- Tonight, the three-part "Beverly Hills" reunion
begins.
- All right, everybody, quiet, please.
- I wanna welcome you ladies to a backyard cocktail party.
I hope it's fun.
[hesitant laughter] - We do too.
- It's bound to be.
- You say I attacked you
when you know what an attack is.
- You weaponized your profession against her.
- Oh, here we go.
- You have proven to be a liar.
[tense music]
- Who knew that by saying something like that,
it was gonna create a bigger problem for me
in the media with the whole Morgan situation.
* *
- Well, where do you go from here,
I guess, is the bigger question.
- To a break, because I need one.
- [laughs]
[light electronic music]
* *
- First reunion. - Ooh.
- Oh, look at these interesting placements.
If you put me next to Sutton, I'll fucking kill you.
Kidding.
* *
- How you feeling about today?
- You know what it is, it's closure.
That's what this is. [laughs] It's closure.
- Positive energy.
Everybody living in their truth,
speaking their truth.
- No crying today.
No crying. Strong Sutton.
- Strong Sutton.
- Big day.
Beverly Hills. Chi-chi-chi.
[knocking at door]
- No, how 'bout a little, like, pad
instead of a little puff, instead of the brush.
- Hey, OG. - What's up--oh.
- How you doin'? - Right now, I'm okay.
- Okay.
Mau is gonna be joining us today.
- You are fucking lying. - I am lying.
- You fucker, Andy! - I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. - You--oh, my God.
- * Gotta dance, gotta live, gotta wonder *
* Gotta learn how to keep them younger *
* Gotta keep living life... *
- I can honestly say
this was the hardest year of my life.
- Dorit? - Hi, sweetheart.
- Can I come in? - Yes, my love.
- What's going on?
- No, listen, I'm just getting--
- You know, there's stuff with Kyle and I that's going on,
and it hurts and bothers me the most.
And you obviously saw in the press the things
where she said, you know, I exaggerated our friendship.
- We've only gone on one trip together as a couple
that I can recall.
Mau and PK, Dorit and me.
It's not like, you know, my friends,
like, you know, we'll go to the gym.
We work out together. We hike together.
She doesn't do that kind of stuff, so, um,
you know, it was just-- it was just--
to put it bluntly, just an exaggeration.
Completely.
- I haven't heard from her in a couple of months.
Then she sends me a text yesterday
basically trying to silence me.
It was so manipulative.
It was so calculated.
- It's like a novel, bitch. - Thank you.
- What the fuck?
"Hi, I've been wanting to reach out
"because I know we're in a weird place.
"Of course some of the interview comments
hurt my feelings and created issues."
They always do. "I don't want to lose
"someone else in my life over a TV show.
"They don't even know we are going through a hard time,
"so I don't see the need in bringing it up there.
"I would like to sit down and talk
after we get through tomorrow."
- How would you feel if you got this message?
- I would feel manipulated. - Okay.
You said on "Watch What Happens Live,"
"I got eviscerated. I love Kyle, but fair is fair."
- Yes, I did say that. - Okay,
This is exactly my point, fair is fair.
This is the reunion.
- I hear you.
I understand exactly where you're coming from,
and I hate every moment of this.
[upbeat music]
- You go straight in that door. - Okay.
- I brought my big brush for extensions.
Yeah, if you need it. - Whoo.
[cheering]
- You know, I can't see. - It's so dark.
- I can't see, and I can't feel my feet.
Oh, golly.
- The dynamic duo is here.
- This is gorge.
Hi.
- The showgirls are here. - Hi.
- Come on, slit.
- I mean-- - Whoo!
[laughs] - That is beautiful.
- Yes! [cheering]
- Finally. - Hey.
- Hi. - Well, look at you.
- Hello. - Hi, hi, hi, hi, hi.
- Is that all of us? - Dorit.
- Oh. - Dorit.
* *
- Almost there. - Almost there?
- Oh, my God, I'm so glad I got here at 8:15,
while we wait for Dorit's dress to be sewed.
- I think we should just start.
- Oh, there she is. There's Dorit.
- Oh, Mother Theresa.
- [laughs] - Well, uh...
hey, hood. - Hi.
- Wow. - Hello.
- All right, everybody, quiet, please.
* *
- Hey, everybody.
Welcome to "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills"
season 13 reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen, and tonight, I wanna welcome you ladies
to a backyard cocktail party in the Hollywood Hills.
I hope it's fun.
[hesitant laughter]
- We do too. - It's bound to be.
- Good evening, Sutton.
- Good evening, Andy.
- How are you? - I'm good.
- You look beautiful. - Thank you.
I'm trying to be subtle.
- Okay, do you think you were subtle this season?
- Well, yes.
[laughs] - Okay, we'll get into that.
Hi, Garcelle.
- Hello, Andy Cohen. - How are you?
- I'm really great. How are you?
- I'm great. You look beautiful.
- Thank you so much.
- Hi, Crystal. - Hi. How are you?
- I'm great. How are you feeling tonight?
- I feel really good. Yeah. - Good.
Annemarie, welcome to your first reunion.
- Thank you, Andy. - And let me clarify...
- Yes. - It is "Anna Marie."
- "Anna Marie," spelled like Annemarie.
- Okay. Okay. - It's a Dutch name, so yeah.
[Garcelle laughs] - Hi, Dorit.
- Hi, Andy. - What were you
going for today, mysterious lady?
- Ah, I was going for fashion, fashion, fashion.
- Okay. Dorit also told me
before the show that she is going to be speaking
in bullet points tonight.
- Yes.
- [laughs] Oh, God. - Ha.
- Good evening, Erika. How are you?
- I'm good. - Good.
- I'm good. It's, um,
probably the happiest I've been in this situation in two years.
both: Yes. - Do you share
the same feeling tonight, Kyle?
- I wish I felt like Erika right now.
- [laughs] Yeah.
Erika mentioned to me on "Watch What Happens Live"
that she was eviscerated a couple of years ago,
she felt, here,
and she thinks you're next up for that.
We do the reunion next Friday.
- As somebody who got eviscerated...
- Yes. - I would like to see everybody
get the same treatment. - You--okay.
- I saw the next day the headlines
that went everywhere with that story.
So then, of course,
my feelings got hurt for a minute,
but, honestly, you know,
Erika has been an amazing friend to me.
She's someone that I can trust
and someone that I value as a friend.
And I honestly think that she was trying to say
that you eviscerated her last year,
and it was more about that than about me.
And I really did not take that personally.
- Thank you, and I do consider you a very good friend,
and I--and I love you, and I meant that.
It's just, I'm still hurt.
The last couple of years, especially the reunion
two years ago, was very hard for me.
I mean, and I've lost everything on this show
and--and gone through it all.
And when you said, you know,
let's put you on a rotisserie and fire it up--
- Maybe not the best words. - Yeah.
- We're gonna put you on a skewer,
and I'm gonna fire up the barbecue.
- And I'm so fucking ready for you.
It matters only because it's-- it--to me.
- It's personal. - It's personal.
So that's really where I was coming from.
Had it--it was Kyle's, you know, moment.
It--it could have been anyone.
It's not particular to her.
Unfortunately, she's the casualty of my misplaced anger.
And that's really what it is.
- And I felt that just because I know you so well
and I know our friendship that that's how I took it.
- Just out of curiosity,
do you think it was unwarranted
that I asked you all those questions?
I mean, do you think they were out of line,
the questions I was asking you?
- You were in my ass, literally.
- Yeah. - Like, you let me have it.
And that's okay.
I get it.
But it still stings all these years later.
- It does. Yeah. - It just does, you know.
And I think having so many things thrown at you--
you know, we're human at the end of the day.
- Yeah. - This is a tough place to be.
- Obviously, lots to discuss about you, Mauricio.
We're gonna get to that later.
Dorit, what's your reaction to hearing Kyle's description
of her friendship with Erika?
- Um, well, I kind of got stuck on the fact
that she said when she saw the headlines that it hurt her,
because it's much the same when I saw the headline.
Kyle said Dorit exaggerated their friendship...
- Okay, but-- - Because that stung.
- I said that in response to all of the things
that you had been saying throughout the season.
Of course, I eventually, once I saw the show--
- Such as?
- And so--such as, you know,
I'm just so-- first of all, being asked
about my marriage on camera when we are good friends.
- How are things with you and Mau?
- I felt like I needed a little freedom.
- Specifically... away from your husband?
- And then there was the, you know,
"I feel like I was replaced by Morgan."
- How has Kyle's new friendship with Morgan Wade
affected your friendship with her?
- Oh, I mean, she'll kill me,
but I feel like the closer she got with Morgan,
the further she got from me.
- Wow. - Mm.
- I mean, how many times have we ever
had lunch without filming?
- You and I, over the last seven years, in particular...
- Have gone how many times? - The last few years.
- You could count on one hand. - Mau and PK--
- Wow, I got the sense you guys were hanging out a lot
outside of the cameras. - But the thing is
that doesn't matter. - We--we were. We are.
- She's still as important to me.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
We don't have that kind of friendship.
You know, I get up in the morning,
and I go and I work out.
- But you've never asked me to do that.
I sent you a message saying, "Kyle, I would love
to go for a walk." - But that's actually not true.
By the way, I took you on a walk, and no offense,
we know what happened when I took you once to work out.
- We were in-- - She had to sit down
on the cement. - No. This was--
- Why? Because she was-- - Because she doesn't work out.
- Oh, well-- - And she was out of breath.
- We were in Palm Springs with her group of friends
that they think, you know, going for a brisk walk
is going 10 miles, okay?
- Right. Okay. - No, it's 2 miles.
- I need a little preparation.
- You need a little warm-up. - It's a flat loop.
Anyway, the point-- my point of the story is--
and I don't want this to get lost in this--
that does not mean you are not very important to me.
I love you very much.
But why I said that because that was an exaggeration,
to take a moment for you to say something at my expense.
Because you knew that by saying something like that,
it was gonna create a bigger problem for me
in the media with the whole Morgan situation.
I don't want that kind either.
- This is exactly how rumors start.
Kyle, the Morgan situation has been in the media,
and it was not because of my comment.
- My point is I-- in saying that,
that does not mean you are not important to me.
You are very important to me.
I love you very, very, very much.
- Listen, I love to hear that, but I know your nature.
If I say something that upsets you,
you're a punisher.
You'll shut me out.
We hadn't spoken in a couple of months,
and then all of a sudden,
you text me the day before the reunion.
You know, do you really think that I'm an idiot?
I mean, it felt very manipulative.
It's not like I'm gonna come here and try to destroy you.
- It was not meant to be manipulative in any single way.
[tense music]
- I know that the two of you love each other,
and I think that there's resolution in your future.
- Yeah. - I hope so.
- Yeah. - I certainly hope so.
- We'll be right back.
Coming up...
- You say to me that I attacked you
when you know what an attack is.
- You do know I had a gun to my head.
- We are back
with "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.
Well, this season, Garcelle faced quite the balancing act,
from movie premieres,
to teaching her boys to become young men,
to facing difficult discussions with friends.
Let's watch.
- I am so excited about "Black Girl Missing."
To be in a place in my career now
that I get to executive produce a movie, I have a say-so.
All I want to do is spend time with my kids,
but I also have to work, and I also love to work.
So you just make quality time when you can.
I feel like you're not letting me parent you.
- I needed that two years ago.
- I'm happy he's being honest,
but it makes me feel like a failure.
I've always felt like you thought
that I should have kept the family together.
- I'd never hold it against Dad,
even though I know it was his fault.
And I've known that ever since I was, like, eight years old.
- You knew when you were eight? You looked it up?
- I've known forever.
- Wow.
I don't know if I trust you guys
when it comes to my family.
- To say that I don't trust you with my kids,
that, to me, it hits right in my heart.
- This is my problem with Dorit.
She takes things and then makes 'em personal,
and then she becomes the victim.
When I said it to Erika, we were all having a good time.
- [forcefully] But we are having a good time, you guys!
- If you have to say it like that,
we're not having a good time. [laughs]
- I'm saying that because you just attacked me.
[dramatic musical sting]
- I feel like for you and your privilege, I can't.
- The word of "attack" has a different meaning
when it comes from a white woman
to a Black woman.
It just does.
I don't think Dorit meant to hurt Garcelle,
but it does hurt Garcelle.
- It feels like an unconscious Karen behavior with you.
[tense music]
- I wanna learn and know about your plight.
- I don't think Dorit is malicious or mean,
but that's all I really wanted--was her to hear me.
I'd like to get to know more.
[gentle music]
- All right.
Congratulations on the Astro Award
and the NAACP nominations.
Congratulations. - Thank you. Thank you so much.
- You had a great year in front of and behind the camera.
- Yeah. How 'bout that? - Yeah.
Congratulations. - Thank you.
- You know, that scene on the beach with the boys...
- I know. - It was rough.
Are you being more selective with your work proj--
I'm assuming you always are. - I've always been.
I've always been, which is one of the reasons
why I'm doing reality, honestly,
was because I needed to be home.
Everything I was doing was taking me away.
So when this came around,
I was like, "Yeah, let me consider it.
It keeps me home."
- You said on the aftershow that you wished Mike had been
the one to tell the boys about his infidelity.
What was his reaction to learning
that Jax had googled it,
and has he talked to the boys about it?
- He would never talk to me about it, nor the boys,
which is why I take on--
- He still hasn't talked to the boys about it?
- This is why I take on so much responsibility
with talking about sex,
talking about feelings, because if they don't get it from me,
they're not gonna get it anywhere else.
- Wow.
So I want to move on to the tension
that boiled over between Garcelle and Dorit this year.
It started in Vegas when Garcelle said
that she couldn't trust the group around the kids,
and, Dorit, it seemed to hurt you more than anyone else.
- Listen, we're all mothers.
You know, it made me sad, and it hurt me to hear
that a friend of mine doesn't trust me with--
- It also hurt my feelings to watch friends of mine laugh
at the situation of a 14-year-old being cussed at.
- You guys, did you miss what Erika said to Garcelle's son,
the 14-year-old, to go fuck off?
- I know. - I was there.
- I mean, it's not funny, but it is funny.
- I think it's great that she did that.
[cackles]
- So let's call it even.
- I completely understand that, but it seems like
you're holding on to a grudge of that.
- It was adding to it.
So I felt the way I felt because I saw the scene,
and then me sharing my feelings,
you being defensive
and not letting me just have my feelings.
And you were like, you know, "It happened a year ago.
You should be fine."
- It's not that. It was more of--
- It was that, though.
I wasn't singling you out.
That's why I feel like when people are guilty,
they take it on.
- I just felt sad.
I felt sad that you felt that way.
- Then just say that. - And--
- So, Garcelle, you said you don't believe Dorit is racist,
but you do believe she's an unconscious Karen.
- Yeah, just like-- - The difference being--just--
- Just unaware.
Just, you know, just not...
I feel like the word "attack" just seemed unnecessary
for me saying, "No, no, no.
Why are you just trying to embarrass her?"
- I don't know all the words.
I don't know all the words... - Understood.
- And all the things, but, you know, also,
you have to judge on character, you know, and intent.
You know that I would never deliberately
do something to hurt you, okay?
And if you do, by the way, otherwise, then tell me.
- You were attacked by strangers...
- I was robbed. - In your home.
- You were robbed. You were at a gunpoint.
You were attacked. You know the difference.
You lived strangers in your house with guns
and your children in their bedrooms
was just horrific,
but yet, you say to me that I attacked you
when you know what an attack is.
[tense music]
- Coming up...
Coco N.X. wants to know when you made out with the driver
and was it more than once?
- Uh, maybe.
- I want a driver with benefits.
- He's good-looking too. [Garcelle laughs]
- Wow. Good for you.
- You say to me that I attacked you
when you know what an attack is.
- Can I chime in here for a second?
- Please. - Okay.
I just wanna say something.
When you guys were having this conversation
and you said to Dorit,
"You don't call Black women angry."
- Yeah, I remember exactly what I said.
- "You don't call them aggressive."
- Yeah.
- When we were sitting at Sutton's store
and I was, unfortunately,
asking you about your esophagus...
Sutton said to me, "Why are you yelling at me?"
When I was clearly not yelling at her.
- You're not my doctor. What?
- I get it, but you're saying things that don't make sense.
- Don't yell at me. - I'm sorry.
I don't mean to yell, but I'm just like, that was--
- Well, don't yell at me then.
- I'm not--I don't mean to yell at you.
- She's not yelling at you.
- And you were right there.
You didn't say anything. That--no, no.
I'm talking, you guys. - We all yell at each other.
- I'm talking. I'm talking.
I'm talking. - We all yell at each other.
That--I'm a Black woman too.
And that is somebody weaponizing me
as a Black woman, trying to make me look aggressive--
- You can stand up for yourself...
- I'm still talking. I'm still talking.
- Which were doing perfectly fine that entire night.
- I'm still talking.
So you're weapon--she-- I was being weaponized
as a Black woman, trying to imply
that I'm yelling at her when I'm clearly not.
Who stood up for me?
This one did.
- Okay.
- I wanna get back to Dorit.
Did you and Garcelle finish it?
- Garcelle labeled me and you-- - We were good.
You also labeled me as angry... - Well.
- Or attacking, attacking, attacking.
- I--yeah. I mean--
- Then that changes somebody's "perseftip"
when they meet me, right?
- I didn't label you as attacking.
I said-- - You said you attacked me.
- Yes, that is used all the time.
If you go back and look,
I would say thousands and thousands of times.
- But do you understand-- - It's the awareness.
Yeah, it's the awareness-- - It was to me.
- You said I live in a bubble. - Right.
Dorit lives in a bit of a bubble.
It just triggers me.
We live in a world now.
We're aware, we're woke, whatever you want to say,
and I feel like she's not in that world.
And then you went online
and you said, "I'm happily living in my bubble."
You doubled down.
- Garcelle. - It just felt like, wow,
this girl is really clueless. - Yeah.
- In hindsight, it was a big mistake on my part.
- Then why didn't you take it down?
- Because--first of all-- - I think you did it twice.
- No. - Didn't you do two posts?
- The next one was to clarify.
- Oh. - The only bubble I live in--
- I can't.
- Do you really believe
that I was doing that to stick up my middle finger?
- [laughing] That's what it was perceived as, Dorit.
- It didn't really land. - What do you think?
What did you think? - Did you think it landed?
No, it most certainly did not land.
I'm asking, do you think I did that?
Do you think that was-- - Yes.
- Yes.
- It was like
you were doubling down on it.
- It didn't--it just didn't-- it was cut and run.
Cut and run. - We're giving you--
- Okay, well, I didn't wanna leave it like I didn't care
or like I was sticking my middle finger up.
I wanted to clarify.
I don't live in a bubble. I know--
Garcelle, they're very, very big accusations.
They're very big accusations--
- So was the word you used for me.
- Listen, two things can be true.
- Right.
- And I think one thing that I've learned
is that it's really important to kind of listen and say less
a lot of times in situations like this.
Where do you go from here, I guess,
is the bigger question.
- To a break, because I need one.
- [laughs]
- Tell me this, do you like me?
- Sometimes.
- Do you have a problem with me?
- There's something, obviously.
- Obviously. - Obviously.
- Do you wanna try to work through it?
Do you want to have a friendship?
- I'm not sure. - Okay.
- All right, I wanna move on,
and, obviously, our work with the two of you is not done.
Let's shift to something not so heavy.
If you ever hear someone in this group
moaning with pleasure,
it's usually over a Birkin or some diamonds.
But when it comes to sex talk,
the "Beverly Hills" women aren't afraid
to let their freak flags fly.
Watch this.
[sensual percussive music]
[cheers and applause]
- Scissoring. - What's that?
- This is scissoring. - [laughs]
- [moans breathily] [laughter]
- I tried Bumble years ago. I couldn't do it.
- I've never been accepted to Raya.
- No. Raya-- - You haven't?
- They're like, "We don't know you."
- It's hard to find somebody,
and I don't have fake boobs.
What am I gonna do?
- The driver you made out with? I'm kidding!
- Bitch.
- I am gonna kill you. - Aah!
Oh, my God! - Oh!
- Come on, Sutton!
Oh, God. Oh, God.
- Oh, no.
- If Sutton's bull-riding skills are anything like
her dick-riding skills,
no wonder she's not getting a second date.
- Okay, that's enough! I'm getting tired.
- All right.
Garcelle at Magic Mike, you seemed to light up
with the dancer's abs in your vicinity.
Was it his abs that caught your eye or something else?
- It was the whole package. - Okay.
Bravo Buddy said, "Crystal said
Dorit hasn't seen a real body part in 10 years."
Oh, wow.
Dorit, what's your response? - I know.
I'd love to understand what exactly do you think--
other than my boobs-- is fake on me?
- I was just being funny.
- Oh, funny? - Yeah.
- Sutton, while you were on the bull, Erika said,
"If Sutton's bull-riding skills are anything like
"her dick-riding skills,
it's no wonder she's not getting a second date."
Uh, rebuttal?
- No. [laughter]
- Okay. All right.
- The bull-riding was tough.
- It's very tough. - It was hard.
- And the other riding is much easier.
[laughter]
- Mm. Mm. [laughter]
- Coco N.X. wants to know when you made out with the driver.
Who and when?
- I'm not gonna give-- I'm not gonna--
- You all share--
- Not--no. - No, no, no, no, no.
You may use the same car service,
I'm saying, maybe, to events. - I haven't seen anyone worth--
- This is my personal one. - Okay. So I wonder if there--
oh, it's your personal guy. - This is my personal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay.
And was it more than once?
- Maybe.
- I want a driver with benefits.
- He's good-looking too.
- Wow. Good for you.
- He is good-looking. - Wow.
Kyle asked the group if they would ever date a woman,
and she admitted she would.
Fancy Drew, "Alongside the tattoos,
"missing wedding rings, et cetera,
"did this admission from Kyle
add fuel to the fire of your suspicions?"
- No, I didn't--no. - No.
- This--that went over my head completely.
- It did? - Yeah.
- In season 10, we saw you very finicky
about the implication
that you and Teddi were romantically entangled.
- Why can't you just say, "I'm closer to Teddi"?
What's wrong with that?
'Cause you are. It's blatant.
Stevie Wonder could see that. - This is so beyond. I can't.
Yes, I was accused of that for Teddi being drunk
and sleeping in my bed in Provence.
Get down. Go to fucking sleep.
- No! - Got to go to bed.
You got to go to bed. - No, I can't.
I'm very busy. - Don't move.
- Okay.
[laughs]
- Lay down!
Then I was accused of that because Teddi accompanied me
to her therapist, and then we were
in "couples therapy." - Okay.
- So I'm kind of used to this by now.
- Didn't you last year go to couples therapy?
- You did? - [laughs]
What are you talking about? - What?
- You guys had therapy together at your house, right?
- What? - We learned
breathing exercises for anxiety.
We didn't talk about our relationship.
- No, but you had-- - What?
- But your therapist was there. - What?
- Therapist--didn't you? - I had couples therapy?
- I thought that was a little weird, but--
- You guys have all fucking lost your minds.
- Now that you're scissoring Dorit and saying
that you would date a woman, what changed?
- I mean, I have changed.
I mean, I grew up with-- you know,
everything had to be, like, you know, by the book,
and everything your mom teaches you,
that's what you have to think and believe and--
- Right. - In this last year and a half,
I have changed, and I don't know what the future holds.
So why wouldn't I say maybe? - All right. Okay.
Good. - And I don't think any of us
would be judgmental or care. - I know.
- We would be supportive. It doesn't matter.
- Yes.
Well, that's kind. - Yeah.
- And we'll be right back after this.
Coming up...
- I'm gonna tell everybody now what really happened.
- You have proven to be a liar.
[tense music]
- We are back
with "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen.
New wife, busy mom, and fitness fanatic Annemarie
was rated an 8.5 by her husband,
which, to be fair, is a solid B.
But questions about her job title
and Sutton's esophagus had Crystal calling her a B,
as well as a few other names.
Watch.
- Hi. - You look gorgeous.
- How are you? Oh, my God. - Mwah.
Good to see you. - So beautiful.
- Annemarie Wiley is a new friend of mine.
She is married to Marcellus Wiley,
who is a ex-NFL football player.
You have a very fiery side.
- I mean-- [laughter]
Talk to Marcellus about that. - Your husband told me ev--
- Talk to my husband about that.
- Darling, I love y'all.
- Hi. - [laughs] What's up?
- Marcellus, he always tells me
that the reason he fell in love with me
is because he's like, "You're an 8 1/2 at everything."
Livy, what shoes are you wearing today, baby?
He's like, "You're not a 10 in looks.
"You're not a 10 as an athlete.
You're not a 10 in brains."
He's like, "But you are a solid 8 1/2
at everything you do."
If you have, like, a stricture in your esophagus,
all you do is chew your food more.
- Why am I having a doctor's appointment right now?
- I don't know Annemarie well, but that bitch is nosy.
When I met Annemarie around Christmas,
she told me she was a doctor.
[tense music]
- And not a nurse? - Yeah.
- I have a board-certified doctor, GI...
- Great. - That I've seen.
- I am trained to be a critical thinker.
So when I hear something that doesn't make sense--
- Oh, my God.
- We try to put--Crystal, didn't you wanna go
to med school? If you'd gone
to med school, you'd get that.
- Did you go to medical school?
- Here we go. Here we go. - And then you--
- Like, downplaying my profession again.
- Let me tell you something.
No, no, no. You're such a bitch!
What is wrong with you?
* *
- All right, lots to talk about,
including a certain esophagus, but we'll get to that later.
First, ladies, are you surprised
that Annemarie is proud of her 8.5?
- [laughs] all: Yes.
- My husband and I are best friends.
Like, that is my homey, right?
Like, we can joke about things like that.
- How would you rate him?
- He's--yeah, he's, like, an 8 1/2 too.
Like-- - Okay.
- You can't give him more than that.
- No, but also-- - Yeah, no.
There's no way.
- I want to express my condolences to you.
I know your mom recently passed.
What can you tell us about her?
- Um.
- What was her name?
- Her name was Jane.
[sighs]
She had this terrible cough.
So I made her a doctor's appointment,
and they found an 8x7-centimeter tumor
in her lung.
- Wow.
- It's been a hard year.
- And all this was going on...
- While she was filming, yeah. - While you were filming
the show. - Yeah.
- You didn't share it with the others?
- And at a certain point, I was like, you know what,
I just wanna compartmentalize and not have to.
- I'm sorry.
I want to make a little bit of a right turn.
- Yep. - Okay.
[Annemarie sniffles]
Bringing back to one of the first times
we met you on the show... - Mm-hmm.
- You really wasted no time kind of
calling things as you saw them.
The Third King said,
"Annemarie is gonna be an opinionated newbie, I can tell.
She certainly has no problem getting her thoughts across."
- Does everybody know what's going on,
or am I literally the only one in the dark?
Kyle can't get new jewelry, and Kyle can't get fit?
Is that what we're saying, essentially?
- I guess so. - Pretty much.
- Okay.
- You seem very confident.
- Um, I am.
I always do speak my mind, and I'm always very honest
with things that I observe and I see,
because I feel like that's truly the only way
to get to know people.
- It wasn't all positive feedback.
In some viewers' eyes, you could just do no right.
What was the hardest part about the negative feedback?
- I can take criticism, because I was an athlete.
You know, like, I grew up being criticized my whole life,
like, "You need to do this, you need to do this better."
But I did internalize it, and I do internalize it.
- Well, it's really hard... - It's hard.
- And there's no preparing anyone
for the criticism that comes
when you go on a show like this.
- Yeah.
- You met Crystal before joining the group.
What did you think of her then,
and was she the same or different on the show?
- Crystal was awesome off camera,
and then when the cameras went up,
it's just-- it was a different tune.
- We saw you tell Garcelle that when you first met Annemarie,
she claimed to be a doctor.
Anesthesiologist and anesthetist
are two very similar words.
Is it possible that you misheard her?
- No, and my sister-- I have a half sister
who's an anesthesiologist... - Okay.
- So we had that conversation.
And you said, "I'm an anesthesiologist,"
and I said, "Oh, my sister's an anesthesiologist,
and she has a private practice at Cedars."
And you said, "Oh, I'm a nurse anesthetist."
I was like, "Oh." And you said,
"Well, people don't know the difference."
- I'm gonna tell everybody now what really happened.
So when Crystal and I first met,
"What do you do?" "I'm a housewife."
- No one talks like that.
I would never walk in and be like, "Hi, I'm a housewife,
and I talk like that." - The only--the only reason
that I'm not talking over you right now is
'cause I'm not gonna do that today.
I'm not gonna talk over you and I'm not gonna argue with you.
- You have proven to be a liar. - I--
oh, I'm so sorry, did you not insinuate--
- Have you not? - Did you not insinuate--
- Did you not say that I said that she...
- Did you not insinuate-- - Had an eating disorder twice?
- I'm not--okay. Yeah. I will get to that.
Did you not insinuate-- - You have proven to be a liar.
- I'm not yelling. I'm not gonna yell.
- I think "liar's" a strong w-- - Well, I'm curious.
- I'm not yelling. - Ladies, who do you believe?
- I knew she was a nurse anesthetist.
- Of course, 'cause you're on the show.
We're talking about when I met her.
- I'm just tell you my experience.
- Okay.
- I think that you just intentionally
misrepresent because people don't know the difference.
- Can I explain why it's such a big deal?
- Yes, explain why it's a big deal.
- American Society of Anesthesiologists
and the American Association of Nurse Anesthesiology,
there are a lot of political issues
that exist there.
It's almost like there is a market turf war.
- For what reason?
Is it because a doctor and the nurse can do the same thing?
- Yes. - They can do the same thing,
and they're taking business-- - But for a different price.
It's for a different price. - But for a different price.
- Different--price difference. - It's a different price.
- They're paying less.
- How does--how does the anesthesiologist
that you work with or under feel about this comment?
- Okay, so number one, I--I'm an independent practitioner.
I am a solo practitioner.
I don't work under an anesthesiologist.
- But you need to work under a group
under an anesthesiologist's care
or an MD.
- I do not, actually.
No, we do not. There are 23 states and Guam
that are states that don't require physician--
- Erika, is that right?
- Physician anesthesiologist's--
physician anesthesiologist's supervision.
And I also want to point out-- - There's--okay, you realize...
- I'm not talking over her. - Physician anesthesiologist
is redundant.
Anesthesiologist means an MD.
An anesthesiologist is a doctor.
Anesthetist is a nurse. - I know, but there's also
dental anesthesiologists.
There's also veterinary anesthesiologists.
Nurse anesthetists are actually the ones
who started doing anesthesia during the Civil War.
- At the end of the day, they're just MDs.
They're anesthesiologists.
- Crystal, I get that you are really, really trying
to downplay CRNAs and nurses.
- See, that's what you try to do with everyone.
You literally told everyone that we don't appreciate nurses.
- You did this the whole time. 'Cause you don't.
- No, no, no, no. And see, that's the thing
we had a problem with,
because you thought when this-- - Garcelle, this woman
is attacking my profession,
and I am getting professional heat because of her lies.
- I'm not attacking your profession.
I'm attacking that you're not telling the truth.
- I'm not playing this game with you guys.
- I'm just telling you the truth.
And it'd be easier if you just said it,
that you sometimes blur the line.
But how you weaponized
your profession against her... - Oh, here we go.
- That's when it was like, I had it.
But it's the truth.
- Annemarie, why did Sutton's story
about her esophagus bother you so much?
- I guess the way it was presented to me
was just really odd, but I just--I wanna say this.
Watching everything back and seeing how I behaved,
how I handled the entire situation,
I just wanna apologize to you because I can't even tell you
how much I hated watching it.
- I wasn't angry about the esophagus.
It was the going behind my back and talking about it,
and saying that I had an eating disorder,
and that I was hiding behind this ailment
to have an eating disorder.
That was really hurtful. - Right.
Got a lot of response from viewers who were thanking you
for spreading awareness about it, viewers who suffered from--
- Who knew there were so many people with...
- And there are. - This esophageal disorder.
- We heard from a lot of people who have it.
- I know. - Well, you brought awareness.
- And in not a very-- not a--not the--
- In a very roundabout way,
in the most worst way possible, but--
I'm ver--I'm very sorry.
I'm very sorry.
- It feels very genuine.
- Yeah, and, you know, it's a lesson learned.
We all make mistakes in this group.
God knows. - There you go.
We'll be right back.
Coming up...
- As an Asian person,
"child bride" is equivalent to "mail-order bride."
- Guys, listen to what Vanderpump did.
She met Crystal
and she said, "And who are you?"
Crystal had to say, "I'm on the show."
- Right. - And she said, "Oh."
She said, "Is Kyle still on?"
Oh, fuck you. - Can you believe?
- No. - Yes.
Yes, that is really funny.
- All right, everybody, here we go.
We're gonna count to the jib.
- Welcome back
to "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.
Well, a few people in this group
have accused Crystal of not speaking up,
but when Annemarie made her blood boil,
Crystal found her voice real quick.
Watch.
- Cheers, everybody.
- Cheers. - And happy birthday, Crystal.
- Cheers. [cheering]
- Here's the truth, Crystal needs to get out of her shell.
[cheers and applause]
- The girls are all so skinny now.
Sometimes I can't focus.
- Are you the Incredible Shrinking Woman?
- You're so skinny. - No, are you?
- [laughs] - Oh, my God.
- So skinny.
- The girls keeps saying to me, like,
"You're not speaking up." You know, "You're so quiet."
Why do I have to get to a point to, like, scream...
- Who told you to scream? - And people listen?
This group wants me to scream all the fucking time!
- I think you have a lot of very strong opinions.
You just need to share that with them.
- Let's talk about the Crystal situation.
The first thing Crystal said to me about this group of women
was you ladies were not intelligent.
- Damn. - Nobody was educated,
and you're very shallow.
- That's false. I never said those things.
No, these women are quite savvy,
but they're clearly not highly educated.
- By the way, child bride,
while you were busy getting married at 12,
the rest of us were building businesses,
graduating college, doing things,
you know, to educate ourselves.
- You know, we have bumps in the road,
but you have to just agree to disagree.
- Yeah.
- My intention was and is to move on.
- I really do wanna move forward.
- I genuinely thought that Annemarie would move on
when pigs flew, so I'm like, "Where are the fucking pigs?"
- All right.
You told Rob the reason that you're quiet
in group settings is because you're preoccupied
thinking about how skinny everybody is.
- Yeah, everyone has gotten very thin the last two years,
and I spend my life feeling uncomfortable in my skin
all the time, so I'm constantly comparing,
looking--since I was 11,
it's just--it's part of my existence.
- At the Homeless Not Toothless event,
we saw a side of you we had never seen,
including shouting "bitch" loud enough
for half the ballroom to hear.
What was it about Annemarie
in this moment that pushed you?
- It was actually because it was about an eating disorder.
- Okay. - And so it's, like,
the one thing I would never say about someone,
because I suffer daily, minute by minute.
So it was like-- I felt like I was crazy.
- There was more to that conversation.
That's why I said it.
- Are you ever gonna apologize to me
for saying that I said she had an eating disorder?
- I didn't say you had an eating disorder. I said--
Sutton, Crystal did not say you had an eating disorder.
I didn't say you had an eating disorder, period.
Neither of us said you had an eating disorder.
We do not think you have an eating disorder.
- Mm, good. 'Cause I don't.
- It's crazy.
- Well, as we moved into Spain,
Annemarie claimed that Crystal had called all of you
shallow, uneducated, fake socialites.
- Yeah. [laughs] - Crystal, you denied it.
What did you make of the interview tape
where you said none of the ladies were highly educated?
- Yeah-- - I believe she said that
because she intimated things like that by saying,
"Those are some big words for you."
- But this is what I always say this when people ask me.
I say, "We have dumb-ass conversations."
- We knew that. - But also, like, another thing
I wanna say, too, is, like, there have been,
like, instances where you've been, like,
you know, less than truthful.
Like, you denied saying it. - Don't throw rocks because...
- Later you admitted to say-- - Because you are proven
to constantly lie on the show.
So I wouldn't do that. Be careful.
- You tried to insinuate that Sutton was racist
for a year by saying she said something "so dark,"
and then you said, "Oh, it was just a feeling."
You made it up.
- No, no, no. I never made it up.
- The lie about your 14 friends.
- And now you're lying about me.
And I'm like, I don't wanna be part of that.
Like, I don't want to be part of, like, your system of lies.
- You're not a part of it, so don't worry about it.
- More than the shallow or fake socialite allegations, Dorit,
you seem particularly offended
by the slight on your education.
Why?
- I think I'm the only one here with a college degree.
- Wait a second. She's-- - What?
- Well-- [laughter]
- What? - Hold on. Wait a second.
- Wait a minute, one?
- No, I'm not talking about-- - Don't--not me.
- Two, three. - You can still be smart
if you don't have a college degree.
- No, I-I-- - Okay, but the three of them.
I mean, you've got three people here.
- And I'm gonna stand by the uneducated comment
based on you calling me a child bride.
That is a disgusting thing to say.
- You know, they call Priscilla Presley
a child bride. I mean--
- Okay. I'm an Asian person.
- It's not. It's the Asian...
- As an Asian person,
"child bride" is equivalent to "mail-order bride."
Do you know that?
Do you know that now? - Now I do.
And, obviously, it was a throwaway comment
in my confessional.
That was not what I was insinuating.
It was off the back of you calling us unintelligent.
- But the other part of it, saying you were 12,
I always say, if I'm saying someone's young,
I'll be like, "They were, like, 12."
That's, like, the number that people seem to say.
- And you said that I got married at 12.
I got married at 24.
I had already gone to college,
and I've built a company worth over $100 million right now.
- Wow. - The coconut water.
both: Yes. - Amazing.
- So for you to say that you were in college
and getting all this education, building businesses,
while I'm getting married at 12 years old is bullshit.
It's a microaggressive comment. - I totally understand.
Well, that was not my intention.
And so lesson learned, and I appreciate it.
- It feels macro, not micro.
- Crystal, you found your voice this year.
You used it loudly.
What message do you hope that we heard the loudest?
- I'm here, and I actually am loving it,
so... [laughs] That's it.
- There you go. - Yeah.
- All right. We're gonna take a break.
We're gonna be right back after this.
- I have a problem. I have to pee.
- I just need to stand up. - Oh boy.
Coming up...
- To me, it feels like you wanted to be on the side
of whatever the audience thinks and agrees with.
- Kyle... - It seems like--
- That is the most hysterical thing
- Welcome back
to "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.
Well, she's the "Beverly Hills" OG,
but the Kyle Richards who showed up this year
was almost unrecognizable--
new tattoos, a new fitness regime,
no booze, and no more people-pleasing.
But how did this new Kyle fit in with her old friends?
Let's take a look.
- I'm at a point in my life
I don't have to explain anything to anybody anymore,
including you.
[tense music]
- And I walk out here and who is
in her full gym look with her Birkin?
Does the Birkin need to work out?
- How many tattoos do you have right now?
- Five. - Five tattoos is a lot.
- What, are you preparing for prison?
Well, it's a lot of tattoos.
- Preparing for prison?
- How long is this gonna go on?
- I asked the same fucking thing.
- Everyone wants me to drop a split
and do the helicopter with my ponytail.
I mean, I'm fun no matter what.
Okay?
Would you ever date a woman?
- Would I-- - Would you?
- Uh...
yeah.
People are like, "I don't understand this friendship."
- Well, I mean, you are kind of morphing into one another.
[Kyle laughs] You're morphing into her.
You put the first letter of your name on her body.
- That is spicy.
- Well, I guess I have to put your initial on my body
for you to actually care. - [laughs]
- What are you currently dealing with
that is triggering you?
- My very, very, very best friend in my whole life,
she took her life on May 1st.
Lorene was my other half.
To lose someone like that-- that is, like--
I just never imagined something like this could happen.
[crying]
I hope everyone remembers Lorene as a beautiful,
energetic, positive, funny, smart and loving, devoted mom,
wife, daughter, sister, and friend that she was.
Since Lorene died, I don't want to have a wasted day
of not feeling good or spending time with people
that I don't wanna spend my time with.
- All right.
A big motivation for the changes in your life,
Kyle, was revealed when we learned
that your best friend since the age of seven, Lorene,
had tragically died by suicide.
Where are you in the grieving process?
- [sighs] Well, I think there's days that--
I've learned in therapy that I think I'm doing
this disassociation thing where if something is too painful,
I try not to think about it at all.
And other days, I can barely move
from the sofa, so it just depends.
- At the celebration of life,
I know you welcomed the support of the ladies.
But at other points in the season,
there was a marked distance between you and your friends,
especially Dorit.
It seems like maybe that began last year
when we were all together,
you said that you were disappointed in Dorit
for how she handled the Kathy situation
at the reunion.
Dorit, had you suspected this, or was that a shock?
- This I really wanna get into
because, um, I really wanna understand.
I can say this with absolute assurance,
there's nothing I've ever wanted more
than for you and Kathy to be okay.
Period.
I have a relationship with Kathy,
which was independent of my relationship with you.
I didn't wanna get in the middle.
- But you don't--you didn't know her that well.
- Kyle-- - I mean, it's not like you--
- I had never spent time with Kathy with you
up until she filmed the show. - Right, but I'm saying
at an event or a party.
My point is, we were closer.
And the conversations that we were having
led me to believe that, you know...
- That what?
- That you seemed to be very disappointed in her behavior.
- Only when you would tell me stories
that I never knew about from the past.
Obviously, I felt bad.
There were stories, and I don't wanna bring up here.
That is the only time
that I would say, "Oh, my goodness."
- No, it was the stuff that happened about Aspen
and everything too.
- What?
- Anyway, I'm not gonna get into that.
- No, I do. I want to.
- No, I'm not-- - I absolutely--
- Because of you, because of my family
and my sister.
It feels like, to me, in that moment, like,
at the reunion last year, that people that didn't know
they were really coming after me,
and they were like, "Rah-rah" to Kathy.
And it seemed like when you said,
"I think Kathy just wanted some support."
- She wants you to accept a little bit
of responsibility in this.
- I don't want you to interject in this right now.
- No problem.
- To me, it feels like you wanted to be on the side
of whatever the audience thinks and agrees with.
It seems like I've noticed that a number of times.
- With me? - Yes.
- I don't even follow what the audience--
I-I never--I am the last person. - Well, like, in BravoCon,
somebody asked a question
and they were very rude about Teddi.
- Why do you keep thrusting Teddi upon these women
when they clearly don't like her?
- Girl. [audience cheers]
- You're trying to make fetch happen,
and I just wanna know why.
- Ooh. - I'd like to know why.
- I'm not trying to make Teddi happen.
She's very much happening in our lives.
And the Teddi that we know is not like the Teddi
that you see on television,
and I don't feel the need to justify
why someone is a good friend to me,
who's been there for me and supported me.
And I'm not trying to make her happen for you, sir.
No disrespect, but she's very much happening for me,
and our friends who love her.
- I like Teddi. She's a friend of mine,
so there you go. - Yeah, I like Teddi too.
I'm like--I knew Teddi actually even before I knew Kyle.
Like, our boys played football against each other.
So Teddi's--Teddi's good people.
- Okay. Next question.
- I like, got upset,
and Erika chimed in and said something.
Even Annemarie did, and it felt like
because you know people love to go after Teddi,
that you didn't want to speak up there either.
- I'm very openly friends with Teddi.
Because I don't want to indulge this person
who's making such a rude, vile comment
that, as far as I'm concerned, I wish he'd just sit down.
- Yeah, but we can't wish that away, he said that.
- But what does that have to do with any--
- It would have been nice to say "Teddi's a great person."
Like, we're on--7,000 people.
- So you're upset with me also for not
defending another friend of yours?
- No, I was like, she just wants to be
on the side of the audience. - Are you kidding me, Kyle?
- That, to me, it feels like you care more
about the audience, and, like--like--
- That is the most hysterical thing I've ever heard.
[tense music]
- Next week, the reunion continues.
- I didn't like the simulation of cunnilingus.
- But do you like it in real life?
I'm just kidding. [laughter]
- I've had an incredibly difficult last two years.
[playful music]
Don't you dare.
- Sorry.
- Well, I thought it was strange
that a robber would leave your phone by the gate
because you asked him to.
- It's just not that crazy. - Okay.
- But what is crazy
is to actually go on national television
and to peddle a false narrative.
- Can you better explain to me
why you sat down with the victims?
- I cannot.
[dramatic music]
- You have been relentlessly mean to me.
- You acted like I did something wrong to you
instead of saying, "Are you okay?
Do you need a friend?"
My family is falling apart.
Don't talk to me about not sharing
what's going on in my life.
- Have you lost your mind? - Well, I'm sorry.
Maybe just buying a horse and your cashmere-lined--
and, you know, isn't enough.
- You're gonna pick on my horse now?
- Oh, we're not allowed to talk about the horse either.
I did not say anything.
There's things I could have said, and I did not,
so how about that?