1 00:00:02,769 --> 00:00:04,805 [chime] 2 00:00:04,872 --> 00:00:09,134 [dramatic music] 3 00:00:16,717 --> 00:00:18,352 Yeah, if she wants to play this villain now 4 00:00:18,418 --> 00:00:19,953 that everyone thought was cool. She's smoking, so now 5 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:22,489 she walks around puffing her cigarette acting like an asshole 6 00:00:22,556 --> 00:00:24,892 because people thought it was cool. You have fun with that. 7 00:00:24,958 --> 00:00:27,361 This is about the three of us coming apart. 8 00:00:28,996 --> 00:00:29,963 I'm ready! 9 00:00:30,564 --> 00:00:34,201 Tonight, three-part Beverly Hills Reunion begins. 10 00:00:34,268 --> 00:00:37,871 Do you think he was emotionally abusive to you? Tom? 11 00:00:37,938 --> 00:00:39,873 Kyle, if you do file for divorce, 12 00:00:39,940 --> 00:00:42,492 will you be asking for half of the agency? 13 00:00:42,526 --> 00:00:44,678 - Well, it's mine. - Does he realize that? 14 00:00:44,745 --> 00:00:45,712 Oh. 15 00:00:45,779 --> 00:00:47,314 You accused her of lashing out. 16 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:51,518 In order to save my job. I fucking came unglued! 17 00:00:51,585 --> 00:00:53,020 Do you want to apologize? 18 00:00:53,086 --> 00:00:54,588 Apologize for what, Andy? 19 00:00:54,655 --> 00:00:57,991 She's saying that it made her flip. 20 00:00:58,025 --> 00:01:00,160 - I didn't say it was a failure. - Yes, you did! 21 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:01,228 Get over it. 22 00:01:01,295 --> 00:01:02,763 Don't talk behind my back! 23 00:01:02,863 --> 00:01:04,314 I fucking told him! 24 00:01:05,132 --> 00:01:06,667 I'm very sorry. 25 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:07,768 But do you mean it? 26 00:01:07,868 --> 00:01:10,170 No, Erika, I'm a cold-hearted 27 00:01:10,270 --> 00:01:12,005 fucking cunt. 28 00:01:12,139 --> 00:01:13,240 [laughs] 29 00:01:13,307 --> 00:01:15,075 You really like that word. 30 00:01:16,568 --> 00:01:17,911 [upbeat music] 31 00:01:17,978 --> 00:01:19,346 Taking my selfie. 32 00:01:19,413 --> 00:01:22,015 [camera shutter snaps] 33 00:01:22,049 --> 00:01:23,517 Well, hi, Ms. Brown. 34 00:01:23,584 --> 00:01:25,752 Beverly Hills is in the house, I see. 35 00:01:26,745 --> 00:01:29,256 Mwah! So pretty! 36 00:01:32,426 --> 00:01:34,394 Look at this showgirl. 37 00:01:34,461 --> 00:01:36,863 - It's nice to see you. - Wow. Hi. You look great. 38 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:38,090 - Thank you. - Wow. 39 00:01:38,156 --> 00:01:40,767 It's time to put a show on! Heh, heh! 40 00:01:40,867 --> 00:01:43,095 This is very heavy, I think. 41 00:01:43,161 --> 00:01:45,872 - Dude, it's 74 pounds. - Is this dress gonna be hot? 42 00:01:45,939 --> 00:01:47,432 Oh, my God, you guys. 43 00:01:47,499 --> 00:01:49,876 This is what Rachel Zoe wears to a reunion. 44 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:52,479 - Hi, girls! - Yes! 45 00:01:52,546 --> 00:01:53,780 Who is it, Rachel? 46 00:01:53,847 --> 00:01:55,507 This is vintage J. Mendel. 47 00:01:55,607 --> 00:01:57,217 - Really gorgeous. - Oh, it's J. Mendel! 48 00:01:57,284 --> 00:01:58,085 Oh, my gosh! 49 00:01:58,151 --> 00:01:59,845 Not the car on the set. 50 00:01:59,911 --> 00:02:01,355 Never had that before. 51 00:02:01,421 --> 00:02:02,956 Look at you matching the car. 52 00:02:03,023 --> 00:02:04,916 I really like it. 53 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:07,060 Everybody looks gorgeous! 54 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,047 [tense music] 55 00:02:11,623 --> 00:02:13,091 Hello, everyone. 56 00:02:13,667 --> 00:02:15,002 It's so cool. 57 00:02:15,102 --> 00:02:16,003 Hi, Dorit. 58 00:02:16,069 --> 00:02:17,971 Okay, I'm gonna go this way. 59 00:02:19,673 --> 00:02:21,133 [music stops] 60 00:02:21,199 --> 00:02:23,368 All right, are we waiting for the Money Queen? 61 00:02:23,468 --> 00:02:24,578 Hey, Dorit, guess what? 62 00:02:24,645 --> 00:02:26,613 - You weren't the last one. - I'm not the last. 63 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,814 I know, baby! 64 00:02:27,881 --> 00:02:29,116 Hey, Money Queen. 65 00:02:29,182 --> 00:02:31,618 - Hi. How are you? Mwah! - Mwah. 66 00:02:31,685 --> 00:02:34,454 - Hello. Hello. You ready? - Hi. I guess. 67 00:02:34,488 --> 00:02:35,989 - How do you be ready? - That's right! 68 00:02:36,056 --> 00:02:41,662 Cameras up and to Andy in three, two, one. 69 00:02:41,728 --> 00:02:42,863 Hey, everybody. 70 00:02:42,929 --> 00:02:45,165 Welcome to The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills 71 00:02:45,265 --> 00:02:47,534 Season 15 Reunion. 72 00:02:47,601 --> 00:02:50,771 I'm Andy Cohen and here's what I'm manifesting today... 73 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:52,205 [chuckling] 74 00:02:52,305 --> 00:02:55,801 ...friendship, conflict, followed by resolution. 75 00:02:55,834 --> 00:02:56,977 Hmm. 76 00:02:57,044 --> 00:03:01,081 And our set is manifesting the iconic Rodeo Drive. 77 00:03:01,181 --> 00:03:02,916 Good evening, ladies. 78 00:03:02,983 --> 00:03:04,785 Good evening, Andy. 79 00:03:04,851 --> 00:03:06,386 - Hi, Rachel Zoe. - Hi, Andy. 80 00:03:06,486 --> 00:03:08,255 Everyone's obsessed with your boys. 81 00:03:08,355 --> 00:03:10,057 Aw, me too. 82 00:03:10,157 --> 00:03:11,491 They love their mom. 83 00:03:11,558 --> 00:03:14,294 Has Skylar bought an Hermes bangle 84 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:15,862 for any girls lately? 85 00:03:15,929 --> 00:03:17,698 No. I have to say when that's okay. 86 00:03:17,764 --> 00:03:19,800 Sky, I love this. 87 00:03:19,833 --> 00:03:21,660 Don't just by any random girl 88 00:03:21,693 --> 00:03:23,328 - an Hermes bracelet. - Okay. 89 00:03:23,361 --> 00:03:25,005 Did he use his allowance? 90 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:26,998 He did. He used his bar mitzvah money. 91 00:03:27,032 --> 00:03:28,542 Aw! 92 00:03:28,608 --> 00:03:30,644 Hey Amanda. Welcome to your first reunion. 93 00:03:30,677 --> 00:03:31,745 Thank you. 94 00:03:31,812 --> 00:03:33,413 What are you manifesting for today? 95 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,343 Be myself. Say the truth. Maybe have some fun. 96 00:03:38,376 --> 00:03:39,986 Okay. Hi, Sutton Brown. 97 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:42,856 - Hello. - Sutton Brown's first reunion. 98 00:03:42,889 --> 00:03:44,991 - Yes, I know. - Easy breezy. 99 00:03:45,058 --> 00:03:46,026 Easy breezy. 100 00:03:46,059 --> 00:03:47,494 - Hi, Erika. - Hey. 101 00:03:47,561 --> 00:03:49,262 - How ya doin'? - I'm good. 102 00:03:49,362 --> 00:03:51,098 How is DJing going? 103 00:03:51,164 --> 00:03:55,001 Honey, I had two fabulous weeks in Australia. 104 00:03:55,068 --> 00:03:59,606 [club music] 105 00:03:59,706 --> 00:04:01,108 I had the best time. 106 00:04:01,174 --> 00:04:03,677 Look, I get to wear latex and play other people's records, 107 00:04:03,744 --> 00:04:05,278 and have a good time. 108 00:04:05,378 --> 00:04:07,481 I like it. Hi, Boz. 109 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:08,748 - Hello. - Let's see that ring. 110 00:04:08,815 --> 00:04:10,016 - Ooh! - Wow! 111 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:12,119 - It's shiny. - Beautiful. 112 00:04:12,185 --> 00:04:13,754 I do have a special request. 113 00:04:13,854 --> 00:04:15,021 - Oh. - Okay. 114 00:04:15,055 --> 00:04:17,591 For my Beverly Hills wedding, 115 00:04:17,657 --> 00:04:19,050 I would love for you to DJ 116 00:04:19,084 --> 00:04:20,694 - for the wedding. - I will. Absolutely. 117 00:04:20,827 --> 00:04:21,828 Consider it done. 118 00:04:21,928 --> 00:04:22,863 Thank you. Thank you. 119 00:04:22,963 --> 00:04:24,297 That's so great. 120 00:04:24,364 --> 00:04:25,866 - Hi, Dorit. - Hi, Andy. 121 00:04:25,932 --> 00:04:27,592 - Great to see you. - Good to see you. 122 00:04:27,659 --> 00:04:29,703 - How are you feeling tonight? - Good. Great. 123 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:31,538 - Good. Hi, Kyle. - Hi, Andy. 124 00:04:31,571 --> 00:04:35,142 Kyle, you are officially Bravo's longest-running 125 00:04:35,208 --> 00:04:38,145 consecutive housewife across all franchises. 126 00:04:38,211 --> 00:04:40,914 - Wow! - This is your 15th season, 127 00:04:40,947 --> 00:04:44,718 15th straight reunion. How does it feel? 128 00:04:44,751 --> 00:04:46,353 I'm still standing. 129 00:04:46,453 --> 00:04:48,755 She deserves applause for that. 130 00:04:48,822 --> 00:04:51,183 - For sure, that's like a... - That's an achievement. 131 00:04:51,283 --> 00:04:53,927 So, before we get into it, I just want to talk about 132 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,395 where everyone stands, 133 00:04:55,428 --> 00:04:58,131 because the once rock-solid friendships 134 00:04:58,198 --> 00:05:00,592 of Kyle, Dorit, and Erika, 135 00:05:00,625 --> 00:05:04,471 were shaken, which impacted really, the whole group. 136 00:05:04,538 --> 00:05:06,106 Um... 137 00:05:06,873 --> 00:05:10,302 Do you all think that we can land in a positive spot 138 00:05:10,368 --> 00:05:12,479 by the end of the day? Or... 139 00:05:12,546 --> 00:05:14,347 - Who knows? - I would love that. 140 00:05:14,414 --> 00:05:16,850 - You would? - Of course, I would love that. 141 00:05:16,917 --> 00:05:18,418 - What do you think, Dorit? - I mean, listen, 142 00:05:18,485 --> 00:05:21,446 I'd always love that but we have to be realistic, 143 00:05:21,479 --> 00:05:23,490 you know. See how the day goes. 144 00:05:23,557 --> 00:05:24,883 Erika? 145 00:05:24,983 --> 00:05:26,493 I don't have much hope. 146 00:05:26,593 --> 00:05:27,427 Really? 147 00:05:27,527 --> 00:05:28,662 [scoffs] No. 148 00:05:28,728 --> 00:05:29,988 Okay. 149 00:05:30,055 --> 00:05:33,633 When new housewife Rachel Zoe saw how excited fans were 150 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:38,004 that she was back on Bravo, she probably said, "I'm dead." 151 00:05:38,071 --> 00:05:40,473 - I can't. - And "Are you okay?" 152 00:05:40,507 --> 00:05:43,944 And while the other women marveled at how stylish 153 00:05:43,977 --> 00:05:46,012 and put together their new friend was, 154 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:48,965 Rachel's home life was undergoing a painful, 155 00:05:48,999 --> 00:05:50,817 new makeover. Take a look. 156 00:05:50,850 --> 00:05:52,185 That is fair. Oh, God. 157 00:05:53,086 --> 00:05:54,821 Hello. 158 00:05:54,854 --> 00:05:56,022 My name's Rachel Zoe. 159 00:05:56,089 --> 00:05:58,458 You may or may not remember me from Bravo, 160 00:05:58,491 --> 00:06:00,026 'cause I've lived here before. 161 00:06:00,093 --> 00:06:01,595 I'm so cringey. 162 00:06:01,661 --> 00:06:03,163 Oh, I've got to have that bag! 163 00:06:03,196 --> 00:06:04,531 I'm a little bit in awe of her because 164 00:06:04,598 --> 00:06:08,827 she is one of the most famous stylists in Hollywood. 165 00:06:08,860 --> 00:06:09,970 People are always like, 166 00:06:10,003 --> 00:06:11,605 "Oh, my God, you have it so together." 167 00:06:11,705 --> 00:06:14,532 But on the inside, I'm like, oh, my God, I'm like, crumbling. 168 00:06:14,599 --> 00:06:17,344 I think we've outgrown each other. 169 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:18,345 He's always been Grateful Dead 170 00:06:18,411 --> 00:06:19,312 and I've always been St. Barts. 171 00:06:19,412 --> 00:06:20,380 So, you know that my ex 172 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,748 has this girlfriend, right? 173 00:06:21,848 --> 00:06:23,149 My kids are leaving. 174 00:06:23,183 --> 00:06:24,618 She fucking appears. 175 00:06:24,684 --> 00:06:27,387 Dad was there and he was just like, "This is my friend." 176 00:06:27,487 --> 00:06:29,214 And it was like, "Hi." And I was like, "Hi." 177 00:06:29,281 --> 00:06:30,323 And then I just looked away 178 00:06:30,423 --> 00:06:32,892 and I was like... oh that's "the" person. 179 00:06:33,777 --> 00:06:36,396 It's an absolute myriad of bad decisions 180 00:06:36,496 --> 00:06:40,333 that have been made over the last month, the last weeks, 181 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,602 the last fucking hour 182 00:06:42,702 --> 00:06:46,231 that would trigger me to move things forward. 183 00:06:46,298 --> 00:06:50,744 It's fucking everywhere. Like, it's everywhere. 184 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:52,846 He will be the greatest disappointment 185 00:06:52,879 --> 00:06:54,281 of my life forever. 186 00:06:54,347 --> 00:06:56,116 - Oh. So, you're okay. - I'm great. 187 00:06:56,182 --> 00:06:58,001 I'm fucking great. 188 00:06:59,252 --> 00:07:01,421 It came as no surprise the Bravo-verse 189 00:07:01,488 --> 00:07:04,524 was very excited to welcome you back into the fold. 190 00:07:04,658 --> 00:07:07,260 What did that tidal wave feel like? 191 00:07:07,327 --> 00:07:11,698 Honestly, the love has truthfully been overwhelming. 192 00:07:11,798 --> 00:07:14,367 And I think part of the fear of coming back in is, you know, 193 00:07:14,401 --> 00:07:18,338 having survived the tabloid era, 194 00:07:18,405 --> 00:07:21,041 of being the subject of fodder, a lot. 195 00:07:21,174 --> 00:07:23,243 I came in like, they're gonna come for me, 196 00:07:23,276 --> 00:07:25,779 they're gonna hate me. So, it was scary. 197 00:07:25,845 --> 00:07:27,781 But I also feel that I was a lot more open 198 00:07:27,847 --> 00:07:29,282 than I thought I would be. 199 00:07:29,349 --> 00:07:30,750 - Truthfully. - You were a lot more open, 200 00:07:30,817 --> 00:07:32,252 truthfully, than I thought you would be. 201 00:07:32,285 --> 00:07:34,079 - Yeah, me too. - To tell you the truth. 202 00:07:34,112 --> 00:07:37,390 Was there any part of you 203 00:07:37,424 --> 00:07:41,227 that wanted to get back at Rodger by coming on this show? 204 00:07:41,294 --> 00:07:42,962 No. Not even a little. 205 00:07:43,930 --> 00:07:45,932 I have to assume though, that now that 206 00:07:45,999 --> 00:07:47,759 - the show is airing... - Yep. 207 00:07:47,792 --> 00:07:50,437 ...is he seeing things and getting upset? 208 00:07:50,503 --> 00:07:51,571 Yeah. I think he hears. 209 00:07:51,604 --> 00:07:54,132 I'm sure that people tell him. 210 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:57,911 You know, listen, the only thing I could say very honestly 211 00:07:57,944 --> 00:08:02,048 is some really bad things happened in real time 212 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:04,517 this summer, that were quite shocking, 213 00:08:04,617 --> 00:08:06,920 and there's a lot that I didn't say. 214 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:10,657 Do you regret it? Do you regret being open? 215 00:08:10,724 --> 00:08:13,026 I don't really regret anything that I said 216 00:08:13,126 --> 00:08:14,728 because I definitely meant it. 217 00:08:14,794 --> 00:08:16,796 And honestly, I still mean it. 218 00:08:16,863 --> 00:08:20,800 But look, here's the thing, the truth is painful sometimes. 219 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:23,169 - Yeah. - But overall, definitely not. 220 00:08:23,236 --> 00:08:24,604 Because I think if it helps as many people 221 00:08:24,671 --> 00:08:26,973 as I would like it to, then I think that's great. 222 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,509 - And it helps you. - And you know, so. 223 00:08:29,576 --> 00:08:31,244 Moving on to your divorce. 224 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:33,580 We saw you file on the show. Is it resolved yet? 225 00:08:33,646 --> 00:08:35,682 No, but... but soon. 226 00:08:35,749 --> 00:08:37,517 We know that you weren't happy when 227 00:08:37,584 --> 00:08:42,489 Rodger's new girlfriend saw the boys at the airport. 228 00:08:42,555 --> 00:08:44,816 Do you have a relationship with her at all? 229 00:08:44,849 --> 00:08:45,859 Are you okay? 230 00:08:45,925 --> 00:08:47,527 - Are you okay? - Are you okay? 231 00:08:47,627 --> 00:08:49,529 - Seriously, are you okay? - Andy! 232 00:08:49,596 --> 00:08:51,322 - I have to ask. - Um, no. 233 00:08:51,356 --> 00:08:53,433 - No. - And not ever. And no. 234 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:56,469 Does he have any relationship with your parents? 235 00:08:56,603 --> 00:08:59,339 No. My dad can't really... 236 00:08:59,372 --> 00:09:02,976 it's hard. My mother is more able to talk to him, 237 00:09:03,009 --> 00:09:06,780 because for her, she's very much like, 238 00:09:06,846 --> 00:09:08,915 he's the father of my grandchildren. 239 00:09:08,982 --> 00:09:10,850 So, I did have him at Thanksgiving 240 00:09:10,917 --> 00:09:12,752 because my mother, we were all in Miami, 241 00:09:12,819 --> 00:09:14,220 and he happened to have been there 242 00:09:14,287 --> 00:09:15,989 with a friend, like a guy friend. 243 00:09:16,022 --> 00:09:20,226 And my mother was basically like, we need to invite him, 244 00:09:20,293 --> 00:09:23,054 at least for dessert or whatever. 245 00:09:23,121 --> 00:09:24,681 And I did, and he stayed... 246 00:09:24,714 --> 00:09:26,900 I thought it was gonna be dessert but it was from nine 247 00:09:26,966 --> 00:09:28,468 till like 1 AM. 248 00:09:28,535 --> 00:09:31,404 Wow. And Rodger's relationship with the boys is? 249 00:09:31,471 --> 00:09:33,506 Is good now. Better. Much, much better now. 250 00:09:33,606 --> 00:09:37,235 Good. Rachel, when you shared your story 251 00:09:37,302 --> 00:09:40,213 about a pre-engagement hook up with a model, 252 00:09:40,246 --> 00:09:42,582 Kyle, you said in an interview, 253 00:09:42,649 --> 00:09:44,751 what kind of marriage are you setting yourself up for? 254 00:09:44,818 --> 00:09:46,186 Kyle! 255 00:09:46,219 --> 00:09:48,088 I cheated on you and guess what, 256 00:09:48,188 --> 00:09:50,056 I got a big diamond the next day. 257 00:09:50,123 --> 00:09:52,425 I mean, that's sort of setting the precedence, no? 258 00:09:52,492 --> 00:09:55,220 For diamonds. You cheat, you get diamonds. 259 00:09:55,253 --> 00:09:56,421 No! 260 00:09:56,488 --> 00:09:59,365 But here's the thing, I met him when I was 19. 261 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:01,000 That's a long time. 262 00:10:01,067 --> 00:10:03,369 For me to have made out with one guy 263 00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:05,171 in the span of 34 years. 264 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:07,006 Oh, I thought you had sex with somebody. 265 00:10:07,073 --> 00:10:08,308 Girl! Now you're just spreading rumors. 266 00:10:08,374 --> 00:10:10,810 No, I said we fooled around. 267 00:10:10,910 --> 00:10:12,779 Oh, I thought sex. That's why I was like, wow. 268 00:10:12,879 --> 00:10:14,272 Well, I was wrong. 269 00:10:14,339 --> 00:10:16,783 No, that would've been a whole different conversation. 270 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:20,320 Um... In happy news, uh... 271 00:10:20,386 --> 00:10:22,889 you were recently photographed on a red carpet with... 272 00:10:22,956 --> 00:10:24,424 Oh, my God. 273 00:10:24,457 --> 00:10:27,118 ...some guy called Sasha. Is that a thing? 274 00:10:27,185 --> 00:10:29,028 Do you have something to tell me? 275 00:10:29,095 --> 00:10:30,597 - I'm hot. - What'd she say? 276 00:10:30,663 --> 00:10:31,756 It was a friend. 277 00:10:31,789 --> 00:10:33,199 Kim from Cincinnati said, 278 00:10:33,266 --> 00:10:36,461 "Wait, is Rachel dating a life coach who sells 279 00:10:36,528 --> 00:10:38,705 online courses like Amanda?" 280 00:10:38,805 --> 00:10:40,098 I would die. 281 00:10:50,183 --> 00:10:51,718 Kim from Cincinnati said, 282 00:10:51,751 --> 00:10:54,721 "Wait, is Rachel dating a life coach 283 00:10:54,787 --> 00:10:57,649 who sells online courses like Amanda?" 284 00:10:57,715 --> 00:10:59,984 I would die. Is that what he does? 285 00:11:00,051 --> 00:11:02,328 He's... he's more of a um... 286 00:11:03,229 --> 00:11:04,164 um... 287 00:11:04,197 --> 00:11:07,600 [laughs] um... 288 00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:11,571 it's more of like a mind-body alignment basically. 289 00:11:11,638 --> 00:11:13,039 Alignment? 290 00:11:13,106 --> 00:11:17,335 Basically getting people back to a place of you know, 291 00:11:17,435 --> 00:11:19,979 center, forgiveness, things like that. I'm not a client. 292 00:11:20,079 --> 00:11:21,681 - He's a friend. - Okay. 293 00:11:21,714 --> 00:11:23,766 You do know how many times you said he's a friend? 294 00:11:23,833 --> 00:11:26,085 A very good-looking, tall friend. 295 00:11:26,152 --> 00:11:28,446 Okay. All right. Well, I'm gonna move on. 296 00:11:28,479 --> 00:11:30,290 With a husband in prison 297 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:32,525 and a $25 million lawsuit on the horizon. 298 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:33,776 Who are we talking about? 299 00:11:33,843 --> 00:11:35,161 [laughs] 300 00:11:35,261 --> 00:11:37,397 The past few years have given Erika 301 00:11:37,463 --> 00:11:39,282 - a million different reasons... - What the fuck! 302 00:11:39,349 --> 00:11:41,818 - Wow! - ...to keep her walls up. 303 00:11:41,851 --> 00:11:43,803 Sorry for that transition. 304 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:45,296 I'm glad I am laughing at this. 305 00:11:45,363 --> 00:11:48,875 But after decades of walking on thin ice with Tom, 306 00:11:48,908 --> 00:11:53,413 a new gentleman in Erika's life, melted this ice queen's heart. 307 00:11:53,446 --> 00:11:55,582 - Jesus Christ. - Watch. 308 00:11:55,615 --> 00:11:57,041 - Okay, Erika. - Yeah? 309 00:11:57,108 --> 00:11:59,118 Who is this guy, the picture 310 00:11:59,185 --> 00:12:01,504 that the paparazzi caught you with the other days? 311 00:12:01,537 --> 00:12:02,714 [laughs] 312 00:12:02,814 --> 00:12:04,424 What stood out most in those pictures 313 00:12:04,457 --> 00:12:06,726 was the fact that Erika had not a stitch of makeup, 314 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:11,397 she was dressed totally down, and the guy was wearing Crocs. 315 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:17,161 When I saw that picture, I thought, she's so comfortable. 316 00:12:17,228 --> 00:12:18,705 Yeah, you looked very comfortable. 317 00:12:18,771 --> 00:12:20,640 And I felt like you felt safe with him. 318 00:12:20,673 --> 00:12:22,175 Yeah, there was no guard up. 319 00:12:22,275 --> 00:12:24,477 Erika, have you ever felt 320 00:12:24,510 --> 00:12:26,571 like you didn't have to have your guard up? 321 00:12:26,671 --> 00:12:28,982 Not in a long time. 322 00:12:29,048 --> 00:12:32,977 I know that you're so over everything with Tom. 323 00:12:33,044 --> 00:12:35,254 Oh, I'm not over that. 324 00:12:35,847 --> 00:12:37,123 Yeah, I'm heartbroken. 325 00:12:37,190 --> 00:12:38,841 Uh-huh. 326 00:12:38,908 --> 00:12:40,343 Knowing he's gonna die in prison. 327 00:12:40,410 --> 00:12:42,228 - Right. - That's heavy. 328 00:12:42,328 --> 00:12:46,099 Certainly, Tom's story is ending. 329 00:12:46,566 --> 00:12:47,700 Mine is still ongoing. 330 00:12:47,767 --> 00:12:50,161 I saw this thing about Erika and I've texted her. 331 00:12:50,228 --> 00:12:51,371 I'm worried about her. 332 00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:54,599 It's Erika Jayne headed to trial over $25 million 333 00:12:54,699 --> 00:12:56,893 spent during Tom Girardi's marriage. 334 00:12:56,926 --> 00:12:58,244 Wait, wait, I don't understand. 335 00:12:58,311 --> 00:13:00,063 She's headed to trial. What do they think 336 00:13:00,096 --> 00:13:02,282 they're gonna get $25 million from her back? 337 00:13:02,315 --> 00:13:05,535 I wanted to talk to you about the black eye I saw. 338 00:13:06,269 --> 00:13:09,747 I wanted you to know I went through this too. 339 00:13:10,348 --> 00:13:11,691 [gasps] 340 00:13:11,724 --> 00:13:13,918 There's a lot of shame around that, 341 00:13:14,018 --> 00:13:16,788 getting hit, or choked, or kicked. 342 00:13:16,854 --> 00:13:18,231 [sobbing] 343 00:13:18,298 --> 00:13:20,892 What happened to you, 344 00:13:20,925 --> 00:13:24,771 you were very lucky that you survived. 345 00:13:24,837 --> 00:13:27,390 And by speaking about it, 346 00:13:27,457 --> 00:13:30,927 that's the first step in letting go of it. 347 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,579 Are you sure I did the right thing? 348 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:35,848 I'm 100 percent positive. 349 00:13:35,915 --> 00:13:37,417 You sure? 350 00:13:37,517 --> 00:13:39,485 Yeah. I know it for sure. 351 00:13:39,552 --> 00:13:40,887 Okay. 352 00:13:40,953 --> 00:13:42,780 [sniffles] 353 00:13:43,915 --> 00:13:45,258 All right. 354 00:13:45,358 --> 00:13:46,526 Oh, that's hard. 355 00:13:46,592 --> 00:13:47,652 Oof, that's heavy. 356 00:13:47,752 --> 00:13:50,430 Erika, I want to start by saying first, 357 00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:54,033 how sorry and sad I am that you had to go through 358 00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:55,760 such a horrible experience. 359 00:13:55,827 --> 00:13:58,996 I also want to acknowledge how brave it was of you 360 00:13:59,097 --> 00:14:01,766 to share your story so publicly. 361 00:14:02,266 --> 00:14:05,311 Why did you feel like you wanted to share that? 362 00:14:05,378 --> 00:14:07,680 Well, I'd held it for a long time. 363 00:14:08,581 --> 00:14:11,017 And had Denise not said anything, 364 00:14:11,117 --> 00:14:12,477 I probably wouldn't have said anything either. 365 00:14:12,577 --> 00:14:16,347 Mm-hmm. What has the reaction been like from viewers? 366 00:14:16,447 --> 00:14:18,925 The one silver lining has been very positive. 367 00:14:18,991 --> 00:14:20,585 Thank you for coming forward. 368 00:14:20,651 --> 00:14:22,920 I, too, have had this experience. 369 00:14:22,987 --> 00:14:24,597 And I think you know, 370 00:14:24,630 --> 00:14:27,133 no one should have that experience 371 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,260 but it's much more common than we know. 372 00:14:29,694 --> 00:14:31,671 How did you get out of the relationship, 373 00:14:31,738 --> 00:14:33,773 - if you don't mind me asking? - I called the cops. 374 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,108 - You called the cops. - Wow, Erika. 375 00:14:35,174 --> 00:14:36,275 Yeah, that's how you get out. 376 00:14:36,342 --> 00:14:38,002 You must have been so scared. 377 00:14:38,578 --> 00:14:39,946 Yeah, terrified. 378 00:14:40,012 --> 00:14:41,981 I gave this person a chance to leave. 379 00:14:42,081 --> 00:14:43,750 They did not. 380 00:14:44,450 --> 00:14:49,055 And I was like fuck no man, okay, I have to call 911. 381 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:52,925 So, after this aired, 382 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:54,719 you didn't hear from this person? 383 00:14:54,786 --> 00:14:56,763 No. No. 384 00:14:56,829 --> 00:14:58,431 Were you worried about that? 385 00:14:58,498 --> 00:15:02,068 It definitely occurred. I thought, how do I say this? 386 00:15:03,202 --> 00:15:04,729 You don't know what someone will do. 387 00:15:04,829 --> 00:15:07,039 You know, you just don't know. 388 00:15:07,140 --> 00:15:10,076 And if they've shown you a certain pattern of behavior, 389 00:15:10,176 --> 00:15:12,303 who's to say that it won't escalate? 390 00:15:12,370 --> 00:15:15,406 So, it definitely was a concern of mine. 391 00:15:15,506 --> 00:15:16,666 You had said in the therapy session 392 00:15:16,732 --> 00:15:18,534 that your mom didn't know about the abuse. 393 00:15:18,568 --> 00:15:21,879 Did you talk to her before the show aired? 394 00:15:22,288 --> 00:15:23,422 No. 395 00:15:23,523 --> 00:15:24,791 [gasps] 396 00:15:24,824 --> 00:15:25,817 Um... 397 00:15:25,883 --> 00:15:27,693 My mother... 398 00:15:28,461 --> 00:15:32,331 Mom, you're the most clutch mother ever. 399 00:15:32,398 --> 00:15:35,259 My mom is terrible at every day shit, 400 00:15:35,359 --> 00:15:37,103 she shows up in crisis like no other. 401 00:15:37,170 --> 00:15:38,337 Thank you, Mommy. 402 00:15:38,371 --> 00:15:40,473 How did she show up for you? 403 00:15:40,540 --> 00:15:43,209 She texted me, she said Erika, I'm so sorry. 404 00:15:43,276 --> 00:15:44,769 I am so sorry for you. 405 00:15:44,836 --> 00:15:47,647 And she did not chastise me, 406 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:48,881 why didn't you come to me? 407 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:50,441 How could you not say anything? 408 00:15:50,541 --> 00:15:52,869 She was so cool and so loving, 409 00:15:52,935 --> 00:15:55,121 and I just cannot thank her enough for that. 410 00:15:55,154 --> 00:15:57,882 Who in the circle knew about this? 411 00:15:57,949 --> 00:16:01,027 The three of us were gonna go on a trip. 412 00:16:01,060 --> 00:16:02,620 They were supposed to come to Aspen with me. 413 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,748 We were supposed to leave that day. 414 00:16:05,781 --> 00:16:07,550 We couldn't leave at the right time 415 00:16:07,617 --> 00:16:10,052 and I panicked. 416 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:12,797 And I said, I need to leave town. 417 00:16:12,897 --> 00:16:14,974 And I told them why. 418 00:16:15,074 --> 00:16:16,742 And I want to say, 419 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:18,344 you and I spoke privately, and you go, 420 00:16:18,377 --> 00:16:19,712 Erika, why didn't you say anything? 421 00:16:19,779 --> 00:16:21,906 And I said, Andy, the level of shame. 422 00:16:21,973 --> 00:16:24,600 The level of shame that comes with this. 423 00:16:24,634 --> 00:16:28,554 But you know what I realized, through this DV shame, 424 00:16:28,621 --> 00:16:31,290 it also brought up a whole lot of other shame. 425 00:16:31,357 --> 00:16:32,458 Shame about Tom. 426 00:16:32,558 --> 00:16:35,428 You know, I walked on ice a lot with Tom. 427 00:16:35,494 --> 00:16:37,079 Like looking back at it, 428 00:16:37,146 --> 00:16:38,631 you know, it was always the nice. 429 00:16:38,731 --> 00:16:40,825 It was constantly an interrogation. 430 00:16:40,925 --> 00:16:43,102 It was constantly you know... 431 00:16:43,202 --> 00:16:45,671 - Don't say the wrong thing. - ...a battle, you know. 432 00:16:45,738 --> 00:16:49,342 Do you think he was emotionally abusive to you, Tom? 433 00:16:50,660 --> 00:16:51,844 Yeah. 434 00:16:53,346 --> 00:16:55,273 And financially abusive. 435 00:16:55,907 --> 00:17:00,486 And you know, Tom one time did not talk to me 436 00:17:00,553 --> 00:17:01,746 for six weeks. 437 00:17:01,812 --> 00:17:03,689 - Jesus. - That's... 438 00:17:03,723 --> 00:17:05,458 And we lived in the same house. 439 00:17:05,558 --> 00:17:07,260 That's crazy. 440 00:17:07,293 --> 00:17:10,029 - That's insane. - That's such emotional abuse. 441 00:17:10,062 --> 00:17:12,790 - You know, as sweet as Tom could be is as vicious 442 00:17:12,857 --> 00:17:14,166 as Tom could be. 443 00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:18,095 Were you nervous about appearing on camera with him? 444 00:17:18,162 --> 00:17:19,455 Oh fuck yes. 445 00:17:20,306 --> 00:17:21,407 You were? 446 00:17:21,474 --> 00:17:23,793 Yes, because what if I said the wrong thing? 447 00:17:24,277 --> 00:17:25,828 - Right. - Mm-hmm. 448 00:17:25,861 --> 00:17:28,631 But he never thought I'd get on this show. 449 00:17:28,698 --> 00:17:30,875 I remember him telling me after my first interview, 450 00:17:30,975 --> 00:17:31,984 "You're not gonna get this job." 451 00:17:32,084 --> 00:17:33,119 Oh, that's nice. 452 00:17:33,185 --> 00:17:35,112 And then oh you know, I got the job. 453 00:17:35,179 --> 00:17:36,447 What an ass. 454 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,641 I know. He was kind of like, "You got the job." 455 00:17:38,708 --> 00:17:41,010 Well, he's not gonna tell me no. 456 00:17:41,043 --> 00:17:45,231 You know? So, I came on the cast. 457 00:17:45,598 --> 00:17:50,236 When I think back about your first few seasons on this show, 458 00:17:50,336 --> 00:17:53,472 he would come around when you were performing, 459 00:17:53,539 --> 00:17:57,994 and he would play this part of this like, proud husband. 460 00:17:58,060 --> 00:17:59,578 Starry-eyed husband, yeah. 461 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:03,349 [cheering] 462 00:18:03,449 --> 00:18:05,201 - I was really proud of you. - Were you? 463 00:18:05,234 --> 00:18:06,544 - Yeah. - Thank you. Thank you. 464 00:18:06,644 --> 00:18:07,812 - That was cool. - I appreciate that. 465 00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:09,288 You know how many times I've wondered 466 00:18:09,355 --> 00:18:10,690 how much of that was an act? 467 00:18:10,756 --> 00:18:13,084 - Oh. - In the moment did you wonder? 468 00:18:13,184 --> 00:18:15,261 You know, you want to believe 469 00:18:15,294 --> 00:18:18,130 that your partner loves and supports you. 470 00:18:18,164 --> 00:18:20,891 But you know when it was fucked up? 471 00:18:20,992 --> 00:18:23,060 Which, it's very obvious. When you said to me, 472 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,338 I didn't like it that Tom didn't come see you on Broadway. 473 00:18:25,404 --> 00:18:27,707 - Yeah, I didn't. - Like, how could you miss that? 474 00:18:27,807 --> 00:18:30,076 - Yeah. - He also did not read my book. 475 00:18:30,176 --> 00:18:31,811 - I remember. - Oh, no! 476 00:18:31,877 --> 00:18:34,146 And by the way, you were cleaning up that mess 477 00:18:34,180 --> 00:18:37,942 on the couch, and I was saying to you, "I think that's weird." 478 00:18:38,009 --> 00:18:39,685 And you were like, "Do you?" 479 00:18:39,752 --> 00:18:41,087 What does Tom think? 480 00:18:41,153 --> 00:18:43,055 He hasn't read it either. No one's read it. 481 00:18:43,155 --> 00:18:45,191 No one's read it, in my family. 482 00:18:45,224 --> 00:18:48,119 - I think that's weird. - Yeah? What's weird about it? 483 00:18:48,219 --> 00:18:50,296 Well, I was riding for him very hard. 484 00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:51,055 Yeah. 485 00:18:51,088 --> 00:18:52,915 Having that hindsight 486 00:18:52,948 --> 00:18:55,501 in being able to look at it, you know, I was, 487 00:18:55,568 --> 00:19:00,564 you know I was in the Tom Girardi influence. 488 00:19:01,365 --> 00:19:04,702 You told Sutton that you don't believe that visiting Tom 489 00:19:04,769 --> 00:19:05,745 will give you closure. 490 00:19:05,845 --> 00:19:07,146 No, I do not. 491 00:19:07,246 --> 00:19:09,348 Especially since he may not even remember who you are. 492 00:19:09,849 --> 00:19:13,152 If there was one question that you could ask him... 493 00:19:14,303 --> 00:19:15,946 what would it be? 494 00:19:16,555 --> 00:19:20,284 [pensive music] 495 00:19:31,771 --> 00:19:34,807 You told Sutton that you don't believe that visiting Tom 496 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,300 will give you closure. 497 00:19:36,333 --> 00:19:37,576 No, I do not. 498 00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:40,404 Especially since he may not even remember who you are. 499 00:19:40,471 --> 00:19:42,982 If there was one question that you could ask him... 500 00:19:43,082 --> 00:19:44,517 what would it be? 501 00:19:44,583 --> 00:19:47,845 [pensive music] 502 00:19:47,912 --> 00:19:49,980 Wow, that's a good question. 503 00:19:52,058 --> 00:19:53,359 Why? 504 00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:55,861 Why? 505 00:19:56,762 --> 00:19:58,030 Why... 506 00:19:58,789 --> 00:20:01,367 did you throw me out like that? 507 00:20:03,135 --> 00:20:04,662 You know? 508 00:20:05,129 --> 00:20:07,273 'Cause if you think about it, 509 00:20:07,339 --> 00:20:09,200 I'm in an almost impossible situation. 510 00:20:09,266 --> 00:20:10,501 Mm-hmm. 511 00:20:10,534 --> 00:20:13,446 I'm swimming under all of these lawsuits. 512 00:20:13,479 --> 00:20:16,215 And the $26 million thing has been for years. 513 00:20:16,315 --> 00:20:18,017 They sued me for that right away. 514 00:20:18,117 --> 00:20:20,177 - And that's coming up. - Yeah. 515 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,224 Worst possible case, you get found that you owe somebody 516 00:20:25,291 --> 00:20:28,094 $25 million. What the hell do you do then? 517 00:20:28,127 --> 00:20:29,895 - Claim bankruptcy. - File for bankruptcy? 518 00:20:29,995 --> 00:20:31,222 You can file for bankruptcy 519 00:20:31,322 --> 00:20:33,466 or you can fight it out in court. And you can... 520 00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:34,859 Duke it out. 521 00:20:34,892 --> 00:20:37,736 You know, you can go to trial. You can cut a deal. 522 00:20:37,837 --> 00:20:41,440 You can die in the streets. I have no idea. 523 00:20:41,474 --> 00:20:46,512 Dorit, in Italy, you questioned whether Erika 524 00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:50,683 was actually going through a fuck ton. 525 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:52,418 She's going through a fuck ton. 526 00:20:52,518 --> 00:20:53,986 We're all going through a fuck ton, Rachel. 527 00:20:54,019 --> 00:20:55,020 I agree with that. 528 00:20:55,054 --> 00:20:56,714 You're going through a fuck ton? 529 00:20:58,090 --> 00:21:02,361 Surely you knew that she was going through stuff, 530 00:21:02,394 --> 00:21:03,921 so what did you mean by that? 531 00:21:03,988 --> 00:21:06,999 So, you know, first of all, 532 00:21:07,032 --> 00:21:09,935 when I was in Italy, I had a lot on my mind. 533 00:21:10,636 --> 00:21:12,838 We had been talking a lot 534 00:21:12,905 --> 00:21:14,373 the three weeks leading up to Italy. 535 00:21:14,406 --> 00:21:17,543 And there was no mention of the trial coming up. 536 00:21:17,576 --> 00:21:21,313 In fact, the first time I heard it was in the Hamptons, 537 00:21:21,347 --> 00:21:23,749 when Rachel saw it in the tabloids. 538 00:21:23,849 --> 00:21:26,418 Erika and I never spoke about it. 539 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:28,487 So, that was not even the top of my mind. 540 00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:30,422 If I'm not having the conversation, 541 00:21:30,523 --> 00:21:32,041 I'm not thinking about it. 542 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:34,593 Your reaction was? 543 00:21:34,627 --> 00:21:36,128 On the one hand, I can see why. 544 00:21:36,228 --> 00:21:38,864 She's got her own problem and she's very self-involved. 545 00:21:38,898 --> 00:21:40,533 On the other hand, 546 00:21:40,599 --> 00:21:42,526 I've been talking about this shit for six years. 547 00:21:42,593 --> 00:21:44,136 Not really. 548 00:21:44,236 --> 00:21:45,462 Yeah, I've been going through it. 549 00:21:45,563 --> 00:21:47,740 This case has been around a long time. 550 00:21:47,773 --> 00:21:50,034 But I also don't expect you to be keeping up with every 551 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:51,076 fucking thing I'm doing. 552 00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:52,545 That's what I mean. 553 00:21:52,611 --> 00:21:53,971 However, we have talked about. 554 00:21:54,038 --> 00:21:55,848 And whether we talked about it five months ago 555 00:21:55,881 --> 00:21:57,750 or two years ago, 556 00:21:57,816 --> 00:21:58,818 we're close. 557 00:21:58,884 --> 00:22:01,237 - Yeah. No, I know. - That's why it hurts. 558 00:22:01,912 --> 00:22:03,589 I love you 559 00:22:03,689 --> 00:22:05,925 and I'm scared for you. 560 00:22:06,425 --> 00:22:09,094 I don't want to overload my friends all the time. 561 00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:11,589 Well, I'm sorry you're going through it. 562 00:22:11,655 --> 00:22:13,432 But we also shouldn't have to mention it 563 00:22:13,465 --> 00:22:15,701 all the time to have our friends be sympathetic. 564 00:22:15,734 --> 00:22:16,961 Right. 565 00:22:18,429 --> 00:22:21,507 We're all going through stuff. 566 00:22:21,607 --> 00:22:24,468 Um, so Kyle, you said Dorit 567 00:22:24,501 --> 00:22:26,779 never once asked about how you're doing this year. 568 00:22:26,812 --> 00:22:30,140 Ladies, does anyone feel like Dorit 569 00:22:30,174 --> 00:22:32,418 took time to ask about their lives 570 00:22:32,484 --> 00:22:35,145 or was she in her own moment? 571 00:22:35,179 --> 00:22:38,457 Well, I clearly say yeah. 572 00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:40,292 That I didn't ask Kyle how... 573 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,161 No, me. He just asked... 574 00:22:42,261 --> 00:22:45,114 Well, so you know, Kyle doesn't talk about her life. 575 00:22:45,798 --> 00:22:48,100 That's not... Dorit, I listen. 576 00:22:48,167 --> 00:22:49,760 Doesn't talk about it with me. 577 00:22:49,827 --> 00:22:51,495 I don't talk about my separation as much as you. 578 00:22:51,528 --> 00:22:53,197 But I'm also not asked. 579 00:22:53,264 --> 00:22:55,975 I have had stuff going on too and I do feel that you... 580 00:22:56,041 --> 00:22:58,477 are so wrapped up in your own situation 581 00:22:58,577 --> 00:22:59,945 that you're not realizing 582 00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:01,780 that other people are going through a lot of stuff too. 583 00:23:01,814 --> 00:23:03,716 Boz is going through the fertility. 584 00:23:03,816 --> 00:23:05,618 And what Erika's going through, and Sutton. 585 00:23:05,718 --> 00:23:07,186 - And everybody here. - Sorry. 586 00:23:07,286 --> 00:23:09,421 Sorry, sorry, Boz. Please. 587 00:23:09,455 --> 00:23:11,790 I don't think I was part of the question. 588 00:23:11,857 --> 00:23:14,652 No, she said everyone has something going on. 589 00:23:14,718 --> 00:23:16,262 (all speaking) 590 00:23:16,328 --> 00:23:18,530 You're suggesting that I don't care. 591 00:23:18,564 --> 00:23:21,725 Trust me, I'm not suggesting that you don't care about Boz. 592 00:23:21,825 --> 00:23:24,495 I'm saying we all have stuff. 593 00:23:24,561 --> 00:23:27,364 Kyle, I'm a very, very empathetic person. 594 00:23:27,398 --> 00:23:29,808 In fact, I don't think there's a single person here 595 00:23:29,842 --> 00:23:31,402 that would suggest 596 00:23:31,502 --> 00:23:33,804 that I wouldn't be interested or care 597 00:23:33,871 --> 00:23:35,648 about things that other people are going through. 598 00:23:36,215 --> 00:23:38,550 So, I resent that, number one. 599 00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:40,252 I have always thought that about you. 600 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:42,421 What you're going through right now has made you less like that. 601 00:23:42,488 --> 00:23:46,158 I know that everyone has stuff going on in their lives. 602 00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:50,095 And my point was I think that you are so 603 00:23:50,195 --> 00:23:51,764 in the zone with your issues 604 00:23:51,864 --> 00:23:53,198 that you're not thinking about that with other people. 605 00:23:53,299 --> 00:23:55,567 Right, and I'm telling you, you're wrong. 606 00:23:55,668 --> 00:23:57,202 Okay. 607 00:23:57,236 --> 00:24:00,439 This year, as I have said multiple times. Again. 608 00:24:00,506 --> 00:24:02,007 Yes, I know, you were going through it. Yes. 609 00:24:02,041 --> 00:24:03,108 Okay, so I was overwhelmed. 610 00:24:03,208 --> 00:24:05,402 - Yes. - But when I got to Italy... 611 00:24:05,436 --> 00:24:07,046 - Yes. - I'm going through it. 612 00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:08,714 ...it was a different ball game. 613 00:24:08,747 --> 00:24:09,940 Okay, I want to bring it back 614 00:24:10,007 --> 00:24:11,608 to our current relationship. 615 00:24:11,709 --> 00:24:12,785 It's been how long? 616 00:24:12,885 --> 00:24:15,179 Since June, July. Like, nine months. 617 00:24:15,245 --> 00:24:16,388 - Nine months. - Yeah. Yeah. 618 00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:18,223 - That's great. - Thank you. 619 00:24:18,324 --> 00:24:20,292 How are things going in the relationship? 620 00:24:20,392 --> 00:24:22,086 - It's nice. Thank you so much. - It's good. 621 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,529 - Has your son met him? - Yes. 622 00:24:23,595 --> 00:24:25,230 And what does your son think? 623 00:24:25,264 --> 00:24:27,466 Oh, my God, you're talking to like the ultimate G.I. Joe. 624 00:24:27,566 --> 00:24:29,526 My son's probably more in love with this man 625 00:24:29,593 --> 00:24:31,061 than I could ever be. 626 00:24:31,128 --> 00:24:32,229 Wow! 627 00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:34,373 Let's call him G.I. John instead of Joe. 628 00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:36,041 - Right. - G.I. John. 629 00:24:36,108 --> 00:24:37,743 - G.I. John. - That's a good nickname. 630 00:24:37,843 --> 00:24:39,311 That's funny. 631 00:24:39,378 --> 00:24:43,582 How has what's happened to you impacted who you are 632 00:24:43,615 --> 00:24:45,417 in your current relationship? 633 00:24:45,451 --> 00:24:48,078 I really enjoy the man that I'm dating. 634 00:24:48,145 --> 00:24:50,923 And so, I don't have those same concerns. 635 00:24:51,023 --> 00:24:52,157 You feel safe. 636 00:24:52,224 --> 00:24:53,759 - I do. - You feel safe. 637 00:24:53,792 --> 00:24:57,388 - Things seem to be going well. - Day by day. Day by day. 638 00:24:57,454 --> 00:24:59,123 We're gonna leave it there. We'll be right back. 639 00:24:59,156 --> 00:25:02,201 I need everyone to stand off, please. We gotta go. 640 00:25:02,234 --> 00:25:03,669 We got an hour. 641 00:25:06,772 --> 00:25:08,799 Dorit did I give you that make up kit for you, 642 00:25:08,832 --> 00:25:10,968 that Chanel cosmetic bag? 643 00:25:11,001 --> 00:25:13,303 - You sure did. - Thought so. 644 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:16,315 That's how much you've meant to me. 645 00:25:16,415 --> 00:25:17,983 Same. 646 00:25:18,083 --> 00:25:19,768 [scoffs] 647 00:25:20,844 --> 00:25:23,313 What... is, is happening? 648 00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:26,650 You get what you give. 649 00:25:26,683 --> 00:25:28,777 Some weird shit, Erika. 650 00:25:29,661 --> 00:25:30,687 Coming up. 651 00:25:30,788 --> 00:25:33,432 I can afford to spend $4,000. 652 00:25:33,465 --> 00:25:35,601 Being judged, especially from you, 653 00:25:35,634 --> 00:25:36,935 out of all people. 654 00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:39,438 By the way, I'm not in the same financial position as you. 655 00:25:39,505 --> 00:25:40,406 I'm sorry. 656 00:25:40,439 --> 00:25:41,540 [scoffs] 657 00:25:45,077 --> 00:25:46,111 We are back with 658 00:25:46,178 --> 00:25:48,013 The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. 659 00:25:48,047 --> 00:25:52,151 Last year, Dorit iconically dragged a cigarette, 660 00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:55,754 but this season, her friends warned her against dragging PK 661 00:25:55,854 --> 00:25:57,656 too hard in public. 662 00:25:57,689 --> 00:26:00,592 And as Dorit sought to be unburdened financially 663 00:26:00,692 --> 00:26:03,028 via an exciting new book deal, 664 00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:05,931 she couldn't help but feel like Kyle was reading 665 00:26:06,031 --> 00:26:09,034 right from PK's playbook. Watch this. 666 00:26:09,101 --> 00:26:12,871 When I saw PK kissing that Shein version of Dorit, 667 00:26:12,938 --> 00:26:15,566 first I rolled my eyes. 668 00:26:15,632 --> 00:26:17,142 - Then I threw up a little. - Ha! 669 00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,311 The next day, you filed. 670 00:26:19,378 --> 00:26:21,046 - It was that day. - Girl! 671 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,681 You know, I'm hearing like, completely opposite 672 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:25,517 like in, Dorit is putting him through a really hard time. 673 00:26:25,551 --> 00:26:27,086 Making it hard for him to see the kids. 674 00:26:27,152 --> 00:26:28,320 [scoffs] 675 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:29,621 Last year she was saying things 676 00:26:29,688 --> 00:26:31,256 that you know, obviously came out. 677 00:26:31,323 --> 00:26:32,891 How he's parenting, and things like that. 678 00:26:32,925 --> 00:26:34,827 - That makes me nervous. - Adding fuel to the fire. 679 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:36,094 She's adding fuel to the fire. 680 00:26:36,195 --> 00:26:38,055 I just don't think it's smart to be speaking 681 00:26:38,088 --> 00:26:41,600 so negatively about your ex so publicly. 682 00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:43,635 It's going to make your divorce down the line 683 00:26:43,735 --> 00:26:45,137 much more difficult. 684 00:26:45,204 --> 00:26:47,606 Do you remember... 685 00:26:49,741 --> 00:26:52,377 ...when you and I had dinner and I said to you, 686 00:26:52,411 --> 00:26:53,979 I don't think it's a good idea 687 00:26:54,046 --> 00:26:55,547 to bash the father of your children. 688 00:26:55,581 --> 00:26:57,015 Why do you think I said that? 689 00:26:57,082 --> 00:27:00,118 Do I remember that? I can remember... 690 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:03,847 I think when it comes to anything about this divorce 691 00:27:03,914 --> 00:27:05,157 between Dorit and PK, 692 00:27:05,224 --> 00:27:07,559 Kyle should just be quiet because there's no winning here. 693 00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:09,595 - Is he protecting me? - I don't what PK's doing. 694 00:27:09,661 --> 00:27:11,130 - I only care about you. - You know exactly 695 00:27:11,230 --> 00:27:12,831 what PK's doing, Kyle, because you speak to Mau 696 00:27:12,931 --> 00:27:16,602 and Mau speaks to PK. What you have kicked up and started 697 00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:20,305 is what's really going to come back and kick me in the ass. 698 00:27:20,372 --> 00:27:21,974 Grow up, Dorit. 699 00:27:23,942 --> 00:27:26,470 Okay, so Dorit, you said that what Kyle is doing 700 00:27:26,537 --> 00:27:29,581 is going to come back and bite you in the ass. 701 00:27:29,615 --> 00:27:30,849 - Yes. - Has that happened? 702 00:27:30,916 --> 00:27:32,551 - Oh yeah. - In what way? 703 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:35,154 Well, PK was sending me, 704 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:38,156 clearly Kyle was relaying information to Mau 705 00:27:38,223 --> 00:27:40,792 about me in the season and PK was 706 00:27:40,859 --> 00:27:43,829 taunting me towards the end of the season saying, 707 00:27:43,896 --> 00:27:48,333 "Apparently you're not doing so well. Apparently..." 708 00:27:48,433 --> 00:27:49,868 I didn't say anything about that. 709 00:27:49,968 --> 00:27:53,839 Oh, he just, I mean PK just poof, got it out of the sky? 710 00:27:53,906 --> 00:27:55,040 He's a psychic. 711 00:27:55,107 --> 00:27:56,508 No. Someone's saying something. It's not me. 712 00:27:56,575 --> 00:27:59,169 So, you can't keep saying things that you just assume. 713 00:27:59,236 --> 00:28:01,513 It's more than that. I can tell you, listen... 714 00:28:01,613 --> 00:28:02,848 So sick of defending my character. 715 00:28:02,915 --> 00:28:05,117 You know, for somebody who's so concerned, 716 00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:07,844 if she doesn't realize 717 00:28:07,911 --> 00:28:11,456 that suggesting that I am erratic, 718 00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:14,126 that I'm not myself, not once thinking 719 00:28:14,159 --> 00:28:17,296 she's in an acrimonious divorce. I'm not in your situation. 720 00:28:17,329 --> 00:28:18,463 I filed for divorce. 721 00:28:18,564 --> 00:28:20,190 Telling me, you told me once in private-- 722 00:28:20,257 --> 00:28:21,967 That's why I was telling you don't fuel the fire. 723 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,969 So then why do you think fueling the fire 724 00:28:24,002 --> 00:28:25,904 by suggesting that I am erratic? 725 00:28:25,971 --> 00:28:27,998 By making sure that it's in public. 726 00:28:28,031 --> 00:28:29,808 I already said that was the wrong choice of words. 727 00:28:29,841 --> 00:28:31,410 Which, he's gonna hear this too. 728 00:28:31,476 --> 00:28:33,078 Kyle, making it a storyline. 729 00:28:33,145 --> 00:28:34,479 Yeah, and you what you didn't see? 730 00:28:34,513 --> 00:28:36,648 Is that they were having that conversation with me 731 00:28:36,682 --> 00:28:38,675 as well, and that part wasn't shown. 732 00:28:38,709 --> 00:28:40,385 You missed it last night. 733 00:28:40,452 --> 00:28:44,022 I lost Dorit, I'm not kidding, for like, 45 minutes. 734 00:28:44,089 --> 00:28:45,215 Where did you find her? 735 00:28:45,282 --> 00:28:47,025 She was in the fucking smoking section outside. 736 00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:48,860 [laughs] But here's the thing, 737 00:28:48,927 --> 00:28:51,263 had I known there was a smoking section, 738 00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:52,831 that would have been the first place I looked. 739 00:28:52,931 --> 00:28:54,533 She disappears sometimes. 740 00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:57,135 But like, you can't do that. I had a fucking heart attack. 741 00:28:57,236 --> 00:28:58,537 Like, you can't do that. 742 00:28:58,570 --> 00:29:00,472 You keep saying this, so I'm gonna go 743 00:29:00,539 --> 00:29:01,873 to each and every one. Amanda, 744 00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:04,843 did you go to Kyle and say, Dorit is acting erratic? 745 00:29:04,943 --> 00:29:07,045 Manic? Did you go to her? 746 00:29:07,112 --> 00:29:08,238 Well, no, she didn't say those. 747 00:29:08,305 --> 00:29:09,881 Okay, Sutton, did you go to Kyle? 748 00:29:09,948 --> 00:29:11,750 Dorit, that's not what I'm saying. 749 00:29:11,817 --> 00:29:14,144 So then stop saying, you didn't see them coming to me. 750 00:29:14,211 --> 00:29:16,154 I used my words that I already told you 751 00:29:16,254 --> 00:29:17,389 but you don't listen. 752 00:29:17,422 --> 00:29:18,357 Kyle, you don't realize. 753 00:29:18,457 --> 00:29:20,058 That I misspoke with that word. 754 00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:21,660 I also related it to my own experience. 755 00:29:21,727 --> 00:29:25,030 And I even said this, I even said this a number of times, 756 00:29:25,097 --> 00:29:29,701 I equated it to how I felt after my separation, that I was... 757 00:29:29,735 --> 00:29:32,838 I can tend to get OCD and you know, 758 00:29:32,938 --> 00:29:34,473 like all over the place. 759 00:29:34,573 --> 00:29:38,343 Like I mean, I get very ADHD and I'm not clear. 760 00:29:38,410 --> 00:29:41,546 And you know, maybe working out too much and not focused. 761 00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:42,981 And all over the place and scattered. 762 00:29:43,048 --> 00:29:44,916 That's what I meant. And it became this big, 763 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:46,410 huge thing that it shouldn't have been. 764 00:29:46,443 --> 00:29:48,120 - The word erratic-- - It became a big, huge thing, 765 00:29:48,186 --> 00:29:50,455 - Kyle because you went to each- - Because you made it. 766 00:29:50,555 --> 00:29:52,090 It's not that big of a fucking deal. 767 00:29:52,157 --> 00:29:53,759 I'll explain to you why it's a big deal. 768 00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:55,294 Boz talked about her financial concern. 769 00:29:55,394 --> 00:29:57,929 She came and she told me. Never mind. Leave Boz out of it. 770 00:29:57,996 --> 00:29:59,398 The point is this Kyle. 771 00:29:59,431 --> 00:30:01,400 You're trying to just focus on me and make me look bad. 772 00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:05,604 I wasn't saying anything gossipy or mean about you. 773 00:30:05,671 --> 00:30:07,306 These were mutual conversations. 774 00:30:07,372 --> 00:30:08,674 Okay, Kyle, do me a favor. 775 00:30:08,740 --> 00:30:10,242 Let's stick with one thing right now. 776 00:30:10,342 --> 00:30:12,135 - I am making one point. - Okay. 777 00:30:12,202 --> 00:30:16,748 I spent $4,000 in one of Rachel's friends' shops, 778 00:30:16,882 --> 00:30:18,717 that they cleared for us to shop. 779 00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:21,586 - Nobody bought anything but me. - Mm-hmm. 780 00:30:21,687 --> 00:30:24,723 I didn't want us to go into that shop and not buy anything. 781 00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:25,924 They had cute things. 782 00:30:25,991 --> 00:30:29,961 I can afford to spend $4,000. I'm very lucky to. 783 00:30:30,028 --> 00:30:31,396 Yes. 784 00:30:31,496 --> 00:30:34,766 Being judged by you, having you go and speak to the girls, 785 00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:37,502 the group about it's a lot of money she's spending. 786 00:30:37,569 --> 00:30:39,663 Kyle, especially from you, 787 00:30:39,730 --> 00:30:40,672 out of all people. 788 00:30:40,739 --> 00:30:42,240 Let me ask you a question. 789 00:30:42,341 --> 00:30:44,443 By the way, I'm not in the same financial position as you. 790 00:30:44,476 --> 00:30:45,344 I'm sorry. 791 00:30:45,410 --> 00:30:46,303 [scoffs] 792 00:30:47,346 --> 00:30:49,306 How do you know my financial position? 793 00:30:49,339 --> 00:30:51,583 Well, the house is being foreclosed on. 794 00:30:51,650 --> 00:30:54,453 Because you speak to Mau, and Mau speaks to PK? 795 00:30:54,553 --> 00:30:56,488 No, because it's... it was in the news. 796 00:30:57,322 --> 00:31:00,792 Okay, so I just really hope to God things stay 797 00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:02,160 amicable with you and Mau. I really do. 798 00:31:02,227 --> 00:31:04,062 And I hope to God nothing turns. 799 00:31:04,129 --> 00:31:05,163 Me too. 800 00:31:05,197 --> 00:31:06,656 But if and when it does, 801 00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:09,167 and you're dealing with what I have had to deal with, 802 00:31:09,234 --> 00:31:11,303 maybe, maybe, 803 00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:14,873 you'll find it difficult to sit in rooms 804 00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:17,542 and conversations when you're bursting at the seams, 805 00:31:17,609 --> 00:31:20,003 and you want to actually be talking to your girlfriends 806 00:31:20,036 --> 00:31:22,881 and have a little bit of support, only to have people 807 00:31:22,981 --> 00:31:25,817 either judging you, talking behind your back. 808 00:31:25,917 --> 00:31:27,652 Or suggesting, 809 00:31:27,719 --> 00:31:30,455 I don't Mau like that. I'm so surprised. 810 00:31:30,956 --> 00:31:34,192 Mimi from Dallas said it was disappointing 811 00:31:34,259 --> 00:31:37,496 to see Mau downplaying PK's drinking like it's no big deal. 812 00:31:37,529 --> 00:31:38,697 Oh my God. 813 00:31:38,764 --> 00:31:40,532 And even admitting that he drinks with him, 814 00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:42,067 that's called an enabler. 815 00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:45,504 I want him to be involved but he has to show up clear headed. 816 00:31:45,537 --> 00:31:47,205 He's always been clear headed. 817 00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:48,774 Mau, he started drinking again. 818 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,068 I go to dinner with him, he's ordering, you know, 819 00:31:52,135 --> 00:31:53,945 a glass of wine, maybe two. 820 00:31:54,012 --> 00:31:55,280 We're not sitting there pounding it. 821 00:31:55,347 --> 00:31:57,449 He didn't stop drinking for a year 822 00:31:57,549 --> 00:32:00,185 because just for a casual thing. 823 00:32:00,218 --> 00:32:03,889 He stopped drinking because he needed to stop drinking. 824 00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:06,007 There's always two sides to every story. 825 00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:08,226 That's such a guy thing. 826 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:09,928 - That's called guys. - That's such a bro thing. 827 00:32:10,028 --> 00:32:11,163 No, that's not called guys. 828 00:32:11,263 --> 00:32:12,664 That's what dudes do. 829 00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:14,332 He's not a babysitter. 830 00:32:14,432 --> 00:32:15,801 He came in as a soldier. 831 00:32:15,867 --> 00:32:18,570 Mau doesn't have a problem. 832 00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:21,773 And if Mau really, really, really cared about him... 833 00:32:22,340 --> 00:32:24,276 Mau would be saying to him, 834 00:32:24,342 --> 00:32:26,645 listen buddy, you know what, let's slow down. 835 00:32:26,745 --> 00:32:29,481 I've seen guys at their darkest point 836 00:32:29,548 --> 00:32:30,882 and none of their friends... 837 00:32:30,916 --> 00:32:33,343 Until they are literally on the ground. 838 00:32:33,443 --> 00:32:35,220 (all speaking) 839 00:32:35,253 --> 00:32:37,656 I wanna stick up for the men a little. 840 00:32:37,756 --> 00:32:40,192 - Sorry, I love men, Andy. - So do I. 841 00:32:40,258 --> 00:32:41,760 (laughing) 842 00:32:41,827 --> 00:32:45,263 Moving on to your finances, last year on this stage, 843 00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:48,400 we talked about the news that your home had gone into 844 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:49,960 pre-foreclosure. 845 00:32:50,026 --> 00:32:53,138 You said at the time that PK had resolved it. 846 00:32:53,238 --> 00:32:55,841 Yes. Or so I thought. By the way. 847 00:32:55,907 --> 00:32:58,777 However, just this week, there are new reports 848 00:32:58,844 --> 00:33:01,079 indicating the house is in trouble again, 849 00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:04,307 with a debt of over $800,000. 850 00:33:04,374 --> 00:33:06,418 - It is in pre-foreclosure. - It is? 851 00:33:06,484 --> 00:33:08,587 And PK hadn't been paying the mortgage. 852 00:33:08,620 --> 00:33:09,921 Could you downsize? 853 00:33:09,955 --> 00:33:12,457 It's not about staying in the house. 854 00:33:12,524 --> 00:33:13,859 Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. 855 00:33:13,925 --> 00:33:15,894 It's about I believed he was paying the mortgage. 856 00:33:15,961 --> 00:33:17,287 Oh, which is wrong, yes, 100 percent. 857 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,763 And so, I'm blindsided. 858 00:33:18,797 --> 00:33:21,825 Now, listen, it's my fault as well, because at this point 859 00:33:21,892 --> 00:33:24,035 I shouldn't trust or believe 860 00:33:24,102 --> 00:33:25,604 without checking, et cetera. 861 00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:27,497 Were you checking monthly that it was being paid? 862 00:33:27,564 --> 00:33:28,607 No. No. 863 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,676 PK is saying he's gonna bring the house current. 864 00:33:31,743 --> 00:33:34,504 Then I'm gonna put the house on the market 865 00:33:34,571 --> 00:33:36,181 and find a house for the kids and I. 866 00:33:36,248 --> 00:33:38,316 - This is the plan right now. - Thank you. 867 00:33:38,383 --> 00:33:39,951 - Okay. - But it could change. 868 00:33:40,085 --> 00:33:41,253 Okay. 869 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,588 Well, from what I've experienced, 870 00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:44,823 anything can change. 871 00:33:44,890 --> 00:33:46,850 Right, like maybe he doesn't bring the house current. 872 00:33:46,917 --> 00:33:48,643 But you need to get in a situation 873 00:33:48,677 --> 00:33:50,186 where you can be flexible. 874 00:33:50,253 --> 00:33:52,130 I know exactly what I have to do. 875 00:33:53,164 --> 00:33:56,801 Even before this news, people were shocked and concerned 876 00:33:56,868 --> 00:33:59,971 about your lack of knowledge about your finances. 877 00:34:00,105 --> 00:34:03,808 Yeah, I want to clear something up because you made 878 00:34:03,842 --> 00:34:06,378 a statement that I outsourced 879 00:34:06,444 --> 00:34:07,245 my financial... 880 00:34:07,345 --> 00:34:08,380 Financial wellbeing. 881 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,515 ...wellbeing to a man, and it didn't go well. 882 00:34:10,582 --> 00:34:14,719 [tense music] 883 00:34:22,527 --> 00:34:26,398 I want to clear something up because you made a statement 884 00:34:26,464 --> 00:34:28,433 that I outsourced my financial... 885 00:34:28,533 --> 00:34:29,726 Financial wellbeing. 886 00:34:29,793 --> 00:34:31,870 ...wellbeing to a man, and it didn't go well. 887 00:34:31,903 --> 00:34:33,672 Maybe she's intimidated. 888 00:34:33,705 --> 00:34:35,231 Because I'm young and successful 889 00:34:35,298 --> 00:34:37,042 and I'm not financially dependent on a man, 890 00:34:37,108 --> 00:34:39,544 and she outsourced her financial wellbeing to a man 891 00:34:39,577 --> 00:34:40,879 and it didn't go well? 892 00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:44,349 PK was coming out of a bankruptcy when I met him. 893 00:34:44,449 --> 00:34:46,017 - Uh-huh. - Him and I 894 00:34:46,051 --> 00:34:48,286 - built everything together. - Okay. 895 00:34:48,386 --> 00:34:51,923 So, that statement, not only was it inaccurate, 896 00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:53,325 it was offensive. 897 00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:56,394 Does feel like you're also insulting a lot of women 898 00:34:56,428 --> 00:34:58,697 who decided to have a child and raise their kids 899 00:34:58,730 --> 00:35:00,465 - and not make money. - No, no, no. 900 00:35:00,532 --> 00:35:02,867 - That's how it feels. - But you can have a man 901 00:35:02,901 --> 00:35:04,894 be in charge of money and still know what's going on with 902 00:35:04,928 --> 00:35:07,072 your money, and you not make the money personally, 903 00:35:07,138 --> 00:35:08,898 and that can be a totally wonderful life. 904 00:35:08,932 --> 00:35:10,909 I thought you were talking about me and I was upset. 905 00:35:10,976 --> 00:35:12,277 I thought you were talking about her too. 906 00:35:12,344 --> 00:35:15,113 I can say... I did. So fuck it. 907 00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:16,381 I was shocked. I was like, 908 00:35:16,414 --> 00:35:17,849 she doesn't fucking know me at all. 909 00:35:17,916 --> 00:35:19,784 What I would want for all women, and all of us, 910 00:35:19,851 --> 00:35:21,519 is to know what's going on with our money. 911 00:35:21,586 --> 00:35:23,455 And I don't think not knowing is a good plan. 912 00:35:23,555 --> 00:35:24,823 Agreed. 913 00:35:24,923 --> 00:35:26,992 But I could see how that would be hurtful, and I'm sorry. 914 00:35:27,058 --> 00:35:29,494 So, as we close out Dorit, what is the latest 915 00:35:29,561 --> 00:35:31,329 on your divorce proceedings? 916 00:35:31,396 --> 00:35:33,465 Listen, every time you ask me, how are things 917 00:35:33,531 --> 00:35:35,867 with you and PK? I really want to be saying, 918 00:35:35,934 --> 00:35:37,335 - we're in a great place. - Everything's great. 919 00:35:37,402 --> 00:35:39,137 - But it's not the truth. - And you know what? 920 00:35:39,204 --> 00:35:43,433 It wasn't the truth. Right now, things, thank God... 921 00:35:43,466 --> 00:35:44,776 - Good. - ...after the kids' birthdays, 922 00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:46,644 this is the first time in almost two years, Andy. 923 00:35:46,711 --> 00:35:48,313 - That's good. - So, today, as we sit here 924 00:35:48,413 --> 00:35:49,648 - today, things are better? - Yes. 925 00:35:49,748 --> 00:35:51,449 Good. I'm really happy to hear it. 926 00:35:51,516 --> 00:35:52,751 - Me too. - That's, by the way, 927 00:35:52,884 --> 00:35:54,619 - the most important thing. - And I've been waiting 928 00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:56,821 for you to ask me and I couldn't wait to tell you. 929 00:35:56,888 --> 00:35:59,057 - Great. That's great. - Tell me about it. 930 00:35:59,124 --> 00:36:03,094 All right. Well, this season, Money Queen Amanda Frances 931 00:36:03,128 --> 00:36:04,821 was the new girl on the block, 932 00:36:04,888 --> 00:36:07,666 even though she lived on a very familiar block 933 00:36:07,766 --> 00:36:10,435 in Kyle's old Bel Air house. 934 00:36:10,468 --> 00:36:13,972 But some people thought this self-proclaimed breadwinner 935 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:17,976 spent a little too much time buttering herself up, 936 00:36:18,043 --> 00:36:20,945 while only offering crumbs about her career 937 00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:23,014 and her dramatic past. 938 00:36:23,081 --> 00:36:24,249 Watch. 939 00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:27,819 I am best known for my best-selling book 940 00:36:27,886 --> 00:36:29,054 Rich as Fuck, 941 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,388 which helps women redefine their relationship 942 00:36:30,488 --> 00:36:32,490 with money and manifest more into their lives. 943 00:36:32,524 --> 00:36:35,060 - She's getting married too. - What's your date? 944 00:36:35,126 --> 00:36:38,154 - 10-10-26. - Ooh, that sounds good. 945 00:36:38,188 --> 00:36:40,857 [sighs] People say you can't have it all, 946 00:36:40,924 --> 00:36:43,301 and I do. I do have it all. 947 00:36:43,435 --> 00:36:45,203 So, I'm the breadwinner, I always have been, 948 00:36:45,303 --> 00:36:48,039 but he's very motivated to be able to take care of me. 949 00:36:48,139 --> 00:36:49,607 I love being the fucking breadwinner. 950 00:36:49,674 --> 00:36:51,000 I really do love it. 951 00:36:51,034 --> 00:36:53,378 It was my money, I should be clear, when I bought it. 952 00:36:53,445 --> 00:36:56,381 I mean, we have renovated together, but I did buy it. 953 00:36:56,448 --> 00:36:57,348 Sorry. 954 00:36:57,415 --> 00:36:58,650 Why would you share that? 955 00:36:58,717 --> 00:37:03,922 That doesn't like, add value to the conversation. 956 00:37:03,988 --> 00:37:05,023 You know? 957 00:37:05,090 --> 00:37:07,183 I found that I had a gift 958 00:37:07,217 --> 00:37:09,594 around like, the energetic part of money. 959 00:37:09,661 --> 00:37:12,063 I have no formal business experience. 960 00:37:12,130 --> 00:37:15,558 But I was like, let's make this a personal development brand. 961 00:37:15,625 --> 00:37:18,670 What is this frou-frou mess we talkin' about? 962 00:37:18,736 --> 00:37:20,371 I have all the stats. 963 00:37:20,438 --> 00:37:22,857 Eighty percent of people who buy a course buy a second course. 964 00:37:22,891 --> 00:37:24,909 I have less than a three percent refund rate, 965 00:37:24,976 --> 00:37:26,411 which is unheard of in my industry. 966 00:37:26,511 --> 00:37:28,404 That is a very, very low amount of people wanting 967 00:37:28,471 --> 00:37:29,681 refunds on digital products. 968 00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:30,715 So, here's the problem, Amanda. 969 00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:32,250 - What? - You are defending 970 00:37:32,317 --> 00:37:34,385 your business instead of telling us what you actually do. 971 00:37:34,452 --> 00:37:37,922 The baseline of Amanda's defense mechanism, 972 00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:41,251 whenever she gets criticism, is that she's insecure. 973 00:37:41,317 --> 00:37:42,494 I went looking up her book, 974 00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:45,196 and I see this blog that says, "I was in a cult." 975 00:37:45,296 --> 00:37:46,364 I'm sorry, what? 976 00:37:46,431 --> 00:37:47,532 Do you think I'm fake? 977 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,492 I think that you are not being 978 00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:50,869 clear about your life. 979 00:37:50,902 --> 00:37:52,203 I can't have a life that looks good 980 00:37:52,237 --> 00:37:54,706 - and feels good? - Girl, your life is not pure. 981 00:37:55,306 --> 00:37:58,610 How do they expect me to be more open when they put me down 982 00:37:58,676 --> 00:38:01,146 and question everything I do at every turn? 983 00:38:01,246 --> 00:38:02,614 She's built a cult. 984 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,748 Brava. 985 00:38:03,815 --> 00:38:05,717 She walked away from one and she built one. 986 00:38:05,784 --> 00:38:07,252 This has got to stop. 987 00:38:07,318 --> 00:38:09,788 [tense music] 988 00:38:13,358 --> 00:38:15,059 - Oof. - Wow. 989 00:38:15,093 --> 00:38:17,620 All right. So, Amanda, not since Camille Grammer Season 1 990 00:38:17,687 --> 00:38:19,964 have I seen someone enter this group 991 00:38:20,031 --> 00:38:22,200 and light up the audience. 992 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:23,501 Yeah, you're welcome. 993 00:38:23,568 --> 00:38:25,236 So, let's start with the positive, shall we? 994 00:38:25,336 --> 00:38:26,738 - Yes. - Sure. Okay. 995 00:38:26,871 --> 00:38:28,072 Maura from New Hampshire said, "You know what 996 00:38:28,206 --> 00:38:30,300 I love about Amanda? She got all the ladies 997 00:38:30,366 --> 00:38:33,111 activated and she barely had to try." 998 00:38:33,178 --> 00:38:34,813 True Real Reality said, 999 00:38:34,879 --> 00:38:37,749 "Amanda has the cutest family and a very hot husband. 1000 00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:39,584 I love this for her." 1001 00:38:39,617 --> 00:38:41,085 Speaking of your hot husband, 1002 00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:42,654 I saw that the two of you got married. 1003 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,291 Congratulations, you had your first of two ceremonies. 1004 00:38:46,357 --> 00:38:47,984 Yeah, at 9-9-25, 1005 00:38:48,051 --> 00:38:49,828 we had a courthouse wedding. 1006 00:38:49,894 --> 00:38:53,598 And the big, you coming in on the helicopter 1007 00:38:53,698 --> 00:38:56,834 and him coming on in the horse, that's... 1008 00:38:56,901 --> 00:38:58,937 - 10-10-26, yeah. - Wow. 1009 00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:01,940 So, on the other hand, many fans were taken aback 1010 00:39:01,973 --> 00:39:04,275 by how you speak about your husband. 1011 00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:05,810 Nora from Topeka said, 1012 00:39:05,877 --> 00:39:08,638 "Does Amanda realize every time she talks about her husband 1013 00:39:08,671 --> 00:39:10,315 she makes him sound like a freeloader?" 1014 00:39:10,381 --> 00:39:11,716 Hmm. 1015 00:39:11,783 --> 00:39:14,152 Okay, Eddie's not a freeloader. He has a job. 1016 00:39:14,219 --> 00:39:17,121 He owns a company. He works. He's a wonderful man. 1017 00:39:17,255 --> 00:39:18,923 He is a good, good, good, good man. 1018 00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:22,393 He takes care of me in a million ways every day. 1019 00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:24,128 He knows I make more money than him. 1020 00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:25,797 He knows I'm super proud of it. 1021 00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:29,158 How does he feel about you putting that on blast, though? 1022 00:39:29,192 --> 00:39:30,268 Hmm. 1023 00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:31,569 My ex would have died. 1024 00:39:31,636 --> 00:39:33,271 I don't think he would consider it on blast. 1025 00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:35,406 Did he say anything to you about that? 1026 00:39:35,473 --> 00:39:38,376 He said hey, the only thing was... 1027 00:39:38,476 --> 00:39:39,811 When you paid for the house. 1028 00:39:39,911 --> 00:39:41,946 No, no, no, 'cause I paid for the house. 1029 00:39:42,013 --> 00:39:46,084 Listen, for what I do, it is just in me that I want women 1030 00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:48,887 to know always that they can do it. 1031 00:39:48,987 --> 00:39:51,890 But out of respect for your husband who is so adoring. 1032 00:39:51,956 --> 00:39:53,658 I don't think he considers it disrespectful. 1033 00:39:53,691 --> 00:39:56,127 He wouldn't see that as disrespectful? 1034 00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:58,830 No, the house he-- no, the house, I think was fair. 1035 00:39:58,896 --> 00:40:00,556 I did buy it. We renovated it together. 1036 00:40:00,623 --> 00:40:02,867 But what did he say this season? He said what? 1037 00:40:02,934 --> 00:40:05,069 - You were gonna say. - Oh, he was like, 1038 00:40:05,136 --> 00:40:07,839 that I make more... I make more in a month 1039 00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:09,565 than he makes in a year specifically. 1040 00:40:09,632 --> 00:40:11,676 He's like, yes, that is true 1041 00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:14,345 and maybe you didn't have to say it that way. 1042 00:40:14,479 --> 00:40:16,147 And it is true. 1043 00:40:16,481 --> 00:40:19,751 But do you see how you could plant seeds of contempt 1044 00:40:19,817 --> 00:40:21,920 that blossom years down the road? 1045 00:40:22,020 --> 00:40:23,888 You do plan to be with this man forever, right? 1046 00:40:23,955 --> 00:40:25,556 - Yes. - Right. Okay. 1047 00:40:25,623 --> 00:40:28,326 So, when you say things like this, 1048 00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:31,754 they get buried and then they fester. 1049 00:40:31,821 --> 00:40:34,866 They could. Maybe. But as the show comes out, 1050 00:40:34,966 --> 00:40:37,035 as he sees articles, as he sees comments, 1051 00:40:37,101 --> 00:40:39,203 we are in bed together talking. 1052 00:40:39,237 --> 00:40:41,372 There's me saying, hey, I meant this. 1053 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:43,107 My point to you is this. 1054 00:40:43,174 --> 00:40:46,044 Everything is on the up swing. Everything is beautiful. 1055 00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:49,314 The seeds you plant now, they will blossom 1056 00:40:49,380 --> 00:40:52,442 when shit fucks up and you will... 1057 00:40:52,508 --> 00:40:55,320 you will pay for that later. 1058 00:40:55,386 --> 00:40:57,722 But Amanda, I think what he's saying right now, 1059 00:40:57,789 --> 00:40:59,924 he's not saying that-- 1060 00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:02,794 You're telling me how my husband feels? 1061 00:41:02,860 --> 00:41:06,230 No. I'm telling you that when you emasculate someone 1062 00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:08,733 who adores you and loves you, 1063 00:41:08,766 --> 00:41:10,435 it doesn't matter how much more money 1064 00:41:10,501 --> 00:41:13,429 I've made in my career than my husband, if I did. 1065 00:41:13,463 --> 00:41:16,240 I'm still-- there is not one moment in my entire life 1066 00:41:16,374 --> 00:41:18,376 where I have said that to anyone, 1067 00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:19,877 let alone on television. 1068 00:41:19,978 --> 00:41:23,481 But you don't teach women that they can make money. 1069 00:41:23,548 --> 00:41:25,650 I don't teach women that they can make money? 1070 00:41:25,717 --> 00:41:26,884 No, no, you inspire women. 1071 00:41:26,951 --> 00:41:29,087 But absolutely you inspire women to make money 1072 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,980 but this is my job. 1073 00:41:31,047 --> 00:41:33,191 But you can reverse it. Like, I look at myself a lot. 1074 00:41:33,257 --> 00:41:37,595 With my marriage, if he had said those things about me 1075 00:41:37,628 --> 00:41:40,698 when we were 40 years old, like, well, I'm the bread maker, 1076 00:41:40,765 --> 00:41:44,335 I bought the house, I did this, I did that. 1077 00:41:44,402 --> 00:41:47,538 And here's little old me, like, with a baby in my arms 1078 00:41:47,638 --> 00:41:49,632 like, great for you, you know. 1079 00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:54,178 It builds up resentment. 1080 00:41:54,245 --> 00:41:56,180 This isn't a gang up on you. This is life. 1081 00:41:56,247 --> 00:41:58,182 - No, we're being helpful. - This is life. 1082 00:41:58,282 --> 00:41:59,817 I asked him if he felt emasculated. 1083 00:41:59,884 --> 00:42:01,586 He said absolutely not. He's very secure. 1084 00:42:01,686 --> 00:42:03,588 - We're saying yet. - Okay. 1085 00:42:04,255 --> 00:42:06,924 So, the criticism was not limited 1086 00:42:06,991 --> 00:42:08,626 to how you speak about Eddie. 1087 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,328 You were getting critiqued 1088 00:42:10,361 --> 00:42:13,798 about Millennial phrases, bragging about designers, 1089 00:42:13,831 --> 00:42:15,466 or the Money Queen of it all. 1090 00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:16,692 Was there one thing that surprised you 1091 00:42:16,759 --> 00:42:18,027 that you were hearing from people, 1092 00:42:18,094 --> 00:42:19,695 that you were like, really? 1093 00:42:19,762 --> 00:42:21,806 The designer stuff a little bit, or the bragging stuff 1094 00:42:21,939 --> 00:42:25,001 a little bit, because I thought I was on a show about rich women 1095 00:42:25,034 --> 00:42:27,311 with cool shit, I thought there was a lot of designer talk. 1096 00:42:27,378 --> 00:42:29,414 That's one part of the show you're on. 1097 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,083 That's not the lead part of the show you're on. 1098 00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:33,418 I didn't think I was leading with it. 1099 00:42:33,518 --> 00:42:35,620 The lead part is your fucking heart and soul. 1100 00:42:35,686 --> 00:42:38,473 And we've had a hard time getting to your heart and soul. 1101 00:42:39,757 --> 00:42:40,992 DingDong on Twitter said, 1102 00:42:41,092 --> 00:42:44,020 "Amanda's need to one-up and compete with everything 1103 00:42:44,053 --> 00:42:46,264 the women have acquired is exhausting." 1104 00:42:46,330 --> 00:42:47,665 DirtyJenny on Twitter said, 1105 00:42:47,732 --> 00:42:49,934 "What is up with Amanda and mentioning the labels so much? 1106 00:42:50,001 --> 00:42:52,003 What is she trying to prove? 1107 00:42:52,070 --> 00:42:54,172 You're talking to a Hilton, for goodness sake." 1108 00:42:54,238 --> 00:42:55,706 But I think everyone brought up labels. 1109 00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:57,508 Often on the show, I would bring it up. 1110 00:42:57,542 --> 00:42:59,610 There would be this like, pause, silence after, 1111 00:42:59,677 --> 00:43:02,013 but other people would say this is this, this is this. 1112 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,415 We are on a set of Rodeo Drive, let me point out. 1113 00:43:04,482 --> 00:43:05,583 But they were asked, also. 1114 00:43:05,650 --> 00:43:07,018 Do you feel like you had to do that 1115 00:43:07,084 --> 00:43:08,352 when you came into this group? 1116 00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:10,188 Because I think it came off like that. 1117 00:43:10,321 --> 00:43:12,523 Yes. And I saw her use, in Sedona, saying, 1118 00:43:12,657 --> 00:43:15,026 "Make sure you get a shot of this." 1119 00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:17,528 Telling the cameramen to please make sure 1120 00:43:17,628 --> 00:43:19,297 you get a shot of my Chanel bag. 1121 00:43:19,363 --> 00:43:22,200 You are with, sitting on a couch-- 1122 00:43:22,266 --> 00:43:24,135 - I thought it was cute. - No! 1123 00:43:24,202 --> 00:43:25,937 Cannot lead with that shit. 1124 00:43:26,037 --> 00:43:28,856 We are too old and too experienced. 1125 00:43:30,975 --> 00:43:33,945 [tense music] 1126 00:43:40,852 --> 00:43:43,913 And I saw her use, in Sedona, telling the cameramen, 1127 00:43:43,946 --> 00:43:46,782 to please make sure you get a shot of my Chanel bag. 1128 00:43:46,849 --> 00:43:49,227 You are with, sitting on a couch-- 1129 00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:51,696 - I thought it was cute. - No! 1130 00:43:51,729 --> 00:43:53,364 Cannot lead with that shit. 1131 00:43:53,397 --> 00:43:56,134 We are too old and too experienced. 1132 00:43:56,234 --> 00:43:58,870 We want you, not the veneer. 1133 00:43:58,970 --> 00:44:01,372 I think the misconception was that I was some kind, 1134 00:44:01,405 --> 00:44:03,032 somehow hiding me. 1135 00:44:03,099 --> 00:44:06,043 It felt that way. I should stop talking. 1136 00:44:06,110 --> 00:44:09,280 Rachel, you said you have a hard time with Amanda because 1137 00:44:09,313 --> 00:44:13,217 she acts strong but she plays the victim at the same time. 1138 00:44:13,251 --> 00:44:16,954 I think the conflict that I've had is what you just said 1139 00:44:17,054 --> 00:44:18,956 about how you want to teach women, and how you want 1140 00:44:19,056 --> 00:44:21,158 to welcome in every room, and everyone knows 1141 00:44:21,225 --> 00:44:22,493 who you are, and whatever. 1142 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,162 I never said I want to walk in every room 1143 00:44:24,228 --> 00:44:25,596 and have everyone know who I was. 1144 00:44:25,630 --> 00:44:27,164 You said that every room you walk into... 1145 00:44:27,265 --> 00:44:28,591 Everybody knows who you are. 1146 00:44:28,658 --> 00:44:30,601 Outside of our group, I'm in a world where everyone 1147 00:44:30,701 --> 00:44:33,104 gets me and everyone loves it. All my friends take my courses 1148 00:44:33,204 --> 00:44:35,439 and everyone has this foundation of like, what Amanda's about. 1149 00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:37,675 And I haven't been in a world in a long time where people 1150 00:44:37,742 --> 00:44:41,979 didn't know who I was and what I built, and like why. 1151 00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:44,148 - No, I said that I used to. - You did say that. 1152 00:44:44,182 --> 00:44:46,584 When I walk into a room people know who I am and what I do. 1153 00:44:46,617 --> 00:44:47,919 They know my heart, they know my intention. 1154 00:44:47,952 --> 00:44:49,445 Okay, you didn't follow it with that. 1155 00:44:49,512 --> 00:44:50,788 - You did not. - I did. 1156 00:44:50,821 --> 00:44:52,315 I explained it to you at Dorit's party. 1157 00:44:52,348 --> 00:44:54,659 No, but in the moment, you didn't say it. 1158 00:44:54,692 --> 00:44:56,127 - But that's not what I meant. - Okay. 1159 00:44:56,194 --> 00:44:58,563 - That's how you took it. - It's not how I took it, 1160 00:44:58,629 --> 00:45:00,623 it's what you said. So, I guess what I'm saying is like, 1161 00:45:00,690 --> 00:45:03,125 because when you say those things and not followed 1162 00:45:03,192 --> 00:45:04,827 by the explanation of why you're saying it, 1163 00:45:04,860 --> 00:45:07,663 how could I hear it differently, right? 1164 00:45:07,697 --> 00:45:09,365 So, I'm saying, who actually says that? 1165 00:45:09,432 --> 00:45:12,301 Because if you knew who I was and what I do, you'd know 1166 00:45:12,368 --> 00:45:14,078 - that's not what I meant. - But I don't. 1167 00:45:14,111 --> 00:45:17,014 [sighs] We're trying to know you. 1168 00:45:17,048 --> 00:45:18,282 You've rubbed everybody the wrong way. 1169 00:45:18,316 --> 00:45:20,751 It's hard to do that in this group. 1170 00:45:20,785 --> 00:45:22,553 Well, I did it. 1171 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,557 There was a lot of, I feel uncomfortable, 1172 00:45:26,657 --> 00:45:28,359 I feel unsafe, I feel this. 1173 00:45:28,459 --> 00:45:32,296 That's very victim-y rather than I'm the strong person 1174 00:45:32,363 --> 00:45:35,399 believing in who I am as a woman 1175 00:45:35,466 --> 00:45:38,369 and what I teach and how strong I am and how I lead. 1176 00:45:38,469 --> 00:45:40,571 So guess what, don't come at me like that. 1177 00:45:40,671 --> 00:45:42,673 What are you talking about? 1178 00:45:42,707 --> 00:45:44,742 Not like, this doesn't feel good to me. 1179 00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:47,745 It's just a contradiction, that's all. 1180 00:45:47,812 --> 00:45:51,007 Like, okay, are you the victim or are you the leader? 1181 00:45:51,073 --> 00:45:53,551 Are you uncomfortable or are you unsafe? 1182 00:45:53,584 --> 00:45:55,753 Yeah, a good question. 1183 00:45:55,820 --> 00:45:57,313 - Great distinction. - Life is uncomfortable. 1184 00:45:57,380 --> 00:46:00,191 And that's how you grow... This show... 1185 00:46:00,224 --> 00:46:02,193 If you're having fun on this show... 1186 00:46:02,260 --> 00:46:04,996 - This show is uncomfortable. - The show's uncomfortable. 1187 00:46:05,096 --> 00:46:07,189 I think it's very uncomfortable 1188 00:46:07,256 --> 00:46:10,259 and she obviously is not used to a setting like this 1189 00:46:10,359 --> 00:46:11,394 which, it is a lot. 1190 00:46:11,427 --> 00:46:12,970 Well, this is not an easy group to crack. 1191 00:46:13,004 --> 00:46:15,573 The audience also noted that Amanda 1192 00:46:15,606 --> 00:46:17,942 didn't seem to be welcomed with open arms. 1193 00:46:18,042 --> 00:46:19,235 Who is? 1194 00:46:19,268 --> 00:46:20,870 Tanyan on Twitter said, 1195 00:46:20,936 --> 00:46:22,947 "Is anyone else finding it cringey how rude 1196 00:46:23,047 --> 00:46:24,106 everyone's treating Amanda? 1197 00:46:24,206 --> 00:46:25,850 They're not giving her a chance at all. 1198 00:46:25,916 --> 00:46:27,710 Screaming jealousy." 1199 00:46:27,777 --> 00:46:29,820 Kyle, what's your opinion on this? 1200 00:46:29,854 --> 00:46:32,848 Like I said, when someone new comes in, 1201 00:46:32,915 --> 00:46:35,726 I really do have a lot of empathy 1202 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,895 and try to make them feel comfortable. 1203 00:46:37,928 --> 00:46:41,465 And I can after this many years, see why someone 1204 00:46:41,532 --> 00:46:43,401 acts a certain way, behaves a certain way, 1205 00:46:43,501 --> 00:46:46,537 and maybe someone's not your cup of tea, 1206 00:46:46,604 --> 00:46:49,131 that's fine, that's one thing, 1207 00:46:49,231 --> 00:46:52,143 but I don't think there's a reason to be unkind. 1208 00:46:52,209 --> 00:46:56,414 In Kyle's defense, she's always been the ambassador. 1209 00:46:56,447 --> 00:46:58,916 But I mean, also, I just felt like... 1210 00:46:58,949 --> 00:47:00,943 [laughing] 1211 00:47:00,976 --> 00:47:03,621 Well, listen, I mean... 1212 00:47:03,721 --> 00:47:05,723 - Boz doesn't agree. - I object! 1213 00:47:05,790 --> 00:47:07,383 Boz would disagree with that. 1214 00:47:07,450 --> 00:47:08,826 - I'm very nice to you. - I'm kidding. 1215 00:47:08,893 --> 00:47:11,387 But by the way, Boz, I've been nothing but nice to you. 1216 00:47:11,454 --> 00:47:12,563 Nothing but nice to you. 1217 00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:14,757 And part of it is I'm kidding. 1218 00:47:14,824 --> 00:47:16,100 (both talking) 1219 00:47:16,167 --> 00:47:17,401 But are you? 1220 00:47:17,501 --> 00:47:20,171 Because I have been nothing but kind to you for two years. 1221 00:47:20,237 --> 00:47:22,573 You've been so kind, you've been very kind. 1222 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,167 Last year what I said was that I found you cold 1223 00:47:25,234 --> 00:47:27,336 because you were holding... 1224 00:47:27,436 --> 00:47:29,780 Because you were holding back 1225 00:47:29,814 --> 00:47:31,982 things from me, which is fine. 1226 00:47:32,016 --> 00:47:34,685 But that doesn't mean that I felt a warm blanket. 1227 00:47:34,752 --> 00:47:37,855 - I feel like we keep growing. - I would like to keep growing. 1228 00:47:37,922 --> 00:47:39,582 I want to bring it back to Amanda 1229 00:47:39,648 --> 00:47:41,125 and I want to move on to your business. 1230 00:47:41,158 --> 00:47:43,694 Amanda, you did an interview where you said Boz 1231 00:47:43,794 --> 00:47:46,063 tried to create a personal development brand, 1232 00:47:46,097 --> 00:47:49,333 it did not go well, she's losing money on her courses. 1233 00:47:49,366 --> 00:47:51,268 - She told me so. - Let's talk about this. 1234 00:47:51,335 --> 00:47:53,304 Because when in the hell did I tell you 1235 00:47:53,404 --> 00:47:56,407 that I was losing money on my business? 1236 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,534 - That is crazy. - In the vineyard! 1237 00:47:58,634 --> 00:48:00,177 Girl, I did not tell you that. 1238 00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:02,146 Why would I have told you that? 1239 00:48:02,179 --> 00:48:03,814 - Because you were-- - Let us consider 1240 00:48:03,881 --> 00:48:05,508 our relationship at that point. 1241 00:48:05,541 --> 00:48:08,010 Let's pretend for one second that I was losing money, 1242 00:48:08,043 --> 00:48:09,587 which I'm not, 1243 00:48:09,620 --> 00:48:11,288 why would I confide that in you? 1244 00:48:11,355 --> 00:48:12,957 It wasn't a confiding moment. 1245 00:48:13,023 --> 00:48:16,193 It was essentially saying if I'm losing money on courses, 1246 00:48:16,227 --> 00:48:18,963 there's no way you can be making money on courses 1247 00:48:19,063 --> 00:48:20,531 and not be doing something wrong. 1248 00:48:20,564 --> 00:48:21,999 No, that doesn't make any sense, Amanda. 1249 00:48:22,066 --> 00:48:24,193 - That's what you said. - It's not what I said. 1250 00:48:24,226 --> 00:48:25,503 I think they have it on camera. 1251 00:48:25,603 --> 00:48:27,037 And they don't because I didn't say that. 1252 00:48:27,138 --> 00:48:29,407 The online workshopping, that's not what I do for work. 1253 00:48:29,473 --> 00:48:31,675 - Not the main thing you do. - You know what I mean? 1254 00:48:31,776 --> 00:48:34,311 - That's the stuff I do to help. - But I'm so curious about it 1255 00:48:34,378 --> 00:48:36,305 'cause we have the interlap. Yeah, you said I don't need 1256 00:48:36,372 --> 00:48:37,314 to make money from this. 1257 00:48:37,348 --> 00:48:38,816 I don't. I lose money on it. 1258 00:48:38,883 --> 00:48:40,084 Yeah, well I-- yeah. 1259 00:48:40,184 --> 00:48:42,086 But that's okay with me 'cause that's a choice I made. 1260 00:48:42,186 --> 00:48:44,688 And additionally, I'll just let you know, because I do 1261 00:48:44,789 --> 00:48:49,326 need to clarify this comparison between our online courses. 1262 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,895 You have an online business. 1263 00:48:50,995 --> 00:48:54,365 I don't have an online business, I have a teaching course 1264 00:48:54,398 --> 00:48:58,169 based on a class I taught at Harvard for three semesters. 1265 00:48:58,202 --> 00:49:01,272 It gives people the opportunity to understand the keys 1266 00:49:01,338 --> 00:49:04,175 I did not have as a businessperson, 1267 00:49:04,275 --> 00:49:06,577 so that they understand how to negotiate for a better raise, 1268 00:49:06,610 --> 00:49:08,771 ask for more promotions. 1269 00:49:08,871 --> 00:49:11,440 They understand how to present in a boardroom. 1270 00:49:11,507 --> 00:49:14,610 And so, for me, it's not about making money. 1271 00:49:14,677 --> 00:49:17,188 My point is that my class is to open the door 1272 00:49:17,221 --> 00:49:19,056 for people who can't go to Harvard. 1273 00:49:19,089 --> 00:49:22,226 You are promoting your businesses and setting up 1274 00:49:22,326 --> 00:49:24,562 your margins so you can be rich as fuck. 1275 00:49:24,595 --> 00:49:27,765 - Yeah. - That is not my intention. 1276 00:49:27,865 --> 00:49:29,458 - It's a charitable venture. - Absolutely. 1277 00:49:29,525 --> 00:49:31,560 - She's giving back. - She's trying to mentor. 1278 00:49:31,627 --> 00:49:33,128 And so, by the way, that is not failure. 1279 00:49:33,229 --> 00:49:35,431 - I didn't say it was a failure. - Yes, you did! 1280 00:49:35,464 --> 00:49:38,225 [tense music] 1281 00:49:39,210 --> 00:49:41,812 Next week, the reunion continues. 1282 00:49:41,912 --> 00:49:45,082 Jennifer Tilly, talk to me about this dress! 1283 00:49:45,115 --> 00:49:47,284 This is my face on the front of it. 1284 00:49:47,318 --> 00:49:48,786 I see that. 1285 00:49:48,886 --> 00:49:51,222 Will you be asking for half of the agency? 1286 00:49:51,255 --> 00:49:53,616 - Half of it's mine. - Does he realize that? 1287 00:49:54,149 --> 00:49:57,061 You told me that Amanda took out a $2 million loan 1288 00:49:57,127 --> 00:49:58,295 just before she started filming. 1289 00:49:58,329 --> 00:49:59,955 - I have never. - You did?! 1290 00:50:00,489 --> 00:50:03,058 You want to talk about the past two years 1291 00:50:03,125 --> 00:50:04,260 where we haven't been friends?! 1292 00:50:04,326 --> 00:50:05,995 This is exactly it, Kyle! 1293 00:50:06,095 --> 00:50:07,630 So, stop saying that we are friends! 1294 00:50:07,663 --> 00:50:10,090 [tense music]