957 00:39:49,967 --> 00:39:54,600 [Kody] I was a hero for 25 years with these kids. 958 00:39:55,567 --> 00:39:57,767 And now I'm not. 959 00:39:57,767 --> 00:40:00,000 I don't know. I don't know the answers to this. 960 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,600 I know that it's been a hard process and that I am moving forward 961 00:40:06,367 --> 00:40:09,767 with a lot of disappointment in failure. 962 00:40:09,767 --> 00:40:16,367 But hope that we can patch up some of the heartbreak. 963 00:40:16,367 --> 00:40:20,000 Okay, so I did call that lawyer that you talked to 964 00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:21,634 a few years ago 965 00:40:21,634 --> 00:40:24,367 because he's the only real... real estate guy in town. 966 00:40:24,367 --> 00:40:25,700 Oh. 967 00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:27,266 He said he would meet with both of us 968 00:40:27,266 --> 00:40:29,567 because he's talked to you a few years ago. 969 00:40:29,567 --> 00:40:33,266 He felt more comfortable if we were both in the office together. 970 00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:36,000 And it would be simply a fact-finding thing. 971 00:40:36,867 --> 00:40:39,667 Like, what we can do, what the constraints are. 972 00:40:39,667 --> 00:40:42,300 You know, even have him look at the contract we have. 973 00:40:44,667 --> 00:40:46,734 I... I think Janelle 974 00:40:48,166 --> 00:40:49,867 would do anything she could to screw me, 975 00:40:49,867 --> 00:40:52,200 so she's afraid I'll try to screw her. 976 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,667 [laughs] 977 00:40:53,667 --> 00:40:56,000 And so where I'm at is, I'm bitter. 978 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,266 And I don't care. [laughs] 979 00:41:00,266 --> 00:41:02,600 We've got to head off the nine-alarm fire. 980 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,100 -Yeah. -And then we can talk about-- 981 00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:05,767 Just talk to the lawyer after we've got more information. 982 00:41:05,767 --> 00:41:07,100 -Okay. All right. -Okay. 983 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:08,467 That's good with me. 984 00:41:08,467 --> 00:41:13,066 And again, there's no definite, like, yeah, we're going to do this. 985 00:41:13,066 --> 00:41:16,367 [Kody] I have made an effort for you for years. 986 00:41:16,367 --> 00:41:18,100 And what did you give me? 987 00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:20,400 You betrayed me. 988 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,100 She teamed up with Christine when Christine was leaving. 989 00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:25,867 She gave Christine her empathy, her sympathy, 990 00:41:25,867 --> 00:41:28,634 her kindness, her attention, her time. 991 00:41:29,867 --> 00:41:31,700 So you worry about what you're gonna do, 992 00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,567 and I'll worry about what I'm gonna do. 993 00:41:33,567 --> 00:41:36,000 -So, hey, I'll see you later. -Bye. 994 00:41:38,467 --> 00:41:40,800 Okay, maybe it's time for me to lawyer up. 995 00:41:45,367 --> 00:41:47,700 [Kody reading] 996 00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:50,867 Kody and I have officially said it's not working. 997 00:41:50,867 --> 00:41:53,900 I mean, I wish things, you know, in the family 998 00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:55,734 could have gone a different way. 999 00:41:57,367 --> 00:41:58,900 Yeah, me, too. 1000 00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:02,066 I've had some definite cutting-ties moments. 1001 00:42:02,066 --> 00:42:04,266 -This is Savanah, one of my girls. -[David] Hi. 1002 00:42:04,266 --> 00:42:06,667 And then this is Gabe, one of my boys. 1003 00:42:06,667 --> 00:42:12,233 I hope that Meri and Janelle are moving on with however their future looks. 1004 00:42:13,066 --> 00:42:16,166 Hey, Dad, mom's new boyfriend's gonna be there. 1005 00:42:16,166 --> 00:42:18,867 -Hello. -[Robyn] It was a little shocking. 1006 00:42:18,867 --> 00:42:22,100 Christine on their side and we'll just try to not bother them. 1007 00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:24,467 [Kody] I can't imagine that for me and Robyn, 1008 00:42:24,467 --> 00:42:27,166 this is going to be a pleasant experience at all.