WEBVTT 1 00:00:01,724 --> 00:00:03,896 SuChin: LAST TIME ON "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL"... 2 00:00:03,896 --> 00:00:06,965 COME SIT RIGHT HERE. SIT HERE. 3 00:00:06,965 --> 00:00:08,586 I DON'T WANT TO PROMISE YOU SOMETHING 4 00:00:08,586 --> 00:00:10,137 THAT ENDS UP NOT WORKING 5 00:00:10,137 --> 00:00:13,655 BECAUSE OF CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND MY CONTROL. 6 00:00:13,655 --> 00:00:17,896 I WAS SO VERY PRESENT WHEN THE TWO OF THEM 7 00:00:17,896 --> 00:00:20,172 WERE MOURNING THE RELATIONSHIP LOSS. 8 00:00:20,172 --> 00:00:22,793 THIS IS LIKE THE NEW BEGINNING. THE PAST IS GONE. 9 00:00:22,793 --> 00:00:25,379 IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO, LIKE, FIGURE OUT A WAY ALMOST 10 00:00:25,379 --> 00:00:29,724 TO, LIKE, JUST CUT IT OFF AND JUST BE DEAD. 11 00:00:29,724 --> 00:00:31,965 IT AFFECTED US SO MUCH. 12 00:00:31,965 --> 00:00:33,551 IT AFFECTED THE FAMILY. 13 00:00:33,551 --> 00:00:36,103 OUR RELATIONSHIPS DON'T EXIST IN VACUUMS. 14 00:00:36,103 --> 00:00:39,689 --Captions by VITAC-- www.vitac.com 15 00:00:39,689 --> 00:00:42,793 [ Voice breaks ] I THOUGHT IT WAS BECAUSE I WAS WORN OUT. 16 00:00:42,793 --> 00:00:44,793 SuChin: COMING UP IN PART TWO... 17 00:00:44,793 --> 00:00:46,137 HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW? 18 00:00:46,137 --> 00:00:48,896 IT'S NOT THE BEST SITUATION. 19 00:00:48,896 --> 00:00:50,620 IT'S ABOUT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY. 20 00:00:50,620 --> 00:00:52,517 [ SIGHS HEAVILY ] 21 00:00:52,517 --> 00:00:54,275 AND I WAS NEVER CHASING A GIRL. 22 00:00:54,275 --> 00:00:56,724 OH, THAT'S A -- THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. 23 00:00:56,724 --> 00:00:59,172 IT JUST IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND DOESN'T WORK. 24 00:00:59,172 --> 00:01:00,344 IF IT FEELS LIKE A FAILURE. 25 00:01:00,344 --> 00:01:01,586 IT HAS A LOT OF EMOTION ATTACHED TO IT. 26 00:01:01,586 --> 00:01:03,689 YEAH, IT DOES. "DIVORCE" -- IT'S NEGATIVE. 27 00:01:03,689 --> 00:01:06,310 THE GOAL, I THINK, HAS BEEN TO LEARN TO BE FRANK 28 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:07,620 AND STILL BE KIND. -MM. 29 00:01:07,620 --> 00:01:09,758 NANCY WOULD BE LIKE, "OKAY, GET OVER YOUR CRAP." 30 00:01:09,758 --> 00:01:11,931 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 31 00:01:11,931 --> 00:01:14,172 HELLO, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO PART TWO 32 00:01:14,172 --> 00:01:15,517 OF "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL." 33 00:01:15,517 --> 00:01:16,724 I AM SuChin PAK. 34 00:01:16,724 --> 00:01:18,620 PREVIOUSLY, THE FAMILY DISCUSSED 35 00:01:18,620 --> 00:01:22,241 ONE OF THE MOST CONTENTIOUS MOMENTS OF THE SEASON -- 36 00:01:22,241 --> 00:01:25,689 MERI'S PURSUIT OF HER FAMILY HOME. 37 00:01:25,689 --> 00:01:27,068 Meri: MY LOAN WAS APPROVED. 38 00:01:27,068 --> 00:01:28,931 Kody: YOU GOT THE DOWN PAYMENT MONEY, TOO? 39 00:01:28,931 --> 00:01:31,206 NO. THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, TOO. 40 00:01:31,206 --> 00:01:33,172 WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR MONEY. 41 00:01:33,172 --> 00:01:34,793 WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT. 42 00:01:34,793 --> 00:01:37,379 I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED 'CAUSE IT SEEMS VERY SELFISH TO ME. 43 00:01:37,379 --> 00:01:41,068 SHE CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE REST OF THE FAMILY. 44 00:01:41,068 --> 00:01:43,275 SuChin: IT'S TEARING THE FAMILY APART. 45 00:01:43,275 --> 00:01:44,931 WOULD YOU HAVE TAKEN A STEP BACK? 46 00:01:44,931 --> 00:01:46,310 THIS ONE WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. 47 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:49,000 I NEVER THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD INVESTMENT. 48 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,655 SO, ARE YOU GOOD WITH ME? 49 00:01:52,655 --> 00:01:55,275 AND NOW ON PART TWO... 50 00:01:55,275 --> 00:01:57,620 AT THE TIME, IT WAS, LIKE, ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT -- 51 00:01:57,620 --> 00:02:00,586 I HAVE A MUCH BIGGER PICTURE TO DEAL WITH, 52 00:02:00,586 --> 00:02:02,172 AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS 53 00:02:02,172 --> 00:02:06,620 THAT JUST REALLY IS MORE LIKE AN IRRITATION TO ME. 54 00:02:06,620 --> 00:02:10,896 IT'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT TO ME 55 00:02:10,896 --> 00:02:12,793 AND DIDN'T PASS MY SNIFF TEST. 56 00:02:12,793 --> 00:02:17,482 AND I'M JUST LIKE, "MERI, YOU DO YOUR THING, AND YOU CAN DO IT." 57 00:02:17,482 --> 00:02:21,448 AT THE TIME, VERY DIFFERENT VIEW. 58 00:02:21,448 --> 00:02:24,068 SO, ARE YOU GOOD WITH ME? 59 00:02:28,620 --> 00:02:31,620 YOU ARE LIVING HERE IN FLAGSTAFF. 60 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:33,103 WE DIDN'T KNOW, MERI. 61 00:02:33,103 --> 00:02:36,896 AND AS MUCH AS YOU SAID IT, WE DIDN'T KNOW. 62 00:02:36,896 --> 00:02:38,793 WE'RE HERE FLAGSTAFF, 63 00:02:38,793 --> 00:02:42,241 AND THE B&B IS WHERE YOUR MOTHER LIVES. 64 00:02:42,241 --> 00:02:46,413 IN A NUTSHELL, IT ALWAYS LOOKED LIKE, TO ME, 65 00:02:46,413 --> 00:02:48,379 THAT YOU WERE GOING TO LEAVE. 66 00:02:48,379 --> 00:02:50,448 THAT'S WHY YOU WERE FRUSTRATED WITH THE WHOLE THING? 67 00:02:50,448 --> 00:02:52,758 I'M JUST NOW UNDERSTANDING THIS. 68 00:02:52,758 --> 00:02:55,862 WELL, NOT JUST THAT. I THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD INVESTMENT. 69 00:02:55,862 --> 00:02:59,206 SO AT THE TIME, THERE WERE OTHER FACTORS INVOLVED AS WELL. 70 00:02:59,206 --> 00:03:02,586 SO YOU WERE LOOKING AT IT VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN I WAS. 71 00:03:02,586 --> 00:03:03,689 AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY... 72 00:03:03,689 --> 00:03:05,344 I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE WORKED THIS OUT. 73 00:03:05,344 --> 00:03:06,586 YOU WERE LOOKING AT IT AS, 74 00:03:06,586 --> 00:03:08,413 "I'VE GOT TO GET THIS BACK IN MY FAMILY." 75 00:03:08,413 --> 00:03:10,448 I WAS LOOKING AT IT AS... 76 00:03:10,448 --> 00:03:13,137 "MERI'S LOOKING FOR AN OUT." 77 00:03:13,137 --> 00:03:16,172 AND IF SHE'S NOT, IT'S STILL A REALLY BAD INVESTMENT, 78 00:03:16,172 --> 00:03:17,827 IS HOW I VIEWED IT. -SuChin: RIGHT. 79 00:03:17,827 --> 00:03:19,482 BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S INTERESTING, THOUGH, 80 00:03:19,482 --> 00:03:23,137 THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMING TO EVEN MORE CLARITY AROUND IT, 81 00:03:23,137 --> 00:03:26,000 YOU KNOW, AS YOU CONTINUE TO PEEL BACK THE LAYERS 82 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,931 IN THIS NEW SPACE, RIGHT? 83 00:03:27,931 --> 00:03:31,379 WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE MEETING WITH YOU. 84 00:03:31,379 --> 00:03:34,068 SHE JUST SAID, "OH, I'M HEARING SOMETHING," 85 00:03:34,068 --> 00:03:35,206 YOU KNOW, "IN A DIFFERENT WAY. 86 00:03:35,206 --> 00:03:36,413 WE SAY IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 87 00:03:36,413 --> 00:03:37,724 WE'VE DISCUSSED. WE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE. 88 00:03:37,724 --> 00:03:40,586 -YOU THOUGHT THAT I WAS... -Kody: AT THE TIME... 89 00:03:40,586 --> 00:03:43,206 YOU REALLY THOUGHT THAT I WAS LEAVING? 90 00:03:45,206 --> 00:03:47,482 AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WANTING IT? 91 00:03:47,482 --> 00:03:49,758 IT'S SO FUNNY BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. 92 00:03:49,758 --> 00:03:52,517 'CAUSE I SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER TO THEM, 93 00:03:52,517 --> 00:03:55,068 "THAT'S NOT WHY I'M GETTING IT," YOU KNOW? 94 00:03:55,068 --> 00:03:56,379 SO... -SuChin: YEAH. 95 00:03:56,379 --> 00:03:59,241 BUT AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS TENSION IN THE FAMILY. 96 00:03:59,241 --> 00:04:00,655 THERE WAS STRESS IN THE FAMILY.RIGHT. 97 00:04:00,655 --> 00:04:03,137 WE WERE SORT OF STRUGGLING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 98 00:04:03,137 --> 00:04:05,137 AND SO, MAYBE YOU WERE SAYING THAT, 99 00:04:05,137 --> 00:04:09,310 BUT, LIKE, ON A RELATIONSHIP LEVEL, YOU FELT DISTANT. 100 00:04:09,310 --> 00:04:11,655 SO MAYBE THAT JUST KIND OF WAS LIKE, 101 00:04:11,655 --> 00:04:14,206 "OKAY, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN EXACTLY?" 102 00:04:14,206 --> 00:04:16,068 [ SIGHS ] 103 00:04:16,068 --> 00:04:18,379 LET'S PUT THIS TO BED NOW. I'M GLAD SHE HAS IT. 104 00:04:18,379 --> 00:04:19,689 IT'S IN THE FAMILY. 105 00:04:19,689 --> 00:04:21,551 I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WAS A GREAT INVESTMENT... 106 00:04:21,551 --> 00:04:22,827 [ LAUGHTER ]BUT IT WAS VERY SPECIAL TO HER. 107 00:04:22,827 --> 00:04:24,000 HE STILL HAS TO HAVE -- 108 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,172 HE STILL HAS TO HAVE HIS, LIKE -- 109 00:04:26,172 --> 00:04:28,000 HE STILL HAS THE LAST WORD. 110 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,724 YOU KNOW, I GOT TO PROTECT MY --JUST DROP IT, MAN. DROP IT. 111 00:04:31,724 --> 00:04:33,724 THAT'S NOT THE "LAST WORD" ISSUE. 112 00:04:33,724 --> 00:04:34,931 THE "LAST WORD" ISSUE IS THAT 113 00:04:34,931 --> 00:04:36,448 I'M GLAD SHE HAS IT IN THE FAMILY, 114 00:04:36,448 --> 00:04:40,620 AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF. 115 00:04:40,620 --> 00:04:43,827 MERI AND CHRISTINE, YOU HAD SOME TENSION 116 00:04:43,827 --> 00:04:46,517 THAT YOU WORKED OUT IN THE WAKE OF AXEL'S BIRTH. 117 00:04:46,517 --> 00:04:48,827 WE ALL GO TO SEE IT FIRSTHAND... -YEAH. 118 00:04:48,827 --> 00:04:50,620 ...SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. 119 00:04:50,620 --> 00:04:52,275 IT'S THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING. 120 00:04:52,275 --> 00:04:55,206 [ LAUGHTER ] 121 00:04:55,206 --> 00:04:57,137 Meri: SHORTLY AFTER MADISON HAD AXEL, 122 00:04:57,137 --> 00:04:59,241 CHRISTINE ASKED ME TO COME OVER TO HER HOUSE 123 00:04:59,241 --> 00:05:00,793 TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER, 124 00:05:00,793 --> 00:05:03,275 AND IT WAS KIND OF A HARD CONVERSATION. 125 00:05:03,275 --> 00:05:04,724 SO, MY THING IS, IS I'M JUST GONNA BE 126 00:05:04,724 --> 00:05:06,965 COMPLETELY HONEST WITH YOU. 127 00:05:06,965 --> 00:05:10,689 YOU BRING A LOT OF BAGGAGE WHEN YOU COME IN THE ROOM, 128 00:05:10,689 --> 00:05:13,068 AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT. 129 00:05:13,068 --> 00:05:16,310 SHE WAS PRETTY DIRECT. 130 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:18,241 MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TOO DIRECT. 131 00:05:18,241 --> 00:05:20,931 SO I'M ASKING HER TO COME OVER TODAY 132 00:05:20,931 --> 00:05:23,827 SO WE CAN KIND OF CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION. 133 00:05:23,827 --> 00:05:27,482 LIKE, I THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT IT, AFTER. 134 00:05:27,482 --> 00:05:31,482 I RECOGNIZED THAT... 135 00:05:31,482 --> 00:05:33,517 YOU WERE COMING FROM A PLACE OF, 136 00:05:33,517 --> 00:05:37,344 LIKE, WANTING TO HELP AND HEAL 137 00:05:37,344 --> 00:05:39,310 AND, YOU KNOW, WORK TOWARDS STUFF. 138 00:05:39,310 --> 00:05:42,034 I SAID SO MANY THINGS WRONG. I DIDN'T MEAN THEM WRONG. 139 00:05:42,034 --> 00:05:44,068 I ONLY MEAN TO COME FROM A PLACE OF KINDNESS. 140 00:05:44,068 --> 00:05:47,551 I MEAN, YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH ME AROUND. 141 00:05:47,551 --> 00:05:50,586 I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO FROM HERE EITHER. I DON'T KNOW. 142 00:05:50,586 --> 00:05:53,689 WE USED TO HAVE, LIKE, SO MUCH FUN TOGETHER. 143 00:05:53,689 --> 00:05:57,241 LIKE, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT EVEN HAPPENED TO ALL OF THAT. 144 00:05:57,241 --> 00:06:00,896 LIKE, WE USED TO HANG OUT AND HAVE FUN AND LAUGH AND BE CRAZY, 145 00:06:00,896 --> 00:06:03,206 AND I KNOW HOW TO LAUGH AND BE CRAZY AND HAVE FUN. 146 00:06:03,206 --> 00:06:04,689 I DO THAT WITH MY FRIENDS. 147 00:06:04,689 --> 00:06:05,896 YEAH, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR FRIENDS. 148 00:06:05,896 --> 00:06:07,586 YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH ME. 149 00:06:07,586 --> 00:06:09,413 I MEAN, WE WERE FRIENDS FOR A LONG TIME. 150 00:06:09,413 --> 00:06:11,448 BACK IN UTAH... WHEN WE LIVED IN UTAH. 151 00:06:11,448 --> 00:06:14,103 YEAH, IT WAS IN UTAH. 152 00:06:14,103 --> 00:06:16,379 WHEN I SHUT DOWN ON EVERYBODY, NOT JUST YOU. 153 00:06:16,379 --> 00:06:18,172 AND SO YOU JUST KINDA PULLED AWAY. 154 00:06:18,172 --> 00:06:19,413 FROM EVERYTHING, FROM EVERYBODY. 155 00:06:19,413 --> 00:06:21,172 A SISTER-WIFE RELATIONSHIP IS SUPER TRICKY 156 00:06:21,172 --> 00:06:22,965 BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO BE BEST FRIENDS WITH A WOMAN 157 00:06:22,965 --> 00:06:25,482 WHO HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR HUSBAND. 158 00:06:25,482 --> 00:06:27,241 IF I'M HAVING A BAD DAY WITH KODY, 159 00:06:27,241 --> 00:06:28,689 THE LAST THING THAT I WANT TO SEE IS 160 00:06:28,689 --> 00:06:30,482 HIM HAVING A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. 161 00:06:30,482 --> 00:06:33,034 I WANT TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP 162 00:06:33,034 --> 00:06:35,551 WITH ALL OF YOU GUYS, 163 00:06:35,551 --> 00:06:38,965 WITH KODY, WITH THE KIDS. 164 00:06:38,965 --> 00:06:42,103 I LOOK AT THE FAMILY AS ME BEING THE COMMON DENOMINATOR 165 00:06:42,103 --> 00:06:43,413 OF THE PROBLEMS. 166 00:06:43,413 --> 00:06:48,586 IT'S REALLY HARD TO, LIKE, BE HERE AND, LIKE, 167 00:06:48,586 --> 00:06:51,586 MAKE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO WORK ON THESE RELATIONSHIPS. 168 00:06:51,586 --> 00:06:53,310 YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING IN FROM THE OUTSIDE ALL THE TIME. 169 00:06:53,310 --> 00:06:54,620 TOTALLY OUT ON THE OUTSIDE. 170 00:06:54,620 --> 00:06:59,034 I FEEL LIKE IT, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE. 171 00:06:59,034 --> 00:07:00,551 ♪♪ 172 00:07:00,551 --> 00:07:04,344 I CAN TELL MERI EVERY DAY 173 00:07:04,344 --> 00:07:06,068 THAT, "YOU HAVE A PLACE IN THIS FAMILY." 174 00:07:06,068 --> 00:07:08,551 BUT UNTIL SHE BELIEVES SHE HAS A PLACE IN THE FAMILY, 175 00:07:08,551 --> 00:07:11,000 SHE NEVER WILL. 176 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,758 I JUST LOVE FILMING CONVERSATIONS. 177 00:07:12,758 --> 00:07:14,965 YOU GET TO LIVE IT, AND THEN REWATCH IT 178 00:07:14,965 --> 00:07:17,103 OVER AND OVER, AND IT NEVER GOES AWAY. 179 00:07:17,103 --> 00:07:18,551 -SuChin: NO, IT DOESN'T, BUT... -IT'S OKAY. 180 00:07:18,551 --> 00:07:22,103 ...YOU GUYS HAD SOME STUFF THAT WAS BREWING UNDERNEATH 181 00:07:22,103 --> 00:07:25,379 FROM YEARS AGO THAT, WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP, 182 00:07:25,379 --> 00:07:28,551 AND THEN SUDDENLY THAT CAME UP, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT TIME... 183 00:07:28,551 --> 00:07:31,068 SO HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW WITH, AF-- 184 00:07:31,068 --> 00:07:34,241 WATCHING THIS CONVERSATION AND WHERE YOU GUYS ARE TODAY? 185 00:07:34,241 --> 00:07:36,068 HECK, WE HATE WATCHING THAT CONVERSATION. 186 00:07:36,068 --> 00:07:37,620 ARE YOU KIDDING? WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT. 187 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:39,551 WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THINGS, HONESTLY. 188 00:07:39,551 --> 00:07:42,310 IT'S NOT THE BEST SITUATION. IT'S NOT. 189 00:07:42,310 --> 00:07:45,482 EVEN IF WE WERE COMPLETELY OVER IT AND BETTER, 190 00:07:45,482 --> 00:07:50,448 WATCHING THINGS LIKE THAT ALWAYS BRINGS IT BACK UP AGAIN. 191 00:07:50,448 --> 00:07:52,103 WHAT ABOUT YOU, MERI? 192 00:07:52,103 --> 00:07:55,310 IT'S NOT THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LIKE, THROWING AWAY. 193 00:07:55,310 --> 00:07:59,793 IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, WHEN ARE WE BOTH GONNA BE READY 194 00:07:59,793 --> 00:08:02,827 TO, LIKE, MOVE TOWARD SOMETHING DIFFERENT? 195 00:08:02,827 --> 00:08:05,241 WHEN YOU HAD CHRISTINE COME OVER AGAIN, 196 00:08:05,241 --> 00:08:08,379 YOU HAD A REAL VULNERABLE MOMENT IN THERE, WHEN YOU WERE LIKE, 197 00:08:08,379 --> 00:08:11,000 "AM I THE FACTOR THAT'S BREAKING DOWN IN THIS?" 198 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,379 WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THAT? 199 00:08:12,379 --> 00:08:14,724 BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A REAL SORT OF, LIKE, 200 00:08:14,724 --> 00:08:16,103 OPEN MOMENT THERE. 201 00:08:16,103 --> 00:08:19,103 IT'S HARD TO FEEL LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW? 202 00:08:19,103 --> 00:08:21,965 AND I DEFINITELY DO FEEL LIKE THAT AT TIMES. 203 00:08:21,965 --> 00:08:26,068 AND I HAVE -- LIKE, I KNOW MY... 204 00:08:26,068 --> 00:08:30,000 PROBABLY MY BIGGEST FAULT IN MY PERSONALITY 205 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,655 IS WHERE, LIKE, IF I'M NOT ALL IN, 206 00:08:33,655 --> 00:08:37,413 I'M GONNA PULL AWAY AND BE ALL OUT. YOU KNOW? 207 00:08:37,413 --> 00:08:40,000 THAT'S A THING THAT I HAVE TO WORK ON, MYSELF. 208 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,965 I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THIS, BUT IN SOME WAYS, 209 00:08:41,965 --> 00:08:45,551 I'M LIKE, WHO UNDERSTANDS YOU BETTER THAN HER? 210 00:08:45,551 --> 00:08:46,965 AND VICE VERSA. 211 00:08:46,965 --> 00:08:48,482 -IT'S TRUE. -NOT ANYBODY. 212 00:08:48,482 --> 00:08:50,275 -IT'S TRUE. -YEAH. 213 00:08:50,275 --> 00:08:52,862 THEY HAVE THE SAME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SAME MAN. 214 00:08:52,862 --> 00:08:55,482 [ LAUGHTER ] -PROBABLY NOT. 215 00:08:55,482 --> 00:08:57,172 WELL, IT GOES DEEPER THAN THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW... 216 00:08:57,172 --> 00:08:58,655 I MEAN, SHE'S -- 217 00:08:58,655 --> 00:09:01,206 HONESTLY, CHRISTINE HAS SEEN ME AT MY BEST AND AT MY WORST. 218 00:09:01,206 --> 00:09:02,586 SHE REALLY HAS. 219 00:09:02,586 --> 00:09:05,379 I WANT TO SORT OF OPEN IT UP TO YOU, AS WELL, 220 00:09:05,379 --> 00:09:07,379 BECAUSE I THINK, AS WE ALL TALKED ABOUT, 221 00:09:07,379 --> 00:09:08,862 WHETHER IT'S UPS OR DOWNS, 222 00:09:08,862 --> 00:09:10,551 IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE UNIT, YOU KNOW? 223 00:09:10,551 --> 00:09:12,862 AND THAT'S WHAT'S KIND OF AMAZING 224 00:09:12,862 --> 00:09:15,172 AND ALSO COMPLICATED ABOUT IT. 225 00:09:15,172 --> 00:09:16,862 WHEN I WATCH THE CONVERSATIONS, 226 00:09:16,862 --> 00:09:18,586 I FEEL LIKE I'M LOOKING IN 227 00:09:18,586 --> 00:09:21,413 ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT MY BUSINESS, FIRST OF ALL. 228 00:09:21,413 --> 00:09:23,793 AND THEN, I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE, OH, WOW -- 229 00:09:23,793 --> 00:09:25,896 YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO HAVE 230 00:09:25,896 --> 00:09:27,896 AN AWKWARD CONVERSATION A SISTER WIFE, 231 00:09:27,896 --> 00:09:31,551 AND TO HAVE, LIKE, SOMETHING WHERE 232 00:09:31,551 --> 00:09:33,241 YOU WANT TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE 233 00:09:33,241 --> 00:09:35,517 AND YOU WANT TO FIND THAT RESOLUTION, 234 00:09:35,517 --> 00:09:38,551 BUT YOU'RE NOT QUITE THERE, AND SO IT'S STILL QUITE -- 235 00:09:38,551 --> 00:09:41,275 IT'S STILL KIND OF LIKE... [ GROANS ] 236 00:09:41,275 --> 00:09:43,103 JUST A LITTLE BIT -- STILL JUST A LITTLE BIT AWKWARD, 237 00:09:43,103 --> 00:09:44,586 AND I'M JUST LIKE -- AND I JUST SIT THERE AND GO, 238 00:09:44,586 --> 00:09:47,103 I HOPE THEY CAN KIND OF FIGURE IT OUT AND STUFF, 239 00:09:47,103 --> 00:09:51,379 'CAUSE I KNOW HOW UNCOMFORTABLE A RELATIONSHIP 240 00:09:51,379 --> 00:09:54,137 CAN BE WITH A SISTER WIFE WHEN YOU'RE NOT QUITE JIVING. 241 00:09:54,137 --> 00:09:55,482 BEING IN THIS RELATIONSHIP, 242 00:09:55,482 --> 00:09:57,275 HOW DO YOU FIND THE DELICATE BALANCE 243 00:09:57,275 --> 00:10:01,448 BETWEEN FULLY EXPRESSING YOURSELF 244 00:10:01,448 --> 00:10:04,827 AND YET ALSO HOLDING THE GROUP'S INTENTION? 245 00:10:04,827 --> 00:10:07,034 IS THAT TRICKY? -YOU KNOW WHAT? 246 00:10:07,034 --> 00:10:09,241 THIS ACTUALLY IS SOMETHING I WISH 247 00:10:09,241 --> 00:10:11,448 I COULD SIT THERE AND TEACH TO OTHER PEOPLE SO MUCH, 248 00:10:11,448 --> 00:10:14,724 BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND US 249 00:10:14,724 --> 00:10:16,000 BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE, 250 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,551 "NO, YOU SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT YOURSELF," 251 00:10:17,551 --> 00:10:20,551 AND THEY'RE ALWAYS LIKE CHEERING FOR ONE OF US 252 00:10:20,551 --> 00:10:22,034 WHEN WE'RE, LIKE, STEPPING OUT 253 00:10:22,034 --> 00:10:24,413 AND WE'RE NOT QUITE JIVING WITH THE FAMILY. 254 00:10:24,413 --> 00:10:27,827 "YEAH, YOU GO! YOU GO LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF!" 255 00:10:27,827 --> 00:10:29,137 AND I GET REALLY FRUSTRATED WITH THAT 256 00:10:29,137 --> 00:10:32,241 BECAUSE OUR FAMILY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. 257 00:10:32,241 --> 00:10:35,103 AND, YEAH, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALITY AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 258 00:10:35,103 --> 00:10:37,241 BUT, LIKE, WE CHOSE TO BE IN THIS FAMILY 259 00:10:37,241 --> 00:10:40,137 TO BE IN THIS AS A GROUP AND TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM, 260 00:10:40,137 --> 00:10:44,241 AND WE BELIEVE WE'RE IN THIS FOR ETERNITY KIND OF A THING. 261 00:10:44,241 --> 00:10:45,931 IT'S SOMETHING THAT, 262 00:10:45,931 --> 00:10:49,034 WE HAVE THE TWO THAT WE'RE BALANCING CONSTANTLY, 263 00:10:49,034 --> 00:10:51,275 AND I THINK THE LONGER WE GO WITH IT, 264 00:10:51,275 --> 00:10:56,551 THE MORE WE REALIZE THAT THE GROUP INTEREST 265 00:10:56,551 --> 00:11:01,034 ACTUALLY SERVES US AS WELL, SERVES US PERSONALLY AS WELL. 266 00:11:01,034 --> 00:11:02,793 WHEN WE COME BACK... 267 00:11:02,793 --> 00:11:06,758 I SAW A LOT OF BAD SISTER WIFE RELATIONSHIPS. 268 00:11:06,758 --> 00:11:08,551 -THAT'S CREEPY. -THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. 269 00:11:08,551 --> 00:11:11,172 LIKE, STAY AWAY FROM HIM. HE'S NOT HUSBAND MATERIAL. 270 00:11:11,172 --> 00:11:12,344 Meri: IT WOULD BE GREAT IF ANY OF OUR KIDS 271 00:11:12,344 --> 00:11:13,965 WANTED TO START A PLURAL FAMILY. 272 00:11:13,965 --> 00:11:16,103 ASPYN'S NOT OPEN TO IT. 273 00:11:16,103 --> 00:11:18,172 I WOULD BE. 274 00:11:20,034 --> 00:11:21,241 WELCOME BACK TO "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL." 275 00:11:21,241 --> 00:11:22,793 I'M SuChin PAK. 276 00:11:22,793 --> 00:11:24,620 ALL RIGHT, PLURAL MARRIAGE. 277 00:11:24,620 --> 00:11:26,758 YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, 278 00:11:26,758 --> 00:11:28,758 A VERY DAUNTING LIFE TO CHOOSE. 279 00:11:28,758 --> 00:11:30,586 FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT LEGALLY RECOGNIZED 280 00:11:30,586 --> 00:11:32,172 IN THE UNITED STATES. AND THEN, OF COURSE, 281 00:11:32,172 --> 00:11:34,586 THERE ARE THESE INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS. 282 00:11:34,586 --> 00:11:36,551 SO I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK BACK AT THIS YEAR 283 00:11:36,551 --> 00:11:38,827 AND SEE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE SAID ABOUT IT. 284 00:11:38,827 --> 00:11:40,310 SO TAKE A LOOK. -OH, WOW. 285 00:11:42,103 --> 00:11:45,103 YOU MEAN THAT NOT ALL POLYGAMISTS MOVE TO LAS VEGAS 286 00:11:45,103 --> 00:11:46,551 TO GET AWAY FROM THE LAW? 287 00:11:46,551 --> 00:11:49,034 [ LAUGHTER ]I-I'M TEASING. 288 00:11:49,034 --> 00:11:53,206 OUR CHURCH CULTURE TEACHES THAT WOMEN CAN CHOOSE WHO THEY MARRY. 289 00:11:53,206 --> 00:11:56,517 IT'S OKAY FOR A YOUNG LADY TO APPROACH A FAMILY. 290 00:11:56,517 --> 00:11:58,586 YOU KNOW, MARRIED MEN GOING OUT LOOKING FOR WIVES, 291 00:11:58,586 --> 00:12:00,517 IT JUST -- IT'S ACTUALLY FROWNED UPON. 292 00:12:00,517 --> 00:12:02,965 I MEAN, THERE'S EXAMPLES THAT WE HAD WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER, 293 00:12:02,965 --> 00:12:04,586 WHERE WE WOULD LOOK AT OTHER SISTER WIVES 294 00:12:04,586 --> 00:12:06,724 AND THEIR RELATIONSHIPS, AND, LIKE -- 295 00:12:06,724 --> 00:12:09,103 AFTER MY GRANDPA DIED AND ALL OF HIS WIVES JUST KINDA 296 00:12:09,103 --> 00:12:11,034 GROUPED TOGETHER AND BECAME BEST FRIENDS, 297 00:12:11,034 --> 00:12:12,379 I LOVED IT. IT WAS, LIKE, A HUGE EXAMPLE 298 00:12:12,379 --> 00:12:14,137 OF WHY I WANTED TO LIVE A PLURAL MARRIAGE. 299 00:12:14,137 --> 00:12:15,206 ONE OF THE MOST HEARTBREAKING THINGS 300 00:12:15,206 --> 00:12:16,724 IS WHEN A WOMAN COMES INTO TOWN 301 00:12:16,724 --> 00:12:18,586 AND SHE WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FAMILY STRUCTURE. 302 00:12:18,586 --> 00:12:21,172 SHE ONLY WANTS TO BE MARRIED TO THE MAN, AND DOESN'T WANT 303 00:12:21,172 --> 00:12:22,896 ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OTHER WIVES. 304 00:12:22,896 --> 00:12:24,931 AS A FAMILY IN PLURAL MARRIAGE, 305 00:12:24,931 --> 00:12:27,241 WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH EACH OTHER 306 00:12:27,241 --> 00:12:29,896 THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE, 307 00:12:29,896 --> 00:12:31,689 THAT WE'RE ALL HELPING. 308 00:12:31,689 --> 00:12:33,689 THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN. 309 00:12:33,689 --> 00:12:38,172 I SAW A LOT OF BAD SISTER WIFE RELATIONSHIPS, 310 00:12:38,172 --> 00:12:40,172 YOU KNOW, AS I WAS GROWING UP AND IN MY CHURCH. 311 00:12:40,172 --> 00:12:42,724 THE ONES THAT WERE BAD WERE REALLY SCARY. 312 00:12:42,724 --> 00:12:45,000 AND THE ONES THAT ARE GOOD ARE, LIKE... 313 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,068 THEY SEEM SORT OF TRANSCENDENT. 314 00:12:48,068 --> 00:12:51,034 THEY SEEM VERY, LIKE, ADVANCED 315 00:12:51,034 --> 00:12:52,862 IN THE WAY THAT THEY THINK AND FEEL, 316 00:12:52,862 --> 00:12:55,275 AND IT WAS SOMETHING TO LOOK UP TO. 317 00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:59,275 BUT IT'S REALLY EASY TO -- TO FALL SHORT. 318 00:12:59,275 --> 00:13:01,344 Christine: I LOVE THE FAMILY, I LOVE MY SISTER WIVES. 319 00:13:01,344 --> 00:13:02,758 WOULD I CHANGE IT? NO. 320 00:13:02,758 --> 00:13:04,965 NO, NO, NO, NO. I WOULDN'T CHANGE IT. 321 00:13:04,965 --> 00:13:07,586 BUT I REALLY LIKE BEING PUBLIC NOW, I'M JUST SAYING. 322 00:13:07,586 --> 00:13:11,034 I REALLY LIKE BEING A WIFE EVERYWHERE I GO. 323 00:13:11,034 --> 00:13:12,413 Janelle: LOOK, IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME UP TO ME AND ASK ME 324 00:13:12,413 --> 00:13:13,655 IF THEY SHOULD LIVE PLURAL MARRIAGE, 325 00:13:13,655 --> 00:13:15,000 I WOULD SAY "ABSOLUTELY." 326 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,034 BUT I WILL TELL YOU, THE FIRST... 327 00:13:18,034 --> 00:13:21,965 5 YEARS, 10 YEARS, MAYBE 20 YEARS, 328 00:13:21,965 --> 00:13:24,482 I DON'T KNOW, ARE NOT GONNA BE REALLY GREAT. 329 00:13:24,482 --> 00:13:27,758 ON THE BAD DAYS, I REALLY STRUGGLE WITH PLURAL MARRIAGE. 330 00:13:27,758 --> 00:13:30,551 ON THE BAD DAYS, I REALLY WONDER WHY WE'RE IN IT. 331 00:13:30,551 --> 00:13:31,724 Meri: I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF ANY OF OUR KIDS 332 00:13:31,724 --> 00:13:33,931 WANTED TO START A PLURAL FAMILY. 333 00:13:33,931 --> 00:13:36,310 IF THAT'S WHAT THEY THOUGH THEIR PATH WAS? 334 00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:40,137 GREAT. -ASPYN'S NOT OPEN TO IT. 335 00:13:40,137 --> 00:13:44,137 I WOULD BE, UNDER THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES. 336 00:13:44,137 --> 00:13:45,689 SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO... 337 00:13:45,689 --> 00:13:47,517 Christine: SHE'S ALL... 338 00:13:47,517 --> 00:13:50,275 ...GO TO ASPYN FIRST 339 00:13:50,275 --> 00:13:53,000 BEFORE I WOULD REALLY EVER CONSIDER IT. 340 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,793 I DON'T THINK I'M EVER GONNA THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR US, SO... 341 00:13:56,793 --> 00:14:01,000 I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL DO. 342 00:14:03,275 --> 00:14:04,655 SHE COUNTED TO THREE. 343 00:14:04,655 --> 00:14:06,275 SuChin: YEAH. [ LAUGHS ] 344 00:14:06,275 --> 00:14:08,379 BUT, IF ASPYN GETS ANY INSPIRATION 345 00:14:08,379 --> 00:14:10,034 ON THAT SUBJECT MATTER, YOU KNOW, 346 00:14:10,034 --> 00:14:14,000 MITCH IS KIND OF IN A POSITION THERE WHERE SHE'S LIKE, 347 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,551 "MM, I'M NOT REALLY AGREEING TO THIS." 348 00:14:15,551 --> 00:14:18,206 ASPYN ALWAYS SAID, "WHATEVER HAPPENS, HAPPENS." 349 00:14:18,206 --> 00:14:20,068 YOU KNOW, IF SHE'S GOING TO HAVE -- 350 00:14:20,068 --> 00:14:21,344 YOU KNOW, LIVE IN PLURAL MARRIAGE, 351 00:14:21,344 --> 00:14:22,689 THEN SHE'S GONNA LIVE IN PLURAL MARRIAGE, 352 00:14:22,689 --> 00:14:24,000 AND SHE'S ALWAYS SAID THAT. 353 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,517 BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE 354 00:14:25,517 --> 00:14:27,551 IS THAT SHE'S SO WHUPPED OVER THAT BOY. 355 00:14:27,551 --> 00:14:30,655 SHE IS SO SMITTEN. SO RIGHT NOW, SHE'S LIKE, "MNH-MNH!" 356 00:14:30,655 --> 00:14:33,206 WELL, YEAH, NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT PLURAL MARRIAGE 357 00:14:33,206 --> 00:14:34,827 WHEN THEY JUST FOUND THEIR SWEETHEART. 358 00:14:34,827 --> 00:14:36,137 Christine: RIGHT. 359 00:14:36,137 --> 00:14:37,655 MITCH IS LIKE, "WELL, I'M NOT CLOSING THE DOOR, 360 00:14:37,655 --> 00:14:38,965 BUT THIS IS..." 361 00:14:38,965 --> 00:14:41,931 I MEAN, SHE HAS THE TO BE THE VEHICLE IN SUCH A WAY. 362 00:14:41,931 --> 00:14:44,103 AND I WAS NEVER "CHASING" A GIRL. 363 00:14:44,103 --> 00:14:47,379 YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S THE VERY BIGGEST... 364 00:14:47,379 --> 00:14:51,586 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT, LIKE, A FAMILY COULD DO, 365 00:14:51,586 --> 00:14:54,586 IS HAVE THE WIFE BE THE INSTIGATOR. 366 00:14:54,586 --> 00:14:57,586 'CAUSE WHEN YOU START HAVING THE HUSBAND BE THE INSTIGATOR, 367 00:14:57,586 --> 00:15:00,448 IT JUST IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND DOESN'T WORK. 368 00:15:00,448 --> 00:15:01,827 CREEPY. 369 00:15:01,827 --> 00:15:04,068 WHEN YOU SAID THAT, I WAS LIKE, "OH! THAT'S A -- 370 00:15:04,068 --> 00:15:07,103 THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE," FRAMING IT THAT WAY, ISN'T IT? 371 00:15:07,103 --> 00:15:08,758 -YES, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. -GUYS LOOKING FOR WIVES? 372 00:15:08,758 --> 00:15:11,000 THAT'S CREEPY. -YEAH, BUT IT HAPPENS. 373 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,620 BUT IT DOES HAPPEN THAT WAY? OR NOT REALLY? 374 00:15:12,620 --> 00:15:13,965 SURE, IT HAPPENS. 375 00:15:13,965 --> 00:15:16,517 IT'S DISCOURAGED, HEAVILY DISCOURAGED IN OUR CULTURE. 376 00:15:16,517 --> 00:15:18,000 NO, NO. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OUR CHURCH, 377 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,172 THERE ARE MEN IN OUR CHURCH, 378 00:15:19,172 --> 00:15:21,310 THAT YOUNG WOMEN WILL STAY AWAY FROM 379 00:15:21,310 --> 00:15:23,793 BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE SEARCHERS. 380 00:15:23,793 --> 00:15:25,551 THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE LOOKING FOR WIVES. 381 00:15:25,551 --> 00:15:29,000 THEY'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF PARIAH IN A LOT OF THESE... 382 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,379 THE WOMEN THAT AREN'T MARRIED, THEY'RE LIKE, 383 00:15:30,379 --> 00:15:32,620 "OKAY, THAT GUY? NO. 384 00:15:32,620 --> 00:15:34,034 "HE'S LEFT HIS WIFE AT HOME, 385 00:15:34,034 --> 00:15:36,068 "HE'S HERE AT THIS SOCIAL GATHERING, 386 00:15:36,068 --> 00:15:38,586 "HE'S LOOKING FOR ANOTHER WIFE, LIKE, STAY AWAY FROM HIM. 387 00:15:38,586 --> 00:15:40,103 HE'S NOT HUSBAND MATERIAL." 388 00:15:40,103 --> 00:15:43,137 THAT'S ACTUALLY HOW THEY THINK IN OUR CULTURE. 389 00:15:43,137 --> 00:15:44,413 YEAH. 390 00:15:44,413 --> 00:15:45,896 IF SHE SEES ME LOOKING AT A GIRL, 391 00:15:45,896 --> 00:15:48,586 SHE MIGHT GO... [ CHUCKLES ] OR, "HEY!" 392 00:15:48,586 --> 00:15:50,103 BUT THAT'S ON HER. 393 00:15:50,103 --> 00:15:52,827 IF SHE -- IF SHE GOES, "I LIKE HER. WHAT DO YOU THINK?" 394 00:15:52,827 --> 00:15:55,344 THEN I'LL GO, "UH..." 395 00:15:55,344 --> 00:15:57,482 -SuChin: YEAH. -[ LAUGHING ] 396 00:15:57,482 --> 00:15:59,379 SuChin: MAYBE. 397 00:15:59,379 --> 00:16:02,827 -IS THAT A QUESTION? -IT HAPPENED. IT HAPPENED. 398 00:16:02,827 --> 00:16:05,965 MERI ELBOWED ME AND GOES... [ LAUGHS ] "SHE'S CUTE, HUH?" 399 00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:08,000 AND I WENT... [ GROANS ] 400 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,344 [ LAUGHTER ] 401 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:12,896 SHE WAS RIGHT. I GOT PRAYERFUL ABOUT IT. 402 00:16:12,896 --> 00:16:14,275 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, I KNEW. 403 00:16:14,275 --> 00:16:17,655 I KNEW BEFORE SHE KNEW, BUT SHE KNEW BEFORE I KNEW. 404 00:16:17,655 --> 00:16:21,000 BUT IT HAD TO REALLY COME FROM HER IN DRIVING THAT. 405 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,551 THERE WAS NO OTHER WAY THAT THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN. 406 00:16:23,551 --> 00:16:25,517 I MEAN, WHERE DO YOU LEARN THIS STUFF? 407 00:16:25,517 --> 00:16:27,275 DO YOU GO TO... IS THERE A CLASS? 408 00:16:27,275 --> 00:16:29,172 LIKE, IS THERE A PAMPHLET? -"POLYGAMY FOR DUMMIES," RIGHT? 409 00:16:29,172 --> 00:16:31,206 Kody: THEY GREW UP IN THE CULTURE, YOU KNOW? 410 00:16:31,206 --> 00:16:33,724 -NO CLASS. -IN LIVING PLURAL MARRIAGE, 411 00:16:33,724 --> 00:16:36,379 WE JUST REALLY ARE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER, GOING, 412 00:16:36,379 --> 00:16:39,137 "OKAY, WE'RE MAKING THIS WORK BUT THIS IS CRAZY." 413 00:16:39,137 --> 00:16:43,000 BUT WE ARE NOT IN ANY WAY RECOMMENDING PLURAL MARRIAGE. 414 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,724 -DON'T TRY IT AT HOME. -Kody: DON'T TRY IT AT HOME. 415 00:16:44,724 --> 00:16:48,241 WE JUST WANT TO BE ALLOWED TO DO IT OURSELVES, YOU KNOW? 416 00:16:48,241 --> 00:16:51,517 JANELLE, YOU SAID SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT HOW 417 00:16:51,517 --> 00:16:55,482 THE FIRST 5, 10, 20... -[ LAUGHING ] 418 00:16:55,482 --> 00:16:57,068 Christine: THAT SO FUNNY! 419 00:16:57,068 --> 00:16:59,448 SO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY -- 420 00:16:59,448 --> 00:17:01,344 SO HOW HAVE THE LAST FIVE YEARS BEEN FOR YOU? 421 00:17:01,344 --> 00:17:02,793 THEY BEEN OKAY? -YEAH, RIGHT? 422 00:17:02,793 --> 00:17:05,379 'CAUSE KODY AND I HAVE BEEN NOW MARRIED 25 YEARS. 423 00:17:05,379 --> 00:17:07,448 AH, 26. 26 YEARS. 424 00:17:07,448 --> 00:17:09,000 I THINK IT'S JUST DAY BY DAY. 425 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,275 'CAUSE EVERY FIVE YEARS, OR EVERY YEAR, YOU'RE LIKE, 426 00:17:11,275 --> 00:17:14,241 "WOW, LOOK AT ALL THAT, THAT WE LEARNED OR WE DID." 427 00:17:14,241 --> 00:17:15,241 IT'S ALWAYS AN EVOLUTION. 428 00:17:15,241 --> 00:17:16,827 IT'S A CONSTANT LEARNING PROCESS. 429 00:17:16,827 --> 00:17:19,137 YOU'RE WORKING OUT -- BASICALLY, YOU'RE WORKING YOUR STUFF OUT. 430 00:17:19,137 --> 00:17:20,413 WE'RE WORKING OUT THE PROBLEM IN THE GRIND 431 00:17:20,413 --> 00:17:22,068 OF THE CAULDRON OF MARRIAGE AND LOVE, YOU KNOW? 432 00:17:22,068 --> 00:17:23,620 YEAH, YOU'RE BEING REAL. YOU'RE BEING REAL. 433 00:17:23,620 --> 00:17:25,068 AND SO, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT REALLY IS KINDA LIKE, 434 00:17:25,068 --> 00:17:26,793 UP AND DOWN, AND UP AND DOWN, AND WHEN YOU LOOK BACK 435 00:17:26,793 --> 00:17:28,965 IT'S LIKE, WOW, THAT'S A HECK OF AN ADVENTURE. 436 00:17:28,965 --> 00:17:32,275 WATCHING IT, ANYONE THAT'S IN AN INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP 437 00:17:32,275 --> 00:17:33,896 WITH ANYONE IS LIKE, 438 00:17:33,896 --> 00:17:37,310 "MM-HMM, THAT'S RIGHT, 25, 30 -- KEEP GOIN', JANELLE," YOU KNOW? 439 00:17:37,310 --> 00:17:38,724 YEAH. 440 00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:41,379 POLYGAMY IS NOT CRIMINALIZED EVERYWHERE, 441 00:17:41,379 --> 00:17:44,103 BUT IT CERTAINLY ISN'T LEGAL ANYWHERE IN U.S. 442 00:17:44,103 --> 00:17:46,413 AND, CERTAINLY, THE MOMENT THAT SORT OF 443 00:17:46,413 --> 00:17:49,620 PINPOINTED THAT IN THIS SEASON WAS WHEN, 444 00:17:49,620 --> 00:17:51,965 CHRISTINE, YOU HAD LOOKED AT A MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE. 445 00:17:51,965 --> 00:17:54,275 -YEAH, WASN'T THAT CRAZY? -AND IT CAUGHT YOU BY -- 446 00:17:54,275 --> 00:17:57,344 IT CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD. IT CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD, YEAH. 447 00:17:57,344 --> 00:17:58,517 SO, I WANT TO ASK YOU, 448 00:17:58,517 --> 00:18:00,137 WHAT DOES A MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE MEAN? 449 00:18:00,137 --> 00:18:03,172 'CAUSE I THINK IT COULD MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS FOR EVERYONE. 450 00:18:03,172 --> 00:18:05,931 I LIKE THE VALIDATION OF BEING JUST MARRIED. 451 00:18:05,931 --> 00:18:08,034 I JUST LIKE IT. 452 00:18:08,034 --> 00:18:11,068 AND FOR YEARS, LIKE, WE WERE JUST QUIET. 453 00:18:11,068 --> 00:18:12,965 WE WERE JUST UNDER THE RADAR AND STUFF, 454 00:18:12,965 --> 00:18:15,103 AND WE WEREN'T A COUPLE EVERYWHERE WE WENT 455 00:18:15,103 --> 00:18:17,344 AND WE WEREN'T MARRIED EVERYWHERE WE WENT. 456 00:18:17,344 --> 00:18:22,482 AND SO IT HAS BEEN AWESOME BEING A WIFE EVERYWHERE I GO. 457 00:18:22,482 --> 00:18:25,689 FOR ME, I LOOK AT IT RETROSPECTIVELY AND I SAY, 458 00:18:25,689 --> 00:18:27,965 A LEGAL MARRIAGE WAS NECESSARY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO -- 459 00:18:27,965 --> 00:18:30,379 FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO ADOPT ROBYN'S CHILDREN. 460 00:18:30,379 --> 00:18:33,620 YEAH. ROBYN, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PAPER? 461 00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:35,137 UM... 462 00:18:35,137 --> 00:18:38,206 CHRISTINE BROUGHT IT UP, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW 463 00:18:38,206 --> 00:18:40,689 IF I HAVE MY PIECE OF PAPER. -SuChin: YEAH. 464 00:18:40,689 --> 00:18:42,862 Kody: YEAH, WE HAVE PEOPLE COME UP TO US ALL THE TIME. 465 00:18:42,862 --> 00:18:45,758 THEY GO TO THE WIVES AND, LIKE, THEY WANT TO KNOW THE ORDER. 466 00:18:45,758 --> 00:18:49,931 THEY WANT TO KNOW WHO HAS THE LEGITIMACY OUT OF THE FOUR. 467 00:18:49,931 --> 00:18:51,482 ONCE AGAIN -- -I NEVER SAY IT. 468 00:18:51,482 --> 00:18:53,000 I SAY, "ONE OF US HAS A LEGAL MARRIAGE." 469 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,413 I NEVER TELL THEM WHO. -YEAH. 470 00:18:54,413 --> 00:18:57,275 -'CAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER. -'CAUSE THEY PUT A STIGMA... 471 00:18:57,275 --> 00:19:01,000 CULTURE OUTSIDE OF US PUTS A STIGMA ON US 472 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,931 AND SAYS SOMEBODY, WHOEVER HAS THE LEGAL MARRIAGE LICENSE, 473 00:19:04,931 --> 00:19:08,827 HAS SOMETHING MORE THAN EVERYBODY ELSE. 474 00:19:08,827 --> 00:19:11,586 SuChin: ON THE FLIP SIDE, WE HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER 475 00:19:11,586 --> 00:19:13,620 THAT SAYS YOU'RE DIVORCED. 476 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:15,689 WHAT DOES THAT PIECE OF PAPER MEAN TO ALL OF YOU GUYS? 477 00:19:15,689 --> 00:19:16,758 AND I WANT TO START WITH MERI, 478 00:19:16,758 --> 00:19:18,137 AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO THE GROUP. 479 00:19:18,137 --> 00:19:20,413 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY, 480 00:19:20,413 --> 00:19:22,793 AND FOR ME, LIKE, SOME DAYS 481 00:19:22,793 --> 00:19:24,517 EMOTIONALLY, IT FEELS LIKE A FAILURE. 482 00:19:24,517 --> 00:19:26,758 IT'S A LABEL OF A FAILURE. 483 00:19:26,758 --> 00:19:29,586 IT'S SORT OF LIKE THAT PIECE OF PAPER, AGAIN, 484 00:19:29,586 --> 00:19:35,655 IT KIND OF LEAVES IT OPEN FOR SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THE FAMILY... 485 00:19:35,655 --> 00:19:37,655 -TO JUDGE. MM-HMM. YEAH. -...TO JUDGE, RIGHT? 486 00:19:37,655 --> 00:19:39,068 'CAUSE IT'S BOTH WAYS, RIGHT? 487 00:19:39,068 --> 00:19:41,862 BOTH PIECES OF PAPER... -IT'S DEFINITELY OPEN JUDGMENT. 488 00:19:41,862 --> 00:19:44,413 IN THIS SITUATION, IT'S NOT. 489 00:19:44,413 --> 00:19:46,758 BUT IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE LABELS THAT... 490 00:19:46,758 --> 00:19:47,965 IT'S A STRONG WORD. 491 00:19:47,965 --> 00:19:49,137 IT HAS A LOT OF EMOTION ATTACHED TO IT. 492 00:19:49,137 --> 00:19:51,310 YEAH, IT DOES. "DIVORCE" -- IT'S NEGATIVE. 493 00:19:51,310 --> 00:19:53,655 FOR THIS FAMILY, AND CERTAINLY FOR YOU GUYS, 494 00:19:53,655 --> 00:19:57,827 THAT PIECE OF PAPER DOESN'T HAVE THAT NEGATIVE STIGMA ATTACHED 495 00:19:57,827 --> 00:20:00,310 BECAUSE IT ALLOWED YOU TO SORT OF CREATE THIS FAMILY. 496 00:20:00,310 --> 00:20:01,965 AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING MERI THE OTHER DAY. 497 00:20:01,965 --> 00:20:04,931 I WAS LIKE, "YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, IT MEANS FAILURE. 498 00:20:04,931 --> 00:20:06,517 "'YOU'RE DIVORCED' IS... 499 00:20:06,517 --> 00:20:09,310 THAT MEANS YOU LOVE MY KIDS." 500 00:20:09,310 --> 00:20:10,827 YEAH. 501 00:20:10,827 --> 00:20:12,206 I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING 502 00:20:12,206 --> 00:20:15,379 IT'S NOT THE SITUATION IN OUR FAMILY -- 503 00:20:15,379 --> 00:20:19,068 IT'S JUST A LABEL THAT PEOPLE PUT ON IT, YOU KNOW? 504 00:20:19,068 --> 00:20:21,827 BECAUSE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROBYN HERE 505 00:20:21,827 --> 00:20:23,689 AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT HER FACE, 506 00:20:23,689 --> 00:20:26,517 IF YOU DON'T SEE YOUR RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THAT LOVE, 507 00:20:26,517 --> 00:20:29,620 THEN, WELL, YOU CAN JUST EXIT THE CONVERSATION. 508 00:20:29,620 --> 00:20:32,310 YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET IT. -RIGHT? 509 00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:33,758 COMING UP NEXT... 510 00:20:33,758 --> 00:20:36,068 Meri: SHE KIND OF WAS FRUSTRATED, 511 00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:39,137 AND IT CAUSED SOME TENSION BETWEEN THE TWO OF US 512 00:20:39,137 --> 00:20:41,896 DURING THIS WHOLE CATFISHING SITUATION. 513 00:20:41,896 --> 00:20:43,310 Mariah: SHE'S TRYING TO GET ME TO SEE 514 00:20:43,310 --> 00:20:45,724 THAT SHE'S COMPLETELY THE VICTIM. 515 00:20:45,724 --> 00:20:46,931 [ SIGHS HEAVILY ] 516 00:20:46,931 --> 00:20:48,758 FOR YOU, IT'S ABOUT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY. 517 00:20:48,758 --> 00:20:50,931 I LOVE HER, BUT THINGS HAVE BEEN HARD. 518 00:20:50,931 --> 00:20:52,241 AND LATER... 519 00:20:52,241 --> 00:20:53,758 PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A FULFILLING LIFE 520 00:20:53,758 --> 00:20:56,413 OUTSIDE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP AND THEIR MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP 521 00:20:56,413 --> 00:20:58,965 DON'T VERY OFTEN HAVE A FULFILLING LIFE 522 00:20:58,965 --> 00:21:00,758 INSIDETHEIR RELATIONSHIP. 523 00:21:00,758 --> 00:21:03,551 THE GOAL, I THINK, HAS BEEN TO LEARN TO BE FRANK. 524 00:21:03,551 --> 00:21:04,965 "IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE A PLURAL FAMILY 525 00:21:04,965 --> 00:21:06,275 THAT'S WHY YOU'RE DYSFUNCTIONAL." 526 00:21:06,275 --> 00:21:07,620 "POLYGAMY IS YOUR PROBLEM." 527 00:21:07,620 --> 00:21:09,379 Robyn: "YEAH, POLYGAMY IS YOUR PROBLEM." 528 00:21:11,965 --> 00:21:14,241 Woman: WHAT ARE YOU MOST LOOKING FORWARD TO TALKING ABOUT TODAY? 529 00:21:14,241 --> 00:21:16,000 Janelle: YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS LIKED TALKING ABOUT OUR KIDS, 530 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,758 BECAUSE I'M SUPER PROUD OF THEM 531 00:21:18,758 --> 00:21:21,586 AND THE HUMAN BEINGS THEY'VE BECOME AND ARE BECOMING. 532 00:21:21,586 --> 00:21:23,379 SO THAT'S A NO-BRAINER. THAT'S EASY. 533 00:21:23,379 --> 00:21:26,000 I'LL TALK ALL DAY LONG TO THE POINT WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, 534 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,034 "OKAY, I HEARD ENOUGH, I HEARD ENOUGH." 535 00:21:28,034 --> 00:21:29,620 -Mykelti: QUIET ON SET! -OH. 536 00:21:29,620 --> 00:21:31,551 -SuChin: OH, SORRY. -Mariah: OH, OH. 537 00:21:31,551 --> 00:21:32,620 SORRY, I JUST WANTED SEE IF THEY'D KEEP QUIET. 538 00:21:32,620 --> 00:21:34,620 -SHE'S HARD. -SHE'S JUDGING US. 539 00:21:34,620 --> 00:21:36,551 Man: ALL RIGHT, QUIET, PLEASE! 540 00:21:36,551 --> 00:21:38,310 EVERYBODY SETTLED? 541 00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:40,137 WELCOME BACK TO "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL." 542 00:21:40,137 --> 00:21:42,793 I'M SuCHIN PAK, HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, 543 00:21:42,793 --> 00:21:44,620 WITH THE ADULT BROWN KIDS. 544 00:21:44,620 --> 00:21:45,827 I LIKE SAYING THAT WITH GRAVITAS. 545 00:21:45,827 --> 00:21:47,310 -I LIKE IT. -HI, EVERYONE. 546 00:21:47,310 --> 00:21:48,517 -HI. -HI. 547 00:21:48,517 --> 00:21:49,655 IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOUR FACES AND MEET YOU. 548 00:21:49,655 --> 00:21:50,862 IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. 549 00:21:50,862 --> 00:21:52,586 SO, OBVIOUSLY BIG MOVE THIS YEAR. 550 00:21:52,586 --> 00:21:54,896 YOU GUYS DIDN'T ACTUALLY MOVE HERE TO FLAGSTAFF, 551 00:21:54,896 --> 00:21:57,655 BUT IT AFFECTS ALL OF THE FAMILY DYNAMICS. 552 00:21:57,655 --> 00:22:00,482 AND I WANT TO START WITH YOU GUYS, MADDIE AND CALEB. 553 00:22:00,482 --> 00:22:03,793 YOU MOVED TO VEGAS TO BE WITH YOUR FAMILY. 554 00:22:03,793 --> 00:22:05,034 YES. MM. 555 00:22:05,034 --> 00:22:07,068 TELL ME SORT OF ABOUT YOUR REACTION TO THAT 556 00:22:07,068 --> 00:22:09,068 AND HOW THAT HIT YOU AT FIRST. 557 00:22:09,068 --> 00:22:10,793 WELL, I THINK THAT WE DIDN'T BELIEVE IT WAS REAL, 558 00:22:10,793 --> 00:22:12,379 'CAUSE MY PARENTS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT MOVING. 559 00:22:12,379 --> 00:22:15,000 AND THEN THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT, LIKE, OF, LIKE, SADNESS 560 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,827 AND, LIKE, "WHY ARE YOU GUYS MOVING? 561 00:22:16,827 --> 00:22:18,724 WE HAVE YOUR GRANDKID," YOU KNOW? 562 00:22:18,724 --> 00:22:22,482 BUT I THINK IT ALSO MADE US FEEL, LIKE, OKAY -- 563 00:22:22,482 --> 00:22:23,931 BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE VEGAS, 564 00:22:23,931 --> 00:22:26,068 IT'S JUST NOT SOMEWHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL HOME. 565 00:22:26,068 --> 00:22:29,068 SO IT MADE US, LIKE, "OKAY, WELL, IF YOU GUYS ARE LEAVING, 566 00:22:29,068 --> 00:22:30,586 THEN WE'RE GONNA LEAVE, TOO." 567 00:22:30,586 --> 00:22:34,000 DID YOU GUYS ALL FEEL THAT VEGAS WAS NOT HOME? 568 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,448 -YEAH. -SuChin: NO ONE FELT THAT? 569 00:22:35,448 --> 00:22:36,758 -YEAH. -MM-HMM. 570 00:22:36,758 --> 00:22:37,896 SuChin: ANYONE IN THE FAMILY FELT LIKE VEGAS WAS HOME? 571 00:22:37,896 --> 00:22:39,586 -I, ACTUALLY, I -- -YEAH. 572 00:22:39,586 --> 00:22:41,689 -YOU'RE LIKE, "WELL..." -YEAH. 573 00:22:41,689 --> 00:22:44,586 I'M VERY MUCH ALL ABOUT MAKING WHEREVER YOU ARE WORK 574 00:22:44,586 --> 00:22:46,241 AND MAKING WHEREVER YOU ARE FEEL LIKE HOME. 575 00:22:46,241 --> 00:22:49,758 AND IT FELT LIKE HOME TO ME FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS. 576 00:22:49,758 --> 00:22:51,275 SO IT WAS KIND OF A SHOCK TO ME 577 00:22:51,275 --> 00:22:52,862 THAT IT WASN'T HOME FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. 578 00:22:52,862 --> 00:22:54,724 WE HAVE ALWAYS MOVED AROUND A LITTLE BIT, 579 00:22:54,724 --> 00:22:56,379 AND SO WE'RE KIND OF USED TO IT. -Mariah: YEAH. 580 00:22:56,379 --> 00:22:58,413 SO ANYWHERE THE FAMILY MOVES IS WHERE HOME IS. 581 00:22:58,413 --> 00:22:59,793 -YEAH. -YEAH. 582 00:22:59,793 --> 00:23:03,034 WE FELT THAT DURING THE SEASON, YOU SORT OF TOOK CONTROL, 583 00:23:03,034 --> 00:23:07,068 YOU KNOW, OF YOUR COURTSHIP. YOU SORT OF HAD A PRESENCE. 584 00:23:07,068 --> 00:23:09,275 I'D LIKE TO SAY "A WOMAN COMING INTO HER OWN." 585 00:23:09,275 --> 00:23:10,482 DO YOU LIKE THAT? -YEAH. 586 00:23:10,482 --> 00:23:12,172 YES, I DO, THAT'S NICE. 587 00:23:12,172 --> 00:23:13,862 BUT QUIETLY AND VERY RESPECTFULLY, 588 00:23:13,862 --> 00:23:17,241 AND I THINK WATCHING IT WAS REALLY INSPIRING, 589 00:23:17,241 --> 00:23:19,103 SO WE PUT A LITTLE CLIP TOGETHER. 590 00:23:19,103 --> 00:23:21,379 TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. 591 00:23:21,379 --> 00:23:24,034 WE'RE NOT FORCED TO NOT TALK ABOUT THE MOVE. 592 00:23:24,034 --> 00:23:26,620 WE'RE JUST SUPPOSED TO NOT STRESS OUT ABOUT THE MOVE. 593 00:23:26,620 --> 00:23:27,965 Christine: I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT MINIMAL. 594 00:23:27,965 --> 00:23:30,172 NO, NO, NO. WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT ME. 595 00:23:30,172 --> 00:23:32,827 ASPYN MET MITCH, LIKE, NINE YEARS AGO, 596 00:23:32,827 --> 00:23:35,034 AND SHE WAS NOT ON HIS RADAR AT ALL. 597 00:23:35,034 --> 00:23:38,379 AND THEN ABOUT NINE MONTHS AGO, ASPYN CALLED MITCH, 598 00:23:38,379 --> 00:23:41,862 AND SHE WAS IMMEDIATELY ON HIS RADAR AT THAT POINT. 599 00:23:41,862 --> 00:23:43,758 HE'S MOVING TO VEGAS TO BE WITH ME. 600 00:23:43,758 --> 00:23:46,724 [ LAUGHTER ] 601 00:23:46,724 --> 00:23:48,758 -WHAT DID YOU SAY? -WHOO! 602 00:23:48,758 --> 00:23:52,137 SO YOU'RE GONNA DO LONGER OR REALLY SLOW? 603 00:23:52,137 --> 00:23:54,862 -WELL, JUST FOR NOW. -OH, OKAY. [ LAUGHS ] 604 00:23:54,862 --> 00:23:57,137 -AW. -AW. 605 00:23:57,137 --> 00:24:00,862 IT'S STILL A BIT OF A PECK, BUT BETTER. 606 00:24:00,862 --> 00:24:02,724 I GET STRESSED OUT ABOUT THE WHOLE IDEA AND -- 607 00:24:02,724 --> 00:24:04,241 WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT FLAGSTAFF 608 00:24:04,241 --> 00:24:05,620 DURING THIS WEEKEND, ACTUALLY. 609 00:24:05,620 --> 00:24:07,896 YES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 610 00:24:07,896 --> 00:24:09,724 I THINK, LIKE, IF ALL THE MOMS ARE AVAILABLE, 611 00:24:09,724 --> 00:24:11,206 WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THE MOMS HERE. 612 00:24:11,206 --> 00:24:12,827 CAN YOU DO THAT, PLEASE? -YOU WANT THEM ALL HERE? 613 00:24:12,827 --> 00:24:14,275 -YES, I DO. -OKAY. 614 00:24:14,275 --> 00:24:16,310 Christine: FOR HER TO ASK US ALL TO HELP HER PUT ON THE DRESS 615 00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:20,931 WAS SO SWEET. -Meri: IT WAS REALLY SWEET. 616 00:24:20,931 --> 00:24:23,241 YOU'RE GONNA LOSE IT WHEN YOU SEE HER. 617 00:24:23,241 --> 00:24:24,413 ♪♪ 618 00:24:24,413 --> 00:24:25,689 [ LAUGHS ] I LOVE YOU. 619 00:24:25,689 --> 00:24:28,586 -[ CRYING ] -[ LAUGHING ] 620 00:24:28,586 --> 00:24:29,689 ♪♪ 621 00:24:29,689 --> 00:24:31,482 Mitch: SHE LOOKED SO AMAZING, 622 00:24:31,482 --> 00:24:35,068 AND I WAS JUST SO HAPPY AND JUST COULDN'T WAIT. 623 00:24:35,068 --> 00:24:39,241 [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] 624 00:24:39,241 --> 00:24:40,758 SuChin: ASPYN, YOU'RE GETTING MARRIED 625 00:24:40,758 --> 00:24:44,620 AND YOU'RE TAKING SORT OF MORE OWNERSHIP OF YOUR VOICE, 626 00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:48,413 AND YOU AS A WOMAN NOW, DID YOU FEEL THAT? 627 00:24:48,413 --> 00:24:53,482 I DEFINITELY DID SO DURING THE VENUE TOURS. I DIDN'T TAL-- 628 00:24:53,482 --> 00:24:55,310 LIKE, THE LAST VENUE, I BARELY EVER TALKED, 629 00:24:55,310 --> 00:24:57,413 AND MITCH BARELY EVER TALKED 'CAUSE EVERYONE WAS KIND OF, 630 00:24:57,413 --> 00:24:58,689 YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING ALL THEIR OPINIONS. 631 00:24:58,689 --> 00:25:01,517 AND I WAS LIKE, "YOU KNOW, I GOTTA BE LOUDER." 632 00:25:01,517 --> 00:25:03,275 Mariah: [ SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY ] IT'S TIME. 633 00:25:03,275 --> 00:25:05,206 YES, YOU JUST HAVE TO JUST -- 634 00:25:05,206 --> 00:25:08,068 I HAVE TO BE ASSERTIVE AND SAY WHAT I WANT. 635 00:25:08,068 --> 00:25:10,310 THIS IS OUR WEDDING, AND I WANT IT TO BE A CERTAIN WAY, 636 00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:13,517 AND I NEED EVERYONE TO REALIZE THAT. 637 00:25:13,517 --> 00:25:17,068 MITCH, THIS IS A FAMILY THAT HAS 638 00:25:17,068 --> 00:25:19,482 SOME STRONG WOMEN 639 00:25:19,482 --> 00:25:23,413 AND VOCAL WOMEN AND WOMEN WITH OPINIONS. 640 00:25:23,413 --> 00:25:27,655 IS THAT INTIMIDATING OR IS THAT TRICKY TO NAVIGATE OR DEAL WITH? 641 00:25:27,655 --> 00:25:30,172 NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S HARD TO DEAL WITH. 642 00:25:30,172 --> 00:25:32,931 I JUST KIND OF GO ALONG WITH THE FLOW, 643 00:25:32,931 --> 00:25:35,448 AND IT'S REALLY NOT A PROBLEM. 644 00:25:35,448 --> 00:25:36,724 TONY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? 645 00:25:36,724 --> 00:25:38,172 I THINK IT'S REFRESHING. 646 00:25:38,172 --> 00:25:39,275 -YEAH? -YES. 647 00:25:39,275 --> 00:25:41,275 Mariah: I LOVE THAT. I LOVE THAT ANSWER. 648 00:25:41,275 --> 00:25:43,034 EXPAND ON THAT. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? 649 00:25:43,034 --> 00:25:44,413 IT'S JUST NICE TO SEE. 650 00:25:44,413 --> 00:25:47,758 I MEAN, WHEN I MET CHRISTINE -- HERE'S AN EXAMPLE -- 651 00:25:47,758 --> 00:25:49,206 SHE WAS JUST LIKE, "YOU KNOW WHAT? 652 00:25:49,206 --> 00:25:53,137 I CAN DRIVE ANYTHING. WATCH ME DRIVE A SEMI THROUGH YOUR FACE." 653 00:25:53,137 --> 00:25:55,896 [ LAUGHTER ]YEAH, AND I WAS LIKE, "OKAY." 654 00:25:55,896 --> 00:25:57,275 -OKAY. -"THAT'S COOL." 655 00:25:57,275 --> 00:25:58,724 Mykelti: ALL RIGHT. 656 00:25:58,724 --> 00:26:01,482 AND IT'S JUST NOT -- IT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHERE I GREW UP, 657 00:26:01,482 --> 00:26:03,896 WHERE ALL THE GIRLS ARE A LOT MORE, 658 00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:05,379 "NO, YOUHAVE TO DRIVE." 659 00:26:05,379 --> 00:26:06,724 IT'S REFRESHING. IT'S NICE. 660 00:26:06,724 --> 00:26:08,827 CALEB, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MARRYING INTO A FAMILY 661 00:26:08,827 --> 00:26:11,448 WITH VERY STRONG FEMALE VOICES? 662 00:26:11,448 --> 00:26:13,413 I THINK IT'S AWESOME, ACTUALLY, TO BE HONEST. 663 00:26:13,413 --> 00:26:17,241 'CAUSE, AT LEAST, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, 664 00:26:17,241 --> 00:26:21,241 I ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY ARE THINKING 665 00:26:21,241 --> 00:26:23,413 INSTEAD OF ME TRYING FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE THINKING. 666 00:26:23,413 --> 00:26:24,758 I DON'T -- -OH, THE MIND-READING THING. 667 00:26:24,758 --> 00:26:26,241 YEAH, I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT THAT. 668 00:26:26,241 --> 00:26:28,655 I HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT YOU GUYS CAN'T MIND RE-- RIGHT, OKAY. 669 00:26:28,655 --> 00:26:30,275 -YEAH, YEAH. -OKAY, MENTAL NOTE, YEAH. 670 00:26:30,275 --> 00:26:31,862 I DON'T MINCE WORDS, SO I'LL BE LIKE, 671 00:26:31,862 --> 00:26:34,448 "THIS IS WHY I'M MAD -- A, B, AND C -- 672 00:26:34,448 --> 00:26:36,310 AND YOU NEED TO FIX IT," SO... 673 00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:39,310 AND I LOVE IT, BECAUSE IF I MARRIED SOMEBODY 674 00:26:39,310 --> 00:26:41,793 THAT DIDN'T TELL ME THEIR OPINION OR ANYTHING, 675 00:26:41,793 --> 00:26:43,655 I'D BE BORED, ACTUALLY, TO BE HONEST. 676 00:26:43,655 --> 00:26:45,827 SO WHEN SHE'S LIKE, "LISTEN, THIS IS WHAT I THINK," 677 00:26:45,827 --> 00:26:47,827 IT'S LIKE, "ALL RIGHT, THAT'S AWESOME. 678 00:26:47,827 --> 00:26:49,758 GOOD. THANK YOU." 679 00:26:49,758 --> 00:26:53,137 ALL RIGHT, SO, MARIAH, YOUR MOM'S CATFISHING... 680 00:26:53,137 --> 00:26:55,758 -[ SIGHS HEAVILY ] -...IT IS AND HAS BEEN 681 00:26:55,758 --> 00:26:57,275 A SOURCE OF TENSION FOR YOU GUYS. 682 00:26:57,275 --> 00:27:01,862 AND EVEN THIS YEAR, SHE SORT OF ALMOST NEEDED EVEN MORE CLOSURE. 683 00:27:01,862 --> 00:27:04,103 RIGHT? AND SO SHE BROUGHT A FRIEND ALONG 684 00:27:04,103 --> 00:27:05,620 WHO HAD ALSO BEEN CATFISHED 685 00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:08,034 TO SORT OF HELP YOU SEE THE OTHER SIDE 686 00:27:08,034 --> 00:27:09,793 OR GET YOU TO SEE THE OTHER SIDE. 687 00:27:09,793 --> 00:27:12,724 BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THAT WENT DOWN. 688 00:27:12,724 --> 00:27:15,000 PUPPY! [ GROANS ] PUPPIES. 689 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,103 I JUST KIND OF HAVE THESE HOPES 690 00:27:18,103 --> 00:27:21,793 OF MAYBE JUST HEARING, 691 00:27:21,793 --> 00:27:24,310 YOU KNOW, THIS STORY FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE, 692 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:27,172 YOU KNOW, ANOTHER PERSON THAT IT HAPPENED TO, 693 00:27:27,172 --> 00:27:30,724 MAYBE IT'LL HELP HER REALLY LET GO OF IT. 694 00:27:30,724 --> 00:27:34,172 SHE KIND OF WAS A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED, 695 00:27:34,172 --> 00:27:39,379 AND IT CAUSED SOME TENSION BETWEEN THE TWO OF US, 696 00:27:39,379 --> 00:27:42,655 YOU KNOW, DURING THIS WHOLE CATFISHING SITUATION. 697 00:27:42,655 --> 00:27:45,827 I THINK THAT SHE FORGETS I WAS THERE 698 00:27:45,827 --> 00:27:47,310 WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS HAPPENING, 699 00:27:47,310 --> 00:27:50,724 AND I EXPLICITLY SAID TO HER, "YOU CAN BE TRICKED ONLINE, 700 00:27:50,724 --> 00:27:52,862 BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE." 701 00:27:52,862 --> 00:27:54,482 LIKE, EVEN RIGHT NOW, I'M GETTING KIND OF EMOTIONAL, 702 00:27:54,482 --> 00:27:58,448 BECAUSE, LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO BE ANGRY AT HER. 703 00:27:58,448 --> 00:28:00,620 [ SNIFFLES ] THAT'S WHY I JUST MOVED ON. 704 00:28:00,620 --> 00:28:02,344 SHE'S TRYING TO GET ME TO SEE 705 00:28:02,344 --> 00:28:04,655 THAT SHE'S COMPLETELY THE VICTIM. 706 00:28:04,655 --> 00:28:08,206 I LOVE HER, AND I AM SORRY FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO HER, 707 00:28:08,206 --> 00:28:11,758 BUT SHE'S STILL PLAYED A PART IN THIS. 708 00:28:11,758 --> 00:28:15,172 OKAY, SO, WHERE DO THINGS STAND BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR MOM? 709 00:28:15,172 --> 00:28:17,241 HOW ARE YOU GUYS? 710 00:28:17,241 --> 00:28:20,068 LIKE, THINGS HAVE BEEN HARD, OBVIOUSLY. 711 00:28:20,068 --> 00:28:23,793 THINGS AREN'T PERFECT, BUT THINGS AREN'T HORRIBLE. 712 00:28:23,793 --> 00:28:25,793 LIKE, WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP, 713 00:28:25,793 --> 00:28:27,034 AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MATTERS. 714 00:28:27,034 --> 00:28:28,310 -YEAH. -YOU KNOW? 715 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:29,758 SHE'S MY MOM, AND I LOVE HER. 716 00:28:29,758 --> 00:28:33,931 AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BASIS OF IT, SO... 717 00:28:33,931 --> 00:28:37,344 YEAH, AND I THINK IF THERE WASN'T A LOT OF LOVE 718 00:28:37,344 --> 00:28:40,965 AND REACHING TOWARDS SOMETHING REALLY GREAT, 719 00:28:40,965 --> 00:28:42,137 THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY TENSION. 720 00:28:42,137 --> 00:28:43,655 -RIGHT. -RIGHT? 721 00:28:43,655 --> 00:28:45,137 'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T REALLY CARE, THEN YOU'D BE LIKE, 722 00:28:45,137 --> 00:28:46,344 "I DON'T REALLY CARE." -RIGHT. 723 00:28:46,344 --> 00:28:48,103 BUT YOU DO. YOU GUYS LOVE EACH OTHER. 724 00:28:48,103 --> 00:28:50,103 WHAT I WILL SAY, ACTUALLY, IS THAT SHE -- 725 00:28:50,103 --> 00:28:51,689 I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A KID -- ONE TIME, 726 00:28:51,689 --> 00:28:53,482 HER AND DAD GOT IN A FIGHT, AND I WAS JUST, LIKE, A LITTLE KID 727 00:28:53,482 --> 00:28:55,034 AND LIKE, "OHH, MY PARENTS ARE IN A FIGHT. 728 00:28:55,034 --> 00:28:56,206 THEY'RE GONNA GET A DIVORCE." 729 00:28:56,206 --> 00:28:57,551 AND I SAID THAT TO HER, AND SHE GOES, 730 00:28:57,551 --> 00:28:59,448 "WE WOULDN'T FIGHT IF WE DIDN'T LOVE EACH OTHER." 731 00:28:59,448 --> 00:29:01,620 RIGHT? LIKE, IF WE DIDN'T LOVE EACH OTHER, 732 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:02,793 IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW? 733 00:29:02,793 --> 00:29:03,931 -MM-HMM. -WE WOULD JUST BE LIKE, 734 00:29:03,931 --> 00:29:05,103 "OKAY. WHATEVER." -YEAH. 735 00:29:05,103 --> 00:29:06,413 AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT IS. 736 00:29:06,413 --> 00:29:12,137 LIKE, YOU KNOW, I LOVE HER, AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW? 737 00:29:12,137 --> 00:29:13,448 YEAH. YEAH. 738 00:29:13,448 --> 00:29:15,620 DO YOU THINK THAT IT DID HELP IN SEEING HER SIDE, 739 00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:17,862 HAVING HER FRIEND THERE, AND TELLING YOU, 740 00:29:17,862 --> 00:29:19,275 "LISTEN, THIS HAPPENED TO ME"? 741 00:29:19,275 --> 00:29:21,206 IT WASN'T SOMETHING I DIDN'T BELIEVE HAPPENED. 742 00:29:21,206 --> 00:29:23,724 IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T SYMPATHIZE WITH. 743 00:29:23,724 --> 00:29:26,379 SO, FOR ME, I DIDN'T REALLY NEED TO MEET HER FRIEND. 744 00:29:26,379 --> 00:29:28,448 AND WHEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT, WE HAD, LIKE, 745 00:29:28,448 --> 00:29:30,965 SUPPORTED THE IDEA BECAUSE WE KNEW HOW MUCH IT MEANT TO MERI 746 00:29:30,965 --> 00:29:33,379 FOR US TO HEAR THAT, LIKE, SHE WAS NOT ALONE IN THIS. 747 00:29:33,379 --> 00:29:34,586 YEAH. RIGHT. 748 00:29:34,586 --> 00:29:35,862 AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING 749 00:29:35,862 --> 00:29:37,206 TO BE, LIKE, REASSURED OF, LIKE, YOU ARE NOT ALONE. 750 00:29:37,206 --> 00:29:38,586 RIGHT, YEAH. 751 00:29:38,586 --> 00:29:39,758 LIKE, THIS IS A -- YOU KNOW? SO I FEEL LIKE THAT, LIKE, 752 00:29:39,758 --> 00:29:41,241 WE WERE LIKE, "WE WILL MEET HER." 753 00:29:41,241 --> 00:29:44,172 I THINK YOU DID, THOUGH, TOUCH ON A PART OF WHERE 754 00:29:44,172 --> 00:29:48,413 THIS TENSION WAS, WHICH WAS THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, RIGHT, 755 00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:51,551 FOR YOU, IT'S ABOUT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY. 756 00:29:51,551 --> 00:29:54,827 [ SIGHS HEAVILY ] 757 00:29:54,827 --> 00:29:58,103 SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, I HAVE PERSONALLY FOUND A LOT OF GROWTH 758 00:29:58,103 --> 00:30:00,689 FROM BEING ABLE TO SEE... 759 00:30:00,689 --> 00:30:03,551 NOT EVEN WHERE I WAS WRONG NECESSARILY, JUST LIKE -- 760 00:30:03,551 --> 00:30:05,793 IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AN ISSUE. 761 00:30:05,793 --> 00:30:07,586 IT'S LIKE "OKAY, WELL, THAT'S WHERE I WAS WRONG. 762 00:30:07,586 --> 00:30:10,862 I WAS WRONG. I'VE NOW GROWN FROM THIS." 763 00:30:10,862 --> 00:30:12,862 -YEAH. -AND I'VE MOVED ON. 764 00:30:12,862 --> 00:30:14,172 COMING UP NEXT... 765 00:30:14,172 --> 00:30:15,758 WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO CHICAGO. 766 00:30:15,758 --> 00:30:17,448 WOW! THAT'S BIG! 767 00:30:17,448 --> 00:30:20,448 IS THERE ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT? 768 00:30:20,448 --> 00:30:22,413 MAYBE. 769 00:30:22,413 --> 00:30:23,586 AND LATER... 770 00:30:23,586 --> 00:30:25,206 ROBYN, JANELLE WANTS A HUG. 771 00:30:25,206 --> 00:30:26,551 OH. OH, REALLY? 772 00:30:26,551 --> 00:30:28,896 SHE WANTS TO -- IT'S A BIG DEAL. IT'S A BIG DEAL. 773 00:30:28,896 --> 00:30:31,517 YOU GUYS LOVE EACH OTHER, YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE FINE. 774 00:30:31,517 --> 00:30:35,275 RISE ABOVE IT, BE A BETTER PERSON, AND GET OVER YOUR CRAP. 775 00:30:37,103 --> 00:30:38,275 WELCOME BACK TO "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL." 776 00:30:38,275 --> 00:30:39,620 I'M SuCHIN PAK. 777 00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:41,862 MARIAH, YOU HAD A VERY BIG YEAR. 778 00:30:41,862 --> 00:30:45,344 YOU GOT INTO GRADUATE SCHOOL. YOU MOVED TO CHICAGO. 779 00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:48,517 LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THIS BIG YEAR. 780 00:30:48,517 --> 00:30:52,379 MARIAH'S PLANNING ON STARTING A MASTER'S DEGREE IN THE FALL. 781 00:30:52,379 --> 00:30:54,241 AT THIS POINT, THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO, 782 00:30:54,241 --> 00:30:56,413 BUT I TOLD THEM IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE 783 00:30:56,413 --> 00:30:58,103 TO JUST COME HERE FOR THE SUMMER -- 784 00:30:58,103 --> 00:31:00,172 MAY AS WELL BE HERE, SPEND SOME TIME WITH THE FAMILY. 785 00:31:00,172 --> 00:31:02,862 WE WANTED TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER 786 00:31:02,862 --> 00:31:05,620 BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SUPER FUN ANNOUNCEMENT. 787 00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:08,344 MY WHEELS ARE TURNING. LIKE, I'M THINKING, "WHAT COULD IT BE? 788 00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:10,068 WHAT COULD IT BE?" 789 00:31:10,068 --> 00:31:11,344 I'M JUST SAYING WHAT WE'RE ALL THINKING. 790 00:31:11,344 --> 00:31:12,689 WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT IT'S MARRIAGE. 791 00:31:12,689 --> 00:31:14,137 I'M JUST SAYING. WE'RE ALL THINKING. 792 00:31:14,137 --> 00:31:15,620 THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL THINKING. 793 00:31:15,620 --> 00:31:16,896 Kody: I HAVE ONE CONCERN 794 00:31:16,896 --> 00:31:19,034 ABOUT AUDREY AND MARIAH GETTING MARRIED. 795 00:31:19,034 --> 00:31:21,034 I THINK AUDREY IS THE FIRST PERSON 796 00:31:21,034 --> 00:31:23,379 THAT MARIAH'S EVER DATED. JUST -- 797 00:31:23,379 --> 00:31:25,103 DO YOU KNOW? THAT'S ALL. 798 00:31:25,103 --> 00:31:28,034 DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE THE FIRST PERSON I DATED? 799 00:31:28,034 --> 00:31:31,068 YEAH, YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON I DATED, TOO. 800 00:31:31,068 --> 00:31:33,172 [ LAUGHTER ]I TAKE THAT BACK. 801 00:31:33,172 --> 00:31:34,551 I...I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 802 00:31:34,551 --> 00:31:36,758 -I MEAN, I'M JUST -- -IT'S NOT AN ANNOUNCEMENT. 803 00:31:36,758 --> 00:31:39,379 IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. -IT IS KIND OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT. 804 00:31:39,379 --> 00:31:41,379 OKAY, AFTER WE'RE HERE FOR THE SUMMER, 805 00:31:41,379 --> 00:31:43,620 WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO CHICAGO.[ CHEERING ] 806 00:31:43,620 --> 00:31:45,137 OKAY. [ LAUGHS ] -Janelle: YOU GOT INTO LOYOLA? 807 00:31:45,137 --> 00:31:49,103 -I GOT INTO LOYOLA. -OH! YAY! 808 00:31:49,103 --> 00:31:50,896 WOW! THAT'S BIG! 809 00:31:50,896 --> 00:31:52,896 I KNOW YOU ALL PROBABLY THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE, BUT... 810 00:31:52,896 --> 00:31:54,482 -THAT'S ONE MORE STEP... -YEP. 811 00:31:54,482 --> 00:31:58,241 ...IN THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. -[ LAUGHS ] 812 00:31:58,241 --> 00:32:02,275 ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT WASN'T THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THEY -- 813 00:32:02,275 --> 00:32:04,241 THEY WERE HAPPY FOR YOU GUYS, FOR SURE. 814 00:32:04,241 --> 00:32:05,413 YEAH. IT WAS A LITTLE DEAD. 815 00:32:05,413 --> 00:32:07,758 -BUT THEY WERE LIKE, "OH. OKAY." -YEAH. 816 00:32:07,758 --> 00:32:11,344 SuChin: SO IS THERE ANOTHERANNOUNCEMENT? 817 00:32:11,344 --> 00:32:12,517 -MAYBE. -MAYBE? 818 00:32:12,517 --> 00:32:14,344 -YEAH. [ LAUGHS ] -TELL US. 819 00:32:14,344 --> 00:32:15,793 SO AUDREY AND I ARE ENGAGED. 820 00:32:15,793 --> 00:32:18,758 YAY! THEY'RE ENGAGED OFFICIALLY! 821 00:32:18,758 --> 00:32:20,689 [ GASPS ] LET'S SEE. 822 00:32:20,689 --> 00:32:21,931 HAVE YOU GUYS ALL SEEN THE RING YET? 823 00:32:21,931 --> 00:32:23,068 -YES. -YES. 824 00:32:23,068 --> 00:32:24,862 LET'S SEE. TWIN-- AND, OKAY, DETAILS. 825 00:32:24,862 --> 00:32:26,241 Mariah: I DID IT AT THE WOMEN'S MARCH 826 00:32:26,241 --> 00:32:28,586 BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF FIRST STARTED DATING 827 00:32:28,586 --> 00:32:31,896 AND IT WAS JUST KIND OF, LIKE, A SPECIAL THING FOR BOTH OF US 828 00:32:31,896 --> 00:32:33,172 SO I WANTED TO DO IT THERE. 829 00:32:33,172 --> 00:32:35,137 AND IT WAS REALLY FUNNY, BECAUSE SHE ACTUALLY 830 00:32:35,137 --> 00:32:38,620 KEPT TALKING THE WHOLE TIME I WAS TRYING TO PROPOSE. 831 00:32:38,620 --> 00:32:41,275 SHE WAS LIKE, "I DIDN'T KNOW! I DIDN'T KNOW! I DIDN'T KNOW!" 832 00:32:41,275 --> 00:32:43,103 AND THEN, LIKE, I PUT THE RING ON, 833 00:32:43,103 --> 00:32:44,965 AND THEN I GOT UP AND KISSED HER 834 00:32:44,965 --> 00:32:46,931 AND THEN SOMEONE'S LIKE, "DID SHE SAY 'YES'?!" 835 00:32:46,931 --> 00:32:48,482 AND WE REALIZED SHE HADN'T YET. 836 00:32:48,482 --> 00:32:49,655 AND THEN SHE -- -I WAS JUST GOING... 837 00:32:49,655 --> 00:32:50,896 I JUST DID THIS THE WHOLE TIME. 838 00:32:50,896 --> 00:32:52,241 AND THEN SHE JUST WAS NODDING THE WHOLE TIME. 839 00:32:52,241 --> 00:32:53,413 LIKE, "UH-HUH, UH-HUH." -CONGRATULATIONS, YOU GUYS. 840 00:32:53,413 --> 00:32:54,655 THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 841 00:32:54,655 --> 00:32:57,137 SO THERE WOULD BE, I IMAGINE, A LOT OF VIEWERS 842 00:32:57,137 --> 00:33:00,793 WHO SEE THIS SORT OF AS DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED. 843 00:33:00,793 --> 00:33:02,000 -MM-HMM. -RIGHT? 844 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,620 YOU HAVE A VERY CONSERVATIVE RELIGION, 845 00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:07,586 BUT THEN YOU HAVE THIS SORT OF WORLD VIEW THAT'S LIBERAL. 846 00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:09,000 Mariah: MM-HMM. 847 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,862 HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT? OR HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT? 848 00:33:10,862 --> 00:33:12,896 WELL, I'M PERSONALLY NOT VERY RELIGIOUS. 849 00:33:12,896 --> 00:33:14,137 SuChin: YEAH. 850 00:33:14,137 --> 00:33:15,344 IT'S MORE JUST, LIKE, KIND OF HOW I GREW UP. 851 00:33:15,344 --> 00:33:16,551 SuChin: BUT EVEN YOUR FAMILY, THOUGH, YEAH. 852 00:33:16,551 --> 00:33:17,862 YEAH, BUT I THINK, UM... 853 00:33:17,862 --> 00:33:19,068 I MEAN, EVEN MY FAMILY, LIKE, THEY'RE JUST VERY... 854 00:33:19,068 --> 00:33:21,724 -MM-HMM. -...ACCEPTING. 855 00:33:21,724 --> 00:33:22,931 -YEAH. -LIKE, IT'S, LIKE, 856 00:33:22,931 --> 00:33:24,206 "YOU DO YOUR THING, I'LL DO MY THING." 857 00:33:24,206 --> 00:33:25,620 DOES IT EVER GET TRICKY? 858 00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:28,827 I THINK GROWING UP IN THE FAMILY THAT WE DID, WE'RE SO DIFFERENT, 859 00:33:28,827 --> 00:33:32,551 IT KIND OF MADE FOR US TO BE LIKE, "WELL, WHATEVER." 860 00:33:32,551 --> 00:33:33,793 YOU KNOW? -YEAH. 861 00:33:33,793 --> 00:33:35,379 LIKE, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR LIFE 862 00:33:35,379 --> 00:33:37,379 AND YOU'RE HAPPY WHERE YOU'RE AT, YOUR LIFE IS YOUR LIFE. 863 00:33:37,379 --> 00:33:40,655 IT'S NOT AFFECTING -- IF IT'S NOT AFFECTING ANYONE ELSE. 864 00:33:40,655 --> 00:33:42,068 JESUS SAID LOVE EVERYONE. 865 00:33:42,068 --> 00:33:43,310 -I MEAN, OUR FAMILY -- -All: JESUS SAID LOVE EVERYONE. 866 00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:45,034 EXACTLY, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR DAD HAS ALWAYS SAID, SO... 867 00:33:45,034 --> 00:33:47,931 YEAH, THAT'S WHAT HE'S ALWAYS -- YEAH, WE GREW UP BEING TOLD, 868 00:33:47,931 --> 00:33:51,896 LIKE, THAT WE LOVE GOD AND WE LOVE OTHERS. YOU KNOW? 869 00:33:51,896 --> 00:33:54,103 AND THAT'S KIND OF, LIKE, THE BASIC... 870 00:33:54,103 --> 00:33:55,275 THAT'S WHAT MATTERS. -YEAH. 871 00:33:55,275 --> 00:33:57,931 OKAY, SO I WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO THE GROUP 872 00:33:57,931 --> 00:34:00,620 AS WE'RE WINDING DOWN THIS CONVERSATION 873 00:34:00,620 --> 00:34:04,344 AND SEE JUST HOW EVERYBODY IS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING. 874 00:34:04,344 --> 00:34:07,413 I WANT TO GET TO MYKELTI AND TONY. ANY NEWS? 875 00:34:07,413 --> 00:34:09,827 WHEN ARE THE BABIES COMING?[ LAUGHTER ] 876 00:34:09,827 --> 00:34:12,000 ALSO, WHEN ARE THE BABIES COMING? 877 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,758 I'M SURE YOU GUYS GET ASKED THAT ALL THE TIME IN THIS FAMILY. 878 00:34:14,758 --> 00:34:19,103 WE'RE VERY HAPPY DOG PARENTS RIGHT NOW. 879 00:34:19,103 --> 00:34:20,172 YES. 880 00:34:20,172 --> 00:34:21,655 SO, WE HAVE A BABY BOY NAMED SPADER. 881 00:34:21,655 --> 00:34:22,965 HE'S -- HE'S LOVELY AND ADORABLE. 882 00:34:22,965 --> 00:34:24,655 HE LOVES HIS MOM AND DAD. -SuChin: YEAH. 883 00:34:24,655 --> 00:34:26,689 AND THAT'S, LIKE -- THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOOD RIGHT NOW. 884 00:34:26,689 --> 00:34:29,931 WE'RE PROBABLY STILL A COUPLE, SEVERAL YEARS OUT FROM KIDS. 885 00:34:29,931 --> 00:34:32,448 ASPYN AND MITCH, SO WHERE ARE YOU GUYS? 886 00:34:32,448 --> 00:34:35,000 AND ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR... 887 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,379 WE ARE FINISHING OUT THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS IN VEGAS, 888 00:34:39,379 --> 00:34:41,655 AND THEN WE'LL BE MOVING TO NORTHERN UTAH 889 00:34:41,655 --> 00:34:43,482 TO BE CLOSER TO MITCH'S FAMILY. 890 00:34:43,482 --> 00:34:44,758 I'M FINISHING UP SCHOOL. 891 00:34:44,758 --> 00:34:46,482 THAT'S WHAT I'M FOCUSING ON RIGHT NOW. 892 00:34:46,482 --> 00:34:48,931 WE'RE HAVING FUN ENJOYING OUR FIRST YEAR TOGETHER... 893 00:34:48,931 --> 00:34:51,517 -MM-HMM. MM-HMM. -...AS A MARRIED COUPLE. 894 00:34:51,517 --> 00:34:53,275 AND -- AND... 895 00:34:53,275 --> 00:34:55,379 THAT'S IT! CONGRATULATIONS! 896 00:34:55,379 --> 00:34:57,448 YES, YES, EXACTLY. EXACTLY, YEAH. 897 00:34:57,448 --> 00:34:59,103 AND YOU'RE LIKE, "THAT'S IT." 898 00:34:59,103 --> 00:35:00,275 -THAT'S A LOT. -THAT'S THE WAY. 899 00:35:00,275 --> 00:35:01,655 YEAH, WE DON'T -- YEAH. 900 00:35:01,655 --> 00:35:03,344 MADDIE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOU GUYS? 901 00:35:03,344 --> 00:35:04,827 -[ LAUGHS ] -NOTHING NEW. 902 00:35:04,827 --> 00:35:05,931 NAH, NOT A LOT. 903 00:35:05,931 --> 00:35:07,758 NOT A WHOLE LOT. NOTHING, REALLY. 904 00:35:07,758 --> 00:35:10,034 SuChin: JUST, LIKE, A LITTLE SOMETHING? 905 00:35:10,034 --> 00:35:13,482 UM, SO WE ARE MOVING TO NORTH CAROLINA. 906 00:35:13,482 --> 00:35:14,586 SuChin: MM-HMM. 907 00:35:14,586 --> 00:35:17,517 AND WE ARE EXPECTING OUR SECOND CHILD. 908 00:35:17,517 --> 00:35:18,793 [ GIGGLES ] 909 00:35:18,793 --> 00:35:20,965 SuChin: UM, THAT'S EXCITING. 910 00:35:20,965 --> 00:35:22,620 CONGRATULATIONS. -THANK YOU. 911 00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:25,379 WELL, THANK YOU, GUYS. IT WAS REALLY FUN TO CATCH UP. 912 00:35:25,379 --> 00:35:27,448 AND THANK YOU FOR OPENING UP YOUR LIVES. 913 00:35:27,448 --> 00:35:28,793 AND IT'S JUST REALLY FUN. 914 00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:30,206 -THANK YOU. -SO THANK YOU. 915 00:35:30,206 --> 00:35:33,103 -THANK YOU. -WHEN WE COME BACK... 916 00:35:33,103 --> 00:35:35,758 I'M QUESTIONING WHETHER YOU'RE THERE WITH US EMOTIONALLY. 917 00:35:35,758 --> 00:35:37,965 WE REALLY WANT TO WORK OUT THESE RELATIONSHIPS. 918 00:35:37,965 --> 00:35:39,206 I THINK WE'RE ALL PRETTY VULNERABLE. 919 00:35:39,206 --> 00:35:41,758 OH, YEAH.I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS LIKE THAT. 920 00:35:41,758 --> 00:35:43,586 I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS MISBEHAVING. 921 00:35:43,586 --> 00:35:46,793 AND JUST BE LIKE, "OH, MY GOSH." -OVER AND OVER AND OVER. 922 00:35:48,965 --> 00:35:51,068 SuChin: THIS IS SUCH AN EXCITING AND INTERESTING CONVERSATION 923 00:35:51,068 --> 00:35:53,586 TO BE HAVING WITH A FAMILY LIKE THE BROWNS. 924 00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:57,068 PEOPLE HAVE MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT WHAT A PLURAL FAMILY LOOKS LIKE. 925 00:35:57,068 --> 00:35:59,655 THE FAMILY, IT'S JUST, AT THE CORE OF IT, 926 00:35:59,655 --> 00:36:00,896 THEY LOVE EACH OTHER. 927 00:36:00,896 --> 00:36:03,413 AND THAT FAMILY BOND IS SOMETHING 928 00:36:03,413 --> 00:36:05,758 THAT EVERYONE CAN RELATE TO. 929 00:36:05,758 --> 00:36:08,965 Man: CAMERAS ARE ROLLING IN 3, 2... 930 00:36:08,965 --> 00:36:11,000 WE'RE BACK WITH "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL." 931 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,586 I'M SuCHIN PAK. 932 00:36:12,586 --> 00:36:15,137 SO CLEARLY THE RELATIONSHIPS IN A PLURAL FAMILY 933 00:36:15,137 --> 00:36:16,689 HAVE TO BE WELL-TENDED. 934 00:36:16,689 --> 00:36:18,448 AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ALL SEE A THERAPIST, 935 00:36:18,448 --> 00:36:19,586 WHICH I THINK IS GREAT. 936 00:36:19,586 --> 00:36:21,827 IT'S SORT OF THE BACKBONE OF THE WAY 937 00:36:21,827 --> 00:36:24,655 THAT COMMUNICATION CAN HAPPEN IN A CLEAR WAY. 938 00:36:24,655 --> 00:36:27,586 WE DO NOTICE THAT THERE IS A CERTAIN WAY OF SPEAKING -- 939 00:36:27,586 --> 00:36:29,517 A THERAPY WAY OF SPEAKING. 940 00:36:29,517 --> 00:36:32,517 AND WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD SORT OF ROLL A TAPE TO SHOW... 941 00:36:32,517 --> 00:36:34,275 -OH, NO. -...HOW THIS COMMUNICATION 942 00:36:34,275 --> 00:36:36,137 SEES ITSELF IN YOUR GUYS' LIFE. 943 00:36:36,137 --> 00:36:37,413 -TAKE A LOOK. -OH, NO. 944 00:36:37,413 --> 00:36:39,000 -LOOK HOW FUNNY. -THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING. 945 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,724 FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS HOW I FEEL. 946 00:36:41,724 --> 00:36:44,241 TO ME, MY PERCEPTION, SHE COMES IN THE ROOM 947 00:36:44,241 --> 00:36:45,448 AND SHE'S REALLY HEAVY. 948 00:36:45,448 --> 00:36:48,034 I FELT SO EMOTIONALLY INVESTED. 949 00:36:48,034 --> 00:36:50,689 I'M QUESTIONING WHETHER YOU'RE THERE WITH US EMOTIONALLY. 950 00:36:50,689 --> 00:36:52,344 THE ONLY THING I CAN FIX IS ME. 951 00:36:52,344 --> 00:36:55,931 SORRY FOR MY PART IN... 952 00:36:55,931 --> 00:36:57,310 HOW UNSAFE IT WAS. 953 00:36:57,310 --> 00:36:59,827 THAT MAKES IT A MUCH SAFER PLACE. 954 00:36:59,827 --> 00:37:02,965 I WANT TO HELP YOU FEEL SAFE. YOU DIDN'T FEEL SAFE. 955 00:37:02,965 --> 00:37:04,137 I JUST WANT TO BE IN A SAFE PLACE. 956 00:37:04,137 --> 00:37:05,344 THE WAY THAT YOU FEEL SAFE 957 00:37:05,344 --> 00:37:06,551 IS BY GETTING TO KNOW THE OTHER PERSON MORE. 958 00:37:06,551 --> 00:37:08,275 WE MOVED ON, OR ARE WE STUFFING IT? 959 00:37:08,275 --> 00:37:09,758 I DON'T THINK WE'RE STUFFING. 960 00:37:09,758 --> 00:37:11,586 Meri: I'M LIKE, "YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M TAKING MY POWER BACK." 961 00:37:11,586 --> 00:37:13,551 MERI... 962 00:37:13,551 --> 00:37:14,931 FELT EMPOWERED. 963 00:37:14,931 --> 00:37:16,379 PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A FULFILLING LIFE 964 00:37:16,379 --> 00:37:17,931 OUTSIDE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP -- 965 00:37:17,931 --> 00:37:20,172 IN THEIR MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP -- DON'T... 966 00:37:20,172 --> 00:37:23,758 VERY OFTEN HAVE A FULFILLING LIFE INSIDETHEIR RELATIONSHIP. 967 00:37:23,758 --> 00:37:25,206 IT'S REALLY ABOUT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. 968 00:37:25,206 --> 00:37:26,758 ROBYN, JANELLE WANTS A HUG. 969 00:37:26,758 --> 00:37:28,000 OH! OH, REALLY? 970 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,482 -SHE WANTS US -- -IT'S A BIG DEAL. 971 00:37:29,482 --> 00:37:30,862 IT'S A BIG DEAL. 972 00:37:30,862 --> 00:37:32,827 I DON'T KNOW WHY I DID THAT. MAYBE IT WAS REALLY -- 973 00:37:32,827 --> 00:37:34,793 I WAS PRACTICING MY SKILLS WITH NANCY. 974 00:37:34,793 --> 00:37:36,413 LIKE, DON'T ASSUME, ASK. 975 00:37:36,413 --> 00:37:39,344 AND MAYBE I WAS IN THAT REALLY GOOD PLACE. I DON'T KNOW. 976 00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:40,551 [ LAUGHTER ] 977 00:37:40,551 --> 00:37:41,827 THAT IS AWESOME! 978 00:37:41,827 --> 00:37:43,620 LISTEN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT WAS SUPPOSED 979 00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:45,172 TO BE A FUNNY SEGMENT. -OH, REALLY? 980 00:37:45,172 --> 00:37:46,620 SuChin: BUT WE JUST, LIKE, GIGGLED THROUGH THAT WHOLE THING. 981 00:37:46,620 --> 00:37:48,827 -NO, IT'S AWESOME. -IT'S FUNNY TO MAKE -- 982 00:37:48,827 --> 00:37:50,482 I HOPE THAT OUR FAMILY COUNSELOR, 983 00:37:50,482 --> 00:37:52,689 NANCY HUNTERTON, SEES THAT AND SAYS, "WHAT?!" 984 00:37:52,689 --> 00:37:54,827 Christine: SHE'S GONNA LOVE IT. SHE'S GONNA LOVE IT. 985 00:37:54,827 --> 00:37:58,827 YEAH. BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, OR SEMI-SERIOUSNESS, 986 00:37:58,827 --> 00:38:00,620 IS THAT REALLY THE LANGUAGE 987 00:38:00,620 --> 00:38:03,724 THAT I-I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE LEARNED FROM NANCY 988 00:38:03,724 --> 00:38:05,206 IN THE SESSIONS THAT YOU GUYS DO TOGETHER. 989 00:38:05,206 --> 00:38:06,586 SORT OF TALK ABOUT THAT. 990 00:38:06,586 --> 00:38:08,793 NANCY DOESN'T TRAIN US WITH LANGUAGE, NECESSARILY. 991 00:38:08,793 --> 00:38:11,965 NANCY TRAINS US A VERY DIFFERENT WAY, I THINK. 992 00:38:11,965 --> 00:38:15,620 AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT, 993 00:38:15,620 --> 00:38:18,689 THE GOAL, I THINK, HAS BEEN TO LEARN TO BE FRANK 994 00:38:18,689 --> 00:38:20,034 AND STILL BE KIND. -MM. 995 00:38:20,034 --> 00:38:22,310 NANCY WOULD BE LIKE, "OKAY, GET OVER YOUR CRAP." 996 00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:23,827 -YEAH. -PRETTY MUCH. 997 00:38:23,827 --> 00:38:26,517 LIKE, SHE'S PRETTY MUCH LIKE, "LIKE, YOU GUYS LOVE EACH OTHER. 998 00:38:26,517 --> 00:38:27,931 "YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE FINE. 999 00:38:27,931 --> 00:38:29,689 "RISE ABOVE IT, BE A BETTER PERSON, 1000 00:38:29,689 --> 00:38:32,275 AND FORGET WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST," SO... 1001 00:38:32,275 --> 00:38:34,586 I'VE BEEN REALLY GLAD THAT WE'VE HAD SOMEONE 1002 00:38:34,586 --> 00:38:37,724 WHO COULD GIVE US THOSE SKILLS, EVEN IF THEY COME ACROSS FUNNY, 1003 00:38:37,724 --> 00:38:39,689 'CAUSE WE DO USE THAT LANGUAGE WITH EACH OTHER. 1004 00:38:39,689 --> 00:38:41,000 WE DO. 1005 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,137 WE FEEL LIKE THAT WE'RE SORT OF WINNING 1006 00:38:42,137 --> 00:38:43,758 BY STICKING IT OUT AND FIGURING IT OUT. 1007 00:38:43,758 --> 00:38:45,655 AND I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR US. 1008 00:38:45,655 --> 00:38:47,482 I THINK OUR RELATIONSHIPS ARE DEEPER. 1009 00:38:47,482 --> 00:38:49,379 BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE IN THE PUBLIC EYE, 1010 00:38:49,379 --> 00:38:51,758 BOY, IT'S HELD RIGHT UP THERE, AND YOU SEE YOURSELF 1011 00:38:51,758 --> 00:38:55,551 AND YOU SEE HOW YOU ACT AND YOU RELIVE IT AND YOU RELIVE IT. 1012 00:38:55,551 --> 00:38:58,068 I THINK CULTURALLY, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO KIND OF 1013 00:38:58,068 --> 00:38:59,896 HOLD OURSELVES, HOLD IN OUR EMOTIONS, 1014 00:38:59,896 --> 00:39:01,310 AND KIND OF WORK IT OUT WITH GOD. 1015 00:39:01,310 --> 00:39:03,896 AND I THINK IT WAS STARTING TO SHOW 1016 00:39:03,896 --> 00:39:06,000 A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO MUCH INTO THE FAMILY. 1017 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,344 AND WHERE WE'RE NOW, LIKE, OPEN, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE WORRIED 1018 00:39:09,344 --> 00:39:11,758 ABOUT, LIKE... 'CAUSE IN THE PAST, 1019 00:39:11,758 --> 00:39:13,586 IF THE PLURAL FAMILY WOULD GO INTO, 1020 00:39:13,586 --> 00:39:17,137 LIKE, A THERAPIST'S OFFICE, THEY WOULD IMMEDIATELY BE TOLD, 1021 00:39:17,137 --> 00:39:18,310 "IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE A PLURAL FAMILY. 1022 00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:19,448 THAT'S WHY YOU'RE DYSFUNCTIONAL." 1023 00:39:19,448 --> 00:39:20,689 -MM. -"POLYGAMY IS YOUR PROBLEM." 1024 00:39:20,689 --> 00:39:22,310 YEAH, "POLYGAMY IS YOUR PROBLEM." 1025 00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:23,724 AND NOW IT'S, LIKE, BECAUSE WE'RE MORE OPEN, 1026 00:39:23,724 --> 00:39:26,793 IT'S, LIKE, PEOPLE...I FEEL SAFER TO GO TO A THERAPIST. 1027 00:39:26,793 --> 00:39:29,310 WE REALLY WANT TO WORK OUT THESE RELATIONSHIPS. 1028 00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:35,034 I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE JUST SAW THAT WE KNOW HOW TO SPEAK, 1029 00:39:35,034 --> 00:39:37,896 IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IF WE ACTUALLY WILL DO THAT 1030 00:39:37,896 --> 00:39:40,379 TO HAVE THOSE DEEP CONVERSATIONS 1031 00:39:40,379 --> 00:39:43,310 THAT SOMETIMES JUST NEED TO BE HAD. 1032 00:39:43,310 --> 00:39:44,655 SuChin: I FEEL LIKE IN SMALLER FAMILIES, 1033 00:39:44,655 --> 00:39:46,379 YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH A BIT MORE. 1034 00:39:46,379 --> 00:39:50,517 BUT IN THIS SETTING, IT'S HARD I THINK, TO SORT OF... 1035 00:39:50,517 --> 00:39:53,310 'CAUSE SOMEONE ELSE MAY CATCH WHAT ANOTHER PERSON 1036 00:39:53,310 --> 00:39:54,758 DIDN'T CATCH AND NOT LET THAT SLIDE. 1037 00:39:54,758 --> 00:39:57,172 I THINK YOU'RE MORE ACCOUNTABLE. YOU HAVE TO BE MORE ACCOUNTABLE. 1038 00:39:57,172 --> 00:39:59,344 -MM-HMM. -'CAUSE YOU'RE SO VULNERABLE. 1039 00:39:59,344 --> 00:40:00,586 I THINK WE'RE ALL PRETTY VULNERABLE. 1040 00:40:00,586 --> 00:40:01,896 OH, YEAH. NO, NO, NO, WE ARE. 1041 00:40:01,896 --> 00:40:04,793 AND IT'S, LIKE, THIS SHOW MAKES YOU VULNERABLE, TOO. 1042 00:40:04,793 --> 00:40:06,275 Robyn: MM-HMM. 1043 00:40:06,275 --> 00:40:08,586 LIKE, YOU'LL WATCH EPISODES OF YOURSELF AND JUST BE LIKE, 1044 00:40:08,586 --> 00:40:11,275 "OH, MY GOSH." -OVER AND OVER AND OVER. 1045 00:40:11,275 --> 00:40:13,241 "I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS LIKE THAT. 1046 00:40:13,241 --> 00:40:15,000 "I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS MISBEHAVING. 1047 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,275 THAT'S JUST UGH." YOU'RE JUST VULNERABLE. 1048 00:40:18,275 --> 00:40:20,517 WELL, WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO SOMETHING LIGHTER 1049 00:40:20,517 --> 00:40:22,034 AND, HOPEFULLY, FUNNIER. 1050 00:40:22,034 --> 00:40:25,551 KODY... [ CLEARS THROAT ] YOUR DANCE MOVES. 1051 00:40:25,551 --> 00:40:26,724 -OH! -SuChin: RIGHT? 1052 00:40:26,724 --> 00:40:28,172 YOU'RE NOT AFRAID TO LET EVERYONE KNOW 1053 00:40:28,172 --> 00:40:29,655 THAT YOU GOT MOVES. 1054 00:40:29,655 --> 00:40:32,551 SO LET'S SEE SOME OF THOSE MOVES IN ACTION. SHALL WE, KODY? 1055 00:40:32,551 --> 00:40:34,172 -ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? -I DON'T REALLY HAVE MOVES. 1056 00:40:34,172 --> 00:40:35,517 YOU KNOW THAT. I JUST DON'T BELIEVE 1057 00:40:35,517 --> 00:40:36,793 ANYBODY'S WATCHING, SO I DANCE LIKE I FEEL. 1058 00:40:36,793 --> 00:40:38,413 -OH, WE'RE ALL WATCHING. -HE'S GOT MOVES. 1059 00:40:38,413 --> 00:40:39,517 -WE'RE WATCHING. -I GOT MOVES? 1060 00:40:39,517 --> 00:40:40,620 -MM-HMM. -MM. 1061 00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:41,862 WE'RE HAVING A DANCE OFF. 1062 00:40:41,862 --> 00:40:43,965 IT WON'T BE A COMPETITION FOR ME, 1063 00:40:43,965 --> 00:40:46,379 BECAUSE I WON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE IS THERE. 1064 00:40:46,379 --> 00:40:47,724 TRUE. 1065 00:40:47,724 --> 00:40:49,068 'CAUSE WHEN I DANCE, I'M DANCING WITH MYSELF. 1066 00:40:49,068 --> 00:40:51,655 -YEAH, ME TOO. -[ IMITATING DANCE BEAT ] 1067 00:40:51,655 --> 00:40:53,241 Kody's voice: ♪ PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT ♪ 1068 00:40:53,241 --> 00:40:54,413 ♪ PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT ♪ 1069 00:40:54,413 --> 00:40:56,517 I DANCE LIKE NOBODY'S WATCHING. 1070 00:40:56,517 --> 00:40:58,034 ♪ PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT ♪ -YEAH. 1071 00:40:58,034 --> 00:40:59,620 ♪ PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT ♪ 1072 00:40:59,620 --> 00:41:01,413 ARE WE DANCING? 1073 00:41:01,413 --> 00:41:03,793 ♪ PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT ♪ 1074 00:41:03,793 --> 00:41:05,379 -Woman: OH, MY GOSH! -Kody: ARE WE DANCING? 1075 00:41:05,379 --> 00:41:07,000 ♪ PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT ♪ 1076 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,793 [ Auto-tuned voice ] WE ARE GOING TO INTRODUCE YOU 1077 00:41:08,793 --> 00:41:11,862 TO THE BROWN FAMILY MOSH PIT. 1078 00:41:11,862 --> 00:41:13,448 ♪ PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT ♪ 1079 00:41:13,448 --> 00:41:15,000 ♪ PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT ♪ 1080 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,620 ♪ PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT ♪ 1081 00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:17,827 ♪ PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT ♪ 1082 00:41:17,827 --> 00:41:19,758 -THIS WASN'T THE DANCE OFF. -I KNOW. 1083 00:41:19,758 --> 00:41:21,862 I LITERALLY DON'T WANT TO DO A DANCE OFF WITH HANNAH. 1084 00:41:21,862 --> 00:41:23,068 [ LAUGHS ] 1085 00:41:23,068 --> 00:41:24,137 -SuChin: I LOVE IT. -THAT WAS FUN. 1086 00:41:24,137 --> 00:41:25,655 THAT WAS FUN. 1087 00:41:25,655 --> 00:41:29,620 NOW WHO OUT OF THE BROWN CLAN WOULD YOU SAY 1088 00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:31,931 IS THE BEST DANCER? 1089 00:41:31,931 --> 00:41:33,586 -KODY. -WELL, THERE'S DIFFERENT STYLES. 1090 00:41:33,586 --> 00:41:35,896 YOU DON'T THINK SO? OH, I THOUGHT HE -- MM. 1091 00:41:35,896 --> 00:41:37,551 THAT WAS A COMPLETE BROWN NOSE. 1092 00:41:37,551 --> 00:41:39,000 -Christine: NO, NO. -[ ROBYN LAUGHING ] 1093 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,896 I'VE DANCED WITH HIM BEFORE. 1094 00:41:40,896 --> 00:41:43,103 I'VE DANCE WITH HIM BEFORE, AND THERE WAS -- 1095 00:41:43,103 --> 00:41:44,448 HIS FAVORITE THING WAS, 1096 00:41:44,448 --> 00:41:46,206 "WHY DON'T YOU JUST STAND THERE MOVING A LITTLE, 1097 00:41:46,206 --> 00:41:50,551 AND I'LL DANCE ALL AROUND YOU LIKE CRAZY?" 1098 00:41:50,551 --> 00:41:52,103 I FEEL LIKE WHEN HE SAID, 1099 00:41:52,103 --> 00:41:54,206 "EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT STYLES," 1100 00:41:54,206 --> 00:41:57,172 HE WAS REFERRING TO YOUR BEST GO-TO DANCE MOVE, 1101 00:41:57,172 --> 00:41:58,448 WHICH IS WHAT? 1102 00:41:58,448 --> 00:42:00,689 [ LAUGHS ] I CAN MIMIC HER SIGNATURE DANCE MOVE. 1103 00:42:00,689 --> 00:42:02,620 NO, PLEASE. PLEASE MIMIC IT. PLEASE. 1104 00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:04,103 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOURS. -I DON'T KNOW. 1105 00:42:04,103 --> 00:42:06,862 SHE DOES THIS LITTLE THING ONCE IN A WHILE WHERE SHE'S... 1106 00:42:06,862 --> 00:42:08,965 [ LAUGHTER ] 1107 00:42:08,965 --> 00:42:11,482 -YOU GOT TO KNOW LITERALLY -- -THIS IS THE ONLY TIME 1108 00:42:11,482 --> 00:42:13,965 I CRY, IT'S WHEN I LAUGH. 1109 00:42:13,965 --> 00:42:15,482 I DO LIKE TO FLIT. 1110 00:42:15,482 --> 00:42:16,931 CHRISTINE DOES THIS, WHERE SHE'S... 1111 00:42:16,931 --> 00:42:19,586 AND SHE THEN SHE FAKE CRIES. -I'M REALLY GOOD AT THAT. 1112 00:42:19,586 --> 00:42:21,724 SuChin: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GUYS. 1113 00:42:21,724 --> 00:42:22,931 HAD A GREAT TIME. -YEAH. 1114 00:42:22,931 --> 00:42:25,275 I LAUGHED, I CRIED, I GOT IT ALL OUT. 1115 00:42:25,275 --> 00:42:27,137 AND IT WAS JUST -- IT WAS SUCH A PLEASURE 1116 00:42:27,137 --> 00:42:29,103 TO SPEND TIME WITH YOU GUYS. 1117 00:42:29,103 --> 00:42:30,448 IT WAS AN HONOR. -THANK YOU. 1118 00:42:30,448 --> 00:42:32,793 -WELL, THANK YOU. IT WAS GREAT. -SO THANK YOU, GUYS.