1 00:00:17,626 --> 00:00:19,889 Previously on "The Walking Dead"... 2 00:00:19,932 --> 00:00:21,804 Carol: We just took in two new communities. 3 00:00:21,847 --> 00:00:24,067 We have no crops, no back stock. 4 00:00:24,111 --> 00:00:27,157 The last big horde scared all the animals away. 5 00:00:27,201 --> 00:00:28,767 We can find new territory. 6 00:00:28,811 --> 00:00:32,336 We don't have time. We need food. Lots of it. Now. 7 00:00:32,380 --> 00:00:34,425 Maggie: The people that attacked us -- 8 00:00:34,469 --> 00:00:36,166 we only knew two things about them. 9 00:00:38,473 --> 00:00:39,735 They come at night. 10 00:00:41,780 --> 00:00:43,869 And by the time you see them, you're already dead. 11 00:00:58,188 --> 00:01:00,060 Run! 12 00:01:24,432 --> 00:01:27,130 [Whistles] Dog![Dog barks] 13 00:01:35,443 --> 00:01:37,227 Elijah! 14 00:01:37,271 --> 00:01:39,664 No! 15 00:03:22,811 --> 00:03:25,248 See you in 30. 16 00:03:25,292 --> 00:03:28,512 Kel. Kel, Kel. 17 00:03:31,428 --> 00:03:33,865 I missed you this morning. 18 00:03:33,909 --> 00:03:36,259 Thought we had a shift together. 19 00:03:36,303 --> 00:03:39,219 [Sighs] Sorry. Something came up. 20 00:03:39,262 --> 00:03:42,396 You still want to do those shifts with me? 21 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:44,224 It's okay if you don't. 22 00:03:44,267 --> 00:03:48,053 Next one. I promise. 23 00:03:48,097 --> 00:03:50,099 Kel. 24 00:03:50,142 --> 00:03:52,232 Do you... 25 00:03:52,275 --> 00:03:55,104 Do you wanna talk about it? 26 00:03:56,627 --> 00:03:58,673 Nothing to talk about. 27 00:04:10,293 --> 00:04:13,601 Man: Come on. Everyone -- pull! 28 00:04:36,101 --> 00:04:38,974 Hey. Going somewhere? 29 00:04:39,017 --> 00:04:41,281 We need to get our horses back. 30 00:04:41,324 --> 00:04:42,630 You see the east wall when you came in? 31 00:04:42,673 --> 00:04:44,849 I did. 32 00:04:44,893 --> 00:04:46,111 You were marked down to help today. 33 00:04:46,155 --> 00:04:48,462 Looks like you've got a crew already. 34 00:04:48,505 --> 00:04:49,854 Well, you were gone all morning. 35 00:04:49,898 --> 00:04:51,639 We started without you. 36 00:04:51,682 --> 00:04:54,076 I'm sorry, Aaron. I can't today. 37 00:04:54,119 --> 00:04:56,078 [Sighs] Because you're tracking horses 38 00:04:56,121 --> 00:04:58,080 that you have almost no hope of catching? 39 00:04:58,123 --> 00:05:01,083 You know, Daryl and I went down that road before. 40 00:05:01,126 --> 00:05:04,695 Didn't work out so well for Buttons. 41 00:05:04,739 --> 00:05:06,393 We're almost out of MREs, 42 00:05:06,436 --> 00:05:08,438 and the fields are a joke -- 43 00:05:08,482 --> 00:05:10,440 And our walls are about to fail. 44 00:05:10,484 --> 00:05:11,876 Well, if we don't get those horses, 45 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,314 we're not gonna be able to move anything heavier 46 00:05:14,357 --> 00:05:16,490 than a sack of grain. 47 00:05:16,533 --> 00:05:18,318 Or go out far enough to scavenge anything, 48 00:05:18,361 --> 00:05:21,886 and we're all gonna starve to death. 49 00:05:21,930 --> 00:05:23,845 So I'll be back in a few hours. 50 00:05:34,377 --> 00:05:36,161 I'm hungry, too. 51 00:05:38,729 --> 00:05:41,079 Do you ever worry about your mom when she goes away? 52 00:05:41,123 --> 00:05:42,907 I'm used to it. 53 00:05:42,951 --> 00:05:45,867 Grown-ups are always running off doing things. 54 00:05:45,910 --> 00:05:47,912 "Promise I'll see you soon. 55 00:05:47,956 --> 00:05:50,350 Love you."[Chuckles] 56 00:05:53,004 --> 00:05:54,789 They used to say that kind of stuff 57 00:05:54,832 --> 00:05:56,486 in the olden times, right? 58 00:05:56,530 --> 00:05:59,968 They can't promise it now, but they say it anyways. 59 00:06:00,011 --> 00:06:03,145 They don't want us to think they're never coming back. 60 00:06:03,188 --> 00:06:05,495 It's supposed to make us feel better. 61 00:06:05,539 --> 00:06:07,671 They say it to make themselvesfeel better. 62 00:06:09,804 --> 00:06:11,545 Still... 63 00:06:11,588 --> 00:06:13,634 my mom always comes back. 64 00:06:13,677 --> 00:06:16,376 Yeah. 65 00:06:21,555 --> 00:06:24,949 Dang it. 66 00:10:32,022 --> 00:10:35,373 Lord, you are my refuge and my strength... 67 00:10:35,417 --> 00:10:37,811 My refuge and my strength... 68 00:10:37,854 --> 00:10:39,813 My refuge... 69 00:12:06,203 --> 00:12:08,205 [Gasps] Alden. 70 00:12:08,249 --> 00:12:10,033 Maggie. 71 00:13:13,270 --> 00:13:14,706 Jesus. 72 00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:17,927 Let me see? 73 00:13:17,971 --> 00:13:20,147 Sure thing, boss. 74 00:13:24,978 --> 00:13:26,588 That good, huh? 75 00:13:26,631 --> 00:13:28,982 You think you can walk? 76 00:13:29,025 --> 00:13:30,722 Not gonna know until we try.Whoa, whoa. 77 00:13:30,766 --> 00:13:33,421 [Groans]You're not seriously thinking that we keep going. 78 00:13:33,464 --> 00:13:34,944 They'll be back. We gotta keep moving. 79 00:13:34,988 --> 00:13:37,817 Alright, wait. What exactly is the plan here? 80 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:39,340 The plan doesn't change. 81 00:13:39,383 --> 00:13:40,776 We need that food. 82 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:42,865 We get to the radio tower, find the supply house, 83 00:13:42,909 --> 00:13:44,345 and wait for the others. 84 00:13:44,388 --> 00:13:47,174 And what if the others are dead? 85 00:13:47,217 --> 00:13:49,785 Listen, I know theatrics. 86 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:51,134 Those people, they just told us 87 00:13:51,178 --> 00:13:53,006 exactly how insane they are. 88 00:13:53,049 --> 00:13:54,616 We can't be on a road. 89 00:13:54,659 --> 00:13:57,184 We can't be on anyroad that they could use. 90 00:13:57,227 --> 00:13:58,576 It's a shit plan. 91 00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:00,187 Then you tell me a better one 92 00:14:00,230 --> 00:14:02,145 that doesn't starve us all. 93 00:14:03,843 --> 00:14:05,409 Right. 94 00:14:05,453 --> 00:14:06,976 I am on your side, Maggie. 95 00:14:07,020 --> 00:14:09,326 Then help me with him. 96 00:14:13,940 --> 00:14:15,855 2, 3, go. 97 00:14:47,669 --> 00:14:49,149 No. 98 00:14:49,192 --> 00:14:52,239 Not unless you want Coco tripping the light fantastic. 99 00:14:52,282 --> 00:14:55,068 Yeah, but just for like a week, tops, right? 100 00:14:57,113 --> 00:14:58,810 You good?Yeah. 101 00:14:58,854 --> 00:15:01,857 Yeah, it's just that Gabriel's on a mission, 102 00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:03,903 and I'm over being stuck in the house. 103 00:15:05,730 --> 00:15:07,950 Why? What're you guys doing? 104 00:15:23,487 --> 00:15:25,968 Wait. 105 00:15:46,467 --> 00:15:49,470 Damn it![Horse neighs] 106 00:15:49,513 --> 00:15:50,950 Fourth time's the charm. 107 00:15:50,993 --> 00:15:52,952 Let's get a move on. 108 00:16:00,524 --> 00:16:02,135 You okay? 109 00:16:02,178 --> 00:16:04,572 I'll be better when this is done. 110 00:16:09,011 --> 00:16:11,709 I've been having dreams about Abraham recently. 111 00:16:11,753 --> 00:16:13,146 Yeah? 112 00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:15,539 Yeah, he's trying to tell me something. 113 00:16:15,583 --> 00:16:18,368 I know it's something important, something I'm supposed to do. 114 00:16:18,412 --> 00:16:20,544 But I can't hear him most of the time, 115 00:16:20,588 --> 00:16:22,764 and just when I'm about to... 116 00:16:22,807 --> 00:16:26,681 he, um -- he gets shot in the head. 117 00:16:26,724 --> 00:16:28,988 Well, that's dark. 118 00:16:29,031 --> 00:16:31,555 Yeah, I don't know why I just told you that. 119 00:16:31,599 --> 00:16:33,514 No, I get it. 120 00:16:33,557 --> 00:16:35,255 It used to freak me out, 121 00:16:35,298 --> 00:16:38,345 but now I think it's a message for us, for Alexandria. 122 00:16:38,388 --> 00:16:41,000 What do you think he's trying to say? 123 00:16:41,043 --> 00:16:42,566 I don't know. 124 00:16:42,610 --> 00:16:47,789 You know, if a horse lets you touch its ear, 125 00:16:47,832 --> 00:16:50,357 it means it trusts you. 126 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,142 I read that once. 127 00:16:53,186 --> 00:16:56,580 You think we'll get them back? 128 00:16:56,624 --> 00:16:59,322 Horses are wild creatures. 129 00:16:59,366 --> 00:17:01,194 You never know. 130 00:17:07,417 --> 00:17:10,725 It's 2 miles. It's further than I thought. 131 00:17:12,814 --> 00:17:15,034 We better get moving. 132 00:17:15,077 --> 00:17:16,774 Holding your hand's not gonna help me walk any faster. 133 00:17:16,818 --> 00:17:18,385 Yeah? Does the thought of one of those things 134 00:17:18,428 --> 00:17:20,039 ripping your face off do it for you? 135 00:17:20,082 --> 00:17:22,084 If you're scared, why don't you 136 00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:24,391 make yourself useful and go kill 'em? 137 00:17:28,264 --> 00:17:31,615 Really? So we're just gonna go towards the screaming? 138 00:17:31,659 --> 00:17:33,878 Cool. 139 00:17:45,673 --> 00:17:47,805 Agatha! 140 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,074 Maggie. It's Duncan. 141 00:18:12,265 --> 00:18:14,528 Duncan. 142 00:18:28,542 --> 00:18:30,848 Duncan. 143 00:18:33,503 --> 00:18:36,898 I'm so sorry. 144 00:18:36,941 --> 00:18:40,293 For all of it. 145 00:18:40,336 --> 00:18:42,686 Why? 146 00:18:42,730 --> 00:18:45,689 We were good. 147 00:18:45,733 --> 00:18:47,865 We were lucky. 148 00:18:50,346 --> 00:18:52,653 [Sniffles] For a little while. 149 00:18:57,919 --> 00:19:00,269 Make sure she gets home. 150 00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:02,315 Promise. 151 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:53,366 Carol: This way. 152 00:20:18,260 --> 00:20:20,393 Kelly: No. 153 00:20:20,436 --> 00:20:22,699 No. [Sniffles] 154 00:20:22,743 --> 00:20:24,745 It can't be. 155 00:20:24,788 --> 00:20:26,964 It's okay. 156 00:20:32,274 --> 00:20:34,407 We'll keep looking for the rest. 157 00:20:34,450 --> 00:20:36,800 They'll stay close to the water. 158 00:20:36,844 --> 00:20:39,150 Not if it's full of corpses they won't. 159 00:20:39,194 --> 00:20:41,240 Carol, it's getting late. 160 00:20:43,807 --> 00:20:45,592 She's right. 161 00:20:45,635 --> 00:20:47,202 We don't have to do this right now. 162 00:20:47,246 --> 00:20:48,769 Let's come back tomorrow. 163 00:20:48,812 --> 00:20:52,251 No, Alexandria needed these horses yesterday. 164 00:20:54,862 --> 00:20:56,820 Carol... 165 00:21:15,665 --> 00:21:17,493 Let's go home. 166 00:21:35,468 --> 00:21:37,644 We'll try again. 167 00:21:37,687 --> 00:21:39,950 Next time. 168 00:21:41,865 --> 00:21:43,476 Hey. 169 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:45,652 Maybe not. 170 00:22:08,936 --> 00:22:10,981 Dope. [Chuckles] 171 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:19,512 Rosita: They're headed towards the dairy farm. 172 00:22:19,555 --> 00:22:22,079 And?The dairy farm's got paddocks. 173 00:22:22,123 --> 00:22:23,603 We can pen them in. 174 00:22:23,646 --> 00:22:25,518 Come on. Let's go. 175 00:22:36,398 --> 00:22:38,922 Easy now. Easy now. 176 00:22:50,543 --> 00:22:52,719 Drop the lassos. 177 00:22:52,762 --> 00:22:54,111 Why? 178 00:22:54,155 --> 00:22:55,939 Just do it. 179 00:23:07,211 --> 00:23:09,562 They're not running. 180 00:23:11,433 --> 00:23:13,566 I think they want to come home. 181 00:23:20,007 --> 00:23:21,443 Hey. 182 00:23:27,057 --> 00:23:29,886 Whoa. 183 00:23:42,464 --> 00:23:45,772 Nicholls: Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, 184 00:23:45,815 --> 00:23:50,211 I will fear no evil, for thou art with me. 185 00:23:50,254 --> 00:23:53,997 Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, 186 00:23:54,041 --> 00:23:59,307 I will fear no evil, for thou art with me. 187 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:08,316 You move slower than I thought you would. 188 00:24:10,797 --> 00:24:14,453 Don't be scared. 189 00:24:14,496 --> 00:24:16,716 I'm not. 190 00:24:18,457 --> 00:24:20,546 We have been blessed. 191 00:24:22,286 --> 00:24:23,984 I... 192 00:24:24,027 --> 00:24:26,987 I have been blessed. 193 00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:29,468 You have a funny definition of blessed. 194 00:24:31,034 --> 00:24:35,256 But it is you who has come for me. 195 00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:37,476 Will you pray for me? 196 00:24:41,523 --> 00:24:44,439 You tried to kill my friends. 197 00:24:44,483 --> 00:24:47,268 Yes. 198 00:24:47,311 --> 00:24:49,488 And they tried to kill me. 199 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,447 Pray for me. 200 00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:55,755 Even your enemies deserve that much. 201 00:25:00,107 --> 00:25:02,196 I thought you were a man of God. 202 00:25:11,335 --> 00:25:13,686 God isn't here anymore. 203 00:25:24,348 --> 00:25:26,612 Twice as many as before. 204 00:25:26,655 --> 00:25:30,529 We need to rethink your plan, Maggie. 205 00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:33,009 You're a free man, Negan. You wanna go? 206 00:25:33,053 --> 00:25:34,663 Go. 207 00:25:34,707 --> 00:25:36,883 I can help you. 208 00:25:36,926 --> 00:25:39,538 You know, your friends, they trusted me. 209 00:25:39,581 --> 00:25:42,323 You were gone for a long time. 210 00:25:42,366 --> 00:25:45,544 Things change. People change. 211 00:25:45,587 --> 00:25:47,110 No. 212 00:25:47,154 --> 00:25:49,809 Maybe you've got them fooled, but not me. 213 00:25:51,593 --> 00:25:55,510 Stop pretending you're one of us, Negan. 214 00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:57,817 Maybe you even believe it. 215 00:25:57,860 --> 00:25:59,340 But you're probably as good at lying to yourself 216 00:25:59,383 --> 00:26:01,211 as you are to everybody else. 217 00:26:19,186 --> 00:26:21,318 You okay, Maggie? 218 00:26:21,362 --> 00:26:22,624 Yeah. 219 00:26:22,668 --> 00:26:24,931 I can handle Negan. 220 00:26:24,974 --> 00:26:27,455 I wasn't talking about Negan. 221 00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:35,332 This can't be what you thought you'd be coming home to. 222 00:26:35,376 --> 00:26:38,945 It can't be what you told Hershel he'd see. 223 00:26:38,988 --> 00:26:43,384 You know, not much surprises me anymore. 224 00:26:43,427 --> 00:26:45,778 Except Hilltop. 225 00:26:45,821 --> 00:26:47,954 It's not the place I told Hershel about. 226 00:26:47,997 --> 00:26:49,956 Hold on a sec. 227 00:26:58,442 --> 00:27:01,707 You know, I'm not sure much surprises him anymore, either. 228 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:07,713 You'll build it back up, 229 00:27:07,756 --> 00:27:09,976 better than it was before. 230 00:27:10,019 --> 00:27:12,369 Wewill. 231 00:27:12,413 --> 00:27:14,415 Sure. 232 00:27:14,458 --> 00:27:16,591 We'll get it done. 233 00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:17,853 At least by the time 234 00:27:17,897 --> 00:27:20,160 that Adam is old enough to remember. 235 00:27:21,857 --> 00:27:25,339 I leave for one minute, and you're raising a kid. 236 00:27:27,471 --> 00:27:28,951 Maggie, if I, uh... 237 00:27:28,995 --> 00:27:31,301 We'll start when we get back, okay? 238 00:27:34,696 --> 00:27:39,396 The good news is, he lives in Alexandria, so... 239 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,703 small wins.Mm-hmm. 240 00:27:48,231 --> 00:27:50,581 What the hell? 241 00:28:16,564 --> 00:28:17,739 This way. 242 00:28:17,783 --> 00:28:20,046 Come on! 243 00:28:30,099 --> 00:28:31,622 Let's go. 244 00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:39,065 I got him. 245 00:28:57,257 --> 00:28:59,215 Agatha! 246 00:29:03,002 --> 00:29:04,960 Go! Just go! No! Come on! 247 00:29:05,004 --> 00:29:06,483 Run! No! 248 00:29:06,527 --> 00:29:09,399 Run! No! 249 00:29:09,443 --> 00:29:10,966 Agatha, no! 250 00:29:12,881 --> 00:29:15,144 No! Get off! 251 00:29:16,929 --> 00:29:18,757 No! No! No! No! No! 252 00:29:33,597 --> 00:29:35,556 Woman: Look! They're back! 253 00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:37,079 They've got the horses! 254 00:29:44,652 --> 00:29:47,568 Oh, my God! 255 00:29:50,353 --> 00:29:54,009 I'll go get Aaron. 256 00:30:05,412 --> 00:30:06,805 Alright, I'm out. 257 00:30:10,417 --> 00:30:13,072 Bye. 258 00:30:19,643 --> 00:30:22,168 Very good boy. 259 00:30:23,604 --> 00:30:25,998 Hey, Carol. 260 00:30:26,041 --> 00:30:27,390 Can we talk? 261 00:30:27,434 --> 00:30:29,001 Yeah, sure. 262 00:30:29,044 --> 00:30:32,395 I know what you're doing, and I want you to stop. 263 00:30:32,439 --> 00:30:34,397 Sorry? 264 00:30:34,441 --> 00:30:37,009 You're giving Kelly false hope. 265 00:30:37,052 --> 00:30:38,837 I-I don't understand. 266 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,577 Yes, you do. 267 00:30:40,621 --> 00:30:42,405 You don't think Connie's alive. 268 00:30:42,449 --> 00:30:46,018 You just can't accept what it means if she's not. 269 00:30:46,061 --> 00:30:47,454 Well, you're Connie's family. 270 00:30:47,497 --> 00:30:49,760 I would think you'd want to know either way. 271 00:30:49,804 --> 00:30:51,850 I want my family to heal. 272 00:30:51,893 --> 00:30:54,026 All that's left of it. 273 00:30:54,069 --> 00:30:56,158 Kelly looks up to you. 274 00:30:56,202 --> 00:30:59,335 Carol, I'm sorry for whatever you're going through, 275 00:30:59,379 --> 00:31:02,164 but I'm asking you, I'm begging you, 276 00:31:02,208 --> 00:31:06,734 whatever doing or telling her, stop. 277 00:31:06,777 --> 00:31:09,302 You're just making it harder. 278 00:31:18,224 --> 00:31:21,140 Come on, buddy. 279 00:31:27,102 --> 00:31:29,235 There you go. 280 00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:06,767 Go on. 281 00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:10,162 No, thank you. 282 00:33:10,205 --> 00:33:14,166 Just take really small bites. 283 00:33:14,209 --> 00:33:17,125 The smaller, the better. 284 00:33:17,169 --> 00:33:19,127 You've eaten it before? 285 00:33:19,171 --> 00:33:21,521 Hershel: Yeah, on the road, with my mom. 286 00:33:21,564 --> 00:33:23,784 You eat what you find. 287 00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:31,183 You ever been on the road? 288 00:33:31,226 --> 00:33:32,488 Not like that. 289 00:33:32,532 --> 00:33:35,013 Well, you meet a lot of different people. 290 00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:40,148 Just chew it fast. 291 00:33:40,192 --> 00:33:42,585 It's not that bad. 292 00:33:42,629 --> 00:33:44,674 Not like the spiders. 293 00:33:52,073 --> 00:33:55,598 Wanna see if we can pet a pony? 294 00:33:55,642 --> 00:33:58,036 [Gasps] Hey. Look. 295 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,038 They're interested. 296 00:34:02,388 --> 00:34:05,826 Do you want to pet a pony? [Chuckles] 297 00:34:05,869 --> 00:34:07,915 Beautiful, right? Look. Look. 298 00:35:07,409 --> 00:35:08,889 Ready? 299 00:35:08,932 --> 00:35:10,673 Carol: Mm-hmm. 300 00:35:25,732 --> 00:35:28,256 Goddamn shit. 301 00:35:31,216 --> 00:35:32,608 What? 302 00:35:32,652 --> 00:35:35,133 You like the taste of crap cardboard? 303 00:35:39,093 --> 00:35:41,878 We should get back in the woods. 304 00:35:41,922 --> 00:35:43,880 The road is faster. 305 00:35:43,924 --> 00:35:45,491 He's right. The woods have cover. 306 00:35:45,534 --> 00:35:48,276 It's safer. 307 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,148 Let's go there. 308 00:35:50,191 --> 00:35:51,497 No. 309 00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:53,281 We need to keep moving. 310 00:35:53,325 --> 00:35:55,631 No, we need a break. 311 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,837 We'll rest here for a while, and then we'll head out. 312 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,540 I know what you're thinking. 313 00:36:34,583 --> 00:36:36,455 The answer is no. 314 00:36:42,243 --> 00:36:44,202 He's right, Maggie. 315 00:36:46,595 --> 00:36:48,945 I'm slowing you down. 316 00:36:48,989 --> 00:36:50,773 Nope. 317 00:36:50,817 --> 00:36:52,079 We're fine. 318 00:36:52,122 --> 00:36:55,430 Maybe now. 319 00:36:55,474 --> 00:36:58,390 If these guys are anything like you say they are, 320 00:36:58,433 --> 00:37:00,479 then it's gonna get worse. 321 00:37:04,265 --> 00:37:07,225 I'm dead weight. 322 00:37:07,268 --> 00:37:08,791 We all know it. 323 00:37:08,835 --> 00:37:10,315 We'll help you. 324 00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:25,243 You wanna know why I walked away from him... 325 00:37:25,286 --> 00:37:28,246 and everything he stood for... 326 00:37:28,289 --> 00:37:30,248 joined up with you? 327 00:37:33,076 --> 00:37:36,036 It's 'cause I trust you... 328 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,821 to do the right thing. 329 00:37:38,865 --> 00:37:41,911 No matter how hard it is or how much it costs you. 330 00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:46,699 The supplies -- Maggie, look at me. 331 00:37:48,657 --> 00:37:52,574 The supplies are the only thing that matters now. 332 00:37:52,618 --> 00:37:55,273 Alexandria needs us to do this. 333 00:37:56,883 --> 00:37:59,625 They're waiting for us. 334 00:37:59,668 --> 00:38:02,584 Hershel and Judith. 335 00:38:02,628 --> 00:38:03,977 Adam... 336 00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:06,632 And Adam needs a father. 337 00:38:06,675 --> 00:38:10,026 You think I'm gonna make it out of that town alive like this? 338 00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:11,854 You left Gage. Leave me. 339 00:38:11,898 --> 00:38:14,814 Gage made his choice. 340 00:38:14,857 --> 00:38:17,033 And I'm making mine. 341 00:38:19,514 --> 00:38:20,863 No. 342 00:38:20,907 --> 00:38:23,431 Just... No. 343 00:38:23,475 --> 00:38:26,652 Maggie, if this plan fails... 344 00:38:26,695 --> 00:38:28,610 then everything you've worked for, 345 00:38:28,654 --> 00:38:31,961 everything you want for the future, 346 00:38:32,005 --> 00:38:33,485 it dies with it. 347 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,493 And then what happens to Adam? 348 00:38:41,536 --> 00:38:43,495 Okay. 349 00:38:43,538 --> 00:38:45,497 It's not that simple. 350 00:38:48,151 --> 00:38:50,066 Yeah, it is. 351 00:38:52,678 --> 00:38:55,289 Negan: The sun is going down. 352 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:57,335 Maggie... 353 00:38:57,378 --> 00:38:59,337 you have to make a decision. 354 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:03,079 It's easy for you, isn't it? 355 00:39:05,734 --> 00:39:09,825 Being reckless with somebody else's life. 356 00:39:15,701 --> 00:39:17,137 But you don't get to decide 357 00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:20,096 who lives and who dies anymore. 358 00:39:24,187 --> 00:39:26,929 It's your fault. 359 00:39:26,973 --> 00:39:28,888 That we're here. 360 00:39:31,194 --> 00:39:34,372 It's your fault. 361 00:39:34,415 --> 00:39:37,113 Because you destroyed everything that we built. 362 00:39:42,989 --> 00:39:45,121 You still have to decide. 363 00:40:17,763 --> 00:40:19,982 Ma-- Maggie. 364 00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:26,598 Here. 365 00:41:14,515 --> 00:41:16,865 You better be here when we get back. 366 00:41:18,214 --> 00:41:20,652 You better come back. 367 00:42:32,506 --> 00:42:33,681 Man: Do you feel that? 368 00:42:33,725 --> 00:42:35,291 All that chaos. 369 00:42:38,512 --> 00:42:41,471 Death, day after day. 370 00:42:43,648 --> 00:42:45,780 God is angry. 371 00:42:49,958 --> 00:42:52,613 I'm angry. 372 00:42:52,657 --> 00:42:55,311 make them feel our wrath. 373 00:43:07,759 --> 00:43:10,413 This episode is pretty much a direct pickup 374 00:43:10,457 --> 00:43:11,545 from the previous episode, 375 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:13,068 but we are really living 376 00:43:13,112 --> 00:43:15,331 in Maggie's point of view. 377 00:43:15,375 --> 00:43:16,811 Maggie's the one that kind of 378 00:43:16,855 --> 00:43:18,465 brought everybody on this mission 379 00:43:18,508 --> 00:43:22,861 and they're already off to this chaotic, intense start 380 00:43:22,904 --> 00:43:24,732 and they're realizing 381 00:43:24,776 --> 00:43:28,257 just how scary and dangerous these Reapers are. 382 00:43:28,301 --> 00:43:30,172 There's so much going on and, you know, 383 00:43:30,216 --> 00:43:31,957 they can all barely see each other. 384 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,047 Everything's happening in these kind of flashes and blurs. 385 00:43:35,090 --> 00:43:36,526 There's sort of this helplessness, 386 00:43:36,570 --> 00:43:38,137 in some ways, to our people, 387 00:43:38,180 --> 00:43:39,965 like they feel like there's not much they can do, 388 00:43:40,008 --> 00:43:43,185 other than just try to scramble and survive it as best they can. 389 00:43:43,229 --> 00:43:45,666 And that's already weighing heavy on Maggie 390 00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:47,102 as we start the episode. 391 00:43:54,849 --> 00:43:57,286 Carol and Aaron are a little bit at odds 392 00:43:57,330 --> 00:44:00,986 and I think, in a lot of ways, it's just important to remember 393 00:44:01,029 --> 00:44:03,553 that Carol and Aaron are friends. 394 00:44:03,597 --> 00:44:06,513 They are basically on the same side, 395 00:44:06,556 --> 00:44:08,907 but reasonable people can disagree 396 00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:11,605 about what is the best way to move forward 397 00:44:11,649 --> 00:44:14,347 and I think Carol is really in a place 398 00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:16,828 where she's feeling like 399 00:44:16,871 --> 00:44:19,352 so much of what has happened to Alexandria 400 00:44:19,395 --> 00:44:21,615 is indirectly her fault. 401 00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:23,008 You know, you can't really say 402 00:44:23,051 --> 00:44:25,619 that it wasn't going to happen, anyway. 403 00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:27,490 I mean, the Whisperers were always going to get 404 00:44:27,534 --> 00:44:30,493 into conflict with our people, but she's still working 405 00:44:30,537 --> 00:44:32,844 through everything that's happened with Connie 406 00:44:32,887 --> 00:44:35,716 and, you know, when she and Magna were lost in the cave, 407 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,633 as a result of the explosion that Carol caused. 408 00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:41,940 She just feels massive guilt every day. 409 00:44:41,983 --> 00:44:44,856 So she is dealing with that in her own way 410 00:44:44,899 --> 00:44:47,815 and I think Carol functions well as a lone wolf. 411 00:44:47,859 --> 00:44:52,385 She's always kind of had this instinct to go out and do things 412 00:44:52,428 --> 00:44:56,041 and think in ways that maybe everybody else isn't thinking, 413 00:44:56,084 --> 00:44:59,044 but sometimes it does put her in odds with her friends. 414 00:44:59,087 --> 00:45:00,132 There is love there. 415 00:45:00,175 --> 00:45:01,655 There is respect there. 416 00:45:01,699 --> 00:45:03,483 However, there's also frustration 417 00:45:03,526 --> 00:45:06,573 that it's just they can't get on the same page 418 00:45:06,616 --> 00:45:08,401 about how to address the problems. 419 00:45:11,447 --> 00:45:14,886 We really enjoy getting to see the kids on our show 420 00:45:14,929 --> 00:45:17,758 and to put them in interesting situations 421 00:45:17,802 --> 00:45:20,413 and see them also kind of grow up 422 00:45:20,456 --> 00:45:21,631 as they're working on the show. 423 00:45:21,675 --> 00:45:23,198 And we really wanted to see 424 00:45:23,242 --> 00:45:25,766 Judith and Hershel getting to interact together 425 00:45:25,810 --> 00:45:28,726 after they didn't grow up in the same community. 426 00:45:28,769 --> 00:45:30,771 There's a hopeful message in it, too, 427 00:45:30,815 --> 00:45:34,427 which is that children find ways to be resilient, 428 00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:35,863 even in the midst of a world 429 00:45:35,907 --> 00:45:37,517 that feels like it's breaking apart, 430 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,824 and that there is hope in the ways 431 00:45:39,867 --> 00:45:43,305 that they can find little spots of normalcy. 432 00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:46,047 And you also kind of get to have the perspective of, 433 00:45:46,091 --> 00:45:48,310 "Oh, the grownups, they're so [Laughs] annoying, 434 00:45:48,354 --> 00:45:49,659 in the way they do things." 435 00:45:49,703 --> 00:45:51,226 Like which I think is sort of 436 00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:53,576 a universal attitude that children have. 437 00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:55,056 I remember having that attitude. 438 00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:57,885 Grownups are always running off doing things. 439 00:45:57,929 --> 00:45:59,669 "Promise I'll see you soon!" 440 00:45:59,713 --> 00:46:01,454 [Laughs]"Love you!" 441 00:46:01,497 --> 00:46:03,151 They were so charming together. 442 00:46:03,195 --> 00:46:06,067 They really seemed to have a great time doing that scene. 443 00:46:08,113 --> 00:46:09,114 Dang it! 444 00:46:11,856 --> 00:46:13,945 We wanted to show Maggie 445 00:46:13,988 --> 00:46:17,252 in kind of this horror movie sequence, basically, 446 00:46:17,296 --> 00:46:20,168 where she's going down this staircase 447 00:46:20,212 --> 00:46:22,257 and she's trying to escape from the Reapers 448 00:46:22,301 --> 00:46:23,519 and not make any sound, 449 00:46:23,563 --> 00:46:25,260 but can barely see what she's doing 450 00:46:25,304 --> 00:46:28,873 and is trying to create little sound traps, 451 00:46:28,916 --> 00:46:31,397 so that she can hear them coming. 452 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,139 But the Reapers are sort of spooky 453 00:46:34,182 --> 00:46:38,491 and they're very sneaky and good at working in stealth, 454 00:46:38,534 --> 00:46:40,101 and so that was one of the things 455 00:46:40,145 --> 00:46:42,147 that we wanted to show with them in the sequence. 456 00:46:42,190 --> 00:46:45,585 I personally always feel like I'm going to get murdered 457 00:46:45,628 --> 00:46:47,500 in a staircase or like a parking lot. 458 00:46:47,543 --> 00:46:50,851 Those spaces can feel really, really terrifying sometimes 459 00:46:50,895 --> 00:46:52,810 and they're empty and dark. 460 00:46:52,853 --> 00:46:55,856 So we fully wanted to kind of play into that, 461 00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:58,250 that aspect of hearing like echoing steps, 462 00:46:58,293 --> 00:47:00,600 just not being able to see around the corner 463 00:47:00,643 --> 00:47:02,297 as you're moving up in the levels, 464 00:47:02,341 --> 00:47:04,734 that can feel really, really creepy. 465 00:47:04,778 --> 00:47:06,606 And, you know, it's also just fun 466 00:47:06,649 --> 00:47:10,305 to see Maggie just be awesome and be an awesome survivor. 467 00:47:13,526 --> 00:47:15,571 Aah! 468 00:47:16,877 --> 00:47:19,010 When Negan saves Maggie, I mean, 469 00:47:19,053 --> 00:47:22,100 I think he's accepted that, to get through this, 470 00:47:22,143 --> 00:47:23,928 I mean, Maggie's a really good fighter, too. 471 00:47:23,971 --> 00:47:25,364 He doesn't want to see her go. 472 00:47:25,407 --> 00:47:27,975 He's very, very drawn to people 473 00:47:28,019 --> 00:47:30,673 who are very strong and stubborn 474 00:47:30,717 --> 00:47:32,197 and have leadership qualities. 475 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:33,763 We've seen that throughout the years. 476 00:47:33,807 --> 00:47:35,243 In some ways, you might even say 477 00:47:35,287 --> 00:47:37,463 that was sort of his Achilles' heel, 478 00:47:37,506 --> 00:47:40,205 is that he was always thinking, 479 00:47:40,248 --> 00:47:44,296 "I can turn this person on my side 480 00:47:44,339 --> 00:47:46,733 and I like you because you're a badass 481 00:47:46,776 --> 00:47:48,126 and you tell it like it is 482 00:47:48,169 --> 00:47:50,171 and I like that you push up against me." 483 00:47:50,215 --> 00:47:52,217 And he's always trying to go like, "Come on! 484 00:47:52,260 --> 00:47:55,437 Like, now take all of that and just transfer it to my team. 485 00:47:55,481 --> 00:47:56,395 Like don't you get it? 486 00:47:56,438 --> 00:47:57,744 If we work together, 487 00:47:57,787 --> 00:47:59,441 it's all going to work out." 488 00:47:59,485 --> 00:48:00,878 So I think that that's actually 489 00:48:00,921 --> 00:48:02,792 kind of consistent with his character, 490 00:48:02,836 --> 00:48:07,928 is that, as much as he doesn't trust Maggie and fears her, 491 00:48:07,972 --> 00:48:11,105 when she does give him that gun in the subway, 492 00:48:11,149 --> 00:48:13,325 I think that that kind of triggers 493 00:48:13,368 --> 00:48:15,414 a little bit of a sense in him 494 00:48:15,457 --> 00:48:18,417 of like, "Alright, maybe I don't have to be afraid 495 00:48:18,460 --> 00:48:20,114 that she's going to shoot me in the head 496 00:48:20,158 --> 00:48:21,420 when the opportunity comes. 497 00:48:21,463 --> 00:48:23,770 Maybe she does find me valuable, 498 00:48:23,813 --> 00:48:27,252 and that's something that I can work with, in some kind of way." 499 00:48:27,295 --> 00:48:29,341 And so I think, when he saves her, 500 00:48:29,384 --> 00:48:31,256 he probably does it out of instinct... 501 00:48:32,866 --> 00:48:34,781 ...but I also think he's smart enough to think, 502 00:48:34,824 --> 00:48:37,262 "We are kind of in it together and we're stuck together, 503 00:48:37,305 --> 00:48:41,048 so like, let me see if I can get a favor from her, too," 504 00:48:41,092 --> 00:48:44,443 because he did pick her over Alden." 505 00:48:44,486 --> 00:48:46,662 You think you can walk? 506 00:48:46,706 --> 00:48:47,925 Not gonna know until we try. 507 00:48:47,968 --> 00:48:49,230 Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're not seriously 508 00:48:49,274 --> 00:48:51,972 -Aah! -thinking that we keep going. 509 00:48:52,016 --> 00:48:53,539 The plan doesn't change. 510 00:48:53,582 --> 00:48:55,323 We need that food. 511 00:48:55,367 --> 00:48:59,632 Negan is absolutely shocked that, after all this, 512 00:48:59,675 --> 00:49:01,199 Maggie wants to keep going. 513 00:49:01,242 --> 00:49:02,983 The interesting thing, with Negan, is 514 00:49:03,027 --> 00:49:06,900 this is not a guy that was an angel before the apocalypse, 515 00:49:06,944 --> 00:49:09,294 but neither was he a guy that was just like, 516 00:49:09,337 --> 00:49:12,210 "I actually want to shoot people up all the time." 517 00:49:12,253 --> 00:49:14,560 He, in fact, was like, "Let me try to kill 518 00:49:14,603 --> 00:49:18,346 the minimum number of people to make my point, 519 00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:20,392 and then, hopefully, you'll just fall in line 520 00:49:20,435 --> 00:49:21,610 and I don't have to deal with it." 521 00:49:21,654 --> 00:49:23,221 Like he'd rather just not deal with it. 522 00:49:23,264 --> 00:49:26,267 So I think, for Negan, he's kind of grumpy 523 00:49:26,311 --> 00:49:28,095 and he's like, "This is the army? 524 00:49:28,139 --> 00:49:30,706 This is the army that's going to go in against these people? 525 00:49:30,750 --> 00:49:32,317 That, clearly, 526 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,449 we're a little outmatched, in terms of skill set 527 00:49:34,493 --> 00:49:35,842 and there seems to be a lot of them. 528 00:49:35,885 --> 00:49:36,974 They seem to be really mad." 529 00:49:37,017 --> 00:49:38,323 Like, you know, 530 00:49:38,366 --> 00:49:39,977 his perspective's not wrong. 531 00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:43,241 It's a valid perspective, but he doesn't give 532 00:49:43,284 --> 00:49:45,156 his notes gently. I'll just say that. 533 00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:46,548 Those people, they just told us 534 00:49:46,592 --> 00:49:48,594 exactly how insane they are. 535 00:49:48,637 --> 00:49:50,204 We can't be on a road. 536 00:49:50,248 --> 00:49:52,990 We can't be on any road that they could use. 537 00:49:53,033 --> 00:49:55,079 It's a shit plan. 538 00:49:55,122 --> 00:49:57,559 By the time we get to that big scene 539 00:49:57,603 --> 00:49:59,474 with Negan and Maggie at the end 540 00:49:59,518 --> 00:50:01,172 and, you know, Alden's there 541 00:50:01,215 --> 00:50:03,696 and Maggie's going to make this heartbreaking choice 542 00:50:03,739 --> 00:50:06,177 that they do have to keep going and leave Alden, 543 00:50:06,220 --> 00:50:08,266 which she absolutely does not want to do, 544 00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:11,312 I think that, for Negan, he's a smart guy. 545 00:50:11,356 --> 00:50:14,794 He can see that she doesn't really want his advice. 546 00:50:14,837 --> 00:50:17,623 That doesn't mean he's going to stop giving it, altogether, 547 00:50:17,666 --> 00:50:20,452 but I do think he's kind of at a point where he realizes, 548 00:50:20,495 --> 00:50:23,498 if he's trying to push her too hard, here, 549 00:50:23,542 --> 00:50:25,935 all that's going to happen is she's going to get angry 550 00:50:25,979 --> 00:50:27,850 and it's going to delay, maybe, 551 00:50:27,894 --> 00:50:31,941 this choice that she knows herself she needs to make. 552 00:50:31,985 --> 00:50:33,900 He's pretty sure that she's going 553 00:50:33,943 --> 00:50:36,337 to make the choice to keep moving. 554 00:50:36,381 --> 00:50:38,165 He knows that she's mission-focused, 555 00:50:38,209 --> 00:50:41,386 but she kind of has to go through the emotion of it 556 00:50:41,429 --> 00:50:43,736 and it makes it even that much more heartbreaking, 557 00:50:43,779 --> 00:50:47,218 when the person who should be kind of panicking is like, 558 00:50:47,261 --> 00:50:50,090 "You know as well as I do what has to be done." 559 00:50:50,134 --> 00:50:52,266 And, at the heart of "The Walking Dead," 560 00:50:52,310 --> 00:50:55,356 it's about those hard choices 561 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,795 and sometimes our heroes make choices that they don't like. 562 00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:01,406 Sometimes they make the wrong choice 563 00:51:01,449 --> 00:51:03,147 and sometimes they make the choice 564 00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:05,105 that is right and feels good. 565 00:51:05,149 --> 00:51:07,455 But this is one of those ones where it just feels like 566 00:51:07,499 --> 00:51:10,110 there's no win in any situation. 567 00:51:10,154 --> 00:51:12,678 They just have to make the one that helps them 568 00:51:12,721 --> 00:51:14,636 do the most good for the most people.