1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,335 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:03,335 --> 00:00:06,168 I do have some collections, 3 00:00:06,168 --> 00:00:09,376 but I also overdone it a little bit. 4 00:00:10,335 --> 00:00:11,918 If we don't clean the house, 5 00:00:11,918 --> 00:00:13,668 code enforcement, they can evict us. 6 00:00:15,168 --> 00:00:16,751 We're landlocked. 7 00:00:16,751 --> 00:00:18,126 They can't bring anything else out. 8 00:00:18,126 --> 00:00:20,376 We need to speed this process up. 9 00:00:21,251 --> 00:00:24,585 [dramatic music continues] 10 00:00:24,585 --> 00:00:26,126 [Cory knocking on door] 11 00:00:26,126 --> 00:00:28,626 This living room that I worked so hard on 12 00:00:28,626 --> 00:00:30,001 is completely full again. 13 00:00:30,001 --> 00:00:31,668 [Meryl] I don't know what the future holds. 14 00:00:31,668 --> 00:00:32,501 [Cory] I know. 15 00:00:32,501 --> 00:00:33,293 It's hard. 16 00:00:34,585 --> 00:00:37,293 After he died, that this became a disaster. 17 00:00:37,293 --> 00:00:40,793 [dramatic music continues] 18 00:00:44,418 --> 00:00:45,543 20 cents. 19 00:00:45,543 --> 00:00:48,251 You're getting hung up on a plastic piece. 20 00:00:49,793 --> 00:00:52,085 When I saw Dorothy coming around the corner, 21 00:00:52,085 --> 00:00:55,085 I know today's gonna be a good experience. 22 00:00:55,085 --> 00:00:56,168 Mom? 23 00:00:56,168 --> 00:00:57,543 - Where is she? - Oh my gosh. 24 00:00:57,543 --> 00:00:59,168 Oh, Dorothy. 25 00:01:00,876 --> 00:01:04,085 [slow dramatic music] 26 00:01:16,293 --> 00:01:19,543 [gentle ominous music] 27 00:01:35,585 --> 00:01:38,210 [gentle music] 28 00:01:48,376 --> 00:01:50,251 I'm Meryl, and I'm a hoarder. 29 00:01:51,918 --> 00:01:52,751 A saver. 30 00:01:54,043 --> 00:01:54,793 A squanderer. 31 00:01:59,168 --> 00:02:02,710 I think I do have some collections 32 00:02:03,793 --> 00:02:04,668 that are worth things. 33 00:02:04,668 --> 00:02:06,710 To me, anyways. 34 00:02:06,710 --> 00:02:11,418 But I also know that I've overdone it a little bit, 35 00:02:12,918 --> 00:02:16,251 and now it's overtaking my life. 36 00:02:18,876 --> 00:02:21,751 I'm Kevin, I'm Mel's husband. 37 00:02:21,751 --> 00:02:27,043 Me and Mel have been married since May 12th, 1990. 38 00:02:27,043 --> 00:02:28,751 So that would be 30 years. 39 00:02:29,918 --> 00:02:33,918 Some people would say, how can you deal with her? 40 00:02:33,918 --> 00:02:34,793 I love her. 41 00:02:34,793 --> 00:02:36,251 I really do. 42 00:02:36,251 --> 00:02:38,418 And I wanna spend the rest of my life with her. 43 00:02:38,418 --> 00:02:41,626 But she has to throw stuff out. 44 00:02:41,626 --> 00:02:45,251 There's no if or buts about it, she has to throw stuff out. 45 00:02:45,251 --> 00:02:48,668 [gentle music continues] 46 00:02:53,001 --> 00:02:57,460 In 1997, we bought this home, and no sooner did we get it, 47 00:02:57,460 --> 00:02:59,835 but my mother had passed away. 48 00:02:59,835 --> 00:03:02,376 She brought everything from her mother's house 49 00:03:02,376 --> 00:03:04,210 into our house. 50 00:03:04,210 --> 00:03:08,293 Her game plan was she's gonna decipher through 51 00:03:08,293 --> 00:03:10,918 what she wanted and what she wanted to throw away 52 00:03:10,918 --> 00:03:12,335 or give away. 53 00:03:12,335 --> 00:03:13,710 It never happened. 54 00:03:15,751 --> 00:03:18,751 90% of her stuff is down in my basement. 55 00:03:18,751 --> 00:03:20,793 And I will admit, I'll be the first to admit, 56 00:03:20,793 --> 00:03:23,876 I could not bear to part with many of those things. 57 00:03:23,876 --> 00:03:25,043 Even her hair curlers. 58 00:03:25,043 --> 00:03:27,376 I would smell 'em and smell like her, 59 00:03:27,376 --> 00:03:31,001 and I didn't want to get rid of them. 60 00:03:31,001 --> 00:03:34,251 We could still function up here on the first floor. 61 00:03:34,251 --> 00:03:36,293 My husband and I could actually sit in the living room 62 00:03:36,293 --> 00:03:38,335 and watch television and whatnot. 63 00:03:41,876 --> 00:03:44,876 And then slowly but surely... 64 00:03:46,918 --> 00:03:48,335 I have lymphedema. 65 00:03:49,126 --> 00:03:50,626 And it started to get bad. 66 00:03:50,626 --> 00:03:52,293 And before I knew it, you know, 67 00:03:52,293 --> 00:03:53,918 I wasn't able to climb stuff anymore. 68 00:03:53,918 --> 00:03:55,876 I wasn't able to put things away anymore. 69 00:03:55,876 --> 00:03:56,918 I wasn't able to do stuff. 70 00:03:58,543 --> 00:04:02,001 [gentle melancholic music] 71 00:04:05,626 --> 00:04:09,501 I needed to sit every like 15 minutes every two hours. 72 00:04:09,501 --> 00:04:12,210 And the trial court said, "Nah, you have to be 73 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:13,668 in totally good health to do this job. 74 00:04:13,668 --> 00:04:15,293 So, bye." 75 00:04:15,293 --> 00:04:19,585 [gentle melancholic music continues] 76 00:04:23,043 --> 00:04:25,501 I'd come home with bags and bags. 77 00:04:25,501 --> 00:04:27,335 And how did I feel when I got home with that? 78 00:04:27,335 --> 00:04:29,585 I felt like Christmas had come. 79 00:04:29,585 --> 00:04:33,043 [slow suspenseful music] 80 00:04:38,626 --> 00:04:42,793 If we don't clean the house, the code enforcements, 81 00:04:42,793 --> 00:04:45,460 they can evict us outta our own home, 82 00:04:45,460 --> 00:04:49,501 and they can have us pay for the clean out. 83 00:04:49,501 --> 00:04:53,418 [suspenseful music continues] 84 00:04:57,043 --> 00:04:58,210 [Cory] Good morning, everyone. 85 00:04:58,210 --> 00:04:59,710 [All] Good morning. 86 00:04:59,710 --> 00:05:01,543 I'm Cory Chalmers, an extreme cleaner 87 00:05:01,543 --> 00:05:04,085 that specializes in biohazard and hoarding. 88 00:05:04,085 --> 00:05:06,001 Meryl, how you doing so far? 89 00:05:06,001 --> 00:05:07,835 I'm still upright. 90 00:05:07,835 --> 00:05:09,126 [Cory] That's good. 91 00:05:09,126 --> 00:05:11,210 [Meryl] Little anxious, little excited. 92 00:05:11,210 --> 00:05:12,126 Good. 93 00:05:12,126 --> 00:05:13,418 That's to be expected. 94 00:05:13,418 --> 00:05:14,918 If you weren't, I would say something's wrong. 95 00:05:14,918 --> 00:05:15,751 That's right. 96 00:05:15,751 --> 00:05:17,126 Then I probably would be down. 97 00:05:17,126 --> 00:05:18,793 Yes, yes, absolutely. 98 00:05:18,793 --> 00:05:19,876 [Cory] Right on. 99 00:05:19,876 --> 00:05:23,251 So, Kevin, how are you feeling right now? 100 00:05:23,251 --> 00:05:24,960 You're excited? 101 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:25,918 Okay. 102 00:05:25,918 --> 00:05:26,918 All right. 103 00:05:26,918 --> 00:05:28,585 Any anxiety on your part? 104 00:05:28,585 --> 00:05:31,043 Or are you just ready to hit the ground running? 105 00:05:31,043 --> 00:05:32,251 Hit the ground running. 106 00:05:32,251 --> 00:05:33,293 Okay. 107 00:05:33,293 --> 00:05:34,751 Corey, what's our plan? 108 00:05:34,751 --> 00:05:37,251 We're gonna bring things out under the tents 109 00:05:37,251 --> 00:05:39,543 and stuff for right now, to start sorting, 110 00:05:39,543 --> 00:05:41,335 start learning what you think of things, 111 00:05:41,335 --> 00:05:42,918 how you make decisions, 112 00:05:42,918 --> 00:05:44,501 so that we can kind of build off that 113 00:05:44,501 --> 00:05:45,918 to make a bigger game plan. 114 00:05:45,918 --> 00:05:47,126 Any other questions? 115 00:05:47,126 --> 00:05:48,418 Nope. 116 00:05:48,418 --> 00:05:49,168 [Cory] All right, well, let's get started. 117 00:05:49,168 --> 00:05:50,085 - Okay. - All right. 118 00:05:50,085 --> 00:05:52,835 [intense music] 119 00:05:57,543 --> 00:05:58,835 As you can see in your back door, 120 00:05:58,835 --> 00:06:01,543 we have a line of people with boxes, bags. 121 00:06:01,543 --> 00:06:02,918 They're gonna start filling up 122 00:06:02,918 --> 00:06:04,876 and bringing out to the sorting table. 123 00:06:09,585 --> 00:06:11,626 I'm not really crazy about it. 124 00:06:13,168 --> 00:06:14,585 That we can get rid of. 125 00:06:14,585 --> 00:06:15,418 [Cory] Oh, perfect. 126 00:06:15,418 --> 00:06:16,585 Trash. 127 00:06:16,585 --> 00:06:18,501 No, you can throw those. 128 00:06:19,293 --> 00:06:20,626 It's okay. 129 00:06:20,626 --> 00:06:22,501 We'll just wipe out that entire pile right now. 130 00:06:24,085 --> 00:06:25,418 Are you serious? 131 00:06:25,418 --> 00:06:27,126 That whole pile can just go? 132 00:06:27,126 --> 00:06:27,960 [Meryl] Everything else can go. 133 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,251 [Cory] Oh my gosh. 134 00:06:29,251 --> 00:06:31,418 [all cheering] 135 00:06:31,418 --> 00:06:32,876 All right, wow. 136 00:06:39,876 --> 00:06:42,626 This was my mother's, so this is gonna be a little tough. 137 00:06:49,876 --> 00:06:50,751 I just... 138 00:06:51,918 --> 00:06:57,043 I don't need it, I just wanna say goodbye, that's all. 139 00:06:57,376 --> 00:06:58,793 Okay? 140 00:06:58,793 --> 00:07:01,085 [Robin] Have you said goodbye to your mom? 141 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,293 [Meryl] I know it's silly, I just... 142 00:07:05,293 --> 00:07:06,668 [Robin] Why is it silly? 143 00:07:07,751 --> 00:07:10,085 This is just a stupid little vase, but... 144 00:07:12,585 --> 00:07:16,585 But it connects you to your mom, does it not? 145 00:07:16,585 --> 00:07:19,585 And so, if this is something 146 00:07:19,585 --> 00:07:21,668 that you feel connects you to her, 147 00:07:21,668 --> 00:07:24,085 it's okay to keep it. 148 00:07:24,085 --> 00:07:25,835 Okay, then I'd like to keep it, please. 149 00:07:25,835 --> 00:07:26,626 All right. 150 00:07:26,626 --> 00:07:28,793 I think that's a good decision. 151 00:07:28,793 --> 00:07:29,585 All right. 152 00:07:29,585 --> 00:07:31,043 I'm glad you took a moment 153 00:07:31,043 --> 00:07:33,085 and I'm glad that you could get real with this. 154 00:07:33,085 --> 00:07:34,418 I'm glad I... 155 00:07:34,418 --> 00:07:35,835 [Robin] And feel what you needed to feel. 156 00:07:38,543 --> 00:07:42,210 [gentle melancholic music] 157 00:07:51,501 --> 00:07:53,293 I only want one of these. 158 00:07:53,293 --> 00:07:54,751 I don't want 20 of them, so... 159 00:07:54,751 --> 00:07:55,918 Is this the one you're gonna keep? 160 00:07:55,918 --> 00:07:56,835 [Meryl] Yeah, that's fine. 161 00:07:56,835 --> 00:07:57,585 That's fine. 162 00:07:57,585 --> 00:07:59,043 [Robin] Yeah, all right. 163 00:07:59,043 --> 00:08:01,293 Meryl continues to be really easy to work with. 164 00:08:01,293 --> 00:08:03,293 It's the elements and other things 165 00:08:03,293 --> 00:08:05,001 that are slowing us down, I think. 166 00:08:05,918 --> 00:08:08,626 We're limited to this 20 foot tent. 167 00:08:08,626 --> 00:08:09,793 We're landlocked. 168 00:08:09,793 --> 00:08:10,960 They can't bring anything else out. 169 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:11,918 Okay. 170 00:08:11,918 --> 00:08:13,501 We need to speed this process up. 171 00:08:13,501 --> 00:08:15,418 Can we please get your family 172 00:08:15,418 --> 00:08:16,918 in the house to make decisions? 173 00:08:16,918 --> 00:08:18,918 It would really help us a lot. 174 00:08:18,918 --> 00:08:20,585 I know I might be kicking myself in the ass later, 175 00:08:20,585 --> 00:08:22,501 but yeah, okay. 176 00:08:22,501 --> 00:08:24,960 Let them come in the house right now 177 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,001 so that they can come in forever in the future. 178 00:08:27,001 --> 00:08:28,085 Okay, that's fine. 179 00:08:28,085 --> 00:08:29,543 We'll make some good decisions, I promise. 180 00:08:29,543 --> 00:08:30,626 Okay. 181 00:08:31,460 --> 00:08:34,751 [slow dramatic music] 182 00:08:46,543 --> 00:08:50,626 [slow dramatic music continues] 183 00:08:52,793 --> 00:08:55,460 Anything that doesn't seem sentimental 184 00:08:55,460 --> 00:08:56,460 is trash at this point. 185 00:08:56,460 --> 00:08:57,585 Yeah. 186 00:08:57,585 --> 00:08:58,543 You need these? 187 00:08:59,501 --> 00:09:00,585 Yes, please. 188 00:09:00,585 --> 00:09:02,585 This is 2013. 189 00:09:02,585 --> 00:09:03,793 We're shredding. 190 00:09:06,376 --> 00:09:08,918 [tense music] 191 00:09:14,043 --> 00:09:15,335 Good job. 192 00:09:15,335 --> 00:09:17,376 What a good job. 193 00:09:17,376 --> 00:09:20,751 [tense music continues] 194 00:09:32,335 --> 00:09:35,710 [tense music continues] 195 00:09:47,376 --> 00:09:50,793 [tense music continues] 196 00:09:53,460 --> 00:09:55,168 Home sweet home. 197 00:09:55,168 --> 00:09:56,043 Ooh. 198 00:09:58,668 --> 00:10:00,376 Holy moly. 199 00:10:00,376 --> 00:10:02,168 It's a real kitchen. 200 00:10:02,168 --> 00:10:04,085 Unbelievable. 201 00:10:04,085 --> 00:10:05,168 Wow. 202 00:10:05,168 --> 00:10:06,835 Wowee. 203 00:10:06,835 --> 00:10:10,001 Not only is it spacious, but it's clean and functional. 204 00:10:11,460 --> 00:10:12,960 Oh my, look at that. 205 00:10:15,751 --> 00:10:16,918 [Kevin] Wow. 206 00:10:16,918 --> 00:10:17,835 Wow. 207 00:10:17,835 --> 00:10:20,168 Oh, that's wonderful. 208 00:10:20,168 --> 00:10:21,668 Oh, wow. 209 00:10:21,668 --> 00:10:25,501 I can actually sit down a table. 210 00:10:25,501 --> 00:10:28,168 The outcome today, it's beautiful. 211 00:10:30,668 --> 00:10:34,376 I can't say anything else, but thank you. 212 00:10:34,376 --> 00:10:36,001 Oh my God. 213 00:10:36,001 --> 00:10:38,251 - Oh wow. - It's wonderful. 214 00:10:38,251 --> 00:10:42,168 [gentle uplifting music] 215 00:10:42,168 --> 00:10:42,960 - Wow. - Look at this. 216 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,918 I can't even believe it. 217 00:10:43,918 --> 00:10:45,918 It's so wonderful, I just... 218 00:10:45,918 --> 00:10:47,876 More than I expected. 219 00:10:47,876 --> 00:10:49,501 [Cory] One more room that we gotta go see 220 00:10:49,501 --> 00:10:50,876 and that is yours. 221 00:10:52,168 --> 00:10:53,543 Oh my God. 222 00:10:53,543 --> 00:10:55,085 [Meryl gasps] 223 00:10:55,085 --> 00:10:55,876 Oh my God. 224 00:10:57,335 --> 00:10:58,210 Oh my... 225 00:10:59,501 --> 00:11:01,876 Oh, it's wonderful. 226 00:11:01,876 --> 00:11:03,710 So that's a new bed for you, Meryl. 227 00:11:03,710 --> 00:11:04,751 Oh thank you. 228 00:11:05,585 --> 00:11:07,001 You're welcome. 229 00:11:07,001 --> 00:11:08,626 The good news is we were able to clear so much out 230 00:11:08,626 --> 00:11:11,751 that she has a very beautiful and safe, functional house. 231 00:11:11,751 --> 00:11:13,085 The city will not have any problems 232 00:11:13,085 --> 00:11:14,835 when they come and reinspect it. 233 00:11:14,835 --> 00:11:17,585 So tears of joy or tears of sorrow, 234 00:11:17,585 --> 00:11:19,460 because all of your stuff is gone? 235 00:11:19,460 --> 00:11:22,251 No, it's, I'm pretty happy. 236 00:11:22,251 --> 00:11:26,001 Now that the process is over, I feel so 237 00:11:26,751 --> 00:11:28,126 liberated. 238 00:11:28,126 --> 00:11:28,876 I'm free! 239 00:11:28,876 --> 00:11:30,751 Magnificent. 240 00:11:30,751 --> 00:11:32,626 It's a great feeling. 241 00:11:32,626 --> 00:11:33,835 It's really, really wonderful. 242 00:11:33,835 --> 00:11:35,501 And I can't thank... 243 00:11:35,501 --> 00:11:38,585 Everybody here, what they've done is just great. 244 00:11:38,585 --> 00:11:40,876 All right everybody, congratulations. 245 00:11:40,876 --> 00:11:43,460 This was beyond a team effort. 246 00:11:43,460 --> 00:11:45,293 We are gonna take off 247 00:11:45,293 --> 00:11:48,085 and we're gonna let you enjoy your time together. 248 00:11:48,085 --> 00:11:48,960 Thank you. 249 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,460 [Kevin] Thank you very much. 250 00:11:50,460 --> 00:11:51,793 It's been wonderful knowing you and getting to meet you. 251 00:11:51,793 --> 00:11:53,335 And thank you for all your help. 252 00:11:54,418 --> 00:11:57,043 [gentle music] 253 00:12:16,835 --> 00:12:18,876 [suspenseful music] 254 00:12:27,168 --> 00:12:28,918 I'm Cory Chalmers, an extreme cleaner 255 00:12:28,918 --> 00:12:31,710 that specializes in biohazard and hoarding. 256 00:12:31,710 --> 00:12:34,043 As I'm walking to the house to meet Meryl, 257 00:12:34,043 --> 00:12:36,710 I'm really anticipating that she's kept it clean. 258 00:12:36,710 --> 00:12:38,251 We did a lot of work for her, 259 00:12:38,251 --> 00:12:39,876 and the house looked great when we left, 260 00:12:39,876 --> 00:12:41,251 so I'm hoping that that's what it's gonna look like 261 00:12:41,251 --> 00:12:43,293 when I get inside. 262 00:12:43,293 --> 00:12:46,418 [Cory knocking on door] 263 00:12:48,876 --> 00:12:49,918 Hello. - Oh. 264 00:12:50,668 --> 00:12:52,168 Well, we'll let you in. 265 00:12:52,168 --> 00:12:53,168 Come on in. 266 00:12:53,168 --> 00:12:54,668 You gorgeous guy. - How are you? 267 00:12:54,668 --> 00:12:56,085 So good to see you. 268 00:12:56,085 --> 00:12:57,085 How you been? - It's wonderful to see you. 269 00:12:57,085 --> 00:12:59,751 Well, I'm still on two feet sort of. 270 00:12:59,751 --> 00:13:00,585 Yeah. 271 00:13:00,585 --> 00:13:01,585 Well, let's go inside. 272 00:13:01,585 --> 00:13:02,835 Let's catch up. - So... 273 00:13:02,835 --> 00:13:03,835 Come on in. Let me take a look around 274 00:13:03,835 --> 00:13:04,918 and let's see what's going on, okay? 275 00:13:04,918 --> 00:13:06,126 [Meryl] Come on in. 276 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,918 So I'm walking inside and instantly 277 00:13:08,918 --> 00:13:11,418 this living room that I worked so hard on 278 00:13:11,418 --> 00:13:13,210 is completely full again. 279 00:13:13,210 --> 00:13:14,835 I just can't believe that she's gone 280 00:13:14,835 --> 00:13:17,210 from what we left her with to this mess. 281 00:13:18,126 --> 00:13:21,001 This is not how we left it, Meryl. 282 00:13:21,001 --> 00:13:24,043 Would you believe me if I told you a little elf did it? 283 00:13:24,043 --> 00:13:26,126 I think I know who that little elf is, 284 00:13:26,126 --> 00:13:27,210 but we'll get to that. 285 00:13:27,210 --> 00:13:29,293 So what happened to the wood floors 286 00:13:29,293 --> 00:13:32,251 that I worked so hard on to expose for you? 287 00:13:32,251 --> 00:13:34,251 Well, some are still exposed. 288 00:13:34,251 --> 00:13:36,001 We still have the rugs that you 289 00:13:36,001 --> 00:13:38,043 very, very nicely got for us. 290 00:13:38,043 --> 00:13:41,418 And we still have those and they're holding up beautifully. 291 00:13:41,418 --> 00:13:43,960 But we have a few spots of wood you can still see. 292 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,501 It's a long story. 293 00:13:45,501 --> 00:13:48,085 When you say holding up, holding up the clutter? 294 00:13:49,043 --> 00:13:50,710 It's not all clutter. 295 00:13:50,710 --> 00:13:52,085 Honest to God, it isn't. 296 00:13:52,085 --> 00:13:53,251 What's going on? 297 00:13:53,251 --> 00:13:54,751 How did it get full again like this? 298 00:13:54,751 --> 00:13:57,918 One thing was we had a storage room 299 00:13:57,918 --> 00:14:03,626 and we had in it several things that we wanted to save. 300 00:14:03,626 --> 00:14:05,168 Then all of a sudden I got a notice 301 00:14:05,168 --> 00:14:07,376 saying it was going up to $300 a month. 302 00:14:07,376 --> 00:14:09,043 And I was like, what? 303 00:14:09,043 --> 00:14:12,626 So I gathered up a gentleman, a local guy, 304 00:14:12,626 --> 00:14:15,251 and he helped me clear it out. 305 00:14:15,251 --> 00:14:17,751 And where else were we gonna bring it? 306 00:14:17,751 --> 00:14:19,168 Right here. 307 00:14:19,168 --> 00:14:21,168 Why did you decide to bring stuff 308 00:14:21,168 --> 00:14:23,710 that had been in storage for years home and 309 00:14:23,710 --> 00:14:24,751 instantly clutter it back up. - Because we couldn't pay 310 00:14:24,751 --> 00:14:25,793 the 300. 311 00:14:25,918 --> 00:14:26,918 [Cory] What about letting it go? 312 00:14:26,918 --> 00:14:27,960 Well, I guess I could have, but... 313 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,043 You had a fully functional house. 314 00:14:29,043 --> 00:14:30,876 You had everything you needed here. 315 00:14:30,876 --> 00:14:32,960 You have probably paid thousands of dollars more 316 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,501 than whatever the value of anything in there is. 317 00:14:35,501 --> 00:14:37,626 I would've hoped you would've said, you know what? 318 00:14:37,626 --> 00:14:38,793 I'm not gonna do this. 319 00:14:38,793 --> 00:14:40,418 I'm gonna let that storage unit go 320 00:14:40,418 --> 00:14:42,543 because I have everything I need at home. 321 00:14:42,543 --> 00:14:43,710 Yeah, I guess I could have. 322 00:14:43,710 --> 00:14:45,710 I think because cabinets and closets, 323 00:14:45,710 --> 00:14:47,210 everything wasn't done. 324 00:14:47,210 --> 00:14:49,251 So as I slowly went through boxes 325 00:14:49,251 --> 00:14:51,543 and found things that I wanted to save, 326 00:14:51,543 --> 00:14:52,918 I couldn't put them right away 327 00:14:52,918 --> 00:14:54,501 because those things are still packed to the hills. 328 00:14:54,501 --> 00:14:55,876 Do you save too much? 329 00:14:57,585 --> 00:14:58,835 That's my question. 330 00:14:58,835 --> 00:15:00,418 Are you still saving too much? 331 00:15:00,418 --> 00:15:01,251 Well, I'm... 332 00:15:01,251 --> 00:15:02,501 Before you answer that. 333 00:15:02,501 --> 00:15:03,960 No, because if I empty out that closet- 334 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,751 Before you answer that, look behind you. 335 00:15:06,751 --> 00:15:07,668 Okay. 336 00:15:07,668 --> 00:15:09,085 [Cory] Do you save too much? 337 00:15:09,085 --> 00:15:09,918 [Meryl] Maybe so. 338 00:15:09,918 --> 00:15:11,543 No, no, no, no. 339 00:15:11,543 --> 00:15:13,543 How can you say maybe? 340 00:15:13,543 --> 00:15:15,085 Because some of this... 341 00:15:15,085 --> 00:15:17,918 The stuff on the right right here is Christmas present 342 00:15:17,918 --> 00:15:19,710 we just got ourselves, 343 00:15:19,710 --> 00:15:22,335 and we need somebody to help us to learn how to hook it up. 344 00:15:22,335 --> 00:15:24,918 It's really difficult to have a conversation with Meryl 345 00:15:24,918 --> 00:15:27,293 because she just goes off on these stories. 346 00:15:27,293 --> 00:15:29,710 The pillows, I keep changing different, 347 00:15:29,710 --> 00:15:32,376 because of my illness and because of my being in pain, 348 00:15:32,376 --> 00:15:35,210 I keep trying, as my legs morph and my back, 349 00:15:35,210 --> 00:15:36,793 I sort of change pillows. 350 00:15:36,793 --> 00:15:37,835 Sometimes I use a big one. 351 00:15:37,835 --> 00:15:39,210 Sometimes it's small. 352 00:15:39,210 --> 00:15:41,085 Mmm-hmm. So, I have lots of choices. 353 00:15:41,085 --> 00:15:44,751 I need Meryl to stop focusing on the minutia. 354 00:15:44,751 --> 00:15:46,751 She's in the weeds on so much stuff 355 00:15:46,751 --> 00:15:49,043 and there's a big plan that needs to be made here. 356 00:15:49,043 --> 00:15:50,585 And if she can focus on the bigger picture 357 00:15:50,585 --> 00:15:52,793 and stop worrying about each individual thing, 358 00:15:52,793 --> 00:15:54,210 I think we can make a lot of progress 359 00:15:54,210 --> 00:15:56,876 and help her get to the next chapter in her life. 360 00:15:56,876 --> 00:15:58,376 What's your plan moving forward? 361 00:15:58,376 --> 00:15:59,918 We've had a lot of things happening 362 00:15:59,918 --> 00:16:02,126 and medically we're not doing well. 363 00:16:02,126 --> 00:16:04,293 My husband's been diagnosed with Alzheimer's 364 00:16:04,293 --> 00:16:08,210 and he also needs several surgeries. 365 00:16:08,210 --> 00:16:10,918 With me, my legs and feet are getting so bad 366 00:16:10,918 --> 00:16:13,251 that I can't even get in my car. 367 00:16:13,251 --> 00:16:14,710 It is so hard to walk. 368 00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:17,418 It feels like I have a rubber tire around both legs. 369 00:16:17,418 --> 00:16:19,418 And right now they're probably about a hundred pounds. 370 00:16:19,418 --> 00:16:20,918 Okay, so with all that you just told me, 371 00:16:20,918 --> 00:16:22,876 what is your life plan? 372 00:16:22,876 --> 00:16:23,918 We wanna move. 373 00:16:23,918 --> 00:16:25,376 We wanna sell the house. 374 00:16:25,376 --> 00:16:26,168 And where are you gonna go? 375 00:16:26,168 --> 00:16:27,626 We are looking... 376 00:16:27,626 --> 00:16:29,793 We've already started looking at like assisted living. 377 00:16:29,793 --> 00:16:32,001 Okay, so you're looking at either a studio or one bedroom. 378 00:16:32,001 --> 00:16:33,168 [Meryl] Mm-hmm. 379 00:16:33,168 --> 00:16:34,001 When you're going through this, 380 00:16:34,001 --> 00:16:35,751 everything has a use still, 381 00:16:35,751 --> 00:16:37,251 but not to the new life, right? 382 00:16:37,251 --> 00:16:38,085 No. 383 00:16:38,085 --> 00:16:39,210 Well, I guess not. 384 00:16:39,210 --> 00:16:40,085 You're right, I mean, like... 385 00:16:40,085 --> 00:16:40,918 [Cory] Don't. 386 00:16:40,918 --> 00:16:41,793 Just stop, stop. 387 00:16:41,793 --> 00:16:43,501 Stop. 388 00:16:43,501 --> 00:16:44,751 - Maybe I fast analyze too much. - [Cory] You get going too fast. 389 00:16:44,751 --> 00:16:45,751 [Cory] You do. 390 00:16:45,751 --> 00:16:46,626 You know what I'm saying? 391 00:16:46,626 --> 00:16:47,751 You're moving to a studio. 392 00:16:47,751 --> 00:16:49,168 What do you need this for? 393 00:16:49,168 --> 00:16:49,960 [Meryl] Well, we were gonna put that 394 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,418 outside the other day. 395 00:16:51,418 --> 00:16:52,501 [Cory] In your new life, what do you need this for? 396 00:16:52,501 --> 00:16:53,501 [Meryl] We don't. 397 00:16:53,501 --> 00:16:54,293 In your studio, what do you need? 398 00:16:54,293 --> 00:16:55,210 What's ever in this? 399 00:16:55,210 --> 00:16:56,585 What do you need this? 400 00:16:56,585 --> 00:16:58,126 Ask yourself that for every single thing in here, 401 00:16:58,126 --> 00:17:01,835 because you're gonna take about 2 or 3% of this stuff 402 00:17:01,835 --> 00:17:03,126 to the new place. 403 00:17:03,126 --> 00:17:06,251 When we leave, how are you gonna manage that? 404 00:17:06,251 --> 00:17:09,085 Physically, emotionally. - It's really difficult. 405 00:17:09,085 --> 00:17:12,418 I mean, we really need to... 406 00:17:12,418 --> 00:17:14,960 You know, now, our goal is to get outta here. 407 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,251 Our goal is to get outta here within the next few years, 408 00:17:17,251 --> 00:17:18,918 if we make that far. 409 00:17:18,918 --> 00:17:20,293 [Cory] Why so long? 410 00:17:20,293 --> 00:17:21,668 [Meryl] Well, because... 411 00:17:21,668 --> 00:17:23,501 Let's say you had a place that was available now. 412 00:17:23,501 --> 00:17:25,418 You know, whatever happens with him in surgery, you know, 413 00:17:25,418 --> 00:17:27,085 I don't wanna be in the middle of moving, you know, 414 00:17:27,085 --> 00:17:28,418 if something happens also. 415 00:17:28,418 --> 00:17:30,126 But let's say you had a place now. 416 00:17:30,126 --> 00:17:32,293 If I had a truck pull up right now and I said, 417 00:17:32,293 --> 00:17:34,251 "Okay, the truck is gonna take the 2% 418 00:17:34,251 --> 00:17:36,251 that you need for your new life. 419 00:17:36,251 --> 00:17:38,126 And then everything else is just gonna stay here 420 00:17:38,126 --> 00:17:39,751 and the junk haulers will come get it all." 421 00:17:39,751 --> 00:17:40,960 Could you do that? 422 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:41,585 - Yeah, I'm to that point. - 100%? 423 00:17:41,585 --> 00:17:42,918 Yeah, I am. 424 00:17:42,918 --> 00:17:45,168 I'm very hopeful that when I asked Meryl 425 00:17:45,168 --> 00:17:47,668 if a truck came today to take all of her stuff 426 00:17:47,668 --> 00:17:48,960 and she said yes, 427 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,585 I'm hopeful that she really would. 428 00:17:50,585 --> 00:17:53,043 I doubt it, but it's good that she's 429 00:17:53,043 --> 00:17:53,835 at least saying she would, 430 00:17:53,835 --> 00:17:55,001 'cause I know she wants it. 431 00:17:55,001 --> 00:17:56,585 And sometimes that's the hardest part 432 00:17:56,585 --> 00:17:58,585 is to even get them to want to change. 433 00:17:58,585 --> 00:17:59,335 And she does. 434 00:18:06,585 --> 00:18:08,210 [suspenseful music] 435 00:18:14,918 --> 00:18:17,043 Meryl and Kevin need professional help 436 00:18:17,043 --> 00:18:18,710 to get them out of the situation 437 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:20,418 that they've gotten themselves back into. 438 00:18:20,418 --> 00:18:22,043 With their physical limitations, 439 00:18:22,043 --> 00:18:23,876 with the diagnosis for Kevin, 440 00:18:23,876 --> 00:18:25,418 they can't do this alone. 441 00:18:25,418 --> 00:18:27,126 So they're gonna have to hire people, 442 00:18:27,126 --> 00:18:28,835 eat away at some of their money. 443 00:18:28,835 --> 00:18:30,085 I get it. 444 00:18:30,085 --> 00:18:31,085 But that's the only way they're gonna get to 445 00:18:31,085 --> 00:18:32,751 an assisted living or some future 446 00:18:32,751 --> 00:18:35,126 where they can spend together clutter free. 447 00:18:39,626 --> 00:18:42,543 [melancholic music] 448 00:18:43,710 --> 00:18:46,126 My husband is not doing well and I may be alone 449 00:18:46,126 --> 00:18:47,418 and I don't have any kids. 450 00:18:47,418 --> 00:18:49,210 I think about it every night and... 451 00:18:49,210 --> 00:18:50,418 [Cory] Yeah. 452 00:18:50,418 --> 00:18:52,085 And I am hurting too. 453 00:18:52,085 --> 00:18:54,085 And I dunno what the future holds. 454 00:18:54,085 --> 00:18:55,668 I know, it's hard. 455 00:18:55,668 --> 00:18:57,751 It's good to see you stop with the comedy and be real 456 00:18:57,751 --> 00:19:01,543 because you are facing a pretty big crisis here, Meryl. 457 00:19:01,543 --> 00:19:02,418 You really are. 458 00:19:02,418 --> 00:19:04,418 And I need that comedy to go away 459 00:19:04,418 --> 00:19:07,043 because I need to know that you fully understand 460 00:19:07,043 --> 00:19:08,210 the situation that you're in. 461 00:19:08,210 --> 00:19:09,418 So it's good to see. - Oh, I do. 462 00:19:09,418 --> 00:19:11,501 I think about it every night and... 463 00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:14,335 I take care of the bills, I take care of the dog, 464 00:19:14,335 --> 00:19:15,085 I take care of the... 465 00:19:15,085 --> 00:19:16,126 I try to cook. 466 00:19:16,126 --> 00:19:17,585 I mean, I'm- 467 00:19:17,585 --> 00:19:19,835 Meryl, you're one person and you're physically 468 00:19:19,835 --> 00:19:21,460 not doing well. 469 00:19:21,460 --> 00:19:23,710 Now I can see finally, emotionally, 470 00:19:23,710 --> 00:19:24,793 you're not doing well. 471 00:19:24,793 --> 00:19:26,960 I think Meryl is very scared about the future. 472 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,418 There's a lot of unknowns. 473 00:19:28,418 --> 00:19:29,918 I really do think we need to help her 474 00:19:29,918 --> 00:19:31,668 with a plan to move forward. 475 00:19:31,668 --> 00:19:33,043 [Meryl] Kevin? 476 00:19:33,043 --> 00:19:34,043 [Kevin] Yeah? 477 00:19:34,043 --> 00:19:35,251 Kevin, can you come out here? 478 00:19:35,251 --> 00:19:36,210 [Kevin] Yeah. 479 00:19:36,210 --> 00:19:37,585 Hey Kevin, come on in. 480 00:19:37,585 --> 00:19:39,460 Let's have a real conversation for a minute, okay? 481 00:19:39,460 --> 00:19:43,460 Meryl's opening up and, for the first time, I think ever, 482 00:19:43,460 --> 00:19:45,293 'cause I don't even think when we were here cleaning, 483 00:19:45,293 --> 00:19:47,626 I got this side of you that was open and honest. 484 00:19:47,626 --> 00:19:50,751 I think 'cause I was so excited about the whole matter. 485 00:19:50,751 --> 00:19:51,501 Yeah. 486 00:19:51,501 --> 00:19:52,460 So Kevin, talk to me. 487 00:19:52,460 --> 00:19:53,710 What are you going through, 488 00:19:53,710 --> 00:19:56,001 and tell me what you want for the future 489 00:19:56,001 --> 00:19:57,460 and how this is limiting you. 490 00:19:58,668 --> 00:19:59,543 Well... 491 00:20:00,751 --> 00:20:05,918 I put a lot of my effort and money into this house and 492 00:20:05,918 --> 00:20:07,210 Mmm-hmm. 493 00:20:07,210 --> 00:20:10,335 versus living somewhere with $6,000 worth, 494 00:20:10,335 --> 00:20:13,876 with her and me, know we can't afford. 495 00:20:13,876 --> 00:20:18,085 And $1,400 is a lot better than $6,000. 496 00:20:18,085 --> 00:20:20,085 So you owe how much on the house? 497 00:20:20,085 --> 00:20:23,043 128 for the house and the equity line. 498 00:20:23,043 --> 00:20:24,376 Okay. 499 00:20:24,376 --> 00:20:25,251 And how much is the house worth, do you think? 500 00:20:25,251 --> 00:20:27,043 Between 360 and 410. 501 00:20:27,043 --> 00:20:29,460 [Cory] You could have 200 and something thousand dollars 502 00:20:29,460 --> 00:20:31,001 [Meryl] Yup. once this place sells. 503 00:20:31,001 --> 00:20:32,293 [Meryl] Right. 504 00:20:32,293 --> 00:20:34,418 At 6,000 a month, that would go a long way. 505 00:20:34,418 --> 00:20:36,918 So, my suggestion is to meet with a financial advisor. 506 00:20:36,918 --> 00:20:39,501 Let 'em go through what you're faced with, 507 00:20:39,501 --> 00:20:41,501 what you want for your future, what the numbers are, 508 00:20:41,501 --> 00:20:43,668 and let 'em make a plan and help you make a plan. 509 00:20:43,668 --> 00:20:46,085 It wouldn't cost very much for the consultation. 510 00:20:46,085 --> 00:20:47,585 Right? 511 00:20:47,585 --> 00:20:48,751 And then you can figure out a way to get outta here. 512 00:20:48,751 --> 00:20:50,876 But it can't be a three year plan. 513 00:20:50,876 --> 00:20:51,793 Okay? 514 00:20:51,793 --> 00:20:52,751 This needs to be done. 515 00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:54,210 You need to pull the trigger sooner. 516 00:20:54,210 --> 00:20:56,251 I would say a year max. 517 00:20:56,251 --> 00:20:57,710 Can't delay this anymore. 518 00:20:57,710 --> 00:20:59,585 Okay, both of you need care that 519 00:20:59,585 --> 00:21:00,668 you're not gonna be able to get here 520 00:21:00,668 --> 00:21:02,043 and it's just gonna keep getting worse 521 00:21:02,043 --> 00:21:03,126 from what you're saying, right? 522 00:21:03,126 --> 00:21:04,460 I see how scared you are. 523 00:21:04,460 --> 00:21:06,085 So right now, is it all money based? 524 00:21:06,085 --> 00:21:07,335 It's... 525 00:21:07,335 --> 00:21:08,585 Is that your fear, is the money? 526 00:21:08,585 --> 00:21:09,835 The money is the biggest fear. 527 00:21:09,835 --> 00:21:11,876 Physically being able to actually... 528 00:21:11,876 --> 00:21:13,960 I mean, packing and moving is a big chore. 529 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,043 You know? 530 00:21:15,043 --> 00:21:16,335 Can we physically both do it? 531 00:21:16,335 --> 00:21:17,251 I'm not sure. 532 00:21:17,251 --> 00:21:18,210 No. 533 00:21:18,210 --> 00:21:19,668 I can tell you that right now. 534 00:21:19,668 --> 00:21:21,960 You're not gonna pack up this house and move yourself. 535 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,585 Okay, but that's where meeting 536 00:21:23,585 --> 00:21:24,710 with the financial planner, 537 00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:26,751 understanding what your numbers look like, 538 00:21:26,751 --> 00:21:29,210 'cause that will kind of dictate what you can afford, 539 00:21:29,210 --> 00:21:30,793 for how long and then what programs 540 00:21:30,793 --> 00:21:33,293 and resources are available moving forward. 541 00:21:33,293 --> 00:21:34,626 Adult Protective Services, 542 00:21:34,626 --> 00:21:36,585 some of those county agencies can tell you 543 00:21:36,585 --> 00:21:38,418 what programs are available. 544 00:21:38,418 --> 00:21:39,918 When I leave, I'll work with you. 545 00:21:39,918 --> 00:21:42,001 I'll help you find stuff, but you gotta start doing it. 546 00:21:42,001 --> 00:21:43,418 [Maryl] Okay. 547 00:21:43,418 --> 00:21:44,668 You can't just keep staying here and getting buried 548 00:21:44,668 --> 00:21:46,418 and buried and buried more and more and more. 549 00:21:46,418 --> 00:21:48,418 You're almost right back to where you were 550 00:21:48,418 --> 00:21:49,918 when we found you. 551 00:21:49,918 --> 00:21:50,918 Call me. 552 00:21:50,918 --> 00:21:52,251 I will give you my number. 553 00:21:52,251 --> 00:21:53,335 I can help you in any way I can. - [Meryl] I appreciate it. 554 00:21:53,335 --> 00:21:54,793 [Meryl] I appreciate that. 555 00:21:54,793 --> 00:21:55,501 Of course. 556 00:21:55,501 --> 00:21:56,335 Why are you sad again? 557 00:21:56,335 --> 00:21:57,168 Tell me what's going on. 558 00:21:57,168 --> 00:21:58,210 Be honest with me. 559 00:21:58,210 --> 00:21:59,585 'Cause I'm sort of... 560 00:21:59,585 --> 00:22:02,376 I'm happy because you're on our side and helping us 561 00:22:02,376 --> 00:22:04,085 and I appreciate that so much. 562 00:22:04,085 --> 00:22:05,460 Of course I am. 563 00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:07,585 And 'cause nobody else bothers to help us at all. 564 00:22:07,585 --> 00:22:09,543 I wanna see you succeed. 565 00:22:09,543 --> 00:22:11,251 That's why we come and do this. 566 00:22:11,251 --> 00:22:12,251 Okay? 567 00:22:12,251 --> 00:22:13,626 It's just so scary. 568 00:22:13,626 --> 00:22:15,418 Everything, you know, that we hear from the doctors 569 00:22:15,418 --> 00:22:18,085 and I'm scared that I'm gonna be alone in a few years 570 00:22:18,085 --> 00:22:20,376 and that's a scary thought. 571 00:22:20,376 --> 00:22:21,835 I get it. 572 00:22:21,835 --> 00:22:23,501 But this stuff isn't gonna help you. 573 00:22:23,501 --> 00:22:25,418 I need you to understand that. 574 00:22:25,418 --> 00:22:28,251 None of this is more important than time with him. 575 00:22:28,251 --> 00:22:29,210 Right? 576 00:22:29,210 --> 00:22:30,251 It can't be. 577 00:22:30,251 --> 00:22:31,501 You're right. 578 00:22:31,501 --> 00:22:33,418 He needs to be the priority. 579 00:22:33,418 --> 00:22:35,085 The two of you need to be the priority. 580 00:22:35,085 --> 00:22:36,626 Let this stuff go. 581 00:22:38,085 --> 00:22:40,751 I really hope for the best for Meryl and Kevin. 582 00:22:40,751 --> 00:22:42,835 I really enjoyed working with 'em the first time. 583 00:22:42,835 --> 00:22:43,793 I care about 'em. 584 00:22:43,793 --> 00:22:45,418 You know, you form a relationship 585 00:22:45,418 --> 00:22:46,960 when you're out here and I want to see her succeed. 586 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,668 So I will be following up with them. 587 00:22:48,668 --> 00:22:50,668 I will be checking for programs for them 588 00:22:50,668 --> 00:22:54,001 to make sure that the best outcome possible is achieved. 589 00:22:54,001 --> 00:22:54,835 I'm in your corner. 590 00:22:54,835 --> 00:22:55,668 I will follow up. 591 00:22:55,668 --> 00:22:57,418 I will help you in any way I can 592 00:22:57,418 --> 00:22:58,710 from the other side of the United States, 593 00:22:58,710 --> 00:23:00,251 but I need you to do the hard work. 594 00:23:00,251 --> 00:23:01,168 [Meryl] Okay. 595 00:23:01,168 --> 00:23:02,293 - Okay? - Mmm-hmm. 596 00:23:02,293 --> 00:23:05,501 Come on, gimme my goodbye hugs. 597 00:23:05,501 --> 00:23:06,751 Thank you so much. 598 00:23:06,751 --> 00:23:07,960 You got it. 599 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,001 I love you very much and I appreciate it. 600 00:23:09,001 --> 00:23:09,710 I love you. 601 00:23:09,710 --> 00:23:10,793 So don't let me down. 602 00:23:10,793 --> 00:23:12,710 You take care of you and her. 603 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:13,835 I'll check in with you, okay? 604 00:23:13,835 --> 00:23:14,751 Okay, thank you. 605 00:23:14,751 --> 00:23:16,085 I appreciate it. - Make me proud. 606 00:23:16,085 --> 00:23:16,918 I'm going to. 607 00:23:16,918 --> 00:23:18,251 All right. 608 00:23:18,251 --> 00:23:18,918 I wanna see these wood floors again. 609 00:23:18,918 --> 00:23:21,251 [all laughing] 610 00:23:21,251 --> 00:23:23,793 I know with a little encouragement 611 00:23:23,793 --> 00:23:27,585 and with a little prodding and maybe, you know, 612 00:23:27,585 --> 00:23:30,585 if I have Cory in the corner going "Yay, yay, go," 613 00:23:30,585 --> 00:23:33,418 I may be able to do it, yes. 614 00:23:33,418 --> 00:23:34,585 I'm gonna try. 615 00:23:34,585 --> 00:23:36,126 That's all I can do is try. 616 00:23:36,126 --> 00:23:36,835 [uplifting music] 617 00:23:41,085 --> 00:23:42,710 [brooding music] 618 00:23:54,918 --> 00:23:55,918 My name's Janet. 619 00:23:55,918 --> 00:23:57,585 I'm 52 years old. 620 00:23:57,585 --> 00:23:59,126 I'm retired and I'm a homemaker. 621 00:24:04,001 --> 00:24:09,085 We met when I was 17 and he was 19 622 00:24:09,085 --> 00:24:10,418 and we were married. 623 00:24:10,418 --> 00:24:12,335 I was 18 and a half and he was 20 and a half 624 00:24:12,335 --> 00:24:13,210 when we got married. 625 00:24:19,293 --> 00:24:20,751 Of course Tom was gone all the time 626 00:24:20,751 --> 00:24:22,585 with the police department 627 00:24:22,585 --> 00:24:26,918 and he put the charge on me to take care of the home 628 00:24:26,918 --> 00:24:30,501 and so it became very overloading. 629 00:24:30,501 --> 00:24:33,126 [hopeful music] 630 00:24:38,168 --> 00:24:44,001 We made it two months shy of our 31st wedding anniversary, 631 00:24:45,043 --> 00:24:46,585 and it was after he died 632 00:24:46,585 --> 00:24:51,710 that this just became a disaster. 633 00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:05,126 [hopeful music] 634 00:25:07,793 --> 00:25:11,168 She is obsessed with the stuff. 635 00:25:12,585 --> 00:25:14,418 [ominous tones] 636 00:25:14,418 --> 00:25:17,043 I think shopping for some strange reason 637 00:25:18,293 --> 00:25:19,876 gave me some kind of comfort. 638 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,793 I guess I just kept trying to mask and hide 639 00:25:23,793 --> 00:25:28,751 what was really going on with the grief and loneliness. 640 00:25:38,751 --> 00:25:40,460 I'm Suzanne Chabaud. 641 00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:42,835 It is nice to meet you, I'm Janet. 642 00:25:42,835 --> 00:25:44,793 So glad you came to our home. - Nice to meet you, Janet. 643 00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:48,543 I'm Dr. Suzanne Chabaud, I specialize in OCD. 644 00:25:48,543 --> 00:25:51,668 Among the spectrum disorders is hoarding. 645 00:25:52,585 --> 00:25:55,751 [pensive music] 646 00:25:55,751 --> 00:25:56,918 So here we are on a weekday, 647 00:25:56,918 --> 00:25:58,376 which seems to be a really good thing 648 00:25:58,376 --> 00:26:00,751 I understand because... 649 00:26:00,751 --> 00:26:02,126 Everybody's at work. 650 00:26:02,126 --> 00:26:04,085 Everybody meaning the neighbors, right? 651 00:26:04,085 --> 00:26:05,126 - The neighbors. - Why? 652 00:26:05,251 --> 00:26:08,710 It's a very embarrassing thing to admit. 653 00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:10,460 I am Dorothy Breininger. 654 00:26:10,460 --> 00:26:12,876 I'm a professional organizing expert 655 00:26:12,876 --> 00:26:15,376 specializing in hoarding. 656 00:26:15,376 --> 00:26:16,835 We're gonna keep rolling through it 657 00:26:16,835 --> 00:26:18,376 and I'm gonna keep finding you 658 00:26:18,376 --> 00:26:21,501 and telling you what we're doing and ask you to participate 659 00:26:21,501 --> 00:26:22,751 'cause I know you're dressed for it 660 00:26:22,751 --> 00:26:24,335 and you're the type who likes to work 661 00:26:24,335 --> 00:26:25,918 and get down to it with us. 662 00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:27,585 I don't like people doing things for me. 663 00:26:27,585 --> 00:26:29,501 That's a very hard thing to ask for help. 664 00:26:29,501 --> 00:26:30,793 - Okay. - Let's roll. 665 00:26:30,793 --> 00:26:33,585 Okay, well, you said it, so let's do it. 666 00:26:33,585 --> 00:26:36,085 [tense music] 667 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,001 Are you gonna keep this or not keep this couch? 668 00:26:42,001 --> 00:26:44,126 This was the first piece of furniture 669 00:26:44,126 --> 00:26:45,751 that Tom and I bought. 670 00:26:45,751 --> 00:26:47,751 - Ah! - So it was going 671 00:26:47,751 --> 00:26:52,293 to be reupholstered, but guess what, I'm letting it go. 672 00:26:52,293 --> 00:26:53,918 Guys, shall we give her hand? 673 00:26:53,918 --> 00:26:58,918 [helpers applaud] [Dorothy trills] 674 00:26:58,918 --> 00:27:02,293 And just doing that, I feel exhilarated. 675 00:27:07,293 --> 00:27:08,668 - Blue bike? - That's yours. 676 00:27:08,668 --> 00:27:10,251 Now, Tom gave that to me. 677 00:27:10,251 --> 00:27:12,418 Okay, let me think this out. 678 00:27:12,418 --> 00:27:14,001 I know somebody can fix that up. 679 00:27:14,001 --> 00:27:15,918 - Give it away. - Give it away. 680 00:27:15,918 --> 00:27:19,043 I'm really impressed, I wasn't expecting this. 681 00:27:20,918 --> 00:27:22,418 Let's get rid of more stuff. 682 00:27:22,418 --> 00:27:24,043 Okay. Let's do it. 683 00:27:33,293 --> 00:27:34,251 Shoot. 684 00:27:34,251 --> 00:27:35,543 One of his shirts. 685 00:27:35,543 --> 00:27:37,710 [ominous tones] [Janet sighs] 686 00:27:37,710 --> 00:27:40,668 Unexpectedly she was doing terrific 687 00:27:40,668 --> 00:27:44,168 and now she's backtracking. 688 00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:52,085 The beach toys I do wanna keep. 689 00:27:52,085 --> 00:27:54,793 Let's just stop for a second and look. 690 00:27:56,376 --> 00:27:57,585 20 cents. 691 00:27:57,585 --> 00:27:58,918 Do you see you're getting hung up 692 00:27:58,918 --> 00:28:02,918 on a plastic piece that's pretty replaceable 693 00:28:02,918 --> 00:28:05,293 so that you can hopefully have this plastic piece 694 00:28:05,293 --> 00:28:07,751 to go to the beach with sometime in the future, 695 00:28:07,751 --> 00:28:10,835 maybe when you have grandkids sometime in the future. 696 00:28:10,835 --> 00:28:13,835 [thoughtful music] 697 00:28:17,501 --> 00:28:19,085 Crud, I'm getting hung up again. 698 00:28:20,376 --> 00:28:22,751 [Kaitlyn] Mom, this is from the garage. 699 00:28:22,751 --> 00:28:26,251 Uh huh. It looks like holiday, doesn't it? 700 00:28:26,251 --> 00:28:28,835 But it's been in there for years, Mom. 701 00:28:30,376 --> 00:28:32,960 I'm extremely frustrated when I'm trying to help my mom 702 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,793 realize how unimportant something is. 703 00:28:35,793 --> 00:28:37,251 I don't understand 704 00:28:37,251 --> 00:28:40,210 why everything seems so important to her. 705 00:28:40,210 --> 00:28:43,001 Well, you're a singer and you used to sing 706 00:28:43,001 --> 00:28:45,376 for hours and hours on this, and it just brings- 707 00:28:45,376 --> 00:28:47,251 But do I use it now? 708 00:28:47,251 --> 00:28:48,210 No, you don't. 709 00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:49,876 But see, it just brings back memories. 710 00:28:51,168 --> 00:28:54,793 I am trying to just say, okay, it's time to go. 711 00:28:54,793 --> 00:28:56,126 Somebody else can use it. 712 00:29:00,043 --> 00:29:02,126 [Suzanne] What's that? Oh, just memories? 713 00:29:04,085 --> 00:29:06,501 I don't need them, but I mean, 714 00:29:06,501 --> 00:29:07,751 and they've been tucked away. 715 00:29:07,751 --> 00:29:09,293 Tucked away under a tarp. 716 00:29:09,293 --> 00:29:10,293 [Woman] That's right. 717 00:29:11,668 --> 00:29:12,835 This is what has to be done. 718 00:29:12,835 --> 00:29:14,168 Or else, you know what? 719 00:29:15,251 --> 00:29:19,376 Pretty soon, I don't think my girls 720 00:29:19,376 --> 00:29:20,876 would be having a mother. 721 00:29:22,251 --> 00:29:24,418 [emotional music] 722 00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:32,168 I just can't believe this. 723 00:29:34,918 --> 00:29:36,168 These are special things 724 00:29:36,168 --> 00:29:39,835 and they're in with the crap and trash. 725 00:29:41,126 --> 00:29:46,001 Janet is just starting to get at some of that shame 726 00:29:46,001 --> 00:29:49,918 and some of how she maybe disappointed people. 727 00:29:50,793 --> 00:29:54,793 I mean, these things underneath 728 00:29:58,418 --> 00:30:00,460 have to do with Tom. 729 00:30:02,418 --> 00:30:04,460 I just think I died right along with him. 730 00:30:08,501 --> 00:30:11,585 [tense music] 731 00:30:11,585 --> 00:30:16,418 I have witnessed Janet going from point A to point B 732 00:30:16,418 --> 00:30:21,335 as a person who is returning to the self 733 00:30:21,335 --> 00:30:24,960 that she had for many years of her life. 734 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,460 [Becky] I'm just really proud of her. 735 00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:27,918 And to me that's a big deal 736 00:30:27,918 --> 00:30:30,293 because there hasn't really been something recently 737 00:30:30,293 --> 00:30:32,043 where I've just felt proud like that. 738 00:30:32,043 --> 00:30:34,585 And I know that my dad would be proud too. 739 00:30:34,585 --> 00:30:36,835 So it makes me happy. 740 00:30:41,835 --> 00:30:44,501 [Janet] Oh my gosh, it smells clean. 741 00:30:44,501 --> 00:30:46,585 - You ready? - Oh. 742 00:30:46,585 --> 00:30:48,793 Oh. No way. 743 00:30:48,793 --> 00:30:49,501 [Daughter] Look it. 744 00:30:51,835 --> 00:30:53,460 It's beautiful. 745 00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:56,126 And all this was here and it's beautiful now. 746 00:30:58,085 --> 00:31:00,835 I'm not tripping over the laundry pile 747 00:31:00,835 --> 00:31:05,293 and oh, this is absolutely beautiful. 748 00:31:05,293 --> 00:31:08,418 I think she's realizing that she's missed out on people 749 00:31:08,418 --> 00:31:12,543 being with her and giving her some support 750 00:31:12,543 --> 00:31:14,668 through difficult times. 751 00:31:14,668 --> 00:31:18,085 Hopefully she'll carry that with her. 752 00:31:18,085 --> 00:31:19,876 'Cause hard times will come again. 753 00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:25,543 [uplifting music] 754 00:31:33,918 --> 00:31:35,251 I'm Dorothy Breininger. 755 00:31:35,251 --> 00:31:37,043 I'm a professional organizing expert 756 00:31:37,043 --> 00:31:38,626 and I specialize in hoarding. 757 00:31:40,043 --> 00:31:42,085 When I saw Dorothy coming around the corner, 758 00:31:42,085 --> 00:31:46,251 I just instantly felt her joy, 759 00:31:46,251 --> 00:31:48,126 her energy that she brings. 760 00:31:48,126 --> 00:31:51,710 And I know today's gonna be a good experience. 761 00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:53,001 14 years. - Oh I know, I know. 762 00:31:54,668 --> 00:31:56,001 Oh my gosh. 763 00:31:56,001 --> 00:31:58,918 I see her face and it just takes me right back 764 00:31:58,918 --> 00:32:01,460 to having met Amy the first time. 765 00:32:01,460 --> 00:32:02,543 How's Mom? 766 00:32:02,543 --> 00:32:03,876 She's doing good. 767 00:32:03,876 --> 00:32:05,085 She's made a lot of progress with the house. 768 00:32:05,085 --> 00:32:06,585 - Seriously? - Mm-hmm. 769 00:32:06,585 --> 00:32:08,418 Yeah. Do you wanna come see it? 770 00:32:08,418 --> 00:32:09,126 [Dorothy] I do. 771 00:32:09,126 --> 00:32:13,085 I absolutely adore that woman. 772 00:32:14,251 --> 00:32:17,001 I can't wait to see her. I can't wait to thank her. 773 00:32:17,001 --> 00:32:19,460 Can't wait to hug her. 774 00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:20,585 - Mom? - Where is she? 775 00:32:20,585 --> 00:32:22,543 Where is she? Where is she? - Oh my gosh! 776 00:32:22,543 --> 00:32:26,626 Oh Dorothy I've been waiting for this time for 14 years. 777 00:32:27,668 --> 00:32:29,085 Oh my gosh. 778 00:32:29,085 --> 00:32:31,335 There's people that come into your life 779 00:32:32,293 --> 00:32:36,293 that you have no control over. 780 00:32:36,293 --> 00:32:40,085 And for reasons that we need at certain times in our life, 781 00:32:40,085 --> 00:32:45,085 you are one of those people that has been there. 782 00:32:45,876 --> 00:32:47,876 My little angel to pull me 783 00:32:47,876 --> 00:32:50,001 out of the worst time of my life. 784 00:32:50,001 --> 00:32:51,710 Oh my gosh. 785 00:32:51,710 --> 00:32:53,168 And my family's life. 786 00:32:53,168 --> 00:32:55,251 Because I was nothing. 787 00:32:55,251 --> 00:32:57,293 I was nothing left of me. 788 00:32:57,293 --> 00:32:58,418 - It felt that way. - Yeah. 789 00:32:58,418 --> 00:33:00,418 You were certainly something. 790 00:33:00,418 --> 00:33:01,751 You know what? You're right. 791 00:33:01,751 --> 00:33:03,126 It was in there. 792 00:33:03,126 --> 00:33:06,293 And little bit by little bit 793 00:33:06,293 --> 00:33:08,418 all the things that you taught me, 794 00:33:08,418 --> 00:33:13,043 I have been able to pull myself out 795 00:33:13,043 --> 00:33:16,543 and I decided I'm gonna do this. 796 00:33:16,543 --> 00:33:20,501 I'm gonna live, I'm gonna be happy. 797 00:33:20,501 --> 00:33:23,585 It's quite humbling, but it's also really satisfying 798 00:33:23,585 --> 00:33:27,876 to think that someone took this situation so seriously 799 00:33:27,876 --> 00:33:31,460 and really wanted to turn her life around so much. 800 00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:35,418 And she wants to share the credit. 801 00:33:35,418 --> 00:33:38,418 You know, it speaks volumes to who she is. 802 00:33:39,751 --> 00:33:42,168 Well, would you like to take a little look? 803 00:33:42,168 --> 00:33:42,960 [Dorothy] I would. I would. 804 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,293 I mean. - Okay. 805 00:33:45,251 --> 00:33:47,543 I mean, A, we can open the door. 806 00:33:47,543 --> 00:33:51,960 Everything is just so free and spacious 807 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,751 and beautifully decorated. 808 00:33:53,751 --> 00:33:55,418 Is this your? 809 00:33:55,418 --> 00:33:56,543 This is me. 810 00:33:56,543 --> 00:33:58,501 I designed everything. - This is you. 811 00:33:58,501 --> 00:34:00,460 [Dorothy] This is unbelievable. 812 00:34:01,543 --> 00:34:03,501 And where did all the ideas come from? 813 00:34:03,501 --> 00:34:06,126 I mean, did it just explode for you? 814 00:34:06,126 --> 00:34:09,210 Every little step of the way, a little piece, 815 00:34:09,210 --> 00:34:12,126 those billions of broken pieces of me, 816 00:34:12,126 --> 00:34:15,876 every time I would take a step and do something 817 00:34:15,876 --> 00:34:19,543 and make a decision, a little part of me came back. 818 00:34:19,543 --> 00:34:23,251 I was a creative person before and I lost all that. 819 00:34:23,251 --> 00:34:24,835 And it was busting out suddenly. 820 00:34:24,835 --> 00:34:26,918 - Now it was just like- - Literally. 821 00:34:26,918 --> 00:34:27,793 [women laugh] 822 00:34:27,793 --> 00:34:29,085 We did the show. 823 00:34:30,293 --> 00:34:33,085 And then there's 14 years between then and now. 824 00:34:33,085 --> 00:34:35,793 Like, what was it like after the show? 825 00:34:35,793 --> 00:34:38,168 What all happened for you? 826 00:34:38,168 --> 00:34:42,168 I think for me, doing the show really helped me 827 00:34:44,168 --> 00:34:47,335 let go of the sense of responsibility. 828 00:34:48,793 --> 00:34:49,626 Trying to... 829 00:34:54,168 --> 00:34:57,251 Trying to fix things that weren't my problems to fix 830 00:34:57,251 --> 00:34:59,126 or my issues to fix. 831 00:34:59,126 --> 00:35:03,085 And really realizing that I needed to 832 00:35:03,085 --> 00:35:07,751 focus on living my own life and my future 833 00:35:07,751 --> 00:35:10,751 and not what had happened. 834 00:35:10,751 --> 00:35:14,668 And what is it like for you to hear your daughter say, 835 00:35:15,585 --> 00:35:18,126 you know, I didn't have to take on 836 00:35:18,126 --> 00:35:20,376 that responsibility anymore. 837 00:35:20,376 --> 00:35:22,501 What's that like for you to hear? 838 00:35:22,501 --> 00:35:25,543 Well, the burden that I put on them, 839 00:35:27,251 --> 00:35:29,251 I can never take that back. 840 00:35:29,251 --> 00:35:34,335 And I am sorry for all the 841 00:35:35,085 --> 00:35:39,126 pain that I caused my family. 842 00:35:39,126 --> 00:35:41,085 I didn't do it on purpose. 843 00:35:41,085 --> 00:35:42,251 Just, I want you to know that. 844 00:35:42,251 --> 00:35:44,085 I do know that. 845 00:35:44,085 --> 00:35:45,668 - Okay. - I do know that. 846 00:35:45,668 --> 00:35:48,085 And I'm just glad we're to this point. 847 00:35:48,085 --> 00:35:49,168 Yeah, me too. 848 00:35:50,168 --> 00:35:53,335 It's been a complicated road, 849 00:35:53,335 --> 00:35:57,085 but we've gotten to a much better place, 850 00:35:57,085 --> 00:35:59,418 a much more authentic place. 851 00:35:59,418 --> 00:36:01,376 I would say that there's hope 852 00:36:01,376 --> 00:36:03,376 for other kids going through this right now. 853 00:36:03,376 --> 00:36:07,918 There's hope that their parent might be able 854 00:36:07,918 --> 00:36:10,126 to see what's happening 855 00:36:10,126 --> 00:36:12,710 and ultimately realize that it is an illness 856 00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:16,668 and it's something that they can get help for. 857 00:36:16,668 --> 00:36:19,168 They can change if they really want to. 858 00:36:19,168 --> 00:36:23,126 It's not easy, but there is hope 859 00:36:23,126 --> 00:36:27,335 and there's a possibility of a better future 860 00:36:27,335 --> 00:36:28,710 for the entire family. 861 00:36:34,835 --> 00:36:36,835 [tense music] 862 00:36:46,251 --> 00:36:47,710 I want Janet to know 863 00:36:47,710 --> 00:36:51,751 that she absolutely has held onto this possibility 864 00:36:51,751 --> 00:36:55,543 of having a clutter-free home, a beautifully designed home. 865 00:36:55,543 --> 00:36:58,418 One that she had always had in her vision 866 00:36:58,418 --> 00:37:02,251 and in her mind with her husband and now on her own. 867 00:37:02,251 --> 00:37:05,001 [ominous music] 868 00:37:11,043 --> 00:37:15,710 If I remember, I saw this picture of your husband. 869 00:37:15,710 --> 00:37:18,251 It wasn't prominently displayed this way. 870 00:37:18,251 --> 00:37:20,960 It was on top of a hoard back then. 871 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,751 How embarrassing, right? 872 00:37:22,751 --> 00:37:24,460 The love of my life. 873 00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:26,460 - Was it embarrassing? - Yeah, oh yeah. 874 00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:29,793 Amy, for you, did you know that it, 875 00:37:29,793 --> 00:37:32,293 like why is dad's picture on top of the hoard? 876 00:37:32,293 --> 00:37:33,793 Did it like? 877 00:37:33,793 --> 00:37:37,543 I didn't know that his picture was on top of the stuff 878 00:37:38,918 --> 00:37:40,918 before I was there that day. 879 00:37:40,918 --> 00:37:44,418 And it was tough to see. 880 00:37:44,418 --> 00:37:49,418 The feelings when everything is just 881 00:37:50,210 --> 00:37:53,376 chaotic and topsy-turvy inside, 882 00:37:53,376 --> 00:37:56,710 there's just no life in you at all. 883 00:37:56,710 --> 00:38:00,668 And I knew he had to be in our home, his picture. 884 00:38:02,876 --> 00:38:07,251 And I couldn't create a place that was honorable. 885 00:38:07,251 --> 00:38:10,793 And given that you were in a fog. 886 00:38:10,793 --> 00:38:12,876 - Oh definitely. - During the show. 887 00:38:12,876 --> 00:38:13,918 - Oh, yes. - Right? 888 00:38:13,918 --> 00:38:15,918 Do you remember all of it? 889 00:38:15,918 --> 00:38:16,918 Parts of it? 890 00:38:16,918 --> 00:38:18,918 No, I remember parts of it 891 00:38:18,918 --> 00:38:22,335 and I just, it's a blur. 892 00:38:22,335 --> 00:38:23,668 A lot of it is a blur. 893 00:38:23,668 --> 00:38:27,251 Something clicks or switches off. 894 00:38:27,251 --> 00:38:30,710 And until you, I have to do it, 895 00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:35,460 until that moment that you tell yourself 896 00:38:35,460 --> 00:38:36,751 enough is enough, 897 00:38:36,751 --> 00:38:39,960 I am climbing out of that deep rabbit hole, 898 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,210 And I feel like today I've come right over the top now. 899 00:38:45,376 --> 00:38:48,793 Janet has now been able to, you know, 900 00:38:48,793 --> 00:38:52,293 unburden herself of this thing called hoarding. 901 00:38:52,293 --> 00:38:56,251 Like, she gets help. She goes to a grief group. 902 00:38:56,251 --> 00:39:01,251 She does these things in order to finally release herself 903 00:39:01,251 --> 00:39:02,751 and her life. 904 00:39:02,751 --> 00:39:05,418 But she had to get this part clear. 905 00:39:05,418 --> 00:39:08,918 She had to truly clear the clutter so she could live. 906 00:39:08,918 --> 00:39:11,501 Well, why don't you guys come and sit at the table 907 00:39:11,501 --> 00:39:14,460 and we'll sit around the pool and chat. 908 00:39:15,251 --> 00:39:16,501 Absolutely. 909 00:39:16,501 --> 00:39:20,960 Wow. I have to take it all in, you know. 910 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,585 I mean... 911 00:39:22,585 --> 00:39:26,251 How did you make a decision with 28 different patio sets? 912 00:39:26,251 --> 00:39:28,043 How do you whittle it down to just- 913 00:39:28,043 --> 00:39:29,210 I don't think there was 28. 914 00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:30,543 Was there? - Alright. 915 00:39:30,543 --> 00:39:31,876 I think it was 17 or something close. 916 00:39:31,876 --> 00:39:33,168 - What? - Yeah. 917 00:39:33,168 --> 00:39:34,460 When they did the final- - There were quite a few. 918 00:39:34,460 --> 00:39:36,751 But how did you whittle it down to just, 919 00:39:36,751 --> 00:39:38,835 you know, these few pieces that are left? 920 00:39:38,835 --> 00:39:41,751 Well, some were just dilapidated. 921 00:39:41,751 --> 00:39:45,293 - And you made the decision. - Yeah. I had to. 922 00:39:45,293 --> 00:39:46,835 Yeah. - It's fantastic. 923 00:39:46,835 --> 00:39:48,418 We're not staring at furniture. 924 00:39:48,418 --> 00:39:49,793 We're sitting on furniture. 925 00:39:49,793 --> 00:39:50,793 - Yeah. - You could have- 926 00:39:50,793 --> 00:39:52,085 Like it's supposed to be used. 927 00:39:52,085 --> 00:39:53,418 Yeah. 928 00:39:53,418 --> 00:39:55,293 I'm so proud of you, honey. 929 00:39:55,293 --> 00:39:56,251 [Janet] Thank you so much. 930 00:39:56,251 --> 00:39:57,210 You don't know how much that- 931 00:39:57,210 --> 00:39:58,418 I'm so proud of you. 932 00:39:58,418 --> 00:40:00,085 How much that means to me. 933 00:40:00,085 --> 00:40:04,835 And I could not have gotten to this point without you. 934 00:40:04,835 --> 00:40:07,793 I remember a couple times you kicking my butt, girl. 935 00:40:07,793 --> 00:40:09,460 Oh, maybe we can't say that. 936 00:40:09,460 --> 00:40:10,418 - You sure can. - Oh, okay. 937 00:40:11,293 --> 00:40:12,543 [everyone laughing] 938 00:40:12,543 --> 00:40:15,585 I needed it, but I can remember though. 939 00:40:15,585 --> 00:40:17,043 I would just stare at you. 940 00:40:17,043 --> 00:40:18,293 Like... 941 00:40:18,293 --> 00:40:19,501 - And... - Yeah. 942 00:40:19,501 --> 00:40:21,668 And it was like it wasn't connecting, 943 00:40:21,668 --> 00:40:26,626 but it was, everything that don't think it was in vain 944 00:40:26,626 --> 00:40:30,210 because everything, as I was sorting through things, 945 00:40:30,210 --> 00:40:34,876 as I was making decisions again here how many years later? 946 00:40:34,876 --> 00:40:37,710 It's your little voice that I hear. 947 00:40:37,710 --> 00:40:40,835 Well, let me tell you how important you all were to me. 948 00:40:40,835 --> 00:40:43,835 I did keep something from 14 years ago. 949 00:40:43,835 --> 00:40:44,876 - Really? - Let me get it 950 00:40:44,876 --> 00:40:45,751 outta my pocket. 951 00:40:45,751 --> 00:40:48,335 Savannah was drawing this. 952 00:40:48,335 --> 00:40:49,835 [Janet] Oh you should see. 953 00:40:49,835 --> 00:40:55,585 During the hoard when we were working on the project, 954 00:40:55,585 --> 00:40:56,251 and then she gave it to me. 955 00:40:56,251 --> 00:40:57,460 Oh my gosh. 956 00:40:57,460 --> 00:40:59,751 And I've kept it all these years. 957 00:40:59,751 --> 00:41:03,418 So I do want her to know that I kept this 958 00:41:03,418 --> 00:41:07,085 as an heirloom from our experience together. 959 00:41:07,085 --> 00:41:08,626 - That is the sweetest thing. - And you've been my mind. 960 00:41:08,626 --> 00:41:11,418 And of all the shows 961 00:41:11,418 --> 00:41:13,918 that you have done and helped people. 962 00:41:13,918 --> 00:41:16,585 And you have kept that. - I have. 963 00:41:16,585 --> 00:41:19,835 I've been really lucky to be involved with people 964 00:41:19,835 --> 00:41:23,751 who hoard and who also want to go beyond it, 965 00:41:23,751 --> 00:41:25,751 who want to make the change. 966 00:41:25,751 --> 00:41:28,168 I want you to really know where it all started. 967 00:41:29,168 --> 00:41:30,668 It starts in your heart. 968 00:41:30,668 --> 00:41:32,376 But let's even go back. 969 00:41:32,376 --> 00:41:35,751 Do not ever forget the courage it took 970 00:41:35,751 --> 00:41:38,710 for Amy to make that call. 971 00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:42,001 That was why this all happened. 972 00:41:42,001 --> 00:41:43,418 Thank you. 973 00:41:43,418 --> 00:41:45,793 You literally changed your mother's and your own life. 974 00:41:45,793 --> 00:41:47,668 This woman is not gonna give up. 975 00:41:47,668 --> 00:41:50,501 She will have a life that she's always dreamed of, 976 00:41:50,501 --> 00:41:52,418 taken a while, but she's gonna have it. 977 00:41:52,418 --> 00:41:53,751 - We love you. - Love you sweetheart. 978 00:41:53,751 --> 00:41:55,460 Thank you for giving us our family back 979 00:41:55,460 --> 00:41:56,876 and for giving me back. 980 00:41:58,418 --> 00:42:00,543 I love you. - Love you too, sweetheart. 981 00:42:00,543 --> 00:42:01,585 I'll be in touch again. 982 00:42:01,585 --> 00:42:02,418 - Okay. - Watch out. 983 00:42:02,418 --> 00:42:03,835 - Please do. - Watch out. 984 00:42:03,835 --> 00:42:06,210 Bye hon. - You're welcome anytime. 985 00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:07,835 - Okay. - Thank you. 986 00:42:07,835 --> 00:42:09,585 All right. See you later. 987 00:42:09,585 --> 00:42:11,293 Beautiful stuff. 988 00:42:11,293 --> 00:42:13,043 I wanna stay all afternoon. 989 00:42:13,668 --> 00:42:16,751 [uplifting music]