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The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
You know I'm going away.
You're going to be good to stay with Dad?
We'll feel it out.
I talked to Kyle when you guys were in the Hamptons.
She was just like, "I'm worried about Dorit.
Her moods are-are erratic."
In my 40 years of life,
I have never left a dinner party crying.
I thought you ran away from a cult.
We want to know about the cult.
The longer I was there, the more controlling things got.
This is what this group needs to hear about you.
I am very excited
about taking another trip.
And Italy is the place to be.
We're going to travel in three groups to Italy.
The first group is me, Kyle, Amanda, Sutton, and Natalie.
Ah, Look at this. Look at how gorgeous.
Wow. This is stunning.
Here, there will be Amanda and Sutton.
Isn't it cute? [tense music]
This trip, I want to help Amanda be understood,
and be heard, and be truthful.
Dorit can be hard to get your point across to her.
But I think if she wanted to get to know me.
- Mm-hmm? - There would be space
for me to speak.
In this town, stars come and go,
but diamonds last forever.
I'd die for fashion,
but now I'm living for me.
I turn ambition into an art form,
and I am the masterpiece.
I might live on a main road,
but I definitely bring main character energy.
I didn't marry into money.
I manifested it.
Survival isn't my story.
It's my superpower.
I'm unfiltered, unbothered,
[rhythmic music]
Yes, a massage!
I'm gonna take a shower
because I've been traveling since yesterday.
[knocking on door] Hi, Natalie!
Your luggages are here, ready.
Thank you so much.
We're tracking my luggage.
They don't even know where it is.
Here.
What bags are here? All of them?
Even my little carry-on brown one?
Yes.
What about my little Louis Vuitton carry-on?
I don't know. If I see it, I will let you know.
This is what happens when I don't keep my eyes on my bags.
[upbeat music]
Grazie, grazie.
Oh my god, you guys, I haven't been here in so long.
I mean, to be able to be in a villa,
in Florence, to be able to have this experience.
I know, I've only ever stayed in hotels.
[speaking Italian]
You know, it's been so long
since I've been able to speak Italian.
[speaking in Italian]
[energetic music]
This is stunning and we haven't even gotten inside.
Ladies, welcome to Tuscany and Bibbiani. How are you?
Welcome to Bibbiani!
Some of the ladies have already arrived.
- Oh, yeah? - Yeah, of course.
I'm obsessed.
Wow!
Look at the main corridor.
Ugh, I'm home.
Oh, my God.
- Since, since-- - Oh, my God!
Look how beautiful this is.
You guys.
This is like movie sh--.
Like, sh-- you see in movies.
Like not real life.
This is the suite master, the Medici.
Ooh, the Medici?
This is stunning.
No offense to Sedona or Sutton,
but Boz should be nominated for president.
It literally feels out of, like, a romance film.
Sophia Loren should be, like, you know, in one of these rooms
sitting in some beautiful gown.
Welcome to your room. Come here, Dorit.
You have your personal, private sauna.
- Oh, my God! - [Stefano laughing]
[curious music] [fake crying]
[speaking in Italian]
I've never seen anybody fall on the floor for a sauna,
but okay...
[speaking in Italian]
This is beautiful. Ah! Very special.
I don't want to leave here.
When are we leaving? We're not leaving.
No, no, we live in Italy now.
[upbeat music]
How are you?
- Welcome to Florence. - Thank you so much.
Sutton says the house is beautiful.
I have big plans.
I want to do a photograph in the pool.
When I travel, I like to do, like, the thirst trap.
I feel like if I'm underwater, it'll look very elegant.
Like take your clothes off?
Yes, yes, naked.
[laughing] Beautiful.
Every time I go on vacation,
I instantly, I think I want to do a naked thirst trap photo.
I don't know what it is.
Perhaps it's the wonderful summer sun.
I did it last year in St. Lucia.
[laughing]: Thirst trap.
Why is everybody doing these thirst things?
My body has lots of wibbly wobbly parts.
So I always try to be mostly submerged in water.
[laughing]
Water is very forgiving.
It's really charming.
My goodness, this is amazing. Gorgeous.
Look at these hedges.
Oh, look, there's the staff.
Oh my God, it's Downtown Abbey.
Maybe some of these guys can join me
in my naked thirst trap moment.
- Oh, wow, it's beautiful. - So, welcome to Villa Bibbiani.
I probably shouldn't say that,
'cause I have a boyfriend. [clearing throat]
This is a fancy house. It has an elevator.
- Up we go. - All right.
Whee!
Do you have a fan for me?
- A fan? - I like the sound.
Oh, really? Yeah, sure. [chuckling]
This is your room.
Oh, that's such a nice room, Kathy.
Let me introduce you to the Suite del Prete.
Oh, this is so pretty, I love it.
Are you prepared for the surprise?
Yes, I am.
- Look at that beautiful window. - Okay.
Oh, wow!
This is a 1700 chapel that has been blessed
by Pope Clement XIII.
[angelic music]
It's so gorgeous!
Oh, so pretty.
Hello! [echoing]
I know there's ghosts.
- I can feel them. - Okay.
I did bring a little ghost repellent, though,
so I think I'm good.
[upbeat music]
Beyond. She was talking to the neighbors.
Already?
She was accosting this older couple with her Italian.
[phone ringing]
- Hi, honey. - Hi, my love.
How are you doing? Are you dressed or no?
I'm just about to.
I just got my luggage.
I'm just going to throw something on.
I was talking to my kids earlier.
Um, they seem to be doing great.
Hi, baby.
Mom, I'm in a chess game right now.
I just got here. I'm unpacking,
but my clothes don't fit in my closet, of course.
Are you at Dad's?
Does Sky want to talk to me?
Not particularly.
Okay. I love you.
Alright baby doll, basically, Boz said just get glammed up
and we're just going to chill and have,
like, a nice night here, you know?
Go do your thing, go get dressed
and then we'll go down and have a drink.
I need a drink, do you?
Yeah, big time. Big time.
Tonight, because it's my first night in Italy,
I wanted to look very Italian,
so I'm going to wear this feathery hat
because nothing says, "I'm Italian,"
than a lot of multicolored feathers.
Johnny got braids to put the back of my hair.
Oh, I love it.
This is hair I paid a lot of money for.
- Are we the first? - I guess so.
Okay, I don't think anyone's down here.
You look pretty. Hey, thank you.
How was getting ready after that flight?
Good, actually.
Could I have still water?
I'm feeling not hydrated from the flight.
- Hello. Oh, good! - Hello.
Girl, you pulled it together.
Well, this is what I packed in my carry-on.
Well, how are you feeling? Are you feeling okay?
I feel good.
I'm clean, I have on clean clothes.
Same.
Um, what else can I say?
Wait, did they give any update on your bag?
Oh, yes. What's the update?
- Um, it is in Germany. - Okay.
It is in Frankfurt,
and it is hopefully going to be here tomorrow.
Okay.
Oh, Kyle, hi.
You guys already are like that?
- Yeah. We're dressed. - I didn't have many choices.
What are you doing?
I need a steamer and some glue.
Meanwhile, we're about to go have cocktails and chill out.
- I mean, wow. - But you look good, though.
Your hair is done, makeup is done.
Well, I tried, whatever.
What's happened? How's your roommate?
Oh, yeah.
[intriguing music] How's your roommate?
I almost forgot.
[stammering]: I need to understand.
- How did this happen? - I need some clarification.
So you went from the way you guys were in Sedona
to "I'll room with her. No problem."
No, no-- Sutton is planning to take
down Amanda in her sleep.
I think that's actually the reason
why she's in the room with her.
I mean, I think this is a case of Sutton just doing the most.
Like, she felt like she had to be nice
because things weren't comfortable.
You really had to go to that extreme, Sutton?
Sleeping in twin beds with Amanda?
Amanda better not leave her drink unattended.
I think she's gonna wake up in the middle of the night
and be like, uh-huh-uh-huh!
Her oat milk? Uh-huh-uh-huh.
[laughing]: I think it'll be okay.
I'm new to the midriff game.
You know what it's like being pregnant with twins.
The stomach is never quite--
No.
And this is the first time
to have a midriff moment since having babies.
- That is very exciting. - So the whole thing
- is really a moment for me. - The night is yours.
- I'm something. - What could go wrong?
- It can't, it's starting off okay. Yeah.
- Hi, guys. - Hi.
I haven't seen you in forever.
Oh, my God. we match, in Dolce. I feel like.
Are you in Dolce?
- I am. - I love our--
- Hi, honey. - Hi.
I do love our colors together.
- We should take a photo. - Honestly, like you know me,
I don't pack with strategy at all.
You didn't [bleep] around with the jewelry though, did you?
Uh, I think these are all Dior from like a life,
literally like a lifetime ago.
- Hello! - Oh, my God, look at the queen.
Jennifer Tilly in the house!
Look, everybody's all Dolce Gabbana'd out. How gorgeous.
How are you?
[rhythmic music] Jennifer Tilly is my hero.
She's like an art form.
When she commits, she is committed.
I need somebody at home to pour me drinks.
My boyfriend's never there.
In the chicest, chicest way.
- Hello. - Sutton Brown.
Hi, Sutton, you look gorgeous, oh, my gosh.
Is this all borrowed finery?
No, this was in my carry-on.
- Here she is. - Hi, honey!
- You are just gorgeous. - You look beautiful,
you cleaned up so nice.
[kissing]
- Hi, guys. - Hi, queen.
- Hi, everybody. - Look at you.
It's stunning.
Oh, hey.
Everybody's really, I am impressed with all of us.
I really wanna know what Rachel thinks about
twinning with Amanda in this Dolce print dress.
[intriguing music]
She probably burned it.
[chuckling]
Hi, everybody. Hi.
- Hi, lady. - Hi, honey.
Hi.
Where's Dorit?
Where is she?
Let me just give her a quick call.
Ah, Stefano!
Look at all of you.
Woo! [clapping]
We love it here, it's gorgeous.
You're so wonderful.
Boz, the very big surprise is ready.
Okay, well, let me, let me make one phone call.
- I'm making it. - And then we'll be, yes.
- Oh, almost ready. - I don't know.
We're gonna try her. Should we try it one more time?
- Yes. - I don't know.
Try it one more time. What's the surprise?
I ain't gonna tell you the surprise.
The surprise-- okay, Stefano, we're so excited.
[curious music] Just give me a few minutes.
It just seems that Dorit has increasingly been late
to everything, everywhere we go.
It's like, she's just in her own time zone.
Come on, hey, Boz's is waiting for you.
She's got some surprise, everybody's waiting.
Amanda, have you seen Dorit since she came back?
[tense music]
I have not.
Speaking with Dorit feels like torture.
I told you my kid died
and you kept getting really, really strong.
Just know--
Okay.
I need to be able to go to a dinner party
without being verbally accosted.
Were you verbally accosted by me?
My experience is that when you get to the heart of a person,
you can hear each other.
So I'm going to try one more time.
Let's clear this----ing up.
Honey, I'm on my way.
No, seriously.
Coming up.
[tense music] What about the fact
that everyone share that same opinion,
but you're most offended that I have it?
You know what it is? You gotta learn to read the room
[soft music]
- Come on. Hey. - Baby?
Boz is waiting for you.
She's got some surprise. Everybody's waiting.
Honey, I'm on my way.
No, seriously.
Erica, I literally got my luggage.
I swear to God, it was in Kathy's room.
Oh.
All right, let's go down here.
We need to go have a good time with the people.
But I have to-I have to do this bag because...
That's fine.
I don't even think you need a bag, but whatever.
- I know, well, um... - Come on, come on.
Erica, did you take my rings?
Absolutely not.
I meant like for me.
No.
[indistinct chatter]
Everybody looks so pretty, right?
Yay! She's here!
Good! Oh, thank God.
- Oh, Lord, girl. - Gorgeous!
- So you went to get her? - I did.
Thank you so much.
Girl, you look fantastic. I love it.
Beautiful.
- So we are all done now. - We're all here.
We are definitely, definitely, definitely
- ready for the grand surprise. - Yes!
- Look at this! - Oh, my goodness.
Wow!
Welcome to the Villa Bibbiani Theatre!
Oh!
[rhythmic music]
Look at this blue!
So lovely!
- Look at this room! - Oh, my God. Nice.
[sighing] So beautiful, look at this.
Gorgeous.
This is so luxurious.
My God, this to me, is like
the ultimate of all things to have in your villa.
A theater.
Thank you, I'll be taking the stage right now.
[cheering]
That's a goal.
Not like, "We're gonna watch movies in my theater."
But no bitch, we're gonna put on shows in this theater.
This theater belongs to the 1700
and is like all hand painted.
As usually we say in this moment,
let's have the music start. [drumroll]
Oh, okay.
[screaming]
This is amazing, Boz.
I don't care what happens after this.
I mean...
[clapping]
[soft music piano music]
[operatic singing]
Oh, I do that too.
[hiccups]
[laughing]
[operatic singing]
I love opera.
So much so that I'm on the LA Opera brand board.
Okay?
If these women have any culture, they're gonna appreciate it.
And if they don't appreciate it, they ain't got no culture.
Ah, we got this one.
Yeah, we gonna sing along.
- Tried and true. - Sing along, everyone.
Tonight, I am getting a little bit weepy
because my mother was an opera singer,
and so we always used to listen to opera
growing up in the house, so...
I am in seventh heaven listening to these beautiful singers.
[dramatic operatic singing]
Woo! [cheering]
[cheering in Italian]
I'm gonna let you in on a little secret.
I fall asleep at opera.
Please. Tell. No one.
Thank you.
Grazie, grazie, grazie.
Hey, Dorit. Hi. Could we speak?
I just need to the restroom.
We'll talk in a minute, hold on.
[singing]: O, sole mio!
Here, do you wanna take a selfie
with me to get your mind off the fact
- that you have to pee? - Yeah.
[chuckling]: For memories. - Okay.
No, but I am so ready to speak.
[tense music] I just want to say
what I have to say and hopefully get to a better place.
You have not seen her since that dinner, right?
Yeah.
That feels like it was forever ago.
It was a long time ago, so hopefully we've had time
to collect our thoughts and settle.
Did she say hi to you?
I mean, I just asked her to talk just now,
and, uh, she said she needed to use the restroom
and then we could speak.
- Boz? - Yes, honey?
When do you want to do dinner?
Because Amanda's asking me to go.
Yes, we're just waiting.
Well, she asked to, um,
have a conversation with me, so I just want to make sure
I'm not holding you up.
You're not holding us up.
If you allow us to, we'll eat without you.
I'd rather have dinner, and then we can chat later.
Okay, right after dinner?
Yeah.
Dorit has zero respect for Amanda.
So Amanda has to, like, show her,
one, that she cares about her relationship with Dorit.
And two, that she wants to fix it.
And, like, really be, have conviction about it.
Let's have dinner. She went to a lot of trouble.
Everyone's, you know.
But being such a weenie...
doesn't show that.
Come on, girl.
I'd rather enjoy. Can we speak privately?
Can we, though?
[tense music] Amanda, whatever you want.
But let's-let's, I want to enjoy myself.
So you want, you have something to say and you want to say it.
Let's have dinner and then say what you got to say.
- Okay. - Okay?
Cool.
Coming up.
Dorit, you're out to dinner with PK.
[tense music] We flew all the way over here.
You didn't tell me this sh--?
I'm picking and choosing who I speak to about my situation.
[soft music]
- Dinner is ready! - [all cheering]
Absolutely beautiful.
I have to take a video of this.
This is like a dream.
She took her shoes off.
I'm very scared.
I don't think this is a good idea for my tiny ankles.
Woo!
This is so beautiful.
Oh, my God, you guys, it's so pretty.
Oh!
I'm showing Alexia the flowers.
[speaking Italian]
It's so beautiful, Stefano.
Again, thank you so much.
Thank you so much. Beautiful.
Yes, thank you so, so much.
I think we need to bring Stefano home.
What do you mean? We live here now.
[laughing]
Hmm, like, just a tiny, tiny bit.
A little. Thanks so much.
That's enough.
Just a taste, I appreciate it.
This oil is the one that we have over here
because we have the olive groves.
- So this is-- - Did you make this, Stefano?
Yeah, we do it. We do it.
Oh!
Mmh. That is good olive oil.
Oh, thank you so much.
No wine. Thank you.
So, we will start with, uh, some of the classic things
that we serve here in Tuscany.
So the classical Pecorino Toscano cheese.
Thank God.
Melon with raw ham.
Wait, I have to take a picture of this.
This is my son's favorite thing.
Sky would eat prosciutto melon literally every day.
- Cheese! - Yes, we want cheese.
Honestly, I feel so much happier when I'm in Europe.
I feel like it's where I'm supposed to be.
I have a retirement plan to live in a chateau
in the south of France overlooking the sea.
And just to live in caftans and jewelry,
and then sit on the beach and make jewelry, just for fun.
I lived in London for 10 years.
- We were UK residents-- - Right, that's what I thought.
But we'd come to LA every six weeks.
- Would you live in Europe? - I'd move tomorrow,
100 %. I would.
I'm gonna be perpetually tan.
I will die tan, I promise.
And hopefully wearing Chanel, we'll see.
Madame, sorry, you want a piece of steak?
Yes. Please.
That beef looks beautiful.
- Isn't that beautiful? - It's sexy and gorgeous.
[laughing]: It's sexy and gorgeous.
Bolognese or cacio e pepe?
Uh, cacio e pepe.
Dorit, can I ask you a question?
I saw, I don't know if anyone else saw,
you were out to dinner with PK.
You did?
Girl, we flew all the way over here,
you didn't tell me this sh--.
What? The [bleep] is going on with you?
Kemsley. I quit.
I've sort of pulled back
and really picking and choosing
who I speak to about my situation.
Oh, okay.
This is a very personal and sensitive.
It's my life, and to be judged
or to have people's opinion about
what I should or shouldn't be feeling
or saying and so on and so forth,
It just feels like there are certain people in this group
that I feel more comfortable sharing.
I know you're not talking about me.
You should have told me you went to dinner with him.
Oh, honey, you know that I talk to you freely
- Okay, I was insulted. - How do you think I felt
when I saw you holding hands with a guy?
[laughing]
- Damn! - Excuse me.
Hold on a second, no one knew that.
Exactly.
No one was supposed to see that.
It was like a second date, so.
Erika...
No, we're back on you. [laughing]
So what happened? Everything,
is that a good, that's obviously a good sign, no?
Not about getting back together at all.
I didn't think so.
It's all about the kids.
We now are inserting a consistent schedule.
That's great.
I feel like that's a very good sign.
That's very positive.
Do you feel happy with where you are?
[pensive music] Relieved, probably.
Thank you. I feel relieved.
Great.
If this dinner with PK went well,
I'm hoping this is the first step
of them mending their relationship
regardless of where that takes them.
And that that means that
Dorit will be in a better place mentally.
I see you now as being stronger.
This is good. Huge steps.
Small steps. Small steps, but like, step.
Yeah. A step is good.
I'll have another piece 'cause it's really, really good.
Medium? I'll do this one.
Beautiful.
Sure. Thanks.
I'm shocked to see you two sharing a room.
[tense music]
'Cause I didn't think that it was the smoothest at your place.
Talking about somebody else's marriage is not nothing.
You can't be such a wimp. Come on!
You know better.
Hey, you're in my home. Don't call me a wimp, please.
Yeah, I don't know if this is a good choice for Sutton.
She's been trying to repair her relationship with Dorit.
So, what's going on here?
Are you causing trouble, Sutton Brown?
Why did you choose to room with her?
I told her-I told her my thoughts
on why I wanted to share rooms with her.
- And what were your thoughts? - Yes.
When I was at your house, I was quite strong.
- Yeah. - On my opinion
of how you've been handling this thing with Dorit.
But when I started thinking about it,
I've also been new to this group,
and felt picked apart a little bit.
I thought, I don't want Amanda just feeling alone.
I just wanted to say to Amanda,
"Look, it's okay if you have an opinion,
but you should have told Dorit."
I believed fully that if I explained what happened,
why it happened, how it happened,
what I meant by it in the full context,
it would be clear that no one was talking bad about you.
[tense music] You don't know me very well.
You don't know the situation.
Um, having that judgment,
I think if it was coming from a good place,
then I would expect that you would sit down
and have a one-on-one conversation.
And then if I had invited your
- opinion or your advice. - Sure--
However, it just felt like
when I'd asked if you had said it,
it felt a lot of putting it on Kyle.
Okay, Amanda, I have a question.
Do you feel like Dorit talking about
PK and her situation is not a good thing?
What is your actual opinion? Let's just clear it now.
I've said it multiple times now.
- Which is? - I think it could
make her life hard, yeah.
What about the fact that everyone, I think,
or a lot of us, have shared that same opinion,
but you're most offended that I have it?
Okay, so you heard Kyle's opinion
and you adopted it as your own. Fine.
I didn't adopt it as my own.
I agreed with it because it made sense to me.
Great, that's the same.
It's six of one and half a dozen of the other.
So I was asking if that's how you felt.
Does it bother you that you don't know her very well
and she would speak like that one way to your face
and then another way at Kathy's?
Absolutely. That was my point.
But also, that can also be supporting you
by saying, "I don't think this is a good idea
because we are looking out for you."
But that's a different opinion you have
because you have history.
[tense music swelling]
If a friend is coming from a good place
and they say that to you once and you hear them.
And then they say it repeatedly and to other people
and behind your back and then to other people
that don't know you, it suddenly starts to feel like
it's no longer, they're looking out for you
or trying to look out for you.
You know what it is?
I think when somebody doesn't know someone,
you got to learn to read the room and know your place.
[dramatic music]
[laughing]
If Kathy Hilton,
who is a beautifully put together woman,
tells you to read the room and know your place,
baby, you're----ed.
[dramatic music]
You know what it is? I think when somebody
doesn't know someone,
you gotta learn to read the room and know your place.
Amen.
In this moment, Kathy is voicing
what everybody is thinking,
but Kathy's the one who says it,
which is really surprising because
Kathy is usually the peacemaker.
It shut everybody up.
Everyone's like, "Kathy?"
She must have really got under your skin!
What about the fact that it is an informed opinion?
Like, I worked closely with a lot of children
of divorced parents as a therapist.
I did see parents talking bad about each other,
making things hard on the family.
[clearing throat]
But she's not talking about him to her kids.
You're not her therapist.
You are her friend at a dinner table.
So just put it in a friendship box
and not in a therapeutic box.
Dorit, what do you need from Amanda?
[tense music] I don't need anything, Kyle.
Kyle, you're not the therapist.
- Come on, y'all. - I don't need anything.
Do you want something or need for an apology or...
I don't need anything.
Let me ask you this.
When you brought up the cult the other night at the dinner,
what was your intention when you went back
357 blog posts to a blog I wrote 14 years ago?
Well--
If I was annoyed with somebody, I'd do a deep dive.
Definitely didn't read 357 blog posts.
But how did you get there?
It's called Google.
If you search Amanda Francis.
- Cult? - Cult. It doesn't come up.
- No, I checked. - Girl, it sure does.
But is it something to be hidden? Is that why?
No, I'm not hiding it at all.
Okay, so then there's no problem.
- I'm just wondering-- - What are we talking about?
It just feels like a deep dive where you're looking on dirt.
I mean, you should take it as a compliment,
because I don't usually Google anyone,
but you had said that you sold hundreds of thousands of books.
And so I went to research your book
and I came across this blog.
But a cult is like a serious word.
Absolutely. Meeting the criteria for a cult means
the environment has to be unique, controlling,
systems of reward and punishment.
What did you experience?
We want to talk about the cult right now?
Isn't that what you're talking about?
Sure. Um,
so the way their reward and punishment worked is when--
I think you should stop and tell them how you got into it.
Okay.
The purpose of the cult is, like, is it a religion?
I mean, give us a highlight reel.
Highlight reel. Okay.
Girl growing up in the Bible Belt,
very, very close to her youth pastors, very close.
They're like parents to her.
They were moving far away to start a church,
and they recruited a lot of their youth to go with them.
And at first, it's like, you know, a church internship.
I'll say at first, it's pretty chill.
It got scary isolating, scary controlling,
wasn't speaking to my family.
The more isolated and controlling it gets,
it's almost like you don't have words and a language
for the regular world anymore
because you're in this, like, system that's not normal.
So you can't go out to the world and just have a conversation
because the way you speak, the way you think
is so not of the world anymore, right?
Were you going out into the world?
We all worked day jobs to support the church,
but when we were out in the world,
we were kind of recruiting for the church.
So it got more isolating, more controlling,
more crazy it went on.
And I said, y'all, I wanna go to college.
I said to the pastor, I wanna go to college.
Didn't you say you were like in your 20s when you joined it?
Well, I was 16 when I met them.
- Mm-hmm. - I moved, I followed them
down after ministry training school, so I was 19.
When you're isolated and you're young like that,
and those are the only people you socialize with.
- You're very impressionable. - Yep.
When I think of cult, I think of Charles Manson.
I think of people out here murdering people.
What about that Mother God cult?
Remember them?
Prayed to this woman that turned silver
and then carried her dead body around
in the backseat of a, of a, like,
a station wagon or something, wrapped in Christmas lights.
Okay, Mother God.
So there's a this sh-- lot of this going on,
and the Mother God people better leave me the alone.
A lot of times, it doesn't get crazy
until it gets crazy.
My point is, these things happen.
When we say cult, maybe it's not like the Manson cult.
Perhaps it is a sort of coercive,
very tightly controlled environment.
I mean, some people thought Bikram yoga was a cult.
Was there any physical, emotional, sexual abuse?
Emotional, psychological, not physical or sexual.
But there was boys and girls.
That run the cult? Yeah.
And they want the girls to marry the boys
- in the little order-- - And make babies right away
so you kind of stuck there, right?
But do they let you leave freely?
Let me, oh, I ran away in the middle of the night.
[dramatic music]
But do they let you leave freely?
Let me, oh, I ran away in the middle of the night.
Did they retract you after that?
They, so I, they tried a lot.
I, um, called the ordination, I don't know how to say it.
I called where the pastor was licensed and ordained
and said, this is what this man is doing,
you need to call him and tell him to leave me alone.
And they did, and I never heard from him after that.
Wow, that was easy.
I think everybody is interested in the idea
that Amanda, who seems to have it all together, was in a cult.
If you had to escape in the middle of the night.
Mm-hmm?
Surely there must have been some type of pressure.
And then she says, I packed everything up and I just...
left in the middle of the night.
And we're all like, and then what happened?
And she's like, that's it.
It was like the end of the story.
I am happy you brought it up.
Actually really happy
because it wasn't really on the forefront of my mind.
And then I got to have a great conversation with Erika.
And then I sat down and outlined my next book.
[curious music] [chuckling]
Which is going to be on this topic.
And I think it's all kind of perfect.
I'm happy about it.
Did you want to go back after you left?
[sighing]
There was something that made you want to leave the system.
So, okay, man, I don't know
if I have the stamina to go through this story. Hold on.
Well, if you're going to write a book about it,
you need to have the stamina for it.
Well, I can write a book. I've proven that.
I believe, in life, when you're open,
you get exactly what you need.
I didn't know I needed a bat sh-- crazy person
to bring up the cult all the time to inspire me to write.
But God delivered.
We are gonna capitalize.
We are gonna write the book.
Thank you, Dorit.
Bless her and her ghostwriter.
It's so funny to me that everybody's like,
"Why do you want a room with Amanda?"
She's interesting in this very...
wild way.
Like, you have had a very interesting life.
So how's the rooming?
Is it good? Do you enjoy it?
Actually, we listened to Taylor Swift and got ready.
- Oh, God. - Take it easy, take it easy,
take it easy.
Holy sh--.
What happened?
Wait.
[laughing]: What?
[laughing]
I really just wanna make sure that she feels,
you know, welcome here in Florence with us.
Are you getting soft?
Yes, I'm getting soft.
Oh, well, she can switch on a dime.
You're up to something, Brown.
[chuckling] [intriguing music]
[upbeat music]
Good morning.
Okay, my loves,
I have news, and it's news you're really gonna like.
So I'm writing the God book.
Maybe we're going to call it, Spiritual As [bleep].
I'm not sure.
This morning, I started the intro.
We have an intro.
My next book is gonna be out in the world.
I am so excited.
[upbeat music]
Bellissima.
We're going shopping today.
- Mmh. - So excited.
Collections in Europe, the collections in Italy
will be different than what you get in America.
Oh yeah, oh, of course.
I love it.
[energetic music]
[screaming]
I'm stuck.
Help!
Just want a cappuccino.
[upbeat music]
This is so pretty.
I know, it's nice.
Let's sit under the umbrella.
Oh, lovely, there's fruit.
I like the healthy fruit and these Fonzies.
They're akin to a Cheeto.
Oh!
And who doesn't like a Cheeto?
Hello.
- Hi! - Hi!
What are you all doing out here?
- We're just hanging out... - I'm writing my book.
What's happening girls? How did you sleep?
I got less than six hours, so not amazing,
but I feel better than I did yesterday with no sleep.
Yeah.
How did you feel about last night?
[crickets chirping afar]
If I were to be really honest...
- That would be nice. - Yup.
I think I always am.
And whatever, you know what I mean?
Like, to me the energy felt hostile, tense.
You could cut it with a knife and that's not fun.
That's not how I want to do dinner.
Well, then, you've got to make it stop.
I think the person who can keep their cool
and just say what they have to say
is the person who has more control.
[intriguing music] I like time
to think about what's been said,
formulate my thoughts,
be clear on how I feel and not be emotionally reactive.
So I always, almost always,
try to speak from like a calm, regulated place.
That's usually a good thing.
I would go crazy if some person
went and found something
and tried to make it really negative.
Because it's not like she was like,
"Ooh, this is so fascinating to me."
"Amanda, tell me more about your life." Yeah, yeah.
"Tell me about this cult."
It was like, "Well, you were in a cult, you weirdo."
That's how it came across.
Do you not feel she's judging you about the cult?
- She's probably judging me. - Right.
So then she was upset with you for judging about the PK thing.
Well, she's judging you for the cult. So why don't you say like,
if you have such an issue with judging people
before getting to know them, why are you judging me
right now about the----ing cult?
A belief in this group seems to be
that unless you're acting absolutely crazy,
you're not expressing yourself.
And that is untrue.
I think there's a lot more strength in stepping back
and deciding whether this is a conversation
worth my time and energy.
If I can't get anywhere with Dorit, I'm not gonna engage
because what's the point?
Amanda, I'm sorry. You're frustrating me.
Don't let her steam roll over you.
Don't let anybody...
I'm gonna get ready, guys.
I can't do it. I can't talk in circles.
You can't make a cat a dog.
Connect with your feelings and share them.
You can do it.
Why am I eating these Cheetos?
Coming up.
[tense music] What prompted him?
Why did he have to choose that moment?
He's not even with him, you're not around, and
- dropped it like a big bomb. - Can you imagine this?
Like, the whole thing is so twisted.
[pensive music]
I mean Pamela, really?
I literally woke up,
I overslept because I got a full jet lag blackout
and I wake up and I see this text from Kaius
and I want to kill myself because I'm like,
I mean, I can't believe I wasn't awake but it was like,
must have been 3, must have been 6 a.m. my time.
I get this text from Kaius, and...
he basically tells me, you know,
his dad sat him down to talk about the girlfriend.
I'm gonna throw up.
Okay.
Okay, I love you. Bye.
[sighing] Baby!
Look at this text from Kaius.
- No! - Yeah.
"He told me that we..."
- Shut the... - Yeah.
[tense music] A month ago,
she showed up at the airport
before they were leaving for camp.
So you know that my ex has this girlfriend, right?
- No? - She's never met the kids.
My kids are leaving,
and literally, she----ing appears.
Dad was there, and it was just like,
"This is my friend," and it was like, "Hi,"
and I was like, "Hi," and I just looked away,
and I was like, oh, that's the person.
And then I believe he said, "This is my friend."
So in actuality, the conversation hadn't been had,
or it's like, "I have a girlfriend."
I think when they hear it for real,
it's different than kind of suspecting it.
You had the conversation?
Yeah. You wanna know what the conversation was?
"Don't you dare tell them about her
or bring her around them without my consent."
It's like, the airport was the worst.
After the airport, I was like, okay.
I already, I annihilated him for that.
Okay.
Then the first night you're ing with him?
No.
In five weeks, six weeks, like what?
And this is what you do?
[tense music]
This is the stuff of mothers' nightmares.
He knows you're away.
He knows I'm away.
He knows I'm away!
- He knows you're away. - He knows I'm away!
Roger sharing with the kids that he has a girlfriend
puts such a finality on their parents' split.
Like, you----ing asshole.
- You----ing asshole. - Oh, my God.
And you know what it does to you as a mother,
being thousands of miles away,
not being able to swoop in and just grab your kids,
comfort them, make it all better?
It makes you feel like a failure.
Is Sky with him?
- Sky's not with him. - Okay.
Sky's at his best friend's house.
Yeah, without his brother, without me.
So what prompted him?
Why did he have to choose that moment?
He's not even with him, you're not around, and
- dropped it like a big bomb? - Can you imagine this?
- No. - And then it's like,
and then Kaius can't even reach me.
And I can't even call him now
because it's 5.30 in the morning there.
Like, the whole thing is so twisted.
[dramatic music] Oh, my God, honey.
Let's talk about it.
Like, to me, forcing my kids to be in a situation
that they don't feel... comfortable
is like the most brutal thing that I could ever----ing do.
To me, it was just an absolute,
blatant disrespect and disregard for the family dynamic.
Are you gonna message Roger?
- Yeah, I already did. - Oh, you did?
'Cause that's what I was gonna ask.
I asked him what the [bleep] he was thinking.
It's like, the only thing I'm actually thinking about
is how do I get home?
Because there's no way I'm having fun right now.
If I----ing took drugs, this would be the time.
If I smoked cigarettes, now would be the time.
Next time on
The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
[rhythmic music] Oh, look at David.
Oh, wow.
Notice the cum gutters.
- I'm sorry, what did you say? - Erica!
[tense music] Today, out of the blue,
you're talking sh-- again.
- How did I talk sh--? - About me!
- I wasn't talking sh--. - And I would be pissed.
Please hold.
- Should we all get masks?
They're great.
Amanda.
[dramatic music] Don't pin this on me, Amanda.
She said, "Yes, that's what she said."
You're lying.
And you know what doesn't lie?
The cameras!