1 00:00:01,980 --> 00:00:04,320 NARRATOR: Could recent media reports 2 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:06,750 and newly-released military videos 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,810 be an indication that the wall of secrecy 4 00:00:09,900 --> 00:00:12,150 concerning extraterrestrial visitors to our planet 5 00:00:12,330 --> 00:00:14,400 is beginning to crack? 6 00:00:14,490 --> 00:00:17,280 You’ve been briefed on unidentified flying objects. 7 00:00:17,370 --> 00:00:19,170 -Are they real? -We have had people 8 00:00:19,350 --> 00:00:21,240 saying that they’ve seen things. 9 00:00:21,330 --> 00:00:23,220 JOHN PODESTA: We know that 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,110 there were certain incidents that were 11 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,890 encountered by the U.S. Navy that were unexplained. 12 00:00:29,070 --> 00:00:30,780 NARRATOR: But are these recent revelations 13 00:00:30,870 --> 00:00:35,370 part of a global strategy intended to prepare humanity 14 00:00:35,460 --> 00:00:37,980 for the ultimate extraterrestrial encounter? 15 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:39,600 NICK POPE: All those things 16 00:00:39,690 --> 00:00:41,760 we’re seeing now is the government 17 00:00:41,850 --> 00:00:43,740 getting ready to tell us. 18 00:00:43,830 --> 00:00:46,350 This is a completely new ball game here. 19 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,420 NARRATOR: Or are they the result 20 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,390 of an anxious public’s increasingly loud demands 21 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:53,100 to know the truth? 22 00:00:53,190 --> 00:00:55,710 JEREMY CORBELL: This will come from us, 23 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:56,970 from the people. 24 00:00:57,060 --> 00:00:58,500 If we ask the right questions, 25 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,300 we’re gonna get the right answers. 26 00:01:02,910 --> 00:01:04,800 NARRATOR: There is a doorway 27 00:01:04,890 --> 00:01:07,590 in the universe. 28 00:01:07,770 --> 00:01:10,650 Beyond it is the promise of truth. 29 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,340 It demands we question everything 30 00:01:14,430 --> 00:01:16,680 we have ever been taught. 31 00:01:16,860 --> 00:01:20,910 The evidence is all around us. 32 00:01:21,090 --> 00:01:24,330 The future is right before our eyes. 33 00:01:24,420 --> 00:01:27,120 We are not alone. 34 00:01:27,300 --> 00:01:30,630 We have never been alone. 35 00:01:39,180 --> 00:01:41,070 NARRATOR: Osaka, Japan. 36 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,670 July 1, 2019. 37 00:01:44,850 --> 00:01:49,350 In a televised interview, Fox News political commentator 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,860 Tucker Carlson asks President Donald Trump, 39 00:01:52,950 --> 00:01:57,540 point-blank, about recent revelations concerning UFOs. 40 00:01:57,630 --> 00:02:01,050 You’ve been briefed on unidentified flying objects. 41 00:02:01,230 --> 00:02:03,210 -Are they... are they real? -Uh, 42 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:05,100 well, I don’t want to really get into it too much, 43 00:02:05,190 --> 00:02:07,170 but personally I tend to doubt it. 44 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:11,220 But we have had people saying that they’ve seen things. 45 00:02:11,310 --> 00:02:13,380 Uh, I’m not a believer, 46 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,270 but, you know, I guess anything’s possible. 47 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,160 We spoke to a government official recently who said 48 00:02:17,340 --> 00:02:18,960 the U.S. government had wreckage from 49 00:02:19,050 --> 00:02:20,850 a UFO in a, in a facility on an Air Force base. 50 00:02:20,940 --> 00:02:23,010 -Are you familiar with that? -I haven’t heard that, no. 51 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:26,880 RICHARD DOLAN: Trump’s answer was extraordinary because 52 00:02:26,970 --> 00:02:28,950 I don’t believe there’s been any other time 53 00:02:29,130 --> 00:02:31,740 in, uh, recent American history 54 00:02:31,830 --> 00:02:34,350 where a sitting president was asked this question 55 00:02:34,530 --> 00:02:39,840 in such a serious manner and gave a serious reply. 56 00:02:39,930 --> 00:02:42,990 POPE: President Trump’s interview 57 00:02:43,170 --> 00:02:47,760 with Tucker Carlson about UFOs was historic. 58 00:02:47,850 --> 00:02:51,720 Usually presidents, certainly sitting presidents, 59 00:02:51,810 --> 00:02:53,790 do not discuss this subject at all, 60 00:02:53,970 --> 00:02:56,310 and if they are ever asked about it, 61 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,020 they dismiss the whole thing 62 00:02:58,110 --> 00:03:00,540 with a joke or an evasive answer. 63 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,870 Now, Ryan, if you’re out in the crowd tonight, 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,300 here’s the answer to your question. 65 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,240 No, as far as I know, an alien spacecraft did not crash 66 00:03:12,330 --> 00:03:15,750 in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. 67 00:03:21,150 --> 00:03:22,860 CORBELL: Ten years ago, 68 00:03:22,950 --> 00:03:25,200 UFOs were about laughter, 69 00:03:25,290 --> 00:03:28,530 UFOs were the easiest punch line in a room. 70 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:30,960 Not so today. 71 00:03:31,140 --> 00:03:34,740 Now, in the new world we live in, people are paying attention. 72 00:03:34,830 --> 00:03:37,710 We have moved from a fringe topic 73 00:03:37,890 --> 00:03:39,870 and brought UFOs to the forefront 74 00:03:40,050 --> 00:03:42,210 of both popular culture 75 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:44,100 as well as mainstream media. 76 00:03:46,170 --> 00:03:49,500 NARRATOR: On August 29, 2019, 77 00:03:49,590 --> 00:03:52,470 journalist and former British Defence Ministry employee 78 00:03:52,650 --> 00:03:56,070 Nick Pope traveled to Washington, D.C. 79 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,320 He had arranged to meet with Tucker Carlson 80 00:03:58,500 --> 00:04:01,920 and get his thoughts on his extraordinary exchange 81 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:04,440 with America’s 45th president. 82 00:04:04,620 --> 00:04:06,420 -Tucker, hey. -Thank you, Nick. 83 00:04:06,510 --> 00:04:08,040 -Nice to meet you in person. -Great to meet you. Thank you. 84 00:04:08,130 --> 00:04:09,300 -Okay. Thanks. -UFOs are real. 85 00:04:10,740 --> 00:04:12,270 Tucker, you’ve taken the lead 86 00:04:12,450 --> 00:04:14,160 in the mainstream media in discussing 87 00:04:14,250 --> 00:04:16,500 the latest revelations about UFOs. 88 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:19,020 Why is that? Is it a personal interest? 89 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:23,250 I just believe it’s clear that there’s been deception 90 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:25,860 around this question from the U.S. government, 91 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,750 the Pentagon specifically. 92 00:04:27,930 --> 00:04:30,990 And I think it’s important to find out more. 93 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,510 I mean, if there is real evidence 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,660 that this planet is being visited 95 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:40,260 from other planets 96 00:04:40,350 --> 00:04:43,230 or solar systems, or even if there are aircraft 97 00:04:43,410 --> 00:04:45,120 whose behavior we can’t explain, 98 00:04:45,210 --> 00:04:48,270 why is that not the biggest story in news? 99 00:04:48,450 --> 00:04:51,150 I agree. Now, do you have any kind of pushback 100 00:04:51,330 --> 00:04:53,040 with that when you run these stories? 101 00:04:53,130 --> 00:04:55,650 How do the senior executives feel, 102 00:04:55,830 --> 00:04:57,360 and other media professionals? 103 00:04:57,450 --> 00:04:59,610 My feeling was it’s time to rethink, like, 104 00:04:59,790 --> 00:05:02,040 what you think you know, 105 00:05:02,220 --> 00:05:05,190 and so we started doing UFO segments. 106 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:08,160 And basically, the first three times we did it, 107 00:05:08,340 --> 00:05:10,230 people made fun of us, and after that, 108 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,300 no one has said a single word about it. 109 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,460 Well, there are these videos that... 110 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:17,970 I mean, we’ve all seen the Navy jets chasing the UFOs. 111 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:28,950 What kind of emotional reaction do you get 112 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,480 watching something like that? 113 00:05:30,660 --> 00:05:32,730 You know pilots. My brother’s a pilot. 114 00:05:32,820 --> 00:05:34,260 I’ve talked to a lot of pilots. 115 00:05:34,350 --> 00:05:36,600 They’re very interested 116 00:05:36,780 --> 00:05:39,210 in how things lift off the ground and move. 117 00:05:39,390 --> 00:05:40,920 They’re interested in flight. They’re saying, 118 00:05:41,010 --> 00:05:42,270 "This is something completely different. 119 00:05:42,450 --> 00:05:44,970 I don’t even know how this works." 120 00:05:45,060 --> 00:05:47,490 That’s... compelling to me. 121 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:49,110 I asked the president about it. 122 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,540 What did you make of his response? 123 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,070 I thought his response was odd, to be honest with you. 124 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,960 I thought it was odd. 125 00:05:55,140 --> 00:05:56,670 -In-in what way? -He said, "You know, 126 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,650 "I’m not interested in that topic at all. 127 00:05:58,830 --> 00:06:00,810 "I’m just... I’m not interested in that topic, 128 00:06:00,900 --> 00:06:02,430 and I don’t think there’s anything there." 129 00:06:02,610 --> 00:06:04,410 I didn’t believe him when he said that, 130 00:06:04,500 --> 00:06:06,390 to-to be honest with you. 131 00:06:06,570 --> 00:06:08,550 It was funny, because he nodded 132 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,610 -his head and then said no. -Yes, that’s exactly right. 133 00:06:11,790 --> 00:06:14,490 The president, like probably most people 134 00:06:14,580 --> 00:06:17,460 in power, is uncomfortable conceding 135 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:20,880 that... he’s got questions. 136 00:06:21,060 --> 00:06:23,490 I mean, it’s much easier just to say "Nah, there’s nothing there. 137 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:25,380 It’s a weather balloon." 138 00:06:25,470 --> 00:06:27,810 And because there’s a stigma attached 139 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:30,060 to asking questions. 140 00:06:30,150 --> 00:06:32,220 I mean, I’ve never once said that I believe 141 00:06:32,310 --> 00:06:34,740 anything in particular about UFOs, because I don’t. 142 00:06:34,830 --> 00:06:36,270 I don’t know what to believe, 143 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,250 but I know bullshit when I see it. 144 00:06:38,430 --> 00:06:40,590 Do you think he knows more than he’s letting on, 145 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,570 or do you think, as some people say, 146 00:06:42,660 --> 00:06:43,920 even the president doesn’t know? 147 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:45,810 My impression was 148 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:48,060 that the president... 149 00:06:48,150 --> 00:06:51,210 does know more than he said. 150 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:52,920 You know, you’d have to think 151 00:06:53,100 --> 00:06:55,710 that, that any person of moderate curiosity, 152 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,220 given the power that a president has, 153 00:06:59,310 --> 00:07:01,920 would, at some point, in, you know, 154 00:07:02,010 --> 00:07:04,710 his first couple years in office, would call down and say, 155 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,420 "You know, send me all the information you have on UFOs." 156 00:07:06,510 --> 00:07:07,770 Like, why wouldn’t you do that? 157 00:07:07,950 --> 00:07:09,570 Do you think the public want to know 158 00:07:09,660 --> 00:07:11,370 -and can handle the truth? -Well, you know the... 159 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:13,170 I mean, let’s be... I mean, let’s... let’s be honest. 160 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:15,510 The people keeping this information secret 161 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,470 at the Pentagon believe the information is so terrifying 162 00:07:19,650 --> 00:07:22,530 to the public that it would be contrary 163 00:07:22,530 --> 00:07:23,970 to the national interest to reveal it. 164 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:25,680 -Yeah. -I mean, obviously. 165 00:07:25,770 --> 00:07:27,570 When we run through the theories about this, 166 00:07:27,750 --> 00:07:30,630 we say, could it be some other part of the U.S. government? 167 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,250 Some secret black project? 168 00:07:32,340 --> 00:07:33,870 Could it be Russia or China? 169 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,940 Or could it be extraterrestrial? 170 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,280 I’m starting to believe that there is... 171 00:07:38,370 --> 00:07:39,810 and I-I’ve heard this from someone 172 00:07:39,990 --> 00:07:41,160 who I think is knowledgeable on the subject... 173 00:07:41,250 --> 00:07:44,130 that there is physical evidence 174 00:07:44,310 --> 00:07:47,190 that the U.S. government is holding, um, 175 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,170 that, you know, would tell us a lot more 176 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:51,510 -about what these objects are. -Physical evidence. 177 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,860 -Uh, wreckage? -That is correct. 178 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,570 Who-who was that? 179 00:07:54,660 --> 00:07:56,550 It’s, you know, a well-known... 180 00:07:56,730 --> 00:07:58,530 someone who worked on this within the government 181 00:07:58,620 --> 00:08:00,960 for many years who would know. 182 00:08:01,140 --> 00:08:03,210 And I asked point-blank, 183 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:07,980 "Is there physical evidence of the existence of these objects, 184 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,330 these aircraft, whatever they are?" 185 00:08:09,420 --> 00:08:10,860 And he said, "Yes, there is." 186 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,930 -Wreckage in a hangar? -Wreckage. 187 00:08:13,020 --> 00:08:14,280 -He did not say in a hangar. -Well, somewhere. 188 00:08:14,460 --> 00:08:15,810 He just said, "The U.S...." He said, 189 00:08:15,990 --> 00:08:18,150 "The U.S. government has physical evidence." 190 00:08:20,580 --> 00:08:23,730 Here we have a major mainstream news media figure 191 00:08:23,820 --> 00:08:25,530 telling it how it is. 192 00:08:25,710 --> 00:08:28,500 It goes beyond simply saying, "UFOs are real, 193 00:08:28,590 --> 00:08:31,020 they’re extraterrestrial." There’s something more. 194 00:08:31,110 --> 00:08:34,710 Something too terrible to be told. 195 00:08:34,890 --> 00:08:37,320 -Are they real? -I’m not a believer, but 196 00:08:37,410 --> 00:08:40,290 we have had people saying that they’ve seen things. 197 00:08:40,380 --> 00:08:42,810 NARRATOR: But were President Donald Trump’s 198 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:45,870 no-nonsense answers on the question of UFOs 199 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,190 simply an attempt to dismiss the matter once and for all? 200 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,890 If so, it didn’t work. 201 00:08:52,980 --> 00:08:55,770 In fact, many saw it as a sign 202 00:08:55,950 --> 00:08:58,290 that the U.S. government’s policy toward all things 203 00:08:58,380 --> 00:09:01,170 extraterrestrial had begun to take a more candid 204 00:09:01,260 --> 00:09:04,590 and possibly more honest turn. 205 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:07,470 And they remain convinced that disclosure 206 00:09:07,650 --> 00:09:12,330 is not simply imminent but that it’s already underway. 207 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,830 NARRATOR: In a reversal of decades of denial, 208 00:09:26,010 --> 00:09:28,080 a Navy spokesman confirms 209 00:09:28,170 --> 00:09:30,510 that recently circulated military footage 210 00:09:30,690 --> 00:09:36,720 that was thought to show UFOs is in fact authentic. 211 00:09:36,810 --> 00:09:39,780 The statement comes just four months after 212 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,380 Navy pilots from the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt 213 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:45,450 revealed to The New York Times 214 00:09:45,630 --> 00:09:49,860 that in the summer of 2014 through March 2015, 215 00:09:49,950 --> 00:09:53,010 they encountered UFOs on a near daily basis 216 00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:56,520 off the East Coast of the United States. 217 00:09:56,610 --> 00:10:00,300 POPE: A number of senators have confirmed that they have 218 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,540 received classified briefings on all this. 219 00:10:03,630 --> 00:10:06,420 This is a completely new ball game here. 220 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,750 We are in new and uncharted territory. 221 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,260 NARRATOR: But do the recent military revelations 222 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,130 concerning UFO encounters really mean that we are moving closer 223 00:10:17,220 --> 00:10:19,200 to the day of disclosure? 224 00:10:19,380 --> 00:10:21,630 MAN (over radio): Oh, my gosh, dude. 225 00:10:21,810 --> 00:10:23,520 NARRATOR: Or is it simply that they are equally baffled 226 00:10:23,610 --> 00:10:25,230 by what they are witnessing, 227 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,640 and seek the help of the general public in finding answers? 228 00:10:29,820 --> 00:10:33,060 It’s frightening to hear how little 229 00:10:33,150 --> 00:10:36,480 our government truly knows about these unknown vehicles 230 00:10:36,570 --> 00:10:41,610 of unknown origin invading our airspace with impunity 231 00:10:41,700 --> 00:10:43,770 at all times upon their will. 232 00:10:45,300 --> 00:10:47,100 POPE: Many people in the UFO community 233 00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:51,870 talk about it in terms of it being a single event. 234 00:10:52,050 --> 00:10:54,390 Disclosure with a big "D", as I call it. 235 00:10:54,570 --> 00:10:56,820 In that scenario, 236 00:10:56,910 --> 00:10:59,160 the president clears his schedule, 237 00:10:59,340 --> 00:11:01,950 goes on television, announces to the world 238 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,650 that there is an alien presence. 239 00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:06,810 Disclosure is simply an acknowledgment 240 00:11:06,900 --> 00:11:08,700 by the established structure of power 241 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,310 that UFOs are real 242 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,090 and some don’t belong to our civilization. 243 00:11:15,180 --> 00:11:19,050 POPE: Society is being prepped for this, 244 00:11:19,140 --> 00:11:21,750 some believe, through the revelations 245 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,250 about government programs and military encounters. 246 00:11:26,340 --> 00:11:29,490 But all those things we’re seeing now 247 00:11:29,670 --> 00:11:33,360 is the government getting ready to tell us 248 00:11:33,450 --> 00:11:35,970 so that there won’t be the huge shock 249 00:11:36,150 --> 00:11:37,860 and panic when it is announced. 250 00:11:37,950 --> 00:11:40,290 Because the point is, with all of this, of course, 251 00:11:40,470 --> 00:11:42,990 you don’t shock people so much 252 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,950 if you tell them something they already believe or suspect. 253 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,550 NARRATOR: But whether the government’s recent revelations 254 00:11:50,730 --> 00:11:53,970 about UFOs are the result of an unintended leak 255 00:11:54,060 --> 00:11:56,220 or part of a strategic plan, 256 00:11:56,310 --> 00:11:58,650 two things are certain: 257 00:11:58,830 --> 00:12:00,990 unexplained encounters are happening 258 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,050 with increasing frequency in U.S. airspace, 259 00:12:04,230 --> 00:12:07,470 and at the same time, the Navy revealed plans 260 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:10,170 to create a new process to make it easier 261 00:12:10,260 --> 00:12:12,870 for pilots to report UFO sightings. 262 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,120 Even though the U.S. military 263 00:12:15,210 --> 00:12:17,010 stopped collecting reports for many, many years, 264 00:12:17,190 --> 00:12:18,810 they’re clearly back in the business 265 00:12:18,990 --> 00:12:20,340 of at least filing them, 266 00:12:20,430 --> 00:12:22,950 accepting them from their pilots and so on, 267 00:12:23,130 --> 00:12:26,370 so I think it is the first real crack in the taboo. 268 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:27,990 This is not the way it used to be. 269 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,610 It used to be you don’t talk 270 00:12:29,790 --> 00:12:31,860 about things you see in the sky if you want to fly. 271 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,090 So when the Navy loosens up the reporting options 272 00:12:36,180 --> 00:12:38,160 for pilots, that is a huge concession 273 00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:39,960 to the new reality. 274 00:12:40,050 --> 00:12:42,030 GIORGIO A. TSOUKALOS: If these craft 275 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,280 that are currently being observed... 276 00:12:44,370 --> 00:12:46,980 if those craft are not ours, 277 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,230 if they are not Russian, 278 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,850 and if they’re not Chinese, 279 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:53,190 we should all wonder who it is 280 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,800 who has that type of aviation technology. 281 00:12:55,980 --> 00:12:59,580 And if it’s not someone from our planet, 282 00:12:59,670 --> 00:13:02,100 well, who else is left? 283 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,620 DOLAN: The fact is that military pilots 284 00:13:04,710 --> 00:13:05,790 for years and years have been saying 285 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,320 the same thing publicly. 286 00:13:07,410 --> 00:13:08,580 They just haven’t gotten the attention 287 00:13:08,670 --> 00:13:10,200 that these individuals have gotten. 288 00:13:10,380 --> 00:13:11,910 That’s the difference. 289 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,510 And the real question is: why, and why now? 290 00:13:18,030 --> 00:13:20,820 POPE: Now we’ve had these revelations, the Navy videos, 291 00:13:20,910 --> 00:13:22,170 the fact that the Navy 292 00:13:22,260 --> 00:13:24,960 have changed their policy, telling their pilots 293 00:13:25,140 --> 00:13:26,760 to report, are things changing? 294 00:13:26,850 --> 00:13:29,190 And where do you think we’re going with this? 295 00:13:29,370 --> 00:13:31,260 I don’t think that most news organizations 296 00:13:31,350 --> 00:13:34,770 will cover this persistently until some... 297 00:13:34,950 --> 00:13:37,740 you know, the alien king breaks into the 6:00 news 298 00:13:37,830 --> 00:13:39,450 and demands obedience. 299 00:13:39,540 --> 00:13:42,510 Right? I think they’re gonna persist in ignoring it 300 00:13:42,690 --> 00:13:46,200 because there’s just a-a lot of social pressure to, to scoff. 301 00:13:46,380 --> 00:13:48,720 You get societal 302 00:13:48,810 --> 00:13:52,410 breakdown after a while when the people in charge lie. 303 00:13:52,590 --> 00:13:55,290 Because it makes it impossible 304 00:13:55,380 --> 00:13:58,980 for people to accept anything, any explanation at face value. 305 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,140 Um, and it corrodes the bonds that, 306 00:14:01,230 --> 00:14:03,300 that connect the government 307 00:14:03,390 --> 00:14:05,280 to its citizens, so... 308 00:14:05,460 --> 00:14:07,890 I think it’s very likely that we’re gonna learn more. 309 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:10,860 NARRATOR: There are many who believe 310 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,470 that the disclosure process is not new 311 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:16,620 but has simply entered a different phase. 312 00:14:16,710 --> 00:14:21,480 They argue that disclosure actually started decades ago, 313 00:14:21,660 --> 00:14:25,620 and was part of a strategic plan to prep the global population 314 00:14:25,710 --> 00:14:27,600 by means of books, movies, 315 00:14:27,780 --> 00:14:33,270 TV shows, and other forms of popular entertainment. 316 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,700 BASSETT: 45% of the American people right now, 317 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,670 when polled, say that, yeah, the ETs are already here. 318 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,640 They’ve been watching movies since they were five years old 319 00:14:41,820 --> 00:14:43,530 about extraterrestrials. 320 00:14:43,710 --> 00:14:46,410 We have been heavily indoctrinated or educated 321 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:48,300 on the concept of extraterrestrials. 322 00:14:48,390 --> 00:14:51,000 We fly in spaceships in-in our CGI movies. 323 00:14:51,180 --> 00:14:53,790 So the idea that suddenly we’re told there’s extraterrestrials 324 00:14:53,970 --> 00:14:56,220 actually here as being some unbelievable, 325 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:58,560 had-no-idea kind of thing... no. 326 00:14:58,650 --> 00:15:01,170 NARRATOR But if mankind is on a so-called 327 00:15:01,350 --> 00:15:03,060 "countdown to disclosure," 328 00:15:03,150 --> 00:15:07,110 does that simply mean that our government and those 329 00:15:07,290 --> 00:15:11,070 around the world are aware that intelligent life does exist 330 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,230 on some other, distant planet? 331 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,100 Or does it suggest that some form of alien intelligence 332 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,790 has already come here, and may, in fact, 333 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,840 have been living here for centuries? 334 00:15:28,980 --> 00:15:30,870 NARRATOR: As far as ancient astronaut theorists 335 00:15:31,050 --> 00:15:33,660 and UFO enthusiasts are concerned, 336 00:15:33,750 --> 00:15:35,550 the sudden flurry of information 337 00:15:35,730 --> 00:15:37,440 concerning possible alien encounters 338 00:15:37,530 --> 00:15:41,130 comes as no surprise. 339 00:15:41,310 --> 00:15:44,190 For them, evidence of extraterrestrial 340 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,240 encounters has been obvious for several decades. 341 00:15:48,420 --> 00:15:50,490 What has them baffled, however, 342 00:15:50,580 --> 00:15:54,000 is the fact that after decades of harsh denials, 343 00:15:54,090 --> 00:15:56,970 governments all over the world are beginning 344 00:15:57,150 --> 00:16:00,030 to open up their files and cooperate. 345 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,640 DOLAN: In fact, there’s been a disclosure movement 346 00:16:02,730 --> 00:16:04,440 for about 70 years now. 347 00:16:04,530 --> 00:16:07,230 Starting in the 1950s, you get 348 00:16:07,410 --> 00:16:09,660 an organization known as NICAP 349 00:16:09,750 --> 00:16:13,260 formed in the late ’50s with the express intent 350 00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:16,230 of researching UFOs in a very meticulous way, 351 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,120 at the same time getting political action 352 00:16:18,210 --> 00:16:19,650 on this matter in Congress. 353 00:16:19,830 --> 00:16:22,170 PODESTA: I think that there’s been a history 354 00:16:22,260 --> 00:16:24,600 and a perception that the government 355 00:16:24,690 --> 00:16:27,660 has been hiding the ball. 356 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,000 And I think there’s a reason for that, 357 00:16:30,180 --> 00:16:34,050 which is that most of the investigations, 358 00:16:34,140 --> 00:16:37,380 uh, has been done through classified programs. 359 00:16:37,470 --> 00:16:39,540 And I think that’s led to a lot of speculation 360 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,890 about what the government’s hiding. 361 00:16:40,980 --> 00:16:44,310 And the best disinfectant is 362 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,100 to let the American people know what the truth is. 363 00:16:47,190 --> 00:16:50,340 CORBELL: That system was a closed loop for a long time. 364 00:16:50,430 --> 00:16:52,320 However, after the recent events, 365 00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:53,940 the Navy has then changed 366 00:16:54,030 --> 00:16:57,450 their attitude towards reporting these things. 367 00:16:57,630 --> 00:16:59,610 This is big, this is real, 368 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:02,940 this is happening, and if-if you don’t understand it, 369 00:17:03,030 --> 00:17:04,740 it’s time for you catch up. 370 00:17:07,260 --> 00:17:10,140 NARRATOR: Many date the origin of both the first U.S. government cover-up 371 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,550 and the disclosure movement to July 1947... 372 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,510 the date of the now-famous Roswell UFO crash. 373 00:17:18,690 --> 00:17:21,750 The incident began when the Air Force 374 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,270 issued an astounding press release 375 00:17:24,450 --> 00:17:26,610 stating that the military recovered the remains 376 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:30,120 of a "flying disc" from a New Mexico ranch. 377 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:34,080 The story immediately became front-page news 378 00:17:34,170 --> 00:17:36,330 in the local paper. 379 00:17:36,420 --> 00:17:39,660 But within a day, officials retracted 380 00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:42,000 their initial statement and dismissed the find 381 00:17:42,090 --> 00:17:45,600 as simply debris from a downed weather balloon. 382 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:51,900 The first press release was the truth. 383 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,590 And the second one was a lie. 384 00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:58,470 And I call it "the foundational lie." 385 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,790 Because, to the best of my knowledge, 386 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,490 from that day, 1947, 387 00:18:05,580 --> 00:18:10,170 until 2017, the group that became 388 00:18:10,350 --> 00:18:13,050 what we have called the shadow government has not told 389 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:17,550 the truth about anything of significance. 390 00:18:19,710 --> 00:18:21,960 NARRATOR: Shortly after the Roswell incident, 391 00:18:22,050 --> 00:18:24,750 various groups and individuals began demanding 392 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,170 that the U.S. military tell the truth about UFOs. 393 00:18:28,260 --> 00:18:31,410 But although the government formed 394 00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:33,570 a series of investigative bodies, 395 00:18:33,660 --> 00:18:35,460 including Project Grudge, 396 00:18:35,550 --> 00:18:37,710 Project Blue Book, and the Condon Committee, 397 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,130 they never produced any viable evidence. 398 00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:45,180 In retrospect, many consider that such government efforts 399 00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:46,890 were designed not to promote disclosure 400 00:18:46,980 --> 00:18:49,500 but to stifle it. 401 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:51,660 They would investigate cases. 402 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,180 And the intriguing thing about all of it is, 403 00:18:54,270 --> 00:18:57,240 is maybe ten percent of the cases that they looked at 404 00:18:57,420 --> 00:18:58,860 were unexplainable. 405 00:18:58,950 --> 00:19:01,830 They did not know what they were. 406 00:19:02,010 --> 00:19:04,620 They always come out officially after and go, 407 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:06,330 "Hey, there’s some things we can’t explain here, 408 00:19:06,420 --> 00:19:07,770 "but there’s nothing to see, there’s no ET, 409 00:19:07,860 --> 00:19:09,570 "there’s no evidence of any kind 410 00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:12,000 of extraterrestrial-controlled craft flying in the skies." 411 00:19:14,610 --> 00:19:16,950 NARRATOR: When the CIA formed a scientific committee 412 00:19:17,130 --> 00:19:22,080 called the Robertson Panel to review unsolved UFO cases, 413 00:19:22,170 --> 00:19:25,770 the committee found that continued reporting on UFOs 414 00:19:25,860 --> 00:19:29,370 might cause "hysterical mass behavior." 415 00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:32,610 It issued a top secret recommendation 416 00:19:32,790 --> 00:19:35,940 suggesting that the government undertake an aggressive 417 00:19:36,030 --> 00:19:38,460 public relations campaign to systematically 418 00:19:38,550 --> 00:19:40,530 debunk UFO sightings. 419 00:19:42,330 --> 00:19:46,020 This is the-the typical government response. 420 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,180 Just form a panel and tell everybody that what 421 00:19:48,270 --> 00:19:51,240 they think they saw is not what is the actual reality. 422 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:56,730 WHITEHEAD: I think that was the start of the propaganda machine. 423 00:19:56,820 --> 00:19:58,980 It’s counterintelligence information. 424 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,590 So they release little bits of truth, but then 425 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,940 they just say, "You know what? 426 00:20:03,030 --> 00:20:03,840 "It... there’s nothing to see here. 427 00:20:03,930 --> 00:20:06,180 Go back to sleep." 428 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:10,500 NARRATOR: Over the decades, 429 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,300 and despite government denials, 430 00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:14,730 a robust citizens’ movement took shape 431 00:20:14,910 --> 00:20:17,700 that investigated incidents, published reports, 432 00:20:17,790 --> 00:20:19,590 and held news conferences... 433 00:20:19,770 --> 00:20:23,370 all in an attempt to demand disclosure. 434 00:20:23,460 --> 00:20:27,150 One notable effort was the Citizens’ Hearing on Disclosure, 435 00:20:27,330 --> 00:20:30,390 held in Washington in 2013, 436 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,730 in which multiple credible witnesses 437 00:20:32,910 --> 00:20:36,060 testified about UFO incursions. 438 00:20:36,150 --> 00:20:39,570 There is no doubt that the United States government 439 00:20:39,660 --> 00:20:41,640 has known about the extraterrestrial 440 00:20:41,820 --> 00:20:44,070 interactions with Earth 441 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,770 and that their policies of denial in the alleged interest 442 00:20:46,860 --> 00:20:50,100 of national security are still in effect. 443 00:20:50,190 --> 00:20:52,440 BASSETT: Paradigm Research Group, 444 00:20:52,620 --> 00:20:54,690 my organization, 445 00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:58,470 began by delivering to the entire Congress a full 446 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,170 30 hours of testimony, which I felt, and many do feel, 447 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:04,410 was the most important citizen disclosure event at that time. 448 00:21:04,590 --> 00:21:08,280 These objects know in great detail 449 00:21:08,370 --> 00:21:09,630 how our missiles operate and they can 450 00:21:09,810 --> 00:21:11,610 shut down our missiles at any time. 451 00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:13,500 We got a lot of media attention, 452 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,100 in-including some attention from Congress. 453 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:19,350 Um, and, of course, we had these ex-congressmen 454 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,870 sit in as we presented our case. 455 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,290 So this movement, disclosure movement, uh, 456 00:21:25,380 --> 00:21:27,270 has been going on for some time. 457 00:21:27,450 --> 00:21:30,150 What kind of defense do we have against these things? 458 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:32,670 I think we changed a lot of minds. 459 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,200 But then, of course, things... 460 00:21:34,290 --> 00:21:35,820 changed the next day, 461 00:21:35,910 --> 00:21:37,530 The-the news cycles. 462 00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:42,750 NARRATOR: For years, UFO advocates have argued 463 00:21:42,930 --> 00:21:45,720 that such high-profile efforts were secretly subjected 464 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,970 to government whisper campaigns, 465 00:21:48,150 --> 00:21:50,310 each designed to discredit witnesses 466 00:21:50,490 --> 00:21:53,550 and divert public attention from disclosure. 467 00:21:53,730 --> 00:21:55,890 TSOUKALOS: The government did everything 468 00:21:55,980 --> 00:21:59,040 in order to stop these whistleblowers 469 00:21:59,130 --> 00:22:02,730 or to deny these witnesses, but guess what. 470 00:22:02,910 --> 00:22:05,790 That did not stop the whistleblowers from talking 471 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,940 and it certainly did not stop the research. 472 00:22:09,030 --> 00:22:12,540 In fact, this little flame 473 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,670 that began in the 1950s is now a raging fire. 474 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,820 And it is illuminating all of the darkness. 475 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,870 NARRATOR: But if the government has been conspiring 476 00:22:25,050 --> 00:22:27,930 to silence UFO researchers, witnesses, 477 00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:31,710 and believers since the Roswell crash... why? 478 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,410 Is it to avoid widespread panic? 479 00:22:34,590 --> 00:22:38,190 Or was it something more strategic? 480 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,980 Possibly, it was designed to keep the knowledge 481 00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:44,040 that was gleaned from extraterrestrial encounters 482 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:48,000 from getting into so-called enemy hands. 483 00:22:57,090 --> 00:23:00,600 NARRATOR: Prominent think tank the Brookings Institution 484 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:02,760 issues a 186-page, 485 00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:06,360 government-funded report that examines, in part, 486 00:23:06,540 --> 00:23:09,150 the question of how humanity would react 487 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,120 to the discovery of extraterrestrial life. 488 00:23:15,630 --> 00:23:18,330 The report speculates that if NASA were to make 489 00:23:18,420 --> 00:23:22,740 such a discovery public, it could result in chaos. 490 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,160 BASSETT: They used the Brookings Institute 491 00:23:26,250 --> 00:23:27,780 to get a report done and to talk 492 00:23:27,870 --> 00:23:29,850 about the implications of this. 493 00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:31,470 And it was kind of about, 494 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,540 "Oh, people will panic, 495 00:23:33,630 --> 00:23:34,980 "uh, markets will collapse, 496 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,870 religion will collapse," blah, blah, blah. 497 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:41,370 HELLYER: I would be willing to accept 498 00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:44,520 that the original decision 499 00:23:44,610 --> 00:23:47,760 to, uh, withhold the truth 500 00:23:47,850 --> 00:23:51,900 was based partly, at least, on that concern. 501 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,770 But that, over the years, has disappeared totally. 502 00:23:57,660 --> 00:23:59,910 NARRATOR: In a 2018 study conducted 503 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,250 by Arizona State University, 504 00:24:02,340 --> 00:24:04,770 participants were asked to review media stories 505 00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:06,930 about recent discoveries 506 00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:10,170 that suggest extraterrestrial life exists. 507 00:24:10,260 --> 00:24:14,220 Surprisingly, researchers found that in the 2000s, 508 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,110 the reaction to this idea 509 00:24:16,290 --> 00:24:19,980 has become almost entirely positive. 510 00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:22,590 HENRY: What this suggests is that, even from a religious perspective, 511 00:24:22,770 --> 00:24:25,560 people have grown more accepting 512 00:24:25,650 --> 00:24:28,530 of the possibility of extraterrestrial life. 513 00:24:28,620 --> 00:24:33,030 NARRATOR: If fears of creating widespread panic are outdated, 514 00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:36,270 why is the U.S. military still so reluctant 515 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:38,160 to share what it has learned 516 00:24:38,340 --> 00:24:40,590 about extraterrestrials and UFOs? 517 00:24:42,660 --> 00:24:45,360 The fact that there might be panic in the streets, 518 00:24:45,450 --> 00:24:48,420 I-I think that was more of an excuse. 519 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,300 I think, uh, the military aspect... 520 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,730 that the recovered craft 521 00:24:53,820 --> 00:24:57,060 could be used to develop military weaponry... 522 00:24:57,150 --> 00:25:00,660 was probably more the reason for the secrecy. 523 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,350 Two fighter pilots from the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz 524 00:25:13,530 --> 00:25:16,320 investigate an unidentified aircraft 525 00:25:16,410 --> 00:25:18,390 off the coast of San Diego. 526 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,980 They encounter a bright white, oval-shaped craft 527 00:25:23,070 --> 00:25:25,050 that resembles a massive Tic Tac... 528 00:25:25,230 --> 00:25:27,120 over 40 feet long, 529 00:25:27,210 --> 00:25:29,460 and it has no windshield or wings. 530 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:39,360 According to Navy pilot David Fravor, 531 00:25:39,450 --> 00:25:41,430 the ship makes seemingly impossible stops 532 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,960 and turns over the Pacific 533 00:25:43,140 --> 00:25:45,300 before accelerating away 534 00:25:45,390 --> 00:25:47,370 at thousands of miles per hour. 535 00:25:49,530 --> 00:25:51,420 HOWE: And this is David Fravor, 536 00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:53,760 skilled pilot. 537 00:25:53,940 --> 00:25:56,460 He said, "I am looking 538 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,340 "at speeds, 539 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,500 "90-degree angles, 540 00:26:01,590 --> 00:26:03,840 stopping." 541 00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:07,440 Any human inside of what I’m watching 542 00:26:07,530 --> 00:26:10,680 could not sustain life. 543 00:26:10,770 --> 00:26:13,470 MICHIO KAKU: We have these videotapes. 544 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,810 We can actually calculate the velocity 545 00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:16,980 of these objects. 546 00:26:17,070 --> 00:26:19,050 We can calculate the g-forces 547 00:26:19,140 --> 00:26:20,580 on these ships. 548 00:26:20,670 --> 00:26:22,650 So that’s the sea change. 549 00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:25,440 It used to be that if you were a UFO believer, 550 00:26:25,530 --> 00:26:27,240 the burden of proof was on you 551 00:26:27,330 --> 00:26:30,390 to prove that you saw something in the sky. 552 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,460 Now it’s shifted. 553 00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:35,970 Now the establishment has to prove 554 00:26:36,150 --> 00:26:39,300 that it isn’t a visitor from another planet. 555 00:26:39,390 --> 00:26:41,730 NARRATOR: For UFO researchers, 556 00:26:41,910 --> 00:26:44,160 the recent videos finally provide 557 00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:46,320 clear evidence not only of what the government 558 00:26:46,410 --> 00:26:48,660 has been hiding for decades... 559 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:55,680 ...but the potential reason for the cover-up. 560 00:26:55,860 --> 00:26:58,110 The technology is the key. 561 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,720 If any single factor 562 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:03,150 explains UFO secrecy, 563 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,210 it’s the aspiration to acquire 564 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:08,910 extraterrestrial technology. 565 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,790 The nation that first acquires that technology 566 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,490 is going to be in game-changing territory. 567 00:27:14,670 --> 00:27:17,550 This is truly an arms race. 568 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,970 Whoever figures this out first wins. 569 00:27:21,060 --> 00:27:25,830 So any developed nation is looking right now to leap ahead 570 00:27:26,010 --> 00:27:28,620 with a technological innovation, based upon 571 00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:31,680 the reverse engineering of what we’re seeing in the skies. 572 00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:34,560 What our pilots are engaging in the skies. 573 00:27:34,650 --> 00:27:36,810 What Commander Fravor chased. 574 00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:40,680 NARRATOR: To many, the military’s desire 575 00:27:40,770 --> 00:27:43,380 to monopolize extraterrestrial technology 576 00:27:43,470 --> 00:27:46,890 is reason enough to explain a cover-up. 577 00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:49,500 But some believe there are additional motives 578 00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:51,480 for government secrecy. 579 00:27:51,660 --> 00:27:53,910 While others point to a general culture 580 00:27:54,090 --> 00:27:57,510 of bureaucratic secrecy that pervades all of government. 581 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,840 Some disclosure advocates say that the reason why 582 00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:04,350 we haven’t seen disclosure yet is because of economics. 583 00:28:04,530 --> 00:28:08,130 That you have an oil-based economy, and clearly 584 00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:11,100 the craft that we see in the skies are not running on oil. 585 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:12,900 They’re using advanced propulsion systems 586 00:28:12,990 --> 00:28:14,790 that would completely transform 587 00:28:14,970 --> 00:28:17,760 the economies of Earth if they’re ever implemented. 588 00:28:17,850 --> 00:28:19,560 HELLYER: So, yes. 589 00:28:19,740 --> 00:28:22,440 It would have a negative financial 590 00:28:22,530 --> 00:28:24,870 impact for the wealthiest people 591 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,030 who own the oil in the ground. 592 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:31,530 But it’s not the whole story. 593 00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:32,970 PODESTA: The government 594 00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:34,680 seems to be completely unaccountable 595 00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:36,570 to the American public. 596 00:28:36,750 --> 00:28:39,000 They may be accountable to their superiors 597 00:28:39,090 --> 00:28:41,610 in the Department of Defense or at NASA or others. 598 00:28:41,790 --> 00:28:46,560 But they rarely release anything they do know. 599 00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:53,400 WENDT: I think we’re afraid to find out what these phenomena are. 600 00:28:53,490 --> 00:28:55,830 Governments in particular are afraid, and the reason for that, 601 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,360 I think, is because the contract between 602 00:28:57,540 --> 00:28:58,980 governments and their people 603 00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:00,870 is that governments provide security, 604 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,120 and that we provide loyalty to the government. 605 00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,550 If you even raise the issue of the possibility 606 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,250 that UFOs are ETs, 607 00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:10,590 then that raises big questions 608 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,840 about that contract because it’s clear that the government 609 00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:16,440 cannot provide security for us from these beings. 610 00:29:16,620 --> 00:29:18,510 And that would call into question, well, why should I 611 00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:20,670 be loyal to the government and everything else? 612 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,560 It would undermine the sovereignty of the government, 613 00:29:22,740 --> 00:29:24,990 the sovereignty of the state. 614 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,500 NARRATOR: But even with a growing number of more open-minded policies 615 00:29:28,590 --> 00:29:31,290 concerning both UFO reporting 616 00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:33,900 and disclosure, there are many 617 00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:36,420 who doubt that the U.S. military’s penchant for secrecy 618 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,010 will ever really allow full disclosure. 619 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,070 They insist that America is far too afraid 620 00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:47,040 that extraterrestrial knowledge could fall into the hands 621 00:29:47,130 --> 00:29:49,110 of its territorial enemies 622 00:29:49,290 --> 00:29:52,170 to ever admit that aliens do exist. 623 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,250 NARRATOR: Santiago, Chile. 624 00:30:02,340 --> 00:30:06,120 November 11, 2014. 625 00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:09,090 A Chilean Navy helicopter 626 00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:11,250 is on a routine daytime patrol mission 627 00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:14,220 flying north along the coast, west of Santiago. 628 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,720 While filming the terrain, 629 00:30:18,810 --> 00:30:20,250 a technician observes a strange object 630 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:22,680 flying to the left, over the ocean. 631 00:30:25,020 --> 00:30:27,630 He aims his camera and records the encounter. 632 00:30:31,230 --> 00:30:35,370 The Navy immediately turns over the footage to the CEFAA... 633 00:30:35,550 --> 00:30:39,330 the Chilean government agency that investigates UFOs. 634 00:30:39,420 --> 00:30:42,030 And they release it. 635 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,900 We have the Chilean government also releasing all kinds of 636 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,770 fighter footage from their own military jets. 637 00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:54,810 So the government and the-the military 638 00:30:54,990 --> 00:30:57,690 has been studying this for over 70 years. 639 00:30:57,780 --> 00:31:01,740 And they must have so much evidence, 640 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,330 in-including video footage, that they are keeping secret from us 641 00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:08,400 that would boggle your mind. 642 00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:12,090 NARRATOR: Over the past ten years, 643 00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:15,150 there has been a movement among many governments 644 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,120 to declassify some of their UFO investigations 645 00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:20,010 and release them to the public. 646 00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:21,990 PODESTA: I think that people 647 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,880 around the world, in Belgium and Chile and in, 648 00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:26,940 in, uh, the U.K. and other countries have said, 649 00:31:27,030 --> 00:31:29,190 "You know, we ought to, we ought to really take a look 650 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,540 at what’s going on." 651 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,160 DOLAN: But the fact is, 652 00:31:32,250 --> 00:31:34,500 the U.S. intelligence infrastructure 653 00:31:34,590 --> 00:31:36,480 is often deeply imbedded in the infrastructures 654 00:31:36,570 --> 00:31:37,920 of those countries. 655 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:39,900 So, in other words, they can’t say boo 656 00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:43,320 without the U.S. and NSA, particularly, knowing about it. 657 00:31:43,410 --> 00:31:46,470 NARRATOR: If allies of the United States 658 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,990 are reluctant to disclose the facts 659 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,410 about UFOs and possible extraterrestrial visitation 660 00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:54,750 without American permission, 661 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,630 what about America’s adversaries? 662 00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:03,750 Hangzhou, China. 663 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,440 July 7, 2010. 664 00:32:07,530 --> 00:32:11,850 Chinese officials shut down Xiaoshan International Airport 665 00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:13,740 for nearly an hour 666 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,610 after an unidentified aircraft is seen in the vicinity. 667 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:23,820 The incident marks one of the very few times 668 00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:26,070 the Chinese ever publicly admit 669 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,950 that UFO sightings happen in their country. 670 00:32:33,810 --> 00:32:38,130 POPE: I can’t see any circumstances where disclosure 671 00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:42,180 of an alien presence would do anything other than loosen 672 00:32:42,270 --> 00:32:47,310 the hold of the party on the people. 673 00:32:47,490 --> 00:32:51,810 It’s not in China’s interest to disclose. 674 00:32:53,250 --> 00:32:54,510 NARRATOR: In Russia, 675 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,850 details about any recent UFO incidents 676 00:32:57,030 --> 00:32:59,550 are even harder to come by, 677 00:32:59,730 --> 00:33:04,410 as all media outlets are currently controlled by one man, 678 00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:06,570 Vladimir Putin. 679 00:33:06,660 --> 00:33:12,060 Announcing the existence of aliens is not in any way 680 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,840 going to strengthen Putin’s hold on power. 681 00:33:17,730 --> 00:33:20,610 Why would he? What’s, what’s the benefit to him? 682 00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:24,210 What would he get out of it? 683 00:33:24,390 --> 00:33:27,540 Putting one over on the Americans? Well, maybe. 684 00:33:27,630 --> 00:33:31,410 But the downside, in terms of the one thing 685 00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:33,840 that Putin can’t afford... instability... 686 00:33:33,930 --> 00:33:36,630 the downside is too big to gamble with. 687 00:33:38,340 --> 00:33:40,410 NARRATOR: But if China and Russia 688 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:42,390 are unwilling to disclose what they know 689 00:33:42,570 --> 00:33:45,450 about possible extraterrestrial contact, 690 00:33:45,630 --> 00:33:48,240 and no other countries will do so 691 00:33:48,330 --> 00:33:51,120 without the blessing of the United States, 692 00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:56,070 then why are we beginning to see a gradually more open attitude 693 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,670 concerning disclosure on the part of the U.S. military? 694 00:33:59,850 --> 00:34:03,180 What has changed in recent years? 695 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,050 Ancient astronaut theorists believe the answer can be found 696 00:34:07,140 --> 00:34:08,760 by taking a closer look 697 00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:12,990 at recent activities involving America’s space program. 698 00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:20,550 Boca Chica, Texas. 699 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,410 August 27, 2019. 700 00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:28,380 SpaceX, a private aerospace company 701 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:30,810 run by billionaire Elon Musk, 702 00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:34,050 announces the successful fourth and final test flight 703 00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:37,110 of their starship prototype Starhopper. 704 00:34:39,540 --> 00:34:43,050 The craft is an early conceptual model 705 00:34:43,230 --> 00:34:45,300 that Musk hopes will bring the company closer 706 00:34:45,390 --> 00:34:49,800 to its ultimate goal: creating a 100-person starship 707 00:34:49,890 --> 00:34:52,950 capable of transporting humans to Mars. 708 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,350 PODESTA: I think in the private sector, oddly, there’s the potential 709 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,040 to have at least more public disclosure, 710 00:35:02,220 --> 00:35:05,550 given the fact that the Air Force have been so unwilling 711 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,500 to try to seriously review and release what they do know. 712 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,440 NARRATOR: As far as many ancient astronaut theorists are concerned, 713 00:35:16,620 --> 00:35:19,770 the ongoing efforts to privatize space exploration, 714 00:35:19,860 --> 00:35:22,290 by everyone from Elon Musk 715 00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:25,080 and Amazon.com billionaire Jeff Bezos 716 00:35:25,170 --> 00:35:29,400 to Robert Bigelow and Virgin Atlantic’s Richard Branson, 717 00:35:29,490 --> 00:35:32,100 will soon make secrecy about UFOs 718 00:35:32,190 --> 00:35:35,520 and possible alien visitations a thing of the past. 719 00:35:39,390 --> 00:35:42,630 TSOUKALOS: Sooner or later, there will be space tourists, 720 00:35:42,810 --> 00:35:45,960 so what if they walk on the surface of Mars 721 00:35:46,050 --> 00:35:50,370 or the surface of-of the Moon and will walk by an artifact? 722 00:35:50,460 --> 00:35:52,800 Well, am I allowed to take a-a selfie? 723 00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:55,230 Am I allowed to take a photo? 724 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,470 Or do I have to go through NASA first? 725 00:35:58,650 --> 00:36:02,160 You’re not going to ask NASA for permission first. 726 00:36:02,250 --> 00:36:05,850 The fact that we are now entering this new era 727 00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:10,620 in space exploration illustrates to me 728 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:13,590 that the doors are open. 729 00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:21,150 NARRATOR: In a world that includes 24-hour news, WikiLeaks, 730 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:24,300 and a growing number of corporate space entrepreneurs, 731 00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:28,710 is discovering the truth about aliens simply inevitable? 732 00:36:28,890 --> 00:36:31,140 Throughout history, governments have never been able 733 00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:32,760 to keep a secret. 734 00:36:32,850 --> 00:36:34,380 Look at all the so-called secrets 735 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,610 that are being exposed almost on a daily basis. 736 00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:41,580 Governments are furious that some lowly clerk 737 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,360 is simply leaking all this evidence into the public domain, 738 00:36:45,540 --> 00:36:47,790 and so I think it’s gonna happen anyway. 739 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,030 But at that point, what do we do? 740 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:54,000 POPE: I think there is huge 741 00:36:54,090 --> 00:36:55,530 public interest in this... 742 00:36:55,620 --> 00:36:58,140 -Yes. -...and everyone wants to know what’s going on. 743 00:36:58,230 --> 00:37:00,480 Why will the government not tell us? 744 00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:02,100 Well, whose government is it? 745 00:37:02,190 --> 00:37:05,880 Does it belong to some GS-13, some bureaucrat? 746 00:37:06,060 --> 00:37:08,130 Of course not. We pay for it. 747 00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:10,560 We own it. This is a democracy. 748 00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:12,990 The default setting in D.C. is secrecy. 749 00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:15,690 There are still documents from the First World War, 750 00:37:15,780 --> 00:37:20,280 which was 102 years ago, that are classified. 751 00:37:20,370 --> 00:37:23,250 So, there’s a lot of information in Washington 752 00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:25,860 that ought to be public but that is not. 753 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,100 If you want to fix that, what you need is just political will. 754 00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:31,710 You need someone to stand up and say I’m not gonna be quiet. 755 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,140 Look me in the eye, speak slowly so I can understand. 756 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,390 Why are we not sharing this with the public? 757 00:37:36,570 --> 00:37:37,830 I want to make this stuff public. 758 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:54,120 Scientists, academics and researchers 759 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:57,450 gather at the Royal Society for a conference titled 760 00:37:57,630 --> 00:38:00,330 "The detection of extra-terrestrial life 761 00:38:00,420 --> 00:38:03,660 and the consequences for science and society." 762 00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:07,710 Although their stated goal is to create protocols for the world 763 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,860 in the event of an extraterrestrial visitation, 764 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,740 they are unable to come up with a cohesive plan. 765 00:38:13,830 --> 00:38:17,520 In fact, thus far, no official protocol 766 00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:20,130 for a post-disclosure world has been offered 767 00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:22,560 by the United Nations, the U.S. government, 768 00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:26,340 or any other global superpower. 769 00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:28,860 HENRY: We have military plans, 770 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,020 economic plans, 771 00:38:31,110 --> 00:38:33,630 we’ve got health care plans for people. 772 00:38:33,810 --> 00:38:35,700 But no plan for the single most important event 773 00:38:35,790 --> 00:38:37,230 in human history? 774 00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:39,300 How can that be, or why is that? 775 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:41,730 POPE: In government, you call it a low probability, 776 00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:44,160 high-impact scenario. 777 00:38:44,340 --> 00:38:47,220 Even if you think something is unlikely to happen, 778 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,810 if the societal consequences of it happening are big enough, 779 00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:54,150 you sure as heck need a plan. 780 00:38:54,330 --> 00:38:56,760 There isn’t one for extraterrestrials. 781 00:38:56,850 --> 00:38:58,470 There should be. 782 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,810 We have to prep the population. 783 00:39:00,990 --> 00:39:03,690 Prep humanity for what this means. 784 00:39:03,780 --> 00:39:06,300 And that’s not something that could be done in a week or two. 785 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,720 That’s gonna require a long, long discussion... 786 00:39:09,810 --> 00:39:12,060 ethical discussion, political discussion... 787 00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:14,760 about humanity and our place in the universe and so on. 788 00:39:14,940 --> 00:39:17,460 That’s a long process. 789 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,780 NARRATOR: As far as ancient astronaut theorists are concerned, 790 00:39:21,870 --> 00:39:24,300 whether the truth about alien encounters 791 00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:27,720 is revealed by world powers, renegade journalists, 792 00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:31,230 whistleblowers, or the extraterrestrials themselves, 793 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,660 disclosure is inevitable. 794 00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:37,890 TSOUKALOS: We are in the midst 795 00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:44,010 of finding out about our true cosmic origin on planet Earth, 796 00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:49,140 and right now it is one of the most exciting times to be alive. 797 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,370 And what I hope for after full disclosure 798 00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:56,070 is that we finally come together 799 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,840 as one human species and understanding 800 00:40:01,020 --> 00:40:04,620 that we are on this blue marble together. 801 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,660 I think it would change humanity’s consciousness. 802 00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:12,450 COMMAND: Okay, Neil, we can see you coming down the ladder now. 803 00:40:12,540 --> 00:40:15,060 PODESTA: Perhaps, much like when the astronauts 804 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:19,020 first took photos of the Earth from space, 805 00:40:19,110 --> 00:40:23,340 and you began to see the fragility and the beauty 806 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,400 of the Earth when shot from the Moon. 807 00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:31,620 That, I think, changed the way people related 808 00:40:31,710 --> 00:40:34,950 to the natural world, to our place in the universe. 809 00:40:35,130 --> 00:40:37,830 And I think it could have the same kind of effect. 810 00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:41,700 CORBELL: This will come from us, 811 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,670 not from a big daddy government. 812 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,010 This is gonna come from the people. 813 00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:51,420 Disclosure is up to individuals in this world 814 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,310 asking the right questions. 815 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,560 Because questions are weapons, 816 00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:57,360 and if we ask the right questions, 817 00:40:57,450 --> 00:40:59,160 we’re gonna get the right answers. 818 00:41:00,510 --> 00:41:02,310 POPE: I think the next time 819 00:41:02,490 --> 00:41:04,200 you’re with the president on Air Force One, 820 00:41:04,290 --> 00:41:06,810 you should give him a couple of beers and, uh, 821 00:41:06,990 --> 00:41:09,240 get the conversation going and say, "Come on," 822 00:41:09,330 --> 00:41:10,950 you know, "What-What’s going on?" 823 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,930 You know, the funny thing is, I was on Air Force One. 824 00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:15,180 I had dinner with him alone and I should have asked him that. 825 00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:16,890 -Thank you guys for coming. -Yeah, no, thanks. 826 00:41:16,980 --> 00:41:18,150 -It was so nice to meet you in person. -Yeah. 827 00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:19,410 Nice to meet you in person. 828 00:41:19,590 --> 00:41:22,470 NARRATOR: If mankind really is 829 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,440 on the verge of discovering that extraterrestrials 830 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,860 not only exist but that they’ve been right here on Earth 831 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,000 throughout human history, will it really come as a shock? 832 00:41:33,090 --> 00:41:35,520 Or will it merely be a confirmation of a truth 833 00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:40,830 that somehow we’ve always known deep within ourselves? 834 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,790 It is for this reason that ancient astronaut theorists 835 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,030 believe disclosure isn’t an event that others must trigger 836 00:41:48,210 --> 00:41:50,190 in order for it to happen. 837 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,250 It’s happening every day. 838 00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:57,570 And it’s not because information we are receiving has changed. 839 00:41:57,660 --> 00:42:00,540 What’s changed is the way we interpret it 840 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:03,690 and our willingness to accept the simple fact 841 00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:06,840 that we are not alone.