1 00:00:02,875 --> 00:00:04,125 My name is John. 2 00:00:04,125 --> 00:00:06,167 I have an addiction to treasure hunting. 3 00:00:06,167 --> 00:00:09,083 My things are owning me. 4 00:00:10,667 --> 00:00:14,250 The hoarding has affected our relationship a lot. 5 00:00:15,375 --> 00:00:17,250 Code enforcement said that I need to clean up 6 00:00:17,250 --> 00:00:19,750 this whole house, or they're gonna put a lien up 7 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:22,000 for tens of thousands of dollars. 8 00:00:23,542 --> 00:00:24,417 You're slowing me down. 9 00:00:24,417 --> 00:00:25,875 I have a plan for this, let's go. 10 00:00:25,875 --> 00:00:27,125 Put it in the pile of keep. 11 00:00:27,125 --> 00:00:29,375 [intense music] 12 00:00:29,375 --> 00:00:31,292 John is not allowing her into the house. 13 00:00:31,292 --> 00:00:33,667 You could support me by not coming in right now. 14 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:39,583 I'm Andy, I like to collect things and sell things. 15 00:00:40,917 --> 00:00:43,583 I got piles of junk, I got piles of scrap. 16 00:00:43,583 --> 00:00:46,125 What else can I say? I got a pile of (bleep). 17 00:00:47,333 --> 00:00:48,750 - Andy. - [Andy] Hi. 18 00:00:48,750 --> 00:00:50,625 Hello, how are you? 19 00:00:50,625 --> 00:00:52,875 It's been a couple years since I've seen Andy. 20 00:00:52,875 --> 00:00:55,833 Did you take care of the aftercare that we gave you? 21 00:00:55,833 --> 00:00:57,833 No, they said I had cancer, 22 00:00:57,833 --> 00:00:59,958 and my world came crashing down. 23 00:00:59,958 --> 00:01:02,292 [tense music] 24 00:01:18,042 --> 00:01:20,417 [tense music] 25 00:01:36,625 --> 00:01:38,708 [pensive music] 26 00:01:45,667 --> 00:01:48,292 My name is John, and I like to take things apart 27 00:01:48,292 --> 00:01:51,875 and see how they work, I like to fix things, 28 00:01:51,875 --> 00:01:53,375 and things have become part 29 00:01:53,375 --> 00:01:56,167 of my unmanageable life here in this house. 30 00:01:56,167 --> 00:01:58,708 [tense music] 31 00:01:58,708 --> 00:02:01,667 There's the thrill, to me, of the unknown. 32 00:02:03,208 --> 00:02:06,750 I save things from going into the landfills 33 00:02:07,875 --> 00:02:09,500 to put 'em back into the system. 34 00:02:11,042 --> 00:02:13,208 Treasure hunting is one of my things 35 00:02:13,208 --> 00:02:16,000 that I have an addiction to, 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,042 and that's made my life unmanageable. 37 00:02:18,042 --> 00:02:20,417 [intense music] 38 00:02:24,292 --> 00:02:27,500 I'm Andi, and I'm John's girlfriend. 39 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:33,417 John is one of the kindest men I have ever met. 40 00:02:33,417 --> 00:02:38,250 He is sensitive, he's loving, he's giving. 41 00:02:38,250 --> 00:02:41,375 He's a whole beautiful person. 42 00:02:43,625 --> 00:02:45,208 I'm Dr. Tina Mays. 43 00:02:45,208 --> 00:02:46,417 I'm a clinical psychologist 44 00:02:46,417 --> 00:02:48,375 with a specialty in hoarding disorder. 45 00:02:50,375 --> 00:02:53,542 I have been working with John, helping him declutter. 46 00:02:54,875 --> 00:02:56,542 I was really, really happy 47 00:02:56,542 --> 00:02:59,125 that he was seeing a hoarding therapist, 48 00:02:59,125 --> 00:03:03,208 but I don't see very much progress in the house, 49 00:03:03,208 --> 00:03:06,625 and that it is upsetting. 50 00:03:08,167 --> 00:03:12,750 The hoarding has affected our relationship a lot. 51 00:03:12,750 --> 00:03:15,625 My things are owning me. 52 00:03:15,625 --> 00:03:19,833 They're owning me, and they rule me. 53 00:03:19,833 --> 00:03:22,208 [tense music] 54 00:03:30,583 --> 00:03:33,833 The code enforcement came by about 10 months ago 55 00:03:33,833 --> 00:03:36,542 due to the complaints of the neighbors. 56 00:03:36,542 --> 00:03:39,208 They said that I need to clean up this whole house, 57 00:03:39,208 --> 00:03:42,958 property, all of it to be in compliance, 58 00:03:42,958 --> 00:03:46,583 or they're going to put a lien on my house for the money 59 00:03:46,583 --> 00:03:48,875 that it takes to clean it up, 60 00:03:48,875 --> 00:03:52,208 which could be in the tens of thousands of dollars. 61 00:03:52,208 --> 00:03:54,667 [tense music] 62 00:04:00,417 --> 00:04:03,958 Yes, we are super excited to be here with you guys. 63 00:04:03,958 --> 00:04:06,417 John, his beloved Andi, 64 00:04:06,417 --> 00:04:08,208 Professor John here to support you, 65 00:04:08,208 --> 00:04:10,292 and Charlie also to support you. 66 00:04:10,292 --> 00:04:12,542 We are really excited to get started today. 67 00:04:12,542 --> 00:04:15,250 We have a lot of work to do. 68 00:04:15,250 --> 00:04:17,167 We have two ways to go. 69 00:04:17,167 --> 00:04:19,167 You can make decisions about your stuff 70 00:04:19,167 --> 00:04:21,833 and keep what you would like to, or the city 71 00:04:21,833 --> 00:04:24,667 or the county can come in and they will make decisions, 72 00:04:24,667 --> 00:04:26,417 and they're not gonna make decisions. 73 00:04:26,417 --> 00:04:28,375 They're just gonna get rid of it all. 74 00:04:28,375 --> 00:04:30,542 We have a short amount of time to make this happen. 75 00:04:30,542 --> 00:04:32,042 Let's do this, let's get it done. 76 00:04:32,042 --> 00:04:34,375 Let's go. [Andi laughing] 77 00:04:34,375 --> 00:04:36,708 [tense music[ 78 00:04:39,750 --> 00:04:42,458 [indistinct chatter] 79 00:04:52,625 --> 00:04:54,583 - What did you deem this to be? - [Andi] Trash. 80 00:04:54,583 --> 00:04:56,250 Okay, so what do you think? 81 00:04:56,250 --> 00:04:57,458 Dr. Mayes, come on over. 82 00:04:57,458 --> 00:04:59,083 Yeah, some feces and stuff. 83 00:04:59,083 --> 00:05:00,417 I need some gloves on. 84 00:05:00,417 --> 00:05:02,208 And you see why, right, John? 85 00:05:02,208 --> 00:05:04,083 Because it's covered in rat feces, right? 86 00:05:04,083 --> 00:05:05,333 - Correct. - Okay. 87 00:05:05,333 --> 00:05:07,583 So all right, that could be all trash. 88 00:05:07,583 --> 00:05:10,208 All right, Charlie and Andi have deemed this 89 00:05:10,208 --> 00:05:11,792 all to be trash. 90 00:05:11,792 --> 00:05:13,792 Okay, well, they don't know that these are the parts 91 00:05:13,792 --> 00:05:17,417 to make my downspout come and finish off. 92 00:05:17,417 --> 00:05:18,875 The parts are still necessary. 93 00:05:18,875 --> 00:05:19,875 So this is keep. 94 00:05:19,875 --> 00:05:22,500 Do you have other things that would be, 95 00:05:22,500 --> 00:05:24,458 that you wouldn't have to do a project for? 96 00:05:24,458 --> 00:05:26,250 We've got all these stars in the sky. 97 00:05:26,250 --> 00:05:27,500 Are we gonna keep it or give it away? 98 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:28,583 Well, there's gonna be other things 99 00:05:28,583 --> 00:05:29,792 that I'd rather keep than this 100 00:05:29,792 --> 00:05:32,167 that are gonna be in that category. 101 00:05:32,167 --> 00:05:33,250 [Carolina] Can we scrap this? 102 00:05:33,250 --> 00:05:35,208 [John] Yes, please, scrap, perfect. 103 00:05:35,208 --> 00:05:37,333 John, keep your feet moving, keep moving. 104 00:05:37,333 --> 00:05:38,250 [John] Keeping this. 105 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:39,542 Okay, keep moving. 106 00:05:39,542 --> 00:05:41,458 - Yes, please, the cart. - [Carolina] Scrap? 107 00:05:41,458 --> 00:05:43,292 - Or scrap, sorry. - Scrap. 108 00:05:43,292 --> 00:05:45,250 - Last one? - [John] Keep. 109 00:05:45,250 --> 00:05:47,000 All right, good job. 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,500 [John chuckling] 111 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:51,125 He did a really good job of really pushing through 112 00:05:51,125 --> 00:05:53,292 and making some good decisions. 113 00:05:54,875 --> 00:05:57,000 [tense music] 114 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,375 [Carolina] What about this? 115 00:06:02,375 --> 00:06:03,458 [John] Keep. 116 00:06:03,458 --> 00:06:04,667 Okay, keep that. 117 00:06:05,708 --> 00:06:06,708 Trash. 118 00:06:07,875 --> 00:06:10,208 - You guys got it? - [Worker] Got it. 119 00:06:10,208 --> 00:06:12,583 [tense music] 120 00:06:13,708 --> 00:06:15,250 Do you wanna keep this? 121 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:18,458 Yes, thank you very much, this is keep. 122 00:06:18,458 --> 00:06:19,583 [Carolina] Hold on, hold on. 123 00:06:19,583 --> 00:06:21,208 [John] I can take it to my storage. 124 00:06:21,208 --> 00:06:23,292 You're giving yourself projects, though. 125 00:06:23,292 --> 00:06:25,125 That's fine, I need to have some projects. 126 00:06:25,125 --> 00:06:28,708 It's gonna be about putting things in picture frames. 127 00:06:28,708 --> 00:06:30,458 I'm a little concerned, 'cause you are keeping a lot. 128 00:06:30,458 --> 00:06:31,875 You're gonna be very concerned when you see 129 00:06:31,875 --> 00:06:33,958 how many of these boxes I have like this. 130 00:06:33,958 --> 00:06:35,625 You're slowing me down, I have a plan for this, 131 00:06:35,625 --> 00:06:36,958 let's go, let's keep going. 132 00:06:36,958 --> 00:06:39,042 I'm keeping this, put it in the pile of keep. 133 00:06:39,042 --> 00:06:40,458 Let's go, come on, let's move. 134 00:06:40,458 --> 00:06:41,750 - [Carolina] John, I actually-- - [John] Let's move. 135 00:06:41,750 --> 00:06:43,167 John, I think because you're getting upset-- 136 00:06:43,167 --> 00:06:44,792 She said I could save this. 137 00:06:44,792 --> 00:06:46,875 [tense music] 138 00:06:50,708 --> 00:06:54,458 [sniffling] - I have my doubts. 139 00:06:55,333 --> 00:06:56,667 You're scared. 140 00:06:56,667 --> 00:07:00,458 I'm really scared, because I love him so much, 141 00:07:00,458 --> 00:07:03,083 and I know he loves me, 142 00:07:03,083 --> 00:07:07,958 but you can only survive so much in a relationship, 143 00:07:07,958 --> 00:07:13,750 and I'm scared because I'm wondering 144 00:07:13,750 --> 00:07:19,125 if our relationship will be able to move forward 145 00:07:19,125 --> 00:07:22,000 if he takes steps backwards. 146 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,042 I just really wanna validate you, 147 00:07:24,042 --> 00:07:26,917 and I'm so glad that you're letting it out, 148 00:07:26,917 --> 00:07:29,750 and I'm so glad that you told me about this. 149 00:07:29,750 --> 00:07:32,250 So thank you for your vulnerability 150 00:07:32,250 --> 00:07:33,542 and being willing to share, 151 00:07:33,542 --> 00:07:36,875 because this is so, so important. 152 00:07:36,875 --> 00:07:39,542 Oh my gosh, it's the most important thing 153 00:07:39,542 --> 00:07:41,042 in my life right now. 154 00:07:41,042 --> 00:07:42,167 [Robin] Yeah. 155 00:07:44,208 --> 00:07:47,083 [tense music] 156 00:07:55,250 --> 00:07:59,167 The kitchen was the worst part of the whole house. 157 00:07:59,167 --> 00:08:04,875 It's just nasty, really nasty, but it has to be done, 158 00:08:04,875 --> 00:08:08,375 and so now I'm getting it done pretty fast. 159 00:08:08,375 --> 00:08:10,708 [intense music] 160 00:08:12,542 --> 00:08:16,500 I wanna thank you for letting us do your kitchen, 161 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:19,000 'cause that was really gross. 162 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,167 Yeah, you're right. 163 00:08:20,167 --> 00:08:22,292 And now I can look forward to opening a cabinet 164 00:08:22,292 --> 00:08:25,667 and maybe getting some non-expired cranberry juice. 165 00:08:25,667 --> 00:08:28,042 - All right. - Thank you for trusting us. 166 00:08:28,042 --> 00:08:29,292 You're welcome. 167 00:08:29,292 --> 00:08:31,125 - I love you. - I trust you. 168 00:08:31,125 --> 00:08:32,625 John finally delegated 169 00:08:32,625 --> 00:08:35,042 some of the responsibility to Andi in the kitchen. 170 00:08:35,042 --> 00:08:36,417 That was amazing. 171 00:08:36,417 --> 00:08:37,750 I think that we all understand 172 00:08:37,750 --> 00:08:40,083 that we have a certain amount of time. 173 00:08:40,083 --> 00:08:43,500 Let's get to this, so I'm down, let's do this. 174 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,833 [tense music] 175 00:08:53,958 --> 00:08:56,125 Trash those. - [Carolina] Trash those? 176 00:08:56,125 --> 00:08:57,375 - Mm-hmm. - Okay. 177 00:08:57,375 --> 00:08:59,375 - [John] Yeah, he's done. - Okay, trash. 178 00:08:59,375 --> 00:09:01,500 [both laughing] 179 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:03,667 - This can go e-waste. - [Carolina] Yep. 180 00:09:03,667 --> 00:09:06,375 [pensive music] 181 00:09:06,375 --> 00:09:08,042 [Carolina] What about this? 182 00:09:08,042 --> 00:09:09,167 [John] Trash. 183 00:09:16,583 --> 00:09:18,917 [Andi] Oh, look, a bed. [all laughing] 184 00:09:19,833 --> 00:09:21,542 - You happy? - Yes. 185 00:09:21,542 --> 00:09:22,917 Good, good. 186 00:09:22,917 --> 00:09:26,125 Yes, we just need to find some clean sheets. 187 00:09:26,125 --> 00:09:27,708 Yeah, yeah. 188 00:09:27,708 --> 00:09:30,208 [upbeat music] 189 00:09:44,333 --> 00:09:46,458 [John] You guys ready for this? 190 00:09:46,458 --> 00:09:49,000 Hello, John, Andi. 191 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:53,042 [laughing] Come on in. 192 00:09:53,042 --> 00:09:55,667 [bright music] 193 00:09:58,167 --> 00:09:59,542 Was it worth it? 194 00:09:59,542 --> 00:10:01,750 Yeah, it's way worth it, oh my God. 195 00:10:01,750 --> 00:10:03,750 This is a really amazing thing 196 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:07,833 that you and your family, and your friends, 197 00:10:07,833 --> 00:10:10,167 your loving team were able to help you accomplish, 198 00:10:10,167 --> 00:10:11,333 so congratulations. 199 00:10:11,333 --> 00:10:12,708 Thank you so much. 200 00:10:14,208 --> 00:10:15,625 I love you. 201 00:10:15,625 --> 00:10:19,125 Thank you, honey, for bearing with me, you know? 202 00:10:20,583 --> 00:10:26,083 He's so grateful and happy that he has a home. 203 00:10:26,083 --> 00:10:28,042 It just made me cry. 204 00:10:28,042 --> 00:10:30,458 [tender music] 205 00:10:30,458 --> 00:10:32,125 [Andi gasps] 206 00:10:35,458 --> 00:10:39,083 Wait, I just got transported to a different house. 207 00:10:39,083 --> 00:10:40,375 [all laugh] 208 00:10:40,375 --> 00:10:43,167 [bright music] 209 00:10:43,167 --> 00:10:44,750 Oh my God! 210 00:10:51,708 --> 00:10:55,208 Oh man, you guys, that's beautiful. 211 00:10:55,208 --> 00:10:57,667 Oh my God, oh my God! 212 00:10:57,667 --> 00:10:59,042 [Robin] Come on in. 213 00:10:59,042 --> 00:11:01,125 [John] Thank you so much, you guys. 214 00:11:01,125 --> 00:11:04,542 - Oh my God. - It's beautiful. 215 00:11:04,542 --> 00:11:06,667 And you can sleep here tonight. 216 00:11:06,667 --> 00:11:08,375 We will talk to code enforcement 217 00:11:08,375 --> 00:11:10,208 and let them know that you made 218 00:11:10,208 --> 00:11:13,625 huge strides in cleaning out your backyard, 219 00:11:13,625 --> 00:11:15,125 cleaning up your house. 220 00:11:15,125 --> 00:11:18,333 And that will hopefully either grant you an extension, 221 00:11:18,333 --> 00:11:20,583 or they feel like you'll pass inspection. 222 00:11:20,583 --> 00:11:22,500 Outside, you'll pass inspection. 223 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:23,667 Really? 224 00:11:23,667 --> 00:11:24,875 - [Carolina] Yes. - Wow. 225 00:11:24,875 --> 00:11:27,042 [all laugh] - Another round of applause. 226 00:11:27,042 --> 00:11:29,167 [all clapping] 227 00:11:30,542 --> 00:11:31,792 Oh my God. 228 00:11:34,167 --> 00:11:35,542 It's huge. 229 00:11:35,542 --> 00:11:37,708 This whole transformation is going 230 00:11:37,708 --> 00:11:40,333 to move our relationship forward. 231 00:11:41,750 --> 00:11:44,708 It's gonna be amazing, it's really gonna be amazing. 232 00:11:44,708 --> 00:11:47,333 [bright music] 233 00:11:47,333 --> 00:11:48,208 [balls clacking] 234 00:11:48,208 --> 00:11:51,708 Ooh, you got one! [all laughing] 235 00:11:51,708 --> 00:11:54,083 I'm so in love with Andi. 236 00:11:55,500 --> 00:12:00,333 I'm so in wonder of like the possibilities without this type 237 00:12:00,333 --> 00:12:04,167 of burden that don't include jumping in dumpsters, you know? 238 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,958 I'm amazed by what I've done, 239 00:12:06,958 --> 00:12:10,042 and I'm gonna be even more amazed by what I can do. 240 00:12:10,042 --> 00:12:11,208 I'm stoked. 241 00:12:14,542 --> 00:12:16,917 [emotive music] 242 00:12:52,167 --> 00:12:53,958 - [Carolina] Hey. - [Andi] Hey. 243 00:12:53,958 --> 00:12:57,250 - It's good to see you. - So good to see you. 244 00:13:00,917 --> 00:13:03,500 I'm Carolina Harvey, professional organizer, 245 00:13:03,500 --> 00:13:05,042 specializing in hoarding. 246 00:13:05,042 --> 00:13:07,208 How you been? - Pretty good. 247 00:13:07,208 --> 00:13:09,208 - Yeah? - Yeah. 248 00:13:09,208 --> 00:13:10,417 What's going on? 249 00:13:10,417 --> 00:13:13,542 Um, it's been a rough road. 250 00:13:13,542 --> 00:13:14,833 - [Carolina] Has it? - Yeah. 251 00:13:14,833 --> 00:13:17,042 So how are things with John? 252 00:13:17,042 --> 00:13:20,667 Um, up and down, a lot of up and down. 253 00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:22,042 - Really? - [Andi] Yeah. 254 00:13:22,042 --> 00:13:23,542 Can you talk to me about that? 255 00:13:23,542 --> 00:13:24,917 What's up, what's down? 256 00:13:24,917 --> 00:13:27,917 Well, this time, he won't let me in the house, 257 00:13:27,917 --> 00:13:30,458 and it's been a couple months. 258 00:13:30,458 --> 00:13:36,125 I think maybe he's feeling ashamed and embarrassed, 259 00:13:36,125 --> 00:13:38,250 and doesn't wanna disappoint me. 260 00:13:38,250 --> 00:13:39,792 I was a little disappointed to hear 261 00:13:39,792 --> 00:13:41,708 that she wasn't allowed in the house. 262 00:13:41,708 --> 00:13:43,208 I get where he's coming from. 263 00:13:43,208 --> 00:13:46,083 I think, you know, he's embarrassed, and that's fair, 264 00:13:46,083 --> 00:13:48,917 and I think he doesn't wanna disappoint someone he loves. 265 00:13:51,375 --> 00:13:52,708 It's been a rough road. 266 00:13:52,708 --> 00:13:54,542 We've been on again, off again. 267 00:13:54,542 --> 00:13:59,250 We broke up for four months, and we got back together, 268 00:13:59,250 --> 00:14:03,250 and we always break up over this, over the house. 269 00:14:03,250 --> 00:14:06,375 I would love to find out some more about how he feels. 270 00:14:06,375 --> 00:14:08,208 Let's see if we can get you in the house. 271 00:14:08,208 --> 00:14:09,542 You can try. 272 00:14:09,542 --> 00:14:10,917 Okay, let's take a look around. 273 00:14:10,917 --> 00:14:12,042 See what's going on. 274 00:14:12,042 --> 00:14:14,000 - All right. - All right, come on. 275 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,833 [tense music] 276 00:14:18,667 --> 00:14:20,500 [knocking] 277 00:14:22,625 --> 00:14:24,583 Hey. - Hi, Carolina. 278 00:14:24,583 --> 00:14:25,875 - How are you? - Nice to see you. 279 00:14:25,875 --> 00:14:28,042 [Carolina] Good to see you. 280 00:14:28,042 --> 00:14:29,875 - Thanks for coming. - Yeah, of course. 281 00:14:29,875 --> 00:14:32,083 - Yeah. - Can Andi come in with us? 282 00:14:32,083 --> 00:14:33,917 Oh, well, hey, is Andi-- 283 00:14:33,917 --> 00:14:36,958 Hi, Andi, I wanna hug you. - Yes. 284 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,333 I don't wanna experience the guilt 285 00:14:41,333 --> 00:14:46,417 and shame of disappointing Andi with my things. 286 00:14:46,417 --> 00:14:49,792 I wanna put a time limit on myself, which I've never done 287 00:14:49,792 --> 00:14:51,417 for this kind of thing with you. 288 00:14:51,417 --> 00:14:54,167 In three weeks, I want to invite you back. 289 00:14:54,167 --> 00:14:55,458 It's around my birthday time, 290 00:14:55,458 --> 00:15:00,208 and maybe I can pass your inspection then, okay? 291 00:15:00,208 --> 00:15:01,542 Okay. 292 00:15:01,542 --> 00:15:03,417 So you could support me by not coming in right now. 293 00:15:03,417 --> 00:15:04,583 - Okay. - Okay? 294 00:15:04,583 --> 00:15:06,333 - Mm-hmm, I respect that. - I appreciate it. 295 00:15:06,333 --> 00:15:07,875 So Carolina, are you all right with that? 296 00:15:07,875 --> 00:15:09,458 Yeah, you don't wanna have shame and guilt. 297 00:15:09,458 --> 00:15:11,875 Thanks very much, thanks for understanding. 298 00:15:11,875 --> 00:15:14,042 Of course, show me around. 299 00:15:14,042 --> 00:15:15,875 Let's go, okay. 300 00:15:15,875 --> 00:15:17,208 I was really hoping 301 00:15:17,208 --> 00:15:18,667 that Andi would be able to come in with us 302 00:15:18,667 --> 00:15:22,042 so that she could walk through the house with John and I. 303 00:15:22,042 --> 00:15:24,042 Was disappointed that she couldn't. 304 00:15:24,042 --> 00:15:26,667 [tense music] 305 00:15:26,667 --> 00:15:29,208 Wow, there's a lot more in here 306 00:15:29,208 --> 00:15:32,875 than when we left last time, yes? 307 00:15:32,875 --> 00:15:35,042 - Yes. - Okay. 308 00:15:35,042 --> 00:15:36,292 [John] I have an explanation. 309 00:15:36,292 --> 00:15:38,250 Okay, share it with me. [John chuckles] 310 00:15:39,208 --> 00:15:40,917 When I walked into the house, 311 00:15:40,917 --> 00:15:43,125 I saw that he had a lot of stuff. 312 00:15:43,125 --> 00:15:45,792 It wasn't as full as when we arrived, 313 00:15:45,792 --> 00:15:47,333 but he did fill it up again. 314 00:15:47,333 --> 00:15:49,250 [intense music] 315 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:51,458 - It's been a while, huh? - Yeah, it has been a while. 316 00:15:51,458 --> 00:15:53,042 And we did a lot of work here, man. 317 00:15:53,042 --> 00:15:54,667 Yeah, we did, we did. 318 00:15:54,667 --> 00:15:56,042 Well, talk to me about the space. 319 00:15:56,042 --> 00:15:58,125 I mean, I still see the floor, which is good. 320 00:15:58,125 --> 00:16:00,250 [John] Yeah, I even got to vacuum lately, you know? 321 00:16:00,250 --> 00:16:02,583 - Okay, that's great. - I like to vacuum. 322 00:16:02,583 --> 00:16:04,000 - That's good. - It's nice. 323 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,708 That is, that's a good thing. 324 00:16:05,708 --> 00:16:08,917 But clearly, the room is still full of stuff, right? 325 00:16:08,917 --> 00:16:11,875 So, or refilled, there's some, you know, 326 00:16:11,875 --> 00:16:13,458 new things here, talk to me about that. 327 00:16:13,458 --> 00:16:16,333 Well, the new things are things that we went through 328 00:16:16,333 --> 00:16:20,042 last time you guys were here, and we had them in storage. 329 00:16:20,042 --> 00:16:24,167 And so I'm down to one 10 by 10 storage. 330 00:16:24,167 --> 00:16:25,667 - What? - [John] Yeah. 331 00:16:25,667 --> 00:16:28,042 - That's terrific. - Okay, and that's what's here. 332 00:16:28,042 --> 00:16:30,000 So you only have one storage unit instead of two? 333 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,875 - Instead of four. - Instead of four? 334 00:16:31,875 --> 00:16:33,083 [John] Yeah. 335 00:16:33,083 --> 00:16:34,875 Okay, so you've gone from four to one. 336 00:16:34,875 --> 00:16:35,833 That's progress. 337 00:16:35,833 --> 00:16:37,208 And that's what's here. 338 00:16:37,208 --> 00:16:39,375 I think one of the encouraging things in talking 339 00:16:39,375 --> 00:16:42,875 to John was that he isn't bringing new stuff in. 340 00:16:42,875 --> 00:16:44,917 It's things that he had already acquired, 341 00:16:44,917 --> 00:16:46,625 things that he had in the storage unit. 342 00:16:46,625 --> 00:16:50,458 So I wanted you to understand, and if you have 343 00:16:50,458 --> 00:16:53,292 any questions, want you to be frank with me, okay? 344 00:16:53,292 --> 00:16:55,000 Yeah, of course, I will be. 345 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,292 I'll definitely be frank. 346 00:16:56,292 --> 00:16:58,083 Something I noticed coming in 347 00:16:58,083 --> 00:17:00,208 was that your truck is totally empty. 348 00:17:00,208 --> 00:17:01,875 Your pickup truck is totally empty. 349 00:17:01,875 --> 00:17:03,000 [John] Yep. 350 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,417 It was full beyond the racks 351 00:17:05,417 --> 00:17:07,833 in the truck when I was here last. 352 00:17:07,833 --> 00:17:09,708 So what happened to all of that? 353 00:17:09,708 --> 00:17:11,042 Well, of course it just got, 354 00:17:11,042 --> 00:17:13,417 you know, went through and away, 355 00:17:13,417 --> 00:17:15,667 'cause we did leave that on the truck at the end of it, 356 00:17:15,667 --> 00:17:17,792 when the cleaners came. - We didn't get to touch it. 357 00:17:17,792 --> 00:17:19,250 We didn't get to touch the truck. 358 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:21,042 And we also didn't get to touch the garage, I think. 359 00:17:21,042 --> 00:17:23,125 That kind of didn't set me up for success 360 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:26,208 with the code enforcement, yeah. - [Carolina] Okay. 361 00:17:26,208 --> 00:17:28,625 So I still haven't passed my inspection 362 00:17:28,625 --> 00:17:29,708 with code enforcement. 363 00:17:29,708 --> 00:17:32,000 [tense music] 364 00:17:40,042 --> 00:17:42,417 [tense music] 365 00:17:51,083 --> 00:17:53,458 It's not as bad as it was before you came, 366 00:17:53,458 --> 00:17:56,375 but it looks like it's going that way, 367 00:17:56,375 --> 00:17:59,625 and people, like including Andi, don't see the progress 368 00:17:59,625 --> 00:18:01,875 that I've made a lot of times. - Right. 369 00:18:01,875 --> 00:18:04,375 Because they just hear, like, they think I'm blowing smoke, 370 00:18:04,375 --> 00:18:07,208 but I'm gonna get to visit my doctor again. 371 00:18:07,208 --> 00:18:09,208 So you're not visiting the doc right now? 372 00:18:09,208 --> 00:18:11,667 I dropped the ball with the Tina lady, 373 00:18:11,667 --> 00:18:14,375 'cause I tried to take care of other people 374 00:18:14,375 --> 00:18:19,458 more so than my self care, I guess, and you know, 375 00:18:19,458 --> 00:18:22,708 it's frustrating and hard sometimes with that, you know? 376 00:18:22,708 --> 00:18:24,042 You know you matter, right? 377 00:18:24,042 --> 00:18:25,208 You matter. - [laughs] Yeah. 378 00:18:25,208 --> 00:18:27,208 Like you are valuable too. 379 00:18:27,208 --> 00:18:29,542 You should care for yourself too, John. 380 00:18:29,542 --> 00:18:31,625 People that care about people that struggle 381 00:18:31,625 --> 00:18:32,708 with hoarding disorder, 382 00:18:32,708 --> 00:18:34,792 we feel like they need to make bigger strides. 383 00:18:34,792 --> 00:18:38,625 I think progress, even small progress is still valuable. 384 00:18:39,667 --> 00:18:42,708 You got surfaces that are clear, that's fantastic. 385 00:18:42,708 --> 00:18:44,708 Thank you for noticing that, that is tough. 386 00:18:44,708 --> 00:18:46,583 Last time I was here, that sink was black. 387 00:18:46,583 --> 00:18:50,083 So the fact that your sink is clear 388 00:18:50,083 --> 00:18:51,292 and your surfaces are clear 389 00:18:51,292 --> 00:18:53,375 so that you can prepare food is fantastic. 390 00:18:53,375 --> 00:18:55,625 It's white now. [both laughing] 391 00:18:55,625 --> 00:18:57,000 Yes, it is. 392 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,167 All right, you got more to show me? 393 00:18:58,167 --> 00:18:59,417 [John] Sure. 394 00:18:59,417 --> 00:19:00,542 - All right, let's go. - Wherever you want. 395 00:19:00,542 --> 00:19:02,208 You wanna take me to your bedroom? 396 00:19:02,208 --> 00:19:03,792 - [John] Okay. - [Carolina] All right. 397 00:19:03,792 --> 00:19:07,208 Yeah, it looked beautiful when you guys left, you know? 398 00:19:07,208 --> 00:19:10,083 And now it has a bunch of clean laundry on it. 399 00:19:10,083 --> 00:19:11,708 [Carolina] Are you sleeping in this bed? 400 00:19:11,708 --> 00:19:15,542 I was until maybe about two weeks ago or three weeks ago. 401 00:19:15,542 --> 00:19:16,458 Okay. 402 00:19:16,458 --> 00:19:17,917 And then I changed to the couch, 403 00:19:17,917 --> 00:19:19,833 because I was dealing with the clothes that were out there 404 00:19:19,833 --> 00:19:22,917 and washing them in my laundry room in the garage 405 00:19:22,917 --> 00:19:24,500 and then bringing 'em in here clean, 406 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:28,708 so that kind of 86'd me for the moment out here. 407 00:19:28,708 --> 00:19:31,708 I'd love to see you in your bed sleeping, you know? 408 00:19:31,708 --> 00:19:34,542 I want you to be able to, yeah, rest here. 409 00:19:34,542 --> 00:19:38,042 But it's only been about less than a week or so, 410 00:19:38,042 --> 00:19:40,542 not very long that I've slept on the couch. 411 00:19:40,542 --> 00:19:43,125 I don't feel like I need to tell you what, 412 00:19:43,125 --> 00:19:44,625 "You should do this and this and this," 413 00:19:44,625 --> 00:19:46,458 and all these different things, because I feel like you know. 414 00:19:46,458 --> 00:19:48,083 You know what you need to address. 415 00:19:48,083 --> 00:19:49,542 You know what you need to deal with. 416 00:19:49,542 --> 00:19:50,500 Great. 417 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:52,625 I do see moments of growth. 418 00:19:52,625 --> 00:19:56,083 I do see moments where he's also sharing 419 00:19:56,083 --> 00:19:58,167 and taking responsibility for his actions, 420 00:19:58,167 --> 00:20:00,250 and I think that's really great to see. 421 00:20:01,542 --> 00:20:04,417 [tense music] 422 00:20:12,375 --> 00:20:14,917 John, you got some stuff out here. 423 00:20:14,917 --> 00:20:17,625 - Uh-huh. - Okay, take me around. 424 00:20:17,625 --> 00:20:18,708 Come on. 425 00:20:18,708 --> 00:20:20,833 [tense music] 426 00:20:24,542 --> 00:20:27,250 So Carolina, this has got some of my paints. 427 00:20:27,250 --> 00:20:29,542 So is this your project shed? 428 00:20:29,542 --> 00:20:32,500 Like the sheds have got to be taken out, 429 00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:34,250 and then I got to put my shelving units 430 00:20:34,250 --> 00:20:36,208 that I had inside of my other sheds too 431 00:20:36,208 --> 00:20:37,792 so I can be more organized, 432 00:20:37,792 --> 00:20:39,542 be able to know where things are and stuff. 433 00:20:39,542 --> 00:20:42,333 That's something that you guys helped me with. 434 00:20:42,333 --> 00:20:44,375 I think it's good we can walk in the backyard. 435 00:20:44,375 --> 00:20:45,833 I think it's hard that, you know, 436 00:20:45,833 --> 00:20:48,083 you filled the back up again, which stinks. 437 00:20:48,083 --> 00:20:49,500 Do you think you'd pass inspection? 438 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:51,542 Yeah, I understand that I'm not in compliance 439 00:20:51,542 --> 00:20:53,708 out in the backyard either, probably. 440 00:20:53,708 --> 00:20:55,042 [Carolina] Okay. 441 00:20:55,042 --> 00:20:57,333 [tense music] 442 00:21:02,292 --> 00:21:05,042 We saw a lot of stuff. - [Andi] Yeah? 443 00:21:05,042 --> 00:21:06,458 - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. 444 00:21:06,458 --> 00:21:10,292 But we did see there's progress that has been made. 445 00:21:10,292 --> 00:21:12,125 There are some things that, you know, 446 00:21:12,125 --> 00:21:13,542 I think he knows he needs to address 447 00:21:13,542 --> 00:21:15,375 and deal with and work on, you know? 448 00:21:15,375 --> 00:21:16,708 I know he knows. 449 00:21:16,708 --> 00:21:20,083 I feel like you're a very supportive person 450 00:21:20,083 --> 00:21:21,917 to him in his life, and I think one 451 00:21:21,917 --> 00:21:25,583 of his goals should be is to get you in this house. 452 00:21:25,583 --> 00:21:27,667 - I would like that. - Yeah. 453 00:21:27,667 --> 00:21:29,958 This is the first time I've asked you not to come 454 00:21:29,958 --> 00:21:32,375 into my house, and I don't mean to be defensive about it, 455 00:21:32,375 --> 00:21:35,208 but I don't want you to be sad 456 00:21:35,208 --> 00:21:38,042 and see it a mess again, all right? 457 00:21:38,042 --> 00:21:39,167 I understand. 458 00:21:39,167 --> 00:21:41,292 - Or this time. - I do. 459 00:21:41,292 --> 00:21:43,375 He's giving himself a timeline, 460 00:21:43,375 --> 00:21:46,292 a timeline to allow Andi to come back into the house. 461 00:21:46,292 --> 00:21:47,417 He gave himself three weeks, 462 00:21:47,417 --> 00:21:50,042 and I think he's recognizing things 463 00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:51,458 that maybe he didn't before, 464 00:21:51,458 --> 00:21:53,583 and that makes me really proud of him. 465 00:21:53,583 --> 00:21:55,875 Well, you're taking responsibility, that's huge. 466 00:21:55,875 --> 00:21:59,708 You are making forward progress, and I think that's huge. 467 00:21:59,708 --> 00:22:01,708 I think also seeing someone, 468 00:22:01,708 --> 00:22:04,542 so are you seeing anybody for therapy? 469 00:22:04,542 --> 00:22:08,708 I have an appointment with Dr. Tina on next Tuesday, 470 00:22:08,708 --> 00:22:10,250 7:00 p.m. - That's fantastic. 471 00:22:10,250 --> 00:22:13,542 That's great, I'm really excited, that's huge. 472 00:22:13,542 --> 00:22:15,333 I think Andi's pretty excited about that too. 473 00:22:15,333 --> 00:22:17,500 Yeah. 474 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:21,375 He's going for it, and that's giving me so much hope. 475 00:22:21,375 --> 00:22:23,750 Well, John, it was fantastic to see you. 476 00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:26,083 It was great to see you too, Andi. 477 00:22:26,083 --> 00:22:28,542 Thank you so much, ah. 478 00:22:28,542 --> 00:22:30,625 I'm looking forward to liberating myself 479 00:22:30,625 --> 00:22:32,542 from the baggage of my things, 480 00:22:32,542 --> 00:22:35,917 these inanimate objects that occupy my mind 481 00:22:35,917 --> 00:22:39,667 and the space in my mind that I don't have room for. 482 00:22:39,667 --> 00:22:42,792 I want to make more room for better things. 483 00:22:42,792 --> 00:22:45,333 [tender music] 484 00:22:50,125 --> 00:22:52,583 [tense music] 485 00:22:59,375 --> 00:23:02,958 I'm Andy and I'm 68, I'm an entrepreneur, 486 00:23:02,958 --> 00:23:05,542 and I like to collect things and sell things. 487 00:23:05,542 --> 00:23:08,625 [tense music] 488 00:23:09,958 --> 00:23:13,833 The property is huge, the property's probably a acre. 489 00:23:14,958 --> 00:23:16,875 I'm gonna rock and roll. 490 00:23:16,875 --> 00:23:20,292 On my property, you'd find most anything you could use. 491 00:23:20,292 --> 00:23:22,167 I got nuts and bolts and screws, 492 00:23:22,167 --> 00:23:26,000 and tools of all sorts and kinds, mostly yard equipment. 493 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,917 [saw buzzing] 494 00:23:29,542 --> 00:23:32,708 I got piles of junk, I got piles of scrap. 495 00:23:32,708 --> 00:23:35,500 I got piles of stuff that needs to get outta here. 496 00:23:37,583 --> 00:23:40,125 What else can I say? I got a pile of (bleep). 497 00:23:41,375 --> 00:23:43,375 I'm Gabe, and Andy is my uncle. 498 00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:48,250 Andy loves to call himself a junk entrepreneur 499 00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:50,000 and a bunch of other things, 500 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,542 but he's just a hoarder and he's a squatter. 501 00:23:56,875 --> 00:23:59,875 [whistle blowing] 502 00:23:59,875 --> 00:24:01,250 [Andy] Coming. 503 00:24:01,250 --> 00:24:02,667 What's up? 504 00:24:03,875 --> 00:24:09,542 I am Louise, and I am 93 years old. 505 00:24:09,542 --> 00:24:12,417 Quit blinking and look towards the door, ready? 506 00:24:12,417 --> 00:24:14,375 I am Andy's mom. 507 00:24:14,375 --> 00:24:16,833 - [Andy] I get it? - You got it that time. 508 00:24:16,833 --> 00:24:23,875 Andy is living with me only because I need help. 509 00:24:23,875 --> 00:24:26,458 He's created an unsafe living environment for her. 510 00:24:26,458 --> 00:24:29,375 She's tripped and fallen multiple times 511 00:24:29,375 --> 00:24:31,583 on the stuff that he's put in the way. 512 00:24:31,583 --> 00:24:33,667 She can't get outta the house. 513 00:24:33,667 --> 00:24:37,875 Andy does have too much stuff in the yard. 514 00:24:37,875 --> 00:24:42,542 I think I'm almost afraid to see all that crap that's back there. 515 00:24:42,542 --> 00:24:45,125 [tense music] 516 00:24:51,042 --> 00:24:54,083 The city's forced me a couple of times 517 00:24:54,083 --> 00:24:57,292 to clean up the property, and I do my best. 518 00:24:57,292 --> 00:24:59,583 I get it pushed back to the garage. 519 00:24:59,583 --> 00:25:01,458 I get everything trimmed up, painted up, 520 00:25:01,458 --> 00:25:03,208 and repaired and everything. 521 00:25:03,208 --> 00:25:05,500 I get them to write it off, 522 00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:08,708 and somehow it comes back up. 523 00:25:10,167 --> 00:25:13,000 [tense music] 524 00:25:20,417 --> 00:25:25,292 Grandma unknowingly signed a crazy reverse mortgage deal 525 00:25:25,292 --> 00:25:26,667 many, many years ago. 526 00:25:26,667 --> 00:25:29,833 She only took out maybe 80 grand, 527 00:25:29,833 --> 00:25:34,125 and that mortgage has been piling up month 528 00:25:34,125 --> 00:25:38,000 after month with fees and interest and service fees, 529 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,708 and other things that we don't even know. 530 00:25:40,708 --> 00:25:45,667 So the service fees have mounted up to $500,000 almost, 531 00:25:45,667 --> 00:25:50,208 and if that is not paid off, the house can be lost. 532 00:25:50,208 --> 00:25:53,042 [tense music] 533 00:26:00,375 --> 00:26:01,750 [All] Good morning. 534 00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:03,458 Oh my gosh, it's so nice to be here. 535 00:26:03,458 --> 00:26:09,042 Andy, this entire team is here in honor of you. 536 00:26:09,042 --> 00:26:10,750 How are you feeling? 537 00:26:10,750 --> 00:26:13,875 - I'm happy about it. - Yeah? 538 00:26:13,875 --> 00:26:16,042 To a certain degree. [chuckles] 539 00:26:16,042 --> 00:26:18,333 Right, right, are you a little nervous? 540 00:26:18,333 --> 00:26:19,583 - Yes. - Okay. 541 00:26:19,583 --> 00:26:21,583 Because I know things are gonna go 542 00:26:21,583 --> 00:26:23,958 that I don't want to go that are gonna go, 543 00:26:23,958 --> 00:26:26,083 but the important thing is I wanna get rid of the things 544 00:26:26,083 --> 00:26:29,458 that I really want to get rid of that are in our way. 545 00:26:29,458 --> 00:26:33,042 We have Louise, who you love 546 00:26:33,042 --> 00:26:36,375 to sit out in your front patio area, 547 00:26:36,375 --> 00:26:38,875 but that has become unsafe for you. 548 00:26:38,875 --> 00:26:41,750 So one of our goals is to get that cleared out 549 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:43,792 and make a really pleasant area 550 00:26:43,792 --> 00:26:45,917 for you when you wanna come out and sit 551 00:26:45,917 --> 00:26:48,458 and enjoy your beautiful neighborhood 552 00:26:48,458 --> 00:26:49,750 that you're able to do that. 553 00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:51,542 Does that sound okay with you? 554 00:26:51,542 --> 00:26:52,917 Yes, ma'am. 555 00:26:52,917 --> 00:26:56,875 Okay, we have Mike, you are Andy's brother. 556 00:26:56,875 --> 00:27:00,458 We have Gabe, nephew, and Justine is your sister. 557 00:27:00,458 --> 00:27:01,667 Everything's gonna be on Andy. 558 00:27:01,667 --> 00:27:03,375 I mean, we're all here to support him, 559 00:27:03,375 --> 00:27:05,750 but Andy, the ball's in your court. 560 00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:08,083 Depending on how quickly you make decisions, 561 00:27:08,083 --> 00:27:10,625 it's gonna determine how fast and how quick we can build 562 00:27:10,625 --> 00:27:13,000 the momentum to get this job done. 563 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,958 All right, so trucks are here, let's load 'em up. 564 00:27:15,958 --> 00:27:17,958 Let's get things going, are you guys excited? 565 00:27:17,958 --> 00:27:20,083 - [All] Yes! - Let's go, let's get it. 566 00:27:20,083 --> 00:27:21,292 [clapping] 567 00:27:21,292 --> 00:27:23,583 [tense music] 568 00:27:24,708 --> 00:27:27,750 [Andy] This is garbage, scrap metal. 569 00:27:29,917 --> 00:27:31,542 [Brandon] What about this? 570 00:27:31,542 --> 00:27:33,708 Garbage, that's scrap aluminum. 571 00:27:33,708 --> 00:27:36,125 [tense music] 572 00:27:44,542 --> 00:27:46,042 We can split the crew. 573 00:27:46,042 --> 00:27:48,208 We can have a couple people, including Gabe, 574 00:27:48,208 --> 00:27:50,875 work on this side with taking the shelving, 575 00:27:50,875 --> 00:27:53,042 and let's move it to the side of the house for now. 576 00:27:53,042 --> 00:27:56,208 In the meantime, I believe the family had some ideas 577 00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:57,375 elsewhere in the property 578 00:27:57,375 --> 00:27:59,292 that they maybe they thought they could be useful. 579 00:27:59,292 --> 00:28:03,708 I think I'd like to work with Grandma with her office. 580 00:28:03,708 --> 00:28:05,208 That's fine. 581 00:28:05,208 --> 00:28:07,042 Then we can have three or four other individuals 582 00:28:07,042 --> 00:28:08,958 and technicians in the back of the house 583 00:28:08,958 --> 00:28:11,833 starting to address the yard, right? 584 00:28:11,833 --> 00:28:13,333 As you wish. - That's fine. 585 00:28:13,333 --> 00:28:14,667 All right, let's go. 586 00:28:14,667 --> 00:28:17,167 [tense music] 587 00:28:19,375 --> 00:28:21,417 [items clattering] 588 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:23,667 Scrap. 589 00:28:25,917 --> 00:28:27,708 Can we toss that? 590 00:28:27,708 --> 00:28:29,917 Gosh, I don't even know what it is. 591 00:28:31,375 --> 00:28:32,708 [Justine] Goodbye. 592 00:28:32,708 --> 00:28:35,167 - Bye. [laughs] - Goodbye. 593 00:28:35,167 --> 00:28:36,958 Time to go, board. 594 00:28:36,958 --> 00:28:38,708 I'll rent one if I need one. 595 00:28:38,708 --> 00:28:41,792 [tense music] [items clattering] 596 00:28:48,875 --> 00:28:50,542 This is gonna take up our time. 597 00:28:50,542 --> 00:28:52,917 This is our second day, we got two days 598 00:28:52,917 --> 00:28:55,375 to do the whole backyard and the pool building. 599 00:28:55,375 --> 00:28:56,708 We're not gonna make it. 600 00:28:57,625 --> 00:28:59,375 Remember, we got two crews. 601 00:28:59,375 --> 00:29:00,792 I don't care what we have. 602 00:29:00,792 --> 00:29:02,875 - Andy, Andy. - [Gabe] This is very important. 603 00:29:02,875 --> 00:29:04,542 It's gonna get done, Gabe. 604 00:29:04,542 --> 00:29:07,000 So what does it matter if it gets done now or later? 605 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,375 We can do both, Andy, we have two crews. 606 00:29:09,375 --> 00:29:11,792 Work with us, please. 607 00:29:11,792 --> 00:29:13,458 I'm losing my patience, okay? 608 00:29:13,458 --> 00:29:14,792 We got so far. 609 00:29:14,792 --> 00:29:17,708 Look what this crew did in a matter of hours. 610 00:29:17,708 --> 00:29:18,875 Come on, man, let's do it. 611 00:29:18,875 --> 00:29:20,292 I'm gonna shut this project down. 612 00:29:20,292 --> 00:29:21,917 [Gabe] Let's do it, man, come on. 613 00:29:21,917 --> 00:29:23,708 - [Brandon] Andy, Andy. - [Gabe] I'm with you. 614 00:29:23,708 --> 00:29:25,667 Andy is venting, he's feeling very frustrated 615 00:29:25,667 --> 00:29:27,000 that he's not being heard. 616 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,833 I got 21 properties out there 617 00:29:28,833 --> 00:29:30,917 that look over the fence and see my yard. 618 00:29:30,917 --> 00:29:31,917 Let's clean up the yard. 619 00:29:31,917 --> 00:29:33,208 The stuff that's in the buildings 620 00:29:33,208 --> 00:29:35,417 and that's outta sight is out of mind. 621 00:29:35,417 --> 00:29:38,875 It's important for me to try to keep his communication going 622 00:29:38,875 --> 00:29:41,708 so that he doesn't shut this whole project down. 623 00:29:41,708 --> 00:29:44,292 [tense music] 624 00:29:50,542 --> 00:29:52,667 We're going to finish through here. 625 00:29:52,667 --> 00:29:55,167 - Okay. - Work our way right around, 626 00:29:55,167 --> 00:29:58,083 and we're pretty much scrapping all this metal. 627 00:29:58,083 --> 00:30:00,583 We wanna get on the other side of this garage. 628 00:30:00,583 --> 00:30:02,667 I don't know if we'll get past that, 629 00:30:02,667 --> 00:30:05,708 but I would like to assume that we will. 630 00:30:05,708 --> 00:30:07,042 All right, so shall we continue? 631 00:30:07,042 --> 00:30:08,125 Yes. 632 00:30:08,125 --> 00:30:10,042 - Let's get going, guys. - All right, let's go. 633 00:30:10,042 --> 00:30:13,167 [tense music] [items clattering] 634 00:30:16,958 --> 00:30:19,042 That scrap metal will fill up the truck. 635 00:30:19,042 --> 00:30:20,792 Are you gonna roll it up? 636 00:30:24,708 --> 00:30:27,708 I think he's starting to get really scared and panicking 637 00:30:27,708 --> 00:30:29,958 because he knows we only have one day left, 638 00:30:29,958 --> 00:30:32,042 and once this manpower is gone, 639 00:30:32,042 --> 00:30:34,833 he's gonna be back on his own to clear this property. 640 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:37,792 [tense music] 641 00:30:46,333 --> 00:30:48,208 [tense music] 642 00:30:53,042 --> 00:30:56,042 Andy throws out a big surprise. 643 00:30:56,042 --> 00:30:58,167 He basically says that he is ready 644 00:30:58,167 --> 00:31:01,000 to let other people clean out the carport, 645 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,333 that he doesn't have to go through the individual items, 646 00:31:03,333 --> 00:31:07,208 and it can all go, with the exception of a couple boxes. 647 00:31:07,208 --> 00:31:08,500 Clear it out. 648 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,708 Oh, I can't believe it's gonna happen. 649 00:31:10,708 --> 00:31:13,042 I'm excited to see it again. 650 00:31:13,042 --> 00:31:15,667 Let's go. [all clapping] 651 00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:18,083 [tense music] 652 00:31:22,667 --> 00:31:24,333 Rat poo, rat poo. 653 00:31:35,375 --> 00:31:37,625 [intense music] 654 00:31:58,875 --> 00:31:59,875 [Andy] Ready? 655 00:31:59,875 --> 00:32:01,792 What's going on in here? 656 00:32:01,792 --> 00:32:05,625 Hi, Louise, come on into your carport. 657 00:32:05,625 --> 00:32:08,208 [bright music] 658 00:32:08,208 --> 00:32:09,792 [Louise] Oh, is it nice and clean? 659 00:32:09,792 --> 00:32:12,000 It is nice and clean just for you. 660 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,375 No way. 661 00:32:14,375 --> 00:32:19,208 I am very grateful for my son and his son 662 00:32:19,208 --> 00:32:21,208 to clean up the carport. 663 00:32:22,208 --> 00:32:25,542 Gee, I hadn't seen it clean like that for ages. 664 00:32:25,542 --> 00:32:27,458 How are you feeling? 665 00:32:27,458 --> 00:32:29,208 I feel like crying. 666 00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:32,708 Tears of happiness, yeah? 667 00:32:32,708 --> 00:32:34,333 This is nice. 668 00:32:34,333 --> 00:32:37,833 Well, Louise, it was very, very important to everybody 669 00:32:37,833 --> 00:32:39,250 to get this space cleared out. 670 00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:40,708 Andy, we couldn't have done it without you. 671 00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:43,333 Thank you for that, thanks for giving the go ahead. 672 00:32:43,333 --> 00:32:47,792 There's more in the back of the house to see, you ready? 673 00:32:47,792 --> 00:32:49,125 - Ready. - Okay. 674 00:32:49,125 --> 00:32:51,250 [bright music] 675 00:32:51,250 --> 00:32:54,042 - Oh my gosh. - Oh my gosh. 676 00:32:54,042 --> 00:32:56,042 Look at this. 677 00:32:56,042 --> 00:32:58,500 You've got a beautiful view here. 678 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:02,208 Got a nice table where you and Andy can maybe have 679 00:33:02,208 --> 00:33:04,167 some coffee in the morning or breakfast. 680 00:33:04,167 --> 00:33:06,083 The family can join you. 681 00:33:06,083 --> 00:33:07,917 There's so much more to this property 682 00:33:07,917 --> 00:33:09,875 that you guys can enjoy now. 683 00:33:09,875 --> 00:33:12,708 - Thank you. - [Robin] You're welcome. 684 00:33:12,708 --> 00:33:15,042 So Andy, how are you feeling about the progress 685 00:33:15,042 --> 00:33:17,708 that was made in such a short period of time? 686 00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:21,083 I'm surprised, I didn't think we'd get this far. 687 00:33:21,083 --> 00:33:23,917 This was one of the hardest hoarding projects 688 00:33:23,917 --> 00:33:25,458 that I've ever worked on 689 00:33:25,458 --> 00:33:28,917 because of the sheer mass and volume and density 690 00:33:28,917 --> 00:33:30,417 of the items in the backyard. 691 00:33:30,417 --> 00:33:34,042 We got rid of about 15 large truckloads of rubbish 692 00:33:34,042 --> 00:33:36,125 and debris from this property. 693 00:33:37,458 --> 00:33:40,542 I was given a heads up from the scrap metal company 694 00:33:40,542 --> 00:33:44,000 that you got about five truckloads of scrap metal. 695 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,625 That came to about $760. 696 00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:49,167 There are still some issues that need to be addressed. 697 00:33:49,167 --> 00:33:51,333 We still have the issue with the reverse mortgage company 698 00:33:51,333 --> 00:33:54,208 wanting to do the inspection, so that's another incentive 699 00:33:54,208 --> 00:33:56,458 to encourage you to continue doing this. 700 00:33:56,458 --> 00:33:58,375 In addition to that, the violations 701 00:33:58,375 --> 00:34:00,667 in the codes can come and will come, 702 00:34:00,667 --> 00:34:03,667 so we really want you guys to continue to work hard 703 00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:06,083 to finish the remaining portion of this project. 704 00:34:06,083 --> 00:34:09,292 It's only gonna be better for everyone involved. 705 00:34:09,292 --> 00:34:14,292 It was a successful cleanup to as much as we got done. 706 00:34:14,292 --> 00:34:17,333 I see the end of it, and I see when things start 707 00:34:17,333 --> 00:34:20,125 to be repaired and painted and fixed, 708 00:34:20,125 --> 00:34:23,292 and come back as nice as it was in the past. 709 00:34:25,542 --> 00:34:27,792 [gentle music] 710 00:34:55,958 --> 00:34:58,333 [gentle music] 711 00:35:05,167 --> 00:35:06,542 - Andy? - [Andy] Hi! 712 00:35:06,542 --> 00:35:08,500 - Hello, hi, how are you? - How you been? 713 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:11,500 I'm doing good, it's good to see you. 714 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:14,333 I'm walking up to the driveway, and there is Andy, 715 00:35:14,333 --> 00:35:18,375 exactly like he was a couple years ago when I saw him. 716 00:35:18,375 --> 00:35:21,833 There he is tinkering on another project. 717 00:35:21,833 --> 00:35:24,583 I see you're busy as ever. 718 00:35:24,583 --> 00:35:27,208 Yeah, I was back here breaking some stuff up earlier. 719 00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:29,542 - Yeah, yeah? - Staying busy. 720 00:35:29,542 --> 00:35:31,458 Yeah, yeah, and it looks like you have been busy. 721 00:35:31,458 --> 00:35:33,708 - I'm moving. - You're moving? 722 00:35:33,708 --> 00:35:37,042 Mom has passed, she died in June, June 10th. 723 00:35:37,042 --> 00:35:39,792 I'm sorry about your mother, Andy. 724 00:35:39,792 --> 00:35:42,125 I know you were very, very close to her. 725 00:35:42,125 --> 00:35:44,750 Well, I gave her her wish. 726 00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:47,208 She wanted to pass here at home. - [Robin] Yeah. 727 00:35:47,208 --> 00:35:51,833 Her son, her husband, this was her life. 728 00:35:51,833 --> 00:35:54,125 - Yeah, you honored her. - I did. 729 00:35:54,125 --> 00:35:55,583 I know a big reason for us 730 00:35:55,583 --> 00:35:58,042 to come here in the first place was 731 00:35:58,042 --> 00:36:00,250 to get the place cleaned up for your mother. 732 00:36:00,250 --> 00:36:01,792 Lot of memories here. 733 00:36:03,708 --> 00:36:05,125 A lot of memories. 734 00:36:09,875 --> 00:36:11,625 [tense music] 735 00:36:15,417 --> 00:36:17,458 We have a lot to talk about, 736 00:36:17,458 --> 00:36:20,833 and I mean, let's just kind of start right here. 737 00:36:20,833 --> 00:36:24,750 It looks better than the first time I came. 738 00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:26,458 It definitely looks better, 739 00:36:26,458 --> 00:36:30,958 but it looks like you've been collecting still a little bit. 740 00:36:30,958 --> 00:36:33,333 No, it's breaking them piles down. 741 00:36:33,333 --> 00:36:35,417 - [Robin] Okay. - And bringing stuff out. 742 00:36:35,417 --> 00:36:36,250 Okay. 743 00:36:36,250 --> 00:36:37,708 I don't collect anymore 744 00:36:37,708 --> 00:36:42,292 and I'm spending a lot of time getting rid of stuff. 745 00:36:42,292 --> 00:36:46,583 I sold the house, I'm trying to get it cleared out, 746 00:36:47,625 --> 00:36:49,708 and get my stuff off the property, 747 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:54,250 so I'm not overly pressured, but I'm pressured. 748 00:36:55,833 --> 00:36:58,417 I don't know how much stuff is in the backyard. 749 00:36:58,417 --> 00:36:59,792 I'm gonna need to go see, 750 00:36:59,792 --> 00:37:02,958 but this seems like a reasonable explanation 751 00:37:02,958 --> 00:37:05,417 for the stuff that's in the driveway. 752 00:37:05,417 --> 00:37:07,208 I've got a good sense of what's going on here. 753 00:37:07,208 --> 00:37:08,792 Can I see a little more? 754 00:37:10,333 --> 00:37:12,125 - You sure? - Oh, I'm sure. 755 00:37:12,125 --> 00:37:13,958 [laughs] Okay. 756 00:37:13,958 --> 00:37:16,333 [pensive music] 757 00:37:20,625 --> 00:37:24,250 Oh, the ever-famous carport. 758 00:37:24,250 --> 00:37:25,917 Andy walks me into the carport, 759 00:37:25,917 --> 00:37:29,083 and I see that it's pretty significantly cluttered. 760 00:37:29,083 --> 00:37:32,333 It looks like a lot of boxes, 761 00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:35,292 but it's nowhere near what it was like 762 00:37:35,292 --> 00:37:37,875 when we left where it was completely cleared. 763 00:37:37,875 --> 00:37:40,667 This is because you're looking to move, is that correct? 764 00:37:40,667 --> 00:37:42,208 I'm gonna be moving to Arizona. 765 00:37:42,208 --> 00:37:43,500 [Robin] Oh my gosh. 766 00:37:43,625 --> 00:37:46,833 I am interested in a piece of property in Arizona. 767 00:37:48,667 --> 00:37:54,583 I made an offer, but there's still a couple legal problems 768 00:37:55,542 --> 00:37:57,667 with the selling of the house and stuff 769 00:37:57,667 --> 00:38:01,333 that need to be straightened out before I can actually move, 770 00:38:01,333 --> 00:38:05,542 and I'm looking at probably 60 days or so 771 00:38:05,542 --> 00:38:07,208 before I'm actually out of here. 772 00:38:07,208 --> 00:38:10,333 And so is this house officially sold now? 773 00:38:10,333 --> 00:38:11,750 - Yes. - [Robin] It is, okay. 774 00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:13,667 They paid off the reverse mortgage. 775 00:38:13,667 --> 00:38:14,833 [Robin] Okay. 776 00:38:14,833 --> 00:38:18,500 They distributed funds into the trust account. 777 00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:20,708 It sounds like you have a lot on your plate. 778 00:38:20,708 --> 00:38:22,125 I mean, I can't even imagine. 779 00:38:22,125 --> 00:38:24,458 Sometimes it goes from worse to bad. 780 00:38:24,458 --> 00:38:28,208 Yeah, and I mean, dealing with the loss of your mother, 781 00:38:28,208 --> 00:38:30,875 and then all of this on top of it is a lot. 782 00:38:30,875 --> 00:38:35,375 I mean, that must have really affected you when she passed. 783 00:38:35,375 --> 00:38:37,625 It did, it did, it did. 784 00:38:39,042 --> 00:38:41,625 She was 94 and a half. 785 00:38:44,042 --> 00:38:47,750 And she almost made it to 95. 786 00:38:50,833 --> 00:38:53,708 It was very emotional. 787 00:38:55,167 --> 00:38:59,083 So how much time do you have to get this all cleaned up? 788 00:38:59,083 --> 00:39:03,375 I won't be leaving here until probably end of January. 789 00:39:03,375 --> 00:39:05,208 - Okay, so you got-- - I got time. 790 00:39:05,208 --> 00:39:06,417 Two months, yeah. 791 00:39:06,417 --> 00:39:07,542 Why don't we continue on, 792 00:39:07,542 --> 00:39:09,083 and I'd just like to see a little more 793 00:39:09,083 --> 00:39:11,708 of your property and then we can chat more, okay? 794 00:39:11,708 --> 00:39:12,875 Sure. 795 00:39:12,875 --> 00:39:15,292 [pensive music] 796 00:39:17,417 --> 00:39:20,792 All right, Andy, let's hold up here. 797 00:39:20,792 --> 00:39:25,708 I continue to be amazed about the fact that it doesn't look 798 00:39:25,708 --> 00:39:27,750 like he's brought more stuff on the property. 799 00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:31,667 You've done a really good job keeping it clear. 800 00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:35,292 Yes, there's a lot of clutter, but there's pathways 801 00:39:35,292 --> 00:39:38,375 and I'm not feeling unsafe, I'm not tripping over things, 802 00:39:38,375 --> 00:39:39,833 I'm not having to move things, 803 00:39:39,833 --> 00:39:44,542 and I really feel that Andy benefited 804 00:39:44,542 --> 00:39:46,875 from the time that we were here, 805 00:39:46,875 --> 00:39:50,708 and that he does not want to re-hoard this property. 806 00:39:50,708 --> 00:39:52,625 Did you take care of the aftercare 807 00:39:52,625 --> 00:39:55,125 that we gave you, the therapy? 808 00:39:55,125 --> 00:39:56,708 Or have someone come and help you? 809 00:39:56,708 --> 00:39:58,542 No, there was just too much with Mom. 810 00:39:58,542 --> 00:40:00,875 She started to go downhill. - Okay. 811 00:40:03,125 --> 00:40:06,250 And I wasn't up to par either. 812 00:40:06,250 --> 00:40:07,583 What's going on with you? 813 00:40:07,583 --> 00:40:10,708 Yeah, I wasn't feeling too good when, 814 00:40:10,708 --> 00:40:13,542 just before Mom passed, 'cause it was getting harder 815 00:40:13,542 --> 00:40:15,542 for me to lift her and move her, 816 00:40:15,542 --> 00:40:19,750 and I felt like I had pulled the muscle in my chest 817 00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:21,875 or something, and every time I ate, 818 00:40:21,875 --> 00:40:24,208 it'd sit right where the ribs come together, 819 00:40:24,208 --> 00:40:29,667 and so I couldn't take the time to go to the doctor. 820 00:40:29,667 --> 00:40:33,500 So when she did pass and I went in, 821 00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:36,875 they said I had cancer of the pancreas. 822 00:40:36,875 --> 00:40:38,583 Oh my gosh. 823 00:40:38,583 --> 00:40:41,167 And my world came crashing down. 824 00:40:41,167 --> 00:40:43,375 [somber music] 825 00:40:43,375 --> 00:40:46,708 It did, it really just came crashing down, 826 00:40:46,708 --> 00:40:48,625 'cause there was so much going on, 827 00:40:50,167 --> 00:40:51,667 I didn't know what to do. 828 00:40:52,875 --> 00:40:56,042 [Robin] I'm sorry, Andy, I'm so sorry. 829 00:40:56,042 --> 00:40:59,625 But I'm going through chemo, I got one more to go. 830 00:40:59,625 --> 00:41:02,208 Most people when they get pancreatic cancer, 831 00:41:02,208 --> 00:41:05,000 it's too late to do anything for it, 832 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,208 but mine was just at the beginning. 833 00:41:08,208 --> 00:41:10,042 This must be really scary for you. 834 00:41:10,042 --> 00:41:11,375 [Andy] It is. 835 00:41:11,375 --> 00:41:14,708 But it sounds in the midst of this diagnosis 836 00:41:14,708 --> 00:41:16,750 that your prognosis is good? 837 00:41:16,750 --> 00:41:19,208 Yes, they say it's very good. 838 00:41:19,208 --> 00:41:22,708 You are looking at your future, 839 00:41:22,708 --> 00:41:24,625 and with this diagnosis, 840 00:41:24,625 --> 00:41:29,000 you deserve to be in a place that is clutter free. 841 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,292 You're going to Arizona, 842 00:41:30,292 --> 00:41:33,083 you're gonna be on the Colorado River in your boat, 843 00:41:33,083 --> 00:41:35,958 and you know, I just- 844 00:41:35,958 --> 00:41:38,792 - It's gonna be my retirement. - It's your retirement. 845 00:41:38,792 --> 00:41:41,458 I think that Andy is starting to see 846 00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:44,333 how he can take the circumstances in his life 847 00:41:44,333 --> 00:41:47,833 and turn them into something that can be positive for him. 848 00:41:47,833 --> 00:41:51,625 I wish you the best, and you know what, 849 00:41:51,625 --> 00:41:54,958 if I am driving through Arizona, I am gonna give you a call 850 00:41:54,958 --> 00:41:57,750 and say, "Hey, you know what, let's get that boat. 851 00:41:57,750 --> 00:42:00,375 Let's hit the river," okay? 852 00:42:00,375 --> 00:42:02,042 But again, such a pleasure to see you, 853 00:42:02,042 --> 00:42:04,625 and thank you for inviting me back to your home. 854 00:42:04,625 --> 00:42:05,667 You're more than welcome. 855 00:42:05,667 --> 00:42:06,917 All right, you take good care. 856 00:42:06,917 --> 00:42:09,083 - I'm gonna try. - All right, okay. 857 00:42:09,083 --> 00:42:10,375 [Andy] I appreciate it. 858 00:42:10,375 --> 00:42:12,833 [tense music]