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- Tonight the four-part
Beverly Hills reunion begins.
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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[doorbell rings]
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- How are you?
- Hi!
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- You look wonderful.
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- You look wonderful.
- Get on in here.
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- Everyone's like,
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"Oh, my God, is she
gonna go to the reunion?"
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I'm like, "[bleep]
yeah, [bleep]."
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- Yeah, I'm going.
- "She's shown up
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for everything else.
Why wouldn't she?"
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- [bleep] quitter.
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Last night, I had a dream
that we were at the reunion.
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- Don't you say
that to me. Don't--
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- I can say anything
I want to say.
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- You go--
- So can I!
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- So can all of us.
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- There's gonna be some
shots taken and some shots fired.
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The moment you call me
a liar, it's game [bleep] on.
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- You don't know that!
- Let me finish, Garcelle!
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- Why didn't you
[bleep] come to say,
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"Rinna, what are you doing?"
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- And guess what. There's
gonna be some winners,
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and there's gonna
be some losers.
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- Well, that's life, baby.
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- Where's your
anger towards him?
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- Am I angry now enough for you?
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Remember when you
called me and you said,
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"These girls have
flipped on you"?
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- Well, that'll come up
at the reunion. Get ready.
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- Tonight the four-part
Beverly Hills reunion begins.
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Do you stand by your
assertion that the leather pants--
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- They weren't my favorite.
- I am longwinded.
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I just want to say this, Andy,
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and this is really
important, am I boring you?
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- Oh!
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- We are joined by the
one and only Kathy Hilton.
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- I have a few notes in case,
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'cause I wanted to
address a few things.
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- Bring it, Kathy!
Bring it, bitch.
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- All these things I
don't feel great about.
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I did them. It happened.
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Each and every one
of them haunts me.
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- You really experienced
threats and hate speech.
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- It's hundreds a day.
- Wow.
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- [sobbing]
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- First I say too much,
and then I don't say enough.
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- What you just threw down
shows exactly who you are.
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- You and your husband
and you and your husband
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were laughing at
my [bleep] up life.
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- I can't control what
comes out of their mouth.
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- And you know what? I can't
control what Tom Girardi did.
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- The way that you
spoke to me is not okay.
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- You were being a
bitchy [bleep] [bleep].
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- We're gonna put you
on a skewer, and I'm gonna
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fire up the barbecue.
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Why didn't you leave Tom sooner?
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- Where was I going?
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- I know what you
make on this show.
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- Hold on.
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- Did you feel you
were held captive?
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He's having multiple affairs.
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Yet as we know,
he put $20 million...
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- No.
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- And more into your
account. Who believes
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Erika did not know anything
about what Tom was doing?
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- Can someone please
back me the [bleep] up
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on what I'm saying?
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- You were manipulating
the narrative by saying
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that the cognitive decline
started three years ago.
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- That's not true.
Again here you are
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looking at me rolling your eyes.
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- It lands differently when
there are air crash victims.
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Have you asked him if he did it?
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- I asked him why am I--why...
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- I'm Ready.
- You're ready?
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- Right this way.
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- What time does
my sister get here?
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- Thanks, Radu.
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- How cushy and
comfortable for her.
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- If I don't put fake lashes
on, then I'm not in a reunion.
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- In 11 years of doing it,
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this one seems like
the stakes are higher.
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- Well, for some people
more than others, obviously.
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- How's it gonna go with Erika?
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- Keep seeing,
like, stories online
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that she's not talking to
me and she's not happy.
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- Well, is she talking to you?
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- No.
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- You nervous about seeing her?
- Yeah. She said she hated me.
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- I know who's gonna
come for me. I have an idea.
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- Who's coming for you?
- Dorit, Rinna. I'll handle it.
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- You always do.
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- Come on, baby. Let's go.
You're in the right room now.
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- Five minutes to air, everyone.
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Let's make sure
everybody's in place.
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- Come on in.
- Where are we sitting?
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- Oh, just seat yourself.
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- Ready came four on Andy.
- Steven.
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I need Steven to do hand makeup.
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- How do you make
the phone turn off?
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- We need a millennial.
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- All right, guys, let's go.
- Clear the set.
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- Three. Two.
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- Okay, you're stressing me out.
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- One.
- Hey, everybody.
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Welcome to the "Real
Housewives of Beverly Hills"
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season 11 reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen
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joined by the stunning
women of Beverly Hills.
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Hi, ladies. [together] Hi, Andy.
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- Crystal, welcome
to your first reunion.
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- Thanks.
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- How you feeling?
- I feel good.
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- I half--half expected you
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to show up in the leather pants.
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- They belong in the clubhouse.
- They do!
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I know, they do,
yes. Hi, Sutton.
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- Hi, Andy.
- How are you?
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- I'm good.
- And how's your ankle?
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- It's doing good. I
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- I see you're in high
heels. Those are some...
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- Y'all, I'm very--
- [inaudible] shoes.
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- I'm very excited, because
this is the highest heel
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that I've worn in
probably a year.
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- Really pretty.
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- Maybe we could put your
boot in the clubhouse too.
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- Oh, gosh, no.
- That's all right.
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- Like, "I'm good."
- Hi, Dorit.
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- Hi, Andy.
- Great to see you.
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- Good to see you as well.
- Are you wearing a Dorit...
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- Design.
- Wedding gown?
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- This is part of, like,
the ready-to-wear,
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but it could also be,
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you know, in the
wedding dress collection.
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It's got thousands of
embellished white glass pearls.
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- Looks great.
- I love it.
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- Thank you.
- Gorgeous.
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- Hi, Garcelle.
- Hi, Andy.
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- How you feeling?
- I'm good.
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- I noticed you sipping some
tequila just a few minutes ago.
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- Andy! Get my
picture with my tequila.
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- Did that--did that...
- Yeah, it's good.
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- Equalize you?
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- I mean, this is
my first in person.
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Last time was, you
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- Oh, that's true.
- Yeah, let's go.
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- All right. Hey, Rinna.
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- Hi.
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- Who is she tonight?
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- We haven't really named her.
- Okay.
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- Why don't you guys
come with a name?
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- Priscilla.
- Priscilla! I like Priscilla!
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- I like Priscilla.
- Yeah, I like that too.
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- What do you
think about Priscilla?
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All right.
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We agree on something.
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- Hey!
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- There we go. Good
way to start the day.
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- Love it.
- Hey, Kyle.
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- Hey, Andy.
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- Welcome to your 11th reunion.
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- Can you believe that?
- Wow.
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- You have a different sister
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that's gonna be
joining us tonight.
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- Yes, I do.
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- Having sat here
with you so many years
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when Kim was joining,
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when you two weren't
in the best place,
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tonight should be a
cakewalk with Kathy, right?
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- Absolutely.
- Yes. And I should mention,
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we are in a simulation of
Kathy Hilton's backyard.
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- That is incredible.
- What's your prediction?
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Will Kathy recognize
where we are?
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- I don't know. Maybe.
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- She's gonna say,
"Where are we?"
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- "What is this?"
- Yeah.
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- It's "inspired by."
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- Right. Right.
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- Yes.
- Hey, Erika. What's new?
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- A lot.
- Yes.
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- A lot is new.
- A lot is new.
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How are you feeling
about being here tonight?
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- I'm fine.
- Yeah?
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- Yeah.
- How'd you sleep?
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- Very well.
- Really?
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- Yeah. Was I supposed
to sleep any other way?
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- I don't know. I don't
know if today was something
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that you were looking
forward to or dreading.
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- Actually--no, actually I am.
- Why?
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- I'm looking forward
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to closing this
chapter and moving on.
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- Mm-hmm.
- So, yeah.
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- There's obviously so much
going on with you this season,
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and it's a highly
unusual situation,
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because things are still
unfolding as we speak,
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and even between the time
that we tape this and airing
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new things could come out.
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I mean, how are
you feeling about
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finally kind of addressing
this stuff with the viewers?
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- I'm happy to do so.
- You are.
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- I'm happy to say
everything that I can say.
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Please understand
there are some things
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that I cannot answer,
but I will do my best
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to give every part
of the story that I can.
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- Okay.
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- This is the toughest
part of my life.
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- I can imagine.
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- And I asked for patience
with the ladies and got some,
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and some I didn't. I
asked for an understanding
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that these things
are complicated,
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that I was finding them
out in real time myself,
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and I don't have all the answers
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and still do not have all
the answers to this day.
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- What do you
think at this moment
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is the biggest
misconception about you?
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- You know, there's a lot
of talk about me being cold
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and a lot of talk about me not
having empathy and sympathy.
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The truth is, I do, but I'm in
an almost impossible situation,
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and anyone that
has been wronged,
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I want them to be made whole.
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- You're talking about
the victim of Tom's--
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- Yeah, I'm talking
about the alleged victims
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of all of Tom's
alleged misdoings.
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And it's important that
people hear that from me.
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- Do you understand how
people watching could think
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that you don't have sympathy?
- Yes.
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- When you're
reading about victims,
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that's very hard to digest.
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- How do you think I feel?
Look at my [bleep] life.
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- [bleep].
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- But they're also looking
at it through their own eyes,
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and they don't know what I know,
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and they did not live
what I have lived through.
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- What was it like for you
watching the show back?
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- It was really, really hard.
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- What were your feelings
towards the other women
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as you watched their
reaction to it playing out?
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- Disappointment. Anger.
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Sadness. And then some hope
and some love and some support.
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- I know that, Sutton,
246
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you spoke to an attorney
at some point during filming.
247
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- I want to be clear, though.
I didn't talk to my attorney.
248
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I talked to a friend
who is an attorney.
249
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- Okay.
250
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- I didn't call my
attorney. That's all.
251
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- Did any of the other
women speak to attorneys?
252
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You did, Crystal.
253
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- I did.
- Yeah.
254
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- Just for the first time
signed legal documents
255
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to be on TV.
256
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So for me it was all
very overwhelming.
257
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But I consult my
lawyers a lot in general.
258
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- Anyone else?
- I asked Faye's husband,
259
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who is an attorney,
just to break down
260
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the "LA Times" article,
because it was so long.
261
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- I'm sure your lawyers
have had a lot to say
262
00:10:02,902 --> 00:10:05,739
as the episodes have aired.
263
00:10:05,772 --> 00:10:08,774
Did they ever advise
you to quit the show?
264
00:10:08,807 --> 00:10:11,110
- They did. And then I said no.
- Why?
265
00:10:11,144 --> 00:10:12,946
- Because I have
nothing to hide.
266
00:10:12,979 --> 00:10:15,280
And they said, "Well,
you know that this [bleep]
267
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can get flipped around you."
268
00:10:16,448 --> 00:10:18,985
- Meaning everything you
say can be used against you.
269
00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:21,888
- Everything can be parsed,
twisted, turned, and yes,
270
00:10:21,921 --> 00:10:25,191
possibly used against
you. Whether it is true or not,
271
00:10:25,225 --> 00:10:27,693
it almost doesn't even
matter at this point.
272
00:10:27,726 --> 00:10:29,495
- Did you ever think
of quitting the show?
273
00:10:29,528 --> 00:10:31,264
- Yes. But I'm not a quitter,
274
00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:32,932
and I wanted to
honor my commitment.
275
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And I wasn't gonna run away
from what's coming at me.
276
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- How much did the
fact that you don't have
277
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your former husband's
income to rely on play into this?
278
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This is now your main job.
279
00:10:47,413 --> 00:10:49,849
- Yeah. Unfortunately, it is.
280
00:10:49,883 --> 00:10:55,549
You know, that is more
now of a consideration.
281
00:10:55,879 --> 00:10:56,855
Back then, while we
were shooting the show,
282
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I was literally
trying to survive.
283
00:10:58,825 --> 00:11:01,610
- Okay.
- So now that we're here, yes,
284
00:11:01,940 --> 00:11:03,897
that has come more
into consideration.
285
00:11:03,929 --> 00:11:05,331
- You have not been
charged with a crime.
286
00:11:05,365 --> 00:11:06,865
- No.
287
00:11:06,899 --> 00:11:08,368
- Yet if you look
on social media--
288
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- You would think I had.
289
00:11:09,969 --> 00:11:13,173
- And you would see
a lot of people saying,
290
00:11:13,206 --> 00:11:15,240
"She needs to be
fired from the show."
291
00:11:15,274 --> 00:11:16,676
What's your reaction to that?
292
00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:18,745
- No.
- No what? No why?
293
00:11:18,778 --> 00:11:20,212
- Why would I--why
should I be fired?
294
00:11:20,245 --> 00:11:22,182
Why are you presuming
that I've done something?
295
00:11:22,215 --> 00:11:25,118
Why aren't we letting
the legal process play out?
296
00:11:25,150 --> 00:11:26,352
You've heard one side
297
00:11:26,385 --> 00:11:29,121
and a lot of
bull[bleep] on that side.
298
00:11:29,154 --> 00:11:31,423
Give me a chance to
defend myself. Watch me.
299
00:11:31,457 --> 00:11:33,726
I'm ready for the
challenge. Watch me do it.
300
00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:36,629
- All right, we're gonna
be right back after this.
301
00:11:38,865 --> 00:11:39,832
Coming up...
302
00:11:39,865 --> 00:11:41,167
how was she as a tenant, Kyle?
303
00:11:41,201 --> 00:11:42,902
- She did almost
burn my house down.
304
00:11:42,936 --> 00:11:44,971
- That is not my fault.
305
00:11:45,500 --> 00:11:46,105
- Sutton.
- We're gonna go to court.
306
00:11:46,106 --> 00:11:47,974
- Who was living there?
307
00:11:53,913 --> 00:11:54,813
- Welcome back to the
308
00:11:54,847 --> 00:11:58,851
"Real Housewives of
Beverly Hills" reunion.
309
00:11:58,884 --> 00:12:00,787
Sutton, you were
kind of front and center
310
00:12:00,820 --> 00:12:02,187
with a lot of the
drama this season.
311
00:12:02,221 --> 00:12:05,124
The big question is whether
you brought your face roller today
312
00:12:05,125 --> 00:12:06,259
to keep you calm.
313
00:12:06,292 --> 00:12:09,395
- It is in my
trailer. Roll it out.
314
00:12:09,428 --> 00:12:11,970
- It's in your trailer?
You may need it out here.
315
00:12:11,130 --> 00:12:12,264
- I know.
316
00:12:12,298 --> 00:12:14,234
- Well, some call
her over-the-top.
317
00:12:14,267 --> 00:12:16,702
Others call her
overly sensitive.
318
00:12:16,735 --> 00:12:20,373
But despite outside
opinions, Sutton is just trying
319
00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:25,412
to live her best life one
Sutty Buddy Butthole at a time.
320
00:12:25,445 --> 00:12:27,212
- That sounds so...
- Let's watch. I know.
321
00:12:27,246 --> 00:12:29,182
- Grindr-ish.
- I know.
322
00:12:29,215 --> 00:12:30,884
Sorry. I didn't like it up.
323
00:12:30,917 --> 00:12:33,787
- I didn't make it up either.
- You're going kind of slow.
324
00:12:33,820 --> 00:12:35,154
- Okay, wait, I'll
give her a little kick.
325
00:12:35,187 --> 00:12:38,758
- Yeah! Oh, my God!
326
00:12:38,792 --> 00:12:41,293
Sutton is fun.
She's a little odd.
327
00:12:41,326 --> 00:12:43,196
She's a little
kooky. But I like that.
328
00:12:43,229 --> 00:12:46,989
- I don't know what
you're doing over there.
329
00:12:46,990 --> 00:12:48,099
- Did I say it like that?
- Mr. Poppins.
330
00:12:48,100 --> 00:12:51,370
- When I saw that
dadgum doo-doo nail
331
00:12:51,403 --> 00:12:53,706
pointing at my face...
- [laughs]
332
00:12:53,740 --> 00:12:56,775
- This helps me,
333
00:12:56,809 --> 00:12:58,812
because I feel so uncomfortable.
334
00:12:58,845 --> 00:13:01,715
- Sutton should win an Oscar
for being a drama queen.
335
00:13:01,748 --> 00:13:04,817
- I pray to Jesus every day.
You think he'd throw me a bone.
336
00:13:04,850 --> 00:13:08,120
- What's up?
- I just need a vodka.
337
00:13:08,153 --> 00:13:13,225
- Oh, my God, I think Sutton
is more hormonal than my kids.
338
00:13:13,259 --> 00:13:14,894
And they're teenagers.
339
00:13:14,927 --> 00:13:16,462
- I'm telling you right
now as your friend
340
00:13:16,495 --> 00:13:18,331
you're being overly
sensitive. Look at me.
341
00:13:18,365 --> 00:13:19,932
- You are sensitive...
- [bleep] pay attention to me.
342
00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:22,369
- I--okay. All right.
- No. Pay attention.
343
00:13:22,402 --> 00:13:24,370
It is like taking
care of a toddler.
344
00:13:24,403 --> 00:13:25,772
You gotta help her up.
345
00:13:25,804 --> 00:13:28,240
You have to put her in the seat.
346
00:13:28,274 --> 00:13:31,110
- Oh! We did that
very well and elegantly.
347
00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:32,345
- She gets upset.
348
00:13:32,379 --> 00:13:34,813
She doesn't listen.
She does on and on.
349
00:13:34,847 --> 00:13:37,350
- I was ridiculous, crazy,
paranoid, and irrational,
350
00:13:37,384 --> 00:13:39,849
and too sensitive. I've got it.
351
00:13:39,850 --> 00:13:40,486
- Yeah.
- [inaudible].
352
00:13:40,519 --> 00:13:41,888
- Why are you
defensive about that?
353
00:13:41,921 --> 00:13:43,123
- Defensive.
- Take that in.
354
00:13:43,155 --> 00:13:44,323
- Add the defensive.
- Defensive.
355
00:13:44,356 --> 00:13:45,892
- Oh, for the love
of God. I mean--
356
00:13:45,924 --> 00:13:46,960
- It's true.
357
00:13:46,993 --> 00:13:50,163
- I want to put a pacifier
in her mouth sometimes.
358
00:13:50,196 --> 00:13:51,865
- Bought a house,
and it's crazy,
359
00:13:51,898 --> 00:13:54,967
and I think it really, like,
released something in me.
360
00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:58,804
After my divorce, I personally
was a shell of a person,
361
00:13:58,837 --> 00:14:01,423
and ended up at the
finish line with a new house
362
00:14:01,424 --> 00:14:03,109
and a new Bentley
and great friends
363
00:14:03,143 --> 00:14:04,878
and living my best life.
364
00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:07,279
I'm a strong,
impassioned woman...
365
00:14:07,312 --> 00:14:10,499
That makes me want to cry.
366
00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:12,751
Who really doesn't
give a [bleep].
367
00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:17,123
- Aww.
- I cried a lot.
368
00:14:17,157 --> 00:14:20,427
- You did cry a lot.
- And I was hormonal, I think.
369
00:14:20,460 --> 00:14:22,294
- Cody from Cupertino said,
370
00:14:22,327 --> 00:14:24,397
"Sutton, your therapist
mom seems tough as nails."
371
00:14:24,431 --> 00:14:25,465
- Whew!
372
00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:28,201
- What was it like being
psychoanalyzed growing up?
373
00:14:28,234 --> 00:14:31,937
- She's still very hard on
me. When I say something,
374
00:14:31,971 --> 00:14:34,139
she really wants to get to
the deeper meaning of it.
375
00:14:34,173 --> 00:14:37,376
Sometimes I just don't say
anything, 'cause it's easier.
376
00:14:37,409 --> 00:14:38,912
- What was her reaction
377
00:14:38,945 --> 00:14:40,145
to seeing you on the
show this season?
378
00:14:40,179 --> 00:14:43,216
- You know what's interesting,
when we did the flashback
379
00:14:43,249 --> 00:14:46,552
to talk about my
dad, she said nothing.
380
00:14:46,586 --> 00:14:48,388
I wish you had
come to the opening.
381
00:14:48,421 --> 00:14:50,923
There's a lot of Dad in this.
382
00:14:50,956 --> 00:14:53,826
Don't you miss
him, like, a little?
383
00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:57,931
- I don't miss him.
- What was her reaction
384
00:14:57,963 --> 00:15:00,330
to how you and Crystal
were not getting along?
385
00:15:00,659 --> 00:15:02,501
- She sent me a text,
and she said, you know,
386
00:15:02,534 --> 00:15:06,306
"With Crystal, you just need
to take her for what she is
387
00:15:06,339 --> 00:15:07,474
and not take things so..."
388
00:15:07,506 --> 00:15:09,418
- Personal.
389
00:15:09,419 --> 00:15:10,409
- "Personally." And
she said, "Don't do that.
390
00:15:10,442 --> 00:15:12,111
Y'all are just kind
of different people,
391
00:15:12,144 --> 00:15:14,214
and don't get so reactive."
392
00:15:14,246 --> 00:15:15,849
- And did you
follow that advice?
393
00:15:15,881 --> 00:15:17,499
- Yeah, I think I did.
394
00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:19,586
And it's also very funny,
one of my best friends said,
395
00:15:19,619 --> 00:15:21,587
"I think you and Crystal are
more alike than you know."
396
00:15:21,620 --> 00:15:23,123
- I've heard that
too from friends.
397
00:15:23,155 --> 00:15:24,591
- Really?
- Yeah. Yeah.
398
00:15:24,624 --> 00:15:27,599
'Cause I'm also
quite reactive too.
399
00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,428
- How has your store
managed during the pandemic?
400
00:15:29,461 --> 00:15:30,429
- It's been great, actually.
401
00:15:30,462 --> 00:15:32,131
It's growing bigger and
bigger--my business.
402
00:15:32,164 --> 00:15:33,133
Really growing.
403
00:15:33,165 --> 00:15:34,567
- Did you just point at
me when you said that?
404
00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,689
- Yes. It is a business.
405
00:15:36,690 --> 00:15:37,269
- Oh!
- It's growing.
406
00:15:37,302 --> 00:15:38,871
It's growing, actually,
407
00:15:38,904 --> 00:15:40,606
excrementally--more
than I thought that it would.
408
00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:42,542
- Did you shade her business?
- Did you shade her business?
409
00:15:42,575 --> 00:15:44,210
- Did I--what'd I
say in an interview?
410
00:15:44,244 --> 00:15:45,945
- Sutton doesn't
really have a business.
411
00:15:45,979 --> 00:15:47,212
- Well...
- No, but I'm saying.
412
00:15:47,246 --> 00:15:48,548
- She has her store.
- She has the shop.
413
00:15:48,581 --> 00:15:49,915
- She has her store...
- Okay.
414
00:15:49,948 --> 00:15:50,950
- But you know what I'm saying.
- Okay.
415
00:15:50,984 --> 00:15:53,318
- It's not like--like, I
don't understand that.
416
00:15:53,352 --> 00:15:54,921
Oh. Well, you had a store,
417
00:15:54,953 --> 00:15:56,322
so I didn't consider a
business at the time.
418
00:15:56,355 --> 00:15:57,256
- Uh-huh.
- But it is.
419
00:15:57,289 --> 00:15:59,325
- It is.
- Sutton, it was kind of funny.
420
00:15:59,359 --> 00:16:03,529
I mean, how would Amelia
and Porter vibe on a playdate?
421
00:16:03,562 --> 00:16:06,566
You said, "I don't think so."
422
00:16:06,599 --> 00:16:09,436
Yeah, I don't know
about that playdate.
423
00:16:09,469 --> 00:16:13,388
I don't know
about that. [laughs]
424
00:16:13,389 --> 00:16:14,106
- What was your
reaction to that?
425
00:16:14,139 --> 00:16:15,107
- It didn't feel great,
426
00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:16,576
because we're, like,
momma bears with our kids.
427
00:16:16,609 --> 00:16:17,644
- Yeah.
428
00:16:17,677 --> 00:16:20,346
- You know, so I, of
course, didn't love it. No.
429
00:16:20,379 --> 00:16:22,948
- They just grew
up in a different way.
430
00:16:23,490 --> 00:16:24,551
Porter didn't grow up
with Hollywood parents,
431
00:16:24,583 --> 00:16:26,119
so it's a very
different lifestyle.
432
00:16:26,152 --> 00:16:28,520
I didn't mean it in a bad way.
433
00:16:28,554 --> 00:16:30,657
- Sutton, have you moved
into your new house yet?
434
00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:34,360
- I did. We moved in last week.
435
00:16:34,394 --> 00:16:35,528
I'm in.
436
00:16:35,562 --> 00:16:37,663
This is where the
[inaudible] should go.
437
00:16:37,697 --> 00:16:40,133
This has been one of
the craziest journeys
438
00:16:40,165 --> 00:16:43,689
I think I've ever
sone. It feels amazing.
439
00:16:43,690 --> 00:16:44,636
Every morning I
wake up, and I'm, like,
440
00:16:44,671 --> 00:16:45,672
this is amazing.
441
00:16:45,705 --> 00:16:48,341
It's so great. I'm so happy.
442
00:16:48,375 --> 00:16:49,274
- So you wound up living
443
00:16:49,308 --> 00:16:52,379
at Kyle's old Bel-Air
house for how long?
444
00:16:52,412 --> 00:16:54,547
- Well, for a long time.
- Almost a year.
445
00:16:54,581 --> 00:16:56,349
- How was she as a tenant, Kyle?
446
00:16:56,383 --> 00:16:58,217
- I was actually so
happy to have her there.
447
00:16:58,250 --> 00:17:00,352
She was a great tenant,
448
00:17:00,386 --> 00:17:02,589
although she did almost
burn my house down.
449
00:17:02,621 --> 00:17:06,125
- I did? I did? What did I do?
450
00:17:06,159 --> 00:17:08,260
Did I really?
Stop it. I did not.
451
00:17:08,294 --> 00:17:09,362
- No, I swear.
- I did? What did I do?
452
00:17:09,395 --> 00:17:12,531
- Well, because they just
did, like, a walkthrough,
453
00:17:12,565 --> 00:17:14,299
and they're like,
454
00:17:14,334 --> 00:17:16,635
"The house was almost burnt
down with the fireplace there."
455
00:17:16,670 --> 00:17:20,440
- Why? Well, I know, I
saw the--the smoky stuff.
456
00:17:20,472 --> 00:17:23,509
- The smoky--wait, no, hold
on. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
457
00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:25,711
They sent me the
picture. Wait, wait.
458
00:17:25,744 --> 00:17:27,413
- Yeah.
- Look. Wait, look.
459
00:17:27,446 --> 00:17:30,114
- Oh!
- Why it is doing that, though?
460
00:17:30,115 --> 00:17:31,718
- Because you almost
burned the house down!
461
00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:33,117
- Oh, [bleep].
462
00:17:33,118 --> 00:17:34,453
- Oh!
- It is not my fault.
463
00:17:34,487 --> 00:17:36,588
I just turned the fireplace on.
464
00:17:36,623 --> 00:17:38,958
- And so the house
is standing in Bel-Air,
465
00:17:39,589 --> 00:17:40,160
and it's on the market?
466
00:17:40,192 --> 00:17:41,161
- We took it off the market,
467
00:17:41,193 --> 00:17:43,163
'cause we have to do
some repairs right now.
468
00:17:43,195 --> 00:17:45,265
[laughter]
469
00:17:45,298 --> 00:17:47,433
- Well, wouldn't that come
out of her security deposit?
470
00:17:47,467 --> 00:17:48,468
- I didn't know there was one.
471
00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:49,635
- We didn't ask for one.
- She didn't ask for one.
472
00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:52,204
- Because she was supposed
to be there only one month.
473
00:17:52,238 --> 00:17:54,307
- You know I'll fix anything.
- I know that.
474
00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:56,434
I know. That's why
I'm laughing about it.
475
00:17:56,435 --> 00:17:58,444
- It was not--that
is not my fault.
476
00:17:58,478 --> 00:17:59,578
We're gonna go to court.
477
00:17:59,612 --> 00:18:03,114
- Who was living there?
- Oh, good, someone else...
478
00:18:03,115 --> 00:18:05,285
- Right.
- Besides me.
479
00:18:05,317 --> 00:18:07,487
- All right, on that note,
we're gonna take a break.
480
00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:08,555
Next...
481
00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:09,756
- You didn't say anything
in the moment, and then--
482
00:18:09,788 --> 00:18:11,517
- You don't know that.
483
00:18:11,518 --> 00:18:13,460
- Let me finish, Garcelle!
484
00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:23,169
- So what look were you goinfo
485
00:18:23,202 --> 00:18:26,439
- Hot. Single.
486
00:18:26,472 --> 00:18:28,273
- Speaking of single, have
you considered dating?
487
00:18:28,307 --> 00:18:29,308
Are you seeing anybody?
488
00:18:29,342 --> 00:18:30,542
- I'm trying!
489
00:18:30,576 --> 00:18:31,744
- Are you?
- Yes!
490
00:18:31,778 --> 00:18:33,546
I'd love--anybody,
hello, help. Yes.
491
00:18:33,579 --> 00:18:35,315
- What kind of guy
are you looking for?
492
00:18:35,347 --> 00:18:36,415
- Something with a big penis.
493
00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:37,683
- Ooh!
- Really?
494
00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:39,518
- Yeah.
- Okay.
495
00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:40,252
- Yeah. I would
like some hot sex.
496
00:18:40,286 --> 00:18:41,453
- I'm sure you're gonna have
497
00:18:41,488 --> 00:18:43,559
a lot of takers
after that comment.
498
00:18:43,890 --> 00:18:44,557
- Well, I'm just saying.
- The DMs are--are open.
499
00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:46,588
- For sure.
500
00:18:46,589 --> 00:18:47,292
- Coming in.
- Okay.
501
00:18:47,326 --> 00:18:48,560
- Well, they are open.
502
00:18:48,595 --> 00:18:50,629
- Sutton, you and your boyfriend
503
00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:52,231
Michael broke up, unfortunately.
504
00:18:52,265 --> 00:18:53,566
- Yes.
- What happened?
505
00:18:53,599 --> 00:18:55,535
- We're on a nice
Valentine's weekend,
506
00:18:55,567 --> 00:18:57,699
and he broke up weekend.
507
00:18:57,700 --> 00:18:58,238
- On the weekend?
- Oh, wow.
508
00:18:58,270 --> 00:18:59,471
- On Valentine's weekend?
- Yes.
509
00:18:59,506 --> 00:19:00,640
- That's not okay.
That's not okay.
510
00:19:00,673 --> 00:19:02,741
- So it wasn't that nice of a
Valentine's weekend. Wow.
511
00:19:02,776 --> 00:19:04,243
- Well, I guess
it wasn't that nice
512
00:19:04,277 --> 00:19:05,345
of a Valentine's weekend, then.
513
00:19:05,377 --> 00:19:07,212
- What reason did he give you?
514
00:19:07,247 --> 00:19:08,580
- That he--he
said, "I just can't."
515
00:19:08,615 --> 00:19:09,749
- "I just can't"?
- Yeah.
516
00:19:09,782 --> 00:19:10,884
- Wow.
517
00:19:10,916 --> 00:19:13,553
- There's really no comeback
to that. I was devastated.
518
00:19:13,586 --> 00:19:15,549
But now I'm not. I'm dating.
519
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,122
- Good.
- You are.
520
00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:17,390
- Good.
- Yes.
521
00:19:17,423 --> 00:19:18,324
- Who are you dating?
522
00:19:18,357 --> 00:19:20,259
- You know what?
I'm--I think I'm dating--
523
00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:21,461
- 'Cause I ain't got no
dates. What the [bleep].
524
00:19:21,493 --> 00:19:23,797
- In my life. Dating's fun.
I highly recommend it.
525
00:19:23,829 --> 00:19:27,299
- Garcelle, Payton from Dallas
wants to know if your son Jade
526
00:19:27,334 --> 00:19:29,602
has come around to the idea
of you getting married again,
527
00:19:29,635 --> 00:19:31,738
or does he want to be
the main man in your life?
528
00:19:31,770 --> 00:19:33,390
- No, I think that was a moment.
529
00:19:33,730 --> 00:19:36,442
I don't really believe that,
'cause they've met, you know,
530
00:19:36,476 --> 00:19:39,450
like, one or two people
that I've dated in the past,
531
00:19:39,789 --> 00:19:40,814
and they didn't
seem that protective.
532
00:19:40,846 --> 00:19:44,584
It felt like it was something
he was going through.
533
00:19:44,616 --> 00:19:46,586
But I think he'd be okay if
it was someone he knew
534
00:19:46,618 --> 00:19:48,621
that I was genuinely happy with.
535
00:19:48,654 --> 00:19:51,257
- Well, this season,
Garcelle often felt like
536
00:19:51,290 --> 00:19:53,159
she didn't quite belong.
537
00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:56,628
Did "The Real" host have
herself some fake friends?
538
00:19:56,663 --> 00:20:00,799
Or was she not making
a "real" effort? Watch.
539
00:20:00,834 --> 00:20:04,304
- I don't know where I sit,
honestly, with this group.
540
00:20:04,336 --> 00:20:05,637
I feel like--in a way,
541
00:20:05,672 --> 00:20:07,374
feel like an
outsider a little bit.
542
00:20:07,406 --> 00:20:09,409
I think ever since I started
hanging with this group,
543
00:20:09,442 --> 00:20:12,446
I felt like there's an
inner circle to our group.
544
00:20:12,447 --> 00:20:14,513
I feel like the four
of you are together,
545
00:20:14,547 --> 00:20:16,583
and then me and
Crystal and Sutton
546
00:20:16,615 --> 00:20:18,351
are on the other
side of everything.
547
00:20:18,384 --> 00:20:20,529
- Why? Do you really?
- I do. I do.
548
00:20:20,859 --> 00:20:22,454
And I just feel like you
guys look out for each other,
549
00:20:22,489 --> 00:20:25,125
but I don't feel like
you look out for me.
550
00:20:25,157 --> 00:20:26,558
- Do you like the
women at this table?
551
00:20:26,593 --> 00:20:27,660
- Absolutely!
552
00:20:27,693 --> 00:20:29,429
- Okay.
- Some more than others.
553
00:20:29,461 --> 00:20:30,663
- Okay.
554
00:20:30,696 --> 00:20:34,166
Garcelle throws little darts,
and people are like, "Ow."
555
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,470
- The regular goldfish is Kyle.
- Oh, [bleep].
556
00:20:37,503 --> 00:20:40,573
- Why is Kyle a goldfish?
557
00:20:40,606 --> 00:20:44,210
It's ordinary. She's longwinded.
558
00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:46,278
Should you give her a timer?
559
00:20:46,311 --> 00:20:47,681
- Is that another
opportunity for you
560
00:20:47,713 --> 00:20:50,549
to throw a little
passive-aggressive dig?
561
00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,653
Because of course
there's a smile.
562
00:20:53,686 --> 00:20:55,689
Do you have a problem
with me, Garcelle?
563
00:20:55,721 --> 00:20:58,357
I start to think, jeez, you
had a problem with Kyle,
564
00:20:58,391 --> 00:21:00,226
and then what you
did in Palm Springs,
565
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:01,394
which in my opinion--
566
00:21:01,428 --> 00:21:03,896
- [bleep] you with that.
567
00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:06,398
- That's from Crystal,
Kathy, and me.
568
00:21:06,432 --> 00:21:09,336
- Yes!
- Let me see. Let me see.
569
00:21:09,368 --> 00:21:10,336
- Wow!
- Wait.
570
00:21:10,369 --> 00:21:12,705
- Should I do it like this?
[together] Yes!
571
00:21:12,739 --> 00:21:15,141
- That is beautiful.
- Thank you so much.
572
00:21:15,174 --> 00:21:16,175
- You're very welcome.
573
00:21:16,209 --> 00:21:18,678
- I think that we've all
really made an effort
574
00:21:18,711 --> 00:21:22,214
to make Garcelle feel more
comfortable in this group.
575
00:21:22,248 --> 00:21:23,650
It's Kyle's birthday.
576
00:21:23,682 --> 00:21:25,852
- Oh, I didn't know that!
- Here's the thing,
577
00:21:25,884 --> 00:21:29,622
friendship is a two-way street,
and she has to make an effort.
578
00:21:29,655 --> 00:21:34,728
- My whole [bleep] life
I've had to try to fit in.
579
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,730
- But you fit in here.
- You do fit in.
580
00:21:36,762 --> 00:21:38,597
- It doesn't always
feel like that.
581
00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:40,266
I walk in a room all the time,
582
00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:42,434
and I always have
to prove myself!
583
00:21:42,469 --> 00:21:43,536
Have you guys ever
walked into a room
584
00:21:43,569 --> 00:21:46,538
and felt like you're the
only one that's different?
585
00:21:46,573 --> 00:21:50,576
- Yeah.
586
00:21:50,609 --> 00:21:54,913
- Try it your whole life.
587
00:21:54,948 --> 00:21:56,182
Whew.
588
00:21:56,215 --> 00:21:57,750
- Garcelle, you
were so vulnerable
589
00:21:57,784 --> 00:22:00,452
when you opened up
to the group in Del Mar.
590
00:22:00,487 --> 00:22:02,756
Did you have any
follow-up conversations
591
00:22:02,788 --> 00:22:04,457
with anyone after that?
592
00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:07,760
- Rinna and Dorit came up to
me and said, "How did it feel?"
593
00:22:07,794 --> 00:22:10,329
And it made them see
me in a different way,
594
00:22:10,363 --> 00:22:11,865
and it made me
feel like I opened up
595
00:22:11,897 --> 00:22:13,532
differently too to them.
596
00:22:13,566 --> 00:22:15,167
- Did you feel
closer to Garcelle
597
00:22:15,201 --> 00:22:16,201
after she opened up that night?
598
00:22:16,236 --> 00:22:17,369
- Absolutely. Absolutely.
599
00:22:17,403 --> 00:22:18,904
- Yeah. I mean, you
know, Garcelle was
600
00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:23,542
one of those people that I felt
an immediate bond towards.
601
00:22:23,576 --> 00:22:27,646
I think that Garcelle can
be passively provocative,
602
00:22:27,681 --> 00:22:30,784
and it doesn't really give
someone a chance to respond
603
00:22:30,817 --> 00:22:32,484
or defend themselves.
604
00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:35,422
I liked that she opened up
and was vulnerable in Del Mar,
605
00:22:35,454 --> 00:22:38,324
because I really believe
that showing that vulnerability
606
00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:40,527
was really real and raw,
607
00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:44,297
and it was like this part
of her which I had felt
608
00:22:44,329 --> 00:22:46,965
that she was doing deliberately,
609
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,768
again, passively provocative,
610
00:22:48,801 --> 00:22:51,637
almost to be relevant,
to be interesting.
611
00:22:51,671 --> 00:22:53,640
- What? I don't need to
do anything to be relevant.
612
00:22:53,673 --> 00:22:54,574
Let me just say that.
613
00:22:54,606 --> 00:22:57,676
- Okay. Well, I felt
like you've taken jabs
614
00:22:57,711 --> 00:23:00,814
and swipes at me. And
then I confronted you,
615
00:23:00,846 --> 00:23:03,817
and then you made it seem
that I was coming after you.
616
00:23:03,849 --> 00:23:05,509
In that moment,
617
00:23:05,849 --> 00:23:07,354
I used a word that I shouldn't
have used, and it was wrong.
618
00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:08,355
- Yes, you did.
- Yeah, and--
619
00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:10,522
- And I need an
apology for that, honestly.
620
00:23:10,557 --> 00:23:12,959
- You're making
a lot of jabs at me.
621
00:23:13,589 --> 00:23:18,530
- Have I?
- It's like a bully.
622
00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:21,233
- I need an apology
for that. I am not a bully.
623
00:23:21,267 --> 00:23:22,368
- Garcelle.
- Yes.
624
00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:24,837
- You didn't give me a
chance to actually apologize.
625
00:23:24,871 --> 00:23:26,839
- Because it was hurtful.
- I completely--
626
00:23:26,873 --> 00:23:28,607
- It was hurtful...
- Garcelle, I raised it--
627
00:23:28,641 --> 00:23:30,276
- And also unnecessary.
628
00:23:30,309 --> 00:23:31,443
- I raised it. I raised it.
- Okay.
629
00:23:31,478 --> 00:23:32,612
- That was the wrong word.
- Okay.
630
00:23:32,644 --> 00:23:35,280
- And I want you to understand
that popped in my head,
631
00:23:35,315 --> 00:23:39,752
because an element of a
bully is incessive. It's incessant.
632
00:23:39,786 --> 00:23:43,390
I felt like the jabs you were
doing at me were incessant.
633
00:23:43,423 --> 00:23:46,859
- You got absolutely
hazed for calling her a bully.
634
00:23:46,893 --> 00:23:48,394
- Right.
635
00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:49,762
- Bridget from Arkansas said,
636
00:23:49,796 --> 00:23:53,432
after witnessing Erika verbally
attack Teddy, Eileen, Sutton,
637
00:23:53,465 --> 00:23:55,501
and being on the
receiving end yourself,
638
00:23:55,535 --> 00:23:59,538
why call Garcelle a
bully and not Erika?
639
00:23:59,572 --> 00:24:02,419
King Danielle said Dorit
using the word "bully"
640
00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:03,876
is an attempt to paint Garcelle
641
00:24:03,910 --> 00:24:06,459
into the angry Black
woman stereotype.
642
00:24:06,460 --> 00:24:07,480
That's a new low.
643
00:24:07,513 --> 00:24:09,516
So, Dorit, what's your
response to all this?
644
00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:11,851
- Okay, well, that's
very layered, you know,
645
00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:13,519
so let me just break this down.
646
00:24:13,553 --> 00:24:16,288
First of all, that was
not at all in an effort
647
00:24:16,321 --> 00:24:17,891
to paint that picture.
648
00:24:17,923 --> 00:24:21,533
And like I just said, an
element of the word "bully"
649
00:24:21,534 --> 00:24:23,496
is incessant, and when
Erika had had moments
650
00:24:23,529 --> 00:24:25,298
with all of the ones
that you mentioned,
651
00:24:25,330 --> 00:24:26,499
they were all
isolated incidents.
652
00:24:26,532 --> 00:24:27,733
- Oh, come on.
653
00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:30,470
- This was over a
period of months.
654
00:24:30,502 --> 00:24:32,806
Listen, I will own all day long
655
00:24:32,838 --> 00:24:34,874
that I can choose words
poorly. I wish I could take it back.
656
00:24:34,907 --> 00:24:36,142
- It's okay.
657
00:24:36,175 --> 00:24:38,577
- And it wasn't the right word,
and I'm very sorry for that.
658
00:24:38,611 --> 00:24:39,612
- Thank you.
659
00:24:39,645 --> 00:24:43,115
- But Garcelle says a
lot in her confessionals,
660
00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:45,451
but she doesn't say
it directly to your face.
661
00:24:45,484 --> 00:24:47,787
- That's not true.
- I'd have to agree with Dorit.
662
00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:48,922
- We all do it.
- I mean, but you all do it.
663
00:24:48,954 --> 00:24:49,855
- We all do it.
664
00:24:49,888 --> 00:24:51,124
- We all do it. We
absolutely all do it.
665
00:24:51,156 --> 00:24:52,459
- We all do it.
- Well...
666
00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:53,460
- You seem to do it the most.
- Yeah.
667
00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:54,461
- No, I don't think that's true.
668
00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:55,627
- And there's a lot of times--
669
00:24:55,662 --> 00:24:56,962
- You're the most
comfortable doing it.
670
00:24:56,996 --> 00:24:59,798
- You don't say much when we're
together, or to someone's face,
671
00:24:59,833 --> 00:25:01,433
and then you'll say
it in the confessional.
672
00:25:01,468 --> 00:25:04,938
- First I say too much,
and then I don't say enough.
673
00:25:05,380 --> 00:25:06,373
Like, I can't win with you.
674
00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:07,374
- It's not direct.
- I can't win.
675
00:25:07,406 --> 00:25:09,509
- No, you can.
- It is direct. It is direct.
676
00:25:09,541 --> 00:25:10,576
- No, it's not.
- I've said to you, Dorit--
677
00:25:10,609 --> 00:25:12,479
- It's very passive.
- Dorit, I've said to you--
678
00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:13,546
- And it's with a smile.
- Come on.
679
00:25:13,579 --> 00:25:15,414
- You've said--you said
you want her to be direct,
680
00:25:15,448 --> 00:25:17,483
but then you accuse of
her of throwing darts, so...
681
00:25:17,517 --> 00:25:19,652
- Thank you.
- I want her to be direct.
682
00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:20,920
I don't want her to throw darts.
683
00:25:20,953 --> 00:25:22,122
Throwing darts is
not being direct, Andy.
684
00:25:22,154 --> 00:25:23,323
- Okay.
685
00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:24,958
- When you have an issue
with someone, you look at them,
686
00:25:25,579 --> 00:25:26,425
you tell them you have an issue.
687
00:25:26,459 --> 00:25:27,626
- Okay.
688
00:25:27,660 --> 00:25:30,529
- You don't throw a passive-
aggressive jab with a smile.
689
00:25:30,563 --> 00:25:31,597
- Okay.
- Oh, please.
690
00:25:31,631 --> 00:25:33,967
And can I just say this?
Don't we all want to grow?
691
00:25:34,670 --> 00:25:35,501
If somebody keeps saying to you,
692
00:25:35,535 --> 00:25:37,436
don't you want to
go look at it and go--
693
00:25:37,470 --> 00:25:39,138
- Not at this age,
honey. I'm set.
694
00:25:39,172 --> 00:25:41,207
- I said you talk too much.
695
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,743
You go for my integrity
and call me inauthentic
696
00:25:44,778 --> 00:25:46,479
and call me a
bully, which you've...
697
00:25:46,512 --> 00:25:47,913
- Apologized for.
- Apologized for..
698
00:25:47,947 --> 00:25:48,914
- Apologized.
- So we're gonna
699
00:25:48,948 --> 00:25:49,982
put that aside,
700
00:25:50,829 --> 00:25:50,983
and we're really
gonna put it aside.
701
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:52,848
- Great.
- That's nice.
702
00:25:52,849 --> 00:25:52,919
- I'm not one to bring it
back up again. All right?
703
00:25:52,951 --> 00:25:55,488
- Really? That's nice.
- Rinna, stop.
704
00:25:55,521 --> 00:25:57,523
- That's great.
- We'll get to it.
705
00:25:57,557 --> 00:25:58,991
Like, hold on, girl. Hold on.
706
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:00,693
- Garcelle, I'll do
whatever I want.
707
00:26:00,727 --> 00:26:03,544
Don't you tell me to
do anything, okay?
708
00:26:03,545 --> 00:26:05,565
Thanks. Don't--
709
00:26:05,597 --> 00:26:07,328
- I can say anything
I want to say.
710
00:26:07,329 --> 00:26:08,338
- You go--
- So can I!
711
00:26:08,339 --> 00:26:10,436
- So can all of us!
712
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:11,904
- We all can!
- Okay.
713
00:26:11,938 --> 00:26:13,740
- Don't you tell
me to do a thing.
714
00:26:13,772 --> 00:26:15,909
- [scoffs]
715
00:26:15,942 --> 00:26:18,444
- Crystal, do you think
that Garcelle has a tendency
716
00:26:18,478 --> 00:26:20,145
to throw jabs and run away?
717
00:26:20,180 --> 00:26:23,489
- I'll just refer to my
dinner, like, when she says
718
00:26:23,490 --> 00:26:24,683
you don't say it in front,
719
00:26:24,718 --> 00:26:27,153
and then you made
that, like, jab at me.
720
00:26:27,186 --> 00:26:28,555
- What did I say about you?
721
00:26:28,587 --> 00:26:30,558
- That you don't--you
didn't know who I was.
722
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:32,578
- I've never heard of her. Ever.
723
00:26:32,579 --> 00:26:33,526
- How about this?
724
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:36,229
Before I met Crystal,
I didn't know Crystal.
725
00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:38,639
I knew Rob Minkoff.
726
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,632
- I'm glad you
brought up the dinner,
727
00:26:39,665 --> 00:26:41,968
but that wasn't even the
jab I was talking about.
728
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,538
You guys were all talking
about Sutton. You were there.
729
00:26:45,572 --> 00:26:47,729
You didn't say anything
in the moment, and then--
730
00:26:47,730 --> 00:26:49,976
- You don't know that.
- Let me finish, Garcelle!
731
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:51,243
- Oh!
732
00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:54,798
- This is the second
time you've cut me off!
733
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:54,980
I'm gonna make a point.
734
00:26:55,809 --> 00:26:56,849
- That's very loud.
- Make a point, Dorit.
735
00:26:56,883 --> 00:26:59,853
[tense music]
736
00:26:59,885 --> 00:27:02,454
♪ ♪
737
00:27:06,192 --> 00:27:08,528
- You guys were all talking
about Sutton. You were there.
738
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,130
You didn't say anything
in the moment, and then--
739
00:27:10,163 --> 00:27:11,830
- You don't know that.
- Let me finish, Garcelle!
740
00:27:11,865 --> 00:27:12,766
- Oh!
741
00:27:12,798 --> 00:27:15,300
- This is the second
time you've cut me off!
742
00:27:15,335 --> 00:27:16,869
I'm gonna make a point.
743
00:27:16,903 --> 00:27:18,203
- Make a point, Dorit.
744
00:27:18,238 --> 00:27:20,874
- Flash to your
confessional, and you said,
745
00:27:20,906 --> 00:27:24,510
"Why are they saying all
these things? I'm Team Sutton."
746
00:27:24,544 --> 00:27:26,645
- Yeah. She's
finally getting a voice.
747
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,682
- I think her voice
is very awkward.
748
00:27:28,714 --> 00:27:30,499
- Why are they saying
this in front of me?
749
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:34,538
They know I'm Team
Sutton. Like, come on.
750
00:27:34,539 --> 00:27:37,957
- Why not in that moment, say,
"Guys, I don't agree with this.
751
00:27:38,579 --> 00:27:39,325
"And, you guys, I'm
friends with Sutton.
752
00:27:39,358 --> 00:27:40,660
I don't appreciate this."
753
00:27:40,693 --> 00:27:41,927
- Why are you talking
754
00:27:41,961 --> 00:27:44,663
about something that
you weren't even there?
755
00:27:44,698 --> 00:27:46,865
- I want to move on
to Rinna and Garcelle.
756
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:52,739
But before I do, where do you
two stand, Dorit and Garcelle?
757
00:27:52,771 --> 00:27:53,839
- Well, the ball
is in your court.
758
00:27:53,873 --> 00:27:54,773
- Okay.
759
00:27:54,807 --> 00:27:56,308
- I would like to move
on. I thought we did.
760
00:27:56,343 --> 00:27:58,345
- I would like to
move on as well.
761
00:27:58,377 --> 00:28:00,279
Like, I don't dislike her.
762
00:28:00,313 --> 00:28:02,682
- Okay.
- At all.
763
00:28:02,715 --> 00:28:04,884
- "I don't dislike her at all."
- I mean--okay.
764
00:28:04,917 --> 00:28:06,190
- Great.
- I mean, no.
765
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:07,200
- That's really
convincing, Garcelle.
766
00:28:07,529 --> 00:28:08,721
- Sounds great.
- You know what I'm saying?
767
00:28:08,755 --> 00:28:09,888
I don't--
- Is that a double negative?
768
00:28:09,923 --> 00:28:11,758
- Yeah, I think
that's what it is.
769
00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:13,226
I don't have anything
against Dorit, honestly.
770
00:28:13,259 --> 00:28:14,594
- Okay. Okay.
771
00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:15,862
- I really don't.
772
00:28:15,894 --> 00:28:18,565
- So you two are
clean right now.
773
00:28:18,597 --> 00:28:20,299
I want to move on to...
774
00:28:20,333 --> 00:28:21,867
- Fish.
- Lisa Rinna.
775
00:28:21,901 --> 00:28:25,704
And Garcelle, you struggled
with the ups and downs
776
00:28:25,739 --> 00:28:29,420
of your 20-year
friendship with Lisa Rinna.
777
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:32,345
Do you think you've earned
back your friendship with Garcelle?
778
00:28:32,378 --> 00:28:35,480
- Well, I certainly did
everything that I could.
779
00:28:35,809 --> 00:28:38,509
You know, I think at this point
you'd have to ask Garcelle,
780
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:39,519
'cause I really tried.
781
00:28:39,849 --> 00:28:42,355
I think Garcelle has some
expectations from me.
782
00:28:42,388 --> 00:28:43,722
- She threw you
a birthday party.
783
00:28:43,757 --> 00:28:44,891
- Yeah.
784
00:28:44,923 --> 00:28:46,358
- And she brought you sauce.
- Yeah.
785
00:28:46,393 --> 00:28:48,228
- Did you take those
as her playing chess,
786
00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:51,730
or did you take them as,
"Wow, she's making an effort"?
787
00:28:51,765 --> 00:28:53,660
- That's a really good question.
788
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:54,834
If I'm gonna be really honest,
789
00:28:54,867 --> 00:28:59,719
I'm not sure how I
took them, honestly.
790
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,709
Those were lovely things
to do. I just don't trust.
791
00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:04,611
And when you don't trust--
792
00:29:04,644 --> 00:29:08,140
- Should she stop reaching
out, because you don't trust?
793
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,115
You know what I'm saying?
794
00:29:09,148 --> 00:29:10,717
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Like, should she stop that?
795
00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:12,179
- Yeah. I don't know
what to say, honestly.
796
00:29:12,180 --> 00:29:13,318
- 'Cause she's gonna
come to a point--
797
00:29:13,353 --> 00:29:14,788
- I've never--
798
00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:15,788
- I mean, let me speak
for you for one second.
799
00:29:15,821 --> 00:29:16,923
- You can speak. You can.
800
00:29:17,230 --> 00:29:17,923
- I think she's gonna come
to a point where she's like,
801
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,625
"Hey, I've really tried."
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
802
00:29:19,659 --> 00:29:20,492
- "She doesn't trust me."
- I tried.
803
00:29:20,527 --> 00:29:21,694
- I understand that.
- That's enough.
804
00:29:21,728 --> 00:29:22,528
- You know what I'm saying?
There's gonna be a point...
805
00:29:22,561 --> 00:29:23,328
- Your birthday
was very genuine.
806
00:29:23,363 --> 00:29:25,330
- Oh, I know that.
- The text thread
807
00:29:25,365 --> 00:29:26,432
amongst all of us...- I know tha
808
00:29:26,465 --> 00:29:27,834
- I think--
- Was super sweet.
809
00:29:27,866 --> 00:29:29,301
- I think if I could
just say, you know,
810
00:29:29,336 --> 00:29:32,271
I just feel like you
break the chain with me.
811
00:29:32,305 --> 00:29:33,707
For whatever reason,
812
00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:35,775
you don't want to
go a little bit further.
813
00:29:35,808 --> 00:29:38,944
And I--and I have to just
take that in now. I really do.
814
00:29:39,450 --> 00:29:40,246
- Okay. I'm sorry.
815
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:41,881
- Do you--do you
want to punish her
816
00:29:41,914 --> 00:29:43,490
for the way she treated you?
817
00:29:43,829 --> 00:29:44,284
- No, I'm done with that.
- Okay.
818
00:29:44,317 --> 00:29:45,719
- I mean, Denise can
fight her own battles.
819
00:29:45,751 --> 00:29:46,819
- Okay.
820
00:29:46,853 --> 00:29:48,755
- I mean, I'm really
done with that.
821
00:29:48,788 --> 00:29:52,125
- Okay. But to bring
that up at the final party--
822
00:29:52,157 --> 00:29:57,896
- I would love to see a reach
out to Denise at some point.
823
00:29:57,931 --> 00:30:01,734
- It's, like, we went for four
months, and you have to bring
824
00:30:01,768 --> 00:30:03,936
Denise up again. When
are you gonna let it go?
825
00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:05,137
- I have let it go.
- When?
826
00:30:05,171 --> 00:30:06,772
- Just now.
827
00:30:06,806 --> 00:30:08,307
- Okay, thank the Lord Jesus.
828
00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:09,776
- I don't care.
829
00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:10,910
- Thank the Lord
Jesus! Hallelujah!
830
00:30:10,943 --> 00:30:11,877
- I don't care.
831
00:30:11,911 --> 00:30:13,813
- I hope I never hear
that again from you.
832
00:30:13,846 --> 00:30:15,448
- You will not hear
it from me, girl.
833
00:30:15,481 --> 00:30:16,982
- Let me ask you a question.
834
00:30:17,170 --> 00:30:19,419
Garcelle, you expressed
your disappointment in Rinna
835
00:30:19,451 --> 00:30:22,220
for not standing up for
you throughout the season.
836
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:24,790
What were you expecting of her?
837
00:30:24,824 --> 00:30:26,459
Given that you went into saying,
838
00:30:26,492 --> 00:30:28,394
"Okay, we're on
pause, I'm leery..."
839
00:30:28,428 --> 00:30:29,863
- "I don't trust you."
840
00:30:29,895 --> 00:30:30,997
- "I don't know,
I don't trust you,"
841
00:30:31,309 --> 00:30:33,266
what did you expect of
her, that she didn't give you?
842
00:30:33,298 --> 00:30:36,368
- I didn't expect for her
to, like, stop everything
843
00:30:36,403 --> 00:30:39,471
and come and save me.
I don't need that. I felt like
844
00:30:39,506 --> 00:30:44,344
when we were at your lip
kit launch that--when Dorit
845
00:30:44,376 --> 00:30:48,480
and I had our incident, for
lack of a better word--and
846
00:30:48,809 --> 00:30:49,481
I thought maybe Rinna
would have been like,
847
00:30:49,516 --> 00:30:53,385
"Well" --something, anything.
848
00:30:53,420 --> 00:30:54,386
- But I agreed with Dorit.
- Anything.
849
00:30:54,421 --> 00:30:57,230
- You know? So I wouldn't
have had your side,
850
00:30:57,569 --> 00:30:59,192
because I thought what
Dorit was saying was correct.
851
00:30:59,224 --> 00:31:00,359
- Gotcha.
-
852
00:31:00,393 --> 00:31:02,362
I feel like the last
couple of months
853
00:31:02,394 --> 00:31:04,530
you've been making
a lot of jabs at me.
854
00:31:04,564 --> 00:31:06,532
What is going on?
855
00:31:06,566 --> 00:31:07,967
- You know, Sutton,
856
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,171
I'm curious your reaction
to this conversation.
857
00:31:11,203 --> 00:31:13,105
You know, I mean,
Garcelle's your--
858
00:31:13,138 --> 00:31:15,749
- Yeah, and I think--
We've talked about this.
859
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:20,212
I think one of the trust things
is Lisa not having my back too
860
00:31:20,246 --> 00:31:22,214
and her saying, you
know, "Lisa's your friend,
861
00:31:22,248 --> 00:31:25,848
and she's not
helping you out at all."
862
00:31:25,849 --> 00:31:27,854
- Listen, if I [bleep] up,
or I'd been mean to you,
863
00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:29,888
or if I'd done something,
I'd understand it."
864
00:31:29,923 --> 00:31:33,929
- You--someone
told me that you said
865
00:31:33,930 --> 00:31:35,994
that I should have never
brought race into this show,
866
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,232
that this show is
not that kind of show.
867
00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:41,901
And that really bothered me.
868
00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:43,435
- Well, if that were the case,
you should have come to me
869
00:31:43,470 --> 00:31:44,971
and asked me that,
because I did not say that.
870
00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:45,904
- Oh, please, there's
so many other things
871
00:31:45,939 --> 00:31:47,140
you guys don't come
to me and say directly.
872
00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:49,241
- Yeah, but that's a big one.
- That's a big one.
873
00:31:49,275 --> 00:31:50,809
- No, that is a big one.
- That's a big one, Garcelle.
874
00:31:50,844 --> 00:31:51,845
- And you know what?
875
00:31:51,877 --> 00:31:53,779
- Garcelle, I would never
say that, by the way.
876
00:31:53,813 --> 00:31:57,250
- I don't know that.
877
00:31:57,282 --> 00:31:59,919
- Garcelle, you have it out
for me, and I want to know why.
878
00:31:59,952 --> 00:32:01,253
- I don't have it
out for you, Rinna.
879
00:32:01,287 --> 00:32:02,821
- Why?
- No. But when you--
880
00:32:02,855 --> 00:32:03,890
- Why?
- When I heard that...
881
00:32:03,923 --> 00:32:05,579
- Why?
- That pissed me off.
882
00:32:05,910 --> 00:32:06,893
- Well then why didn't you
[bleep] come to me and say,
883
00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:09,328
"Rinna, what are you doing"?
884
00:32:15,868 --> 00:32:18,137
- Someone told me that you said
885
00:32:18,171 --> 00:32:20,940
that I should have never
brought race into this show,
886
00:32:20,973 --> 00:32:23,910
that this show is
not that kind of show.
887
00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:25,110
And that pissed me off.
888
00:32:25,111 --> 00:32:26,880
- Well then why didn't you
[bleep] come to me and say,
889
00:32:26,913 --> 00:32:28,213
"Rinna, what are you doing"?
890
00:32:28,248 --> 00:32:30,828
- So you're gonna blame
me for something that--
891
00:32:30,829 --> 00:32:31,284
- I'm not blaming you.
892
00:32:31,317 --> 00:32:32,451
- For being upset
about something.
893
00:32:32,484 --> 00:32:34,487
- I want to know why you
were so mean to me all season,
894
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,322
and you go, "I heard that,
895
00:32:36,355 --> 00:32:37,824
and that's why I
was mean to you."
896
00:32:37,856 --> 00:32:39,358
- The race thing
really bothered me.
897
00:32:39,392 --> 00:32:40,826
- I bet.
- But I never said it!
898
00:32:40,859 --> 00:32:41,994
So, where'd you get it?
899
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:43,430
- I'm not saying
a word about that.
900
00:32:43,462 --> 00:32:44,530
- You know, it's
pretty unbelievable--
901
00:32:44,564 --> 00:32:46,132
- But I was sent some texts.
- That's really awful.
902
00:32:46,165 --> 00:32:47,567
- You guys, that's
pretty unbelievable
903
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:48,567
that you just did that.
904
00:32:48,601 --> 00:32:50,102
- Okay, so not you're
gonna turn it around...
905
00:32:50,103 --> 00:32:51,103
- I'm not turning
it around, honey.
906
00:32:51,104 --> 00:32:52,471
- And use it, when I was
the one that was hurt.
907
00:32:52,505 --> 00:32:53,807
- You turned it around.
908
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:54,941
- No, I didn't.
- You just did this.
909
00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:55,875
- No, I didn't.
- Yes, you did.
910
00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:56,809
- No, I didn't. Why
is this rattling you?
911
00:32:56,843 --> 00:32:57,876
- You know why?
- Why is it rattling you?
912
00:32:57,911 --> 00:33:00,212
- Because you were
[bleep]. You were so [bleep]
913
00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:02,480
To me all season, and
you're not being honest why.
914
00:33:02,819 --> 00:33:04,416
That's not why you were
[bleep] to me. Why were you--
915
00:33:04,451 --> 00:33:06,519
- Why was I [bleep] to you?
- You tell me. Why?
916
00:33:06,859 --> 00:33:07,529
- Because I don't trust
you. I didn't trust you.
917
00:33:07,530 --> 00:33:08,788
- Okay, there we go!
Then let's go there!
918
00:33:08,821 --> 00:33:10,558
- I've been saying that!
919
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:10,923
- But here's the thing, why
didn't you just say to me,
920
00:33:10,957 --> 00:33:12,858
"Lisa, I don't want
to be your friend.
921
00:33:12,892 --> 00:33:14,527
I don't trust you"?
Why did you say--
922
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,961
- I've that to you.
923
00:33:16,619 --> 00:33:17,564
- No, but you say,
"I want to move on.
924
00:33:17,596 --> 00:33:18,597
Let's move on." And by the way--
925
00:33:18,631 --> 00:33:20,266
- I said I'm open to moving on.
926
00:33:20,299 --> 00:33:22,680
- But you said--
- I said I'm open to moving on.
927
00:33:22,102 --> 00:33:23,970
- Okay. After the "Watch
What Happens Live" moment
928
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:26,338
when you basically
wanted to say,
929
00:33:26,373 --> 00:33:28,875
"I want--we want Lisa Rinna
fired so Denise can come back."
930
00:33:28,907 --> 00:33:30,242
- No, I didn't say that.
931
00:33:30,276 --> 00:33:31,877
- Are you in touch with
Denise at all these days?
932
00:33:31,911 --> 00:33:33,112
- I am.
- You are?
933
00:33:33,113 --> 00:33:34,247
- I am.
- And--
934
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:35,515
- I think she wants
to come back.
935
00:33:35,548 --> 00:33:37,450
- Oh, really?
936
00:33:37,483 --> 00:33:39,519
- Somebody's gotta go, though.
937
00:33:39,551 --> 00:33:41,820
- Oh!
938
00:33:41,855 --> 00:33:45,557
Are her initials LR?
- Oh! I did not say--
939
00:33:45,592 --> 00:33:46,960
- What you said was--
940
00:33:46,992 --> 00:33:47,760
- I said--I know
exactly what I said.
941
00:33:47,794 --> 00:33:49,295
- You said Denise
would come back...
942
00:33:49,328 --> 00:33:50,462
- Right.
- If someone else left.
943
00:33:50,497 --> 00:33:52,979
- Yes.
944
00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:53,465
- And were you
referring to Lisa Rinna?
945
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,300
- I was referring to Lisa Rinna,
946
00:33:55,335 --> 00:33:57,103
but you said LR, Andy Cohen.
947
00:33:57,136 --> 00:33:58,471
- I said, "Are her initials LR?"
948
00:33:58,505 --> 00:33:59,506
- You did.
949
00:33:59,538 --> 00:34:01,740
- And I figured--yes.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
950
00:34:01,106 --> 00:34:02,107
- But you were referring to her.
951
00:34:02,142 --> 00:34:03,242
- Yeah.
- Okay.
952
00:34:03,276 --> 00:34:04,344
- So let me ask you a question.
953
00:34:04,376 --> 00:34:05,412
If you don't trust me, why
did you reach out to me
954
00:34:05,444 --> 00:34:08,479
after that and say, "Let's
make things better"?
955
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,829
- No, you reached
out to me and said...
956
00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:11,583
- And said that hurt my--
- I threatened your job.
957
00:34:11,617 --> 00:34:12,585
- I said and it
hurt my feelings.
958
00:34:12,619 --> 00:34:13,952
- You said a lot of things.
959
00:34:14,539 --> 00:34:15,121
- Yeah.
- You said a lot of things.
960
00:34:15,155 --> 00:34:16,322
- Because--and they're all true.
961
00:34:16,356 --> 00:34:18,590
- And then when I clarified
it--and when I clarified it,
962
00:34:18,625 --> 00:34:20,126
you were like,
963
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,618
"Oh, I guess I was
just in my feelings."
964
00:34:22,619 --> 00:34:23,896
- I was.
- Okay.
965
00:34:23,929 --> 00:34:26,132
- But you know what?
What you just did
966
00:34:26,166 --> 00:34:28,400
and what you just threw
down, the insinuation...
967
00:34:28,434 --> 00:34:29,635
- Yeah.
968
00:34:29,668 --> 00:34:31,103
- It shows exactly who you are.
969
00:34:31,137 --> 00:34:34,105
- So you want to tell me
that every single one of you
970
00:34:34,106 --> 00:34:36,275
were truly okay--the fact
that all of a sudden now
971
00:34:36,309 --> 00:34:38,311
we're talking about different
things that you never--
972
00:34:38,344 --> 00:34:39,278
- I'm okay with it.
973
00:34:39,311 --> 00:34:40,947
- That you never had
to talk about before.
974
00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:42,349
- It is what it is.
- Wait, but you do add
975
00:34:42,382 --> 00:34:45,150
a completely different
perspective, you know.
976
00:34:45,184 --> 00:34:47,954
- And that's the real
world. That's why it's great.
977
00:34:47,987 --> 00:34:49,155
- I'm sorry.
- This is real life.
978
00:34:49,188 --> 00:34:50,623
- Well, I just don't understand
why you had to say that,
979
00:34:50,657 --> 00:34:52,291
because it's not true.
980
00:34:52,324 --> 00:34:53,193
- She would have loved
if you'd come to her, babe.
981
00:34:53,226 --> 00:34:54,626
- Okay, well then
say it's not true...
982
00:34:54,661 --> 00:34:56,959
- It's not true!
- And drop it.
983
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:56,963
- But she never had
a chance before today.
984
00:34:56,996 --> 00:34:58,164
- Then say it's not
true and drop--okay,
985
00:34:58,197 --> 00:34:59,132
well, I'm just telling her now.
986
00:34:59,164 --> 00:35:00,300
- And you know what?
- She can say it now.
987
00:35:00,333 --> 00:35:04,170
- I'd like an apology for
you insinuating that to me.
988
00:35:04,204 --> 00:35:06,139
Because Garcelle, I
would never say that.
989
00:35:06,172 --> 00:35:08,507
I was happy that you
came on the show.
990
00:35:08,541 --> 00:35:10,677
I like you. Why would
you insinuate that?
991
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:11,945
- I don't know.
992
00:35:12,449 --> 00:35:14,380
- Unless you asked me
yourself, "Lisa, did you say that?"
993
00:35:14,414 --> 00:35:17,117
Or, "Lisa, do you feel
that?" And I'd answer it.
994
00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:18,451
- Would you really tell me
995
00:35:18,485 --> 00:35:20,552
I wish you hadn't brought
up race on the show?
996
00:35:20,586 --> 00:35:22,655
Would you have actually
said that to my face?
997
00:35:22,688 --> 00:35:25,909
- Yeah, I would have.
- Yeah. This one? Yeah.
998
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:29,728
- Look who you're talking to.
- I guess as I wrap this out
999
00:35:29,762 --> 00:35:35,434
I do wonder--I don't know
where you two go from here.
1000
00:35:35,467 --> 00:35:37,202
- I don't know.
- Why can't we move on?
1001
00:35:37,237 --> 00:35:38,972
- I don't know.
- You--
1002
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,206
- Do you want to move on?
1003
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,208
- I've said that
the entire season!
1004
00:35:42,242 --> 00:35:44,476
- What would you like to see
me do that would look like--
1005
00:35:44,510 --> 00:35:46,179
- Just be the
Garcelle I knew before.
1006
00:35:46,211 --> 00:35:47,347
You know, I gotta
tell you one thing--
1007
00:35:47,380 --> 00:35:48,648
- You just be the
Lisa I know before.
1008
00:35:48,681 --> 00:35:50,828
- I'd like to be.
1009
00:35:50,829 --> 00:35:51,217
- What happened to
the Lisa I knew before.
1010
00:35:51,251 --> 00:35:53,519
- I'd like to tell you.
- You were warm. You were fun.
1011
00:35:53,552 --> 00:35:55,221
- Am I not warm?
- You were supportive.
1012
00:35:55,255 --> 00:35:56,322
- Am I not fun?
- Yes are.
1013
00:35:56,356 --> 00:35:58,557
- Am I not supportive?
- You are, but you're--look,
1014
00:35:58,590 --> 00:36:00,126
she's gonna call
you on everything.
1015
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:02,394
That's who she is. I mean--
1016
00:36:02,429 --> 00:36:03,596
- I mean, Harry's been watching,
1017
00:36:03,630 --> 00:36:05,664
and he said to me--he goes,
"What happened to Garcelle?"
1018
00:36:05,699 --> 00:36:07,233
- Oh, stop.
1019
00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:10,170
- He said, "She looks
so unhappy. Is she okay?"
1020
00:36:10,202 --> 00:36:11,204
- Oh, stop.
1021
00:36:11,237 --> 00:36:13,373
- I'm not kidding.
- Do I look unhappy?
1022
00:36:13,405 --> 00:36:15,240
- I don't see you
look miserable,
1023
00:36:15,275 --> 00:36:17,677
but I feel like you check out.
1024
00:36:17,710 --> 00:36:21,468
- I check out? Honey, I show up.
1025
00:36:21,469 --> 00:36:22,215
- So do I!
- I show up.
1026
00:36:22,248 --> 00:36:23,449
I'm not saying
you don't show up.
1027
00:36:23,483 --> 00:36:24,583
- I [bleep] show up.
1028
00:36:24,617 --> 00:36:25,885
- But why do you
hold it with me?
1029
00:36:25,918 --> 00:36:28,387
You don't hold it with Kyle.
You don't hold it with Dorit.
1030
00:36:28,420 --> 00:36:29,621
- I don't know.
- Why do you hold it with me?
1031
00:36:29,655 --> 00:36:31,123
- I don't know.
1032
00:36:31,157 --> 00:36:32,458
- Maybe because you've
known her the longest.
1033
00:36:32,492 --> 00:36:34,260
- Maybe. Maybe my
expectations are higher.
1034
00:36:34,293 --> 00:36:35,594
- Uh-huh.
1035
00:36:35,628 --> 00:36:37,197
- Maybe my
experiences are higher.
1036
00:36:37,230 --> 00:36:39,132
- Do you think that there
would be any way--'cause
1037
00:36:39,164 --> 00:36:40,132
I would love to move on,
1038
00:36:40,166 --> 00:36:42,168
because when you and
I are good, we're great.
1039
00:36:42,202 --> 00:36:43,369
- So good.
- We're so funny.
1040
00:36:43,402 --> 00:36:45,170
- So good.
- I love you so much.
1041
00:36:45,204 --> 00:36:47,729
I really do. I know it
doesn't seem like I do.
1042
00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:48,273
- I'm sorry.
- No, it doesn't.
1043
00:36:48,307 --> 00:36:49,742
- But I get really [bleep]
mad at you, though!
1044
00:36:49,775 --> 00:36:50,677
I do a little.
1045
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:52,411
- You can be mad at
you. I'm mad at you!
1046
00:36:52,445 --> 00:36:53,646
- Okay. Okay, so what do we do?
1047
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,548
- Well, it seems like
one of the ways...
1048
00:36:56,583 --> 00:36:59,152
to rebuilt trust is just time.
1049
00:36:59,184 --> 00:37:00,420
- Right.
- You know, and so--
1050
00:37:00,452 --> 00:37:01,420
- What have I said? Yes!
1051
00:37:01,454 --> 00:37:04,257
- This has now been a
year where you've been...
1052
00:37:04,289 --> 00:37:05,458
- In action.
- Rebuilding.
1053
00:37:05,492 --> 00:37:08,128
- Yeah.
- And so--
1054
00:37:08,161 --> 00:37:11,498
- Garcelle, could we please--
- I need a roller.
1055
00:37:11,530 --> 00:37:12,632
- Oh, yeah, I'll let
you borrow mine.
1056
00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:14,300
- Garcelle, let me come
sit next to you for a second.
1057
00:37:14,333 --> 00:37:15,534
I want--
- Oh, gosh.
1058
00:37:15,568 --> 00:37:17,836
- I really, really--no,
I'm serious.
1059
00:37:17,871 --> 00:37:19,389
I'm done with this.
1060
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,306
- I want to move on with you.
1061
00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:23,434
I know you don't
[bleep] trust me.
1062
00:37:23,435 --> 00:37:25,612
I know you don't [bleep] like
me. But give me a chance.
1063
00:37:25,644 --> 00:37:30,115
- Just give me a chance.
1064
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:31,317
- You got it.
- There.
1065
00:37:31,351 --> 00:37:32,351
- Wow!
- Just give me a chance!
1066
00:37:32,385 --> 00:37:34,153
- But do you mean it?
Garcelle, do you mean it?
1067
00:37:34,186 --> 00:37:35,288
- What am I gonna
do? She's right here!
1068
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,556
No, I'm serious.
1069
00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:37,724
- Dorit, don't push it.
1070
00:37:37,757 --> 00:37:39,224
- I'm not talking
to you right now.
1071
00:37:39,259 --> 00:37:41,327
- Shut up.
- Do you mean it?
1072
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,195
- We've got to move on.
- Let's move on.
1073
00:37:43,228 --> 00:37:44,697
- Life is too [bleep] short.
1074
00:37:44,731 --> 00:37:46,561
- Agree.
- Stop this bull[bleep].
1075
00:37:46,562 --> 00:37:49,101
- And mean it.
- And let's move on!
1076
00:37:49,135 --> 00:37:51,570
- Garcelle, did
you like the sauce?
1077
00:37:51,603 --> 00:37:53,739
- The sauce was great,
which is why I loved it
1078
00:37:53,773 --> 00:37:55,574
so much that she brought it up.
1079
00:37:55,608 --> 00:37:57,110
- Lookit, I'm gonna
grab her hard
1080
00:37:57,143 --> 00:37:59,278
and say you're not
going anywhere.
1081
00:37:59,311 --> 00:38:01,347
Now, you stop this, and
let's move on, God damn it!
1082
00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:02,715
- Let's move on!
- Aww.
1083
00:38:02,748 --> 00:38:04,351
- I like you too much...
- Me too.
1084
00:38:04,384 --> 00:38:05,684
- To do this anymore.
1085
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,353
If I didn't like you,
I'd say, "[bleep] you,
1086
00:38:07,387 --> 00:38:08,387
go away." [bleep],
you know I would.
1087
00:38:08,420 --> 00:38:09,889
- Yeah, I know you do.
- Okay, can we be done?
1088
00:38:09,922 --> 00:38:11,358
- Are we done?
- Yeah.
1089
00:38:11,391 --> 00:38:12,492
- We're not doing it anymore.
1090
00:38:12,525 --> 00:38:13,726
- Can we go on commercial break?
1091
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,893
- Okay.
- Oh, my God.
1092
00:38:14,927 --> 00:38:16,619
- We're gonna take a break.
1093
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,898
This is--this is positive.
We're ending on positivity.
1094
00:38:18,931 --> 00:38:20,867
- Oh, my gosh!
- We're gonna be right back.
1095
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:22,735
- Oh, come on now.
Lisa, no, not the legs.
1096
00:38:22,768 --> 00:38:24,838
- Watch out; you're gonna
kick Sutton in the face.
1097
00:38:24,871 --> 00:38:27,172
- Oh, gosh!
- Coming up next...
1098
00:38:27,206 --> 00:38:30,643
- I've said to Tom, "If you
are in love with someone else,
1099
00:38:30,677 --> 00:38:33,579
divorce me and go be with her."
1100
00:38:33,612 --> 00:38:35,447
- He said?
1101
00:38:41,721 --> 00:38:43,123
- Welcome back to the
1102
00:38:43,155 --> 00:38:44,623
"Real Housewives of
Beverly Hills" reunion.
1103
00:38:44,657 --> 00:38:47,827
We are joined by the
one and only Kathy Hilton.
1104
00:38:47,860 --> 00:38:50,262
- Yeah!
- Ladies and gentlemen,
1105
00:38:50,295 --> 00:38:51,530
welcome to the stage.
1106
00:38:51,563 --> 00:38:53,666
- And I have a
few notes in case,
1107
00:38:53,699 --> 00:38:55,467
'cause I wanted to
address a few things.
1108
00:38:55,501 --> 00:38:56,635
- We call these receipts, Kathy.
1109
00:38:56,670 --> 00:38:58,438
- Well, I see Garcelle's name.
1110
00:38:58,471 --> 00:39:02,275
- Bring it, Kathy.
Bring it, bitch.
1111
00:39:02,307 --> 00:39:08,648
- Kathy, do you recognize
where we're sitting tonight?
1112
00:39:08,681 --> 00:39:10,158
- I don't know.
1113
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:12,284
- What does this
look like to you?
1114
00:39:12,318 --> 00:39:14,286
- Oh. My house?
- Yes!
1115
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,289
[together] Yay!
1116
00:39:17,322 --> 00:39:19,291
- That's so--it's beautiful.
1117
00:39:19,324 --> 00:39:21,594
- How does it feel to be here?
- I can't believe I'm here.
1118
00:39:21,628 --> 00:39:22,929
I really don't
feel like it's real.
1119
00:39:23,289 --> 00:39:24,797
- I can't believe you're here
either to be honest with you.
1120
00:39:24,831 --> 00:39:25,898
- Right?
1121
00:39:25,931 --> 00:39:27,800
- Well, you know,
Kathy, after making
1122
00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:30,836
the occasional appearance
on the show over the years...
1123
00:39:30,869 --> 00:39:32,605
- Mm-hmm. Did you
order his boutonniere?
1124
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:34,239
- What's a boutonniere?
- What is a boutonniere?
1125
00:39:34,273 --> 00:39:35,809
- You're joking.
- You're joking.
1126
00:39:35,842 --> 00:39:37,309
- Is that you're wearing.
1127
00:39:37,344 --> 00:39:39,878
- What do you mean?
- I don't know.
1128
00:39:39,913 --> 00:39:42,315
- Thank God I was doing
my magic act, because--
1129
00:39:42,349 --> 00:39:43,315
- You do magic now?
1130
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:45,918
- Well, I did magic
earlier. Where were you?
1131
00:39:45,952 --> 00:39:47,487
- Oh, my God.
1132
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:53,226
- Why did you decide to join
this gang now 11 years in?
1133
00:39:53,259 --> 00:39:56,663
- I pushed her.
- I--yeah.
1134
00:39:56,695 --> 00:39:59,565
- Kyle, Grace from
Roswell, Georgia, wonders,
1135
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:01,668
"How exactly did
you break your nose?
1136
00:40:01,701 --> 00:40:03,335
"Are you sure it
wasn't an excuse
1137
00:40:03,369 --> 00:40:05,338
to get another nose job?"
1138
00:40:05,371 --> 00:40:06,438
- No, it was not an
excuse, but I was happy
1139
00:40:06,472 --> 00:40:10,342
that it was broken, so I
could get it done again.
1140
00:40:10,376 --> 00:40:11,677
- Were you unhappy
with it before?
1141
00:40:11,710 --> 00:40:12,679
- Yeah, I wasn't thrilled.
1142
00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:15,782
But I actually did break
it shooting "Halloween."
1143
00:40:15,815 --> 00:40:18,351
So I thought, okay, well, fine,
I'll fix the bone that's broken
1144
00:40:18,385 --> 00:40:19,952
and make it a little
cuter while I'm at it.
1145
00:40:19,985 --> 00:40:22,355
- So I heard you had
an interesting encounter
1146
00:40:22,389 --> 00:40:25,358
on your way to the
show this morning.
1147
00:40:25,391 --> 00:40:27,269
- Yeah, you could
say that again.
1148
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:31,297
Car is here.
1149
00:40:31,331 --> 00:40:33,967
I love you guys.
1150
00:40:38,905 --> 00:40:42,275
[eerie music]
1151
00:40:42,307 --> 00:40:43,943
Ahh!
1152
00:40:43,976 --> 00:40:45,945
♪ ♪
1153
00:40:45,978 --> 00:40:51,717
- Kathy, did you do that?
- Did you--did you do that?
1154
00:40:51,751 --> 00:40:53,385
Oh, my God, that's amazing.
1155
00:40:53,420 --> 00:40:55,655
- No! That's good!
1156
00:40:55,688 --> 00:40:56,856
- Speaking of "Halloween Kills,"
1157
00:40:56,889 --> 00:40:59,726
what was it like
stepping back into a role
1158
00:40:59,759 --> 00:41:01,561
that you first played
40 years ago?
1159
00:41:01,594 --> 00:41:02,561
- It was even more than that.
1160
00:41:02,594 --> 00:41:06,498
But it's been unbelievable
reprising this role
1161
00:41:06,532 --> 00:41:08,400
all these years later,
1162
00:41:08,434 --> 00:41:10,603
working with Jamie
Lee Curtis again.
1163
00:41:10,637 --> 00:41:13,505
And just, it's been amazing
just to be part of this film
1164
00:41:13,539 --> 00:41:14,907
that's such a,
you know, cult film.
1165
00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:16,876
- It means so much
to so many people.
1166
00:41:16,909 --> 00:41:19,545
- So much. I mean,
the "Halloween" fans
1167
00:41:19,579 --> 00:41:21,914
are like nothing
I have ever seen.
1168
00:41:21,947 --> 00:41:23,882
It's gonna be great, and
it comes out October 15th.
1169
00:41:23,916 --> 00:41:25,116
- Wow.
- Yay!
1170
00:41:25,117 --> 00:41:27,286
- It's going to be in theaters,
so you guys can go see it
1171
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,789
and see what happens and
see how I broke my nose.
1172
00:41:30,824 --> 00:41:32,391
- It gets bigger
every year anyway.
1173
00:41:32,425 --> 00:41:33,793
- Exactly. Kathy
likes to tell me
1174
00:41:33,827 --> 00:41:35,295
all the time, "You know,
your ears and your nose
1175
00:41:35,327 --> 00:41:36,628
are gonna grow until you die."
1176
00:41:36,663 --> 00:41:37,664
I'm like, thanks
for the reminder.
1177
00:41:37,697 --> 00:41:40,300
[laughter]
1178
00:41:40,333 --> 00:41:42,869
- Okay, switching gears
to something serious.
1179
00:41:42,902 --> 00:41:45,838
Erika, I have a lot of
questions about your marriage.
1180
00:41:45,871 --> 00:41:47,105
I remember when
your book came out.
1181
00:41:47,106 --> 00:41:48,675
- Yeah.
1182
00:41:48,708 --> 00:41:49,775
- And I said to you, "What
does Tom think of the book?"
1183
00:41:49,809 --> 00:41:50,876
- And I said he hadn't read it.
1184
00:41:50,909 --> 00:41:52,411
- And you said
he hasn't read it.
1185
00:41:52,445 --> 00:41:53,346
- That's right.
1186
00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:55,581
- And I thought that
was so [bleep] weird.
1187
00:41:55,614 --> 00:41:59,885
And I asked you about it,
and you were so defensive.
1188
00:41:59,918 --> 00:42:01,454
What does Tom think?
1189
00:42:01,487 --> 00:42:03,422
- He hasn't read it
either. No one's read it.
1190
00:42:03,456 --> 00:42:04,958
No one's read it in my family.
1191
00:42:05,579 --> 00:42:07,960
- I think that's weird.
- Yeah. What's weird about it?
1192
00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:10,463
- I mean, you speak about
him so much in the book.
1193
00:42:10,496 --> 00:42:12,364
- Yeah, and I speak
about him very kindly.
1194
00:42:12,398 --> 00:42:13,967
I mean, he sounds great.
1195
00:42:14,670 --> 00:42:15,969
Look, Kyle's gonna
defend Mauricio.
1196
00:42:16,690 --> 00:42:17,469
She's gonna defend Rick.
1197
00:42:17,503 --> 00:42:20,440
You know what I'm saying?
This is what we do as women.
1198
00:42:20,472 --> 00:42:21,675
- And then last year
1199
00:42:21,708 --> 00:42:24,878
when you said he hadn't come
to Chicago, I was blown away.
1200
00:42:24,911 --> 00:42:26,780
- That was big. Yeah.
- So was I.
1201
00:42:26,813 --> 00:42:29,148
- What did Tom think, Erika?
1202
00:42:29,181 --> 00:42:30,983
- Well, you know, Tom wasn't
able to come to the show.
1203
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,753
We were waiting until
the--yeah, Tom did not make it.
1204
00:42:33,786 --> 00:42:36,856
He was gonna come the last
week, and COVID happened.
1205
00:42:36,889 --> 00:42:40,360
So he never saw the show.
1206
00:42:40,393 --> 00:42:41,860
I'm not giving
him a pass for that,
1207
00:42:41,894 --> 00:42:43,996
because I know
that he was in D.C.
1208
00:42:44,969 --> 00:42:47,500
and never bothered to
come to New York City.
1209
00:42:47,534 --> 00:42:49,402
And I found that out later.
1210
00:42:49,436 --> 00:42:52,838
- Why not leave him sooner
if he was cheating on you?
1211
00:42:52,871 --> 00:42:57,777
- The cheating is a part of it.
There's so much more there.
1212
00:42:57,811 --> 00:43:00,146
And I've said to Tom,
"If you are in love
1213
00:43:00,179 --> 00:43:04,483
with someone else, divorce
me and go be with her."
1214
00:43:04,516 --> 00:43:06,885
- He said?
- Nothing.
1215
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,788
- Nothing.
- Zero.
1216
00:43:08,822 --> 00:43:10,523
- Were you faithful to him?
1217
00:43:10,556 --> 00:43:13,525
[tense music]
1218
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:16,829
♪ ♪
1219
00:43:16,862 --> 00:43:20,199
Next week, the
reunion continues.
1220
00:43:20,233 --> 00:43:21,934
You brought me sauce?
Are you kidding me?
1221
00:43:21,967 --> 00:43:23,135
- This is Harry Hamlin's sauce
1222
00:43:23,168 --> 00:43:25,538
that he made before
he went to Canada.
1223
00:43:25,572 --> 00:43:28,875
- Make sure when you eat it
you send a text the next day.
1224
00:43:28,907 --> 00:43:30,876
- I was about to say.
- [laughs]
1225
00:43:30,909 --> 00:43:32,545
- Snuggle me, [inaudible].
1226
00:43:32,579 --> 00:43:33,947
[laughter]
1227
00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:35,481
- She had sent a
picture of her tits.
1228
00:43:35,514 --> 00:43:37,550
And he has a flip phone,
you know, so I responded,
1229
00:43:37,583 --> 00:43:40,420
"Nice tits, stupid bitch."
1230
00:43:40,452 --> 00:43:41,987
- You pretended to be my friend.
1231
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,757
And you know
what that is? Lying.
1232
00:43:43,789 --> 00:43:46,559
- No, that's actually
just playing your ass.
1233
00:43:46,592 --> 00:43:47,793
I loved my husband.
1234
00:43:47,827 --> 00:43:49,762
Now he's allegedly
defrauding widows,
1235
00:43:49,795 --> 00:43:51,550
orphans, and burn victims.
1236
00:43:51,551 --> 00:43:53,465
How the [bleep]
do you think I feel?
1237
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:56,135
- Why are you not
saying it to the victims?
1238
00:43:56,168 --> 00:43:58,505
- Why would you leave with me
1239
00:43:58,538 --> 00:44:03,510
millions of dollars in
lawsuits pointed at me?
1240
00:44:03,543 --> 00:44:05,577
- It's not doing any
favors with the Instagram.
1241
00:44:05,612 --> 00:44:07,579
- It's feeding the fire.
1242
00:44:07,614 --> 00:44:10,849
- It became almost preposterous.
1243
00:44:10,884 --> 00:44:13,920
- Did any of you hear that Tom
was having money problems?
1244
00:44:13,952 --> 00:44:15,722
- Andy knows as much as I do.
1245
00:44:15,755 --> 00:44:18,590
- It's only in Beverly Hills
that everybody's so precious.
1246
00:44:18,625 --> 00:44:20,599
[dramatic music]