- Tonight "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills"
reunion concludes.
- And you kept pushing, and you kept pushing
and worrying about yourself.
- I wasn't worried about only myself.
- But I just--what did I say? - "Crystal, you were quiet.
"Kyle, you were a kiss-ass. Dorit, you were duplicitous.
Why didn't any of you ask the tough question?"
Who believes Erika did not know anything
about what Tom was doing?
- Can someone please back me up the (BLEEP) up
on what I'm saying?
- It lands differently when there are air-crash victims.
- It's not doing any favors with Instagram.
- It's feeding the fire.
- Again, here you are looking at me rolling your eyes.
- You're a piece of work.
- I loved my husband.
Now, he's allegedly defrauding widows,
orphans, and burn victims.
How the (BLEEP) do you think I feel?
- You asked him if he did it? - I asked him why am I--
why--
[tense music]
♪
[intriguing music]
- Who believes Erika did not
know anything about what Tom was doing?
- I don't think she knew. - I--I've never thought
that she knew. - I really never thought
that she knew. - I never thought she knew.
- I don't think Tom Girardi told her anything.
- But I--I have a question which has bothered me.
Where's your anger towards him?
- You think I don't have any because you haven't seen it?
- No, I'm just asking. - Or I haven't shown enough
----ing anger here today?
What do you want me to do? I'm very angry.
Hear it in my voice, all right? Am I angry now enough for you?
- When the women ask you questions
that seem fairly reasonable, you lash out at them.
- Absolutely, I'm lashing out at everyone, Andy.
And why wouldn't I?
- But if people don't understand what's going on,
then why isn't it normal for them to ask the question?
- Because I tell you the truth. - I understand, but you're--
you're biting people's heads off--
- If you were being accused of doing all of these things--
- I would be furious-- - Then thank you.
- But if it was my friends asking me, I would try
to make them understand without isolating them.
- Well, I haven't isolated them.
- You just bit Crystal's head off.
- She just told me I wasn't angry enough.
- She was asking you if you're angry at him
because she didn't know.
- Because she didn't feel it.
- No, because you haven't-- - No, because we didn't see it.
- No, because I have-- hold on a second.
Because I haven't shown it in the way
that everyone wants me to?
- It's not about how everyone wants you to.
It's about what people's understanding is.
- So now it's too much? - I'm just saying
I don't think these women are asking you questions
in a way that they're against you.
- I do. - I think they're trying--
- You do? - You do?
- I think some are and some aren't.
Look, at Kyle's dinner,
I was very controlled about what I said.
I found out we have $50 to $80 million cash that's gone.
We did? That was in "The LA Times"
article that you so thoroughly read.
And I was very hurt by what I saw you say--
I don't believe it, I'm not buying it.
- It looks fishy.
Erika made a deal with the devil,
and the devil always comes knocking.
- How do you think that makes me feel?
You guys know me. You can read all of it.
Talk to me about it.
[all speaking at once] - We've tried.
- We have questions, and I don't want you to take that
as not caring about you.
- We tried. - But then when we do,
this is the reaction.
And I have to tell you, you have bitten their head off.
- Dorit, would you like to be called a liar?
- No, of course not. - Would you like to be
in the position I am, where I am getting sued every day
for all of these incredible things
and be constantly piled on, and the people closest to you
are, like, well, you made a deal with the devil.
Well, we don't know. Well, there's this--
like, hold on you guys. - But she's not the person
closest to you, she's not, okay?
She said it. - No, but you are,
and you and your husband and you and your husband
were just having a great old time
laughing at my ----ed up life.
- We don't know what he had. - Let's not do the prank.
Let's focus on the act, right? - [laughs]
- He's not a ----ing soccer player.
He's a lawyer.
- No, we weren't. - No, and I--
First of all, I want to apologize for that dinner...
- You did. - But I can't control
what comes out of their mouths.
I really can't and I felt very bad.
- And you know what? I can't control
what Tom Girardi did, okay?
- I know--we all know that. - Yes, yes, but--
- Everybody knows that. - Or did not do.
- When it first came out, ladies,
that people were alleging
that Erika's divorce was somehow a sham,
what was going through your minds?
- I never thought the divorce was a sham.
- I didn't either. - Right.
- No, I definitely never thought that.
- And then when you heard about what Tom was allegedly doing?
- Shocking. - This was the thing, we--
- Shocking. - The "LA Times" article
that we talk about--and no, that wasn't the gospel.
It was just the first time that we had learned
about totally new developments about these alleged atrocities.
Erika left. She wasn't there.
All of a sudden, this article came out
and we're all trying to process it.
- I think I'm gonna home.
Got some things I need to take care of anyway.
- Yeah.
- The Boeing victims were not paid.
There's not only orphans involved,
there's a burn victim.
- 'Cause it said that he's been running his business
like a Ponzi scheme.
It was less than 24 hours that Sutton had asked
to meet at my house.
And there were-- emotions were high
because we didn't have the answers.
Everything I believed about Erika's life
is actually the diametrical opposite.
- I don't want my name in an article
that's associated with Erika.
- I'm here if you've lost all your money,
I'm here if your husband cheated on you,
but if there's any connection, you know--
- Yes, like, (BLEEP) you. - Like, if you knew
what was going on here, I need to know that.
- And your reaction to that meeting was what?
- Why didn't you have me there? You should have had me there.
- So Dorit brings up a good point,
which is that you had just left them--
- Yeah, so it's easier to talk behind my back
instead of including me in a conversation about--
- Well, but it's also hard when you left,
because of something I asked, and then yet--
so therefore, do we come back to you and ask again?
I don't even think anybody thought
about bringing you in honestly.
- Kenny from New Orleans said,
"Erika, you said you live off credit cards.
"When did you realize Tom was having money troubles?
Was one of your cards rejected?"
- Um, in 2020, yeah. I was on Broadway.
- You were on Broadway? - Yeah.
- And were you like--
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- Did any of you hear that Tom
was having money problems before?
- Um, I had heard something.
Yeah. - You had?
- Yeah, but I didn't know if it's true,
like everything else. - Go ahead and say what it is.
- Andy knows as much as I do.
- What do you know? - Sorry, Andy.
- We had heard something
from the same person a few years ago.
- And what was it?
- That he was in financial trouble.
- Why wouldn't you come to me and tell me?
- I thought it was gossip honestly,
'cause, like, they seem fine to me.
- It didn't even register like--I was like--
- Right, to a lot of people it didn't register also.
When the firm filed and when everything happened,
there were many lawyers that would call me and say,
God, I thought Girardi Keese was healthy.
- Many questions wanting to know
how are you paying right now for your glam.
- You just told me you paid me a lot of money--
earlier segment. - So that's--
- So there you go. - I know what you make
on this show.
It ain't bad. Okay--
- Yeah, you just told me you paid me a lot of money.
- So you're spending your money--
- Like everyone else here, yes. - Right.
Um, there were a lot of people on Twitter,
including Camille Grammer, who think that you deliberately
chose not to wear waterproof mascara on your hike with Kyle.
- Sorry, I know there's snot coming out my nose.
I don't even care anymore.
- [sighs] Erika.
- [sighs]
- Jamie from Albany said,
"I'm not buying the pity party or your acting.
"We all know you always wear waterproof mascara.
"Did you skip it because you were going
for the sympathy vote?"
- No, absolutely not.
And that's not true at all.
- Do you always wear waterproof mascara,
as someone who knows nothing about it?
- Yes, I always do
because I have allergies with my eyes.
And that day I did not.
And you can see me patting my face.
Look, if I-- if I rub my face,
it's gonna be all-- I'm gonna have a black face.
But that is not true.
And I don't need anyone's sympathy.
And I don't need anyone's pity.
And I certainly don't need someone from the side
who's no longer on this show
to put in their two cents, okay?
- I agree with that. - Let me be very clear here.
That happened. It was--
you know, look, I didn't want it to happen.
- Why did you not wear waterproof mascara
on that day if you always--
- I was gonna say you have many different makeup artists.
So maybe that day-- - It was just--
it was a fluke and that is all it was.
And I'm not looking for the sympathy vote.
- Lots of reports about Tom being disbarred
by the California Federal Court.
- Yes. - He's moved
to an assisted living facility.
Have you spoken to him? - Yes.
- And? - Very sad.
Yeah.
- Um, what is the tenor of those conversations?
- I just wanted to make su-- [voice cracks]
I just wanted to make sure he was safe.
Because after the pictures came out, he looked so bad,
that I just wanted to make sure
he was in the right place.
Guess what? I got on waterproof mascara.
- Going back to your interaction with Garcelle.
- He does? - He does?
- If you don't mind me saying,
Tom calls her.
- Well, I do mind you saying that,
'cause I feel like you're betraying my friendship
right now, but please, have your moment.
- Erika.
- Why did you get upset with Garcelle sharing
that Tom calls you with the group,
when you had shared it while mic'd and on camera?
- Not on camera. The cameras were down.
- Okay. - So we were talking,
and this again goes to the sham
that, you know, I could not answer those calls
because people would say why are you--
- That you were in cahoots with him.
Of course, so that's why I blew up at Garcelle.
- Because you did not want people
to have the impression that you two--
- That we were--yeah. And I had not spoken to him
until he went into the care facility.
- How many times have you spoken with him?
- You know, he calls every day.
- Still?
- He's called five times today. - [gasps]
- Really? - Yeah, sitting right here.
- Have you expressed your anger with him...
- Yes, I have. - When you speak to him?
- I've asked him how he could put me in this position.
- Have you asked him if he did it?
- I asked him why am I-- why--
[choking up] Why would you--
- It's okay.
- It's not okay.
[dramatic music]
Why would you leave me...
With millions of dollars in lawsuits pointed at me?
- Coming up.
You hired security?
- For a week, I did, yeah.
You said you were gonna come after me and my family.
- You came after me and my family,
so you can get pushed right back on.
- Tonight "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills"
[downtempo music]
- Have you asked him if he did it?
- [choking up] I asked him why would you--
- It's okay.
- It's not okay. - Yeah.
- Why would you leave me
with millions of dollars of lawsuits pointed at me?
- Did you ask him if he...
- Andy. - Stole from these people?
- Andy, he doesn't even acknowledge anything.
None of it.
[sniffles]
It doesn't even matter what he says,
'cause he's incompetent.
So I'm left holding the ----ing bag.
- Oh, ----ing hell.
So he doesn't even acknowledge that he has these lawsuits
or these things are going on?
He's not capable of understanding any of it?
- Not when I've pressed.
And I probably shouldn't even be telling you that.
Go ahead. What else?
- The big bombshell in the "LA Times" article,
that $20 million was transferred.
- It was not.
- There was not $20 million transferred...
- EJ Global. - Into your company...
- That is correct. - EJ Global, as a loan?
- That is correct. - From Tom's law firm.
- It was not $20 million. No.
My lawyer wrote to "Page Six" to "E" and everybody else,
but somehow or another that doesn't seem to be told.
- You spent $14 million on your American Express bill?
- Over 12 years.
So if you knock that down to 2 million per year,
that's pretty much what we're all doing this year.
I mean, doing on the-- in this lifestyle.
- That $14 million that's been reported is over 12 years?
- That is correct. - Okay.
So the allegation is that the money that we have seen
you spending was money that Tom stole from others,
and your reaction to that is?
- This is a very long bankruptcy
that will be pulled apart, both his firm
and his personal bankruptcy.
I am not in bankruptcy.
I am being sued by everyone who thinks I've got
some magical pot of gold at some rainbow.
I have no idea. But wait a second.
If that is proven,
what money was allegedly misappropriated when, how?
Does that mean every lawyer's salary should be clawed back?
Does that mean every secretary's salary
needs to be clawed back?
Or the referring attorneys
or anyone else that's in that business?
So that's a big thing to lay out there that requires--
- But then why was it ruled
that you could be roped into this?
- I don't know, you know?
I'm-- I would have to ask my lawyer--
- Because you're his wife. - It's pretty important.
- It's one more of the ----ing stack of sh-- I have.
- What about the mistresses that he was giving money to?
- Yeah, what about them?
Should we go get the money out of their ass?
I don't know. - You said that Tom started
making bad decisions three years ago
after his car accident,
but "The LA Times" claim that his alleged wrongdoing spanned
over a decade before that.
- That would be long before I'm on the show.
- But I mean, I'm not talking about you
on the show or anything, I'm just saying--
- I'm just saying I wouldn't know.
I am no doctor-- - Yes.
- All right? Three years ago,
he had a terrible, terrible head injury.
- Really? - There was a significant shift
in his personality, his decision-making, and who he is.
- People thought that you were manipulating the narrative
by saying that the cognitive decline started three years ago
and that you were somehow connecting
the cognitive decline with him allegedly ripping off people.
- No, I'm simply just saying-- - You were not?
- No. What I'm saying is--
I'm just simply telling you what I've experienced.
- Okay. Had anyone heard any rumors
of Tom's corruption before this?
- I hadn't. all: No.
- And had you? - No.
By all accounts, this was an upstanding man
in the community that was doing well, winning awards still.
What are we supposed to believe, Andy?
- Right, right, right. I have to assume
that if you thought that Tom was involved in any impropriety
that had to do with the money you were spending,
you would not have come out with the song, "XXPEN$IVE."
- I wouldn't have been on a reality TV show.
- That's what I thought. - Okay, let's be clear here.
I'm not-- [scoffs]
[both chuckle]
- You're smart. You wouldn't be here.
- But I wouldn't. - I know.
- 'Cause you can't hide sh-- like this.
- Mm-hmm. - That's what I'm saying.
This is not some master plan.
This is not, you know,
Erika being some financial ----ing mastermind.
This is a tragic sequence of events
that are completely terrible.
- Sutton, you said that one of Tom's former partners
left the firm because of shady business practices.
- One of the partners at his law firm left
because his wife told the partner,
"Honey, something's off."
- Stop it! - I can't make this up.
That was a rumor that I had heard.
- I would love that person's name.
Helps in my investigation. - I don't know their name.
- But you knew enough to say it, Sutton.
- I did because I felt-- - But no, hun.
- Yep. - Just stop for one second.
This is what I'm talking about.
If you're gonna throw it out, back it up.
Give me the name so I can go.
- It will help you. - It may help me.
- It would help, yeah. - Oh, okay.
- Do you see what I'm saying? - Yeah, sure.
- Help me. - Okay.
I will.
- Thank you.
- Going back to the meeting that the women had
at Dorit's, was there any one thing
that was said that surprised you the most?
- No, I think-- I think the thing
that upset me the most was that why are they immediately
believing all of this stuff when I'm right here?
You know, I'm here. The source is here.
And I--I worked really hard to be open and honest.
And I felt like I was just getting sh-- on for it.
- But we had never, ever spoken about the lawsuits.
- But we've never spoken about your lawsuits either.
- You're involved in an ongoing lawsuit--
- With Beverly Beach. Exactly.
- Beverly Beach.
- He wants a certain amount of money.
And no, I can't get into numbers,
because it's an ongoing lawsuit.
- People were afraid to ask questions--
- You could've talked to me. - Because you are closed--
- I asked questions. - But to my face, love.
- I did to your face. - But not after the meeting.
- It didn't go great when they did ask you questions.
- Who cares? - Well--
- What do you want me to do? - Well, it makes you hesitant.
- It would make them clam up and not ask anything,
I would think.
- We're talking about heavy sh--, right?
- Yeah. - What do you want me to do?
Like, I'm very human.
- Well, it's the heavy sh-- that we were worried about.
- But wait a minute. At Christmas dinner,
I didn't do enough.
- Everybody was, like, wait-- - Right.
- Do you know where that money's coming from?
- That's another question as well that we will uncover.
- Okay.
- I clearly wasn't angry enough,
I wasn't mad enough,
so I cannot win here.
- Coming up.
- I am an adult. - Well, you know what?
- What? - It didn't seem like that.
- And it felt like you were being a bitchy ----ing (BLEEP).
[downtempo music]
- At Christmas dinner, I didn't do enough.
At Christmas dinner, I clearly wasn't angry enough.
I wasn't mad enough.
So I cannot win here.
- Wait, here or out there? Because you're saying that--
- Both. - None of us said
that you're not angry--
- Both--she just said I'm not angry enough.
- No, I said-- - She asked if you were
angry at Tom.
- Very. - I just didn't know that.
That's-- it's a reasonable question.
- Listen, if we are gonna get together,
talking behind people's back--
- Never works. - Never works.
- I mean, Rinna.
- Well, but it's true. I know it better than anybody.
True Munchausen Syndrome wherein those affected
feign disease, illness, or psychological trauma.
I would say she's probably mostly sober right now.
They're this close to Kim dying.
- Wow.
- Denise didn't show up on Saturday night.
The first post is the picture that Aaron posted of her
in a hospital bed with six hernias.
That is called a sympathy post.
I know how this game works.
- If you care so much about Erika, why were you pushing
Sutton to say things that would hurt Erika?
- All I said was if we're gonna get together--
you said, if Erika walked in this room right now,
I would say it right to her face.
So I was just like, she's here, say it to her face.
That's all. - And I did.
- And did you give her a heads up about...
- Yes. - What she was walking into?
- I did.
- Sutton was the one who called the meeting.
She was the one who had legal concerns.
She's the one who took charge of this whole thing.
And yes, we all had questions. And you know, I said--
[all speaking at once]
- Well, Mary from Long Island said,
"I'm so disappointed in so many of you
"when it comes to questioning Erika.
"Crystal, you were quiet.
"Kyle, you were a kiss-ass. Dorit, you were duplicitous.
Why didn't any of you ask the tough questions?"
- I asked, I said, did you know any of this before?
I asked so many questions that I felt bad.
The obvious question is, did you know any of this?
- No, I did not. - And that's what I said.
- But you never accused me of lying.
- Never. - And that was my big issue.
That's why I had such a breakdown at Kathy's.
You know me. You can pick up the phone,
and you--you can say, girl, what the (BLEEP)?
- Got it.
- We talked about this-- - What?
- No, I was just wondering if you apolog--
if you apologized to her.
- For what? - For that dinner at Kathy's.
- No. - You're not going to?
- Not tonight.
What am I apologizing for, Garcelle?
Sticking up for myself? - For threatening her.
- For threatening her and being so vicious.
- You said, I'm gonna come after you, you said Tom was--
- Do you know what I mean by that?
Do you know what I mean by that?
Let me explain.
- I don't think anybody knew what you meant.
- Okay. Well, I'm about to tell you.
Everyone on this show knows that the longer you stay on,
everyone goes through their own personal stuff.
And when it's your turn,
I will not give you the grace that I asked for.
That's what that means.
And I happen to be the one getting it this year,
but you could be the one getting it next year.
- That is-- - I got it--
- That's-- - I got it this year.
- That's really not how it came off.
- No.
- You ever call me a liar again, I'm coming for you.
But that's how I meant it.
- But we don't know that though.
- Look again, here you are looking at me rolling your eyes
not believing me, and that's okay too.
- I'm just saying it's not how it came off.
- It didn't seem like that. - Well, it doesn't matter.
And that's exactly what it is. - And that's a really--
- Had you said that, I think that would have been easier
to digest than "I'm coming for you."
"I'm coming for you"-- - I'm coming for you is slang.
- Yeah, it is. - It can mean many things.
- But with the intent and the-- - It means--
- And your menacing eyes-- - You said, "And your family."
- And you're so angry, it didn't feel like--
- It was scary for you.
Right, it was scary-- - It was scary for everybody.
- And in any other city, it'd have been a conversation.
- It was scary to watch. - It's scary.
- Oh, please. - Yeah!
- In Potomac, it'd have been a conversation.
In Atlanta, it'd have been in a conversation.
In New York, it would have been a conversation.
It's only in Beverly Hills... - What does that mean?
- That everybody's so precious. - [laughs]
- (BLEEP).
- Queens of Bravo tweeted some photos of Erika yelling
at Sutton from Kathy's party with the caption,
"And not once was she called a bully by anyone."
- Agreed. - Garcelle.
You'd retweeted this with a thank you.
Should someone have called out Erika
for being a bully that night?
- Absolutely. Absolutely.
That's one of my biggest regrets that night,
and it haunted me and it still haunts me
that I didn't stop it,
that I didn't do something to say--
- And what would you have said? - Enough.
Enough, and I felt like
I should have tried to intervene,
to deescalate the situation, because it was a lot.
- Elva from Bakersfield said that if she had been threatened
like that, she would've hired security.
Sutton, were you scared? - I did.
- You did? - She did.
- Absolutely. - You hired security?
- For-- for a week I did, yeah.
- What's your reaction to that?
- [laughs] - I don't know what--
I don't know what she's gonna do.
- Oh, okay.
- We're in a Joe Pesci movie now.
- You said you were gonna come after me and my family.
- You came after me and my family,
so you can get pushed right back on.
- That's not an okay way to speak to people.
- And it's not okay to call someone a liar.
And it's not okay to say someone made a deal
with the devil, and it's not okay to say--
- Well, you know what? I have my opinion.
- And I have mine, and it-- - But--okay.
- No, you're not going to do this.
- Then talk about it like an adult.
- I am an adult.
- Well, you know what? - What?
- It didn't seem like that at that table.
- And it didn't-- and it felt like you were
being a bitchy ----ing (BLEEP).
Okay? That's what it felt like.
[dramatic music]
- Coming up next...
The level of questioning of Lisa Vanderpump regarding--
- But she ran away and I didn't.
She couldn't answer the bell. I ----ing did.
- At Christmas dinner, I didn't do enough.
- You said you were gonna come after me and my family.
- It's not okay to call someone a liar.
- I have my opinion. - And I have mine.
- Then talk about it like an adult.
- I am an adult.
- It didn't seem like that at that table.
- And it felt like you were being
a bitchy ----ing (BLEEP).
Okay? That's what it felt like.
That you could not understand the position I'm in,
and you kept pushing, and you kept pushing
and worrying about yourself.
And that's not what needed to happen.
- Actually, I wasn't worried about only myself.
I wasn't seeing you worried about the victims at all.
- You don't know that.
You're assuming that. - That's right.
- What would I have needed to do?
- You were only throwing insults at me.
You weren't taking any kind of conversations with me--
- I'm not going to be called a liar.
- Well, if you would talk to me,
then maybe you could convince me that you weren't.
- I'm not a liar. I don't need to convince you.
- How do I know this? - I'm not going to sit--
- I don't know you that well. - At a dinner table and be--
You don't know me well enough to say I'm a liar.
- I was looking at the facts. - What facts?
- I was reading "The LA Times." - Really?
20 million did not go into my account,
so you shouldn't jump to conclusions.
"Erika's a liar. Erika's inconsistent.
Erika's at fault." - Well--
- Well, I'm not. - Listen.
You know what you did in Del Mar?
- What?
- You pretended to be my friend.
- [sighs] It's just been raw, honey.
- I know, I'm sorry. - No, it's okay.
It's okay.
I'll get through it.
But I had to lash out, and I apologize.
And you pretended to be mine.
- No, actually, I thought that you were being sincere.
And you know what that is? Lying.
- No, that's actually just playing your ass.
- Tell me why being called a liar is--
is such a big trigger--
- Because this is a big deal in my life.
- It's a strong word.
- It's a pretty dangerous moment to be called a liar.
- This is a very vulnerable moment.
- If you think about it.
- That had big consequences outside of it.
Look, I had never told that story about Tom
and his car accident to anyone.
As a result of the crash, his ankle was broken.
- Right. Got it, got it, got it.
- He was also unconscious for 12 hours...
- He was?
- So when I tell it and I'm called a liar about it--
- Well, you did.
You said that he broke his ankle...
- He did break his ankle. - And that was it.
- No. - Just because you didn't say
that he had the brain thing at the same time,
that is still lying.
- No, it's not. - That's a strong word though.
- It is protecting-- - I'm not sure it's lying.
It's omitting. - It's not--hold on.
It is not omitting. - You said that your marriage
was perfect when he was having affairs.
- My marriage was not perfect. - And it's okay.
The thing is, Erika, sometimes it's okay
to lie when you're protecting some--
- I'm not lying. - I get that.
- And first off, you weren't even
in our group years ago when that happened.
- I know, but you told the story.
- You're saying you just left things out?
- Do you know why? - Yes, you were protecting.
- And I--that's okay. And that's okay.
- That's not a lie.
- If you don't know that you're protecting--
- I could no longer protect-- hold on.
Once Tom's counsel had said he's incompetent,
I came with the whole story, okay?
And by the way, when she asked me
a question I couldn't answer, even though we're close,
I said, I can't tell you.
- I said, okay.
- Well, Robbie from Redondo Beach said,
"Rinna, you said Erika shouldn't be questioned
"because she's dealing with something serious.
"Yolanda's health and Kim's addiction
"and Denise's marriage were all pretty serious in my eyes,
"but now with Erika, it's crickets.
Did aliens take over your body? Please explain yourself."
- No, aliens have not taken over my body.
- Okay, but this is a really important point.
- I'm gonna-- I'm gonna say this.
I'm gonna say number one,
I feel horrible about what happened with Yolanda.
- Munchausen disease,
that was the biggest ----ing blow I've ever had in my life.
- And I'm sorry about that.
And it didn't come from me-- - Sorry is not enough.
You put it out into the universe and that sucks.
- I regret that. That was wrong on every level.
And I'm really sorry that that happened.
- Okay.
- I wish I could take that back.
I feel horrible about that.
- Okay. - Kim,
I also feel that it wasn't my place to do that.
- You told Eden that I am near death,
that I am not in a good place.
That is so treacherous. - Well, Kim, you have to know
that I have only wanted to move on with you.
You know, I hope in the end, maybe it helped in some way.
I don't feel good about that either really in the long run.
And with Denise, I don't like how that went down either.
You sent a cease and desist. - Who told you that?
- Oof. You're so angry.
Denise, you are angry. - No, you are playing dirty.
- I'm playing dirty? - Like, this is slanderous.
- All these things, I really have to be honest,
I don't feel great about.
I did them.
It happened. They haunt me.
I think each and every one of them haunts me.
When I think about those moments and I--
I have to live with myself.
You know, I have to live with the consequences of my actions.
We all do. If I could take it back
and not go through those moments...
To be honest, I would.
I would take each and every one of them back.
- And following up on that, Rinna, I mean, as a group,
there was a lot of conversation about Lisa Vanderpump
and Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy to the point where you might've
inferred that she stole from orphans and widows.
- Lisa, why aren't you upset about this?
- Oh, come on. - He's your employee.
This wouldn't get out there if you didn't want it out there.
- Ugh. - This is, like, bullsh--
going to Teddi, bringing Kyle in.
This sounds like a ----ing setup.
- I was-- are you kidding me?
- I'm not kidding you.
- What? - What?
- I mean, I'm just saying, the level of questioning
of Lisa Vanderpump regarding that--
- But she ran away and I didn't.
- Okay. - Okay?
- Okay. - I'm here.
She chose to, like, not show up.
I showed up today-- as vicious and as angry
and as hurt and as beat down as I am.
She couldn't answer the bell. I ----ing did.
- She never answered questions. - She went away.
- So that's not really...
- Kind of different. - In my opinion--
- Analogous. - No.
- We're gonna be right back after this.
Next.
- Why are you smiling at me?
- Because you're a piece of work.
- [laughing] - You are a piece of work.
- I've never met anyone like you.
- That's saying a lot. - That's saying a lot.
- You said you were gonna come after me and my family.
[upbeat music]
- Erika, if you don't mind putting your phone down.
Thank you so much. Five, four,
three to the jib, two...
- We are back with more
of the "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen. Winnie from Anchorage said,
"Erika, Sutton was such a great friend to you.
She flew the women out to your Broadway debut--"
- Yes, that's why I don't understand
why she flipped on me after an article.
Come to me and talk to me, Andy.
- You wouldn't talk to me. - You called me a liar.
- I said I don't bel--yeah. - You came to my house.
You told me that you didn't want to speak to me,
that you were afraid to be seen with me.
- I never said I didn't want to speak to you.
- No, you're worried about your reputation.
- I didn't say I didn't want to speak to you.
- You didn't want to be seen with me.
You called me a liar. These things are true, yes?
- Here's what I-- - Hello, does anyone else...
- It's all on camera. - It's all on camera.
- When I said I didn't want to see you--
[groans]
- It's on camera. - Can someone please
back me the (BLEEP) up on what I'm saying?
- I'm not saying I didn't say those things.
- They're all agreeing with you.
- We're agreeing with you.
- Why are you smiling at me?
- Because you're a piece of work.
- [laughing] - You are a piece of work.
- That's why I'm smiling. You're something else.
I just--I don't know. I've never met anyone like you.
- The story I told is true. - That's saying a lot.
- [laughs]
- And listen, I understand
that the story I'm telling is ----ing wild, okay?
I understand.
From the burglary to--
- The cars turning over.
- Well, one-- one car flipped over.
- You said Tom and your son.
- Yes. One--my son rolled his car.
Tom's was this way and was away from the car.
- Okay.
- You found him after he was unconscious for 12 hours?
- Yes. It's in--it's actually nine,
'cause I went back and did the math.
It's actually nine. - Is there a police report?
- They can't find one.
- But he called you or they found--
you found him? - No, no, no, no.
I talked to him last at 9:00 p.m.
He was leaving an event on the west side.
I did not talk to him again until 6:00 a.m. in the morning.
After midnight, something ain't right, okay?
- Right. - So I kept calling and calling
and calling, no answer, no answer, no answer,
no answer, no answer, no-- no answer.
At 6:00 a.m., the phone rings, and it's Tom.
I'm like, where are you, where are you?
And he goes, hi, I don't know where I am.
I think I'm on the west side. - God.
- And the phone disconnects. - Oh, God.
- Did you do Find My Phone?
- He has a-- all: Flip phone.
- Come on. Keep up.
- [snorts]
- So then he calls back. - Oh, God.
- And I go, hey, what happened?
Where are you? Where are you?
And he goes, I think I'm close or in the backyard.
Well, I'm looking at the backyard and he's not there.
So I go, what do you see?
And he says, I see the bridge.
- Right. - So that immediately tells me
he's below our house, meaning--
- But did he say, "I had a car accident"?
- No. Can I finish my story?
- This is-- - I'm telling you the truth.
- This is why we don't wanna ask you anything.
- Right, but-- but please don't interrupt me
while I'm try-- because I would--
- Train of thought. - I don't--yeah.
Look, let me finish up. - Okay, go ahead.
- So I go down and I see the car,
tilted, no Tom.
Tom is at the bottom of the ravine.
911, go to the hospital.
- Why did you say, by the way,
that he was allegedly unconscious for 12 hours?
- I know he was unconscious for 12 hours.
I mean, the head injury-- - Allegedly, yeah.
Mm-hmm. Right, yeah.
'Cause I got in trouble with my lawyers. [laughs]
- 'Cause you got in trouble with your lawyers?
- I got in trouble with my lawyers for talking too much.
Yes. - Wow.
- Look, this whole thing is surreal,
but it is completely true.
And by the way, of course. - Allegedly.
- Why was it snowing where your son was?
- We're not gonna get into that.
Let's just focus on the fact that my child,
not his children, was the one that went and checked on him,
boarded up the house, and made sure everything was okay.
- How is your relationship with his children?
- We do not speak. Clearly, this is a massive--
- Wedge. - Yeah, wedge, thank you.
- Um, I-- I know we've covered this,
but I have to keep going back to it
because it's the big thing
that everybody is so pissed off about.
- Right. - Okay?
They are equating everything you do,
every attitude you have, every post you make,
they equate it as, there are victims.
She should be talking about them.
She should be doing something. And it just always, it's--
- You know how I can serve the victims the best?
- Tell me. - By cooperating in court
and by getting-- rolling up my sleeves
and getting down to the bottom of it.
And that is what I have done.
Really, if everything is true
that has been alleged, is how I can help.
- But you can say that, my darling--
- I just did. - Now.
But you can say that and then people will actually--
because that's a beautiful thing what you just said.
- My lawyer has said that.
And look, Erika has cooperated.
Erika has done everything she can.
Erika is also being sued day after day, all right?
- Okay. Um, well, listen.
You've answered every question, and I thank you.
And I want to hear from the women now.
Do you feel that you heard everything
that you were wondering about?
I mean, I think we all came in here with a lot of questions.
- I think we definitely-- - I think Erika cleared up
a lot about Tom's accident, because--
- Yeah, cleared up a lot.
- You know, and things get lost in translation.
- They do, they do. - It's like, it was a four--
flipped four times, the car, five times.
- Well, that was my child on the way home--
- Right, no, but I'm saying-- - And when you're nervous,
you sometimes say something, and we all are ADD.
E-F-G. - Well, I think also too,
it's hard to interpret sometimes,
and people grab onto certain things.
- Garcelle. - Yes? [laughs]
- And that was a lot more clear to me, Tom's accident.
- Is there anything else that is unanswered?
- No. I mean, we're never gonna
get anywhere between them two, you know?
Um, that's the only thing.
- Fancy Drew, what about you? - Yeah.
- No, I mean, I--I asked all of my questions that I wanted to
face-to-face, so it's nice to hear more clear answers
or answers at all, so thank you for answering.
- What about you, Crystal?
- No, I'm done.
- You're good? - Yeah.
- I'm sorry I bit your head off.
- It's okay.
- The most important thing that I heard today
was your expression of sympathy
for the victims and them needing
to get any rectification that is due to them.
- That's right. Absolutely.
The legitimate claims need to be taken care of.
Can I just say one thing? - Yes.
- Thank you for hearing me out today.
This is not pretty. It is ugly.
I am well aware.
And I have been pressed for however many months now
and stories have run wild
and people have filled in the blanks.
I hope today that you all leave knowing a little bit more
of my side and understand this will not be wrapped up easily.
It is a long, arduous process.
And all I can do is put one foot in front of the other.
- Thank you. That was a lot.
We're gonna-- - Oh, I--
I just want to apologize to Garcelle.
- You do? For what?
- Because it wasn't my fault
that I didn't come to your dinner.
I wasn't allowed to come to your dinner.
- What? So who we waiting for?
We're waiting for Kathy.
- She's not coming. - Oh!
- She's not? - I'm sorry.
- Oh! - Are you serious?
- [laughing] - Yeah, she can't come.
Something came up with one of her--
- Why didn't she text me? - Oh.
- That bitch.
- [laughing] - I've never liked her.
- I wanted to come to the dinner, but it was--
I was already safe from COVID,
but I had that three-day, so they wouldn't let me come,
and I thought that they told you and I was mad.
I said, I'm fine.
But I couldn't come. - I accept your apology.
- What are your no-- what's your note in your bag?
- That was it. - They saw it.
It said "Garcelle." - That was the note.
Oh, I got it. - Okay.
Now that that's cleared up,
we're gonna be right back with final thoughts after this.
- And a big fight. - [chuckles]
[upbeat music]
[hip-hop beat]
- I'm sorry. - That's okay.
- You know, it's just really heated.
- Know that I-- - I know you get it.
- I've always been supporting you.
- I know you have, and I really appreciate it.
And I'm very supportive of you. - And that's why I understand.
But that your fighting when I defended the liar.
It's like, I get it. You can bite my head off.
It's okay. - It's okay.
Don't worry about it. - Okay.
But I get it. - It's all good.
- Yeah. - All right.
We are back with some final thoughts
for the "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills."
Sutton, if you could redo one thing
from this year, what would it be?
- Well, definitely my conversation with Crystal.
Just listen.
- Mm. - Dorit, you're a mom.
You're a fashionista. You're a chatterbox.
What do you want to be known for above all?
- Definitely the chatterbox. [laughter]
- Well, good, 'cause you are. - Thank you.
I'm proud of it. - Yeah, right.
- I want be a good mom, a good wife.
- You are a good mom and a good wife.
- That's-- that's what I'm most proud of.
- So, Kathy, what surprised you the most
about joining the group and this experience?
- I just think that I was surprised
how real it all was and what a sisterhood it is,
and how I really adore all the girls.
It's been fun. I've had a good time.
- Crystal, you had a rough entry,
and then you really loosened up.
You shared so much of yourself.
What did it mean for you to have this new group of friends?
- It was a tough transition,
but I always kept an open mind and open heart.
And it was really nice to end it the way it did.
I want to make a toast to all of you beautiful ladies
on this Chinese New Year that I'm just so grateful
to celebrate this year with you.
This has been truly the most remarkable year of my life.
And all of you are in thanks for that.
So cheers. - And may it be better
than the last, I'll tell y'all that.
- When I said my speech of my hope for everybody,
it really rang true.
- Garcelle, do you leave tonight
feeling like more of an insider with the group?
- I do, actually. I do.
- You do? - I do.
I don't know what it is, but I do.
- Did you get the resolution you were looking for today?
- Um, I didn't come in with a particular--
- Need? - Yeah.
But I wanted to see where things go,
and obviously Dorit and I, you know,
I will say things directly to her--
even though I felt like I was, but I will do a better job.
And then Rinna and I are just gonna move forward.
- Yeah.
Rinna, what's your biggest takeaway from this year?
I mean, we really saw a shift in you.
How do you leave this season?
- You know, I did not know how it would go today.
Last year, I felt like there wasn't any resolution for me,
and I was not gonna do that with Garcelle.
So I feel good about what happened between us.
And I think that what I know about me is I am a good friend.
- You are. - I--I'm a good friend.
- You are. Thank you.
- Erika, your life has been under a microscope.
There's a Greek chorus of people
who have a lot of strong opinions about you.
- Yes.
- What do you hope that they take away from you?
- I hope for nothing other than I came here with an open heart.
I honored my commitment. I stood up for myself.
And that's all I can do.
I appreciate you asking me the tough questions and--
and letting me, you know, tell my story.
- Kyle, whether it's with Kathy or your friends,
do you feel a responsibility to patch things up
and bring everybody together?
- Yes, I do. You know, when I see Sutton
and Erika fighting, I--it-- it's hard for me
because I love Erika and I've known her so long,
and you and I became close so fast.
But having my sister here
and having so much fun with her and laughing.
We've had such a great time, and I--
I'm really happy about that.
- Well, it was a great season all the way around.
And in honor of the season, Kathy's butlers,
Patrick and Carlos... [all screaming]
Are here... - Oh, my God.
- With a special treat... - Patrick!
- For everybody. - Patrick!
- Thank you, fellas. - Oh, my good--
hello, hello!
- Thank you, my love.
- Oh, wait, don't forget me, Carlos.
Here you go, baby.
- How are you? Bonjour.
- Oh. - I said I would join.
- Patrick, I'm glad you weren't so traumatized
by this group that you could come back into the fervor.
- Yes.
- How can I be traumatized with eight beautiful ladies?
[laughter] - Aww.
- I apologize. I'm sorry.
- Amen.
Amen. - Thank you for everything.
- Bottoms up, ladies.
all: Bottoms up!
- Cheers. - Cheers.
- Oh, my God! - Is she doing it?
- Who's gonna do it? - I'll do it.
- I'ma do it. I'ma do it.
- You did it! Sutton did it!
- Sutton did it? - And so did you!
- I couldn't do it. - Delicious.
- Sutton, we are very much alike.
[laughter] - She did it too.
- Wow. - I'm the bartender.