1 00:00:02,167 --> 00:00:03,167 (dramatic music) 2 00:00:03,292 --> 00:00:04,708 - I love being a hoarder. I really do. 3 00:00:04,833 --> 00:00:06,000 (Bob chuckles) 4 00:00:06,125 --> 00:00:09,000 - [Ken] There are mountains of trash. 5 00:00:09,083 --> 00:00:12,292 - The rice is moving. I think it's maggots. 6 00:00:12,375 --> 00:00:13,333 - Yeah, it is. 7 00:00:13,417 --> 00:00:15,958 - Oh, we are in a crisis situation. 8 00:00:16,042 --> 00:00:17,292 (Ken retches) 9 00:00:17,417 --> 00:00:18,958 - I can't. I just started retching. 10 00:00:19,042 --> 00:00:20,333 There were so many bugs. 11 00:00:20,458 --> 00:00:22,500 We have to help him get this house in order, 12 00:00:22,583 --> 00:00:24,333 so that he can be safe. 13 00:00:26,333 --> 00:00:29,125 - We're standing on a foot of trash. This is not doable. 14 00:00:29,208 --> 00:00:31,292 - Why is he sleeping on the floor in the bathroom? 15 00:00:31,417 --> 00:00:33,208 - I just live for this house. 16 00:00:33,333 --> 00:00:36,417 - Everything should go. - No. 17 00:00:36,542 --> 00:00:38,292 - You got a couch just filled with cat pee. 18 00:00:38,375 --> 00:00:39,250 - It is not. 19 00:00:41,583 --> 00:00:45,417 I'm not getting rid of it. I'll tell you that. 20 00:00:47,125 --> 00:00:50,417 (dramtic music) 21 00:01:02,083 --> 00:01:04,708 (gentle music) 22 00:01:28,708 --> 00:01:29,458 I'm Bob. 23 00:01:31,042 --> 00:01:33,167 I'm a commercial artist, 24 00:01:33,292 --> 00:01:38,042 and I've been restoring this Victorian house for 51 years. 25 00:01:43,083 --> 00:01:45,500 I love being a hoarder. I really do. 26 00:01:45,667 --> 00:01:46,583 (Bob chuckles) 27 00:01:49,375 --> 00:01:50,500 I know it's a little crowded. 28 00:01:50,625 --> 00:01:53,708 It could be thinned out a little bit. 29 00:01:56,583 --> 00:02:00,667 I've got things that people can't even buy anymore. 30 00:02:03,167 --> 00:02:05,417 When you first walk into the front door, 31 00:02:05,542 --> 00:02:09,042 you see the stained glass windows in the door. 32 00:02:09,208 --> 00:02:13,500 You see the living room furnished with Louis XIV 33 00:02:13,583 --> 00:02:15,000 antique furniture, 34 00:02:15,083 --> 00:02:16,833 and you see the Victorian staircase 35 00:02:16,958 --> 00:02:19,833 that go up to the second floor. 36 00:02:19,958 --> 00:02:21,000 All the paintings I did here, 37 00:02:21,167 --> 00:02:25,375 is of my best friends and relatives. 38 00:02:29,458 --> 00:02:32,792 - I'm Ceil, and I am Robert's best friend. 39 00:02:34,458 --> 00:02:37,583 I've known him the longest of anyone. 40 00:02:38,708 --> 00:02:40,333 I'm 91, going strong. 41 00:02:41,708 --> 00:02:45,208 - That's me dressed up way back when I was young. 42 00:02:45,375 --> 00:02:49,750 - He's a good man at heart and he loves the antiques. 43 00:02:49,875 --> 00:02:50,958 Then he told me, he said, 44 00:02:51,042 --> 00:02:52,958 "Well, I've got a hundred antique dolls." 45 00:02:53,042 --> 00:02:57,625 I said, "A hundred? Why do you need a hundred of them?" 46 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,333 - I'm Ken, and I'm Bob's friend. 47 00:03:04,417 --> 00:03:06,083 The outside of the home was stunning. 48 00:03:06,208 --> 00:03:08,833 It was this beautiful second empire style house, 49 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,833 but upon entering the home, 50 00:03:11,917 --> 00:03:15,625 I was completely distracted by the piles of trash 51 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:19,833 and antiques that filled up all of the space, 52 00:03:19,917 --> 00:03:21,083 and in an odd way, 53 00:03:21,208 --> 00:03:23,750 it was still marvelous just to see the house 54 00:03:23,875 --> 00:03:24,958 hiding behind those things, 55 00:03:25,083 --> 00:03:28,250 because it really is a beautiful home. 56 00:03:32,208 --> 00:03:35,833 You have Eastlake Furniture, Louis XIV furniture, 57 00:03:35,958 --> 00:03:39,917 and possibly some Napoleonic furniture all mixed in, 58 00:03:40,042 --> 00:03:42,542 and piled over with tapestries. 59 00:03:42,708 --> 00:03:45,667 Paintings from famous artists, paintings from Bob himself, 60 00:03:45,792 --> 00:03:49,083 and there are textiles from the 16th century 61 00:03:49,208 --> 00:03:51,542 that have water damage. 62 00:03:51,667 --> 00:03:53,375 These are things that once they're gone, 63 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:55,542 we cannot replicate them. 64 00:03:56,958 --> 00:03:59,167 His kitchen is a horror zone. 65 00:03:59,292 --> 00:04:02,833 You walk in and there are mountains of trash. 66 00:04:02,917 --> 00:04:06,417 It's like 20 years of food waste and garbage. 67 00:04:07,833 --> 00:04:11,917 There is a crockpot in the kitchen, and upon looking at it, 68 00:04:12,042 --> 00:04:15,458 you just assume, okay, that's just rice, just sitting there, 69 00:04:15,542 --> 00:04:17,333 but it's not sitting there. 70 00:04:17,458 --> 00:04:20,333 It is moving around and squirming. 71 00:04:21,667 --> 00:04:25,167 - Now, I know his kitchen obviously is a disaster, 72 00:04:25,292 --> 00:04:27,167 and that, I'm sorry to see. 73 00:04:27,292 --> 00:04:29,625 (cat meows) 74 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:34,750 - We found a sleeping pad up in the primary bathroom 75 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:37,708 on the second floor where it appeared he had been sleeping, 76 00:04:37,875 --> 00:04:39,500 and it took him several months to admit to me 77 00:04:39,625 --> 00:04:43,292 that he was in fact sleeping in that bathroom. 78 00:04:43,375 --> 00:04:46,208 - I mean, he's got rooms, he had beds. 79 00:04:46,333 --> 00:04:48,333 What happened to the rooms with the beds? 80 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:52,500 Why is he sleeping on the floor in the bathroom? 81 00:04:59,167 --> 00:05:02,500 - Been working on this house since '71, 82 00:05:02,667 --> 00:05:04,625 and I'm still working on it. 83 00:05:04,708 --> 00:05:07,750 I painted everything on the ceilings. 84 00:05:09,750 --> 00:05:13,375 - Robert restored every room in that house. 85 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:16,750 That house is Robert Dielman's right arm. 86 00:05:16,875 --> 00:05:21,833 - I just lived for this house. I don't know why, but I did. 87 00:05:24,333 --> 00:05:27,333 - I'm Elizabeth and I'm a neighbor of Bob's. 88 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:31,417 I'm also a fine artist, photographer, sculptor, 89 00:05:31,542 --> 00:05:33,875 and a master gardener. 90 00:05:34,042 --> 00:05:38,042 Over the years, he's collected amazing antiques. 91 00:05:39,625 --> 00:05:42,042 Some of these antiques go all the way back 92 00:05:42,167 --> 00:05:46,792 to the former owners of the house that built the house. 93 00:05:48,833 --> 00:05:52,417 - Bob has a large collection of Louis XIV bisques, 94 00:05:52,542 --> 00:05:55,375 which are ceramic sculptures, that can be incredibly rare. 95 00:05:55,542 --> 00:05:58,042 Some of them can go for anywhere from $500 96 00:05:58,167 --> 00:06:00,583 to upwards of $20,000 a piece. 97 00:06:02,083 --> 00:06:04,708 If I had to estimate how much the antiques are worth, 98 00:06:04,833 --> 00:06:06,833 I would say somewhere between six to seven million 99 00:06:06,958 --> 00:06:10,708 for all of the Eastlake furniture, all of the bisques, 100 00:06:10,833 --> 00:06:13,500 the tapestries, the European artifacts, 101 00:06:13,625 --> 00:06:15,792 and the American antiques. 102 00:06:21,167 --> 00:06:22,792 - He's always finding something. 103 00:06:22,875 --> 00:06:24,833 He can't go anywhere without finding something 104 00:06:24,917 --> 00:06:25,958 that will work, you know. 105 00:06:28,417 --> 00:06:30,042 He feels like he's feeding the belly. 106 00:06:30,208 --> 00:06:31,542 He's not eating. 107 00:06:31,708 --> 00:06:34,458 The house is eating, and I mean, that sounds crazy, 108 00:06:34,542 --> 00:06:38,958 but these are things that belong there to him. 109 00:06:39,083 --> 00:06:41,375 - God, yes, I'm proud of it. 110 00:06:42,750 --> 00:06:47,500 I don't think anybody would ever take the time to do it. 111 00:06:48,375 --> 00:06:49,875 - About 30 to 40 years ago, 112 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,500 the house was listed as one of the top five homes 113 00:06:52,625 --> 00:06:54,000 in the St. Louis area, 114 00:06:54,167 --> 00:06:57,083 and it was open to the public one weekend per month 115 00:06:57,208 --> 00:06:58,583 for parlor tours. 116 00:06:58,708 --> 00:07:02,875 Now, our goal is to turn it into a proper house museum. 117 00:07:13,583 --> 00:07:15,000 - I'm Daulton, I'm Ken's spouse, 118 00:07:15,167 --> 00:07:16,625 and I'm good friends with Bob, 119 00:07:16,708 --> 00:07:20,167 and I would love to help him get his house cleaned out. 120 00:07:20,333 --> 00:07:22,458 We're trying to mentally prepare him. 121 00:07:22,542 --> 00:07:25,208 Hey, if you wanna open this as a museum, 122 00:07:25,333 --> 00:07:28,667 museums aren't cluttered floor to ceiling. 123 00:07:30,625 --> 00:07:32,333 - If it's to be open to the public as a house museum, 124 00:07:32,458 --> 00:07:33,833 it needs to be navigatable, 125 00:07:33,958 --> 00:07:36,833 and that is just simply not possible with more than half 126 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,833 of the stuff's still in the house. 127 00:07:47,208 --> 00:07:51,458 - I think I almost painted myself out of this house. 128 00:07:51,583 --> 00:07:53,750 There's so many paintings. 129 00:07:55,833 --> 00:07:58,542 - He paints daily if he can, 130 00:07:58,708 --> 00:08:01,375 and I'm always a little concerned that his paintings 131 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:03,125 are just everywhere. 132 00:08:05,917 --> 00:08:08,333 I think a really good estimate was probably done, 133 00:08:08,458 --> 00:08:10,667 maybe over 3,000 paintings. 134 00:08:13,542 --> 00:08:15,375 - My occupation was a lot of things, 135 00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:18,208 but I was mostly always an artist. 136 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:22,875 (bright music) 137 00:08:30,250 --> 00:08:34,625 Here's one, this is actual artwork that I did. 138 00:08:34,750 --> 00:08:36,542 I worked for Famous-Barr downtown 139 00:08:36,708 --> 00:08:41,125 in the advertising department, and I did women's fashions, 140 00:08:41,250 --> 00:08:43,375 men's fashion, shoes, bed, 141 00:08:43,542 --> 00:08:46,708 everything you can imagine, I drew. 142 00:08:46,833 --> 00:08:50,583 Men's sportswear, blazers, one for underwear. 143 00:08:52,167 --> 00:08:55,500 I loved it because every day I got to go in there 144 00:08:55,667 --> 00:08:58,583 and got to do artwork and create, 145 00:08:58,708 --> 00:09:02,792 and I couldn't wait to get up and go to work. 146 00:09:02,917 --> 00:09:04,708 I made my living off of it. 147 00:09:04,875 --> 00:09:07,750 I was able to buy all these antiques and stuff, 148 00:09:07,875 --> 00:09:11,292 so I think I was pretty good. 149 00:09:20,208 --> 00:09:24,333 For "Playboy," I did a lot of the illustrations, 150 00:09:24,458 --> 00:09:29,125 and from there Hugh Hefner got me jobs doing other things. 151 00:09:29,208 --> 00:09:31,833 I did murals in his mansion, 152 00:09:31,917 --> 00:09:36,083 and they were completely all naked women all over the place. 153 00:09:36,208 --> 00:09:40,792 I mean, he furnished the naked women, so I didn't care. 154 00:09:42,208 --> 00:09:45,333 - He introduced me to Vincent Price and then Vincent Price 155 00:09:45,458 --> 00:09:48,083 started buying artwork from me too. 156 00:09:50,208 --> 00:09:53,250 - So many of his paintings are in private collections 157 00:09:53,375 --> 00:09:54,792 because they were commissions, 158 00:09:54,875 --> 00:09:57,833 but most of his paintings are in his house, 159 00:09:57,958 --> 00:10:00,583 and he stipulated that he wants those paintings 160 00:10:00,708 --> 00:10:02,833 to remain in his house, 161 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,667 and that has always been a problem 162 00:10:04,750 --> 00:10:07,333 as where are we going to store his paintings? 163 00:10:07,417 --> 00:10:09,958 You're running out of room, Bob. 164 00:10:11,167 --> 00:10:13,708 - We recently documented a lot of his paintings 165 00:10:13,833 --> 00:10:16,000 and I ran them by an appraiser friend of mine. 166 00:10:16,125 --> 00:10:18,542 He estimated the value of his art collection 167 00:10:18,708 --> 00:10:21,583 to be around 2.8 million dollars. 168 00:10:24,375 --> 00:10:29,208 - That painting there is when I told my mother, I was gay. 169 00:10:29,375 --> 00:10:32,042 - It's a very private moment, 170 00:10:32,167 --> 00:10:36,917 and I think the way he treated it was just very elegant. 171 00:10:37,042 --> 00:10:41,000 - She had the expression on her face, "Oh my God." 172 00:10:41,083 --> 00:10:44,708 It was horrible growing up as a gay person. 173 00:10:46,333 --> 00:10:50,500 - I didn't find out that Robert was a gay man until after 174 00:10:50,583 --> 00:10:53,042 working at Famous-Barr for a while, 175 00:10:53,208 --> 00:10:54,708 and that's when I told him, I said, 176 00:10:54,875 --> 00:10:58,667 "Well, hell, I had a crush on you," and it was the truth. 177 00:10:58,750 --> 00:11:00,500 He is a good looking man. 178 00:11:00,583 --> 00:11:01,875 He had problems with his family, 179 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,167 so he was denied some kind of relationships there, 180 00:11:08,208 --> 00:11:10,333 and that could be part of the problem too. 181 00:11:10,417 --> 00:11:11,167 Who knows? 182 00:11:17,333 --> 00:11:20,500 - I met John in 1970. 183 00:11:21,500 --> 00:11:26,208 Eventually we wound up living together and then he started 184 00:11:26,333 --> 00:11:28,250 drinking and getting on drugs, 185 00:11:28,375 --> 00:11:30,792 and from there on he went downhill so bad, 186 00:11:30,875 --> 00:11:32,708 you wouldn't believe it. 187 00:11:32,833 --> 00:11:35,000 We had a joint bank account, 188 00:11:35,125 --> 00:11:40,625 and I found out later that he took all that money 189 00:11:40,750 --> 00:11:44,417 and he put it in banks all over the United States. 190 00:11:50,875 --> 00:11:52,875 He tried to poison me. 191 00:11:53,792 --> 00:11:56,167 He put antifreeze in my milk. 192 00:11:57,500 --> 00:12:00,208 He loosened all the bolts on my car. 193 00:12:01,208 --> 00:12:04,375 I mean, he pulled things left and right. 194 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:06,083 John also gave me... 195 00:12:10,083 --> 00:12:12,208 the AIDS. 196 00:12:14,458 --> 00:12:18,708 Thank God I was healthy enough and caught it right away, 197 00:12:18,833 --> 00:12:22,958 but then I had a nervous breakdown right after that. 198 00:12:23,083 --> 00:12:26,750 I would sit at my desk and tears would just come out. 199 00:12:26,875 --> 00:12:29,542 - That betrayal actually caused a lot of depression 200 00:12:29,708 --> 00:12:31,083 on Robert's part. 201 00:12:31,208 --> 00:12:34,708 It stuck with him over the years. 202 00:12:34,833 --> 00:12:36,875 - That's when I decided I'm going to make this house 203 00:12:37,042 --> 00:12:40,250 out to be the best museum in St. Louis. 204 00:12:43,042 --> 00:12:46,667 - He collected because it took the place of John. 205 00:12:46,792 --> 00:12:50,708 Robert started replacing John by buying things. 206 00:12:50,875 --> 00:12:53,625 The house became his obsession. 207 00:12:53,708 --> 00:12:57,083 The house became his life and his partner. 208 00:12:58,708 --> 00:13:02,750 - I love this house more than I think I ever loved anything. 209 00:13:02,875 --> 00:13:03,917 - In all possibility, 210 00:13:04,042 --> 00:13:07,000 that house became his partner for life. 211 00:13:13,583 --> 00:13:16,083 (gentle music) 212 00:13:18,375 --> 00:13:21,833 - He has had two strokes. He has had a heart attack. 213 00:13:21,958 --> 00:13:23,792 He was diagnosed with AIDS. 214 00:13:23,917 --> 00:13:25,833 He has overcome a lot in his life, 215 00:13:25,958 --> 00:13:30,083 but recently he was diagnosed with lung cancer. 216 00:13:30,208 --> 00:13:33,333 - [Bob] I found out two months ago that I've got lung cancer 217 00:13:33,458 --> 00:13:35,333 on my right side. 218 00:13:36,083 --> 00:13:39,417 I gotta live with it and do my best. 219 00:13:39,542 --> 00:13:41,083 - Bob is just a survivor. 220 00:13:41,208 --> 00:13:46,000 He's made it his goal to save his house, whatever it takes. 221 00:13:47,375 --> 00:13:51,417 To move out of the house would probably be the end of Bob. 222 00:14:05,625 --> 00:14:07,458 - [Ken] Bob has a unique case. 223 00:14:08,875 --> 00:14:11,000 He has acquired items of extreme providence 224 00:14:11,125 --> 00:14:12,958 and historical value. 225 00:14:14,917 --> 00:14:18,458 However, he has also acquired a ton of junk. 226 00:14:24,375 --> 00:14:28,667 It's this weird balance between being an educated collector 227 00:14:28,792 --> 00:14:32,417 and being a hoarder, and in Bob's case, 228 00:14:32,542 --> 00:14:35,083 those things just come together. 229 00:14:52,042 --> 00:14:53,375 - I'm Dr. Robin Zasio. 230 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:55,958 I'm a licensed clinical psychologist and I specialize 231 00:14:56,083 --> 00:14:59,250 in helping people struggling with hoarding behaviors. 232 00:14:59,375 --> 00:15:00,333 Hello. - Hello. 233 00:15:00,417 --> 00:15:02,542 - Hi, I'm Dr. Zasio. Are you Bob? 234 00:15:02,708 --> 00:15:03,875 - I'm Bob. 235 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,667 - Hi, Bob. It's very nice to meet you. 236 00:15:05,833 --> 00:15:09,292 - Well come on in. - Thank you very much. 237 00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:13,708 I see this beautiful Victorian house that is decorated 238 00:15:13,875 --> 00:15:15,167 and colorful. 239 00:15:15,250 --> 00:15:17,500 Tell me about this room, Bob. 240 00:15:17,625 --> 00:15:20,000 - This room is the living room. 241 00:15:25,917 --> 00:15:28,292 You've got a lot of stuff in here. 242 00:15:28,375 --> 00:15:32,708 - I do because it goes into other different rooms and stuff. 243 00:15:32,833 --> 00:15:34,167 It's just that it's not organized right. 244 00:15:34,333 --> 00:15:35,333 - Okay. 245 00:15:35,458 --> 00:15:37,583 So are you saying that everything in this room 246 00:15:37,708 --> 00:15:39,208 is going to stay? 247 00:15:39,375 --> 00:15:41,875 It's just gonna be redistributed to another room? 248 00:15:42,042 --> 00:15:43,042 - A lot of it. 249 00:15:43,208 --> 00:15:45,000 - A lot of it, okay. - Yes. 250 00:15:45,167 --> 00:15:48,833 Do the other rooms in the house look like this room? 251 00:15:48,958 --> 00:15:51,000 - The rooms are all like this. 252 00:15:51,125 --> 00:15:52,833 - One of my first questions for Bob, 253 00:15:52,958 --> 00:15:55,333 is how much of this stuff are we gonna get rid of? 254 00:15:55,458 --> 00:15:58,375 And he basically tells me "None of it." 255 00:15:58,542 --> 00:16:00,875 - This sofa here goes in the music room. 256 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,167 - Okay. 257 00:16:02,292 --> 00:16:04,750 - That sofa there goes up on the second floor 258 00:16:04,875 --> 00:16:06,250 with the two chairs. 259 00:16:06,375 --> 00:16:07,167 - Okay. 260 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:11,750 Now is the music room filled like this? 261 00:16:11,875 --> 00:16:13,000 - It's filled. 262 00:16:13,167 --> 00:16:15,333 - So then how does the sofa fit in there 263 00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:16,375 if it's already full? 264 00:16:16,542 --> 00:16:17,833 - Well, you wait until it's cleaned up, 265 00:16:17,917 --> 00:16:20,083 and you move it back then. 266 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:23,333 - I'm already very nervous because I don't think 267 00:16:23,458 --> 00:16:27,917 he has any intention of getting rid of anything. 268 00:16:28,042 --> 00:16:30,875 All right. Well, I'd like to see more of your house. 269 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:31,958 - Oh God. 270 00:16:33,167 --> 00:16:34,833 - I ask Bob to take me to the next room, 271 00:16:34,917 --> 00:16:36,000 which he says is the kitchen, 272 00:16:36,125 --> 00:16:38,000 and we walk through the dining room, 273 00:16:38,125 --> 00:16:41,500 which is covered in trash. 274 00:16:44,042 --> 00:16:46,667 And it gets progressively worse as we enter 275 00:16:46,792 --> 00:16:48,083 into the kitchen. 276 00:16:53,083 --> 00:16:55,208 This is probably five feet tall, 277 00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:59,083 and look at how much higher I am than this refrigerator, 278 00:16:59,208 --> 00:17:01,333 which means we are standing on... 279 00:17:01,458 --> 00:17:02,875 - I know...this is about two feet. 280 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,375 Of trash, - [Bob] Yes. 281 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,167 and food and bugs. 282 00:17:06,250 --> 00:17:08,292 - Yes, that's true. (Dr. Zasio sighs) 283 00:17:08,375 --> 00:17:11,167 - Out of the corner of my eye I see something moving, 284 00:17:11,292 --> 00:17:13,750 and it's inside of a crockpot. 285 00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:17,000 Bob? - [Bob] Yes? 286 00:17:17,167 --> 00:17:19,542 - That pot of rice is moving. 287 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,917 - [Bob] Huh? 288 00:17:25,042 --> 00:17:26,833 - The rice is moving. 289 00:17:26,958 --> 00:17:29,250 - I know there's bugs in there. 290 00:17:30,375 --> 00:17:31,792 - I think it's actually not rice. 291 00:17:31,875 --> 00:17:33,333 I think it's maggots. 292 00:17:33,417 --> 00:17:34,500 - Yeah, it is. 293 00:17:36,292 --> 00:17:39,500 That's why I got those papers up there. 294 00:17:41,042 --> 00:17:43,083 - There's fly strips that have been there for years 295 00:17:43,208 --> 00:17:46,250 that are covered in various insects. 296 00:17:47,333 --> 00:17:50,000 The odor is so strong in this room, 297 00:17:50,125 --> 00:17:52,333 I'm having difficulty focusing, 298 00:17:52,417 --> 00:17:56,875 but it's important for me to understand how this room 299 00:17:57,042 --> 00:17:58,417 got to be so bad. 300 00:18:01,417 --> 00:18:04,417 How about family? Do you have any family around? 301 00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:06,875 - I do, but I have nothing to do with 'em. 302 00:18:07,042 --> 00:18:08,042 - Okay, okay. 303 00:18:08,208 --> 00:18:11,375 Have you ever had a lifelong partner or? 304 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:16,333 - I had one, but he took advantage of me, too. 305 00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:17,292 - Oh, no. 306 00:18:18,375 --> 00:18:21,167 - Yes, he was stealing, he was on drugs. 307 00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:23,833 - He had a partner that he thought was gonna be lifelong, 308 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,708 who basically was abusive to him, took advantage of him. 309 00:18:27,833 --> 00:18:30,000 - He tried to kill me, I don't know how many times. 310 00:18:30,125 --> 00:18:32,333 - How did he try to kill you? 311 00:18:32,458 --> 00:18:35,000 - Putting antifreeze in my milk. 312 00:18:35,125 --> 00:18:36,792 - How did you find this stuff out? 313 00:18:36,875 --> 00:18:40,208 - The detectives down at city hall. 314 00:18:40,375 --> 00:18:43,708 They said if you find anything unusual, 315 00:18:43,875 --> 00:18:45,833 take it down there and they'll test it for me. 316 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 So I tested, that's what it was. 317 00:18:48,125 --> 00:18:51,625 - How did that affect you when this person 318 00:18:51,708 --> 00:18:54,500 you were living with was taking advantage of you? 319 00:18:54,625 --> 00:18:56,042 - I was shocked. - [Dr. Zasio] Mm hmm. 320 00:18:56,167 --> 00:18:57,625 I mean, 321 00:18:57,708 --> 00:19:01,000 I couldn't believe people would be that ornery and mean. 322 00:19:01,125 --> 00:19:03,708 - It's clear that Bob has been through a lot, 323 00:19:03,833 --> 00:19:07,125 and understandably suffered from an emotional breakdown 324 00:19:07,208 --> 00:19:08,875 and depression. 325 00:19:09,042 --> 00:19:09,958 - I was so depressed and everything, 326 00:19:10,042 --> 00:19:11,500 and I had a bad back, 327 00:19:11,625 --> 00:19:16,542 so I couldn't lift and I couldn't get anybody to help me. 328 00:19:16,708 --> 00:19:18,000 - I do have to say, 329 00:19:18,083 --> 00:19:22,500 I'm very glad we're here to help you because this is not... 330 00:19:23,292 --> 00:19:24,292 - [Bob] I know it. I know. 331 00:19:24,375 --> 00:19:26,583 - The way somebody should live. 332 00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:29,000 It's hard to know why he has this history 333 00:19:29,167 --> 00:19:30,833 of people taking advantage of him. 334 00:19:30,958 --> 00:19:32,333 I suspect in part, 335 00:19:32,458 --> 00:19:35,667 he's just a very nice guy and he's very trusting, 336 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:38,542 and he doesn't realize what he's gotten into 337 00:19:38,667 --> 00:19:40,875 until he's too deep. 338 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,083 Wow, all these, all this artwork. 339 00:19:45,208 --> 00:19:46,458 - It's mine. 340 00:19:46,583 --> 00:19:49,083 - You've painted all of this? 341 00:19:49,208 --> 00:19:50,708 - [Bob] Mm-hmm. - Wow. 342 00:19:50,833 --> 00:19:52,917 Bob takes me up the stairway to the second floor, 343 00:19:53,042 --> 00:19:59,083 and I am taken back by these magnificent pieces of work. 344 00:19:59,208 --> 00:20:00,917 - That's my mother and that's my father. 345 00:20:01,042 --> 00:20:02,292 - This is your mother? - [Bob] Mm hmm. 346 00:20:02,375 --> 00:20:03,167 Mother and father? 347 00:20:03,333 --> 00:20:05,042 - [Bob] Yes. - [Robin] Wow. 348 00:20:05,167 --> 00:20:07,208 - This is my great grandmother. 349 00:20:07,333 --> 00:20:08,167 - [Robin] You painted that too? 350 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:09,500 - [Bob] Sure. 351 00:20:09,625 --> 00:20:12,458 - We absolutely need to get this house in order, 352 00:20:12,542 --> 00:20:18,333 so that you can really honor all of this amazing stuff 353 00:20:18,458 --> 00:20:20,333 that you have in this house. 354 00:20:20,458 --> 00:20:22,667 Everywhere I look, there are these beautiful paintings, 355 00:20:22,833 --> 00:20:24,792 and I thought it was important to point out to Bob 356 00:20:24,917 --> 00:20:26,583 that we have to get this house cleaned out 357 00:20:26,708 --> 00:20:30,333 so that he can restore this beautiful home. 358 00:20:32,667 --> 00:20:34,542 This is the floor that you sleep on? 359 00:20:34,667 --> 00:20:38,292 - Yes, I sleep in the bathroom on the floor. 360 00:20:39,667 --> 00:20:41,333 - In the bathroom? - [Bob] Mm hmm. 361 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:42,333 Why? 362 00:20:43,625 --> 00:20:44,667 - 'Cause that was the only place I could sleep. 363 00:20:44,833 --> 00:20:47,833 I couldn't sleep in my original bedroom. 364 00:20:47,958 --> 00:20:49,458 - Let's take a look. 365 00:20:55,333 --> 00:20:57,167 So Bob, this is where you sleep? 366 00:20:57,333 --> 00:20:58,500 - Right there. 367 00:21:00,292 --> 00:21:01,875 - It was absolutely heartbreaking 368 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,625 to see where he was sleeping on the bathroom floor 369 00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:09,375 and the type of bed that he created for himself. 370 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:12,500 You don't wanna be living on the edge all the time, 371 00:21:12,625 --> 00:21:14,458 and this is living on the edge. 372 00:21:14,542 --> 00:21:16,500 There is a sense of danger in this home, 373 00:21:16,583 --> 00:21:17,542 - Mm hmm. 374 00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:22,958 trip hazard, fire hazard, health hazard. 375 00:21:23,083 --> 00:21:24,167 - [Bob] I know. 376 00:21:24,292 --> 00:21:27,000 - Do you have any health issues right now? 377 00:21:27,167 --> 00:21:30,375 - Oh, yes, I have lung cancer. 378 00:21:31,042 --> 00:21:31,792 - Okay. 379 00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:36,542 - They just diagnosed that about two months ago. 380 00:21:36,667 --> 00:21:38,333 - And so what does that mean for you, 381 00:21:38,458 --> 00:21:39,917 and your longevity? 382 00:21:41,333 --> 00:21:42,750 - That means I gotta do a lot of work, 383 00:21:42,875 --> 00:21:44,042 for a short time. 384 00:21:45,375 --> 00:21:46,792 - All right, Bob. 385 00:21:46,917 --> 00:21:51,083 The reality is that we have to get this house in order 386 00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:51,958 for you, - Right. 387 00:21:52,042 --> 00:21:53,792 for your mental health, 388 00:21:54,875 --> 00:21:57,208 as well as for your physical health, 389 00:21:57,375 --> 00:22:00,542 because we are in a crisis situation right now. 390 00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:01,958 - Okay. 391 00:22:02,042 --> 00:22:05,583 - It really scares me to think about him living in this home 392 00:22:05,708 --> 00:22:08,042 and something happening to him. 393 00:22:08,208 --> 00:22:12,750 So there are so many reasons why we have to help him 394 00:22:12,875 --> 00:22:15,917 get this house in order so that he can be safe 395 00:22:16,042 --> 00:22:19,833 and live out his remaining years comfortably. 396 00:22:26,250 --> 00:22:28,292 (dramatic music) 397 00:22:51,292 --> 00:22:52,333 - [Matt] Good morning everybody. 398 00:22:52,458 --> 00:22:53,542 - [All] Good morning. 399 00:22:53,667 --> 00:22:55,208 There's a lot of people. 400 00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:56,417 I'm Matt Paxton. 401 00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:58,208 I'm an extreme cleaning specialist. 402 00:22:58,333 --> 00:22:59,500 For a guy that's got no family, 403 00:22:59,625 --> 00:23:01,042 you got a lot of friends here. 404 00:23:01,167 --> 00:23:02,000 - I hope so. 405 00:23:03,208 --> 00:23:04,958 - [Ceil] He's my buddy. 406 00:23:05,792 --> 00:23:07,500 - What a pair. Bob and Ceil. 407 00:23:07,625 --> 00:23:10,292 I mean, they're a duo, man. 408 00:23:10,417 --> 00:23:13,000 - Listen kid, you're gonna be surprised. 409 00:23:13,167 --> 00:23:14,292 - Okay. 410 00:23:14,417 --> 00:23:16,500 - They're hilarious. Deep friends. 411 00:23:16,667 --> 00:23:19,583 50 years they've been friends. 412 00:23:19,708 --> 00:23:21,458 What are your goals for this week? 413 00:23:21,542 --> 00:23:23,000 What do you wanna have accomplished? 414 00:23:23,125 --> 00:23:27,125 - I want you guys to help me get back on my feet 415 00:23:28,375 --> 00:23:30,333 so I can really work again. 416 00:23:30,417 --> 00:23:32,167 - Okay. So that's the goal. Keep working. 417 00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:35,083 - Yeah, I still always wanna work. 418 00:23:35,208 --> 00:23:36,000 - Okay. 419 00:23:37,417 --> 00:23:38,667 Every hoarder tells you "I'm an artist. 420 00:23:38,833 --> 00:23:40,667 I want my house to be a museum." 421 00:23:40,792 --> 00:23:44,833 Bob's probably the first one that it actually could be. 422 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,792 He's hands down just unbelievable artist. 423 00:23:49,708 --> 00:23:51,375 They both have an agenda here. 424 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:54,000 Bob wants his house clean so he can make it a museum 425 00:23:54,167 --> 00:23:57,583 for a few people to come over and see his art. 426 00:23:57,708 --> 00:23:59,667 And Ceil wants the house to be cleaned up 427 00:23:59,792 --> 00:24:04,667 so Bob can have a life so that the world can see his art. 428 00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:07,625 Because you're so creative and you're such a good artist. 429 00:24:07,708 --> 00:24:09,167 I mean, you're an amazing artist, 430 00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:10,667 and like any good artist, 431 00:24:10,792 --> 00:24:13,333 everything in this yard has potential. 432 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,167 I mean, I'm literally standing on... 433 00:24:15,292 --> 00:24:16,375 - [Bob] My mosaic. 434 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:17,917 - On your mosaics. 435 00:24:18,042 --> 00:24:19,667 The rest of the world would say that's trash right? 436 00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:21,833 But for you, you'll actually turn it into really nice art. 437 00:24:21,958 --> 00:24:23,375 I know that. 438 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:26,375 The challenge is I gotta get rid of some stuff. 439 00:24:26,542 --> 00:24:27,250 - Yes. 440 00:24:27,375 --> 00:24:28,708 - To make space. 441 00:24:30,125 --> 00:24:32,167 I mean, you can't even get in the first two feet, 442 00:24:32,333 --> 00:24:33,667 I mean, the entryway... 443 00:24:33,833 --> 00:24:36,750 So there's a door, two feet, and then the front door, 444 00:24:36,875 --> 00:24:39,458 and the little two feet is hoarded. 445 00:24:39,542 --> 00:24:43,208 I mean, there's just no space, and it's really cute. 446 00:24:43,333 --> 00:24:44,542 It's really neat. It's very eclectic. 447 00:24:44,667 --> 00:24:45,875 I mean, the dude's got talent. 448 00:24:46,042 --> 00:24:47,000 He's prolific. 449 00:24:47,083 --> 00:24:48,958 I mean, just nonstop art everywhere you look, 450 00:24:49,042 --> 00:24:51,042 and you're going through it and it's beautiful. 451 00:24:51,167 --> 00:24:53,708 And then you get to the kitchen, 452 00:24:55,833 --> 00:24:57,875 and that's when you realize really how serious 453 00:24:58,042 --> 00:24:59,000 this hoard is. 454 00:25:00,917 --> 00:25:02,958 The kitchen is dangerous and nobody would want 455 00:25:03,042 --> 00:25:05,833 their loved one living in the bedroom situation 456 00:25:05,917 --> 00:25:07,625 you're in and the kitchen situation you're in. 457 00:25:07,708 --> 00:25:08,500 - Well, I wouldn't need either. 458 00:25:08,625 --> 00:25:10,292 I really tell you the truth. 459 00:25:10,375 --> 00:25:12,500 - Okay, Dr. Zasio, any thoughts? 460 00:25:12,583 --> 00:25:16,625 - Yeah, so my concern, and Matt, 461 00:25:16,708 --> 00:25:19,000 I don't know if you know this, but when I first met you, 462 00:25:19,125 --> 00:25:24,458 Bob, you told me that the goal was to clean your stuff, 463 00:25:24,583 --> 00:25:26,792 and then redistribute it. 464 00:25:26,917 --> 00:25:29,875 - Oh, that's the museum part. 465 00:25:30,042 --> 00:25:34,667 - Well, this whole house is a museum of some sort, okay? 466 00:25:34,750 --> 00:25:39,542 And I'm really concerned because we're not here to clean. 467 00:25:39,667 --> 00:25:41,000 We're not housekeepers. 468 00:25:41,125 --> 00:25:44,167 We're here to help you get rid of your stuff 469 00:25:44,250 --> 00:25:46,125 to make this house livable. 470 00:25:46,208 --> 00:25:47,375 - Right. 471 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:48,875 - Okay, so you are gonna have to make 472 00:25:49,042 --> 00:25:55,458 some super hard decisions about good, valuable stuff, 473 00:25:55,542 --> 00:25:59,000 that is going to need to go somewhere 474 00:25:59,167 --> 00:26:03,250 if you're going to make this house livable. 475 00:26:03,375 --> 00:26:05,333 - Oh, that's true. Sure. 476 00:26:05,458 --> 00:26:07,792 - Okay, so I'm glad to hear that, okay? 477 00:26:07,875 --> 00:26:11,000 And as Matt said, we have Steri-Clean here, 478 00:26:11,083 --> 00:26:13,333 and of course you have your friends 479 00:26:13,458 --> 00:26:16,167 who are pretty much like family now. 480 00:26:16,250 --> 00:26:20,167 So we have Ceil and Ceil's caretaker, Angela. 481 00:26:20,292 --> 00:26:22,417 We have Daulton, and we have Ken. 482 00:26:22,542 --> 00:26:24,958 And I'm actually gonna start with you Ceil, 483 00:26:25,042 --> 00:26:28,625 to see how you are feeling about what's to come. 484 00:26:28,750 --> 00:26:32,167 - I am so pleased that this is happening for Robert. 485 00:26:32,292 --> 00:26:35,458 I've loved his paintings since the first day I met him 486 00:26:35,583 --> 00:26:37,875 and I told him I wanted to be his patron, 487 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,667 and that was the God's honest truth. 488 00:26:39,792 --> 00:26:43,000 I said, "If I had the money, you wouldn't be working here. 489 00:26:43,167 --> 00:26:45,792 You'd be working for me," and I meant it. 490 00:26:45,875 --> 00:26:46,958 - We're here because you're an artist 491 00:26:47,083 --> 00:26:50,292 and we're stuck because you're an artist, right? 492 00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:51,583 - Yeah. 493 00:26:51,708 --> 00:26:54,667 - So I think today my goal is the kitchen 494 00:26:54,750 --> 00:26:57,167 and the front hallway and some of the yard, 495 00:26:57,333 --> 00:26:58,625 to give us some space to clean. - Oh that... 496 00:26:58,750 --> 00:27:00,083 I'd love to get that done today. 497 00:27:00,208 --> 00:27:01,333 And then we'll have the auctioneer come 498 00:27:01,458 --> 00:27:03,167 and look at all of your art. 499 00:27:03,292 --> 00:27:04,833 I think this is like any good masterpiece. 500 00:27:04,958 --> 00:27:07,167 We're not really sure how it's gonna turn out. 501 00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:11,625 I hope this clean out is beautiful when we're done. Okay? 502 00:27:11,708 --> 00:27:12,708 - Let's go. - All right. 503 00:27:12,875 --> 00:27:15,208 - All right. - You guys ready? 504 00:27:26,875 --> 00:27:28,167 Yeah, all the way up the steps. 505 00:27:28,333 --> 00:27:30,167 It's all cat food. 506 00:27:30,292 --> 00:27:33,417 So all of this will go. Let's just pull this out. 507 00:27:33,542 --> 00:27:34,625 Open that door and go. 508 00:27:34,708 --> 00:27:36,417 This is a new one for me. 509 00:27:36,542 --> 00:27:38,000 We started cleaning out the back door, 510 00:27:38,125 --> 00:27:42,417 and it was a big pile of cat food boxes and tins. 511 00:27:42,542 --> 00:27:43,500 We cleaned for about five minutes, 512 00:27:43,667 --> 00:27:45,500 and got to the bottom of the door, 513 00:27:45,583 --> 00:27:47,750 and realized it was a window. 514 00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:49,250 Is that a window? Where's the door? 515 00:27:49,375 --> 00:27:50,542 That's a window. This is the door. 516 00:27:50,708 --> 00:27:51,625 Okay. 517 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,167 Door opened right up and we were able to get the team in, 518 00:27:55,292 --> 00:27:56,333 and they just started cleaning everything out 519 00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:58,125 as fast as we could. 520 00:28:05,375 --> 00:28:08,792 (dramatic music) 521 00:28:18,167 --> 00:28:21,667 - How did that kitchen get so messy, Robert? 522 00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:23,167 - It was very easy. 523 00:28:23,333 --> 00:28:25,792 (both laugh) 524 00:28:27,417 --> 00:28:28,333 - [Ceil] Now see if I'd been here, 525 00:28:28,458 --> 00:28:30,000 you'd had that kitchen clean. 526 00:28:30,125 --> 00:28:32,500 - I know I would. - Cause I would... 527 00:28:32,583 --> 00:28:34,583 You wouldn't have ever let me do it. 528 00:28:34,708 --> 00:28:36,667 (cans clanging) 529 00:28:45,375 --> 00:28:46,875 - [Matt] I'm gonna follow you through the kitchen. 530 00:28:47,042 --> 00:28:48,833 - [Daulton] Oh, that smell. - Yeah. 531 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,250 - The smell is, it's there. 532 00:28:50,375 --> 00:28:51,167 (Ken retches) 533 00:28:51,250 --> 00:28:52,875 - [Ken] Oh God. - [Daulton] Yeah. 534 00:28:53,042 --> 00:28:55,042 - [Daulton] He's got a queasy stomach, so. 535 00:28:55,208 --> 00:28:56,167 - [Matt] Oh okay, well then this is gonna be fun. 536 00:28:56,292 --> 00:28:57,625 - [Ken] Oh God. 537 00:28:57,750 --> 00:29:00,167 - [Daulton] He may need to go out. 538 00:29:00,292 --> 00:29:01,167 You gonna make it or no? 539 00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:04,000 - [Ken] Oh the smell is overwhelming. 540 00:29:04,125 --> 00:29:05,500 Yeah, no I need to see that stuff. 541 00:29:05,583 --> 00:29:08,208 - [Matt] If you need to not go in there, tell me, okay? 542 00:29:08,333 --> 00:29:09,833 - [Ken] We will push on. - [Matt] Alright. 543 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,167 We need to see how bad this is. 544 00:29:11,292 --> 00:29:12,500 - [Daulton] I got a stronger stomach than him. 545 00:29:12,667 --> 00:29:14,667 - [Matt] Yeah. So I'll definitely see it. 546 00:29:14,833 --> 00:29:17,125 - Ken and Daulton are the executors of this trust, 547 00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:20,208 and it's important that they actually see how Bob is living, 548 00:29:20,375 --> 00:29:23,375 because they are actually legally responsible for him. 549 00:29:23,542 --> 00:29:25,125 All right. 550 00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:27,000 They paused for a second just so we can come in and see it. 551 00:29:27,167 --> 00:29:27,750 (Ken retches) 552 00:29:27,875 --> 00:29:30,000 - [Ken] I can't. I can't. 553 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,958 - [Matt] Ken lasted about five seconds. 554 00:29:33,083 --> 00:29:36,583 He ran past me, actually more elevated past me. 555 00:29:36,708 --> 00:29:38,333 He just took off. 556 00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:39,958 - [Ken] It smells terrible. 557 00:29:40,042 --> 00:29:41,375 - [Daulton] Yeah, no, you wanna keep going outta the house? 558 00:29:41,542 --> 00:29:44,833 - [Ken] I've never smelled anything that bad. Oh my God. 559 00:29:44,958 --> 00:29:48,333 - [Daulton] I will hold my breath. 560 00:29:48,458 --> 00:29:49,750 I shouldn't laugh. 561 00:29:49,875 --> 00:29:51,958 - [Ken] My stomach. I just started retching. 562 00:29:52,083 --> 00:29:56,625 There were so many bugs and mold and God knows what, 563 00:29:56,708 --> 00:29:58,125 just everywhere. 564 00:29:59,125 --> 00:30:00,958 Once the surface has been moved 565 00:30:01,083 --> 00:30:03,000 and you can see what's under it, 566 00:30:03,125 --> 00:30:05,542 the garbage that's probably 10 or 20 years old. 567 00:30:05,667 --> 00:30:10,083 It just hit me that this is a much, much worse situation, 568 00:30:10,208 --> 00:30:13,000 than I ever imagined it would be. 569 00:30:25,917 --> 00:30:27,417 (people chattering) 570 00:30:27,542 --> 00:30:30,375 (cans clanking) 571 00:30:57,542 --> 00:30:59,000 - [Matt] I don't know if that's maggots or rice. 572 00:30:59,083 --> 00:31:00,667 - [Daulton] Ew. That looks like maggots. 573 00:31:00,833 --> 00:31:02,208 - Oh, it's maggots. 574 00:31:02,333 --> 00:31:03,667 - [Daulton] That's for sure, man. That is not rice. 575 00:31:03,792 --> 00:31:05,500 - That rice is moving. 576 00:31:07,417 --> 00:31:09,708 - [Daulton] Dr. Zasio was not exaggerating. 577 00:31:09,875 --> 00:31:11,500 - No, that's pretty rough. 578 00:31:11,667 --> 00:31:13,083 - [Daulton] Oh my. 579 00:31:13,208 --> 00:31:16,792 - [Matt] This is not lazy. This is not doable by yourself. 580 00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:17,833 - [Daulton] Mm hmm. No, not at all. 581 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,667 - It's pretty thick. It's dense. 582 00:31:20,833 --> 00:31:21,833 - [Daulton] It's a foot of trash. 583 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,167 - It's a foot. Yeah. 584 00:31:23,250 --> 00:31:24,375 We're standing on a foot of trash, 585 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:28,167 and years and years and years of depression, 586 00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:30,250 and that's what this is. - Mm hmm. 587 00:31:35,292 --> 00:31:36,333 You know, I didn't really understand 588 00:31:36,417 --> 00:31:37,750 till we got back outside, 589 00:31:37,875 --> 00:31:39,750 and I could see it in Ken's eyes. 590 00:31:39,875 --> 00:31:42,833 I mean, he was truly concerned for Bob. 591 00:31:42,917 --> 00:31:45,042 - He's been living this way for so long. 592 00:31:45,167 --> 00:31:47,125 And it's... - Yeah. 593 00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:48,167 - He's such a crazy person. 594 00:31:48,292 --> 00:31:49,458 - You're having the normal reaction. 595 00:31:49,583 --> 00:31:52,000 Bob doesn't feel that way. 596 00:31:52,083 --> 00:31:54,792 Ken really cares about Bob, 597 00:31:54,875 --> 00:31:57,708 and what I'm happy about is that you could see 598 00:31:57,833 --> 00:31:59,667 how much it actually bothered Ken. 599 00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:00,875 And so that actually means hey, 600 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,167 he really does care about Bob. 601 00:32:03,333 --> 00:32:05,000 - I had seen it before they started cleaning, 602 00:32:05,167 --> 00:32:07,625 and the smell wasn't as bad, 603 00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:09,417 but once they took off that top layer 604 00:32:09,542 --> 00:32:12,333 and I could see the garbage that was 10 and 20 years old, 605 00:32:12,458 --> 00:32:15,958 I can't believe you live this way. 606 00:32:16,083 --> 00:32:17,708 This breaks my heart for you. 607 00:32:17,875 --> 00:32:19,333 - Don't do that to me. 608 00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,042 - No, Bob, I care about you and I look up to you, 609 00:32:22,208 --> 00:32:24,875 and I want you to have a peaceful life. 610 00:32:25,042 --> 00:32:27,708 And this is not peaceful this is, 611 00:32:27,875 --> 00:32:29,375 this needs to change. 612 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:31,167 - I know, I know that. 613 00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:33,083 - He flat said to him, he's like 614 00:32:33,208 --> 00:32:34,833 "Look, man, you can't live like this. 615 00:32:34,958 --> 00:32:36,000 We can't let you live in a space like this. 616 00:32:36,125 --> 00:32:37,500 We gotta do more." 617 00:32:37,667 --> 00:32:40,917 - Bob, I've promised you that I'm going to help you 618 00:32:41,042 --> 00:32:42,500 save this house. 619 00:32:42,667 --> 00:32:47,500 We've agreed to take on the house museum, but right now, 620 00:32:47,667 --> 00:32:51,250 I need the focus to be on saving you from this situation. 621 00:32:51,375 --> 00:32:52,625 - Hmm? 622 00:32:52,750 --> 00:32:55,542 - He's just concerned that this will fail. This is a lot. 623 00:32:55,708 --> 00:32:57,833 He's realizing, I think seeing the kitchen 624 00:32:57,958 --> 00:33:00,083 is really overwhelming to realize, 625 00:33:00,208 --> 00:33:02,042 I don't think he understood how bad 626 00:33:02,167 --> 00:33:03,500 the living condition was. 627 00:33:03,583 --> 00:33:08,417 He doesn't want you to stay in this living condition. 628 00:33:08,542 --> 00:33:11,000 - Now, I want you to know that I can take care of myself. 629 00:33:11,125 --> 00:33:12,583 I can cook for myself. I can clean. 630 00:33:12,708 --> 00:33:14,583 I've done it all my life. 631 00:33:16,167 --> 00:33:19,083 I went through strokes. I went through mental breakdowns. 632 00:33:19,208 --> 00:33:21,875 - Hold one second. Let's update Dr. Zasio. 633 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000 So I just took Ken and Daulton inside, 634 00:33:24,125 --> 00:33:25,958 and I don't think Ken really understood 635 00:33:26,083 --> 00:33:28,458 how bad the situation was. 636 00:33:28,542 --> 00:33:30,250 - I want to save this house as a museum, 637 00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:32,500 but we need to save Bob from it first. 638 00:33:32,625 --> 00:33:34,500 - [Dr. Zasio] Mm hmm. And if this isn't successful, 639 00:33:34,625 --> 00:33:37,875 we're gonna have to find a different living arrangement. 640 00:33:38,042 --> 00:33:41,167 I'm sorry, I'm overwhelmed right now. 641 00:33:41,250 --> 00:33:42,042 - [Dr. Zasio] Yeah, yeah. - [Matt] It is overwhelming. 642 00:33:42,208 --> 00:33:43,625 - It is overwhelming. 643 00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:45,667 - I'm just, I'm concerned for his safety in there. 644 00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:50,500 It's disgusting. I don't want him to live like this. 645 00:33:51,208 --> 00:33:52,708 - In the very beginning, 646 00:33:52,833 --> 00:33:55,417 Ken mentioned that his whole goal was to get this house 647 00:33:55,542 --> 00:33:57,333 into museum shape, 648 00:33:57,458 --> 00:34:00,458 that they want to get this house restored. 649 00:34:00,542 --> 00:34:03,083 At this point, I think his focus has changed, 650 00:34:03,208 --> 00:34:05,417 and he's more concerned about getting the house 651 00:34:05,542 --> 00:34:06,750 in shape for Bob. 652 00:34:08,375 --> 00:34:10,917 There's gonna be so much involved in moving forward, 653 00:34:11,042 --> 00:34:13,000 and I'm so glad that you're here. 654 00:34:13,125 --> 00:34:17,292 It really was a miracle from God that you were able 655 00:34:17,417 --> 00:34:19,208 to become friends with Bob, 656 00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:22,667 because I think that if it wasn't for you, 657 00:34:24,167 --> 00:34:27,167 that he would've died in this hoard. 658 00:34:28,250 --> 00:34:29,417 Because some of the things, Bob, 659 00:34:29,542 --> 00:34:33,292 that you did tell me is that the condition, 660 00:34:33,417 --> 00:34:35,125 specifically of the kitchen, 661 00:34:35,208 --> 00:34:38,750 was caused by a mental breakdown, 662 00:34:38,875 --> 00:34:41,583 and a very, very severe depression. 663 00:34:43,042 --> 00:34:44,833 And while I have worked, 664 00:34:44,958 --> 00:34:48,333 25 years with people who are depressed, 665 00:34:48,417 --> 00:34:52,708 it's not typical that you go into this type of state, 666 00:34:52,833 --> 00:34:55,042 but essentially he gave up. 667 00:34:56,042 --> 00:34:58,583 (Bob sobs) - [Dr. Zasio] Can I? Can I? 668 00:35:11,167 --> 00:35:12,167 - I'm sorry. 669 00:35:12,292 --> 00:35:13,208 - [Matt] It's okay. 670 00:35:13,333 --> 00:35:15,833 - No, I haven't let it out yet. 671 00:35:18,958 --> 00:35:20,292 - I'm just gonna ask if I could have 672 00:35:20,375 --> 00:35:23,000 a little bit of time with you Bob alone. 673 00:35:23,125 --> 00:35:24,000 - Sure. 674 00:35:24,125 --> 00:35:24,667 - [Robin] Would that be okay? 675 00:35:24,792 --> 00:35:25,625 - Yes. 676 00:35:26,917 --> 00:35:28,333 - Bob is starting to sob, 677 00:35:28,417 --> 00:35:32,417 and it's primarily because all the memories of his trauma 678 00:35:32,542 --> 00:35:34,542 and his depression is starting to come up. 679 00:35:34,708 --> 00:35:36,958 I hope with that and the cleanup, 680 00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:38,542 it's not too much for him. 681 00:35:43,042 --> 00:35:44,750 (dramatic music) 682 00:35:56,667 --> 00:35:58,875 - [Robin] What's coming up for you? 683 00:35:59,042 --> 00:36:02,042 - Well, I've held it back for so long, 684 00:36:02,167 --> 00:36:04,500 you know, 685 00:36:04,625 --> 00:36:08,000 and I had nobody to talk to, anything else, 686 00:36:08,083 --> 00:36:09,500 what's going on? 687 00:36:10,875 --> 00:36:13,167 So I just held it in. 688 00:36:13,250 --> 00:36:15,542 - Did it start with John? 689 00:36:15,708 --> 00:36:16,417 - Yes. 690 00:36:17,167 --> 00:36:18,583 - I mean, - [Bob] Yes. 691 00:36:18,708 --> 00:36:22,833 he stole from you, he tried to kill you. 692 00:36:22,958 --> 00:36:24,167 - Yes. 693 00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:28,125 - That alone had to be extremely painful. 694 00:36:28,458 --> 00:36:29,833 - It was. 695 00:36:29,958 --> 00:36:32,333 - What happened after John left? 696 00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:37,833 - Well, I met other people, 697 00:36:37,917 --> 00:36:41,583 and they started taking advantage of me too. 698 00:36:42,792 --> 00:36:46,875 - There is this sense when I look at the home, 699 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,875 and especially that kitchen that you had given up. 700 00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:52,250 - I did. 701 00:36:52,375 --> 00:36:53,750 I said, "There's no hope. 702 00:36:53,875 --> 00:36:56,792 Somebody's just gonna come in here and sell everything 703 00:36:56,875 --> 00:36:59,000 and I'm gonna lose it." 704 00:36:59,125 --> 00:37:02,833 - Bob is a very emotional man who's been holding in a lot 705 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,458 of stuff for a very long time. 706 00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:09,958 The conditions that you've been living in do not represent 707 00:37:10,042 --> 00:37:11,958 who you are. 708 00:37:12,042 --> 00:37:13,167 - No. 709 00:37:13,292 --> 00:37:15,208 - And what you deserve in life, Bob. 710 00:37:15,375 --> 00:37:16,667 - That's right. 711 00:37:16,792 --> 00:37:20,417 - And it sounds like you were taken out so quickly 712 00:37:20,542 --> 00:37:25,333 with the depression that there was really no chance of you 713 00:37:25,458 --> 00:37:27,958 seeing that maybe you could go get therapy, 714 00:37:28,042 --> 00:37:30,458 maybe medication, get some support. 715 00:37:31,208 --> 00:37:32,417 None of that. 716 00:37:32,542 --> 00:37:34,417 - No, I didn't think I'd get it anyway, 717 00:37:34,542 --> 00:37:36,167 so I just didn't do it. 718 00:37:36,250 --> 00:37:38,500 - Did you think you were gonna die? 719 00:37:38,667 --> 00:37:43,250 - Yes, in a way I said, "If I keep doing this, I will." 720 00:37:45,375 --> 00:37:51,708 - Bob, it is your time to shine. It really is. 721 00:37:51,833 --> 00:37:55,500 Look at all of these people who have come to help you, 722 00:37:55,625 --> 00:37:59,500 taking trash can after trash can of stuff out, 723 00:37:59,583 --> 00:38:01,417 that you do don't need, 724 00:38:01,542 --> 00:38:03,958 that you do not need because it's garbage. 725 00:38:04,083 --> 00:38:05,542 Right? 726 00:38:05,667 --> 00:38:07,708 And you don't need to live in garbage. 727 00:38:07,833 --> 00:38:10,625 So, with what you've seen so far, 728 00:38:10,750 --> 00:38:12,583 do you feel good about what's happened? 729 00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:16,000 - I'm not even paying any attention. 730 00:38:16,083 --> 00:38:18,042 - Well, we know there's about 15 people in your house, 731 00:38:18,167 --> 00:38:21,000 bringing out garbage, so you feel good about that, right? 732 00:38:21,167 --> 00:38:22,250 - I'm just not looking. 733 00:38:22,375 --> 00:38:24,125 (both laugh) 734 00:38:24,208 --> 00:38:26,958 - All right. All right. I'm here for you. 735 00:38:27,042 --> 00:38:28,000 - I know you are. 736 00:38:28,083 --> 00:38:29,542 - Yeah. 737 00:38:29,708 --> 00:38:30,667 And I'm glad that you're starting to let things out, 738 00:38:30,792 --> 00:38:34,000 because that's what this process is about. 739 00:38:34,125 --> 00:38:34,958 Okay? 740 00:39:01,458 --> 00:39:03,292 - So we're gonna be walking things past you 741 00:39:03,375 --> 00:39:04,542 here on the table, 742 00:39:04,667 --> 00:39:06,042 and Abagael and the guys are gonna help you 743 00:39:06,167 --> 00:39:07,583 make some choices. 744 00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:09,542 - I'm willing to give up some of this. 745 00:39:09,667 --> 00:39:10,875 - You're ready to go? 746 00:39:11,042 --> 00:39:11,750 - Yes. 747 00:39:12,958 --> 00:39:14,792 - Now I think food is the toss. Is that right? 748 00:39:14,917 --> 00:39:17,333 - I've never used it. No. Go ahead. 749 00:39:17,458 --> 00:39:20,625 Throw it away. You can throw that away. 750 00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:23,375 Save that one. 751 00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:25,250 You can throw that one away. 752 00:39:25,375 --> 00:39:27,292 Sell, I'm gonna sell those. 753 00:39:27,375 --> 00:39:28,875 - [Abagael] Sell 'em? 754 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,500 Here. I can take some. 755 00:39:30,625 --> 00:39:33,167 - I really hope this turns out to be a success story, 756 00:39:33,250 --> 00:39:37,750 and I think it can be, but it's going to be up to Bob. 757 00:39:39,583 --> 00:39:41,000 - I don't need that. 758 00:39:41,125 --> 00:39:43,417 - He's going to have to knuckle down and make thousands 759 00:39:43,542 --> 00:39:45,000 and thousands of decisions, 760 00:39:45,125 --> 00:39:50,042 because at least 60% of this stuff is gonna have to go. 761 00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:52,417 - Bob, I think this is kind of gross. 762 00:39:52,542 --> 00:39:53,792 I don't know that it's worth cleaning up. 763 00:39:53,875 --> 00:39:56,583 It's very beautiful how you've created it, 764 00:39:56,708 --> 00:39:59,625 but it's covered in cat and mouse poop, 765 00:39:59,708 --> 00:40:03,375 and it has a very strong smell to it, once again. 766 00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:05,167 - [Abagael] This is really contaminated. 767 00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:06,625 - Okay, go ahead. 768 00:40:06,708 --> 00:40:08,292 - [Abagael] Okay, I'm sorry. 769 00:40:08,417 --> 00:40:09,250 - How are we doing? 770 00:40:09,375 --> 00:40:10,958 - Well, how are you doing? 771 00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:13,000 - Yeah, how are you doing personally, first? 772 00:40:13,125 --> 00:40:14,167 - Well, I have to think so much. 773 00:40:14,250 --> 00:40:16,000 I haven't had time to think. 774 00:40:16,083 --> 00:40:17,167 - Okay. 775 00:40:17,333 --> 00:40:18,958 - So that's our keep right here. 776 00:40:19,042 --> 00:40:20,458 - Oh, okay. 777 00:40:20,542 --> 00:40:23,583 That's it. Okay, Well, we're doing all right then. 778 00:40:23,708 --> 00:40:25,958 I mean, the dumpster's almost half full. 779 00:40:26,042 --> 00:40:28,375 That's good. We just need four more of those. 780 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:29,917 We'll be all right. 781 00:40:30,042 --> 00:40:30,708 A, B, or C? 782 00:40:30,875 --> 00:40:32,333 What's he get on this last hour? 783 00:40:32,458 --> 00:40:34,375 - I'm giving him an A. - All right. 784 00:40:34,542 --> 00:40:35,500 - The same, yeah. 785 00:40:35,625 --> 00:40:36,833 - A plus. - A plus. 786 00:40:36,958 --> 00:40:37,958 - Woo. 787 00:40:38,042 --> 00:40:39,458 - What would you give yourself A, B, or C? 788 00:40:39,542 --> 00:40:40,792 - I have no idea. 789 00:40:40,875 --> 00:40:42,667 - Okay, well, everybody else said you did good. 790 00:40:42,792 --> 00:40:45,375 Believe it or not, I think it was a good first day. 791 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:46,917 I think let's wrap it up and call it a day, 792 00:40:47,042 --> 00:40:48,833 and we'll get back tomorrow and start over again 793 00:40:48,917 --> 00:40:49,958 in the morning. 794 00:41:01,875 --> 00:41:04,583 (trash clatters) 795 00:41:10,125 --> 00:41:11,542 - [Matt] All right. 796 00:41:11,708 --> 00:41:13,125 This is the place I identify that has a lot of opportunity 797 00:41:13,208 --> 00:41:15,250 for us to make some space. 798 00:41:15,375 --> 00:41:16,333 - [Bob] Mm-hmm. 799 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:18,167 - [Matt] What can go in here? 800 00:41:18,333 --> 00:41:19,625 - What can go? 801 00:41:19,708 --> 00:41:20,875 Oh, but that's what I'm gonna do the clothes first. 802 00:41:21,042 --> 00:41:21,958 - Clothes. 803 00:41:22,083 --> 00:41:23,458 Well and I'm realizing now, paint... 804 00:41:23,542 --> 00:41:25,833 - Now, this is the porch paint. - Okay. 805 00:41:25,958 --> 00:41:27,917 This is the front of the house. 806 00:41:28,042 --> 00:41:29,167 - Yeah. 807 00:41:29,333 --> 00:41:30,417 - [Bob] So, yes. 808 00:41:30,542 --> 00:41:33,542 - The new cans I would like to save. 809 00:41:33,667 --> 00:41:35,958 Today we really need to focus on space. 810 00:41:36,083 --> 00:41:37,500 Bob has a lot of goals for this house. 811 00:41:37,625 --> 00:41:39,417 He wants it to be a museum. 812 00:41:39,542 --> 00:41:41,333 He wants it to be a lot of things, but for us, 813 00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:43,333 we just need it to be a safe home for Bob. 814 00:41:43,458 --> 00:41:44,583 And to do that, 815 00:41:44,708 --> 00:41:46,083 we gotta get a lot of the volume outta here. 816 00:41:46,208 --> 00:41:49,667 And the only way to do that is to really get all the trash 817 00:41:49,792 --> 00:41:50,875 out of the basement. 818 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,625 There is a ton of trash in the basement. 819 00:41:53,708 --> 00:41:55,958 And if I can get Bob to agree very quickly 820 00:41:56,083 --> 00:41:57,917 to get rid of this stuff, 821 00:41:58,042 --> 00:41:59,542 then we should be able to make enough space 822 00:41:59,667 --> 00:42:01,708 to get all the stuff he's not sure about upstairs 823 00:42:01,833 --> 00:42:04,000 and store it down in the basement. 824 00:42:04,125 --> 00:42:06,500 - This can be thrown away. This can be thrown away. 825 00:42:06,625 --> 00:42:11,250 This can be thrown away. This can be thrown away. 826 00:42:11,375 --> 00:42:13,208 This can be thrown away. 827 00:42:14,792 --> 00:42:17,125 - Nice, so you're doing good pace on this actually. 828 00:42:17,208 --> 00:42:18,292 - That can go. 829 00:42:28,417 --> 00:42:31,125 - Ken, I know you have an eye probably for how this room 830 00:42:31,250 --> 00:42:32,208 should be set up. 831 00:42:32,333 --> 00:42:34,500 Do you envision all the furniture that's in here 832 00:42:34,667 --> 00:42:35,792 fitting in here? 833 00:42:35,875 --> 00:42:38,167 - There's too much furniture in this space. 834 00:42:38,333 --> 00:42:42,458 I think two sofas on either side of the fireplace. 835 00:42:42,542 --> 00:42:44,333 One chair in each window. 836 00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:48,333 - So if we had two sofas and two chairs, 837 00:42:48,417 --> 00:42:49,542 - [Bob] Mm hmm. 838 00:42:49,667 --> 00:42:50,750 what do we do with the other furniture? 839 00:42:50,875 --> 00:42:51,500 - Well, I'll tell you what. 840 00:42:51,667 --> 00:42:52,417 See that? 841 00:42:52,542 --> 00:42:53,792 - [Katherine] Yes. 842 00:42:53,875 --> 00:42:54,958 - That with the marble top - Mm hmm. 843 00:42:55,042 --> 00:42:57,375 that goes right there in the dining room. 844 00:42:57,542 --> 00:42:58,708 - Right. 845 00:42:58,833 --> 00:43:01,167 So you see the challenge because the dining room 846 00:43:01,250 --> 00:43:02,875 is also full. 847 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,583 - [Bob] Right, every room is full. 848 00:43:04,708 --> 00:43:06,167 - So, right. 849 00:43:06,292 --> 00:43:11,667 So do you have any thoughts on what could permanently exit? 850 00:43:12,542 --> 00:43:13,708 - Permanently? 851 00:43:13,875 --> 00:43:16,000 - Permanently leave the home? 852 00:43:16,167 --> 00:43:17,250 Any thoughts? 853 00:43:17,375 --> 00:43:20,375 - Oh God. I have to go through it. 854 00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:21,667 - As I was challenging Bob in the room 855 00:43:21,792 --> 00:43:24,833 as to what he could eliminate, 856 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,667 the only solution he had was to move things to rooms 857 00:43:27,792 --> 00:43:28,958 that were already cluttered. 858 00:43:29,042 --> 00:43:31,667 So you have no desire to let go 859 00:43:31,792 --> 00:43:33,750 of any of the large pieces in here? 860 00:43:33,875 --> 00:43:35,667 - [Bob] No. - [Katherine] Okay. 861 00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:37,083 - We're running out of time, 862 00:43:37,208 --> 00:43:40,375 so we need to get some of the other things outta the house 863 00:43:40,542 --> 00:43:42,542 and then we can rearrange it later. 864 00:43:42,667 --> 00:43:43,958 - You mean get rid of them? 865 00:43:44,042 --> 00:43:46,125 - Some of 'em, Yes. Yes. - Okay. 866 00:43:47,708 --> 00:43:50,625 - Is that where it gets a little too real? 867 00:43:50,750 --> 00:43:51,875 - Yes because, - Yeah. 868 00:43:53,417 --> 00:43:58,417 I don't want it to disappear because I'll never get it back. 869 00:43:59,042 --> 00:44:01,250 - It does feel like we're going in circles with Bob, 870 00:44:01,375 --> 00:44:05,500 because these are valuable items that fit the period 871 00:44:05,583 --> 00:44:07,250 of this house. 872 00:44:08,042 --> 00:44:10,625 So it's hard to argue about throwing these things 873 00:44:10,708 --> 00:44:12,000 in the trash. 874 00:44:12,125 --> 00:44:15,500 So ultimately we still don't have a solution. 875 00:44:15,583 --> 00:44:17,500 - Robert, Robert. - What? 876 00:44:17,625 --> 00:44:19,167 - [Ceil] What am I gonna do with you? 877 00:44:19,292 --> 00:44:20,042 - Nothing. 878 00:44:21,417 --> 00:44:23,833 - Keep one set here, the other set he wants, 879 00:44:23,958 --> 00:44:25,667 but no more than two sets. 880 00:44:25,792 --> 00:44:27,250 - As I always said, 881 00:44:27,375 --> 00:44:30,917 once it's set up with everything that should be in the rooms 882 00:44:31,042 --> 00:44:34,708 and it looks like the real Victorian room, 883 00:44:34,833 --> 00:44:37,042 I will get rid of it. 884 00:44:37,208 --> 00:44:40,333 But until then, I'm not gonna get rid of the stuff. 885 00:44:40,458 --> 00:44:45,083 And then here's a piece that really belongs here, gone. 886 00:44:46,250 --> 00:44:47,500 - Well, Robert, 887 00:44:47,583 --> 00:44:50,875 can you decide now exactly what piece has to be where? 888 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,625 - Listen, this goes in the music room. 889 00:44:53,708 --> 00:44:55,000 I know that. 890 00:44:55,125 --> 00:44:59,875 This goes up in the second floor. 891 00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:02,333 - Then everything else that you are not gonna be 892 00:45:02,458 --> 00:45:04,250 putting in those rooms should go. 893 00:45:04,375 --> 00:45:05,667 - Where to? 894 00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:07,208 - Let them sell it. 895 00:45:07,333 --> 00:45:08,083 - [Bob] No! 896 00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:11,875 - I mean, sometimes it just comes down to physics. 897 00:45:12,042 --> 00:45:14,750 Two objects cannot occupy the same space. 898 00:45:14,875 --> 00:45:16,250 - That's right. 899 00:45:16,375 --> 00:45:18,167 - And I cannot stand there to get to that jacket 900 00:45:18,292 --> 00:45:22,250 that can go, because these items are here. 901 00:45:22,375 --> 00:45:24,833 - I know Bob is struggling in there now, 902 00:45:24,917 --> 00:45:27,667 and they're not sure if they can get this cleared up. 903 00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:29,583 - I'm not getting rid of it, I'll tell you that. 904 00:45:29,708 --> 00:45:31,083 - [Katherine] No. 905 00:45:31,208 --> 00:45:32,958 - The only way he's gonna have a home here, 906 00:45:33,042 --> 00:45:35,708 is he has to be able to let go. 907 00:45:46,375 --> 00:45:47,708 - I'm Bob. 908 00:45:47,833 --> 00:45:49,208 I'm a commercial artist, 909 00:45:49,375 --> 00:45:54,167 and I've been restoring this Victorian house for 51 years. 910 00:45:54,708 --> 00:45:58,000 - [Robin] Bob, that pot of rice is moving. 911 00:45:59,708 --> 00:46:00,500 (Ken retches) 912 00:46:00,583 --> 00:46:02,375 - [Ken] I can't, I can't. 913 00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:03,542 - [Matt] It's pretty thick. 914 00:46:03,667 --> 00:46:05,125 We're standing on a foot of trash, 915 00:46:05,208 --> 00:46:07,417 years and years and years of depression, 916 00:46:07,542 --> 00:46:09,250 and that's what this is. - [Daulton] Mm hmm. 917 00:46:09,375 --> 00:46:11,167 - I want to save this house as a museum, 918 00:46:11,292 --> 00:46:13,875 but we need to save Bob from it first. 919 00:46:14,042 --> 00:46:16,333 - You're making me cry. 920 00:46:16,458 --> 00:46:18,667 - He's going to have to knuckle down and make thousands 921 00:46:18,792 --> 00:46:20,333 and thousands of decisions, 922 00:46:20,417 --> 00:46:24,583 because at least 60% of this stuff is gonna have to go. 923 00:46:24,708 --> 00:46:26,833 - There's too much furniture in this space. 924 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,542 - I'm not getting rid of it. I'll tell you that. 925 00:46:29,708 --> 00:46:32,000 - You know, we're running out of time. 926 00:46:39,375 --> 00:46:45,000 - So this is um...kind of a Groundhog Day for me in that 927 00:46:45,083 --> 00:46:46,667 this is the same conversation that we had 928 00:46:46,792 --> 00:46:47,833 when I first met him. 929 00:46:47,958 --> 00:46:50,542 And that is he really wants to just 930 00:46:50,708 --> 00:46:53,083 sort of, redistribute the stuff. 931 00:46:54,125 --> 00:46:57,333 He's very crystal clear he's not gonna let this stuff go. 932 00:46:57,458 --> 00:47:00,875 But what are our options is where we're at 933 00:47:01,042 --> 00:47:04,333 in terms of being able to sell his stuff? 934 00:47:05,417 --> 00:47:09,125 - Well, unfortunately, he's right. 935 00:47:09,625 --> 00:47:11,250 The frames have financial value. 936 00:47:11,375 --> 00:47:13,042 - Yes, it does. 937 00:47:13,208 --> 00:47:15,250 - Bob probably has a hundred grand worth of frames 938 00:47:15,375 --> 00:47:17,083 in this house. 939 00:47:17,208 --> 00:47:19,458 He's got, gosh, more than a thousand frames 940 00:47:19,583 --> 00:47:23,167 that are worth between 50 to 75 bucks a piece. 941 00:47:23,292 --> 00:47:25,042 So we can't just throw 'em away. 942 00:47:25,208 --> 00:47:27,333 I'm making a frame room in the basement. 943 00:47:27,458 --> 00:47:30,167 He actually did let go of about 90% of his clothes 944 00:47:30,292 --> 00:47:31,833 - [Robin] Hmm. in the basement this morning. 945 00:47:31,917 --> 00:47:32,833 - Good job, Bob. 946 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,125 - So he's made space for that. 947 00:47:35,208 --> 00:47:37,458 My concern here is there's a lot of big furniture 948 00:47:37,542 --> 00:47:39,333 that won't sell. 949 00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:41,667 It's a very hard resell market on the furniture. 950 00:47:41,792 --> 00:47:44,167 - He's already said the furniture's not going, period. 951 00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:45,333 - Yeah, I don't know where it goes. 952 00:47:45,417 --> 00:47:48,417 - He actually knows where the pieces go, 953 00:47:48,542 --> 00:47:49,500 - [Ceil] Yeah. 954 00:47:49,625 --> 00:47:51,833 but we were explaining that they go into rooms 955 00:47:51,958 --> 00:47:53,750 that aren't cleared yet. 956 00:47:53,875 --> 00:47:55,208 - So what he was hoping, and again, 957 00:47:55,375 --> 00:47:58,417 I'm just relaying what Bob is asking for, 958 00:47:58,542 --> 00:48:02,667 is to take everything out and put it on the lawn, 959 00:48:02,792 --> 00:48:06,167 let him look at it, sort through it, make his decisions, 960 00:48:06,250 --> 00:48:07,792 and then bring it back in again. 961 00:48:07,917 --> 00:48:09,833 - I'm okay with pulling stuff in the... 962 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,375 - See what happens. 963 00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:13,500 - But I'm just gonna tell you it's gonna fail. 964 00:48:13,667 --> 00:48:15,125 That method will fail for us. 965 00:48:15,208 --> 00:48:16,583 It'll make this room look good, 966 00:48:16,708 --> 00:48:19,292 but then we're gonna be like, what do we do with it? 967 00:48:19,375 --> 00:48:21,667 We're gonna have the same question we have right now. 968 00:48:21,833 --> 00:48:24,500 We're just gonna have it on the lawn. 969 00:48:24,583 --> 00:48:26,667 He's being really stubborn and he wants to take 970 00:48:26,750 --> 00:48:27,875 everything outta the house. 971 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,583 So I said, "Hey man, I'll do it for you." 972 00:48:29,708 --> 00:48:30,833 I go, "This plan is gonna fail, 973 00:48:30,958 --> 00:48:32,500 but I'm happy to do it for you." 974 00:48:32,667 --> 00:48:34,333 So all we're gonna do is put everything outside 975 00:48:34,458 --> 00:48:36,125 and then we're gonna put it all back in the house. 976 00:48:36,208 --> 00:48:38,000 And you're gonna say it doesn't fit. 977 00:48:38,125 --> 00:48:40,000 And I'm telling you right now, it doesn't fit. 978 00:48:40,125 --> 00:48:42,667 I'm hoping you're going to let me toss some of this 979 00:48:42,750 --> 00:48:43,958 furniture at the end of the day. 980 00:48:44,042 --> 00:48:45,208 That's my goal. 981 00:48:45,333 --> 00:48:47,500 If you don't, that's up to y'all. 982 00:48:47,625 --> 00:48:49,042 But I'm gonna do what he said. 983 00:48:49,208 --> 00:48:50,542 Let's get everything outta here. 984 00:48:50,667 --> 00:48:52,333 Let's set it up the way he wants it and then let's see 985 00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:53,458 what we're left with. 986 00:48:53,542 --> 00:48:56,583 - That's a good idea. Really a good idea. 987 00:49:20,917 --> 00:49:22,000 - [Matt] Adam. - Hey, Matt. 988 00:49:22,167 --> 00:49:23,042 - Good to see you again. - Good to see you. 989 00:49:23,208 --> 00:49:23,958 - Thanks for coming. 990 00:49:24,083 --> 00:49:24,833 - Yeah, my pleasure. 991 00:49:24,958 --> 00:49:26,125 - All right. 992 00:49:26,208 --> 00:49:27,417 Bob's goal is that his art will live on 993 00:49:27,542 --> 00:49:29,167 well beyond his years. 994 00:49:29,292 --> 00:49:31,625 And if we sell a lot of this stuff, 995 00:49:31,708 --> 00:49:35,917 that cash will actually help that to happen. 996 00:49:36,042 --> 00:49:36,833 There's a whole lot of everything. 997 00:49:36,958 --> 00:49:38,458 - Yeah, I'd say so. 998 00:49:38,542 --> 00:49:40,167 - What's your vibe? What are you feeling? 999 00:49:40,292 --> 00:49:41,958 - I'd like to look at this portrait. 1000 00:49:42,083 --> 00:49:44,000 Not too shabby. Handsome. 1001 00:49:44,167 --> 00:49:45,833 I'm Adam Veil, a fine art specialist, 1002 00:49:45,917 --> 00:49:49,292 at Freeman's Auction House in Philadelphia. 1003 00:49:49,417 --> 00:49:52,125 - So, believe it or not, this is his bedroom. 1004 00:49:52,250 --> 00:49:53,917 It's a former bathroom. 1005 00:49:54,042 --> 00:49:56,125 - It was a little bit of everything. 1006 00:49:56,250 --> 00:49:58,083 A whole lot of everything. 1007 00:49:58,208 --> 00:50:01,167 Some modest value, in some of the paintings I saw. 1008 00:50:01,292 --> 00:50:02,625 - E.H. Windred, that's right. 1009 00:50:02,708 --> 00:50:04,250 All right, Walk me through it. What is this? 1010 00:50:04,375 --> 00:50:07,000 - Windred was a British artist, late 19th, 1011 00:50:07,125 --> 00:50:08,250 early 20th century, 1012 00:50:08,375 --> 00:50:10,750 known for doing exactly this kind of thing, 1013 00:50:10,875 --> 00:50:15,083 racing pigeons, the heyday of professional pigeon races, 1014 00:50:15,208 --> 00:50:17,208 and pigeon fanciers. 1015 00:50:17,375 --> 00:50:20,667 They would ask the artist to come to their house, 1016 00:50:20,792 --> 00:50:23,333 and he would paint portraits of their prize pigeons. 1017 00:50:23,417 --> 00:50:24,667 - [Matt] Wow. 1018 00:50:24,750 --> 00:50:25,667 - Yeah, the pigeon pictures were interesting. 1019 00:50:25,792 --> 00:50:28,250 1920s, 1930s, they're the heyday 1020 00:50:28,375 --> 00:50:30,500 of professional pigeon racing. 1021 00:50:30,667 --> 00:50:34,833 I'd say maybe one to $3,000 for the pair together. 1022 00:50:34,917 --> 00:50:36,292 - [Adam] Huh. 1023 00:50:36,833 --> 00:50:39,208 - All right. Have you ever seen something like this? 1024 00:50:39,333 --> 00:50:42,292 - I have not. I have not. Impressive. 1025 00:50:43,458 --> 00:50:43,833 - [Matt] That's saying something. 1026 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:44,792 - Gosh. 1027 00:50:44,917 --> 00:50:46,333 Wow is he prolific. 1028 00:50:46,458 --> 00:50:48,000 - Yeah, I mean, it goes over there. 1029 00:50:48,125 --> 00:50:49,958 It goes way over here. - [Adam] Huh. 1030 00:50:50,083 --> 00:50:51,833 There's hundreds of paintings over here. 1031 00:50:51,917 --> 00:50:54,292 - And not just singlemindedly prolific. 1032 00:50:54,375 --> 00:50:58,417 I mean I see landscapes, portraits, urban scenes. 1033 00:50:59,667 --> 00:51:01,000 - His work is good. 1034 00:51:01,125 --> 00:51:04,042 - It is. There is a lot to recommend his paintings. 1035 00:51:04,167 --> 00:51:05,583 He's a strong draftsman, 1036 00:51:05,708 --> 00:51:09,292 has certainly a vision for far reaching subject matter. 1037 00:51:09,417 --> 00:51:10,917 - [Matt] He's had a complicated life. 1038 00:51:11,042 --> 00:51:12,667 - Yeah and he just poured his heart and soul 1039 00:51:12,750 --> 00:51:14,333 into creating and collecting. 1040 00:51:14,458 --> 00:51:15,208 - Yeah. 1041 00:51:16,708 --> 00:51:21,333 - 90% of the collection is the homeowner's own work. 1042 00:51:21,417 --> 00:51:24,750 And while there's a lot to be said about it positively, 1043 00:51:24,875 --> 00:51:29,208 of course, that doesn't always translate into auction value. 1044 00:51:30,208 --> 00:51:32,250 - All right, Bob, this is my buddy Adam, 1045 00:51:32,375 --> 00:51:33,125 from Freeman's Auction. 1046 00:51:33,208 --> 00:51:34,542 - Hi Bob, a pleasure. 1047 00:51:34,667 --> 00:51:36,708 - He is both a art historian and an auctioneer, 1048 00:51:36,833 --> 00:51:38,667 so he can handle both sides of is it good art? 1049 00:51:38,833 --> 00:51:40,333 And what can it sell for? 1050 00:51:40,417 --> 00:51:41,792 Which are, as you know, two separate things. 1051 00:51:41,917 --> 00:51:43,167 - [Bob] Mm hmm. 1052 00:51:43,333 --> 00:51:46,500 Where did you get those two ducks? Pigeons, sorry. 1053 00:51:46,625 --> 00:51:48,000 - [Adam] Two pigeons. - [Matt] Yeah. 1054 00:51:48,125 --> 00:51:50,375 - Oh, I bought that in England. 1055 00:51:50,542 --> 00:51:51,125 - You did? 1056 00:51:51,250 --> 00:51:52,000 - Sure. Makes sense. 1057 00:51:52,083 --> 00:51:53,458 British artist. 1058 00:51:53,542 --> 00:51:54,292 - Yes. 1059 00:51:54,417 --> 00:51:55,417 - They actually have some value. 1060 00:51:55,542 --> 00:51:57,458 - [Bob] They do? - They do. 1061 00:51:57,583 --> 00:52:00,208 Those are worth about a thousand to 3,000 a piece, 1062 00:52:00,333 --> 00:52:01,542 believe it or not. 1063 00:52:01,667 --> 00:52:03,333 (Bob laughs) 1064 00:52:03,458 --> 00:52:05,167 You probably do have a million dollars worth of stuff 1065 00:52:05,292 --> 00:52:06,833 in this house, believe it or not. 1066 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,583 But it's 50 bucks at a time. 1067 00:52:09,708 --> 00:52:13,792 We couldn't find one item worth a million dollars. 1068 00:52:15,167 --> 00:52:16,167 But who's to say that there's not, 1069 00:52:16,250 --> 00:52:18,042 - [Adam] Sure. Because we didn't get 1070 00:52:18,208 --> 00:52:20,125 to 90% of the house because it's still so full. 1071 00:52:20,208 --> 00:52:21,167 - Mm hmm. 1072 00:52:21,333 --> 00:52:22,458 So we still have a lot of work to do. 1073 00:52:22,583 --> 00:52:23,667 - Okay. 1074 00:52:23,792 --> 00:52:26,750 - He's gonna be on call with Freeman's all week. 1075 00:52:26,875 --> 00:52:29,583 - Anything that turns up, send me photos. 1076 00:52:29,708 --> 00:52:30,875 Happy to dig into it. 1077 00:52:31,042 --> 00:52:32,042 - Well, let's get some pictures. 1078 00:52:32,208 --> 00:52:33,500 We have to get to 'em, unfortunately. 1079 00:52:33,583 --> 00:52:34,792 - Yes. 1080 00:52:34,917 --> 00:52:36,000 So we'll get some pictures to him throughout the week 1081 00:52:36,125 --> 00:52:37,500 and he'll let us know. 1082 00:52:37,667 --> 00:52:40,333 - And we would be delighted to review anything of course. 1083 00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:41,792 - Currently there's just a lot of items 1084 00:52:41,917 --> 00:52:43,667 worth a little bit of money and that does add up. 1085 00:52:43,792 --> 00:52:45,375 I mean, I think Freeman's could probably sell, 1086 00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:47,333 fifty to a hundred thousand dollars worth of stuff in here. 1087 00:52:47,417 --> 00:52:49,125 And then I've got about three different other auction houses 1088 00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:53,083 that do the more fifty to a hundred dollars items. 1089 00:52:53,208 --> 00:52:54,708 And I would probably bring them in to help sell 1090 00:52:54,833 --> 00:52:56,333 a lot of that stuff. 1091 00:52:56,417 --> 00:52:58,667 So, I mean, there's probably $750,000 worth of contents 1092 00:52:58,792 --> 00:53:02,208 in this house, but you gotta do it a dollar at a time. 1093 00:53:02,333 --> 00:53:03,000 - Bob, real pleasure. - Oh same here. 1094 00:53:03,167 --> 00:53:03,958 Delighted. 1095 00:53:10,208 --> 00:53:11,625 - I think the solution here, 1096 00:53:11,708 --> 00:53:13,292 is we're gonna start to pull a lot of smaller items 1097 00:53:13,375 --> 00:53:17,167 out of these rooms that need to be sold. 1098 00:53:17,292 --> 00:53:18,958 But what's nice is those smaller auction houses will come 1099 00:53:19,042 --> 00:53:20,125 and take the entire room - [Bob] Mm hmm. 1100 00:53:20,250 --> 00:53:21,417 and you don't have to worry about it, 1101 00:53:21,542 --> 00:53:22,917 and then you just get a percentage. 1102 00:53:23,042 --> 00:53:25,292 And so that makes it a little easier they do all the work. 1103 00:53:25,417 --> 00:53:27,667 - [Bob] Right. We'll give him the plan, 1104 00:53:27,792 --> 00:53:29,333 we'll set up the calls for the people, 1105 00:53:29,417 --> 00:53:31,083 but he's gonna have to get all this stuff on a truck 1106 00:53:31,208 --> 00:53:32,833 and get it sold. 1107 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,333 I think we'll help him identify a lot of the items 1108 00:53:34,458 --> 00:53:36,292 the next couple days. 1109 00:53:36,375 --> 00:53:37,500 All right, I'm gonna stop you here, 1110 00:53:37,583 --> 00:53:39,500 'cause I'm hoping I can do something here. 1111 00:53:39,667 --> 00:53:42,625 - Oh, well this whole thing can go. 1112 00:53:43,875 --> 00:53:46,542 - Bob, can I hug you? 1113 00:53:47,250 --> 00:53:48,833 That's exactly what I was hoping you would say. 1114 00:53:48,958 --> 00:53:50,917 Guys, that's gonna give us enough space for all the frames. 1115 00:53:51,042 --> 00:53:51,833 - [Ken] A ton of space, yeah. 1116 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,000 - All these frames over here. 1117 00:53:53,167 --> 00:53:55,333 We're gonna reorganize in here now, 1118 00:53:55,458 --> 00:53:58,000 and we can keep all the frames upstairs down here now. 1119 00:53:58,083 --> 00:53:59,000 - Bob, I'm so proud of you. 1120 00:53:59,125 --> 00:54:01,792 This is awesome. This is amazing. 1121 00:54:01,875 --> 00:54:04,250 - I think we could fill that dumpster now. 1122 00:54:04,375 --> 00:54:07,250 (dramatic music) 1123 00:54:23,875 --> 00:54:26,042 (Bob pants) 1124 00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:29,917 - Bob, are you having trouble breathing right now? 1125 00:54:30,042 --> 00:54:31,167 - Hmm? 1126 00:54:31,292 --> 00:54:32,583 - Can you take some deep breaths? 1127 00:54:32,708 --> 00:54:34,208 - I am. 1128 00:54:34,375 --> 00:54:37,417 - [Ken] Okay, let's just take a moment to breathe. 1129 00:54:37,542 --> 00:54:39,708 - Bob's working really hard today and had some really great 1130 00:54:39,833 --> 00:54:43,042 success letting go of things in the basement. 1131 00:54:43,208 --> 00:54:47,125 At this point though, he's reporting shortness of breath. 1132 00:54:47,250 --> 00:54:48,542 - [Tim] How are you, sir? 1133 00:54:48,667 --> 00:54:49,667 - [Bob] Hmm? - How are you? 1134 00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:50,667 - [Bob] Okay. 1135 00:54:50,792 --> 00:54:51,500 - You're out of breath. A little winded? 1136 00:54:51,583 --> 00:54:53,042 - It's that lung thing. 1137 00:54:53,208 --> 00:54:55,583 - Yeah, let's just check your pulse. 1138 00:54:55,708 --> 00:54:57,667 - Due to Bob's lung cancer, 1139 00:54:57,792 --> 00:55:02,542 he does have episodes where he has shortness of breathing. 1140 00:55:12,333 --> 00:55:17,375 Well, Tim's here, he just wants to do a couple checks on ya. 1141 00:55:18,708 --> 00:55:20,292 - Can you take a deep breath, sir? 1142 00:55:20,375 --> 00:55:22,750 There we go. Let it out. 1143 00:55:22,875 --> 00:55:25,000 No chest pressure? No chest pain. 1144 00:55:25,167 --> 00:55:26,500 - No. - Okay. 1145 00:55:26,667 --> 00:55:28,333 All right. Let's just stay outside for a little while, sir. 1146 00:55:28,458 --> 00:55:30,208 - Okay. You're just winded. 1147 00:55:30,333 --> 00:55:31,750 - Fortunately, Bob was okay. 1148 00:55:31,875 --> 00:55:35,333 We just needed to let him rest and get hydrated. 1149 00:55:35,458 --> 00:55:36,875 - I'm much better right now. - Okay. 1150 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:37,792 - Okay. 1151 00:55:50,583 --> 00:55:53,625 - We have a ton of art, as you all know. 1152 00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:56,250 I need to get it somewhere. 1153 00:55:56,375 --> 00:55:59,458 Is there a solution of storing, selling? 1154 00:55:59,583 --> 00:56:01,417 There's complicated things with the trust. 1155 00:56:01,542 --> 00:56:03,000 What are our options? 1156 00:56:03,125 --> 00:56:05,500 - I'm not allowed to sell any of the historic paintings 1157 00:56:05,583 --> 00:56:07,708 that Bob has done, including portraits, landscapes. 1158 00:56:07,833 --> 00:56:10,583 I'm only licensed to sell his abstract work. 1159 00:56:10,708 --> 00:56:12,500 - [Elizabeth] Exactly. So with those ones, 1160 00:56:12,667 --> 00:56:14,583 we could find a gallery to lend them to. 1161 00:56:14,708 --> 00:56:17,333 We could sell them, but the other ones, 1162 00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:19,042 we are kind of stuck with them. 1163 00:56:19,167 --> 00:56:20,083 - Stuck, okay. 1164 00:56:22,542 --> 00:56:24,750 - I've always felt that we need to take 1165 00:56:24,875 --> 00:56:28,875 all of those paintings out of the house, put 'em in storage. 1166 00:56:29,042 --> 00:56:31,875 So if we can figure out a way to keep them 1167 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,292 where they would be safe, 1168 00:56:33,417 --> 00:56:35,000 I'm sure Bob would agree with that. 1169 00:56:35,125 --> 00:56:37,917 He just doesn't want everything to be split up 1170 00:56:38,042 --> 00:56:39,250 and sold individually. 1171 00:56:39,375 --> 00:56:42,375 It's all part and parcel of the estate. 1172 00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:43,833 - He wants it as one collection. 1173 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,125 - We have all these paintings in the basement 1174 00:56:45,250 --> 00:56:47,708 and they have substantial value. 1175 00:56:47,875 --> 00:56:49,500 That basement's not a place to keep those. 1176 00:56:49,625 --> 00:56:52,958 They need to be in a more secure area with a dry situation, 1177 00:56:53,042 --> 00:56:54,208 temperature controlled. 1178 00:56:54,375 --> 00:56:57,333 I mean that's a financial asset. 1179 00:56:57,458 --> 00:57:00,833 Look, I've got movers that could come tomorrow, 1180 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,333 but we'd have to have somewhere to take it. 1181 00:57:02,458 --> 00:57:05,375 That's the problem. So can you make some calls? 1182 00:57:05,542 --> 00:57:07,625 - I'll make a few calls. 1183 00:57:17,708 --> 00:57:20,500 - This one won't really sell regardless. 1184 00:57:20,625 --> 00:57:23,458 There's nothing of value here. I would let that go. 1185 00:57:23,583 --> 00:57:25,625 - I'm gonna use them in the house. 1186 00:57:25,708 --> 00:57:27,333 - I wouldn't sit on those. 1187 00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:30,083 They need to be, at best, they need to be restored. 1188 00:57:30,208 --> 00:57:31,542 - So Bob, how about this? 1189 00:57:31,667 --> 00:57:35,500 We get rid of this one. I'll have this one reupholstered. 1190 00:57:35,667 --> 00:57:37,875 - I don't want, that's the original upholstery... 1191 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,333 - But it's ruined. 1192 00:57:39,417 --> 00:57:42,625 - It is not. That stain can be cleaned off. 1193 00:57:42,750 --> 00:57:44,667 - Well, I'm more worried about the... 1194 00:57:44,792 --> 00:57:47,708 there's um... I'll just say it very... 1195 00:57:47,875 --> 00:57:49,333 I'm trying to be eloquent here, 1196 00:57:49,417 --> 00:57:52,375 but this whole house smells like cat piss. 1197 00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:56,125 And so you got a couch just filled with cat pee, 1198 00:57:56,208 --> 00:57:59,708 and that is not something that anyone should sit on. 1199 00:57:59,833 --> 00:58:01,750 - I'm not doing it. I'm sorry. 1200 00:58:01,875 --> 00:58:04,875 - If we are gonna raise this to the level of a museum, 1201 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,833 you gotta have quality stuff in here. 1202 00:58:07,958 --> 00:58:11,958 - I'm saving this one. I'll tell you that. 1203 00:58:12,042 --> 00:58:15,542 - We keep having the same conversation over and over 1204 00:58:15,708 --> 00:58:18,000 about the sofa and the chairs. 1205 00:58:18,083 --> 00:58:19,500 He thinks they're nice. 1206 00:58:19,625 --> 00:58:21,500 I think they're covered in cat pee, 1207 00:58:21,667 --> 00:58:25,375 and mouse poop and tomato, tomato, 1208 00:58:26,208 --> 00:58:30,208 either way, we're spending time arguing about it. 1209 00:58:30,875 --> 00:58:32,750 To me, throw it away. Let's restore that. 1210 00:58:32,875 --> 00:58:34,708 Move on to the other 18 couches. 1211 00:58:34,875 --> 00:58:36,208 - I wanna save it. I'm sorry. 1212 00:58:36,375 --> 00:58:37,958 - [Matt] Okay. I respect your opinion. 1213 00:58:38,042 --> 00:58:39,083 - [Bob] Okay. 1214 00:58:39,208 --> 00:58:40,125 - It's your stuff at the end of the day. 1215 00:58:40,250 --> 00:58:40,792 - [Bob] Right. - Okay. 1216 00:58:40,875 --> 00:58:41,833 - That's it. 1217 00:58:41,917 --> 00:58:43,000 - Still love you, man. Happy birthday. 1218 00:58:43,167 --> 00:58:43,917 - Thanks. 1219 00:58:44,875 --> 00:58:47,667 - All right, let's keep moving. 1220 00:58:49,708 --> 00:58:50,792 - I don't need that one. 1221 00:58:50,917 --> 00:58:53,333 - Fantastic. Christmas tree. 1222 00:58:53,458 --> 00:58:54,958 - [Daulton] Keeping it? - Yeah. 1223 00:58:55,083 --> 00:58:56,667 - [Daulton] Making progress. - Yes. 1224 00:59:06,250 --> 00:59:10,042 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ - [Bob] I knew it. 1225 00:59:10,208 --> 00:59:13,375 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1226 00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:17,708 ♪ Happy birthday dear Bob ♪ 1227 00:59:17,875 --> 00:59:21,167 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1228 00:59:22,417 --> 00:59:23,750 - Yay. (all clapping) 1229 00:59:26,250 --> 00:59:26,958 - Can I change 1230 00:59:29,125 --> 00:59:30,167 - 78. 1231 00:59:30,250 --> 00:59:33,208 - This whole project has been about honoring Bob 1232 00:59:33,375 --> 00:59:35,500 and today is his birthday. 1233 00:59:35,667 --> 00:59:36,833 So we got him a cake, 1234 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,667 sang him happy birthday and let him know 1235 00:59:39,792 --> 00:59:42,625 that he is a really special guy. 1236 00:59:45,708 --> 00:59:47,875 - We'll let you take more than one breath. 1237 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,125 (all cheer) 1238 00:59:56,583 --> 00:59:59,250 (dramatic music) 1239 01:00:03,917 --> 01:00:05,000 - So halfway through the cleanup, 1240 01:00:05,167 --> 01:00:07,458 we've still got a pretty full upstairs. 1241 01:00:07,583 --> 01:00:10,333 Here is my biggest concern. 1242 01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:11,917 It turns out you've got about a half million dollars, 1243 01:00:12,042 --> 01:00:15,625 if not more worth of paintings in the basement. 1244 01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:17,292 That's a significant asset. 1245 01:00:17,375 --> 01:00:20,167 And having them in the basement where they can get destroyed 1246 01:00:20,333 --> 01:00:22,167 by water is concerning to me. 1247 01:00:22,333 --> 01:00:24,792 Can you guys tell us what you guys did last night? 1248 01:00:24,875 --> 01:00:27,167 - Yeah, last night we rented 1249 01:00:27,250 --> 01:00:31,000 a temperature controlled storage unit with security. 1250 01:00:31,083 --> 01:00:34,417 It is large enough to fit a good portion of everything. 1251 01:00:34,542 --> 01:00:35,917 - No, that's fine with me. 1252 01:00:36,042 --> 01:00:36,500 - Okay. 1253 01:00:36,583 --> 01:00:37,500 - Great. 1254 01:00:37,625 --> 01:00:39,000 - So Bob, all the stuff, 1255 01:00:39,125 --> 01:00:41,125 whether it be in the basement or going to a storage unit, 1256 01:00:41,208 --> 01:00:45,542 what is the end goal with all these paintings? 1257 01:00:45,708 --> 01:00:49,417 - I said all abstracts can be sold to make profit 1258 01:00:49,542 --> 01:00:50,500 for the museum. 1259 01:00:50,625 --> 01:00:52,000 - [Robin] Okay. 1260 01:00:52,167 --> 01:00:54,500 - But none of the landscapes can be sold, correct? 1261 01:00:54,583 --> 01:00:55,375 - Nope. 1262 01:00:57,250 --> 01:00:59,667 - You've put a block on the best paintings, 1263 01:00:59,750 --> 01:01:00,500 the ones that would catch the most money. 1264 01:01:00,625 --> 01:01:02,208 - Yes, I did. I know. 1265 01:01:02,375 --> 01:01:04,917 - Why do you not want any of the landscapes or portraits 1266 01:01:05,042 --> 01:01:06,167 to be sold? 1267 01:01:06,250 --> 01:01:10,875 - Because I think the museum will profit from it. 1268 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,083 - Do you think that you are being realistic 1269 01:01:14,208 --> 01:01:15,542 in this plan as well? 1270 01:01:15,708 --> 01:01:17,917 - Maybe not, but I still wanna do that. 1271 01:01:18,042 --> 01:01:19,125 I'm sorry. 1272 01:01:19,208 --> 01:01:21,958 - No, it's your stuff. We're here to honor you. 1273 01:01:22,042 --> 01:01:23,125 - [Bob] No. 1274 01:01:23,208 --> 01:01:25,625 But we just also want to be the voice of truth 1275 01:01:25,708 --> 01:01:27,250 and reality too. 1276 01:01:27,375 --> 01:01:30,000 - The reason why I'm doing that is 'cause I really want this 1277 01:01:30,125 --> 01:01:34,833 to be outstanding and the way I visualized it. 1278 01:01:36,167 --> 01:01:38,333 - [Matt] His vision of this living museum is now 1279 01:01:38,458 --> 01:01:41,000 really distorting reality. 1280 01:01:41,125 --> 01:01:43,667 And in other hoarding situations, 1281 01:01:43,792 --> 01:01:45,417 you would push harder. 1282 01:01:45,542 --> 01:01:50,000 But this dude had a stroke, he has cancer, he's 87. 1283 01:01:50,125 --> 01:01:53,042 At some point it's not healthy to push this man. 1284 01:01:53,208 --> 01:01:55,833 And he's got one vision to make this house a living museum 1285 01:01:55,958 --> 01:01:57,333 before he passes away. 1286 01:01:57,458 --> 01:01:58,958 I don't know that it's gonna come to fruition 1287 01:01:59,083 --> 01:02:03,958 while he's alive because he's holding onto too many things. 1288 01:02:04,458 --> 01:02:06,167 Now I was your cleaner, now I'm your friend. 1289 01:02:06,250 --> 01:02:08,500 I'm gonna tell you these couches are nasty, 1290 01:02:08,625 --> 01:02:10,542 - [Robin] Mm hmm. and they don't equate to 1291 01:02:10,708 --> 01:02:12,417 the rest of your vision. 1292 01:02:12,542 --> 01:02:13,917 - Just look at the floor alone. 1293 01:02:14,042 --> 01:02:16,583 There's rodent waste all over the floor. 1294 01:02:16,708 --> 01:02:19,375 There's cat waste on the floor. 1295 01:02:19,542 --> 01:02:21,708 I mean, we're all standing in it. 1296 01:02:21,875 --> 01:02:22,875 - I've been doing this 20 years 1297 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,375 and I've never gotten sick in a house, 1298 01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:28,167 I've got an eye infection after two days in this house. 1299 01:02:28,333 --> 01:02:31,833 Everything is covered in cat urine and mouse feces. 1300 01:02:31,958 --> 01:02:33,208 And he's like, "Ah, there's nothing wrong here." 1301 01:02:33,333 --> 01:02:35,917 And I'm like, "Dude, I've got an eye infection, 1302 01:02:36,042 --> 01:02:37,375 because of your house." 1303 01:02:37,542 --> 01:02:38,417 It's dirty. 1304 01:02:40,542 --> 01:02:44,125 I want this ultimate museum to be the vision that you have. 1305 01:02:44,250 --> 01:02:46,750 And I think some of the furniture's holding us back. 1306 01:02:46,875 --> 01:02:47,792 - I don't care. 1307 01:02:47,875 --> 01:02:49,042 They belong to the museum 1308 01:02:49,208 --> 01:02:52,083 and I'm not gonna get rid of them. 1309 01:03:22,167 --> 01:03:23,375 - I don't wanna argue all day. 1310 01:03:23,542 --> 01:03:25,125 I'll say that we have a chance, 1311 01:03:25,250 --> 01:03:27,292 if you're okay with us moving these paintings, 1312 01:03:27,375 --> 01:03:29,583 I would love to get the paintings outta the basement. 1313 01:03:29,708 --> 01:03:30,750 Like ASAP. 1314 01:03:30,875 --> 01:03:32,208 - That's fine with me. 1315 01:03:32,333 --> 01:03:34,000 That's perfectly okay. - [Matt] Okay. 1316 01:03:34,125 --> 01:03:36,083 - And then that gives us now then two spaces. 1317 01:03:36,208 --> 01:03:39,000 One storage of stuff we're not sure on. 1318 01:03:39,083 --> 01:03:41,667 And then all the stuff you want to sell 1319 01:03:41,833 --> 01:03:43,542 can go into that back room there. 1320 01:03:43,667 --> 01:03:46,333 (dramatic music) 1321 01:03:58,917 --> 01:04:01,958 (dramatic music) 1322 01:04:07,208 --> 01:04:08,292 (door slams) 1323 01:04:10,625 --> 01:04:14,000 After working with you guys for a couple days. I get it. 1324 01:04:14,125 --> 01:04:14,958 When I first met you, I was like, 1325 01:04:15,042 --> 01:04:16,167 well what's in it for them? 1326 01:04:16,292 --> 01:04:18,667 Why are they so involved with Bob? 1327 01:04:18,792 --> 01:04:21,083 I mean, you're not technically blood family. 1328 01:04:21,208 --> 01:04:23,250 Why are you so dedicated to Bob? 1329 01:04:23,375 --> 01:04:27,000 - It's our social obligation to help out 1330 01:04:27,167 --> 01:04:30,083 our fellow members of our community. 1331 01:04:30,208 --> 01:04:32,000 Growing up gay in the Midwest can be really hard 1332 01:04:32,125 --> 01:04:33,500 for a lot of people. 1333 01:04:33,625 --> 01:04:36,000 And some of us have been rejected by our families. 1334 01:04:36,125 --> 01:04:38,792 Some of us have lost everything because of it. 1335 01:04:38,875 --> 01:04:40,292 - Bob came out in the 50s. 1336 01:04:40,417 --> 01:04:41,583 - He did. 1337 01:04:41,708 --> 01:04:43,792 He was a pioneer and he advocated for social change, 1338 01:04:43,917 --> 01:04:45,833 which allowed us to get married eventually. 1339 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,167 He was part of that movement. 1340 01:04:47,292 --> 01:04:49,292 It's something that us gay men do. 1341 01:04:49,375 --> 01:04:52,000 We look out for each other and we make sure that we're okay, 1342 01:04:52,125 --> 01:04:55,208 because people like Bob don't have families to rely on. 1343 01:04:55,375 --> 01:04:58,250 And maybe someday someone will do the same for us 1344 01:04:58,375 --> 01:04:59,417 in our old age. 1345 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,542 - On the first day I brought you into the kitchen, 1346 01:05:02,667 --> 01:05:07,667 you threw up and then you cried and then you stayed. 1347 01:05:07,833 --> 01:05:10,042 That's family as far as I'm concerned. 1348 01:05:10,167 --> 01:05:11,167 I mean, y'all have been more involved 1349 01:05:11,333 --> 01:05:13,583 than a lot of family members we do get. 1350 01:05:13,708 --> 01:05:15,500 I hope this will continue to support your community, 1351 01:05:15,583 --> 01:05:17,667 and then the community of St. Louis as a whole. 1352 01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:20,000 And I hope that Bob gets seen. 1353 01:05:20,125 --> 01:05:23,458 I hope his art gets seen and appreciated. 1354 01:05:27,667 --> 01:05:29,333 - So he said this is a project. 1355 01:05:29,500 --> 01:05:33,250 How many projects did you guys keep yesterday? 1356 01:05:33,375 --> 01:05:34,417 - Quite a few. 1357 01:05:34,542 --> 01:05:37,125 - You've already kept quite a few projects. 1358 01:05:37,250 --> 01:05:38,500 - Do you know where the tail is for this? 1359 01:05:38,625 --> 01:05:40,583 - No, it was in there. 1360 01:05:40,708 --> 01:05:42,833 - If we can't find the tail, can we get rid of it? 1361 01:05:42,917 --> 01:05:44,875 - No. It's a piece of artwork. 1362 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,167 Somebody can fix it. 1363 01:05:46,292 --> 01:05:47,833 - Well, someone could fix it. 1364 01:05:47,958 --> 01:05:49,958 Do you want you to be the person that fixes it? 1365 01:05:50,042 --> 01:05:52,458 - No. I'd rather just give it to somebody. 1366 01:05:52,542 --> 01:05:53,500 - Could we donate this? 1367 01:05:53,625 --> 01:05:54,458 - Yes. 1368 01:05:55,875 --> 01:05:57,333 - [Daulton] What's that? 1369 01:05:57,417 --> 01:05:58,708 - [Ceil] Oh, you don't know the design thing he did. 1370 01:05:58,833 --> 01:06:00,125 - Design for a tea cup. 1371 01:06:00,250 --> 01:06:01,083 - [Daulton] You wanna keep it? 1372 01:06:01,208 --> 01:06:02,417 - [Bob] No. - No? 1373 01:06:02,542 --> 01:06:03,708 - [Ceil] Nah. 1374 01:06:03,833 --> 01:06:05,792 - We spent a second day pulling items 1375 01:06:05,875 --> 01:06:07,333 out of the living room. 1376 01:06:07,458 --> 01:06:10,333 Ceil and Bob were actually making good choices. 1377 01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:11,708 - Donate it. 1378 01:06:11,875 --> 01:06:12,375 - Keep one of them in case we need it. 1379 01:06:12,542 --> 01:06:13,125 - That's a good idea. 1380 01:06:13,208 --> 01:06:14,000 - [Daulton] Sound good? 1381 01:06:14,083 --> 01:06:15,958 - But Bob is very slow. 1382 01:06:16,083 --> 01:06:18,000 He may make a good choice, 1383 01:06:18,167 --> 01:06:20,542 but it takes a long time to get there. 1384 01:06:20,708 --> 01:06:21,875 - [Daulton] Can I take a smell? 1385 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:22,958 - Yeah, let's do a smell test on those. 1386 01:06:23,083 --> 01:06:24,167 - [Daulton] Let me see those. 1387 01:06:24,292 --> 01:06:26,000 - [Bob] All old fabric has that odor to it. 1388 01:06:26,083 --> 01:06:27,167 - [Daulton] Here you give it a smell. 1389 01:06:27,292 --> 01:06:29,833 This one's stronger than everything else. 1390 01:06:29,958 --> 01:06:31,375 - This is antique. 1391 01:06:33,833 --> 01:06:36,500 - I am not smelling that by the way. 1392 01:06:36,625 --> 01:06:38,833 - Well it could be washed. 1393 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,000 - Can those be washed? - [Bob] Sure. 1394 01:06:40,167 --> 01:06:42,000 - [Ceil] Yeah, this could be washed. 1395 01:06:42,167 --> 01:06:43,167 - [Daulton] Has to be hand washed. 1396 01:06:43,250 --> 01:06:45,125 - That's not bad, you just shush 'em. 1397 01:06:45,250 --> 01:06:46,125 You just shush 'em. 1398 01:06:46,250 --> 01:06:47,958 - Add this to the wash pile, 1399 01:06:48,042 --> 01:06:50,375 and we'll have a neutral nose come through. 1400 01:06:50,542 --> 01:06:51,333 - [Ceil] Yeah, yeah go from there, go from there. 1401 01:06:51,458 --> 01:06:52,542 We'll take a look at that again. 1402 01:07:03,542 --> 01:07:05,292 - We have all of these things over here. 1403 01:07:05,375 --> 01:07:09,083 All the furniture items with nowhere to go inside the house. 1404 01:07:09,208 --> 01:07:11,167 There's only so much room. 1405 01:07:11,250 --> 01:07:13,333 We don't wanna store that furniture in the basement, 1406 01:07:13,458 --> 01:07:15,542 'cause it's only gonna get more damaged. 1407 01:07:15,667 --> 01:07:19,333 So are we able to reassess the furniture over here 1408 01:07:19,458 --> 01:07:22,042 and really try to pare it down 1409 01:07:22,208 --> 01:07:24,833 to see what we can actually... 1410 01:07:24,958 --> 01:07:27,000 - I'll give up painting and save my... 1411 01:07:27,167 --> 01:07:28,500 - To save the furniture? 1412 01:07:28,583 --> 01:07:29,583 - Yes, I will. 1413 01:07:31,125 --> 01:07:33,667 - You spend all day painting and being creative. 1414 01:07:33,792 --> 01:07:36,542 If you don't have a space to be creative, I mean, 1415 01:07:36,708 --> 01:07:38,333 that's you. 1416 01:07:38,417 --> 01:07:40,792 You like this furniture more than you like yourself. 1417 01:07:40,875 --> 01:07:42,542 - No, no, it's not that. 1418 01:07:42,667 --> 01:07:44,542 I need those furniture. 1419 01:07:44,708 --> 01:07:48,542 And then when I decided I told you I will get rid of them. 1420 01:07:48,708 --> 01:07:50,833 - Do you mind if we just take another glance 1421 01:07:50,958 --> 01:07:52,292 at it and see if there's anything 1422 01:07:52,417 --> 01:07:55,167 that you might wanna reconsider? 1423 01:07:55,292 --> 01:07:57,417 - I'm gonna look, but I might not say anything. 1424 01:07:57,542 --> 01:07:58,208 I'll tell you. 1425 01:07:58,375 --> 01:07:59,833 - Okay, well let's try. Right? 1426 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,250 - Okay. 1427 01:08:01,375 --> 01:08:03,167 - It doesn't hurt to try. - [Ceil] In the meantime. 1428 01:08:04,542 --> 01:08:06,083 - What we're dealing with is bringing everything back in 1429 01:08:06,208 --> 01:08:08,833 and there not being enough space for those pieces. 1430 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,625 It's gonna look pretty chaotic in there. 1431 01:08:11,708 --> 01:08:13,458 And I went through that with him and said, 1432 01:08:13,542 --> 01:08:15,375 "It's not gonna look like a room. 1433 01:08:15,542 --> 01:08:18,333 It's gonna look like a storage place." 1434 01:08:18,458 --> 01:08:21,583 - So that one does not match any of the ones out here. 1435 01:08:21,708 --> 01:08:24,708 I think this chair, this chair and both of those chairs, 1436 01:08:24,875 --> 01:08:27,167 I think those ones can go. 1437 01:08:27,292 --> 01:08:28,500 You've got plenty of other furniture to decorate. 1438 01:08:28,667 --> 01:08:30,875 You have better furniture to decorate. 1439 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,208 - Well, I don't mind that these two go. 1440 01:08:34,333 --> 01:08:35,583 - So those two and these two? 1441 01:08:35,708 --> 01:08:39,333 - But there's one in there that matches, 1442 01:08:39,458 --> 01:08:43,125 close to the one that I want to reupholster. 1443 01:08:44,292 --> 01:08:46,625 So can I go in there and look and see what it is 1444 01:08:46,708 --> 01:08:48,833 and then come back out? 1445 01:08:48,958 --> 01:08:50,917 - He wants to see everything. 1446 01:08:51,042 --> 01:08:52,667 He wants to talk about everything. 1447 01:08:52,750 --> 01:08:56,750 And we just don't have time to go through each item. 1448 01:08:56,875 --> 01:08:58,958 There are thousands upon thousands of items 1449 01:08:59,083 --> 01:09:01,083 left in the house and he wants to talk 1450 01:09:01,208 --> 01:09:03,833 for five or ten minutes about each one. 1451 01:09:03,917 --> 01:09:07,417 At that rate, we won't be done in God knows how long. 1452 01:09:07,542 --> 01:09:09,667 I think we might be taking too much time doing this. 1453 01:09:09,792 --> 01:09:12,792 They're only going to be here one more day. 1454 01:09:12,875 --> 01:09:15,792 This is the chair you asked me to bring from the music room. 1455 01:09:15,875 --> 01:09:17,250 - Yeah. 1456 01:09:17,375 --> 01:09:19,375 - Can you get some... This is the one that matches it, 1457 01:09:20,958 --> 01:09:22,292 close to it. 1458 01:09:22,375 --> 01:09:22,875 - They don't match. They've got different designs. 1459 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:23,667 - No, I know. 1460 01:09:24,875 --> 01:09:25,792 - This is gonna be a museum. 1461 01:09:25,875 --> 01:09:27,958 The chairs have to match and these don't match. 1462 01:09:28,083 --> 01:09:29,375 - Wait. 1463 01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:30,667 - [Ken] You're not gonna reupholster it. 1464 01:09:30,833 --> 01:09:32,000 - Yes, I am. 1465 01:09:32,125 --> 01:09:32,750 - [Ken] How many years have you had it for? 1466 01:09:32,875 --> 01:09:34,000 - Huh? 1467 01:09:34,125 --> 01:09:35,583 - How many years have you had it for? 1468 01:09:35,708 --> 01:09:37,250 - That's why I got the fabric in there and all the gilding. 1469 01:09:37,375 --> 01:09:40,042 - When did you get that? 1470 01:09:40,167 --> 01:09:41,292 - The fabrics? 1471 01:09:41,375 --> 01:09:42,417 - [Ken] 10 Years ago? 20 years ago? 1472 01:09:42,542 --> 01:09:43,292 - No. 1473 01:09:43,417 --> 01:09:44,167 - You're never gonna do it. 1474 01:09:44,292 --> 01:09:45,417 - [Bob] Yes, I am. 1475 01:09:45,542 --> 01:09:46,875 - Can we just throw these away? 1476 01:09:47,042 --> 01:09:50,000 - No, not gonna throw 'em away. 1477 01:09:50,083 --> 01:09:52,750 - I thought Bob and I shared the same vision for the museum, 1478 01:09:52,875 --> 01:09:57,292 and I think in his head there is a vision he has 1479 01:09:57,417 --> 01:09:59,125 for the museum, 1480 01:09:59,208 --> 01:10:01,292 and then there's the vision he has 1481 01:10:01,417 --> 01:10:04,042 for keeping all of his stuff. 1482 01:10:04,208 --> 01:10:06,708 And the two are not compatible. 1483 01:10:08,208 --> 01:10:09,292 Could you sell them? 1484 01:10:09,375 --> 01:10:10,375 - Yes, but I'm not gonna throw... 1485 01:10:10,542 --> 01:10:13,417 Listen, you're throwing history away. 1486 01:10:13,542 --> 01:10:15,167 - These aren't history. These weren't part of the house. 1487 01:10:15,333 --> 01:10:16,750 - Oh, the hell if it is. 1488 01:10:16,875 --> 01:10:19,333 And they're antique history and people can use them. 1489 01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:21,792 - Bob, I'm sorry if I'm yelling. 1490 01:10:21,917 --> 01:10:23,292 I'm sorry that we're arguing. 1491 01:10:23,417 --> 01:10:24,542 I care about you, 1492 01:10:24,667 --> 01:10:27,875 and I don't want you to live in filth, okay? 1493 01:10:37,375 --> 01:10:39,042 - Can we let them go? 1494 01:10:39,167 --> 01:10:40,667 - Not throw 'em in a dumpster. 1495 01:10:40,792 --> 01:10:41,667 - [Abagael] Okay. 1496 01:10:41,750 --> 01:10:43,000 - I'm not gonna throw history away. 1497 01:10:43,167 --> 01:10:45,917 I'm tired of throwing history away. 1498 01:10:50,125 --> 01:10:51,208 - Bob, I'll be honest with you, 1499 01:10:51,333 --> 01:10:52,958 I am not going to help you restore these. 1500 01:10:53,042 --> 01:10:54,833 These are too far gone and my time 1501 01:10:54,958 --> 01:10:57,708 is more valuable than trash. 1502 01:10:57,833 --> 01:10:58,917 I'm sorry. 1503 01:10:59,042 --> 01:11:00,667 - Oh, no they're not. 1504 01:11:00,792 --> 01:11:02,708 - You bought them with the intention to reupholster them, 1505 01:11:02,875 --> 01:11:05,458 but how long ago do you think that was? 1506 01:11:05,583 --> 01:11:08,167 - I have an upholsterer now that I found, 1507 01:11:08,250 --> 01:11:10,708 that does beautiful work. 1508 01:11:10,875 --> 01:11:13,375 He's over south St. Louis here somewhere. 1509 01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:16,000 - And how much does he charge? You're on a fixed income. 1510 01:11:16,083 --> 01:11:18,792 - $90 A chair just to cover those. 1511 01:11:20,208 --> 01:11:22,708 - Yeah, we're looking at a thousand dollars right here. 1512 01:11:22,875 --> 01:11:23,917 - I'll make it. 1513 01:11:24,750 --> 01:11:28,208 - Sorry, give me a quick update. 1514 01:11:28,333 --> 01:11:30,917 - Matt, we're talking about how these cushions 1515 01:11:31,042 --> 01:11:32,875 are infested with mites. 1516 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,875 They are saturated with feces. 1517 01:11:35,042 --> 01:11:36,042 - Urine and mites, yes. 1518 01:11:36,167 --> 01:11:37,292 - And they are infested with bugs. 1519 01:11:37,375 --> 01:11:38,667 - [Bob] Oh, there's no feces on there. 1520 01:11:38,792 --> 01:11:39,750 - There's termite tracks on 'em. - [Matt] Well expensive. 1521 01:11:39,875 --> 01:11:42,750 Bob wants to pay to have them fixed, 1522 01:11:42,875 --> 01:11:47,417 but I'm telling him I'm not gonna help him with this. 1523 01:11:47,542 --> 01:11:50,500 - We were having an argument about the chairs and the sofa, 1524 01:11:50,583 --> 01:11:52,417 and I needed to go and get my eye checked out 1525 01:11:52,542 --> 01:11:54,375 and get some medicine. 1526 01:11:54,500 --> 01:11:56,792 And I went to the doctors across town, came back, 1527 01:11:56,917 --> 01:12:00,792 and we were having the same argument about chairs. 1528 01:12:00,917 --> 01:12:03,083 We could probably buy Victorian chairs 1529 01:12:03,208 --> 01:12:04,500 that are in better condition 1530 01:12:04,625 --> 01:12:07,250 for less than it would cost to repair 'em. 1531 01:12:07,375 --> 01:12:08,750 - You're not gonna throw 'em away. 1532 01:12:08,875 --> 01:12:11,583 I'm telling you, you're not gonna throw 'em away. 1533 01:12:11,708 --> 01:12:15,167 - Because for his idea of this house being a museum, 1534 01:12:15,292 --> 01:12:18,792 this stuff needs to be good or that vision doesn't work. 1535 01:12:18,875 --> 01:12:20,292 And that's why you see someone like Bob 1536 01:12:20,375 --> 01:12:21,875 really holding on to that theory. 1537 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,250 - We could put 'em out on the curb and put a sign 1538 01:12:23,375 --> 01:12:24,500 that says "Free." 1539 01:12:24,583 --> 01:12:25,875 Someone will come take 'em. - [Bob] No. 1540 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,125 He's been holding onto that vision of making this 1541 01:12:28,250 --> 01:12:31,000 a house museum for 20 years. 1542 01:12:31,083 --> 01:12:32,667 And if all of a sudden everything is ruined, 1543 01:12:32,792 --> 01:12:34,208 and it's not museum quality, 1544 01:12:34,375 --> 01:12:38,167 then his 20 year quest is BS. 1545 01:12:38,792 --> 01:12:40,833 And that's where a lot of this is coming from. 1546 01:12:40,958 --> 01:12:42,333 I'd be upset too. 1547 01:12:48,792 --> 01:12:53,833 - You've had a lot of loss in your life 1548 01:12:54,292 --> 01:12:58,875 with individuals taking things from you. 1549 01:12:59,958 --> 01:13:04,583 You are always opening yourself up to people 1550 01:13:04,708 --> 01:13:06,375 and showing kindness. 1551 01:13:06,500 --> 01:13:07,958 - I do. I like people. 1552 01:13:08,042 --> 01:13:10,375 - I know and it's wonderful, 1553 01:13:11,375 --> 01:13:13,458 but you have to be careful. 1554 01:13:13,542 --> 01:13:16,500 - Oh, I know, but I'm not a good judge. 1555 01:13:16,625 --> 01:13:19,000 - I know, I know. 1556 01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:21,542 And thank you for your willingness to 1557 01:13:21,708 --> 01:13:24,500 have this conversation and to be open. 1558 01:13:24,625 --> 01:13:28,500 Bob loves people. He trusts everyone. 1559 01:13:29,208 --> 01:13:33,000 But the problem is he doesn't see through people 1560 01:13:33,167 --> 01:13:34,792 until he's actually hurt. 1561 01:13:34,875 --> 01:13:37,542 So I hope that he'll be more careful in the future 1562 01:13:37,667 --> 01:13:40,667 about who he lets into his life. 1563 01:13:40,792 --> 01:13:43,542 I really appreciate that you recognize 1564 01:13:43,667 --> 01:13:45,917 that that is one of your areas 1565 01:13:46,042 --> 01:13:49,708 that you really need to strengthen. 1566 01:13:49,833 --> 01:13:52,667 I made some good progress with Bob therapeutically. 1567 01:13:52,792 --> 01:13:56,250 He now is saying that he needs to be more careful 1568 01:13:56,375 --> 01:13:58,667 and is very well aware of that. 1569 01:13:58,792 --> 01:14:02,500 We are going to offer you what's called aftercare. 1570 01:14:02,583 --> 01:14:06,000 And aftercare is going to involve connecting you 1571 01:14:06,125 --> 01:14:10,708 with a therapist that you can talk with such as myself, 1572 01:14:10,833 --> 01:14:15,042 so that you can continue to process your depression 1573 01:14:15,167 --> 01:14:17,458 or anxiety or trauma. 1574 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,792 - Oh, I'm willing for that. Of course. 1575 01:14:20,917 --> 01:14:22,500 - All right. You ready to get back to work? 1576 01:14:22,625 --> 01:14:24,167 - [Bob] Oh, I sure am. 1577 01:14:24,292 --> 01:14:26,000 - Okay, let's go. 1578 01:14:26,125 --> 01:14:28,875 I am so happy that he is accepting aftercare, 1579 01:14:29,042 --> 01:14:30,792 because he's never had any therapy. 1580 01:14:30,875 --> 01:14:33,125 He's never processed some of the events 1581 01:14:33,208 --> 01:14:34,625 that have happened to him. 1582 01:14:34,708 --> 01:14:38,833 And I think that he'll really benefit for his future. 1583 01:14:38,958 --> 01:14:41,167 - Oh, I just had that reupholstered. 1584 01:14:41,292 --> 01:14:42,833 - That is definitely a mouse nest. 1585 01:14:42,917 --> 01:14:46,292 And we pulled about 18 mice out of the pathway 1586 01:14:46,417 --> 01:14:48,667 going to that piece of furniture. 1587 01:14:48,792 --> 01:14:49,875 And when we got to that piece, 1588 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,958 we realized that's where the nest is. 1589 01:14:52,042 --> 01:14:55,833 - It's like a mouse's home. - That is not safe. 1590 01:14:55,958 --> 01:14:56,542 - [Bob] Mm. 1591 01:14:56,667 --> 01:14:59,125 - Can we let go of that? 1592 01:14:59,208 --> 01:15:00,417 - It wasn't mouse poop. 1593 01:15:00,542 --> 01:15:02,542 We got to a couch that was a mouse's nest. 1594 01:15:02,708 --> 01:15:03,750 I mean, you can see where they're living, 1595 01:15:03,875 --> 01:15:05,875 and there's a bunch of dead baby mice there, 1596 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,667 and he's like, "Yeah, I mean it's good." 1597 01:15:08,750 --> 01:15:10,833 - [Bob] I don't wanna throw it away. 1598 01:15:10,958 --> 01:15:12,542 - When your entire dream is getting shattered 1599 01:15:12,667 --> 01:15:16,500 in front of you, it's hard to see it. 1600 01:15:16,625 --> 01:15:20,500 So, I mean, it's not that Bob's being unrealistic. 1601 01:15:20,625 --> 01:15:21,625 He's sad. 1602 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,500 - And these pillows, are they dirty? 1603 01:15:25,625 --> 01:15:28,167 - Very, that's literally a rat's nest. 1604 01:15:28,292 --> 01:15:29,542 Actually a rat's nest. 1605 01:15:29,708 --> 01:15:31,333 - Well, I guess I got fabric upstairs. 1606 01:15:31,417 --> 01:15:33,333 I can have new ones made. 1607 01:15:33,458 --> 01:15:35,167 - I mean, someone obviously knew there were rats here, 1608 01:15:35,292 --> 01:15:38,000 because there's rats d-CON here on the floor. 1609 01:15:38,125 --> 01:15:39,458 - Mm hmm. 1610 01:15:39,583 --> 01:15:41,500 So someone knew there was rodents in here 1611 01:15:41,625 --> 01:15:43,875 and here's a couple dead mice. 1612 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,000 We're back to the same problem as the first day 1613 01:15:46,167 --> 01:15:48,333 and the second day and now the third day. 1614 01:15:48,417 --> 01:15:49,750 - Yeah. Too much stuff. 1615 01:15:49,875 --> 01:15:54,292 - Well, I'm not gonna get the original dining room set up. 1616 01:15:54,375 --> 01:15:55,333 - I'm not telling you to, 1617 01:15:55,458 --> 01:15:57,542 I'm saying I can't keep everything. 1618 01:15:57,667 --> 01:15:59,000 It's up to you what you get rid of. 1619 01:15:59,167 --> 01:16:01,333 I probably wouldn't get rid of these. 1620 01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:03,042 - I can set up the dining room table, 1621 01:16:03,208 --> 01:16:08,833 but that piece should go, it's too infested to save. 1622 01:16:09,792 --> 01:16:12,167 - Well, I can replace that somewhere. 1623 01:16:12,292 --> 01:16:12,917 - It's gonna be distracting 1624 01:16:13,042 --> 01:16:16,042 to see mouse infested furniture 1625 01:16:16,208 --> 01:16:19,000 that needs to be reupholstered in the same space 1626 01:16:19,125 --> 01:16:21,542 as your beautiful dining room table. 1627 01:16:21,667 --> 01:16:23,208 And we can't get things into other rooms 1628 01:16:23,333 --> 01:16:24,333 because they're full. 1629 01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:26,375 - Well, I'm willing to, okay? 1630 01:16:26,500 --> 01:16:28,000 - [Katherine] Okay. 1631 01:16:28,125 --> 01:16:29,458 - Willing to what? 1632 01:16:29,542 --> 01:16:31,542 - Get rid of it. 1633 01:16:31,667 --> 01:16:33,000 - Bob will bend and he'll say, 1634 01:16:33,083 --> 01:16:35,875 "Okay, you can get rid of that Tic-Tac, that's fine." 1635 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:40,167 And you're like, "Dude, I got a thousand of those." 1636 01:16:40,292 --> 01:16:42,292 He's like, "Yeah, I'm gonna keep the other 999, 1637 01:16:42,375 --> 01:16:43,625 but you can get rid of that one." 1638 01:16:43,708 --> 01:16:44,833 And I hate to say this, 1639 01:16:44,958 --> 01:16:46,500 there's a front yard full of stuff. 1640 01:16:46,583 --> 01:16:48,042 - That's what I'm worried about, 1641 01:16:48,167 --> 01:16:50,708 is that we can't leave anything out in the yard. 1642 01:16:50,833 --> 01:16:53,333 We have to start putting that somewhere. 1643 01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:54,500 - What's going on in there? 1644 01:16:54,667 --> 01:16:56,250 - Same conversation, different room. 1645 01:16:56,375 --> 01:16:58,542 We got too much stuff. 1646 01:16:58,667 --> 01:17:01,667 - I'm not getting rid of the original stuff. 1647 01:17:01,750 --> 01:17:05,292 I'm telling you that right now. I gave up that. 1648 01:17:05,375 --> 01:17:06,833 - And that was a good decision. 1649 01:17:06,917 --> 01:17:10,417 What about all these little random chairs on the left here? 1650 01:17:10,542 --> 01:17:13,625 - I want these for the music room. 1651 01:17:13,708 --> 01:17:14,917 - Bob's not gonna budge. 1652 01:17:15,042 --> 01:17:17,208 So now I'm spending time taking crappy furniture 1653 01:17:17,333 --> 01:17:19,708 out of the house, bringing it back in, taking it back out, 1654 01:17:19,833 --> 01:17:21,292 bringing it back in. 1655 01:17:21,375 --> 01:17:25,167 And we're just shuffling smelly chairs around. 1656 01:17:26,708 --> 01:17:27,833 We're doing everything we can, man. 1657 01:17:27,958 --> 01:17:29,292 We just need to get rid of some more stuff. 1658 01:17:29,375 --> 01:17:31,667 - I know, I'm trying. 1659 01:17:31,750 --> 01:17:33,167 - You are trying. I'm just... 1660 01:17:34,375 --> 01:17:38,042 We're talking about a lot of ugly chairs. 1661 01:17:38,167 --> 01:17:40,167 If this was a chapter, this was a book, 1662 01:17:40,292 --> 01:17:42,375 today's chapter would be "Ugly Chairs." 1663 01:17:42,500 --> 01:17:43,583 That's what we would talk about. 1664 01:17:43,708 --> 01:17:45,042 - Well then I'll go down in history. 1665 01:17:45,167 --> 01:17:49,083 - Yes. Oh, you're going in history buddy, you are. 1666 01:17:49,208 --> 01:17:50,917 My goal was that Bob would someday see 1667 01:17:51,042 --> 01:17:53,542 his own living museum and I gotta be honest, 1668 01:17:53,667 --> 01:17:56,167 I don't see it happening in his lifetime. 1669 01:17:56,292 --> 01:17:59,167 I mean, the only thing holding Bob back 1670 01:17:59,250 --> 01:18:02,167 from having a living museum is Bob. 1671 01:18:13,375 --> 01:18:14,417 How you feeling, man? 1672 01:18:14,542 --> 01:18:16,500 - I'm tired. - [Robin] Mm hmm. 1673 01:18:16,583 --> 01:18:17,833 I didn't sleep last night. 1674 01:18:27,542 --> 01:18:29,917 Let's clean this part out because 1675 01:18:30,042 --> 01:18:32,500 this room has a claw tub, 1676 01:18:32,667 --> 01:18:36,250 a sink and a toilet, and it's all in one. 1677 01:18:37,375 --> 01:18:39,125 - Our goal was to make this a whole house, 1678 01:18:39,208 --> 01:18:40,667 and I'm talking to all three of you. 1679 01:18:40,792 --> 01:18:42,667 - You're not gonna be able to do it. 1680 01:18:42,792 --> 01:18:43,625 - It's a big job. - [Bob] That's true. 1681 01:18:43,708 --> 01:18:45,000 We didn't get it done. 1682 01:18:45,167 --> 01:18:46,542 But I don't think any of us can leave, 1683 01:18:46,667 --> 01:18:48,167 unless we have a safe space for you. 1684 01:18:48,292 --> 01:18:50,167 - Well, that's it. - [Matt] Okay. 1685 01:18:50,250 --> 01:18:52,292 - He wants to be able to probably get into a bed 1686 01:18:52,375 --> 01:18:54,167 and actually just go to bed like a normal person. 1687 01:18:54,333 --> 01:18:56,458 And so he was voicing that and I was glad he did. 1688 01:18:56,542 --> 01:18:57,708 - Okay, let's go. 1689 01:18:57,833 --> 01:18:59,000 - One last push guys. Let's do it. 1690 01:18:59,167 --> 01:19:01,708 (bright music) 1691 01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:41,417 - Oh my God. 1692 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,500 - [Robin] Hi, Bob. 1693 01:19:45,583 --> 01:19:46,667 - [Matt] What do you think, man? 1694 01:19:46,792 --> 01:19:49,667 - Welcome to your home. Come on in. 1695 01:19:49,792 --> 01:19:52,917 - You did more work than I thought you did. 1696 01:19:53,042 --> 01:19:54,917 - Beautiful. Oh my God. 1697 01:19:57,583 --> 01:19:58,500 - [Matt] What are y'all thinking? 1698 01:19:58,625 --> 01:19:59,917 - [Bob] Oh God. 1699 01:20:02,833 --> 01:20:03,917 - [Robin] Aw. 1700 01:20:05,208 --> 01:20:07,208 - Come on. - I'm choking. 1701 01:20:08,375 --> 01:20:10,000 - Don't make me cry now. 1702 01:20:10,083 --> 01:20:13,542 - I can't help it. - I can't either. 1703 01:20:13,708 --> 01:20:16,083 So I'm gonna stand back here. 1704 01:20:17,333 --> 01:20:19,333 I could see that the house is becoming 1705 01:20:19,417 --> 01:20:22,250 what it should have been in the first place. 1706 01:20:22,375 --> 01:20:26,875 I'm watching it being restored, renewed, a new life. 1707 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,333 - Oh, okay. I'm over it. 1708 01:20:29,458 --> 01:20:30,458 - Is that how you cry? 1709 01:20:30,542 --> 01:20:33,000 You just cry and then say, "I'm over it?" 1710 01:20:33,083 --> 01:20:35,750 - Bob, can you put some words to those tears? 1711 01:20:35,875 --> 01:20:37,458 - Well, God, yes. 1712 01:20:37,583 --> 01:20:41,833 I didn't think I'd see this for another five years. 1713 01:20:43,375 --> 01:20:46,250 It looks like a Victorian house, really. 1714 01:20:46,375 --> 01:20:49,417 They did a great job putting the stuff in. 1715 01:20:49,542 --> 01:20:51,667 - Your ceilings are actually some of my favorite art 1716 01:20:51,792 --> 01:20:53,500 that you've done. 1717 01:20:53,583 --> 01:20:56,042 And now that we're clearing the house out, 1718 01:20:56,167 --> 01:20:58,958 ironically it gives us space to look up now. 1719 01:20:59,042 --> 01:21:02,042 And I'm seeing things I didn't see before. 1720 01:21:02,167 --> 01:21:03,458 You don't even see the ceilings in this house 1721 01:21:03,542 --> 01:21:04,958 for the first four days and then all of a sudden, 1722 01:21:05,042 --> 01:21:06,292 you clear it out and you're like, 1723 01:21:06,375 --> 01:21:08,708 "Is that a baby's head on the ceiling?" 1724 01:21:08,833 --> 01:21:11,208 There's all this artwork that he has done, hand painted. 1725 01:21:11,333 --> 01:21:14,125 I mean this house is incredible. 1726 01:21:15,125 --> 01:21:17,625 - [Bob] (laughing) Gosh. - [Ceil] Oh my God. 1727 01:21:17,708 --> 01:21:19,042 - Look at this. 1728 01:21:22,708 --> 01:21:24,167 - It is fabulous. 1729 01:21:28,667 --> 01:21:32,417 - We have to stay with this concept of less is better. 1730 01:21:32,542 --> 01:21:34,208 - Oh yes, I know. 1731 01:21:34,375 --> 01:21:35,208 - All right, so let's talk real quick, 1732 01:21:35,333 --> 01:21:37,208 about where the stuff went. 1733 01:21:37,333 --> 01:21:43,042 You actually threw away 8,000 pounds of trash 1734 01:21:44,875 --> 01:21:48,167 out of this level and the basement. 1735 01:21:48,250 --> 01:21:49,792 It's a job that you look at and you feel like, 1736 01:21:49,917 --> 01:21:52,042 gosh, did they do much? 1737 01:21:52,167 --> 01:21:55,167 We moved a lot of stuff around. 1738 01:21:55,292 --> 01:21:57,167 We reorganized all the frames. 1739 01:21:57,250 --> 01:21:59,250 So all the frames are downstairs. 1740 01:21:59,375 --> 01:22:00,833 You allowed a lot of your paintings to go 1741 01:22:00,958 --> 01:22:02,833 to a temperature controlled storage, 1742 01:22:02,917 --> 01:22:04,583 so that gave us more space downstairs. 1743 01:22:04,708 --> 01:22:05,792 - [Ceil] Oh fantastic. 1744 01:22:05,875 --> 01:22:07,167 And then the entire washroom downstairs 1745 01:22:07,292 --> 01:22:10,333 is now filled with items that you're ready to sell. 1746 01:22:10,458 --> 01:22:15,833 I'm hoping this entire process will also build trust 1747 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,708 between the three of you. 1748 01:22:17,833 --> 01:22:19,958 It's still up to Ken and Daulton to sell these items. 1749 01:22:20,042 --> 01:22:22,083 It's gonna be up to Bob to let go of them. 1750 01:22:22,208 --> 01:22:24,833 But we've given them the space and the system 1751 01:22:24,958 --> 01:22:27,000 to now put in place and do this. 1752 01:22:27,167 --> 01:22:28,500 First of all, I don't have a mask on. 1753 01:22:28,625 --> 01:22:31,500 I don't have boots on. I'm putting my hands on a surface. 1754 01:22:31,625 --> 01:22:35,250 The kitchen is cleaner, it can be used now. 1755 01:22:36,875 --> 01:22:40,625 We were charged with two things to make this a house museum, 1756 01:22:40,708 --> 01:22:43,583 and then secondly, to make it a safe space for Bob. 1757 01:22:43,708 --> 01:22:46,167 On the first part of that, we've got it started, 1758 01:22:46,292 --> 01:22:49,042 but secondly, making it a safe space, we did that. 1759 01:22:49,208 --> 01:22:51,958 We have open walkways from the front to the back. 1760 01:22:52,083 --> 01:22:54,500 All the hallways are safer now. The steps are safer. 1761 01:22:54,625 --> 01:22:57,000 And we have him a place to live where he can go 1762 01:22:57,125 --> 01:22:59,542 to the bathroom, he could cook, he can shower, 1763 01:22:59,667 --> 01:23:02,125 and he can eat and he can finally get in a bed 1764 01:23:02,208 --> 01:23:04,667 for the first time in probably five years. 1765 01:23:04,833 --> 01:23:07,583 (Bob laughs) 1766 01:23:07,708 --> 01:23:08,417 A bed. 1767 01:23:10,833 --> 01:23:12,000 - Throughout this whole process, 1768 01:23:12,125 --> 01:23:15,208 we quickly realized that we had to put the vision 1769 01:23:15,333 --> 01:23:16,833 of the house museum on the sidelines 1770 01:23:16,917 --> 01:23:20,375 and make sure that you had a safe, clean place to live. 1771 01:23:20,500 --> 01:23:25,000 I'm so happy that you could be so blessed to have this. 1772 01:23:25,125 --> 01:23:26,167 - I am too. 1773 01:23:28,333 --> 01:23:29,667 - Bob told me that he's been praying 1774 01:23:29,792 --> 01:23:34,167 for a miracle for years and two came, Ken and Daulton, 1775 01:23:34,250 --> 01:23:37,792 and I think he's really lucky to have them. 1776 01:23:37,875 --> 01:23:39,292 - It's so high up. 1777 01:23:41,917 --> 01:23:43,458 Oh God. 1778 01:23:43,542 --> 01:23:44,667 - [Daulton] We'll have to get you a stool. 1779 01:23:44,750 --> 01:23:45,583 - Yes. 1780 01:23:47,417 --> 01:23:51,125 - We have all of the sell pile down in the basement. 1781 01:23:51,208 --> 01:23:54,167 Auctioneers will be coming out to sell those items 1782 01:23:54,250 --> 01:23:56,792 and as they do, Daulton and I will be working with Bob, 1783 01:23:56,875 --> 01:24:00,125 to bring items from the second floor down to the basement, 1784 01:24:00,208 --> 01:24:01,625 bring auctioneers back out. 1785 01:24:01,708 --> 01:24:04,208 And we'll probably have to do this a handful of times, 1786 01:24:04,333 --> 01:24:08,000 but I think that Bob now sees his house 1787 01:24:08,125 --> 01:24:10,833 as the beautiful vision that he once had 1788 01:24:10,917 --> 01:24:13,750 and he's on a roll with it. 1789 01:24:13,875 --> 01:24:15,792 - Not finished, but it will be. 1790 01:24:15,917 --> 01:24:18,083 - Oh, it'll be beautiful. 1791 01:24:19,042 --> 01:24:19,750 - Yes. 1792 01:24:21,208 --> 01:24:24,958 - I just hope people get to see his art, 1793 01:24:25,292 --> 01:24:26,708 'cause it's a special thing. 1794 01:24:26,833 --> 01:24:29,542 My life is different because I got to be here this week. 1795 01:24:29,667 --> 01:24:33,500 - I guess I could get used to sleeping up here.