1 00:00:02,669 --> 00:00:04,369 (phone ringing tone) 2 00:00:04,505 --> 00:00:05,575 MIKE: Dani D, what’s up? 3 00:00:05,706 --> 00:00:07,336 DANIELLE: Well, good morning, how are you doing? 4 00:00:07,474 --> 00:00:10,314 MIKE: I’m feeling really good, I’m going to Pat Regis’s! 5 00:00:10,377 --> 00:00:11,777 MIKE: I’ll come up to 52. 6 00:00:11,912 --> 00:00:13,982 PAT: I’m not going to go any less than 55. 7 00:00:14,047 --> 00:00:17,177 MIKE: Pat is not budging. 55K is his number. 8 00:00:17,317 --> 00:00:18,317 MIKE: I’m tapping out. PAT: Okay. 9 00:00:18,385 --> 00:00:19,385 MIKE: Woo! 10 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,650 MIKE: This is the most money 11 00:00:20,787 --> 00:00:22,387 I’ve ever spent on anything. 12 00:00:22,456 --> 00:00:24,016 (laughing hysterically) 13 00:00:24,658 --> 00:00:25,828 MIKE: The third time. 14 00:00:25,893 --> 00:00:27,463 DANIELLE: Yeah, this is the third time, 15 00:00:27,594 --> 00:00:29,404 this is the Pat Regis trifecta. 16 00:00:29,463 --> 00:00:31,873 The pick’s so nice, we picked it thrice. 17 00:00:31,999 --> 00:00:33,929 MIKE: I bought a Royal Pioneer, 18 00:00:34,067 --> 00:00:36,537 and then we bought a killer cycle car, and now... 19 00:00:36,670 --> 00:00:38,910 DANIELLE: Somehow this man has even more of a collection 20 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:42,109 for us to explore. But now he has a whole new property 21 00:00:42,175 --> 00:00:43,935 and it’s in a stromboli factory. 22 00:00:44,077 --> 00:00:46,777 (laughing) MIKE: What?! How does that work? 23 00:00:46,914 --> 00:00:49,124 DANIELLE: Well, I mean, you’re about to find out. 24 00:00:49,182 --> 00:00:51,922 MIKE: Did he say what he’s got? DANIELLE: I don’t know, you know how Pat is. 25 00:00:51,985 --> 00:00:54,015 He could have the Ark of the Covenant next to a 1913 Harley. 26 00:00:54,087 --> 00:00:57,817 But listen, take a breath, relax, don’t get junk drunk. 27 00:00:57,958 --> 00:00:59,488 MIKE: In through the nose... (breathes in) 28 00:00:59,626 --> 00:01:01,256 (deep breath) MIKE: Out through the mouth. 29 00:01:02,095 --> 00:01:02,925 Calm myself. 30 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:03,863 DANIELLE: Serenity now. 31 00:01:03,997 --> 00:01:05,667 (exhales) 32 00:01:10,837 --> 00:01:14,367 MIKE: Pat Regis has been a friend and a mentor for a number of years. 33 00:01:14,508 --> 00:01:15,738 MIKE: Alright, here we are. (honks horn) 34 00:01:15,876 --> 00:01:18,676 MIKE: But he’s also a leading authority when it comes 35 00:01:18,745 --> 00:01:21,775 to pre-1915 American motorcycles. 36 00:01:21,915 --> 00:01:24,175 MIKE: Hey-hey! PAT: Hey. How-- 37 00:01:24,251 --> 00:01:26,021 MIKE: There it is! (laughs) 38 00:01:26,153 --> 00:01:27,393 PAT: Oh, I know, I know. 39 00:01:27,454 --> 00:01:29,164 PAT: I collect a lot of stuff, 40 00:01:29,222 --> 00:01:32,562 and I’m all over the board and sometimes I wonder about that. 41 00:01:32,626 --> 00:01:35,426 MIKE: Why this place? How’d you end up in a stromboli factory? 42 00:01:35,495 --> 00:01:37,795 PAT: The place where the cycle car came from... 43 00:01:37,864 --> 00:01:39,474 I sold that house, and I had to unload it. 44 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,130 MIKE: And you’re like, I got a friend that’s got 45 00:01:41,268 --> 00:01:42,838 a stromboli factory. PAT: Yes, that’s how, 46 00:01:42,903 --> 00:01:44,173 that’s why we’re here. 47 00:01:44,304 --> 00:01:45,744 PAT: I probably need professional help. 48 00:01:45,872 --> 00:01:47,712 (laughs) 49 00:01:47,774 --> 00:01:49,714 MIKE: Alright, where do you want to start? What’s going on? 50 00:01:49,776 --> 00:01:51,946 PAT: I’ll tell you what, we got this, this, a bunch of stuff inside. 51 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:53,549 MIKE: Oh, you got this here? Oh... 52 00:01:53,614 --> 00:01:55,784 MIKE: Oh my God! (laughs) 53 00:01:55,916 --> 00:01:58,446 PAT: At this stage of my life, the reason I’m selling... 54 00:01:58,585 --> 00:01:59,815 (laughs) ...is I think I need to get 55 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:01,293 rid of some of this stuff. 56 00:02:01,421 --> 00:02:03,261 MIKE: This looks priceless. PAT: Oh no... 57 00:02:03,390 --> 00:02:05,430 MIKE: Where did you get that at? What are you saving that for? 58 00:02:05,492 --> 00:02:07,862 PAT: I don’t know. You want it? MIKE: No, I don’t want it! 59 00:02:07,995 --> 00:02:09,705 (laughs) MIKE: This is a toilet tank. 60 00:02:09,830 --> 00:02:11,630 PAT: That’s from my mom and dad’s house, but-- 61 00:02:11,698 --> 00:02:13,428 MIKE: Okay, okay. PAT: It’s a five-gallon tank, 62 00:02:13,500 --> 00:02:14,870 and they don’t make them anymore. 63 00:02:14,935 --> 00:02:16,845 MIKE: And you can’t get-- So you want the power flush. 64 00:02:16,903 --> 00:02:18,543 (Pat making flushing noise) 65 00:02:18,672 --> 00:02:20,942 MIKE: So now I’m starting to see a completely different side to Pat. 66 00:02:21,074 --> 00:02:22,744 He’s got like Hobby Lobby paintings, 67 00:02:22,876 --> 00:02:24,736 he’s got toilet tanks from his mom’s house, 68 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:29,221 I mean... this goes way, way beyond the excessive collecting 69 00:02:30,717 --> 00:02:32,187 MIKE: That’s working today... 70 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:34,549 (grunting) 71 00:02:35,389 --> 00:02:36,689 MIKE: Yeah, now you’re talking. 72 00:02:36,823 --> 00:02:39,463 MIKE: In order to do this efficiently and effectively... 73 00:02:39,593 --> 00:02:41,293 MIKE: So you’ve got somebody’s race numbers... 74 00:02:41,428 --> 00:02:43,458 MIKE: ...I want to take things and gather them, 75 00:02:43,597 --> 00:02:44,797 and put them in a pile. 76 00:02:44,865 --> 00:02:46,875 MIKE: This is bicycle, put this in the bicycle pile. 77 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,970 MIKE: Okay, so here’s the bicycle section. 78 00:02:49,102 --> 00:02:51,042 MIKE: What about this? Look at that, that’s killer. 79 00:02:51,104 --> 00:02:51,914 PAT: Yeah, that’s good. 80 00:02:52,039 --> 00:02:53,069 MIKE: Here’s the random, 81 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:55,280 this is kind of cool funky stuff section... 82 00:02:55,342 --> 00:02:57,942 MIKE: Look at that. (wolf whistles) 83 00:02:58,011 --> 00:03:00,551 It’s missing the cover with the brake shoe. 84 00:03:00,681 --> 00:03:03,051 MIKE: Because at the end of the day when I get it all out, 85 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:04,923 then I want to try and buy it as a pile. 86 00:03:04,985 --> 00:03:05,995 MIKE: Ugh... 87 00:03:06,119 --> 00:03:07,749 PAT: Oh, my pet-- Okay, this is a good find. 88 00:03:07,821 --> 00:03:09,221 MIKE: This is new-old stock. PAT: No kidding. 89 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:11,216 MIKE: These are Torrington 10s. PAT: I know, I know exactly, yeah. 90 00:03:11,358 --> 00:03:15,228 MIKE: Torrington 10s. They are the deluxe pedal untouched. 91 00:03:15,295 --> 00:03:17,455 MIKE: I don’t think the guy at the pedal factory realized 92 00:03:17,531 --> 00:03:21,431 he was making something that someday would be so collectable 93 00:03:21,501 --> 00:03:23,771 MIKE: I mean, God, I can’t... PAT: I know, where do you find one? 94 00:03:23,904 --> 00:03:25,374 PAT: They’re desirable, they’re rare. 95 00:03:25,505 --> 00:03:26,705 You find beat-up ones, 96 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,680 but you never find new-old stock. 97 00:03:28,742 --> 00:03:32,152 MIKE: I mean, the pedal rubbers have never had a shoe on it. 98 00:03:32,279 --> 00:03:35,619 MIKE: Well, I’m thinking they’re worth, I don’t know, between 3 and 500. 99 00:03:35,749 --> 00:03:36,749 PAT: They’re expensive, I know. 100 00:03:36,817 --> 00:03:38,317 PAT: I bet you I paid 100, 101 00:03:38,385 --> 00:03:41,455 130 bucks, 115 bucks for those things 30 years ago. 102 00:03:41,588 --> 00:03:43,258 MIKE: You got a seat... PAT: The hub... 103 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:45,360 MIKE: ...you got the pedals, you got a hub, 104 00:03:45,425 --> 00:03:47,385 and you’ve got this off of something. 105 00:03:47,461 --> 00:03:49,461 PAT: Do me right. MIKE: 500 bucks. 106 00:03:49,529 --> 00:03:51,299 PAT: 600. MIKE: 550. 107 00:03:51,431 --> 00:03:52,831 (Mike & Pat laugh) 108 00:03:52,899 --> 00:03:54,569 MIKE: There’s just box after bo 109 00:03:54,701 --> 00:03:58,471 from a collector that has been doing this for so long. 110 00:03:58,538 --> 00:04:02,378 MIKE: Here’s a cool sign. Oh, flanged. It’s flanged. 111 00:04:02,509 --> 00:04:03,879 PAT: Yeah, good flange. MIKE: Believe it or not, 112 00:04:03,944 --> 00:04:06,784 this sign falls under the category of tobacciana. 113 00:04:06,913 --> 00:04:07,783 MIKE: 300. 114 00:04:07,914 --> 00:04:09,184 PAT: Okay. MIKE: Alright, thanks. 115 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:10,919 PAT: That’s good. MIKE: Ugh! 116 00:04:10,984 --> 00:04:12,624 PAT: Okay. MIKE: Yeah... 117 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:14,693 Ugh, here’s a photo album. 118 00:04:14,821 --> 00:04:17,061 PAT: I don’t know who the guy was or what he did. 119 00:04:17,190 --> 00:04:19,390 MIKE: 1915. PAT: This is his whole life 120 00:04:19,459 --> 00:04:20,859 that he spent in school. 121 00:04:20,927 --> 00:04:23,097 MIKE: Cornell University, that’s in New York State. 122 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:25,270 There’s everything from invitations, 123 00:04:25,332 --> 00:04:26,632 ticket stubs. He was an athlete. 124 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:28,900 PAT: I’ll sell it to you for what I paid for it. 125 00:04:28,969 --> 00:04:30,669 MIKE: What’d you pay? PAT: 300. 126 00:04:30,737 --> 00:04:32,467 MIKE: Alright, I’ll take it. PAT: That’s a good deal. 127 00:04:32,539 --> 00:04:33,869 MIKE: I like it. I think it’s cool. 128 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:37,080 MIKE: There’s so many unique, personal, and interesting items 129 00:04:37,144 --> 00:04:39,354 I think this is going to be easy to move forward. 130 00:04:39,479 --> 00:04:41,379 MIKE: Look at this... colored ballot. 131 00:04:41,448 --> 00:04:43,218 PAT: This is from the ’20s, ’30s, ’40s, 132 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:44,780 you know, it’s a piece of history. 133 00:04:44,918 --> 00:04:46,388 MIKE: Absolutely. 134 00:05:00,233 --> 00:05:02,643 MIKE: This is a perfect example of how not all history 135 00:05:02,702 --> 00:05:04,342 is comfortable to talk about. 136 00:05:04,471 --> 00:05:06,541 MIKE: It needs to be in a museum. PAT: I know, I know. 137 00:05:06,673 --> 00:05:08,113 MIKE: I mean, it really, truly does. 138 00:05:08,175 --> 00:05:09,545 MIKE: But that alone is the reason why 139 00:05:09,609 --> 00:05:13,149 things like this need to be put into museums 140 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:15,320 so they can still be part of the conversation. 141 00:05:15,382 --> 00:05:18,122 MIKE: This is the kind of history that’s so important that we don’t forget. 142 00:05:18,185 --> 00:05:20,825 PAT: History does repeat itself, 143 00:05:20,954 --> 00:05:23,464 and if you don’t teach history the proper way, 144 00:05:23,590 --> 00:05:26,190 and people don’t know, they make the mistake again. 145 00:05:26,259 --> 00:05:27,429 MIKE: What are you thinking on this? 146 00:05:27,561 --> 00:05:29,601 PAT: Oh God, I don’t know, I just... 147 00:05:29,663 --> 00:05:31,463 The only reason I even got it 148 00:05:31,598 --> 00:05:32,928 was because of the historical significance of it. 149 00:05:33,066 --> 00:05:34,626 MIKE: Yeah, no, I understand why you would keep it 150 00:05:34,701 --> 00:05:37,501 and why you would rescue it. PAT: I don’t know how you put a value on it. 151 00:05:37,571 --> 00:05:39,141 MIKE: 200 bucks. PAT: Ah, it’s got to be-- 152 00:05:39,272 --> 00:05:40,772 MIKE: How about this? But I’m going to donate it. 153 00:05:40,907 --> 00:05:41,967 PAT: I know. 154 00:05:42,108 --> 00:05:43,938 MIKE: Over the years, when we found pieces like this, 155 00:05:44,077 --> 00:05:46,547 we’ve donated them to the Jim Crow Museum 156 00:05:46,613 --> 00:05:47,783 in Big Rapids, Michigan. 157 00:05:47,914 --> 00:05:49,424 PAT: If I sell it to you for 200, 158 00:05:49,549 --> 00:05:51,249 I’m donating some of the value to you too. 159 00:05:51,384 --> 00:05:52,854 MIKE: Exactly, that’s what I’m saying. 160 00:05:52,986 --> 00:05:54,616 So we would both be working towards that. 161 00:05:54,688 --> 00:05:55,788 PAT: That’s a deal. 162 00:05:55,856 --> 00:05:58,056 PAT: Never forget, and if you get rid of the stuff, 163 00:05:58,191 --> 00:05:59,961 you forget, or you don’t know, 164 00:06:00,026 --> 00:06:02,026 and you’re not taught and then things happen. 165 00:06:08,535 --> 00:06:09,905 JERSEY JON: We’re in California, man, you never know 166 00:06:10,036 --> 00:06:11,496 what’s going to happen out here, right? 167 00:06:11,571 --> 00:06:12,911 ROBBIE: Yeah. (phone ringing tone) 168 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:14,970 JERSEY JON: Hey Dani D, what’s up? 169 00:06:15,108 --> 00:06:17,108 DANIELLE: Hey, what’s up? How’re you guys doing? 170 00:06:17,177 --> 00:06:18,137 ROBBIE: Whaddup, Dani? 171 00:06:18,278 --> 00:06:19,578 DANIELLE: Are you guys ready for a lead? 172 00:06:19,713 --> 00:06:20,713 ROBBIE: Yeah. JERSEY JON: Yeah. 173 00:06:20,780 --> 00:06:22,380 DANIELLE: So I’m gonna send you guys to meet Jim. 174 00:06:22,515 --> 00:06:24,515 Now, Mike picked Jim like four years ago. 175 00:06:24,584 --> 00:06:27,824 ROBBIE: Yeah? DANIELLE: This guy is the vintage wine guru. 176 00:06:27,888 --> 00:06:30,618 MIKE: Ah! The honey hole of stills. 177 00:06:30,757 --> 00:06:33,457 ROBBIE: Yeah, oh, I remember Mike telling me about that guy. 178 00:06:33,593 --> 00:06:35,633 DANIELLE: The dude called me back and he has a whole ’nother 179 00:06:35,695 --> 00:06:37,255 collection in downtown Petaluma. 180 00:06:37,330 --> 00:06:39,400 ROBBIE: Really. DANIELLE: Mike never even saw this place. 181 00:06:39,466 --> 00:06:40,966 This is totally virgin territory. 182 00:06:41,101 --> 00:06:43,341 ROBBIE: If he even has a quarter of what my brother went through, 183 00:06:43,470 --> 00:06:45,340 I’m all about it. DANIELLE: I’m gonna send you the details, 184 00:06:45,472 --> 00:06:48,212 it’s in the basement of the back of a building downtown. 185 00:06:48,341 --> 00:06:50,981 ROBBIE: Okay. DANIELLE: He says there’s some sandbags around the back door 186 00:06:51,111 --> 00:06:53,781 from some flooding, so you should be able to spot it pretty easy. 187 00:06:53,914 --> 00:06:55,584 ROBBIE: Alright. Sounds good. JERSEY JON: Check it out, sounds good. 188 00:06:55,715 --> 00:06:57,745 DANIELLE: Alright, bye boys. ROBBIE: See ya, Dani. 189 00:07:01,655 --> 00:07:02,795 JERSEY JON: This is Water Street. 190 00:07:02,856 --> 00:07:04,086 JERSEY JON: I think it’s right over here. 191 00:07:04,224 --> 00:07:05,634 That’s got to be it, the sandbags. 192 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:07,429 ROBBIE: Okay, right here? JERSEY JON: Yep. 193 00:07:07,494 --> 00:07:08,734 Sandbag, bro. 194 00:07:08,862 --> 00:07:09,862 (knocks on door) 195 00:07:09,996 --> 00:07:11,396 ROBBIE: Dude, this place is packed. 196 00:07:11,464 --> 00:07:13,274 JERSEY JON: Yeah? ROBBIE: Yeah. 197 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:14,974 Jim? JIM: Hey. 198 00:07:15,101 --> 00:07:16,671 ROBBIE: How’re you doing? Rob Wolfe. 199 00:07:16,736 --> 00:07:18,666 JIM: Good. Oh hey... how are ya? ROBBIE: Good to see ya. 200 00:07:18,738 --> 00:07:20,908 JIM: You’re Mike’s brother. ROBBIE: Yeah. How are you? 201 00:07:21,007 --> 00:07:22,737 JERSEY JON: My name is Jon. JIM: Jon, how are ya? 202 00:07:22,809 --> 00:07:24,479 JERSEY JON: How are you, man? Nice to see you. 203 00:07:24,544 --> 00:07:25,954 JERSEY JON: What’s going on with these sandbags, man? 204 00:07:26,012 --> 00:07:28,182 JIM: Oh, we just had a huge deluge for three weeks. 205 00:07:28,248 --> 00:07:30,418 We had like over 30 inches of rain up here. 206 00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:31,980 JERSEY JON: I noticed you got the river. 207 00:07:32,052 --> 00:07:33,592 JIM: Yeah, and guess what? I’m below the river. 208 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,160 And I’m thinking, oh my God, I’ve got all this stuff down here. 209 00:07:36,222 --> 00:07:37,822 ROBBIE: Did the river come all the way up? 210 00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:39,858 JIM: This river came up and out over the banks. 211 00:07:39,993 --> 00:07:43,263 JIM: I brought out the sandbags, do I have to do this every time 212 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:45,730 the big rain comes? Yes. 213 00:07:45,865 --> 00:07:47,265 One of these times, it could happen. 214 00:07:47,334 --> 00:07:48,874 That would be one of the main reasons 215 00:07:48,935 --> 00:07:51,065 I’m thankful that Robbie and Jon are here. 216 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:53,467 They could help me clear out some of this stuff. 217 00:07:53,540 --> 00:07:55,270 JIM: Come on in. ROBBIE: It’s not like my brothe 218 00:07:55,342 --> 00:07:57,212 to leave a stone unturned. 219 00:07:57,344 --> 00:07:59,754 But Jim’s got a whole building that Mike has never seen it. 220 00:07:59,813 --> 00:08:02,113 JERSEY JON: Man, you do have a lot of stuff in here, wow! 221 00:08:02,182 --> 00:08:03,652 ROBBIE: No kidding, wow. JERSEY JON: Woo-hoo! 222 00:08:03,783 --> 00:08:06,193 JIM: I got started in this business really early. 223 00:08:06,252 --> 00:08:07,752 I was like 13 years old 224 00:08:07,821 --> 00:08:10,261 and I was going into thrift shops and church bazaars 225 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:12,560 and find stuff, and you know, you just get smitten. 226 00:08:12,625 --> 00:08:14,155 And all of a sudden it grows on you, 227 00:08:14,227 --> 00:08:16,097 and you know like, you can’t wait for the next event 228 00:08:16,229 --> 00:08:18,259 to happen so you can find out what you have, 229 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:19,831 and you’re just a little kid, you know, and... 230 00:08:19,899 --> 00:08:22,369 And you get more sophisticated as the years go by, 231 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:23,472 and it’s an obsession. 232 00:08:23,536 --> 00:08:24,936 ROBBIE: Look at this thing. (Jim laughs) 233 00:08:25,071 --> 00:08:26,241 ROBBIE: Reed Brothers, out of London, 234 00:08:26,306 --> 00:08:27,766 the Dog Head Bottling Company. 235 00:08:27,907 --> 00:08:29,337 ROBBIE: This thermometer’s really early. 236 00:08:29,409 --> 00:08:31,309 JIM: I mean, oh my gosh, the Dog Head thermometer, 237 00:08:31,378 --> 00:08:32,978 what a history. Great graphics, 238 00:08:33,113 --> 00:08:34,913 wonderful piece of advertising. 239 00:08:34,981 --> 00:08:36,521 It was missing the thermometer, 240 00:08:36,583 --> 00:08:39,423 but very easy thing to replace, but I didn’t get around to it. 241 00:08:39,552 --> 00:08:40,852 ROBBIE: All these writing that’s on it, 242 00:08:40,987 --> 00:08:42,217 it’s all over the place. 243 00:08:42,288 --> 00:08:45,018 ROBBIE: 1937, 1981... 244 00:08:45,158 --> 00:08:46,658 JERSEY JON: So it’s like a bar calendar? 245 00:08:46,793 --> 00:08:48,393 ROBBIE: That’s what it looks like. 1917. 246 00:08:48,461 --> 00:08:50,861 ROBBIE: To find an early advertising wooden thermometer 247 00:08:50,997 --> 00:08:53,067 with all the details that’s on this, 248 00:08:53,199 --> 00:08:55,099 and I’m not talking about just the advertising. 249 00:08:55,235 --> 00:08:56,305 Forget about the advertising, 250 00:08:56,369 --> 00:08:58,069 I’m more enthralled with the freakin’ writing 251 00:08:58,138 --> 00:08:59,308 that’s on this thing. 252 00:08:59,439 --> 00:09:01,069 ROBBIE: What do you think these were, the temperatures? 253 00:09:01,141 --> 00:09:02,141 JIM: That’s why they recorded this. 254 00:09:02,275 --> 00:09:04,135 JIM: It had all these days 255 00:09:04,277 --> 00:09:07,747 when the temperature got really high, or very low. 256 00:09:07,847 --> 00:09:10,517 It just was like a history of all those years, 257 00:09:10,583 --> 00:09:13,323 in weather, told through this little thermometer, 258 00:09:13,386 --> 00:09:15,216 with all these different people writing on it. 259 00:09:15,355 --> 00:09:17,695 ROBBIE: What’s the price on this bad boy, without the therm? 260 00:09:17,824 --> 00:09:18,824 JIM: 275. 261 00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:20,892 It’s one of my favorite pieces in here. 262 00:09:21,027 --> 00:09:22,127 ROBBIE: This thermometer could have been sitting 263 00:09:22,262 --> 00:09:23,902 in England or the United States 264 00:09:24,030 --> 00:09:25,460 There’s a story to be told 265 00:09:25,532 --> 00:09:27,672 about everything that’s on the thermometer. 266 00:09:27,734 --> 00:09:29,244 ROBBIE: 250. JIM: Yeah, yeah. 267 00:09:29,302 --> 00:09:30,672 JERSEY JON: Alright cool, thank you, brother. 268 00:09:30,737 --> 00:09:32,167 JIM: I know, I know you guys like it. 269 00:09:32,305 --> 00:09:33,635 JERSEY JON: Thank you, thank you. 270 00:09:36,476 --> 00:09:39,206 MIKE: Alright, we’re getting there. What’s this? 271 00:09:39,345 --> 00:09:41,075 PAT: Can I interest you in a Gatling gun? 272 00:09:41,181 --> 00:09:42,851 MIKE: Is it real? PAT: Yeah. 273 00:09:42,982 --> 00:09:44,382 MIKE: Oh, wow... 274 00:09:44,451 --> 00:09:46,321 PAT: Pretty cool, huh? MIKE: Really cool! 275 00:09:46,386 --> 00:09:47,846 PAT: This thing is a 50-caliber, 276 00:09:47,987 --> 00:09:49,287 all complete, shoots. 277 00:09:49,422 --> 00:09:50,892 (Gatling gun firing loudly) 278 00:09:54,060 --> 00:09:55,830 MIKE: So it’s an original one. PAT: No. 279 00:09:55,895 --> 00:09:56,895 A German machinist, 280 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:59,230 he made it from scratch after the war. 281 00:09:59,299 --> 00:10:00,929 MIKE: What’s the value of something like that? 282 00:10:01,067 --> 00:10:03,497 PAT: I paid $12,000 for it. MIKE: Yeah. 283 00:10:03,636 --> 00:10:04,566 PAT: Years ago. 284 00:10:04,704 --> 00:10:06,274 MIKE: How many did he build, do you know that? 285 00:10:06,339 --> 00:10:08,009 PAT: Not many. That’s the only one I’ve ever seen. 286 00:10:08,141 --> 00:10:09,181 MIKE: Really. PAT: Yeah. 287 00:10:09,309 --> 00:10:10,379 MIKE: What are you thinking on it? 288 00:10:10,510 --> 00:10:11,510 PAT: Ah... 289 00:10:13,580 --> 00:10:14,950 I’d sell it for 25. 290 00:10:15,014 --> 00:10:16,854 MIKE: Of course I’m interested in the Gatling gun, 291 00:10:16,983 --> 00:10:19,253 what red-blooded American wouldn’t be? 292 00:10:19,385 --> 00:10:20,845 (Gatling gun firing loudly) 293 00:10:30,330 --> 00:10:32,470 PAT: This thing is a 50-caliber, it does shoot. 294 00:10:32,532 --> 00:10:33,672 Where are you going to get one? 295 00:10:33,733 --> 00:10:35,503 MIKE: Of course I’m interested in the Gatling gun, 296 00:10:35,602 --> 00:10:37,772 what red-blooded American wouldn’t be? 297 00:10:37,904 --> 00:10:40,544 But I’m trying to slow my roll a little bit, 298 00:10:40,607 --> 00:10:42,007 not show my excitement. 299 00:10:42,142 --> 00:10:43,712 MIKE: Can I send pictures of it to Richard Ellis? 300 00:10:43,776 --> 00:10:45,846 You know Richard Ellis, right? Rock Island Gun Auction Company? 301 00:10:45,979 --> 00:10:47,949 PAT: From years and years ago, yes, yes, yeah. 302 00:10:48,014 --> 00:10:49,484 MIKE: I figured you guys knew each other. 303 00:10:49,616 --> 00:10:51,276 PAT: Yeah, not a problem. MIKE: The reality of it is, 304 00:10:51,417 --> 00:10:52,617 I’m not going to buy any firearm, 305 00:10:52,752 --> 00:10:54,292 especially a reproduction, 306 00:10:54,420 --> 00:10:57,020 without hearing from the man himself, Richard Ellis. 307 00:10:57,090 --> 00:10:58,720 MIKE: Alright, let me see what Richard says on it. 308 00:10:58,858 --> 00:10:59,828 PAT: Okay. 309 00:11:04,063 --> 00:11:05,903 JIM: I was a very broad-based antique dealer. 310 00:11:05,965 --> 00:11:08,295 ROBBIE: I could tell. JIM: I collected so many different types of stuff. 311 00:11:08,434 --> 00:11:09,744 JERSEY JON: I see there’s squat sodas, man. 312 00:11:09,869 --> 00:11:11,939 JERSEY JON: Not Coca-Cola, I’m talking way before, 313 00:11:12,071 --> 00:11:14,611 these are 1860, 1870 bottles. 314 00:11:14,741 --> 00:11:16,381 These are not branded by a brand, 315 00:11:16,509 --> 00:11:18,179 this is branded by a bottler. 316 00:11:18,244 --> 00:11:19,714 JIM: This is a good one. JERSEY JON: Yeah. 317 00:11:19,779 --> 00:11:21,549 JERSEY JON: They’re just generally called squat sodas, 318 00:11:21,614 --> 00:11:23,224 because the shape of them, they’re squatty, 319 00:11:23,349 --> 00:11:24,349 and they’re soda bottles. 320 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:25,447 ROBBIE: This Savannah right here. 321 00:11:25,585 --> 00:11:26,825 JERSEY JON: Here’s another squat soda. 322 00:11:26,953 --> 00:11:28,293 JERSEY JON: It’s emerald green, iron ground pontil. 323 00:11:28,421 --> 00:11:29,721 JIM: Mm-hmm. JERSEY JON: From 1860. 324 00:11:29,856 --> 00:11:31,656 JIM: Right. JERSEY JON: What are you doing with this thing here? 325 00:11:31,724 --> 00:11:33,664 JIM: I love bottles. JERSEY JON: Yeah, me too. 326 00:11:33,793 --> 00:11:35,703 JIM: Bottles, wow, yep. 327 00:11:35,762 --> 00:11:38,232 Bottles are a sleeper. It’s a huge market 328 00:11:38,298 --> 00:11:39,968 that a lot of people don’t even know about. 329 00:11:40,099 --> 00:11:41,899 They just dug a couple of bottles a few years ago, 330 00:11:41,968 --> 00:11:44,068 it sold for $70,000 each. 331 00:11:44,137 --> 00:11:46,567 JERSEY JON: This is when they would hand blow the bottles into a mold. 332 00:11:46,706 --> 00:11:48,206 JIM: I know, yeah. JERSEY JON: Early on, it starte 333 00:11:48,341 --> 00:11:50,411 with a guy with a blob of glass out of a furnace, 334 00:11:50,543 --> 00:11:52,413 blowing through a big long pontil, 335 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:54,505 it’s a long tube, into a mold. 336 00:11:54,581 --> 00:11:55,851 I mean, he’d blow on the darn thing... 337 00:11:55,982 --> 00:11:57,652 (blows) ...and expanding the glass, 338 00:11:57,784 --> 00:11:59,854 and it’s taking the form of that mold. 339 00:11:59,986 --> 00:12:01,816 JERSEY JON: I used to dig these from privies. 340 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:03,258 That’s where all the good stuff was, man. 341 00:12:03,323 --> 00:12:05,323 JERSEY JON: Privies. Hoo! Alright. 342 00:12:05,458 --> 00:12:08,058 Outside plumbing, this is what I’m talking about. 343 00:12:08,127 --> 00:12:09,557 Privies is where people would go 344 00:12:09,696 --> 00:12:12,156 and they did their business outside, they were called necessaries, 345 00:12:12,298 --> 00:12:14,228 they were called outhouses. Think about when indoor plumbing 346 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:17,300 came in, 1890s or so. Before that, they dug a hole 347 00:12:17,370 --> 00:12:18,570 in the back corner of your lot, 348 00:12:18,705 --> 00:12:20,345 had a little building back there, and you went and did 349 00:12:20,406 --> 00:12:22,136 your business out there. But what you also did, 350 00:12:22,275 --> 00:12:23,585 was you threw the bottle out there, 351 00:12:23,710 --> 00:12:24,780 into the privy when you were done, 352 00:12:24,911 --> 00:12:26,051 ’cause these are deep holes, 353 00:12:26,179 --> 00:12:27,209 they’re like big garbage pits. 354 00:12:27,347 --> 00:12:28,977 JERSEY JON: Grandpa would be out there, 355 00:12:29,048 --> 00:12:30,948 sipping on whiskey, grandma didn’t like it, 356 00:12:31,017 --> 00:12:32,647 but he’d throw that whiskey bottle down the bottom of it 357 00:12:32,785 --> 00:12:35,285 for me to find it 150 years later. 358 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:36,591 JERSEY JON: And we dug them, 359 00:12:36,656 --> 00:12:38,486 they didn’t clean them out. We’ve have a rope down there 360 00:12:38,625 --> 00:12:40,395 throwing 5-gallon buckets down. JIM: And it was dangerous work. 361 00:12:40,460 --> 00:12:41,830 JERSEY JON: Very dangerous work. JIM: Yep. 362 00:12:41,894 --> 00:12:43,864 JERSEY JON: There is a huge community of privy diggers. 363 00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:45,900 I was one of them for a long time. 364 00:12:46,833 --> 00:12:48,633 JERSEY JON: Philadelphia squat soda. 365 00:12:48,701 --> 00:12:50,171 It’s got the blob top on it. JIM: Mm-hmm. 366 00:12:50,303 --> 00:12:52,403 JERSEY JON: No chips or anything like that. JIM: You know your stuff. 367 00:12:52,538 --> 00:12:54,508 JERSEY JON: Is this something you’d sell? JIM: Uh, yeah. 368 00:12:54,574 --> 00:12:56,184 JERSEY JON: What do you value this at? 369 00:12:56,309 --> 00:12:57,809 (sighs) JIM: I’m going to give you a good price. 370 00:12:57,944 --> 00:12:59,414 JERSEY JON: What. JIM: 75 bucks. 371 00:12:59,545 --> 00:13:02,205 JERSEY JON: I think this bottle is probably... 372 00:13:02,348 --> 00:13:04,818 retail $100, right, right now. I can, you know, 373 00:13:04,951 --> 00:13:06,821 that’s what it’s worth retail. 374 00:13:06,953 --> 00:13:09,193 I’m thinking more like $60. 375 00:13:11,257 --> 00:13:12,787 I mean, it’s nice condition. 376 00:13:12,859 --> 00:13:14,459 JIM: 65. JERSEY JON: 65? 377 00:13:14,594 --> 00:13:16,334 JIM: It’s a great bottle. The color... is what makes it. 378 00:13:16,462 --> 00:13:18,302 JERSEY JON: The color, you know what, I’m on it. 379 00:13:18,364 --> 00:13:19,704 JIM: Alright. JERSEY JON: Thank you, buddy. 380 00:13:23,936 --> 00:13:26,736 MIKE: This one’s bigger, I like it already. Urgh! 381 00:13:26,873 --> 00:13:29,213 MIKE: We’re getting deep down into the bowels 382 00:13:29,342 --> 00:13:30,812 of what he truly loves. 383 00:13:30,943 --> 00:13:32,383 MIKE: Whaddya got going on here? There’s a sign. 384 00:13:32,512 --> 00:13:34,052 PAT: Oh, yeah, now that’s a good sign. 385 00:13:34,180 --> 00:13:36,380 MIKE: It must be good, you got it wrapped in plastic. 386 00:13:36,449 --> 00:13:38,779 PAT: I know. MIKE: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. Wow. 387 00:13:38,851 --> 00:13:39,821 That is cool. 388 00:13:39,886 --> 00:13:42,786 Francisco Auto Heater, 389 00:13:42,855 --> 00:13:45,185 summer here, all the year. 390 00:13:45,258 --> 00:13:46,858 MIKE: This is a tin lithograph sign 391 00:13:46,926 --> 00:13:48,586 that’s in incredible condition, 392 00:13:48,661 --> 00:13:51,101 it has very vibrant colors. 393 00:13:51,164 --> 00:13:52,504 The subject matter’s great, 394 00:13:52,565 --> 00:13:54,295 it’s just got everything going for it. 395 00:13:54,367 --> 00:13:55,727 MIKE: Late ’20s, early ’30s. 396 00:13:55,868 --> 00:13:57,738 PAT: That’s top-of-the-line. 397 00:13:57,870 --> 00:13:59,610 And the condition was really cool on that. 398 00:13:59,739 --> 00:14:01,169 PAT: Yeah. MIKE: How long have you had it? 399 00:14:01,307 --> 00:14:02,637 PAT: 40 years. MIKE: Really! 400 00:14:02,775 --> 00:14:05,235 PAT: Maybe more, maybe more. MIKE: That’s why you’re my hero. 401 00:14:05,378 --> 00:14:06,778 (Pat chuckles) MIKE: As a collector, 402 00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:08,906 some of the stuff that I’ve dreamed about finding 403 00:14:08,981 --> 00:14:11,221 never really comes to the surface 404 00:14:11,351 --> 00:14:13,851 because it’s been stashed away in collections 405 00:14:13,986 --> 00:14:15,416 for all of these years. 406 00:14:15,555 --> 00:14:16,725 MIKE: What are you thinking on it? 407 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:18,116 PAT: Bottom line? MIKE: Yeah. 408 00:14:18,257 --> 00:14:19,527 MIKE: Until someone like Pat 409 00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:22,489 makes the decision to finally let go. 410 00:14:22,628 --> 00:14:23,898 PAT: Two grand. They’re... 411 00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:25,100 MIKE: That’s what I was thinking. 412 00:14:25,164 --> 00:14:26,534 PAT: Were you? MIKE: I was thinking two grand. 413 00:14:26,666 --> 00:14:28,296 PAT: Okay, ’cause they sell-- MIKE: Look it, look it. 414 00:14:28,434 --> 00:14:30,144 Look at what’s going on here. PAT: Are we related? 415 00:14:30,203 --> 00:14:31,703 MIKE: Yeah. Might be. (Pat laughs) 416 00:14:31,771 --> 00:14:32,771 MIKE: Alright, two grand. 417 00:14:32,905 --> 00:14:34,065 MIKE: That’s what’s happening here today, 418 00:14:34,140 --> 00:14:35,980 I’m buying things and finding things 419 00:14:36,109 --> 00:14:37,709 that he’s had for decades. 420 00:14:37,777 --> 00:14:41,847 MIKE: Ahh... look at that, where did you get that? 421 00:14:41,981 --> 00:14:43,621 MIKE: The heyday of the American bicycle industr 422 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:45,280 was the turn-of-the-century 423 00:14:45,418 --> 00:14:48,588 in terms of innovation and overall sales. 424 00:14:48,654 --> 00:14:51,194 MIKE: Championship 1894, 425 00:14:51,257 --> 00:14:52,857 1897. 426 00:14:52,925 --> 00:14:55,085 MIKE: There were so many different manufacturers, 427 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:58,028 and bicycle clubs were popping up everywhere, 428 00:14:58,097 --> 00:15:01,767 which led to events, which then led to races. 429 00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:04,071 MIKE: Here’s Peoria. Peoria, Illinois. 430 00:15:04,137 --> 00:15:07,337 PAT: I know, I know. MIKE: If you were a motorcycle racer or a bicycle racer, 431 00:15:07,473 --> 00:15:09,113 you had to prove yourself in Peoria. PAT: I know. 432 00:15:09,175 --> 00:15:10,785 MIKE: They’re all turn-of-the-century. 433 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:13,780 MIKE: These are very elaborate medals 434 00:15:13,846 --> 00:15:16,216 from that time period. Some of them 435 00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:18,582 even have gold in them. 436 00:15:18,651 --> 00:15:20,791 This is an incredible collection. 437 00:15:20,853 --> 00:15:23,463 PAT: I put that together... MIKE: Oh, you put this together. 438 00:15:23,589 --> 00:15:25,019 PAT: ...back in the ’70s. 439 00:15:25,091 --> 00:15:27,591 MIKE: So this is, this isn’t one man’s collection... 440 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:30,560 PAT: There’s a few of them that are, you know, to the same guy. 441 00:15:30,696 --> 00:15:32,726 PAT: I used to go to all the motorcycle meets, 442 00:15:32,865 --> 00:15:33,965 I go to antique shows, 443 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:36,000 and I just put that display together 444 00:15:36,135 --> 00:15:38,395 ’cause it pleased me, and I liked it. 445 00:15:38,538 --> 00:15:39,868 MIKE: So what are you thinking on this? 446 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:42,309 PAT: A lot. MIKE: A lot. 447 00:15:42,375 --> 00:15:43,845 PAT: Oh... 448 00:15:47,146 --> 00:15:48,746 Bottom line. (laughs) 449 00:15:48,815 --> 00:15:50,555 MIKE: Yeah. I always want the bottom line. 450 00:15:50,616 --> 00:15:52,276 PAT: 3,500. MIKE: Ugh... 451 00:15:52,418 --> 00:15:54,948 PAT: That’s a good deal. If you piece those things out, I mean, you know. 452 00:15:55,021 --> 00:15:56,721 MIKE: You know, this is like a lifelong collection. 453 00:15:56,856 --> 00:15:59,856 The fact that he’s putting a price on it is pretty awesome 454 00:15:59,926 --> 00:16:03,326 PAT: 200 apiece is 3,200. 455 00:16:03,463 --> 00:16:04,903 And they’re worth more than that. 456 00:16:05,031 --> 00:16:07,431 And then you got all this... MIKE: Some of them are, some of them aren’t. 457 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:09,670 PAT: These are 100s... MIKE: Like this one, that’s pretty generic. 458 00:16:09,735 --> 00:16:11,595 That’s pretty generic. PAT: Yeah, but... 459 00:16:12,138 --> 00:16:13,668 MIKE: 2,800 bucks. 460 00:16:13,739 --> 00:16:16,009 PAT: Nope, that one, I hate to-- MIKE: Ah... 461 00:16:16,142 --> 00:16:18,242 PAT: ...and I don’t want to be hard-nosed with you... 462 00:16:18,377 --> 00:16:20,047 MIKE: And like that spoon, that’s 50 bucks. 463 00:16:20,179 --> 00:16:22,149 PAT: I know. But there’s two of them, that’s 100. 464 00:16:22,215 --> 00:16:23,625 (laughs) 465 00:16:23,683 --> 00:16:24,883 MIKE: Yeah. PAT: You know what I mean? 466 00:16:25,017 --> 00:16:26,587 If you add that up, there’s more than... 467 00:16:26,652 --> 00:16:28,452 MIKE: 3,000 bucks. 468 00:16:29,655 --> 00:16:30,655 PAT: Oh my God... 469 00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:32,320 MIKE: $3,000. 470 00:16:32,458 --> 00:16:34,488 PAT: Pump me up, just make me feel better. 471 00:16:34,627 --> 00:16:36,897 MIKE: I’m trying. PAT: Add another 600 bucks 472 00:16:36,963 --> 00:16:38,263 and make me feel real great. 473 00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:39,731 MIKE: God, I guess! 474 00:16:41,501 --> 00:16:42,801 PAT: 3,200. 475 00:16:42,935 --> 00:16:44,735 That’s a deal, I mean, you, I guaran-- 476 00:16:44,871 --> 00:16:46,011 MIKE: Ahh... PAT: Okay. 477 00:16:46,138 --> 00:16:47,508 MIKE: Ugh. PAT: Isn’t it cool? 478 00:16:47,573 --> 00:16:49,383 MIKE: It’s amazing! It’s unbelievable! 479 00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:50,809 PAT: I know. MIKE: It’s unbelievable. 480 00:16:50,943 --> 00:16:53,383 MIKE: This is a perfect example that every collector, 481 00:16:53,513 --> 00:16:55,413 no matter how much you love something, 482 00:16:55,548 --> 00:16:58,148 gets to a point where you just, 483 00:16:58,217 --> 00:16:59,417 you got to let it go. 484 00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:01,022 I mean, it’s just time, you know, 485 00:17:01,087 --> 00:17:03,457 and there’s nobody that’s ever going to be able 486 00:17:03,589 --> 00:17:05,819 to tell you that. It’s somethin that has to come within. 487 00:17:05,892 --> 00:17:07,592 (phone dings) MIKE: I got a text from Richard, I think. 488 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:09,330 PAT: Oh, okay. MIKE: Oh, I got a text from him. 489 00:17:09,462 --> 00:17:10,632 PAT: Okay. MIKE: Here we go. 490 00:17:10,696 --> 00:17:13,066 PAT: You say hello for me? MIKE: I haven’t said hello yet, 491 00:17:13,132 --> 00:17:15,272 because... you haven’t seen what he’s written. 492 00:17:15,334 --> 00:17:17,674 PAT: Uh-oh. (Mike & Pat laugh) 493 00:17:17,737 --> 00:17:18,997 PAT: Okay. MIKE: Okay, so he says, 494 00:17:19,138 --> 00:17:20,868 "Very unique vintage copy 495 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:22,710 of an early production Gatling gun, 496 00:17:22,775 --> 00:17:26,545 using obsolete black powder percussion caps, 497 00:17:26,612 --> 00:17:28,152 lead ball steel chambers, 498 00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:31,284 thus making it the same as an antique muzzle-loader." 499 00:17:31,417 --> 00:17:33,217 PAT: Right, right. MIKE: Estimated value, 500 00:17:33,286 --> 00:17:34,946 15 to 20 grand. PAT: Okay. 501 00:17:35,021 --> 00:17:37,461 That’s Richard now, you know, everybody... 502 00:17:37,523 --> 00:17:39,493 MIKE: Yeah. Well, Richard’s on it. 503 00:17:39,625 --> 00:17:40,985 He’s on it, you know what I mean? 504 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:42,960 PAT: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. MIKE: What were you thinking? 505 00:17:43,095 --> 00:17:46,225 PAT: Well, I was thinking 25, but... I’d take... 506 00:17:46,299 --> 00:17:48,369 MIKE: He’s not that far apart. PAT: Yeah. 507 00:17:54,140 --> 00:17:55,540 19-5? 508 00:17:56,742 --> 00:17:59,342 MIKE: I mean... I don’t think there’s any money there for me. 509 00:17:59,412 --> 00:18:00,982 MIKE: Pat and I are kind of at a standstill. 510 00:18:01,047 --> 00:18:02,307 I mean, he’s been very generous, 511 00:18:02,381 --> 00:18:03,621 he’s come off his price some, 512 00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:06,889 but it’s just not enough for me to mess with this thing. 513 00:18:07,019 --> 00:18:08,449 MIKE: There’s not enough room on it. 514 00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:10,588 MIKE: I would love to have something like this go through 515 00:18:10,656 --> 00:18:12,656 my hands, it’s just not in the cards today. 516 00:18:12,725 --> 00:18:16,105 His number, his bottom number is something that I can’t do. 517 00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:23,944 MIKE: How long have you been in the stromboli business? 518 00:18:24,003 --> 00:18:25,703 PAT: For a while. (laughs) 519 00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:27,441 MIKE: This is definitely a first. 520 00:18:27,573 --> 00:18:29,413 Picking a stromboli factory. 521 00:18:29,542 --> 00:18:30,982 MIKE: Hey-hey! 522 00:18:31,043 --> 00:18:32,953 PAT: Kenny was kind enough 523 00:18:33,012 --> 00:18:35,482 to allow me to bring all this stuff over here 524 00:18:35,615 --> 00:18:37,125 to his Nana’s Strombolis. 525 00:18:37,249 --> 00:18:38,449 Kenny: When you have a big place, 526 00:18:38,584 --> 00:18:39,654 all your friends want to store stuff. 527 00:18:39,785 --> 00:18:40,785 MIKE: Has he sold you anything? 528 00:18:40,853 --> 00:18:41,993 Kenny: A few things. MIKE: Has he? 529 00:18:42,054 --> 00:18:43,424 (Mike & Pat laugh) 530 00:18:43,489 --> 00:18:45,259 PAT: Before the COVID hit, 531 00:18:45,324 --> 00:18:46,464 business was pretty good, 532 00:18:46,525 --> 00:18:48,755 there was a pizza business, stromboli business, 533 00:18:48,894 --> 00:18:51,464 clam chowder business, he had all kinds of stuff. 534 00:18:51,530 --> 00:18:53,270 MIKE: Here you go, you got motorcycles. 535 00:18:53,332 --> 00:18:55,902 Hey, look at this! Whoa! This is the Paramount. 536 00:18:55,968 --> 00:18:57,168 PAT: That’s the Paramount. 537 00:18:57,303 --> 00:18:58,443 MIKE: In 1938, 538 00:18:58,571 --> 00:19:01,811 Schwinn introduced the Paramount into their lineup 539 00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:04,441 MIKE: These were all handmade, and their big claim to fame 540 00:19:04,577 --> 00:19:07,047 back then was, this is really super-thin 541 00:19:07,179 --> 00:19:08,349 chromoly tubing. 542 00:19:08,414 --> 00:19:11,424 But the lug works were just to die for. 543 00:19:11,484 --> 00:19:13,294 MIKE: There was a local bicycle shop owner 544 00:19:13,419 --> 00:19:15,019 by the name of Emil Wastyn, 545 00:19:15,087 --> 00:19:18,157 he was an accomplished racer, he was actually on Team Schwinn 546 00:19:18,290 --> 00:19:21,130 and he was also building the Paramount frame sets 547 00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:24,930 for Schwinn in his shop on the west side of Chicago. 548 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,997 PAT: Grab that group of papers over there. 549 00:19:27,133 --> 00:19:28,303 MIKE: This sign was hanging on it? 550 00:19:28,367 --> 00:19:32,367 PAT: Yep. MIKE: "1949 Gene McPherson..." 551 00:19:32,438 --> 00:19:35,008 PAT: That’s the guy. MIKE: "...rode this bike from Santa Monica, California 552 00:19:35,141 --> 00:19:37,341 to New York, 20 days, 553 00:19:37,410 --> 00:19:40,410 7 hours, 29 minutes." Dang! 554 00:19:40,546 --> 00:19:43,016 PAT: And that record held for 10 years. 555 00:19:43,149 --> 00:19:44,449 MIKE: Really? PAT: 10 years. 556 00:19:44,517 --> 00:19:45,847 And he was a Columbus, Ohio, boy. 557 00:19:45,918 --> 00:19:47,018 MIKE: Can we pull this... PAT: Yep. 558 00:19:47,086 --> 00:19:48,616 MIKE: I need to... open this up, 559 00:19:48,688 --> 00:19:50,618 I want to get a good look at this thing. 560 00:19:51,757 --> 00:19:52,957 Roll it out here. 561 00:19:54,493 --> 00:19:56,033 I love the red tires. 562 00:19:56,095 --> 00:19:58,365 From what I can see, it’s got different wheels on it. 563 00:19:58,497 --> 00:19:59,797 I mean, these are steel wheels. 564 00:19:59,932 --> 00:20:01,172 It’s got the down tube shifter, 565 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:02,670 this is an early version of it, 566 00:20:02,735 --> 00:20:05,045 it’s a cable system that goes onto the down tube, 567 00:20:05,171 --> 00:20:07,741 onto the chain stay, around into this derailleur 568 00:20:07,807 --> 00:20:08,937 that pulls a chain. 569 00:20:09,008 --> 00:20:10,978 MIKE: The rear derailleur on this frame, 570 00:20:11,043 --> 00:20:13,353 the way it’s mounted, was obviously added. 571 00:20:13,412 --> 00:20:14,752 This would have been a track bike 572 00:20:14,814 --> 00:20:16,954 that someone converted to a road bike, 573 00:20:17,016 --> 00:20:18,846 but it’s brilliant the way he did it. 574 00:20:18,918 --> 00:20:20,918 MIKE: See how the paint is burned off right here? 575 00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:23,893 PAT: Yeah, yep. MIKE: He braised these little braze-ons right here, 576 00:20:23,956 --> 00:20:27,126 probably because a lot of his stuff was self-contained. 577 00:20:27,259 --> 00:20:29,029 When he was traveling, he probably had a rear rack 578 00:20:29,095 --> 00:20:30,805 on it when he was riding. PAT: Ahh. 579 00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:33,270 MIKE: So imagine riding this in ’49, 580 00:20:33,332 --> 00:20:36,202 and the roads the way they were, I mean, no light system. 581 00:20:36,335 --> 00:20:39,395 MIKE: It was so crude, you know compared to what we ride today. 582 00:20:39,538 --> 00:20:40,938 I mean, I’ve done a lot of road racing, 583 00:20:41,006 --> 00:20:42,506 I’ve done a lot of criteriums, 584 00:20:42,575 --> 00:20:44,285 I’ve ridden a lot in my life. 585 00:20:44,410 --> 00:20:47,750 To think about riding this across America 586 00:20:47,813 --> 00:20:49,083 is truly incredible. 587 00:20:49,215 --> 00:20:50,425 MIKE: Let me take some pictures of it, 588 00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:53,219 because my buddy in Chicago, he has a bicycle shop. 589 00:20:53,285 --> 00:20:55,615 PAT: Okay. MIKE: And he’s more in tune with this kind of stuff. 590 00:20:55,688 --> 00:20:58,118 PAT: Okay. MIKE: Mark Mattei is a bicycle dealer 591 00:20:58,257 --> 00:21:00,827 that’s had a shop in Chicago for like 50 years. 592 00:21:00,893 --> 00:21:04,003 MIKE: And the shop that they made these frames in, 593 00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:05,860 is down the road from him. PAT: Really? 594 00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:08,101 MIKE: The first bicycle shop that I ever worked at, 595 00:21:08,167 --> 00:21:10,967 the guy that owned the store collected antique bicycles. 596 00:21:11,103 --> 00:21:13,043 And I was amazed by them. He had them in a warehouse. 597 00:21:13,172 --> 00:21:15,012 I would go up and I would stare at them. 598 00:21:15,141 --> 00:21:17,141 I just was so curious, you know 599 00:21:17,209 --> 00:21:19,679 It was stuff that I never ever seen before. 600 00:21:19,812 --> 00:21:21,852 And then one day, Mark Mattei comes along, 601 00:21:21,981 --> 00:21:24,251 and he buys all of them. 602 00:21:24,316 --> 00:21:26,886 And I remember loading them with him into his van, 603 00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:29,249 and I was like curious, where are these going? 604 00:21:29,388 --> 00:21:31,058 He’s like, oh, I have a shop in Chicago, 605 00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:33,833 and they were just gone all of a sudden from my life. 606 00:21:33,893 --> 00:21:36,303 And so that’s when I started the quest 607 00:21:36,362 --> 00:21:38,902 to try to find antique bicycles 608 00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:40,374 MIKE: Let me send these to him. 609 00:21:44,770 --> 00:21:48,610 JIM: Check this out. ROBBIE: Jim, what the heck is this? 610 00:21:48,741 --> 00:21:49,981 Jersey, look at this thing! 611 00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:51,442 ROBBIE: This is the Statue of Liberty. 612 00:21:51,577 --> 00:21:53,077 ROBBIE: It says, "Bedloe Island, 613 00:21:53,212 --> 00:21:55,612 Statue of Liberty, 1937." 614 00:21:55,748 --> 00:21:58,048 JIM: Yep. Bedloe Island, which is now called 615 00:21:58,184 --> 00:22:00,094 Liberty Island, where the Statue of Liberty, 616 00:22:00,219 --> 00:22:01,449 Lady Liberty rests. 617 00:22:01,587 --> 00:22:03,657 It’s pretty much a replica of what was there, 618 00:22:03,722 --> 00:22:05,962 because it’s in the center of New York Harbor. 619 00:22:06,091 --> 00:22:07,891 In the early days, there was a fort on there, 620 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,260 it was the entire fort this guy built. 621 00:22:10,329 --> 00:22:11,899 JERSEY JON: But it doesn’t look like this anymore. 622 00:22:11,964 --> 00:22:13,934 JIM: None of these are here. JERSEY JON: All this is gone. 623 00:22:13,999 --> 00:22:15,769 JIM: The only thing they have is the ferry terminal. 624 00:22:15,901 --> 00:22:18,371 JIM: Right after Second World War, they took Fort Wood down. 625 00:22:18,437 --> 00:22:20,507 ROBBIE: It’s one of the most iconic pieces 626 00:22:20,573 --> 00:22:21,973 in American history. 627 00:22:35,287 --> 00:22:36,857 ROBBIE: This is a detailed piece of folk art. 628 00:22:36,989 --> 00:22:38,719 JERSEY JON: It’s amazing this guy constructed this thing, 629 00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:40,688 and made it out of matchsticks and cigar boxes 630 00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:42,329 and all these different elements. 631 00:22:42,461 --> 00:22:43,861 JERSEY JON: This is from a cheese box? 632 00:22:43,929 --> 00:22:45,299 ROBBIE: Oh, yeah. JIM: All found material. 633 00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:47,174 JERSEY JON: All found material. JERSEY JON: A lot of folk art 634 00:22:47,299 --> 00:22:48,329 is made from found material. 635 00:22:48,467 --> 00:22:50,467 JIM: This thing actually lights up. 636 00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:52,196 JERSEY JON: Oh, yeah, Robbie, there’s a plug over here. 637 00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:54,408 JIM: And I do have the plug, but it’s in my office. 638 00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:56,410 ROBBIE: Okay. JERSEY JON: Fantastic. 639 00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:59,482 ROBBIE: I could sit and stare at this thing for hours on end. 640 00:22:59,612 --> 00:23:00,952 ROBBIE: Mike never saw this? JIM: Never. 641 00:23:01,013 --> 00:23:02,753 When you see this thing lit up? ROBBIE: Yeah? 642 00:23:02,815 --> 00:23:04,585 JIM: It makes it like, something special. 643 00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:07,390 ROBBIE: You got me. JIM: So yeah, so I have a number, I have a number. 644 00:23:07,453 --> 00:23:09,523 ROBBIE: Listen, listen, I’m a fish, okay? You already hooked me in. 645 00:23:09,655 --> 00:23:11,495 JIM: Okay. ROBBIE: Jersey’s like, flopping over there too. 646 00:23:11,557 --> 00:23:13,127 JIM: Yeah, okay. ROBBIE: Hooked us in, let’s go. 647 00:23:13,259 --> 00:23:14,889 JIM: Yeah, alright. ROBBIE: What are we thinking? 648 00:23:15,861 --> 00:23:17,601 (sighs) JIM: I spent about 10 hours 649 00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:19,900 working this thing, cleaning it up and whatnot. 650 00:23:19,965 --> 00:23:22,565 JIM: I got out the paintbrushes the Q-tips, 651 00:23:22,701 --> 00:23:26,611 everything imaginable to try to carefully conserve it 652 00:23:26,739 --> 00:23:28,939 At least get it to the point where it was presentable. 653 00:23:29,008 --> 00:23:31,178 JIM: So if I spent 10 hours on it... 654 00:23:31,243 --> 00:23:32,613 ROBBIE: Yeah. JIM: I have to imagine 655 00:23:32,678 --> 00:23:35,778 how many hours the builder spent. 656 00:23:35,848 --> 00:23:37,248 ROBBIE: This thing took years to build, 657 00:23:37,383 --> 00:23:38,853 it did not happen overnight. 658 00:23:39,652 --> 00:23:41,122 ROBBIE: What’s the magic number? 659 00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:44,093 JIM: Um... I had to step up. 660 00:23:44,156 --> 00:23:47,286 I think that the good number for me is like 5,500. 661 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:50,426 (suspenseful music) 662 00:23:50,496 --> 00:23:51,696 ROBBIE: Okay. 663 00:23:51,764 --> 00:23:53,734 JERSEY JON: Hmm. 664 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:55,569 ROBBIE: Doesn’t freak me out at all. 665 00:23:55,701 --> 00:23:58,001 JIM: Yeah, so, I know what I paid for it because, you know. 666 00:23:58,137 --> 00:24:00,507 ROBBIE: Right. Before we go any farther... 667 00:24:00,572 --> 00:24:02,172 JIM: Mm-hmm. ROBBIE: Is it okay 668 00:24:02,308 --> 00:24:04,608 if I send some pictures to a friend of mine? 669 00:24:04,677 --> 00:24:06,777 JIM: Absolutely. ROBBIE: I want to see it lit up. 670 00:24:06,845 --> 00:24:08,475 Can you get the cord? JIM: Yeah, sounds good. 671 00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:10,924 ROBBIE: I got a buddy, Bill, he sets up at all 672 00:24:11,050 --> 00:24:13,720 the national shows. If I can get him on the phone, 673 00:24:13,852 --> 00:24:15,592 he’s going to know everything about this. 674 00:24:15,654 --> 00:24:18,894 He’s been dealing in folk art since the 1950s. 675 00:24:24,263 --> 00:24:25,963 MIKE: Did you get the photos of the Schwinn Paramount? 676 00:24:26,098 --> 00:24:28,728 (Mark on phone): Yeah, you sent me a lot of good pics on that. 677 00:24:28,801 --> 00:24:30,501 MIKE: Whenever I get into something that’s a little bit 678 00:24:30,569 --> 00:24:32,769 out of my realm, I call Mark Mattei, 679 00:24:32,838 --> 00:24:34,038 he’s a Schwinn expert. 680 00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:36,483 MARK: Looks like the bike’s 1949, 681 00:24:36,608 --> 00:24:39,238 and that makes a lot of sense from the time 682 00:24:39,378 --> 00:24:42,008 that Gene made this transcontinental ride... 683 00:24:42,081 --> 00:24:43,521 MIKE: Yeah, isn’t that crazy? 684 00:24:43,649 --> 00:24:44,919 Had you heard of this ride before? 685 00:24:45,050 --> 00:24:47,120 MARK: I hadn’t. I did a little research, 686 00:24:47,252 --> 00:24:49,622 I found a very comprehensive article 687 00:24:49,688 --> 00:24:52,118 with a nice original photograph 688 00:24:52,191 --> 00:24:54,131 in a magazine from 1949. 689 00:24:54,259 --> 00:24:57,499 MIKE: So of course, Mark finds an original article 690 00:24:57,563 --> 00:25:00,773 from a magazine. I mean, that’s the type of collector he is. 691 00:25:00,899 --> 00:25:03,599 MARK: Heading out of eastern California, through Arizona, 692 00:25:03,736 --> 00:25:05,996 he had about 14 flat tires 693 00:25:06,071 --> 00:25:09,881 from thorns that are called goat’s head thorn. 694 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:10,939 MIKE: Yeah, yeah. (laughs) 695 00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:12,380 MARK: 14 times. 696 00:25:12,444 --> 00:25:14,014 And because he’s riding what they call 697 00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:17,049 a slope or a tubular type tire glued on the rim, 698 00:25:17,182 --> 00:25:19,852 each of these flats cost him about an hour’s time, 699 00:25:19,918 --> 00:25:22,648 so he lost, you know, a full day’s worth of riding. 700 00:25:22,721 --> 00:25:24,291 And then the other thing I found, 701 00:25:24,423 --> 00:25:26,493 he was unsupported on this ride 702 00:25:26,558 --> 00:25:28,358 It wasn’t like a SAG wagon driving behind with 703 00:25:28,494 --> 00:25:29,964 spares or nothing. 704 00:25:30,095 --> 00:25:31,495 MIKE: Well, that’s what I was wondering, 705 00:25:31,563 --> 00:25:32,963 because if he was unsupported, 706 00:25:33,032 --> 00:25:35,402 then he had really no lights on the bike. 707 00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:37,774 MARK: It does mention that he had red reflectors 708 00:25:37,836 --> 00:25:39,836 on his pedals... MIKE: Okay. 709 00:25:39,972 --> 00:25:41,742 MARK: ...which was before they became, 710 00:25:41,807 --> 00:25:44,037 you know, federally mandated. MIKE: Yeah, yeah. 711 00:25:44,176 --> 00:25:45,436 MARK: It was definitely the same frame, 712 00:25:45,511 --> 00:25:47,281 the photographs are clear. 713 00:25:47,413 --> 00:25:49,283 It’s got all the earmarks that it’s the bike. 714 00:25:49,415 --> 00:25:51,855 MIKE: Was this made in the shop 715 00:25:51,917 --> 00:25:53,417 that you took me to down the street 716 00:25:53,485 --> 00:25:54,645 from yours in Chicago? 717 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,090 MARK: More likely than not, yeah. 718 00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:57,561 MIKE: What would you value the bike at? 719 00:25:57,689 --> 00:26:00,129 MARK: I think the bike has some real value. 720 00:26:00,192 --> 00:26:02,162 With that history 721 00:26:02,294 --> 00:26:05,064 and this heroic aspect of this sort of ride. 722 00:26:05,130 --> 00:26:07,900 In an auction setting and someone were looking 723 00:26:07,966 --> 00:26:11,166 for a truly historic Paramount, 724 00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:14,843 I would put it at a $10,000 value. 725 00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:17,807 MIKE: Okay, so you’re thinking in the right auction setting, 726 00:26:17,876 --> 00:26:19,576 it could pull 10 grand. 727 00:26:19,645 --> 00:26:21,855 Because if this was just a regular Paramount, 728 00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:24,584 in this condition, without modifications, 729 00:26:24,650 --> 00:26:26,690 it’d be what, 3,000 bucks? 730 00:26:26,752 --> 00:26:28,552 MARK: Yeah, yeah. MIKE: Alright, man, 731 00:26:28,687 --> 00:26:30,217 thank you for your passion, I appreciate you. 732 00:26:30,289 --> 00:26:31,419 MARK: You got it. MIKE: Bye. 733 00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:32,320 MARK: Bye-bye. 734 00:26:32,458 --> 00:26:34,458 MIKE: Wow. Look at that! 735 00:26:34,526 --> 00:26:35,686 PAT: Crazy. 736 00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:37,131 MIKE: Okay, so what are you thinking? 737 00:26:39,364 --> 00:26:40,904 PAT: 7,500 bucks. 738 00:26:42,167 --> 00:26:44,397 You got a 5,000- I-I bet ya... MIKE: Yeah... 739 00:26:44,536 --> 00:26:45,596 PAT: Huh? 740 00:26:46,405 --> 00:26:48,615 MIKE: I’ve been around antique bikes for a long time, 741 00:26:48,674 --> 00:26:50,244 just like you have. PAT: I know. 742 00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:52,075 MIKE: And you know as well as I do, 743 00:26:52,211 --> 00:26:55,681 to throw all the dice in on an auction price is... 744 00:26:55,814 --> 00:26:57,684 MIKE: Auction can go either way 745 00:26:57,816 --> 00:26:59,916 And what Mark is really saying, hey, you know, 746 00:27:00,052 --> 00:27:02,052 I value this at so much money, 747 00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:04,161 and maybe in an auction setting even more. 748 00:27:04,289 --> 00:27:05,719 An auction’s always a gamble. 749 00:27:05,791 --> 00:27:08,761 Let’s not talk about the fantasy of an auction, 750 00:27:08,894 --> 00:27:10,704 let’s talk about what’s happening right now. 751 00:27:10,762 --> 00:27:13,332 MIKE: I think the bike’s worth like probably 7. 752 00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:15,830 PAT: I’ll take 7. 753 00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,238 (Mike & Patlaugh) 754 00:27:17,369 --> 00:27:18,799 MIKE: Yeah. PAT: Huh? 755 00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:22,069 PAT: You know, it’s not just the bicycle. 756 00:27:22,207 --> 00:27:25,037 It’s a great historical racing bicycle 757 00:27:25,177 --> 00:27:26,277 that’s American. 758 00:27:26,411 --> 00:27:28,651 MIKE: I tell you what, I’d do 5,000 bucks on the bike. 759 00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:30,580 PAT: I-I don’t know, that’s... 760 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:32,919 It’s so cool, where are you going to buy one like that? 761 00:27:33,051 --> 00:27:35,451 Where can you get one? (Mike chuckles) 762 00:27:35,521 --> 00:27:37,091 PAT: Give me 6,500 763 00:27:37,222 --> 00:27:39,322 and I guarantee you’ll make money on that. 764 00:27:39,458 --> 00:27:40,688 MIKE: Oh my God. 765 00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:43,699 MIKE: Pat and I have traded back and forth over the years 766 00:27:43,762 --> 00:27:46,232 on a lot of different things. I’ve bought stuff from him, 767 00:27:46,365 --> 00:27:47,375 he’s bought stuff from me. 768 00:27:47,432 --> 00:27:49,302 Okay, so we always do the dance 769 00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:51,438 we always go back and forth, you know. 770 00:27:51,570 --> 00:27:53,040 And we’re both predictable to each other. 771 00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:54,642 PAT: 65’s good, that’s fair. 772 00:27:55,274 --> 00:27:56,474 MIKE: There’s no deal here 773 00:27:56,608 --> 00:27:58,038 unless we both feel good about it. 774 00:27:58,177 --> 00:27:59,507 PAT: Eh... MIKE: I’ll tell you what, 775 00:27:59,645 --> 00:28:01,255 I’d do 6,000 bucks on it. 776 00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:04,420 PAT: If I recall correctly, I think I gave like 2,500 bucks, 777 00:28:04,483 --> 00:28:06,283 40 years ago, 778 00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:08,651 40 or 35, I don’t know how long, 779 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,220 I know it was a lot of money. 780 00:28:10,289 --> 00:28:11,619 PAT: 65. 781 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,060 MIKE: 62. 782 00:28:13,125 --> 00:28:14,365 PAT: 63. 783 00:28:14,493 --> 00:28:16,533 (Mike & Pat laugh) 784 00:28:16,595 --> 00:28:18,765 PAT: Boy, you’re tough. MIKE: You’re tough, you’re tough! 785 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:20,570 PAT: No, no, no! 786 00:28:20,632 --> 00:28:21,572 MIKE: Woo! 787 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:24,600 MIKE: For $6,300, 788 00:28:24,736 --> 00:28:26,436 I own a significant piece 789 00:28:26,572 --> 00:28:29,572 of American bicycle racing history. 790 00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:35,509 ROBBIE: I want to dig into these totes. 791 00:28:35,647 --> 00:28:37,577 JIM: I gave them free reign to kind of poke around 792 00:28:37,649 --> 00:28:40,089 and open boxes, ha, I must say that, you know, 793 00:28:40,152 --> 00:28:41,692 I hadn’t seen a lot of this stuff for like, 794 00:28:41,820 --> 00:28:44,690 oh my God, since the ’90s or whatever. 795 00:28:44,756 --> 00:28:46,056 ROBBIE: This is early. JIM: Yeah. 796 00:28:46,124 --> 00:28:47,794 ROBBIE: Late 1800s early 19. JIM: Oh, yeah, 1880s. 797 00:28:47,926 --> 00:28:49,456 ROBBIE: Every time you open a tote, you don’t know 798 00:28:49,528 --> 00:28:51,958 what you’re going to get into. He doesn’t even know what he’s getting into. 799 00:28:52,097 --> 00:28:53,927 JIM: Ooh, haven’t seen that for a while. 800 00:28:53,999 --> 00:28:55,829 ROBBIE: This is the Red Sox. JIM: It’s a great hat. 801 00:28:55,968 --> 00:28:57,498 ROBBIE: I love the hat. JIM: I also found it 802 00:28:57,569 --> 00:28:58,599 really interesting, the difference between 803 00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:01,007 when Mike was out here in 2018, 804 00:29:01,073 --> 00:29:04,643 and Robbie and Jersey Jon, two different types of buying. 805 00:29:04,776 --> 00:29:06,006 MIKE: And where did you get this, Kentucky? 806 00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:08,048 JIM: Actually, it came right out of Petaluma. 807 00:29:08,113 --> 00:29:10,183 JIM: Mike is fast. When he sees something, 808 00:29:10,249 --> 00:29:11,849 he asks the questions, 809 00:29:11,917 --> 00:29:13,277 if he wants it, he’s going to buy it. 810 00:29:13,418 --> 00:29:14,548 MIKE: We’re doing it. JIM: Okay. 811 00:29:14,686 --> 00:29:16,246 MIKE: I love it. JERSEY JON: Oh, look at that. 812 00:29:16,321 --> 00:29:18,061 JIM: Is that fabulous? JERSEY JON: It’s a harbor scene 813 00:29:18,123 --> 00:29:19,593 with all the sail boats coming in. 814 00:29:19,725 --> 00:29:22,165 JIM: Robbie and particularly Jon, 815 00:29:22,294 --> 00:29:23,734 they kind of fall in love with something, 816 00:29:23,795 --> 00:29:25,395 and they think about it more. 817 00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:27,000 JIM: Look at that color. JERSEY JON: It’s just beautiful. 818 00:29:27,132 --> 00:29:29,372 JIM: They get into, oh my gosh, that’d look good on my shelf, 819 00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:30,974 or... (chuckles) 820 00:29:31,103 --> 00:29:32,373 JERSEY JON: This may not be sold. 821 00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:34,007 JIM: Okay, okay. JERSEY JON: You know what I’m saying? 822 00:29:34,139 --> 00:29:35,869 JIM: Yep. JERSEY JON: This may end up in my home. 823 00:29:36,008 --> 00:29:37,478 JIM: They both know what they’re doing. 824 00:29:37,609 --> 00:29:39,779 ROBBIE: What do you want on the pair? JIM: You sound like Mike. 825 00:29:39,845 --> 00:29:42,055 ROBBIE: Hey, we are cut from the same cloth. JIM: Yeah, I know. 826 00:29:42,114 --> 00:29:43,254 You’re the better-looking one, right? 827 00:29:43,382 --> 00:29:44,452 ROBBIE: I’m the better-looking one. 828 00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:45,483 (laughs) 829 00:29:45,550 --> 00:29:46,320 JIM: But they’re different 830 00:29:46,451 --> 00:29:47,521 in their buying techniques. 831 00:29:47,653 --> 00:29:48,953 JIM: I’d like to get 450 for it. 832 00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:50,417 JERSEY JON: 450, wooph. 833 00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:52,859 3-and-a-quarter. JIM: Cannot do it. 834 00:29:53,925 --> 00:29:55,455 JERSEY JON: Work with me, come on, we’ve been... 835 00:29:55,527 --> 00:29:58,257 JIM: Okay, alright, tell you what, let me think. 836 00:29:58,330 --> 00:29:59,700 JIM: Everybody likes a deal, 837 00:29:59,765 --> 00:30:02,105 so whether it was Mike or Robbie or Jon, 838 00:30:02,167 --> 00:30:04,337 they’re all going to negotiate just like I would. 839 00:30:04,403 --> 00:30:05,743 JIM: 75 bucks. 840 00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:07,244 ROBBIE: For the pair. JIM: Mm-hmm. 841 00:30:07,372 --> 00:30:09,442 JIM: 390. JERSEY JON: 390. 842 00:30:10,742 --> 00:30:11,982 JIM: 385. 843 00:30:12,044 --> 00:30:13,814 ROBBIE: 75 bucks. I’m doing it. JIM: Deal. 844 00:30:13,879 --> 00:30:14,909 ROBBIE: I appreciate it. JIM: Thank you. 845 00:30:15,047 --> 00:30:16,647 ROBBIE: That’s a cool piece. JERSEY JON: 375. 846 00:30:16,715 --> 00:30:17,785 JIM: Okay deal. JERSEY JON: Alright? 847 00:30:17,849 --> 00:30:19,079 JIM: Good. JERSEY JON: Okay, I’ll do it. 848 00:30:19,151 --> 00:30:21,021 JERSEY JON: Thank you so much, I love it, it’s so cool. 849 00:30:21,086 --> 00:30:27,886 JIM: I love it too. JERSEY JON: Thank you, buddy. 850 00:30:27,893 --> 00:30:29,133 PAT: What do you think of that? 851 00:30:29,194 --> 00:30:32,034 MIKE: Oh, Roger! Roger Reiman, man. 852 00:30:32,164 --> 00:30:34,934 MIKE: Roger Reiman was one of the premier motorcycle racer 853 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,400 of his time, and he won the Daytona 200 854 00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:41,040 three times in the 1960s. 855 00:30:41,173 --> 00:30:43,013 PAT: Isn’t that cool? MIKE: Oh, but that was painted in ’65? 856 00:30:43,075 --> 00:30:44,245 MIKE: No way! PAT: Yeah. 857 00:30:44,309 --> 00:30:45,639 PAT: That painting of Roger 858 00:30:45,777 --> 00:30:47,877 when he was National number one motorcycle racer, 859 00:30:48,013 --> 00:30:50,683 he was the best of the best. The painting hung in the house. 860 00:30:50,749 --> 00:30:53,649 PAT: Hank told me that this hung in the house since they got it. 861 00:30:53,719 --> 00:30:54,949 MIKE: "Roger Reiman oil painting 862 00:30:55,087 --> 00:30:57,317 from the estate of Roger Reiman." Oh my gosh. 863 00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:58,886 PAT: And who purchased it? 864 00:30:58,957 --> 00:31:01,557 MIKE: Patrick Regis. PAT: I’ve heard of him. 865 00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:04,033 MIKE: Wood Auction Company. PAT: 1997. 866 00:31:04,162 --> 00:31:05,562 MIKE: I went to the auction excited 867 00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:07,200 about seeing the Evel Knievel stuff. 868 00:31:07,332 --> 00:31:08,972 PAT: Right. MIKE: That’s how I knew his story. 869 00:31:09,034 --> 00:31:11,444 Before I knew what a huge racer he was. 870 00:31:11,570 --> 00:31:13,710 MIKE: There’s a tremendous amount of Evel Knievel history 871 00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:15,109 where I’m from. 872 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,980 Roger Reiman was from Kewanee, Illinois. 873 00:31:18,043 --> 00:31:20,083 He’s the one who worked on Evel’s bikes. 874 00:31:20,145 --> 00:31:21,815 MIKE: I knew he was Evel’s mechanic. PAT: Right. 875 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,250 MIKE: You know, back then, and I knew George Sedlak 876 00:31:24,316 --> 00:31:26,916 in Rock Island, Illinois painted Evel’s stuff. 877 00:31:26,985 --> 00:31:29,245 So I was going there and I was seeing all the Evel pieces, 878 00:31:29,321 --> 00:31:30,661 and they were going for 800 bucks, 879 00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:32,922 but that was a lot of money back then. PAT: I know it was. 880 00:31:32,991 --> 00:31:34,691 MIKE: In 1997, they had an auction 881 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,560 at Reiman’s Harley-Davidson in Kewanee, Illinois, 882 00:31:37,629 --> 00:31:40,999 and I was there. I had $500 in my pocket, 883 00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:42,866 that was all the money I had in the world. 884 00:31:43,001 --> 00:31:45,071 I thought I was going to be abl to buy something, 885 00:31:45,203 --> 00:31:46,543 and I walked away with nothing. 886 00:31:46,638 --> 00:31:47,838 MIKE: What else did you get besides this? 887 00:31:47,973 --> 00:31:49,313 PAT: I’ve got the tank, 888 00:31:49,441 --> 00:31:52,311 the gas tank somewhere... uh... 889 00:31:52,444 --> 00:31:54,354 Hank told me that before it went up for auction, 890 00:31:54,479 --> 00:31:56,849 he says, get that tank ’cause that was on the bike 891 00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:59,215 that Roger rode at Daytona, winning, yeah... 892 00:31:59,284 --> 00:32:01,654 MIKE: Really, when he won the National Championship. 893 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,890 Where the hell’s that at? 894 00:32:02,954 --> 00:32:04,864 PAT: Uh, let me go... 895 00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:06,993 Let me see here. MIKE: Dang, man. 896 00:32:07,125 --> 00:32:08,485 PAT: Let me look. MIKE: Is it over there? 897 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,160 MIKE: There were so many things there that day, 898 00:32:10,295 --> 00:32:12,155 that were unobtainium. 899 00:32:12,297 --> 00:32:14,567 You know, just watching it as a young collector. 900 00:32:14,633 --> 00:32:17,273 But I was a sponge, I was paying attention, you know, 901 00:32:17,402 --> 00:32:18,972 and there were a lot of my mentors there. 902 00:32:19,037 --> 00:32:21,167 Dale Walksler, John Parham. 903 00:32:21,239 --> 00:32:23,239 You know, both of those guys were there buying things. 904 00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:25,785 PAT: I found it. MIKE: Alright, let me see it, let me see it. 905 00:32:25,844 --> 00:32:28,514 PAT: Okay. MIKE: That is the same exact auction 906 00:32:28,647 --> 00:32:31,417 that Pat Regis bought these two pieces from. 907 00:32:31,483 --> 00:32:32,653 MIKE: No way. 908 00:32:32,717 --> 00:32:34,287 This was on that auction that day. 909 00:32:34,352 --> 00:32:36,522 PAT: Yep. MIKE: Okay, so I’ve seen this before. 910 00:32:38,490 --> 00:32:40,390 (phone ringing tone) 911 00:32:40,525 --> 00:32:41,825 ROBBIE: It’s Bill. Alright, Bill, 912 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,560 you got all the photos I sent ya. 913 00:32:43,695 --> 00:32:44,825 (Bill on phone): Yes sir, I did 914 00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:46,563 ROBBIE: Alright, it looks to me like it was made 915 00:32:46,665 --> 00:32:48,805 out of cigar boxes and cheese boxes. 916 00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:51,644 The size on it is like 4-by-2, I’d say. 917 00:32:51,770 --> 00:32:52,540 BILL: Okay. 918 00:32:52,604 --> 00:32:53,644 ROBBIE: There’s no markings on it 919 00:32:53,772 --> 00:32:56,442 except for that plaque I sent you from 1937. 920 00:32:56,575 --> 00:32:58,815 BILL: It’s still considered folk art, outsider art... 921 00:32:58,877 --> 00:33:00,507 JERSEY JON: Right. BILL: ...’cause obviously, the guy wasn’t like, 922 00:33:00,645 --> 00:33:03,305 a trained sculptor or anything like that, 923 00:33:03,448 --> 00:33:05,878 or he had a background. So this is something that, 924 00:33:05,951 --> 00:33:08,321 you know, someone did because they wanted to do it. 925 00:33:08,386 --> 00:33:09,586 JERSEY JON: He was inspired. 926 00:33:09,721 --> 00:33:10,921 BILL: And it’s pretty intricate 927 00:33:11,056 --> 00:33:12,486 The guy must have took a lot of time 928 00:33:12,557 --> 00:33:15,957 putting this together, doing each individual piece. 929 00:33:16,094 --> 00:33:18,034 The subject matter is cool, it’s patriotic. 930 00:33:18,163 --> 00:33:21,203 The size is great because it’s 2-by-4, 931 00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:23,073 it’s not this massive huge thing... 932 00:33:23,201 --> 00:33:24,741 ROBBIE: Yeah. BILL: ...you know, with the fac 933 00:33:24,803 --> 00:33:27,513 that you could see people inside and all the detail 934 00:33:27,639 --> 00:33:29,969 and the little people that were there, 935 00:33:30,041 --> 00:33:32,781 it’s a pretty good interesting piece of work. 936 00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:35,084 The only negative part about it is, 937 00:33:35,146 --> 00:33:36,276 who’s going to display it 938 00:33:36,414 --> 00:33:37,884 and where they’re going to have to display it. 939 00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:39,279 ROBBIE: Yeah. BILL: Someone’s got a great 940 00:33:39,417 --> 00:33:41,247 Americana collection with, you know, 941 00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:44,119 the Statue of Liberty stuff, Uncle Sam and all that, 942 00:33:44,256 --> 00:33:45,556 yeah, it would be a great piece 943 00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:47,490 to have in a collection like that. 944 00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:48,789 ROBBIE: I mean, what’s your overall gut feeling 945 00:33:48,927 --> 00:33:50,757 on this thing, and what’s the retail on it? 946 00:33:50,829 --> 00:33:52,959 BILL: If it was something that could go on a wall, 947 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:55,231 hang on a wall, or if it was a little bit narrower 948 00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:56,967 and it could have fit on a shelf, you know, 949 00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,395 you’re talking probably a lot more money. But... 950 00:33:59,538 --> 00:34:00,568 ROBBIE: Yeah. BILL: ...because of the fact 951 00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:02,309 that it’s just that flat piece there, 952 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,580 it does take up some room. 953 00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:07,883 My gut feeling on a retail, would probably be about $5,000. 954 00:34:08,013 --> 00:34:09,713 ROBBIE: Okay. BILL: Okay? 955 00:34:09,848 --> 00:34:11,718 JIM: Mmm. Mm-hmm. 956 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:14,187 ROBBIE: Jim’s saying, "Mmm." JERSEY JON: Yeah. 957 00:34:14,319 --> 00:34:16,119 ROBBIE: He’s been mmm-ing us all day long, though. 958 00:34:16,187 --> 00:34:17,317 (laughs) ROBBIE: You know. 959 00:34:17,455 --> 00:34:19,085 BILL: Someone, you know, they would appreciate it, 960 00:34:19,157 --> 00:34:21,587 would definitely pay that kind of money for it. 961 00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:23,126 ROBBIE: I appreciate your thoughts on it, 962 00:34:23,194 --> 00:34:24,564 that’s why I just want to get a different 963 00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:26,156 perspective on it, and... BILL: Sure. 964 00:34:26,298 --> 00:34:28,228 ROBBIE: If we end up with it, I’ll give you a call. 965 00:34:28,366 --> 00:34:29,726 BILL: Alright, then. We’ll talk to you later. 966 00:34:29,801 --> 00:34:31,071 JERSEY JON: Thank you. ROBBIE: Thanks, Bill. 967 00:34:31,202 --> 00:34:34,912 JIM: Well, I think when you turn the damn thing on, 968 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,270 it’s a whole different picture. 969 00:34:36,408 --> 00:34:37,778 ROBBIE: Well, I mean, you got the cords. 970 00:34:37,842 --> 00:34:39,642 JIM: I have the cord. JERSEY JON: Go grab the cord. 971 00:34:39,778 --> 00:34:42,948 ROBBIE: Grab the cord. JERSEY JON: Let me and Robbie talk about this for a minute. 972 00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:44,751 ROBBIE: I didn’t think he was off on his number. 973 00:34:44,883 --> 00:34:46,453 JERSEY JON: Yeah, no, I agree. 974 00:34:53,491 --> 00:34:55,231 ROBBIE: I didn’t think he was off on his number. 975 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,130 JERSEY JON: Yeah. ROBBIE: I think we have to get 976 00:34:57,195 --> 00:34:58,955 this piece between 35 and 4. 977 00:34:59,030 --> 00:35:01,430 JERSEY JON: I don’t think he’s going to sell it for any less than 5. 978 00:35:01,566 --> 00:35:04,396 That’s what I feel. ROBBIE: Yeah... I know but-- 979 00:35:04,536 --> 00:35:07,536 JERSEY JON: At the end of the day, are you gonna walk away from this? 980 00:35:07,606 --> 00:35:09,066 ROBBIE: I walk away from a million things. 981 00:35:09,207 --> 00:35:11,037 ROBBIE: Yeah, I’ve walked away from a lot of deals, 982 00:35:11,176 --> 00:35:13,406 ’cause my gut wasn’t feeling it. But today, 983 00:35:13,478 --> 00:35:15,878 my brother is chirping in my ear, saying, 984 00:35:16,014 --> 00:35:18,424 "Get this. Get it. Don’t leave it behind." 985 00:35:19,150 --> 00:35:21,290 JIM: I found it. JERSEY JON: Alright, Come on, let’s plug this in. 986 00:35:21,353 --> 00:35:22,723 JIM: Okay, let’s see what we got here. 987 00:35:24,055 --> 00:35:25,315 JERSEY JON: The crowning jewel. 988 00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:27,127 ROBBIE: That looks like a little Christmas light bulb. 989 00:35:27,258 --> 00:35:28,758 JERSEY JON: Yeah, for sure that’s a Christmas bulb. 990 00:35:28,827 --> 00:35:29,987 ROBBIE: Oh! JERSEY JON: Oh-ho-ho! 991 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:31,498 JIM: Let there be light! JERSEY JON: Oh, wow, 992 00:35:31,563 --> 00:35:32,563 look at the little lights inside! 993 00:35:32,697 --> 00:35:34,167 JIM: Look in there. JERSEY JON: That is cool. 994 00:35:34,232 --> 00:35:36,872 ROBBIE: Look at the pictures in here, inside there. 995 00:35:37,002 --> 00:35:38,402 JERSEY JON: Oh, isn’t that fantastic? 996 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:39,770 (Jim laughs) JERSEY JON: Everybody seated at dinner. 997 00:35:39,838 --> 00:35:42,438 JIM: Yeah. JERSEY JON: Can you dim the lights? 998 00:35:42,574 --> 00:35:44,714 Wow... look at that, Robbie. 999 00:35:44,843 --> 00:35:46,183 It’s like the Christmas village, man... 1000 00:35:46,244 --> 00:35:47,484 JIM: Look at this... JERSEY JON: ...on steroids. 1001 00:35:47,612 --> 00:35:49,212 You can see how much more dramatic it is 1002 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,880 when the thing is lit up at night. There’s little 1003 00:35:50,949 --> 00:35:52,849 light bulbs inside the thing that illuminate 1004 00:35:52,917 --> 00:35:54,717 the glass windows. I mean, there’s really 1005 00:35:54,786 --> 00:35:57,086 glass chips in the windows of all these buildings. 1006 00:35:57,155 --> 00:35:58,455 ROBBIE: Look at the chicken wire on it. 1007 00:35:58,523 --> 00:36:00,193 JERSEY JON: Looks like people are living in the darn thing. 1008 00:36:00,325 --> 00:36:01,695 JERSEY JON: Once this piece is lit up, 1009 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,160 it gives it a different soul. 1010 00:36:03,294 --> 00:36:06,204 It’s got a whole ’nother level of appeal. Now it’s alive. 1011 00:36:06,331 --> 00:36:07,531 JERSEY JON: It’s more than just tramp art, 1012 00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:08,799 you know what I’m saying, Robbie? 1013 00:36:08,867 --> 00:36:10,367 JERSEY JON: It’s a folk art masterpiece. 1014 00:36:10,435 --> 00:36:11,975 JERSEY JON: It’s very creative, for sure. 1015 00:36:12,037 --> 00:36:13,597 I mean, the guy had a real great imagination. 1016 00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:16,368 JERSEY JON: It’s historically correct enough to tell a story 1017 00:36:16,441 --> 00:36:19,241 of how that building looked in that time period. 1018 00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:20,510 ROBBIE: You said 55. 1019 00:36:20,645 --> 00:36:22,545 JIM: Yeah. ROBBIE: I mean I-I... 1020 00:36:23,648 --> 00:36:26,948 Bill’s telling me 5,000 at the right market. 1021 00:36:27,085 --> 00:36:29,095 JERSEY JON: Retail number. ROBBIE: On a retail number. 1022 00:36:30,255 --> 00:36:32,065 (Robbie sighs) 1023 00:36:32,123 --> 00:36:34,193 I think with the work that’s got to go back into it, 1024 00:36:34,325 --> 00:36:35,985 what we got to do to finish it back up, 1025 00:36:36,127 --> 00:36:37,527 which I’d want to finish it, 1026 00:36:37,595 --> 00:36:40,125 it deserves to be finished back up. 1027 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,598 JERSEY JON: It needs more than 10 hours more... 1028 00:36:41,733 --> 00:36:43,033 ROBBIE: Yeah. JIM: Oh, yeah, of course. 1029 00:36:43,168 --> 00:36:44,798 ROBBIE: Do you think you’re going to finish this? 1030 00:36:44,936 --> 00:36:46,996 JIM: Um... ROBBIE: Or do you think you’re just gonna... 1031 00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:49,412 If we don’t buy it, you think it’s just gonna move on down the road? 1032 00:36:49,474 --> 00:36:50,684 JIM: I didn’t even think that you guys, 1033 00:36:50,809 --> 00:36:52,639 I didn’t know you were gonna be interested in this. 1034 00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:54,251 ROBBIE: Oh. JIM: Because I, you know... 1035 00:36:54,312 --> 00:36:56,012 There’s a lot to see. ROBBIE: It takes a special guy. 1036 00:36:56,081 --> 00:36:57,751 JIM: It does. I paid a lot of money for it. 1037 00:36:57,882 --> 00:36:59,422 ROBBIE: I know you did. JIM: In addition to... yeah. 1038 00:36:59,484 --> 00:37:00,954 ROBBIE: Yeah, I know. JIM: What are you thinking? 1039 00:37:01,086 --> 00:37:02,986 ROBBIE: I’m looking at the end of the rainbow too. 1040 00:37:03,121 --> 00:37:04,591 ROBBIE: We still have to make a decision 1041 00:37:04,723 --> 00:37:06,493 to buy this at the right price. 1042 00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:08,628 I don’t want to lose money today. 1043 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,160 ROBBIE: Bill said 5. 1044 00:37:10,295 --> 00:37:11,705 You said 55. 1045 00:37:11,763 --> 00:37:14,503 I want you to feel as comfortable as I do. 1046 00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:16,996 JIM: Mm-hmm. ROBBIE: What’s the magic number? 1047 00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:18,438 It’s your piece. 1048 00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:20,270 JIM: Um... 1049 00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:22,215 I don’t think you’re going to be real happy 1050 00:37:22,273 --> 00:37:23,513 with my number. ROBBIE: Well... 1051 00:37:23,641 --> 00:37:25,511 JIM: I will, I will bend... 1052 00:37:25,643 --> 00:37:27,683 ROBBIE: Yeah. JIM: Okay, um... 1053 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,620 JIM: I have a lot of projects, you know, I have a lot of stuff. 1054 00:37:31,683 --> 00:37:34,453 And as enamored as I am with this piece, 1055 00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:37,989 and I do love it, I already have many hours into it, 1056 00:37:38,123 --> 00:37:40,663 and I know how much many, many, many more hours 1057 00:37:40,725 --> 00:37:42,555 I would have to put in to make it perfect. 1058 00:37:45,697 --> 00:37:47,527 JIM: I’m thinking like 42. 1059 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,670 ROBBIE: Doing this for over 35-plus years, 1060 00:37:51,803 --> 00:37:53,603 this is a piece that you don’t just walk 1061 00:37:53,738 --> 00:37:55,238 into anybody’s place and see. 1062 00:37:55,306 --> 00:37:56,836 You’re not going to find another one. 1063 00:37:56,908 --> 00:37:58,178 ROBBIE: 4 grand, and I’m in. 1064 00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:00,237 I’ll do it. 1065 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,650 And it’ll get done. JIM: It will? 1066 00:38:03,715 --> 00:38:05,885 ROBBIE: Yeah. JERSEY JON: Yeah. I can clean this. 1067 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:07,650 JIM: You can? JERSEY JON: Oh, yeah. 1068 00:38:10,121 --> 00:38:11,991 JIM: I felt like... 1069 00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:14,193 should I hold out, should I not hold out? 1070 00:38:14,325 --> 00:38:15,785 And then I thought, you know what? 1071 00:38:15,927 --> 00:38:17,427 It’s going to be a long time before I get, 1072 00:38:17,562 --> 00:38:19,002 you know like, oh my gosh. 1073 00:38:20,832 --> 00:38:22,272 (chuckles) JIM: You gotta let me know 1074 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,170 when it’s done and I can... JERSEY JON: Thank you, buddy. 1075 00:38:24,235 --> 00:38:26,035 ROBBIE: Hey, this is what we came here for, right here. 1076 00:38:26,171 --> 00:38:27,811 ROBBIE: It’s going home with us today. 1077 00:38:27,939 --> 00:38:30,109 JERSEY JON: Mike’s gonna freak when he sees this thing lit up. 1078 00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:32,381 JIM: They’re going to finish that darn thing, and it’s gonna to be great, 1079 00:38:32,443 --> 00:38:34,883 and I don’t care what kind of money they get for it, 1080 00:38:35,013 --> 00:38:37,723 in the end, because you know, it’s in their hands now. 1081 00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:39,879 I feel blessed that it’s going to a good home. 1082 00:38:39,951 --> 00:38:41,551 And that’s a good thing for me. 1083 00:38:41,686 --> 00:38:43,716 ROBBIE: See, you notice Jersey always picks up the light stuff. 1084 00:38:43,788 --> 00:38:45,658 (Jersey Jon chuckles) ROBBIE: That’s the way it always is. 1085 00:38:45,723 --> 00:38:47,333 JERSEY JON: Imagine the pieces that have gone through 1086 00:38:47,392 --> 00:38:49,432 Jim’s hands in his lifetime. 1087 00:38:49,561 --> 00:38:51,161 JERSEY JON: Thank you so much, man. ROBBIE: Oh God... 1088 00:38:51,229 --> 00:38:53,099 JERSEY JON: I mean, this was fantastic, we had a great time, 1089 00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:55,434 what a great guy, appreciate you, I appreciate your insight. 1090 00:38:55,567 --> 00:38:56,827 ROBBIE: He’s 82 years old, 1091 00:38:56,968 --> 00:38:58,968 he still has the fire in his belly. 1092 00:38:59,037 --> 00:39:01,207 You know, that’s the kind of thing that keeps you young. 1093 00:39:01,272 --> 00:39:02,712 ROBBIE: Just remember, I’m the better-looking one. 1094 00:39:02,841 --> 00:39:04,211 JIM: Yep, I remember that. (group laughing) 1095 00:39:04,275 --> 00:39:06,035 JIM: And don’t forget... ROBBIE: Thank you so much, Jim. 1096 00:39:06,110 --> 00:39:08,080 JIM: Okay guys, thanks so much. JIM: The plan from here 1097 00:39:08,213 --> 00:39:10,683 is to continue working on getting rid of all the stuff 1098 00:39:10,815 --> 00:39:13,445 I have, and I have a lot. Oh my gosh. 1099 00:39:13,518 --> 00:39:14,488 (honks horn) 1100 00:39:14,552 --> 00:39:15,692 JIM: Be well. ROBBIE: Thanks Jim! 1101 00:39:15,753 --> 00:39:16,923 JIM: Thank you! JERSEY JON: Haha! 1102 00:39:20,058 --> 00:39:21,888 MIKE: This was on that auction that day. 1103 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,930 PAT: Yep. MIKE: So I’ve seen this before. 1104 00:39:23,995 --> 00:39:25,405 No way! 1105 00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:28,030 PAT: Daytona. Is that cool? 1106 00:39:28,166 --> 00:39:30,866 MIKE: Yeah. "This is the tank 1107 00:39:31,002 --> 00:39:34,272 from the bike Roger rode while winning the race." 1108 00:39:34,405 --> 00:39:36,165 PAT: At Daytona. MIKE: Wow. 1109 00:39:36,241 --> 00:39:37,681 What are you thinking on this? 1110 00:39:37,809 --> 00:39:39,079 PAT: Again, very historical. 1111 00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:41,610 MIKE: Okay, you got the paperwork, I see. 1112 00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:44,479 MIKE: I was at the auction, I know, I know, I was there. 1113 00:39:44,616 --> 00:39:46,016 MIKE: There’s documentation her 1114 00:39:46,084 --> 00:39:48,054 that proves this is the tank 1115 00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:50,119 that he won the Daytona 200 on, 1116 00:39:50,255 --> 00:39:52,965 and I’m holding it in my hands. This is pretty epic. 1117 00:39:53,091 --> 00:39:55,091 MIKE: So what are you thinking? PAT: Ohh... 1118 00:39:58,229 --> 00:39:59,599 MIKE: Pat is a prolific collector, 1119 00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:01,371 very elevated, man, I mean, 1120 00:40:01,466 --> 00:40:04,536 he understood from a very young age the good stuff’s always good. 1121 00:40:04,602 --> 00:40:07,342 So I’m wondering what price he’s going to hit me with 1122 00:40:07,405 --> 00:40:08,705 on these two pieces. 1123 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,880 MIKE: What’d you pay back then? Just, just for the hell of it, 1124 00:40:11,009 --> 00:40:13,209 how much was this back then? PAT: 1,000, I think, or 1,200. 1125 00:40:13,278 --> 00:40:15,008 MIKE: Was it 1,000? PAT: Yeah. Was a lot of money. 1126 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:18,279 PAT: He got killed in Daytona, Roger got killed in Daytona 1127 00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:22,716 it was just stupid that it happened and... 1128 00:40:22,854 --> 00:40:24,294 in a wreck, and you know, 1129 00:40:24,355 --> 00:40:27,755 I think a handlebar hit him and busted a... 1130 00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:30,962 It was... it was bad, it was bad. 1131 00:40:31,095 --> 00:40:32,955 PAT: I knew that family when I was little. 1132 00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:34,197 MIKE: Really? PAT: Yeah. 1133 00:40:34,332 --> 00:40:36,132 MIKE: How’d you know them? PAT: From going to Kewanee, 1134 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,040 the Lithuanian side of the family, 1135 00:40:38,169 --> 00:40:40,339 my mom, the aunt or cousin... MIKE: Oh, you had roots in Kewanee? 1136 00:40:40,405 --> 00:40:42,375 PAT: Oh, yeah, I went out-- MIKE: I love Kewanee, man. 1137 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,040 PAT: I used to go shooting with Roger and his father. 1138 00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:47,650 MIKE: Really? PAT: Out in the cornfields. 1139 00:40:47,712 --> 00:40:50,252 MIKE: So you knew Roger. PAT: Oh, yeah, we played 1140 00:40:50,315 --> 00:40:51,525 pool together, if I’d be up there. 1141 00:40:51,649 --> 00:40:52,879 MIKE: Get outta here! PAT: I’m telling ya. 1142 00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:54,291 PAT: When I’d be up visiting the family, 1143 00:40:54,352 --> 00:40:56,922 I’d go see him, and you know, 1144 00:40:56,988 --> 00:40:58,488 we’d go out playing, shooting pool. 1145 00:40:58,556 --> 00:41:01,086 There wasn’t much to do in Kewanee at that time, 1146 00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,589 but... we had fun, it was fun. 1147 00:41:03,728 --> 00:41:06,698 MIKE: Kewanee, Illinois, this is 40, it’s 45 minutes 1148 00:41:06,764 --> 00:41:08,104 from my house, in Iowa. 1149 00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:10,069 MIKE: It’s beautiful stuff. And... 1150 00:41:10,201 --> 00:41:12,271 PAT: And it’s historic. And that era, 1151 00:41:12,403 --> 00:41:15,313 that ’60s era, that was wonderful. 1152 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,840 (Mike sighs) MIKE: What are you thinking 1153 00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:18,715 on this and the painting? PAT: Oh, gah... 1154 00:41:18,843 --> 00:41:20,883 I mean, a lot of history. MIKE: I know. 1155 00:41:21,012 --> 00:41:22,112 MIKE: The painting is incredible, 1156 00:41:22,246 --> 00:41:23,906 the fact that it hung in Roger’s home, 1157 00:41:24,048 --> 00:41:26,218 that he thought that much of it, is pretty awesome 1158 00:41:26,284 --> 00:41:28,594 within itself. But to hold this tank 1159 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:31,060 from one of the premier motorcycle racers 1160 00:41:31,122 --> 00:41:33,492 in this country, at that time. 1161 00:41:34,125 --> 00:41:35,735 PAT: Uhh... 1162 00:41:35,793 --> 00:41:36,933 If I sell it to you cheap, 1163 00:41:36,995 --> 00:41:39,105 it’d be disrespectful for this stuff. 1164 00:41:39,163 --> 00:41:40,133 MIKE: Absolutely. 1165 00:41:40,198 --> 00:41:41,328 PAT: 5 grand. 1166 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,870 For both of them. 1167 00:41:46,804 --> 00:41:49,444 That’s, that’s... I know. MIKE: That’s fair. 1168 00:41:49,507 --> 00:41:51,207 PAT: It really is. MIKE: For both of us. 1169 00:41:51,275 --> 00:41:53,575 PAT: I know, I know. MIKE: For both of us. It’s fair. 1170 00:41:53,644 --> 00:41:56,454 MIKE: To be here in this moment with him, 1171 00:41:56,514 --> 00:42:00,354 he’s been more than generous with his knowledge and his time 1172 00:42:00,485 --> 00:42:01,655 PAT: It’s been a pleasure. 1173 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,319 MIKE: Always an epic day with you. 1174 00:42:03,454 --> 00:42:04,594 PAT: I know, I know. 1175 00:42:04,722 --> 00:42:07,662 MIKE: And I’m the guy he called It’s crazy cool. 1176 00:42:07,725 --> 00:42:09,785 MIKE: Thanks for always including me in your world. 1177 00:42:09,927 --> 00:42:11,197 (honks horn) PAT: You take care! 1178 00:42:11,329 --> 00:42:12,359 MIKE: See you down the road, buddy! 1179 00:42:12,430 --> 00:42:14,030 PAT: Bye-bye. You take care. (honks horn)