- Tonight the four-part Beverly Hills reunion begins.
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[doorbell rings]
- How are you? - Hi!
- You look wonderful.
- Get on in here.
- Everyone's like,
"Oh, my God, is she gonna go to the reunion?"
I'm like, "[bleep] yeah, [bleep]."
- Yeah, I'm going. - "She's shown up
for everything else. Why wouldn't she?"
- [bleep] quitter.
Last night, I had a dream that we were at the reunion.
- Don't you say that to me. Don't--
- I can say anything I want to say.
- You go-- - So can I!
- So can all of us.
- There's gonna be some shots taken and some shots fired.
The moment you call me a liar, it's game [bleep] on.
- You don't know that! - Let me finish, Garcelle!
- Why didn't you [bleep] come to say,
"Rinna, what are you doing?"
- And guess what. There's gonna be some winners,
and there's gonna be some losers.
- Well, that's life, baby.
- Where's your anger towards him?
- Am I angry now enough for you?
Remember when you called me and you said,
"These girls have flipped on you"?
- Well, that'll come up at the reunion. Get ready.
- Tonight the four-part Beverly Hills reunion begins.
Do you stand by your assertion that the leather pants--
- They weren't my favorite. - I am longwinded.
I just want to say this, Andy,
and this is really important, am I boring you?
- Oh!
- We are joined by the one and only Kathy Hilton.
- I have a few notes in case,
'cause I wanted to address a few things.
- Bring it, Kathy! Bring it, bitch.
- All these things I don't feel great about.
I did them. It happened.
Each and every one of them haunts me.
- You really experienced threats and hate speech.
- It's hundreds a day. - Wow.
- [sobbing]
- First I say too much, and then I don't say enough.
- What you just threw down shows exactly who you are.
- You and your husband and you and your husband
were laughing at my [bleep] up life.
- I can't control what comes out of their mouth.
- And you know what? I can't control what Tom Girardi did.
- The way that you spoke to me is not okay.
- You were being a bitchy [bleep] [bleep].
- We're gonna put you on a skewer, and I'm gonna
fire up the barbecue.
Why didn't you leave Tom sooner?
- Where was I going?
- I know what you make on this show.
- Hold on.
- Did you feel you were held captive?
He's having multiple affairs.
Yet as we know, he put $20 million...
- No.
- And more into your account. Who believes
Erika did not know anything about what Tom was doing?
- Can someone please back me the [bleep] up
on what I'm saying?
- You were manipulating the narrative by saying
that the cognitive decline started three years ago.
- That's not true. Again here you are
looking at me rolling your eyes.
- It lands differently when there are air crash victims.
Have you asked him if he did it?
- I asked him why am I--why...
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- I'm Ready. - You're ready?
- Right this way.
- What time does my sister get here?
- Thanks, Radu.
- How cushy and comfortable for her.
- If I don't put fake lashes on, then I'm not in a reunion.
- In 11 years of doing it,
this one seems like the stakes are higher.
- Well, for some people more than others, obviously.
- How's it gonna go with Erika?
- Keep seeing, like, stories online
that she's not talking to me and she's not happy.
- Well, is she talking to you?
- No.
- You nervous about seeing her? - Yeah. She said she hated me.
- I know who's gonna come for me. I have an idea.
- Who's coming for you? - Dorit, Rinna. I'll handle it.
- You always do.
- Come on, baby. Let's go. You're in the right room now.
- Five minutes to air, everyone.
Let's make sure everybody's in place.
- Come on in. - Where are we sitting?
- Oh, just seat yourself.
- Ready came four on Andy. - Steven.
I need Steven to do hand makeup.
- How do you make the phone turn off?
- We need a millennial.
- All right, guys, let's go. - Clear the set.
- Three. Two.
- Okay, you're stressing me out.
- One. - Hey, everybody.
Welcome to the "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills"
season 11 reunion. I'm Andy Cohen
joined by the stunning women of Beverly Hills.
Hi, ladies. [together] Hi, Andy.
- Crystal, welcome to your first reunion.
- Thanks.
- How you feeling? - I feel good.
- I half--half expected you
to show up in the leather pants.
- They belong in the clubhouse. - They do!
I know, they do, yes. Hi, Sutton.
- Hi, Andy. - How are you?
- I'm good. - And how's your ankle?
- It's doing good. I mean, we're, like--
- I see you're in high heels. Those are some...
- Y'all, I'm very-- - [inaudible] shoes.
- I'm very excited, because this is the highest heel
that I've worn in probably a year.
- Really pretty.
- Maybe we could put your boot in the clubhouse too.
- Oh, gosh, no. - That's all right.
- Like, "I'm good." - Hi, Dorit.
- Hi, Andy. - Great to see you.
- Good to see you as well. - Are you wearing a Dorit...
- Design. - Wedding gown?
- This is part of, like, the ready-to-wear,
but it could also be,
you know, in the wedding dress collection.
It's got thousands of embellished white glass pearls.
- Looks great. - I love it.
- Thank you. - Gorgeous.
- Hi, Garcelle. - Hi, Andy.
- How you feeling? - I'm good.
- I noticed you sipping some tequila just a few minutes ago.
- Andy! Get my picture with my tequila.
- Did that--did that... - Yeah, it's good.
- Equalize you?
- I mean, this is my first in person.
Last time was, you know, on Zoom. And so...
- Oh, that's true. - Yeah, let's go.
- All right. Hey, Rinna.
- Hi.
- Who is she tonight?
- We haven't really named her. - Okay.
- Why don't you guys come with a name?
- Priscilla. - Priscilla! I like Priscilla!
- I like Priscilla. - Yeah, I like that too.
- What do you think about Priscilla?
All right.
We agree on something.
- Hey!
- There we go. Good way to start the day.
- Love it. - Hey, Kyle.
- Hey, Andy.
- Welcome to your 11th reunion.
- Can you believe that? - Wow.
- You have a different sister
that's gonna be joining us tonight.
- Yes, I do.
- Having sat here with you so many years
when Kim was joining,
when you two weren't in the best place,
tonight should be a cakewalk with Kathy, right?
- Absolutely. - Yes. And I should mention,
we are in a simulation of Kathy Hilton's backyard.
- That is incredible. - What's your prediction?
Will Kathy recognize where we are?
- I don't know. Maybe.
- She's gonna say, "Where are we?"
- "What is this?" - Yeah.
- It's "inspired by."
- Right. Right.
- Yes. - Hey, Erika. What's new?
- A lot. - Yes.
- A lot is new. - A lot is new.
How are you feeling about being here tonight?
- I'm fine. - Yeah?
- Yeah. - How'd you sleep?
- Very well. - Really?
- Yeah. Was I supposed to sleep any other way?
- I don't know. I don't know if today was something
that you were looking forward to or dreading.
- Actually--no, actually I am. - Why?
- I'm looking forward
to closing this chapter and moving on.
- Mm-hmm. - So, yeah.
- There's obviously so much going on with you this season,
and it's a highly unusual situation,
because things are still unfolding as we speak,
and even between the time that we tape this and airing
new things could come out.
I mean, how are you feeling about
finally kind of addressing this stuff with the viewers?
- I'm happy to do so. - You are.
- I'm happy to say everything that I can say.
Please understand there are some things
that I cannot answer, but I will do my best
to give every part of the story that I can.
- Okay.
- This is the toughest part of my life.
- I can imagine.
- And I asked for patience with the ladies and got some,
and some I didn't. I asked for an understanding
that these things are complicated,
that I was finding them out in real time myself,
and I don't have all the answers
and still do not have all the answers to this day.
- What do you think at this moment
is the biggest misconception about you?
- You know, there's a lot of talk about me being cold
and a lot of talk about me not having empathy and sympathy.
The truth is, I do, but I'm in an almost impossible situation,
and anyone that has been wronged,
I want them to be made whole.
- You're talking about the victim of Tom's--
- Yeah, I'm talking about the alleged victims
of all of Tom's alleged misdoings.
And it's important that people hear that from me.
- Do you understand how people watching could think
that you don't have sympathy? - Yes.
- When you're reading about victims,
that's very hard to digest.
- How do you think I feel? Look at my [bleep] life.
- [bleep].
- But they're also looking at it through their own eyes,
and they don't know what I know,
and they did not live what I have lived through.
- What was it like for you watching the show back?
- It was really, really hard.
- What were your feelings towards the other women
as you watched their reaction to it playing out?
- Disappointment. Anger.
Sadness. And then some hope and some love and some support.
- I know that, Sutton,
you spoke to an attorney at some point during filming.
- I want to be clear, though. I didn't talk to my attorney.
I talked to a friend who is an attorney.
- Okay.
- I didn't call my attorney. That's all.
- Did any of the other women speak to attorneys?
You did, Crystal.
- I did. - Yeah.
- Just for the first time signed legal documents
to be on TV.
So for me it was all very overwhelming.
But I consult my lawyers a lot in general.
- Anyone else? - I asked Faye's husband,
who is an attorney, just to break down
the "LA Times" article, because it was so long.
- I'm sure your lawyers have had a lot to say
as the episodes have aired.
Did they ever advise you to quit the show?
- They did. And then I said no. - Why?
- Because I have nothing to hide.
And they said, "Well, you know that this [bleep]
can get flipped around you."
- Meaning everything you say can be used against you.
- Everything can be parsed, twisted, turned, and yes,
possibly used against you. Whether it is true or not,
it almost doesn't even matter at this point.
- Did you ever think of quitting the show?
- Yes. But I'm not a quitter,
and I wanted to honor my commitment.
And I wasn't gonna run away from what's coming at me.
- How much did the fact that you don't have
your former husband's income to rely on play into this?
This is now your main job.
- Yeah. Unfortunately, it is.
You know, that is more now of a consideration.
Back then, while we were shooting the show,
I was literally trying to survive.
- Okay. - So now that we're here, yes,
that has come more into consideration.
- You have not been charged with a crime.
- No.
- Yet if you look on social media--
- You would think I had.
- And you would see a lot of people saying,
"She needs to be fired from the show."
What's your reaction to that?
- No. - No what? No why?
- Why would I--why should I be fired?
Why are you presuming that I've done something?
Why aren't we letting the legal process play out?
You've heard one side
and a lot of bull[bleep] on that side.
Give me a chance to defend myself. Watch me.
I'm ready for the challenge. Watch me do it.
- All right, we're gonna be right back after this.
Coming up...
how was she as a tenant, Kyle?
- She did almost burn my house down.
- That is not my fault.
- Sutton. - We're gonna go to court.
- Who was living there?
- Welcome back to the
"Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.
Sutton, you were kind of front and center
with a lot of the drama this season.
The big question is whether you brought your face roller today
to keep you calm.
- It is in my trailer. Roll it out.
- It's in your trailer? You may need it out here.
- I know.
- Well, some call her over-the-top.
Others call her overly sensitive.
But despite outside opinions, Sutton is just trying
to live her best life one Sutty Buddy Butthole at a time.
- That sounds so... - Let's watch. I know.
- Grindr-ish. - I know.
Sorry. I didn't like it up.
- I didn't make it up either. - You're going kind of slow.
- Okay, wait, I'll give her a little kick.
- Yeah! Oh, my God!
Sutton is fun. She's a little odd.
She's a little kooky. But I like that.
- I don't know what you're doing over there.
- Did I say it like that? - Mr. Poppins.
- When I saw that dadgum doo-doo nail
pointing at my face... - [laughs]
- This helps me,
because I feel so uncomfortable.
- Sutton should win an Oscar for being a drama queen.
- I pray to Jesus every day. You think he'd throw me a bone.
- What's up? - I just need a vodka.
- Oh, my God, I think Sutton is more hormonal than my kids.
And they're teenagers.
- I'm telling you right now as your friend
you're being overly sensitive. Look at me.
- You are sensitive... - [bleep] pay attention to me.
- I--okay. All right. - No. Pay attention.
It is like taking care of a toddler.
You gotta help her up.
You have to put her in the seat.
- Oh! We did that very well and elegantly.
- She gets upset.
She doesn't listen. She does on and on.
- I was ridiculous, crazy, paranoid, and irrational,
and too sensitive. I've got it.
- Yeah. - [inaudible].
- Why are you defensive about that?
- Defensive. - Take that in.
- Add the defensive. - Defensive.
- Oh, for the love of God. I mean--
- It's true.
- I want to put a pacifier in her mouth sometimes.
- Bought a house, and it's crazy,
and I think it really, like, released something in me.
After my divorce, I personally was a shell of a person,
and ended up at the finish line with a new house
and a new Bentley and great friends
and living my best life.
I'm a strong, impassioned woman...
That makes me want to cry.
Who really doesn't give a [bleep].
- Aww. - I cried a lot.
- You did cry a lot. - And I was hormonal, I think.
- Cody from Cupertino said,
"Sutton, your therapist mom seems tough as nails."
- Whew!
- What was it like being psychoanalyzed growing up?
- She's still very hard on me. When I say something,
she really wants to get to the deeper meaning of it.
Sometimes I just don't say anything, 'cause it's easier.
- What was her reaction
to seeing you on the show this season?
- You know what's interesting, when we did the flashback
to talk about my dad, she said nothing.
I wish you had come to the opening.
There's a lot of Dad in this.
Don't you miss him, like, a little?
- I don't miss him. - What was her reaction
to how you and Crystal were not getting along?
- She sent me a text, and she said, you know,
"With Crystal, you just need to take her for what she is
and not take things so..."
- Personal.
- "Personally." And she said, "Don't do that.
Y'all are just kind of different people,
and don't get so reactive."
- And did you follow that advice?
- Yeah, I think I did.
And it's also very funny, one of my best friends said,
"I think you and Crystal are more alike than you know."
- I've heard that too from friends.
- Really? - Yeah. Yeah.
'Cause I'm also quite reactive too.
- How has your store managed during the pandemic?
- It's been great, actually.
It's growing bigger and bigger--my business.
Really growing.
- Did you just point at me when you said that?
- Yes. It is a business.
- Oh! - It's growing.
It's growing, actually,
excrementally--more than I thought that it would.
- Did you shade her business? - Did you shade her business?
- Did I--what'd I say in an interview?
- Sutton doesn't really have a business.
- Well... - No, but I'm saying.
- She has her store. - She has the shop.
- She has her store... - Okay.
- But you know what I'm saying. - Okay.
- It's not like--like, I don't understand that.
Oh. Well, you had a store,
so I didn't consider a business at the time.
- Uh-huh. - But it is.
- It is. - Sutton, it was kind of funny.
I mean, how would Amelia and Porter vibe on a playdate?
You said, "I don't think so."
Yeah, I don't know about that playdate.
I don't know about that. [laughs]
- What was your reaction to that?
- It didn't feel great,
because we're, like, momma bears with our kids.
- Yeah.
- You know, so I, of course, didn't love it. No.
- They just grew up in a different way.
Porter didn't grow up with Hollywood parents,
so it's a very different lifestyle.
I didn't mean it in a bad way.
- Sutton, have you moved into your new house yet?
- I did. We moved in last week.
I'm in.
This is where the [inaudible] should go.
This has been one of the craziest journeys
I think I've ever sone. It feels amazing.
Every morning I wake up, and I'm, like,
this is amazing.
It's so great. I'm so happy.
- So you wound up living
at Kyle's old Bel-Air house for how long?
- Well, for a long time. - Almost a year.
- How was she as a tenant, Kyle?
- I was actually so happy to have her there.
She was a great tenant,
although she did almost burn my house down.
- I did? I did? What did I do?
Did I really? Stop it. I did not.
- No, I swear. - I did? What did I do?
- Well, because they just did, like, a walkthrough,
and they're like,
"The house was almost burnt down with the fireplace there."
- Why? Well, I know, I saw the--the smoky stuff.
- The smoky--wait, no, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
They sent me the picture. Wait, wait.
- Yeah. - Look. Wait, look.
- Oh! - Why it is doing that, though?
- Because you almost burned the house down!
- Oh, [bleep].
- Oh! - It is not my fault.
I just turned the fireplace on.
- And so the house is standing in Bel-Air,
and it's on the market?
- We took it off the market,
'cause we have to do some repairs right now.
[laughter]
- Well, wouldn't that come out of her security deposit?
- I didn't know there was one.
- We didn't ask for one. - She didn't ask for one.
- Because she was supposed to be there only one month.
- You know I'll fix anything. - I know that.
I know. That's why I'm laughing about it.
- It was not--that is not my fault.
We're gonna go to court.
- Who was living there? - Oh, good, someone else...
- Right. - Besides me.
- All right, on that note, we're gonna take a break.
Next...
- You didn't say anything in the moment, and then--
- You don't know that.
- Let me finish, Garcelle!
- So what look were you goinfo
- Hot. Single.
- Speaking of single, have you considered dating?
Are you seeing anybody?
- I'm trying!
- Are you? - Yes!
I'd love--anybody, hello, help. Yes.
- What kind of guy are you looking for?
- Something with a big penis.
- Ooh! - Really?
- Yeah. - Okay.
- Yeah. I would like some hot sex.
- I'm sure you're gonna have
a lot of takers after that comment.
- Well, I'm just saying. - The DMs are--are open.
- For sure.
- Coming in. - Okay.
- Well, they are open.
- Sutton, you and your boyfriend
Michael broke up, unfortunately.
- Yes. - What happened?
- We're on a nice Valentine's weekend,
and he broke up weekend.
- On the weekend? - Oh, wow.
- On Valentine's weekend? - Yes.
- That's not okay. That's not okay.
- So it wasn't that nice of a Valentine's weekend. Wow.
- Well, I guess it wasn't that nice
of a Valentine's weekend, then.
- What reason did he give you?
- That he--he said, "I just can't."
- "I just can't"? - Yeah.
- Wow.
- There's really no comeback to that. I was devastated.
But now I'm not. I'm dating.
- Good. - You are.
- Good. - Yes.
- Who are you dating?
- You know what? I'm--I think I'm dating--
- 'Cause I ain't got no dates. What the [bleep].
- In my life. Dating's fun. I highly recommend it.
- Garcelle, Payton from Dallas wants to know if your son Jade
has come around to the idea of you getting married again,
or does he want to be the main man in your life?
- No, I think that was a moment.
I don't really believe that, 'cause they've met, you know,
like, one or two people that I've dated in the past,
and they didn't seem that protective.
It felt like it was something he was going through.
But I think he'd be okay if it was someone he knew
that I was genuinely happy with.
- Well, this season, Garcelle often felt like
she didn't quite belong.
Did "The Real" host have herself some fake friends?
Or was she not making a "real" effort? Watch.
- I don't know where I sit, honestly, with this group.
I feel like--in a way,
feel like an outsider a little bit.
I think ever since I started hanging with this group,
I felt like there's an inner circle to our group.
I feel like the four of you are together,
and then me and Crystal and Sutton
are on the other side of everything.
- Why? Do you really? - I do. I do.
And I just feel like you guys look out for each other,
but I don't feel like you look out for me.
- Do you like the women at this table?
- Absolutely!
- Okay. - Some more than others.
- Okay.
Garcelle throws little darts, and people are like, "Ow."
- The regular goldfish is Kyle. - Oh, [bleep].
- Why is Kyle a goldfish?
It's ordinary. She's longwinded.
Should you give her a timer?
- Is that another opportunity for you
to throw a little passive-aggressive dig?
Because of course there's a smile.
Do you have a problem with me, Garcelle?
I start to think, jeez, you had a problem with Kyle,
and then what you did in Palm Springs,
which in my opinion--
- [bleep] you with that.
- That's from Crystal, Kathy, and me.
- Yes! - Let me see. Let me see.
- Wow! - Wait.
- Should I do it like this? [together] Yes!
- That is beautiful. - Thank you so much.
- You're very welcome.
- I think that we've all really made an effort
to make Garcelle feel more comfortable in this group.
It's Kyle's birthday.
- Oh, I didn't know that! - Here's the thing,
friendship is a two-way street, and she has to make an effort.
- My whole [bleep] life I've had to try to fit in.
- But you fit in here. - You do fit in.
- It doesn't always feel like that.
I walk in a room all the time,
and I always have to prove myself!
Have you guys ever walked into a room
and felt like you're the only one that's different?
- Yeah.
- Try it your whole life.
Whew.
- Garcelle, you were so vulnerable
when you opened up to the group in Del Mar.
Did you have any follow-up conversations
with anyone after that?
- Rinna and Dorit came up to me and said, "How did it feel?"
And it made them see me in a different way,
and it made me feel like I opened up
differently too to them.
- Did you feel closer to Garcelle
after she opened up that night?
- Absolutely. Absolutely.
- Yeah. I mean, you know, Garcelle was
one of those people that I felt an immediate bond towards.
I think that Garcelle can be passively provocative,
and it doesn't really give someone a chance to respond
or defend themselves.
I liked that she opened up and was vulnerable in Del Mar,
because I really believe that showing that vulnerability
was really real and raw,
and it was like this part of her which I had felt
that she was doing deliberately,
again, passively provocative,
almost to be relevant, to be interesting.
- What? I don't need to do anything to be relevant.
Let me just say that.
- Okay. Well, I felt like you've taken jabs
and swipes at me. And then I confronted you,
and then you made it seem that I was coming after you.
In that moment,
I used a word that I shouldn't have used, and it was wrong.
- Yes, you did. - Yeah, and--
- And I need an apology for that, honestly.
- You're making a lot of jabs at me.
- Have I? - It's like a bully.
- I need an apology for that. I am not a bully.
- Garcelle. - Yes.
- You didn't give me a chance to actually apologize.
- Because it was hurtful. - I completely--
- It was hurtful... - Garcelle, I raised it--
- And also unnecessary.
- I raised it. I raised it. - Okay.
- That was the wrong word. - Okay.
- And I want you to understand that popped in my head,
because an element of a bully is incessive. It's incessant.
I felt like the jabs you were doing at me were incessant.
- You got absolutely hazed for calling her a bully.
- Right.
- Bridget from Arkansas said,
after witnessing Erika verbally attack Teddy, Eileen, Sutton,
and being on the receiving end yourself,
why call Garcelle a bully and not Erika?
King Danielle said Dorit using the word "bully"
is an attempt to paint Garcelle
into the angry Black woman stereotype.
That's a new low.
So, Dorit, what's your response to all this?
- Okay, well, that's very layered, you know,
so let me just break this down.
First of all, that was not at all in an effort
to paint that picture.
And like I just said, an element of the word "bully"
is incessant, and when Erika had had moments
with all of the ones that you mentioned,
they were all isolated incidents.
- Oh, come on.
- This was over a period of months.
Listen, I will own all day long
that I can choose words poorly. I wish I could take it back.
- It's okay.
- And it wasn't the right word, and I'm very sorry for that.
- Thank you.
- But Garcelle says a lot in her confessionals,
but she doesn't say it directly to your face.
- That's not true. - I'd have to agree with Dorit.
- We all do it. - I mean, but you all do it.
- We all do it.
- We all do it. We absolutely all do it.
- We all do it. - Well...
- You seem to do it the most. - Yeah.
- No, I don't think that's true.
- And there's a lot of times--
- You're the most comfortable doing it.
- You don't say much when we're together, or to someone's face,
and then you'll say it in the confessional.
- First I say too much, and then I don't say enough.
Like, I can't win with you.
- It's not direct. - I can't win.
- No, you can. - It is direct. It is direct.
- No, it's not. - I've said to you, Dorit--
- It's very passive. - Dorit, I've said to you--
- And it's with a smile. - Come on.
- You've said--you said you want her to be direct,
but then you accuse of her of throwing darts, so...
- Thank you. - I want her to be direct.
I don't want her to throw darts.
Throwing darts is not being direct, Andy.
- Okay.
- When you have an issue with someone, you look at them,
you tell them you have an issue.
- Okay.
- You don't throw a passive- aggressive jab with a smile.
- Okay. - Oh, please.
And can I just say this? Don't we all want to grow?
If somebody keeps saying to you,
don't you want to go look at it and go--
- Not at this age, honey. I'm set.
- I said you talk too much.
You go for my integrity and call me inauthentic
and call me a bully, which you've...
- Apologized for. - Apologized for..
- Apologized. - So we're gonna
put that aside,
and we're really gonna put it aside.
- Great. - That's nice.
- I'm not one to bring it back up again. All right?
- Really? That's nice. - Rinna, stop.
- That's great. - We'll get to it.
Like, hold on, girl. Hold on.
- Garcelle, I'll do whatever I want.
Don't you tell me to do anything, okay?
Thanks. Don't--
- I can say anything I want to say.
- You go-- - So can I!
- So can all of us!
- We all can! - Okay.
- Don't you tell me to do a thing.
- [scoffs]
- Crystal, do you think that Garcelle has a tendency
to throw jabs and run away?
- I'll just refer to my dinner, like, when she says
you don't say it in front,
and then you made that, like, jab at me.
- What did I say about you?
- That you don't--you didn't know who I was.
- I've never heard of her. Ever.
- How about this?
Before I met Crystal, I didn't know Crystal.
I knew Rob Minkoff.
- I'm glad you brought up the dinner,
but that wasn't even the jab I was talking about.
You guys were all talking about Sutton. You were there.
You didn't say anything in the moment, and then--
- You don't know that. - Let me finish, Garcelle!
- Oh!
- This is the second time you've cut me off!
I'm gonna make a point.
- That's very loud. - Make a point, Dorit.
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- You guys were all talking about Sutton. You were there.
You didn't say anything in the moment, and then--
- You don't know that. - Let me finish, Garcelle!
- Oh!
- This is the second time you've cut me off!
I'm gonna make a point.
- Make a point, Dorit.
- Flash to your confessional, and you said,
"Why are they saying all these things? I'm Team Sutton."
- Yeah. She's finally getting a voice.
- I think her voice is very awkward.
- Why are they saying this in front of me?
They know I'm Team Sutton. Like, come on.
- Why not in that moment, say, "Guys, I don't agree with this.
"And, you guys, I'm friends with Sutton.
I don't appreciate this."
- Why are you talking
about something that you weren't even there?
- I want to move on to Rinna and Garcelle.
But before I do, where do you two stand, Dorit and Garcelle?
- Well, the ball is in your court.
- Okay.
- I would like to move on. I thought we did.
- I would like to move on as well.
Like, I don't dislike her.
- Okay. - At all.
- "I don't dislike her at all." - I mean--okay.
- Great. - I mean, no.
- That's really convincing, Garcelle.
- Sounds great. - You know what I'm saying?
I don't-- - Is that a double negative?
- Yeah, I think that's what it is.
I don't have anything against Dorit, honestly.
- Okay. Okay.
- I really don't.
- So you two are clean right now.
I want to move on to...
- Fish. - Lisa Rinna.
And Garcelle, you struggled with the ups and downs
of your 20-year friendship with Lisa Rinna.
Do you think you've earned back your friendship with Garcelle?
- Well, I certainly did everything that I could.
You know, I think at this point you'd have to ask Garcelle,
'cause I really tried.
I think Garcelle has some expectations from me.
- She threw you a birthday party.
- Yeah.
- And she brought you sauce. - Yeah.
- Did you take those as her playing chess,
or did you take them as, "Wow, she's making an effort"?
- That's a really good question.
If I'm gonna be really honest,
I'm not sure how I took them, honestly.
Those were lovely things to do. I just don't trust.
And when you don't trust--
- Should she stop reaching out, because you don't trust?
You know what I'm saying?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like, should she stop that?
- Yeah. I don't know what to say, honestly.
- 'Cause she's gonna come to a point--
- I've never--
- I mean, let me speak for you for one second.
- You can speak. You can.
- I think she's gonna come to a point where she's like,
"Hey, I've really tried." - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- "She doesn't trust me." - I tried.
- I understand that. - That's enough.
- You know what I'm saying? There's gonna be a point...
- Your birthday was very genuine.
- Oh, I know that. - The text thread
amongst all of us...- I know tha
- I think-- - Was super sweet.
- I think if I could just say, you know,
I just feel like you break the chain with me.
For whatever reason,
you don't want to go a little bit further.
And I--and I have to just take that in now. I really do.
- Okay. I'm sorry.
- Do you--do you want to punish her
for the way she treated you?
- No, I'm done with that. - Okay.
- I mean, Denise can fight her own battles.
- Okay.
- I mean, I'm really done with that.
- Okay. But to bring that up at the final party--
- I would love to see a reach out to Denise at some point.
- It's, like, we went for four months, and you have to bring
Denise up again. When are you gonna let it go?
- I have let it go. - When?
- Just now.
- Okay, thank the Lord Jesus.
- I don't care.
- Thank the Lord Jesus! Hallelujah!
- I don't care.
- I hope I never hear that again from you.
- You will not hear it from me, girl.
- Let me ask you a question.
Garcelle, you expressed your disappointment in Rinna
for not standing up for you throughout the season.
What were you expecting of her?
Given that you went into saying,
"Okay, we're on pause, I'm leery..."
- "I don't trust you."
- "I don't know, I don't trust you,"
what did you expect of her, that she didn't give you?
- I didn't expect for her to, like, stop everything
and come and save me. I don't need that. I felt like
when we were at your lip kit launch that--when Dorit
and I had our incident, for lack of a better word--and
I thought maybe Rinna would have been like,
"Well" --something, anything.
- But I agreed with Dorit. - Anything.
- You know? So I wouldn't have had your side,
because I thought what Dorit was saying was correct.
- Gotcha. -
I feel like the last couple of months
you've been making a lot of jabs at me.
What is going on?
- You know, Sutton,
I'm curious your reaction to this conversation.
You know, I mean, Garcelle's your--
- Yeah, and I think-- We've talked about this.
I think one of the trust things is Lisa not having my back too
and her saying, you know, "Lisa's your friend,
and she's not helping you out at all."
- Listen, if I [bleep] up, or I'd been mean to you,
or if I'd done something, I'd understand it."
- You--someone told me that you said
that I should have never brought race into this show,
that this show is not that kind of show.
And that really bothered me.
- Well, if that were the case, you should have come to me
and asked me that, because I did not say that.
- Oh, please, there's so many other things
you guys don't come to me and say directly.
- Yeah, but that's a big one. - That's a big one.
- No, that is a big one. - That's a big one, Garcelle.
- And you know what?
- Garcelle, I would never say that, by the way.
- I don't know that.
- Garcelle, you have it out for me, and I want to know why.
- I don't have it out for you, Rinna.
- Why? - No. But when you--
- Why? - When I heard that...
- Why? - That pissed me off.
- Well then why didn't you [bleep] come to me and say,
"Rinna, what are you doing"?
- Someone told me that you said
that I should have never brought race into this show,
that this show is not that kind of show.
And that pissed me off.
- Well then why didn't you [bleep] come to me and say,
"Rinna, what are you doing"?
- So you're gonna blame me for something that--
- I'm not blaming you.
- For being upset about something.
- I want to know why you were so mean to me all season,
and you go, "I heard that,
and that's why I was mean to you."
- The race thing really bothered me.
- I bet. - But I never said it!
So, where'd you get it?
- I'm not saying a word about that.
- You know, it's pretty unbelievable--
- But I was sent some texts. - That's really awful.
- You guys, that's pretty unbelievable
that you just did that.
- Okay, so not you're gonna turn it around...
- I'm not turning it around, honey.
- And use it, when I was the one that was hurt.
- You turned it around.
- No, I didn't. - You just did this.
- No, I didn't. - Yes, you did.
- No, I didn't. Why is this rattling you?
- You know why? - Why is it rattling you?
- Because you were [bleep]. You were so [bleep]
To me all season, and you're not being honest why.
That's not why you were [bleep] to me. Why were you--
- Why was I [bleep] to you? - You tell me. Why?
- Because I don't trust you. I didn't trust you.
- Okay, there we go! Then let's go there!
- I've been saying that!
- But here's the thing, why didn't you just say to me,
"Lisa, I don't want to be your friend.
I don't trust you"? Why did you say--
- I've that to you.
- No, but you say, "I want to move on.
Let's move on." And by the way--
- I said I'm open to moving on.
- But you said-- - I said I'm open to moving on.
- Okay. After the "Watch What Happens Live" moment
when you basically wanted to say,
"I want--we want Lisa Rinna fired so Denise can come back."
- No, I didn't say that.
- Are you in touch with Denise at all these days?
- I am. - You are?
- I am. - And--
- I think she wants to come back.
- Oh, really?
- Somebody's gotta go, though.
- Oh!
Are her initials LR? - Oh! I did not say--
- What you said was--
- I said--I know exactly what I said.
- You said Denise would come back...
- Right. - If someone else left.
- Yes.
- And were you referring to Lisa Rinna?
- I was referring to Lisa Rinna,
but you said LR, Andy Cohen.
- I said, "Are her initials LR?"
- You did.
- And I figured--yes. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- But you were referring to her.
- Yeah. - Okay.
- So let me ask you a question.
If you don't trust me, why did you reach out to me
after that and say, "Let's make things better"?
- No, you reached out to me and said...
- And said that hurt my-- - I threatened your job.
- I said and it hurt my feelings.
- You said a lot of things.
- Yeah. - You said a lot of things.
- Because--and they're all true.
- And then when I clarified it--and when I clarified it,
you were like,
"Oh, I guess I was just in my feelings."
- I was. - Okay.
- But you know what? What you just did
and what you just threw down, the insinuation...
- Yeah.
- It shows exactly who you are.
- So you want to tell me that every single one of you
were truly okay--the fact that all of a sudden now
we're talking about different things that you never--
- I'm okay with it.
- That you never had to talk about before.
- It is what it is. - Wait, but you do add
a completely different perspective, you know.
- And that's the real world. That's why it's great.
- I'm sorry. - This is real life.
- Well, I just don't understand why you had to say that,
because it's not true.
- She would have loved if you'd come to her, babe.
- Okay, well then say it's not true...
- It's not true! - And drop it.
- But she never had a chance before today.
- Then say it's not true and drop--okay,
well, I'm just telling her now.
- And you know what? - She can say it now.
- I'd like an apology for you insinuating that to me.
Because Garcelle, I would never say that.
I was happy that you came on the show.
I like you. Why would you insinuate that?
- I don't know.
- Unless you asked me yourself, "Lisa, did you say that?"
Or, "Lisa, do you feel that?" And I'd answer it.
- Would you really tell me
I wish you hadn't brought up race on the show?
Would you have actually said that to my face?
- Yeah, I would have. - Yeah. This one? Yeah.
- Look who you're talking to. - I guess as I wrap this out
I do wonder--I don't know where you two go from here.
- I don't know. - Why can't we move on?
- I don't know. - You--
- Do you want to move on?
- I've said that the entire season!
- What would you like to see me do that would look like--
- Just be the Garcelle I knew before.
You know, I gotta tell you one thing--
- You just be the Lisa I know before.
- I'd like to be.
- What happened to the Lisa I knew before.
- I'd like to tell you. - You were warm. You were fun.
- Am I not warm? - You were supportive.
- Am I not fun? - Yes are.
- Am I not supportive? - You are, but you're--look,
she's gonna call you on everything.
That's who she is. I mean--
- I mean, Harry's been watching,
and he said to me--he goes, "What happened to Garcelle?"
- Oh, stop.
- He said, "She looks so unhappy. Is she okay?"
- Oh, stop.
- I'm not kidding. - Do I look unhappy?
- I don't see you look miserable,
but I feel like you check out.
- I check out? Honey, I show up.
- So do I! - I show up.
I'm not saying you don't show up.
- I [bleep] show up.
- But why do you hold it with me?
You don't hold it with Kyle. You don't hold it with Dorit.
- I don't know. - Why do you hold it with me?
- I don't know.
- Maybe because you've known her the longest.
- Maybe. Maybe my expectations are higher.
- Uh-huh.
- Maybe my experiences are higher.
- Do you think that there would be any way--'cause
I would love to move on,
because when you and I are good, we're great.
- So good. - We're so funny.
- So good. - I love you so much.
I really do. I know it doesn't seem like I do.
- I'm sorry. - No, it doesn't.
- But I get really [bleep] mad at you, though!
I do a little.
- You can be mad at you. I'm mad at you!
- Okay. Okay, so what do we do?
- Well, it seems like one of the ways...
to rebuilt trust is just time.
- Right. - You know, and so--
- What have I said? Yes!
- This has now been a year where you've been...
- In action. - Rebuilding.
- Yeah. - And so--
- Garcelle, could we please-- - I need a roller.
- Oh, yeah, I'll let you borrow mine.
- Garcelle, let me come sit next to you for a second.
I want-- - Oh, gosh.
- I really, really--no, I'm serious.
I'm done with this.
- I want to move on with you.
I know you don't [bleep] trust me.
I know you don't [bleep] like me. But give me a chance.
- Just give me a chance.
- You got it. - There.
- Wow! - Just give me a chance!
- But do you mean it? Garcelle, do you mean it?
- What am I gonna do? She's right here!
No, I'm serious.
- Dorit, don't push it.
- I'm not talking to you right now.
- Shut up. - Do you mean it?
- We've got to move on. - Let's move on.
- Life is too [bleep] short.
- Agree. - Stop this bull[bleep].
- And mean it. - And let's move on!
- Garcelle, did you like the sauce?
- The sauce was great, which is why I loved it
so much that she brought it up.
- Lookit, I'm gonna grab her hard
and say you're not going anywhere.
Now, you stop this, and let's move on, God damn it!
- Let's move on! - Aww.
- I like you too much... - Me too.
- To do this anymore.
If I didn't like you, I'd say, "[bleep] you,
go away." [bleep], you know I would.
- Yeah, I know you do. - Okay, can we be done?
- Are we done? - Yeah.
- We're not doing it anymore.
- Can we go on commercial break?
- Okay. - Oh, my God.
- We're gonna take a break.
This is--this is positive. We're ending on positivity.
- Oh, my gosh! - We're gonna be right back.
- Oh, come on now. Lisa, no, not the legs.
- Watch out; you're gonna kick Sutton in the face.
- Oh, gosh! - Coming up next...
- I've said to Tom, "If you are in love with someone else,
divorce me and go be with her."
- He said?
- Welcome back to the
"Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.
We are joined by the one and only Kathy Hilton.
- Yeah! - Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome to the stage.
- And I have a few notes in case,
'cause I wanted to address a few things.
- We call these receipts, Kathy.
- Well, I see Garcelle's name.
- Bring it, Kathy. Bring it, bitch.
- Kathy, do you recognize where we're sitting tonight?
- I don't know.
- What does this look like to you?
- Oh. My house? - Yes!
[together] Yay!
- That's so--it's beautiful.
- How does it feel to be here? - I can't believe I'm here.
I really don't feel like it's real.
- I can't believe you're here either to be honest with you.
- Right?
- Well, you know, Kathy, after making
the occasional appearance on the show over the years...
- Mm-hmm. Did you order his boutonniere?
- What's a boutonniere? - What is a boutonniere?
- You're joking. - You're joking.
- Is that you're wearing.
- What do you mean? - I don't know.
- Thank God I was doing my magic act, because--
- You do magic now?
- Well, I did magic earlier. Where were you?
- Oh, my God.
- Why did you decide to join this gang now 11 years in?
- I pushed her. - I--yeah.
- Kyle, Grace from Roswell, Georgia, wonders,
"How exactly did you break your nose?
"Are you sure it wasn't an excuse
to get another nose job?"
- No, it was not an excuse, but I was happy
that it was broken, so I could get it done again.
- Were you unhappy with it before?
- Yeah, I wasn't thrilled.
But I actually did break it shooting "Halloween."
So I thought, okay, well, fine, I'll fix the bone that's broken
and make it a little cuter while I'm at it.
- So I heard you had an interesting encounter
on your way to the show this morning.
- Yeah, you could say that again.
Car is here.
I love you guys.
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Ahh!
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- Kathy, did you do that? - Did you--did you do that?
Oh, my God, that's amazing.
- No! That's good!
- Speaking of "Halloween Kills,"
what was it like stepping back into a role
that you first played 40 years ago?
- It was even more than that.
But it's been unbelievable reprising this role
all these years later,
working with Jamie Lee Curtis again.
And just, it's been amazing just to be part of this film
that's such a, you know, cult film.
- It means so much to so many people.
- So much. I mean, the "Halloween" fans
are like nothing I have ever seen.
It's gonna be great, and it comes out October 15th.
- Wow. - Yay!
- It's going to be in theaters, so you guys can go see it
and see what happens and see how I broke my nose.
- It gets bigger every year anyway.
- Exactly. Kathy likes to tell me
all the time, "You know, your ears and your nose
are gonna grow until you die."
I'm like, thanks for the reminder.
[laughter]
- Okay, switching gears to something serious.
Erika, I have a lot of questions about your marriage.
I remember when your book came out.
- Yeah.
- And I said to you, "What does Tom think of the book?"
- And I said he hadn't read it.
- And you said he hasn't read it.
- That's right.
- And I thought that was so [bleep] weird.
And I asked you about it, and you were so defensive.
What does Tom think?
- He hasn't read it either. No one's read it.
No one's read it in my family.
- I think that's weird. - Yeah. What's weird about it?
- I mean, you speak about him so much in the book.
- Yeah, and I speak about him very kindly.
I mean, he sounds great.
Look, Kyle's gonna defend Mauricio.
She's gonna defend Rick.
You know what I'm saying? This is what we do as women.
- And then last year
when you said he hadn't come to Chicago, I was blown away.
- That was big. Yeah. - So was I.
- What did Tom think, Erika?
- Well, you know, Tom wasn't able to come to the show.
We were waiting until the--yeah, Tom did not make it.
He was gonna come the last week, and COVID happened.
So he never saw the show.
I'm not giving him a pass for that,
because I know that he was in D.C.
and never bothered to come to New York City.
And I found that out later.
- Why not leave him sooner if he was cheating on you?
- The cheating is a part of it. There's so much more there.
And I've said to Tom, "If you are in love
with someone else, divorce me and go be with her."
- He said? - Nothing.
- Zero.
- Were you faithful to him?
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Next week, the reunion continues.
You brought me sauce? Are you kidding me?
- This is Harry Hamlin's sauce
that he made before he went to Canada.
- Make sure when you eat it you send a text the next day.
- I was about to say. - [laughs]
- Snuggle me, [inaudible].
[laughter]
- She had sent a picture of her tits.
And he has a flip phone, you know, so I responded,
"Nice tits, stupid bitch."
- You pretended to be my friend.
And you know what that is? Lying.
- No, that's actually just playing your ass.
I loved my husband.
Now he's allegedly defrauding widows,
orphans, and burn victims.
How the [bleep] do you think I feel?
- Why are you not saying it to the victims?
- Why would you leave with me
millions of dollars in lawsuits pointed at me?
- It's not doing any favors with the Instagram.
- It's feeding the fire.
- It became almost preposterous.
- Did any of you hear that Tom was having money problems?
- Andy knows as much as I do.
- It's only in Beverly Hills that everybody's so precious.
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