1 00:00:12,412 --> 00:00:12,945 - Tonight, it's part two 2 00:00:14,140 --> 00:00:16,181 of the "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" Reunion. 3 00:00:16,216 --> 00:00:18,117 "Kyle, you posted a thirst trap, 4 00:00:18,150 --> 00:00:20,253 hoping to get that Champagne Papi follow. 5 00:00:20,286 --> 00:00:21,388 Did it work?" - No. 6 00:00:21,420 --> 00:00:24,423 He still doesn't follow. - Lisa, Bill from Manhattan 7 00:00:24,457 --> 00:00:26,760 wants to know why they called it quits 8 00:00:26,792 --> 00:00:28,894 and pushed the eject button first. 9 00:00:28,928 --> 00:00:32,631 - I think you just have to read the press, and Amelia did. 10 00:00:32,664 --> 00:00:34,734 [laughter] 11 00:00:34,768 --> 00:00:36,469 - Can't control the mouth. 12 00:00:36,503 --> 00:00:38,137 - Crystal, you were in the middle of Dorit 13 00:00:38,170 --> 00:00:39,439 and Kyle's argument on the plane. 14 00:00:39,472 --> 00:00:40,372 Who was in the wrong? - Yeah, Crystal. 15 00:00:40,406 --> 00:00:42,241 - [clears throat] - Why are you, like--like, 16 00:00:42,274 --> 00:00:44,143 turning to me very aggressively right now? 17 00:00:44,643 --> 00:00:48,481 - I like being able to have that banter with my friends. 18 00:00:48,515 --> 00:00:50,984 Am I boring you? - Oh, damn. 19 00:00:51,484 --> 00:00:54,487 - You were not happy when the first season aired. 20 00:00:54,521 --> 00:00:58,191 - I kept thinking about my mom. Like, what would my mom do? 21 00:00:58,223 --> 00:01:01,326 [crying] 22 00:01:03,729 --> 00:01:05,665 - I gave every paycheck to my husband. 23 00:01:05,698 --> 00:01:07,500 - How many mistresses do you think he had? 24 00:01:07,534 --> 00:01:08,668 - I know of three. 25 00:01:08,701 --> 00:01:09,835 - Why didn't you leave Tom sooner? 26 00:01:09,868 --> 00:01:11,170 - Where was I going? 27 00:01:11,204 --> 00:01:12,772 - Did you feel you were held captive? 28 00:01:12,805 --> 00:01:14,540 How long do you think he was unfaithful? 29 00:01:14,573 --> 00:01:17,109 - Years. - Were you faithful to him? 30 00:01:17,143 --> 00:01:18,378 [dramatic music] 31 00:01:18,411 --> 00:01:22,948 Did you know that there was liability when you left him? 32 00:01:22,981 --> 00:01:27,120 ♪ ♪ 33 00:01:30,189 --> 00:01:34,227 [tense music] 34 00:01:34,259 --> 00:01:38,731 Erika, why not leave Tom sooner if he was cheating on you? 35 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:43,703 - The cheating is a part of it. There's so much more there. 36 00:01:43,736 --> 00:01:45,305 And I've said to Tom, 37 00:01:45,337 --> 00:01:48,408 "If you are in love with someone else, divorce me." 38 00:01:48,441 --> 00:01:50,276 - He said? - Nothing. 39 00:01:50,310 --> 00:01:52,444 - Nothing. - Zero. 40 00:01:52,478 --> 00:01:54,514 "If you are in love with someone else, 41 00:01:54,546 --> 00:01:56,383 don't make me be the bad guy." 42 00:01:56,415 --> 00:01:58,218 - How long do you think he was unfaithful to you? 43 00:01:58,251 --> 00:02:00,352 - Years. 44 00:02:00,387 --> 00:02:02,221 - Were you faithful to him? 45 00:02:04,891 --> 00:02:08,360 - Well, yes, up until I filed for divorce, yeah. 46 00:02:08,395 --> 00:02:09,695 - Okay. - Yeah, yeah. 47 00:02:09,728 --> 00:02:12,498 - Well, this season, Erika shocked everyone 48 00:02:12,532 --> 00:02:15,168 when she filed for divorce from Tom. 49 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,304 But as she confided in her friends, they soon learned 50 00:02:18,337 --> 00:02:20,840 Erika's seemingly perfect marriage 51 00:02:20,873 --> 00:02:24,770 was more of a pretty mess. Watch. 52 00:02:24,911 --> 00:02:27,681 - Tom and I had dinner every night together, 53 00:02:27,713 --> 00:02:29,215 and it was nice to talk 54 00:02:29,248 --> 00:02:32,384 and just kind of reconnect in a way. 55 00:02:32,752 --> 00:02:35,221 I'm really content to let people be who they are, 56 00:02:35,254 --> 00:02:36,622 and that's one of the one things I love 57 00:02:36,656 --> 00:02:38,792 about Tom the most, is he lets me be myself. 58 00:02:38,824 --> 00:02:40,694 - Did you talk to Tom? He's good? 59 00:02:40,727 --> 00:02:41,795 - We spoke this morning. He's good. 60 00:02:41,828 --> 00:02:45,331 ♪ ♪ 61 00:02:45,365 --> 00:02:46,633 [phone chimes] 62 00:02:46,665 --> 00:02:49,836 [dramatic musical sting] 63 00:02:49,868 --> 00:02:53,340 - What? - "Ladies, I truly consider you 64 00:02:53,372 --> 00:02:54,640 "my close friends, 65 00:02:54,674 --> 00:02:56,108 "and this is why I'm reaching out to tell you 66 00:02:56,109 --> 00:02:59,245 that I filed for divorce this morning." 67 00:03:00,347 --> 00:03:02,716 - My life drastically changed this week. 68 00:03:02,748 --> 00:03:05,617 I did not see it ending this way. 69 00:03:05,651 --> 00:03:07,887 I was gonna hold that man's hand till he died. 70 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:10,590 Mr. Girardi, I made you coffee. 71 00:03:10,622 --> 00:03:12,759 - Oh, cool. - Ooh, you clean up good. 72 00:03:12,792 --> 00:03:14,593 - Gotta make sure the jury likes me today. 73 00:03:14,627 --> 00:03:15,895 - Every day. 74 00:03:15,929 --> 00:03:17,796 - I'm really proud of you. 75 00:03:18,897 --> 00:03:23,370 - Thank you. For saying that. 76 00:03:24,771 --> 00:03:27,774 When he called me, I said, "Where have you been?" 77 00:03:27,806 --> 00:03:31,276 I was just assuming he was with some other woman. 78 00:03:31,311 --> 00:03:33,680 - He was cheating on you. 79 00:03:33,712 --> 00:03:35,647 - Oh, sh--. 80 00:03:35,682 --> 00:03:38,479 - One of the reasons that I filed for divorce 81 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,319 is the resistance to a conversation. 82 00:03:40,353 --> 00:03:42,655 - He's not been an angel. - No, he's not an angel. 83 00:03:42,688 --> 00:03:45,625 My God. That's--no, he's not an angel. 84 00:03:45,658 --> 00:03:47,460 As much as Tom encouraged me, 85 00:03:47,493 --> 00:03:49,194 I think he resented me every step I took forward. 86 00:03:49,228 --> 00:03:51,497 He was like, "Who the (BLEEP) do you think you are?" 87 00:03:51,531 --> 00:03:53,599 I'd go to hug him, and... 88 00:03:56,269 --> 00:03:58,604 He wouldn't hug me back. 89 00:03:58,638 --> 00:04:00,539 This is the end. 90 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:03,175 [crying] 91 00:04:08,882 --> 00:04:10,783 - You had to watch it back again. 92 00:04:10,817 --> 00:04:11,918 - Yeah. 93 00:04:11,950 --> 00:04:13,252 - How does it feel? 94 00:04:13,286 --> 00:04:15,421 - It's okay. it's okay. 95 00:04:15,455 --> 00:04:17,290 - You've been on the show for six years. 96 00:04:17,322 --> 00:04:18,391 - Yes. 97 00:04:18,425 --> 00:04:19,893 - We've seen you with Tom, 98 00:04:19,925 --> 00:04:23,262 and you have painted a very rosy picture... 99 00:04:23,295 --> 00:04:24,697 - Mm-hmm. - Of your time with him. 100 00:04:24,730 --> 00:04:25,865 - Sure. 101 00:04:25,899 --> 00:04:29,536 - And viewers didn't understand that. 102 00:04:29,569 --> 00:04:32,404 Bet5000 said, "Erika's a liar. 103 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:35,341 "In every season, she's talked about her amazing marriage. 104 00:04:35,375 --> 00:04:37,810 This season it's all about how he cheated on her." 105 00:04:37,843 --> 00:04:40,512 Bob Slatton said, "I want Erika Jayne to explain 106 00:04:40,547 --> 00:04:42,548 "why she told the ladies in Tahoe that her marriage 107 00:04:42,581 --> 00:04:45,351 "was lovely and perfect, and then a week later, 108 00:04:45,384 --> 00:04:47,786 "she's backing up a moving van to the mansion, 109 00:04:47,821 --> 00:04:49,689 calling Tom abusive and a cheater." 110 00:04:49,723 --> 00:04:51,524 So, talk to me about that. 111 00:04:51,557 --> 00:04:53,759 Why hide the fact that you're in a broken marriage? 112 00:04:53,793 --> 00:04:56,528 - All marriages are complex. People are complex. 113 00:04:56,562 --> 00:04:58,298 There were good times. There were bad times. 114 00:04:58,331 --> 00:05:00,466 You're talking about two decades of a marriage. 115 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:01,668 - Okay. 116 00:05:01,701 --> 00:05:03,802 - So, no one's marriage is perfect. 117 00:05:03,836 --> 00:05:07,940 - Do you think you went far in the other direction 118 00:05:08,410 --> 00:05:10,543 to protect him on this show? 119 00:05:10,576 --> 00:05:12,879 - I think that I highlighted the best of him. 120 00:05:12,911 --> 00:05:14,880 - Why didn't you leave Tom sooner? 121 00:05:14,913 --> 00:05:17,350 - Where was I going? - Where weren't you going? 122 00:05:17,384 --> 00:05:18,651 You're on a hit TV show. 123 00:05:18,685 --> 00:05:20,720 You have a career. - Andy. Hold on. 124 00:05:20,754 --> 00:05:22,788 I was not in control of my finances. 125 00:05:22,822 --> 00:05:25,759 I walk out with two credit cards. 126 00:05:25,792 --> 00:05:27,761 They get cut. Am I gonna call you? 127 00:05:27,793 --> 00:05:30,562 Am I gonna call you? Who am I gonna go call? 128 00:05:30,596 --> 00:05:32,865 - I know what you make on this show. 129 00:05:34,670 --> 00:05:35,502 It ain't bad. 130 00:05:35,534 --> 00:05:37,103 - I gave every paycheck to my husband. 131 00:05:37,137 --> 00:05:38,103 - [gasps] 132 00:05:38,137 --> 00:05:39,505 - Oh, wow. - So crazy to me. 133 00:05:39,538 --> 00:05:40,406 - Why? Why? - Forever? 134 00:05:40,439 --> 00:05:42,574 Since you've been making money? - Yes. 135 00:05:42,608 --> 00:05:45,545 I've handed every paycheck I've ever made over. 136 00:05:45,577 --> 00:05:46,980 - Would you say you stayed with him 137 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,581 for the money and the security? - No. 138 00:05:48,615 --> 00:05:51,418 I stayed because I had no access. 139 00:05:51,451 --> 00:05:53,952 - Did you feel you were held captive? 140 00:05:56,423 --> 00:05:58,992 - I'll say this: I was 27 when I went in. 141 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:00,459 - Cocktail waitress. - He was 60. 142 00:06:00,492 --> 00:06:02,562 The power balance is way out of whack. 143 00:06:02,595 --> 00:06:05,310 I trusted this mean. All of my finances 144 00:06:05,649 --> 00:06:09,468 were kept down at the firm, and everything was kept there. 145 00:06:09,502 --> 00:06:11,237 - Then that sounds like you did say for the-- 146 00:06:11,271 --> 00:06:12,639 - Hold on. 147 00:06:12,672 --> 00:06:14,708 You're characterizing it as "for the money." 148 00:06:14,740 --> 00:06:16,442 I'm telling you I could not leave 149 00:06:16,475 --> 00:06:18,545 because I had no access to the money. 150 00:06:18,577 --> 00:06:19,879 - Okay. 151 00:06:19,913 --> 00:06:21,781 - Regardless of how much money there is, many women feel like 152 00:06:21,814 --> 00:06:23,582 they can't leave because they don't have access... 153 00:06:23,615 --> 00:06:24,783 - That's right. 154 00:06:24,817 --> 00:06:26,518 - And they don't have independence. 155 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:27,120 [overlapping chatter] 156 00:06:27,153 --> 00:06:29,549 - Listen, it doesn't matter how much is on deposit. 157 00:06:29,550 --> 00:06:30,523 - Right. - If you can't access it, 158 00:06:30,557 --> 00:06:31,557 you can't-- - You've got nothing. 159 00:06:31,591 --> 00:06:33,625 - What are you gonna do? - Weren't you, though, 160 00:06:33,659 --> 00:06:34,761 entitled to half of everything? 161 00:06:34,793 --> 00:06:36,696 You were with him for over ten years. 162 00:06:36,730 --> 00:06:39,648 - Well, clearly I'm entitled to half of the debt, 163 00:06:39,649 --> 00:06:40,867 because everybody's suing me for it. 164 00:06:40,899 --> 00:06:42,601 - Right. 165 00:06:42,634 --> 00:06:45,872 Over the years, he's having multiple affairs. 166 00:06:45,904 --> 00:06:47,874 You're saying, "I stayed it in. 167 00:06:47,906 --> 00:06:49,576 "It was an old-fashioned relationship. 168 00:06:49,608 --> 00:06:51,577 I didn't have access to anything." 169 00:06:51,610 --> 00:06:54,947 What I'm saying to you is, if you had left, 170 00:06:54,980 --> 00:06:57,584 wouldn't you legally have been entitled to 171 00:06:57,617 --> 00:06:59,485 half of what there was. 172 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:00,786 - And I responded yes. 173 00:07:00,819 --> 00:07:04,790 I'm on for half the liability and on for half the assets. 174 00:07:04,824 --> 00:07:06,258 - But you didn't know 175 00:07:06,259 --> 00:07:07,494 that there was liability at the time. 176 00:07:07,526 --> 00:07:08,661 - Which time? 177 00:07:08,694 --> 00:07:09,862 - Did you? - No. 178 00:07:09,896 --> 00:07:11,865 And that is a big part of this whole-- 179 00:07:11,898 --> 00:07:14,339 All of these lawsuits 180 00:07:14,670 --> 00:07:15,869 that are being alleged. - Well, the big question is: 181 00:07:15,901 --> 00:07:17,470 did you know 182 00:07:17,504 --> 00:07:20,673 that there was liability when you left him? 183 00:07:20,706 --> 00:07:24,438 Did you feel that the ship was sinking 184 00:07:24,439 --> 00:07:25,612 and you were about to go down with it, 185 00:07:25,644 --> 00:07:26,913 and you had to get out at that time? 186 00:07:26,946 --> 00:07:30,783 - I felt like he was sinking, not necessarily "the ship." 187 00:07:30,817 --> 00:07:32,786 There was no talking to this person. 188 00:07:32,819 --> 00:07:35,654 Trying to get him to answer my questions, 189 00:07:35,689 --> 00:07:38,692 being shut out completely--anger, 190 00:07:38,725 --> 00:07:40,528 personality changes. 191 00:07:40,529 --> 00:07:42,661 And you can see now--look, the man is in a home. 192 00:07:42,696 --> 00:07:44,531 He's in a memory care facility. 193 00:07:44,564 --> 00:07:46,832 We've all seen the pictures of him with the black eye. 194 00:07:46,865 --> 00:07:48,500 - Right. 195 00:07:48,534 --> 00:07:51,237 - We've seen how disheveled and how absolutely horrible 196 00:07:51,271 --> 00:07:53,939 he has deteriorated since I left in November. 197 00:07:53,973 --> 00:07:58,778 So, what I have been saying is true. 198 00:07:58,779 --> 00:08:01,139 It's not unusual in Tom's business for him to be sued. 199 00:08:01,470 --> 00:08:04,584 But when Erika Girardi started ending up on lawsuits, 200 00:08:04,617 --> 00:08:06,519 that's when my ears were pricked. 201 00:08:06,860 --> 00:08:09,506 You remember I--it was Denise's first reunion, 202 00:08:09,507 --> 00:08:12,250 and I think that you brought up I was being sued. 203 00:08:12,579 --> 00:08:15,627 - Monty from Nevada said, "Erika's happy to talk about 204 00:08:15,661 --> 00:08:18,309 "Lisa Vanderpump all day, but when it comes to Tom 205 00:08:18,310 --> 00:08:22,535 defaulting on a $15 million loan, she doesn't say a word." 206 00:08:22,569 --> 00:08:25,672 - How about this? Resolved, and they apologized. 207 00:08:25,704 --> 00:08:27,206 You have to understand something. 208 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,543 It's like a wall of people around this man. 209 00:08:30,576 --> 00:08:33,459 You have many lawyer-- 210 00:08:33,460 --> 00:08:36,548 That I can only access a certain part of it. 211 00:08:36,582 --> 00:08:37,683 - Did you call people 212 00:08:37,716 --> 00:08:38,884 at the firm and say... - No. 213 00:08:38,918 --> 00:08:40,253 - "Am I on the hook for this?" - No. 214 00:08:40,286 --> 00:08:42,500 I called lawyers that I knew, yes. 215 00:08:42,501 --> 00:08:44,157 - And they said what? - Hold on. 216 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:46,893 I am not at liberty to say what 217 00:08:46,926 --> 00:08:49,596 and at what time I sought legal counsel. 218 00:08:49,629 --> 00:08:51,197 - Okay. - Okay? 219 00:08:51,230 --> 00:08:52,798 - Let me go back to some viewer questions. 220 00:08:52,831 --> 00:08:54,634 Celeste from Odessa, Texas said, 221 00:08:54,668 --> 00:08:57,202 "Erika, it's been ten months since you filed for divorce, 222 00:08:57,236 --> 00:08:58,705 "and there's no money to fight over. 223 00:08:58,738 --> 00:09:00,206 Why hasn't your divorce been finalized yet?" 224 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,609 - Competency hearing. - "Is his conservatorship 225 00:09:02,642 --> 00:09:04,277 the reason your divorce has been delayed?" 226 00:09:04,309 --> 00:09:05,611 - Yes. Yes. 227 00:09:05,644 --> 00:09:06,745 - Liz Poppy tweeted, 228 00:09:06,779 --> 00:09:09,783 "Why did you lie to Garcelle about Tom's infidelity? 229 00:09:09,816 --> 00:09:12,850 You told her point-blank there were no other women." 230 00:09:12,851 --> 00:09:14,721 - Because of who it was. 231 00:09:14,754 --> 00:09:16,623 But just a little 'nother nugget, 232 00:09:16,655 --> 00:09:18,240 there was--there were others. 233 00:09:18,580 --> 00:09:19,259 - How many mistresses 234 00:09:19,292 --> 00:09:21,427 do you think he had during the marriage? 235 00:09:21,461 --> 00:09:23,128 - I know of three. 236 00:09:23,129 --> 00:09:25,764 - Did you confront him about each one? 237 00:09:25,798 --> 00:09:28,340 - Two. One I found out on the day that I left. 238 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:29,601 - Wow. - Yeah. 239 00:09:29,635 --> 00:09:31,369 - How? - I went through his phone, 240 00:09:31,370 --> 00:09:32,739 and she had sent a picture of her tits. 241 00:09:32,772 --> 00:09:34,774 And he has a flip phone, you know, so I responded, 242 00:09:34,807 --> 00:09:35,875 "Nice tits, stupid bitch." 243 00:09:35,908 --> 00:09:38,144 But I couldn't even figure out how to put a space, 244 00:09:38,177 --> 00:09:39,879 so it was like-like a run-on sentence. 245 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:41,280 [laughter] 246 00:09:41,313 --> 00:09:43,450 - Right, because you have used to have to go down... 247 00:09:43,482 --> 00:09:44,850 - I don't know how to do it! - Flip phone! 248 00:09:44,884 --> 00:09:46,586 - I mean, this is the truth. You wanted it? 249 00:09:46,619 --> 00:09:48,539 Here it is. I'm sorry. 250 00:09:49,288 --> 00:09:50,823 - Coming up next... 251 00:09:50,856 --> 00:09:52,959 "I clicked on the auction for Tom's law firm. 252 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:55,894 "Almost choked when I saw those panties for sale. 253 00:09:55,928 --> 00:09:58,697 "Please explain to me why there were lacy panties 254 00:09:58,731 --> 00:10:00,200 in your husband's desk drawer?" 255 00:10:09,642 --> 00:10:10,876 [up-tempo music] 256 00:10:11,711 --> 00:10:14,179 - Wyatt from Springdale, Arkansas said, 257 00:10:14,214 --> 00:10:18,217 "Kyle, what rumors did you hear about Tom's affairs, 258 00:10:18,250 --> 00:10:21,221 and why didn't you tell Erika about them earlier?" 259 00:10:21,254 --> 00:10:23,822 - [sighs] You know-- - Go ahead, babe. It's fine. 260 00:10:23,856 --> 00:10:25,291 - No. But you know, you hear rumblings-- 261 00:10:25,325 --> 00:10:26,658 - You told--you told Erika that... 262 00:10:26,692 --> 00:10:28,161 - No. - You had heard rumblings. 263 00:10:28,193 --> 00:10:31,197 - No. Maybe--there was little hints--like, people say 264 00:10:31,230 --> 00:10:33,330 Erika acted like everything was great. 265 00:10:33,659 --> 00:10:34,868 She would give little hints that things weren't so great. 266 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:37,299 I could feel that she wasn't always happy. 267 00:10:37,370 --> 00:10:38,937 You know, she'd make a little joke here and there. 268 00:10:38,971 --> 00:10:40,730 Like, Mauricio's calling to check, she's like, 269 00:10:40,105 --> 00:10:42,375 "Would be nice if Tom" -- You know, things like that. 270 00:10:42,408 --> 00:10:44,277 I could always feel that he wasn't kind to her. 271 00:10:44,309 --> 00:10:45,912 He really wasn't. And then I would hear 272 00:10:45,945 --> 00:10:47,713 these little stories, too, on the sides. 273 00:10:47,746 --> 00:10:49,349 But we hear so many rumors about so many people... 274 00:10:49,381 --> 00:10:50,683 - Yeah. - Oh, my gosh. 275 00:10:50,716 --> 00:10:51,850 - I would think, "Oh, who even cares." 276 00:10:51,884 --> 00:10:53,286 - You just hear tons of rumors. 277 00:10:53,318 --> 00:10:55,210 - Well, I started piecing it together a little bit, 278 00:10:55,549 --> 00:10:57,230 but of course I didn't have anything clear and, 279 00:10:57,570 --> 00:11:00,360 you know--until she actually came out and shared it. 280 00:11:00,393 --> 00:11:03,229 - Scarlett from Las Vegas said, "Erika, were you drunk 281 00:11:03,263 --> 00:11:05,648 "when you posted about Tom's mistress 282 00:11:05,649 --> 00:11:06,365 on Instagram? What were you thinking?" 283 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:08,234 - No I was--I was angry. - You were angry. 284 00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:09,903 - I was angry. And I'll tell you why, 285 00:11:09,936 --> 00:11:11,705 because everyone was saying, 286 00:11:11,738 --> 00:11:13,605 "Erika has this money." - It's a sham. 287 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:14,740 - Yeah. - "The divorce is a shame." 288 00:11:14,774 --> 00:11:17,943 "This is a thing for the two of them to hide assets." 289 00:11:17,976 --> 00:11:20,245 I was like, mother----er no, it's not. 290 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:22,981 As a matter of fact, this is what's going on. 291 00:11:23,830 --> 00:11:25,849 - I get the anger. - Anger. 292 00:11:25,850 --> 00:11:26,318 - I get it. 293 00:11:26,352 --> 00:11:28,878 - Dina from Philadelphia said, "Erika, 294 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:30,823 "I clicked on the auction for Tom's law firm. 295 00:11:30,856 --> 00:11:33,659 "Almost choked when I saw those panties for sale. 296 00:11:33,692 --> 00:11:36,196 "Please explain to me why there were lacy panties 297 00:11:36,229 --> 00:11:38,898 in your husband's desk drawer." - Can I tell you something? 298 00:11:38,932 --> 00:11:41,234 That was the first time I saw it too. 299 00:11:41,267 --> 00:11:42,668 They were definitely not mine. 300 00:11:42,701 --> 00:11:44,269 Who knows who he had bought them for? 301 00:11:44,303 --> 00:11:45,938 But clearly... - Oh, my God. 302 00:11:45,971 --> 00:11:48,107 - It was perhaps a Valentine's Day setup, because... 303 00:11:48,140 --> 00:11:50,342 - I'm done. - It was dated in January, 304 00:11:50,376 --> 00:11:53,113 and then February was the 14th. 305 00:11:53,145 --> 00:11:54,980 Don't know. They weren't mind. 306 00:11:55,149 --> 00:11:58,217 - Erika, Lucille from Buffalo said, "If you were kept away 307 00:11:58,250 --> 00:11:59,885 "from your own finances, 308 00:11:59,918 --> 00:12:02,154 "how were you able to close out parts of your life 309 00:12:02,187 --> 00:12:05,924 and rent a house, lease a car, and move without Tom knowing?" 310 00:12:05,958 --> 00:12:07,927 - Not able to answer that question. 311 00:12:07,961 --> 00:12:11,639 But it was well within legal bounds. 312 00:12:11,970 --> 00:12:14,299 I did nothing wrong, but I'm not gonna answer that question. 313 00:12:14,333 --> 00:12:16,689 - June from Muncie, Indiana 314 00:12:16,690 --> 00:12:18,171 said, "I saw tabloid photos of you 315 00:12:18,203 --> 00:12:21,307 "wearing your Cartier ring boarding a private jet. 316 00:12:21,341 --> 00:12:24,744 Are you completely insensitive or just clueless?" 317 00:12:24,778 --> 00:12:25,745 - Neither. 318 00:12:25,778 --> 00:12:29,182 I was invited on a trip, and that's where I went. 319 00:12:29,215 --> 00:12:31,684 - Not at your-- - Not at my expense. No. 320 00:12:31,717 --> 00:12:33,852 - You did not pay for the jet. - No. 321 00:12:33,886 --> 00:12:36,188 - Ladies, Millie from Appleton, Wisconsin said, 322 00:12:36,221 --> 00:12:38,424 "At Erika's astrology party last year, 323 00:12:38,457 --> 00:12:40,527 Tom wasn't missing a beat..." 324 00:12:40,528 --> 00:12:42,828 - Pat Wayne got me in a movie in high school. 325 00:12:42,861 --> 00:12:44,129 - It was a Western. 326 00:12:44,163 --> 00:12:46,865 - So I got shot off the roof and fell down. 327 00:12:46,899 --> 00:12:49,836 - Did you have a stunt double? - No, it was all me. 328 00:12:49,869 --> 00:12:52,138 [laughter] 329 00:12:52,172 --> 00:12:53,840 - You're a really good storyteller. 330 00:12:53,873 --> 00:12:54,774 - I know! - Isn't he? 331 00:12:54,807 --> 00:12:56,909 - Do you get it? - Yeah. You get it, right? 332 00:12:56,942 --> 00:12:58,345 - Oh, I got it from the moment--yes. 333 00:12:58,378 --> 00:13:00,212 - People always go--and I go... - No. 334 00:13:00,245 --> 00:13:01,780 - "Just meet the man." - Totally. 335 00:13:01,815 --> 00:13:05,150 - "And now he's in sudden decline? How can that be?" 336 00:13:09,154 --> 00:13:11,291 - He's on a loop. 337 00:13:11,323 --> 00:13:13,493 Saying the same stories over and over. 338 00:13:13,525 --> 00:13:15,327 - Okay. - He's a master persuader 339 00:13:15,361 --> 00:13:16,830 and a master performer. 340 00:13:16,863 --> 00:13:19,899 He could not have told you anyone's name here. 341 00:13:19,932 --> 00:13:21,267 Not a soul. 342 00:13:21,301 --> 00:13:23,403 But he certainly could sit there and entertain. 343 00:13:23,436 --> 00:13:26,719 Will you please tell me what your friend said? 344 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,874 - Jen. - Thank you. 345 00:13:27,907 --> 00:13:30,876 - Yeah, so, my friend watching that episode said--and her mom 346 00:13:30,909 --> 00:13:32,245 has severe dementia now. 347 00:13:32,278 --> 00:13:35,981 And she said, "I'm telling you, I'm seeing similarities in Tom 348 00:13:36,820 --> 00:13:38,817 as I do in my mom. There's a vacancy I'm seeing." 349 00:13:38,851 --> 00:13:40,419 - Yes. - And she said, 350 00:13:40,452 --> 00:13:42,322 "They can be like that one moment--clear 351 00:13:42,355 --> 00:13:44,957 "and talking--and then the next moment, nothing, 352 00:13:44,990 --> 00:13:46,393 "or, you know, she gets confused 353 00:13:46,426 --> 00:13:47,860 about which child, this and that." 354 00:13:47,894 --> 00:13:49,461 - Thank you. - Hearing what she just said 355 00:13:49,495 --> 00:13:52,131 right now actually makes so much sense, 356 00:13:52,164 --> 00:13:53,365 because that's what he was doing. 357 00:13:53,399 --> 00:13:54,466 He was regaling us with stories. 358 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:55,335 - Yes. 359 00:13:55,368 --> 00:13:56,769 - And they were not current stories. 360 00:13:56,802 --> 00:13:57,870 - Right. - That he's told 361 00:13:57,903 --> 00:13:58,937 over and over again. - Exactly. 362 00:13:58,971 --> 00:14:00,240 - And you could tell that those stories he's told 363 00:14:00,273 --> 00:14:01,274 over and over. Both: Old stories. 364 00:14:01,307 --> 00:14:02,207 - Because that's what he remembers. 365 00:14:02,241 --> 00:14:03,208 - That's right. And they start to remember 366 00:14:03,243 --> 00:14:04,769 that--the older they get... - The old stuff. 367 00:14:04,110 --> 00:14:04,943 - They start to remember and tell... 368 00:14:05,450 --> 00:14:06,913 - They remember the old stuff. - Yes! 369 00:14:06,946 --> 00:14:08,347 - The old stores. - A they cannot tell you... 370 00:14:08,380 --> 00:14:10,499 - Because that's hat my mom does. 371 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:11,283 - What day it is today. Right. - That's what Lois does. 372 00:14:11,317 --> 00:14:12,885 - Lois does. She tells you the older things. 373 00:14:12,918 --> 00:14:14,220 - Yeah. - And they're on a loop. 374 00:14:14,254 --> 00:14:16,489 - Yeah. - Riley from Pittsburgh said, 375 00:14:16,523 --> 00:14:19,525 "Erika, you say Tom changed after the accident 376 00:14:19,558 --> 00:14:21,260 "and displayed signs of Alzheimer's. 377 00:14:21,293 --> 00:14:23,328 "If you didn't know what he was doing, 378 00:14:23,363 --> 00:14:26,466 "why would you divorce him when he was clearly sick? 379 00:14:26,499 --> 00:14:28,934 "He supported you for 20 years and finally needed 380 00:14:28,967 --> 00:14:30,470 your support, and you just left him." 381 00:14:30,503 --> 00:14:32,138 - That's not true. 382 00:14:32,172 --> 00:14:36,142 It is not fair to say he got Alzheimer's and I split. 383 00:14:36,176 --> 00:14:41,280 The Alzheimer's and dementia is a part of what was going on. 384 00:14:41,313 --> 00:14:45,918 Even in this accident that people seem think--whatever-- 385 00:14:45,951 --> 00:14:48,878 I was the one that found him. 386 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:50,222 I was the one that took him to the hospital. 387 00:14:50,255 --> 00:14:52,918 I was the one that did not allow him 388 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:53,393 to go under anesthesia 389 00:14:53,426 --> 00:14:55,461 after having been unconscious for hours. 390 00:14:55,495 --> 00:14:57,596 I took a picture of the breaks. 391 00:14:57,629 --> 00:15:00,166 I sent them to my dearest friend, 392 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,333 who is an orthopedic surgeon, 393 00:15:01,368 --> 00:15:04,504 and I said, "Is this immediate? Do we need to do this? 394 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,438 "'Cause I don't want this man, at this age, 395 00:15:06,472 --> 00:15:07,606 "with these head injuries, 396 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:09,142 to go under anesthesia right now." 397 00:15:09,174 --> 00:15:11,439 And he said, "No. I'll fix it next week. 398 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,881 Go home." I took him home. I did everything I humanly, 399 00:15:15,914 --> 00:15:19,184 possibly could to do right by him. 400 00:15:19,219 --> 00:15:22,120 [dramatic music] 401 00:15:22,121 --> 00:15:25,580 Sorry. I don't--I'm not angry. I'm angry. 402 00:15:28,961 --> 00:15:31,398 - Coming up... "Kyle, Dorit, Garcelle, 403 00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:35,235 "and even Carlton have accused you of talking over people. 404 00:15:35,268 --> 00:15:38,971 Do you ever think maybe the problem is you and not Dorit?" 405 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,140 - Finally. - Who's Carlton? 406 00:15:50,115 --> 00:15:51,484 - Sorry. I don't-- I'm not angry. I'm angry. 407 00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:54,120 - No, I'm actually happy hearing these details, 408 00:15:54,153 --> 00:15:55,522 'cause we haven't heard these details... 409 00:15:55,554 --> 00:15:57,898 - No, I know. - Until right now. 410 00:15:57,899 --> 00:16:00,258 - I know. But this is what has been happening. 411 00:16:00,259 --> 00:16:02,261 I protected that man. Okay? 412 00:16:02,294 --> 00:16:06,319 I reached out to many doctors, 413 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,340 and I was blown off more than once. 414 00:16:08,679 --> 00:16:09,702 One time, I was even told by a physician, 415 00:16:09,735 --> 00:16:11,136 "I don't want to get involved, 416 00:16:11,171 --> 00:16:12,639 because I don't want Tom to sue me." 417 00:16:12,672 --> 00:16:16,109 Okay, people still feared this man. 418 00:16:16,142 --> 00:16:17,677 - Sarah from Washington, Illinois said, 419 00:16:17,711 --> 00:16:19,511 "Erika, how can you be hurt Tom said 420 00:16:19,546 --> 00:16:22,182 "someone could have you if they could afford you? 421 00:16:22,215 --> 00:16:23,682 "You literally have a song called 422 00:16:23,716 --> 00:16:25,284 'It's Expensive to Be Me.'" 423 00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:27,586 - Right. I don't think we should dig in too much 424 00:16:27,620 --> 00:16:30,155 to an over-the-top, campy, dance song. 425 00:16:30,190 --> 00:16:33,259 Let's not over-analyze it. It was a fun piece. 426 00:16:33,293 --> 00:16:36,929 I'm not Bob Dylan over here giving--you know. 427 00:16:36,962 --> 00:16:38,197 I'm entertaining, baby. 428 00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:39,665 - Okay. It's--that's--it's established. 429 00:16:39,698 --> 00:16:41,368 - It's not that deep, okay? - Okay. Okay. 430 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,104 Rosario from Galveston said, "Erika, you married a man 431 00:16:45,105 --> 00:16:47,706 "who funded a very expensive performing career, 432 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:51,577 "a career you've always wanted. Knowing what you know now, 433 00:16:51,610 --> 00:16:54,447 would you have still married Tom?" 434 00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:57,584 - [exhales deeply] 435 00:17:00,452 --> 00:17:02,589 I'm at a place where I don't quite know 436 00:17:02,621 --> 00:17:04,123 who I was married to. 437 00:17:04,124 --> 00:17:05,258 - Wow. 438 00:17:05,290 --> 00:17:08,361 - Because there are good parts and there are bad parts. 439 00:17:08,394 --> 00:17:11,730 And I'm trying to--much like everyone else around me, 440 00:17:11,765 --> 00:17:16,568 trying to figure out what the (BLEEP) happened. 441 00:17:16,603 --> 00:17:19,739 In the law firm and in my personal life 442 00:17:19,772 --> 00:17:21,441 and the things that I'm finding out, 443 00:17:21,473 --> 00:17:23,643 there are moments I am overwhelmed, 444 00:17:23,676 --> 00:17:28,682 I am sad, I am heartbroken, and then I am bewildered, 445 00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:33,286 truly, where I'm like, what was real? How about that? 446 00:17:33,318 --> 00:17:36,623 - Do you think Tom loved you? - I do. I do. 447 00:17:36,655 --> 00:17:41,594 I think he loved me, and then I think things happened... 448 00:17:41,627 --> 00:17:44,431 - What happened? - To him. I think he changed. 449 00:17:44,463 --> 00:17:47,599 I think we all change, like marriages change. 450 00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:49,501 - Did you love him? - I did. 451 00:17:49,536 --> 00:17:53,405 And I think you can see it. You know? 452 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,476 - I guess what everybody's fixated on 453 00:17:56,509 --> 00:17:59,211 is whether he ripped off all these people. 454 00:17:59,244 --> 00:18:02,382 - Right. - And so, let's fixate on that 455 00:18:02,414 --> 00:18:06,653 for a minute. And tell me where you put that, 456 00:18:06,685 --> 00:18:09,388 in terms of your feelings for him. 457 00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:12,692 - I really and truly hope that is not true, 458 00:18:12,726 --> 00:18:14,594 because that is not the man that I married. 459 00:18:14,626 --> 00:18:15,795 - Do you think there's a chance 460 00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:17,463 that it is not true? - Yes. 461 00:18:17,497 --> 00:18:19,298 - It doesn't look good. - It does not looking good. 462 00:18:19,332 --> 00:18:23,103 However, we still need to get to the bottom of it. 463 00:18:23,135 --> 00:18:25,672 Only one side of the story has been told. 464 00:18:25,704 --> 00:18:29,808 - When you look and you read about the allegations 465 00:18:29,843 --> 00:18:32,412 that are being made about him, your name is in there. 466 00:18:32,444 --> 00:18:33,712 - Yes. - All over the place. 467 00:18:33,747 --> 00:18:35,480 - Yes. 468 00:18:35,809 --> 00:18:37,250 - What do you want people to know 469 00:18:37,282 --> 00:18:40,286 about your emotions relating to that? 470 00:18:40,319 --> 00:18:44,356 - I feel terrible. This is not who I am. 471 00:18:44,391 --> 00:18:47,292 And I hope this is not who he is. 472 00:18:47,326 --> 00:18:49,229 - You still believe that that could be-- 473 00:18:49,261 --> 00:18:53,660 - No. I said I hope that is-- this has not happened. 474 00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:55,535 I hope that he has not done what is alleged here. 475 00:18:57,237 --> 00:19:01,807 I am sitting here trying to, A, number one, 476 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,278 gather all of the information, and fight my way out of it. 477 00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:07,780 And that's all I can do. 478 00:19:07,814 --> 00:19:09,883 - Sutton didn't even know she owned a baseball team. 479 00:19:09,915 --> 00:19:11,483 - No. 480 00:19:11,518 --> 00:19:14,253 - That's right. But that's what divorce does. 481 00:19:14,287 --> 00:19:16,722 - Yes. It reveals the ugly part 482 00:19:16,756 --> 00:19:19,625 of--or the hidden part of our partners. 483 00:19:19,659 --> 00:19:21,694 - That's what I was talking about with forensic... 484 00:19:21,728 --> 00:19:23,863 - Accounting. - Accounting. 485 00:19:23,896 --> 00:19:25,865 - I am one of many. 486 00:19:25,898 --> 00:19:29,368 If I could show you my DMs of women that have reached out 487 00:19:29,402 --> 00:19:32,338 to me that say--been in similar situations, 488 00:19:32,372 --> 00:19:35,909 married to a businessman--you know, some lady found--like, 489 00:19:35,942 --> 00:19:38,478 she owned, you know, multiple homes. 490 00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:40,447 I mean, you know, so, it happens. 491 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,549 And that's, I think, also hard for people to understand. 492 00:19:43,583 --> 00:19:45,352 You know, if you've never seen it, then you go, 493 00:19:45,384 --> 00:19:46,685 "Well, how could you not know? 494 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,253 - Well, I think it becomes more difficult 495 00:19:48,288 --> 00:19:51,257 for people to understand when it's allegedly 496 00:19:51,290 --> 00:19:52,424 other people's money... - Right. 497 00:19:52,459 --> 00:19:53,559 - That's part of the equation. - Exactly. 498 00:19:53,593 --> 00:19:57,230 And what's the bankruptcy trustee is getting down to. 499 00:19:57,262 --> 00:20:00,299 You know, they've got to sort out what money 500 00:20:00,333 --> 00:20:03,435 was supposed to go where. - Wow. 501 00:20:03,470 --> 00:20:05,538 - And at this point, quite honestly, 502 00:20:05,571 --> 00:20:07,606 I have to worry about myself. 503 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,344 Whatever Tom Girardi did or did not do, that's on him. 504 00:20:11,377 --> 00:20:14,446 But I know that a lot of his decision-making 505 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,316 is being pointing this way now. 506 00:20:16,348 --> 00:20:19,285 - Yes. - His life is over. 507 00:20:19,318 --> 00:20:21,855 He's in his 80s. He's in a memory care facility. 508 00:20:21,887 --> 00:20:24,624 His career is over and done. I just turned 50. 509 00:20:24,656 --> 00:20:28,928 I cannot allow all of this to destroy me 510 00:20:28,961 --> 00:20:30,864 and take me to a place that I cannot recover. 511 00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:32,798 I have to survive this. 512 00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:36,670 So, that's why I'm feisty. 513 00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:43,576 Sorry. Hold on. Give me that tissue. 514 00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:46,613 But that's--that's why. 515 00:20:46,645 --> 00:20:49,348 [soft music] 516 00:20:49,382 --> 00:20:52,852 - All right. Well, we're gonna get into more of what happened 517 00:20:52,885 --> 00:20:54,820 after you left Tom in a little bit. 518 00:20:54,854 --> 00:20:55,721 - Okay. 519 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,833 [upbeat music] 520 00:21:07,232 --> 00:21:08,634 - Welcome back. 521 00:21:08,667 --> 00:21:10,903 Crystal, your housekeeper Lucy 522 00:21:10,936 --> 00:21:13,239 has made an impression. - Yes. 523 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:14,907 - She's the ultimate fashion police. 524 00:21:14,941 --> 00:21:17,277 - Do you like this? 525 00:21:17,309 --> 00:21:19,179 - Lucy, it's not ugly. - What you think of this one? 526 00:21:19,211 --> 00:21:20,480 Ugh! 527 00:21:20,512 --> 00:21:22,915 - How did she feel about your reunion look? 528 00:21:22,949 --> 00:21:24,651 - I didn't show it to her, 529 00:21:24,683 --> 00:21:26,385 'cause she probably would have said something insulting. 530 00:21:26,419 --> 00:21:27,854 And I just didn't want to think about it. 531 00:21:27,886 --> 00:21:29,288 - Oh, no! - No, I'm kidding. 532 00:21:29,321 --> 00:21:30,656 - Right. - I love her. 533 00:21:30,690 --> 00:21:32,991 - Dorit, Kaitlyn from Gresham, Oregon 534 00:21:33,930 --> 00:21:35,528 thinks your wedding dress designs are stunning. 535 00:21:35,561 --> 00:21:37,864 But who can afford a $30,000 wedding dress? 536 00:21:37,896 --> 00:21:39,932 - This is, like, one of our most expensive dresses. 537 00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:41,835 I want to say like $35,000. 538 00:21:41,867 --> 00:21:43,970 - $35,000? 539 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,739 - First of all, it's a luxury brand. 540 00:21:45,771 --> 00:21:47,507 That just happened to be the jewel of the collection. 541 00:21:47,539 --> 00:21:51,544 Most of the dresses are about, you know, $6,000 to $8,000. 542 00:21:51,577 --> 00:21:55,714 - Well, Dorit, you certainly have a gift--a gift of gab. 543 00:21:55,749 --> 00:21:57,951 And it's a gift that keeps on giving... 544 00:21:57,983 --> 00:21:59,352 - Yep. - And giving and giving. 545 00:21:59,385 --> 00:22:00,653 - And I'm proud of it. 546 00:22:00,686 --> 00:22:03,522 - I could go on, and frankly, so could she. 547 00:22:03,556 --> 00:22:05,525 So let's just roll the package. - [laughs] 548 00:22:05,557 --> 00:22:06,893 - All right, let's go around the table. 549 00:22:06,925 --> 00:22:08,560 All: Oh! - Let's go around, 550 00:22:08,595 --> 00:22:11,463 and one word that you think of yourself. Go. 551 00:22:11,498 --> 00:22:14,366 - I'm hard-working. 552 00:22:14,401 --> 00:22:16,635 - Dorit, you forgot talkative. 553 00:22:16,670 --> 00:22:20,606 - You tend to hijack the moment and just go on and on and on. 554 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,375 And I have a problem when you won't let anybody else speak. 555 00:22:23,410 --> 00:22:25,310 - Normally it takes people a couple steps 556 00:22:25,345 --> 00:22:27,513 to get to their point, but Dorit, it's a car, 557 00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:30,349 it's a train, it's a plane, it's a connecting flight. 558 00:22:30,383 --> 00:22:33,420 - Do I need to be directly, like, Dorit? 559 00:22:33,452 --> 00:22:34,554 - Direct? Yeah. 560 00:22:34,586 --> 00:22:35,855 - Probably. - With her? 561 00:22:35,888 --> 00:22:38,290 - My God, will you shut up? 562 00:22:38,324 --> 00:22:40,393 - Sispann pale. Stop talking. 563 00:22:40,426 --> 00:22:41,627 Why am I looking at you, Dorit? 564 00:22:41,661 --> 00:22:43,930 - Yell, well-- how many languages 565 00:22:43,962 --> 00:22:45,731 do you want to tell me to shut up in? 566 00:22:45,765 --> 00:22:47,267 [laughter] 567 00:22:48,601 --> 00:22:50,869 - You take a lot of crap. - I take a lot of crap, 568 00:22:50,903 --> 00:22:52,572 and I've taken a lot of crap for years. 569 00:22:52,605 --> 00:22:54,973 I think I'm an easy target. Yes. 570 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:56,509 - Why? - I do--I am longwinded. 571 00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:57,911 - Right. Okay. 572 00:22:57,943 --> 00:22:59,945 - But I don't feel like I hijack conversations. 573 00:23:00,460 --> 00:23:03,516 People would say that I give a lot of detail, and I do. 574 00:23:03,549 --> 00:23:04,851 - Got it. - But you know, 575 00:23:04,884 --> 00:23:06,653 I'm a very detail-orientated person. 576 00:23:06,685 --> 00:23:11,458 - Did anything that you saw about your talking upset you? 577 00:23:11,490 --> 00:23:13,660 - If it's not done in a malicious way, 578 00:23:13,692 --> 00:23:15,828 I think you can do it. And I like that. 579 00:23:15,862 --> 00:23:19,298 I like being able to have that banter with my friends. 580 00:23:22,836 --> 00:23:24,371 Am I boring you? 581 00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:27,729 - I'm sorry. I just swallowed a yawn. 582 00:23:27,730 --> 00:23:28,741 But you are not boring me whatsoever. 583 00:23:28,775 --> 00:23:30,343 - You're never boring, honey. 584 00:23:30,376 --> 00:23:33,445 - Kyle, Noelle from Syracuse said, "Dorit, Garcelle, 585 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,650 "and even Carlton have accused you of talking over people. 586 00:23:37,683 --> 00:23:40,953 Do you ever think maybe the problem is you and not Dorit?" 587 00:23:40,987 --> 00:23:42,989 - Finally. Voice of reason. 588 00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:44,624 - Who's Carlton? 589 00:23:44,656 --> 00:23:46,425 - Exactly. Anyway. - Well. 590 00:23:46,459 --> 00:23:47,594 - When they-- When the tabloids-- 591 00:23:47,626 --> 00:23:48,994 - Yes, but I'm sorry when I-- - Hold on, let me talk. 592 00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:51,698 Let me talk... - No, I won't. - For one second. - No, and don't you dare 593 00:23:51,730 --> 00:23:53,967 command me, you don't ----ing dare command me. 594 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,435 - Those are completely different scenarios 595 00:23:56,469 --> 00:23:59,572 and situations, so you cannot compare the two. 596 00:23:59,605 --> 00:24:01,441 - Jordan from Idaho said, 597 00:24:01,473 --> 00:24:02,741 "Crystal, you were in the middle of Dorit 598 00:24:02,776 --> 00:24:04,344 and Kyle's argument on the plane." 599 00:24:12,152 --> 00:24:13,853 - "Who was in the wrong?" 600 00:24:16,189 --> 00:24:18,692 - Yeah, Crystal. - [clears throat] 601 00:24:18,724 --> 00:24:20,598 - Why are you, like--like, 602 00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:21,827 turning to me very aggressively right now? 603 00:24:21,861 --> 00:24:23,630 - Dorit's like, "If you don't side with me, 604 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,431 you're gonna get it." 605 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:25,664 - They fight truly like sisters. 606 00:24:25,699 --> 00:24:27,099 And they make up like sisters. 607 00:24:27,133 --> 00:24:29,469 So I'm just gonna--I'm gonna call it an even... 608 00:24:29,501 --> 00:24:31,938 - Garcelle, what do you think? - I'm gonna have to say Dorit, 609 00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:34,673 because we were just talking about how Dorit is longwinded. 610 00:24:34,708 --> 00:24:36,476 - Wesley from Stowe, Vermont said, 611 00:24:36,509 --> 00:24:38,811 "Dorit, you put your foot in your mouth when you said 612 00:24:38,845 --> 00:24:41,480 it isn't just brown people who work for you." 613 00:24:41,513 --> 00:24:43,115 - We've had a lot of people that work for us 614 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:45,848 that are very multi-cultural. 615 00:24:45,849 --> 00:24:47,921 I've had a lot of Black and Hispanic and Filipino. 616 00:24:47,953 --> 00:24:50,824 And my kids are used to it. I mean, some of the people 617 00:24:50,856 --> 00:24:54,693 they've loved most in this world are dark-skinned. 618 00:24:54,728 --> 00:24:57,564 - Didn't you realize how wrong it was to say that? 619 00:24:57,596 --> 00:25:01,901 - You know, I was answering a direct question from Garcelle. 620 00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:05,137 And sometimes I use words poorly. 621 00:25:05,171 --> 00:25:06,605 This was one of those instances. 622 00:25:06,638 --> 00:25:08,508 And I wish I could have taken in back. 623 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:11,440 But I don't take back the sentiment and what I meant, 624 00:25:11,769 --> 00:25:13,680 which is I was raised with a lot of diversity. 625 00:25:13,712 --> 00:25:15,214 I'm raising my kids the same way. 626 00:25:15,248 --> 00:25:17,416 And it's not just people that work for us, 627 00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:20,452 it's also very, very close family friends 628 00:25:20,487 --> 00:25:22,721 that I've known way before I had kids. 629 00:25:22,756 --> 00:25:24,124 - Ketoiskaren tweeted, 630 00:25:24,156 --> 00:25:26,726 "What Garcelle asked went right over Dorit's head. 631 00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:29,162 "She didn't ask if you only staffed brown people, 632 00:25:29,194 --> 00:25:31,830 "she asked if the only brown folk you and your family know 633 00:25:31,865 --> 00:25:35,100 "are the ones who have to clean after y'all. 634 00:25:35,101 --> 00:25:38,710 Garcelle, is this an example of Dorit not listening?" 635 00:25:38,711 --> 00:25:42,241 - No, that night it was a tough conversation to have. 636 00:25:42,275 --> 00:25:44,768 It was uncomfortable for me. 637 00:25:44,769 --> 00:25:46,789 I'm sure it was uncomfortable for these ladies. 638 00:25:46,112 --> 00:25:47,747 And I didn't know how you took... 639 00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:49,949 - That's how you make progress. - What I said. 640 00:25:49,982 --> 00:25:52,951 - I liked what you said, because you explained 641 00:25:52,986 --> 00:25:54,753 and taught me something I didn't know. 642 00:25:54,788 --> 00:25:56,588 You know, Michael Jackson and I grew up together, 643 00:25:56,623 --> 00:25:59,625 and Michael said to me, "Kathy, I don't see color." 644 00:25:59,659 --> 00:26:01,928 I said, well, "Either do we." 645 00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:03,630 - I know you can see me as a woman. 646 00:26:03,663 --> 00:26:05,464 You can see me as a mother. You can see me as a friend. 647 00:26:05,498 --> 00:26:08,835 But if you don't see color, then you don't see me. 648 00:26:08,867 --> 00:26:10,703 - Sharing information--I think it's beautiful. 649 00:26:10,737 --> 00:26:11,904 - I do too. 650 00:26:11,938 --> 00:26:14,941 Everybody on social media takes everything so seriously... 651 00:26:15,410 --> 00:26:16,759 - Right. - All the time. 652 00:26:16,108 --> 00:26:17,844 And we were having a conversation, 653 00:26:17,876 --> 00:26:19,244 and we were sort of dissecting-- 654 00:26:19,278 --> 00:26:21,614 - Educational, I think. - It was very educational. 655 00:26:21,647 --> 00:26:22,816 And it was really great. 656 00:26:22,848 --> 00:26:24,483 And I love this aspect of the show, 657 00:26:24,517 --> 00:26:27,119 that we've been able to have these conversations. 658 00:26:27,153 --> 00:26:29,548 - We've been able to do it. Nobody else has. 659 00:26:29,549 --> 00:26:30,690 - But it was a tough conversation. 660 00:26:30,723 --> 00:26:32,491 It was an uncomfortable conversation. 661 00:26:32,525 --> 00:26:33,826 It really was. 662 00:26:33,859 --> 00:26:37,963 - Bria from Woodstock said, "Tell us straight--is your nose 663 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,532 as original as the vintage Dior in your closet?" 664 00:26:40,567 --> 00:26:43,769 - You know, I really, really want to make this point 665 00:26:43,802 --> 00:26:45,270 and get this straight, 666 00:26:45,305 --> 00:26:48,641 because this actually really hurt me. 667 00:26:48,674 --> 00:26:51,144 I went to the nose doctor with Kyle. 668 00:26:51,176 --> 00:26:53,313 - She went with me for my consultation as well, 669 00:26:53,346 --> 00:26:55,114 and he gave her an impromptu one. 670 00:26:55,115 --> 00:26:56,782 - Let's look at your nose carefully. 671 00:26:56,816 --> 00:26:58,917 Do you think it's wide from the front? 672 00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:00,653 - Well, now it looks really wide. 673 00:27:00,686 --> 00:27:02,219 - Okay. I agree with you. 674 00:27:02,220 --> 00:27:04,239 - [gasps] - Tip is a bit wide. 675 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,692 Now smile for me real big. 676 00:27:05,724 --> 00:27:08,528 See how your nose droops and you get a small hump there? 677 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,896 - See how you look like your grandmother's nose? 678 00:27:10,930 --> 00:27:13,732 - I've never had one, hand to God. 679 00:27:13,767 --> 00:27:16,201 And I would say if I had a nose job. 680 00:27:16,236 --> 00:27:18,171 I don't know why I have to constantly prove it. 681 00:27:18,203 --> 00:27:21,574 But I don't like the insinuation that I'm lying 682 00:27:21,607 --> 00:27:24,439 or that I'm not--I genuinely haven't. 683 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,179 - Brittany from Wilton, Connecticut said, "Garcelle, 684 00:27:26,211 --> 00:27:27,681 "do you think the Dorit goldfish 685 00:27:27,713 --> 00:27:30,215 talked the Kyle goldfish to death, literally?" 686 00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:31,550 - Oh! 687 00:27:31,584 --> 00:27:33,853 The black and white one is Dorit, 688 00:27:33,886 --> 00:27:36,558 because look at her. Fabulous. 689 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:37,757 Regular goldfish is Kyle. 690 00:27:37,790 --> 00:27:39,358 [laughing] - Oh, sh--. 691 00:27:39,392 --> 00:27:41,608 [laughter] - Oh, Lord. 692 00:27:41,609 --> 00:27:42,295 - We are gonna leave it there. 693 00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:44,639 We're gonna be right back after this. 694 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,265 Next... 695 00:27:45,298 --> 00:27:47,634 Rinna, I get why you didn't like the idea 696 00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:48,934 of Amelia dating Scott. 697 00:27:48,968 --> 00:27:51,770 Did you push her towards that decision? 698 00:27:51,805 --> 00:27:54,739 - You know, I'm so ----ing shady. 699 00:27:54,740 --> 00:27:55,875 [laughter] 700 00:28:03,316 --> 00:28:05,818 - Stand by, everyone; let's make sure everybody's in place. 701 00:28:06,219 --> 00:28:07,354 And queue Andy. 702 00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:10,559 - Welcome back 703 00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:13,893 to the "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" Reunion. 704 00:28:13,926 --> 00:28:17,630 Lisa, it was so fun seeing you and Eileen Davidson 705 00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:19,319 in "Beyond Salem" on Peacock. 706 00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:23,236 - You shut your damn mouth. 707 00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:25,805 I've had about enough of you, you beast! 708 00:28:28,674 --> 00:28:31,778 - Beast? How dare you! 709 00:28:31,810 --> 00:28:33,813 - You know, they kept all the good parts out of it. 710 00:28:33,846 --> 00:28:35,714 They didn't have the "beast" line in. 711 00:28:35,749 --> 00:28:37,750 - Just shut your ----ing mouth. - Excuse me. 712 00:28:37,784 --> 00:28:39,849 - I've had enough of you, you beast. 713 00:28:39,118 --> 00:28:40,319 - Beast? - Yes. 714 00:28:40,353 --> 00:28:42,121 - How dare you! 715 00:28:42,122 --> 00:28:44,624 - And Eileen and I were like, "You have to say 'beast.'" 716 00:28:44,656 --> 00:28:46,589 - Right. - "We have to say these words." 717 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,361 Anyway, it all came together, and it was a blast. 718 00:28:48,394 --> 00:28:50,396 We had so much fun. - It's really fun. 719 00:28:50,430 --> 00:28:52,980 Well, when the world slowed down, 720 00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:55,679 so did Lisa and Hamlin household. 721 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,836 And while Harry's gardening and cooking 722 00:28:56,869 --> 00:29:01,173 were nothing if not heavenly, it was Amelia's relationship 723 00:29:01,207 --> 00:29:04,810 that had everyone saying, "Oh, Lord." 724 00:29:04,844 --> 00:29:06,179 - Here we go. - Let's watch. 725 00:29:06,211 --> 00:29:07,646 - Here we go. 726 00:29:08,914 --> 00:29:11,169 Harry? - I'm down here. 727 00:29:11,170 --> 00:29:14,220 - Oh, look at your garden. Hey, we have a pumpkin! 728 00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:19,249 I have definitely formed a stronger dependency on Harry 729 00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:21,268 during these last ten months. 730 00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:23,296 - These are haricot verts, the French beans. 731 00:29:23,328 --> 00:29:25,832 - I love these. - Tomatoes look done. 732 00:29:25,865 --> 00:29:27,200 - Is this your compost thing? 733 00:29:27,232 --> 00:29:28,934 - That's my compost thing, yeah. 734 00:29:29,349 --> 00:29:30,804 - Do you put poop in there? 735 00:29:30,836 --> 00:29:33,390 [laughter] - No. 736 00:29:33,730 --> 00:29:35,409 - I cannot imagine what Harry Hamlin sees in me. 737 00:29:35,410 --> 00:29:36,419 I really can't. 738 00:29:36,420 --> 00:29:39,378 - Pick up the nozzle and run back here with it. 739 00:29:39,412 --> 00:29:40,814 All this has to happen in one minute. 740 00:29:40,846 --> 00:29:42,214 - I know. I know. - Good for you. 741 00:29:42,248 --> 00:29:43,750 - Ah! - Good for you. 742 00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:45,751 - I did it on my first try! - All right. 743 00:29:45,785 --> 00:29:48,822 - But I do know how to give a damn good blow job. 744 00:29:48,855 --> 00:29:50,323 [laughter] 745 00:29:50,356 --> 00:29:51,825 Whoo! 746 00:29:51,857 --> 00:29:53,926 I handle his hose quite well. 747 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,328 Harry is the domestic one. 748 00:29:56,363 --> 00:29:57,896 - This is so pretty. - So welcome to Positano. 749 00:29:57,931 --> 00:29:59,649 - Wow! - Wow! 750 00:29:59,650 --> 00:30:01,334 - Que bello! - This is gorgeous! 751 00:30:01,367 --> 00:30:02,868 Did you set this? 752 00:30:02,902 --> 00:30:04,436 Or did Lisa set this? I need to know these things. 753 00:30:04,471 --> 00:30:06,205 - She did nothing. 754 00:30:06,239 --> 00:30:07,807 - It would be very different in my house, let me tell you. 755 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,750 - My husband would never know how to do this. 756 00:30:09,751 --> 00:30:11,310 - I--never, in a million years. 757 00:30:11,344 --> 00:30:13,913 - We need to take Dad to dinner somewhere. 758 00:30:13,946 --> 00:30:15,214 - Okay. 759 00:30:19,885 --> 00:30:22,188 - We can talk about my daughter, 760 00:30:22,221 --> 00:30:25,357 who is linked to a guy named Scott Disick. 761 00:30:25,392 --> 00:30:28,294 And I was like, okay, come on. Right? Like, come on. 762 00:30:28,327 --> 00:30:30,363 Okay. Like, why can't it be Harry Styles? 763 00:30:30,396 --> 00:30:33,232 Why the (BLEEP) is it Scott Disick? 764 00:30:33,266 --> 00:30:35,099 - He's too damn old! - I know! 765 00:30:35,349 --> 00:30:37,299 - He's old. - And he's got three kids. 766 00:30:37,369 --> 00:30:38,471 - Would I be freaked out if I had a daughter 767 00:30:38,505 --> 00:30:40,807 that was dating an older man? No, I was the daughter 768 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:43,308 that was dating an older man all my life, so no. 769 00:30:43,343 --> 00:30:45,979 - Amelia's 19. That's how old I was when I had my first. 770 00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:47,212 Can you imagine? So, just so you know. 771 00:30:47,247 --> 00:30:49,490 - Oh! The terror. - [laughs] 772 00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:53,519 - [laughing] - No, no, no, no. No. No. 773 00:30:53,552 --> 00:30:55,855 - No, ma'am. - He's like, "Don't even play." 774 00:30:55,888 --> 00:30:57,257 - Bill from Manhattan 775 00:30:57,289 --> 00:30:59,358 wants to know why they called it quits 776 00:30:59,392 --> 00:31:02,429 and who pushed the eject button first? 777 00:31:02,461 --> 00:31:06,199 - I think you just have to read the press, and Amelia did. 778 00:31:06,231 --> 00:31:08,801 [laughter] 779 00:31:08,835 --> 00:31:12,271 - Can't control the mouth. - Were you glad she did? 780 00:31:12,305 --> 00:31:13,972 - Yes. 781 00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:16,308 - Did you push her towards that decision, 782 00:31:16,343 --> 00:31:19,546 or did she make it all on her own? 783 00:31:19,578 --> 00:31:21,513 - She made it all on her own. 784 00:31:21,548 --> 00:31:24,416 - The news reports are that it had to do 785 00:31:24,451 --> 00:31:29,122 with the whole DM exchange that Scott got in. 786 00:31:29,154 --> 00:31:30,856 - Well, I don't think that was helpful. 787 00:31:30,890 --> 00:31:33,125 - Right. - There's never one reason why, 788 00:31:33,159 --> 00:31:34,894 I think, people split up. 789 00:31:34,927 --> 00:31:36,229 You know, now's the time to heal. 790 00:31:36,261 --> 00:31:38,263 Now's the time for everyone to heal. 791 00:31:38,298 --> 00:31:40,266 - Including yourself. - Well, yeah. 792 00:31:40,299 --> 00:31:42,935 - And you began healing by posting a picture 793 00:31:42,969 --> 00:31:45,137 of Harry Styles on your Instagram. 794 00:31:45,171 --> 00:31:47,574 - You know, I'm so ----ing shady. 795 00:31:47,606 --> 00:31:48,875 [laughter] 796 00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:50,410 I love Harry Styles. You know that. 797 00:31:50,442 --> 00:31:51,911 I mean, I was already posting 798 00:31:51,944 --> 00:31:54,114 Harry many times, if you follow me. 799 00:31:54,146 --> 00:31:55,382 - I hear he's a fan of the show. 800 00:31:55,414 --> 00:31:57,217 Both: He is. - He loves the show. 801 00:31:57,250 --> 00:32:01,488 - He actually asked some of us for a birthday video. 802 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,557 - Hearing that you have been self-quarantined 803 00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:06,588 and binge-watching 804 00:32:06,589 --> 00:32:07,460 "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" 805 00:32:07,493 --> 00:32:10,629 is just about the best news I've gotten all month. 806 00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:11,463 [laughs] 807 00:32:11,498 --> 00:32:14,334 - Ah! He loves the show. - Wow. 808 00:32:14,366 --> 00:32:18,505 What was Amelia's reaction to seeing you kind of 809 00:32:18,538 --> 00:32:21,374 bashing the relationship or him on the show? 810 00:32:21,407 --> 00:32:23,410 - Well, I let them know that. You know, I mean, I was-- 811 00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:25,778 - You did. - Of course. I warned 812 00:32:25,779 --> 00:32:27,212 everybody--I mean, listen, people are still human, 813 00:32:27,247 --> 00:32:29,315 and I think it still hurts people's feelings 814 00:32:29,348 --> 00:32:32,551 when you say something that isn't necessarily... 815 00:32:32,585 --> 00:32:34,319 - Flattering. - You know, flattering. So. 816 00:32:34,354 --> 00:32:36,588 - Do you think your doing that played into their relationship 817 00:32:36,623 --> 00:32:38,157 at all in a negative way? - No. 818 00:32:38,191 --> 00:32:41,125 No. I don't think so. I don't. 819 00:32:41,126 --> 00:32:43,997 - How did you ladies feel about the breakup? 820 00:32:44,970 --> 00:32:45,865 - Good. - [chuckles] 821 00:32:45,898 --> 00:32:47,166 - Relieved. - Yeah. 822 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,102 - No, I mean, I want everyone to be happy. 823 00:32:50,103 --> 00:32:51,203 But you know how I felt from the beginning. 824 00:32:51,237 --> 00:32:52,204 - You want your kids to be happy. 825 00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:53,373 - Right. - There was too much 826 00:32:53,405 --> 00:32:54,907 of an age gap. - Crystal, you and Rob 827 00:32:54,941 --> 00:32:56,209 have a 20-year age gap. 828 00:32:56,241 --> 00:32:57,576 Did your parents approve? 829 00:32:57,609 --> 00:32:59,378 - Well, my parents were 23 years apart. 830 00:32:59,412 --> 00:33:00,613 - Oh, great! 831 00:33:00,646 --> 00:33:03,282 - Yeah, so it was no issue on their part. 832 00:33:03,316 --> 00:33:04,917 - Kendall from Lansing, Michigan said, 833 00:33:04,951 --> 00:33:07,528 "Rinna, I get why you didn't like the idea 834 00:33:07,529 --> 00:33:08,355 "of Amelia dating Scott. 835 00:33:08,387 --> 00:33:10,222 "But when you actually met the guy, 836 00:33:10,256 --> 00:33:13,192 is that when you started to really hate the idea?" 837 00:33:13,226 --> 00:33:16,618 - No. Actually, he was very nice. 838 00:33:16,619 --> 00:33:17,896 When we met him, he was very nice. 839 00:33:17,931 --> 00:33:20,432 - How many times did you all hang out? 840 00:33:20,467 --> 00:33:24,699 - I would say three times. 841 00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:26,138 - You would say three times. - Yeah. 842 00:33:26,172 --> 00:33:27,440 Well, I mean, it was three times, 843 00:33:27,473 --> 00:33:29,308 but I'm saying yeah, three times. 844 00:33:29,342 --> 00:33:31,644 - Sean from Oakland said, 845 00:33:31,678 --> 00:33:34,798 "Kyle, you're close friends with Kris Jenner. 846 00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,517 "Did you get in trouble with any of the Kardashians 847 00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:39,318 "when you shared your negative opinions 848 00:33:39,352 --> 00:33:41,387 about Scott dating Amelia?" 849 00:33:41,421 --> 00:33:43,323 - They never said anything about it. 850 00:33:43,355 --> 00:33:45,518 I did feel about it right after, 851 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:48,534 because, you know, I do know all of them. 852 00:33:48,535 --> 00:33:51,969 But, I mean, Amelia's 20, and I'm a mom of daughters. 853 00:33:51,970 --> 00:33:54,366 So, I wouldn't approve if I were in Lisa's shoes, 854 00:33:54,401 --> 00:33:56,236 but I knew that she had no control over that. So. 855 00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:57,403 - Yeah. - All right. 856 00:33:57,436 --> 00:34:01,106 It must have been hard not seeing Lois for all of COVID. 857 00:34:01,141 --> 00:34:02,307 Have you seen her yet? - I have. 858 00:34:02,342 --> 00:34:05,711 Amelia and I went up and celebrated her 93rd birthday... 859 00:34:05,744 --> 00:34:07,212 - Wow. - In June. 860 00:34:07,247 --> 00:34:10,215 [electronic music playing] 861 00:34:10,250 --> 00:34:14,688 ♪ ♪ 862 00:34:14,721 --> 00:34:16,956 - That's a blessing. 863 00:34:17,570 --> 00:34:18,692 - Natalie from Akron, Ohio said, 864 00:34:18,724 --> 00:34:20,693 "Rinna, why do you think Drake follows you on Instagram...?" 865 00:34:20,726 --> 00:34:22,195 - (BLEEP), I have no idea. 866 00:34:22,228 --> 00:34:23,429 - "But not the rest of the women?" 867 00:34:23,463 --> 00:34:25,649 - I really have no clue. 868 00:34:25,650 --> 00:34:26,432 I didn't know Drake followed me. 869 00:34:26,465 --> 00:34:28,300 His name is, like, Champagne Pappy or something. 870 00:34:28,335 --> 00:34:30,269 - That's Champagne Papi. I follow Champagne Papi. 871 00:34:30,302 --> 00:34:32,438 - How would you know who the (BLEEP) Champagne Pappy is? 872 00:34:32,472 --> 00:34:34,139 - "Papi. Papi." - Papi. 873 00:34:34,173 --> 00:34:35,342 - Hilarious. 874 00:34:35,375 --> 00:34:36,742 - Oscar from Delaware wants to know, 875 00:34:36,775 --> 00:34:39,451 "What other celebrities are you cozy with 876 00:34:39,452 --> 00:34:42,819 on social media, Rinna?" - Oh. 877 00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:45,848 You know who really thrilled me recently is Florence Pugh. 878 00:34:45,849 --> 00:34:46,452 Is that how you say her last name? 879 00:34:46,485 --> 00:34:47,619 - Yeah. - Yeah. 880 00:34:47,653 --> 00:34:48,755 - The movie star? - Yeah. 881 00:34:48,788 --> 00:34:50,422 - I think that's what's so great about Instagram, 882 00:34:50,456 --> 00:34:51,590 is you get to talk to people 883 00:34:51,623 --> 00:34:53,929 that you would never get to talk to. 884 00:34:53,126 --> 00:34:54,494 - Right. - These people DM me, 885 00:34:54,527 --> 00:34:57,130 and I'm like, "Wait, what?" It's exciting. 886 00:34:57,163 --> 00:34:59,532 - Lily from St. Petersburg, Florida said, 887 00:34:59,565 --> 00:35:02,469 "Kyle, you posted a thirst trap, hoping to get 888 00:35:02,501 --> 00:35:05,371 that Champagne Papi follow. Did it work?" 889 00:35:06,672 --> 00:35:09,675 - No. He still doesn't follow me. 890 00:35:09,708 --> 00:35:13,278 - People really had positive reactions to Harry Hamlin... 891 00:35:13,313 --> 00:35:14,646 - I know - This season. 892 00:35:14,681 --> 00:35:15,949 Here are some comments. 893 00:35:16,489 --> 00:35:19,753 "Harry can plant his vegetables in my garden all night long." 894 00:35:19,786 --> 00:35:21,320 - Cute. - "Harry Hamlin cooks, 895 00:35:21,353 --> 00:35:23,757 "he entertains, he listens. Lisa, what else do you 896 00:35:23,789 --> 00:35:27,159 bring to the marriage besides your damn good BJs?" 897 00:35:27,193 --> 00:35:29,161 - Oh, damn. - [laughs] 898 00:35:29,195 --> 00:35:30,630 - You know, Harry says this one thing-- 899 00:35:30,663 --> 00:35:32,297 And it'll make everybody laugh--but he says 900 00:35:32,331 --> 00:35:34,800 that I am the smartest person he's ever met. 901 00:35:34,833 --> 00:35:36,335 - Aww, that's sweet. 902 00:35:36,369 --> 00:35:37,503 - And I always think that's so amazing... 903 00:35:37,536 --> 00:35:39,271 - That's really sweet. 904 00:35:39,304 --> 00:35:41,739 - 'Cause wouldn't necessarily think that about me. 905 00:35:41,106 --> 00:35:43,208 So, having Harry Hamlin say that--I always love that. 906 00:35:43,242 --> 00:35:45,244 - Well, and he knows you better than anybody. So. 907 00:35:45,277 --> 00:35:46,413 - We love Harry. 908 00:35:46,445 --> 00:35:48,280 - Garcelle, Abigail from Tulsa said, 909 00:35:48,313 --> 00:35:51,251 "It was so sweet of Harry to make you extra sauce." 910 00:35:51,284 --> 00:35:53,686 Would you rather be friends with Harry than Lisa?" 911 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,121 - Oh, my God. 912 00:35:55,155 --> 00:35:57,289 - I've loved Harry for a very long time. 913 00:35:57,322 --> 00:35:59,125 [laughter] 914 00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:00,827 - So, there's your answer. - Harry! 915 00:36:00,860 --> 00:36:03,362 - I have something for you. - You have something for me? 916 00:36:03,396 --> 00:36:05,555 - It's a bunny. No, kidding. - Is it a bunny? 917 00:36:05,556 --> 00:36:07,670 [gasps] You brought me sauce? Are you kidding me? 918 00:36:07,099 --> 00:36:08,835 - This is Harry Hamlin's sauce that he made 919 00:36:08,867 --> 00:36:12,472 before he went to Canada. It's tomatoes from his garden. 920 00:36:12,505 --> 00:36:13,806 - Wow! 921 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,775 - Make sure when you eat it you send a text the next day. 922 00:36:16,809 --> 00:36:19,445 [laughter] - I was about to say. 923 00:36:19,478 --> 00:36:21,847 You gotta text him right this second. 924 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,117 I'd do it right now. Stop what you're doing. 925 00:36:25,150 --> 00:36:27,186 - That is funny. 926 00:36:27,219 --> 00:36:29,505 All right, thank you, Harry, for the sauce. 927 00:36:29,506 --> 00:36:31,523 And we are gonna take a break. We'll be right back. 928 00:36:31,557 --> 00:36:33,592 Wow, I'm so excited about that. 929 00:36:33,626 --> 00:36:36,396 I gotta figure out how I'm gonna get that home. 930 00:36:37,797 --> 00:36:39,298 Coming up... 931 00:36:39,331 --> 00:36:40,766 - It's really hard for Kathy 932 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,269 to talk about anything to do with our mom. 933 00:36:53,612 --> 00:36:54,146 - We are back with more 934 00:36:55,148 --> 00:36:57,650 of the "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" Reunion. 935 00:36:57,684 --> 00:37:00,552 Well, for years, Kyle and Kathy's relationship 936 00:37:00,586 --> 00:37:04,556 was in need of a revival. But now that they're back, 937 00:37:04,590 --> 00:37:07,860 can this sister act keep from getting canceled again? 938 00:37:07,893 --> 00:37:09,262 Let's watch. 939 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:13,733 - Doogie knows her stuff. - [laughs] 940 00:37:13,766 --> 00:37:16,369 I have no idea why my sisters call me Doogie. 941 00:37:16,402 --> 00:37:18,304 Now that I think about it, it's a little suspicious. 942 00:37:18,338 --> 00:37:19,572 [laughs] 943 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,309 - A Doogie. Little child. 944 00:37:23,342 --> 00:37:25,210 It's a love name. 945 00:37:25,244 --> 00:37:27,547 Like a little Tootsie Roll. [giggles] 946 00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:31,518 I don't want onions in lasagne. 947 00:37:31,550 --> 00:37:34,320 - I'm famous for my lasagne, okay? 948 00:37:34,353 --> 00:37:35,822 - How come I've never had it? 949 00:37:35,855 --> 00:37:39,893 - Because you weren't talking to me for too many years. 950 00:37:39,925 --> 00:37:42,394 Joking like this with Kathy, it really does make me think 951 00:37:42,429 --> 00:37:44,297 about all the times we missed together. 952 00:37:44,329 --> 00:37:47,300 - How is your relationship with Kathy right now? 953 00:37:47,333 --> 00:37:48,902 - Um, not great. 954 00:37:48,934 --> 00:37:50,469 - Are you speaking? 955 00:37:50,503 --> 00:37:52,338 - Not right now. 956 00:37:52,371 --> 00:37:54,273 - Wow. - Yeah. 957 00:37:54,306 --> 00:37:57,844 - We've been under scrutiny for so many years, 958 00:37:57,876 --> 00:38:02,514 and what happens is it's only drawing attention. 959 00:38:02,548 --> 00:38:07,686 - My sister and I had a lot of setbacks in our relationship. 960 00:38:07,721 --> 00:38:09,389 And then I did "American Woman," 961 00:38:09,422 --> 00:38:10,923 and I think Kathy thought 962 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,561 that I was going to disrespect our mother or my sisters. 963 00:38:14,594 --> 00:38:16,762 I did a deal with Warner Brothers 964 00:38:16,795 --> 00:38:19,766 for a scripted TV show about my life growing up. 965 00:38:19,798 --> 00:38:22,501 - How has your family reacted? Did they say well done? 966 00:38:22,534 --> 00:38:24,503 - Uh, not yet. 967 00:38:24,536 --> 00:38:27,539 Anytime there was a conversation to bring 968 00:38:27,574 --> 00:38:31,543 the family together again, it just never went well. 969 00:38:31,577 --> 00:38:33,746 My family celebrates Christmas. - Right. 970 00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:34,947 - But I'm not always invited now. 971 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,951 It's not like it was before. We did everything together. 972 00:38:38,510 --> 00:38:39,719 Talked every single day, ten times a day. 973 00:38:39,753 --> 00:38:41,387 It's not like that. 974 00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:43,559 It was a very hard time. 975 00:38:43,623 --> 00:38:46,693 I feel like it caused so much pain 976 00:38:46,726 --> 00:38:48,494 and heartache in the family, 977 00:38:48,527 --> 00:38:52,331 and none of us ever want to feel that pain again. 978 00:38:52,364 --> 00:38:53,833 These remind me of when we were little. 979 00:38:53,867 --> 00:38:56,702 - Remember Mom would make that--the tomato soup, 980 00:38:56,735 --> 00:38:57,971 out of the can? 981 00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:59,873 - She really was not a good cook. 982 00:38:59,905 --> 00:39:01,875 - This is what she doesn't like. 983 00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:03,610 - What, the talking about that? 984 00:39:08,347 --> 00:39:10,159 - Being together. 985 00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:16,755 [crying softly] 986 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,693 - Mom was so funny with her cooking. 987 00:39:26,766 --> 00:39:28,400 You know? 988 00:39:35,775 --> 00:39:38,439 - Aw. - Such a waste. 989 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,945 - What a waste. 990 00:39:40,460 --> 00:39:42,548 Both: Aw. - [smooches] 991 00:39:42,581 --> 00:39:45,851 Snuggle me, Doogie. [laughter] 992 00:39:47,721 --> 00:39:49,489 - That's amazing. 993 00:39:50,789 --> 00:39:51,757 - Aww. 994 00:39:51,791 --> 00:39:55,362 - It's nice that there's a happy ending here. 995 00:39:55,394 --> 00:39:56,829 Right? both: Yep. 996 00:39:56,862 --> 00:39:58,764 - Kathy, what's your reaction when you see 997 00:39:58,797 --> 00:40:00,800 some of that old footage of Kyle 998 00:40:00,833 --> 00:40:02,936 talking about being estranged from you? 999 00:40:02,969 --> 00:40:05,438 - It's-it's very sad, because it's--first time 1000 00:40:05,472 --> 00:40:09,608 I ever saw it was when I saw that episode. 1001 00:40:09,641 --> 00:40:12,811 - I have to assume you were not happy 1002 00:40:12,846 --> 00:40:15,849 when the first season aired. - No. 1003 00:40:15,882 --> 00:40:17,684 - It upset you a lot to see that limousine. 1004 00:40:17,717 --> 00:40:18,985 You've said that. 1005 00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:20,552 - After everything that I have done for you, 1006 00:40:20,586 --> 00:40:21,755 everything I've done 1007 00:40:21,788 --> 00:40:23,559 for you--I'm always there for you-- 1008 00:40:23,889 --> 00:40:24,456 - Everything you've done for me? 1009 00:40:24,490 --> 00:40:27,599 - Yeah. - You stole my goddamn house! 1010 00:40:27,929 --> 00:40:29,396 - You better ----ing take that back right now. 1011 00:40:29,429 --> 00:40:30,896 You better ----ing... 1012 00:40:30,929 --> 00:40:31,998 - Stop it. Stop. 1013 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,599 - Right now. - Stop it. Stop it. 1014 00:40:33,632 --> 00:40:35,969 - You are a liar and, second, an alcoholic. 1015 00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:38,905 - Then you had Kim's issues... - Don't. 1016 00:40:38,938 --> 00:40:42,574 - With her sobriety playing out on the show. 1017 00:40:42,608 --> 00:40:44,476 - Right. - And I again have to assume 1018 00:40:44,510 --> 00:40:47,847 that that was very painful for you, as it was for Kyle. 1019 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,684 - I kept thinking about my mom. Like, what would my mom do? 1020 00:40:51,717 --> 00:40:53,452 - Wow. - And as the oldest sister, 1021 00:40:53,485 --> 00:40:55,210 I feel like, 1022 00:40:55,550 --> 00:40:56,889 Holy... 1023 00:40:56,922 --> 00:40:58,391 - A responsibility. 1024 00:40:58,425 --> 00:40:59,659 - Right. - Yeah. 1025 00:40:59,693 --> 00:41:01,628 And I understand Erika a little bit, 1026 00:41:01,661 --> 00:41:06,658 because I think there's a part of me that was very much, like, 1027 00:41:06,659 --> 00:41:08,601 holding things in like that. Don't you think? 1028 00:41:08,635 --> 00:41:10,698 - Mm-hmm. Oh, you definitely did. 1029 00:41:10,699 --> 00:41:12,972 - And when you can stand back and look at yourself 1030 00:41:13,730 --> 00:41:16,108 by having this on the show like that, 1031 00:41:16,141 --> 00:41:19,112 if it can help other people to, like, pick up the phone 1032 00:41:19,144 --> 00:41:22,981 or just be more vulnerable and not waste time 1033 00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:26,719 and a relationship--because we did. 1034 00:41:26,753 --> 00:41:28,487 We wasted a lot of time. 1035 00:41:28,521 --> 00:41:30,856 - Thank God you're still here to change that. 1036 00:41:30,889 --> 00:41:31,791 - Right. Absolutely. 1037 00:41:31,824 --> 00:41:34,927 - How many episodes of "American Woman" 1038 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,463 did you wind up watching? Or did you? 1039 00:41:37,496 --> 00:41:39,666 - You know, I watched a trailer. 1040 00:41:39,699 --> 00:41:41,668 I don't watch TV much. 1041 00:41:41,701 --> 00:41:44,871 - Given what an issue it was, do you think maybe 1042 00:41:44,903 --> 00:41:46,639 if you had watched it you would have-- 1043 00:41:46,672 --> 00:41:48,907 That maybe would have put that to bed a little bit? 1044 00:41:48,942 --> 00:41:53,579 - No, because I don't even talk to my mother's friends. 1045 00:41:53,612 --> 00:41:54,780 - Interesting. 1046 00:41:54,813 --> 00:41:56,983 - There's a tape of her talking to us. 1047 00:41:57,170 --> 00:42:01,588 I just--the fact that she's not here anymore, 1048 00:42:01,621 --> 00:42:03,188 [voice breaking] it's just very hard for me. 1049 00:42:06,192 --> 00:42:08,610 [crying] 1050 00:42:18,637 --> 00:42:20,730 - [quietly] It's okay. 1051 00:42:20,773 --> 00:42:26,111 I do feel like it's really hard for Kathy to 1052 00:42:26,112 --> 00:42:30,483 talk about any of this-- Anything to do with our mom. 1053 00:42:32,217 --> 00:42:34,868 It's okay. It's okay. 1054 00:42:34,869 --> 00:42:35,822 [soft music] 1055 00:42:35,855 --> 00:42:38,909 It's okay. It's okay, it's okay. 1056 00:42:39,693 --> 00:42:40,960 It's okay. 1057 00:42:44,963 --> 00:42:46,932 It's okay. It's okay. - It's too hard for her. 1058 00:42:46,965 --> 00:42:48,134 It's too hard. 1059 00:42:49,235 --> 00:42:51,137 - [sobbing] 1060 00:42:51,170 --> 00:42:53,172 - It's okay. 1061 00:43:09,789 --> 00:43:12,625 - Next week, the reunion continues. 1062 00:43:12,659 --> 00:43:15,127 How did you land a job at an escort agency? 1063 00:43:15,128 --> 00:43:17,230 - It was the summer between high school and college. 1064 00:43:17,262 --> 00:43:19,231 - Prime time to work at an escort agency. 1065 00:43:19,264 --> 00:43:22,135 - Right. Well, I was 18. So. - [laughs] 1066 00:43:22,168 --> 00:43:25,709 - Who would trust Kathy to cut your hair? 1067 00:43:25,710 --> 00:43:26,718 - Oh, hell no! 1068 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,875 - What about to do dental work? - Not dental. 1069 00:43:28,907 --> 00:43:30,175 - That's where you draw the line. 1070 00:43:30,210 --> 00:43:31,811 [laughter] 1071 00:43:31,844 --> 00:43:32,945 - Do you stand by your assertion 1072 00:43:32,978 --> 00:43:36,583 that the leather pants--? - They weren't my favorite. 1073 00:43:36,615 --> 00:43:39,219 - What did Erika know? 1074 00:43:39,251 --> 00:43:44,824 Did you have any sense this alleged theft was happening? 1075 00:43:44,858 --> 00:43:46,659 When the women ask you questions, 1076 00:43:46,693 --> 00:43:48,260 you lash out at them. - Absolutely. 1077 00:43:48,293 --> 00:43:50,764 I'm lashing out at everyone, Andy. 1078 00:43:50,797 --> 00:43:53,266 - You come off as you're the victim. 1079 00:43:53,298 --> 00:43:55,835 - You looked like you were the victim. 1080 00:43:55,869 --> 00:43:57,269 - Are you ----ing kidding me? 1081 00:43:57,302 --> 00:44:00,206 - You found him after he was unconscious for 12 hours? 1082 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,429 - Yes. - Is there a police report? 1083 00:44:02,430 --> 00:44:03,842 - They can't find one. 1084 00:44:03,876 --> 00:44:05,612 - Where's your anger towards him? 1085 00:44:05,644 --> 00:44:07,468 - What do you want me to do? 1086 00:44:07,469 --> 00:44:08,715 - You just bit Crystal's head off and said-- 1087 00:44:08,748 --> 00:44:10,650 - She just told me I wasn't angry enough. 1088 00:44:10,684 --> 00:44:12,952 Am I angry now enough for you? 1089 00:44:13,530 --> 00:44:14,286 You don't know what I have done... 1090 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,889 - That's-- - Or what I will do. 1091 00:44:15,922 --> 00:44:18,578 - That's true. - What will you do? 1092 00:44:18,579 --> 00:44:19,592 - You'll just have to wait and see, won't you? 1093 00:44:19,626 --> 00:44:20,960 [dramatic music]