1 00:00:01,932 --> 00:00:03,804 Carol: We just took in two new communities. 2 00:00:03,847 --> 00:00:06,067 We have no crops, no back stock. 3 00:00:06,111 --> 00:00:09,157 The last big horde scared all the animals away. 4 00:00:09,201 --> 00:00:10,767 We can find new territory. 5 00:00:10,811 --> 00:00:14,336 We don't have time. We need food. Lots of it. Now. 6 00:00:14,380 --> 00:00:16,425 Maggie: The people that attacked us -- 7 00:00:16,469 --> 00:00:18,166 we only knew two things about them. 8 00:00:18,210 --> 00:00:20,429 ♪ 9 00:00:20,473 --> 00:00:21,735 They come at night. 10 00:00:21,778 --> 00:00:23,737 ♪ 11 00:00:23,780 --> 00:00:25,869 And by the time you see them, you're already dead. 12 00:00:25,913 --> 00:00:28,655 ♪ 13 00:00:29,873 --> 00:00:37,620 ♪ 14 00:00:37,664 --> 00:00:40,145 [Breathing heavily] 15 00:00:40,188 --> 00:00:42,060 Run! 16 00:00:42,103 --> 00:00:45,324 ♪ 17 00:00:45,367 --> 00:00:46,629 [Grunts] 18 00:00:46,673 --> 00:00:50,111 [Indistinct shouting] 19 00:00:50,155 --> 00:00:57,553 ♪ 20 00:00:57,597 --> 00:00:58,815 [Screams] 21 00:00:58,859 --> 00:01:06,388 ♪ 22 00:01:06,432 --> 00:01:09,130 [Whistles] Dog![Dog barks] 23 00:01:09,174 --> 00:01:17,399 ♪ 24 00:01:17,443 --> 00:01:19,227 Elijah! 25 00:01:19,271 --> 00:01:21,664 No! 26 00:01:21,708 --> 00:01:31,674 ♪ 27 00:01:31,718 --> 00:01:41,031 ♪ 28 00:01:41,075 --> 00:01:51,041 ♪ 29 00:01:51,085 --> 00:02:01,051 ♪ 30 00:02:01,095 --> 00:02:11,061 ♪ 31 00:02:11,105 --> 00:02:21,071 ♪ 32 00:02:21,115 --> 00:02:29,341 ♪ 33 00:02:32,779 --> 00:02:34,955 [Insects chirping] 34 00:02:34,998 --> 00:02:39,177 [Vultures screeching] 35 00:02:43,790 --> 00:02:48,142 ♪ 36 00:02:48,186 --> 00:02:50,100 [Rattling] 37 00:02:50,144 --> 00:02:54,801 ♪ 38 00:02:54,844 --> 00:02:57,282 [Indistinct conversation] 39 00:03:04,811 --> 00:03:07,248 See you in 30. 40 00:03:07,292 --> 00:03:10,512 Kel. Kel, Kel. 41 00:03:13,428 --> 00:03:15,865 I missed you this morning. 42 00:03:15,909 --> 00:03:18,259 Thought we had a shift together. 43 00:03:18,303 --> 00:03:21,219 [Sighs] Sorry. Something came up. 44 00:03:21,262 --> 00:03:24,396 You still want to do those shifts with me? 45 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:26,224 It's okay if you don't. 46 00:03:26,267 --> 00:03:30,053 Next one. I promise. 47 00:03:30,097 --> 00:03:32,099 Kel. 48 00:03:32,142 --> 00:03:34,232 Do you... 49 00:03:34,275 --> 00:03:37,104 Do you wanna talk about it? 50 00:03:38,627 --> 00:03:40,673 Nothing to talk about. 51 00:03:52,293 --> 00:03:55,601 Man: Come on. Everyone -- pull! 52 00:03:55,644 --> 00:03:58,908 [All grunting] 53 00:04:18,101 --> 00:04:20,974 Hey. Going somewhere? 54 00:04:21,017 --> 00:04:23,281 We need to get our horses back. 55 00:04:23,324 --> 00:04:24,630 You see the east wall when you came in? 56 00:04:24,673 --> 00:04:26,849 I did. 57 00:04:26,893 --> 00:04:28,111 You were marked down to help today. 58 00:04:28,155 --> 00:04:30,462 Looks like you've got a crew already. 59 00:04:30,505 --> 00:04:31,854 Well, you were gone all morning. 60 00:04:31,898 --> 00:04:33,639 We started without you. 61 00:04:33,682 --> 00:04:36,076 I'm sorry, Aaron. I can't today. 62 00:04:36,119 --> 00:04:38,078 [Sighs] Because you're tracking horses 63 00:04:38,121 --> 00:04:40,080 that you have almost no hope of catching? 64 00:04:40,123 --> 00:04:43,083 You know, Daryl and I went down that road before. 65 00:04:43,126 --> 00:04:46,695 Didn't work out so well for Buttons. 66 00:04:46,739 --> 00:04:48,393 We're almost out of MREs, 67 00:04:48,436 --> 00:04:50,438 and the fields are a joke -- 68 00:04:50,482 --> 00:04:52,440 And our walls are about to fail. 69 00:04:52,484 --> 00:04:53,876 Well, if we don't get those horses, 70 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,314 we're not gonna be able to move anything heavier 71 00:04:56,357 --> 00:04:58,490 than a sack of grain. 72 00:04:58,533 --> 00:05:00,318 Or go out far enough to scavenge anything, 73 00:05:00,361 --> 00:05:03,886 and we're all gonna starve to death. 74 00:05:03,930 --> 00:05:05,845 So I'll be back in a few hours. 75 00:05:16,377 --> 00:05:18,161 I'm hungry, too. 76 00:05:20,729 --> 00:05:23,079 Do you ever worry about your mom when she goes away? 77 00:05:23,123 --> 00:05:24,907 I'm used to it. 78 00:05:24,951 --> 00:05:27,867 Grown-ups are always running off doing things. 79 00:05:27,910 --> 00:05:29,912 "Promise I'll see you soon. 80 00:05:29,956 --> 00:05:32,350 Love you."[Chuckles] 81 00:05:33,481 --> 00:05:34,961 [Chuckles] 82 00:05:35,004 --> 00:05:36,789 They used to say that kind of stuff 83 00:05:36,832 --> 00:05:38,486 in the olden times, right? 84 00:05:38,530 --> 00:05:41,968 They can't promise it now, but they say it anyways. 85 00:05:42,011 --> 00:05:45,145 They don't want us to think they're never coming back. 86 00:05:45,188 --> 00:05:47,495 It's supposed to make us feel better. 87 00:05:47,539 --> 00:05:49,671 They say it to make themselvesfeel better. 88 00:05:51,804 --> 00:05:53,545 Still... 89 00:05:53,588 --> 00:05:55,634 my mom always comes back. 90 00:05:55,677 --> 00:05:58,376 Yeah. 91 00:06:03,555 --> 00:06:06,949 Dang it. 92 00:06:06,993 --> 00:06:10,300 [Footsteps approach] 93 00:06:10,344 --> 00:06:15,567 ♪ 94 00:06:15,610 --> 00:06:19,135 [Vultures screeching] 95 00:06:19,179 --> 00:06:22,704 [Metal creaking] 96 00:06:22,748 --> 00:06:32,714 ♪ 97 00:06:32,758 --> 00:06:42,463 ♪ 98 00:06:42,507 --> 00:06:52,473 ♪ 99 00:06:52,517 --> 00:07:02,483 ♪ 100 00:07:02,527 --> 00:07:06,400 ♪ 101 00:07:06,444 --> 00:07:10,839 [Door closes] 102 00:07:10,883 --> 00:07:14,277 [Panting] 103 00:07:14,321 --> 00:07:24,287 ♪ 104 00:07:24,331 --> 00:07:25,724 ♪ 105 00:07:25,767 --> 00:07:28,248 [Door creaks] 106 00:07:28,291 --> 00:07:30,729 [Door closes] 107 00:07:30,772 --> 00:07:35,516 [Walker growling in distance] 108 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,518 ♪ 109 00:07:37,562 --> 00:07:39,520 [Bottles clinking] 110 00:07:39,564 --> 00:07:49,530 ♪ 111 00:07:49,574 --> 00:07:59,540 ♪ 112 00:07:59,584 --> 00:08:08,723 ♪ 113 00:08:08,767 --> 00:08:12,510 [Growling continues] 114 00:08:12,553 --> 00:08:22,520 ♪ 115 00:08:22,563 --> 00:08:32,530 ♪ 116 00:08:32,573 --> 00:08:42,540 ♪ 117 00:08:42,583 --> 00:08:46,587 ♪ 118 00:08:46,631 --> 00:08:50,939 [Growling continues] 119 00:08:50,983 --> 00:08:58,643 ♪ 120 00:08:58,686 --> 00:09:01,733 [Walker growling] 121 00:09:01,776 --> 00:09:06,085 ♪ 122 00:09:06,128 --> 00:09:08,304 [Thud] 123 00:09:08,348 --> 00:09:10,698 [Growling continues] 124 00:09:10,742 --> 00:09:20,708 ♪ 125 00:09:20,752 --> 00:09:30,022 ♪ 126 00:09:30,065 --> 00:09:32,154 [Lighter clicks] 127 00:09:32,198 --> 00:09:34,243 [Glass shatters] 128 00:09:34,287 --> 00:09:36,289 [Grunting] 129 00:09:36,332 --> 00:09:45,951 ♪ 130 00:09:45,994 --> 00:09:48,823 [Footsteps approach] 131 00:09:48,867 --> 00:09:50,129 ♪ 132 00:09:54,046 --> 00:09:57,571 [Insects chirping] 133 00:09:57,615 --> 00:10:00,922 [Vultures screeching] 134 00:10:00,966 --> 00:10:10,932 ♪ 135 00:10:10,976 --> 00:10:13,979 ♪ 136 00:10:14,022 --> 00:10:17,373 Lord, you are my refuge and my strength... 137 00:10:17,417 --> 00:10:19,811 My refuge and my strength... 138 00:10:19,854 --> 00:10:21,813 My refuge... 139 00:10:21,856 --> 00:10:31,823 ♪ 140 00:10:31,866 --> 00:10:33,346 ♪ 141 00:10:33,389 --> 00:10:36,697 [Breathing heavily] 142 00:10:36,741 --> 00:10:40,440 ♪ 143 00:10:40,483 --> 00:10:42,834 [Grunts] 144 00:10:42,877 --> 00:10:47,490 [Breathing heavily] 145 00:10:47,534 --> 00:10:57,500 ♪ 146 00:10:57,544 --> 00:11:05,552 ♪ 147 00:11:26,225 --> 00:11:27,661 [Clattering] 148 00:11:27,705 --> 00:11:33,362 [Rats squeaking] 149 00:11:34,929 --> 00:11:44,896 ♪ 150 00:11:44,939 --> 00:11:48,160 ♪ 151 00:11:48,203 --> 00:11:50,205 [Gasps] Alden. 152 00:11:50,249 --> 00:11:52,033 Maggie. 153 00:11:52,077 --> 00:11:56,777 ♪ 154 00:11:56,821 --> 00:11:59,258 [Grunting] 155 00:11:59,301 --> 00:12:09,268 ♪ 156 00:12:09,311 --> 00:12:18,799 ♪ 157 00:12:18,843 --> 00:12:21,019 ♪ 158 00:12:21,062 --> 00:12:22,672 [Groans] 159 00:12:22,716 --> 00:12:25,327 ♪ 160 00:12:25,371 --> 00:12:27,416 [Body thuds] 161 00:12:27,460 --> 00:12:28,809 [Alden screams] 162 00:12:28,853 --> 00:12:30,419 ♪ 163 00:12:30,463 --> 00:12:31,986 [Groans] 164 00:12:32,030 --> 00:12:34,293 ♪ 165 00:12:34,336 --> 00:12:36,077 [Explosion] 166 00:12:36,121 --> 00:12:38,601 ♪ 167 00:12:38,645 --> 00:12:41,909 [Coughing] 168 00:12:41,953 --> 00:12:51,484 ♪ 169 00:12:51,527 --> 00:12:55,227 ♪ 170 00:12:55,270 --> 00:12:56,706 Jesus. 171 00:12:56,750 --> 00:12:58,186 ♪ 172 00:12:58,230 --> 00:12:59,927 Let me see? 173 00:12:59,971 --> 00:13:02,147 Sure thing, boss. 174 00:13:02,190 --> 00:13:06,934 ♪ 175 00:13:06,978 --> 00:13:08,588 That good, huh? 176 00:13:08,631 --> 00:13:10,982 You think you can walk? 177 00:13:11,025 --> 00:13:12,722 Not gonna know until we try.Whoa, whoa. 178 00:13:12,766 --> 00:13:15,421 [Groans]You're not seriously thinking that we keep going. 179 00:13:15,464 --> 00:13:16,944 They'll be back. We gotta keep moving. 180 00:13:16,988 --> 00:13:19,817 Alright, wait. What exactly is the plan here? 181 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:21,340 The plan doesn't change. 182 00:13:21,383 --> 00:13:22,776 We need that food. 183 00:13:22,820 --> 00:13:24,865 We get to the radio tower, find the supply house, 184 00:13:24,909 --> 00:13:26,345 and wait for the others. 185 00:13:26,388 --> 00:13:29,174 And what if the others are dead? 186 00:13:29,217 --> 00:13:31,785 Listen, I know theatrics. 187 00:13:31,829 --> 00:13:33,134 Those people, they just told us 188 00:13:33,178 --> 00:13:35,006 exactly how insane they are. 189 00:13:35,049 --> 00:13:36,616 We can't be on a road. 190 00:13:36,659 --> 00:13:39,184 We can't be on anyroad that they could use. 191 00:13:39,227 --> 00:13:40,576 It's a shit plan. 192 00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:42,187 Then you tell me a better one 193 00:13:42,230 --> 00:13:44,145 that doesn't starve us all. 194 00:13:44,189 --> 00:13:45,799 ♪ 195 00:13:45,843 --> 00:13:47,409 Right. 196 00:13:47,453 --> 00:13:48,976 I am on your side, Maggie. 197 00:13:49,020 --> 00:13:51,326 Then help me with him. 198 00:13:51,370 --> 00:13:55,896 ♪ 199 00:13:55,940 --> 00:13:57,855 2, 3, go. 200 00:13:57,898 --> 00:14:03,861 ♪ 201 00:14:07,908 --> 00:14:09,518 [Birds chirping] 202 00:14:29,669 --> 00:14:31,149 No. 203 00:14:31,192 --> 00:14:34,239 Not unless you want Coco tripping the light fantastic. 204 00:14:34,282 --> 00:14:37,068 Yeah, but just for like a week, tops, right? 205 00:14:37,111 --> 00:14:39,070 [Chuckles] 206 00:14:39,113 --> 00:14:40,810 You good?Yeah. 207 00:14:40,854 --> 00:14:43,857 Yeah, it's just that Gabriel's on a mission, 208 00:14:43,901 --> 00:14:45,903 and I'm over being stuck in the house. 209 00:14:47,730 --> 00:14:49,950 Why? What're you guys doing? 210 00:14:49,994 --> 00:14:59,960 ♪ 211 00:15:00,004 --> 00:15:05,444 ♪ 212 00:15:05,487 --> 00:15:07,968 Wait. 213 00:15:08,012 --> 00:15:17,978 ♪ 214 00:15:18,022 --> 00:15:21,373 ♪ 215 00:15:21,416 --> 00:15:23,157 [Horse neighs] 216 00:15:23,201 --> 00:15:28,423 ♪ 217 00:15:28,467 --> 00:15:31,470 Damn it![Horse neighs] 218 00:15:31,513 --> 00:15:32,950 Fourth time's the charm. 219 00:15:32,993 --> 00:15:34,952 Let's get a move on. 220 00:15:42,524 --> 00:15:44,135 You okay? 221 00:15:44,178 --> 00:15:46,572 I'll be better when this is done. 222 00:15:51,011 --> 00:15:53,709 I've been having dreams about Abraham recently. 223 00:15:53,753 --> 00:15:55,146 Yeah? 224 00:15:55,189 --> 00:15:57,539 Yeah, he's trying to tell me something. 225 00:15:57,583 --> 00:16:00,368 I know it's something important, something I'm supposed to do. 226 00:16:00,412 --> 00:16:02,544 But I can't hear him most of the time, 227 00:16:02,588 --> 00:16:04,764 and just when I'm about to... 228 00:16:04,807 --> 00:16:08,681 he, um -- he gets shot in the head. 229 00:16:08,724 --> 00:16:10,988 Well, that's dark. 230 00:16:11,031 --> 00:16:13,555 Yeah, I don't know why I just told you that. 231 00:16:13,599 --> 00:16:15,514 No, I get it. 232 00:16:15,557 --> 00:16:17,255 It used to freak me out, 233 00:16:17,298 --> 00:16:20,345 but now I think it's a message for us, for Alexandria. 234 00:16:20,388 --> 00:16:23,000 What do you think he's trying to say? 235 00:16:23,043 --> 00:16:24,566 I don't know. 236 00:16:24,610 --> 00:16:29,789 You know, if a horse lets you touch its ear, 237 00:16:29,832 --> 00:16:32,357 it means it trusts you. 238 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,142 I read that once. 239 00:16:35,186 --> 00:16:38,580 You think we'll get them back? 240 00:16:38,624 --> 00:16:41,322 Horses are wild creatures. 241 00:16:41,366 --> 00:16:43,194 You never know. 242 00:16:43,237 --> 00:16:46,545 [Walkers growling] 243 00:16:49,417 --> 00:16:52,725 It's 2 miles. It's further than I thought. 244 00:16:54,814 --> 00:16:57,034 We better get moving. 245 00:16:57,077 --> 00:16:58,774 Holding your hand's not gonna help me walk any faster. 246 00:16:58,818 --> 00:17:00,385 Yeah? Does the thought of one of those things 247 00:17:00,428 --> 00:17:02,039 ripping your face off do it for you? 248 00:17:02,082 --> 00:17:04,084 If you're scared, why don't you 249 00:17:04,128 --> 00:17:06,391 make yourself useful and go kill 'em? 250 00:17:06,434 --> 00:17:10,221 [Screaming, walkers growling] 251 00:17:10,264 --> 00:17:13,615 Really? So we're just gonna go towards the screaming? 252 00:17:13,659 --> 00:17:15,878 Cool. 253 00:17:15,922 --> 00:17:20,274 ♪ 254 00:17:20,318 --> 00:17:23,973 [Growling continues] 255 00:17:24,017 --> 00:17:27,629 ♪ 256 00:17:27,673 --> 00:17:29,805 Agatha! 257 00:17:29,849 --> 00:17:34,636 ♪ 258 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,074 Maggie. It's Duncan. 259 00:17:37,117 --> 00:17:47,084 ♪ 260 00:17:47,127 --> 00:17:52,045 ♪ 261 00:17:52,089 --> 00:17:54,221 [Sighs] 262 00:17:54,265 --> 00:17:56,528 Duncan. 263 00:17:57,877 --> 00:18:07,843 ♪ 264 00:18:07,887 --> 00:18:10,498 ♪ 265 00:18:10,542 --> 00:18:12,848 Duncan. 266 00:18:12,892 --> 00:18:15,460 ♪ 267 00:18:15,503 --> 00:18:18,898 I'm so sorry. 268 00:18:18,941 --> 00:18:22,293 For all of it. 269 00:18:22,336 --> 00:18:24,686 Why? 270 00:18:24,730 --> 00:18:27,689 We were good. 271 00:18:27,733 --> 00:18:29,865 We were lucky. 272 00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:32,303 ♪ 273 00:18:32,346 --> 00:18:34,653 [Sniffles] For a little while. 274 00:18:34,696 --> 00:18:36,655 [Sniffles] 275 00:18:36,698 --> 00:18:39,875 ♪ 276 00:18:39,919 --> 00:18:42,269 Make sure she gets home. 277 00:18:42,313 --> 00:18:44,315 Promise. 278 00:18:44,358 --> 00:18:53,889 ♪ 279 00:18:53,933 --> 00:19:03,464 ♪ 280 00:19:03,508 --> 00:19:13,474 ♪ 281 00:19:13,518 --> 00:19:18,000 ♪ 282 00:19:18,044 --> 00:19:20,481 [Knife plunges] 283 00:19:20,525 --> 00:19:24,181 ♪ 284 00:19:27,793 --> 00:19:31,057 [Birds chirping] 285 00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:35,366 Carol: This way. 286 00:19:37,237 --> 00:19:42,503 ♪ 287 00:19:42,547 --> 00:19:45,898 [Flies buzzing] 288 00:19:45,941 --> 00:19:55,908 ♪ 289 00:19:55,951 --> 00:20:00,217 ♪ 290 00:20:00,260 --> 00:20:02,393 Kelly: No. 291 00:20:02,436 --> 00:20:04,699 No. [Sniffles] 292 00:20:04,743 --> 00:20:06,745 It can't be. 293 00:20:06,788 --> 00:20:08,964 It's okay. 294 00:20:09,008 --> 00:20:14,231 ♪ 295 00:20:14,274 --> 00:20:16,407 We'll keep looking for the rest. 296 00:20:16,450 --> 00:20:18,800 They'll stay close to the water. 297 00:20:18,844 --> 00:20:21,150 Not if it's full of corpses they won't. 298 00:20:21,194 --> 00:20:23,240 Carol, it's getting late. 299 00:20:23,283 --> 00:20:25,764 ♪ 300 00:20:25,807 --> 00:20:27,592 She's right. 301 00:20:27,635 --> 00:20:29,202 We don't have to do this right now. 302 00:20:29,246 --> 00:20:30,769 Let's come back tomorrow. 303 00:20:30,812 --> 00:20:34,251 No, Alexandria needed these horses yesterday. 304 00:20:34,294 --> 00:20:36,818 ♪ 305 00:20:36,862 --> 00:20:38,820 Carol... 306 00:20:38,864 --> 00:20:48,830 ♪ 307 00:20:48,874 --> 00:20:57,622 ♪ 308 00:20:57,665 --> 00:20:59,493 Let's go home. 309 00:20:59,537 --> 00:21:06,457 ♪ 310 00:21:17,468 --> 00:21:19,644 We'll try again. 311 00:21:19,687 --> 00:21:21,950 Next time. 312 00:21:23,865 --> 00:21:25,476 Hey. 313 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:27,652 Maybe not. 314 00:21:27,695 --> 00:21:37,662 ♪ 315 00:21:37,705 --> 00:21:47,672 ♪ 316 00:21:47,715 --> 00:21:50,892 ♪ 317 00:21:50,936 --> 00:21:52,981 Dope. [Chuckles] 318 00:21:53,025 --> 00:21:58,857 ♪ 319 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:01,512 Rosita: They're headed towards the dairy farm. 320 00:22:01,555 --> 00:22:04,079 And?The dairy farm's got paddocks. 321 00:22:04,123 --> 00:22:05,603 We can pen them in. 322 00:22:05,646 --> 00:22:07,518 Come on. Let's go. 323 00:22:07,561 --> 00:22:16,831 ♪ 324 00:22:16,875 --> 00:22:18,355 ♪ 325 00:22:18,398 --> 00:22:20,922 Easy now. Easy now. 326 00:22:20,966 --> 00:22:22,707 ♪ 327 00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:25,710 [Horse neighs] 328 00:22:25,753 --> 00:22:32,499 ♪ 329 00:22:32,543 --> 00:22:34,719 Drop the lassos. 330 00:22:34,762 --> 00:22:36,111 Why? 331 00:22:36,155 --> 00:22:37,939 Just do it. 332 00:22:37,983 --> 00:22:47,427 ♪ 333 00:22:47,471 --> 00:22:49,168 ♪ 334 00:22:49,211 --> 00:22:51,562 They're not running. 335 00:22:51,605 --> 00:22:53,390 ♪ 336 00:22:53,433 --> 00:22:55,566 I think they want to come home. 337 00:22:56,567 --> 00:22:58,264 [Clicks tongue] 338 00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:01,963 [Clicks tongue] 339 00:23:02,007 --> 00:23:03,443 Hey. 340 00:23:03,487 --> 00:23:08,013 [Horse snorts] 341 00:23:09,057 --> 00:23:11,886 Whoa. 342 00:23:11,930 --> 00:23:21,896 ♪ 343 00:23:21,940 --> 00:23:24,421 ♪ 344 00:23:24,464 --> 00:23:27,772 Nicholls: Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, 345 00:23:27,815 --> 00:23:32,211 I will fear no evil, for thou art with me. 346 00:23:32,254 --> 00:23:35,997 Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, 347 00:23:36,041 --> 00:23:41,307 I will fear no evil, for thou art with me. 348 00:23:47,444 --> 00:23:50,316 You move slower than I thought you would. 349 00:23:52,797 --> 00:23:56,453 Don't be scared. 350 00:23:56,496 --> 00:23:58,716 I'm not. 351 00:24:00,457 --> 00:24:02,546 We have been blessed. 352 00:24:04,286 --> 00:24:05,984 I... 353 00:24:06,027 --> 00:24:08,987 I have been blessed. 354 00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:11,468 You have a funny definition of blessed. 355 00:24:13,034 --> 00:24:17,256 But it is you who has come for me. 356 00:24:17,299 --> 00:24:19,476 Will you pray for me? 357 00:24:23,523 --> 00:24:26,439 You tried to kill my friends. 358 00:24:26,483 --> 00:24:29,268 Yes. 359 00:24:29,311 --> 00:24:31,488 And they tried to kill me. 360 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,447 Pray for me. 361 00:24:34,491 --> 00:24:37,755 Even your enemies deserve that much. 362 00:24:42,107 --> 00:24:44,196 I thought you were a man of God. 363 00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:53,292 ♪ 364 00:24:53,335 --> 00:24:55,686 God isn't here anymore. 365 00:24:55,729 --> 00:24:58,297 ♪ 366 00:24:58,340 --> 00:25:01,692 [Walkers growling] 367 00:25:06,348 --> 00:25:08,612 Twice as many as before. 368 00:25:08,655 --> 00:25:12,529 We need to rethink your plan, Maggie. 369 00:25:12,572 --> 00:25:15,009 You're a free man, Negan. You wanna go? 370 00:25:15,053 --> 00:25:16,663 Go. 371 00:25:16,707 --> 00:25:18,883 I can help you. 372 00:25:18,926 --> 00:25:21,538 You know, your friends, they trusted me. 373 00:25:21,581 --> 00:25:24,323 You were gone for a long time. 374 00:25:24,366 --> 00:25:27,544 Things change. People change. 375 00:25:27,587 --> 00:25:29,110 No. 376 00:25:29,154 --> 00:25:31,809 Maybe you've got them fooled, but not me. 377 00:25:33,593 --> 00:25:37,510 Stop pretending you're one of us, Negan. 378 00:25:37,554 --> 00:25:39,817 Maybe you even believe it. 379 00:25:39,860 --> 00:25:41,340 But you're probably as good at lying to yourself 380 00:25:41,383 --> 00:25:43,211 as you are to everybody else. 381 00:25:43,255 --> 00:25:46,040 [Walkers growling] 382 00:26:01,186 --> 00:26:03,318 You okay, Maggie? 383 00:26:03,362 --> 00:26:04,624 Yeah. 384 00:26:04,668 --> 00:26:06,931 I can handle Negan. 385 00:26:06,974 --> 00:26:09,455 I wasn't talking about Negan. 386 00:26:14,591 --> 00:26:17,332 This can't be what you thought you'd be coming home to. 387 00:26:17,376 --> 00:26:20,945 It can't be what you told Hershel he'd see. 388 00:26:20,988 --> 00:26:25,384 You know, not much surprises me anymore. 389 00:26:25,427 --> 00:26:27,778 Except Hilltop. 390 00:26:27,821 --> 00:26:29,954 It's not the place I told Hershel about. 391 00:26:29,997 --> 00:26:31,956 Hold on a sec. 392 00:26:31,999 --> 00:26:36,482 [Walkers growling] 393 00:26:40,442 --> 00:26:43,707 You know, I'm not sure much surprises him anymore, either. 394 00:26:47,667 --> 00:26:49,713 You'll build it back up, 395 00:26:49,756 --> 00:26:51,976 better than it was before. 396 00:26:52,019 --> 00:26:54,369 Wewill. 397 00:26:54,413 --> 00:26:56,415 Sure. 398 00:26:56,458 --> 00:26:58,591 We'll get it done. 399 00:26:58,635 --> 00:26:59,853 At least by the time 400 00:26:59,897 --> 00:27:02,160 that Adam is old enough to remember. 401 00:27:02,203 --> 00:27:03,814 [Chuckles] 402 00:27:03,857 --> 00:27:07,339 I leave for one minute, and you're raising a kid. 403 00:27:09,471 --> 00:27:10,951 Maggie, if I, uh... 404 00:27:10,995 --> 00:27:13,301 We'll start when we get back, okay? 405 00:27:16,696 --> 00:27:21,396 The good news is, he lives in Alexandria, so... 406 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,703 small wins.Mm-hmm. 407 00:27:23,747 --> 00:27:25,749 ♪ 408 00:27:25,792 --> 00:27:30,188 [Walker growling] 409 00:27:30,231 --> 00:27:32,581 What the hell? 410 00:27:32,625 --> 00:27:40,067 ♪ 411 00:27:40,111 --> 00:27:43,418 [Growling continues] 412 00:27:43,462 --> 00:27:49,947 ♪ 413 00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:52,253 [Walkers growling] 414 00:27:52,297 --> 00:27:58,520 ♪ 415 00:27:58,564 --> 00:27:59,739 This way. 416 00:27:59,783 --> 00:28:02,046 Come on! 417 00:28:02,089 --> 00:28:12,056 ♪ 418 00:28:12,099 --> 00:28:13,622 Let's go. 419 00:28:13,666 --> 00:28:15,624 [Growling continues] 420 00:28:15,668 --> 00:28:19,672 ♪ 421 00:28:19,716 --> 00:28:21,065 I got him. 422 00:28:21,108 --> 00:28:30,857 ♪ 423 00:28:30,901 --> 00:28:36,471 ♪ 424 00:28:36,515 --> 00:28:39,213 [Screaming] 425 00:28:39,257 --> 00:28:41,215 Agatha! 426 00:28:41,259 --> 00:28:43,609 [Grunts] 427 00:28:43,652 --> 00:28:44,958 ♪ 428 00:28:45,002 --> 00:28:46,960 Go! Just go! No! Come on! 429 00:28:47,004 --> 00:28:48,483 Run! No! 430 00:28:48,527 --> 00:28:51,399 Run! No! 431 00:28:51,443 --> 00:28:52,966 Agatha, no! 432 00:28:53,010 --> 00:28:54,838 [Screaming] 433 00:28:54,881 --> 00:28:57,144 No! Get off! 434 00:28:57,188 --> 00:28:58,885 ♪ 435 00:28:58,929 --> 00:29:00,757 No! No! No! No! No! 436 00:29:11,855 --> 00:29:15,554 [Indistinct conversations] 437 00:29:15,597 --> 00:29:17,556 Woman: Look! They're back! 438 00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:19,079 They've got the horses! 439 00:29:19,123 --> 00:29:26,608 ♪ 440 00:29:26,652 --> 00:29:29,568 Oh, my God! 441 00:29:29,611 --> 00:29:32,310 [Chuckles] 442 00:29:32,353 --> 00:29:36,009 I'll go get Aaron. 443 00:29:36,053 --> 00:29:46,019 ♪ 444 00:29:46,063 --> 00:29:47,368 ♪ 445 00:29:47,412 --> 00:29:48,805 Alright, I'm out. 446 00:29:52,417 --> 00:29:55,072 Bye. 447 00:29:57,596 --> 00:30:01,600 ♪ 448 00:30:01,643 --> 00:30:04,168 Very good boy. 449 00:30:04,211 --> 00:30:05,560 ♪ 450 00:30:05,604 --> 00:30:07,998 Hey, Carol. 451 00:30:08,041 --> 00:30:09,390 Can we talk? 452 00:30:09,434 --> 00:30:11,001 Yeah, sure. 453 00:30:11,044 --> 00:30:14,395 I know what you're doing, and I want you to stop. 454 00:30:14,439 --> 00:30:16,397 Sorry? 455 00:30:16,441 --> 00:30:19,009 You're giving Kelly false hope. 456 00:30:19,052 --> 00:30:20,837 I-I don't understand. 457 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,577 Yes, you do. 458 00:30:22,621 --> 00:30:24,405 You don't think Connie's alive. 459 00:30:24,449 --> 00:30:28,018 You just can't accept what it means if she's not. 460 00:30:28,061 --> 00:30:29,454 Well, you're Connie's family. 461 00:30:29,497 --> 00:30:31,760 I would think you'd want to know either way. 462 00:30:31,804 --> 00:30:33,850 I want my family to heal. 463 00:30:33,893 --> 00:30:36,026 All that's left of it. 464 00:30:36,069 --> 00:30:38,158 Kelly looks up to you. 465 00:30:38,202 --> 00:30:41,335 Carol, I'm sorry for whatever you're going through, 466 00:30:41,379 --> 00:30:44,164 but I'm asking you, I'm begging you, 467 00:30:44,208 --> 00:30:48,734 whatever doing or telling her, stop. 468 00:30:48,777 --> 00:30:51,302 You're just making it harder. 469 00:30:58,265 --> 00:31:00,180 ♪ 470 00:31:00,224 --> 00:31:03,140 Come on, buddy. 471 00:31:04,663 --> 00:31:05,925 ♪ 472 00:31:05,969 --> 00:31:07,840 [Clicks tongue] 473 00:31:07,884 --> 00:31:09,059 [Horse snorts] 474 00:31:09,102 --> 00:31:11,235 There you go. 475 00:31:11,278 --> 00:31:21,245 ♪ 476 00:31:21,288 --> 00:31:31,255 ♪ 477 00:31:31,298 --> 00:31:41,265 ♪ 478 00:31:41,308 --> 00:31:51,275 ♪ 479 00:31:51,318 --> 00:32:01,285 ♪ 480 00:32:01,328 --> 00:32:10,947 ♪ 481 00:32:10,990 --> 00:32:20,957 ♪ 482 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,697 ♪ 483 00:32:22,741 --> 00:32:26,919 [Indistinct conversations, dishes clanging] 484 00:32:26,963 --> 00:32:29,443 [Laughter in distance] 485 00:32:45,982 --> 00:32:48,767 Go on. 486 00:32:48,810 --> 00:32:52,162 No, thank you. 487 00:32:52,205 --> 00:32:56,166 Just take really small bites. 488 00:32:56,209 --> 00:32:59,125 The smaller, the better. 489 00:32:59,169 --> 00:33:01,127 You've eaten it before? 490 00:33:01,171 --> 00:33:03,521 Hershel: Yeah, on the road, with my mom. 491 00:33:03,564 --> 00:33:05,784 You eat what you find. 492 00:33:11,007 --> 00:33:13,183 You ever been on the road? 493 00:33:13,226 --> 00:33:14,488 Not like that. 494 00:33:14,532 --> 00:33:17,013 Well, you meet a lot of different people. 495 00:33:19,580 --> 00:33:22,148 Just chew it fast. 496 00:33:22,192 --> 00:33:24,585 It's not that bad. 497 00:33:24,629 --> 00:33:26,674 Not like the spiders. 498 00:33:34,073 --> 00:33:37,598 Wanna see if we can pet a pony? 499 00:33:37,642 --> 00:33:40,036 [Gasps] Hey. Look. 500 00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:42,038 They're interested. 501 00:33:44,388 --> 00:33:47,826 Do you want to pet a pony? [Chuckles] 502 00:33:47,869 --> 00:33:49,915 Beautiful, right? Look. Look. 503 00:33:51,308 --> 00:33:55,051 [Coco coos] 504 00:33:55,094 --> 00:34:05,061 ♪ 505 00:34:05,104 --> 00:34:08,325 ♪ 506 00:34:08,368 --> 00:34:10,805 [Coco whimpers] 507 00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:20,815 ♪ 508 00:34:20,859 --> 00:34:30,825 ♪ 509 00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:40,835 ♪ 510 00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:49,366 ♪ 511 00:34:49,409 --> 00:34:50,889 Ready? 512 00:34:50,932 --> 00:34:52,673 Carol: Mm-hmm. 513 00:34:52,717 --> 00:35:02,683 ♪ 514 00:35:02,727 --> 00:35:07,688 ♪ 515 00:35:07,732 --> 00:35:10,256 Goddamn shit. 516 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:13,172 [Spits] 517 00:35:13,216 --> 00:35:14,608 What? 518 00:35:14,652 --> 00:35:17,133 You like the taste of crap cardboard? 519 00:35:17,176 --> 00:35:19,047 ♪ 520 00:35:19,091 --> 00:35:21,049 [Vulture screeching] 521 00:35:21,093 --> 00:35:23,878 We should get back in the woods. 522 00:35:23,922 --> 00:35:25,880 The road is faster. 523 00:35:25,924 --> 00:35:27,491 He's right. The woods have cover. 524 00:35:27,534 --> 00:35:30,276 It's safer. 525 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,148 Let's go there. 526 00:35:32,191 --> 00:35:33,497 No. 527 00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:35,281 We need to keep moving. 528 00:35:35,325 --> 00:35:37,631 No, we need a break. 529 00:35:37,675 --> 00:35:47,641 ♪ 530 00:35:47,685 --> 00:35:56,389 ♪ 531 00:35:56,433 --> 00:35:57,825 ♪ 532 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,837 We'll rest here for a while, and then we'll head out. 533 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,540 I know what you're thinking. 534 00:36:16,583 --> 00:36:18,455 The answer is no. 535 00:36:24,243 --> 00:36:26,202 He's right, Maggie. 536 00:36:28,595 --> 00:36:30,945 I'm slowing you down. 537 00:36:30,989 --> 00:36:32,773 Nope. 538 00:36:32,817 --> 00:36:34,079 We're fine. 539 00:36:34,122 --> 00:36:37,430 Maybe now. 540 00:36:37,474 --> 00:36:40,390 If these guys are anything like you say they are, 541 00:36:40,433 --> 00:36:42,479 then it's gonna get worse. 542 00:36:46,265 --> 00:36:49,225 I'm dead weight. 543 00:36:49,268 --> 00:36:50,791 We all know it. 544 00:36:50,835 --> 00:36:52,315 We'll help you. 545 00:36:52,358 --> 00:36:54,882 [Chuckles] 546 00:37:03,587 --> 00:37:07,243 You wanna know why I walked away from him... 547 00:37:07,286 --> 00:37:10,246 and everything he stood for... 548 00:37:10,289 --> 00:37:12,248 joined up with you? 549 00:37:15,076 --> 00:37:18,036 It's 'cause I trust you... 550 00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:20,821 to do the right thing. 551 00:37:20,865 --> 00:37:23,911 No matter how hard it is or how much it costs you. 552 00:37:25,870 --> 00:37:28,699 The supplies -- Maggie, look at me. 553 00:37:30,657 --> 00:37:34,574 The supplies are the only thing that matters now. 554 00:37:34,618 --> 00:37:37,273 Alexandria needs us to do this. 555 00:37:38,883 --> 00:37:41,625 They're waiting for us. 556 00:37:41,668 --> 00:37:44,584 Hershel and Judith. 557 00:37:44,628 --> 00:37:45,977 Adam... 558 00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:48,632 And Adam needs a father. 559 00:37:48,675 --> 00:37:52,026 You think I'm gonna make it out of that town alive like this? 560 00:37:52,070 --> 00:37:53,854 You left Gage. Leave me. 561 00:37:53,898 --> 00:37:56,814 Gage made his choice. 562 00:37:56,857 --> 00:37:59,033 And I'm making mine. 563 00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:01,471 ♪ 564 00:38:01,514 --> 00:38:02,863 No. 565 00:38:02,907 --> 00:38:05,431 Just... No. 566 00:38:05,475 --> 00:38:08,652 Maggie, if this plan fails... 567 00:38:08,695 --> 00:38:10,610 then everything you've worked for, 568 00:38:10,654 --> 00:38:13,961 everything you want for the future, 569 00:38:14,005 --> 00:38:15,485 it dies with it. 570 00:38:15,528 --> 00:38:21,317 ♪ 571 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,493 And then what happens to Adam? 572 00:38:23,536 --> 00:38:25,495 Okay. 573 00:38:25,538 --> 00:38:27,497 It's not that simple. 574 00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:30,108 ♪ 575 00:38:30,151 --> 00:38:32,066 Yeah, it is. 576 00:38:32,110 --> 00:38:34,634 ♪ 577 00:38:34,678 --> 00:38:37,289 Negan: The sun is going down. 578 00:38:37,333 --> 00:38:39,335 Maggie... 579 00:38:39,378 --> 00:38:41,337 you have to make a decision. 580 00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:45,079 It's easy for you, isn't it? 581 00:38:45,123 --> 00:38:47,691 ♪ 582 00:38:47,734 --> 00:38:51,825 Being reckless with somebody else's life. 583 00:38:51,869 --> 00:38:57,657 ♪ 584 00:38:57,701 --> 00:38:59,137 But you don't get to decide 585 00:38:59,180 --> 00:39:02,096 who lives and who dies anymore. 586 00:39:02,140 --> 00:39:06,144 ♪ 587 00:39:06,187 --> 00:39:08,929 It's your fault. 588 00:39:08,973 --> 00:39:10,888 That we're here. 589 00:39:10,931 --> 00:39:13,151 ♪ 590 00:39:13,194 --> 00:39:16,372 It's your fault. 591 00:39:16,415 --> 00:39:19,113 Because you destroyed everything that we built. 592 00:39:19,157 --> 00:39:24,945 ♪ 593 00:39:24,989 --> 00:39:27,121 You still have to decide. 594 00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:37,131 ♪ 595 00:39:37,175 --> 00:39:45,966 ♪ 596 00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:49,317 [Sighs] 597 00:39:49,361 --> 00:39:58,239 ♪ 598 00:39:58,283 --> 00:39:59,719 ♪ 599 00:39:59,763 --> 00:40:01,982 Ma-- Maggie. 600 00:40:02,026 --> 00:40:06,596 ♪ 601 00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:08,598 Here. 602 00:40:08,641 --> 00:40:18,608 ♪ 603 00:40:18,651 --> 00:40:28,618 ♪ 604 00:40:28,661 --> 00:40:37,322 ♪ 605 00:40:37,365 --> 00:40:38,802 [Wood creaks] 606 00:40:38,845 --> 00:40:48,812 ♪ 607 00:40:48,855 --> 00:40:50,640 ♪ 608 00:40:50,683 --> 00:40:53,164 [Door creaks] 609 00:40:53,207 --> 00:40:56,472 ♪ 610 00:40:56,515 --> 00:40:58,865 You better be here when we get back. 611 00:40:58,909 --> 00:41:00,171 ♪ 612 00:41:00,214 --> 00:41:02,652 You better come back. 613 00:41:02,695 --> 00:41:04,175 ♪ 614 00:41:04,218 --> 00:41:06,656 [Door creaks] 615 00:41:06,699 --> 00:41:14,185 ♪ 616 00:41:14,228 --> 00:41:16,666 [Grunts] 617 00:41:16,709 --> 00:41:23,629 ♪ 618 00:41:23,673 --> 00:41:28,025 [Walker growling] 619 00:41:28,068 --> 00:41:38,035 ♪ 620 00:41:38,078 --> 00:41:48,045 ♪ 621 00:41:48,088 --> 00:41:58,055 ♪ 622 00:41:58,098 --> 00:42:08,065 ♪ 623 00:42:08,108 --> 00:42:10,546 ♪ 624 00:42:14,506 --> 00:42:15,681 Man: Do you feel that? 625 00:42:15,725 --> 00:42:17,291 All that chaos. 626 00:42:17,335 --> 00:42:20,468 ♪ 627 00:42:20,512 --> 00:42:23,471 Death, day after day. 628 00:42:23,515 --> 00:42:25,604 ♪ 629 00:42:25,648 --> 00:42:27,780 God is angry. 630 00:42:27,824 --> 00:42:31,915 ♪ 631 00:42:31,958 --> 00:42:34,613 I'm angry. 632 00:42:34,657 --> 00:42:37,311 make them feel our wrath. 633 00:42:37,355 --> 00:42:43,100 ♪ 634 00:42:44,014 --> 00:42:47,278 [Suspenseful music plays] 635 00:42:47,321 --> 00:42:49,715 ♪ 636 00:42:49,759 --> 00:42:52,413 This episode is pretty much a direct pickup 637 00:42:52,457 --> 00:42:53,545 from the previous episode, 638 00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:55,068 but we are really living 639 00:42:55,112 --> 00:42:57,331 in Maggie's point of view. 640 00:42:57,375 --> 00:42:58,811 Maggie's the one that kind of 641 00:42:58,855 --> 00:43:00,465 brought everybody on this mission 642 00:43:00,508 --> 00:43:04,861 and they're already off to this chaotic, intense start 643 00:43:04,904 --> 00:43:06,732 and they're realizing 644 00:43:06,776 --> 00:43:10,257 just how scary and dangerous these Reapers are. 645 00:43:10,301 --> 00:43:12,172 There's so much going on and, you know, 646 00:43:12,216 --> 00:43:13,957 they can all barely see each other. 647 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,047 Everything's happening in these kind of flashes and blurs. 648 00:43:17,090 --> 00:43:18,526 There's sort of this helplessness, 649 00:43:18,570 --> 00:43:20,137 in some ways, to our people, 650 00:43:20,180 --> 00:43:21,965 like they feel like there's not much they can do, 651 00:43:22,008 --> 00:43:25,185 other than just try to scramble and survive it as best they can. 652 00:43:25,229 --> 00:43:27,666 And that's already weighing heavy on Maggie 653 00:43:27,710 --> 00:43:29,102 as we start the episode. 654 00:43:29,146 --> 00:43:36,806 ♪ 655 00:43:36,849 --> 00:43:39,286 Carol and Aaron are a little bit at odds 656 00:43:39,330 --> 00:43:42,986 and I think, in a lot of ways, it's just important to remember 657 00:43:43,029 --> 00:43:45,553 that Carol and Aaron are friends. 658 00:43:45,597 --> 00:43:48,513 They are basically on the same side, 659 00:43:48,556 --> 00:43:50,907 but reasonable people can disagree 660 00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:53,605 about what is the best way to move forward 661 00:43:53,649 --> 00:43:56,347 and I think Carol is really in a place 662 00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:58,828 where she's feeling like 663 00:43:58,871 --> 00:44:01,352 so much of what has happened to Alexandria 664 00:44:01,395 --> 00:44:03,615 is indirectly her fault. 665 00:44:03,659 --> 00:44:05,008 You know, you can't really say 666 00:44:05,051 --> 00:44:07,619 that it wasn't going to happen, anyway. 667 00:44:07,663 --> 00:44:09,490 I mean, the Whisperers were always going to get 668 00:44:09,534 --> 00:44:12,493 into conflict with our people, but she's still working 669 00:44:12,537 --> 00:44:14,844 through everything that's happened with Connie 670 00:44:14,887 --> 00:44:17,716 and, you know, when she and Magna were lost in the cave, 671 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,633 as a result of the explosion that Carol caused. 672 00:44:21,677 --> 00:44:23,940 She just feels massive guilt every day. 673 00:44:23,983 --> 00:44:26,856 So she is dealing with that in her own way 674 00:44:26,899 --> 00:44:29,815 and I think Carol functions well as a lone wolf. 675 00:44:29,859 --> 00:44:34,385 She's always kind of had this instinct to go out and do things 676 00:44:34,428 --> 00:44:38,041 and think in ways that maybe everybody else isn't thinking, 677 00:44:38,084 --> 00:44:41,044 but sometimes it does put her in odds with her friends. 678 00:44:41,087 --> 00:44:42,132 There is love there. 679 00:44:42,175 --> 00:44:43,655 There is respect there. 680 00:44:43,699 --> 00:44:45,483 However, there's also frustration 681 00:44:45,526 --> 00:44:48,573 that it's just they can't get on the same page 682 00:44:48,616 --> 00:44:50,401 about how to address the problems. 683 00:44:50,444 --> 00:44:53,404 ♪ 684 00:44:53,447 --> 00:44:56,886 We really enjoy getting to see the kids on our show 685 00:44:56,929 --> 00:44:59,758 and to put them in interesting situations 686 00:44:59,802 --> 00:45:02,413 and see them also kind of grow up 687 00:45:02,456 --> 00:45:03,631 as they're working on the show. 688 00:45:03,675 --> 00:45:05,198 And we really wanted to see 689 00:45:05,242 --> 00:45:07,766 Judith and Hershel getting to interact together 690 00:45:07,810 --> 00:45:10,726 after they didn't grow up in the same community. 691 00:45:10,769 --> 00:45:12,771 There's a hopeful message in it, too, 692 00:45:12,815 --> 00:45:16,427 which is that children find ways to be resilient, 693 00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:17,863 even in the midst of a world 694 00:45:17,907 --> 00:45:19,517 that feels like it's breaking apart, 695 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,824 and that there is hope in the ways 696 00:45:21,867 --> 00:45:25,305 that they can find little spots of normalcy. 697 00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:28,047 And you also kind of get to have the perspective of, 698 00:45:28,091 --> 00:45:30,310 "Oh, the grownups, they're so [Laughs] annoying, 699 00:45:30,354 --> 00:45:31,659 in the way they do things." 700 00:45:31,703 --> 00:45:33,226 Like which I think is sort of 701 00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:35,576 a universal attitude that children have. 702 00:45:35,620 --> 00:45:37,056 I remember having that attitude. 703 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,885 Grownups are always running off doing things. 704 00:45:39,929 --> 00:45:41,669 "Promise I'll see you soon!" 705 00:45:41,713 --> 00:45:43,454 [Laughs]"Love you!" 706 00:45:43,497 --> 00:45:45,151 They were so charming together. 707 00:45:45,195 --> 00:45:48,067 They really seemed to have a great time doing that scene. 708 00:45:48,111 --> 00:45:50,069 [Thudding] 709 00:45:50,113 --> 00:45:51,114 Dang it! 710 00:45:51,157 --> 00:45:52,158 [Thud] 711 00:45:52,202 --> 00:45:53,812 ♪ 712 00:45:53,856 --> 00:45:55,945 We wanted to show Maggie 713 00:45:55,988 --> 00:45:59,252 in kind of this horror movie sequence, basically, 714 00:45:59,296 --> 00:46:02,168 where she's going down this staircase 715 00:46:02,212 --> 00:46:04,257 and she's trying to escape from the Reapers 716 00:46:04,301 --> 00:46:05,519 and not make any sound, 717 00:46:05,563 --> 00:46:07,260 but can barely see what she's doing 718 00:46:07,304 --> 00:46:10,873 and is trying to create little sound traps, 719 00:46:10,916 --> 00:46:13,397 so that she can hear them coming. 720 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,139 But the Reapers are sort of spooky 721 00:46:16,182 --> 00:46:20,491 and they're very sneaky and good at working in stealth, 722 00:46:20,534 --> 00:46:22,101 and so that was one of the things 723 00:46:22,145 --> 00:46:24,147 that we wanted to show with them in the sequence. 724 00:46:24,190 --> 00:46:27,585 I personally always feel like I'm going to get murdered 725 00:46:27,628 --> 00:46:29,500 in a staircase or like a parking lot. 726 00:46:29,543 --> 00:46:32,851 Those spaces can feel really, really terrifying sometimes 727 00:46:32,895 --> 00:46:34,810 and they're empty and dark. 728 00:46:34,853 --> 00:46:37,856 So we fully wanted to kind of play into that, 729 00:46:37,900 --> 00:46:40,250 that aspect of hearing like echoing steps, 730 00:46:40,293 --> 00:46:42,600 just not being able to see around the corner 731 00:46:42,643 --> 00:46:44,297 as you're moving up in the levels, 732 00:46:44,341 --> 00:46:46,734 that can feel really, really creepy. 733 00:46:46,778 --> 00:46:48,606 And, you know, it's also just fun 734 00:46:48,649 --> 00:46:52,305 to see Maggie just be awesome and be an awesome survivor. 735 00:46:52,349 --> 00:46:55,482 [Both grunting] 736 00:46:55,526 --> 00:46:57,571 Aah! 737 00:46:57,615 --> 00:46:58,834 [Clang] 738 00:46:58,877 --> 00:47:01,010 When Negan saves Maggie, I mean, 739 00:47:01,053 --> 00:47:04,100 I think he's accepted that, to get through this, 740 00:47:04,143 --> 00:47:05,928 I mean, Maggie's a really good fighter, too. 741 00:47:05,971 --> 00:47:07,364 He doesn't want to see her go. 742 00:47:07,407 --> 00:47:09,975 He's very, very drawn to people 743 00:47:10,019 --> 00:47:12,673 who are very strong and stubborn 744 00:47:12,717 --> 00:47:14,197 and have leadership qualities. 745 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:15,763 We've seen that throughout the years. 746 00:47:15,807 --> 00:47:17,243 In some ways, you might even say 747 00:47:17,287 --> 00:47:19,463 that was sort of his Achilles' heel, 748 00:47:19,506 --> 00:47:22,205 is that he was always thinking, 749 00:47:22,248 --> 00:47:26,296 "I can turn this person on my side 750 00:47:26,339 --> 00:47:28,733 and I like you because you're a badass 751 00:47:28,776 --> 00:47:30,126 and you tell it like it is 752 00:47:30,169 --> 00:47:32,171 and I like that you push up against me." 753 00:47:32,215 --> 00:47:34,217 And he's always trying to go like, "Come on! 754 00:47:34,260 --> 00:47:37,437 Like, now take all of that and just transfer it to my team. 755 00:47:37,481 --> 00:47:38,395 Like don't you get it? 756 00:47:38,438 --> 00:47:39,744 If we work together, 757 00:47:39,787 --> 00:47:41,441 it's all going to work out." 758 00:47:41,485 --> 00:47:42,878 So I think that that's actually 759 00:47:42,921 --> 00:47:44,792 kind of consistent with his character, 760 00:47:44,836 --> 00:47:49,928 is that, as much as he doesn't trust Maggie and fears her, 761 00:47:49,972 --> 00:47:53,105 when she does give him that gun in the subway, 762 00:47:53,149 --> 00:47:55,325 I think that that kind of triggers 763 00:47:55,368 --> 00:47:57,414 a little bit of a sense in him 764 00:47:57,457 --> 00:48:00,417 of like, "Alright, maybe I don't have to be afraid 765 00:48:00,460 --> 00:48:02,114 that she's going to shoot me in the head 766 00:48:02,158 --> 00:48:03,420 when the opportunity comes. 767 00:48:03,463 --> 00:48:05,770 Maybe she does find me valuable, 768 00:48:05,813 --> 00:48:09,252 and that's something that I can work with, in some kind of way." 769 00:48:09,295 --> 00:48:11,341 And so I think, when he saves her, 770 00:48:11,384 --> 00:48:13,256 he probably does it out of instinct... 771 00:48:13,299 --> 00:48:14,822 [Explosions] 772 00:48:14,866 --> 00:48:16,781 ...but I also think he's smart enough to think, 773 00:48:16,824 --> 00:48:19,262 "We are kind of in it together and we're stuck together, 774 00:48:19,305 --> 00:48:23,048 so like, let me see if I can get a favor from her, too," 775 00:48:23,092 --> 00:48:26,443 because he did pick her over Alden." 776 00:48:26,486 --> 00:48:28,662 You think you can walk? 777 00:48:28,706 --> 00:48:29,925 Not gonna know until we try. 778 00:48:29,968 --> 00:48:31,230 Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're not seriously 779 00:48:31,274 --> 00:48:33,972 -Aah! -thinking that we keep going. 780 00:48:34,016 --> 00:48:35,539 The plan doesn't change. 781 00:48:35,582 --> 00:48:37,323 We need that food. 782 00:48:37,367 --> 00:48:41,632 Negan is absolutely shocked that, after all this, 783 00:48:41,675 --> 00:48:43,199 Maggie wants to keep going. 784 00:48:43,242 --> 00:48:44,983 The interesting thing, with Negan, is 785 00:48:45,027 --> 00:48:48,900 this is not a guy that was an angel before the apocalypse, 786 00:48:48,944 --> 00:48:51,294 but neither was he a guy that was just like, 787 00:48:51,337 --> 00:48:54,210 "I actually want to shoot people up all the time." 788 00:48:54,253 --> 00:48:56,560 He, in fact, was like, "Let me try to kill 789 00:48:56,603 --> 00:49:00,346 the minimum number of people to make my point, 790 00:49:00,390 --> 00:49:02,392 and then, hopefully, you'll just fall in line 791 00:49:02,435 --> 00:49:03,610 and I don't have to deal with it." 792 00:49:03,654 --> 00:49:05,221 Like he'd rather just not deal with it. 793 00:49:05,264 --> 00:49:08,267 So I think, for Negan, he's kind of grumpy 794 00:49:08,311 --> 00:49:10,095 and he's like, "This is the army? 795 00:49:10,139 --> 00:49:12,706 This is the army that's going to go in against these people? 796 00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:14,317 That, clearly, 797 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,449 we're a little outmatched, in terms of skill set 798 00:49:16,493 --> 00:49:17,842 and there seems to be a lot of them. 799 00:49:17,885 --> 00:49:18,974 They seem to be really mad." 800 00:49:19,017 --> 00:49:20,323 Like, you know, 801 00:49:20,366 --> 00:49:21,977 his perspective's not wrong. 802 00:49:22,020 --> 00:49:25,241 It's a valid perspective, but he doesn't give 803 00:49:25,284 --> 00:49:27,156 his notes gently. I'll just say that. 804 00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:28,548 Those people, they just told us 805 00:49:28,592 --> 00:49:30,594 exactly how insane they are. 806 00:49:30,637 --> 00:49:32,204 We can't be on a road. 807 00:49:32,248 --> 00:49:34,990 We can't be on any road that they could use. 808 00:49:35,033 --> 00:49:37,079 It's a shit plan. 809 00:49:37,122 --> 00:49:39,559 By the time we get to that big scene 810 00:49:39,603 --> 00:49:41,474 with Negan and Maggie at the end 811 00:49:41,518 --> 00:49:43,172 and, you know, Alden's there 812 00:49:43,215 --> 00:49:45,696 and Maggie's going to make this heartbreaking choice 813 00:49:45,739 --> 00:49:48,177 that they do have to keep going and leave Alden, 814 00:49:48,220 --> 00:49:50,266 which she absolutely does not want to do, 815 00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:53,312 I think that, for Negan, he's a smart guy. 816 00:49:53,356 --> 00:49:56,794 He can see that she doesn't really want his advice. 817 00:49:56,837 --> 00:49:59,623 That doesn't mean he's going to stop giving it, altogether, 818 00:49:59,666 --> 00:50:02,452 but I do think he's kind of at a point where he realizes, 819 00:50:02,495 --> 00:50:05,498 if he's trying to push her too hard, here, 820 00:50:05,542 --> 00:50:07,935 all that's going to happen is she's going to get angry 821 00:50:07,979 --> 00:50:09,850 and it's going to delay, maybe, 822 00:50:09,894 --> 00:50:13,941 this choice that she knows herself she needs to make. 823 00:50:13,985 --> 00:50:15,900 He's pretty sure that she's going 824 00:50:15,943 --> 00:50:18,337 to make the choice to keep moving. 825 00:50:18,381 --> 00:50:20,165 He knows that she's mission-focused, 826 00:50:20,209 --> 00:50:23,386 but she kind of has to go through the emotion of it 827 00:50:23,429 --> 00:50:25,736 and it makes it even that much more heartbreaking, 828 00:50:25,779 --> 00:50:29,218 when the person who should be kind of panicking is like, 829 00:50:29,261 --> 00:50:32,090 "You know as well as I do what has to be done." 830 00:50:32,134 --> 00:50:34,266 And, at the heart of "The Walking Dead," 831 00:50:34,310 --> 00:50:37,356 it's about those hard choices 832 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,795 and sometimes our heroes make choices that they don't like. 833 00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:43,406 Sometimes they make the wrong choice 834 00:50:43,449 --> 00:50:45,147 and sometimes they make the choice 835 00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:47,105 that is right and feels good. 836 00:50:47,149 --> 00:50:49,455 But this is one of those ones where it just feels like 837 00:50:49,499 --> 00:50:52,110 there's no win in any situation. 838 00:50:52,154 --> 00:50:54,678 They just have to make the one that helps them 839 00:50:54,721 --> 00:50:56,636 do the most good for the most people. 840 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:05,428 ♪ 841 00:51:36,850 --> 00:51:41,420 ♪