1 00:00:02,375 --> 00:00:03,583 ♪ 2 00:00:03,667 --> 00:00:08,250 The biggest challenge in my house is excess stuff. 3 00:00:08,333 --> 00:00:11,125 Is this one of two main exits on the main floor? 4 00:00:11,208 --> 00:00:14,875 -Yeah. -It's a safety issue. 5 00:00:14,958 --> 00:00:17,000 The reason I moved out a year ago is because 6 00:00:17,042 --> 00:00:19,625 I couldn't take the rats anymore. 7 00:00:19,708 --> 00:00:22,875 I drives me crazy, but that's just the way it is. 8 00:00:22,958 --> 00:00:24,833 Everybody else has checked out. 9 00:00:24,875 --> 00:00:26,083 I've checked out too. 10 00:00:26,208 --> 00:00:29,000 There's a huge storm moving in! 11 00:00:29,042 --> 00:00:30,750 We need to focus on things that 12 00:00:30,750 --> 00:00:32,125 we can let go of right now. 13 00:00:32,208 --> 00:00:34,167 I'm not willing to just throw things away. 14 00:00:34,208 --> 00:00:36,875 -That's mold. -But that's a vinegar wash. 15 00:00:36,958 --> 00:00:38,458 That- You do not need this. 16 00:00:38,542 --> 00:00:40,500 If we keep moving at the speed that we're moving 17 00:00:40,542 --> 00:00:42,708 right now, there's no way we're going to get it done. 18 00:00:42,792 --> 00:00:44,375 It's a mental health problem. 19 00:00:44,458 --> 00:00:46,083 You can't keep all the furniture. 20 00:00:46,167 --> 00:00:48,333 You have to shrink this! 21 00:00:48,375 --> 00:00:50,208 You want to keep pressuring me, 22 00:00:50,292 --> 00:00:52,500 we're gonna see more resistance than you want. 23 00:00:52,542 --> 00:00:54,958 You can definitely see I don't live like you, 24 00:00:55,042 --> 00:00:56,292 and I don't want to. 25 00:00:56,375 --> 00:01:01,500 ♪ 26 00:01:01,542 --> 00:01:06,542 ♪ 27 00:01:10,250 --> 00:01:14,833 ♪ 28 00:01:14,875 --> 00:01:20,583 ♪ 29 00:01:20,667 --> 00:01:24,583 ♪ 30 00:01:24,708 --> 00:01:29,208 ♪ 31 00:01:29,292 --> 00:01:31,417 [Ship horn in the distance] 32 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:36,958 ♪ 33 00:01:37,042 --> 00:01:42,917 ♪ 34 00:01:42,917 --> 00:01:48,250 ♪ 35 00:01:48,333 --> 00:01:50,333 My name is Coral. 36 00:01:50,375 --> 00:01:53,000 I was born in South Africa. 37 00:01:53,042 --> 00:01:56,208 I come from a family of teachers. 38 00:01:56,292 --> 00:01:58,458 Mostly schoolteachers. 39 00:01:58,542 --> 00:02:02,167 It's always been about education for me. 40 00:02:02,208 --> 00:02:06,042 I'm a fibre artist. I do upholstery... 41 00:02:06,125 --> 00:02:08,167 Make soap. 42 00:02:08,208 --> 00:02:10,667 I'm an herbalist. 43 00:02:10,792 --> 00:02:13,042 I do canning and preserves. 44 00:02:13,167 --> 00:02:16,667 I'm an avid reader. 45 00:02:16,792 --> 00:02:19,375 I play the big double bass. 46 00:02:19,458 --> 00:02:23,333 I suffer from enjoying doing too many things. 47 00:02:23,417 --> 00:02:26,625 Over the years, I have collected a lot of stuff. 48 00:02:26,708 --> 00:02:29,083 ♪ 49 00:02:29,167 --> 00:02:31,625 I've always considered it a bit of a problem. 50 00:02:31,708 --> 00:02:34,833 ♪ 51 00:02:34,958 --> 00:02:36,458 When you come to my house, 52 00:02:36,542 --> 00:02:39,167 it's not even easy to get into because 53 00:02:39,208 --> 00:02:41,958 you have to step up into the house because 54 00:02:42,042 --> 00:02:45,083 the rotting deck had to be pulled out. 55 00:02:45,167 --> 00:02:49,042 The downstairs kitchen makes me feel really sad. 56 00:02:49,167 --> 00:02:52,167 For a year or so, we had a gas leak. 57 00:02:52,208 --> 00:02:55,000 We have rodent problems. 58 00:02:55,083 --> 00:02:57,208 And, it just stopped being a place 59 00:02:57,333 --> 00:03:00,083 that anybody was willing to use. 60 00:03:00,167 --> 00:03:02,750 ♪ 61 00:03:02,833 --> 00:03:04,167 The living room used to be the 62 00:03:04,292 --> 00:03:06,167 gathering point for the family. 63 00:03:06,292 --> 00:03:09,333 But now, it's just filled with... 64 00:03:09,458 --> 00:03:11,458 crap. 65 00:03:11,542 --> 00:03:15,083 The upstairs kitchen is the same way... 66 00:03:15,167 --> 00:03:16,958 Congested. 67 00:03:17,042 --> 00:03:19,458 The stuff is collections... 68 00:03:19,542 --> 00:03:21,500 of personal items, but... 69 00:03:21,583 --> 00:03:25,042 largely, a lot of reference texts and other... 70 00:03:25,167 --> 00:03:27,083 learning tools. 71 00:03:27,167 --> 00:03:29,833 I've always valued... 72 00:03:29,917 --> 00:03:32,375 any opportunity that I've had... 73 00:03:32,375 --> 00:03:35,542 to pass knowledge on to people. 74 00:03:35,625 --> 00:03:38,208 Fun was always secondary to that. 75 00:03:38,333 --> 00:03:40,250 All the fun in the world is great, 76 00:03:40,250 --> 00:03:45,208 as long as safety and knowledge is occurring. 77 00:03:45,292 --> 00:03:48,167 I'm just not lighthearted in that way, 78 00:03:48,208 --> 00:03:51,167 as a person. 79 00:03:51,250 --> 00:03:53,792 I guess I like to rescue some things that 80 00:03:53,875 --> 00:03:56,333 need finishing or repair. 81 00:03:56,375 --> 00:03:59,250 Some of the stuff are things that 82 00:03:59,333 --> 00:04:03,333 I have collected towards specific goals. 83 00:04:03,417 --> 00:04:06,542 I have over 50 coffee cans. 84 00:04:06,542 --> 00:04:10,375 I have kept them to do an art installation or 85 00:04:10,458 --> 00:04:13,917 shelving unit of some sort with them. 86 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,458 That has never come to pass. 87 00:04:17,542 --> 00:04:20,042 I believe that I have a purpose, 88 00:04:20,125 --> 00:04:24,250 that who I am and how I want to 89 00:04:24,333 --> 00:04:28,792 pass on knowledge is part of that. 90 00:04:28,875 --> 00:04:31,208 I always have envisioned 91 00:04:31,292 --> 00:04:33,792 putting together a resource centre. 92 00:04:33,875 --> 00:04:36,500 I want my home to be a haven for... 93 00:04:36,583 --> 00:04:39,917 anybody seeking knowledge, self-awareness, 94 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,833 creative expression. 95 00:04:42,875 --> 00:04:46,625 This stuff is here for creativity, but it's buried. 96 00:04:46,708 --> 00:04:56,500 ♪ 97 00:04:56,583 --> 00:05:00,250 The city sent a list of things that needed 98 00:05:00,250 --> 00:05:03,833 to be upgraded or repaired. 99 00:05:03,875 --> 00:05:06,833 The biggest fear is that the financial crap 100 00:05:06,958 --> 00:05:09,042 will take us down. 101 00:05:09,042 --> 00:05:11,417 And that's scary. 102 00:05:11,542 --> 00:05:14,458 The state the house has been in has already kept me 103 00:05:14,542 --> 00:05:17,667 at a pretty higher than normal stress level. 104 00:05:19,708 --> 00:05:24,583 My name is Jade, and I am Coral's middle daughter. 105 00:05:24,583 --> 00:05:30,167 My mom is probably the most unique person. 106 00:05:30,208 --> 00:05:32,083 She's never afraid to be herself... 107 00:05:32,167 --> 00:05:34,583 And she's... full of knowledge, 108 00:05:34,667 --> 00:05:37,417 so full of talent, so full of skill. 109 00:05:37,417 --> 00:05:41,000 She read us stories, she taught us art. 110 00:05:41,083 --> 00:05:42,333 And, when we moved into that house, 111 00:05:42,458 --> 00:05:46,333 she kept that space for that purpose. 112 00:05:46,375 --> 00:05:48,917 Ultimately, she has a problem, 113 00:05:49,042 --> 00:05:52,500 and she's incapable of controlling how much stuff 114 00:05:52,625 --> 00:05:55,250 she's gathering, and she hasn't been 115 00:05:55,333 --> 00:05:58,542 able to manage that. 116 00:05:58,667 --> 00:06:01,333 The reason I moved out a year ago is because 117 00:06:01,375 --> 00:06:03,708 I couldn't take the rats anymore. 118 00:06:03,792 --> 00:06:05,333 ♪ 119 00:06:05,375 --> 00:06:07,042 They were eating my clothes. 120 00:06:07,125 --> 00:06:09,500 They were dying on my floor. 121 00:06:09,542 --> 00:06:12,708 I had to get out, and I left it as it is, and like, 122 00:06:12,792 --> 00:06:15,667 I'll take full blame for that. 123 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:18,500 She basically moved out without really 124 00:06:18,542 --> 00:06:20,333 getting rid of anything. 125 00:06:20,375 --> 00:06:23,333 I just left the door closed on it because 126 00:06:23,375 --> 00:06:26,083 I was dealing with rodents in my kitchen. 127 00:06:26,083 --> 00:06:31,417 ♪ 128 00:06:31,542 --> 00:06:33,167 My name is Michael, 129 00:06:33,250 --> 00:06:36,333 and I am Coral's husband. 130 00:06:36,375 --> 00:06:40,417 We've raised three daughters on a single income. 131 00:06:40,542 --> 00:06:42,667 For 30 years of my working life, 132 00:06:42,792 --> 00:06:46,375 it was non-profit organizations... 133 00:06:46,458 --> 00:06:49,292 which doesn't really pay well, but... 134 00:06:49,375 --> 00:06:54,833 no one ever went short of any necessity. 135 00:06:54,875 --> 00:06:58,333 Coral's energy attracted me the moment we met. 136 00:06:58,333 --> 00:07:00,917 ♪ 137 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,333 She's creative... 138 00:07:03,417 --> 00:07:06,292 intelligent, and I still find her beautiful 139 00:07:06,375 --> 00:07:08,583 after all these years. 140 00:07:08,708 --> 00:07:12,750 But as we all do, she has her challenges. 141 00:07:12,833 --> 00:07:17,042 She has her idiosyncrasies. 142 00:07:17,167 --> 00:07:20,750 Every time she went to a yard sale or a second-hand store, 143 00:07:20,833 --> 00:07:23,750 and saw something in really good shape... 144 00:07:23,750 --> 00:07:25,917 she couldn't leave it there. 145 00:07:26,042 --> 00:07:29,333 ♪ 146 00:07:29,375 --> 00:07:32,458 Over the years, the energy inside the house 147 00:07:32,542 --> 00:07:35,208 just became more and more congested. 148 00:07:35,333 --> 00:07:37,833 ♪ 149 00:07:37,917 --> 00:07:42,125 Her fabric art, her woodworking interests... 150 00:07:42,208 --> 00:07:44,375 all of that was just... 151 00:07:44,375 --> 00:07:46,000 put aside because there was something 152 00:07:46,042 --> 00:07:48,333 more important going on. 153 00:07:48,375 --> 00:07:52,208 And, of course, none of those materials ever left because 154 00:07:52,333 --> 00:07:58,375 she was still aware of her desire to make use of them. 155 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:00,333 I'll love her whether she keeps it or loses it, 156 00:08:00,375 --> 00:08:02,500 I don't care. 157 00:08:04,833 --> 00:08:06,958 My name is Khendra, and I'm Coral's daughter. 158 00:08:07,042 --> 00:08:09,458 ♪ 159 00:08:09,542 --> 00:08:11,167 I sleep on a bunk bed, but because there's, like... 160 00:08:11,208 --> 00:08:13,333 too many mattresses, the mattresses are too thick, 161 00:08:13,458 --> 00:08:16,667 there's like literally that much space. 162 00:08:16,750 --> 00:08:20,292 There's clothes everywhere because the dressers I have... 163 00:08:20,375 --> 00:08:21,708 don't have space in them because 164 00:08:21,792 --> 00:08:24,500 they're not my dressers. 165 00:08:24,583 --> 00:08:26,958 It's a pain to try and... 166 00:08:27,042 --> 00:08:29,333 navigate through all the piles of stuff, 167 00:08:29,417 --> 00:08:32,917 so I just kind of avoid it. 168 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,375 The thing about my mom is she was a stay-at-home mom 169 00:08:34,542 --> 00:08:36,417 for 20 years and... 170 00:08:36,542 --> 00:08:39,000 now she's done raising her kids. 171 00:08:39,083 --> 00:08:41,250 But, in the past four years, like, 172 00:08:41,333 --> 00:08:42,625 she just hasn't been able to, like, 173 00:08:42,708 --> 00:08:43,750 move forward with the idea that 174 00:08:43,833 --> 00:08:45,667 she doesn't have to do that anymore. 175 00:08:45,708 --> 00:08:47,208 Most of the time, I'm not at home. 176 00:08:47,375 --> 00:08:48,625 It's pretty much how I do it, 177 00:08:48,708 --> 00:08:52,042 I just spend time other places. 178 00:08:52,125 --> 00:08:53,250 My name is Tanya. 179 00:08:53,333 --> 00:08:56,333 I am Coral's younger sister. 180 00:08:56,417 --> 00:08:59,333 Coral got all the attention, but... 181 00:08:59,417 --> 00:09:01,833 not necessarily in a healthy way. 182 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:06,083 It was just a lot of scrutiny and attention. 183 00:09:06,167 --> 00:09:07,833 She was the eldest. 184 00:09:07,875 --> 00:09:10,458 My brother is just a year younger. 185 00:09:10,542 --> 00:09:12,667 And, even like at the age of four, 186 00:09:12,750 --> 00:09:15,375 she was responsible for him. 187 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:18,125 My mom was very glamorous, 188 00:09:18,125 --> 00:09:20,583 and smart, and feisty. 189 00:09:20,708 --> 00:09:22,875 But we didn't talk. 190 00:09:22,875 --> 00:09:24,833 She just told me to do things, you know, 191 00:09:24,875 --> 00:09:27,750 peel the carrots, chop the ginger. 192 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:29,667 I was just like a little servant. 193 00:09:29,792 --> 00:09:31,375 Didn't feel very loved because 194 00:09:31,458 --> 00:09:34,708 there was no affection. 195 00:09:34,708 --> 00:09:38,833 I think my sister took it upon herself to parent me... 196 00:09:38,875 --> 00:09:41,000 where they weren't parenting me, 197 00:09:41,042 --> 00:09:45,375 I think just always felt the weight of responsibility 198 00:09:45,458 --> 00:09:48,208 on her shoulders. 199 00:09:48,292 --> 00:09:52,000 My parents were busy being a really bad couple at the time. 200 00:09:52,042 --> 00:09:55,833 My dad was running around, my mother was erratic, 201 00:09:55,917 --> 00:09:59,750 it was all a mess, and I was absorbing all of this... 202 00:09:59,833 --> 00:10:03,708 crazy tension, and I just played along until 203 00:10:03,833 --> 00:10:05,458 I got to an age where I went: 204 00:10:05,542 --> 00:10:08,083 "This game isn't fun anymore." 205 00:10:08,167 --> 00:10:16,667 ♪ 206 00:10:16,708 --> 00:10:20,000 There have been a lot of theories as to why my sister 207 00:10:20,125 --> 00:10:24,167 started developing a hoarding problem. 208 00:10:24,292 --> 00:10:26,750 I think it has... 209 00:10:26,833 --> 00:10:29,417 more to do with the fact that she never had a place of 210 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:32,125 her own, that she could call her own, and once she did, 211 00:10:32,208 --> 00:10:36,125 she just couldn't help but to fill it with all the things 212 00:10:36,208 --> 00:10:39,875 that she considered necessary, valuable, 213 00:10:39,958 --> 00:10:43,417 in that kind of antiquity way. 214 00:10:43,542 --> 00:10:47,875 I feel that the pace of society today is too fast... 215 00:10:47,875 --> 00:10:53,333 And, we are losing the ability to do things. 216 00:10:53,417 --> 00:10:54,792 We purchase things, 217 00:10:54,875 --> 00:10:56,833 but we don't know how things are made. 218 00:10:56,875 --> 00:10:59,667 We use things, but don't know 219 00:10:59,708 --> 00:11:02,500 how to maintain them or save them. 220 00:11:02,542 --> 00:11:05,000 And so, we're very wasteful. 221 00:11:05,125 --> 00:11:07,917 ♪ 222 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,375 My days are spent trying to organize 223 00:11:10,458 --> 00:11:15,000 a little bit of the chaos somewhere. 224 00:11:15,083 --> 00:11:18,333 Everything has become so piled up 225 00:11:18,417 --> 00:11:22,417 that I can't access things. 226 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:24,167 Everybody else is checked out. 227 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:25,417 They're on their devices. 228 00:11:25,542 --> 00:11:27,833 They don't do chores anymore. 229 00:11:27,875 --> 00:11:30,125 I've checked out too, but I'm not 230 00:11:30,208 --> 00:11:32,000 gaining anything from checking out. 231 00:11:32,042 --> 00:11:36,542 I'm just watching a little bit more of my life fall apart. 232 00:11:36,625 --> 00:11:39,792 It does make me feel hopeless, really... 233 00:11:39,875 --> 00:11:44,542 because the effort required to attack it 234 00:11:44,542 --> 00:11:47,458 has been beyond my energy levels 235 00:11:47,542 --> 00:11:52,375 and ability to address alone. 236 00:11:52,458 --> 00:11:54,792 Every Christmas, she would like invite everyone over, 237 00:11:54,917 --> 00:11:58,458 and there was never any space for anybody to sit down. 238 00:11:58,542 --> 00:12:01,000 [Voice breaking] All I want is for her to have the space 239 00:12:01,042 --> 00:12:03,958 to be able to invite people back into her home and 240 00:12:04,042 --> 00:12:05,917 to be able to, you know, spend time with the people 241 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,667 that she loves, the people that she cares about. 242 00:12:14,042 --> 00:12:23,667 ♪ 243 00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:26,333 The biggest challenge in my house is... 244 00:12:26,375 --> 00:12:29,208 excess stuff. 245 00:12:29,333 --> 00:12:31,750 It's not serving me, it's not serving my family, 246 00:12:31,833 --> 00:12:33,083 it's not serving the community, 247 00:12:33,208 --> 00:12:35,625 it's not serving God, it's not serving anything. 248 00:12:35,708 --> 00:12:37,042 I'm getting older, right. 249 00:12:37,125 --> 00:12:40,042 There's only so many years that I probably have left. 250 00:12:40,125 --> 00:12:43,250 And, with those years, what do I want to do? 251 00:12:43,333 --> 00:12:46,000 You know, I'd like to actively participate in 252 00:12:46,083 --> 00:12:50,292 some of my creative arts and talents, 253 00:12:50,375 --> 00:12:53,042 even if it's just for me, you know. 254 00:12:53,125 --> 00:12:57,000 I haven't been ready to discard things up until now. 255 00:12:57,125 --> 00:13:07,083 ♪ 256 00:13:12,083 --> 00:13:13,667 ♪ 257 00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:15,167 I'm Natasha Sharma. 258 00:13:15,250 --> 00:13:17,250 I'm a therapist with a doctorate in clinical psychology, 259 00:13:17,333 --> 00:13:19,500 and I specialize in anxiety disorders, 260 00:13:19,583 --> 00:13:21,167 including hoarding. 261 00:13:21,250 --> 00:13:23,042 [Knocking] 262 00:13:23,125 --> 00:13:26,792 ♪ 263 00:13:26,875 --> 00:13:28,583 [Creaking] 264 00:13:28,667 --> 00:13:30,083 -Hi, Coral? -Hello. 265 00:13:30,167 --> 00:13:32,250 -Hi, I'm Natasha. -Oh, nice to meet you. 266 00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:34,667 Nice to meet you as well. May I come in? 267 00:13:34,750 --> 00:13:36,125 -Yes, please come in. -Thank you. 268 00:13:36,208 --> 00:13:38,792 It was a bit tricky to get up to the front door, 269 00:13:38,792 --> 00:13:40,500 but I made it. 270 00:13:40,542 --> 00:13:41,708 How's your morning been? 271 00:13:41,833 --> 00:13:44,167 Um, I'm pretty good. 272 00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:46,333 Can you share with me a little bit about your home? 273 00:13:46,375 --> 00:13:48,750 Like how long you've been living here and 274 00:13:48,833 --> 00:13:50,417 who lives here with you? 275 00:13:50,417 --> 00:13:53,375 We've been living here I think about 14 years. 276 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:55,833 It's my husband and I, 277 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 and my youngest daughter's with us right now. 278 00:13:58,042 --> 00:14:01,167 And when would you say this began to be a problem? 279 00:14:01,250 --> 00:14:03,042 It hasn't been an ongoing problem, 280 00:14:03,167 --> 00:14:04,833 although once I started raising children, 281 00:14:04,875 --> 00:14:06,833 I've had a fair amount of stuff. 282 00:14:06,917 --> 00:14:09,708 In the last four years, five years, 283 00:14:09,792 --> 00:14:12,000 I've lost energy as I've aged. 284 00:14:12,083 --> 00:14:13,792 The kids have stopped participating 285 00:14:13,875 --> 00:14:15,542 in chores and so forth. 286 00:14:15,625 --> 00:14:17,583 It's becoming a bit of a problem. 287 00:14:17,667 --> 00:14:19,375 We've also had pests. 288 00:14:19,458 --> 00:14:23,000 In the last couple years it's been, you know, 289 00:14:23,042 --> 00:14:26,250 wood rats that have taken over. 290 00:14:26,333 --> 00:14:28,292 I'm sure we'll have lots to talk about. 291 00:14:28,375 --> 00:14:30,542 I'd love to see the rest of your home, Coral, 292 00:14:30,625 --> 00:14:31,667 if that would be okay with you? 293 00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:33,417 -That'd be fine. -Wonderful. 294 00:14:33,417 --> 00:14:35,375 -Okay, let's start. -I'll follow you. 295 00:14:35,458 --> 00:14:38,333 -Okay. -Alright. 296 00:14:38,417 --> 00:14:42,250 So, as you can see, this is the living room. 297 00:14:42,333 --> 00:14:45,250 Ah, be careful how you step. 298 00:14:45,333 --> 00:14:48,417 Ah, as you can see, it's trying to do a 299 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:51,083 little bit of too many things at the same time. 300 00:14:51,083 --> 00:14:52,500 Yeah. 301 00:14:52,583 --> 00:14:54,833 Is anyone doing any actual living in here? 302 00:14:54,917 --> 00:14:56,833 Not recently. 303 00:14:56,917 --> 00:14:59,917 Part of the problem here is just I've always needed 304 00:15:00,042 --> 00:15:01,833 a lot of engaging, like I like, 305 00:15:01,917 --> 00:15:03,875 I like to engage with people. 306 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,333 And, as the kids have... 307 00:15:06,375 --> 00:15:10,000 aged and got phones and got devices, 308 00:15:10,083 --> 00:15:12,917 they've been off in their corners doing what they do 309 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,333 and, left me in sort of silence, right, silence, 310 00:15:17,375 --> 00:15:21,542 and that has definitely impacted my ability... 311 00:15:21,625 --> 00:15:25,167 to be willing to... 312 00:15:25,208 --> 00:15:27,875 constantly maintain, maintain. 313 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,500 So, I- it's been a factor. 314 00:15:30,583 --> 00:15:31,917 Alright. 315 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,083 Would you like to show me the rest of the house? 316 00:15:33,083 --> 00:15:34,958 -Sure, let's go. -Wonderful, I'll follow you. 317 00:15:35,042 --> 00:15:37,083 Okay, okay. 318 00:15:37,083 --> 00:15:44,375 ♪ 319 00:15:44,458 --> 00:15:48,833 So, you've got to do a bit of twisting and turning here. 320 00:15:48,917 --> 00:15:50,667 It's like a little, is this a- 321 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:52,375 It's a maze, a bit of a maze. 322 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:53,625 Kind of feels like one. 323 00:15:53,708 --> 00:15:56,792 Yeah, it's the part that drives me the most crazy. 324 00:15:56,875 --> 00:15:58,375 What's happening here? What's...? 325 00:15:58,458 --> 00:16:00,250 A non-functioning washer and dryer. 326 00:16:00,375 --> 00:16:02,167 This is- oh, the washer and dryer's under there. 327 00:16:02,250 --> 00:16:04,250 There's, yeah, there's the dryer. 328 00:16:04,375 --> 00:16:06,083 The washer is what was in the kitchen. 329 00:16:06,167 --> 00:16:09,208 And, so, this is mostly 330 00:16:09,292 --> 00:16:12,042 my dirty laundry and collected laundry. 331 00:16:12,167 --> 00:16:16,000 And this dryer is blocking the back door. 332 00:16:16,042 --> 00:16:17,208 Mhm. Oh! 333 00:16:17,292 --> 00:16:20,542 -There's a door behind that. -Okay. 334 00:16:20,625 --> 00:16:23,583 Is this one of two main exits on the main floor? 335 00:16:23,708 --> 00:16:25,542 You've got the front door and then this one. 336 00:16:25,667 --> 00:16:27,458 How do you feel about that? 337 00:16:27,542 --> 00:16:29,583 ♪ 338 00:16:29,667 --> 00:16:33,000 I think I stopped letting myself feel about that for... 339 00:16:33,083 --> 00:16:34,667 a long time ago. 340 00:16:34,750 --> 00:16:36,833 It's concerning. 341 00:16:36,875 --> 00:16:39,792 It's a safety issue, for sure. 342 00:16:39,875 --> 00:16:41,375 -Do you see it? -Yeah. 343 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:44,667 Yeah, yeah. 344 00:16:44,708 --> 00:16:46,000 -Okay. -Let's move on. 345 00:16:46,042 --> 00:16:47,875 -Let's go. -There's more to see. 346 00:16:47,958 --> 00:16:49,500 We'll walk this way. 347 00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:54,042 So, this was converted into a music room. 348 00:16:54,125 --> 00:16:56,375 And that's my double bass, 349 00:16:56,458 --> 00:16:57,833 because I play the double bass. 350 00:16:57,917 --> 00:16:59,458 My husband plays the violins. 351 00:16:59,542 --> 00:17:02,708 The kids played the various horns and flutes. 352 00:17:02,792 --> 00:17:07,167 Was this a room where people actually played regularly? 353 00:17:07,250 --> 00:17:09,792 Was this an actual music room that was used to 354 00:17:09,875 --> 00:17:13,167 for practicing and, and skill building? 355 00:17:13,250 --> 00:17:16,625 It never really got to be that too much. 356 00:17:16,708 --> 00:17:18,083 Let me show you upstairs. 357 00:17:18,167 --> 00:17:19,875 Sounds great. 358 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,542 ♪ 359 00:17:24,625 --> 00:17:26,583 -Careful. -Okay. 360 00:17:26,667 --> 00:17:29,208 ♪ 361 00:17:29,208 --> 00:17:30,917 How many books do you have, Coral? 362 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,917 Hm, thousands. 363 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,250 Is it okay if- I don't want to step on- 364 00:17:34,375 --> 00:17:36,750 -Yeah, please. Whatever. -It's okay to step on this? 365 00:17:36,875 --> 00:17:38,000 Yeah, you're not going to be able to 366 00:17:38,083 --> 00:17:40,208 get through without stepping on things. 367 00:17:40,292 --> 00:17:42,583 We'll just take a look, and then get out of here, 368 00:17:42,667 --> 00:17:45,375 'cause there's really no way to get fully in here. 369 00:17:45,458 --> 00:17:48,125 I haven't even been in here. 370 00:17:48,208 --> 00:17:51,625 Wow. This is Jade's old room. 371 00:17:51,708 --> 00:17:56,542 Well, yeah. So she moved in a year, ah... ago. 372 00:17:56,625 --> 00:17:59,333 A year and a half ago, I don't know, during COVID. 373 00:17:59,375 --> 00:18:01,500 And left here about a year ago. 374 00:18:01,583 --> 00:18:04,458 And left her room like this. The door's been closed. 375 00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:07,333 So, rats have been in here, 376 00:18:07,417 --> 00:18:09,875 probably destroying the bed and things. 377 00:18:09,958 --> 00:18:13,208 And, um, you know, I wonder if... 378 00:18:13,292 --> 00:18:16,708 she's developing a hoarding habit. 379 00:18:16,792 --> 00:18:18,042 -Alright. -Okay. 380 00:18:18,167 --> 00:18:19,125 You'll have to go ahead of me. 381 00:18:19,208 --> 00:18:20,875 Let's make our way back this way. 382 00:18:20,958 --> 00:18:24,833 ♪ 383 00:18:24,917 --> 00:18:25,958 So, this is Khendra's room. 384 00:18:26,042 --> 00:18:28,500 Mhm. 385 00:18:28,625 --> 00:18:31,333 What's been your parenting approach? 386 00:18:31,375 --> 00:18:33,333 What- How would you describe it? 387 00:18:33,417 --> 00:18:37,125 Well, I'm the tough nut, and he's the softy. 388 00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:39,000 Have you tried to put limits on them 389 00:18:39,083 --> 00:18:40,750 as teenagers and adults? 390 00:18:40,833 --> 00:18:43,667 That sense of authority, like this is your home? 391 00:18:43,708 --> 00:18:46,042 Yeah, I have attempted to. 392 00:18:46,167 --> 00:18:49,375 -Uh-huh? -But... 393 00:18:49,375 --> 00:18:53,292 There's a little bit of disdain. A lack of interest in 394 00:18:53,375 --> 00:18:56,208 being part of the solution to the problem. 395 00:18:56,292 --> 00:18:57,542 On their- from their end? 396 00:18:57,625 --> 00:19:00,208 Yeah, and... 397 00:19:00,292 --> 00:19:03,083 you know, I mean, I think... 398 00:19:03,167 --> 00:19:04,708 if it gets cleaned up, 399 00:19:04,833 --> 00:19:07,625 they will do a better job of maintaining it. 400 00:19:07,708 --> 00:19:09,792 [Natasha] I don't think she makes the connection between 401 00:19:09,875 --> 00:19:13,500 how unrealistic it is to expect them to clean up 402 00:19:13,583 --> 00:19:17,208 after themselves when she's not able to do it, herself. 403 00:19:17,292 --> 00:19:20,167 So, this is the upstairs kitchen. 404 00:19:20,250 --> 00:19:23,000 This is supposed to be a production kitchen. 405 00:19:23,042 --> 00:19:24,542 Mhm. 406 00:19:24,625 --> 00:19:27,292 I make herbal preparations and 407 00:19:27,375 --> 00:19:31,042 I like to can and do preserves. 408 00:19:31,125 --> 00:19:33,208 Is this a hobby you've always had or...? 409 00:19:33,292 --> 00:19:35,542 Well, some of it I learned from my grandmother. 410 00:19:35,625 --> 00:19:39,083 We used to do peaches, and pears, and jam. 411 00:19:39,208 --> 00:19:42,000 And then, the herbs and stuff... 412 00:19:42,083 --> 00:19:44,167 a little bit I learned from my grandmother. 413 00:19:44,208 --> 00:19:46,708 But mostly, I've been studying herbs and 414 00:19:46,792 --> 00:19:51,333 working with them for, you know, over 30 years. 415 00:19:51,417 --> 00:19:53,833 [Natasha] Each of these rooms is like a hodgepodge. 416 00:19:53,917 --> 00:19:55,792 It's a mishmash of stuff. 417 00:19:55,875 --> 00:20:01,167 There's no dedicated space for any one interest or hobby. 418 00:20:01,208 --> 00:20:04,500 Coral seems to have a lot of... 419 00:20:04,542 --> 00:20:07,500 visions and ideas for things she wants to do, 420 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:09,500 hobbies she wants to take up... 421 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:12,042 things she'd like to try. But my sense is, 422 00:20:12,125 --> 00:20:15,333 she's never actualized any of these things. 423 00:20:15,375 --> 00:20:17,500 This is the upstairs bathroom. 424 00:20:17,583 --> 00:20:19,917 And it's the place that we bathe. 425 00:20:20,042 --> 00:20:23,208 And, Khendra has adopted it a little bit, 426 00:20:23,292 --> 00:20:26,042 so it's a bit messier than it needs to be. 427 00:20:26,167 --> 00:20:29,167 I do hear a lot of... 428 00:20:29,250 --> 00:20:31,667 emphasis on their contribution. 429 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:34,917 And I'm curious if you can see... 430 00:20:35,042 --> 00:20:36,125 Are you aware of that, 431 00:20:36,208 --> 00:20:37,625 that there's an emphasis on what 432 00:20:37,708 --> 00:20:40,250 the kids have done to contribute to this? 433 00:20:40,333 --> 00:20:42,583 Ah, yeah. 434 00:20:42,667 --> 00:20:45,500 ♪ 435 00:20:45,583 --> 00:20:46,958 Well, I mean, I definitely have some 436 00:20:47,042 --> 00:20:48,542 responsibility in it, right? 437 00:20:48,625 --> 00:20:50,250 Do you think you're blaming the kids? 438 00:20:50,333 --> 00:20:53,708 Um, well, I'd say I think it sounds like that. 439 00:20:53,792 --> 00:20:55,917 I am definitely... 440 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,333 their involvement or their lack of involvement 441 00:20:58,375 --> 00:21:00,833 is definitely a factor. 442 00:21:00,958 --> 00:21:03,583 [Natasha] What is your vision 443 00:21:03,667 --> 00:21:06,167 for what happens with this home? 444 00:21:06,167 --> 00:21:09,292 [Coral] I'm hoping to divest myself of 445 00:21:09,375 --> 00:21:12,833 a lot of unneeded things, and reclaim the space. 446 00:21:12,917 --> 00:21:16,500 The city building standards have given us notice of 447 00:21:16,583 --> 00:21:18,167 things that need to be done. 448 00:21:18,208 --> 00:21:20,208 What happens if you don't meet the 449 00:21:20,333 --> 00:21:22,250 list that they've outlined? 450 00:21:22,333 --> 00:21:24,792 Like, big fine: $25,000 fine or something. 451 00:21:24,875 --> 00:21:28,625 Whoa! Okay, that's, that's a big fine. 452 00:21:28,708 --> 00:21:30,708 Financial stress is never a good thing, 453 00:21:30,833 --> 00:21:33,375 but my concern in this case is it being the only 454 00:21:33,458 --> 00:21:36,375 motivator for Coral to do what she's doing, 455 00:21:36,375 --> 00:21:40,458 I hope that you will take advantage of myself. 456 00:21:40,542 --> 00:21:43,708 I'm here throughout this process to help you through 457 00:21:43,792 --> 00:21:45,625 some of the emotional hurdles that I think are 458 00:21:45,708 --> 00:21:47,542 invariably going to come up. 459 00:21:47,667 --> 00:21:51,125 I don't get a sense of any really strong 460 00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:54,125 external factors that could be promoting 461 00:21:54,208 --> 00:21:56,833 an internal change for her. 462 00:21:56,875 --> 00:21:58,542 My sense is that she's doing this to 463 00:21:58,625 --> 00:22:00,792 ensure that she doesn't receive a fine. 464 00:22:00,875 --> 00:22:01,667 ♪ 465 00:22:05,875 --> 00:22:12,333 ♪ 466 00:22:12,375 --> 00:22:13,708 When you're good at one or two things, 467 00:22:13,792 --> 00:22:16,208 it becomes very easy to choose your focus. 468 00:22:16,292 --> 00:22:18,000 But when you're good at tons of things, 469 00:22:18,083 --> 00:22:20,167 or when you have tons of interests, 470 00:22:20,208 --> 00:22:22,458 it can create that disorganized feeling. 471 00:22:22,542 --> 00:22:25,292 Which one do I go for? What do I do? 472 00:22:25,292 --> 00:22:27,375 And I really see this in Coral. 473 00:22:27,458 --> 00:22:28,917 And I think this might be contributing to her 474 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,750 not trying or not actualizing any of these 475 00:22:31,833 --> 00:22:33,958 many interests that she has. 476 00:22:34,042 --> 00:22:43,250 ♪ 477 00:22:43,375 --> 00:22:44,750 Hi, Coral, hi, Mike. 478 00:22:44,875 --> 00:22:46,458 -Hi. -Hi. 479 00:22:46,542 --> 00:22:47,875 I'd like to introduce you both to Julio, 480 00:22:47,958 --> 00:22:49,792 our professional organizer. -How are you? 481 00:22:49,875 --> 00:22:51,500 -Hi, Julio. -Pleased to meet you. 482 00:22:51,583 --> 00:22:54,250 My name is Julio Rivera, and I'm a professional organizer 483 00:22:54,333 --> 00:22:56,667 who specializes in hoarding cleanups. 484 00:22:56,708 --> 00:23:00,042 Julio, when you take Tanya and Jade inside, 485 00:23:00,125 --> 00:23:01,875 a couple of things to keep in mind. 486 00:23:01,958 --> 00:23:04,458 The home is a mix of 487 00:23:04,542 --> 00:23:07,125 treasures, beautiful things. 488 00:23:07,208 --> 00:23:10,500 I think, Coral, you have so many passion projects. 489 00:23:10,583 --> 00:23:12,375 Some of them realized, some of them started, 490 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:14,250 some of them finished, unfinished, 491 00:23:14,333 --> 00:23:16,958 and they're all kind of throughout this home. 492 00:23:17,042 --> 00:23:21,125 One of the things to keep in mind is how we are going to 493 00:23:21,208 --> 00:23:25,333 curate what's in there, and really bring out what is 494 00:23:25,375 --> 00:23:27,333 most important to you, Coral, so that you can 495 00:23:27,417 --> 00:23:30,667 actually focus on it and enjoy what's... 496 00:23:30,792 --> 00:23:33,333 important to you in this home. 497 00:23:33,375 --> 00:23:34,500 That'd be great. 498 00:23:34,542 --> 00:23:35,667 Would you like to show me inside? 499 00:23:35,708 --> 00:23:37,917 -Absolutely. -Okay, after you. 500 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:45,667 ♪ 501 00:23:45,708 --> 00:23:48,208 Alright, let's watch our step here. 502 00:23:48,292 --> 00:23:49,667 Ooh, yeah, be careful. 503 00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:50,792 Alright... 504 00:23:50,875 --> 00:23:53,917 I have not been up here in years. 505 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,375 ♪ 506 00:23:58,458 --> 00:24:00,750 -Okay, be careful. -Oh wow, okay. 507 00:24:00,833 --> 00:24:02,333 I actually just almost tripped. 508 00:24:02,417 --> 00:24:03,958 Okay, what is this room supposed to be? 509 00:24:04,042 --> 00:24:07,000 It used to be a second living room. 510 00:24:07,083 --> 00:24:08,792 -Okay. -Um... 511 00:24:08,875 --> 00:24:10,708 It... uh. 512 00:24:10,708 --> 00:24:13,375 I gotta see what's around the corner here. 513 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:16,083 -Got some mold over here. -A few years. 514 00:24:16,167 --> 00:24:17,458 Man, water damage. 515 00:24:17,542 --> 00:24:19,458 -Yeah, mold over there. -Yep. 516 00:24:19,542 --> 00:24:20,792 First thing I noticed 517 00:24:20,875 --> 00:24:23,542 when I walk into this place was the smell. 518 00:24:23,542 --> 00:24:27,167 I think this is where Mike hangs out after work. 519 00:24:27,208 --> 00:24:29,500 This is his relaxation spot. 520 00:24:29,583 --> 00:24:30,708 This is the relaxing area? 521 00:24:30,833 --> 00:24:32,333 This is his relaxation spot, 522 00:24:32,375 --> 00:24:35,000 where he plays on a laptop, and... 523 00:24:35,042 --> 00:24:37,125 It's a little concerning because I feel like 524 00:24:37,208 --> 00:24:39,000 there's a lot of weight up here. 525 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,083 Yeah, a lot of furniture that's not even being used 526 00:24:42,208 --> 00:24:43,917 and doesn't need to be up here. 527 00:24:44,042 --> 00:24:44,875 You're in this room and 528 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,667 you don't feel like you can breathe. 529 00:24:46,750 --> 00:24:48,542 You don't feel like there's space to breathe. 530 00:24:48,667 --> 00:24:50,292 To be honest, I, I don't feel safe in here. 531 00:24:50,375 --> 00:24:55,500 ♪ 532 00:24:55,542 --> 00:24:58,208 -What's this space? -It was a kitchen. 533 00:24:58,292 --> 00:24:59,667 Oh, my! 534 00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:02,500 I mean, there's a stove back here... 535 00:25:02,542 --> 00:25:06,333 and a freezer right here, and a sink, and a counter, 536 00:25:06,375 --> 00:25:08,583 and a cupboard, and a fridge, 537 00:25:08,667 --> 00:25:12,292 but it's not being used as a kitchen. 538 00:25:12,375 --> 00:25:14,292 When was the last time they actually used this space? 539 00:25:14,375 --> 00:25:17,917 I think the year that we moved into the house, at most. 540 00:25:18,042 --> 00:25:19,583 And you, you're a little claustrophobic? 541 00:25:19,667 --> 00:25:21,875 I'm very claustrophobic, and this, 542 00:25:21,958 --> 00:25:23,667 this scares me, to be honest. 543 00:25:23,792 --> 00:25:27,125 And looking into these boxes is going to... 544 00:25:27,208 --> 00:25:30,250 be a little difficult for me when that time comes, 545 00:25:30,375 --> 00:25:33,417 but all in the name of love. 546 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:34,958 It looks like a serious problem to me. 547 00:25:35,042 --> 00:25:36,125 It is a serious problem. 548 00:25:36,208 --> 00:25:37,542 Okay, because we've got some issues here. 549 00:25:37,667 --> 00:25:40,042 We have some water damage here on the ceiling. 550 00:25:40,125 --> 00:25:42,833 It looks like we got a lot of garbage here. 551 00:25:42,917 --> 00:25:46,500 This has been my reality for a long time. 552 00:25:46,583 --> 00:25:48,292 -Okay. -So... 553 00:25:48,375 --> 00:25:52,625 ♪ 554 00:25:52,750 --> 00:25:54,958 [Effort grunting] 555 00:25:55,042 --> 00:25:56,833 Are you serious? 556 00:25:56,875 --> 00:25:58,583 Hold on, somebody sleeps here? 557 00:25:58,708 --> 00:26:00,042 Yeah, Khendra sleeps right here. 558 00:26:00,042 --> 00:26:01,708 And you know what? Ultimately, 559 00:26:01,792 --> 00:26:03,667 I feel like most of this clutter right here, 560 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:05,625 she has made herself. -Okay. 561 00:26:05,708 --> 00:26:08,333 And all of this clothes is hers. 562 00:26:08,417 --> 00:26:10,708 But the boxes and the stuff up top, 563 00:26:10,792 --> 00:26:12,417 my mom definitely put there. 564 00:26:12,542 --> 00:26:13,833 Alright, just watch your step here. 565 00:26:13,875 --> 00:26:17,000 There's a lot of random stuff here. 566 00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:19,625 This is probably one of the most cluttered rooms, 567 00:26:19,708 --> 00:26:21,625 do you remember this? -Yes, absolutely. 568 00:26:21,708 --> 00:26:23,792 I stopped living in here because 569 00:26:23,875 --> 00:26:25,667 I would be laying in bed, 570 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:29,958 and the rats would be crawling under my bed and... 571 00:26:30,042 --> 00:26:32,125 -Sounds super unhealthy. -Yeah, it was. 572 00:26:32,208 --> 00:26:34,083 It was not my favorite. 573 00:26:34,167 --> 00:26:36,417 ♪ 574 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:38,333 I know what you should see. 575 00:26:38,417 --> 00:26:40,333 This is the kitchen. 576 00:26:40,417 --> 00:26:43,083 This room is probably going to be the easiest to clear- 577 00:26:43,167 --> 00:26:46,083 The cleanest in the house, I would say. 578 00:26:46,167 --> 00:26:50,542 This room is the reason I stopped coming to this house. 579 00:26:50,667 --> 00:26:51,875 Oh, I can feel it- 580 00:26:51,875 --> 00:26:53,375 there's a serious airflow problem in here. 581 00:26:53,458 --> 00:26:54,875 In the whole house. 582 00:26:54,958 --> 00:26:57,083 It's because stuff is piled so high, you know, as... 583 00:26:57,167 --> 00:27:00,333 it, it feels like the walls are closing in on you 584 00:27:00,375 --> 00:27:03,375 sometimes because of how high she stacked the piles, 585 00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:05,333 and then how far in they come. 586 00:27:05,458 --> 00:27:07,917 -It's, it's a lot. -It is a lot. 587 00:27:08,042 --> 00:27:10,167 -Where's the sitting area? -Oh, that couch was- 588 00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:12,667 It's under- that couch- It's under those boxes. 589 00:27:12,708 --> 00:27:16,250 I've been here the whole time that it's accumulated, 590 00:27:16,250 --> 00:27:18,708 and it's never felt out of the ordinary to me until 591 00:27:18,792 --> 00:27:20,625 I go into somebody else's house. 592 00:27:20,708 --> 00:27:23,167 You can walk into their house and there's space. 593 00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:25,167 That's when it hits me, it's not when I'm here. 594 00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:26,750 When I'm here, this is just my life. 595 00:27:26,833 --> 00:27:28,625 This is, this is the house I grew up in, 596 00:27:28,708 --> 00:27:30,250 and this is just my mom's home. 597 00:27:30,333 --> 00:27:32,833 ♪ 598 00:27:32,875 --> 00:27:34,333 How is all this stuff affecting your relationship 599 00:27:34,417 --> 00:27:35,417 with your mom? 600 00:27:35,542 --> 00:27:37,000 Ah, well... 601 00:27:37,083 --> 00:27:38,667 I think that when I was younger, 602 00:27:38,708 --> 00:27:40,500 it affected my relationship with her a great deal 603 00:27:40,542 --> 00:27:42,417 more than it does now. 604 00:27:42,542 --> 00:27:45,417 Like, when I had to, you know... 605 00:27:45,542 --> 00:27:47,333 earn my right to my own bedroom, 606 00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:48,542 and I had to- you know, 607 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,000 I was being held responsible for 608 00:27:50,042 --> 00:27:51,375 sorting through the stuff that she had piled in that 609 00:27:51,375 --> 00:27:53,833 room in order to have my own bed to sleep in. 610 00:27:53,917 --> 00:27:56,375 I used to feel like, you know, that was personal, 611 00:27:56,458 --> 00:27:58,833 like it was something she was doing to me instead of, 612 00:27:58,958 --> 00:28:02,000 you know, just that she has a problem and, 613 00:28:02,083 --> 00:28:04,583 she hasn't been able to get a handle on it for years. 614 00:28:04,667 --> 00:28:06,833 If anyone tries to talk to her about... 615 00:28:06,875 --> 00:28:09,125 you know, "Can you see it?" 616 00:28:09,125 --> 00:28:10,833 She, A, doesn't. 617 00:28:10,875 --> 00:28:16,000 And B, even when she does, she likes to transfer- 618 00:28:16,083 --> 00:28:17,083 And justify it. 619 00:28:17,167 --> 00:28:18,625 Yeah, she likes to either justify it or 620 00:28:18,708 --> 00:28:19,958 she'll transfer the blame. 621 00:28:20,042 --> 00:28:21,958 So, that's going to be the challenge because 622 00:28:22,042 --> 00:28:24,583 I think she has a hard time understanding that 623 00:28:24,708 --> 00:28:26,583 it has to begin with her. 624 00:28:26,708 --> 00:28:28,250 This is such a big house. 625 00:28:28,333 --> 00:28:31,083 There's a lot of potential fire hazards. 626 00:28:31,167 --> 00:28:33,333 There's so much garbage everywhere. 627 00:28:33,417 --> 00:28:36,375 The weight limit of the upstairs are unknown. 628 00:28:36,458 --> 00:28:38,833 And, I don't know how many people I can have up there 629 00:28:38,875 --> 00:28:41,708 at once, so we gotta minimize that risk. 630 00:28:41,833 --> 00:28:44,250 We have two older people that live in this home. 631 00:28:44,333 --> 00:28:45,917 This is an emergency, 632 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,625 and we need to treat it as such. 633 00:28:47,708 --> 00:28:48,833 ♪ [Suspenseful] 634 00:28:53,042 --> 00:28:58,708 ♪ 635 00:28:58,792 --> 00:29:00,750 I'm not sure what's going on with Coral yet. 636 00:29:00,833 --> 00:29:02,750 She's very complex. 637 00:29:02,833 --> 00:29:07,000 And, I'm still learning about what motivates her. 638 00:29:07,167 --> 00:29:11,000 She's primed a narrative and a mindset for herself, 639 00:29:11,125 --> 00:29:13,667 which has almost resigned herself to 640 00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:16,292 the situation around her. 641 00:29:16,375 --> 00:29:18,625 This process is going to be stressful for Coral. 642 00:29:18,708 --> 00:29:20,000 I think it's going to be stressful for 643 00:29:20,125 --> 00:29:22,375 the family members as well. 644 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:23,833 ♪ 645 00:29:23,875 --> 00:29:25,458 They're both getting older, it doesn't seem like 646 00:29:25,542 --> 00:29:27,167 they're capable of change without 647 00:29:27,208 --> 00:29:28,875 some kind of outside catalyst, 648 00:29:28,958 --> 00:29:32,250 which is what I'm hoping this will be. 649 00:29:32,333 --> 00:29:34,542 My biggest fear is that no matter how hard 650 00:29:34,625 --> 00:29:36,000 that we all try... 651 00:29:36,083 --> 00:29:37,833 no matter how much progress that we all make, 652 00:29:37,917 --> 00:29:40,042 that it won't be enough. 653 00:29:40,125 --> 00:29:46,542 ♪ 654 00:29:46,625 --> 00:29:50,542 [Vehicle beeping] 655 00:29:50,667 --> 00:29:54,458 ♪ 656 00:29:54,542 --> 00:29:55,917 Good morning, everybody. 657 00:29:56,042 --> 00:29:57,042 It's good to see you all. 658 00:29:57,125 --> 00:29:59,625 -Morning. -Wow, look at this group. 659 00:29:59,708 --> 00:30:01,333 You have a lot of love. 660 00:30:01,458 --> 00:30:03,167 A lot of family here with you 661 00:30:03,208 --> 00:30:05,708 to help you through this process. 662 00:30:05,875 --> 00:30:09,250 Coral, are you ready to start putting your family, 663 00:30:09,375 --> 00:30:13,208 your passions, your plans for the future, 664 00:30:13,292 --> 00:30:18,125 and actually, really yourself, above all the clutter? 665 00:30:18,208 --> 00:30:19,833 I think so. 666 00:30:19,917 --> 00:30:21,625 We're not just doing a big cleanup of the house 667 00:30:21,708 --> 00:30:23,083 over the next few days. 668 00:30:23,167 --> 00:30:26,208 We're looking to create lasting change for you, 669 00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:29,167 so you can, not just enjoy your home, 670 00:30:29,250 --> 00:30:31,417 but start to enjoy your life. 671 00:30:31,542 --> 00:30:33,333 -Okay? -Okay. 672 00:30:33,417 --> 00:30:37,208 Mike, give yourself permission to have more 673 00:30:37,292 --> 00:30:39,500 opinions about this as we move through it. 674 00:30:39,542 --> 00:30:42,250 I think it's important, so that you feel like you're 675 00:30:42,333 --> 00:30:45,708 a team, and that this is your home together. 676 00:30:45,875 --> 00:30:48,958 That's a fair expectation, and I... 677 00:30:49,042 --> 00:30:51,458 will do my best to fulfill it. 678 00:30:51,542 --> 00:30:55,000 I'd like to introduce the Extreme Clean Group. 679 00:30:55,125 --> 00:30:57,958 Okay, they're going to be an extra set of hands. 680 00:30:58,042 --> 00:30:59,208 We're going to need it, right. 681 00:30:59,292 --> 00:31:02,500 -Yeah, that'll be good. -Okay. 682 00:31:02,583 --> 00:31:05,792 One of my biggest concerns is the structural integrity 683 00:31:05,792 --> 00:31:07,667 of the home, okay? 684 00:31:07,708 --> 00:31:09,458 The upstairs has a lot of stuff. 685 00:31:09,542 --> 00:31:13,250 That's putting a lot of weight on that structure. 686 00:31:13,375 --> 00:31:15,375 So, I want to make sure that we get to that first to 687 00:31:15,458 --> 00:31:18,917 make this place a little bit safer for everybody. 688 00:31:19,042 --> 00:31:22,583 Is there any anxiety for you there? 689 00:31:22,667 --> 00:31:25,000 I'm just concerned that things don't get jumbled 690 00:31:25,083 --> 00:31:30,417 together, and that I see things before they go away. 691 00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:33,083 So, I'm hearing that you want to make sure that something 692 00:31:33,167 --> 00:31:35,458 doesn't slip through the cracks in this process, 693 00:31:35,542 --> 00:31:38,500 that's valuable to you, sentimentally or otherwise, 694 00:31:38,583 --> 00:31:41,958 and that we stay on top of that to make sure. 695 00:31:42,042 --> 00:31:44,917 Yeah, that's my biggest concern. 696 00:31:45,042 --> 00:31:48,417 As things come out, they will be placed on their 697 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:52,583 own individual tarp that matches that room. 698 00:31:52,667 --> 00:31:54,500 So, do I have your permission 699 00:31:54,583 --> 00:31:55,667 to begin clearing this home? 700 00:31:55,708 --> 00:31:57,208 Yes. 701 00:31:57,292 --> 00:31:59,000 All right, everybody, We ready to go? 702 00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:00,250 -Let's go! -[Cheering] 703 00:32:00,333 --> 00:32:02,500 Let's get this going, come on! 704 00:32:02,542 --> 00:32:12,500 ♪ 705 00:32:14,667 --> 00:32:17,167 This is going to be the upstairs living room. 706 00:32:17,208 --> 00:32:19,458 ♪ 707 00:32:19,542 --> 00:32:21,000 We have upstairs kitchen. 708 00:32:21,083 --> 00:32:22,833 We have bedroom 1, 709 00:32:22,875 --> 00:32:24,833 and we're going to have a bedroom 2. 710 00:32:24,958 --> 00:32:27,000 I know my mom, and I know that her mind is not 711 00:32:27,042 --> 00:32:29,667 easily changed, so that will probably be like 712 00:32:29,708 --> 00:32:31,083 the biggest problem we run into, 713 00:32:31,208 --> 00:32:33,833 is trying to get her to let go of stuff. 714 00:32:33,917 --> 00:32:36,083 And then, not worry where it's going. 715 00:32:36,167 --> 00:32:44,917 ♪ 716 00:32:45,042 --> 00:32:47,333 [Julio] The back door is fully covered with stuff, 717 00:32:47,375 --> 00:32:50,500 so it's really an unusable entry point. 718 00:32:50,542 --> 00:32:52,833 -I know, it's hot in here. -I'm like melting. 719 00:32:52,875 --> 00:32:55,000 We're going to have to declutter that area 720 00:32:55,042 --> 00:32:57,458 just so that we have exit and entry points. 721 00:32:57,542 --> 00:33:00,167 ♪ 722 00:33:00,208 --> 00:33:03,042 All right! She's open! 723 00:33:03,125 --> 00:33:05,125 I need a ramp over here, please. 724 00:33:05,208 --> 00:33:07,208 ♪ 725 00:33:07,333 --> 00:33:10,333 Thank you! 726 00:33:10,417 --> 00:33:12,500 [Coral] Okay, so that- that was over there. 727 00:33:12,583 --> 00:33:14,542 All the baskets... 728 00:33:14,667 --> 00:33:16,000 -Right here? -Are right here. 729 00:33:16,125 --> 00:33:17,875 That was in the kitchen upstairs, 730 00:33:17,958 --> 00:33:19,208 not in that room. 731 00:33:19,292 --> 00:33:21,583 That lamp was in Mike's area, 732 00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:23,375 which is the other side of the blue line. 733 00:33:23,458 --> 00:33:25,333 [Natasha] She said that she literally wants to see 734 00:33:25,417 --> 00:33:27,250 everything that's in that house 735 00:33:27,250 --> 00:33:29,792 before she makes a decision. 736 00:33:29,875 --> 00:33:32,208 Given the volume of items in there, 737 00:33:32,292 --> 00:33:34,417 I just don't think that's possible. 738 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,708 ♪ 739 00:33:37,833 --> 00:33:39,833 This is my collection of spice racks. 740 00:33:39,917 --> 00:33:41,083 We've got to let go of some of this stuff. 741 00:33:41,167 --> 00:33:42,708 -The shelves? -Yeah. 742 00:33:42,833 --> 00:33:44,833 They're damaged, they're water damaged. 743 00:33:44,875 --> 00:33:46,292 Yep, those shelves can go. 744 00:33:46,375 --> 00:33:48,333 -Yeah. -This is chipboard. 745 00:33:48,375 --> 00:33:50,667 So, that one, I don't know. 746 00:33:50,708 --> 00:33:52,167 Like, I, I don't want to keep it. 747 00:33:52,208 --> 00:33:54,000 I just have never known what to do with it, 748 00:33:54,083 --> 00:33:55,875 so I've just left it against the wall. 749 00:33:55,958 --> 00:33:58,000 -Do want to say goodbye? -I... 750 00:33:58,042 --> 00:34:00,125 -You have. -Bye! [Laughing] 751 00:34:00,208 --> 00:34:02,167 Do you have a closet that this goes with? 752 00:34:02,250 --> 00:34:04,458 I was thinking about putting it between my kitchen and 753 00:34:04,542 --> 00:34:06,500 my living room at one point, but- 754 00:34:06,583 --> 00:34:08,833 or that front closet there, but it's too tall. 755 00:34:08,958 --> 00:34:11,583 -So, I guess we'll let it go. -Thank you. 756 00:34:11,667 --> 00:34:15,500 But that could be definitely recycled. 757 00:34:15,542 --> 00:34:17,000 Do we need it? 758 00:34:17,083 --> 00:34:19,125 It looks like it's from the 70s. 759 00:34:19,208 --> 00:34:21,583 [Laughing] Yeah. I'll let it go. 760 00:34:21,708 --> 00:34:22,917 That's a yes? 761 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,708 -Yes, let it go. -Thank you. 762 00:34:24,792 --> 00:34:34,750 ♪ 763 00:34:36,875 --> 00:34:38,625 I guess this is garbage? 764 00:34:38,708 --> 00:34:41,667 Right, so this is, this is what's been thrown out so far. 765 00:34:41,792 --> 00:34:45,292 That's supposed to be being recycled, the wood. 766 00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:47,583 And the baskets should be being recycled. 767 00:34:47,667 --> 00:34:50,708 Like, because even that, that did not need to be broken. 768 00:34:50,792 --> 00:34:52,000 -Which part? -See this? 769 00:34:52,083 --> 00:34:54,417 That, that air filter just because I was 770 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:57,167 getting rid of it and willing to get rid of it, 771 00:34:57,208 --> 00:34:59,833 doesn't mean that it needs to be thrown in the dumpster 772 00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:01,833 if it's perfectly acceptable. 773 00:35:01,917 --> 00:35:05,500 It looks possibly cracked. 774 00:35:05,583 --> 00:35:09,333 It's cracked now because somebody threw it there. 775 00:35:09,458 --> 00:35:12,000 My sense was that this was going to be one of 776 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,167 the areas that would be tough for you. 777 00:35:13,250 --> 00:35:14,583 I'm not, I'm not, 778 00:35:14,708 --> 00:35:16,125 I'm not willing to just throw things away. 779 00:35:16,208 --> 00:35:17,500 -Yeah. -Right? 780 00:35:17,625 --> 00:35:19,792 I mean, the whole point is that... 781 00:35:19,875 --> 00:35:22,333 we've moved into a world where everything is just, 782 00:35:22,417 --> 00:35:25,208 you know, buy it again, buy it again, buy it again. 783 00:35:25,292 --> 00:35:27,208 And it's one thing if something is broken, 784 00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:30,500 and beyond repair or beyond use, you know, 785 00:35:30,583 --> 00:35:33,000 things that could be being sold at the Goodwill 786 00:35:33,125 --> 00:35:34,208 don't need to end up in the dumpster. 787 00:35:34,292 --> 00:35:36,292 Sure. Just so you know, 788 00:35:36,375 --> 00:35:38,500 the dumpster doesn't actually go to a dump. 789 00:35:38,583 --> 00:35:40,625 It goes to a sorting station first. 790 00:35:40,708 --> 00:35:42,750 Okay. 791 00:35:42,833 --> 00:35:45,250 If you can see this as, really, 792 00:35:45,375 --> 00:35:47,500 a way for you to actually... 793 00:35:47,542 --> 00:35:52,042 move to a more sustainable way of life, by having less, 794 00:35:52,042 --> 00:35:54,333 by owning less, I think you're serving 795 00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:57,750 your value system much better. 796 00:35:57,833 --> 00:36:00,125 We have to do what feels uncomfortable sometimes 797 00:36:00,208 --> 00:36:02,833 to make really big change. 798 00:36:02,958 --> 00:36:04,875 -Okay. -Okay? 799 00:36:04,958 --> 00:36:06,208 Want to get back to it? 800 00:36:06,333 --> 00:36:07,875 Absolutely, there's a lot of stuff here and 801 00:36:07,958 --> 00:36:09,708 it's scaring me. -Okay, let's go. 802 00:36:09,792 --> 00:36:19,750 ♪ 803 00:36:23,208 --> 00:36:25,458 -This couch is still intact. -Yeah. 804 00:36:25,583 --> 00:36:27,833 This couch is not at all... 805 00:36:27,917 --> 00:36:29,250 and there's no stuffing in it, 806 00:36:29,375 --> 00:36:32,333 and it's literally falling apart. Can we take this- 807 00:36:32,417 --> 00:36:34,250 What do you mean there's no stuffing in it? 808 00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:38,500 There's no stuffing in it. The mice have been in here. 809 00:36:38,542 --> 00:36:42,375 It's starting to break down. I'm just thinking that- 810 00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:44,458 This is my foldout couch, but you see holes in it 811 00:36:44,542 --> 00:36:45,917 that the mice were in, or not? 812 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,167 Well, you can see where they've been 813 00:36:47,208 --> 00:36:48,583 tearing at things. 814 00:36:48,708 --> 00:36:51,333 Can we see about the cushions that are inside of it? 815 00:36:51,417 --> 00:36:53,000 All the baskets, what do you- Do you want to start- 816 00:36:53,042 --> 00:36:54,917 Well, the baskets are, I mean, 817 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,458 the baskets are a collection. 818 00:36:56,542 --> 00:36:58,167 There's very few of them that are kind of 819 00:36:58,208 --> 00:37:00,375 crap baskets that I won't want to keep. 820 00:37:00,458 --> 00:37:02,083 Bark. 821 00:37:02,167 --> 00:37:03,958 I don't know if we got to that, so... 822 00:37:04,042 --> 00:37:07,375 I'm just trying to keep it safe because it's bark, right? 823 00:37:07,458 --> 00:37:09,000 Ah... 824 00:37:09,042 --> 00:37:11,167 ♪ 825 00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:12,500 This is her craft area, but like, 826 00:37:12,583 --> 00:37:15,042 does she need an old drop cloth that is filthy? 827 00:37:15,167 --> 00:37:16,250 That is stained and covered? 828 00:37:16,333 --> 00:37:18,000 No, get rid of it. 829 00:37:18,125 --> 00:37:26,792 ♪ 830 00:37:26,875 --> 00:37:28,958 I feel useless right now, like I should just sit 831 00:37:29,042 --> 00:37:32,000 in the corner and collect myself. 832 00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:35,000 This is the challenge, right, we're dealing with somebody- 833 00:37:35,042 --> 00:37:38,208 Who can't do it easily or quickly. 834 00:37:38,292 --> 00:37:39,708 No, I know. 835 00:37:39,875 --> 00:37:42,333 I've been the one here doing as much as I can, 836 00:37:42,375 --> 00:37:45,000 but my process and hers are very different, so... 837 00:37:45,042 --> 00:37:47,083 Yeah, none of this is comfortable. 838 00:37:47,167 --> 00:37:48,833 Okay, it's not meant to be. 839 00:37:48,875 --> 00:37:51,500 No, it's not for anybody. Some of us change- 840 00:37:51,583 --> 00:37:52,750 have to change different things, 841 00:37:52,833 --> 00:37:54,500 this is not where our problems are. 842 00:37:54,542 --> 00:37:56,875 -Yeah, okay. -I get that. 843 00:37:56,958 --> 00:38:00,333 I'm just going to go sit in the shade for a minute then. 844 00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:02,542 Yeah, and that's supposed to be on that side, too. 845 00:38:02,625 --> 00:38:04,667 That's that side of the room. 846 00:38:04,708 --> 00:38:05,958 So, things are getting moved to the 847 00:38:06,042 --> 00:38:07,667 wrong side of the room now. 848 00:38:07,792 --> 00:38:10,833 The air mattress. 849 00:38:10,917 --> 00:38:12,167 What about the air mattress? 850 00:38:12,292 --> 00:38:14,833 -We don't need to keep it? -What air mattress? 851 00:38:14,875 --> 00:38:17,417 This one. The one- I think it's the one 852 00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:20,500 from when we went camping with the kids. 853 00:38:20,542 --> 00:38:21,833 Right? 854 00:38:21,875 --> 00:38:23,375 Tanya, do you want the air mattress? 855 00:38:23,458 --> 00:38:25,458 I don't need an air mattress, no. 856 00:38:25,542 --> 00:38:28,125 We're not moving fast enough through this. 857 00:38:28,208 --> 00:38:30,167 She's not sorting fast enough. 858 00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:33,000 She's losing her train of thought and 859 00:38:33,042 --> 00:38:34,750 communicating with too many people, 860 00:38:34,833 --> 00:38:37,583 instead of focusing on what needs to be done here. 861 00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:39,083 Um... 862 00:38:39,208 --> 00:38:41,583 ♪ 863 00:38:41,667 --> 00:38:42,917 I don't know where to start. 864 00:38:43,042 --> 00:38:45,792 [Thunder] 865 00:38:45,875 --> 00:38:46,667 Sorry? 866 00:38:46,750 --> 00:38:47,958 We're getting really backed up. 867 00:38:48,042 --> 00:38:49,917 -I know. -It's about to rain. 868 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,542 ...bit of a chat over there. I'm having a bit of difficulty. 869 00:38:52,625 --> 00:38:54,875 I really believe that... 870 00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:57,500 things shouldn't be going into the garbage. 871 00:38:57,542 --> 00:39:02,167 Ah, or recycling, if they can be re-gifted. 872 00:39:02,208 --> 00:39:04,417 But there doesn't seem to be a place that 873 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:07,167 I can let that stuff go. 874 00:39:07,208 --> 00:39:09,125 All right, I can take care of that. 875 00:39:09,125 --> 00:39:12,000 But my biggest issue is the storm that's moving in, 876 00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:15,167 so we need to sort this a little bit faster if we can. 877 00:39:15,250 --> 00:39:17,917 And I'm ready to tarp all of this up, 878 00:39:18,042 --> 00:39:19,250 but once that happens, 879 00:39:19,375 --> 00:39:20,167 we're going to lose the rest of the day. 880 00:39:20,292 --> 00:39:23,042 A lot of time. Okay... 881 00:39:23,125 --> 00:39:24,792 Okay. 882 00:39:24,875 --> 00:39:27,583 [Thunder] 883 00:39:27,667 --> 00:39:29,042 Are you keeping this? 884 00:39:29,167 --> 00:39:31,958 Yeah, those two are keeps, I think, at this point. 885 00:39:32,042 --> 00:39:34,667 I need to look at how many I have after that. 886 00:39:34,667 --> 00:39:36,458 This one, this one has nothing in it, which is why- 887 00:39:36,542 --> 00:39:38,542 Which one? Oh, well, 888 00:39:38,542 --> 00:39:41,833 then that might be on the stereo still. 889 00:39:41,917 --> 00:39:43,292 Yeah. 890 00:39:43,375 --> 00:39:45,500 ♪ 891 00:39:45,542 --> 00:39:49,500 Yeah, you don't need it anymore. 892 00:39:49,542 --> 00:39:51,375 If you've only found one or two things, 893 00:39:51,458 --> 00:39:55,000 then you can trust that I've done a fairly decent job. 894 00:39:55,083 --> 00:39:59,292 Yeah, some of those I would- okay, so where is....? 895 00:39:59,375 --> 00:40:02,167 Um... 896 00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:05,167 Do we have a place for our Goodwills? 897 00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:08,792 [Thunder] 898 00:40:08,875 --> 00:40:10,917 There's a huge storm moving in. 899 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,833 I need books covered over here ASAP. 900 00:40:14,875 --> 00:40:18,875 Bring that down, and let's get moving covering stuff. 901 00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:22,500 ♪ [Suspenseful] 902 00:40:22,583 --> 00:40:24,042 It's the end of the first day, 903 00:40:24,125 --> 00:40:28,458 and we've done maybe a room and a half out of six. 904 00:40:28,542 --> 00:40:30,708 She really hasn't thrown anything out. 905 00:40:30,833 --> 00:40:33,167 Tomorrow, we need to pick up the pace 906 00:40:33,208 --> 00:40:34,750 or this is going nowhere. 907 00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:36,167 [Thunder] 908 00:40:40,292 --> 00:40:50,250 ♪ 909 00:40:51,333 --> 00:40:52,750 It's day two. 910 00:40:52,875 --> 00:40:55,417 I'm really praying that the weather turns in our favor, 911 00:40:55,542 --> 00:40:57,458 because we still have... 912 00:40:57,542 --> 00:41:00,583 five to six rooms to go, and up until now, 913 00:41:00,708 --> 00:41:03,000 we've only done one and a half. 914 00:41:03,042 --> 00:41:05,833 Coral's system, it's going way too slow. 915 00:41:05,875 --> 00:41:14,667 ♪ 916 00:41:14,708 --> 00:41:16,833 That's what they're for, yeah. 917 00:41:16,917 --> 00:41:19,333 -So, these are keep? -This is a keep. 918 00:41:19,375 --> 00:41:22,167 ♪ 919 00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:23,625 Are those just duotangs and stuff? 920 00:41:23,708 --> 00:41:26,667 Yeah, there are two folders maybe, but... 921 00:41:26,708 --> 00:41:29,417 Because we'll still.... 922 00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:31,000 Are those donation or garbage? 923 00:41:31,083 --> 00:41:32,167 -They're not- -Don't- 924 00:41:32,250 --> 00:41:33,708 They just need to be wiped off. 925 00:41:33,792 --> 00:41:35,125 They're really rusty, Mom. 926 00:41:35,208 --> 00:41:37,625 You really don't think that they can be donated? 927 00:41:37,708 --> 00:41:40,500 No, they're, it's like super rusty, like... 928 00:41:40,583 --> 00:41:42,500 That one's rusty, is the other one rusty? 929 00:41:42,583 --> 00:41:44,375 -It doesn't look rusty. -It's moldy on the back. 930 00:41:44,458 --> 00:41:46,750 Yes, but that can be wiped off with... 931 00:41:46,875 --> 00:41:48,667 -They're not, no, not really. -No? 932 00:41:48,792 --> 00:41:50,167 Why can't it be wiped off? 933 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:52,833 No one's going to use it, no one's going to buy it. 934 00:41:52,917 --> 00:41:55,208 Toss the top one and donate the other one. 935 00:41:55,208 --> 00:41:57,875 ♪ 936 00:41:57,958 --> 00:42:00,375 Garbage. This isn't- Let me see it. 937 00:42:00,458 --> 00:42:02,333 Scrapbooking. No, it's scrapbooking. 938 00:42:02,417 --> 00:42:03,417 Let me see it, it's literally not. 939 00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:06,917 Yes, it is. It is... 940 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,208 stuff, there's stories and stuff that 941 00:42:09,292 --> 00:42:10,500 you guys wrote in here. 942 00:42:10,542 --> 00:42:12,708 There's no, there's literally nothing. 943 00:42:12,792 --> 00:42:16,708 -It's like a schoolbook. -Look. 944 00:42:16,708 --> 00:42:19,583 In learning, in learning to write and draw, so... 945 00:42:19,667 --> 00:42:21,000 put them in with this. 946 00:42:21,167 --> 00:42:22,833 All of them? 947 00:42:22,875 --> 00:42:24,792 Yeah, well, there's four of us, right. 948 00:42:24,875 --> 00:42:26,667 But we're not going to do any of this. 949 00:42:26,708 --> 00:42:28,708 If we do a project together and there's four of us, 950 00:42:28,833 --> 00:42:30,833 then we would want four of them, right? 951 00:42:30,958 --> 00:42:32,000 Why not? 952 00:42:32,042 --> 00:42:34,167 Because I'm, we're never going to do that. 953 00:42:34,208 --> 00:42:35,542 Donate, yeah. 954 00:42:35,625 --> 00:42:36,542 She has a different idea of 955 00:42:36,667 --> 00:42:38,750 what is garbage and what isn't. 956 00:42:38,833 --> 00:42:41,000 If my mom needs to donate something, 957 00:42:41,083 --> 00:42:43,000 instead of fighting, you know, with her and saying, 958 00:42:43,125 --> 00:42:44,625 "Put it in the garbage, put it in the garbage," 959 00:42:44,708 --> 00:42:46,958 we should just let her put it in the donate pile and 960 00:42:47,042 --> 00:42:49,833 have it taken off the property. 961 00:42:49,917 --> 00:42:52,708 As long as she feels like she's done her part- 962 00:42:52,833 --> 00:42:54,667 that's what she needs in order to get this thing 963 00:42:54,750 --> 00:42:57,042 moving and this, you know, finish up this process. 964 00:42:57,125 --> 00:43:07,083 ♪ 965 00:43:08,375 --> 00:43:10,208 So, this is the kitchen. 966 00:43:10,292 --> 00:43:13,125 In here is where the most 967 00:43:13,208 --> 00:43:15,667 rodent activity has been. 968 00:43:15,792 --> 00:43:17,000 My name is James Karr. 969 00:43:17,125 --> 00:43:18,500 I'm the field operations manager at 970 00:43:18,583 --> 00:43:20,292 Truly Nolen Pest Control. 971 00:43:20,375 --> 00:43:22,375 So, there's clear evidence of rat activity down here. 972 00:43:22,458 --> 00:43:23,500 We can see fecal matter 973 00:43:23,583 --> 00:43:24,917 sitting on the bottom over here. 974 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,542 If you look up top, you can see there's- 975 00:43:26,667 --> 00:43:27,833 they've chewed the corner. 976 00:43:27,958 --> 00:43:29,167 Yeah. 977 00:43:29,250 --> 00:43:30,458 You can see right there where they've chewed the wood. 978 00:43:30,542 --> 00:43:31,583 Oh, yeah, I can. 979 00:43:31,667 --> 00:43:32,875 -Behind the gas line. -Yes. 980 00:43:32,958 --> 00:43:35,875 [Jade] I think that it is actually quite... 981 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,500 astonishing that none of us... 982 00:43:39,542 --> 00:43:42,583 have been like severely ill from it. 983 00:43:42,667 --> 00:43:45,667 You know, because that is a lot of... 984 00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:49,333 bio-hazardous waste to be breathing in all the time, 985 00:43:49,375 --> 00:43:50,958 you know, that's a lot. 986 00:43:51,042 --> 00:43:52,583 The rats would run through here every night, 987 00:43:52,667 --> 00:43:53,708 all night long. 988 00:43:53,792 --> 00:43:54,958 And this is definitely the reason why 989 00:43:55,042 --> 00:43:57,792 I don't live here anymore. 990 00:43:57,875 --> 00:43:58,833 Yeah, well, they've set up their own 991 00:43:58,917 --> 00:44:00,333 ecosystem in here, right? 992 00:44:00,458 --> 00:44:02,333 They don't need to go outside for things anymore because 993 00:44:02,417 --> 00:44:04,292 they've got everything they need stored in here. 994 00:44:04,375 --> 00:44:05,375 They've got shelter, 995 00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:07,000 they've got water, they've got food. 996 00:44:07,083 --> 00:44:10,750 So, that's the challenge when there's this much clutter. 997 00:44:10,833 --> 00:44:13,667 Once you seal in those entry points, 998 00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:14,875 now we've got two battlegrounds- 999 00:44:14,958 --> 00:44:16,708 one inside, one outside. 1000 00:44:16,792 --> 00:44:19,042 The outside battleground, we put out some bait boxes, 1001 00:44:19,125 --> 00:44:20,750 the rodents will come along, eat the bait, 1002 00:44:20,875 --> 00:44:22,208 it'll take care of them. 1003 00:44:22,292 --> 00:44:25,083 Getting those sealed up is going to be paramount. 1004 00:44:25,167 --> 00:44:29,167 I'm optimistic that, soon, the house will no longer be 1005 00:44:29,208 --> 00:44:32,792 terrorized by rats who hold evil in their hearts. 1006 00:44:32,875 --> 00:44:42,833 ♪ 1007 00:44:45,375 --> 00:44:47,042 Even though the jars are dusty, 1008 00:44:47,042 --> 00:44:48,500 a lot of these were wild-crafted, 1009 00:44:48,625 --> 00:44:49,958 which means that I... 1010 00:44:50,042 --> 00:44:52,583 went out into the fields and harvested them myself, 1011 00:44:52,667 --> 00:44:54,125 or grew them myself. 1012 00:44:54,208 --> 00:44:56,708 What's your plan for this, given that some of it is old? 1013 00:44:56,792 --> 00:44:59,250 Well, I'd thought I could maybe go through it quickly. 1014 00:44:59,375 --> 00:45:01,333 I don't want to spend a lot of time on it because I know 1015 00:45:01,417 --> 00:45:05,542 there's not a lot of things that I would get rid of. 1016 00:45:05,625 --> 00:45:07,542 Keeper. 1017 00:45:07,625 --> 00:45:10,250 [Indistinct speaking] Keep. 1018 00:45:10,333 --> 00:45:13,333 ♪ 1019 00:45:13,417 --> 00:45:15,208 I notice you've got, like, there's definitely things 1020 00:45:15,333 --> 00:45:17,833 you're going to, and you know- you're honing in on 1021 00:45:17,917 --> 00:45:20,208 what is a definite keeper for you. 1022 00:45:20,292 --> 00:45:22,583 I'm wondering if you can do the opposite now, 1023 00:45:22,708 --> 00:45:25,042 if we could switch hands for a moment, 1024 00:45:25,125 --> 00:45:26,958 and you can do the same thing, 1025 00:45:27,042 --> 00:45:29,750 but choose what you know you don't want to keep, 1026 00:45:29,875 --> 00:45:31,667 what you know is either expired, 1027 00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:33,625 you don't want to use anymore, 1028 00:45:33,708 --> 00:45:35,333 and just tell me a little bit about 1029 00:45:35,375 --> 00:45:37,375 how you're deciding this as well, if you could. 1030 00:45:37,458 --> 00:45:39,458 ♪ 1031 00:45:39,542 --> 00:45:43,250 This was being used for... 1032 00:45:43,333 --> 00:45:45,292 one kind of formula that I haven't been making. 1033 00:45:45,375 --> 00:45:47,333 Right, so it's old and it's not being used. 1034 00:45:47,375 --> 00:45:49,417 It's old and it's not rare. 1035 00:45:49,542 --> 00:45:51,292 I can grow some more. 1036 00:45:51,375 --> 00:45:54,000 ♪ 1037 00:45:54,042 --> 00:45:56,458 So, Coral, what you're actually showing me is that, 1038 00:45:56,542 --> 00:46:00,750 not only are you able to specifically curate the things 1039 00:46:00,833 --> 00:46:03,208 that are worth saving, you've shown that 1040 00:46:03,292 --> 00:46:07,833 you're able to let go of things you know you can 1041 00:46:07,917 --> 00:46:11,167 replace or source down the road, if you ever 1042 00:46:11,250 --> 00:46:14,458 find yourself in a situation that you need it. 1043 00:46:14,542 --> 00:46:16,167 You have the capacity to do it. 1044 00:46:16,250 --> 00:46:18,667 I hope that you can apply it to... 1045 00:46:18,750 --> 00:46:20,833 all the other categories of stuff 1046 00:46:20,917 --> 00:46:22,917 as we go through the next few days. 1047 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:32,958 ♪ 1048 00:46:37,958 --> 00:46:47,917 ♪ 1049 00:46:54,292 --> 00:46:56,042 Okay. 1050 00:46:56,125 --> 00:46:57,750 Let's deal with this box right now, Coral. 1051 00:46:57,833 --> 00:46:59,958 This is... scrapbooking. 1052 00:47:00,042 --> 00:47:01,875 It is scrapbooking, but... 1053 00:47:01,958 --> 00:47:03,708 it is dusty, it is dirty. 1054 00:47:03,833 --> 00:47:07,542 Go through it, and, and, and see if there's even 1055 00:47:07,625 --> 00:47:10,625 five things in there you want to keep, just because it- 1056 00:47:10,708 --> 00:47:12,333 See, no, that's the point. 1057 00:47:12,417 --> 00:47:15,875 Yes, this is an actual box of things 1058 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,833 I saved like that way. 1059 00:47:17,917 --> 00:47:20,792 Would you like to spend five minutes going through it? 1060 00:47:20,917 --> 00:47:23,083 We are going to have an abundance of 1061 00:47:23,167 --> 00:47:25,167 other boxes just like this one. 1062 00:47:25,208 --> 00:47:28,042 ♪ 1063 00:47:28,167 --> 00:47:30,000 I can probably have the girls do a box like this, 1064 00:47:30,083 --> 00:47:31,167 like I could probably empty this box- 1065 00:47:31,250 --> 00:47:32,792 No, they will not do... 1066 00:47:32,875 --> 00:47:37,583 they, they are invested in tossing those things out. 1067 00:47:37,708 --> 00:47:39,333 My sister's pace is slow. 1068 00:47:39,417 --> 00:47:43,458 This is the fastest she is going to go. 1069 00:47:43,542 --> 00:47:45,125 Everything's covered in... 1070 00:47:45,208 --> 00:47:48,375 mouse poop and some mold or mildew, 1071 00:47:48,458 --> 00:47:49,750 and she can't let it go. 1072 00:47:49,833 --> 00:47:52,333 And that is a challenge, because there's still 1073 00:47:52,417 --> 00:47:55,250 more things to come out of the house. 1074 00:47:55,375 --> 00:47:58,750 [Thia] There's a group of us, we are doing hard work. 1075 00:47:58,833 --> 00:48:01,333 I think it's a shame and mind boggling, 1076 00:48:01,417 --> 00:48:03,333 with all the help that you have right now, 1077 00:48:03,375 --> 00:48:06,125 that she's not taking full advantage of 1078 00:48:06,208 --> 00:48:08,417 what she has in front of her. 1079 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:12,417 I need to confront you about something. 1080 00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:15,667 Did you tell someone to put that in the "keep"? 1081 00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:17,083 No. 1082 00:48:17,208 --> 00:48:19,042 We've all been very good about letting you choose. 1083 00:48:19,042 --> 00:48:22,000 I am saying pick three things out of that box that 1084 00:48:22,042 --> 00:48:23,958 you need to keep, only. 1085 00:48:24,042 --> 00:48:25,458 You can pick one, you pick none, 1086 00:48:25,542 --> 00:48:28,167 but if there- I'm not letting you grab more than 1087 00:48:28,250 --> 00:48:29,792 three things that you need out of that box. 1088 00:48:29,875 --> 00:48:31,792 So this is a Vaughn piece of pottery. 1089 00:48:31,875 --> 00:48:32,958 Uh-huh, you don't need the rocks in it, 1090 00:48:33,042 --> 00:48:35,167 get rid of them. You don't need them. 1091 00:48:35,208 --> 00:48:36,833 We go to the beach all the time. 1092 00:48:36,875 --> 00:48:39,500 You can get more rocks. You do not need this. 1093 00:48:39,542 --> 00:48:40,958 You do not need this. 1094 00:48:41,083 --> 00:48:43,042 Okay, I threw away all the other little square boxes. 1095 00:48:43,125 --> 00:48:45,458 -No, you haven't! -The wooden ones, like this? 1096 00:48:45,542 --> 00:48:49,333 You have not thrown out all the boxes like that. 1097 00:48:49,375 --> 00:48:52,917 This is one tiny, little box, and we have... 1098 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,250 -1, 2, 3, 4, 5... -Yeah, many, many, many. 1099 00:48:55,375 --> 00:48:58,375 ...6 tents full of stuff that needs to be gone through. 1100 00:48:58,458 --> 00:49:00,500 Okay. 1101 00:49:00,542 --> 00:49:04,500 If she can't get rid of a box of sticks and stones and 1102 00:49:04,542 --> 00:49:08,417 pinecones, there is no point in going any further. 1103 00:49:08,542 --> 00:49:09,292 ♪ 1104 00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:19,000 ♪ 1105 00:49:19,042 --> 00:49:23,333 I suffer from enjoying doing too many things. 1106 00:49:23,417 --> 00:49:25,792 Is anyone doing any actual living in here? 1107 00:49:25,875 --> 00:49:27,833 Not recently. 1108 00:49:27,875 --> 00:49:29,667 The reason I moved out a year ago is because 1109 00:49:29,708 --> 00:49:31,708 I couldn't take the rats anymore. 1110 00:49:31,833 --> 00:49:33,583 ♪ 1111 00:49:33,667 --> 00:49:35,000 There's so much stuff up there, 1112 00:49:35,083 --> 00:49:36,958 that I'm concerned for my team. 1113 00:49:37,042 --> 00:49:38,792 This is an emergency, 1114 00:49:38,875 --> 00:49:40,250 and we need to treat it as such. 1115 00:49:40,333 --> 00:49:42,458 There's a huge storm moving in! 1116 00:49:42,583 --> 00:49:45,333 There's a lot of stuff that still needs to be sorted, 1117 00:49:45,417 --> 00:49:47,708 there's a ton of stuff still in the house. 1118 00:49:47,833 --> 00:49:49,083 We need to focus on things that 1119 00:49:49,208 --> 00:49:50,500 we can let go of right now. 1120 00:49:50,542 --> 00:49:53,167 I'm not willing to just throw things away. 1121 00:49:53,250 --> 00:49:58,125 This is one tiny little box, and we have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5- 1122 00:49:58,250 --> 00:50:01,000 -Yeah, many, many, many. -6 tents full of stuff! 1123 00:50:01,125 --> 00:50:03,708 My sense is that on some mental level, 1124 00:50:03,792 --> 00:50:05,708 she could be stalling the process. 1125 00:50:05,792 --> 00:50:09,375 ♪ 1126 00:50:11,708 --> 00:50:18,250 ♪ 1127 00:50:18,333 --> 00:50:20,125 If you see anything you're willing to donate... 1128 00:50:20,208 --> 00:50:22,125 -Yeah. -Right here. 1129 00:50:22,208 --> 00:50:24,000 Try not to spend too much time. 1130 00:50:24,083 --> 00:50:25,708 You've got to- instead of looking for, 1131 00:50:25,792 --> 00:50:27,083 "What is this, what is this?" 1132 00:50:27,083 --> 00:50:28,250 Go, "Is there anything in here I need to keep?" 1133 00:50:28,375 --> 00:50:30,583 So, this can go to the composter, Mike, 1134 00:50:30,708 --> 00:50:31,917 because they've been throwing- 1135 00:50:32,042 --> 00:50:34,167 I've been telling them to throw the... 1136 00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:36,708 pinecones to the composter rather than- 1137 00:50:36,833 --> 00:50:38,000 Where's the composter? 1138 00:50:38,083 --> 00:50:39,500 I don't know where the composter stuff is- 1139 00:50:39,583 --> 00:50:42,292 Doesn't matter, they can go- put 'em wherever they want. 1140 00:50:42,375 --> 00:50:44,333 Well, they- not in the dumpster. 1141 00:50:44,417 --> 00:50:45,500 I don't care. 1142 00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:47,500 What, you don't care if we save our pinecones? 1143 00:50:47,542 --> 00:50:50,417 We've got a bushel basket of them over by the fire. 1144 00:50:50,417 --> 00:50:54,583 It took me quite a few years to understand her process. 1145 00:50:54,667 --> 00:50:56,458 [Coral]...in the compost, and I don't want... 1146 00:50:56,542 --> 00:51:01,000 [Mike] ...And her inability to do it any other way. 1147 00:51:01,083 --> 00:51:04,417 And her process works for her quite well. 1148 00:51:04,542 --> 00:51:06,292 Doesn't work for me. 1149 00:51:06,375 --> 00:51:14,792 ♪ 1150 00:51:14,875 --> 00:51:17,833 My sense is you're not being completely honest about 1151 00:51:17,917 --> 00:51:20,750 how you feel about all this stuff. 1152 00:51:20,833 --> 00:51:23,125 If Coral died tomorrow, 1153 00:51:23,208 --> 00:51:25,958 there would be a dumpster under the window... 1154 00:51:26,042 --> 00:51:28,333 in the driveway, and stuff would just go out. 1155 00:51:28,417 --> 00:51:31,250 Do you see that you have a role... 1156 00:51:31,375 --> 00:51:33,333 in everything that's happening, 1157 00:51:33,375 --> 00:51:36,375 and how this home looks after all this? 1158 00:51:36,375 --> 00:51:39,000 I can advise, and I can wheedle, 1159 00:51:39,083 --> 00:51:41,875 and I can plead. 1160 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,750 But if she's adamant about it, 1161 00:51:43,833 --> 00:51:45,958 she gets her say. 1162 00:51:46,042 --> 00:51:48,000 ♪ 1163 00:51:48,125 --> 00:51:50,167 I don't really care. 1164 00:51:50,250 --> 00:51:51,958 -But you care about her. -I care about her. 1165 00:51:52,042 --> 00:51:54,125 I know you do. 1166 00:51:54,208 --> 00:51:57,250 You don't have a lot of time left in this process, 1167 00:51:57,333 --> 00:52:01,708 and I'd really like for you to join your family... 1168 00:52:01,708 --> 00:52:05,125 and become a part of this, just to experience 1169 00:52:05,250 --> 00:52:10,917 what they're doing, while we still have time. 1170 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,458 If nothing else, to be part of this experience so that 1171 00:52:13,458 --> 00:52:17,583 Coral can see you are a part of this. 1172 00:52:17,667 --> 00:52:19,375 ♪ 1173 00:52:19,458 --> 00:52:22,000 If my presence is not being helpful, 1174 00:52:22,042 --> 00:52:24,250 I will not stay. 1175 00:52:24,375 --> 00:52:27,792 -Okay. -Good? 1176 00:52:27,875 --> 00:52:29,042 -Shall we? -Sure! 1177 00:52:29,042 --> 00:52:30,708 Okay. 1178 00:52:30,833 --> 00:52:33,083 I'm constantly accused of standing around with 1179 00:52:33,208 --> 00:52:34,833 my hands in my pockets. 1180 00:52:34,875 --> 00:52:37,500 But, it's when she 1181 00:52:37,583 --> 00:52:39,583 determines that something needs to be done, 1182 00:52:39,667 --> 00:52:42,000 she has to examine it from so many sides, 1183 00:52:42,083 --> 00:52:45,000 that I can't just jump in and do it. 1184 00:52:45,042 --> 00:52:48,667 So, I disengage from the process. 1185 00:52:48,667 --> 00:52:50,250 Alright... 1186 00:52:50,375 --> 00:52:53,875 ♪ 1187 00:52:53,958 --> 00:52:56,250 Okay. 1188 00:52:56,375 --> 00:52:58,250 Why are you keeping it? 1189 00:52:58,333 --> 00:53:00,083 I'm getting rid of most of it, Mike. 1190 00:53:00,167 --> 00:53:02,458 No, but why are you keeping any of it? 1191 00:53:02,542 --> 00:53:04,250 Ouch. 1192 00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:09,000 -Well, I've been saving stuff... -Why? 1193 00:53:09,042 --> 00:53:11,333 ...for a specific scrapbook that I want... 1194 00:53:11,417 --> 00:53:15,042 Ouch. [Muttering] Of... okay. 1195 00:53:15,042 --> 00:53:16,583 You know, we didn't take pictures. 1196 00:53:16,667 --> 00:53:20,333 So, I didn't take pictures and I... 1197 00:53:20,375 --> 00:53:25,250 decided instead to keep samples. 1198 00:53:25,333 --> 00:53:26,917 A lot of empty pages. 1199 00:53:27,042 --> 00:53:30,500 Yeah, it doesn't matter if it's empty pages, it's just... 1200 00:53:30,542 --> 00:53:32,792 -But I mean, the only... -What? 1201 00:53:32,875 --> 00:53:37,167 ...purpose for keeping any of this crap, that I can see, is- 1202 00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:38,958 To torture them with it later? 1203 00:53:39,042 --> 00:53:42,333 Yeah, to show their kids when they have them, but I mean, 1204 00:53:42,375 --> 00:53:45,083 I'm gonna be dead, so I don't care. 1205 00:53:45,167 --> 00:53:46,500 She keeps talking about scrapbooking, 1206 00:53:46,583 --> 00:53:49,708 but I don't see that ever happening. 1207 00:53:49,833 --> 00:53:52,083 She wants to keep some of the stuff, so she keeps it, 1208 00:53:52,167 --> 00:53:56,833 which kind drives me crazy, but that's just the way it is. 1209 00:53:56,875 --> 00:53:59,125 -I think I'd like to- -Do you surrender, Mike? 1210 00:53:59,208 --> 00:54:00,792 -I surrender. -You surrender, Mike. 1211 00:54:00,792 --> 00:54:02,583 [Mike] I'm giving up. [Coral] Donate... 1212 00:54:04,542 --> 00:54:08,333 ♪ 1213 00:54:08,417 --> 00:54:09,750 [Julio] It's almost the end of the day. 1214 00:54:09,833 --> 00:54:12,667 Even with the full team going full speed, 1215 00:54:12,708 --> 00:54:15,708 we're still smashing into that 'Coral wall'. 1216 00:54:15,833 --> 00:54:17,292 -So, upstairs... -Yeah. 1217 00:54:17,375 --> 00:54:20,375 It's time now to clear the girls' rooms. 1218 00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:22,500 We're coming to a point where 1219 00:54:22,542 --> 00:54:25,667 we need to allow Jade and Mara to start 1220 00:54:25,708 --> 00:54:27,542 making some decisions for themselves here. 1221 00:54:27,667 --> 00:54:29,208 You know, those are their rooms. 1222 00:54:29,292 --> 00:54:31,292 Do you feel like you can trust them 1223 00:54:31,375 --> 00:54:33,000 to do that for you? 1224 00:54:33,125 --> 00:54:34,958 ♪ 1225 00:54:35,042 --> 00:54:37,375 Most of it. I, I... 1226 00:54:37,458 --> 00:54:39,750 In Mara's room, there's some of my clothes, 1227 00:54:39,833 --> 00:54:41,667 but that will be coming down with clothes, right? 1228 00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:43,875 Or some of their old clothes from when they were kids. 1229 00:54:43,958 --> 00:54:46,167 Do you see the value in allowing them to help you out? 1230 00:54:46,292 --> 00:54:48,167 I absolutely see the value in that. 1231 00:54:48,208 --> 00:54:49,833 I, I... 1232 00:54:49,917 --> 00:54:51,833 I feel the pressure of the time that's going. 1233 00:54:51,875 --> 00:54:53,375 Okay, because I really want to make sure that 1234 00:54:53,458 --> 00:54:55,417 we get this cleared out for you. 1235 00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:58,292 And right now, we're under a lot of pressure. 1236 00:54:58,375 --> 00:55:00,625 -Yeah. -So I appreciate that. 1237 00:55:00,708 --> 00:55:02,917 Thank you. 1238 00:55:03,042 --> 00:55:13,000 ♪ 1239 00:55:13,958 --> 00:55:16,333 Please bag things... 1240 00:55:16,375 --> 00:55:18,167 that you want to get rid of. -Yeah. 1241 00:55:18,208 --> 00:55:19,708 They'll bring it down for you. 1242 00:55:19,833 --> 00:55:21,625 Hand it over to them, and they'll... 1243 00:55:21,708 --> 00:55:24,125 place it downstairs in the keep, throw, 1244 00:55:24,208 --> 00:55:25,208 or donate piles for you. 1245 00:55:25,292 --> 00:55:27,083 -Okay. -Okay? 1246 00:55:27,208 --> 00:55:36,333 ♪ 1247 00:55:36,417 --> 00:55:38,708 -This? -I keep. 1248 00:55:38,792 --> 00:55:41,167 Okay, what about this, then? 1249 00:55:41,250 --> 00:55:43,458 Yeah, this is... 1250 00:55:43,542 --> 00:55:45,292 Yeah, I'm just... 1251 00:55:45,375 --> 00:55:47,333 trying to... 1252 00:55:47,375 --> 00:55:51,000 recognize it. 1253 00:55:51,083 --> 00:55:53,250 I think I want to keep it. 1254 00:55:53,333 --> 00:55:57,500 This one, I was keeping for the apothecary area. 1255 00:55:57,542 --> 00:55:59,292 You want to keep a lot of stuff... 1256 00:55:59,375 --> 00:56:01,417 and that space is only so big. 1257 00:56:01,542 --> 00:56:03,167 And you still have an entire downstairs to 1258 00:56:03,208 --> 00:56:05,500 deal with as well. 1259 00:56:05,542 --> 00:56:10,000 Because we still have all of this, all of that tent, 1260 00:56:10,083 --> 00:56:11,667 and a kitchen tent over there, 1261 00:56:11,708 --> 00:56:12,875 and that's not even dealing with the 1262 00:56:12,958 --> 00:56:14,750 laundry and the clothes. 1263 00:56:14,875 --> 00:56:17,375 And, you can take it for what it is, 1264 00:56:17,458 --> 00:56:20,667 but there's no way in God's green earth that, 1265 00:56:20,708 --> 00:56:22,750 as much as you want to go back into this house, 1266 00:56:22,833 --> 00:56:25,417 that this is going to be able to fit in your house without 1267 00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:28,667 it looking exactly like it did when it left the house. 1268 00:56:28,792 --> 00:56:32,208 As far as I understood this, 1269 00:56:32,292 --> 00:56:36,917 it's paring down the extraneous stuff, right? 1270 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,708 Not getting rid of furniture, and then, oh, 1271 00:56:38,833 --> 00:56:41,833 feeling the need to stop at the first driveway 1272 00:56:41,917 --> 00:56:43,458 that has a cabinet- 1273 00:56:43,542 --> 00:56:44,667 I'm not going to fixate on the furniture 'cause 1274 00:56:44,792 --> 00:56:46,333 whether you keep all the furniture- 1275 00:56:46,417 --> 00:56:48,208 but you can't keep all the furniture. 1276 00:56:48,292 --> 00:56:50,792 All this stuff, you have to shrink this. 1277 00:56:50,875 --> 00:56:52,375 And it has to get done because otherwise, 1278 00:56:52,458 --> 00:56:54,708 everything in two days, with all the hard work 1279 00:56:54,792 --> 00:56:56,542 we've all been doing and the, 1280 00:56:56,625 --> 00:56:58,583 and the hours we've all been working, 1281 00:56:58,667 --> 00:57:00,333 and the rearranging of our lives that we've all 1282 00:57:00,375 --> 00:57:01,667 been doing to help you, is just going to 1283 00:57:01,708 --> 00:57:03,917 go back into that damn house... 1284 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,417 and look exactly the way it did before we left! 1285 00:57:07,542 --> 00:57:09,958 And now you have people around you that 1286 00:57:10,042 --> 00:57:12,000 love you so damn much... 1287 00:57:12,042 --> 00:57:16,000 and just want your energy to be unstuck and free, 1288 00:57:16,083 --> 00:57:20,000 so that you can feel free to smile, and laugh, 1289 00:57:20,083 --> 00:57:23,667 and be happy, or do something that you love to do. 1290 00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:27,000 And I haven't seen you laugh in so damn long. 1291 00:57:27,083 --> 00:57:30,917 I'd like to see it again. It's been too long, Coral. 1292 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,083 It's been far too long. 1293 00:57:33,167 --> 00:57:34,667 ♪ 1294 00:57:38,875 --> 00:57:44,167 ♪ 1295 00:57:44,208 --> 00:57:47,542 Nothing feels like it's moving, in any direction, 1296 00:57:47,625 --> 00:57:51,000 to get this house in any way to what she says she wants, 1297 00:57:51,083 --> 00:57:53,333 or to what we're supposed to be doing here, 1298 00:57:53,333 --> 00:57:55,375 which is trying to purge. 1299 00:57:55,458 --> 00:57:58,542 You're just stuck in the same energy. 1300 00:57:58,625 --> 00:58:00,458 It's like you were stuck in the house. 1301 00:58:00,542 --> 00:58:03,042 You wanted help to feel unstuck. 1302 00:58:03,125 --> 00:58:06,000 You have to be able to go, "Do I really need to save it, 1303 00:58:06,083 --> 00:58:09,625 in case?" If you can't think of someone right now... 1304 00:58:09,708 --> 00:58:12,500 that is going to use it or could use it, 1305 00:58:12,542 --> 00:58:15,333 then it absolutely, at the very least, 1306 00:58:15,417 --> 00:58:17,708 can be donated, if not thrown out. 1307 00:58:17,833 --> 00:58:21,500 ♪ 1308 00:58:21,542 --> 00:58:23,458 -I don't know. -Like, do you disagree with- 1309 00:58:23,542 --> 00:58:26,500 No, thank you for the reminder. 1310 00:58:26,542 --> 00:58:28,917 Don't belabor points. 1311 00:58:29,042 --> 00:58:30,667 ♪ 1312 00:58:30,750 --> 00:58:32,500 That's not going to help. 1313 00:58:32,542 --> 00:58:35,333 I'm not sure I understand what that means. 1314 00:58:35,417 --> 00:58:38,333 You know, I said a lot, she said a lot. 1315 00:58:38,333 --> 00:58:40,708 It's emotionally charged, I get that. 1316 00:58:40,833 --> 00:58:43,125 You have to maximize on this opportunity. 1317 00:58:43,208 --> 00:58:45,708 ♪ 1318 00:58:45,833 --> 00:58:47,667 When was the last time this was used for...? 1319 00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:50,458 It's been a while. That was the one that was... 1320 00:58:50,542 --> 00:58:53,167 But are you willing to let it go because it's... 1321 00:58:53,250 --> 00:58:56,458 unnecessary to be in your way 1322 00:58:56,542 --> 00:58:58,167 once things start getting 1323 00:58:58,250 --> 00:59:00,042 put back in the house. 1324 00:59:00,125 --> 00:59:03,250 ♪ 1325 00:59:03,333 --> 00:59:05,333 Yeah, I'll let it go. 1326 00:59:05,417 --> 00:59:07,250 I'm proud of you, no, I seriously 1327 00:59:07,375 --> 00:59:10,917 am proud of you, very, very proud of you. 1328 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,500 Nobody... nobody here is pretending 1329 00:59:14,583 --> 00:59:16,375 that we don't know this is hard. 1330 00:59:16,458 --> 00:59:18,333 Okay? It is hard. 1331 00:59:18,417 --> 00:59:21,208 Okay. So we will get this out now. 1332 00:59:21,292 --> 00:59:31,250 ♪ 1333 00:59:36,292 --> 00:59:43,917 ♪ 1334 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,292 Khendra's accumulated a lot of stuff. 1335 00:59:47,375 --> 00:59:50,125 The two bedrooms upstairs, the one that's Jade's, 1336 00:59:50,208 --> 00:59:53,167 and then one that was mine long, long ago, 1337 00:59:53,250 --> 00:59:54,958 before it became Khendra's... 1338 00:59:55,042 --> 00:59:57,375 Oh, my God. How much cat... 1339 00:59:57,458 --> 00:59:59,333 cat litter can be in here? 1340 00:59:59,375 --> 01:00:00,792 I can't really think of a time when 1341 01:00:00,875 --> 01:00:02,375 it's been cleared completely. 1342 01:00:02,500 --> 01:00:04,208 You know, I'm excited to see it happen. 1343 01:00:04,208 --> 01:00:06,500 [Coughing] Ew. 1344 01:00:06,583 --> 01:00:10,167 Ew, ew, okay, nope. 1345 01:00:10,292 --> 01:00:14,083 This is good enough to keep. 1346 01:00:14,167 --> 01:00:18,500 ♪ 1347 01:00:18,542 --> 01:00:20,833 All of my stuff is primarily garbage and 1348 01:00:20,917 --> 01:00:22,833 rat infested and destroyed. 1349 01:00:22,875 --> 01:00:25,000 I just haven't had access to a dumpster, 1350 01:00:25,125 --> 01:00:27,417 or the inclination to throw it away. 1351 01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:29,375 That was a nice dress. 1352 01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:31,333 They were chewing apart my clothing and, 1353 01:00:31,458 --> 01:00:33,333 you know, eating my plants. 1354 01:00:33,375 --> 01:00:35,542 It was terrifying and disgusting. 1355 01:00:35,625 --> 01:00:37,000 This dress. 1356 01:00:37,042 --> 01:00:38,667 This is where you lay your head to rest. 1357 01:00:38,833 --> 01:00:41,333 It's not a safe space anymore. 1358 01:00:41,417 --> 01:00:43,083 Garbage. 1359 01:00:43,167 --> 01:00:51,792 ♪ 1360 01:00:51,875 --> 01:00:54,292 This is going to be the bigger issue. 1361 01:00:54,375 --> 01:00:57,042 Yeah, so I just saw a couple of things, but I know- 1362 01:00:57,167 --> 01:00:58,333 Trust me when I say, 1363 01:00:58,417 --> 01:01:02,833 all of this is legit mold, urine. 1364 01:01:02,875 --> 01:01:04,750 The smell is so strong. 1365 01:01:04,875 --> 01:01:06,750 It's really saturated. 1366 01:01:06,833 --> 01:01:08,625 That pile is my laundry pile... 1367 01:01:08,708 --> 01:01:10,167 right, so that's- 1368 01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:12,458 and I'm just sort of wondering about that. 1369 01:01:12,542 --> 01:01:17,125 I can see a couple of things that probably went wrong here. 1370 01:01:17,208 --> 01:01:19,083 It's pretty, it's absolutely pretty, 1371 01:01:19,208 --> 01:01:20,375 but it smells like mold. 1372 01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:23,208 Things like this, I wore, 1373 01:01:23,292 --> 01:01:24,667 like, three months ago. 1374 01:01:24,708 --> 01:01:27,042 -Smell. -Yeah. 1375 01:01:27,125 --> 01:01:28,667 That's mold. 1376 01:01:28,708 --> 01:01:30,875 But that's a vinegar wash, right. 1377 01:01:30,958 --> 01:01:32,375 Okay, but that's a lot of vinegar wash, 1378 01:01:32,458 --> 01:01:34,000 is what I'm saying. 1379 01:01:34,083 --> 01:01:36,833 There are smells of mold, there are smells of cat urine. 1380 01:01:36,875 --> 01:01:38,708 If she has to handle every piece on top of 1381 01:01:38,792 --> 01:01:41,042 everything else, we won't get through it. 1382 01:01:41,125 --> 01:01:51,083 ♪ 1383 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,083 ♪ 1384 01:01:58,167 --> 01:01:59,708 Everything that was in that ceiling, 1385 01:01:59,792 --> 01:02:02,667 all that moldy stuff, fell right on top of it. 1386 01:02:02,750 --> 01:02:04,750 So, all of this, if you can get rid of it, 1387 01:02:04,833 --> 01:02:06,833 I would highly recommend that you do. 1388 01:02:06,917 --> 01:02:08,750 We got to get to this part here, which is, 1389 01:02:08,875 --> 01:02:11,375 again, all contaminated, okay? 1390 01:02:11,458 --> 01:02:13,500 So, it's not worth saving. 1391 01:02:13,583 --> 01:02:15,792 There's some stuff in here... 1392 01:02:15,875 --> 01:02:20,458 from 20... 19. 1393 01:02:20,542 --> 01:02:21,792 Yeah, probably. 1394 01:02:21,792 --> 01:02:23,875 So... ugh. 1395 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,875 -You see canning jars? -Yeah. 1396 01:02:25,875 --> 01:02:28,458 Okay, that's home canning, right, so that... 1397 01:02:28,542 --> 01:02:30,708 And, the sake is probably fine. 1398 01:02:30,792 --> 01:02:33,833 So, even this one, that was homemade, right. 1399 01:02:33,958 --> 01:02:36,292 -These are all new. -Okay. 1400 01:02:36,375 --> 01:02:37,667 I'm gonna tell you that... 1401 01:02:37,708 --> 01:02:41,167 [Muttering] This... 1402 01:02:41,208 --> 01:02:44,667 Um, I know that the beets in here have to be dumped. 1403 01:02:44,708 --> 01:02:45,958 -Okay. -Okay. 1404 01:02:46,042 --> 01:02:47,708 But I want the container. 1405 01:02:47,833 --> 01:02:49,458 Those have to be dumped, but I want the container. 1406 01:02:49,542 --> 01:02:51,958 There's still the fridge to go through, the freezer, 1407 01:02:52,042 --> 01:02:53,500 but she wants to keep all of it, 1408 01:02:53,542 --> 01:02:54,833 even the expired food. 1409 01:02:54,875 --> 01:02:56,292 Oh, there's my... 1410 01:02:56,375 --> 01:02:58,000 If we keep moving at the speed that we're moving 1411 01:02:58,042 --> 01:03:00,542 right now, there's no way we're going to get it done. 1412 01:03:00,625 --> 01:03:08,250 ♪ 1413 01:03:08,333 --> 01:03:11,958 I'm concerned that no real change is 1414 01:03:12,042 --> 01:03:14,167 going to happen in the long term for you. 1415 01:03:14,250 --> 01:03:16,833 Well, how can you imagine that I'm not feeling it? 1416 01:03:16,917 --> 01:03:20,333 You know, I'm 57 years old, right? 1417 01:03:20,417 --> 01:03:25,000 I'm an anal retentive control freak, right? 1418 01:03:25,042 --> 01:03:27,375 I'm trusting them, right. 1419 01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:29,000 That's a big, big step for a control freak... 1420 01:03:29,083 --> 01:03:30,833 -It is, it is. -Okay. 1421 01:03:30,875 --> 01:03:32,333 ...who needs to see everything, 1422 01:03:32,375 --> 01:03:34,125 so that I can take it out of the archive. 1423 01:03:34,208 --> 01:03:35,542 So, I don't know where you would 1424 01:03:35,625 --> 01:03:39,000 want me to be more involved. 1425 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,292 I actually just want to challenge you. 1426 01:03:40,375 --> 01:03:41,667 Okay. 1427 01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:44,708 I would like you to choose three things... 1428 01:03:44,792 --> 01:03:47,792 from this pile... 1429 01:03:47,875 --> 01:03:50,667 that you can move to either the donation- 1430 01:03:50,708 --> 01:03:52,208 because it's really small, like, 1431 01:03:52,292 --> 01:03:55,167 I look at this area and I look at that area- 1432 01:03:55,250 --> 01:03:56,417 it's really a mental challenge. 1433 01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:58,708 It's about finding a few more things that 1434 01:03:58,792 --> 01:04:00,542 I can decide that I don't need, right? 1435 01:04:00,625 --> 01:04:02,333 -Yeah, can we do that? -That's what you're saying? 1436 01:04:02,375 --> 01:04:05,333 Can we go over together and, three things? 1437 01:04:05,375 --> 01:04:07,292 -Yeah. -Okay. 1438 01:04:07,375 --> 01:04:10,583 I need her to be able to experience a tough decision, 1439 01:04:10,667 --> 01:04:16,125 where she can sink into that moment of anxiety... 1440 01:04:16,208 --> 01:04:18,708 and know how to deal with that feeling, 1441 01:04:18,833 --> 01:04:21,125 and make a decision in spite of it. 1442 01:04:21,208 --> 01:04:25,750 ♪ 1443 01:04:25,833 --> 01:04:29,000 You have about four, four or five things. 1444 01:04:29,042 --> 01:04:30,792 -Tell me about... -How I'm deciding? 1445 01:04:30,875 --> 01:04:32,292 Yeah. 1446 01:04:32,375 --> 01:04:35,708 Well, I believe this hat's too small for anybody. 1447 01:04:35,792 --> 01:04:37,833 It used to be Jade's. 1448 01:04:37,875 --> 01:04:40,583 So, I'm assuming it won't... 1449 01:04:40,583 --> 01:04:42,125 disturb her. 1450 01:04:42,208 --> 01:04:44,208 I don't even know why that was in there. 1451 01:04:44,292 --> 01:04:46,417 It's just a little set of cushions. 1452 01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:50,500 These are the decorations that I used for my wedding, 1453 01:04:50,583 --> 01:04:55,250 that I think are perfectly acceptable crafting items 1454 01:04:55,333 --> 01:04:57,000 that can go on to be used by 1455 01:04:57,042 --> 01:04:59,083 somebody else for something else. 1456 01:04:59,208 --> 01:05:02,167 The other one of these cushions was tossed 1457 01:05:02,208 --> 01:05:05,042 because it was covered in cat hair. 1458 01:05:05,125 --> 01:05:08,625 How do you feel about letting these items go? 1459 01:05:08,708 --> 01:05:11,167 ♪ 1460 01:05:11,208 --> 01:05:13,208 I feel okay about letting them go. 1461 01:05:13,292 --> 01:05:16,500 They're not needed, right, so they're just extraneous. 1462 01:05:16,542 --> 01:05:17,875 Yeah. 1463 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,042 You want to create behaviors that repeat themselves 1464 01:05:21,167 --> 01:05:24,250 over and over, long after we're gone. 1465 01:05:24,333 --> 01:05:29,167 If you don't do this kind of thing on a regular basis... 1466 01:05:29,292 --> 01:05:30,625 you're going to end up- 1467 01:05:30,708 --> 01:05:32,708 -In the same place. -Absolutely. 1468 01:05:32,792 --> 01:05:36,417 My concern is that the task was a little too easy for her. 1469 01:05:36,500 --> 01:05:39,167 And, she can make tougher decisions, 1470 01:05:39,250 --> 01:05:40,792 maybe not about everything. 1471 01:05:40,875 --> 01:05:42,792 I'm afraid that she just doesn't want to. 1472 01:05:42,875 --> 01:05:44,417 ♪ 1473 01:05:48,625 --> 01:05:58,125 ♪ 1474 01:05:58,208 --> 01:06:00,875 The upstairs level of the home has been cleared and 1475 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,333 it's on the lawn. 1476 01:06:02,417 --> 01:06:05,500 However, the main level hasn't been touched at all. 1477 01:06:05,583 --> 01:06:07,667 We're not close to really being where we would 1478 01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:09,708 want to be, at this point. 1479 01:06:09,833 --> 01:06:16,208 ♪ 1480 01:06:16,292 --> 01:06:18,833 There's a lot of things that aren't working. 1481 01:06:18,917 --> 01:06:22,167 That have interfered with me being able to make progress. 1482 01:06:22,167 --> 01:06:25,875 Everybody has their idea of what is valuable. 1483 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,167 And when they walk into my dirty house, 1484 01:06:28,208 --> 01:06:31,250 and smell the cat and rat and whatever, pee, 1485 01:06:31,333 --> 01:06:34,125 and see the disarray, okay, and see the dust 1486 01:06:34,208 --> 01:06:37,375 on the books: "Who the ---- needs that many books?" 1487 01:06:37,458 --> 01:06:40,000 That's what goes through most people's heads. 1488 01:06:40,042 --> 01:06:43,667 You are all here on my property, every day! 1489 01:06:43,708 --> 01:06:46,167 You can definitely see I don't live like you, 1490 01:06:46,250 --> 01:06:47,833 and I don't want to. 1491 01:06:47,958 --> 01:06:50,583 Everything was deliberate in my life. 1492 01:06:50,708 --> 01:06:52,792 No, get off me! 1493 01:06:52,875 --> 01:06:55,292 Okay? It's deliberate! 1494 01:06:55,375 --> 01:06:57,833 Including the trash on top of everything. 1495 01:06:57,875 --> 01:06:59,875 It was deliberate. 1496 01:06:59,958 --> 01:07:03,333 At the core, it's really hard for everybody to 1497 01:07:03,417 --> 01:07:07,917 understand I value these things. 1498 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,000 Even in my group, I got people who want to 1499 01:07:11,042 --> 01:07:13,333 second guess what I'm deciding. 1500 01:07:13,375 --> 01:07:17,000 And I want to say to them, you want to question that, 1501 01:07:17,083 --> 01:07:19,375 question it, then shut up. 1502 01:07:19,458 --> 01:07:22,583 But you want to ------ keep pressuring me in that minute? 1503 01:07:22,667 --> 01:07:25,500 Okay, we're going to see more resistance than you want. 1504 01:07:25,583 --> 01:07:26,833 You all know that. 1505 01:07:26,917 --> 01:07:29,083 That's why we haven't done this before. 1506 01:07:29,167 --> 01:07:32,542 So, don't do it. Okay? 1507 01:07:32,542 --> 01:07:34,542 Allow me some time... 1508 01:07:34,625 --> 01:07:38,250 ...to think about what I'm saying goodbye to. 1509 01:07:38,333 --> 01:07:40,125 -Can we start fresh? -Yes! 1510 01:07:40,208 --> 01:07:42,458 -Can we start fresh today? -Okay, on that note... 1511 01:07:42,542 --> 01:07:44,542 we still have the downstairs to do. 1512 01:07:44,625 --> 01:07:46,167 And I want to make sure that it goes right, 1513 01:07:46,250 --> 01:07:48,250 and it's done respectfully for you. 1514 01:07:48,333 --> 01:07:49,667 And I know it's going to take all of us- 1515 01:07:49,708 --> 01:07:54,042 it's not just you- but we gotta get started. 1516 01:07:54,125 --> 01:07:56,833 I would like to clarify all the communication, 1517 01:07:56,917 --> 01:07:59,875 a team leader from your family. 1518 01:07:59,958 --> 01:08:02,500 I think it's going to have to be me, if everybody agrees. 1519 01:08:02,625 --> 01:08:04,958 We all nominate Tanya. Say aye or nay. 1520 01:08:05,042 --> 01:08:06,000 Okay. 1521 01:08:06,083 --> 01:08:07,458 I'll do this tent. This chaotic- 1522 01:08:07,542 --> 01:08:09,333 What category would you like? 1523 01:08:09,417 --> 01:08:11,833 Stuff that nobody knows what it is because- 1524 01:08:11,875 --> 01:08:14,167 Miscellaneous, miscellaneous. 1525 01:08:14,208 --> 01:08:17,375 Okay, but I need at least one or two other people. 1526 01:08:17,375 --> 01:08:19,417 And I need helpers on this side. 1527 01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:20,792 You want books? 1528 01:08:20,917 --> 01:08:22,750 Okay, we've got Mara on books. 1529 01:08:22,875 --> 01:08:24,833 Can I just say this? 1530 01:08:24,958 --> 01:08:27,250 I've very comfortable making sure that's sorted exactly 1531 01:08:27,333 --> 01:08:29,125 the way they come out, and removing furniture 1532 01:08:29,125 --> 01:08:30,417 slightly here and there. 1533 01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:32,333 Did I just hear you become the furniture captain? 1534 01:08:32,375 --> 01:08:34,167 -Yes. -Thank you. 1535 01:08:34,250 --> 01:08:36,500 I'm trying to get things back on track. 1536 01:08:36,542 --> 01:08:39,042 Tanya really wants to take control of the situation, 1537 01:08:39,125 --> 01:08:41,625 and hopefully, this helps us to go much faster 1538 01:08:41,708 --> 01:08:44,458 'cause Coral's system is not working. 1539 01:08:44,542 --> 01:08:54,500 ♪ 1540 01:08:57,208 --> 01:08:59,625 -This is your keep box. -This is my keep box. 1541 01:08:59,708 --> 01:09:01,250 I'm going to keep this because the other ones 1542 01:09:01,333 --> 01:09:03,000 have all been thrown away. 1543 01:09:03,042 --> 01:09:05,250 This is my clothes, so, keep. 1544 01:09:05,333 --> 01:09:07,875 Keeping, it's the one that's not broken. 1545 01:09:07,958 --> 01:09:10,250 Um, okay, yes, this is a keep. 1546 01:09:10,333 --> 01:09:13,667 So, it can stay with my sewing stuff. 1547 01:09:13,708 --> 01:09:15,000 -I'm doing it. -Yeah, I'm keeping. 1548 01:09:15,042 --> 01:09:16,750 -Keeping? -Yes, I want my stereo. 1549 01:09:16,833 --> 01:09:18,708 I only have one stereo. 1550 01:09:18,833 --> 01:09:21,375 I'm keeping that garden guy. 1551 01:09:21,458 --> 01:09:23,333 -It's the camping one. -It's cast iron. 1552 01:09:23,417 --> 01:09:26,750 It's my cast iron camping pot, so it's a keep. 1553 01:09:26,833 --> 01:09:28,875 Okay, I'm going to keep these. 1554 01:09:28,958 --> 01:09:36,792 ♪ 1555 01:09:36,875 --> 01:09:39,167 It was a pretty intense morning and a lot of things, 1556 01:09:39,208 --> 01:09:42,167 I think, were... needed to be said. 1557 01:09:42,208 --> 01:09:45,542 I could feel that you needed to be heard. 1558 01:09:45,708 --> 01:09:48,250 You don't have an accumulation or buying 1559 01:09:48,375 --> 01:09:51,500 or shopping, this is not a- it's not an intake, 1560 01:09:51,667 --> 01:09:54,542 an excessive intake problem. This seems to me like 1561 01:09:54,625 --> 01:09:57,583 a result of a whole lifetime of... 1562 01:09:57,667 --> 01:09:59,583 almost never throwing anything away. 1563 01:09:59,667 --> 01:10:01,542 And by throw away, please take that to mean 1564 01:10:01,667 --> 01:10:03,667 donate everything, everything, everything. 1565 01:10:03,750 --> 01:10:05,083 I understand, yeah. 1566 01:10:05,167 --> 01:10:06,833 It's a catch-all term for exiting the home. 1567 01:10:06,958 --> 01:10:08,083 Yeah. 1568 01:10:08,208 --> 01:10:10,875 But, too much of it hasn't gone. 1569 01:10:10,958 --> 01:10:13,750 ♪ 1570 01:10:13,833 --> 01:10:16,375 I guess I've always been somebody who's saving it. 1571 01:10:16,458 --> 01:10:19,500 Not saving it so much for a rainy day. 1572 01:10:19,542 --> 01:10:22,583 You know, depression era stuff going on, maybe? 1573 01:10:22,708 --> 01:10:26,792 Any kind of life that we live in a way that's either 1574 01:10:26,875 --> 01:10:31,792 too extreme, too rigid, or, or inflexible, 1575 01:10:31,875 --> 01:10:33,167 will cause us problems. 1576 01:10:33,208 --> 01:10:35,042 This is not adaptive behavior, 1577 01:10:35,125 --> 01:10:37,042 if the behavior resulted in the home 1578 01:10:37,125 --> 01:10:40,458 looking the way it did. 1579 01:10:40,542 --> 01:10:41,917 Okay. 1580 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,417 If you had so much of it that you couldn't walk through the 1581 01:10:44,500 --> 01:10:46,500 house safely, that you couldn't move through the 1582 01:10:46,583 --> 01:10:48,542 home with energy, that it was draining you, 1583 01:10:48,625 --> 01:10:50,708 that you couldn't enjoy your, your treasures and 1584 01:10:50,833 --> 01:10:53,167 your instruments and your books- do you, 1585 01:10:53,333 --> 01:10:55,333 can you still see, that has become a problem? 1586 01:10:55,417 --> 01:10:57,083 That's where the line gets crossed, 1587 01:10:57,208 --> 01:10:59,750 where it's an actual problem. 1588 01:10:59,875 --> 01:11:03,958 ♪ 1589 01:11:04,042 --> 01:11:06,917 It's a mental health problem. 1590 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:11,042 Change can happen, but it requires ongoing effort. 1591 01:11:11,125 --> 01:11:14,542 It's not a short-term fix. 1592 01:11:14,625 --> 01:11:18,458 If Coral doesn't learn how to stop overthinking, 1593 01:11:18,542 --> 01:11:21,292 over-talking and over-processing 1594 01:11:21,375 --> 01:11:24,625 these decisions, I'm afraid no real change 1595 01:11:24,708 --> 01:11:26,750 in her behavior will happen. 1596 01:11:26,875 --> 01:11:27,792 ♪ 1597 01:11:31,917 --> 01:11:40,625 ♪ 1598 01:11:40,708 --> 01:11:43,292 Right now, I'm dealing with having so much stuff 1599 01:11:43,375 --> 01:11:46,042 outdoors, and that's just from the upstairs. 1600 01:11:46,125 --> 01:11:49,167 Tanya's first decision this morning was to get rid of the 1601 01:11:49,292 --> 01:11:51,458 donate pile, so we can create more room. 1602 01:11:51,542 --> 01:11:53,833 So, we started loading it into the trailer, 1603 01:11:53,875 --> 01:11:56,292 and it's like Coral felt it in her being. 1604 01:11:56,375 --> 01:11:57,667 So, she comes around the corner 1605 01:11:57,750 --> 01:11:59,500 and puts a stop to everything. 1606 01:11:59,667 --> 01:12:02,167 So, I was told very specifically at the beginning- 1607 01:12:02,250 --> 01:12:04,625 -Yeah. -I think by you- 1608 01:12:04,708 --> 01:12:06,792 That we could make up boxes... 1609 01:12:06,875 --> 01:12:10,000 or piles for the various people that the 1610 01:12:10,042 --> 01:12:11,708 donations were going to. 1611 01:12:11,833 --> 01:12:12,833 Yep. 1612 01:12:12,958 --> 01:12:18,542 And, I'm just seeing it all go into this truck. 1613 01:12:18,625 --> 01:12:20,333 So, how do you think we should do it? 1614 01:12:20,375 --> 01:12:21,375 Because we're running out of room. 1615 01:12:21,458 --> 01:12:22,833 We're running out of time. 1616 01:12:22,958 --> 01:12:26,417 And, all of this, is taking the time away from that, 1617 01:12:26,542 --> 01:12:29,250 from me, and I feel like my hands are really- 1618 01:12:29,333 --> 01:12:30,875 I feel handcuffed right now. 1619 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:31,917 And I don't know what to do 1620 01:12:32,042 --> 01:12:33,333 And I feel dishonored. 1621 01:12:33,375 --> 01:12:34,792 And I feel dishonored because I- 1622 01:12:34,875 --> 01:12:36,667 And I'm not going to throw this out at all, okay, 1623 01:12:36,750 --> 01:12:38,333 that's not what I'm trying to say here. 1624 01:12:38,417 --> 01:12:40,083 And I'm not trying to force you to just, 1625 01:12:40,208 --> 01:12:41,833 for this to go to one place. 1626 01:12:41,875 --> 01:12:45,000 I want to come up with a solution that will honor you, 1627 01:12:45,083 --> 01:12:48,500 but it will also allow me to do this very quickly. 1628 01:12:48,542 --> 01:12:50,750 Do you have a suggested solution? 1629 01:12:50,833 --> 01:12:52,667 -I do, I do. -My suggestion- go ahead. 1630 01:12:52,750 --> 01:12:54,833 If, when you're saying 'donate', 1631 01:12:54,917 --> 01:12:58,042 you have someone in mind you want... 1632 01:12:58,125 --> 01:12:59,833 I have, yeah, they're on- 1633 01:12:59,917 --> 01:13:03,333 We will handle that aspect of it today. 1634 01:13:03,417 --> 01:13:05,917 However, we got to get to these. 1635 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,167 I, yes, yes. 1636 01:13:07,250 --> 01:13:08,125 All right, let's just get it done then. 1637 01:13:08,208 --> 01:13:10,083 Okay. 1638 01:13:10,167 --> 01:13:11,667 [Julio] I have hours left. 1639 01:13:11,708 --> 01:13:13,083 Now we're back to sorting stuff that 1640 01:13:13,167 --> 01:13:15,042 has already been sorted. 1641 01:13:15,125 --> 01:13:17,542 We don't have time for any of this right now. 1642 01:13:17,625 --> 01:13:20,333 -So this is one? -This is one. 1643 01:13:20,417 --> 01:13:22,000 I've been given the responsibility of 1644 01:13:22,042 --> 01:13:23,708 being bad cop. 1645 01:13:23,792 --> 01:13:26,458 So, I had to step in and say, "I'm going to get it handled 1646 01:13:26,542 --> 01:13:29,208 for you, and I'm going to get a system in place." 1647 01:13:29,292 --> 01:13:32,708 I did, and it happened all very quickly so I could get her 1648 01:13:32,792 --> 01:13:34,917 back where she needed to be to continue sorting. 1649 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,750 ♪ 1650 01:13:38,750 --> 01:13:40,458 Try to get rid of as much of this as possible. 1651 01:13:40,542 --> 01:13:44,500 This all looks kind of antiquated and unnecessary. 1652 01:13:44,542 --> 01:13:46,292 A lot of that is garbage, even. 1653 01:13:46,375 --> 01:13:47,750 No, I know, I can see that. 1654 01:13:47,833 --> 01:13:51,375 [Clicking tongue] [Muttering] 1655 01:13:51,500 --> 01:13:53,625 Okay, faster... 1656 01:13:53,708 --> 01:13:55,000 Faster. 1657 01:13:55,083 --> 01:13:56,833 If you're not seeing things right off the bat you need, 1658 01:13:56,958 --> 01:13:58,583 then just get rid of it. 1659 01:13:58,667 --> 01:14:00,167 Can we get rid of it, it's not even in good shape. 1660 01:14:00,292 --> 01:14:02,833 Okay, this is probably keep. 1661 01:14:02,958 --> 01:14:04,667 Sorry to be a hound dog, but you got 1662 01:14:04,750 --> 01:14:07,167 four more seconds to make a decision. 1663 01:14:07,167 --> 01:14:08,750 Yes, I'd like to keep it. 1664 01:14:08,833 --> 01:14:11,333 Okay, yeah, I think we're keeping that dresser. 1665 01:14:11,375 --> 01:14:13,292 You can just put that in the keep, right? 1666 01:14:13,375 --> 01:14:15,250 Oh, that's your new keep, okay. 1667 01:14:15,333 --> 01:14:16,750 Keep, and put it with the baskets, 1668 01:14:16,833 --> 01:14:19,375 that's the not broken one. Excellent. 1669 01:14:19,458 --> 01:14:21,667 And this is a keep. 1670 01:14:21,708 --> 01:14:31,000 ♪ 1671 01:14:31,083 --> 01:14:33,125 I'm trying to advocate for you to see 1672 01:14:33,208 --> 01:14:34,583 the mental health issue here. 1673 01:14:34,708 --> 01:14:38,333 You have this very compulsive need... 1674 01:14:38,417 --> 01:14:41,333 to look, and sort, and touch, and talk about, 1675 01:14:41,458 --> 01:14:44,667 and just process everything that you own. 1676 01:14:44,750 --> 01:14:47,667 Yes, just, I mean, to some extent. 1677 01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:50,458 It's very time consuming. 1678 01:14:50,542 --> 01:14:52,625 You need to delegate some of these decisions- 1679 01:14:52,708 --> 01:14:54,167 -Can I interrupt? -Yeah. 1680 01:14:54,250 --> 01:14:55,375 -I'm sorry. -Yeah, yeah. 1681 01:14:55,542 --> 01:14:56,625 I don't know what you've been saying to her. 1682 01:14:56,708 --> 01:14:57,750 It sounds like maybe we're going to be saying 1683 01:14:57,875 --> 01:14:59,500 the same thing. But everybody's like, 1684 01:14:59,542 --> 01:15:00,958 "I don't think we should bring anything out, 1685 01:15:01,042 --> 01:15:02,833 because I don't think you guys are going to even 1686 01:15:02,917 --> 01:15:04,250 get through what's out here already 1687 01:15:04,333 --> 01:15:06,500 at the pace that we're going." 1688 01:15:06,542 --> 01:15:08,458 The people working on your behalf, 1689 01:15:08,542 --> 01:15:10,250 they have to have more authority so they can 1690 01:15:10,333 --> 01:15:12,792 just get rid of stuff. 1691 01:15:12,875 --> 01:15:16,292 You being able to do exactly what Tanya just said, 1692 01:15:16,375 --> 01:15:20,000 is a very key part of your change here. 1693 01:15:20,083 --> 01:15:23,167 Stop trying to avoid the discomfort that you think 1694 01:15:23,208 --> 01:15:25,958 you're going to feel because they made the decisions. 1695 01:15:26,042 --> 01:15:30,833 Trust them. Give them the trust that they know you, 1696 01:15:30,875 --> 01:15:33,583 they're your family, they care about you, 1697 01:15:33,708 --> 01:15:36,333 they will make the best decisions- the best- 1698 01:15:36,417 --> 01:15:38,375 not the right, wrong, perfect decisions, 1699 01:15:38,500 --> 01:15:40,667 but the best ones that they know how to make. 1700 01:15:40,708 --> 01:15:42,125 They've got your back. 1701 01:15:42,250 --> 01:15:45,958 But you being able to give up the control to them is 1702 01:15:46,042 --> 01:15:48,625 a huge part of your mental health process. 1703 01:15:48,708 --> 01:15:49,792 Otherwise, we're going to fail. 1704 01:15:49,875 --> 01:15:51,292 We're going to fail, and this is 1705 01:15:51,375 --> 01:15:53,125 all going to be for nothing. 1706 01:15:53,208 --> 01:15:56,500 ♪ 1707 01:15:56,583 --> 01:15:58,500 And that's not going to put you in a better space, 1708 01:15:58,583 --> 01:16:00,917 'cause it's going to be a disorganized failure. 1709 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,500 ♪ 1710 01:16:02,583 --> 01:16:04,375 I know. 1711 01:16:04,458 --> 01:16:06,208 Um... 1712 01:16:06,292 --> 01:16:07,875 I know it's hard. 1713 01:16:07,958 --> 01:16:10,667 Well, I know that some of that stuff is- 1714 01:16:10,792 --> 01:16:13,667 all of those... sort-y boxes- 1715 01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:16,500 Do you think Khendra's going to make bad decisions? 1716 01:16:16,583 --> 01:16:19,208 That's what you need to ask yourself. 1717 01:16:19,292 --> 01:16:22,708 ♪ 1718 01:16:22,792 --> 01:16:24,458 So, she can have the authority to 1719 01:16:24,542 --> 01:16:27,458 deal with the living room. 1720 01:16:27,542 --> 01:16:29,000 Without any resentment afterwards towards her? 1721 01:16:29,125 --> 01:16:31,458 -Yes, without any resentment. -Okay. 1722 01:16:31,542 --> 01:16:38,333 ♪ 1723 01:16:38,375 --> 01:16:41,750 I really needed her to understand that we've put in 1724 01:16:41,833 --> 01:16:46,167 so much time and effort and energy to help her, 1725 01:16:46,208 --> 01:16:49,458 that she needs to start to help herself. 1726 01:16:49,542 --> 01:16:58,417 ♪ 1727 01:16:58,500 --> 01:17:01,958 We've finally convinced Coral to give up some control to 1728 01:17:02,042 --> 01:17:05,958 Khendra to start clearing out the downstairs living room. 1729 01:17:06,042 --> 01:17:07,875 So you're keeping four of the cans? 1730 01:17:07,958 --> 01:17:09,500 -Four of the metal ones. -And the rest? 1731 01:17:09,542 --> 01:17:10,417 And then, the rest are all recyclable. 1732 01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:11,792 No problem. 1733 01:17:11,875 --> 01:17:14,458 I'm going for more garbage than donate, 1734 01:17:14,542 --> 01:17:15,958 more donate than keep. 1735 01:17:16,042 --> 01:17:17,958 That's the goal, but there are so many papers piled up 1736 01:17:18,042 --> 01:17:20,708 that that's like 80% of the keep right now. 1737 01:17:20,833 --> 01:17:22,958 ♪ 1738 01:17:23,042 --> 01:17:24,250 Let her decide. 1739 01:17:24,333 --> 01:17:26,083 Bye-bye, couch. 1740 01:17:26,208 --> 01:17:29,208 It actually feels like we can get that room done. 1741 01:17:29,208 --> 01:17:30,833 Trash. 1742 01:17:30,875 --> 01:17:40,833 ♪ 1743 01:17:45,083 --> 01:17:46,208 All right, I know how important 1744 01:17:46,292 --> 01:17:47,708 this room is for you. 1745 01:17:47,833 --> 01:17:49,833 Okay, so I want to make sure that we get this done today, 1746 01:17:49,917 --> 01:17:52,750 but I need your help. I have about two hours left. 1747 01:17:52,833 --> 01:17:55,333 I'm hoping that I can get this done, 1748 01:17:55,417 --> 01:17:57,208 but the only way it can get done, 1749 01:17:57,292 --> 01:18:00,042 is if you give somebody else control. 1750 01:18:00,125 --> 01:18:03,333 Or do you want us to just leave it like this? 1751 01:18:03,417 --> 01:18:07,417 Well, who, are you suggesting somebody in particular, 1752 01:18:07,542 --> 01:18:08,667 or are you telling- asking- 1753 01:18:08,833 --> 01:18:12,292 Who would you trust to do this for you properly? 1754 01:18:12,375 --> 01:18:15,292 ♪ 1755 01:18:15,375 --> 01:18:18,000 Um... 1756 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,417 I think I could do an okay job. 1757 01:18:20,500 --> 01:18:24,500 -Well, almost- -Jade's volunteering. 1758 01:18:24,583 --> 01:18:26,833 Um... 1759 01:18:26,833 --> 01:18:30,542 I am confident that if you gave me... 1760 01:18:30,625 --> 01:18:32,542 the authority that you gave Khendra for the living room, 1761 01:18:32,625 --> 01:18:36,000 that I would sort it in the same manner that she did... 1762 01:18:36,042 --> 01:18:39,167 before it gets taken out to your vicinity, 1763 01:18:39,292 --> 01:18:42,583 and I would keep all of the stuff that is still intact. 1764 01:18:42,667 --> 01:18:45,208 Can you trust her to sort it for you? 1765 01:18:47,875 --> 01:18:50,583 Yes, ah- yes. 1766 01:18:50,667 --> 01:18:54,125 I, I can... I can trust Jade to do this room. 1767 01:18:54,208 --> 01:18:56,333 -Jade, you ready for this? -Yes, I am. 1768 01:18:56,417 --> 01:18:58,458 Okay, let's do it. 1769 01:18:58,542 --> 01:19:00,458 -Fantastic. -Okay, let's do it! 1770 01:19:00,542 --> 01:19:03,875 ♪ 1771 01:19:03,958 --> 01:19:07,000 Letting go of something we value is the ultimate test of 1772 01:19:07,042 --> 01:19:09,875 our ability to overcome the control that 1773 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,667 our possessions have over us. 1774 01:19:12,708 --> 01:19:17,208 She is going to have to learn how to want less. 1775 01:19:17,292 --> 01:19:19,125 ♪ 1776 01:19:23,333 --> 01:19:31,333 ♪ 1777 01:19:31,458 --> 01:19:33,792 Coral was one of the toughest customers that 1778 01:19:33,875 --> 01:19:35,542 I've ever had to deal with. 1779 01:19:35,625 --> 01:19:37,500 She was an uphill battle. 1780 01:19:37,542 --> 01:19:40,333 A lot of emotional ups and downs. 1781 01:19:40,417 --> 01:19:42,000 And now here we are. 1782 01:19:42,125 --> 01:19:43,792 We're gonna get this done. 1783 01:19:43,875 --> 01:19:47,208 [Tanya] The sheer amount of work we put in this week, 1784 01:19:47,333 --> 01:19:50,000 and the exhaustion we were willing to endure, 1785 01:19:50,042 --> 01:19:53,250 and the fact that we came back the next day, on time, 1786 01:19:53,375 --> 01:19:56,875 to do it again, I just truly can't believe it. 1787 01:19:56,958 --> 01:19:59,750 It's difficult to express my appreciation for 1788 01:19:59,833 --> 01:20:01,583 all the hard work everybody's put in. 1789 01:20:01,667 --> 01:20:04,625 I hope Coral sees this as just 1790 01:20:04,708 --> 01:20:07,042 the starting point for a better life. 1791 01:20:07,125 --> 01:20:17,083 ♪ 1792 01:20:21,667 --> 01:20:23,125 Goodness. 1793 01:20:23,208 --> 01:20:24,542 Ah, nice. 1794 01:20:24,625 --> 01:20:26,500 ♪ 1795 01:20:26,583 --> 01:20:28,500 Wow! 1796 01:20:28,542 --> 01:20:31,500 That's nice, yeah. 1797 01:20:31,542 --> 01:20:33,000 [Indistinct speaking] 1798 01:20:33,042 --> 01:20:34,875 Well, it's nice to see my baskets displayed. 1799 01:20:34,958 --> 01:20:38,167 -It's fantastic. -[Laughing] 1800 01:20:38,292 --> 01:20:40,792 ♪ 1801 01:20:40,875 --> 01:20:44,500 It looks so much cleaner. 1802 01:20:44,583 --> 01:20:45,917 Wow. 1803 01:20:46,042 --> 01:20:49,042 What was the first thought or feeling that you had 1804 01:20:49,125 --> 01:20:51,125 when you came through that door? 1805 01:20:51,208 --> 01:20:54,083 Well, it was, it was lovely to feel the space, 1806 01:20:54,167 --> 01:20:56,917 you know, the energy of open space. 1807 01:20:57,042 --> 01:20:59,125 ♪ 1808 01:20:59,125 --> 01:21:01,042 That's how I tried to set this up, 1809 01:21:01,167 --> 01:21:03,750 so that if you have guests over, they can sit down, 1810 01:21:03,833 --> 01:21:06,042 have a coffee, have some tea with you. 1811 01:21:06,125 --> 01:21:09,167 And then enjoy everything that you create here. 1812 01:21:09,250 --> 01:21:11,042 Well, thank you. 1813 01:21:11,125 --> 01:21:12,083 Mike? 1814 01:21:12,167 --> 01:21:14,042 My first thought walking through the doors: 1815 01:21:14,125 --> 01:21:15,875 Where'd all the stuff go? 1816 01:21:15,875 --> 01:21:19,708 -[Laughing] -I like it. 1817 01:21:19,792 --> 01:21:22,167 I'm excited for my dad. 1818 01:21:22,250 --> 01:21:24,000 I think that... 1819 01:21:24,167 --> 01:21:27,292 he's going to have the opportunity to not have to 1820 01:21:27,375 --> 01:21:30,208 feel like he has to hide himself away 1821 01:21:30,292 --> 01:21:32,375 in the top corner of the house. 1822 01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:38,833 ♪ 1823 01:21:38,917 --> 01:21:40,792 -Hm! -Wow. 1824 01:21:40,875 --> 01:21:45,458 ♪ 1825 01:21:45,542 --> 01:21:47,500 Holy smokes. 1826 01:21:47,625 --> 01:21:49,375 No, I know. 1827 01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:51,750 [Laughing & chatter] 1828 01:21:51,833 --> 01:21:54,000 Holy smokes. 1829 01:21:54,125 --> 01:22:04,083 ♪ 1830 01:22:04,292 --> 01:22:06,333 There's no way this isn't going to make a difference. 1831 01:22:06,375 --> 01:22:09,625 Even if she doesn't change who she is, 1832 01:22:09,708 --> 01:22:15,167 the fact that she can understand how dirty it was... 1833 01:22:15,250 --> 01:22:18,000 she's not going to let it get there again. 1834 01:22:18,042 --> 01:22:20,375 Oh my goodness. 1835 01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:21,708 I won't say no. 1836 01:22:21,792 --> 01:22:23,500 [Laughing] 1837 01:22:23,542 --> 01:22:25,000 Oh, it is very comfy. 1838 01:22:25,083 --> 01:22:26,333 You are guys are on it, I want to come in and see it. 1839 01:22:26,417 --> 01:22:28,833 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1840 01:22:28,875 --> 01:22:31,000 Every time we walked into another room, 1841 01:22:31,083 --> 01:22:33,958 there was just utter relief. 1842 01:22:34,042 --> 01:22:35,125 [Indistinct chatter] 1843 01:22:35,208 --> 01:22:36,875 -Wow. -Oh, my God! 1844 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:38,167 Oh, my God! 1845 01:22:38,208 --> 01:22:39,667 I was wondering where that went! 1846 01:22:39,792 --> 01:22:41,167 Yeah, and we'll get to play. 1847 01:22:41,208 --> 01:22:43,292 Oh, my goodness, I haven't seen this in forever! 1848 01:22:43,375 --> 01:22:45,583 Yeah, I was wondering about it, I was wondering about it. 1849 01:22:45,708 --> 01:22:50,833 ♪ 1850 01:22:50,875 --> 01:22:54,125 You did all the work for this room, Khendra. 1851 01:22:54,208 --> 01:22:56,667 You did all the work for this room. 1852 01:22:56,708 --> 01:22:59,375 [Indistinct chatter & laughing] 1853 01:22:59,458 --> 01:23:01,542 I'm very proud of my daughters. 1854 01:23:01,667 --> 01:23:03,958 They stepped up fully. 1855 01:23:04,042 --> 01:23:07,917 They worked hard. 1856 01:23:08,042 --> 01:23:10,500 And they proved to me, 1857 01:23:10,583 --> 01:23:15,125 and to everybody else, that they really know me. 1858 01:23:15,208 --> 01:23:19,958 This is because of you. You did this. 1859 01:23:20,042 --> 01:23:21,667 Thank you, thank you, thank you. 1860 01:23:21,708 --> 01:23:22,917 -Thank you. -Absolutely. 1861 01:23:23,042 --> 01:23:25,000 I know. 1862 01:23:25,042 --> 01:23:28,708 I have been carrying so much worry that this 1863 01:23:28,708 --> 01:23:31,333 wasn't going to get done right... 1864 01:23:31,375 --> 01:23:33,958 that we were going to do something to hurt her 1865 01:23:34,042 --> 01:23:35,833 more than we helped her. 1866 01:23:35,917 --> 01:23:38,292 And... 1867 01:23:38,375 --> 01:23:41,708 I'm just so happy that it got done right. 1868 01:23:41,792 --> 01:23:46,208 It has not been an easy task and, you persevered. 1869 01:23:46,292 --> 01:23:49,167 I mean, you really stuck through... 1870 01:23:49,250 --> 01:23:52,500 some very difficult moments, facing what you 1871 01:23:52,583 --> 01:23:55,625 all faced together, but especially you, Coral. 1872 01:23:55,708 --> 01:23:58,167 ♪ 1873 01:23:58,250 --> 01:24:00,167 It's been difficult. 1874 01:24:00,250 --> 01:24:02,583 It's your home, but better. 1875 01:24:02,667 --> 01:24:04,125 It's amazing. 1876 01:24:04,208 --> 01:24:07,875 It's a testimony to how much... 1877 01:24:07,958 --> 01:24:10,667 the people who love me are willing to 1878 01:24:10,750 --> 01:24:13,750 endure and work to help me. 1879 01:24:13,833 --> 01:24:15,250 [Applauding] 1880 01:24:15,375 --> 01:24:18,667 This experience has been an ongoing lesson... 1881 01:24:18,750 --> 01:24:21,417 in letting go. 1882 01:24:21,542 --> 01:24:25,833 I feel I got my home back, but I also 1883 01:24:25,917 --> 01:24:28,125 got my family back. 1884 01:24:28,208 --> 01:24:31,000 And that's more important. 1885 01:24:31,083 --> 01:24:32,667 That's the real win. 1886 01:24:32,708 --> 01:24:42,667 ♪ 1887 01:24:47,667 --> 01:24:57,625 ♪