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NARRATOR:
A fiery object
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crashes into the Earth
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and ignites the modern UFO era.
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It would become the
absolute touchstone event
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and the best‐known
event in the world
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connecting our reality
to the E.T. phenomenon.
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NARRATOR:
For more than seven decades,
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the Army has denied
what it initially reported...
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that it had recovered
a flying disc.
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But could evidence
of such an event still exist?
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‐Oh, my God.
There is something there,
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and we need to dig it up.
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NARRATOR:
Are there remnants
of alien technology
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scattered in the
New Mexico desert?
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LINDA MOULTON HOWE:
I think he's holding something
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made by another intelligence.
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I have never, ever seen
anything like this.
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NARRATOR:
And could materials
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already recovered
soon reveal the truth
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about an extraterrestrial
presence on Earth?
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There's something big
going on here.
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I'm getting chills because
we've got some elements
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that are showing up...
they shouldn't be there.
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GIORGIO A. TSOUKALOS:
If the evidence has not yet been
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uncovered, that does
not mean the evidence
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is not there.
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NARRATOR:
There is a doorway
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in the universe.
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Beyond it is the
promise of truth.
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It demands we
question everything
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we have ever been taught.
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The evidence is all around us.
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The future is right
before our eyes.
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We are not alone.
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We have never been alone.
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NARRATOR:
Los Angeles, California.
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October 2019.
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Ancient astronaut theorist
Giorgio Tsoukalos...
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‐Hey, Linda.
‐...is meeting up
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with investigative journalist
Linda Moulton Howe
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at a secure storage facility.
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‐All right, let's do it.
‐Let's go.
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NARRATOR:
For more than two decades,
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Linda has been in possession of
highly unusual metal fragments
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given to her by
someone who claims
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they were extracted
from an extraterrestrial craft.
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‐Man, this is some door.
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Okay.
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Well, over the years,
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I've learned that this is really
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‐pretty valuable.
‐Right.
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And that I better
keep it in something
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‐like a safety deposit box.
‐Right.
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NARRATOR:
In recent months,
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the United States Army
has taken an interest
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in doing its own examination
of these materials.
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Linda is eager to show
Giorgio just what it is
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that has caught
the Army's attention.
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Here is where the magic
bismuth magnesium zinc resides.
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There it is, inside
the magic box.
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Yeah. Here, I'll take it
over here and show it to you.
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I have found,
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since having this
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in 1996
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and evolving with research, that
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it has become now so valuable.
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What am I looking at, Linda?
What is this?
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Well, here is...
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You see all these layers?
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‐Yeah.
‐When you go to a scanning
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‐electron microscope...
‐Huh.
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...and you see that the black,
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the black side...
it's pure bismuth,
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and it's one to four microns,
which is about
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half the size of a blood cell,
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and then it's alternating
just like a torte cake.
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‐TSOUKALOS: Yeah.
‐And the top silver...
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that's the magnesium‐zinc alloy.
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‐Okay.
‐So,
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layer by layer by layer
in microns.
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TSOUKALOS:
It's almost as if it's reflective, too.
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HOWE:
Yes, and when you get it
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in the sun,
it looks like a snowfield.
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And that's the magnesium zinc.
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NARRATOR:
In addition to this layered material,
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Linda also has an
unusual piece of aluminum.
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HOWE:
As I understand
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from a physicist, it is this
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pure aluminum,
99.5% pure aluminum.
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TSOUKALOS:
As far as I know, we
can't produce 99 point...
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I mean, this is incredibly pure.
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So where were these
pieces allegedly found?
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HOWE:
These came out of White Sands
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in New Mexico,
outside of Roswell.
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Is there a connection
to Roswell with this piece?
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NARRATOR:
In July of 1947,
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an unidentified flying object
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crashed to Earth in the desert
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just outside
Roswell, New Mexico.
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It is today the most famous
UFO event on record,
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in part because it
was the Army itself
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that reported the craft
as a flying disc.
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BILL BIRNES:
July 8 and 9,
the newspaper headlines...
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"Army Captures Flying Disc
Outside of Roswell."
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How did the newspaper get
that story? Walter Haut.
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He was the official
public information officer
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at the Roswell 509th, who gave
the story to the newspaper.
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NARRATOR:
But the military
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quickly walked back its story.
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Within days,
the mysterious Roswell UFO
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was given an earthly origin,
when the government claimed
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that the downed craft was
merely a weather balloon.
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They changed it and said
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it was a weather balloon
and everything else.
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They said they took it
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to Wright‐Patterson
Air Force Base in Ohio.
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RICHARD DOLAN:
When you really think about this,
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why on earth would
anyone send any kind
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of weather balloon to Wright
Field for technical analysis?
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None of it makes any
sense whatsoever,
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unless that material
was much more exotic
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and much more
scientifically interesting
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than just a mere balloon.
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DAVID CHILDRESS:
When you look
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at the whole Roswell incident,
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it seems to be a recovery that
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was very much
a scrambled ad hoc thing.
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And, in fact, witnesses
had been to the crash site
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before the military got there.
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So in the chaos of trying
to clean up this crash site,
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you have to wonder that whether
they would really get it all.
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Where would this material
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actually go?
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And would they have left
some of it behind,
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just by accident?
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NARRATOR:
In April 2011,
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the FBI released thousands
of files
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as part of its online FBI vault,
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including a 1950 briefing
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to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover
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regarding informant information
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about three flying saucers
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that were recovered
in New Mexico.
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Many researchers believe
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this corroborates
long‐standing rumors
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that the Roswell incident
involved not one
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but three crashed UFOs.
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And there were numerous
other incidents reported
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during that time
period in the area
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of Roswell and White
Sands Proving Ground
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that remain mostly unknown.
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You look at where the world
today, when they think
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of a UFO crash,
they think of Roswell.
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‐Mm‐hmm.
‐Certainly there
have been crashes
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in New Mexico
outside of Roswell.
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We know that there were a lot
of UFO crashes going
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from the '40... like,
'47, '48, '49, and so forth.
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How did you come into
possession of these pieces?
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Well, I'll never forget the
day that Art Bell called me,
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and he said,
"Linda, I received a box
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with a letter, and there's
some metal pieces in here."
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He said,
"I think they're aluminum,
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but I want you
to start investigating."
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That would have been
in 1996, that spring.
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NARRATOR:
Art Bell was the founder
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and original host
of the long‐running,
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paranormal‐themed radio program
Coast to Coast AM.
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In 1996, he and Linda began
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to receive shipments in the mail
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of small metallic fragments.
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We started getting two shipments
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coming from a man
who identified himself
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in a series of five
typed letters.
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And he said he was
an Army sergeant,
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that his grandfather
had died in 1974,
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and had left a box
that had a diary and metals.
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And the Army sergeant said,
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"I want you to have this
and see what you can find out."
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NARRATOR:
The letters detail
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how the grandfather extracted
the metallic items
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from a wedge‐shaped craft
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while working as a member
of a recovery crew
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between Roswell and White Sands
Proving Ground in 1948.
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Art Bell turned over these
mysterious fragments and letters
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to Linda Moulton Howe
for further study.
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In June of 1996,
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Linda commissioned
university researchers
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to use a scanning
electron microscope
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and a technique known as "X‐ray
fluorescence spectrometry"
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to analyze the samples.
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The analysis revealed
alternating microscopic layers
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of the metals bismuth,
magnesium and zinc
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only microns thick,
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a combination that baffles
exotic metal experts.
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GEORGE KNAPP:
I think we've got technology
that we didn't make.
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A lot of people
have come forward
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with bits and pieces
of the same tale.
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We are presently
analyzing metamaterials
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that we did not make,
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that's created in a way
that is beyond our technology.
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TSOUKALOS:
Are there more pieces
of these items?
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Well, for the last,
uh, 15 years,
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I had a combination
of another piece
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of the bismuth magnesium zinc
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and another smaller
piece of the aluminum.
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So, the pair that I had
before is now involved
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with military testing.
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NARRATOR:
In 2019,
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Linda handed over
additional samples
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of the exotic metals
for examination
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by the United States Army.
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As far as Linda is concerned,
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even though the fragments were
allegedly taken from a craft
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that was in the Army's
possession in 1948,
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there are likely only
a handful of people
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who are aware of its existence.
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She is hopeful that the
examination of her materials
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will prove that they were not
manufactured on Earth,
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and perhaps those who know
what really happened at Roswell
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will finally reveal
both the truth
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and what they recovered
to the public.
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Do you have any new leads
that maybe happened recently
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of someone that has
found other material?
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Well, there is a geologist
down in Roswell,
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and he has sent
me e‐mails saying
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that he's got exotic metals
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and all of these materials.
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And I think we
could go down there,
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see what he has found so far,
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and maybe go out with him
and explore ourselves.
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Awesome. Let's go.
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NARRATOR:
If multiple flying discs
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crashed in the New
Mexico desert in 1947,
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was all the debris
recovered long ago?
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Or could there be remnants
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that were spirited away
by curious locals
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and military personnel,
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and some still lying
out in the open,
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waiting to be found?
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NARRATOR:
Roswell, New Mexico.
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July 1947.
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NARRATOR:
Major Jesse Marcel,
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the head intelligence officer
at Roswell Army Air Field,
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travels to Fort Worth, Texas,
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with the debris recovered
from the Roswell crash site.
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He and Brigadier General
Roger Ramey,
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head of the Eighth Air Force,
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are scheduled to present
their findings to the media.
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BIRNES:
Jesse Marcel flies to Fort Worth,
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the headquarters of
the Eighth Air Force,
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and he's set up
to tell the whole world
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about the crash of a
flying saucer at Roswell,
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except Roger Ramey
says to Jesse Marcel,
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"Could you just go in the
map room for a second?
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I want to arrange
some stuff out here."
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The story from Jesse Marcel
and from the photographer
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is that the real wreckage
had been spirited away.
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"Hold up something.
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"Get some Reynolds Wrap out...
off‐off the fish in your freezer
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and hold it up and say that's
what you found, not a disc,"
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which is exactly what they did.
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And the reporters basically just
turned around, went home.
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NARRATOR:
For UFO researchers,
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evidence that the actual
wreckage from Roswell
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was indeed replaced
with a weather balloon
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can be found within the
notorious photograph,
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along with clues as to what was
being hidden from the public.
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When General Roger Ramey was,
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uh, posing for photographs
with Jesse Marcel,
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in the aftermath of all this,
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you can see him very clearly
holding a piece of paper.
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POPE:
General Ramey had a
document in his hands,
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the so‐called Ramey Memo.
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Modern forensic
document analysis
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and photographic enhancement
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has enabled some researchers
to zoom in on this
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and to clarify at least
some portions of the text.
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What it tells us is astounding.
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Some of the phrases in the memo
are "victims of the wreck"
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and "disc which we will ship."
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So, clearly,
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if the official story is true,
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well, this makes no sense.
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No, clearly, something more
than just a weather balloon
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was involved here,
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and the memo might
just be the smoking gun.
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NARRATOR:
As far as Roswell researchers
are concerned,
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the memo points to a cover‐up,
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with the downed UFO
and its extraterrestrial crew
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being shipped from the base
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and locked away
from the public eye.
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But if true,
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might there be fragments
of evidence from the crash
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that were small enough
to slip through the cracks?
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The question is always, well,
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where is the evidence,
where is the evidence?
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Well, if the evidence
has not yet been uncovered
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or dug out of the ground,
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that does not mean
the evidence is not there.
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NARRATOR:
Central New Mexico.
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October 19, 2019.
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Investigative journalist
Linda Moulton Howe
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has invited ancient astronaut
theorist Giorgio Tsoukalos
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to join her on a trip
to a spot in the desert
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just outside Roswell,
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very near what is known
as the "skip site."
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According to eyewitnesses,
one of the three UFOs
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seen in the sky in July 1947
first crashed to Earth
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near this location, then was
propelled back into the air,
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skipping like a stone in a pond
before finally coming to rest.
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Linda was contacted
by geologist Frank Kimbler,
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who wants to show her
mysterious metal fragments
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that he found here and
search the area for more.
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TSOUKALOS:
Linda, this is so exciting.
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I have not been here
in a couple of years.
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So, I'm really looking forward
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‐t‐to meeting Frank.
‐Yeah.
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Well, I'm glad that we've got
a geologist who's helping,
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because the geologist
looks at land
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and says if there is debris,
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there's going to be some
kind of a drift with the land.
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And, just from what I know,
he has studied
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some areas meticulously.
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Right.
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NARRATOR: Giorgio and Linda
arrive at the skip site
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and meet Frank Kimbler,
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a local geologist and
professor of Earth science.
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‐How are you? Good to see you.
‐Nice to meet you. How are you?
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‐All right.
‐Frank, it is...
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‐Linda. Finally.
‐Yes.
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You and I have been
chasing these artifacts
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‐from UFOs...
‐Chasing the metals...
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‐...for so many years.
‐...looking for, looking for parts.
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‐Yes!
‐It's great.
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NARRATOR: Professor Kimbler
has spent nearly a decade
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searching areas beneath
the purported trajectory
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of the Roswell craft
with infrared technology
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and metal detectors.
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KIMBLER:
When an object crashes,
they're gonna scatter
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a variety of materials around.
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Knobs, control devices,
plastic, wires, whatever.
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If it's coming apart, it's gonna
leave those pieces behind.
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And those are the kinds
of pieces that I want to find
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and have found some of.
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NARRATOR:
Since 2011,
Professor Kimbler has uncovered
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more than a dozen metal
fragments that he has subjected
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to scientific testing and
found to be highly unique.
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That's what...
We want to go out there and see
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‐where you've been getting this.
‐TSOUKALOS: Yeah, I can't wait.
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‐Frank.
‐Yeah?
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What's inside the case?
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Oh, this, this is
the magic right here.
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This is some of the material
that I have found
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out here, uh,
using a metal detector.
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‐Uh...
‐TSOUKALOS: Interesting.
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KIMBLER:
This stuff is, is very interesting.
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It's all twisted and mangled up.
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Something that you would expect
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to happen from a, uh, a‐a crash
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is to have metal that's‐that's
compact and twisted.
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When Professor Kimbler laid out
his box of his pieces of metal,
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the first thing that struck me
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is these were
tiny, tiny, tiny fragments.
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Could they possibly be
from wreckage?
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These pieces are small, uh,
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which is things that the
government would have missed.
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‐Uh, yeah.
‐They wouldn't have
been able to find it.
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And here's my magic.
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Let's get a comparison here.
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‐KIMBLER: Oh, look at that.
‐This...
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HOWE:
Look at... it's like a snowfield.
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After all these years, the...
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all of the pieces,
they look absolutely pristine.
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That's the magnesium zinc side.
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KIMBLER:
This has got layers to it,
and that's amazing. That's...
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‐But I bet you've never seen
anything like this.
‐No.
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Being an Earth scientist,
being a geologist,
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I've seen lots of all kinds
of materials that are out there.
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I have never, ever seen
anything like this.
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This fragment that
Linda is showing me,
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it... that stuff
is absolutely amazing.
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I've never seen anything
like it before in my life.
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And what's interesting about it
is that it has some layers,
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some banding on it.
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And that banding is very similar
to some of the banding
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that I found in photomicrographs
of the material
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that I have from out here.
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I think,
as Giorgio is holding this,
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he's holding something made
by another intelligence
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from some place
we don't understand.
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And this is truly
extraterrestrial.
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NARRATOR:
Is it possible that Giorgio
is holding an actual fragment
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of an extraterrestrial craft?
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And if so, could even more
incredible artifacts
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still remain in the desert
outside Roswell?
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NARRATOR: Ancient astronaut
theorist Giorgio Tsoukalos
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and investigative journalist
Linda Moulton Howe
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are in an area
outside Roswell, New Mexico
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with geologist Frank Kimbler.
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I've got one of the, uh, the
infrared pictures right here,
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that actually is,
it's kind of contrast‐enhanced.
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NARRATOR:
As far as Professor Kimbler
is concerned,
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if one or more
extraterrestrial crafts
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really did crash in the desert,
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the best place to find
more debris is right here.
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Right now we are roughly about
maybe two, two and a half miles
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from where the object
skipped down,
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according to
eyewitness accounts.
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This is actually the disturbed
area right here,
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which is right
where we're going.
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And it's right where
the eyewitness account
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basically says that
the craft left a furrow.
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So you can tell
that something went on.
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It even looks like there's
a little a gouge mark
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that was left by the
craft as it came in.
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NARRATOR:
The disturbed area that
Professor Kimbler identified
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has become known as the "gouge."
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In 2002, an archeological dig
was conducted in this area
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by the University of
New Mexico, Albuquerque,
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to search for topographical
evidence of a UFO crash.
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KIMBLER:
They found a V‐shaped gouge
that seemed to indicate
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that something came down
and skated across the ground,
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like a typical aircraft
crashing into the ground,
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leaving a‐a big furrow there.
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NARRATOR:
Author Donald Schmitt,
an advisor
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to the International UFO
Museum & Research Center
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board of directors,
took part in the excavation.
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DONALD SCHMITT:
We flagged that area,
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did electromagnetic
sensory testing of the sites
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to sift through possible
samples from the crash.
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All in an attempt to find
a piece of that missing evidence
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that would demonstrate
once and for all
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that this was something
extraordinary.
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NARRATOR:
The dig collected
countless soil samples
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from in and around the gouge.
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But curiously, access to this
wealth of potential evidence
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has been restricted
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by the Bureau of Land
Management ever since.
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KIMBLER:
There's 600 pounds of
stuff stored in a vault
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in the Maxwell Museum
at the University of New Mexico
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that nobody has looked at,
and it needs to be looked at.
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NARRATOR:
Demands by UFO researchers
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to be given access
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to the contents of the 2002 dig
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have fallen on deaf ears.
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In the nearly two decades since,
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the V‐shaped gouge has been
filled in with sediment,
448
00:21:49,934 --> 00:21:51,477
but many believe
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that if there is more
debris still to be found,
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it is most likely
to be found here.
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We need to get going,
and we need to get out there
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so you guys can experience
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finding some of this stuff,
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‐which is amazing.
‐TSOUKALOS: All right.
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Let's go explore.
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HOWE:
So, where do you
think's best here now?
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KIMBLER:
We're in the perfect spot.
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And we're gonna cover
this whole thing right here.
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NARRATOR:
Uncovering bits of debris
in this vast desert
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is a daunting task,
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but after nearly a decade
spent combing the entire area,
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Professor Kimbler has
pinpointed certain hot spots.
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Some of the artifacts
he brought with him today
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were discovered
in this very location
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just within the past month.
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So, just above the
area of the ground,
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we're gonna sweep
back and forth like this.
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We're gonna cover this
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side to side,
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back and forth,
little by little.
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I've been out here
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six or seven or eight hours
at a whack swinging this thing
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till my arms break off.
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We can, uh, cut across this way.
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HOWE:
You're waiting for that beep.
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We're looking off in‐in
this general direction out here.
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The craft basically
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either had some kind
of mechanical failure
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or something blew up.
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NARRATOR:
Professor Kimbler scans
the area along the gouge,
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meticulously covering
every inch.
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After nearly two hours,
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he has not detected
any metal objects.
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Giorgio,
my arm is about to break off,
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and I'm kind of hoping
that you just might have
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‐a little bit better luck
than me doing this.
‐Sure. Let's see.
487
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:22,192
‐You saw what I was doing,
it's already fired up.
‐Yep. Okay.
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And I'm gonna let you
swing this. And we can just...
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‐Let's see if it's working.
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‐There you go,
it's working perfect.
‐Great. Perfect. Excellent.
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Maybe you'll be able to...
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‐to get the magic flowing on this.
‐Mm‐hmm.
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I think we need to head up
right over here because
494
00:23:34,914 --> 00:23:36,332
this is right at
the base of the hill
495
00:23:36,332 --> 00:23:38,292
and there's a bunch
of disturbed rocks.
496
00:23:38,292 --> 00:23:39,919
Might be a good place to, uh,
497
00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:41,670
‐to capture material
that has run off.
‐Okay.
498
00:23:41,670 --> 00:23:43,881
‐It's also...
‐Oh!
499
00:23:43,881 --> 00:23:47,259
NARRATOR:
Within just a few minutes of
taking over the metal detecting,
500
00:23:47,259 --> 00:23:48,594
Giorgio gets a hit.
501
00:23:48,594 --> 00:23:49,803
KIMBLER:
I heard something.
502
00:23:49,803 --> 00:23:50,804
TSOUKALOS:
Yeah.
503
00:23:50,804 --> 00:23:52,806
‐There is something.
504
00:23:52,806 --> 00:23:54,808
KIMBLER:
Oh, my God.
505
00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:00,606
KIMBLER:
There is something there
and we need to dig it up.
506
00:24:00,606 --> 00:24:02,441
‐Let me help you find it.
‐Okay.
507
00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:04,276
It's right here somewhere.
508
00:24:04,276 --> 00:24:05,694
‐We'll find it.
‐It's right here.
509
00:24:05,694 --> 00:24:08,155
‐We will find it.
510
00:24:08,155 --> 00:24:09,448
KIMBLER:
You're on top of it.
511
00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,116
‐You're right there.
‐Right there.
512
00:24:14,495 --> 00:24:16,664
See if it's there.
513
00:24:16,664 --> 00:24:18,123
It's in my hand.
514
00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:19,166
Wow.
515
00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:21,418
Now comes the hard part.
516
00:24:21,418 --> 00:24:24,004
‐It's a‐a piece of wire.
517
00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:25,464
All right. Okay.
518
00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:28,008
‐A tiny little piece of wire.
‐Little wire.
519
00:24:28,008 --> 00:24:30,302
KIMBLER:
We're gonna keep it. We're gonna
take it and have it analyzed
520
00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:33,013
because maybe it's got
something in it that's weird.
521
00:24:33,013 --> 00:24:34,765
Let's still investigate this.
522
00:24:34,765 --> 00:24:36,892
KIMBLER:
We need to take it
and‐and have it tested.
523
00:24:36,892 --> 00:24:40,062
NARRATOR:
Giorgio hands off the
metal detector to Linda,
524
00:24:40,062 --> 00:24:41,730
who continues along the gouge.
525
00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:44,817
Just a few feet from
where Giorgio detected
526
00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:46,819
‐a piece of wire...
‐Oh.
527
00:24:46,819 --> 00:24:48,320
...they get another hit.
528
00:24:52,658 --> 00:24:54,785
‐All right. Oh.
‐Pick up your, uh,
your bracelet, too.
529
00:24:54,785 --> 00:24:57,162
I tell you what,
let's, um, dump it,
530
00:24:57,162 --> 00:24:59,415
dump it into this hand,
right here.
531
00:24:59,415 --> 00:25:00,833
There we go.
532
00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:03,002
It's another piece of wire.
533
00:25:03,002 --> 00:25:04,670
TSOUKALOS:
This is strange‐looking, though.
534
00:25:04,670 --> 00:25:08,424
‐Why is it so twisted and mangled?
‐I have no idea.
535
00:25:08,424 --> 00:25:11,593
TSOUKALOS:
You said that if there was debris,
536
00:25:11,593 --> 00:25:13,554
this would be one of the places
537
00:25:13,554 --> 00:25:15,889
because of the geographic, uh...
538
00:25:15,889 --> 00:25:17,474
‐terrain right here.
‐It's, it's runoff,
539
00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:20,978
and this is what I've used time
and time again to find stuff.
540
00:25:20,978 --> 00:25:23,981
NARRATOR:
As far as Giorgio and
Linda are concerned,
541
00:25:23,981 --> 00:25:27,192
any metal objects found in
the so‐called "gouge" area
542
00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:28,736
are worth examining.
543
00:25:28,736 --> 00:25:32,865
Is it possible that these
bits of wire represent debris
544
00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:37,536
from the 1947 crash that was
overlooked by the military?
545
00:25:45,044 --> 00:25:48,797
NARRATOR:
Sergeant Melvin E. Brown,
who served in
546
00:25:48,797 --> 00:25:53,177
the 509th Atomic Bomb Squadron
for the U.S. Army Air Force,
547
00:25:53,177 --> 00:25:56,680
lies on his deathbed
at a local hospital.
548
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,142
With his dying words,
Brown reveals to his family
549
00:26:00,142 --> 00:26:03,604
a secret that he has kept
hidden for nearly 40 years...
550
00:26:03,604 --> 00:26:08,609
a secret about
what he saw in 1947
551
00:26:08,609 --> 00:26:11,528
when he was stationed
in Roswell, New Mexico.
552
00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:17,159
Sergeant Melvin Brown is
another key player in all of this.
553
00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,830
He was rounded up
by higher command
554
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:23,832
in the aftermath of the crash.
555
00:26:23,832 --> 00:26:26,585
He was essentially
put on guard duty.
556
00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:31,882
And, intriguingly, there were
some low flatbed lorries
557
00:26:31,882 --> 00:26:33,884
with tarpaulins over them.
558
00:26:35,135 --> 00:26:37,346
SCHMITT:
The first opportunity he got,
559
00:26:37,346 --> 00:26:39,681
he peeked inside
the back of the truck.
560
00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:42,184
And there, under a canvas tarp,
561
00:26:42,184 --> 00:26:44,770
were two of the bodies
from the crash site.
562
00:26:46,522 --> 00:26:50,192
When he was on his deathbed,
he brought up Roswell.
563
00:26:50,192 --> 00:26:53,320
Days before he passed away,
he talked about,
564
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,698
"It was not a weather balloon.
It wasn't from here.
565
00:26:56,698 --> 00:27:02,496
And I saw two of the bodies,
and they were not human."
566
00:27:02,496 --> 00:27:06,667
POPE:
Deathbed testimony is a critical
part of the Roswell story.
567
00:27:06,667 --> 00:27:08,168
There are several.
568
00:27:08,168 --> 00:27:09,545
There are many reasons
569
00:27:09,545 --> 00:27:12,589
why some of the witnesses
stayed quiet for so long:
570
00:27:12,589 --> 00:27:14,883
fear, threats.
571
00:27:14,883 --> 00:27:16,635
All of this plays a part.
572
00:27:19,012 --> 00:27:21,723
NARRATOR:
Many UFO researchers
believe that,
573
00:27:21,723 --> 00:27:23,851
much like these
deathbed testimonies,
574
00:27:23,851 --> 00:27:27,521
it is only a matter of time
before physical evidence
575
00:27:27,521 --> 00:27:31,066
of a crashed extraterrestrial
craft finally surfaces.
576
00:27:31,066 --> 00:27:33,402
And some even suggest
577
00:27:33,402 --> 00:27:36,905
that such evidence has
already been recovered.
578
00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:42,244
HOWE:
Here it is, right here.
579
00:27:42,244 --> 00:27:45,831
NARRATOR:
One day after uncovering wires
near the Roswell skip site,
580
00:27:45,831 --> 00:27:49,167
Giorgio Tsoukalos and Linda
Moulton Howe have traveled
581
00:27:49,167 --> 00:27:50,419
to Theta Plate Lab,
582
00:27:50,419 --> 00:27:52,796
where they are met
by owner Aaron Velasquez.
583
00:27:52,796 --> 00:27:54,047
HOWE:
Hi.
584
00:27:54,047 --> 00:27:55,507
It's good to finally meet you.
585
00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:57,009
‐Welcome.
‐Hello.
586
00:27:57,009 --> 00:27:59,303
NARRATOR:
Geologist Frank Kimbler
arrived earlier with
587
00:27:59,303 --> 00:28:01,346
the metal fragments
he has collected
588
00:28:01,346 --> 00:28:02,598
over the past eight years
589
00:28:02,598 --> 00:28:05,517
in and around
the Roswell crash site.
590
00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:08,270
Hey, Frank.
Good to see you again.
591
00:28:08,270 --> 00:28:10,272
‐It's good to see you guys.
We're‐we're good.
‐Good to see you again.
592
00:28:10,272 --> 00:28:12,107
‐Ready for some testing?
‐We're ready for some testing.
593
00:28:12,107 --> 00:28:13,317
This is the exciting part.
594
00:28:13,317 --> 00:28:14,610
‐Excellent.
‐I've been waiting for this.
595
00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:16,737
NARRATOR:
Professor Kimbler's fragments
596
00:28:16,737 --> 00:28:18,864
will be scientifically tested,
597
00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:22,242
along with the wires they found
in the desert just yesterday
598
00:28:22,242 --> 00:28:25,537
to determine their
elemental makeup.
599
00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:27,539
VELASQUEZ:
So, we're gonna use this machine.
600
00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:29,625
It's an X‐ray
florescence machine.
601
00:28:29,625 --> 00:28:31,668
It can do
materials identification,
602
00:28:31,668 --> 00:28:34,087
so we're gonna hit it
with an X‐ray beam
603
00:28:34,087 --> 00:28:35,881
and it'll tell us
what it can tell us.
604
00:28:35,881 --> 00:28:39,551
So, it has the ability to show
us the elements that are
605
00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:42,304
in this within a certain range,
is that right?
606
00:28:42,304 --> 00:28:43,722
‐VELASQUEZ: Correct, correct.
‐Mm‐hmm.
607
00:28:45,140 --> 00:28:47,142
Okay, here we go.
608
00:28:48,602 --> 00:28:50,270
So, we're seeing
a big peak here.
609
00:28:50,270 --> 00:28:52,564
This is iron. All right.
610
00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:54,691
What else seems like a match?
611
00:28:54,691 --> 00:28:56,902
Well...
612
00:28:56,902 --> 00:28:58,236
Selenium.
613
00:28:58,236 --> 00:28:59,613
KIMBLER:
What in the world?
614
00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:02,699
Yeah, that‐that is
exactly my reaction.
615
00:29:02,699 --> 00:29:04,660
‐Yeah.
‐What is selenium
doing with that?
616
00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:08,747
KIMBLER:
I know that selenium is used
in the electronics industry
617
00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:10,123
for semiconductors.
618
00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:11,583
Let's go ahead and, uh,
619
00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:13,877
take a look at the
second wire, please.
620
00:29:17,297 --> 00:29:20,092
‐That there is... selenium.
‐This is selenium.
621
00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:22,135
‐Still?
‐VELASQUEZ: Yeah.
622
00:29:22,135 --> 00:29:24,096
NARRATOR:
The makeup of the
second wire fragment
623
00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:27,516
appears to be nearly
identical to the first.
624
00:29:27,516 --> 00:29:31,103
Might the presence of selenium,
a semiconductor,
625
00:29:31,103 --> 00:29:34,439
indicate that they were
part of an electronic device?
626
00:29:36,942 --> 00:29:39,111
‐KIMBLER: This one.
‐VELASQUEZ: Okay.
627
00:29:39,111 --> 00:29:42,364
NARRATOR:
Frank has also brought with him
a number of metal pieces
628
00:29:42,364 --> 00:29:44,992
that he has gathered in the
same area over the years,
629
00:29:44,992 --> 00:29:46,952
and has yet to test.
630
00:29:48,704 --> 00:29:52,165
So, it looks like
it's a match for iron.
631
00:29:52,165 --> 00:29:54,292
But I'm curious about
that little shoulder.
632
00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:57,546
Copper.
633
00:29:57,546 --> 00:29:58,714
‐KIMBLER: Okay.
‐Copper...
634
00:29:58,714 --> 00:30:00,674
So, I mean, it's
dead‐on copper match.
635
00:30:00,674 --> 00:30:03,010
‐KIMBLER: So, we know we've got
some copper in there.
‐Mm‐hmm.
636
00:30:03,010 --> 00:30:04,469
And then this stuff over here...
637
00:30:07,848 --> 00:30:09,766
I'd call it a good
match for zirconium.
638
00:30:09,766 --> 00:30:10,809
KIMBLER:
For zirconium?
639
00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:13,353
‐Wow.
‐Yeah.
640
00:30:13,353 --> 00:30:15,605
That would be unusual.
641
00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:18,817
VELASQUEZ:
This is a good match
for molybdenum.
642
00:30:20,402 --> 00:30:23,363
KIMBLER:
So, now we've got not only
643
00:30:23,363 --> 00:30:25,782
zirconium in there,
but we have molybdenum.
644
00:30:25,782 --> 00:30:28,994
And those are considered
impurities, Giorgio,
645
00:30:28,994 --> 00:30:30,746
but they shouldn't be there.
646
00:30:30,746 --> 00:30:34,207
But what does that mean when
you say it shouldn't be there?
647
00:30:34,207 --> 00:30:37,210
KIMBLER:
Because that's
unusual for any alloys
648
00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:38,587
that I've looked at previously.
649
00:30:38,587 --> 00:30:41,048
It's part of our
high‐tech industry.
650
00:30:41,048 --> 00:30:42,382
VELASQUEZ:
It's weird for me, too.
651
00:30:42,382 --> 00:30:43,925
So, you'd see molybdenum
in a stainless steel,
652
00:30:43,925 --> 00:30:45,677
but not an iron copper alloy.
653
00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:46,970
‐KIMBLER: Yeah.
‐VELASQUEZ: Yeah.
654
00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:48,513
‐KIMBLER: I agree with that.
‐TSOUKALOS: Okay.
655
00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:50,891
‐I like it.
‐And zirconium has been found
656
00:30:50,891 --> 00:30:55,771
in some cases where
material has been tested
657
00:30:55,771 --> 00:30:58,690
and it was somehow
related to a crash.
658
00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:00,650
‐I've run across that myself.
‐Zirconium.
659
00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:05,864
NARRATOR:
In 2009, a Freedom of
Information Act request
660
00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:07,824
brought to light
a research study
661
00:31:07,824 --> 00:31:12,704
conducted at Wright‐Patterson
Air Force Base in 1949,
662
00:31:12,704 --> 00:31:16,583
the site in Ohio where the
wreckage from Roswell was taken.
663
00:31:16,583 --> 00:31:19,127
According to released documents,
664
00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:21,421
metallurgists
discovered zirconium
665
00:31:21,421 --> 00:31:23,882
while examining pieces
of strange metal
666
00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:26,009
recovered in the
New Mexico desert.
667
00:31:28,011 --> 00:31:32,224
Is this a piece that you found
where we were walking around?
668
00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:33,767
Absolutely.
669
00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:35,811
In fact, if we could bring
the picture back up,
670
00:31:35,811 --> 00:31:37,479
there's an interesting
little part on this
671
00:31:37,479 --> 00:31:39,773
because this is one
that I talked about before
672
00:31:39,773 --> 00:31:41,733
that has explosive
cratering on it
673
00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:43,485
because it went
through an explosion,
674
00:31:43,485 --> 00:31:45,737
and I can show that
and prove it on that piece.
675
00:31:47,155 --> 00:31:48,907
‐So, do you need me
to scan around?
‐Right...
676
00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:51,535
‐See that right there?
‐VELASQUEZ: That pit?
677
00:31:51,535 --> 00:31:54,204
KIMBLER:
That pit right there is
an explosive crater.
678
00:31:56,123 --> 00:31:57,582
NARRATOR
Explosive cratering?
679
00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:59,918
Could this curious
feature indicate
680
00:31:59,918 --> 00:32:01,795
that the metal
fragments Frank found,
681
00:32:01,795 --> 00:32:04,589
in separate locations
near Roswell,
682
00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:07,384
came from exploded objects?
683
00:32:07,384 --> 00:32:11,096
Perhaps even one or more
extraterrestrial crafts?
684
00:32:12,639 --> 00:32:15,934
As the team tests the
rest of the metal fragments,
685
00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:18,061
they are surprised to discover
686
00:32:18,061 --> 00:32:21,690
that nearly all of them seem to
have the same elemental makeup.
687
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:24,151
There's definitely a similarity.
688
00:32:24,151 --> 00:32:26,611
I mean, it looks like
it's the same material.
689
00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:28,363
It's just in
different proportions.
690
00:32:28,363 --> 00:32:29,948
Boy.
691
00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:32,617
VELASQUEZ:
So, it could be the same stuff.
692
00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:35,036
‐KIMBLER: I think
we have the proof.
‐HOWE: Yeah.
693
00:32:35,036 --> 00:32:37,539
KIMBLER:
We just need to get
more testing done.
694
00:32:37,539 --> 00:32:40,208
I can't wait to learn
what we'll find out next.
695
00:32:40,208 --> 00:32:42,544
NARRATOR:
The battery of tests
696
00:32:42,544 --> 00:32:44,546
being performed by the U.S. Army
697
00:32:44,546 --> 00:32:47,382
on Linda's layered metal
fragments could take months
698
00:32:47,382 --> 00:32:48,842
or even years.
699
00:32:48,842 --> 00:32:51,303
In the meantime,
700
00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:53,722
the material collected
from the Roswell skip site
701
00:32:53,722 --> 00:32:57,434
has been sent to another
lab for further analysis.
702
00:32:57,434 --> 00:33:00,937
But curiously, one element
703
00:33:00,937 --> 00:33:03,940
that has already been detected
in Professor Kimbler's materials
704
00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:07,485
has also been found
in another metal fragment
705
00:33:07,485 --> 00:33:10,238
suspected to be
debris from a UFO,
706
00:33:10,238 --> 00:33:14,409
and from a location on
the other side of the world.
707
00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:22,209
NARRATOR:
The Roswell incident remains
the most well‐known
708
00:33:22,209 --> 00:33:24,169
UFO event in history,
709
00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:27,505
but there have been reports
of numerous other UFO crashes
710
00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:29,341
all over the world,
711
00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:32,844
as well as the recovery
of strange metal debris.
712
00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:37,474
In 1991, geologists
searching for gold deposits
713
00:33:37,474 --> 00:33:41,811
in Russia's Ural Mountains made
a highly unexpected discovery.
714
00:33:41,811 --> 00:33:44,564
At depths of over 30 feet,
715
00:33:44,564 --> 00:33:48,902
they found a scattering of
tiny metal coils and springs.
716
00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:56,201
CHILDRESS:
Russian scientists are finding
these tiny nanoparticles.
717
00:33:56,201 --> 00:33:57,953
They found thousands
of these things.
718
00:33:57,953 --> 00:34:00,205
They have to look at them
through microscopes.
719
00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:02,082
They're‐they're...
Some of them are just
720
00:34:02,082 --> 00:34:05,919
one ten‐thousandth of an inch,
you know, in size.
721
00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:08,338
There are all kinds of spirals
722
00:34:08,338 --> 00:34:11,216
and tiny machined bits.
723
00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:14,803
When they look at it, they seem
to be exactly like the kind of
724
00:34:14,803 --> 00:34:17,305
tiny nanoparticles
and machine bits
725
00:34:17,305 --> 00:34:19,266
that we are creating today.
726
00:34:21,017 --> 00:34:24,896
What you see under the electron
microscope is mind‐boggling
727
00:34:24,896 --> 00:34:27,732
because you see spirals.
728
00:34:27,732 --> 00:34:31,069
You see definitely something
where the scientists
729
00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:34,906
who investigated this
came to the conclusion
730
00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:38,618
that these items are
artificially made
731
00:34:38,618 --> 00:34:40,620
out of tungsten and molybdenum.
732
00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:44,082
And so that right there
is incredibly interesting
733
00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:48,295
because that was found
exactly at the skip site.
734
00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:53,008
NARRATOR:
Molybdenum is the same material
detected in the metal fragments
735
00:34:53,008 --> 00:34:56,428
that Frank Kimbler found
in the desert outside Roswell.
736
00:34:56,428 --> 00:34:59,097
It is a super‐strong element
737
00:34:59,097 --> 00:35:01,975
commonly used
in NASA spacecraft.
738
00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:06,104
YURI KARASH:
These microscopic spirals
739
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:09,774
were made of wolfram
and molybdenum.
740
00:35:09,774 --> 00:35:13,194
The melting temperature
for wolfram is above
741
00:35:13,194 --> 00:35:15,030
6,000 degrees Fahrenheit,
742
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:18,950
and for molybdenum is about
5,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
743
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:25,123
TRAVIS TAYLOR:
Some, uh, version of NASA
from some other star system
744
00:35:25,123 --> 00:35:28,918
could send a probe here
to Earth, and it could fail, uh,
745
00:35:28,918 --> 00:35:32,297
and crash into Earth, and‐and
we would look at it and think,
746
00:35:32,297 --> 00:35:33,840
"Wow, where did this come from?"
747
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,802
Maybe one day, we might be
creating our own Roswell
748
00:35:37,802 --> 00:35:40,305
when we send our first
probe to the nearest star.
749
00:35:40,305 --> 00:35:43,642
NARRATOR:
Ancient astronaut
theorists point out
750
00:35:43,642 --> 00:35:47,062
that dozens of visitors to the
Ural Mountains have reported
751
00:35:47,062 --> 00:35:50,315
encounters with strange,
cigar‐shaped craft
752
00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:52,734
trailing fire across the sky.
753
00:35:52,734 --> 00:35:56,821
Could this be the
Russian Roswell?
754
00:35:56,821 --> 00:36:00,617
Indeed, people living
in the Ural Mountains,
755
00:36:00,617 --> 00:36:03,495
maybe more often than, uh,
756
00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:06,206
people living in
other parts of Russia,
757
00:36:06,206 --> 00:36:10,543
witness some strange phenomena
in the air and on the ground.
758
00:36:12,629 --> 00:36:16,508
PAUL STONEHILL:
Ural Mountains are
a very interesting space
759
00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:19,928
in the paranormal
history of Russia.
760
00:36:19,928 --> 00:36:23,181
And I've studied a lot
because there have always been
761
00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:27,018
incredible UFO sightings
in the Ural Mountains.
762
00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:29,896
There are stories
of civilizations
763
00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:32,524
that have disappeared
or went under the ground.
764
00:36:32,524 --> 00:36:36,945
Uh, the so‐called, uh, dwarf
people in the Ural Mountains.
765
00:36:36,945 --> 00:36:41,866
NARRATOR:
If the nanoparticles discovered
in the Ural Mountains are debris
766
00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:43,702
from a crashed alien craft,
767
00:36:43,702 --> 00:36:47,247
they bring up another
intriguing possibility,
768
00:36:47,247 --> 00:36:50,542
because based on how deep
below the earth they were found,
769
00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:54,546
they could have been deposited
there thousands of years ago.
770
00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:57,257
There's thinking that
these things must be
771
00:36:57,257 --> 00:36:59,092
over 50,000 years old.
772
00:36:59,092 --> 00:37:02,595
So, is this also a debris field
773
00:37:02,595 --> 00:37:07,726
from a crashed extraterrestrial
craft in the Ural Mountains?
774
00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:11,813
There could be crash
sites all over the world
775
00:37:11,813 --> 00:37:14,691
that are hundreds of
thousands of years old,
776
00:37:14,691 --> 00:37:17,193
right up to modern times.
777
00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:21,573
NARRATOR:
Rumors abound that
there are facilities
778
00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:23,908
located all over the world
holding the remnants
779
00:37:23,908 --> 00:37:27,162
of crashed
extraterrestrial craft,
780
00:37:27,162 --> 00:37:29,998
like in the remote
hills of China,
781
00:37:29,998 --> 00:37:32,250
at Pine Gap in Australia,
782
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,919
and Rudloe Manor in England.
783
00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:41,092
TSOUKALOS:
Who knows if over the chronology
of the history of planet Earth
784
00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:45,805
there were more craft, just like
at Roswell, that crashed?
785
00:37:45,805 --> 00:37:49,768
NARRATOR:
Is it possible that Roswell is
786
00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:52,437
just one of many
locations on planet Earth
787
00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:55,440
where debris from
crashed extraterrestrial craft
788
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,066
can be found?
789
00:37:58,526 --> 00:38:02,614
Perhaps further testing that was
conducted on the metal fragments
790
00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:05,158
unearthed near the Roswell
skip site will reveal
791
00:38:05,158 --> 00:38:09,537
indisputable evidence
of alien visitation.
792
00:38:15,877 --> 00:38:19,631
NARRATOR:
Giorgio Tsoukalos meets
Linda Moulton Howe at her home
793
00:38:19,631 --> 00:38:21,925
two weeks after sending out
the materials collected
794
00:38:21,925 --> 00:38:25,386
at the Roswell crash site to
a laboratory in Dallas, Texas,
795
00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:26,971
for further testing.
796
00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:30,308
Aaron Velasquez, who
performed the initial testing,
797
00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:33,812
has received and
analyzed the data.
798
00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:36,356
‐Hi, Aaron.
‐Good to see you again.
How are you?
799
00:38:36,356 --> 00:38:38,233
Nice to see you guys.
I've been well.
800
00:38:38,233 --> 00:38:40,902
We're sitting here
on pins and needles.
801
00:38:40,902 --> 00:38:42,445
So, what can you show us?
802
00:38:42,445 --> 00:38:46,950
So, we found that, of the
samples of Frank's material,
803
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:49,702
three of them,
while they look like the rest,
804
00:38:49,702 --> 00:38:52,831
have a very, very high
concentration of carbon in them.
805
00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:55,542
Much more than the aluminum,
despite what they look like.
806
00:38:55,542 --> 00:38:57,210
There's been some supposition
807
00:38:57,210 --> 00:39:00,338
that that could be
from high heat.
808
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:02,090
So that was odd.
809
00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:04,300
But odder still is we had
810
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,678
one sample of the five
which had
811
00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:09,472
indium, which is
a very rare element.
812
00:39:09,472 --> 00:39:11,683
So it's not the sort of thing
that you would get
813
00:39:11,683 --> 00:39:14,227
by accident, guaranteed.
814
00:39:14,227 --> 00:39:15,770
So are we talking
about something
815
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:17,021
that's really strange here?
816
00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:19,440
Yes. Yes.
817
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,902
Well, uh, what about
those wires that we found?
818
00:39:22,902 --> 00:39:24,404
Yeah.
819
00:39:24,404 --> 00:39:25,697
So, that is also odd.
820
00:39:25,697 --> 00:39:28,575
So, the elements that
we found with the wire
821
00:39:28,575 --> 00:39:31,703
were all explainable, except
it, too, had indium in it.
822
00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:34,914
What about evidence
of impact and heat?
823
00:39:34,914 --> 00:39:37,125
Yes, that's another thing
that we noted.
824
00:39:37,125 --> 00:39:38,668
It was very obvious
825
00:39:38,668 --> 00:39:40,587
under the scanning
electron microscope
826
00:39:40,587 --> 00:39:43,798
that these had been subjected
to very, very high heat.
827
00:39:43,798 --> 00:39:44,966
They were melted.
828
00:39:44,966 --> 00:39:46,634
There was also
some shearing apparent.
829
00:39:46,634 --> 00:39:50,471
So, these were, these were
cut or sliced by...
830
00:39:50,471 --> 00:39:54,017
by some action as well over
the years, or‐or at an impact.
831
00:39:55,977 --> 00:39:58,104
That's‐that's incredible.
832
00:39:58,104 --> 00:40:00,815
Yes, it's very interesting.
833
00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:03,234
NARRATOR:
For Giorgio and Linda,
834
00:40:03,234 --> 00:40:06,905
the results are nothing
less than astonishing.
835
00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:10,074
Multiple tests have now
confirmed that the materials
836
00:40:10,074 --> 00:40:12,035
recovered at
the Roswell skip site
837
00:40:12,035 --> 00:40:14,495
are of a highly unusual nature,
838
00:40:14,495 --> 00:40:18,625
and show evidence of having
been subjected to an explosion.
839
00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:23,004
Might the strange layered
material being examined
840
00:40:23,004 --> 00:40:27,050
by the U.S. Army prove to
be even more extraordinary?
841
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:30,261
HOWE:
In the bismuth, magnesium, zinc,
842
00:40:30,261 --> 00:40:33,389
we're dealing with technologies
that astound people
843
00:40:33,389 --> 00:40:37,143
who are in exotic metals
because they couldn't make
844
00:40:37,143 --> 00:40:39,562
the bismuth, magnesium, zinc,
845
00:40:39,562 --> 00:40:43,733
and a physicist tells
me this is the key.
846
00:40:43,733 --> 00:40:49,030
This is the crux of how
this kind of technology
847
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:53,868
makes possible the
unidentified flying objects
848
00:40:53,868 --> 00:40:56,955
move in such astounding ways.
849
00:40:56,955 --> 00:40:59,332
MAN:
Whoa!
850
00:40:59,332 --> 00:41:02,335
And in this whole
issue of finding
851
00:41:02,335 --> 00:41:06,923
more materials from UFOs,
I'm still on the trail.
852
00:41:10,969 --> 00:41:13,972
TSOUKALOS: Oftentimes,
I'm told that to suggest that
853
00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:19,352
a UFO, an extraterrestrial
craft, crashed at Roswell
854
00:41:19,352 --> 00:41:24,065
is nonsensical because
extraterrestrials can fly
855
00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:27,986
across the galaxy,
and then they crash on Earth?
856
00:41:27,986 --> 00:41:29,904
Well, yeah. You know why?
857
00:41:29,904 --> 00:41:32,824
'Cause it's technology,
and technology fails.
858
00:41:34,617 --> 00:41:39,706
I think that there may be more
material there to be found.
859
00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:42,000
NARRATOR:
Is physical evidence
860
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,713
of an extraterrestrial presence
on Earth right beneath our feet?
861
00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:49,924
Could there be debris
from crashed alien craft
862
00:41:49,924 --> 00:41:53,177
not only in the
New Mexico desert
863
00:41:53,177 --> 00:41:55,555
but all across the world?
864
00:41:55,555 --> 00:41:59,017
Perhaps the materials that
have already been recovered
865
00:41:59,017 --> 00:42:01,811
will soon provide
the ultimate proof
866
00:42:01,811 --> 00:42:04,522
that we are not alone
in the universe,
867
00:42:04,522 --> 00:42:08,693
or even on our own planet.