My name is John.
I have an addiction to treasure hunting.
My things are owning me.
The hoarding has affected our relationship a lot.
Code enforcement said that I need to clean up
this whole house, or they're gonna put a lien up
for tens of thousands of dollars.
You're slowing me down.
I have a plan for this, let's go.
Put it in the pile of keep.
[intense music]
John is not allowing her into the house.
You could support me by not coming in right now.
I'm Andy, I like to collect things and sell things.
I got piles of junk, I got piles of scrap.
What else can I say? I got a pile of (bleep).
- Andy. - [Andy] Hi.
Hello, how are you?
It's been a couple years since I've seen Andy.
Did you take care of the aftercare that we gave you?
No, they said I had cancer,
and my world came crashing down.
[tense music]
[pensive music]
My name is John, and I like to take things apart
and see how they work, I like to fix things,
and things have become part
of my unmanageable life here in this house.
[tense music]
There's the thrill, to me, of the unknown.
I save things from going into the landfills
to put 'em back into the system.
Treasure hunting is one of my things
that I have an addiction to,
and that's made my life unmanageable.
[intense music]
I'm Andi, and I'm John's girlfriend.
John is one of the kindest men I have ever met.
He is sensitive, he's loving, he's giving.
He's a whole beautiful person.
I'm Dr. Tina Mays.
I'm a clinical psychologist
with a specialty in hoarding disorder.
I have been working with John, helping him declutter.
I was really, really happy
that he was seeing a hoarding therapist,
but I don't see very much progress in the house,
and that it is upsetting.
The hoarding has affected our relationship a lot.
My things are owning me.
They're owning me, and they rule me.
[tense music]
The code enforcement came by about 10 months ago
due to the complaints of the neighbors.
They said that I need to clean up this whole house,
property, all of it to be in compliance,
or they're going to put a lien on my house for the money
that it takes to clean it up,
which could be in the tens of thousands of dollars.
[tense music]
Yes, we are super excited to be here with you guys.
John, his beloved Andi,
Professor John here to support you,
and Charlie also to support you.
We are really excited to get started today.
We have a lot of work to do.
We have two ways to go.
You can make decisions about your stuff
and keep what you would like to, or the city
or the county can come in and they will make decisions,
and they're not gonna make decisions.
They're just gonna get rid of it all.
We have a short amount of time to make this happen.
Let's do this, let's get it done.
Let's go. [Andi laughing]
[tense music[
[indistinct chatter]
- What did you deem this to be? - [Andi] Trash.
Okay, so what do you think?
Dr. Mayes, come on over.
Yeah, some feces and stuff.
I need some gloves on.
And you see why, right, John?
Because it's covered in rat feces, right?
- Correct. - Okay.
So all right, that could be all trash.
All right, Charlie and Andi have deemed this
all to be trash.
Okay, well, they don't know that these are the parts
to make my downspout come and finish off.
The parts are still necessary.
So this is keep.
Do you have other things that would be,
that you wouldn't have to do a project for?
We've got all these stars in the sky.
Are we gonna keep it or give it away?
Well, there's gonna be other things
that I'd rather keep than this
that are gonna be in that category.
[Carolina] Can we scrap this?
[John] Yes, please, scrap, perfect.
John, keep your feet moving, keep moving.
[John] Keeping this.
Okay, keep moving.
- Yes, please, the cart. - [Carolina] Scrap?
- Or scrap, sorry. - Scrap.
- Last one? - [John] Keep.
All right, good job.
[John chuckling]
He did a really good job of really pushing through
and making some good decisions.
[tense music]
[Carolina] What about this?
[John] Keep.
Okay, keep that.
Trash.
- You guys got it? - [Worker] Got it.
[tense music]
Do you wanna keep this?
Yes, thank you very much, this is keep.
[Carolina] Hold on, hold on.
[John] I can take it to my storage.
You're giving yourself projects, though.
That's fine, I need to have some projects.
It's gonna be about putting things in picture frames.
I'm a little concerned, 'cause you are keeping a lot.
You're gonna be very concerned when you see
how many of these boxes I have like this.
You're slowing me down, I have a plan for this,
let's go, let's keep going.
I'm keeping this, put it in the pile of keep.
Let's go, come on, let's move.
- [Carolina] John, I actually-- - [John] Let's move.
John, I think because you're getting upset--
She said I could save this.
[tense music]
[sniffling] - I have my doubts.
You're scared.
I'm really scared, because I love him so much,
and I know he loves me,
but you can only survive so much in a relationship,
and I'm scared because I'm wondering
if our relationship will be able to move forward
if he takes steps backwards.
I just really wanna validate you,
and I'm so glad that you're letting it out,
and I'm so glad that you told me about this.
So thank you for your vulnerability
and being willing to share,
because this is so, so important.
Oh my gosh, it's the most important thing
in my life right now.
[Robin] Yeah.
[tense music]
The kitchen was the worst part of the whole house.
It's just nasty, really nasty, but it has to be done,
and so now I'm getting it done pretty fast.
[intense music]
I wanna thank you for letting us do your kitchen,
'cause that was really gross.
Yeah, you're right.
And now I can look forward to opening a cabinet
and maybe getting some non-expired cranberry juice.
- All right. - Thank you for trusting us.
You're welcome.
- I love you. - I trust you.
John finally delegated
some of the responsibility to Andi in the kitchen.
That was amazing.
I think that we all understand
that we have a certain amount of time.
Let's get to this, so I'm down, let's do this.
[tense music]
Trash those. - [Carolina] Trash those?
- Mm-hmm. - Okay.
- [John] Yeah, he's done. - Okay, trash.
[both laughing]
- This can go e-waste. - [Carolina] Yep.
[pensive music]
[Carolina] What about this?
[John] Trash.
[Andi] Oh, look, a bed. [all laughing]
- You happy? - Yes.
Good, good.
Yes, we just need to find some clean sheets.
Yeah, yeah.
[upbeat music]
[John] You guys ready for this?
Hello, John, Andi.
[laughing] Come on in.
[bright music]
Was it worth it?
Yeah, it's way worth it, oh my God.
This is a really amazing thing
that you and your family, and your friends,
your loving team were able to help you accomplish,
so congratulations.
Thank you so much.
I love you.
Thank you, honey, for bearing with me, you know?
He's so grateful and happy that he has a home.
It just made me cry.
[tender music]
[Andi gasps]
Wait, I just got transported to a different house.
[all laugh]
[bright music]
Oh my God!
Oh man, you guys, that's beautiful.
Oh my God, oh my God!
[Robin] Come on in.
[John] Thank you so much, you guys.
- Oh my God. - It's beautiful.
And you can sleep here tonight.
We will talk to code enforcement
and let them know that you made
huge strides in cleaning out your backyard,
cleaning up your house.
And that will hopefully either grant you an extension,
or they feel like you'll pass inspection.
Outside, you'll pass inspection.
Really?
- [Carolina] Yes. - Wow.
[all laugh] - Another round of applause.
[all clapping]
Oh my God.
It's huge.
This whole transformation is going
to move our relationship forward.
It's gonna be amazing, it's really gonna be amazing.
[bright music]
[balls clacking]
Ooh, you got one! [all laughing]
I'm so in love with Andi.
I'm so in wonder of like the possibilities without this type
of burden that don't include jumping in dumpsters, you know?
I'm amazed by what I've done,
and I'm gonna be even more amazed by what I can do.
I'm stoked.
[emotive music]
- [Carolina] Hey. - [Andi] Hey.
- It's good to see you. - So good to see you.
I'm Carolina Harvey, professional organizer,
specializing in hoarding.
How you been? - Pretty good.
- Yeah? - Yeah.
What's going on?
Um, it's been a rough road.
- [Carolina] Has it? - Yeah.
So how are things with John?
Um, up and down, a lot of up and down.
- Really? - [Andi] Yeah.
Can you talk to me about that?
What's up, what's down?
Well, this time, he won't let me in the house,
and it's been a couple months.
I think maybe he's feeling ashamed and embarrassed,
and doesn't wanna disappoint me.
I was a little disappointed to hear
that she wasn't allowed in the house.
I get where he's coming from.
I think, you know, he's embarrassed, and that's fair,
and I think he doesn't wanna disappoint someone he loves.
It's been a rough road.
We've been on again, off again.
We broke up for four months, and we got back together,
and we always break up over this, over the house.
I would love to find out some more about how he feels.
Let's see if we can get you in the house.
You can try.
Okay, let's take a look around.
See what's going on.
- All right. - All right, come on.
[tense music]
[knocking]
Hey. - Hi, Carolina.
- How are you? - Nice to see you.
[Carolina] Good to see you.
- Thanks for coming. - Yeah, of course.
- Yeah. - Can Andi come in with us?
Oh, well, hey, is Andi--
Hi, Andi, I wanna hug you. - Yes.
I don't wanna experience the guilt
and shame of disappointing Andi with my things.
I wanna put a time limit on myself, which I've never done
for this kind of thing with you.
In three weeks, I want to invite you back.
It's around my birthday time,
and maybe I can pass your inspection then, okay?
Okay.
So you could support me by not coming in right now.
- Okay. - Okay?
- Mm-hmm, I respect that. - I appreciate it.
So Carolina, are you all right with that?
Yeah, you don't wanna have shame and guilt.
Thanks very much, thanks for understanding.
Of course, show me around.
Let's go, okay.
I was really hoping
that Andi would be able to come in with us
so that she could walk through the house with John and I.
Was disappointed that she couldn't.
[tense music]
Wow, there's a lot more in here
than when we left last time, yes?
- Yes. - Okay.
[John] I have an explanation.
Okay, share it with me. [John chuckles]
When I walked into the house,
I saw that he had a lot of stuff.
It wasn't as full as when we arrived,
but he did fill it up again.
[intense music]
- It's been a while, huh? - Yeah, it has been a while.
And we did a lot of work here, man.
Yeah, we did, we did.
Well, talk to me about the space.
I mean, I still see the floor, which is good.
[John] Yeah, I even got to vacuum lately, you know?
- Okay, that's great. - I like to vacuum.
- That's good. - It's nice.
That is, that's a good thing.
But clearly, the room is still full of stuff, right?
So, or refilled, there's some, you know,
new things here, talk to me about that.
Well, the new things are things that we went through
last time you guys were here, and we had them in storage.
And so I'm down to one 10 by 10 storage.
- What? - [John] Yeah.
- That's terrific. - Okay, and that's what's here.
So you only have one storage unit instead of two?
- Instead of four. - Instead of four?
[John] Yeah.
Okay, so you've gone from four to one.
That's progress.
And that's what's here.
I think one of the encouraging things in talking
to John was that he isn't bringing new stuff in.
It's things that he had already acquired,
things that he had in the storage unit.
So I wanted you to understand, and if you have
any questions, want you to be frank with me, okay?
Yeah, of course, I will be.
I'll definitely be frank.
Something I noticed coming in
was that your truck is totally empty.
Your pickup truck is totally empty.
[John] Yep.
It was full beyond the racks
in the truck when I was here last.
So what happened to all of that?
Well, of course it just got,
you know, went through and away,
'cause we did leave that on the truck at the end of it,
when the cleaners came. - We didn't get to touch it.
We didn't get to touch the truck.
And we also didn't get to touch the garage, I think.
That kind of didn't set me up for success
with the code enforcement, yeah. - [Carolina] Okay.
So I still haven't passed my inspection
with code enforcement.
[tense music]
It's not as bad as it was before you came,
but it looks like it's going that way,
and people, like including Andi, don't see the progress
that I've made a lot of times. - Right.
Because they just hear, like, they think I'm blowing smoke,
but I'm gonna get to visit my doctor again.
So you're not visiting the doc right now?
I dropped the ball with the Tina lady,
'cause I tried to take care of other people
more so than my self care, I guess, and you know,
it's frustrating and hard sometimes with that, you know?
You know you matter, right?
You matter. - [laughs] Yeah.
Like you are valuable too.
You should care for yourself too, John.
People that care about people that struggle
with hoarding disorder,
we feel like they need to make bigger strides.
I think progress, even small progress is still valuable.
You got surfaces that are clear, that's fantastic.
Thank you for noticing that, that is tough.
Last time I was here, that sink was black.
So the fact that your sink is clear
and your surfaces are clear
so that you can prepare food is fantastic.
It's white now. [both laughing]
Yes, it is.
All right, you got more to show me?
[John] Sure.
- All right, let's go. - Wherever you want.
You wanna take me to your bedroom?
- [John] Okay. - [Carolina] All right.
Yeah, it looked beautiful when you guys left, you know?
And now it has a bunch of clean laundry on it.
[Carolina] Are you sleeping in this bed?
I was until maybe about two weeks ago or three weeks ago.
Okay.
And then I changed to the couch,
because I was dealing with the clothes that were out there
and washing them in my laundry room in the garage
and then bringing 'em in here clean,
so that kind of 86'd me for the moment out here.
I'd love to see you in your bed sleeping, you know?
I want you to be able to, yeah, rest here.
But it's only been about less than a week or so,
not very long that I've slept on the couch.
I don't feel like I need to tell you what,
"You should do this and this and this,"
and all these different things, because I feel like you know.
You know what you need to address.
You know what you need to deal with.
Great.
I do see moments of growth.
I do see moments where he's also sharing
and taking responsibility for his actions,
and I think that's really great to see.
[tense music]
John, you got some stuff out here.
- Uh-huh. - Okay, take me around.
Come on.
[tense music]
So Carolina, this has got some of my paints.
So is this your project shed?
Like the sheds have got to be taken out,
and then I got to put my shelving units
that I had inside of my other sheds too
so I can be more organized,
be able to know where things are and stuff.
That's something that you guys helped me with.
I think it's good we can walk in the backyard.
I think it's hard that, you know,
you filled the back up again, which stinks.
Do you think you'd pass inspection?
Yeah, I understand that I'm not in compliance
out in the backyard either, probably.
[Carolina] Okay.
[tense music]
We saw a lot of stuff. - [Andi] Yeah?
- Yeah. - Mm-hmm.
But we did see there's progress that has been made.
There are some things that, you know,
I think he knows he needs to address
and deal with and work on, you know?
I know he knows.
I feel like you're a very supportive person
to him in his life, and I think one
of his goals should be is to get you in this house.
- I would like that. - Yeah.
This is the first time I've asked you not to come
into my house, and I don't mean to be defensive about it,
but I don't want you to be sad
and see it a mess again, all right?
I understand.
- Or this time. - I do.
He's giving himself a timeline,
a timeline to allow Andi to come back into the house.
He gave himself three weeks,
and I think he's recognizing things
that maybe he didn't before,
and that makes me really proud of him.
Well, you're taking responsibility, that's huge.
You are making forward progress, and I think that's huge.
I think also seeing someone,
so are you seeing anybody for therapy?
I have an appointment with Dr. Tina on next Tuesday,
7:00 p.m. - That's fantastic.
That's great, I'm really excited, that's huge.
I think Andi's pretty excited about that too.
Yeah.
He's going for it, and that's giving me so much hope.
Well, John, it was fantastic to see you.
It was great to see you too, Andi.
Thank you so much, ah.
I'm looking forward to liberating myself
from the baggage of my things,
these inanimate objects that occupy my mind
and the space in my mind that I don't have room for.
I want to make more room for better things.
[tender music]
[tense music]
I'm Andy and I'm 68, I'm an entrepreneur,
and I like to collect things and sell things.
[tense music]
The property is huge, the property's probably a acre.
I'm gonna rock and roll.
On my property, you'd find most anything you could use.
I got nuts and bolts and screws,
and tools of all sorts and kinds, mostly yard equipment.
[saw buzzing]
I got piles of junk, I got piles of scrap.
I got piles of stuff that needs to get outta here.
What else can I say? I got a pile of (bleep).
I'm Gabe, and Andy is my uncle.
Andy loves to call himself a junk entrepreneur
and a bunch of other things,
but he's just a hoarder and he's a squatter.
[whistle blowing]
[Andy] Coming.
What's up?
I am Louise, and I am 93 years old.
Quit blinking and look towards the door, ready?
I am Andy's mom.
- [Andy] I get it? - You got it that time.
Andy is living with me only because I need help.
He's created an unsafe living environment for her.
She's tripped and fallen multiple times
on the stuff that he's put in the way.
She can't get outta the house.
Andy does have too much stuff in the yard.
I think I'm almost afraid to see all that crap that's back there.
[tense music]
The city's forced me a couple of times
to clean up the property, and I do my best.
I get it pushed back to the garage.
I get everything trimmed up, painted up,
and repaired and everything.
I get them to write it off,
and somehow it comes back up.
[tense music]
Grandma unknowingly signed a crazy reverse mortgage deal
many, many years ago.
She only took out maybe 80 grand,
and that mortgage has been piling up month
after month with fees and interest and service fees,
and other things that we don't even know.
So the service fees have mounted up to $500,000 almost,
and if that is not paid off, the house can be lost.
[tense music]
[All] Good morning.
Oh my gosh, it's so nice to be here.
Andy, this entire team is here in honor of you.
How are you feeling?
- I'm happy about it. - Yeah?
To a certain degree. [chuckles]
Right, right, are you a little nervous?
- Yes. - Okay.
Because I know things are gonna go
that I don't want to go that are gonna go,
but the important thing is I wanna get rid of the things
that I really want to get rid of that are in our way.
We have Louise, who you love
to sit out in your front patio area,
but that has become unsafe for you.
So one of our goals is to get that cleared out
and make a really pleasant area
for you when you wanna come out and sit
and enjoy your beautiful neighborhood
that you're able to do that.
Does that sound okay with you?
Yes, ma'am.
Okay, we have Mike, you are Andy's brother.
We have Gabe, nephew, and Justine is your sister.
Everything's gonna be on Andy.
I mean, we're all here to support him,
but Andy, the ball's in your court.
Depending on how quickly you make decisions,
it's gonna determine how fast and how quick we can build
the momentum to get this job done.
All right, so trucks are here, let's load 'em up.
Let's get things going, are you guys excited?
- [All] Yes! - Let's go, let's get it.
[clapping]
[tense music]
[Andy] This is garbage, scrap metal.
[Brandon] What about this?
Garbage, that's scrap aluminum.
[tense music]
We can split the crew.
We can have a couple people, including Gabe,
work on this side with taking the shelving,
and let's move it to the side of the house for now.
In the meantime, I believe the family had some ideas
elsewhere in the property
that they maybe they thought they could be useful.
I think I'd like to work with Grandma with her office.
That's fine.
Then we can have three or four other individuals
and technicians in the back of the house
starting to address the yard, right?
As you wish. - That's fine.
All right, let's go.
[tense music]
[items clattering]
Scrap.
Can we toss that?
Gosh, I don't even know what it is.
[Justine] Goodbye.
- Bye. [laughs] - Goodbye.
Time to go, board.
I'll rent one if I need one.
[tense music] [items clattering]
This is gonna take up our time.
This is our second day, we got two days
to do the whole backyard and the pool building.
We're not gonna make it.
Remember, we got two crews.
I don't care what we have.
- Andy, Andy. - [Gabe] This is very important.
It's gonna get done, Gabe.
So what does it matter if it gets done now or later?
We can do both, Andy, we have two crews.
Work with us, please.
I'm losing my patience, okay?
We got so far.
Look what this crew did in a matter of hours.
Come on, man, let's do it.
I'm gonna shut this project down.
[Gabe] Let's do it, man, come on.
- [Brandon] Andy, Andy. - [Gabe] I'm with you.
Andy is venting, he's feeling very frustrated
that he's not being heard.
I got 21 properties out there
that look over the fence and see my yard.
Let's clean up the yard.
The stuff that's in the buildings
and that's outta sight is out of mind.
It's important for me to try to keep his communication going
so that he doesn't shut this whole project down.
[tense music]
We're going to finish through here.
- Okay. - Work our way right around,
and we're pretty much scrapping all this metal.
We wanna get on the other side of this garage.
I don't know if we'll get past that,
but I would like to assume that we will.
All right, so shall we continue?
Yes.
- Let's get going, guys. - All right, let's go.
[tense music] [items clattering]
That scrap metal will fill up the truck.
Are you gonna roll it up?
I think he's starting to get really scared and panicking
because he knows we only have one day left,
and once this manpower is gone,
he's gonna be back on his own to clear this property.
[tense music]
Andy throws out a big surprise.
He basically says that he is ready
to let other people clean out the carport,
that he doesn't have to go through the individual items,
and it can all go, with the exception of a couple boxes.
Clear it out.
Oh, I can't believe it's gonna happen.
I'm excited to see it again.
Let's go. [all clapping]
[tense music]
Rat poo, rat poo.
[intense music]
[Andy] Ready?
What's going on in here?
Hi, Louise, come on into your carport.
[bright music]
[Louise] Oh, is it nice and clean?
It is nice and clean just for you.
No way.
I am very grateful for my son and his son
to clean up the carport.
Gee, I hadn't seen it clean like that for ages.
How are you feeling?
I feel like crying.
Tears of happiness, yeah?
This is nice.
Well, Louise, it was very, very important to everybody
to get this space cleared out.
Andy, we couldn't have done it without you.
Thank you for that, thanks for giving the go ahead.
There's more in the back of the house to see, you ready?
- Ready. - Okay.
[bright music]
- Oh my gosh. - Oh my gosh.
Look at this.
You've got a beautiful view here.
Got a nice table where you and Andy can maybe have
some coffee in the morning or breakfast.
The family can join you.
There's so much more to this property
that you guys can enjoy now.
- Thank you. - [Robin] You're welcome.
So Andy, how are you feeling about the progress
that was made in such a short period of time?
I'm surprised, I didn't think we'd get this far.
This was one of the hardest hoarding projects
that I've ever worked on
because of the sheer mass and volume and density
of the items in the backyard.
We got rid of about 15 large truckloads of rubbish
and debris from this property.
I was given a heads up from the scrap metal company
that you got about five truckloads of scrap metal.
That came to about $760.
There are still some issues that need to be addressed.
We still have the issue with the reverse mortgage company
wanting to do the inspection, so that's another incentive
to encourage you to continue doing this.
In addition to that, the violations
in the codes can come and will come,
so we really want you guys to continue to work hard
to finish the remaining portion of this project.
It's only gonna be better for everyone involved.
It was a successful cleanup to as much as we got done.
I see the end of it, and I see when things start
to be repaired and painted and fixed,
and come back as nice as it was in the past.
[gentle music]
- Andy? - [Andy] Hi!
- Hello, hi, how are you? - How you been?
I'm doing good, it's good to see you.
I'm walking up to the driveway, and there is Andy,
exactly like he was a couple years ago when I saw him.
There he is tinkering on another project.
I see you're busy as ever.
Yeah, I was back here breaking some stuff up earlier.
- Yeah, yeah? - Staying busy.
Yeah, yeah, and it looks like you have been busy.
- I'm moving. - You're moving?
Mom has passed, she died in June, June 10th.
I'm sorry about your mother, Andy.
I know you were very, very close to her.
Well, I gave her her wish.
She wanted to pass here at home. - [Robin] Yeah.
Her son, her husband, this was her life.
- Yeah, you honored her. - I did.
I know a big reason for us
to come here in the first place was
to get the place cleaned up for your mother.
Lot of memories here.
A lot of memories.
[tense music]
We have a lot to talk about,
and I mean, let's just kind of start right here.
It looks better than the first time I came.
It definitely looks better,
but it looks like you've been collecting still a little bit.
No, it's breaking them piles down.
- [Robin] Okay. - And bringing stuff out.
Okay.
I don't collect anymore
and I'm spending a lot of time getting rid of stuff.
I sold the house, I'm trying to get it cleared out,
and get my stuff off the property,
so I'm not overly pressured, but I'm pressured.
I don't know how much stuff is in the backyard.
I'm gonna need to go see,
but this seems like a reasonable explanation
for the stuff that's in the driveway.
I've got a good sense of what's going on here.
Can I see a little more?
- You sure? - Oh, I'm sure.
[laughs] Okay.
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Oh, the ever-famous carport.
Andy walks me into the carport,
and I see that it's pretty significantly cluttered.
It looks like a lot of boxes,
but it's nowhere near what it was like
when we left where it was completely cleared.
This is because you're looking to move, is that correct?
I'm gonna be moving to Arizona.
[Robin] Oh my gosh.
I am interested in a piece of property in Arizona.
I made an offer, but there's still a couple legal problems
with the selling of the house and stuff
that need to be straightened out before I can actually move,
and I'm looking at probably 60 days or so
before I'm actually out of here.
And so is this house officially sold now?
- Yes. - [Robin] It is, okay.
They paid off the reverse mortgage.
[Robin] Okay.
They distributed funds into the trust account.
It sounds like you have a lot on your plate.
I mean, I can't even imagine.
Sometimes it goes from worse to bad.
Yeah, and I mean, dealing with the loss of your mother,
and then all of this on top of it is a lot.
I mean, that must have really affected you when she passed.
It did, it did, it did.
She was 94 and a half.
And she almost made it to 95.
It was very emotional.
So how much time do you have to get this all cleaned up?
I won't be leaving here until probably end of January.
- Okay, so you got-- - I got time.
Two months, yeah.
Why don't we continue on,
and I'd just like to see a little more
of your property and then we can chat more, okay?
Sure.
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All right, Andy, let's hold up here.
I continue to be amazed about the fact that it doesn't look
like he's brought more stuff on the property.
You've done a really good job keeping it clear.
Yes, there's a lot of clutter, but there's pathways
and I'm not feeling unsafe, I'm not tripping over things,
I'm not having to move things,
and I really feel that Andy benefited
from the time that we were here,
and that he does not want to re-hoard this property.
Did you take care of the aftercare
that we gave you, the therapy?
Or have someone come and help you?
No, there was just too much with Mom.
She started to go downhill. - Okay.
And I wasn't up to par either.
What's going on with you?
Yeah, I wasn't feeling too good when,
just before Mom passed, 'cause it was getting harder
for me to lift her and move her,
and I felt like I had pulled the muscle in my chest
or something, and every time I ate,
it'd sit right where the ribs come together,
and so I couldn't take the time to go to the doctor.
So when she did pass and I went in,
they said I had cancer of the pancreas.
Oh my gosh.
And my world came crashing down.
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It did, it really just came crashing down,
'cause there was so much going on,
I didn't know what to do.
[Robin] I'm sorry, Andy, I'm so sorry.
But I'm going through chemo, I got one more to go.
Most people when they get pancreatic cancer,
it's too late to do anything for it,
but mine was just at the beginning.
This must be really scary for you.
[Andy] It is.
But it sounds in the midst of this diagnosis
that your prognosis is good?
Yes, they say it's very good.
You are looking at your future,
and with this diagnosis,
you deserve to be in a place that is clutter free.
You're going to Arizona,
you're gonna be on the Colorado River in your boat,
and you know, I just-
- It's gonna be my retirement. - It's your retirement.
I think that Andy is starting to see
how he can take the circumstances in his life
and turn them into something that can be positive for him.
I wish you the best, and you know what,
if I am driving through Arizona, I am gonna give you a call
and say, "Hey, you know what, let's get that boat.
Let's hit the river," okay?
But again, such a pleasure to see you,
and thank you for inviting me back to your home.
You're more than welcome.
All right, you take good care.
- I'm gonna try. - All right, okay.
[Andy] I appreciate it.
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