- Don't tell me [bleep] science isn't real,
'cause that's my daughter's life.
- Your attorneys have advised you to just not talk about it.
- I don't understand the basis of these questions.
- Now, because you guys did this podcast together,
there were, you know, people saying like that you guys might
have something going on.
Care to clear any of that up?
- I thought my mom was just gonna let me lay there and die.
- That was so scary.
- Okay, I don't wanna be taped right now.
[crying] I'm done. - You okay?
- ♪
- Shut up. It's [bleep] liar.
- Let's take a minute. - Go home.
- Take this [bleep] mic off. I'm done.
I'm done, [bleep], I'm done.
- ♪
- [audience applause]
- Welcome to the "Teen Mom 2 Reunion."
I'm Dr. Drew here with Nessa.
- Hi.
- And we are currently here with two of our original "TM2"
moms, Leah and Kail.
- We'll of course be speaking with the other three moms as
well, but before we get into what happened this season,
we wanted to start with just the two of you,
because this is a big anniversary.
It was ten years ago that you sat together for your very first
"Teen Mom 2 Reunion."
- KAIL: What? - NESSA: Whoa.
- [laughing] - A throwback picture.
Okay, well, how do you feel about the photo? Kail?
- I mean--
- Go ahead, Kail, what do you think?
- I don't know what to say about it. I mean, memories.
- Memories, okay.
How 'bout for you, Leah?
- I think we've gone a lot and changed a lot.
- We look like babies, for sure.
- Yeah.
- What is the biggest difference, Kail,
for you being a part of the show now as compared to back then?
- I feel like it was--there was definitely just like a bond.
No matter how many feuds we got into,
there was definitely a bond between the four of us as,
you know, the original girls for "Teen Mom 2."
It's a unique opportunity that nobody else really shares it
with us, aside from
the four of us. - DR. DREW: Right.
- What comes to mind when you hear "favorite moment"?
- LEAH: I was--I mean, we have a tattoo that we'll have
for the rest of our lives. - KAIL: Yeah.
- NESSA: Wait, and it happened after the reunion or before--
- During the reunion. - During the reunion.
- NESSA: Really? - DR. DREW: The heart?
- LEAH: Yeah.
- Oh yeah, I mean, I don't know,
I have--I definitely have had some of my lowest moments
on the reunion.
Um, but I look back-- - DR. DREW: Like what?
- Um, just like storming off stage, um...
I don't know, those--those moments were hard.
- How 'bout for you, Leah?
- I think going through addiction and trying to still
film, and always talking about Ali's diagnosis was difficult.
I don't know if there was--I can't remember.
Someone please remind me.
Can you remember an explosive moment?
- I remember your mom screaming passwords from the back.
- We're not gonna talk about that.
- Monkey, because-- - I wouldn't see my kids.
- DR. DREW: What are you speaking--
- If I would have done-- - MOM: Monkey!
- Thank you. - Huh?
- Monkey. - It's alright, I don't know.
- Monkey? - Yeah.
- It's stuff she doesn't wanna go into.
- I'm gonna start calling monkey.
- That's so embarrassing.
- It's also been a whole since we've seen you guys
in a relationship.
Are you guys dating? - No.
- DR. DREW: Are you?
- No, not dating. - Not dating?
- Do your kids say anything about dating at all?
- KAIL: Hmm-mm. - Mine do.
Like, "When are you gonna find a boyfriend?"
- [laughs]
- I'm like, "Why do I need a boyfriend?"
- So, Kail, do you have someone in mind for Leah?
- Um, I picture him a little bit older, um, handsome,
hardworking, may or may not have kids.
Like I feel like I could pick someone out for you.
- How? Because I probably couldn't you.
I feel like a terrible friend right now.
- I would like a part-time boyfriend,
somebody--or girlfriend--who likes lives at their apartment
or house half the week and then maybe with me half the week.
But I need my space.
- If you could tell your younger self any advice,
what would it be at this point?
- KAIL: Oh my gosh.
- I definitely would've told myself to live my life, not
focus so much on a relationship or the need to feel love.
- But, Leah, you said something profound,
which is the need to be loved, which I think is the
reason...conscience or otherwise,
people that know how to use contraceptives,
still get pregnant. - Mm-hmm.
- DR. DREW: They're looking to be loved.
- LEAH: Yeah, that's why I was even sexually active
around that time.
- It's a big deal. - Because I was looking
for a way out of my home life.
- KAIL: Wow. - And unfortunately--not
that--never intentionally got pregnant,
but it was just that--that physical connection,
and Corey and Jeremy both kind of had it going on,
like their whole family.
- I will say that that's something that Leah and I both
have in common, is that we've always attached ourselves to men
who have a really strong family support system.
- So it gave you a family when you didn't have one?
- KAIL: Yes. - LEAH: Right. There it is.
- Well, we wanna give you something to mark
this special moment.
Larry, bring it on out. Come on.
- Oh, Larry. - Oh, Larry.
- Look at you. - Hello.
Congratulations both of you. - [laughs]
- LARRY: It's been our honor to be on this journey
with both of you.
- NESSA: Can you tell us what it says on the charms?
- KAIL: MTV and "Teen Mom 2," ten years.
So cute.
- LEAH: Thank you guys. - Thank you.
- NESSA: Of course.
We said goodbye to Chelsea last season,
and now we say hello to our newest "TM2" mom,
so joining us on video chat, let's hear it from Ashley.
- KAIL: She looks so cute.
- Hi.
- How does it feel for you, Ashley,
knowing that you were a fan of the show,
and now you are part of the show?
- It's crazy.
It's crazy.
I've been watching "Teen Mom" since they had their kids.
And to now be a part of it, it's just very...weird.
- And, Ashley, you and Jade had some conflict back
in the "Young and Pregnant" days.
Now both of you are on this series.
Have you guys reconciled?
- I have not spoken to Jade, but you know what?
It's so old, we don't live close.
I really don't care anymore.
I mean, I don't know anything else about that girl,
so I might as well let it go and move forward.
- Ashley, so I don't know if you were listening earlier,
but Kail and Leah and the original moms part of "TM2,"
they went and got matching tattoos.
So the next time, if you're out here, and Kail, she's like,
"Hey, let's all of us go get matching tattoos,"
are you open to it?
- Don't threaten me with a good time--
- [laughs]
- As long as it's not here and here, I'm down.
- [laughs] - Not on the forehead.
No shade. - [laughs]
- I'm wondering if you guys have any words of advice
for her as she navigates being part of this?
- Yeah, I mean, as she knows from being on "Young and
Pregnant," I'm sure there were--she knows,
there will always be trolls.
But I mean, at the end of the day, like we're here for you.
And I said that whenever I DMed you or texted you, I said,
you know, "You have Leah and I's support, so if you
ever need anything, just call us, text us, anything."
- LEAH: We know. - Because we know
better than anyone. [laughs]
These trolls are crazy.
But, um, the support is there, too.
- Well, we've got a lot to get into.
Coming up, Kail will update us on her four boys,
her forever home, and her custody battle with Chris.
Stay with us, you don't wanna miss any of this.
We'll be right back.
- [audience applause]
- [indistinct yelling]
- You're spinning here. - --bottles in the club.
- I don't pop no bottles with no [bleep] in the club.
I don't go to the club.
- I like you, Britt.
- Huh? Yeah, you cool, but you know, just don't [bleep] up.
- Polycystic ovarian disease,
you have it. - Mm-hmm.
- Did you feel uncomfortable talking about the weight issue
associated with PCOS? - Yes.
It was like adding salt to the wound.
- ♪
- [audience applause]
- Welcome back to the "Teen Mom 2 Reunion."
We're now joined by Kail.
- [audience applause]
- Now, Kail's doing an amazing job raising her four sons.
And she's been actively trying to improve her coparenting
relationships, but with three different custody arrangements,
no matter how hard she tries, there always seems to be some
sort of problem.
Here's a look back at her struggles and what she's done
to overcome them.
- ♪
- Ah, yeah!
Oh, that looks so sweet.
- So how does this new phone thing work with Isaac?
'Cause we never, you know, like discussed this beforehand.
- This is a privilege. - Mm-hmm.
- This is not a necessity. - Mm-hmm.
- I scheduled with my GYN.
He found on my right ovary, I had multiple cysts.
Polycystic ovarian syndrome.
It can be very, very difficult for people who have PCOS
to lose weight.
The comments that I get about my weight gain on social media and
being on the show and stuff like that has been the hardest part
for me, because I didn't expect it,
and it's not something I have been able to control.
I'm try--I've tried.
- You think it's gonna be a problem that
you're further away? - No, I mean--
- With Chris?
- Lux and Creed see him every other weekend.
Get the [bleep] out of my car.
Get out of my car.
- You've been wanting me here, too bad, [bleep] y'all.
[bleep]. - Get out.
- KAIL: Okay, well, try me.
There's no pointing going to trial if we can work it out
outside of court.
- Custody hearing today.
- Mm-hmm.
- How did everything go?
- Um, the judge made a ruling, and I just don't wanna talk
about it.
I don't wanna--it just is what it is.
- [audience applause]
- Whoo.
- How are you feeling having seeing that, Kail?
- Um...I feel like that was probably the most accurate
portrayal of my life in a long time.
- Mm-hmm, what was it about that that you felt like, "Yes,
accurate, accurate, accurate"?
- Literally, I could never get along with all of my kids' dads
at the same time.
There's always somebody who's not happy,
whether it be me or one of the dads or one of the kids.
So, I mean, I think we do the best we can for what I have.
But it's--it's tough.
- NESSA: Right. - Yeah.
- So you're in therapy now? - KAIL: Yeah, 18 months.
- DR. DREW: Good for you.
You mentioned that it helps you take accountability for
parenting mistakes--coparenting mistakes, particularly.
Can you tell us more about that?
- Um, you know, I think the thing about therapy is that you
have to go when you're ready and when you're willing
to do the work.
And part of that is not just telling your side,
it's telling the whole side of--telling everything about
something that you did.
Most of the time, I don't wanna hear I'm wrong.
I wanna hear someone that is hearing my side of it.
- Mm-hmm.
- But in therapy, I'm--she gives me perspective.
So even if she agrees with me, she's telling me, you know,
Joe or Javi or Chris's perspective on something so she
can--I can kind of see the whole picture and get a different
perspective on, you know, whatever that decision may be.
- Okay.
- I know this is a very sensitive topic for you,
but how--but how are things with Chris as far as the custody?
And things that you're willing to share?
- We, obviously, went to court, as it was showed on here.
And we do court-ordered therapy, but we have not started yet.
- Do you feel that things are on the right track?
- I see progress. - Yeah.
- And so I can only hope that, you know,
if and when we go to therapy, that it will just...be better.
- NESSA: Yeah. Do you anticipate any changes
to the custody arrangement in the future?
- Uh, the court order is for two solid years,
and we can't modify, because the judge ruled,
and the judge made the decisions.
So that cannot be changed.
- What would an ideal arrangement look like for each
of your children and the fathers?
- I can't say that I think that Lux and Creed would benefit from
a 50-50 situation, um, only because of, you know,
the distance between us and, um, just a lot of things.
But I think where it is right now is pretty ideal.
I always have them--all four of them together.
- NESSA: Makes sense. - Yeah.
- Um, polycystic ovarian disease,
or PCOS--polycystic ovarian syndrome, as we now call it.
Um, you have it. - Mm-hmm.
- Did you feel uncomfortable talking about the weight issue
associated with PCOS? - Yes. Yeah.
'Cause I know, um, I obviously see it in myself every day when
I look in the mirror.
I notice the weight gain, so when other people are pointing
it out to me, I already know, so it just is like adding
salt to the wound.
The weight gain is the hardest part for me.
- Which it often is, right, for women that have that
part of the syndrome. - KAIL: Yeah.
- And the fertility issues is the other thing
people worry about.
And sound like you were doing some egg harvesting,
is that what you're doing?
- Yeah, but I want--I was doing that first.
- DR. DREW: Yeah. - And that's kind of...
I'm glad I started doing it, because then I found out
I had PCOS.
- Well, congratulations for taking control
of your fertility. - Thank you.
- I always think that's a really good thing when people do that.
But how many kids do you want?
- I'm not even saying I would have more,
I just want the possibility, you know,
if five years from now I do meet the love of my life,
and we wanna have kids, I have healthy eggs.
- Thank you again for talking about these issues.
It's just--it's just important, and it takes a bit of courage,
as you're finding, to be open and honest.
We appreciate it.
And when we return, we will have Kail back with her podcast guest
from this season, Devoin.
We'd love to follow up on that conversation.
Stick around for that.
- [audience applause]
- Oh, my friendship with Devoin has never been to have that type
of animosity to someone else.
- Has this made the relationship
with Briana more difficult?
- ♪
- [audience applause]
- And we are back with the "Teen Mom 2 Reunion."
On the couch now are Kail and Devoin.
- [audience cheering]
- And, Kail, a few months back, you had Devoin on your podcast.
- Yeah.
- DR. DREW: Why'd you reach out to him?
What was that like?
- Um, I didn't really love what I was seeing on the show,
and I wanted to give him a chance to kind of tell his story
and his side of it.
- And, Devoin, why did you wanna be a guest with Kail?
- I'm always down for new opportunity, you know?
And it was definitely cool.
It benefited me a lot. - Yeah.
- You know, I went from 25,000 followers to 100K followers
after her podcast, literally.
- DR. DREW: Wow.
- NESSA: That's very nice.
- I can do nothing but thank her.
Like that was a great move from her end.
- NESSA: Yeah, paying it forward.
It's always important, for sure.
And, Kail, you made it very clear that the podcast was not
gonna be a bash session.
That was very important to you. - Mm-hmm.
- NESSA: Why was that important?
- Doing a podcast with Devoin was never a shot
at anyone on the show.
It wasn't a shot to--at Briana or anything like that.
I just--I know how much a little bit of exposure can take
somebody and take a business,
and I wanted to give him a chance.
And I feel like it really--it worked, so--
- NESSA: Was there any part of you--you were like, "Oh,
it's nice revenge" or anything like that?
- No, I never--you know, my friendship with Devoin has never
been, you know, to have that type of animosity
with someone else.
There's no ill intentions or anything.
- Has this made the relationship with Briana
more difficult? - KAIL: No.
- DR. DREW: She didn't react to it or anything?
- No.
- Me and her was cool before Briana dated Javier or Javi.
We were cool before that.
- Kail, as far as what you learned from Devoin,
any similarities between your life and what Devoin and Briana
are going through?
- I understand just from a filming aspect,
like...Briana wants her story
to be her story and, um,
you don't know what the other side is gonna say.
You don't know what they're gonna do.
And so it kind of feels like--at least for me,
like I don't always want to film Joe or Javi or Chris's side,
you know.
That's, you know, when I don't wanna take accountability,
I don't wanna film their side, I don't want anything outside of
me filmed for my segment.
So like in that aspect, I understand.
I also understand just like trying to coparent,
and we're all gonna [bleep] up, right?
Like us as moms and the fathers are gonna [bleep] up,
so I can understand from that too.
- And, Devoin, any similarities between Kail and Briana?
- Yeah, I mean, obviously, they're mothers, you know,
they put the kids first.
They both do that, you know what I mean?
That's just a natural instinct, you know, they're good at that.
They're--both good mothers, I salute them for that.
- Do you think they could find a common ground in there
somewhere and-- - DEVOIN: Absolutely.
- --put behind all the nonsense?
- I really think they could and should.
- DR. DREW: Yeah. - There's no point it.
There's no point in it. - KAIL: There's no--
- Everyone's moved on so far past what was the issue.
- I don't think that there like--Briana and I are not
actively arguing and stuff.
I just--I don't have any desire to like have a friendship.
Like I think that we can just like put it behind us and let it
be behind us and not have any conversation.
It's like water under the bridge,
but also keep the boundary that I have,
where I don't wanna communicate with you.
But I also don't hate you.
- DR. DREW: We've told you-- - Her situation's different.
- --we wanna be able to get everyone out on the couch.
- Yeah, I just don't want to--I don't want that,
but I don't hate her.
- DR. DREW: Okay.
Let me ask it different. - Boundaries.
- Boundaries, yes, but if you're able to professionally
show up and all sit on a couch calmly together and--
- I just don't know that I wanna do that.
- Now because you guys did this podcast together, there were,
you know, people assuming and saying like that you guys might
have something going on.
Care to clear any of that up?
- There's nothing going on between Devoin and I.
It is strictly platonic.
We are adults and we're friends, and I love his girlfriend.
His girlfriend is so sweet, so, yeah, no, we are just friends.
- NESSA: Good. That's great.
This is all such great energy, Dr. Drew.
- It really is. It really is.
- After the break, Briana and Jade will sit down to talk about
Jade's traumatic experience getting cosmetic surgery
in Miami.
You don't wanna miss that. Don't go away.
- [audience cheering]
- I think she was there to help me and to be there for me.
- Don't cry. - I'm sorry.
- We'll always be here for you, whatever you need.
I'm here to help you.
You call me, I'm there.
- [audience applause]
- Welcome back to the "Teen Mom 2 Reunion."
Now with us, we have Briana and Jade.
- [audience applause]
- When Jade decided to have some cosmetic surgery this
season, she turned to Briana for advice.
And later, Briana joined Jade in Miami to keep an eye on her
post-op recovery.
Well, it's a good thing she was there,
because the aftermath of Jade's surgery was truly a nightmare
that bonded them in a way we never expected.
Take a look.
- ♪
- I'm getting a Brazilian butt lift and 360 lipo.
- Are they putting you to sleep?
- I would assume.
- They--[laughing]-- I would double-check.
Poor girl has no idea--
- What do you mean?
- --what she's about to get into.
How did the surgery go?
- Um, as far as I know, it went well.
But she's like--she's in pain pain.
- BRIANA: No medicine?
- No medicine. - BRIANA: Why?
- 'Cause her mom didn't get it yet.
- [gasps]
- She should have gone while she was in surgery,
got the medicine, and had it already.
But she didn't.
- JADE: [indistinct crying and mumbling]
--my own mother was
just out shopping and do whatever she wants to do.
I just can't [bleep] believe this.
- BRIANA: This is so [bleep] up, Jade, I'm so sorry.
Where's the medicine?
Where are the prescriptions?
If you can try to come back and somebody else will find
the medicine, okay?
She's trying, and she feels very bad that she's not
here with you, okay?
- JADE: [crying]
- SEAN: Do you want me to call the ambulance?
- JADE: Yeah, I'm in excruciating pain.
- SEAN: Okay, okay.
- FEMALE OPERATOR: 911, what's your emergency?
- [siren wails]
- SEAN: Your mom's here.
- BRIANA: Jade wants to go.
So it's a very stressful situation here,
so she just wants to get away from everybody.
So I told her to come to the house.
So how are we doing this?
- JADE: Ooh, okay, okay, [bleep].
- WOMAN: It's okay, it's okay.
- BRIANA: Um, I'm covering your ass.
- JADE: Thank you, I appreciate you guys so much.
You don't even understand.
These people never go out of their way to like--to do [bleep]
just for me ever.
- Oh, I wanna hug you.
[laughs]
- I wanna start with you, Jade.
How do you feel after watching that?
- I don't know, I feel like it's like a big rollercoaster.
If I wouldn't have had her through all this stuff,
I don't even know what would have happened,
'cause it was definitely...a crazy experience.
- BRIANA: It was bad.
Like when I walked into, I didn't think I was gonna walk
into that. - Yeah.
- Like I really thought she was gonna die,
because the way she was-- - And I was so blue.
I was so blue. - BRIANA: Yeah, she was
positioned--like she wasn't getting oxygen into her lungs.
So when I looked at her, like her face, her lips,
her hands are blue.
I'm like, "No, no, no, what's going on here?"
- She actually gave me my first shower--her and Shirley did.
Like so it was like--what, two days after my surgery,
they took off--she took off all my garments and all my stuff and
got me into the shower.
And you know those little--like where the scabs are,
when you hit the water, they come out.
And they told me to like manually push to drain myself
out, and Sean like walked in.
And he was like, "Oh my God."
Like he had to walk out.
He al--he like started crying, because I was draining.
It looked like I was just bleeding
to death in the shower. - Yes.
- And I was so lightheaded.
I told her at the end, I was like, "I'm passing out now,
"so we gotta get me out of here.
I'm gonna pass out." - BRIANA: Yeah.
Honestly, she went about--what, six to eight hours without any
pain medication.
That is insane.
- What was that point where you decided to call the paramedics?
- It was getting dark outside.
I said, "Ah, oh [bleep] no. I'm calling."
- JADE: Like I remember just crying.
And I was telling her, like--I was like,
"No one's gonna come for me, like they're not coming."
- Like she was sobbing like, "I can't believe nobody's gonna
come for me."
I'm like, "No, I promise, somebody's coming for you."
Like I wish I could just pick her up and just like take her
somewhere so she doesn't have to feel pain anymore.
- How amazing was it that Briana showed up?
- It was so, so amazing.
It was like--I was like, "You're like a little angel that came
and like saved me," because I, for real--I don't even know what
would have happened if she wouldn't have came.
Like it was so painful.
- I think if you would have stayed in that same position
that you were in, you would have
lost a lot of oxygen. - Yeah.
I think I would have died. - --probably would have
thought that you were sleeping, and who knows what could have--
- [bleep] I think I would have died.
- So, Briana, for you, in your experience,
being around Jade and her family.
- Yeah. - What did you think?
What were your thoughts?
Her relationship with Sean and her relationship
with her parents?
- It was very chaotic, and I wish it was different for her
during this time.
I wish she had peace and quiet.
I wish it was mellow.
I wish it was calm.
I wish there was nobody there but just one person to get full
focus on, so Sean was trying to take care of you,
but also Chloe.
So like he was trying to do all these different things.
That's why I was like, "I think it's best if you guys
go home and Jade comes with me and let us take care of her."
- Does this situation make you two grow stronger
together as friends? - Oh yeah, for sure.
- Or-- - BRIANA: No, for sure.
- I think she was there to like pick me up when I was really
down, and I feel like her and Shirley did like so much stuff,
like to help me and to be there for me.
- BRIANA: Don't cry. - I'm sorry.
- We'll always be here for you, whatever you need.
You call me, I'm there.
- NESSA: What--what's making you feel
emotional right now, Jade?
- Like laying in that bed for so long.
I was like praying to God, like, "God, please, like help me,
like help me through this."
And I was like--I felt like her and Shirley were like my answer,
like you know?
- DR. DREW: I bet.
Alright, we will continue Jade's story in part two.
Briana will stick around, and we will also speak with Roxanne,
Devoin, and Brittany.
And we'll see Briana's new boyfriend, Javi,
and her family together for the very first time.
That is coming up when we return.
- [audience cheering]
- Did fixing the outside fix the inside?
- No, I need [bleep] therapy for the inside.
- [audience cheering]
- Welcome back to the "Teen Mom 2 Reunion."
We are now here with Briana.
- [audience applause]
- So let's start out by talking about what an amazing job you're
doing juggling Stella, Nova,
and all the things you do in your life. How do you do it?
- I just do it, I don't know.
- It's just your life.
- Yeah. - But how are you doing?
Are you fully recovered from your latest plastic surgery?
- Yeah, I'm fine. - NESSA: Okay.
What was the latest one that you worked on or had done?
- I just--um, I removed my old implant and put new ones in.
- Yeah, 'cause I was like I wonder what it was that you saw
that you were just like, "Mm, I wanna work on this"?
- I feel like everybody wants to work on something.
Everybody looks at themselves in the mirror and they're like,
"Mm, what if I can do this?
Or what if I did that, would this change?"
So it's just something that I think, you know,
some people battle with on the inside.
- Did fixing the outside fix the inside?
- No, I need [bleep] therapy for the inside.
- NESSA: Talk to me about the name Javi.
Tell us about him.
- BRIANA: He is so kind and genuine,
and he cares about me and the girls.
Um, I think this is the first time that I ever met somebody
that has met every like "criteria"
that I needed for me, and this is him.
- Has he asked you to marry him?
- BRIANA: No.
- Has that been discussed?
- Mm.
I don't know, maybe.
- [laughs]
- I feel like this is something that I wanted
for a really long time.
And like it just came out of nowhere.
- I think you're scared of it a little bit, too.
- Of course.
Who wouldn't be scared, especially me?
'Cause I'm so quick to like shut people off and turn the blind
eye and act like they never existed in my life.
- Speaking of that, have you had any contact with Luis lately?
- You know, I feel bad for Stella because...
the relationship that she has with her father is not there.
- And yet she's super attached to Devoin.
- Oh my God. - Yeah.
Thank God.
- BRIANA: So attached, like Devoin recently took both the
girls by himself.
And she had no problems.
And I cried in my room, oh my gosh.
God, this is hard. - DR. DREW: Yeah.
- I just--I want Stella to have what--what I didn't really have,
but with her father.
- DR. DREW: Right.
- And I thought about this since day one with Luis.
And he just--he just can't get it together,
and it's very frustrating.
But then I see like Devoin loving Stella,
and Javi loving Stella.
So it's like, "Does she even need Luis?"
- Does this pain come from a place where you're just
like...you feel like maybe you've let her down or anything?
- BRIANA: I definitely let her down.
- How did you let her down? Come on.
- I let her down because I didn't pick the right--
- Yeah, but that's--you wouldn't have Stella
without him. - Yeah.
- But you've actually not let her down,
because you have two other men you have brought in who have
made up the difference.
And be careful.
You're feeling her pain, but that's your pain.
- That's what my mom said.
My mom says that all the time to me.
- Well, she's right, so keep listening.
Roxanne's always right.
- BRIANA: Yeah, she is.
- ALL: [laughs]
- Are you able to get any financial support from Devoin or
any updates on that?
- What I don't like about Devoin is,
he could spend $500 on a pair of jeans,
which he posted on Instagram yesterday but...
you're not supporting me for Nova.
And that's our issue.
- He will say he's doing the best he can, right?
- Yes, yes.
- I think he'll step up, myself.
[laughs] - BRIANA: I hope so.
- Well, coming up, we're gonna bring Devoin out here.
Should be interesting, so don't go away.
- [audience applause]
- Thank you for loving Stella.
She loves you so much.
- If you wanted to put me on child support,
we--I would stay the same person I am.
I would treat you the same way,
I would still be there for Stella.
- Let me [bleep] talk.
Shut the [bleep] up. - --you don't have to speak--
- Shut the [bleep] up. - Get respectful.
- Go home. - Devoin, hold on.
- Take this [bleep] mic off.
- [audience cheering]
- Welcome back. We're still here with Briana.
Now let's welcome Nova's dad, Devoin.
- Hi. Feels good to be back.
- This was a season of major change in Briana's life.
Devoin has stepped up and become a responsible father to Nova,
and she began a new romance, and she underwent plastic surgery,
and she considered taking drastic action
again Stella's father.
Here's a look back at Briana's season.
- ♪
- Mama, I love you. - BRIANA: I love you, too.
- ♪
- [laughing]
- Me and Briana are not talking at all.
I haven't seen Nova in a few weeks.
Briana says I was always late.
She's a good mom, she's just a bad person.
- Devoin forgot Nova at gymnastics.
She's all sad and hysterical, and she's just like,
"My dad forgot about me."
- Yeah, I actually did [bleep] up this time, you know?
Being late is not good.
- This is how you guys met, right?
- He did my tattoo, and then we just started
hanging out and [bleep].
He's just uncomfortable.
He doesn't want anything to do with...this type of stuff.
Not everybody can have a camera in their face and be okay with
it, you know? - WOMAN: Right.
- [phone rings]
- BRIANA: Luis texted me.
[bleep].
He said, "Can I see Stella Sunday?"
- Stella?
- Where are we going today?
- With who?
- With Luis!
- So what happened?
- Luis didn't show up.
I feel so guilty bringing her into this world,
and her not being able to experience, you know,
both parents.
I feel like I failed her.
- [sobbing]
- Stella, we talked about this, remember?
I told you your daddy was picking you up today.
- [crying]
- [coughs]
- DR. DREW: That's hard. - Yeah.
- What are ya thinking? - Ah, that's so tough.
Uh, my poor little Stella.
Thank you. - You're welcome.
- Thank you-- - No problem, thank you.
- --for loving Stella. - Thanks for letting me.
- She loves you so much.
And... - DEVOIN: Thank you.
- As long as you're okay with it, I'm okay with it.
- Great, that's literally normal to me.
NO problem at all, as long as it's okay with you and Luis,
I don't mind. - [bleep] Luis. [laughs]
- Hey, I'm not gonna say that--
- BRIANA: [bleep] Luis.
- Briana, seeing you say thank you to Devoin--
- DR. DREW: It's a big deal.
- --it felt--like I felt that from the heart,
you know what I mean?
- Stella is gonna mend my relationship with Devoin.
I think she's gonna be the person to bring me
and Devoin closer.
I think that's why Stella's here.
- Her bond with me's pretty good, I'm not gonna lie like.
Honestly, I feel like if she came in this room right now,
she'd probably run to me first like--
- BRIANA: Yeah, she would.
- What are you doing for work these days?
- I just started working again.
Bonefish Grille, serving.
- Are you okay if Briana asks for financial support
at this moment? - Absolutely.
She said 250 a month.
So far, I've spent 1,800.
How many months in are we?
I mean, like since--let's just keep looking forward,
things are different now.
- But now that you're able to do it, you should do it,
because the last time you helped financially as far as a bill was
a while ago.
It was a few months ago.
- If you wanted to put me on child support,
we--I would stay the same person I am,
I would treat you the same way.
I would still be there for Stella.
If you want to do that, you can do that.
I don't mind that. Do that.
If that's what you feel like, you wanna get a number set,
do that, please.
- Every time you speak about financial situation,
and you get so offensive.
- Because it took a long--I took the [bleep] end of the
stick for a long [bleep] time.
You've been rocking Louboutin and [bleep].
- Because I can. I can. - Because of this--because
of what? Not because of your nine-to-five.
- BRIANA: It doesn't matter. - Yes, it [bleep] does matter.
You have been able to provide for so long because of this.
I can do it now.
I can go drop a bag on Nova now.
I can go take her-- - Let me [bleep] talk.
- But serious-- - Shut the [bleep] up.
- You don't have to speak-- - Shut the [bleep] up.
- Get respectful, please. - No, I cannot.
I can't, because you're not even [bleep] listening.
- Oh my God, this is a reunion for us to talk.
You've talked a lot, you've said a lot more words.
Is there a word count here? She said a lot more words than me.
- Shut up. Shut up. - Let me get my words out.
I'm getting paid now, thank you. Let's get it.
- Every time we speak about money,
he gets so flustered about it.
Listen, I've been taking care of Nova before MTV.
Let's remember, "Teen Mom 3" canceled for a while,
and I had my nine-to-five job.
Who the [bleep] was taking care of her then?
Not [bleep] MTV. Me.
Me! Me!
And the thing is, I could buy these shoes, 'cause guess what?
My [bleep] kids' bills are [bleep] paid in advance
ahead of time.
I'm never late on my bills.
You can buy a $500 pair of [bleep] jeans,
but you can't do anything else for Nova besides buying her
a [bleep] pair of sneakers? - DEVOIN: Do you not--
- You don't do what you need to do as a father.
You do bare minimum. Bare minimum.
- Y'all let me know when I can talk.
- Bare minimum. You're not a real man.
You're not a real man.
- [indistinct yelling]
- That's okay, that's okay. - Guys, you're spinning here.
- --pop bottles in the club.
- I don't pop no bottles in no [bleep] club.
I don't go to the club.
I go places with my girlfriend that I live with.
- Hold on. - Shut up.
You're such a [bleep] liar. Liar!
- NESSA: Let's take a minute, let's take a minute. Everyone--
- Take this [bleep] mic off me, man.
I'm out of here, man. Nessa, it was a pleasure.
Drew, it was a pleasure.
Take this [bleep] mic off me, man. I'm done.
- NESSA: We don't want you to go.
- I'm done, take this [bleep] off me. Done, I'm done.
Congrat--[bleep]--tions, I'm done.
Take this mic off me, bro, I'm done talking.
Get the mic, I 'm about to go to my girl,
enjoy New York City, man. Get off me.
Get the--damn [unintelligible].
- It was good to start, right? - DEVOIN: [bleep] about you?
- We can't. We can't talk.
- It doesn't have to be that way.
- BRIANA: It doesn't have to be that way.
And me being the kind person that I am,
I don't put him on child support.
- Well, maybe you should.
Maybe--he just told you to do it.
Maybe that would create the structure.
- You're right. - DR. DREW: And we have now him
on tape asking you do that.
- Yeah, no, when I spoke to the lawyer,
I also spoke with Devoin about the whole situation.
And I spoke to the lawyer, and the lawyer had said the best
thing to do is both establish paternity,
put him on child support. - Yeah.
- And take it through the courts.
Which is the right thing to do.
And I totally agree with it.
But at the same time, it's like who do we have to go there?
- --sick of arguing with her. I don't wanna argue with her.
- But then just sometimes, you just gotta shut the [bleep] up.
- Don't let your past invade into this present situation.
Regardless of the math, you are very lucky to have him.
- BRIANA: Of course, I love him, right?
I love him, and I love the fact that he loves the girls.
- I can't talk. Talking to a brick wall.
I can't do that.
- Me and him just clash, we can't get over it,
this is why we're here.
- This is not about him, this is about the two of you.
- Of course, I know that.
I know that. - Alright, hang on.
We're gonna also speak to Roxanne and Brittany.
And we'll see Briana's new boyfriend, Javi.
- BRIANA: I just don't want no [bleep] problems.
- DR. DREW: We'll meet him. - Because Javi's here.
- DR. DREW: And her family, altogether
for the very first time.
That is coming up when we return, so don't go away.
- Sorry, I ruined your whole prompt.
I didn't even realize it.
- [audience applause]
- And welcome back.
We've been speaking with Briana and Devoin.
And now we have Briana's sister, Brittany, and on video chat,
their mom, Roxanne.
How have you been, Roxanne?
- I'm good, how are you guys?
- We are good.
Did you see the whole transaction
that was going on here?
- Uh, don't even talk about it.
- DR. DREW: Okay, we will, don't worry.
And, Brittany, how you doing?
- I'm good.
- Good, do you feel bad for Devoin?
He's done so much good?
- I don't feel bad, I just--'cause I don't feel bad
for anybody.
I do feel him at times.
I just wish the delivery was different on the stage.
Because he's not like that at home.
- DR. DREW: That's what I hear.
- Roxanne, so you've always had a great perspective,
especially when it comes to coparenting
between Briana and Devoin.
How do you feel Devoin's been doing since the last reunion?
- I love Devoin, and I know that he still has room
for growth.
I'm sure he'll get there, we just gotta work with him
and be patient.
- Brittany, what are your thoughts?
- I think that, solely based on the fact that he does like care
about Stella and like what he does--like if he gets Nova a
toy, he'll try and get Stella something.
Or he just started taking them out together and stuff.
Like that shows that he's not a bad person,
he has a really good heart.
My problem with him is that sometimes he doesn't really
like--I understand my sister can come off kind of rude sometimes
and [bleep] like that, like I live with her, like whatever.
But I don't think she really genuinely means to come off rude
or cold or whatever.
And then she comes off that way, he gets offensive.
It starts a big, like you just saw.
- We just saw it. - It starts that.
Maybe not as intense as it just was, but it starts that.
And I just feel like the communication,
once they get that [bleep] down, I think everything else will
come easy.
- It's easy to say that, Brittany.
It's a complicated process.
- Oh, I know, I've been starting with therapy,
so I know it's complicated but-- - You go to therapy?
- Yes. - Good for you.
- Like because like--
- Maybe just get your sister to go a little bit too.
- I did, I started.
- We did, what you thought this pandemic did?
We saw our lives flash by, said no,
we're not going down like that.
- Briana, you didn't mention this.
And here I am thinking like, "Oh whoa, self-reflecting,
it was this pandemic, and it's just"--
- Well, it was the pandemic that send everybody to therapy.
- Yeah, that's good though.
This is growth, this is important, for sure.
- So, Brittany, have you met Javi?
- Uh, yeah.
- What do you think?
- I mean, I don't really know him, but he's cool.
- Roxanne, what do you think?
- Let's see, I hope it works out.
Briana seems happy, and that's all that matters.
- This is the first time we're meeting Briana's new boyfriend
on this stage.
So let's bring him out.
Everyone, welcome Javi.
- [audience applause]
- Hey. - Hi, Javi.
What made you wanna come and join Briana here?
- I mean, I do it for her, it's part of her life,
so like--it's not--this isn't really me.
Like this is something that--
- You don't seek it?
- Yeah, I'm just here for her.
- NESSA: Yeah, that's important.
How's that make you feel, Briana?
- Important.
- NESSA: Yeah.
- Brittany, you like this energy, you like what you heard,
that he came to make sure he supported Briana?
- If she likes it, I love it. - NESSA: Yeah.
- You know? - [laughing]
- It is just what it is.
Whatever makes her happy.
- I like you, Britt. - Huh?
Yeah, you're cool, but you know, just don't [bleep] up.
- [laughs]
- I guess that's the, "Welcome to the family" talk right there.
Are you looking at this as a long term commitment?
How are you feeling so far?
- Um, taking it day by day.
- [laughs]
- Why are you laughing, Briana?
- He's such a liar, that's why.
- Why? Why? Tell us the truth then.
- That's my baby, man, like I wanna be with her.
- [laughs]
- I've never seen Briana like that. Giddy.
- Giddy. That was the word--that was the word, I was like wow--
- I'm sweating. - Yeah, she is.
I am too, though. - DR. DREW: [laughs]
- Well, we've gotten to ask Javi some questions,
but Brittany has some questions of her own.
Take it away, Brittany. It's all you.
- What is your favorite thing about my sister?
- Everything.
- No, be specific. What's the favorite thing?
- You said first thing that comes to mind.
- Okay, about her physical appearance?
- Her smile. - About her personality?
- Her laugh.
- About her parenting?
- She's a phenomenal mom.
- About her family?
- Uh, you guys are great.
- It was--you're supposed to compliment me, but okay.
What's your least favorite thing about her, though?
- Um, I don't think I have one.
- You don't think she's a little messy?
- Messy?
- She don't leave her stuff all over
when she visits you? - Nah.
- I actually clean up his whole house. [laughs]
- I feel like she-- - So you're messy, okay. Okay.
Are you a mama's boy? Or are you close to your mom?
- Of course, I love my mom.
- Okay, you kiss the floor she walks on?
- Absolutely.
- Okay, we [bleep] love that.
When you cook for your kids, what's their favorite thing that
you cook for them?
- Uh, DoorDash.
- Oh. So you know what?
Maybe y'all do belong together.
Um, uh, your feelings for my sister, you love her?
- I love her.
- Punto. I spared you.
- You passed the initial Brittany screening.
- [audience applause]
- [laughing]
- We'll have to end part one right here.
In part two, we'll welcome Jade's parents,
Christy and Corey.
Hopefully, Jade and Sean will also join us.
You'll have to tune in to see what happens.
- We'll also get a health update from Leah.
And the newest moms of "Young and Pregnant" will be joining us
for an exclusive preview of the upcoming season.
- For Nessa and myself, have a great night,
and we'll see you next time for part two
of the "Teen Mom 2 Reunion."
- [audience applause]
- ♪
- DR. DREW: Next time on the "Teen Mom 2 Reunion"--
- You don't like that.
You can kiss the new girls, baby.
- I was subpoenaed to testify in a case against a doctor.
- I thought my mom was just gonna let me lay there and die.
- I'm so regretting this.
Why would anybody would think that I would leave her
in that kind of way? - 'Cause you did.