I do have some collections,
but I also overdone it a little bit.
If we don't clean the house,
code enforcement, they can evict us.
We're landlocked.
They can't bring anything else out.
We need to speed this process up.
This living room that I worked so hard on
is completely full again.
I don't know what the future holds.
I know.
It's hard.
After he died, that this became a disaster.
20 cents.
You're getting hung up on a plastic piece.
When I saw Dorothy coming around the corner,
I know today's gonna be a good experience.
Mom?
- Where is she? - Oh my gosh.
Oh, Dorothy.
I'm Meryl, and I'm a hoarder.
A saver.
A squanderer.
I think I do have some collections
that are worth things.
To me, anyways.
But I also know that I've overdone it a little bit,
and now it's overtaking my life.
I'm Kevin, I'm Mel's husband.
Me and Mel have been married since May 12th, 1990.
So that would be 30 years.
Some people would say, how can you deal with her?
I love her.
I really do.
And I wanna spend the rest of my life with her.
But she has to throw stuff out.
There's no if or buts about it, she has to throw stuff out.
In 1997, we bought this home, and no sooner did we get it,
but my mother had passed away.
She brought everything from her mother's house
into our house.
Her game plan was she's gonna decipher through
what she wanted and what she wanted to throw away
or give away.
It never happened.
90% of her stuff is down in my basement.
And I will admit, I'll be the first to admit,
I could not bear to part with many of those things.
Even her hair curlers.
I would smell 'em and smell like her,
and I didn't want to get rid of them.
We could still function up here on the first floor.
My husband and I could actually sit in the living room
and watch television and whatnot.
And then slowly but surely...
I have lymphedema.
And it started to get bad.
And before I knew it, you know,
I wasn't able to climb stuff anymore.
I wasn't able to put things away anymore.
I wasn't able to do stuff.
I needed to sit every like 15 minutes every two hours.
And the trial court said, "Nah, you have to be
in totally good health to do this job.
So, bye."
I'd come home with bags and bags.
And how did I feel when I got home with that?
I felt like Christmas had come.
If we don't clean the house, the code enforcements,
they can evict us outta our own home,
and they can have us pay for the clean out.
Good morning, everyone.
Good morning.
I'm Cory Chalmers, an extreme cleaner
that specializes in biohazard and hoarding.
Meryl, how you doing so far?
I'm still upright.
That's good.
Little anxious, little excited.
Good.
That's to be expected.
If you weren't, I would say something's wrong.
That's right.
Then I probably would be down.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
Right on.
So, Kevin, how are you feeling right now?
You're excited?
Okay.
All right.
Any anxiety on your part?
Or are you just ready to hit the ground running?
Hit the ground running.
Okay.
Corey, what's our plan?
We're gonna bring things out under the tents
and stuff for right now, to start sorting,
start learning what you think of things,
how you make decisions,
so that we can kind of build off that
to make a bigger game plan.
Any other questions?
Nope.
All right, well, let's get started.
- Okay. - All right.
As you can see in your back door,
we have a line of people with boxes, bags.
They're gonna start filling up
and bringing out to the sorting table.
I'm not really crazy about it.
That we can get rid of.
Oh, perfect.
Trash.
No, you can throw those.
It's okay.
We'll just wipe out that entire pile right now.
Are you serious?
That whole pile can just go?
Everything else can go.
Oh my gosh.
All right, wow.
This was my mother's, so this is gonna be a little tough.
I just...
I don't need it, I just wanna say goodbye, that's all.
Okay?
Have you said goodbye to your mom?
I know it's silly, I just...
Why is it silly?
This is just a stupid little vase, but...
But it connects you to your mom, does it not?
And so, if this is something
that you feel connects you to her,
it's okay to keep it.
Okay, then I'd like to keep it, please.
All right.
I think that's a good decision.
All right.
I'm glad you took a moment
and I'm glad that you could get real with this.
I'm glad I...
And feel what you needed to feel.
I only want one of these.
I don't want 20 of them, so...
Is this the one you're gonna keep?
Yeah, that's fine.
That's fine.
Yeah, all right.
Meryl continues to be really easy to work with.
It's the elements and other things
that are slowing us down, I think.
We're limited to this 20 foot tent.
We're landlocked.
They can't bring anything else out.
Okay.
We need to speed this process up.
Can we please get your family
in the house to make decisions?
It would really help us a lot.
I know I might be kicking myself in the ass later,
but yeah, okay.
Let them come in the house right now
so that they can come in forever in the future.
Okay, that's fine.
We'll make some good decisions, I promise.
Okay.
Anything that doesn't seem sentimental
is trash at this point.
Yeah.
You need these?
Yes, please.
This is 2013.
We're shredding.
Good job.
What a good job.
Home sweet home.
Ooh.
Holy moly.
It's a real kitchen.
Unbelievable.
Wow.
Wowee.
Not only is it spacious, but it's clean and functional.
Oh my, look at that.
Wow.
Oh, that's wonderful.
Oh, wow.
I can actually sit down a table.
The outcome today, it's beautiful.
I can't say anything else, but thank you.
Oh my God.
- Oh wow. - It's wonderful.
- Wow. - Look at this.
I can't even believe it.
It's so wonderful, I just...
More than I expected.
One more room that we gotta go see
and that is yours.
Oh my God.
Oh my...
Oh, it's wonderful.
So that's a new bed for you, Meryl.
Oh thank you.
You're welcome.
The good news is we were able to clear so much out
that she has a very beautiful and safe, functional house.
The city will not have any problems
when they come and reinspect it.
So tears of joy or tears of sorrow,
because all of your stuff is gone?
No, it's, I'm pretty happy.
Now that the process is over, I feel so
liberated.
I'm free!
Magnificent.
It's a great feeling.
It's really, really wonderful.
And I can't thank...
Everybody here, what they've done is just great.
All right everybody, congratulations.
This was beyond a team effort.
We are gonna take off
and we're gonna let you enjoy your time together.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
It's been wonderful knowing you and getting to meet you.
And thank you for all your help.
I'm Cory Chalmers, an extreme cleaner
that specializes in biohazard and hoarding.
As I'm walking to the house to meet Meryl,
I'm really anticipating that she's kept it clean.
We did a lot of work for her,
and the house looked great when we left,
so I'm hoping that that's what it's gonna look like
when I get inside.
Hello. - Oh.
Well, we'll let you in.
Come on in.
You gorgeous guy. - How are you?
So good to see you.
How you been? - It's wonderful to see you.
Well, I'm still on two feet sort of.
Yeah.
Well, let's go inside.
Let's catch up. - So...
Come on in. Let me take a look around
and let's see what's going on, okay?
Come on in.
So I'm walking inside and instantly
this living room that I worked so hard on
is completely full again.
I just can't believe that she's gone
from what we left her with to this mess.
This is not how we left it, Meryl.
Would you believe me if I told you a little elf did it?
I think I know who that little elf is,
but we'll get to that.
So what happened to the wood floors
that I worked so hard on to expose for you?
Well, some are still exposed.
We still have the rugs that you
very, very nicely got for us.
And we still have those and they're holding up beautifully.
But we have a few spots of wood you can still see.
It's a long story.
When you say holding up, holding up the clutter?
It's not all clutter.
Honest to God, it isn't.
What's going on?
How did it get full again like this?
One thing was we had a storage room
and we had in it several things that we wanted to save.
Then all of a sudden I got a notice
saying it was going up to $300 a month.
And I was like, what?
So I gathered up a gentleman, a local guy,
and he helped me clear it out.
And where else were we gonna bring it?
Right here.
Why did you decide to bring stuff
that had been in storage for years home and
instantly clutter it back up. - Because we couldn't pay
the 300.
What about letting it go?
Well, I guess I could have, but...
You had a fully functional house.
You had everything you needed here.
You have probably paid thousands of dollars more
than whatever the value of anything in there is.
I would've hoped you would've said, you know what?
I'm not gonna do this.
I'm gonna let that storage unit go
because I have everything I need at home.
Yeah, I guess I could have.
I think because cabinets and closets,
everything wasn't done.
So as I slowly went through boxes
and found things that I wanted to save,
I couldn't put them right away
because those things are still packed to the hills.
Do you save too much?
That's my question.
Are you still saving too much?
Well, I'm...
Before you answer that.
No, because if I empty out that closet-
Before you answer that, look behind you.
Okay.
Do you save too much?
Maybe so.
No, no, no, no.
How can you say maybe?
Because some of this...
The stuff on the right right here is Christmas present
we just got ourselves,
and we need somebody to help us to learn how to hook it up.
It's really difficult to have a conversation with Meryl
because she just goes off on these stories.
The pillows, I keep changing different,
because of my illness and because of my being in pain,
I keep trying, as my legs morph and my back,
I sort of change pillows.
Sometimes I use a big one.
Sometimes it's small.
Mmm-hmm. So, I have lots of choices.
I need Meryl to stop focusing on the minutia.
She's in the weeds on so much stuff
and there's a big plan that needs to be made here.
And if she can focus on the bigger picture
and stop worrying about each individual thing,
I think we can make a lot of progress
and help her get to the next chapter in her life.
What's your plan moving forward?
We've had a lot of things happening
and medically we're not doing well.
My husband's been diagnosed with Alzheimer's
and he also needs several surgeries.
With me, my legs and feet are getting so bad
that I can't even get in my car.
It is so hard to walk.
It feels like I have a rubber tire around both legs.
And right now they're probably about a hundred pounds.
Okay, so with all that you just told me,
what is your life plan?
We wanna move.
We wanna sell the house.
And where are you gonna go?
We are looking...
We've already started looking at like assisted living.
Okay, so you're looking at either a studio or one bedroom.
Mm-hmm.
When you're going through this,
everything has a use still,
but not to the new life, right?
No.
Well, I guess not.
You're right, I mean, like...
Don't.
Just stop, stop.
Stop.
- Maybe I fast analyze too much. - You get going too fast.
You do.
You know what I'm saying?
You're moving to a studio.
What do you need this for?
Well, we were gonna put that
outside the other day.
In your new life, what do you need this for?
We don't.
In your studio, what do you need?
What's ever in this?
What do you need this?
Ask yourself that for every single thing in here,
because you're gonna take about 2 or 3% of this stuff
to the new place.
When we leave, how are you gonna manage that?
Physically, emotionally. - It's really difficult.
I mean, we really need to...
You know, now, our goal is to get outta here.
Our goal is to get outta here within the next few years,
if we make that far.
Why so long?
Well, because...
Let's say you had a place that was available now.
You know, whatever happens with him in surgery, you know,
I don't wanna be in the middle of moving, you know,
if something happens also.
But let's say you had a place now.
If I had a truck pull up right now and I said,
"Okay, the truck is gonna take the 2%
that you need for your new life.
And then everything else is just gonna stay here
and the junk haulers will come get it all."
Could you do that?
- Yeah, I'm to that point. - 100%?
Yeah, I am.
I'm very hopeful that when I asked Meryl
if a truck came today to take all of her stuff
and she said yes,
I'm hopeful that she really would.
I doubt it, but it's good that she's
at least saying she would,
'cause I know she wants it.
And sometimes that's the hardest part
is to even get them to want to change.
And she does.
Meryl and Kevin need professional help
to get them out of the situation
that they've gotten themselves back into.
With their physical limitations,
with the diagnosis for Kevin,
they can't do this alone.
So they're gonna have to hire people,
eat away at some of their money.
I get it.
But that's the only way they're gonna get to
an assisted living or some future
where they can spend together clutter free.
My husband is not doing well and I may be alone
and I don't have any kids.
I think about it every night and...
Yeah.
And I am hurting too.
And I dunno what the future holds.
I know, it's hard.
It's good to see you stop with the comedy and be real
because you are facing a pretty big crisis here, Meryl.
You really are.
And I need that comedy to go away
because I need to know that you fully understand
the situation that you're in.
So it's good to see. - Oh, I do.
I think about it every night and...
I take care of the bills, I take care of the dog,
I take care of the...
I try to cook.
I mean, I'm-
Meryl, you're one person and you're physically
not doing well.
Now I can see finally, emotionally,
you're not doing well.
I think Meryl is very scared about the future.
There's a lot of unknowns.
I really do think we need to help her
with a plan to move forward.
Kevin?
Yeah?
Kevin, can you come out here?
Yeah.
Hey Kevin, come on in.
Let's have a real conversation for a minute, okay?
Meryl's opening up and, for the first time, I think ever,
'cause I don't even think when we were here cleaning,
I got this side of you that was open and honest.
I think 'cause I was so excited about the whole matter.
Yeah.
So Kevin, talk to me.
What are you going through,
and tell me what you want for the future
and how this is limiting you.
Well...
I put a lot of my effort and money into this house and
Mmm-hmm.
versus living somewhere with $6,000 worth,
with her and me, know we can't afford.
And $1,400 is a lot better than $6,000.
So you owe how much on the house?
128 for the house and the equity line.
Okay.
And how much is the house worth, do you think?
Between 360 and 410.
You could have 200 and something thousand dollars
Yup. once this place sells.
Right.
At 6,000 a month, that would go a long way.
So, my suggestion is to meet with a financial advisor.
Let 'em go through what you're faced with,
what you want for your future, what the numbers are,
and let 'em make a plan and help you make a plan.
It wouldn't cost very much for the consultation.
Right?
And then you can figure out a way to get outta here.
But it can't be a three year plan.
Okay?
This needs to be done.
You need to pull the trigger sooner.
I would say a year max.
Can't delay this anymore.
Okay, both of you need care that
you're not gonna be able to get here
and it's just gonna keep getting worse
from what you're saying, right?
I see how scared you are.
So right now, is it all money based?
It's...
Is that your fear, is the money?
The money is the biggest fear.
Physically being able to actually...
I mean, packing and moving is a big chore.
You know?
Can we physically both do it?
I'm not sure.
No.
I can tell you that right now.
You're not gonna pack up this house and move yourself.
Okay, but that's where meeting
with the financial planner,
understanding what your numbers look like,
'cause that will kind of dictate what you can afford,
for how long and then what programs
and resources are available moving forward.
Adult Protective Services,
some of those county agencies can tell you
what programs are available.
When I leave, I'll work with you.
I'll help you find stuff, but you gotta start doing it.
Okay.
You can't just keep staying here and getting buried
and buried and buried more and more and more.
You're almost right back to where you were
when we found you.
Call me.
I will give you my number.
I can help you in any way I can. - I appreciate it.
I appreciate that.
Of course.
Why are you sad again?
Tell me what's going on.
Be honest with me.
'Cause I'm sort of...
I'm happy because you're on our side and helping us
and I appreciate that so much.
Of course I am.
And 'cause nobody else bothers to help us at all.
I wanna see you succeed.
That's why we come and do this.
Okay?
It's just so scary.
Everything, you know, that we hear from the doctors
and I'm scared that I'm gonna be alone in a few years
and that's a scary thought.
I get it.
But this stuff isn't gonna help you.
I need you to understand that.
None of this is more important than time with him.
Right?
It can't be.
You're right.
He needs to be the priority.
The two of you need to be the priority.
Let this stuff go.
I really hope for the best for Meryl and Kevin.
I really enjoyed working with 'em the first time.
I care about 'em.
You know, you form a relationship
when you're out here and I want to see her succeed.
So I will be following up with them.
I will be checking for programs for them
to make sure that the best outcome possible is achieved.
I'm in your corner.
I will follow up.
I will help you in any way I can
from the other side of the United States,
but I need you to do the hard work.
Okay.
- Okay? - Mmm-hmm.
Come on, gimme my goodbye hugs.
Thank you so much.
You got it.
I love you very much and I appreciate it.
I love you.
So don't let me down.
You take care of you and her.
I'll check in with you, okay?
Okay, thank you.
I appreciate it. - Make me proud.
I'm going to.
All right.
I wanna see these wood floors again.
I know with a little encouragement
and with a little prodding and maybe, you know,
if I have Cory in the corner going "Yay, yay, go,"
I may be able to do it, yes.
I'm gonna try.
That's all I can do is try.
My name's Janet.
I'm 52 years old.
I'm retired and I'm a homemaker.
We met when I was 17 and he was 19
and we were married.
I was 18 and a half and he was 20 and a half
when we got married.
Of course Tom was gone all the time
with the police department
and he put the charge on me to take care of the home
and so it became very overloading.
We made it two months shy of our 31st wedding anniversary,
and it was after he died
that this just became a disaster.
She is obsessed with the stuff.
I think shopping for some strange reason
gave me some kind of comfort.
I guess I just kept trying to mask and hide
what was really going on with the grief and loneliness.
I'm Suzanne Chabaud.
It is nice to meet you, I'm Janet.
So glad you came to our home. - Nice to meet you, Janet.
I'm Dr. Suzanne Chabaud, I specialize in OCD.
Among the spectrum disorders is hoarding.
So here we are on a weekday,
which seems to be a really good thing
I understand because...
Everybody's at work.
Everybody meaning the neighbors, right?
- The neighbors. - Why?
It's a very embarrassing thing to admit.
I am Dorothy Breininger.
I'm a professional organizing expert
specializing in hoarding.
We're gonna keep rolling through it
and I'm gonna keep finding you
and telling you what we're doing and ask you to participate
'cause I know you're dressed for it
and you're the type who likes to work
and get down to it with us.
I don't like people doing things for me.
That's a very hard thing to ask for help.
- Okay. - Let's roll.
Okay, well, you said it, so let's do it.
Are you gonna keep this or not keep this couch?
This was the first piece of furniture
that Tom and I bought.
- Ah! - So it was going
to be reupholstered, but guess what, I'm letting it go.
Guys, shall we give her hand?
And just doing that, I feel exhilarated.
- Blue bike? - That's yours.
Now, Tom gave that to me.
Okay, let me think this out.
I know somebody can fix that up.
- Give it away. - Give it away.
I'm really impressed, I wasn't expecting this.
Let's get rid of more stuff.
Okay. Let's do it.
Shoot.
One of his shirts.
Unexpectedly she was doing terrific
and now she's backtracking.
The beach toys I do wanna keep.
Let's just stop for a second and look.
20 cents.
Do you see you're getting hung up
on a plastic piece that's pretty replaceable
so that you can hopefully have this plastic piece
to go to the beach with sometime in the future,
maybe when you have grandkids sometime in the future.
Crud, I'm getting hung up again.
Mom, this is from the garage.
Uh huh. It looks like holiday, doesn't it?
But it's been in there for years, Mom.
I'm extremely frustrated when I'm trying to help my mom
realize how unimportant something is.
I don't understand
why everything seems so important to her.
Well, you're a singer and you used to sing
for hours and hours on this, and it just brings-
But do I use it now?
No, you don't.
But see, it just brings back memories.
I am trying to just say, okay, it's time to go.
Somebody else can use it.
What's that? Oh, just memories?
I don't need them, but I mean,
and they've been tucked away.
Tucked away under a tarp.
That's right.
This is what has to be done.
Or else, you know what?
Pretty soon, I don't think my girls
would be having a mother.
I just can't believe this.
These are special things
and they're in with the crap and trash.
Janet is just starting to get at some of that shame
and some of how she maybe disappointed people.
I mean, these things underneath
have to do with Tom.
I just think I died right along with him.
I have witnessed Janet going from point A to point B
as a person who is returning to the self
that she had for many years of her life.
I'm just really proud of her.
And to me that's a big deal
because there hasn't really been something recently
where I've just felt proud like that.
And I know that my dad would be proud too.
So it makes me happy.
Oh my gosh, it smells clean.
- You ready? - Oh.
Oh. No way.
Look it.
It's beautiful.
And all this was here and it's beautiful now.
I'm not tripping over the laundry pile
and oh, this is absolutely beautiful.
I think she's realizing that she's missed out on people
being with her and giving her some support
through difficult times.
Hopefully she'll carry that with her.
'Cause hard times will come again.
I'm Dorothy Breininger.
I'm a professional organizing expert
and I specialize in hoarding.
When I saw Dorothy coming around the corner,
I just instantly felt her joy,
her energy that she brings.
And I know today's gonna be a good experience.
14 years. - Oh I know, I know.
Oh my gosh.
I see her face and it just takes me right back
to having met Amy the first time.
How's Mom?
She's doing good.
She's made a lot of progress with the house.
- Seriously? - Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Do you wanna come see it?
I do.
I absolutely adore that woman.
I can't wait to see her. I can't wait to thank her.
Can't wait to hug her.
- Mom? - Where is she?
Where is she? Where is she? - Oh my gosh!
Oh Dorothy I've been waiting for this time for 14 years.
Oh my gosh.
There's people that come into your life
that you have no control over.
And for reasons that we need at certain times in our life,
you are one of those people that has been there.
My little angel to pull me
out of the worst time of my life.
Oh my gosh.
And my family's life.
Because I was nothing.
I was nothing left of me.
- It felt that way. - Yeah.
You were certainly something.
You know what? You're right.
It was in there.
And little bit by little bit
all the things that you taught me,
I have been able to pull myself out
and I decided I'm gonna do this.
I'm gonna live, I'm gonna be happy.
It's quite humbling, but it's also really satisfying
to think that someone took this situation so seriously
and really wanted to turn her life around so much.
And she wants to share the credit.
You know, it speaks volumes to who she is.
Well, would you like to take a little look?
I would. I would.
I mean. - Okay.
I mean, A, we can open the door.
Everything is just so free and spacious
and beautifully decorated.
Is this your?
This is me.
I designed everything. - This is you.
This is unbelievable.
And where did all the ideas come from?
I mean, did it just explode for you?
Every little step of the way, a little piece,
those billions of broken pieces of me,
every time I would take a step and do something
and make a decision, a little part of me came back.
I was a creative person before and I lost all that.
And it was busting out suddenly.
- Now it was just like- - Literally.
We did the show.
And then there's 14 years between then and now.
Like, what was it like after the show?
What all happened for you?
I think for me, doing the show really helped me
let go of the sense of responsibility.
Trying to...
Trying to fix things that weren't my problems to fix
or my issues to fix.
And really realizing that I needed to
focus on living my own life and my future
and not what had happened.
And what is it like for you to hear your daughter say,
you know, I didn't have to take on
that responsibility anymore.
What's that like for you to hear?
Well, the burden that I put on them,
I can never take that back.
And I am sorry for all the
pain that I caused my family.
I didn't do it on purpose.
Just, I want you to know that.
I do know that.
- Okay. - I do know that.
And I'm just glad we're to this point.
Yeah, me too.
It's been a complicated road,
but we've gotten to a much better place,
a much more authentic place.
I would say that there's hope
for other kids going through this right now.
There's hope that their parent might be able
to see what's happening
and ultimately realize that it is an illness
and it's something that they can get help for.
They can change if they really want to.
It's not easy, but there is hope
and there's a possibility of a better future
for the entire family.
I want Janet to know
that she absolutely has held onto this possibility
of having a clutter-free home, a beautifully designed home.
One that she had always had in her vision
and in her mind with her husband and now on her own.
If I remember, I saw this picture of your husband.
It wasn't prominently displayed this way.
It was on top of a hoard back then.
How embarrassing, right?
The love of my life.
- Was it embarrassing? - Yeah, oh yeah.
Amy, for you, did you know that it,
like why is dad's picture on top of the hoard?
Did it like?
I didn't know that his picture was on top of the stuff
before I was there that day.
And it was tough to see.
The feelings when everything is just
chaotic and topsy-turvy inside,
there's just no life in you at all.
And I knew he had to be in our home, his picture.
And I couldn't create a place that was honorable.
And given that you were in a fog.
- Oh definitely. - During the show.
- Oh, yes. - Right?
Do you remember all of it?
Parts of it?
No, I remember parts of it
and I just, it's a blur.
A lot of it is a blur.
Something clicks or switches off.
And until you, I have to do it,
until that moment that you tell yourself
enough is enough,
I am climbing out of that deep rabbit hole,
And I feel like today I've come right over the top now.
Janet has now been able to, you know,
unburden herself of this thing called hoarding.
Like, she gets help. She goes to a grief group.
She does these things in order to finally release herself
and her life.
But she had to get this part clear.
She had to truly clear the clutter so she could live.
Well, why don't you guys come and sit at the table
and we'll sit around the pool and chat.
Absolutely.
Wow. I have to take it all in, you know.
I mean...
How did you make a decision with 28 different patio sets?
How do you whittle it down to just-
I don't think there was 28.
Was there? - Alright.
I think it was 17 or something close.
- What? - Yeah.
When they did the final- - There were quite a few.
But how did you whittle it down to just,
you know, these few pieces that are left?
Well, some were just dilapidated.
- And you made the decision. - Yeah. I had to.
Yeah. - It's fantastic.
We're not staring at furniture.
We're sitting on furniture.
- Yeah. - You could have-
Like it's supposed to be used.
Yeah.
I'm so proud of you, honey.
Thank you so much.
You don't know how much that-
I'm so proud of you.
How much that means to me.
And I could not have gotten to this point without you.
I remember a couple times you kicking my butt, girl.
Oh, maybe we can't say that.
- You sure can. - Oh, okay.
I needed it, but I can remember though.
I would just stare at you.
Like...
- And... - Yeah.
And it was like it wasn't connecting,
but it was, everything that don't think it was in vain
because everything, as I was sorting through things,
as I was making decisions again here how many years later?
It's your little voice that I hear.
Well, let me tell you how important you all were to me.
I did keep something from 14 years ago.
- Really? - Let me get it
outta my pocket.
Savannah was drawing this.
Oh you should see.
During the hoard when we were working on the project,
and then she gave it to me.
Oh my gosh.
And I've kept it all these years.
So I do want her to know that I kept this
as an heirloom from our experience together.
- That is the sweetest thing. - And you've been my mind.
And of all the shows
that you have done and helped people.
And you have kept that. - I have.
I've been really lucky to be involved with people
who hoard and who also want to go beyond it,
who want to make the change.
I want you to really know where it all started.
It starts in your heart.
But let's even go back.
Do not ever forget the courage it took
for Amy to make that call.
That was why this all happened.
Thank you.
You literally changed your mother's and your own life.
This woman is not gonna give up.
She will have a life that she's always dreamed of,
taken a while, but she's gonna have it.
- We love you. - Love you sweetheart.
Thank you for giving us our family back
and for giving me back.
I love you. - Love you too, sweetheart.
I'll be in touch again.
- Okay. - Watch out.
- Please do. - Watch out.
Bye hon. - You're welcome anytime.
- Okay. - Thank you.
All right. See you later.
Beautiful stuff.
I wanna stay all afternoon.